Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
I'm unable to connect to Radio 4 and Radio 4 Extra live AAC streams all of a sudden. Connection times out. All other BBC streams seem OK though. Am using long wave for now. The plugin updated a few days ago (at least I think it was the BBC plugin, I've still not found a way to tell which plugin is being updated) MC -- ModelCitizen Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known Last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Wave Input plugin v1.00
I tried it again. It resulted in another BSOD and required another restore, but only this one said it was not able to complete the restore which means this restore may have destabilized my system. Unfortunately I don't think I'll be able to test that route anymore. I don't know if this will prevent me from diagnosing or using Wave Input. -- rrand rrand's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47295 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35718 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] WD MyBook Live NAS
I need help with the final step. How do you accomplish this: Now your Squeezebox Server should run on the WD MyBook Live and you should be able to access it from http*://mybooklive:9000 I don't know where to enter this address on my Squeezebox Duet. Thanks. -- sgh64 sgh64's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84735 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] WD MyBook Live NAS
Alright, looks like I am in over my head. I tried http:// instead of http*:// seems to have worked. -- sgh64 sgh64's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84735 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] WD MyBook Live NAS
I got through most of the instructions but appear to have gotten stuck. This is what I am getting: http*://downloads.slimdevices.com/SqueezeboxServer_v7.5.4/squeezeboxserver_7.5.4_all.deb: Unsupported scheme. MyBookLive:~# MyBookLive:~# wget http*://downloads.slimdevices.com/SqueezeboxServer_v7.5.4/squeezeboxserver_7.5.4_all.deb dpkg -i squeezeboxserver_7.5.4_all.deb http*://downloads.slimdevices.com/SqueezeboxServer_v7.5.4/squeezeboxserver_7.5.4_all.deb: Unsupported scheme. --2011-06-08 19:53:54-- http://dpkg/ Resolving dpkg... failed: Name or service not known. wget: unable to resolve host address `dpkg' squeezeboxserver_7.5.4_all.deb: No such file or directory No URLs found in squeezeboxserver_7.5.4_all.deb. MyBookLive:~# Can anyone help? -- sgh64 sgh64's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84735 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Wave Input plugin v1.00
Last night I thought I would give it another go and I tried connecting the laptop by wire again. I ended up screwing everything up so bad I got blue screen of death errors every time I logged in after about a minute of use. I tried going back to a restore point which failed which caused me to not be able to log into Windows at all. Today I downloaded a Windows 7 disk and did a system restore from there and now I'm back up again. I'm a little hesitant to try connecting by wire again on this computer. I had to reinstall SBS after the system restore so I installed 7.5.4. I don't know if, like you said, the router is dying or not. But it shouldn't be because it's brand new. -- rrand rrand's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47295 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35718 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Photo Gallery Plugin v1.0
I installed the photo gallery plugin and can use it on the web interface on my computer just fine, but I can't find the plugin anywhere on my duet controller (version 7.5.4). I see from previous posts it should be in the "Extras" menu, but I don't have an "Extras" menu. I've been through settings/home menu and there is no reference to "Extras" anywhere. -- brycejill brycejill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47402 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76879 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Wave Input plugin v1.00
PasTim;635474 Wrote: > Nothing I hear says why rrand experiences problems with wavin but not > other flacs. Network problems presumably apply in either case. AFAICT rrand's SBS is on a laptop wirelessly connected to router and the player was also connected using wireless. The wavin stream is an internet stream whereas playing other Flac was from the SBS disk. Playing an internet stream and using wavin to stream to player will make more use of the network than streaming Flacs file. My first instinct would be to test with another router as a "dying" router can be a source of errors. > I'm well aware no one believes me (except for me myself) PasTim, I know you have a real problem which could be investigated further (e.g. I have a version of socketwrapper which produces data throughput logs ) but I'm not optimistic a solution will be found and so it is better to use your time enjoying music. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35718 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Wave Input plugin v1.00
bpa;635473 Wrote: > rrand ran the SBS Network test where TCP packets are generated from > inside SBS with no music source. The test had errors even at low > speeds and the the level of errors seem to vary. Wavin was not > involved. > > There are so many variables with Windows that tracking the down the > problem PasTim experiences really depends on the user themselves > tediously changing one things at a time to find the critical element. I give up & give in. Nothing I hear says why rrand experiences problems with wavin but not other flacs. Network problems presumably apply in either case. If he has problems with wavin, there's an issue related to (but not necessarily caused by) wavin. It may be a general problem but there's got to be a reason why it manifests itself to the listener with one sort of traffic and not another. As far my wavin problem was concerned I could see the flac message being sent from the PC to the Touch (by looking at the Microsoft Network Monitor, and graphically using Task Manager, and by process activity). I could play a 30 second track. See the data go out. Wait for the Touch to play it, and see no more data being sent after the first batch. The Touch just didn't play them for tens of seconds up to 2 minutes (at one point I thought the data could be going out to the internet and back in, but I proved that wasn't true). I'm well aware no one believes me (except for me myself), but I repeated the experiment and I believe in the evidence. I just don't have a theory to explain it, nor to explain my solution. :-) Life is full of surprises. Just as well really. -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35718 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Wave Input plugin v1.00
PasTim;635468 Wrote: > I'll be interested to know the source of the sound rrand is using for > wavin. rrand ran the SBS Network test where TCP packets are generated from inside SBS with no music source. The test had errors even at low speeds and the the level of errors seem to vary. Wavin was not involved. Wavin depends on PC audio driver and the PC audio subsystem which can do weird things (e.g. resampling, add sound effects) depending on the audio hardware. The "wavin2cmd" application justs copies bytes from a Window PCM stream. The SBS transcoding uses the socketwrapper.exe and named pipes. Socketwrapper had to be rewritten because many security s/w app thinks "named pipes" are non safe and so they "examine" the bytes - sometimes holding onto bytes for a indeterminate periods. Some users have have adjusted (or 3rd part apps have done) the Windows TCP settings in the registry and this can also cause odd problems. There are so many variables with Windows that tracking the down the problem PasTim experiences really depends on the user themselves tediously changing one things at a time to find the critical element. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35718 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Wave Input plugin v1.00
MrC;635463 Wrote: > Less than perfect in Ethernet is unacceptable. A 1% or 2% packet loss > can cause catastrophic issues due to exponential back-off / retries. Not doubting your expertise, but I'd like to make sense of the reported problems with only one type of playback. Maybe when using wavin it's more "real-time", in which case a loss is more likely to create a problem than with a file on disk that can be read again if necessary. I'll be interested to know the source of the sound rrand is using for wavin. I used Microsoft Network Monitor to look at snapshots of network traffic, which showed me where some of my other problems lay. rrand might want to use that to look at the traffic in more detail. -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35718 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
AndrewFG;635458 Wrote: > Thanks. Go it. > > But no UUUs this time... A few later on. I suspect Us are just quiet sections. -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Wave Input plugin v1.00
PasTim;635451 Wrote: > > rrand may have a less than perfect network, but it isn't obvious to me > why it only affects wavin. No matter, if improving the network fixes > it, then fine. Less than perfect in Ethernet is unacceptable. A 1% or 2% packet loss can cause catastrophic issues due to exponential back-off / retries. Such problems would typically be experienced by users, for example, on web page loads that hang while other network traffic appears to be fine. Users will Stop the page load, hit refresh, and notice it loads w/out issue the next time. (btw. PasTim, I've written a number of high-performance NIC drivers for *nix systems, and understand how link partners negotiate.). -- MrC MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35718 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
PasTim;635241 Wrote: > Smaller file on its way - the first was too big and was rejected by your > email system.Thanks. Go it. PasTim;635241 Wrote: > I attach a log playing this track. You'll see it zipped through the 1st > track (without playing it) and started on the next one in the folder.But no > UUUs this time... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Wave Input plugin v1.00
bpa;635447 Wrote: > rrad has a basic network problem as the network test proved. It is not > related to wavin or anything else. > > If there are problem with Flac but not PCM - I think the problem would > be related to the transcoding process such as processor not powerful > enough (unlikely with modern x86 CPUs) more likely is something is > affecting in ter process comms (from wavin2cmd to Flac) using Pipe. You > could try set Wavin to use MP3 rather than Flac and I would expect to > see the same problem. I went through a range of checks on my PC (easily powerful enough - it ships out 24/96 PCM files with no problem), security software (including disabling it), using MP3, etc. The only thing that would make wavin work on my PC with my Touch was using PCM. I had, on occasion, 2 minute delays between the source and the Touch playing. The data seemed to go out to the Touch (according to the logs) but it didn't play for a long time. All I know for sure is that something very strange can happen with wavin. So I have a system that works, but have no idea of the cause of the original problem. This nags at my brain, but I try to ignore it as much as I can. rrand may have a less than perfect network, but it isn't obvious to me why it only affects wavin. No matter, if improving the network fixes it, then fine. -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35718 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Wave Input plugin v1.00
PasTim;635440 Wrote: > This is true for rrand as well me. (I managed to get myself into an > additional but separate set of problems by sending flacs from my > library in PCM format.) > rrad has a basic network problem as the network test proved. It is not related to wavin or anything else. If there are problem with Flac but not PCM - I think the problem would be related to the transcoding process such as processor not powerful enough (unlikely with modern x86 CPUs) more likely is something is affecting in ter process comms (from wavin2cmd to Flac) using Pipe. You could try set Wavin to use MP3 rather than Flac and I would expect to see the same problem. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35718 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Wave Input plugin v1.00
MrC;635431 Wrote: > PasTim, different NICs and drivers provide different settings for > allowing user's to configure NIC speed, duplex and auto-negotiation. > For example, mine does not have a separate setting, one each for a > speed/duplex setting with and without auto-negotiation. > > The more important point is to understand the link partner's > capabilities. > > The problem that was trying to be tested and excluded (if I recall > correctly in your case, and for some others) was that certain NICs and > their drivers did not reliably support gigabit Ethernet on Windows 7, > particularly x64, and thus must be downgraded speed-wise to 100mbit. > The nVidia 4 chip series was just such a platform, as are certain > Realtek chips. Other people had problems with TCP checksum > offloading. > > There were also some wireless connectivity issues with DLink's DIR655 > and DIR855 models and some of the Logitech music devices. The duet > would not maintain a connection to a DIR855 in the same room. > > So the suggestion to try was to a) remove wireless entirely, and b) > reduce the Ethernet connection rate as necessary. It is not clear > which tests have been performed yet, and which variables have been > eliminated. Agreed. However, it is important to know that such settings can (but may not) make matters worse, and if at all possible one should use a setting that includes autonegotiation. I believe (but can't prove) that on systems where there is no separate option, autonegotiation is included all the time. What is still very puzzling is why some systems have problems with wavin using flac transmission, but not playing other flacs. This is true for rrand as well me. (I managed to get myself into an additional but separate set of problems by sending flacs from my library in PCM format.) Could the wavin problem be related to some form of duplex handling issue - receiving over the internet and sending out to the Boom/Touch/whatever at the same time? rrand - what is your music source when using wavin? -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35718 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] foobar2000 formatting aka tagz for SBS
verdemar;635378 Wrote: > > I haven't really looked into customizing squeeze play, are the defined > title formats not used there? > I think they are used in the browse menus but they are not used on the Now Playing screen unless you have replaced the Now Playing screen with third party Custom Clock applet. verdemar;635378 Wrote: > > I am primarily concerned about what is displayed during playback, and > avoiding customizing my tags to the limitations in display size of the > squeeze box would be a nice improvement imo. > If you develop a new title format plugin for SBS, I think you should be able to use the Custom Clock applet on SqueezePlay and the Custom Clock Helper plugin in SBS to distribute the title formats to a custom Now Playing screen designed using Custom Clock. -- erland Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info)) (Developer of 'many plugins/applets' (http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland). If my answer helped you and you like to encourage future presence on this forum and/or third party plugin/applet development, 'donations are always appreciated' (http://erland.isaksson.info/donate)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88178 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Wave Input plugin v1.00
PasTim;635371 Wrote: > I wasted many, many, hours of my life testing with my wired NIC at 100 > Full Duplex. I strongly suggest that you do not use this setting, > unless you know that on your NIC and OS this setting also uses > Autonegotiation. On my NIC using XP this setting precludes > Autonegotiation, which is a no-no for almost all systems see > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonegotiation). There is a separate > setting called "Autoneg for 100FD" which works fine. "Autonegotiation" > on it own also works fine for me. > > However, this is all a bit irrelevant using a wireless connection. PasTim, different NICs and drivers provide different settings for allowing user's to configure NIC speed, duplex and auto-negotiation. For example, mine does not have a separate setting, one each for a speed/duplex setting with and without auto-negotiation. The more important point is to understand the link partner's capabilities. The problem that was trying to be tested and excluded (if I recall correctly in your case, and for some others) was that certain NICs and their drivers did not reliably support gigabit Ethernet on Windows 7, particularly x64, and thus must be downgraded speed-wise to 100mbit. The nVidia 4 chip series was just such a platform, as are certain Realtek chips. Other people had problems with TCP checksum offloading. There were also some wireless connectivity issues with DLink's DIR655 and DIR855 models and some of the Logitech music devices. The duet would not maintain a connection to a DIR855 in the same room. So the suggestion to try was to a) remove wireless entirely, and b) reduce the Ethernet connection rate as necessary. It is not clear which tests have been performed yet, and which variables have been eliminated. -- MrC MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35718 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Experimental version of WaveInput for Mac OS
I'm trying to work out a way to stream Rdio to my squeezebox, since neither Rdio nor Logitech seem to be motivated to do it for me. I'm pretty adept technically, and wouldn't be afraid to get my hands dirty. -- mwelch mwelch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47394 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87023 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] SwitchPlayer Problem
Hello, since a few days I'v the following problem. Anybody an idea ? Regards Markus [11-06-08 17:54:38.8238] main::init (349) Starting Squeezebox Server (v7.6.0, r32510, Wed Jun 8 02:39:10 PDT 2011) perl 5.008008 [11-06-08 17:56:11.9475] Slim::Utils::PluginManager::load (340) Warning: Couldn't call Plugins::SwitchPlayer::Plugin->initPlugin: Can't locate object method "client" via package "Plugins::SwitchPlayer::Plugin" at /var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/SwitchPlayer/Plugin.pm line 97. -- maggi68 maggi68's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88207 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
Do all buttons show up? -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Hot Spot Shield & Pandora
I use AceVPN in the UK, connected to US servers. Pandora runs fine. Connecting to AceVPN's UK servers will give you full BBC iPlayer access too. Hope that helps Marc -- nieldm nieldm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12305 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84120 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
oivindi;635394 Wrote: > iOS 5 is out for developers now. Just wondering if one of my favorite > apps is compatible. :) I fired it up on my iPad running iOS5 and it worked, didn't use it too much though. -- Jeff Flowerday Jeff Flowerday's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
iOS 5 is out for developers now. Just wondering if one of my favorite apps is compatible. :) -- oivindi oivindi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
As far as I know, iOS 5 won't be out until the fall. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 34,767 songs, 2,776 albums, 505 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
Erm ... anyone tried iPeng with iOS 5? -- oivindi oivindi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] foobar2000 formatting aka tagz for SBS
Thanks Erland, I already use those plugins, and they are great! The formatting strings of fb2k are very powerful, so they would open up lots of new possibilities. http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Foobar2000:Title_Formatting_Reference Some of the things I have in mind that I don't think are possible are things like formatting conditional on genre and/or path (to have different formatting for say, classical and pop music), changing case, replacing characters in combinations of several fields, for instance showing just the two last digits from a year instead of full date/year. Thanks for the advice about registering a new title format. I haven't really looked into customizing squeeze play, are the defined title formats not used there? I am primarily concerned about what is displayed during playback, and avoiding customizing my tags to the limitations in display size of the squeeze box would be a nice improvement imo. -- verdemar verdemar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4392 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88178 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins