Re: OT: Time for substantive change.
Ok, maybe I was not completely clear. To stay on point, my statement was not about whether it was valid or about who was doing what. My point was IF all 50 states decided to secede then who will stop them and I was drawing a contrast between the Civil War and what potentially is going on today. The Civil War was possible because there were states who seceded and there were states that stood with the Federal Government. This is a much different situation. IF and I say IF all 50 stated really decided to secede who can stop them? That was my point. I agree most people, to include myself, do not want to secede, however you must read between the lines. This is a warning to the Federal Government to get inline with the Constitution or further action will be taken. Keith Smith --- On Thu, 11/15/12, Joe Gibbs wrote: From: Joe Gibbs Subject: Re: OT: Time for substantive change. To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012, 3:21 PM I call that statement bull crap. Just because someone created a petition does not mean that all/most of the residents want to give up. Personally for a joke I could create a petition for those states that I don't like and then watch the fear-mongers start clicking yes. On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:24 PM, keith smith wrote: What is different is all 50 states want to go their separate way. Who will fight against it? The President, his cabinet, the House, Senate, and the Supremes? This is different. This is all the states against the federal government. The federal government gets it's power from the people. If the people withdraw, then there is not federal government. The states created the federal government. If all 50 states walk there is not federal government to fight to keep the 50 states together. Very different. -------- Keith Smith --- On Thu, 11/15/12, Robert Holtzman wrote: From: Robert Holtzman Subject: Re: OT: Time for substantive change. To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012, 1:31 PM On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 04:10:17PM -0700, j...@actionline.com wrote: > > The Declaration of Independence states: "Governments are instituted among > men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that > whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is > the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new > Government." > > Over the past few days, petitions have been started in all 50 states to > secede from this now marxist-socialist "union." IIRC we fought a hell of a bloody war over this around 150 or so yrs ago. In the North it was called The Civil War. In the South it was called The War of Northern Aggression. Either way, your side lost. ..snip. -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Time for substantive change.
What if we turn that on it head - 180 degrees out and say anyone who does not what to follow the Constitution should find a place where they fit in. It's about the Constitution and nothing else. If someone wants to be a socialist why not move to a socialist country? ---- Keith Smith --- On Thu, 11/15/12, Michael Havens wrote: From: Michael Havens Subject: Re: OT: Time for substantive change. To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012, 3:09 PM I think that people that don't like the way the country is going should move to texas and then only teas seceed. There already is a provision in their founding documents that they could separate into 3 states. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Eric Cope wrote: Something to consider is that while there are groups of people in each state that want to secede, not EVERYONE in the state wants to secede. The question is what constitutes critical mass to trigger the change. The colonists only had support from about 20% of the population. How much does each state need? Eric On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Tom Haws wrote: What is different is all 50 states want to go their separate way. Is this true? Cool! --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Time for substantive change.
What is different is all 50 states want to go their separate way. Who will fight against it? The President, his cabinet, the House, Senate, and the Supremes? This is different. This is all the states against the federal government. The federal government gets it's power from the people. If the people withdraw, then there is not federal government. The states created the federal government. If all 50 states walk there is not federal government to fight to keep the 50 states together. Very different. ---- Keith Smith --- On Thu, 11/15/12, Robert Holtzman wrote: From: Robert Holtzman Subject: Re: OT: Time for substantive change. To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012, 1:31 PM On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 04:10:17PM -0700, j...@actionline.com wrote: > > The Declaration of Independence states: "Governments are instituted among > men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that > whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is > the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new > Government." > > Over the past few days, petitions have been started in all 50 states to > secede from this now marxist-socialist "union." IIRC we fought a hell of a bloody war over this around 150 or so yrs ago. In the North it was called The Civil War. In the South it was called The War of Northern Aggression. Either way, your side lost. ..snip. -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Time for substantive change.
Btw, While I voiced that we take a different direction I would like to say I have the utmost respect for Joe and I always value his opinion. Keith Smith --- On Wed, 11/14/12, j...@actionline.com wrote: From: j...@actionline.com Subject: OT: Time for substantive change. To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 4:10 PM The Declaration of Independence states: "Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government." Over the past few days, petitions have been started in all 50 states to secede from this now marxist-socialist "union." The rate at which signatures are being added to these petitions makes it very clear that this is no joke. Click the link below to sign the petition: - - - http://wh.gov/9mNz - - - Note: If you live in a state other than Arizona, google to find the active petition in your state. A petition is under way in and for every state. At this point, you only need to sign up with your first name, last initial, and zip code. It's quick and easy. Let your voice be heard. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Time for substantive change.
Given that a county in Florida had a voter turn out of 141%. That would be the district that Allen West is in. Also I would submit the vote for a president does not equate to consent. Keith Smith --- On Wed, 11/14/12, farli wrote: From: farli Subject: Re: OT: Time for substantive change. To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 5:03 PM I guess that a majority of the vote nationwide and a huge margin in the electoral college somehow does not indicate "consent of the governed". I wholeheartedly agree that this list is NOT the place for any discussion of politics. Original message intentionally omitted from my response >From Da Rock's Xoom --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Time for substantive change.
Any contract can be broken. Keith Smith --- On Wed, 11/14/12, Wayne Davis wrote: From: Wayne Davis Subject: Re: OT: Time for substantive change. To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 4:30 PM On 11/14/2012 04:10 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: The Declaration of Independence states: "Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government." Over the past few days, petitions have been started in all 50 states to secede from this now marxist-socialist "union." The rate at which signatures are being added to these petitions makes it very clear that this is no joke. Click the link below to sign the petition: - - - http://wh.gov/9mNz - - - Note: If you live in a state other than Arizona, google to find the active petition in your state. A petition is under way in and for every state. At this point, you only need to sign up with your first name, last initial, and zip code. It's quick and easy. Let your voice be heard. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss You do realize there is really NO provision for states to break away right? This whole petition thing is bogus. -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Time for substantive change.
I've been watching this and a number of other issues unfold over that last 4 or 5 days. We definitely live in interesting times. I whole heatedly agree we need to fix our relationship with the federal government, and believe me I would love to secede, however I think it might be destructive in the end. My main concern is the US may be what is keeping the world from self destructing. If we break into 50 different countries, we lose that strength. For instance what happens to all the nukes we have all over the planet? What about our navy what happens to it? I propose the 50 states create an alliance to nullify anything the federal government does that is not constitutional. This is lawful and we have the right under the 10th Amendment. We can start by requiring all taxes sent to the federal government go through the states. The states should hold back 80% of it. I would guess everyone thinks the federal government is out of control. If we stand together we can do this. Remember the states created the federal government not the other way around. The 10th Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. ---- Keith Smith --- On Wed, 11/14/12, j...@actionline.com wrote: From: j...@actionline.com Subject: OT: Time for substantive change. To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 4:10 PM The Declaration of Independence states: "Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government." Over the past few days, petitions have been started in all 50 states to secede from this now marxist-socialist "union." The rate at which signatures are being added to these petitions makes it very clear that this is no joke. Click the link below to sign the petition: - - - http://wh.gov/9mNz - - - Note: If you live in a state other than Arizona, google to find the active petition in your state. A petition is under way in and for every state. At this point, you only need to sign up with your first name, last initial, and zip code. It's quick and easy. Let your voice be heard. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: virus
I think he was just blowing off some steam. If so no harm no foul. Keith Smith --- On Fri, 11/9/12, Eric Shubert wrote: From: Eric Shubert Subject: Re: virus To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Friday, November 9, 2012, 8:18 AM On 11/09/2012 05:54 AM, Michael Havens wrote: > could someone send me a virus that I could 'share' with all the thieves > that try to scam me? > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > Not a prudent approach. What goes around comes around. -- -Eric 'shubes' --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Facebook experts available for hire?
Nice!! Bet you have some very interesting and powerful information. Keith Smith --- On Sat, 10/20/12, mike enriquez wrote: From: mike enriquez Subject: Re: OT: Facebook experts available for hire? To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Saturday, October 20, 2012, 9:40 AM Hi Joe, I am no expert on Facebook but I just returned from a week of seminars at Harvard Business School where they are researching Google and Facebook. Professors covered who is using Facebook and who is making money by using Facebook. These experts were very informative and the information was very surprising. I don't want to write down what they told us, but send me your phone number and I will gladly pass on the information. Good luck. Mike Enriquez On 10/20/2012 03:23 AM, j...@actionline.com wrote: > Are there any Facebook experts available for hire /for consultation in the > plug community? > > Facebook "terms of service" seem to say one cannot have more than one > facebook page or account, yet some other sources seem to indicate that one > can have both a personal account and a separate business account with > multiple pages for separate products and/or services, etc. It's all very > confusing. > > I have a dozen different websites for different books and ministry > projects and I'd like to set up a separate facebook page for each one (I > think). Is this permissible or verboten? > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: O.T. Hostgator Registrar
Thank you for your feedback Lisa! I have some domains registered at Godaddy, and some in a WWD (godaddy reseller) account. Godaddy has been reliable. I host my business website there. I also have a HostGator reseller account. Today I wanted to convert one of my business email accounts from pop3 to imap. I already have an add on email account so I can store more email. I had to pay even more for imap. I understand why Godaddy does business the way they do, however I'm growing tired of them nickle and dimeing me every time I want to do something. I want to make life simple so I'm thinking of consolidating everything into my reseller account and moving my domains to HostGator. Also I'm thinking of configuring access via SSH which I can do with HostGator. Much to my surprise HG charges a one time fee of $10 per domain to open SSH. -------- Keith Smith --- On Fri, 10/5/12, Lisa Kachold wrote: From: Lisa Kachold Subject: Re: O.T. Hostgator Registrar To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Friday, October 5, 2012, 9:03 PM Hi! On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 7:55 PM, keith smith wrote: Hi, Has anyone used HostGator as a Registrar? I'm considering moving my domains from GoDaddy to HG. Thank you for your feedback. Keith ---- Keith Smith I did some work for some that were hosted there. And in the old days used them for offsite second (not sure if they still provide that service). They were reliable. http://www.webhostingtalk.com/archive/index.php/t-875904.html Others think so too. Why are you moving? GoDaddy has some really nice services that aren't going to be available everywhere, like URL forwarding, etc. Do you like cPanel? (If you are moving your webhosts also) -- (503) 754-4452 Android (623) 239-3392 Skype (623) 688-3392 Google Voice ** it-clowns.com Chief Clown -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
O.T. Hostgator Registrar
Hi, Has anyone used HostGator as a Registrar? I'm considering moving my domains from GoDaddy to HG. Thank you for your feedback. Keith ---- Keith Smith--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Which news source(s) do you prefer?
Google has started to tailor what you get based on what they know about you, which is far more than you might expect. To me this is a problem. It is akin to telling me what I want to hear, not what I need to know or the truth, if there really is something called the truth. Keith Smith --- On Tue, 10/2/12, Alan Dayley wrote: From: Alan Dayley Subject: Re: OT: Which news source(s) do you prefer? To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Tuesday, October 2, 2012, 11:57 AM I scan news.google.com headlines once a day and dive into things that look interesting. I have purposefully not customized the feeds there so that I get as general a view as possible, though Google does some feed tweaks automatically based on what it knows about me. The rest of my news comes from people I follow on Twitter, Google+ and others. I curate who I follow in social media and relevant news just comes to me, and mostly with better quality than if I go out and hunt for things. Alan On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Patricia Wilson wrote: For politics and world news foxnews special report. For techie stuff zdnet. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:44 AM, wrote: Which news sources (print and/or internet) do y'all prefer? I'm fed up with *all* media sources ... with all of the bias (both ways), spin, distortion, inflammation, exaggeration, ambulance chasing sensationalizing, and overdone visual graphics. Haven't subscribed to any print media for more than 20 years, but used to scan the USA Today headlines online; however, since they just changed their format to force an excessive (imh) clutter of graphics on us, it is no longer a viable option for me. Are there any online news headline sources that are not radical, liberal, left-wing, extremist, fanatic, spinmeisters? ... or (almost as bad) extreme right-wingers? I've tried all those listed at this link and found nothing that seems reasonably "fair and balanced" ... and most of all *efficient* without excessive clutter. - - - http://www.upquick.com/best/news.htm - - - So what would y'all recommend? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Patricia Wilson Apache Junction, AZ Member NRA, ARRL WB8DXX (Extra) --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Which news source(s) do you prefer?
Hi Joe, There is no real media source that is unbiased. Like you said everyone is spinning the story for their benefit. Trust no single source. I read a bunch of different sites. AND I take everything I hear and read with a grain of salt. I take no print. If you do not look at multiple websites daily you run the risk of missing something. If you find that one true source I'd like to know about it. ---- Keith Smith --- On Tue, 10/2/12, j...@actionline.com wrote: From: j...@actionline.com Subject: OT: Which news source(s) do you prefer? To: "PLUG" Date: Tuesday, October 2, 2012, 11:44 AM Which news sources (print and/or internet) do y'all prefer? I'm fed up with *all* media sources ... with all of the bias (both ways), spin, distortion, inflammation, exaggeration, ambulance chasing sensationalizing, and overdone visual graphics. Haven't subscribed to any print media for more than 20 years, but used to scan the USA Today headlines online; however, since they just changed their format to force an excessive (imh) clutter of graphics on us, it is no longer a viable option for me. Are there any online news headline sources that are not radical, liberal, left-wing, extremist, fanatic, spinmeisters? ... or (almost as bad) extreme right-wingers? I've tried all those listed at this link and found nothing that seems reasonably "fair and balanced" ... and most of all *efficient* without excessive clutter. - - - http://www.upquick.com/best/news.htm - - - So what would y'all recommend? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: new memory record for me
Ok, Thank you. So one CPU? and all that RAM? Keith Smith --- On Tue, 9/18/12, Matt Graham wrote: From: Matt Graham Subject: Re: new memory record for me To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Tuesday, September 18, 2012, 9:02 AM From: keith smith > I must admit I know little about computer architecture and OSes at > this level, however it seems multiple computers would be better than > one big one. What is the advantage to so much RAM in one computer? "If you were plowing a field, which would you rather use: Two strong oxen or 1024 chickens?" --Seymour Cray Some problems are difficult or impossible to break up into parts that can be run in parallel. This huge system may be working on one of those problems. And there's the inherent coolness factor in having as much RAM as regular computers had disk a couple of years ago. How fast would our DB server return results if it could just load all ~100G of tables into RAM? Probably 10 times faster than it does, which is always nice. -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: new memory record for me
I'm curious. What type of CPU's are they using. I must admit I know little about computer architecture and O/S's at this level, however it seems multiple computers would be better than one big one. What is the advantage to so much RAM in one computer? What are the advantages of one computer with lots of RAM versus something like a Beowulf cluster? -------- Keith Smith --- On Tue, 9/18/12, Steven A. DuChene wrote: From: Steven A. DuChene Subject: new memory record for me To: PLUG-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us Date: Tuesday, September 18, 2012, 5:23 AM Last year I spent the summer working at the Intel benchmarking center in Dupont, WA and some of you might recall me posting about some large memory systems there with 256GB of memory. At the time that was the most memory I had personally witnessed running in a Linux server (RH6.1 to be exact). Well this month I am at a national weather & climate research lab in Wyoming and that memory record has been broken. Here as part of their latest research cluster purchase they have 17 large memory systems that are used for OpenGL based visualization. These systems have 1TB of main memory! Unfortunately it seems that the latest NVidia Quadro 6000 video cards have only a 39bit register for addressing memory which means there are problems when using them in systems with 512GB or more of memory. -- Steven DuChene --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
OT: WordPress meeting at Gangplank Chandler
Hi, Anyone attending the WordPress meeting at Gangplank Chandler? If so how big is the group? How advanced? Thanks in advance! Keith Smith--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Cable / Static IP / New Router
Thanks to everyone who replied. I should have mentioned that I am back on line and my static IP is working. I just found it odd that Cox would offer a different IP than the one I am assigned if I did not set my router up for a static IP. I assumed that when my router asked for the IP Cox would provide the static IP automatically. Keith Smith --- On Thu, 8/30/12, Michael Butash wrote: From: Michael Butash Subject: Re: Cox Cable / Static IP / New Router To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Thursday, August 30, 2012, 12:24 PM If you do that, reboot your modem at the same time. From a docsis level they filter only one mac at a time (unless you pay for more), and flipping mac's won't always simply work. -mb On 08/30/2012 11:55 AM, JD Austin wrote: > They go off the network mac address that you're sending them; many > devices let you spoof anything you want. > If you can still boot the old one get it's mac address and spoof it on > the new one. > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:33 AM, keith smith <mailto:klsmith2...@yahoo.com>> wrote: > > > Hi, > > Last night, after 6 years of good loyal service, my D-Link router > died. I just happened to have a never used 2 year old Netgear > router in my closet. I hooked it up and everything was fine at > first. I have a static IP and it changed. I called Cox and was told > I needed to configure my router to tell them what my IP is. I'm not > a network guru, so this hit me kind of strange. I thought they > assigned IP's. > > Any thoughts on this are much appreciated. > > > Keith Smith > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > <mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Cox Cable / Static IP / New Router
Hi, Last night, after 6 years of good loyal service, my D-Link router died. I just happened to have a never used 2 year old Netgear router in my closet. I hooked it up and everything was fine at first. I have a static IP and it changed. I called Cox and was told I needed to configure my router to tell them what my IP is. I'm not a network guru, so this hit me kind of strange. I thought they assigned IP's. Any thoughts on this are much appreciated. ---- Keith Smith--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: free AWS
My experience is strictly with the backup service they provide. It is extremely affordable and very reliable. Like I said I think we backup 1.3Gigs per day to AWS and keep 15 days of history. Our monthly bill is under $5.00. And it is fully automated. Set it and forget it. Keith Smith --- On Sun, 8/26/12, Joshua Zeidner wrote: From: Joshua Zeidner Subject: Re: free AWS To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Sunday, August 26, 2012, 5:38 AM I've used the technology before and it's great as a hosting service... just wondering how the free service works. In my experience these free services are typically crippled so that you're forced to fork over $$$ after investing time with it. -jmz On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 12:20 PM, keith smith wrote: It is free to a point. I backup about 1.3 Gigs every night. I keep 15 days of history on their server and they charge us several dollars a month. That is right about 20 gigs of storage for 2 or 3 dollars a month. It was free for a year. It rocks. As I recall they charge for bandwidth and storage. Been using it for year and a half or so. I'm very impressed. ---- Keith Smith --- On Sun, 8/19/12, Joshua Zeidner wrote: From: Joshua Zeidner Subject: free AWS To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Sunday, August 19, 2012, 9:31 PM Hello, anyone have any experience with free AWS? good/bad/ugly? http://aws.amazon.com/free/ thanks, jmz -- http://home.joshuazeidner.com/ (602) 492-5749 -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- http://home.joshuazeidner.com/ (602) 492-5749 -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: free AWS
It is free to a point. I backup about 1.3 Gigs every night. I keep 15 days of history on their server and they charge us several dollars a month. That is right about 20 gigs of storage for 2 or 3 dollars a month. It was free for a year. It rocks. As I recall they charge for bandwidth and storage. Been using it for year and a half or so. I'm very impressed. ---- Keith Smith --- On Sun, 8/19/12, Joshua Zeidner wrote: From: Joshua Zeidner Subject: free AWS To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Sunday, August 19, 2012, 9:31 PM Hello, anyone have any experience with free AWS? good/bad/ugly? http://aws.amazon.com/free/ thanks, jmz -- http://home.joshuazeidner.com/ (602) 492-5749 -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: programming
I'm not sure what being a skilled JavaScript programmer really means, however there are lots of challenges. Maybe that is why there is a "shortage", if there really is one. Maybe you can achieve everything you need to with jQuery or another such library. You will need to know HTML, how the DOM works, and CSS. At that point if you learn PHP or some other server side programming language you would have a complete marketable skill set. Of course basic Apache and MySql skills would come in handy also. None of these skills live in a vacuum. Being a JavaScript expert would be pretty neat since JavaScript runs in the browser. I'd do some research on demand before jumping in. If I were just getting started I'd learn how to program a smart device running Android. http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html Another thing you might consider. It is very hard to break into programming in Corporate America. Learning how to program smart devises might help you do freelance work. That might be where you really find the demand. Another thing. Having several people give you advice on a tech list is just that. The bottom line is you have to make it work. The buck stops with you. I'd do lots of research and try out the different languages before investing lots of time and effort. Also develop a business plan. Even if you plan to work W2, I suggest a business plan so you can see how that might work. You are a business even if you work W2. The first questions I'd ask myself is : 1) what are you deeply passionate about 2) what were you genetically encoded to do 3) will, whatever this is, drive you economic engine? Having a desire to be a programmer does not mean one should become a programmer. You may have been designed to do something else. Also programming skills come in handy in other fields. For instance if you were in a financial analyst position you might be more productive if you were able to pull raw data from a database, and create reports, maybe in spread sheet format, that you and your group might be able to use in the performance of your duties. ---- Keith Smith --- On Sun, 8/19/12, Michael Havens wrote: From: Michael Havens Subject: Re: programming To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Sunday, August 19, 2012, 10:51 PM Well, I am going to take Alan and Joseph;s suggestion and learn JavaScript. Look at that! Codeacademy didn't give me a choice as to which language I wanted to learn but rather started me right off with JS! Thank you so much for responding to me guys. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 5:14 PM, keith smith wrote: Keith Smith d Joseph; --- On Sun, 8/19/12, Alan Dayley wrote: From: Alan Dayley Subject: Re: programming To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Sunday, August 19, 2012, 3:30 PM Most places I visit use web-based applications more and more often. And, in such places, JavaScript developers seem to be in short supply. Alan On Aug 19, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Michael Havens wrote: thank you so much for your help. What would you suggest as a marketable language for me to learn? :-)~MIKE~(-: On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Alan Dayley wrote: http://codeacademy.com has free classes for much of the basics in several languages. They just added Python. Look to see if that fits your learning goals. Alan On Aug 19, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Michael Havens wrote: > I was wondering. how do you find the free kindle books and I was hoping > to find a book that would teach programming from the ground up with exercises > and stuff like that. Free is about all I can afford with two kids and being > on disability and all the crap that is going on in my life! WHat is a good > language to start learning? I remember that a friend of mine who went to > Devry in 91 the first language he learned was Pascal. Is that a good language > to start with or should I rather start with something more useful? Like maybe > Java or Javascript or would you recommend something else? This is going to be > completely a home study thing. I do have a Python book for python2.1 by > Deitel, Liperi, and Weidermann (copywrite 02). I think I will work out of > that unless you think it is too old. Please don't ask what I want to do with > whatever I learn because right now I don't know what the possibilities of > learning a language (be it Python, DHTML, or whatever). You know what, I also have a DHTML book (1997) anda java book ( 96) that are really old. Do you think I should use them? Yeah, I'm thinking HTML and Java are more practical. I can offer to program things for people. What do you think I should do? > :-)~MIKE~(-: > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss
Re: programming
Keith Smith --- On Sun, 8/19/12, Alan Dayley wrote: From: Alan Dayley Subject: Re: programming To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Sunday, August 19, 2012, 3:30 PM Most places I visit use web-based applications more and more often. And, in such places, JavaScript developers seem to be in short supply. Alan On Aug 19, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Michael Havens wrote: thank you so much for your help. What would you suggest as a marketable language for me to learn? :-)~MIKE~(-: On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Alan Dayley wrote: http://codeacademy.com has free classes for much of the basics in several languages. They just added Python. Look to see if that fits your learning goals. Alan On Aug 19, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Michael Havens wrote: > I was wondering. how do you find the free kindle books and I was hoping > to find a book that would teach programming from the ground up with exercises > and stuff like that. Free is about all I can afford with two kids and being > on disability and all the crap that is going on in my life! WHat is a good > language to start learning? I remember that a friend of mine who went to > Devry in 91 the first language he learned was Pascal. Is that a good language > to start with or should I rather start with something more useful? Like maybe > Java or Javascript or would you recommend something else? This is going to be > completely a home study thing. I do have a Python book for python2.1 by > Deitel, Liperi, and Weidermann (copywrite 02). I think I will work out of > that unless you think it is too old. Please don't ask what I want to do with > whatever I learn because right now I don't know what the possibilities of > learning a language (be it Python, DHTML, or whatever). You know what, I also have a DHTML book (1997) anda java book ( 96) that are really old. Do you think I should use them? Yeah, I'm thinking HTML and Java are more practical. I can offer to program things for people. What do you think I should do? > :-)~MIKE~(-: > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: how to transfer files
I do it this way also. I have ftp turned off. I have configured SFTP via SSH. Two classes of users - non sudo and sudo. sudo user cannot log in or access via ssh. I log in via a non sudo user and su to a sudo user so I have access to root. Also with a static IP you can use your IPTables to block access to only the IP's you want to access your server. I use this approach also. The IPTables solution will require some forethought. You will need to open your server to any IP from which you will want to access your server. This solution will not work if you will be on a road trip and using many unknown access points. While I have not used it I think you might be able to use Virtual Private Network (VPN). ---- Keith Smith --- On Wed, 8/15/12, Stephen wrote: From: Stephen Subject: Re: how to transfer files To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Wednesday, August 15, 2012, 7:17 AM i would definitely use a nonstandard pot for ssh. also make sure to disallow direct root access via ssh so you have to use a regular user and su for any root functions should you decide they are necessary via remote. and that's a quick-list for my mind, there are others that would have a better scope of security suggestions for sure. i have seen the discussions go by that had some great ones. On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Michael Havens wrote: > dyndns with ssh/filezilla sounds like the way I want to go. But what about > suecurity? Shold I just tell it to use a non-standard port? > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:02 PM, JD Austin wrote: >> >> For me it's ssh. >> Filezilla (works on linux/windows) is a great scp client if you want a >> gui. >> >> B >> >> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Stephen wrote: >>> >>> Hamachi, dropbox, dyndns with ssh/scp, there are many others. >>> >>> On Aug 14, 2012 4:00 PM, "Michael Havens" wrote: >>>> >>>> let's say I'm at starbucks and I need a file off of the computer at the >>>> house. Please, how do I do it? >>>> condition- I do not have a static ipaddress. >>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>> >>>> --- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: how to transfer files
I use Secured FTP which will use SSH. Keith Smith --- On Tue, 8/14/12, Michael Havens wrote: From: Michael Havens Subject: Re: how to transfer files To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Tuesday, August 14, 2012, 11:17 PM dyndns with ssh/filezilla sounds like the way I want to go. But what about suecurity? Shold I just tell it to use a non-standard port? :-)~MIKE~(-: On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:02 PM, JD Austin wrote: For me it's ssh. Filezilla (works on linux/windows) is a great scp client if you want a gui. B On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Stephen wrote: Hamachi, dropbox, dyndns with ssh/scp, there are many others. On Aug 14, 2012 4:00 PM, "Michael Havens" wrote: let's say I'm at starbucks and I need a file off of the computer at the house. Please, how do I do it?condition- I do not have a static ipaddress. :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: anyone want to hire a Linux Expert?
Have you thought about going out on your own? Keith Smith --- On Mon, 8/13/12, Matt Graham wrote: From: Matt Graham Subject: OT: anyone want to hire a Linux Expert? To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Monday, August 13, 2012, 9:29 PM Basically, relentless boneheadedness from corporate is making my job way more unrewarding and difficult than it needs to be. If you're an employer who wants a guy who knows lots about running Linux boxes, is offering a decent wage, isn't completely insane, and is in downtown Phoenix, Tempe, Chandler, or will let me work remotely, I could be interested. Resume: http://crow202.org/~mhgraham/resume/ -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Making Dir writable by WordPress
Hi, I need to make a directory writable so WordPress can upload images to the directory. I'm thinking I need to change the group ownership of the directory to Apache with the user remaining the same. In the past I've change the group and ownership to Apache and was blocked from FTP access after that. Any security issues I need to be aware of? Other approaches? Any advice is much welcomed!! Thank you for your help!! ---- Keith Smith--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: CenturyLink/DirectTV
Thanks Eric! Your question "Do you have a virtualization platform you'll be using for your server(s), or will you be putting this on bare iron?" caused me to chuckle. I'm thinking of buying a netbook and using it for a LAMP server. I like the small footprint, low heat output, and can't beat the price. With a KVM I can share my flat screen, mouse and keyboard. I might not be ready by 8/16. However I am interested in a Server InstallFest in the future. Thanks again for your help! ---- Keith Smith --- On Wed, 8/1/12, Eric Shubert wrote: From: Eric Shubert Subject: Re: CenturyLink/DirectTV To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Wednesday, August 1, 2012, 8:32 AM On 07/30/2012 08:11 AM, keith smith wrote: > > Hi Eric, > > You where one of the people that helped me when I had questions about > configuring Qmail Toaster on CentOS 5. > > I've been toying with the idea of configuring a server and taking > another stab at running a server out of my home office. I've done some > brief research and it appears the way to configure Qmail Toaster on > CentOS 6 is to follow the CentOS 5 install and configuration. Am I on > the right track? > > Thank you for your help then and thank you for your help going forward. > > > Keith Smith > There are a couple community members who have cobbled together scripts that will handle installing QMT on COS6. Those have helped to lay the groundwork for what needs to be done to get things running on COS6. Some of these changes have already been incorporated into the stock packages. I hope to have the stock QMT and QTP COS6-capable by the end of this month, so if you're not in a hurry, I'd wait for that. I'll try to have things ready for the 8/16 Server InstallFest if you'd like to build one there. Even if I don't have the stock stuff done by then, I'm sure we can get a QMT built for you on COS6. Do you have a virtualization platform you'll be using for your server(s), or will you be putting this on bare iron? -- -Eric 'shubes' --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: CenturyLink/DirectTV
Hi Eric, You where one of the people that helped me when I had questions about configuring Qmail Toaster on CentOS 5. I've been toying with the idea of configuring a server and taking another stab at running a server out of my home office. I've done some brief research and it appears the way to configure Qmail Toaster on CentOS 6 is to follow the CentOS 5 install and configuration. Am I on the right track? Thank you for your help then and thank you for your help going forward. ---- Keith Smith --- On Sun, 7/29/12, Eric Shubert wrote: From: Eric Shubert Subject: Re: CenturyLink/DirectTV To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Sunday, July 29, 2012, 7:12 PM On 07/28/2012 11:51 AM, keith smith wrote: > I home office and twitched from a consumer package to a business package > so I would have the ability to run a server. I ran a server part time > for testing only. I was testing out the Qmail Toaster. > > I had a bad experience running a server about 10 years ago. I left the > email relay open and was exploited. Since then I have been leery of > running server out of my house. With Cox, you pretty much need a business account to run a mail server. Otherwise, you'd need to have DynDNS or some other service provider handle your DNS and both incoming and outbound email, which is still less expensive than a business account, but it gets to be a bit of a pain, especially if you plan to have more than a single domain. Cox residential used to block port 80 as well, so if you'll be doing web sites, you'll need a reverse proxy somewhere. On the DSL side of things, I've been running Qmail Toaster on residential DSL since May'06 or so. I had a dynamic address, and used DynDNS for DNS and outbound email. When they started blocking port 25 a few weeks ago, I ponied up for a static address (still a residential account). The additional cost is pretty much offset by the savings in not having to use DynDNS for DNS and outbound email any more. Sorry to hear about your open relay experience, Keith. That's not so easy to do any more, and there are numerous online checkers that will test your configuration for you. FWIW, I took over leadership of the Qmail Toaster project the beginning of this year, and we'd love to see anyone interested join us on the qmail-toaster email list. I know we have a few users in the Phoenix area, and hundreds others world wide. We just finished setting up our DNS infrastructure, and we have 13 DNS servers on 5 continents. Overkill, I know. It's nice to see what the community can do though. I'm eager to see what else is in store. -- -Eric 'shubes' --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: CenturyLink/DirectTV
"I couldn't run the small datacenter in my house with it though.". -- Are you using Cox to do this? I home office and twitched from a consumer package to a business package so I would have the ability to run a server. I ran a server part time for testing only. I was testing out the Qmail Toaster. I had a bad experience running a server about 10 years ago. I left the email relay open and was exploited. Since then I have been leery of running server out of my house. My cable connection has been very stable with just a couple of outages. I think those outages where on my consumer connection. I do not think I have had any outages since twitching. I'd be interested to hear if you are using Cox for your home based data center. -------- Keith Smith --- On Fri, 7/27/12, Michael Butash wrote: From: Michael Butash Subject: Re: CenturyLink/DirectTV To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Friday, July 27, 2012, 10:33 PM Qwest/CL DSL has always proven spotty *at times* with anyone I've ever known using it. As a network guy I inquire with fellow geeks I know, and they let me know. Generally the residential side of Qwest/CL fairly weak on troubleshooting most issues because of simple physical problems that often cannot easily be overcome with 2wire systems. If you can get VDSL, it's decent from what I've heard, as long as you have new wiring, in a new area, and live close to where every they dropped the local dslam. Most fall NOT into this category. Data comes in the form of modulation, and consider 10baset requires 4 wires still, gig ethernet 8. 2-wire is poop compared to the modulation and speed capable on _shielded_ coax. Qwest has simply had to push the envelope with dsl tech to remain relevant in the market, eventually resorting to new wiring (twisted-pair i think), often with some shielding now to achieve it which is hardly traditional for a telco outside of business service. Eventually they had to begin to roll fiber as they were reaching unpractical limitations in their 2wire tech to modulate data at *competitive speeds*. Fixed point-to-multipoint ala old sprint broadband and various others operate in parts that do it too now, sometimes a decent alternative where available I've heard (cave creek area). At least until it is oversubscribed to hell. Sprint acquired independents here in town setting them up, but ultimately they oversold it to death, and finally shot it in the head to finish years later. Not sure this isn't the eventual outcome of any wireless deployment. Satellite is a last-resort option with as stated, latency and bandwidth caps (extreme point-to-multipoint far, far away). If celco's weren't so greedy/proud of wireless LTE tech, it would be decent as a fixed solution as well as mobile as latency and throughput is much improved. I couldn't run the small datacenter in my house with it though. I can however get a LTE EHWIC for a Cisco router now that customers can and do use as a "backup" solution when someone back-hoe's your businesses fiber. Qwest/CL fiber deployment, like fios is "pon", passive-optical network based. These are not to be confused with anything like optical ethernet, sonet, dwdm, etc that are "active" optics. Cable, dsl, most non-optical (generally) are subject to async behavior as you have a small modem, and a very large cmts and active amplifier network driving very large coax feeds at headends and active optical from there. Fiber doesn't have so much those physical limitations so long as the laser can use power in the diode to shoot your frames from here to there some ways (active zx single-mode optics can shoot 60km for gige, raman based dwdm amps much further). PON is a cost-effective way of aggregating fiber in a controlled fashion as you somewhat would a copper plant, only now the techs roll with portable fusion splicers and otdr's instead of qam test kit for coax. Cable is where it's at, when fiber is not. I've too worked at cox, and actually back to @home and offshoot isp back in the day when they started the tech before cox as media whores figured out what IP was. The modulation and timing that drives docsis 3.0 is very scalable for a copper means, and it's nothing cox will need to dig up and replace anytime soon. Other than being a bit proud of watching and working it along the way, it's solid tech. I have some issues with Cox ultimately, but they are one of the less evil of the isp's out there, and generally have much improved stability over most anything else. Generally speaking, the only time I call them is when truly something dies (arizona is hell on coax), as I don't require network support otherwise. I've used them off and on a good 14 years for data, and as long as you have a clean physical connectio
RE: CenturyLink/DirectTV
Wouldn't requiring a business license severely limit their business? ---- Keith Smith --- On Thu, 7/26/12, ChasM Marshall wrote: From: ChasM Marshall Subject: RE: CenturyLink/DirectTV To: "plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us" Date: Thursday, July 26, 2012, 6:11 PM "Dallas" ... "fiber with Internet/TV/Phone all" I'd bet that is Verizon. Sounds like their biz model. My nearby neighbors say that when they ask CL for DSL service, a business license is required. Along with a huge start-up deposit. (-: Chas.M. :-) > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > From: e...@shubes.net > Subject: Re: CenturyLink/DirectTV > Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 07:42:38 -0700 > > I can't say I've had any experience with CL's fiber in particular. > > I can say that I'm favorably impressed with DSL service since CL took > over. While they decided to start blocking port 25 on consumer accounts > recently (6/27 to be specific), I recently converted to a static IP > address and things couldn't have gone more smoothly. It was *all* done > through the web, with no need for any contact with a human (sounds bad, > but is typically good). The new address was picked up automagically by > pppoe. I was then able to unblock port 25 and even set rDNS with the web > interface. All for $25 setup fee plus $5.95 per month extra. Not bad > considering with Cox you need a business account (starts at about $88/mo > incl taxes) in order to have a static address. > > As far as fiber's concerned, I visited a relative in Dallas recently who > had fiber with Internet/TV/Phone all over the fiber. I don't think their > provider was CL, but they said the service was flawless (and they're not > technical at all). > > I would definitely give CL's fiber serious consideration. > > -- > -Eric 'shubes' > > On 07/25/2012 07:07 PM, Mark Astrauskas wrote: > > I saw such reviews online, but all seemed to be regarding when they ran > > as Qwest. I'm hoping to hear from a recent customer that knows if the > > new management/rebranding has improved anything. > > > > Putting aside the billing problems, how was the service itself? > > > > On 7/25/2012 6:31 PM, Stephen wrote: > >> > >> My experience dates back to the qwest/uswest says where "features" > >> would magically appear on my account. Things like vm and long distance > >> on my modem line ect. So i have really had very little interest in > >> going back. > >> > >> On Jul 25, 2012 6:26 PM, "Mark Astrauskas" >> <mailto:ap...@cox.net>> wrote: > >> > >> CenturyLink recently laid fiber in my area and is pitching their > >> new Internet/DirectTV service. Does anyone have recent experience > >> with CenturyLink's fiber offering or with DirectTV as well? It > >> looks like I could save a good amount every month and could even > >> get a faster speed, so I'm strongly considering it. > >> > >> Yelp reviews are awful, but so are the Cox Cable ones (my current > >> provider), so I'm seeking any firsthand comments or experiences. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Mark > >> --- > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >> <mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us> > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >> > >> > >> > >> --- > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list -PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Cellular Modems
I don't know this for a fact, however I hear you can use certain smart phones as a wifi hot spot. ---- Keith Smith --- On Mon, 7/23/12, AZ Pete wrote: From: AZ Pete Subject: OT: Cellular Modems To: "PLUG Discuss" Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 1:40 PM Hi All, I am looking to pickup a cellular USB modem that my wife and I can use on her laptop when traveling (rather than relying solely on trying to find free Wifi). I know that there are providers where I can purchase the modem device and purchase a month-to-month data plan. I'm looking to go pre-paid as I don't need (or want) to have a recurring monthly bill when I'm not using it. In case it matters, this would be for a Win7 laptop. Any recommendations?? Thanks, Peter -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Laptop Battery Life
Ok, That is good info. Thank you. If I were to get 5 years of a laptop battery used under normal conditions, I'd be very happy. ---- Keith Smith --- On Sun, 7/22/12, Joseph Sinclair wrote: From: Joseph Sinclair Subject: Re: Laptop Battery Life To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Sunday, July 22, 2012, 11:30 AM Current Li-Ion chemistry is much improved from a few years ago, and self-discharge rates are a lot lower (hence the amount of charge left after 6 months). It's fine to keep the battery in a drawer (cool/dry, of course) and charge every 6 months. They will probably last longer, but perhaps not for the reason you would expect. You also have to accept that you loose the advantage of the built-in UPS-like behavior of a laptop with a battery, but if you have an external UPS, you may be OK with that. For storage you actually want to partially discharge the battery (to 80%) before putting it away; Li-Ion has self-damaging chemistry at both 100% and 0% (whiskering and swell-cavitation), so you want to discharge to 80% before storing it, then charge back to 80% before it drops below 30% (typically 6-9 months, check it monthly to be on the safe side). Recent systems won't "cook" a battery, the charge circuits automatically avoid overcharge, but any (commonly available) Li-Ion kept at 100% charge for too long will develop internal shorts due to the whiskering effect of high charge separation combined with corrosive internal chemistry. Whiskering does take a rather long time, however, typically 3-5 years for good quality batteries. On 07/22/2012 09:12 AM, keith smith wrote: > > Sometime ago we discussed laptop battery life.� I asked the question about > leaving the battery out and if that would extend the life of the battery.� > I'm not sure that option was explored. > > Last December I took the battery out of my two lap tops.� I use both daily > for about 15 or 16 continuous hours. > > I have been thinking the batteries might be fully drained by now.� Much to my > surprise the newer laptop's battery was at 81% and the older laptop's battery > was at 58%. > > Both are taking a charge.� After they are fully charged I will put them back > in my desk drawer and charge them again in 3 to 6 months. > > I've have had poor performance from laptop batteries and did not want to > "cook" these.� It will be interesting to see if this extends the life of the > battery. > > Any thoughts? > > > > Keith Smith > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Laptop Battery Life
That would make sense. I still do not understand why my cellular battery lasted over 4 years and was still viable when retired. I had much less from laptop batteries. Keith Smith --- On Sun, 7/22/12, Michael Havens wrote: From: Michael Havens Subject: Re: Laptop Battery Life To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Sunday, July 22, 2012, 10:18 AM I think it would because a rechargeable has a maximum amount of charge time on it. at least that is the way it USED to be! On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 9:12 AM, keith smith wrote: Sometime ago we discussed laptop battery life. I asked the question about leaving the battery out and if that would extend the life of the battery. I'm not sure that option was explored. Last December I took the battery out of my two lap tops. I use both daily for about 15 or 16 continuous hours. I have been thinking the batteries might be fully drained by now. Much to my surprise the newer laptop's battery was at 81% and the older laptop's battery was at 58%. Both are taking a charge. After they are fully charged I will put them back in my desk drawer and charge them again in 3 to 6 months. I've have had poor performance from laptop batteries and did not want to "cook" these. It will be interesting to see if this extends the life of the battery. Any thoughts? Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Laptop Battery Life
Sometime ago we discussed laptop battery life. I asked the question about leaving the battery out and if that would extend the life of the battery. I'm not sure that option was explored. Last December I took the battery out of my two lap tops. I use both daily for about 15 or 16 continuous hours. I have been thinking the batteries might be fully drained by now. Much to my surprise the newer laptop's battery was at 81% and the older laptop's battery was at 58%. Both are taking a charge. After they are fully charged I will put them back in my desk drawer and charge them again in 3 to 6 months. I've have had poor performance from laptop batteries and did not want to "cook" these. It will be interesting to see if this extends the life of the battery. Any thoughts? ---- Keith Smith--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: kubuntu 12.04 performance deterioration
Maybe I'm not understand what your looking for, however free and top will show you how much swap you are using. ---- Keith Smith --- On Sat, 7/21/12, j...@actionline.com wrote: From: j...@actionline.com Subject: Re: kubuntu 12.04 performance deterioration To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Saturday, July 21, 2012, 8:38 AM Thanks for the very helpful responses. Can't believe that I had never heard of CTRL+ESC before. That was very revealing, though I don't know which items in that list I could safely remove/kill/delete. Is there some way to save a copy of that list to a text file? My system is a Thinkpad with 1.86GHz processor and 1.5-gig ram I don't know how determine how much "swapping to disk" there is. Could not find any file named /var/log/messages? Thanks to the CTRL+ESC tip, I could indeed see that some processes are consuming a lot of memory (like krunner), and that is one reason why I'd like to be able to post the list that CTRL+ESC reveals. One more very strange problem, I uninstalled and reinstalled Firefox and then it worked once and then apparently vanished again. It appears in the menu, but when I click on the menu icon, a desktop firefox icon bounces for a few seconds (how to stop that annoying effect?) and then vanishes and firefox does not load. --- Brian wrote: > A runaway task would be my guess as well (Ctrl + ESC is > your friend). I've installed the lastest kubuntu on many > machines and I've had the opposite results. KDE just keeps > getting faster and faster with every new release including > 4.9 which has a very noticable speed increase. > Was this a fresh install, or an upgrade? -- Previously, James Mcphee wrote: > Standard system troubleshooting would be a good place to start. What is > your IO and CPU like? Are you swapping to disk a lot? Do you have any > obvious errors in /var/log/messages? Do some of your processes consume > an inordinate amount of memory? etc etc > Standard system troubleshooting would be a good place to start. > What is your IO and CPU like? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
OT: Microsoft Reports First Ever Quarterly Loss
Though everyone might find this interesting. Not a cash flow issue it was cause by the devaluing of an asset. REDMOND, Wash. (AP) — Microsoft says an accounting adjustment to reflect a weak online ad business led to its first quarterly loss as a public company. http://seattle.cbslocal.com/2012/07/19/microsoft-reports-first-ever-quarterly-loss/ Keith Smith--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
OT: Android Dev Questions
Posted to PLUG, TFUG, AzPHP I wondering about trends. Currently I make my living as a LAMP developer. The market seems strong and lots of main stream apps are built with PHP. So I expect the market to continue to be strong for 10 – 15 years. That is the time frame I am interested in. Things are moving rather fast now. Cheap hardware is now a reality. It looks like a smart phone has more CPU and RAM than the laptop I bought 10 year ago, and the desktop I bought 7 year ago. I think I saw a smart phone that had a dual core 1.5ghtz processor and a gig of RAM. My first 2 computers didn't even have hard drives.. I'm intrigued by Android development. Seems there is really only one option and that is the Android SDK that is modified Java. I don't find Java to be intuitive, however I can live with it. My main question has to do with compatibility. A friend tells me he thinks there are comparability issues between manufactures since they modify Android to met their needs and the lack of standards. After exchanging emails, it sounds like writing Android code is like writing JavaScript that needs to run in all the currently available browsers. We have JavaScript solutions – MooTools, jQuery … etc. However in the short time I've been looking at Android development, I have not found any information on compatibility issues (however I have not search either). I have lots of questions. What is the life expectancy of Android? Will it be around 15 years from now? How hard is it to upgrade a phone to a newer version of Android? Are there any compatibility issues? How does one monetize Android application development skills? Where can I find quality used Android phones? What device would you recommend I use to learn Android development – Phone, Tablet, Simulator? Thank you so much for all your insight. -------- Keith Smith--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Software Licensing Fees
Andrew makes a good point of things must be win-win. Sounds like they are not. If the business is not viable, it may be time to cut your losses. A sad fact, however this decision is the harsh reality of being in business. It does sound like the business is hanging in there though. Might be a good time to re-negotiate a more limited relationship. From what you are saying you are not that easily replaced - from a financial perspective. Of course you will have to take into consideration what your desired compensation is. I would guess the business owner knows things are not as good as they could be for all involved. Maybe if you start by educating the business owner about your current compensation level, market compensation for a PHP consultant, you being at risk, etc, and then ask how to make this arrangement win-win, you might be surprised at what might be offered. Keith Smith --- On Mon, 7/9/12, AZ Pete wrote: From: AZ Pete Subject: Re: OT: Software Licensing Fees To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Monday, July 9, 2012, 11:52 PM Hi All, First of all thanks to those folks who responded with some helpful points. To clarify some of the questions asked: I understand with glaring clarity that I'm am replaceable and know making demands never works. Over the years, the company's revenue has increased. But also over the years, I've spent more time adding features. It was probably my fault for not clearly detailing how much time I'd spend adding features & functionality versus just maintaining the existing application. Last year I did a bit of calculation on how much time I spend on maintaining and improving the application versus my percentage of revenue compensation and I came to a rate of about $15/hour. While in the very beginning of this project, I did it more for the learning of building a large application and the money was a nice side job. But now, it seems the hours got longer (due to significantly increased code base) and the pay didn't keep pace. At ~$15/hr it's just not worth the time to keep staying on the project. However, to get the compensation to a more "market-rate" level seems very difficult. The revenues for this business market (its academia & government) has been going steady down (the owner must keep lowering bids each year to get a contract). Looking at the numbers coming in, if he had to pay me a market-rate for programming, his IT budget would double or more and the business would go under. Which leads me to think that perhaps this isn't a viable business anymore if one can't make enough income to cover the costs of infrastructure. Maybe it's time to let this one go... Thanks for letting me rant! Peter On 7/9/2012 8:01 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: I don't quite understand what is going on. Has their gross revenue remained flat for all these years, do you are not making add much as before? Or, are you now thinking that the percentage is too low? Are you spending more time maintaining their servers and performing updates than when you started? Are you creating new functionality for them? Mark On Jul 9, 2012 7:16 PM, "AZ Pete" wrote: Hi All, I'm in a bit of a quandary about fees I'm receiving from a long time client and thought I'd tap the PLUG brain-trust to get some input. This situation is this: A few years ago I developed a PHP application that a client uses to run their business (its a typical LAMP platform). Without getting into tedious details, this software application is used to run their entire business. It is understood that the software ownship resides with me and they are paying for its use - licensing it, if you will. At the start of this project, we agreed upon a certain percentage of gross revenue that I would receive as payment for use of this software. In return, I would maintain the software, provide various updates or additions, and some light server admin work to keep the application running. This arrangement has been working quite well and the business relationship is excellent. However, I feel now that the percentage I receive is too low (it hasn't been changed since the start of this venture). I have broached t
Re: How to auto-start /etc/init.d/sshd start
Determine which run level(s) you want it to start on You will need to use chkconfig. It will be something like chkconfig --level 345 ssh . http://linuxcommand.org/man_pages/chkconfig8.html Keith Smith --- On Sun, 7/1/12, j...@actionline.com wrote: From: j...@actionline.com Subject: How to auto-start /etc/init.d/sshd start To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Sunday, July 1, 2012, 12:53 PM How can I get the following command to run automatically whenever I boot up my Thinkpad? # /etc/init.d/sshd start Normally, I have to su to root, and then run the command. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones
What about service - like out in rural areas. Between here and Tucson. I like T-Mobile's plan and price points, however I am concerned about coverage. Please share your thoughts. Thanks! ---- Keith Smith --- On Sun, 6/24/12, Mark Phillips wrote: From: Mark Phillips Subject: Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Sunday, June 24, 2012, 9:22 AM As a point of comparison, t-mobile offers an unlimited voice, text, and data plan for 2 phones for $140/month. Unlimited data means 2 gb at 4g speeds, and if you exceed that, they just throttle you back to 2g at no additional charge. They have lots of good android smart phones available (no iphones). I have had 4 phones with then for many many years, and I keep renewing every 2 years. Don't go to a franchise store unless you know it is a good one. Go to a corporate store for best service. Mark On Jun 23, 2012 8:42 PM, "Lyle Tuttle" wrote: We have two Verizon HTC Thunderbolts - new in Feb 2011. $174/month, unlimited everything.voice, text, data...' Have never had it freeze; rebooted on its own once but I think that was an update. Worst problem is battery life.very short, even with larger battery. One day will go all day, next day need to charge twice in one day - low usage.go figure. Did you know verizon has a box that will serve as your phone? $20/mo unlimited calls in/out..it received via cell signal and you plug your phone into it.and US Cellular has a small "deck of cards, only half as thick" Samsung "hot spot"$25 for up to 2 gig of data/month I learned the above after bad storm left sis-in-law without phone or internet for 4 days..guess what she has now!!? At 02:12 PM 6/22/2012, James Dugger wrote: I have been with Verizion ever since our other carrirer was buoght by them in the mid nineties. I have had a Driod and currently have a Droid X. I can't really compare the difference between carriers in dropped calls but we get are share of dropped calls as well. My wife and son have the iphone 4s and love it. My wife had an older Droid and it used to drop calls more than here iphone. Having used both (my wife's iphone and my Droid X) my comparison would be as follows: Screen Freeze Droid - this happens quite often on both the older and newer Droids (though not as much on the X) iphone - rarely freezes. Keyboard key selection Droid - They both struggle (especially in the portrait keyboard) to pick the correct letter/number. iphone - Even with fat fingers it is uncanny to me how the portrait keyboard can still seem to pick the right letter/number Text completion Droid - Okay iphone - Great slightly faster Animatromics (screen responsiveness) Droid - slight hesitancy at times iphone - smooth and quick I have no experience with HTC however my brother has the Samsung Nexus II through Version and says that it runs circles around his old Droid, and is much closer to the iphone with respect to hardware responsiveness and features. Since the versions of OS Android is somewhat splintered across different devices, there are a couple of other points to consider if an android phone is your preferred choice: Google owns Android and Motorola ( Droid ), but Nexus is a Google sponsored partnership program for application and hardware development for the official release version of Android by Google. Currently Samsung is the Nexus partner. This may have changed and I may be wrong, but it is my understanding that anything Android with the Nexus name is part of this partnership with Google. On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Stephen wrote: Android brutally fc's inactive apparently to free space before that goes. On Jun 22, 2012 9:59 AM, "Eric Cope" wrote: Thats interesting to hear about not rebooting? Maybe the tide is changing. Someone I carpool with is also constantly having to close apps because the phone is "out of memory". Does anyone else experience this? I think the iPhone forces stale apps out of memory automatically (I never get an out of memory notice). Can anyone comment on that? Eric On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Stephen wrote: I forgot. On a rooted phone there is an app that will backup your root so you can switch root on and off easily so you can do some root only tasks and then unroot for day to day. Its called voodoo ota rootkeeper On Jun 22, 2012 8:46 AM, "keith smith" wrote: Hi, This is very OT. I have been with verizon for 8 years. Voice only. It has been 4 years since I upgraded our phones. It is just my wife and I. We are thinking of going with smart phones. A friend suggested HTC phones because of the better quality of speaker and mic. Voice quality is very important to me. As it stands we can get unlimited voice for $120/mo, 1000 tex
Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones
$900 for a cellular bill is a lot. Next Thursday Verizon's plans change. There is some good and some bad. My wife and I have no use for texting or data. However we are going to move forward and get both next week. Next week Verizon will charge $40 per phone for UNLIMITED voice and texting. Since we will not need much data we will go with either 1G ($50) or 2G ($60) of data per month. Realistically the only reason I want data is for viewing websites to see how they look on a cellular phone. After I start using it I might enjoy the GPS feature and the ability to use my phone like my computer while away from home. I rarely leave home though. I home office so if I use the phone for data I understand it will be using wifi and not going against my cellular allotment. Silly though, since I am sitting at my computer and can use it for data.. Data will go the way voice has gone. In 1992 I bought a brick phone. I was able to get in on my employer's plan at 25 cents a minute peak and 10 or 15 cents a minute off peak. The phone was over $300. About a year and a half later I moved to a flip phone. It cost close to $300 also. As I recall I had 4 batteries because the battery life was about 4 hours. We have come a long way. We have turned the corner to UNLIMITED voice. Data will go the way voice has gone -->> Hopefully it will not take 20 plus years. I looked at straight talk. Very affordable. I think they limit you to 30MB a month for data. Might use that by visiting one unoptimized webpage. -------- Keith Smith --- On Fri, 6/22/12, Michael Butash wrote: From: Michael Butash Subject: Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Friday, June 22, 2012, 10:37 PM I have a galaxy nexus now, and I'm rather torn with it. It's the second samsung android that has given me nothing but fits, and I'm thoroughly convinced samsung cannot make hardware to save their life. I suffer from various issues from bluetooth/wifi instability, audio routing issues, simple reboots, you name it. But the display is friggin' beautiful. I snubbed a razr maxx because of the display, and cursed motorola for not having a 720p phone to compete at the time, as I'd take a moto phone any day. I've had a bionic and droidx, and both were good until either getting crashed on concrete or taking a swim inadvertently. Definitely noticed android usability got well improved with dual core going from dx to bionic, really looking forward to quad's. Just need to fix the battery life, as my gnex kills me with ~5hr use on charge. Service wise - I'm shopping right now after getting a +$900 phone bill this month from them. I've considered for a while, as for 3 phones, 2 with data, one 4g hotspot, I pay almost 250/mo, after a 21% employee discount. Slapping me upside the face for voice overage charges, even after I upgraded to unlimited minutes this month to avoid it has really been a bit too much. After years of that, it is starting to hurt just for the absurd cost alone. This is twice vzw has got me to leave, though first time I came back after sprint proved absolutely horrid both in wireless and customer service. A buddy went to straight-talk from att, which straight-talk uses att, and actually gets better quality service. I've noticed just from talking to him and not getting disconnected 3 times on every call. 460/mo I think for voice service is pretty damn reasonable, as I more or less consider voice legacy technology. I'm not keen on giving up on vzw's 4g service, especially my unlimited data @30/mo, but I know it's only a matter of time before they just screw everyone with it anyways. I've also read Clear Wireless has very reasonable rates, planning to do some more research on them this weekend. Vzw's new "shared data" is a joke, and more absurd than any of their current pricing. I was actually looking forward to it, as between my hotspot and phone, I don't really use *that* much data. Hotspot is more of a backup for work and really rarely used unless im traveling, so shared minutes should be a boon, but I'd pay well more than what I get today. I'd like a connected tablet too, but can't justify another 40-60/mo for one on a non-shared plan, and doesn't justify their shared at all. As much as I like vzw's service, it's getting harder to justify their cost, especially when they screw with me with an absurd bill. -mb On 06/22/2012 08:45 AM, keith smith wrote: > > > Hi, > > This is very OT. > > I have been with verizon for 8 years. Voice only. It has been 4 years > since I upgraded our phones. It is just my wife and I. > > We are thinking of going with smart phones. > > A friend suggested HTC phones because of the better quality
OT Verizon Smart Phones
Hi, This is very OT. I have been with verizon for 8 years. Voice only. It has been 4 years since I upgraded our phones. It is just my wife and I. We are thinking of going with smart phones. A friend suggested HTC phones because of the better quality of speaker and mic. Voice quality is very important to me. As it stands we can get unlimited voice for $120/mo, 1000 texts for $10/mo and 2G of data for each phone for $20/ea/mo. Total is about $170/mo + tax and fees. I like verizon because they have always provided top of the line service. I've briefly looked at Straigt-Talk, T-Mobile, and Sprint. My fear with these providers is quality of the call, availability, and dropped calls. Any suggestions on which phone to get? From prior conversations on this list it seems a Droid phone is the way to go. I don't think I will ever want to take the time to root my phone, however you never know. What about phone apps and other things I might not be thinking about? I appreciate all the feedback you will provide! Thank you in advance for your help!! ---- Keith Smith--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Dell disks
I have several Dells and have added HD's to 2 of them w/o any problem. They are a little older. Things could have changed. I'd do more due diligence though, just to make sure. ---- Keith Smith --- On Mon, 6/18/12, Mark Jarvis wrote: From: Mark Jarvis Subject: OT: Dell disks To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Monday, June 18, 2012, 10:05 PM I'm considering buying a Dell desktop (Inspiron 620), but a few years ago I was warned off them because Dell did something different to their disks so that you had to buy replacement/additional disks only from Dell. Any chance that it's still true? -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: small computer overview
I don't think it has WiFi though. It does have a case and it looks like it will take a common power source. ---- Keith Smith --- On Fri, 6/15/12, Lisa Kachold wrote: From: Lisa Kachold Subject: Re: small computer overview To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Friday, June 15, 2012, 12:44 PM Great Call Keith, It's got a SATA port and a faster processor! On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 10:49 AM, keith smith wrote: What about this guy? http://liliputing.com/2012/03/mele-a1000-is-a-70-hackable-linux-friendly-arm-based-pc.html -------- Keith Smith --- On Fri, 6/15/12, Ted Gould wrote: From: Ted Gould Subject: Re: small computer overview To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Friday, June 15, 2012, 7:23 AM On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 01:12 -0700, Dazed_75 wrote: > I don't really have a use for any of them though I have a raspberry on > order. That mostly because it is a cheap toy. That said I kind of > have 3 favorites: I've seen a bunch of discussion around this guy lately. Considering getting one to run a few little tasks on (cron jobs and the like). $80 with WiFi. https://plus.google.com/114546378907380458640/posts Starts with Android, but there are Ubuntu images in the forum that apparently work. --Ted -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- (503) 754-4452 Android (623) 239-3392 Skype (623) 688-3392 Google Voice ** Safeway.com Automation Engineer -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: small computer overview
What about this guy? http://liliputing.com/2012/03/mele-a1000-is-a-70-hackable-linux-friendly-arm-based-pc.html Keith Smith --- On Fri, 6/15/12, Ted Gould wrote: From: Ted Gould Subject: Re: small computer overview To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Friday, June 15, 2012, 7:23 AM On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 01:12 -0700, Dazed_75 wrote: > I don't really have a use for any of them though I have a raspberry on > order. That mostly because it is a cheap toy. That said I kind of > have 3 favorites: I've seen a bunch of discussion around this guy lately. Considering getting one to run a few little tasks on (cron jobs and the like). $80 with WiFi. https://plus.google.com/114546378907380458640/posts Starts with Android, but there are Ubuntu images in the forum that apparently work. --Ted -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Fedora Pays Microsoft Boot License fee.
During the mid 80's software manufactures tried to lock down their software. What they found was stopping pirating entirely reduced sales. Who would have known. The thought at the time was that without the ability to copy and try, some were unwilling to buy. Unintended byproduct. The other thing that happens was a work around. There were several apps that would unlock the software and allow it to be installed anywhere. If the hardware manufactures lock down their hardware several things are going to happen. someone will create an open source / free app to beat the hardware lock. Another unintended consequence could be surplus (used) hardware become unusable. Another consequence could be a niche market for unlocked hardware, which could cause the OEM's to lose market share. Yet another unintended consequence is the potential for increased support by M$. I seem to recall a number of years ago M$ tried to lock down it's OS and support was a big issue and they stopped the practice. If they lock down the hardware, I will not buy Dell or HP any longer. I will build my own. -------- Keith Smith --- On Sat, 6/9/12, Derek Trotter wrote: From: Derek Trotter Subject: Re: Fedora Pays Microsoft Boot License fee. To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Saturday, June 9, 2012, 9:13 PM From the article mentioned in the original post: Microsoft’s practice is facilitated by the UEFI, or Unified Extensible Firmware Interface, which allows a manufacturer to lock down the boot process so that it will only work on their specified conditions. What's to keep Microsoft from telling a manufacturer they must lock down the machine so no other operating system will boot on it if they want licenses to install windows on their machines? On 6/9/2012 17:14, Eric Shubert wrote: I don't see how that would be a problem. Please reference exact part of the article which leads you to believe that. BL, there's a lot of misinformation about this. I don't think it's anything to be concerned about. -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
OT: Get Cheap Laptops
I receive the weekly specials email from Staples and OfficeMax. I have been able to save some money on laptop computers. I only use the sub $400 ones. Right now I have two. One is my LAMP sever for development and the other is my workstation. Here is an example of what is offered on a regular basis. http://www.officemax.com/technology/computers/laptop-computers/product-prod3940988?EDID=GIVGW7-3AG0B-SHV975-DIC0B3-R7V8P-v1&cm_mmc=Email-_-promo-_-wk22frimp-_-ToshibaLaptop ---- Keith Smith--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: What's the best high speed internet option?
Do you know what network they are using? Have you traveled? If so how was your access or availability of a signal? Keith Smith --- On Fri, 5/11/12, Bob Elzer wrote: From: Bob Elzer Subject: Re: What's the best high speed internet option? To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Friday, May 11, 2012, 12:54 PM If you reach 2.5GB of data in a month, you will receive a text message letting you know your data speeds will be reduced for the rest of your plan month. You can check how much data you've used at any time during the month by logging in to your account I believe most if not all carriers define what unlimited is. you can check out the info here http://www.virginmobileusa.com/cell-phone-plans/beyond-talk-plans.jsp# I do not like to pay ungodly amounts for a phone I don't use that much for talking. Since I've got this play a year and a half ago, I mostly use the web on it, I've never gone over my minutes or the data. Obviously your mileage may vary. As far as I know it is the cheapest plan around for that much data. On 5/11/2012 12:13 PM, Carruth, Rusty wrote: > Huh? Unlimited is 2.5GB??? What happens when you try to use 2.5GB + 1K? If > it fails then that's not unlimited, IMHO! > > >> -Original Message- >> >> I have Virgin mobile no contract, I signed up and still have the $25 >> rate which has now been changed to $35 >> >> You get 300 minutes a month and unlimited web/data/email which they >> call unlimited=2.5GB was 5 then 3 >> > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
was: What's the best high speed internet option? / now: comment on video.
Very interesting video. Did you get a case number from the officer and explain why you were there? Have you read what he wrote? If the police are doing their job, they can be an asset to you in that they are a "credible" witness. Of curse only if they are doing the right thing. ---- Keith Smith --- On Thu, 5/10/12, Jim March <1.jim.ma...@gmail.com> wrote: From: Jim March <1.jim.ma...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: What's the best high speed internet option? To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Thursday, May 10, 2012, 5:56 PM On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Carruth, Rusty wrote: Tmobile has a sort-of unlimited option. You decide how much ‘high speed capable’ internet you want per month 500M, 1G, 2G, IIRC). When you exceed that, you ‘automatically’ fall back to slow (I’m guessing 56K). Beware that even if you force your phone (or whatever) to slow speed TMobile still counts the usage as ‘high speed capable’…. Rusty I'm paying $80/mo for unlimited voice and 5gigs/mo of data. If I blow out that 5gigs they slow me down to "EDGE/2G" speeds which still isn't half bad - closer to 128k as opposed to 56, still usable. I walked into that deal already owning a phone. My latest phone is an Android 2.3 "MyTouch 4G" (HTC Glacier) which is fairly easy to root/mod and is otherwise a pretty good phone. 4G data is fast enough to live-stream video and audio to a server in Sweden which is kinda my "killer app" for it :). See also this site for my latest capture: http://www.pixiq.com/article/arizona-election-officials-call-cops-on-man-recording-them I paid $100 for that phone used, cash, at a pawn shop. I could have paid $60/mo for their current cheapest Android 4G phone but then I'd also pay $15/mo extra on my bill for TWO YEARS, which comes to $460 total with a big up-front tax. Oh hell no - cruise Craigslist, pawn shops, etc :). So far as I know, only Tmobile will knock huge amounts off the bill if you walk in with a phone in hand. Their 4G coverage area is also very good. They're not as fast as AT&T, Verizon or Sprint "LTE" coverage, but they're still damned good. What they've done is, they bumped up their older 3G system (HPSA) with HPSA+ to call it 4G and it really is a speed bump. But better yet, as they roll out new HPSA+ towers the HPSA 3G devices are also supported so they're the only ones out there increasing their 3G coverage areas. And Tmobile's 3G data doesn't really suck either - you get typically 1.25mb/s inbound, 250-300k outbound which is fine unless you need to stream-upload video like I do. You can grab 3G Android devices for a song if you look around. Their 4G is for me is usually 4mb/s or so inbound, a bit above 1mb/s outbound. Jim -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: What's the best high speed internet option?
I think T-Mobile might have some low priced unlimited voice and data plan if you own the phone. You might have to do some research to uncover it. Keith Smith --- On Thu, 5/10/12, Stephen wrote: From: Stephen Subject: Re: What's the best high speed internet option? To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Thursday, May 10, 2012, 5:15 PM Verizon has a 4g hotspots you can get. Or you can get a phone and activate a similar function. But the only unlimited vendor left is sprint that I recall. They have similar options. On May 10, 2012 5:11 PM, wrote: . What's the best high speed internet option? I currently have Qwest/Century-Link DSL with my home phone land line, and no internet with my little-used, pay-as-you-go cell phone, or for my laptop and tablet other than wireless whenever we travel and find a connection. So, what other options might be good to consider? i.e. is there a viable, cost-effective mobile "hot-spot" internet alternative for multiple devices that I could use both at home and on the go? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT : Need help with a CAPTCHA in ASP
Thank you to everyone who replied!! Keith Smith --- On Thu, 5/3/12, JD Austin wrote: From: JD Austin Subject: Re: OT : Need help with a CAPTCHA in ASP To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Thursday, May 3, 2012, 4:01 PM I am also not an ASP guy.. but these looks promising:http://www.mondor.org/captcha.aspx http://captcha.codeplex.com/ On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 9:59 AM, keith smith wrote: This is off topic. I'm helping a friend with his site written is ASP. I'm a PHP programmer with limited ASP skills. Need help configuring a CAPTCHA for his site. If you are interested let me know off list. Thank You! -------- Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: laptop battery cycling
I run 2 laptops all day - about 14 hours a day. I pulled both batteries. They are in my desk drawer where they have been for 4+ months. Your saying it is better to just leave the battery in the laptop at 100% than to remove it? I wonder what they life expectancy is? What would be your guess? I never take the these two laptops off A/C. I when to laptops last year in the hope of less heat. And I buy cheap laptops. Both were on sale. Cheaper than a desktop. Keith Smith --- On Sun, 5/6/12, Jim March <1.jim.ma...@gmail.com> wrote: From: Jim March <1.jim.ma...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: laptop battery cycling To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Sunday, May 6, 2012, 4:34 PM My VERY limited understanding is, the problem isn't "overcharging" exactly. It's that Li-Ion batteries are weird. They last longest when charged between 50% and 80% - as opposed to 100%. But bad news: maintaining the battery at a level below 20% is just as bad as keeping it at 100% if not worse, so...leaving it out really isn't a good solution either. What we REALLY need is a switch or setting in the laptop that will cause a 100% charge when you know you'll need more battery life soon, otherwise the default charge level is maintained at around 75%. But that would confoose too many people...might be a good FOSS project for geeks though? Failing that, the best solution is to leave it in there. Yes, the battery will slowly degrade. But, at least you have protection from a sudden crash if you accidentally the power plug :(. If you can afford it, run two batteries - swapping once every week or two (or however long it takes for it to naturally drain to about 50%), with the one about to go on the shelf being deliberately drained to about 80% first. Jim On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: For the record, I'm running a Lenovo T420i with a 6 cell battery. In the past I've been told that it's bad practice to run a laptop on AC with the battery installed because it would cause reduced battery capacity. This raises two questions. First, is it true that laptop batteries don't have overcharge protection, and second, how many cycles is a battery like mine good for? -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk+nBncACgkQv5BYD41UknmLzgCZAdcVTtb1rXlcYNq15fkxqieJ hP4AoJbCgJ0yPgIsMqdCGeNvWOBnQ2pz =chRS -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
OT : Need help with a CAPTCHA in ASP
This is off topic. I'm helping a friend with his site written is ASP. I'm a PHP programmer with limited ASP skills. Need help configuring a CAPTCHA for his site. If you are interested let me know off list. Thank You! ---- Keith Smith--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Accounting software.
An LLC is seen as a partnership by the IRS unless you ask the IRS to see your LLC as an S-Corp. At least that is the experience I've had. So if you do not request the IRS see your LLC as a S-Corp you will have to report your business earnings or losses on a schedule C. I would consult an attorney who is well versed in forming LLC's if you are planning to form an LLC. You might spend $500 to form an LLC. You can do it yourself by researching the Arizona Revised Statues, however there is always that one little detail that is overlooked that can become a big deal down the road. ---- Keith Smith --- On Thu, 4/26/12, Eric Cope wrote: From: Eric Cope Subject: Re: Accounting software. To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Thursday, April 26, 2012, 11:47 PM For tax purposes, LLCs and S-Corp are the same. I've heard S-Corps have stronger corporate veils... YMMV. You can do all the leg work yourself, but its probably worth paying someone to jockey around for you the forms and teach you the intervals to submit all the silly paperwork to ADoR and the IRS. See if you can find an accountant in your area to help. I'd expect the costs to be $300-500. The paperwork, ads, etc will be $200-300 doing it yourself. Good luck! Eric On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:41 PM, Michael Havens wrote: my business is going to be a servic-based business. I will be doing secret-shopping and product demonstrations in stores. If someone would teach me what I need to do I would really appreciate it. I'm thinkng an LLC. I mean who knows what will hiappen if someone gets sick after eating something if I prepared it wrong. On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Michael Havens wrote: yeah I heard about quasar on linuxappfinder.com . I wanted to hear some real world opinions. Why would Quasar not befor a home business? (that is what this will be) What is the point of sale module? On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Kevin Fries wrote: For small business (not home), I like a package called Quasar (http://www.linuxcanada.com). It is free for a single machine that does not require the point of sale module. Professional tool to do a professional job. Kevin On Apr 26, 2012 5:48 PM, "Nathan England" wrote: Seriously? LibreOffice Calc. If linux had even a *semi* decent accounting program I believe a LOT more companies and individuals would be willing to use linux on the desktop. Unfortunately, they all suck. Badly. http://moneydance.com/ Is by far the best, though it is not free and better for personal accounting, not for a business. It is getting better at the business side. GnuCash is an accounting program but it is so complicated to use it is not worth the time or hassle. Sorry Mike! I used one some time ago that was actually really good, but the company made it gargantuanly expensive and it competes with Peach Tree accounting software. Your last bet is: http://www.linuxledgers.com http://www.ledgersmb.org/ http://sql-ledger.com/ Good luck installing them! --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: CodeIgniter books
Hi Eric, Intriguing book, Thanks! Keith Smith --- On Tue, 4/24/12, Eric Cope wrote: From: Eric Cope Subject: Re: CodeIgniter books To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 9:37 AM Jamie Rumbelow just released his cookbook book. http://codeigniterhandbook.com/ Eric On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:35 AM, keith smith wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a book or two that really explains how to get things done with CodeIgniter. From how to leverage CI in application development to advanced topics like creating a CMS, forum, or community website. Any recommendations? Thanks in advance! -------- Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
CodeIgniter books
Hi, I'm looking for a book or two that really explains how to get things done with CodeIgniter. From how to leverage CI in application development to advanced topics like creating a CMS, forum, or community website. Any recommendations? Thanks in advance! ---- Keith Smith--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Free PHP Directory Code w/reviews
Thanks Matt, Could be used for a number of projects. Such as restaurant listings - URL, Description, and reviews. Or a list of websites with reviews. Or a list of CMS' with reviews. I'm looking for something like DMOZ add reviews. Article submission would be a plus also. Actually if I could download just the source code for DMOZ that might be a good starting place. Any feedback is much welcome. ---- Keith Smith --- On Wed, 4/11/12, Matt Graham wrote: From: Matt Graham Subject: Re: OT: Free PHP Directory Code w/reviews To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2012, 2:45 PM From: keith smith > I'm wondering if anyone knows of any Free PHP Directory Website > Software that allows for reviews? I think you need to explain what it is that you want in more detail. What are you making a directory of? Who's reviewing the things that are in the directory? How much traffic do you think this'll get? If you answer these questions, someone may be able to say, "Use package NNN on freshmeat.net", or "just kludge something together with wordpress/drupal/joomla and call it good". (Vague specifications in => garbage out, usually) -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
OT: Free PHP Directory Code w/reviews
Hi, I'm wondering if anyone knows of any Free PHP Directory Website Software that allows for reviews? Thanks in advance! ---- Keith Smith--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Drop Box - is it secure?
Thank you to everyone who replied. Worse than I thought. Keith Smith --- On Mon, 4/9/12, Stephen wrote: From: Stephen Subject: Re: OT: Drop Box - is it secure? To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Monday, April 9, 2012, 1:43 PM you have 2 options, encrypt it before you share it. use pgp for example. or not to use it. To be fair it is a 3rd party company and it is their business to be trustworthy. but it really depends on how trusting you are of a 3rd party company. On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 1:38 PM, keith smith wrote: Hi, Someone wants me to share some confidential information by uploading documents to his Drop Box account. My gut tells me this is not a secure was to transfer confidential information. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance! ---- Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
OT: Drop Box - is it secure?
Hi, Someone wants me to share some confidential information by uploading documents to his Drop Box account. My gut tells me this is not a secure was to transfer confidential information. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance! Keith Smith--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: dot htaccess 301 redirect not working
I found the solution. I need to use the below code to catch the query string.
RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} ^querystringtext$
Problem solved.
Keith Smith
--- On Fri, 4/6/12, keith smith wrote:
From: keith smith
Subject: dot htaccess 301 redirect not working
To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
Date: Friday, April 6, 2012, 8:43 PM
Hi,
I'm trying to configure some 301 redirects.
The old URL looks like this : www.mydomain.tld/article.php?id=1
I need it to redirect to a new URL like this
www.mydomain.TLD/category-name/article-name
This Works : note I removed the ?id=1 from RewriteRule ^article\.php$
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^mydomain\.tld$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^www\.mydomain\.tld$
RewriteRule ^article\.php$
"http\:\/\/www\.mydomain\.tld\/category-name\/article-name" [R=301,L]
This does not work - Note : RewriteRule ^article\.php?id=1$
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^mydomain\.tld$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^www\.mydomain\.tld$
RewriteRule ^article\.php?id=1$
"http\:\/\/www\mydomain\.tld\category-name\/article-name" [R=301,L]
Thank you for any guidance.
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dot htaccess 301 redirect not working
Hi,
I'm trying to configure some 301 redirects.
The old URL looks like this : www.mydomain.tld/article.php?id=1
I need it to redirect to a new URL like this
www.mydomain.TLD/category-name/article-name
This Works : note I removed the ?id=1 from RewriteRule ^article\.php$
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^mydomain\.tld$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^www\.mydomain\.tld$
RewriteRule ^article\.php$
"http\:\/\/www\.mydomain\.tld\/category-name\/article-name" [R=301,L]
This does not work - Note : RewriteRule ^article\.php?id=1$
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^mydomain\.tld$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^www\.mydomain\.tld$
RewriteRule ^article\.php?id=1$
"http\:\/\/www\mydomain\.tld\category-name\/article-name" [R=301,L]
Thank you for any guidance.
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Re: OT: Health Insurance
That is always good news!! Thanks! Keith Smith --- On Thu, 3/15/12, Alex Dean wrote: From: Alex Dean Subject: Re: OT: Health Insurance To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Thursday, March 15, 2012, 9:02 AM Keep in mind that if you're self-employed, your premiums & other health-related expenses may be tax-deductible. http://www.irs.gov/publications/p535/ch06.html#en_US_2011_publink1000208843 On Mar 15, 2012, at 10:48 AM, keith smith wrote: > > I took a look and what I saw was a coinsurance of 40% after the deductible is > reached. > > Thanks!! I'll keep researching. > > > Keith Smith > > --- On Thu, 3/15/12, Lisa Kachold wrote: > > From: Lisa Kachold > Subject: Re: OT: Health Insurance > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" > Date: Thursday, March 15, 2012, 8:42 AM > > Blue Cross is the most expensive. Shop around on that link. There are lots > of cheaper alternatives. > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:39 AM, keith smith wrote: > > Thanks! I wonder if that is a leader price. They get you in and then bump > it once underwriting evaluate the insured. > > Blue Cross just quoted $500 a month, $3000 deductible, 40% of first $10,000. > That is $6000 per year in premiums, and a $7000 max deductible per person per > year. > > > > > Keith Smith > > --- On Thu, 3/15/12, Lisa Kachold wrote: > > From: Lisa Kachold > Subject: Re: OT: Health Insurance > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" > Date: Thursday, March 15, 2012, 8:33 AM > > > Hi Keith, > > Check out this search link with an at a glance quote comparison (using 55 > years old for both husband and wife), starting at $187.50 a month. > > In my experience your quote was OUTRAGEOUS (shop around)! > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:02 AM, keith smith wrote: > > Hi, > > I am self employed, a little older, over weight, with a history of high blood > pressure. > > I do not have health insurance and would like to be able to find a reasonable > health insurance plan. > > Recently I received several quotes. $600 a month, $6000 deductible for me > and $6000 deductible my wife. And we must pay 30% of the first $10,000 > (each). These are per year. Once we pay $10,200 (annual premium + annual > copay) of the first $10,000 the insurance kicks in and will pay what is left. > > As a result I have decided to go without insurance. I'd be happy to pay $500 > a month for a normal HMO policy. (well not completely happy, I think $500 a > month is too high). > > Short of building a business that has employees and qualifies for group > health insurance, what can I do? > > Thank you for your insight! > > > Keith Smith > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > -- > (503) 754-4452 Android > (623) 239-3392 Skype > (623) 688-3392 Google Voice > ** > it-clowns.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Inline Attachment Follows- > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > -- > (503) 754-4452 Android > (623) 239-3392 Skype > (623) 688-3392 Google Voice > ** > it-clowns.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Inline Attachment Follows- > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Health Insurance
I took a look and what I saw was a coinsurance of 40% after the deductible is reached. Thanks!! I'll keep researching. ---- Keith Smith --- On Thu, 3/15/12, Lisa Kachold wrote: From: Lisa Kachold Subject: Re: OT: Health Insurance To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Thursday, March 15, 2012, 8:42 AM Blue Cross is the most expensive. Shop around on that link. There are lots of cheaper alternatives. On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:39 AM, keith smith wrote: Thanks! I wonder if that is a leader price. They get you in and then bump it once underwriting evaluate the insured. Blue Cross just quoted $500 a month, $3000 deductible, 40% of first $10,000. That is $6000 per year in premiums, and a $7000 max deductible per person per year. -------- Keith Smith --- On Thu, 3/15/12, Lisa Kachold wrote: From: Lisa Kachold Subject: Re: OT: Health Insurance To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Thursday, March 15, 2012, 8:33 AM Hi Keith, Check out this search link with an at a glance quote comparison (using 55 years old for both husband and wife), starting at $187.50 a month. In my experience your quote was OUTRAGEOUS (shop around)! On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:02 AM, keith smith wrote: Hi, I am self employed, a little older, over weight, with a history of high blood pressure. I do not have health insurance and would like to be able to find a reasonable health insurance plan. Recently I received several quotes. $600 a month, $6000 deductible for me and $6000 deductible my wife. And we must pay 30% of the first $10,000 (each). These are per year. Once we pay $10,200 (annual premium + annual copay) of the first $10,000 the insurance kicks in and will pay what is left. As a result I have decided to go without insurance. I'd be happy to pay $500 a month for a normal HMO policy. (well not completely happy, I think $500 a month is too high). Short of building a business that has employees and qualifies for group health insurance, what can I do? Thank you for your insight! ---- Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- (503) 754-4452 Android (623) 239-3392 Skype (623) 688-3392 Google Voice ** it-clowns.com -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- (503) 754-4452 Android (623) 239-3392 Skype (623) 688-3392 Google Voice ** it-clowns.com -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Health Insurance
Thanks! I wonder if that is a leader price. They get you in and then bump it once underwriting evaluate the insured. Blue Cross just quoted $500 a month, $3000 deductible, 40% of first $10,000. That is $6000 per year in premiums, and a $7000 max deductible per person per year. Keith Smith --- On Thu, 3/15/12, Lisa Kachold wrote: From: Lisa Kachold Subject: Re: OT: Health Insurance To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Thursday, March 15, 2012, 8:33 AM Hi Keith, Check out this search link with an at a glance quote comparison (using 55 years old for both husband and wife), starting at $187.50 a month. In my experience your quote was OUTRAGEOUS (shop around)! On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:02 AM, keith smith wrote: Hi, I am self employed, a little older, over weight, with a history of high blood pressure. I do not have health insurance and would like to be able to find a reasonable health insurance plan. Recently I received several quotes. $600 a month, $6000 deductible for me and $6000 deductible my wife. And we must pay 30% of the first $10,000 (each). These are per year. Once we pay $10,200 (annual premium + annual copay) of the first $10,000 the insurance kicks in and will pay what is left. As a result I have decided to go without insurance. I'd be happy to pay $500 a month for a normal HMO policy. (well not completely happy, I think $500 a month is too high). Short of building a business that has employees and qualifies for group health insurance, what can I do? Thank you for your insight! -------- Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- (503) 754-4452 Android (623) 239-3392 Skype (623) 688-3392 Google Voice ** it-clowns.com -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
OT: Health Insurance
Hi, I am self employed, a little older, over weight, with a history of high blood pressure. I do not have health insurance and would like to be able to find a reasonable health insurance plan. Recently I received several quotes. $600 a month, $6000 deductible for me and $6000 deductible my wife. And we must pay 30% of the first $10,000 (each). These are per year. Once we pay $10,200 (annual premium + annual copay) of the first $10,000 the insurance kicks in and will pay what is left. As a result I have decided to go without insurance. I'd be happy to pay $500 a month for a normal HMO policy. (well not completely happy, I think $500 a month is too high). Short of building a business that has employees and qualifies for group health insurance, what can I do? Thank you for your insight! ---- Keith Smith--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
How Yahoo Weaponized My Work - Software Patents
http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2012/03/opinion-baio-yahoo-patent-lie/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wired%2Findex+%28Wired%3A+Index+3+%28Top+Stories+2%29%29 ---- Keith Smith--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: GIT and Github - howto.
More like an old dude trying to learn a new trick. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and guiding me down the right path. It is much appreciated. Keith Smith --- On Wed, 3/7/12, Matt Graham wrote: From: Matt Graham Subject: Re: GIT and Github - howto. To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 5:43 PM From: keith smith > Thanks James. What is everyone else doing[?] I'm sure others have > had the problem of needing to "check out" code so others cannot > modify the file. Lock->modify->check in->unlock is the old way, dude. You can *do* that using SVN, but you're discouraged from doing so repeatedly in the documentation. Apparently, now you're supposed to grab everything, modify things, then merge, handling conflicts/breakage via your brain. This makes it easier to modify parts of a huge project. (It can create problems for small projects with few developers, but who cares about those projects, anyway?) Note that these problems were also present in older things like CVS, but CVS is very infra dig now because it's so annoying to move/rename things in CVS. If you *need* exclusive locking, git is the wrong source-code versioning system to use. But as Alan said, you probably don't need exclusive locking as much as you think. -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: GIT and Github - howto.
Thanks Alan, 1. Developers are not communicating enough. - I was hoping to reduce the need to verify each time I need a file or a group of files. This can be rather time consuming especially when we work when we want and may have a last minute task to fix or modify something that takes minutes. 2. The source file organization needs improvement (files too big, unlike functions/methods in the same file, etc.) - There is a little of this going on. Sometimes you get what you get and you do not have the luxury to rewrite massive amounts of code. 3. The architecture of the product, and therefore the code, is suboptimal. - From my experience, especially in the PHP world this is the nature of almost all the code I have seen. In the end it looks like we will just have to communicate more. 17 years ago I worked with a company that used Visual Source Safe. There was 4 of us and a lead. On a number of occasions it it saved us from stepping on someone else's modifications. I'm not sure how you can track the work of 4 people working all day on small modifications to an existing system without spending a lot of time coordinating. ---- Keith Smith --- On Wed, 3/7/12, Alan Dayley wrote: From: Alan Dayley Subject: Re: GIT and Github - howto. To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 5:31 PM The need for source file locking is often an indicator of a problem. Three likely ones: 1. Developers are not communicating enough.2. The source file organization needs improvement (files too big, unlike functions/methods in the same file, etc.) 3. The architecture of the product, and therefore the code, is suboptimal. Fix the reason file locking is needed instead of diminishing the ability to get work done. Alan On Mar 7, 2012, at 5:22 PM, keith smith wrote: Thanks James. What is everyone else doing. I'm sure others have had the problem of needing to "check out" code so others cannot modify the file. ---- Keith Smith --- On Wed, 3/7/12, James Mcphee wrote: From: James Mcphee Subject: Re: GIT and Github - howto. To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 4:51 PM Git doesn't really allow file locking. You'd have to have some good communication to prevent working on the same file. Or... You can use the merge process. If the other person updates a file, pushes to the repo, and you try to pull it in after you've updated same file, you will be told you need to merge. That can get messy, but git has no built-in way to lock a file. On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:36 PM, keith smith wrote: Hi, I have GIT installed on my server and I have Github. I understand the versioning part. The concept I am having trouble grasping is how I can use it a collaboration tool. It is just me and another programmer. We both have a local dev environment. We work out of our homes and we live a fair distance apart - about a 1.5 hour drive. We have a server in a data center that contains both our test server and our production server. To this point we have worked on separate parts of this online app so we have not had any occasion to step on what they other guy is doing. The two of us will be taking on a project that will require us to work within the same code set. What we need to achieve is a way to checkout a PHP file work on it and then check it back in. While the file is checked no one else should be able to use it. I've been reading about GIT, however it is not clear if I can use it this way. Your guidance is much appreciated. Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- James McPhee jmc...@gmail.com -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: GIT and Github - howto.
Thanks James. What is everyone else doing. I'm sure others have had the problem of needing to "check out" code so others cannot modify the file. -------- Keith Smith --- On Wed, 3/7/12, James Mcphee wrote: From: James Mcphee Subject: Re: GIT and Github - howto. To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 4:51 PM Git doesn't really allow file locking. You'd have to have some good communication to prevent working on the same file. Or... You can use the merge process. If the other person updates a file, pushes to the repo, and you try to pull it in after you've updated same file, you will be told you need to merge. That can get messy, but git has no built-in way to lock a file. On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:36 PM, keith smith wrote: Hi, I have GIT installed on my server and I have Github. I understand the versioning part. The concept I am having trouble grasping is how I can use it a collaboration tool. It is just me and another programmer. We both have a local dev environment. We work out of our homes and we live a fair distance apart - about a 1.5 hour drive. We have a server in a data center that contains both our test server and our production server. To this point we have worked on separate parts of this online app so we have not had any occasion to step on what they other guy is doing. The two of us will be taking on a project that will require us to work within the same code set. What we need to achieve is a way to checkout a PHP file work on it and then check it back in. While the file is checked no one else should be able to use it. I've been reading about GIT, however it is not clear if I can use it this way. Your guidance is much appreciated. Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- James McPhee jmc...@gmail.com -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
GIT and Github - howto.
Hi, I have GIT installed on my server and I have Github. I understand the versioning part. The concept I am having trouble grasping is how I can use it a collaboration tool. It is just me and another programmer. We both have a local dev environment. We work out of our homes and we live a fair distance apart - about a 1.5 hour drive. We have a server in a data center that contains both our test server and our production server. To this point we have worked on separate parts of this online app so we have not had any occasion to step on what they other guy is doing. The two of us will be taking on a project that will require us to work within the same code set. What we need to achieve is a way to checkout a PHP file work on it and then check it back in. While the file is checked no one else should be able to use it. I've been reading about GIT, however it is not clear if I can use it this way. Your guidance is much appreciated. ---- Keith Smith--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Seeking a concise Linux installation checklist
I'm curious. What is your old reliable? I agree with bloat. Seems Linux just keeps on growing. I had not pondered this much, except recently when I replace a Fedora Core 2 server with CentOS 6. I ran the Fedora box for 5 years as a local LAMP dev box. I wonder if there is a "thin" Linux. Of course right out of the box. I have no time to optimize Linux or M$. I have to upgrade occasionally since I am building apps that run on a relatively recent release. I sometime think of the good old days when Linux fit on a handful of 1.44MB micro floppies. It now comes on a handful of CD's or a DVD. -------- Keith Smith --- On Tue, 3/6/12, j...@actionline.com wrote: From: j...@actionline.com Subject: Re: Seeking a concise Linux installation checklist To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Tuesday, March 6, 2012, 10:13 AM Eric Shubes wrote, in part: > ok to ... dual boot XP/Linux, running VBox on Linux > Then you introduced dual booting multiple linux distros along with XP. > Not a good idea in this day and age. > I think your objective should be to get to the point of having a single > linux boot, with VBox running whatever other OSs you want from there, > including XP. Forget about dual booting unless it's absolutely necessary > to get from here to there. [snipped] Thanks Eric. I certainly do always trust your counsel. Since I need to be unavailable much of the time until May, I'll have to come back to this later. But I just wanted to explain why I had proposed the multiple boot scenario. I really do detest xp and everything M$ and I rarely use it; however, since it is on the system and I have way more HD space than I need, I thought I might just leave it there and make the proposed triple boot to be able to access two different Linux installations for this reason: Every time I have ever "updated" a Linux distro, it has caused problems, and it seems to me that the newer Linux distros have become more bloatware and a whole lot less reliable than my "old reliable" system which I *never* update and which *never* fails to perform flawlessly (although it does have some obvious limitations). Therefore, I would like to install that "old reliable" system as one of two Linux options. In the second Linux installation, I hope to install VirtualBox with xp as a virtual option. But it is because I am apprehensive because of my universal and uniform past experience with newer distros that I would like to keep that "fall-back" option of "old reliable." Thus the triple-boot notion. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: fatherswithforeignbabies.us
There are people who still have dialup. I understand it is still a lot of people. They might not want to visit your website if it loads too slowly for them. Google "gimp optimize image for website" The second site listed is http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/optimize-images-web-gimp/ I did not read the page, however it appears to be on target. ---- Keith Smith --- On Mon, 3/5/12, Michael Havens wrote: From: Michael Havens Subject: Re: fatherswithforeignbabies.us To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Monday, March 5, 2012, 1:50 PM I hope this doesn't seem rude but why? I mean it is the proper size on the web page. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 1:30 PM, keith smith wrote: Hi Mike!! I was poking around your website and noticed your images have not be optimized for the Internet. For instance http://fatherswithforeignbabies.us/photos/saintthomas1.jpg . You'll want to make your images smaller in visual size and in file size. ---- Keith Smith -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: fatherswithforeignbabies.us
Hi Mike!! I was poking around your website and noticed your images have not be optimized for the Internet. For instance http://fatherswithforeignbabies.us/photos/saintthomas1.jpg . You'll want to make your images smaller in visual size and in file size. ---- Keith Smith --- On Mon, 3/5/12, Michael Havens wrote: From: Michael Havens Subject: fatherswithforeignbabies.us To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Monday, March 5, 2012, 12:40 PM I didn;t do anything and my website is listed on google! Yipee! True. I had to type the name in but I'm there. -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Rasperry Pi tomorrow night?
These look pretty cool. What are you using for power, data, and monitor ? Keith Smith --- On Thu, 3/1/12, Ted Gould wrote: From: Ted Gould Subject: Re: Rasperry Pi tomorrow night? To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Thursday, March 1, 2012, 7:41 AM On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 23:45 -0700, der.hans wrote: > Not definite, but it looks like the Raspberry Pi will be going on sale in > less than 24 hours. > > http://www.RaspberryPi.org/archives/716 > > That's tomorrow night our time. A pretty awesome launch. I didn't get one, but man, awesome to see that demand and I hope it'll drive other manufacturers into that space. --Ted -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT--HTML coding question
If your website is ranking and has any amount of inbound links you risk the
loss of ranking by changing the file name. If you should take this route then
a 301 redirect is in order.
Keith Smith
--- On Sun, 2/26/12, Phillip Waclawski wrote:
From: Phillip Waclawski
Subject: Re: OT--HTML coding question
To: "m jarvis" , "Main PLUG discussion list"
Date: Sunday, February 26, 2012, 10:42 PM
#yiv228569360 p {margin:0;}If your server supports php, just rename the file to
whatever.php and put this
Phil W.
From: "Mark Jarvis"
To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 10:33:27 PM
Subject: Re: OT--HTML coding question
Thanks! It sounds like a good solution. If this was a commercial
web site I'd probably do it. However this is something I'm doing
on a volunteer basis using donated space and I'm trying to keep
everything small and simple--especially simple.
Once again, thanks!
Mark
Matt Graham wrote:
From: Mark Jarvis
I have a web site with a large number of hand coded pages. I have a
block of code that needs to be inserted into each page. The problem is
that the block will change occasionally as new material is added.
Obviously, things would be much simpler if I could make the change in
one place and have each page attach/include/link to/etc. a file
containing that piece of code. If there is an HTML construct that allows
that, I haven't found it.
It's called "server-side includes", and it's relatively standard if you're
using Apache. You have to have the directory you want to have server-side
includes enabled in with a config stanza kind of like so:
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Includes
# note that Includes is the option you want to have enabled for this dir.
# that's the docroot of my webhost; modify for your setup
# make sure to restart apache if you change the config file
Once this has been done, all you have to do is to put a construct like so into
foobar.html:
...this tells apache that when it's reading foobar.html, it should read the
file /var/www/localhost/htdocs/incs/nav.html and insert that file's contents
into foobar.html at that point, before sending stuff to the client.[0] This
is *really* useful. At work, we basically depend on apache SSI to do 5 tons
of stuff, since many pages use the same stuff across the whole site for
navigation/menu bars/whatever.
If this didn't make any sense, holler.
[0] It can get a bit more complex than that, what with RewriteRules and other
stuff, but that'll get you started.
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Re: CodeIgnigniter Config Question
That did the job!! Thanks : $route['(:any)'] = "main"; My Approach is very simple. There is three types of data. 1) Home page, 2) category pages, and 3) content pages. So all I need to do is read the URL and determine which it is and pull that content and populate the template. I will probably add one more layer of functionality. That would be to check if there is a template specifically for that particular content. Pretty simple approach. Thank you for your help!! -------- Keith Smith --- On Sun, 2/19/12, Eric Cope wrote: From: Eric Cope Subject: Re: CodeIgnigniter Config Question To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Sunday, February 19, 2012, 11:19 PM Hey Keith, You can address this multiple ways. One way is mod_rewrite. Obviously this is outside of CodeIgniter. Another way is to define custom Routes (http://codeigniter.com/user_guide/general/routing.html). I personally recommend against one monolithic controller. I've found that if your controller is more than about a page of code, its failing DRY principles, difficult to refactor, difficult to test, etc. This is not always the case, but a decent generalization. Then again, if you can leverage models, libraries, and views, and still only have about a page of controller code, then go for it. Eric On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 9:58 PM, keith smith wrote: Hi, I'm looking at CodeIgniter. I would like to change the way it works a little bit. URL's will take on this pattern: MyDomain.tld = is the index MyDomain.tld/page-name (stand alone page) MyDomain.tld/cat1/catn (one or more categories) (display the last category) MyDomain.tld/cat1/catn/article-page (one or more categories then an article page) (display article) I would like to read the URL in a main controller. There would only be one controller. I would break the URL into its arguments and decide what Model and View to load and display. Is it possible to configure CodeIgniter to function this way? Thanks in advance! Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
CodeIgnigniter Config Question
Hi, I'm looking at CodeIgniter. I would like to change the way it works a little bit. URL's will take on this pattern: MyDomain.tld = is the index MyDomain.tld/page-name (stand alone page) MyDomain.tld/cat1/catn (one or more categories) (display the last category) MyDomain.tld/cat1/catn/article-page (one or more categories then an article page) (display article) I would like to read the URL in a main controller. There would only be one controller. I would break the URL into its arguments and decide what Model and View to load and display. Is it possible to configure CodeIgniter to function this way? Thanks in advance! ---- Keith Smith--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: I need opinions.
Look for free WordPress templates. There are thousands for free. I would suggest taking some time and look at your options. If your site takes off and you build it wrong, you will pay later. Do some research. Install WordPress and look at the free templates. This is not a decision you can make in a couple hours. Keith Smith --- On Wed, 2/15/12, Michael Havens wrote: From: Michael Havens Subject: Re: I need opinions. To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Wednesday, February 15, 2012, 6:12 PM wordpress won't work (I don't think) does anyone know of a forum template for kompozer that doesn't cost anything? Believe me. if I had any money I would be happy to pay for things but I don't have any money. The last 4 bucks in my checking account went to go daddy to pay for a domain that I can hopefully make some money with :) (onlineworkfinder.us) This is the page I'm going to put my ad on. I was thinking that making it real simple without all the hoopla that the scam sites usually have would be the best idea. -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: I need opinions.
WordPress is a Content Management System (CMS). Written in PHP and runs just right on a LAMP server. Your host may provide an auto install script called Fantastico that will aid you in installing WordPress. WordPress is used for what you are trying to do. A forum would be a separate piece of software. Keith Smith --- On Wed, 2/15/12, Michael Havens wrote: From: Michael Havens Subject: Re: I need opinions. To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Wednesday, February 15, 2012, 5:50 PM i always thought wordpress was a windows thing. Will it create the fourum like what I want with my website (fatherswithforeignbabies.us)? On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:19 PM, keith smith wrote: Hi Mike, You may be onto something. My suggestion is to use a blog like WordPress. Lots of plugins and lots less programming. You will tire at some point dealing with static pages. WordPress was made for what you are trying to do. Or a forum might be good. I'd look at WordPress. Not WprdPress.com. Host your own on your domain. -------- Keith Smith --- On Wed, 2/15/12, Michael Havens wrote: From: Michael Havens Subject: I need opinions. To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Wednesday, February 15, 2012, 4:48 PM I created a webpage and I need opinions of the advertisement I'm putting on it. Could you please proof read it and tell me if it would turn you off or on or indifferant? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -begin ad--- Mike here, You know, I wanted to find a work-from-home job so badly that I followed many leads and I got scammed many times. Good news though! I finally found a web page that really does give work-from-home job opportunities. These jobs range from computer programmers to cartoon artists; from telephone interviewers to social workers; from proofreaders to typists. A great number of other opportunities are also at this site just awaiting an applicant. I feel as if I should just give the webpage to you but I also feel I've been scammed so often that I need to recoup some of my losses. So, simply pay $5.00 via paypal to havens.business<@>gmail<.>com and I'll send you the site. True, you could find it on your own; but I never did in the years of my search. I had to pay substantially more than the five I'm asking for... but what I did pay for is (in my opinion) unreasonable. I figure $5 is a fair price... not to much but perhaps too little. However, I know that if you are unemployed you are watching every penny so I definately don't want to hurt you. In fact, the site itself is free (at least it was when I used it) so there will be no further charges. If you don't have a paypal account you can sign up for it for free and then link it to a bank account or a credit card. So the excuse that you don't have a paypal account is a lame excuse. Have a good day ya-all! -end ad- http://fatherswithforeignbabies.us/work.html -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Expressionengine
Hi, A friend is building a website for his water well ministry. He is looking at possibly using Expressionengine. I had not heard of it until a couple of weeks ago. I was wondering if anyone else may have used it and if so their opinion. Thank you in advance! Keith Smith--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: I need opinions.
Hi Mike, You may be onto something. My suggestion is to use a blog like WordPress. Lots of plugins and lots less programming. You will tire at some point dealing with static pages. WordPress was made for what you are trying to do. Or a forum might be good. I'd look at WordPress. Not WprdPress.com. Host your own on your domain. ---- Keith Smith --- On Wed, 2/15/12, Michael Havens wrote: From: Michael Havens Subject: I need opinions. To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Wednesday, February 15, 2012, 4:48 PM I created a webpage and I need opinions of the advertisement I'm putting on it. Could you please proof read it and tell me if it would turn you off or on or indifferant? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -begin ad--- Mike here, You know, I wanted to find a work-from-home job so badly that I followed many leads and I got scammed many times. Good news though! I finally found a web page that really does give work-from-home job opportunities. These jobs range from computer programmers to cartoon artists; from telephone interviewers to social workers; from proofreaders to typists. A great number of other opportunities are also at this site just awaiting an applicant. I feel as if I should just give the webpage to you but I also feel I've been scammed so often that I need to recoup some of my losses. So, simply pay $5.00 via paypal to havens.business<@>gmail<.>com and I'll send you the site. True, you could find it on your own; but I never did in the years of my search. I had to pay substantially more than the five I'm asking for... but what I did pay for is (in my opinion) unreasonable. I figure $5 is a fair price... not to much but perhaps too little. However, I know that if you are unemployed you are watching every penny so I definately don't want to hurt you. In fact, the site itself is free (at least it was when I used it) so there will be no further charges. If you don't have a paypal account you can sign up for it for free and then link it to a bank account or a credit card. So the excuse that you don't have a paypal account is a lame excuse. Have a good day ya-all! -end ad- http://fatherswithforeignbabies.us/work.html -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: first website ever
Web 2.0 - social networking. Keith Smith --- On Sat, 2/4/12, Michael Havens wrote: From: Michael Havens Subject: first website ever To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Saturday, February 4, 2012, 11:46 PM Yee haaa! I've started my first ever website. I'm so excited!. Someone want to teach me how to get a target audience to it? My target audience is men who have children that live abroad. -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Linkedin API Project
Hi, I need to find a Linkedin API Programmer. A friend of mine is trying to take a person's name and company Name and use the API to find the person's profile. He pays well and pays quickly. He is also easy to work with. If you have experience with the Linkedin API please email me off list so I can get you in contact with my friend. Thanks! ---- Keith Smith--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: URL advertising
Facebook, Twitter, ... any web2.0 website. Keith Smith --- On Wed, 1/25/12, AZ RUNE wrote: From: AZ RUNE Subject: URL advertising To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 5:10 PM This is for a fund raiser at my kids school. They want to advertise www.redfuryinc.com /JazzNight = I am not an advertiser but my boss asked for help and I wondering what would be the best way to get this URL into the search engines to advertise this school project? Thanks, -- Brian Fields arizona.r...@gmail.com An amateur practices 'til they get it right, a professional practices 'til they can't get it wrong. - Anon. if it isn't armour, or you can't take it to bed, it isn't worth havin' -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: drupal or plone
Ok, I understand now. Thanks! Keith Smith --- On Wed, 1/25/12, Stephen wrote: From: Stephen Subject: Re: drupal or plone To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 7:43 AM Not the developers per se, I just have noticed in my meeting of people who like to code more of them like python over php. as far as how easy or difficult to work with that's more of an even 50/50 split of all the developers i have met. much like most any other IT professional... On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:48 PM, keith smith wrote: I apologize for branching, however, am I reading that you find PHP developers more difficult to work with than python developers? That would be an interesting observation. -------- Keith Smith --- On Tue, 1/24/12, Stephen wrote: From: Stephen Subject: Re: drupal or plone To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 2:57 PM The other aspect of things is there seems to be more python friendly folks out there and not as many php friendly, but that is only from my personal experience and may not be accurate outside of my own life. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Michael Havens wrote: > I was reading about Drupal on wikipedia. This is a small portion of what it > has to say: > > When compared to three other well-known open source CMS platforms > covered by the > MITRE CVE database, Drupal ranked second - after Plone but before > WordPress and Joomla.[76] > > So let's talk about Plone. Why was it ranked ahead of drupal? What is it > about? What is the difference between the two? For those of you who have > used both why do you prefer the platform you have chosen to go with? > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: drupal or plone
I apologize for branching, however, am I reading that you find PHP developers more difficult to work with than python developers? That would be an interesting observation. Keith Smith --- On Tue, 1/24/12, Stephen wrote: From: Stephen Subject: Re: drupal or plone To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 2:57 PM The other aspect of things is there seems to be more python friendly folks out there and not as many php friendly, but that is only from my personal experience and may not be accurate outside of my own life. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Michael Havens wrote: > I was reading about Drupal on wikipedia. This is a small portion of what it > has to say: > > When compared to three other well-known open source CMS platforms > covered by the > MITRE CVE database, Drupal ranked second - after Plone but before > WordPress and Joomla.[76] > > So let's talk about Plone. Why was it ranked ahead of drupal? What is it > about? What is the difference between the two? For those of you who have > used both why do you prefer the platform you have chosen to go with? > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: website hosting
I know little about Joomla. WordPress is good and widely used. It however is not as expandable in my opinion. Making Drupal templates is much more initiative than how WordPress does it. You can control how the output looked with Drupal, right down to the smallest subsection of your content. A couple things that might help, but not a complete list of advantages of Druapl. Themeing system, you can make a template for any content and any page. Take a look at the Drupal CCK. Take a look at Views. Look into blocks - a way of managing blocks of content. Drupal comes with a learning curve. If you have some PHP and MySql skills you probably could build anything you want with Drupal. Think framework as in PHPCake or Code Ignitor. If you are a consultant and become fluent in Drupal you might be able to charge upwards of $150 an hour and have more work than you can handle. (there is a marketing element that is necessary) Ok, A disclaimer - This is my paradigm. You will have to do your own do diligence to determine if Drupal is the tool for you. I'm hoping this thread might open a productive discussion on which CMS to use and why to use it. ---- Keith Smith --- On Mon, 1/23/12, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: From: kitepi...@kitepilot.com Subject: Re: website hosting To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Monday, January 23, 2012, 6:32 AM Why Drupal and not Wordpress? Or Joomla? I'm trying to make a decision myself... Thanks! :) ET keith smith writes: > > You might want to look into a CMS. I'd recommend Drupal because it is a > great framework and once you learn more programming you will be a ble to do > anything you want with it. > There is a steep learning curve, however I think it is worth it. > > Keith Smith > --- On Sun, 1/22/12, Michael Havens wrote: > From: Michael Havens > Subject: Re: website hosting > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" > Date: Sunday, January 22, 2012, 8:55 PM > My babies live in a foreign land and I want to start a website where fathers > in a similar situation can share with each other. I suppose it would be more > of a bulletin board. > On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Steven Ziskin-Bailey > wrote: > Full Disclosure: I work for GoDaddy.com, my opinions however are my own and I > am not speaking for GoDaddy.com or in an official respect for GoDaddy.com. > > Your question is a bit open ended, what do you plan on doing with said > website? Is it just a personal wordpress blog? Something serious? If it's > something serious I would look at the grid hosting packages... They're a > little bit more expensive, but you get a load balanced cluster serving your > page compared to a single server. (obviously if it's just a tinker about > personal site... you don't need the whole redundancy thing as our uptime is > pretty good by industry standards). > > With the grid and economy hosting you lost the whole website tonight > functionality. But if you know html, or are having someone else design it > for you -- that's not too big of a deal. > > If you can respond with more specifics as to what you're looking for... I'm > sure the list could help you out. > -Steven Bailey. > > On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Michael Havens wrote: > > Well, I'm going to to register my first domain and get hosting with godaddy > (unless you know of something better). Anyways, I don't know which hosting > plan to go with, web hosting economy or 5-page website builder. I'm thinking > webhosting economy but the description godaddy gives isn't very descriptive. > So I suppose I should ask you guys who know more about these things then me > what the pros and cons are of these different services. > > > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: > > -Inline Attachment Follows- > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailin
Re: website hosting
GoDaddy is the master of marketing. I host my main site with GoDaddy. I am very satisfied. The difference with GoDaddy and Hostgator from my point of view comes down to email disk space quotas. I had to add on a package that gives me more email space. I store 1/2 a Gig in emails on the GoDaddy servers. And I use their web mail. When I started hosting with GoDaddy 5 years ago, their email accounts were limited to 10MB. Now they are 100MB. They want you to buy the cheap hosting and add on other products until you are paying much more than the base price. The other area they used to get you to pay more was in the area of stats. I did not pay extra. I rely on Google Analytic. Hosting log stats can tell you a lot. I've chosen not to pay extra. When the day is done I am very happy that I get so much for so little. I like GoDadd's web mail the best of any hosting company's web mail. I also have a reseller account at HostGator. HostGator is cheap, simple and straightforward. As far as I know you can set your mail box quotas to any size you need. And I believe the stats provided by HostGator are better than the free stats that GoDaddy provides, however they may not be as good as the add on stats that Godaddy provides. Realistically, these hosting plans are for small hobbyist websites or for those stating out. The people on this list can get away with these cheep hosting plans because we know what to do in case of trouble. Most do not have our skills. I'd recommend going with either and then when you are more successful with your project move to a full blown server. -------- Keith Smith --- On Sun, 1/22/12, Michael Havens wrote: From: Michael Havens Subject: Re: website hosting To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Sunday, January 22, 2012, 9:19 PM hostgator? why do you prefer them? what about registering a domain name? if I do hosting with godaddy the domain registration is only 1.99. but they fail to sat what hosting costs after the year is up. On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 8:22 PM, JD Austin wrote: I second Hostgator On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 20:18, keith smith wrote: Go to HostGator. Better deal. GoDaddy is solid, however I like HostGator better. I host both places. ---- Keith Smith --- On Sun, 1/22/12, Bryan O'Neal wrote: From: Bryan O'Neal Subject: Re: website hosting To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Sunday, January 22, 2012, 8:06 PM I by domains mostly for the portable personal email address. As far as hosting I would go with the $6/mo plan and do the on click wordpress install. On 1/22/12, R P Herrold wrote: > On Sun, 22 Jan 2012, Michael Havens wrote: > >> Well, I'm going to to register my first domain and get >> hosting with godaddy (unless you know of something better). >> Anyways, I don't know which hosting plan to go with, web >> hosting economy or 5-page website builder. > > It rather depends on WHY you feel the need for a domain, and > one assumes (b/c of the mention of hosting, and the subject > line) website > > blog sites are free with a google account at blogspot.com. > email handling in a custom domain is free for up to ten users > with google apps (down a rather had to find link). mimimal > websites are free thru google sites, as well. domain > registrations are $10 a year at google apps [they hand off the > registration to emon or go-daddy, which is a hard price to > get under for a low volume domain registrant > > But all this is self support and has no learning opportunity; > if you want to have a live person at the other end of the > phone to ask questions of, you may want more > > Not enough info to really frame a good answer > > -- Russ herrold > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Sent from my mobile device --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --
Re: website hosting
You might want to look into a CMS. I'd recommend Drupal because it is a great framework and once you learn more programming you will be a ble to do anything you want with it. There is a steep learning curve, however I think it is worth it. ---- Keith Smith --- On Sun, 1/22/12, Michael Havens wrote: From: Michael Havens Subject: Re: website hosting To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Sunday, January 22, 2012, 8:55 PM My babies live in a foreign land and I want to start a website where fathers in a similar situation can share with each other. I suppose it would be more of a bulletin board. On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Steven Ziskin-Bailey wrote: Full Disclosure: I work for GoDaddy.com, my opinions however are my own and I am not speaking for GoDaddy.com or in an official respect for GoDaddy.com. Your question is a bit open ended, what do you plan on doing with said website? Is it just a personal wordpress blog? Something serious? If it's something serious I would look at the grid hosting packages... They're a little bit more expensive, but you get a load balanced cluster serving your page compared to a single server. (obviously if it's just a tinker about personal site... you don't need the whole redundancy thing as our uptime is pretty good by industry standards). With the grid and economy hosting you lost the whole website tonight functionality. But if you know html, or are having someone else design it for you -- that's not too big of a deal. If you can respond with more specifics as to what you're looking for... I'm sure the list could help you out. -Steven Bailey. On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Michael Havens wrote: Well, I'm going to to register my first domain and get hosting with godaddy (unless you know of something better). Anyways, I don't know which hosting plan to go with, web hosting economy or 5-page website builder. I'm thinking webhosting economy but the description godaddy gives isn't very descriptive. So I suppose I should ask you guys who know more about these things then me what the pros and cons are of these different services. -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: website hosting
GoDaddy : http://www.godaddy.com/hosting/web-hosting.aspx?ci=9009 Go wit the econ on Linux. HostGator http://www.hostgator.com/shared.shtml Go with Hatchling I like Host Gator better. Keith Smith --- On Sun, 1/22/12, Michael Havens wrote: From: Michael Havens Subject: website hosting To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Sunday, January 22, 2012, 7:11 PM Well, I'm going to to register my first domain and get hosting with godaddy (unless you know of something better). Anyways, I don't know which hosting plan to go with, web hosting economy or 5-page website builder. I'm thinking webhosting economy but the description godaddy gives isn't very descriptive. So I suppose I should ask you guys who know more about these things then me what the pros and cons are of these different services. -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: website hosting
Go to HostGator. Better deal. GoDaddy is solid, however I like HostGator better. I host both places. Keith Smith --- On Sun, 1/22/12, Bryan O'Neal wrote: From: Bryan O'Neal Subject: Re: website hosting To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Sunday, January 22, 2012, 8:06 PM I by domains mostly for the portable personal email address. As far as hosting I would go with the $6/mo plan and do the on click wordpress install. On 1/22/12, R P Herrold wrote: > On Sun, 22 Jan 2012, Michael Havens wrote: > >> Well, I'm going to to register my first domain and get >> hosting with godaddy (unless you know of something better). >> Anyways, I don't know which hosting plan to go with, web >> hosting economy or 5-page website builder. > > It rather depends on WHY you feel the need for a domain, and > one assumes (b/c of the mention of hosting, and the subject > line) website > > blog sites are free with a google account at blogspot.com. > email handling in a custom domain is free for up to ten users > with google apps (down a rather had to find link). mimimal > websites are free thru google sites, as well. domain > registrations are $10 a year at google apps [they hand off the > registration to emon or go-daddy, which is a hard price to > get under for a low volume domain registrant > > But all this is self support and has no learning opportunity; > if you want to have a live person at the other end of the > phone to ask questions of, you may want more > > Not enough info to really frame a good answer > > -- Russ herrold > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Sent from my mobile device --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Log Review Failed FTP Attempt
Ok, Thanks! Keith Smith --- On Thu, 1/19/12, Andrew Harris wrote: From: Andrew Harris Subject: Re: Log Review Failed FTP Attempt To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Thursday, January 19, 2012, 1:52 PM Well nevermind then. Just /var/log/secure. On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 2:50 PM, keith smith wrote: No Control panel only command line. Thanks! ---- Keith Smith --- On Thu, 1/19/12, Andrew Harris wrote: From: Andrew Harris Subject: Re: Log Review Failed FTP Attempt To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Thursday, January 19, 2012, 12:07 PM Also, is it cPanel by chance? Is cPHulk enabled? On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Andrew Harris wrote: Hey Keith I'm afraid your language is just a bit ambiguous -- SFTP, as in FTP over SSH, or FTP, as in ProFTPd or Pure-FTPd? If it's the former, then /var/log/secure will be the right place, but it'll show up as sshd. Here's what a failed login looks like on my CentOS VPS: Jan 19 13:04:04 sta sshd[12164]: pam_unix(sshd:auth): check pass; user unknownJan 19 13:04:04 sta sshd[12164]: pam_unix(sshd:auth): authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= rhost=cpe-66-68-110-19.austin.res.rr.com If it's actual FTP, I believe that will be in /var/log/messages or something, depending on how it's configured. On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:29 PM, keith smith wrote: Hi, I've setup Iptables so only certain IP addresses can access our shell. It works well for the handful of us that access the shell. We also run SFTP. So the IP for anyone needing FTP must be in the IP tables as well. Today, I'm trying to configure someone remotely. I added their IP address to the IPTables and helped them configure their FTP Client. They are not able to connect. It is unclear to me if it is a client or server issue. So I am looking at the logs. I'm running CentOS 5.6 and looking in /var/log/secure . I see no entry for the failed access attempt. Is there another log I should be looking in? Thank you for your help! Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Log Review Failed FTP Attempt
No Control panel only command line. Thanks! Keith Smith --- On Thu, 1/19/12, Andrew Harris wrote: From: Andrew Harris Subject: Re: Log Review Failed FTP Attempt To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Thursday, January 19, 2012, 12:07 PM Also, is it cPanel by chance? Is cPHulk enabled? On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Andrew Harris wrote: Hey Keith I'm afraid your language is just a bit ambiguous -- SFTP, as in FTP over SSH, or FTP, as in ProFTPd or Pure-FTPd? If it's the former, then /var/log/secure will be the right place, but it'll show up as sshd. Here's what a failed login looks like on my CentOS VPS: Jan 19 13:04:04 sta sshd[12164]: pam_unix(sshd:auth): check pass; user unknownJan 19 13:04:04 sta sshd[12164]: pam_unix(sshd:auth): authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= rhost=cpe-66-68-110-19.austin.res.rr.com If it's actual FTP, I believe that will be in /var/log/messages or something, depending on how it's configured. On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:29 PM, keith smith wrote: Hi, I've setup Iptables so only certain IP addresses can access our shell. It works well for the handful of us that access the shell. We also run SFTP. So the IP for anyone needing FTP must be in the IP tables as well. Today, I'm trying to configure someone remotely. I added their IP address to the IPTables and helped them configure their FTP Client. They are not able to connect. It is unclear to me if it is a client or server issue. So I am looking at the logs. I'm running CentOS 5.6 and looking in /var/log/secure . I see no entry for the failed access attempt. Is there another log I should be looking in? Thank you for your help! Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Log Review Failed FTP Attempt
Ok, Sorry, it is FTP over SSH. Thanks! Keith Smith --- On Thu, 1/19/12, Andrew Harris wrote: From: Andrew Harris Subject: Re: Log Review Failed FTP Attempt To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Thursday, January 19, 2012, 12:06 PM Hey Keith I'm afraid your language is just a bit ambiguous -- SFTP, as in FTP over SSH, or FTP, as in ProFTPd or Pure-FTPd? If it's the former, then /var/log/secure will be the right place, but it'll show up as sshd. Here's what a failed login looks like on my CentOS VPS: Jan 19 13:04:04 sta sshd[12164]: pam_unix(sshd:auth): check pass; user unknownJan 19 13:04:04 sta sshd[12164]: pam_unix(sshd:auth): authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= rhost=cpe-66-68-110-19.austin.res.rr.com If it's actual FTP, I believe that will be in /var/log/messages or something, depending on how it's configured. On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:29 PM, keith smith wrote: Hi, I've setup Iptables so only certain IP addresses can access our shell. It works well for the handful of us that access the shell. We also run SFTP. So the IP for anyone needing FTP must be in the IP tables as well. Today, I'm trying to configure someone remotely. I added their IP address to the IPTables and helped them configure their FTP Client. They are not able to connect. It is unclear to me if it is a client or server issue. So I am looking at the logs. I'm running CentOS 5.6 and looking in /var/log/secure . I see no entry for the failed access attempt. Is there another log I should be looking in? Thank you for your help! Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Log Review Failed FTP Attempt
Hi, I've setup Iptables so only certain IP addresses can access our shell. It works well for the handful of us that access the shell. We also run SFTP. So the IP for anyone needing FTP must be in the IP tables as well. Today, I'm trying to configure someone remotely. I added their IP address to the IPTables and helped them configure their FTP Client. They are not able to connect. It is unclear to me if it is a client or server issue. So I am looking at the logs. I'm running CentOS 5.6 and looking in /var/log/secure . I see no entry for the failed access attempt. Is there another log I should be looking in? Thank you for your help! -------- Keith Smith--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Where did the degree requirement come from for programmers?
Hi, I'm wondering if anyone knows where the degree requirement came from for developers. In the early 80's there were very few computer courses available. I talked with a guy in about 1988 who told me he was a math major because that was the closest thing to a computer science degree in the 70's and early 80's. I read that in the early 80's businesses were offering classes in programming. The example I read said the course was 6 weeks long. The graduates were give high paying jobs. The interesting part is I was attending college in the early 80's. At the UofA intro to computers was a FORTRAN programming class. Then a class in COBOL. It was mostly a business degree with an emphasis on programming. I'm curious if anyone knows why corporate America requires a degree to be a programmer. The degree does not open the door. Skills do. Do system administrators need degrees? As far as I'm concerned a degree in and of it self means nothing. I've worked with and know people who do not have a degree that can run circles around some with degrees. Just curious where that requirement came from. Keith Smith--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Scientific Linux
Hi, The data center where my client has several LAMP servers is suggesting we look at http://www.ScientificLinux.org/ for our next upgrade. We currently are using CentOS on one box and RHEL on another. Anyone using Scientific Linux ? If so your experience and recommendations? Thank you in advance for your feedback! Keith Smith--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: laptop vendors
Staples and Office Max have weekly specials on new laptops, well it seems Staples does. You can get a dual core / 4 gig RAM / 160 - 500 GB HD for under $400 if you watch for sales. And this is for new iron. Unless you are looking for something specific that is now longer manufactured, I'd recommend taking this route. ---- Keith Smith --- On Sat, 12/31/11, Robert Holtzman wrote: From: Robert Holtzman Subject: laptop vendors To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Saturday, December 31, 2011, 4:29 PM In the market for a refurbished/used laptop, Dell Latitude or Lenovo Thinkpad. Refurbs (factory) seem to be available only from the mfgr's web site. Hate to spend that kind of money sight unseen. Aside from Red Seven, who says they are out of stock, are there any *reliable* places in the greater Phx area dealing in this stuff? By reliable I mean that a lot of places outsource their refurbing or do it in house, sometimes with mixed results. Any suggestions/experiences? -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Merry Christmas to all
Only 365 shopping days until Christmas!! Keith Smith --- On Mon, 12/26/11, Lisa Kachold wrote: From: Lisa Kachold Subject: Re: Merry Christmas to all To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Monday, December 26, 2011, 9:05 AM Merry Christmas Mike (and Joe and Keith and Em, and Hans, and all those who make the PLUG possible...)! On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Michael Havens wrote: hey all you cool guys. Thanks for the well-wishes! Merry Christmas to you as well! (and to everyone else too)(or whatever you celebrate happy that too) On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 7:00 AM, keith smith wrote: Thank you Joe!! Merry Christmas to all!! And a prosperous New Year!! ---- Keith Smith --- On Sat, 12/24/11, j...@actionline.com wrote: From: j...@actionline.com Subject: Merry Christmas to all To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Saturday, December 24, 2011, 1:44 PM Merry Christmas to all my PLUG friends. - - - http://www.UpQuick.com/christmas - - - And may you all have a very Happy New Year! --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- (602) 791-8002 Android (623) 239-3392 Skype (623) 688-3392 Google Voice ** HomeSmartInternational.com -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
