Re: file sharing between 7.5.3 and OS X

[Bruce Johnson]

Clark Martin wrote:

Upgrading the AppleShare client software on the 7.5.3 box will probably 
fix this in ability to maintain log in to the OS X  box.  I don't recall 
the version but it should be available from Apple.
AS 3.8.1 spings to mind...

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Re: file sharing between 7.5.3 and OS X

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> I'd like to know if it is possible to exchange files between two 
> computers - one running OS X 10.2.6 and the other Mac OS 7.5.3. The 
> computers are both connected to the LAN and can both access the web. I 
> guess I could use Personal Web Sharing to get stuff one way (X->7.5.3) 
> but I was thinking about mounting volumes and such. Any ideas?

If mounting drives isn't a must-have, you might just try enabling FTP on the OS X box. 
 That's been the easiest way for me to throw files around between OS 9-, Windows, and 
my X box (not to be confused with Xbox, natch!).

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Re: file sharing between 7.5.3 and OS X

[Clark Martin]

At 10:46 PM +0200 8/5/2003, Boris Herman wrote:
Hi

I'd like to know if it is possible to exchange files between two
computers - one running OS X 10.2.6 and the other Mac OS 7.5.3. The
Simple. Turn on personal File Sharing in the system Preferences. The
7.5.3 system can access shared directories via the chooser, (you may
have to update appleshare), via the Server IP address. It will show in
your browsable list of hosts.
For the OS X box to see the 7.5 system you need Shareway IP Personal
 (Or to upgrade to OS 9, because
Apple's solution for personal File Sharing in OS 9 was actually a
bundled version of Shareway IP personal...) Then folders and volumes
marked as shared are accessible on your 7.5 system as permitted in the
Users and Groups control panel.
Here is what I did to make it work. First I had to turn AppleTalk ON 
on the TiBook. Then the 7.5.3 could see the TiBook but for some 
reason could not authenticate on it - it gave me a "connection to 
server was unexpectedly quit" (or something very similar). Ok, that 
was a no-go. I turned Sharing ON on the 7.5.3 box and went to the 
TiBook which could see the 7.5.3 system with no additional software. 
I can log to the server by clicking it which reveals this connect 
string: "afp:/at/7100%2f80:*" The old box name is, as you can see, 
(7100/80). It works like a charm and is quite fast (considering an 
aaui transciever is in between).


Upgrading the AppleShare client software on the 7.5.3 box will 
probably fix this in ability to maintain log in to the OS X  box.  I 
don't recall the version but it should be available from Apple.

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Re: file sharing between 7.5.3 and OS X

[Boris Herman]

Hi

I'd like to know if it is possible to exchange files between two
computers - one running OS X 10.2.6 and the other Mac OS 7.5.3. The
Simple. Turn on personal File Sharing in the system Preferences. The
7.5.3 system can access shared directories via the chooser, (you may
have to update appleshare), via the Server IP address. It will show in
your browsable list of hosts.
For the OS X box to see the 7.5 system you need Shareway IP Personal
 (Or to upgrade to OS 9, because
Apple's solution for personal File Sharing in OS 9 was actually a
bundled version of Shareway IP personal...) Then folders and volumes
marked as shared are accessible on your 7.5 system as permitted in the
Users and Groups control panel.
Here is what I did to make it work. First I had to turn AppleTalk ON on 
the TiBook. Then the 7.5.3 could see the TiBook but for some reason 
could not authenticate on it - it gave me a "connection to server was 
unexpectedly quit" (or something very similar). Ok, that was a no-go. I 
turned Sharing ON on the 7.5.3 box and went to the TiBook which could 
see the 7.5.3 system with no additional software. I can log to the 
server by clicking it which reveals this connect string: 
"afp:/at/7100%2f80:*" The old box name is, as you can see, (7100/80). 
It works like a charm and is quite fast (considering an aaui 
transciever is in between).

Regards,
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Re: file sharing between 7.5.3 and OS X

[Bruce Johnson]

Boris Herman wrote:

Hi

I'd like to know if it is possible to exchange files between two 
computers - one running OS X 10.2.6 and the other Mac OS 7.5.3. The 
computers are both connected to the LAN and can both access the web. I 
guess I could use Personal Web Sharing to get stuff one way (X->7.5.3) 
but I was thinking about mounting volumes and such. Any ideas?
Simple. Turn on personal File Sharing in the system Preferences. The 
7.5.3 system can access shared directories via the chooser, (you may 
have to update appleshare), via the Server IP address. It will show in 
your browsable list of hosts.

Anything in your user's Public folder is accessible via Guest Access; 
anything in your own Home dir is accessible by logging on as the user 
you are on the OS X system.

For the OS X box to see the 7.5 system you need Shareway IP Personal 
 (Or to upgrade to OS 9, because 
Apple's solution for personal File Sharing in OS 9 was actually a 
bundled version of Shareway IP personal...) Then folders and volumes 
marked as shared are accessible on your 7.5 system as permitted in the 
Users and Groups control panel.

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Re: File Sharing won't start up on PB5300cs

[Robert Eye]

> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 14:28:07 -0800
> From: Clark Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: File Sharing won't start up on PB5300cs
>
> > At 3:37 PM -0600 2/22/2003, Robert Eye wrote:
> > I also went through Apple's suggestions on their Knowledge Base on 
> > file sharing a PB5300, but to no avail.
>
> The usual cause of this is a corrupt AppleShare PDS file on the 
> harddisk.  This is an invisible file at the root level of any shared 
> harddisk.  The cure is to use ResEdit or another utility to make the 
> file visible and then trash it.  Next time you startup FileSharing it 
> will create a new version of this file.  The AppleShare PDS file 
> contains all of the privileges for folders so trashing it will reset 
> them.
> -- 
> Clark Martin

Clark,

Thanks for the note.  I should have said I tried *almost* all of Apple's suggestions 
(of which yours was one).  :-)

I actually first tried a less invasive method that Apple recommends.  Here's what I 
did (from Knowledge Base article 11368):

"1. Open Stickies from the Apple Menu, open a new note (any note).
2. Type anything (as long as characters are there).
3. Select Export Text from the File Menu.
4. Name the file "AppleShare PDS" (capitalization not necessary, but the spelling and 
the space is important).
5. Save the file on the first (root) level of the Startup Drive.
6. A dialog box will come up asking if you want to replace the file? Yes, you want to 
replace it.

Note: If it does not prompt you to replace the file (step 6 above), then it didn't 
work. Check the file name and saving destination."

Result: worked like a charm!  File Sharing came right up.

Thanks again for your help!

Regards,

Bob Eye
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Re: File Sharing won't start up on PB5300cs

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At 3:37 PM -0600 2/22/2003, Robert Eye wrote:
>I'm tryning to figure out why I can *no longer* connect my iMac 
>(original Bondi) to my PB5300cs via ethernet.
>
>PB setup - MacOS 8.1 (just did a fresh install to see if that was 
>the problem - it doesn't appear to be), 40 MB RAM, GV Platinum Pro 
>modem/ethernet card, AppleTalk set to Alternate Ethernet and turned 
>On.
>
>I open the File Sharing control panel, set up a Network Identity, 
>and click on the Start button underneath  "File Sharing off" and 
>wait - and wait and wait. The folder icon has the network symbol 
>blinking on and off next to it, but file sharing never starts - I 
>hear HD activity for a little bt but then it stops (FWIW, the iMac 
>HD activity contiues until the Start/Cancel File Sharing button says 
>Stop, the the HD activity ceases). It just says "File Sharing 
>starting up" and will stay like that until the battery dies an hour 
>and a half later, if I let it go that long.
>
>The MAJOR pain about this is that it *used* to work.
>
>I can turn on file sharing on the iMac and connect to the PB that 
>way - the iMac's shared HD comes right up on the PB screen, and I 
>can transfer files back and forth, so I assume that the ethernet 
>connection is working ok.
>
>I also went through Apple's suggestions on their Knowledge Base on 
>file sharing a PB5300, but to no avail.


The usual cause of this is a corrupt AppleShare PDS file on the 
harddisk.  This is an invisible file at the root level of any shared 
harddisk.  The cure is to use ResEdit or another utility to make the 
file visible and then trash it.  Next time you startup FileSharing it 
will create a new version of this file.  The AppleShare PDS file 
contains all of the privileges for folders so trashing it will reset 
them.
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Re: file sharing...now what?

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>  >  [The first and last device should be terminated.]
>
>And, if the active termination is used, I believe the terminated
>devices should be powered up.

1] Maybe I'm missing something but with the PowerBook connected to a 
SCSI cable there isn't any possibility of additional SCSI devices in 
the chain because there is no "pass through" or "courtesy" SCSI 
connector on the PB, so it _will_ be the end of the chain because 
that's all it can be! Furthermore, my understanding is that the PB as 
a SCSI device in SDM is terminated. This has worked for my 540c. 
Adding a terminator between the SCSI chain and the PB might prevent 
signals from reaching the PB.

  2] Also, rather than buying another cable, find the switchable 
adaptor which allows you to use the same cable/connector/adapter for 
SCSI Disk Mode or for hanging SCSI devices off your PB. I bought one 
from PowerOn (available online but they happen to be local for me). 
That way you can connect any DB25 cable to the wonky rectangular PB 
connector and just flip a switch for either "SCSI" or "Dock" mode. 
Less than $20 and very handy if you don't want to schlep a closet 
full of cables and adapters around.

3] That said, I'm still not able to use the 1400 with a 2GB HD in 
SCSI Disk Mode w/o errors so I got into  networking using Ethernet. 
Transfer of data is not nearly as fast as SDM plus it seems to take 
forever for my 7500 to start up now. Also I'm learning a valuable 
lesson about software licences as QuicKeys4 refuses to load on the 
second machine to boot with the error message: "Duplicate serial 
number." Geeze QuicKeys, I just want to have my portable set up like 
my desk computer, and you expect me to buy another copy!? I don't 
think so! Grumble, mumble, corporate greed, mumble, grumble

BTW sorry if my previous post of my culls of the "SCSI Disk Mode vs. 
Large HDs" was a tad on the large side. I thought I pared it down to 
just the essentials, retaining author info, etc. but when I saw it in 
the digest it even struck me as a bit much.

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Re: file sharing...now what?

[Fran Dollinger]

Thanks for the details and yes, after further inspectionit is the 
wrong cable (18"). I was initially just trying to link the two so I 
could get a decent browser installed onto the 540c. Fortunately, I found 
my Stuffit Deluxe and was finally able to open the downloads taken from 
my 7300. As of this morning the 540c is running OS 8.1 using Netscape 
4.8 on a 'broadband' cable modem. Thanks for all of your help! Now , I'm 
off to find the right cable! I'd like to have all of my options covered!

Fran Dollinger

Donna Hood Pointer wrote:

>I'm positive that I did not use a terminator when I used my 520 in SCSI disk
>mode. I just used the proper cable. I have a suspicion that you have the
>regular SCSI device cable and not the one needed for SCSI disk mode. One has
>29 pins and the other has 30 pins, but I don't remember which is which. At
>the time I was using system 7.5, but I can't believe that makes any
>difference. You have to tell it what scsi number to use for itself when the
>PB is the SCSI device though. then you just plug it in with the cable
>  
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Re: file sharing...now what?

[Greg M]

One thing I forgot to mention in my last post about SCSI disk mode...

One persons setup may not require termination on the end of the SCSI
chain while another setup might, even with the exact same computers.
This can be due to the length of the SCSI cable connecting the two (or
more) devices. Termination is for the purpose of putting an effective
load on the end of the chain. Otherwise the signal in the cable can
bounce from one end to the other and interfere with itself. But, if the
cable is short enough this may be little problem. Also if it's physical
length is a particular multiple/fraction of the wavelength of the
signal in the line then there may be no need for termination. 

To put it another way, you may get by without terminating both ends of
a SCSI chain if cable lengths are just so, but it should always work to
terminate both ends. One problem that may seem to override this
statement comes when devices in the middle of the chain are unknowingly
terminated. In this case, impedances again become mismatched due to
termination in more places than just the two ends (source and load).

Also, it can work to terminate one end, and also somewhere in the
middle of the chain instead of the other end. But, this is only
possible because the cable lengths are arranged just right. Almost
impossible to calculate but trial and error my give workable results.

Greg

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Re: file sharing...now what?

[Greg M]

Two things to consider: 

The internal hard drive is not necessariy SCSI ID 0. They normally are
from the factory, but the only way to know for sure is to use some
utility to find out. Mt. Everything is the first one I go to but there
are many others.

The SCSI disk mode cable has to have 30 pins. If one of the corner pins
in the square connector is missing then it is NOT a SCSI disk mode
cable. But, just because the connector plug has 30 pins does not
guarantee that it is a SCSI disk mode cable. The 30th pin can be
present but not connected internally. This is something that is
possible, but I don't know if there have been any cables or adapters
actually manufactured with 30 pins, but have the one corner pin
disconnected.

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Re: file sharing...now what?

[Donna Hood Pointer]

I'm positive that I did not use a terminator when I used my 520 in SCSI disk
mode. I just used the proper cable. I have a suspicion that you have the
regular SCSI device cable and not the one needed for SCSI disk mode. One has
29 pins and the other has 30 pins, but I don't remember which is which. At
the time I was using system 7.5, but I can't believe that makes any
difference. You have to tell it what scsi number to use for itself when the
PB is the SCSI device though. then you just plug it in with the cable

Here's what the manual says:
1. Choose Control Panels
2. Open the PB Setup control panel
3. In the SCSI disk mode ID sention of the CP, click the ID number you want
to assign
[My comment: OBVIOUSLY, this number cannot be zero (which is the internal
drive) or a number used by any other SCSI device}
4. Close the PB setup CP
TURN OFF the powerbook by choosing Shut Down from the Special menu
6. Shut down the computer you are connecting to, and turn off other devices
in the SCSI chain.
7. Connect the PB to the other computer or, if there are already devices
attached, to the END OF THE SCSI CHAIN. Warning: Always shut down the PB
before connecting of disconnecting the SCSI adapter cable.
8. Turn on the PB by pressing the power button. After a few seconds a SCSI
icon appears on the screen [of the PB} showing the ID number your assigned
in step 3. Warning: If you do not see the SCSI icon, and the computer either
starts normally or displays an error message, choose Shut Down (if you can)
and then immediately disconnect your computer from the SCSI chain. If you
can't choose Shut Down, try pressing the power button. If you cannot shut
down your PB, you should disconnect the cable anyway, or you may lose
information. then go back and repeat steps 6 through 8.
9. turn on the other SCSI devices in the chain, if any.
10. turn on the other computer. the PB appears as a hard disk icon on the
screen of the computer you connected it to. You can now transfer and use
files as if the PB were an external disk drive.

My comment: YOU MUST HAVE THE PROPER CABLE. It is called the Apple HDI-30
SCSI Disk Adapter.


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> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (PowerBooks)
> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 15:31:23 -0500
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (PowerBooks)
> Subject: PowerBooks Digest #1072
> 
> Re: file sharing...now what?
> 
> My badfound the section that talks about termination. Unfortunately,
> I haven't a terminator for DB-25. I'm off to eBay again, I guess!  I'll
> be back with more questions in a week or so.
> Thanks,
> Fran
> 
> Fabian Fang wrote:
> 
>> On Saturday, Nov 09, 2002, at 04:55PM, Fran Dollinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Ok, I have the HDI-30 to DB-25 cable to hook my 540c to my 7300. I went
>>>> to the Apple Manual site and read the process to do the Disk Mode setup,
>>>> tried it out and got nada. The SCSI symbol that is suppose to come up on
>>>> the 540c screen did not appear, but no error came up eitherjust
>>>> blank grey screen. Any speculations or extra help appreciated!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> To expand on this.Yes, I have the right cable (the dark one) There was
>>> no mention of 'termination' in the manual that I read...I may be blind,
>>> though...
>>> I did go through the Powerbook Setup and it is set to SCSI ID#2.
>>> Do I need to disable the Apple CD Player? The manual mentioned disabling any
>>> other SCSI devices...
>>> Thanks,
>>> Fran
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> I believe that the "SCSI Disk Mode" section in User Guides for such
>> PowerBooks state that the PowerBook should be placed at the END of the SCSI
>> chain, and that all other SCSI devices between the two computers should be
>> turned ON.


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Re: file sharing...now what?

[Fran Dollinger]

My badfound the section that talks about termination. Unfortunately, 
I haven't a terminator for DB-25. I'm off to eBay again, I guess!  I'll 
be back with more questions in a week or so.
Thanks,
Fran

Fabian Fang wrote:

>On Saturday, Nov 09, 2002, at 04:55PM, Fran Dollinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>
>>>Ok, I have the HDI-30 to DB-25 cable to hook my 540c to my 7300. I went 
>>>to the Apple Manual site and read the process to do the Disk Mode setup, 
>>>tried it out and got nada. The SCSI symbol that is suppose to come up on 
>>>the 540c screen did not appear, but no error came up eitherjust 
>>>blank grey screen. Any speculations or extra help appreciated! 
>>>  
>>>
>>To expand on this.Yes, I have the right cable (the dark one) There was no 
>mention of 'termination' in the manual that I read...I may be blind, though...
>>I did go through the Powerbook Setup and it is set to SCSI ID#2.
>>Do I need to disable the Apple CD Player? The manual mentioned disabling any other 
>SCSI devices...
>>Thanks,
>>Fran
>>
>>
>
>I believe that the "SCSI Disk Mode" section in User Guides for such PowerBooks state 
>that the PowerBook should be placed at the END of the SCSI chain, and that all other 
>SCSI devices between the two computers should be turned ON.
>
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Re: file sharing...now what?

[Fran Dollinger]

Here's the link to the Manual I was using:

http://manuals.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Manuals/powerbooks/0304451APB520540CGS.PDF

Line 6 & 7 talk about the other SCSI devices and the termination.

I have nothing, other than the keyboard & monitor attached to the 7300 
and nothing attached to the 540c.

Any other ideas or suggestions?
Thanks,
Fran  


Fabian Fang wrote:

>On Saturday, Nov 09, 2002, at 04:55PM, Fran Dollinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>
>>>Ok, I have the HDI-30 to DB-25 cable to hook my 540c to my 7300. I went 
>>>to the Apple Manual site and read the process to do the Disk Mode setup, 
>>>tried it out and got nada. The SCSI symbol that is suppose to come up on 
>>>the 540c screen did not appear, but no error came up eitherjust 
>>>blank grey screen. Any speculations or extra help appreciated! 
>>>  
>>>
>>To expand on this.Yes, I have the right cable (the dark one) There was no 
>mention of 'termination' in the manual that I read...I may be blind, though...
>>I did go through the Powerbook Setup and it is set to SCSI ID#2.
>>Do I need to disable the Apple CD Player? The manual mentioned disabling any other 
>SCSI devices...
>>Thanks,
>>Fran
>>
>>
>
>I believe that the "SCSI Disk Mode" section in User Guides for such PowerBooks state 
>that the PowerBook should be placed at the END of the SCSI chain, and that all other 
>SCSI devices between the two computers should be turned ON.
>
>  
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Re: file sharing...now what?

[Fabian Fang]

On Saturday, Nov 09, 2002, at 04:55PM, Fran Dollinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hi all,
>>
>>Ok, I have the HDI-30 to DB-25 cable to hook my 540c to my 7300. I went 
>>to the Apple Manual site and read the process to do the Disk Mode setup, 
>>tried it out and got nada. The SCSI symbol that is suppose to come up on 
>>the 540c screen did not appear, but no error came up eitherjust 
>>blank grey screen. Any speculations or extra help appreciated! 
>
>To expand on this.Yes, I have the right cable (the dark one) There was no mention 
>of 'termination' in the manual that I read...I may be blind, though...
>I did go through the Powerbook Setup and it is set to SCSI ID#2.
>Do I need to disable the Apple CD Player? The manual mentioned disabling any other 
>SCSI devices...
>Thanks,
>Fran

I believe that the "SCSI Disk Mode" section in User Guides for such PowerBooks state 
that the PowerBook should be placed at the END of the SCSI chain, and that all other 
SCSI devices between the two computers should be turned ON.

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Re: file sharing...now what?

[Fran Dollinger]

Hi all,
>
>Ok, I have the HDI-30 to DB-25 cable to hook my 540c to my 7300. I went 
>to the Apple Manual site and read the process to do the Disk Mode setup, 
>tried it out and got nada. The SCSI symbol that is suppose to come up on 
>the 540c screen did not appear, but no error came up eitherjust 
>blank grey screen. Any speculations or extra help appreciated! 

To expand on this.Yes, I have the right cable (the dark one) There was no mention 
of 'termination' in the manual that I read...I may be blind, though...
I did go through the Powerbook Setup and it is set to SCSI ID#2.
Do I need to disable the Apple CD Player? The manual mentioned disabling any other 
SCSI devices...
Thanks,
Fran



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Re: file sharing...now what?

[KADaggett]

My Reply follows quote. On 09/11/2002 07:16 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
said:  

>From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fran Dollinger)
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>Hi all,
>
>Ok, I have the HDI-30 to DB-25 cable to hook my 540c to my 7300. I went 
>to the Apple Manual site and read the process to do the Disk Mode setup, 
>tried it out and got nada. The SCSI symbol that is suppose to come up on 
>the 540c screen did not appear, but no error came up eitherjust 
>blank grey screen. Any speculations or extra help appreciated!
-
Do you have the right cable? You need the "dark colored" SCSI Disk Mode 
cable, not the usual grey one.

Ken

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Re: File sharing.... (PowerBooks Digest #1066)

[tyler3rd]

on Sunday, November 3, 2002, Fran Dollinger wrote,

>Hey, do you know what I'd need to hook up an ext. CDRW or 
>if it's even possible?
>I figured I could keep most of my misc. junk off of the HD that way...

My understanding is that almost all CD burning via SCSI must be done with 
a Mac that has SCSI Manager 4.3.  Our 540s are not SCSI Manager 4.3 
compliant so I've never even tried it.  On the other hand, I'd love to be 
proven wrong.

Tyler Williams

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Re: 190cs/6320 saga (was Re: File Sharing....)

[Dan K]

I second the motion, use filesharing to install from a mounted CD from
the 6320. Even if you can locate an unused set of 8.1 floppies, at this
point you'd stand a very good chance of getting at least one dud in the
lot. Those floppies aren't exactly archival quality media, and it's been
a long time since they were produced.

You've tried?:
   . . . replacing the filesharing bits on the 8.1 Mac with the
filesharing items the 9.1 Mac?
   . . . deleting/replacing the invisible "AppleShare PDS" files on the
8.1 Mac's volume(s)?
Corrupted AS PDS files can cause the problem you
describe.

Also, delete any filesharing prefs. Easiest way to replace/delete
troublesome preferences is to drag the Prefs folder to the desktop, then
restart. A new Prefs folder will be created by  the system and will fill
with new prefs for everything that gets used, including filesharing
stuff. Once you get it working, make a BU copy of the old and new Prefs
folders, then drag (all or some of) the contents of the 'new' folder into
the 'old' prefs folder, replacing all the same-named items. Then drop the
'old' Prefs folder (now with a bunch of new prefs) back into the System
folder to replace the 'new' Prefs Ÿ.

BTW, I'd be pleased to extract the filesharing components from the CD's
8.1 installer tome and put them up somewhere for your DL convenience,
just say the word. (Listnannies: I'll not publish the address here, and
the fellow obviously has the right to the files, just hasn't a complete
set of media - DK {am I paranoid or what?})

Dan K

On 11/4/02 Andrew Kershaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>James,
>
>If you can browse the 6320's drive on your 190cs, you can also use
>your 190cs to view CDs mounted in the 6320 via AppleTalk.  (Er, your
>6320 does have a CD-ROM drive, doesn't it?)
>
>Long and short - You don't have to find 8.1 on floppies.  Get the CD,
>stick it in your 6320, share it with your 190cs, and install 8.1 over
>AppleTalk onto the 190cs.
snip
>
>Peace,
>Drew

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Re: 190cs/6320 saga (was Re: File Sharing....)

[vicki]

on 4/11/02 4:21 pm, Andrew Kershaw at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> James,
> 
> If you can browse the 6320's drive on your 190cs, you can also use
> your 190cs to view CDs mounted in the 6320 via AppleTalk.  (Er, your
> 6320 does have a CD-ROM drive, doesn't it?)
> 
> Long and short - You don't have to find 8.1 on floppies.  Get the CD,
> stick it in your 6320, share it with your 190cs, and install 8.1 over
> AppleTalk onto the 190cs.  Easy-peasy.  Heck, I've done that w/ 8.5 on
> my 5300.  It took a few hours, but it worked.
> 
> Dog slow, but it will work and save you the headache of 1st tracking
> down 8.1 floppies, then 2nd installing 8.1 via floppy (that's gotta be
> a nightmare!).
> 
> Alternatively, get the PowerBook SCSI adapter, hook your book up in
> SCSI disk mode, and install 8.1 via the 6320.  That would be super
> easy, and the adapter's on eBay all the time.  And if you ask nicely,
> I'll bet someone on LEM-swap will give you a deal.
> 
> So unless you have another reason for wanting the floppies, my advice
> would be to give up on that avenue.  There are easier, faster methods.
> 
> Peace,
> Drew 
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> 
Hi quick question on the super easy scsi disk mode what about bus errors
when you try to start the powerbook and if i am the only mac user getting
them where am i going wrong.

an even easier way is to get a hdd adapter to convert the 2.5 hdd to 3.5 hdd
they are about 5 $ on ebay and the whole install is twice as quick .

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Re: file sharing....

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In a message dated 11/3/02 3:47:55 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Hi,
>  
>  Just got a great deal on a PB 540c, 1gig, 40mg RAM, PPC upgraded, 
>  running OS 8.1. All the core programs were removed before the auction 
>  (not eBay or online). No CDROM. I haven't been able to get a small 
>  enough browser to put on it...

How about using the Powerbook in SCSI Disk Mode to install an internet app on 
your 540c? With 1Gig of HD space U should have no problem copying the install 
program(s) to the 540c's HD and installing...

Craig W.

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Re: File sharing....

[victoria brandon]

on 11/3/02 9:27 PM, Fran Dollinger at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Back atchya! Hey, do you know what I'd need to hook up an ext. CDRW or
> if it's even possible?
> I figured I could keep most of my misc. junk off of the HD that way...
> Thanks,


With an adapter cable you can use a SCSI CDRW -- the SCSI ports on PB's are
much smaller than the usual kind and shaped entirely differently, hence the
need for adaptation.  Some cables have a switch which permits hooking up the
laptop to a desk Mac in SCSI disk mode as well.  $20 or thereabouts on eBay;
the single purpose cables run $5-$8 less.

Best,
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190cs/6320 saga (was Re: File Sharing....)

[Andrew Kershaw]

James,

If you can browse the 6320's drive on your 190cs, you can also use 
your 190cs to view CDs mounted in the 6320 via AppleTalk.  (Er, your 
6320 does have a CD-ROM drive, doesn't it?)  

Long and short - You don't have to find 8.1 on floppies.  Get the CD, 
stick it in your 6320, share it with your 190cs, and install 8.1 over 
AppleTalk onto the 190cs.  Easy-peasy.  Heck, I've done that w/ 8.5 on 
my 5300.  It took a few hours, but it worked.

Dog slow, but it will work and save you the headache of 1st tracking 
down 8.1 floppies, then 2nd installing 8.1 via floppy (that's gotta be 
a nightmare!).

Alternatively, get the PowerBook SCSI adapter, hook your book up in 
SCSI disk mode, and install 8.1 via the 6320.  That would be super 
easy, and the adapter's on eBay all the time.  And if you ask nicely, 
I'll bet someone on LEM-swap will give you a deal.

So unless you have another reason for wanting the floppies, my advice 
would be to give up on that avenue.  There are easier, faster methods.

Peace,
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Re: File sharing....

[Fran Dollinger]

Back atchya! Hey, do you know what I'd need to hook up an ext. CDRW or 
if it's even possible?
I figured I could keep most of my misc. junk off of the HD that way...
Thanks,

Fran

James Greenidge wrote:

>>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 13:48:14 -0700
>>From: Fran Dollinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: file sharing
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Just got a great deal on a PB 540c, 1gig, 40mg RAM, PPC upgraded,
>>running OS 8.1. All the core programs were removed before the auction
>>(not eBay or online). No CDROM. I haven't been able to get a small
>>enough browser to put on it...well, I have Internet Valet w/ Mosaic on
>>it but it would not browse, it would however retrieve mail, go figure.
>>Anyway, I thought, ok, I'll hook the PB to my G3 upgraded 7300 with a
>>printer cable (am I wrong here?) and tried out file sharing. I get all
>>the way to the point of going into the Chooser to 'select the file
>>server' and nothing is showing in the box.I've gone to the
>>threemacs.com site and followed all of the directions...please email me
>>off list with any help, Thanks,  Fran
>>
>>
>
>My sympathies, Fran:
>
>   I've long had a related problem trying to file share between 
>my OS 8.1 PB 190cs  (which came on an incomplete set of floppies when 
>I inherited it) and my OS 9.1 6320. What's maddening is I'm actually 
>able to file share from  my PB 190 TO my 6320 but not visa versa. In 
>other words, I get my 6320's icons appearing and functional on my PB 
>190's screen but all I get on my 6320's Chooser when I stroke it up 
>is "This Server IS Not Ready. Try Again." Though I should count my 
>blessings being able to file share at all for 6320 Synk back-up 
>purposes since my dog of a Orb Drive died, I'd like the assurance of 
>a two-way file share hook-up via printer port (even though it's slow 
>as molasses in January).
>   I suspect that something minor and arcane is missing in my OS 
>8.1 set-up which was long lost with the original set of OS 8.1 
>floppies. That's why I'm looking high and lower for a dealer who 
>handles a _Complete_ set of OS 8.1 floppies.
>
>   Good Luck! I know the headaches!
>
>   JimWG
>
>  
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Re: File sharing....

[James Greenidge]

>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 13:48:14 -0700
>From: Fran Dollinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: file sharing
>
>Hi,
>
>Just got a great deal on a PB 540c, 1gig, 40mg RAM, PPC upgraded,
>running OS 8.1. All the core programs were removed before the auction
>(not eBay or online). No CDROM. I haven't been able to get a small
>enough browser to put on it...well, I have Internet Valet w/ Mosaic on
>it but it would not browse, it would however retrieve mail, go figure.
>Anyway, I thought, ok, I'll hook the PB to my G3 upgraded 7300 with a
>printer cable (am I wrong here?) and tried out file sharing. I get all
>the way to the point of going into the Chooser to 'select the file
>server' and nothing is showing in the box.I've gone to the
>threemacs.com site and followed all of the directions...please email me
>off list with any help, Thanks,  Fran

My sympathies, Fran:

I've long had a related problem trying to file share between 
my OS 8.1 PB 190cs  (which came on an incomplete set of floppies when 
I inherited it) and my OS 9.1 6320. What's maddening is I'm actually 
able to file share from  my PB 190 TO my 6320 but not visa versa. In 
other words, I get my 6320's icons appearing and functional on my PB 
190's screen but all I get on my 6320's Chooser when I stroke it up 
is "This Server IS Not Ready. Try Again." Though I should count my 
blessings being able to file share at all for 6320 Synk back-up 
purposes since my dog of a Orb Drive died, I'd like the assurance of 
a two-way file share hook-up via printer port (even though it's slow 
as molasses in January).
I suspect that something minor and arcane is missing in my OS 
8.1 set-up which was long lost with the original set of OS 8.1 
floppies. That's why I'm looking high and lower for a dealer who 
handles a _Complete_ set of OS 8.1 floppies.

Good Luck! I know the headaches!

JimWG

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Re: file sharing....

[Fran Dollinger]

Yeah, it's just called sharing... in the OS 8.1 menu. Went there did 
that and still the HD was a no show in the Chooser. But I think you may 
have something about Appletalk and the Printer using the same 
port..I'll check that out tomorrow. Also, someone mentioned the 
PRAM being bad could cause a problem.
Thanks for the help!!

Fran

Nils Mueller-Scheessel wrote:

>At 15:30 Uhr -0500 03.11.2002, Fran wrote:
>  
>
>>Anyway, I thought, ok, I'll hook the PB to my G3 upgraded 7300 with a
>>printer cable (am I wrong here?) and tried out file sharing. I get all
>>the way to the point of going into the Chooser to 'select the file
>>server' and nothing is showing in the box.I've gone to the
>>threemacs.com site and followed all of the directions...please email me
>>off list with any help, Thanks,  Fran
>>
>>
>
>Have you turned on "used jointly" (or something like that; it is 
>called "Gemeinschaftlich nutzen" in the German localized system; it 
>is the second item of "Get info") for your hard disk in question? 
>Otherwise it will not show up in the Chooser. Another point to 
>consider: you have to make sure that AppleTalk and the printer do not 
>use the same port.
>Hope this helps.
>
>Nils
>
>  
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Re: file sharing....

[Nils Mueller-Scheessel]

At 15:30 Uhr -0500 03.11.2002, Fran wrote:
>Anyway, I thought, ok, I'll hook the PB to my G3 upgraded 7300 with a
>printer cable (am I wrong here?) and tried out file sharing. I get all
>the way to the point of going into the Chooser to 'select the file
>server' and nothing is showing in the box.I've gone to the
>threemacs.com site and followed all of the directions...please email me
>off list with any help, Thanks,  Fran

Have you turned on "used jointly" (or something like that; it is 
called "Gemeinschaftlich nutzen" in the German localized system; it 
is the second item of "Get info") for your hard disk in question? 
Otherwise it will not show up in the Chooser. Another point to 
consider: you have to make sure that AppleTalk and the printer do not 
use the same port.
Hope this helps.

Nils

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