Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2
A new minor point release version of Whitebear Media Server has been released today. http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver Improvements in this release: 1. Improved client compatibility 2. Improved user interface on Tray Monitor (e.g. added live check for updates) 3. Improved user interface on Browse Trees (e.g. added top level icons) 4. Bug fixes concerning browsing of music folders and app folders PS if you feel like making a donation, I added a link for that on the download page :-) -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90841 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2
A new version of Whitebear Media Server has been released. http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver Improvements in this version: 1. The browse tree is now the same as in Squeezebox Server. 2. There is improved client compatibilty with various clients (e.g. Humax, BubbleUpnP, 2Play, PlugPlayer, J.River, second instance of Squeezebox Server, xbmc, Sony TVs, etc.) 3. Transcoded files are now chached for faster replay, and track seek is now supported. 4. The support for the UPnP Search function has been extended. 5. The tray monitor provides more information and control. 6. And general stability improvements and bug fixes have been made. PS if you feel like making a donation, I added a link for that on the download page :-) -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90841 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Gblenn;658083 Wrote: weather it is possible, using Whitebear on top of SBS, to also be using iPeng as the controlling application. OR, is it so that I need to use some DLNA Control point in order to stream to a Networked Receiver with Whitebear??No, iPeng is a native only control point. I guess you receiver would have its own basic CP UI on the TV screen and/or its front panel. But if you want something fancier, you would need to use a third party application; Windows 7 provides Windows Media Player 7 which very good (and free). -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Andrew, I am contemplating buying a Yamaha AV Receiver (V2067) which would be quite a step up from my current old 2ch Amp. This receiver, as several others coming into the market, is capable of playing streamed audio including FLAC up to 24/192. I assume with an integrated DAC, newer than than the one in my Duet player I would perhaps hear some improvement, especially on some of the HiRes material I have. Regardless of weather I will actually hear any improvements or not, in order to hear anything I am of course in the need of a way to serve my music to the receiver... :) I have lately moved away from using the Controller and now rather use an iPad or Android tablet. Which of course gives some flexibility as to what application is used. However, I have become very fond of iPeng, wich especially on the iPad is quite an imrovement over the SB Controller. Now, my real question or thinking here is weather it is possible, using Whitebear on top of SBS, to also be using iPeng as the controlling application. OR, is it so that I need to use some DLNA Control point in order to stream to a Networked Receiver with Whitebear?? -- Gblenn Gblenn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22759 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
AndrewFG;651916 Wrote: The problem is that SBS only has 4 kinds of entity container (albums, artists, genres, years); and compilations do not exist as an own entity/container (probably rightly because there would only be one such); but thats the point of the bug/req! to create a fifth spot, homecomps. and this fifth spot would contain ONLY those things that SBS positively classified as a comp, either via explicit tags or scanner logic. the smart thing about the request, is that those things SBS would think are comps would STILL show up in the 'Home4 other entities' under whatever SBS used to file them, be it an artist tag, an AA tag, or the term used to denote comps if detected as a comp (artist mismatches). yet the display/query/filter of these items in these other areas would not care at all if something was or wasn't a comp, and that would improve performance and simplify the code. Phil can explain it better, but thats the meat of it. AndrewFG;651916 Wrote: the SBS solution is to mongrelize compililations as a kind of zombie artist -- which is undoubtedly an abomination. indeed. i can understand someone wanting to find all their comps in one place, like HomeComps but i will never understand someone wanting all their detected comps to then be assigned a single catchall term of Various Artists which is how SBS currently works! if you have more than a handful of comps, this method SUCKS! AndrewFG;651916 Wrote: But the only problem is that if you would de-mongrelize VA/compilations from being a zombie artist then you would have to re-mongrelize it as something else... -- If it is no longer a zombie artist, then it must become a zombie album, or a zombie genre, which frankly would be equally ghastly... i'm not sure i follow you here... SBS can understand that somthing is a comp by giving it a comp=1 tag, and it will over-ride an AA tag, but it will still USE the AA tag to sort whatever in a given SBS artist list, or albums list sorted by artist. so a homecomps location would be sorted via differing AA tags, yet still be known to SBS as comps. meanwhile, the comps would sort in the other 4 places by their AA tags, without regard to whether they are a comp or not. does that address what you meant? (to me, comp status really shouldn't be as big a deal to SBS as it is, its way too over-wrought in this area. it shouldn't check comp status for display except for homecomps, and it shouldn't make three DB entries for two tags, [artist and album artist], and it shouldn't force autodetection either) -- MrSinatra www.lion-radio.org using: sb2 droid (my home) / duet ipeng (parents' home) - sbs 7.5.5b - win7 ie9 xp pro sp3 - p4(ht) 3.2ghz, 2gig ram - 1tb wd usb2 raid1 - d-link dir-655 - 49k+ mp3/flac ::VOTE FOR 'BUG 15604' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15604)!!!:: MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
MrSinatra;652075 Wrote: thats the point of the bug/req! to create a fifth spot, homecomps. and this fifth spot would contain ONLY those things that SBS positively classified as a comp, either via explicit tags or scanner logic.I am looking at it from the point of view of the CLI and probably the database structure, whereas you are talking about the user interface... In the current model you can issue the following CLI requests, and they will respond with the respective list of all albums, artists, genres, years etc. But currently there is no CLI query that could cover any other kind container such as compilations. Code: albums 0 999 artists 0 999 genres 0 999 years 0 999 If someone could be persuaded to extend the CLI interface then they should probably add a containers command that would work as follows: Code: containers 0 999 ...returns the following response containers 0 999 id=1234 title=Compilations count=1 Such a containers command would be open ended and allow construction of other kinds of containers than Compilations. However in the first instance the containers 0 999 request would only return one such container having the title Compilations. With such a CLI request added, you could then step down the browse tree using the existing standard CLI request filtering logic: Code: containers 0 999 == returns the following response containers 0 999 id=1234 title=Compilations count=1 ...then... albums 0 999 container_id:1234 == returns all ALBUMS in Compilations ...or... artists 0 999 container_id:1234 == returns all ARTISTS in Compilations ...or... tracks 0 999 container_id:1234 == returns all TRACKS in Compilations etc. I think such an extension would address the underlying database and CLI changes that would be needed to support what you are asking to see in the UI. However, the above proposal is (IMHO) not the same proposal as your bugs. As I said before your bugs are asking for a UI change, whereas I am talking about a database architecture and query structure extension... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
However, the above proposal is (IMHO) not the same proposal as your bugs. As I said before your bugs are asking for a UI change, whereas I am talking about a database architecture and query structure extension... My proposal was to update the UI to have a Compilations browse mode. Adding CLI support to get compilations would be a bonus. However, compilation albums would still be listed somewhere within the artsits and albums view, under whatever album artist that album has. If no album artist tag is specified, Various Artists would be used, so they would all still be available in the same way as they are now, except there wouldn't be a Various Artists special entry at the top of the artists, just a normal list of artists. So if there's no CLI support for browsing compilations, and no specific way to see the compilation list within Whitebear, it's not the end of the world - the albums could still be found in the same way. ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Philip Meyer;652202 Wrote: So if there's no CLI support for browsing compilations, and no specific way to see the compilation list within Whitebear, it's not the end of the world - the albums could still be found in the same way.Look don't get me wrong. I am NOT asking for this. Whitebear does not need it. However MrSinatra is being so vehement about him needing it, that I am simply proposing a properly architected data structure and query backend that would give him what he wants. (Of course if you want to just kludge the UI, then that is fine with me, since the Bear does not use the UI anyhow...) -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
i think Phil was just trying to explain things better than i did, which i am grateful for. for my part, i am just trying to explain to you that i think your original assessment was correct, there is a bug in SBS, b/c what you originally tried to do SHOULD have worked. it didn't b/c of bug 9523, and just b/c you found a suitable workaround, doesn't mean you were wrong in your original assessment... and given that, i think both Phil and I and others are hoping to get your vote for bug 15604, which would resolve 9523 and have other benefits as well, including making your original approach / query via CLI successful. -- MrSinatra www.lion-radio.org using: sb2 droid (my home) / duet ipeng (parents' home) - sbs 7.5.5b - win7 ie9 xp pro sp3 - p4(ht) 3.2ghz, 2gig ram - 1tb wd usb2 raid1 - d-link dir-655 - 49k+ mp3/flac ::VOTE FOR 'BUG 15604' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15604)!!!:: MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Look don't get me wrong. I am NOT asking for this. Whitebear does not need it. However MrSinatra is being so vehement about him needing it, that I am simply proposing a properly architected data structure and query backend that would give him what he wants. (Of course if you want to just kludge the UI, then that is fine with me, since the Bear does not use the UI anyhow...) Just to be clear, I wasn't asking you to ask for it either! The enhancement request has been in the system for a few years now; it's never likely to happen anyway. The DB already models compilation albums; the Web UI, various player UI's and CLI are just views of that data model. I was less concerned about providing CLI support; I just see it as an extra way of browsing content in the library - one which I have already achieved for myself using Custom Browse plugin. I don't see the proposal as a UI kludge. Moreover, the current UI is a kludge, with all compilation albums appearing under Various Artists, even when the album artist is not Various Artists. e.g. usually you'd expect to navigate into an artist, view an album, and see that the album artist (or at least one of the album artists if there's multiple) matches the artist you chose to view. This is not necessarily true for Various Artists, where I can view Artists Various Artists Biosystems - The Biosphere Remixes, and the album artist will be reported as Biosphere, not Various Artists. I can browse Artists Biosphere The Biosphere Remixes to navigate to the album. I do have other compilation albums that do belong under an album artist called Various Artists, and they would still be viewable under that artist - all albums would still be visible under the album artist that they belong to. i.e. displaying compilation albums in their own list is less of a kludge than pretending that they belong to an artist that isn't even referenced on the album! Phil ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
MrSinatra;651153 Wrote: if 15604 were implemented, comps would show up in a new proposed homecomps, AND in existing home all the other stuff ...but what would be different is that under homeartists or homealbums, etc, comps would be listed only under their album.contributor value (or something like that) and without regard to whether they were actually comps or not.The problem is that SBS only has 4 kinds of entity container (albums, artists, genres, years); and compilations do not exist as an own entity/container (probably rightly because there would only be one such); the SBS solution is to mongrelize compililations as a kind of zombie artist -- which is undoubtedly an abomination. But the only problem is that if you would de-mongrelize VA/compilations from being a zombie artist then you would have to re-mongrelize it as something else... -- If it is no longer a zombie artist, then it must become a zombie album, or a zombie genre, which frankly would be equally ghastly... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
MrSinatra;650611 Wrote: i don't know much about CLI, but you see two Various Artists entries and they conflict with each other. this is b/c there are entries that are sourced by actual tags, and a category of the same name. in bug 15604, Phil is advocating pulling things SBS thinks are comps out of the artists and albums etc lists, and making them their own homecomps category, which i fully support.Point understood, and agreed. MrSinatra;650611 Wrote: i think that would make your CLI queries much more straight forward.Not really. The UPnP Content Directory is essentially just another remote representation of the SBS browsing tree (albeit delivered via UPnP+SOAP+XML rather than via Browser+HTML) = What You See (in the SBS UI) Is What You Get (in the Whitebear Content Directory). My mistake was in assuming that all artist titles would be separate unique texts, so I was counting the number of unique texts rather than the total number of entries in the browsing tree; once I adjusted the code to count entries rather than unque texts, I have no problem any more... MrSinatra;650611 Wrote: ... its only useful if a user knows the issue exists, and then knows thats a way around it. obviously, most users know neither.Fully agreed. My working assumption is that the user will NOT have implemented this... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
AndrewFG;651097 Wrote: Not really. The UPnP Content Directory is essentially just another remote representation of the SBS browsing tree (albeit delivered via UPnP+SOAP+XML rather than via Browser+HTML) = What You See (in the SBS UI) Is What You Get (in the Whitebear Content Directory). My mistake was in assuming that all artist titles would be separate unique texts, so I was counting the number of unique texts rather than the total number of entries in the browsing tree; once I adjusted the code to count entries rather than unque texts, I have no problem any more... i didn't realize you figured out a solution already. and again, i hope Phil pipes up b/c i know he understands this better than i do, BUT i think that if bug 15604 were implemented, you would then have been ok to just use unique texts. if 15604 were implemented, comps would show up in a new proposed homecomps, AND in existing home all the other stuff ...but what would be different is that under homeartists or homealbums, etc, comps would be listed only under their album.contributor value (or something like that) and without regard to whether they were actually comps or not. assuming i understand correctly, this is why i think you were originally right when you said it was a bug. as SBS is currently coded, it is not clever enough to handle the conflict between tag source and category, and in fact it has invented this conflict. you just came across bug 9523 via a different path, CLI, as opposed to how i found it, in the webui. -- MrSinatra www.lion-radio.org using: sb2 droid (my home) / duet ipeng (parents' home) - sbs 7.5.5b - win7 ie9 xp pro sp3 - p4(ht) 3.2ghz, 2gig ram - 1tb wd usb2 raid1 - d-link dir-655 - 49k+ mp3/flac ::VOTE FOR 'BUG 15604' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15604)!!!:: MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
MrSinatra;650433 Wrote: Andrew and everyone else reading this thread, PLEASE vote for these bugs!Hi MrSinatra, I looked at all your three bugs reports, and whilst I can confirm that the all relate to Various Artists in the broadest way I have to say that they do not specifically relate to the issue I mentioned. Therefore since I have not actually encountered the specific issues you refer to, I did not feel qualified to vote for them. Also insofar as the latest versions of SBS do allow you to customise the name of Various Artists to any other text, I have the impression that at least one of the bugs may have been quietly resolved (or??) -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
AndrewFG;650595 Wrote: Hi MrSinatra, I looked at all your three bugs reports, and whilst I can confirm that the all relate to Various Artists in the broadest way I have to say that they do not specifically relate to the issue I mentioned. Therefore since I have not actually encountered the specific issues you refer to, I did not feel qualified to vote for them. Also insofar as the latest versions of SBS do allow you to customise the name of Various Artists to any other text, I have the impression that at least one of the bugs may have been quietly resolved (or??) hi Andrew. i'd appreciate the votes anyway, if you'd be so kind, i think you can trust that the code simplification is a worthy goal. but in any case, and Phil can definitely speak more expertly to this than i can, but i think it does affect you more than you know, or so i am assuming... i don't know much about CLI, but you see two Various Artists entries and they conflict with each other. this is b/c there are entries that are sourced by actual tags, and a category of the same name. in bug 15604, Phil is advocating pulling things SBS thinks are comps out of the artists and albums etc lists, and making them their own homecomps category, which i fully support. this means that things in tag/category name conflict will no longer conflict, and comp checks won't be necessary for display or query anywhere but the homecomps location. i think that would make your CLI queries much more straight forward. again, i hope Phil will speak to it, as he has a greater understanding of what exactly is happening under the hood than i do. as to the workaround, thats all the workaround is. that option has been in SBS for as long as i can remember, and its not a fix, just a workaround. i can't claim finding it, i think jeff flowerday did but i don't recall. but its only useful if a user knows the issue exists, and then knows thats a way around it. obviously, most users know neither. -- MrSinatra www.lion-radio.org using: sb2 droid (my home) / duet ipeng (parents' home) - sbs 7.5.5b - win7 xp pro sp3 ie9 - p4(ht) 3.2ghz, 2gig ram - 1tb wd usb2 raid1 - d-link dir-655 - 49k+ mp3/flac ::VOTE FOR 'BUG 15604' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15604)!!!:: MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Andrew and everyone else reading this thread, PLEASE vote for these bugs! http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15604 http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9523 http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17081 that is how you apply pressure to the devs to get the damn things fixed! -- MrSinatra www.lion-radio.org using: sb2 droid (my home) / duet ipeng (parents' home) - sbs 7.5.5b - win7 xp pro sp3 ie9 - p4(ht) 3.2ghz, 2gig ram - 1tb wd usb2 raid1 - d-link dir-655 - 49k+ mp3/flac ::VOTE FOR 'BUG 15604' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15604)!!!:: MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Philip Meyer;649924 Wrote: I think searching for artists matching empty string, will return all artists, but without the initial Various Artists entry. i.e. artists 0 1 search: I tried this with the following results: artists 0 1 = returns Various Artists and all tagged artist names, but NOT the names of Composers etc. artists 0 1 search: = does NOT return Various Artists, but does return and all tagged artist names, plus also the names of all Composers etc. Interesting... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Ap15e;649582 Wrote: Albums *Artists Genres *Years Play lists Favorites Folders Items marked with * don't work. Error messages: Can't read the media directory on ... Invalid device response with: Connection to ...:31416 refused or List index out of bounds (261). (UPnP Error U0501). I had some offline discussions with Ap15e and with his kind help we discovered that the problem is because when Whitbear issues a query to Squeezebox Server CLI with artists 0 300 the latter returns the entry id%3A3123 artist%3AVarious%20Artists two times in its response. In the case of Ap15e he has 262 artist entries in his artist database so Whitebear thinks it must pass on 262 items to the Android UPnP control point. But since Various Artists is a duplicate, the second copy gets eliminated, and so there are finally only 261 items in the list. This explains why Ap15e sees the error when Whitebear trips over the no longer existent index 261 entry... It is a mystery to me why the Squeezebox Server CLI makes a duplicate of Various Artists. Perhaps it is because Ap15e has an actual artist called Various Artists, and he also has compilation albums that Squeezebox Server names as by Various Artists, and therefore perhaps Squeezebox Server is not clever enough to know that these two are in fact the same name ??? = This is clearly a bug in Squeezebox Server. However, now that I know about it, I can modify Whitebear to work around this problem. I am guessing the problem with the years folder is due to a similar duplication. (Perhaps this time between the explicit year 0 and the implicit no year = 0 ...) -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Various Artists strikes again! i can tell you there are ALL KINDS of stupid issues with SBS comp handling, and display. check out bug 9523 for starters, and vote for it. also bug 15604 as in my sig. also 17081. SBS does weird shit in handling VA stuff. it creates a special category which conflicts with the tag string and it does unnecessary comp status checks for display. i would bet all that is related to what you are talking about above. -- MrSinatra www.lion-radio.org using: sb2 droid (my home) / duet ipeng (parents' home) - sbs 7.5.5b - win7 xp pro sp3 ie9 - p4(ht) 3.2ghz, 2gig ram - 1tb wd usb2 raid1 - d-link dir-655 - 49k+ mp3/flac ::VOTE FOR 'BUG 15604' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15604)!!!:: MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
In the case of Ap15e he has 262 artist entries in his artist database so Whitebear thinks it must pass on 262 items to the Android UPnP control point. But since Various Artists is a duplicate, the second copy gets eliminated What is eliminating the duplicate artist name? I assume Whitebear is doing this - i.e. you fetch artist names from SBS using a CLI command, and then removing duplicates from the results: If you are using a CLI command such as: artists 0 1 It is a mystery to me why the Squeezebox Server CLI makes a duplicate of Various Artists. The CLI documentation states: All Squeezebox Server preferences apply to the CLI data. For examples, the preference about composers appearing in the artists list applies to the data returned by the artists query. You will get Various Artists appearing twice, as the CLI command returns what any player UI will see; normal artists and optionally other types of contributors, such as conductors, composers and band/orchestras. When browsing in any SBS user interface, Various Artists is put at the top of the artist list, plus it appears in it's normal position (sorted under artists beginning with V), so you get the same result in the CLI response. If you issue a CLI command to search for Various Artists, it only appears once in the results: artists 0 1 search:Various%20Artists I think searching for artists matching empty string, will return all artists, but without the initial Various Artists entry. i.e. artists 0 1 search: = This is clearly a bug in Squeezebox Server. I'm not sure it's clearly a bug. I think it's doing what it is supposed to do, according to an interpretation of the CLI documentation. That's not to say that I think it's particularly intelligent - putting Various Artists at the top of the list is really a UI presentation thing; and as suggested elsewhere, putting the list of compilation albums within the list of artists isn't nice UI design. I think there should be a Browse Compilations view for this, which would simplify a lot of UI's that need to do this interpretation. Phil ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Thank you very much for your great Whitebear Media Server. My setup: 40k FLAC files/2k albums on NAS, music directory mounted as local drive on Windows 2k, fed into SBS 7.6.0 - r31373 @ Mon Sep 27 02:09:12 PDT 2010 Whitebear Media Server 2.1.0.1673 Control point: Android 2.2 tablet with latest 2player Menu as presented by 2player: Albums *Artists Genres *Years Play lists Favorites Folders Items marked with * don't work. Error messages: Can't read the media directory on ... Invalid device response with: Connection to ...:31416 refused or List index out of bounds (261). (UPnP Error U0501). -- Ap15e Ap15e's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37948 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Ap15e;649582 Wrote: Items marked with * don't work. Error messages: Can't read the media directory on ... Invalid device response with: Connection to ...:31416 refused or List index out of bounds (261). (UPnP Error U0501). Edit: Same problem with Android smartphone running Android 2.3In the Whitebear tray icon application, please select the Debug Logging page, select logging on the HTTP Server, then please try to connect your Android device, and send me the respective log file. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
AndrewFG;648972 Wrote: I don't have a Revue, but if you want to send me a log from Whitebear of such a search session, I am willing to have a look and see if there is something I could fix. (On Whitebear's tray monitor, turn on the logging of the HTTP server...) Never mind, the issue was impatience on my part. I just needed to wait a few moments for the Revue to finish indexing he specific folder. After updating to today's SBS 7.6.1 build I connected the Revue via Whitebear and entered a search string in the keyboard that failed yesterday... time. At first nothing showed. I walked away to get a cup of coffee and when I returned the missing albums that I was expecting to see showed up. So, the lesson I learned here is that with large libraries you need to give the Revue a few moments to catch up. I attached a picture showing the time search string as it appears the lower right hand corner of the screen and the list of albums that came up. +---+ |Filename: WB4.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12271| +---+ -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
tamanaco;649201 Wrote: I just needed to wait a few moments for the Revue to finish indexing the specific folder. ... So, the lesson I learned here is that with large libraries you need to give the Revue a few moments to catch up.The UPnP Media Server ContentDirectory service defines two actions called Browse() and Search(). Many client applications ignore the Search action and instead use only the Browse action to download a local image of the remote content directory into a local database, and then they use their own search algoritms to find things within that local image database. From your description, it sounds like the Revue is doing just this... The benefit is that once the local image is built, the searches can be faster and more sophisticated. The disadvantage is that it takes time to build the local image in the first place. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
tamanaco;648778 Wrote: The one problem I ran across, so far, is that using the Revue keyboard Im not able to narrow down the search within a folders as I enter letters on the keyboard. It narrows the search for some tracks and folders, but for some reason not for others.I don't have a Revue, but if you want to send me a log from Whitebear of such a search session, I am willing to have a look and see if there is something I could fix. (On Whitebear's tray monitor, turn on the logging of the HTTP server...) -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
MrC;648086 Wrote: I suppose the SBS fix for this would have to wait for 7.7/LMS or beyond (the UPnP plug-in has been removed in 7.6).There are two different things: 1) The UPnP Client functionality. This has been in SBS for quite some time (although as we just found, the functionality is not great) and I doubt it would have been removed from 7.6. 2) The UPnP Server functionality. This is the new beta functionality that would eventually replace Whitebear. This is what was pulled from the 7.6 release. But don't worry, the Whitebear is still around (and getting better all the time), so he will fill the gap until such time as 7.7 comes (and perhaps even longer -- who knows...) -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
AndrewFG;648624 Wrote: But don't worry, the Whitebear is still around (and getting better all the time), so he will fill the gap until such time as 7.7 comes (and perhaps even longer -- who knows...) Right now Whitebear is filling more than a gap... is filling an abyss. Don't give up the good work. I have been unable to get the LMS 7.7 server with the UPnP plugin to connect even when using WMP from a laptop running Win7. Whitebear is the only UPnP server on SBS that's working for me. I've been trying to connect the Logitech Media Player (LMP) from my new $99 Revue to a LMS server, but it fails to connect. I decided to test my Revue using the Whitebear Media server and it works. I have been running Whitebear on my production SBS 7.6.x for a while and have been using it with WMP occasionally. As a matter of fact, it works very well with the Logitech Revue, but with a few glitches that might actually be related to the LMP. Im able to navigate my FLAC library folders using LMP and play tracks, albums and even playlists from the Revue. The one problem I ran across, so far, is that using the Revue keyboard Im not able to narrow down the search within a folders as I enter letters on the keyboard. It narrows the search for some tracks and folders, but for some reason not for others. I attached a couple pictures that shows the Revue connected to the Whitebear Media server showing some the folder navigation and the Now Playing screen. I know its bit of a waste to use a FLAC Library and SBS to play music using the Revue and TV, but this library is a media source that's already setup to stream. Im trying to setup a simple environment for my wife to play some music. She just cant deal with complexities of my SB3 setup. To simplify things I tried using the Revue with a USB attached drive that holds a copy of my music library in high rate MP3 format along with pictures and videos. But.. believe or not when I connect the USB drive to the Revue... LMP finds the music, but in the current release either the LMP or the Revue firmware does not support tags from media files in USB attached drives. Thats right it supports tags from media streamed remotely, but not from local sources. Ill continue play with LMS and to wait for updates to fix the connection problems that Im currently having. I understand that the priority in these forums is to discuss the issues of SBS/LMS as it relates to Squeezeboxes, but eventually other UPnP DLNA players will have to be given some attention. The installation screens of LMS 7.7 already show a Revue along with squeezeboxes. So it should be safe to say that, eventually, LMS will officially support the Revue. Maybe not with the current Revue Android 2.1 platform, but when the Honeycomb 3.1 firmware for the Revue is release. So, I'll be Whitebearing it until I can see better functionality from the USB attached drives or get better support from LMS. Again, thanks for developing and maintaining Whitebear. +---+ |Filename: WB3.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12264| +---+ -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
vortecjr;647911 Wrote: I'll try it!Just an update about what vortecjr and I discovered is going wrong: The UPnP media server (in this case Whitebear on the first machine) offers each track in several formats. And the UPnP client (in this case SBS on the second machine) should select whichever of the formats it can play best. Now Whitebear is offering PCM, MP3 and FLAC. And apparently SBS is choosing the PCM offer. This is a pretty stoopid choice since in fact it cannot play PCM!! It shoul have chosen either the FLAC or the MP3 offer... This is a bug in SBS that needs to be fixed in due course. (Either by supporting playing of PCM streams, or by not choosing PCM from the Content Directory's offers...) Fortunately I can quickly make a workaround in Whitebear to fix this. Expect it in the next Whitebear release in about ten days. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
I was thinking the chosen format was at issue. I suppose the SBS fix for this would have to wait for 7.7/LMS or beyond (the UPnP plug-in has been removed in 7.6). -- MrC MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
thanks again for your help. -- vortecjr vortecjr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30173 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
vortecjr;647634 Wrote: On my second machine that is running Squeeze Box Server I enabled it to see upnp services. Then when I go to My Music in Squeeze Box Server one of the options is Whitebear. Whitebear is running on the first machine and I can select it and browse files and play mps files.A-ha. That is a combination I never contemplated. Try running the current beta version of Whitebear on http://www.whitebear.ch/downloads/test.zip and let me know the outcome. (There will be a new official release in about ten days, so any feedback you can give will help improve that version). -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
I'll try it and keep you posted! Thanks -- vortecjr vortecjr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30173 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Also, I wonder if you can explain what you meant by the following: vortecjr;646751 Wrote: I can see Whitebear come up in SBS ... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
On my second machine that is running Squeeze Box Server I enabled it to see upnp services. Then when I go to My Music in Squeeze Box Server one of the options is Whitebear. Whitebear is running on the first machine and I can select it and browse files and play mps files. I can see and select flac files, but they do not play. If I select them they start and stop after 3/4 seconds, but no sound. The hardware is just one of the devices on the network that plays if I select the same files mp3 or flac loaded on the second unit. -- vortecjr vortecjr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30173 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
vortecjr;646751 Wrote: I can see Whitebear come up in SBS and I can browse the library. However, when I press to play something it trys to start and then stops and never produces any sound. Any tips on making it play?What software or hardware are you using to browse the library? And what software or hardware are you trying to play to? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
AndrewFG;647233 Wrote: What software or hardware are you using to browse the library? And what software or hardware are you trying to play to? vortecjr's reply over in this second thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89369 is: sorry I thought I had a typical setup. I have Squeeze Box Server on my pc along with Whitebear. I have a second PC with Squeeze Box Server in another location. On the second PC I can see Whitebear in the My Music section of Squeeze Box Server, I can browse the folder and play MP3s. I can't play flac files this way. BTW I can play local flac files on the second machine, but not ones from the Whitebear stream. -- MrC MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
I converted the files to mp3 and those play. So why would the flac originals not play? Thank you in advance -- vortecjr vortecjr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30173 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Hi Andrew Maybee you have a little focus to this posting with the Photo galery Plugin. Maybee it is possible to interconect whitebear with this Plugin? http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76879page=20 Thanks for some review in this. -- arztde arztde's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29528 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
I have downloaded Whitebear and installed it on my Vista machine along with SBS. The bear is white and everthing seems fine on the pc. I can see Whitebear come up in SBS and I can browse the library. However, when I press to play something it trys to start and then stops and never produces any sound. Any tips on making it play? -- vortecjr vortecjr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30173 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Two things come to mind: 1) do you have all the necessary transcoders? (see the Transcoders tab in Whitebear) 2) Does the renderer (playback device) support the format being played? Any more details you can share might help narrow the possibilities. -- MrC MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
In the transcoder section of Whitebear only Lame.exe is not found. These are flac flies in the library and SBS supports flac. -- vortecjr vortecjr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30173 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
vortecjr;646756 Wrote: In the transcoder section of Whitebear only Lame.exe is not found. These are flac flies in the library and SBS supports flac. What are you using to initiate playback? -- MrC MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
I'm in Squeezebox Server initiating playback on a different machine. I can see Whitebear and the libraries and the files, but about 4 seconds it stops and no sound. -- vortecjr vortecjr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30173 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
vortecjr;646763 Wrote: I found Lame.exe and that is in place now. I'm in Squeezebox Server initiating playback on a different machine. I can see Whitebear and the files in the library, but about 4 seconds in it stops and no sound at all. Look at the Setings tab. Select the settings for the renderer in question. You may have to adjust some settings there, such as not declaring multiple resources. I had the same issue, and AndrewFG created these adjustment settings to manage such specific problems. The correspondence was via email, and is not entirely captured in previous threads. -- MrC MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
I found those and have tried a few and it's still the same... -- vortecjr vortecjr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30173 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Wigster;644253 Wrote: Who knows, maybe the latest SBS update fixed something? I'll keep looking and send you a log if it breaks again.Ok. It works fine for me on the 7.6.0 release version (with no third party add-ins). I did not even bother testing any of the 7.6 betas. )lease keep me posted if you have any more issues. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Just so you know, I've just upgraded to the release 7.6 and I am still having the issues. AndrewFG;642935 Wrote: If you have a TTY client (such as PUTTY) you could try connecting to the CLI 127.0.0.1:9090 and see if it connects. Yes I have just tried this and it works ok. It connects and I can issue commands. AndrewFG;642935 Wrote: I suspect a misbehaving plug-in. Which ones are you using? I think quite a lot, let me list them: BBC iPlayer Album Review Biography Find Cover Art Lazy Search Music Information Screen Saying that what initially broke Whitebear was upgrading between two different betas of 7.6, then it got fixed with another one, then it got broken again and never fixed thereafter. Of course, it could have been a contemporaneous plugin update that I hadn't noticed. AndrewFG;642935 Wrote: This seems to indicate that the CLI playlist add or player play commands are what is failing, and crashing SBS. Which is odd, because such commands would not normally be hooked by plug-ins. What are you trying to play? Perhaps you can turn on Whitebear's logging for both HTTP Server and Squeezebox CLI, and send me the log file by PM? I will send the log in a moment. I should stress that most of the time the CLI hookup just doesn't work at all. It's only very rarely when I restart SBS that it appears and then it causes the crash whatever it is that I choose to play through WB. -- Wigster Wigster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14899 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
In typical Murphy's law fashion, I have just restarted the WB service and everything seems to work fine. Who knows, maybe the latest SBS update fixed something? I'll keep looking and send you a log if it breaks again. Just my luck. ;) -- Wigster Wigster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14899 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Wigster;642803 Wrote: I've never changed the CLI port, so I presume it is 9090If you have a TTYp client (such as PUTTY) you could try connecting to the CLI 127.0.0.1:9090 and see if it connects. Wigster;642803 Wrote: iPeng works on my iPhone ok, but I can't find what it is using as the port.To be honest, I don't even know if iPeng uses the CLI. I suspect it may not... Wigster;642803 Wrote: The really strange thing that has happened a couple of times is that when I start SBS, actually sees the CLI interface correctly. Then, when I try to play anything, SBS actually crashes, and upon restarting is back in this non-functioning state.I suspect a misbehaving plug-in. Which ones are you using? Note: when a UPnP client asks Whitebear to enumerate the branches and contents of the content directory, then Whitebear uses the CLI to do this. As well as enumerating the regular Albums, Artists, Genres trees, it also enumerates Podcasts, Apps and Radios; and the latter also enumerates within specific radio plug-ins. So if a plug-in faults on such a browse request from Whitebear, I suppose that if it has inadequate exception handling, it could bring down the whole SBS server application. -- But I think it is fair to say that in such a case, the blame should be laid on the plug-in and not on Whitebear... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
PasTim;639743 Wrote: Could you let me know which version of Whitebear are you using? Sorry PasTim, my post was just before I left for holiday and returned late last night. Version is 2.1.0.1673 and here are my settings: +---+ |Filename: whitebear settings.JPG | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12104| +---+ -- skind56 skind56's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9792 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
skind56;642748 Wrote: Sorry PasTim, my post was just before I left for holiday and returned late last night. Version is 2.1.0.1673 and here are my settings: Thanks for letting me know. I have it working now, with just the top 3 of those options ticked. -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
AndrewFG;639835 Wrote: Great news!! Can you please tell me if it is playing native FLACs (in which case the new Humax version is a major upgrade), or whether you have Whitebear set up to transcode them to MP3 (in which case the version is perhaps more of a bug fix...) ??? Sorry Andrew, my post was just before I left for holiday and returned late last night. I'm not sure how the settings affect transcoding so here are my settings. If you need more info then let me know. +---+ |Filename: whitebear settings.JPG | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12105| +---+ -- skind56 skind56's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9792 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Wigster;642609 Wrote: .. the connection to the CLI interface is not functioningOn the Whitebear Settings tab, check that the Squeezebox Server CLI port is correct. The default is 9090, but if you have changed Squeezebox Server to use another port, then you need to adjust the Whitebear Settings to match... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Hi, I've never changed the CLI port, so I presume it is 9090. WB definitely has it as that. iPeng works on my iPhone ok, but I can't find what it is using as the port. The really strange thing that has happened a couple of times is that when I start SBS, actually sees the CLI interface correctly. Then, when I try to play anything, SBS actually crashes, and upon restarting is back in this non-functioning state. -- Wigster Wigster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14899 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Hi. I am running Whitebear 2.1.0.1673 on WHS with SBS 7.6 r32656. It seems that the SBS is detected by Whitebear, but the connection to the CLI interface is not functioning. I have attached the screenshot of the WB Tray status. WB is exposing the SBS library correctly, but it is impossible to either play a track from the library, or to play a track from the WMP library to the Squeezebox. The Squeezebox is available as a Play To device, but sending a track to it results in a Device not responding error. Both the SBS and WB are running as services through the same user. Please let me know which logs you'd like to me to output, or if there is anything else I can try! Thanks! +---+ |Filename: WB.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12100| +---+ -- Wigster Wigster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14899 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Thanks again and highly recommended! AndrewFG, I just wanted to say thanks again for Whitebear. It has fundamentally changed how we control music for our SBs. I've been using J. River's Media Center for ages now (quite simply one of the finest and most powerful taggers / players available for Windows), and my music playing on my computer had been quite separate from music playing in other rooms of the house with the SBs. Now, with Whitebear and Media Center, all playback control is done with Media Center, sending music to its SB zones made available by Whitebear. No more clunky web interface to browse and control the SB's. A big Thank You! -- MrC MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
skind56;639719 Wrote: The latest Humax software release 1.02.20, released on the 5th July, seems to have fixed the flac problem as I can now play flacs on my Humax via Whitebear.Great news!! Can you please tell me if it is playing native FLACs (in which case the new Humax version is a major upgrade), or whether you have Whitebear set up to transcode them to MP3 (in which case the version is perhaps more of a bug fix...) ??? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Hi The latest Humax software release 1.02.20, released on the 5th July, seems to have fixed the flac problem as I can now play flacs on my Humax via Whitebear. Steve -- skind56 skind56's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9792 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
skind56;639719 Wrote: Hi The latest Humax software release 1.02.20, released on the 5th July, seems to have fixed the flac problem as I can now play flacs on my Humax via Whitebear. Steve Thanks for letting me know. I'll give it a try. -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
skind56;639719 Wrote: Hi The latest Humax software release 1.02.20, released on the 5th July, seems to have fixed the flac problem as I can now play flacs on my Humax via Whitebear. Steve Could you let me know which version of Whitebear are you using? -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
PasTim;635241 Wrote: Smaller file on its way - the first was too big and was rejected by your email system.Thanks. Go it. PasTim;635241 Wrote: I attach a log playing this track. You'll see it zipped through the 1st track (without playing it) and started on the next one in the folder.But no UUUs this time... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
AndrewFG;635458 Wrote: Thanks. Go it. But no UUUs this time... A few later on. I suspect Us are just quiet sections. -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
PasTim;635123 Wrote: I could use the commercial email address for feedback if that suits. Let me know.Yes. That would be fine thanks. PasTim;635123 Wrote: I do notice that the content range in the last flac log looks very strange and there are errors Requested Range Not Satisfiable and Range: bytes=0-1 looks weird, but then I don't know the protocol.It is my theory that these HTTP Range requests are the root of the problem with the Humax. They are certainly very unusual, and I have encountered no other player that makes such. As you notice, before starting a transaction, it does a HTTP HEAD Range: bytes=0-0 request (read the response headers corresponding to a GET of one byte); and if that fails, it does a HTTP GET Range: bytes=0-1 (actual read of two bytes). The release version of Whitebear accepts such range requests when transcoding music because it CAN deliver these first one or two bytes. However in the test version I sent you, I decided to see what would happen if Whitebear would reject such range requests (416 Requested Range Not Satisfiable) because, even if it can deliver the first 1 or 2 bytes, it would later be in a pickle if asked to deliver the NEXT one or two bytes. This is because when transcoding via flac.exe and lame.exe you can never be exactly sure of the time offset in the input file that would be needed in order to deliver a coresponding byte offset in the output stream. Not to mention that mp3 streams deliver data in samples that are always larger than one or two bytes. By the way, the reason it works with the Humax when playing native mp3 files is that, since the server has the actual mp3 file in its hands, it CAN deliver exactly any range of bytes requested. Unlike the case when double transcoding where the server has to make guesses on the fly. Frankly, I am not sure WHY the Humax is doing these fancy HEAD or GET Range requests. I suppose it is trying to determine the full length of the stream from the response Content-Range header before it actually launches the full download of the music the stream using a proper full blown GET. As an aside, for example Windows Media Player, also always does two full blown GETs, of which the first one is immediately aborted; so the Humax is not alone in behaving oddly... Of course we still have the other theory about the UUUs in the mp3 file too... So, in my next test build, I shall do two things: 1) revert to accepting these odd Range requests, so that the response Content-Range header is delivered properly, and 2) capture the delivered stream in parallel to a disk file, so that you can then later test if the disk file plays as a native file on the Humax (UUUs and all). -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
AndrewFG;635167 Wrote: Yes. That would be fine thanks. Large file on its way by email. -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Smaller file on its way - the first was too big and was rejected by your email system. So that we are looking at the same stuff, I attach a log playing this track. You'll see it zipped through the 1st track (without playing it) and started on the next one in the folder. +---+ |Filename: MediaServer flac 7 june.log | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11961| +---+ -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
AndrewFG;635040 Wrote: Thank you. I can see that something different is happening than before; but apparently it is not succesful either. -- I will have a think about this... If it's not data, could it be timing? If the transcoding takes a bit of time to kick off maybe the Humax gives up? -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
PasTim;635075 Wrote: If it's not data, could it be timing? If the transcoding takes a bit of time to kick off maybe the Humax gives up?Its an idea. I notice that in your log files the transcoded mp3 music files start with LAME3.98.4 followed by many UUU's. I don't know the details of the insides of mp3 files, but so much non information makes me think that lame.exe is coding -- well -- nothing. And that perhaps your Humax doesn't like nothing as an input. The oddity is that when I simulate transcoding some of my files to mp3 using lame.exe, I do NOT see all those UUU's. So perhaps there is something special in your source files? Probably you ripped them with different software than me? Or whatever? (Is this starting to sound like an episode of Dr House???) = Anyway can you therefore please send me one of your source files, for me to test further. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
AndrewFG;635113 Wrote: Anyway can you therefore please send me one of your source files, for me to test further. I've used EAC for all my files. Unfortunately my flacs are way too large for the forum attachment system (7,000KB and up). It may be that many of my flacs start with silence. If you want to pm me your email address I'll send you an email direct with the last one I tried as in the flac log I sent. I just had a look at your website - I could use the commercial email address for feedback if that suits. Let me know. I do notice that the content range in the last flac log looks very strange and there are errors Requested Range Not Satisfiable and Range: bytes=0-1 looks weird, but then I don't know the protocol. -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
AndrewFG;634221 Wrote: ... This could be either 1) because (it thinks) the content itself is mangled, or 2) because (it thinks) the protocol response contains something unexpected. -- I am going to test 1) with you first.Hi PasTim, In my test rig I simulated a music request from your Humax to Whitebear; and attached is a file with the output from Whitebear's transcoder. Please see if your Humax can play the file. +---+ |Filename: 320kbps.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11947| +---+ -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
AndrewFG;634976 Wrote: Hi PasTim, In my test rig I simulated a music request from your Humax to Whitebear; and attached is a file with the output from Whitebear's transcoder. Please see if your Humax can play the file. I placed the file in a folder with my other SB flacs and selected the file using the 'folders' menu option (since it's not in the SB database). Works fine. 6 seconds-worth. To make sure it's not a fluke I played a flac without touching anything, and it still didn't play at all, just skipped to the next track after a few seconds (as before). I have also tried different build of lame, just to make sure. No difference. -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
PasTim;634985 Wrote: Works fine. 6 seconds-worth.Ok. That rules out a transcoder problem. So presumably there is something about the HTTP headers sent by Whitebear, that your Humax does not like. I will make a new test build of Whitebear and PM you with a link where you can get it. Thank you for your help in solving this issue. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Here's a log of a flac being played (and failing). It starts when I am viewing a list of flacs and select one to play. I cancelled playing after a few seconds to keep the size down I also attach the first bit of the log of the same system playing the mp3 you sent me. I could not see a way to attach these in a PM - am I missing something? +---+ |Filename: MediaServer mp3 extract.log | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11949| +---+ -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
And I should have said that the new version of Whitebear behaved exactly as before. And yes, I double-checked it had installed as 2.1.0.1684 -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
PasTim;635010 Wrote: Here's a log of a flac being played (and failing). It starts when I am viewing a list of flacs and select one to play. I cancelled playing after a few seconds to keep the size down I also attach the first bit of the log of the same system playing the mp3 you sent me.Thank you. I can see that something different is happening than before; but apparently it is not succesful either. -- I will have a think about this... PasTim;635010 Wrote: I could not see a way to attach these in a PM - am I missing something?No I don't think you are missing anything. It is strange isn't it... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
PasTim;633970 Wrote: I would have thought that presenting the Humax with an mp3 file on a stick is probably going to work anywayMy hypothesis is that when Whitebear is asked to produce a transcoded Mp3 file as a result of Range request, it may be producing a truncated Mp3 or one with something odd in it, that perhaps the Humax does not like. (But this is admittedly only a hypothesis...) Also you mentioned that the Humax had the same Http Range issue with foobar's foo_upnp plug in (I read your posts today on hydrogenaudio). However it was not evident if bubbleguum was able to solve the issue or not. Did he solve it? And if so, do you have any information from him what he needed to change in foo_upnp to fix it? -- I hope to benefit from his learning curve... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
AndrewFG;634164 Wrote: My hypothesis is that when Whitebear is asked to produce a transcoded Mp3 file as a result of Range request, it may be producing a truncated Mp3 or one with something odd in it, that perhaps the Humax does not like. (But this is admittedly only a hypothesis...) Also you mentioned that the Humax had the same Http Range issue with foobar's foo_upnp plug in (I read your posts today on hydrogenaudio). However it was not evident if bubbleguum was able to solve the issue or not. Did he solve it? And if so, do you have any information from him what he needed to change in foo_upnp to fix it? -- I hope to benefit from his learning curve... Bubblegum didn't find a solution, and I didn't press, since this box is clearly unusual and my need is not urgent. I did try the latest release but it behaves in exactly the same way as Whitebear. If you need a complete log let me know where I can send it to. I had to cut the previous one because it exceeded the size allowed for forum attachments. My own hypothesis, based on almost nothing, is that whatever is expected to control the speed of delivery of data isn't functioning at all. Thus a 4 minute track is sent and ignored within 10-20 seconds. I assume there is a protocol governing such stuff, but I've no idea what it is and why it is failing (and you don't need to waste your time telling me unless you really want to!). -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
PasTim;634171 Wrote: My own hypothesis, based on almost nothing, is that whatever is expected to control the speed of delivery of data isn't functioning at all. Thus a 4 minute track is sent and ignored within 10-20 seconds. I assume there is a protocol governing such stuff, but I've no idea what it is and why it is failing (and you don't need to waste your time telling me unless you really want to!).Well actually the protocol and flow control (HTTP request followed by HTTP response) are working fine. And a track (or something that looks like one) is certainly being sent. The problem is that the Humax does not seem to like what it is getting, and abandons the download after a few seconds, and tries the next track. This could be either 1) because (it thinks) the content itself is mangled, or 2) because (it thinks) the protocol response contains something unexpected. -- I am going to test 1) with you first. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
PasTim;633827 Wrote: That's why I wondered about whether the SB FIle Types set-up had anything to do with the transcoding. I don't know whether Whitebear or SB is being asked to execute the transcoding, and so don't know where the problem might lie.Whitebear does the transcoding using SC's transcoder helper applications. To transcode to MP3 you need lame.exe installed. (Check Whitebear's tray monitor transcoder page to see if it is). Lame.exe is a 3rd party application that for some reason SC is not allowed to ship as part of its installation bundle. So you need to download it and install it yourself. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
AndrewFG;633883 Wrote: Whitebear does the transcoding using SC's transcoder helper applications. To transcode to MP3 you need lame.exe installed. (Check Whitebear's tray monitor transcoder page to see if it is). Lame.exe is a 3rd party application that for some reason SC is not allowed to ship as part of its installation bundle. So you need to download it and install it yourself. http://lame.sourceforge.net/ Lame is already installed (the transcoder page shows it is there). However, I did notice flac.exe running very briefly under whitebear.exe. I don't know why. -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
PasTim;633892 Wrote: Lame is already installed (the transcoder page shows it is there). However, I did notice flac.exe running very briefly under whitebear.exe. I don't know why.It is a two step process: first flac.exe transcodes from flac to raw pcm, then lame.exe transcodes it from raw pcm to mp3... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
AndrewFG;633913 Wrote: It is a two step process: first flac.exe transcodes from flac to raw pcm, then lame.exe transcodes it from raw pcm to mp3... Since you see flac.exe running then it is a confirmation that the full transcoding process is working. So frankly I have no idea why your Humax is not playing the stream. Perhaps you can send me a Whitebear log (HTTP Server log) from around when you start to (try to) play the file? A log is attached. It seems that the track is sent in a flash and then moves on to the next one. I cut most of the data of the 1st track out (to keep the log short), and the ended the log after it started to send the 2nd track. +---+ |Filename: MediaServer xtract.log | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11925| +---+ -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
PasTim;633919 Wrote: A log is attached. It seems that the track is sent in a flash and then moves on to the next one. I cut most of the data of the 1st track out (to keep the log short), and the ended the log after it started to send the 2nd track.Perfect! Thank you. If you are interested to know what is going on: the player makes an HTTP HEAD followed by an HTTP GET request for the stream, both having an HTTP RANGE header in the request. And Whitebear returns an HTTP 206 Partial Content response. RANGE requests and Partial responses enable server based seeking within the stream. The problem with server based seeking is that when transcoding on the fly (especially when doing multi step flac-pcm-mp3 trancoding), the server doesn't know exactly where it is in the stream, nor can it calculate the full length of the stream; and if the data is even one byte off, the resulting output is garbage. = I expect this is what is going on here. However I think I can fix this. Give me a few days and I will get back to you on this thread. In the worst case, the solution might require sacrificing server based seek on such transcoded files... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
AndrewFG;633926 Wrote: Perfect! Thank you. If you are interested to know what is going on: the player makes an HTTP HEAD followed by an HTTP GET request for the stream, both having an HTTP RANGE header in the request. And Whitebear returns an HTTP 206 Partial Content response. RANGE requests and Partial responses enable server based seeking within the stream. The problem with server based seeking is that when transcoding on the fly (especially when doing multi step flac-pcm-mp3 trancoding), the server doesn't know exactly where it is in the stream, nor can it calculate the full length of the stream; and if the data is even one byte off, the resulting output is garbage. = I expect this is what is going on here. However I think I can fix this. Give me a few days and I will get back to you on this thread. In the worst case, the solution might require sacrificing server based seek on such transcoded files... Thanks very much for your help and efforts on my behalf. Please don't bust a gut for this. If I am the only one with this problem then I leave it to you to decide if it is worth the effort. I had the same problem with the foobar2000 UpNp facility as well, so it seems this particular box is a nuisance (to say the least). -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
PasTim;633930 Wrote: Please don't bust a gut for this. If I am the only one with this problem then I leave it to you to decide if it is worth the effort.The issue definitely needs to be (and will be) fixed. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
AndrewFG;633932 Wrote: The issue definitely needs to be (and will be) fixed. In that case I'll be more than happy to be your Alpha/Beta/... tester. -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
PasTim;633935 Wrote: In that case I'll be more than happy to be your Alpha/Beta/... tester.I'm mighty glad you said that!! Since I don't have a Humax player, and since indeed I don't have any other player that uses HTTP Range requests for server side seeking, I am going to have to slice the testing into pieces and bounce each slice off you. The steps would be the following: 1) I cheat my test rig so that one of my players gets disguised to look like your Humax (i.e. sending the HTTP headers from the log you sent me already), and I intercept the resulting transcoded mp3 stream output to a file. 2) I then send you the mp3 disk file, and ask you to test if it plays (via a usb stick or cd-rom) on your player. Does that sound do-able? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
AndrewFG;633963 Wrote: I'm mighty glad you said that!! Since I don't have a Humax player, and since indeed I don't have any other player that uses HTTP Range requests for server side seeking, I am going to have to slice the testing into pieces and bounce each slice off you. The steps would be the following: 1) I cheat my test rig so that one of my players gets disguised to look like your Humax (i.e. sending the HTTP headers from the log you sent me already), and I intercept the resulting transcoded mp3 stream output to a file. 2) I then send you the mp3 disk file, and ask you to test if it plays (via a usb stick or cd-rom) on your player. Does that sound do-able? We know MP3s do play OK, it's only transcoded files that don't. Will that make a difference? I would have thought that presenting the Humax with an mp3 file on a stick is probably going to work anyway, but then I don't really understand the problem, so it's your call. I could also put the mp3 in a disk folder and let whitebear pick it up via SB from a folder. If the mp3s are small enough (I assume a few seconds should suffice to prove the point) could you send files by email, or even private mail on this forum? I'm also quite willing to take an early test version of Whitebear and suck it and see. I'm around much of the time, but often not for a fair bit on Tuesdays. -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
I tried an earlier version of Whitebear with SB and could not see any of my FLACs on my Humax PVR, so I gave up on it. At the moment I'm only really interested in it as backup in case my Logitech Touch should fail, and also as an interesting option. I downloaded the latest 2.1 today and I can now see the files, which is great. My next problem is that when I play one no sound comes out and the PVR skips from one track to the next very quickly. As far as I can tell the Humax only understands MP3s. Whitebear says all the transcoders are present and available. I have played around with the SB File Type settings quite a bit for other reasons. I don't really understand the architecture here, so can someone tell me whether the SB File Types settings have any effect on Whitebear? When I try to play a track I see a flac.exe process run briefly under initiation by Whitebear, but not lame. I'm currently running SB 7.5.4. I also have no idea what the various Whitebear settings options do, nor what the user agent information is or should be. My ignorance, as you can see, is quite extensive. -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
PasTim;633750 Wrote: As far as I can tell the Humax only understands MP3s.Indeed. As has been noted before, the Humax is completely non compliant to the UPnP and DLNA specifications. In the Whitebear Tray Monitor, select Settings | Client Compatibilty Settings.. | select the Humax in the dropdown | Change.. | check the two Declare Mp3 before boxes | Ok | Save. If the Humax is really intransigent, then try also the two Do not declare options and/or the two Exclude options. (Probably the last two options will not make any difference). -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
AndrewFG;633812 Wrote: Indeed. As has been noted before, the Humax is completely non compliant to the UPnP and DLNA specifications. In the Whitebear Tray Monitor, select Settings | Client Compatibilty Settings.. | select the Humax in the dropdown | Change.. | check the two Declare Mp3 before boxes | Ok | Save. If the Humax is really intransigent, then try also the two Do not declare options and/or the two Exclude options. (Probably the last two options will not make any difference). I don't see any Humax in the dropdown, just POSIX... and Platinum... I tried the setting options. With the two Declare MP3s... on I can see FLAC and MP3 files (FLACS disappear if I pick Do not declare transcoded resources... which makes some sense). When I play FLACs nothing happens except skipping fairly quickly to the next track. MP3s play OK. That's why I wondered about whether the SB FIle Types set-up had anything to do with the transcoding. I don't know whether Whitebear or SB is being asked to execute the transcoding, and so don't know where the problem might lie. -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
I just posted an update with added support for browising of SC Favorites. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
I am interested in using Whitebear as a DMR to allow me to control my two SB3s from JRiver MC. The plan is to use JRiver's Gizomo2 as a remote for MC16 and control playback to the SB3s. -Is this feasible? -Will I have full control over the SB3s through Gizmo2? -Will this setup keep the players in sync? Thanks, pete -- widman widman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8695 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
widman;633520 Wrote: -Is this feasible? -Will I have full control over the SB3s through Gizmo2? -Will this setup keep the players in sync? To 1: Yes, To 2: Yes, To 3: No (UPNP has no mechanism for synching players) -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Wigster;631439 Wrote: It started when I upgraded to the latest 7.6 beta r32413 and seems to be intermitted, i.e. sometimes things do work ok.What shall I say?? Go back to the stable release that did work properly?? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Wigster;631458 Wrote: SBS does not seem to scrobble the tracks played through WB to last.fm.I guess that your plug in only scrobbles tracks that are commanded to play via one of the UIs. I would not be surprised if the plug in would not be mnitoring tracks played via the SBS CLI interface (since this is not a UI). -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Hi Andrew. For a few days White bear was working perfectly here, but all of a sudden I am having problems. It started when I upgraded to the latest 7.6 beta r32413. It seems like WB sometimes loses the SBS. They are running on the same machine as services, with the same user. In fact I have managed to get WB out of this state by switching the user by whom the process is launched from Administrator to match it with the SBS. But now I cannot get it to work, despite having restarted both WB amd SBS a few times. In fact immediately before it got into this state, an MP3 being served to WB by WMP-12 crashed the SBS. THis is what the SBS log contains Code: [11-05-15 18:04:41.7910] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setPlayingState (2335) new playing state PLAYING [11-05-15 18:04:41.7920] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Playing (361) Song 0 has now started playing [11-05-15 18:04:41.7943] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Playing (390) Song queue is now 0 [11-05-15 18:08:03.0233] Slim::Player::StreamingController::playerEndOfStream (2244) 00:04:20:12:0d:13 [11-05-15 18:08:03.0244] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setStreamingState (2348) new streaming state STREAMOUT [11-05-15 18:09:21.6975] Slim::Player::StreamingController::playerReadyToStream (2165) 00:04:20:12:0d:13 [11-05-15 18:09:21.6990] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setStreamingState (2348) new streaming state IDLE [11-05-15 18:09:21.7013] Slim::Player::StreamingController::nextsong (863) The next song is number 0, was 0 [11-05-15 18:09:31.6588] Slim::Player::StreamingController::playerStopped (2124) 00:04:20:12:0d:13 [11-05-15 18:09:31.6606] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setPlayingState (2335) new playing state STOPPED [11-05-15 18:09:34.1808] Slim::Player::StreamingController::stop (2064) 00:04:20:12:0d:13 [11-05-15 18:09:34.1819] Slim::Player::StreamingController::resetSongqueue (1747) Song queue is now [11-05-15 18:09:34.2572] Slim::Player::StreamingController::play (2067) 00:04:20:12:0d:13 [11-05-15 18:09:34.2592] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setPlayingState (2335) new playing state STOPPED [11-05-15 18:09:34.2602] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setStreamingState (2348) new streaming state IDLE [11-05-15 18:09:34.2621] Slim::Player::Song::new (108) index 0 - http://192.168.1.5:10243/WMPNSSv4/2694848959/0_e0M1NUMwQzYyLUEwQTctNDhGOS1CNTFFLUYyQTc5MjVFODdEMH0uMC40.mp3 [11-05-15 18:09:34.2636] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setStreamingState (2348) new streaming state TRACKWAIT [11-05-15 18:09:34.2718] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_playersMessage (789) Getting stream info...: http://192.168.1.5:10243/WMPNSSv4/2694848959/0_e0M1NUMwQzYyLUEwQTctNDhGOS1CNTFFLUYyQTc5MjVFODdEMH0uMC40.mp3 [11-05-15 18:09:34.2761] Slim::Player::Song::getNextSong (229) http://192.168.1.5:10243/WMPNSSv4/2694848959/0_e0M1NUMwQzYyLUEwQTctNDhGOS1CNTFFLUYyQTc5MjVFODdEMH0uMC40.mp3 [11-05-15 18:09:34.2772] Slim::Player::Song::getNextSong (251) scanning URL http://192.168.1.5:10243/WMPNSSv4/2694848959/0_e0M1NUMwQzYyLUEwQTctNDhGOS1CNTFFLUYyQTc5MjVFODdEMH0uMC40.mp3 [11-05-15 18:09:34.3006] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2 (425) Error: Didn't find any command matches for type: mp3 [11-05-15 18:09:34.3196] Slim::Player::Song::getNextSong (229) http://192.168.1.5:10243/WMPNSSv4/2694848959/0_e0M1NUMwQzYyLUEwQTctNDhGOS1CNTFFLUYyQTc5MjVFODdEMH0uMC40.mp3 [11-05-15 18:09:34.3207] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_nextTrackReady (737) 00:04:20:12:0d:13: nextTrack will be index 0 [11-05-15 18:09:34.3217] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1196) Song queue is now 0 [11-05-15 18:09:34.3226] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1199) 00:04:20:12:0d:13: preparing to stream song index 0 [11-05-15 18:09:34.3237] Slim::Player::Song::open (363) http://192.168.1.5:10243/WMPNSSv4/2694848959/0_e0M1NUMwQzYyLUEwQTctNDhGOS1CNTFFLUYyQTc5MjVFODdEMH0uMC40.mp3 [11-05-15 18:09:34.3250] Slim::Player::Song::open (387) seek=false time=0 canSeek=0SEEK_ERROR_MP3_UNKNOWN_BITRATE [11-05-15 18:09:34.3270] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2 (428) Matched: mp3-mp3 via: - [11-05-15 18:09:34.3279] Slim::Player::Song::open (408) Transcoder: streamMode=I, streamformat=mp3 [11-05-15 18:09:34.3290] Slim::Player::Song::open (451) URL supports direct streaming [http://192.168.1.5:10243/WMPNSSv4/2694848959/0_e0M1NUMwQzYyLUEwQTctNDhGOS1CNTFFLUYyQTc5MjVFODdEMH0uMC40.mp3-http://192.168.1.5:10243/WMPNSSv4/2694848959/0_e0M1NUMwQzYyLUEwQTctNDhGOS1CNTFFLUYyQTc5MjVFODdEMH0uMC40.mp3] [11-05-15 18:09:34.3313] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1258) 00:04:20:12:0d:13: stream [11-05-15 18:09:34.3427] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1293) Song queue is now 0 [11-05-15 18:09:34.3447] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setPlayingState (2335) new playing state BUFFERING [11-05-15 18:09:34.3462]
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
A different thing that I've noticed, is that SBS does not seem to scrobble the tracks played through WB to last.fm. Is the idea that WMP-12 supposed to be doing this? I have the scrobbling plug in turned on in WMP-12 and it doesn't seem to be dealing with this either? -- Wigster Wigster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14899 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
AndrewFG;630986 Wrote: Can you be more specific about what does not work? I am refering to our posts in the previous thread http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=621211postcount=136 and to the pm's where you were looking at my log files. -- indifference_engine 1xRadio, 2xReceiver, 2xController, 1xSB3, 2xSqueezeSlave, SBS 7.5.3 Inventor of SqueezeIR applet for the Controller indifference_engine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20698 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
indifference_engine;630083 Wrote: When I modify the client compatibility settings to suit my Nokia phoen I get some weird stuff going on. When I hit save I get the device replicated four times in the drop-down so it looke like this: Nokia DLNADOC/1.50 UPnP/1.0 ;;;Nokia DLNADOC/1.50 UPnP/1.0 ;;Nokia DLNADOC/1.50 UPnP/1.0 ;Nokia DLNADOC/1.50 UPnP/1.0 The beta version that you sent by pm didn't do this and worked with my phone, this one doesn't work with my phone even if I modify the settings of each of the replicates. Bug somewhere??Hi indifference_engine, Sorry for this. I worked out what is going wrong here. And I will post a minor update for this later today... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Wigster;630285 Wrote: 1) I've noticed that when a file has an apostrophe in the filename, it appears in the playlist of the web interface with apos instead of the '. It appears correctly in the now playing bit and the info panel on the left.This is now fixed (hopefully) in the current update... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
