Re: TwangCast for Macs
At 5:47 PM -0600 on 2/4/99, Joe Gracey wrote: jamie wrote: On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Stuart Munro wrote: As well, aren't there a few alternatives to these two that you TwangCast boys might consider? Shockwave, Audioative (both of which Carl Z's station use, if I'm not mistaken), Streamworks, etc.? Check out shoutcast (www.shoutcast.com). It's an MP3 streaming server using winamp as the client. And it's free. Very cool. jamie It doesn't run on a mac yet either, however. I think it is a little bit unfair to characterize mac users as a tiny minority- if you want to be anecdotal about it, literally everybody I know in the music business world-wide uses Macs and I daresay the majority of creative people in all fields use them. It is also a fact that a highly disproportionate number of internet users and web page authors use Macs. I firmly feel that it is a grave error to ghettoize us, which happens all too often. Brother Gracey speaks the truth. (Well, as always.) Microsoft's buggy software isn't Mike's fault, but I'd love to see him try out some of the software Stuart mentioned. Mike, you might also consider renting a Mac for a few days and getting it to work over a modem yourself -- then write up a help page for Mac users to follow. (And don't get one of the cool new ones; they're selling well, but frankly something a year old or so is going to be a lot more typical of what's already out there.) np -- Rosanne Cash at Johnny D's a coupla years ago Bob
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Bob writes: . Mike, you might also consider renting a Mac for a few days and getting it to work over a modem yourself -- then write up a help page for Mac users to follow. We'll have links to Mac user groups on site soon so that the issue of making the player work (I understand it has problems on other sites with Mac too) can be discussed by all you Mac users. We'll monitor those as much as possible looking for a solution but we feel Microsoft is probably the biggest part of the culprit here. My tech guys don't know everything but they have spent countless hours dealing with this and as Microsoft beta developers/testers they have access to a lot of good info. As far as other formats for audio delivery, we're sticking by our Media Player and hoping for divine intervention for Mac users. I'll keep you posted, also look for a discussion chat on TwangCast soon. Mike Hays http://www.TwangCast.com TM RealCountry 24 X 7 Please Visit Then let us know what you think! Mike Hays www.MikeHays.RealCountry.net For the best country artist web hosting, www.RealCountry.net
TwangCast and Macs (was Re: Hay Check this out!)
Chad Cosper asked: This may have been covered at some point in time, but is there any way for us Mac users to access this? Any plans for Microsoft to release a Mac version of their player or is there one out there that I just haven't seen? There is a beta version of Media Player for the Mac. It works fine, at least on the streams I've checked, but it does not yet work with TwangCast (sniff, sniff). I don't know if this is due to the Mac Media Player, or Mac Netscape (which I use), or both. I do believe (or hope) the TwangCast folks are working on the problem. Stuart Munro
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TwangCast Mike wrote: Hang Tight Mac users, we're going to get this thing de-bugged for ya'll. I only know two Mac users and both bring up the player and then type in the following address, mms://media.gemlink.com/TwangCast I hate to tell you this, Mike, but directly pasting the link into Media Player doesn't work either. And then, Personally, I know exactly 2 people with Macs in a non workplace environment, hundreds with PC's. Better start checking those monthly iMac sales figures, Mike g. Other matter re Mac, Microsoft, etc.: Bill Silvers raises a good point: I'm pretty sure that Media Player was built to play Real Audio streams; in fact, the Real Audio people complained when MP first came out that it disabled Real Player on any computer on which it was installed. It's quite possible that the latest Real Audio Player (G2 I think, also in early beta on the Mac side) will play Media Player streams. As well, aren't there a few alternatives to these two that you TwangCast boys might consider? Shockwave, Audioative (both of which Carl Z's station use, if I'm not mistaken), Streamworks, etc.? Stuart Munro
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Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 4-Feb-99 Re: TwangCast for Macs by Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] As well, aren't there a few alternatives to these two that you TwangCast boys might consider? Shockwave, Audioative (both of which Carl Z's station use, if I'm not mistaken), Streamworks, etc.? We've had some problems with Shockwave, though it's pretty good. Our tech people tell me that any program designed to play mp3s will carry our signal, so WinAmp and other programs should work as well. I'm not familiar with Streamworks, but the mp3 netcasts are very clear. Carl Z.
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jamie wrote: On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Stuart Munro wrote: As well, aren't there a few alternatives to these two that you TwangCast boys might consider? Shockwave, Audioative (both of which Carl Z's station use, if I'm not mistaken), Streamworks, etc.? Check out shoutcast (www.shoutcast.com). It's an MP3 streaming server using winamp as the client. And it's free. Very cool. jamie It doesn't run on a mac yet either, however. I think it is a little bit unfair to characterize mac users as a tiny minority- if you want to be anecdotal about it, literally everybody I know in the music business world-wide uses Macs and I daresay the majority of creative people in all fields use them. It is also a fact that a highly disproportionate number of internet users and web page authors use Macs. I firmly feel that it is a grave error to ghettoize us, which happens all too often. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
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I think it is a little bit unfair to characterize mac users as a tiny minority- -- It is also a fact that a highly disproportionate number of internet users and web page authors use Macs. I firmly feel that it is a grave error to ghettoize us, which happens all too often. No offense intended Joe, just numbers. I agree with your assesment of the creative community and the use of Macs but under 3% worldwide is a minority any way you cut it. Not a ghetto, just a minority. As to a large percentage of internet users? They can sell an iMac a minute 24X7X365 and they'll never establish the penetration of IBM clone users on the net. Believe me, here at TwangCast we very much want to find the answer to making our feed Mac compatible exactly because of the large number of industry folks who still use Macs. Time to end this thread with the words, when we get it figured out and can provide accurate Mac user information I'll post it. Mike Hays http://www.TwangCast.com TM RealCountry 24 X 7 Please Visit Then let us know what you think! Mike Hays www.MikeHays.RealCountry.net For the best country artist web hosting, www.RealCountry.net
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Awright Mike!! Been waiting for this... Owen Bly Ranchero Records Oakland, CA There is a specific link on the TwangCast home page for the Mac users now. The server at Microsoft determines the user platform and sends them to the proper download area. So ... Mac users can click on the image and it will take care of them, or they can click on the Mac paragraph "click here" and get to the same NOW ONLINE, http://www.TwangCast.com>http://www.TwangCast.com TM RealCountry netcast 24 X 7 Please Visit Then let us know what you think! Mike Hays http://www.MikeHays.RealCountry.net>www.MikeHays.RealCountry.net For the best country artist web hosting, http://www.RealCountry.ne>www.RealCountry.net
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Owen writes: I guess I should mention that the file comes in to your PC compressed and does need to be opened. You also may have to reboot. I don't know enough about Macs. The info I sent was from my tech guru, who thinks we should all know as much as he does.g NOW ONLINE, http://www.TwangCast.com TM RealCountry netcast 24 X 7 Please Visit Then let us know what you think! Mike Hays www.MikeHays.RealCountry.net For the best country artist web hosting, www.RealCountry.net If anyone (Owen?) actually gets this working on a Mac, I'd love to know how. I've got the media player downloaded, but my browser will not activate it when I call up the TwangCast page. Mike: is your "tech guru" accessible? Off-list is cool, unless other Mac users are having the same difficulties. Todd
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Todd writes: If anyone (Owen?) actually gets this working on a Mac, I'd love to know how. I've got the media player downloaded, but my browser will not activate it when I call up the TwangCast page. Mike: is your "tech guru" accessible? Off-list is cool, unless other Mac users are having the same difficulties. Todd Well, I downloaded it from the Microsoft page, and sure enough it came stuffed. No biggie. I unstuffed it, went to install it, and got the painful news that the player only works if you have System 8. Damn. I only have 7.5, so I'm SOL. Maybe that's what's happening with you too? Owen
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I know a Mac user who is having the same trouble - please make replies to the list so I can read 'em and pass 'em along. John Magee -Original Message- From: Owen Bly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 5:20 PM Subject: Re: TwangCast for Macs Owen writes: I guess I should mention that the file comes in to your PC compressed and does need to be opened. You also may have to reboot. I don't know enough about Macs. The info I sent was from my tech guru, who thinks we should all know as much as he does.g NOW ONLINE, http://www.TwangCast.com TM RealCountry netcast 24 X 7 Please Visit Then let us know what you think! Mike Hays www.MikeHays.RealCountry.net For the best country artist web hosting, www.RealCountry.net If anyone (Owen?) actually gets this working on a Mac, I'd love to know how. I've got the media player downloaded, but my browser will not activate it when I call up the TwangCast page. Mike: is your "tech guru" accessible? Off-list is cool, unless other Mac users are having the same difficulties. Todd
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Hate to add too much more headaches, but I am running OS8 and am having the same problems... Passed the Mac System 8 only info on to my tech guy. He'll figure something out and when he does I'll post it. Sorry for the inconvenience. Mike NOW ONLINE, http://www.TwangCast.com TM RealCountry netcast 24 X 7 Please Visit Then let us know what you think! Mike Hays www.MikeHays.RealCountry.net For the best country artist web hosting, www.RealCountry.net ** Chad Cosper Dept. of English Univ. of North Carolina at Greensboro 336-275-8576 http://www.uncg.edu/~cscosper
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i have system 8.1 and it still doesn't work.any help would be appreciated...
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I haven't been able to get Twangcast with OS 8.5 on a 300 MHz G3 Mac either, and I had the Microsoft player weeks ago so I could tryand that's on either Netscape Communicator or Microsoft Explorer.. .The "real" problem, it appears, is that the endless beta "Microsoft Media Player for the Macintosh" itself basically doesn't work very well and is only half there under any circumstances...Very little runs on it as it stands now without crashing. Maybe the answer for making RealTwang available is to put RealPlayer on the site! That works for just about everybody everywhere. Really. Barry
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I have system 8.1 and it still doesn't work.any help would be appreciated I'll post new information as it becomes available. NOW ONLINE, http://www.TwangCast.com TM RealCountry netcast 24 X 7 Please Visit Then let us know what you think! Mike Hays www.MikeHays.RealCountry.net For the best country artist web hosting, www.RealCountry.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 3:03 PM Subject: Re: TwangCast for Macs ...
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well thanks for the efforts and will be lookin forward to microsoft or you guys working this all out
