Re(2): Who White Lady?
After e-mail exchange with Jerome, I must correct myself: Eventhough White Lady is a nice name, that is something that seems to be the past as of version 4.0. What I am witnessing with my database is not white lady but something else, some corrupted message or something similar, not White Lady... A Blonde Lady or a Brunette Lady? :-) Best regards, Sead David, Better you don't know her. :-) It's a bug that prevents from indexing your message database correctly, thus interfering with search function. Some people never see it, some people can get rid of it and some (like myself) can't. I see it a major annoyance, but not something brutal that you should be afraid for your messages being eaten by an alien lady or something. It's just you can;t index messages after she appears and these messages are then skipped while performing search filter. Hope this comes close to explaining it in layman terms. Best regards, Sead Who is this While Lady Sead is having trouble with. How can I recognise her and what trouble does she cause? -- david.gordon
Re: PM and Little Snitch
Chris Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm not sure if this is a PM problem. for some reason Little Snitch will not remember to allow PM sending mail via SMTP. Even though I allow it forever, after quitting PM it forgets and asks again. It only does this with sending Mail and not with the POP3 port. I've trashed Snitch's prefs but it still persists. did you check in snitch that you allowed PM forever *and for any server*? (you can see this on the snitch control panel rather than trashing all its prefs file) -- remove .listes and add a dot after fh please enlevez .listes et ajoutez un point après fh
Re(2): Is there a script or something?
Interesting idea but have you spent much time dealing with IT departments in big companies? It is easier to deal with the duplicated emails :) Seriously, getting them to make a change to an Exchange server is difficult. -- Larry S. Samberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] VM/Fax: 270-514-0557 Things that can't go on forever, don't Herbert Stein On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 23:26:17 +0800 Andrew Karantzis wrote: Greetings... This wont solve your problem from a powermail point of view, but have you thought about asking your IT boffins to add masquerade as DOMAIN B to your mail server. i.e The mail server changes all out going emails from Domain A to Domain B. Regards AK Andrew Karantzis Diverse Engineer Mobile: 0411 428 259 DiversIT Pty Ltd Telephone : (08) 9486 1244 email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] 58 Ord Streetweb : http://www.diversit.com.au West Perth 6005 Breathing life into IT IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER WARNING: The information contained within this email and/or associated attachments may be private and confidential. This email should not be read, disclosed, retransmitted, copied or distributed unless you are authorised to do so. If you are not the intended recipient of this email or if this email has been transmitted to you in error, please notify us immediately by return email or by email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] DiversIT Pty Ltd does not represent, warrant or guarantee that this email and/or any associated attachments are free from viruses and/or malicious content or other defects. The email and/or any associated attachments are transmitted, and may only be used, on the provision that the recipient, intended or otherwise, assumes all responsibility for any loss, damage or consequence resulting directly or indirectly from the use of the email and/or associated attachments. The liability of DiversIT Pty Ltd is limited in any event to either the retransmission of the email and/or associated attachments or the cost of having the email retransmitted in full.
Re: Is there a script or something?
Greetings... This wont solve your problem from a powermail point of view, but have you thought about asking your IT boffins to add masquerade as DOMAIN B to your mail server. i.e The mail server changes all out going emails from Domain A to Domain B. Regards AK Andrew Karantzis Diverse Engineer Mobile: 0411 428 259 DiversIT Pty Ltd Telephone : (08) 9486 1244 email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] 58 Ord Streetweb : http://www.diversit.com.au West Perth 6005 Breathing life into IT IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER WARNING: The information contained within this email and/or associated attachments may be private and confidential. This email should not be read, disclosed, retransmitted, copied or distributed unless you are authorised to do so. If you are not the intended recipient of this email or if this email has been transmitted to you in error, please notify us immediately by return email or by email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] DiversIT Pty Ltd does not represent, warrant or guarantee that this email and/or any associated attachments are free from viruses and/or malicious content or other defects. The email and/or any associated attachments are transmitted, and may only be used, on the provision that the recipient, intended or otherwise, assumes all responsibility for any loss, damage or consequence resulting directly or indirectly from the use of the email and/or associated attachments. The liability of DiversIT Pty Ltd is limited in any event to either the retransmission of the email and/or associated attachments or the cost of having the email retransmitted in full.
Re(2): Is there a script or something?
You mean instead of changing the email address? I tried that, but it creates other types of confusion. -- Larry S. Samberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] VM/Fax: 270-514-0557 On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 08:05:58 -0700 Andy Fragen wrote: *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* Larry, Does it make a difference if you add a Reply-To: address in the Account Setup? -- Andy Fragen On Thu, Jun 3, 2004, Larry Samberg said: When I do a reply, the reply is FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED] but since this doesn't match [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] becomes one of the entries in the TO field. As a result all subsequent emails in the the exchange come to me doubled. I can obviously filter out the emails that come from me, but not the emails that come from others. It's driving me crazy ... I already get over a hundred emails a day this just makes it worse. Are there any clever solutions to this?
Re: Is there a script or something?
*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* Larry, Does it make a difference if you add a Reply-To: address in the Account Setup? -- Andy Fragen On Thu, Jun 3, 2004, Larry Samberg said: When I do a reply, the reply is FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED] but since this doesn't match [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] becomes one of the entries in the TO field. As a result all subsequent emails in the the exchange come to me doubled. I can obviously filter out the emails that come from me, but not the emails that come from others. It's driving me crazy ... I already get over a hundred emails a day this just makes it worse. Are there any clever solutions to this?
Re: How big is your database?
*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro*
Jim,
Here's a script to let you know.
applescript
property preMsg : You currently have: return
property postcC : Message folders
property postfC : Message Filters
property postclC : Text Clippings
property postsigC : Signatures
property postMsgs : Messages
property ret : return
property bttnList : {Thanks, Put on Clipboard}
property defBttn : Put on Clipboard
to concatenateData(cCnt, fCnt, clCnt, sigCnt, ctMsg)
return (preMsg ctMsg postMsgs ret cCnt postcC ret fCnt
postfC ret clCnt postclC ret sigCnt postsigC)
end concatenateData
to displayTotals(statsTxt)
set the dialogBttn to the button returned of (display dialog statsTxt
buttons bttnList default button 2)
if the dialogBttn is the defBttn then
set the clipboard to the statsTxt
beep
end if
end displayTotals
tell application PowerMail
set the containerCnt to count message container
repeat with i from 1 to containerCnt
set subContainerCnt to count message containers of message
container i
set containerCnt to containerCnt + subContainerCnt
end repeat
set the filterCnt to count filters
set the clipCnt to count text clippings
set the sigCnt to count text signatures
set ctMsg to 0
repeat with acontainer in every message container
set ctMsg to ctMsg + (my count_messages(acontainer))
end repeat
set the statsTxt to my concatenateData(containerCnt, filterCnt, clipCnt,
sigCnt, ctMsg)
my displayTotals(the statsTxt)
end tell
-- The above will count your PowerMail; message folders, filters, text
clippings
-- and the text signatures and display the information in a dialog.
-- The dialog will give you an option to put the entire results
-- onto the clipboard.
(* this recursive function receives a message container (folder). It first
calls itself for every sub-container of the input container, summing up
the number of messages stored in them, and last, adds the number of
messages in the input container itself.
*)
to count_messages(input_container)
tell application PowerMail
set c to 0
repeat with bcontainer in every message container in
input_container
set c to c + (my count_messages(bcontainer))
end repeat
set c to c + (number of messages in input_container)
return c
end tell
end count_messages
/applescript
--
Andy Fragen
On Thu, Jun 3, 2004, Jim Pistrang said:
I've looked, and it must be obvious, but...where do I see the number of
messages in my database?
Re: Is there a script or something?
Re: Who White Lady?
Who is this While Lady Sead is having trouble with. How can I recognise her and what trouble does she cause? It's a bug that prevents from indexing your message database correctly, thus interfering with search function. Some people never see it, some people can get rid of it and some (like myself) can't. I see it a major annoyance, but not something brutal that you should be afraid for your messages being eaten by an alien lady or something. It's just you can;t index messages after she appears and these messages are then skipped while performing search filter. Old, but this snippet of collected wisdom from Tim's PowerMail FAQ (following). If you did all four options from the PowerMail first aid dialog at startup, rebuilding the index from the File Database menu is an ever-so-slightly different process. It cures the Database Error Occurred - Class=DB, what=7, when=9 error which many people had whereas the startup/first aid would not. Last resort, check out Ben Kennedy's PowerMail Salvage http:// www.zygoat.ca/products/pmsalvage/. If you can get PowerMail's language encoding sorted out to your satisfaction, and your old database out of the tendrils of the LADY, PowerMail 5 may just work for you! Chris -- http://home.hpo.net/timm/PowerMailFAQ.html 11.3 Clean your room, 'cause here comes the LADY! Every now and then a certain error pops up. It has come to be called the LADY error (perhaps LADYbug would be better?) after the cryptic message that PM displays when it arrives. This error has, so far, only manifested when performing a search. It doesn't seem to do any damage, but it does prevent any kind of searching until you deal with her. So, sit back and take notes, 'cause you're about to be schooled in the proper way of treating a LADY. 1. Restart PowerMail. This has worked for others, it might work for you 2. Restart your computer. If this is too much of a hassle try one/ some of the following steps 3. Restart PowerMail. But this time, hold the option- command keys as it starts. This will bring PowerMail's First Aid window up (didn't know PowerMail could do that? Well, why do you think I'm here?? \ (^ _ ^) / ). Select some of the choices presented to you. Since this is a LADY, she has a certain affinity for the top four check boxes. Use them all, use only one. A LADY can be fickle... 4. Compact your database. From File - Database, select Compact Database. This could take a while for large databases 5. Rebuild/Update your Indices. From File - Database, select the appropriate measure. This may also take a lot of time. Note, that while my dictionary actually says it is acceptable to spell the plural form of Index as Indexes (as PowerMail does) I simply cannot bring myself to do it. Maybe it's a good thing PowerMail doesn't have a built- in spellchecker...
Is there a script or something?
I have had this problem before and haven't seen any appropriate solutions. I was wondering if there was some way to script this. Basically, I need to remove somebody from the TO list on outgoing mail. Here's the scenario. My company was recently acquired by another company. So I have a new email address. Instead of, say, [EMAIL PROTECTED] it is now [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have changed my email account definition to say that I am [EMAIL PROTECTED] The problem is that until the mail systems are merged (several months) B actually forwards all of the mail to the A server. So, incoming mail looks like it is addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I do a reply, the reply is FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED] but since this doesn't match [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] becomes one of the entries in the TO field. As a result all subsequent emails in the the exchange come to me doubled. I can obviously filter out the emails that come from me, but not the emails that come from others. It's driving me crazy ... I already get over a hundred emails a day this just makes it worse. Are there any clever solutions to this? Thanks /lss -- Larry S. Samberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] VM/Fax: 270-514-0557 Life has taught us that love does not consist in gazing at each other, but in looking outward together in the same direction. --Antoine de Saint-Exupery
Re(3): Old story goes on...
Marcus, I deleted index file from finder and build a new one - nothing changes, still tapping in place, no solution on sight. :-( Best regards, Sead Marcus, I wasn't deleting index file as I think that rebuilding index from alt- apple startup menu should do that and create new index file. But, I will try this as well. Who knows? Thanks! Best regards, Sead
Re: How big is your database?
Jim Pistrang wrote: I've looked, and it must be obvious, but...where do I see the number of messages in my database? I don't think there is an abvious way. The way I do it is: Find [in local mail boxes] [Reception date] [after] [01.01.1990] The search is fast, and the search result window shows the number of found (=all) messages on the left side of the vertical separator. I have 116,166 messages currently in my database, btw. Regards, Christian.
Re(2): How big is your database?
I suspect that PM's search capabilities require a single database, but I'm not sure. I do think that PM's search is way better than anything else out there, if so this is a big argument in favor of a single database. You can only have one database per user environment. Search is one of the major assets (combined with ability to handle really large message databases) of PM. Thus experiencing problems with indexing is even more frustrating. Best regards, Sead
Re: Who White Lady?
David, Better you don't know her. :-) It's a bug that prevents from indexing your message database correctly, thus interfering with search function. Some people never see it, some people can get rid of it and some (like myself) can't. I see it a major annoyance, but not something brutal that you should be afraid for your messages being eaten by an alien lady or something. It's just you can;t index messages after she appears and these messages are then skipped while performing search filter. Hope this comes close to explaining it in layman terms. Best regards, Sead Who is this While Lady Sead is having trouble with. How can I recognise her and what trouble does she cause? -- david.gordon
Re(2): Old story goes on...
Marcus, I wasn't deleting index file as I think that rebuilding index from alt- apple startup menu should do that and create new index file. But, I will try this as well. Who knows? Thanks! Best regards, Sead On Thursday, 3 June 2004, Sead, [EMAIL PROTECTED], thoughtfully composed the following: I also had the white Lady bug, but it's gone since a long time, at least it didn't appear anymore since I use PM5. So, what I would suggest is doing a rebuild of the Indexes. As far as I understood this bug, it came from Apples Search engine and that one is not used anymore. You must be lucky! After reading your reply, naturally I did once again index rebuild and old story goes on...: I get Memory Error (class:std, what=1, when=100) I didn't get impression PowerMail was using Apple search engine, instead I thought it used FoxTrot. But, I can be wrong. Anyway, in my case PM5 shows exactly the same behavior as PM3 and PM4 in terms of white lady... I will try later on to do again low level database rebuild and then to rebuild indexes as the last resort... I will report on the result. Sorry if you've already done this, but have you tried throwing the old Message Database index file away and rebuilding the index from scratch? I've never had this problem, but I vaguely recall reading that this method helped. HTH, Marcus -- Marcus Jarrett, Adelaide, South Australia. How I wish that somewhere there existed an island for those who are wise and of goodwill! In such a place even I would be an ardent patriot. -Albert Einstein
Re: How big is your database?
Hi david, I noticed my database contains just over 39,000 messages. Is that a lot? How big is yours? [ Pardon the juvenile expression... ;) ] I've looked, and it must be obvious, but...where do I see the number of messages in my database? I was storing all my old messages (foldered up into years) in a separate user database. After my recent export back from v5 via Mail I've got everything in a single database. I don't want to start a single vs multiple mailbox argument but... Why is the PM single database better than the Mail separate file per mail folder? I suspect that PM's search capabilities require a single database, but I'm not sure. I do think that PM's search is way better than anything else out there, if so this is a big argument in favor of a single database. Jim -- Jim Pistrang JP Computer Resources 413-256-4569 http://users.crocker.com/~pistrang
How big is your database?
I noticed my database contains just over 39,000 messages. Is that a lot? How big is yours? [ Pardon the juvenile expression... ;) ] I was storing all my old messages (foldered up into years) in a separate user database. After my recent export back from v5 via Mail I've got everything in a single database. I don't want to start a single vs multiple mailbox argument but... Why is the PM single database better than the Mail separate file per mail folder? -- david.gordon
Who White Lady?
Who is this While Lady Sead is having trouble with. How can I recognise her and what trouble does she cause? -- david.gordon
Re(3): Old story goes on...
Hi again, Just to report that after low level database rebuilt and later first four options ticked in alt-apple startup, message count differed for 54 messages (not sure of they were deleted with low level rebuild or it's just plain counting error), however, White Lady is still there... Best regards, Sead
Re(2): Old story goes on...
Hi Mathias, Thanks for your reply. Bok ;-) :-) I also had the white Lady bug, but it's gone since a long time, at least it didn't appear anymore since I use PM5. So, what I would suggest is doing a rebuild of the Indexes. As far as I understood this bug, it came from Apples Search engine and that one is not used anymore. You must be lucky! After reading your reply, naturally I did once again index rebuild and old story goes on...: I get Memory Error (class:std, what=1, when=100) I didn't get impression PowerMail was using Apple search engine, instead I thought it used FoxTrot. But, I can be wrong. Anyway, in my case PM5 shows exactly the same behavior as PM3 and PM4 in terms of white lady... I will try later on to do again low level database rebuild and then to rebuild indexes as the last resort... I will report on the result. It may be of relevance to point out that my mail database is rather large - it's in excess of 13.000 messages (I did erase few thousands first time I experienced white lady, hoping that reducing database size would help) Regarding your accents, my wife is Croatian and communicating with people in Croatia with PM and she didn't told me about any problems. Normal people are ascends aware and don't use ascends in their e-mail communication. It's become a sort of good manners. So, those who've been using e-mail for years never use ascends around here. So, that can't make any problems. However, more and more people are nowadays starting using ascends... In my case, this creates havoc with PM. You have a new feature in PM5 for received messages: you can change the encoding. This you find under the message menu. The other thing you can do is setting messages with unknown encoding to win1250 under the preferences and the encoding tab. Tried all sorts yesterday before making the post - I harassed a friend whole morning yesterday, experimenting with sending and receiving mails with different encoding (of course, I was experimenting with various Latin code pages and Unicode options, no Arabic or Hebrew or Japanese or Chinese) with varying results but none of which could be called a success: As I said in my original post, received mails sometimes are ok, sometimes are scrambled but without mistake my outbound replies to mails containing ascends are received on the other side either as Japanese or as blank message. I observed 2 things: Some Windows mail clients don't set the encoding in a proper way (some even don't set any at all) and most of the mail clients in the windows world don't decode Unicode in a proper way or not at all. PM is Unicode also there are some restrictions mainly for Hebrew and Arab Languages because of the used Text-engine. This, of course, can be true - I haven't been exploring Windows mail clients in a while - ever since I switched to Mac 4 years ago. :-))) However, what I am experiencing with PM does not show PM being successful in Unicode implementation either. :-( Personally, I have no problem with Latin2 as I am quite used not to use ascended characters but frankly, more and more people are using ascends in their e-mails and that creates problems for me. I was even silently observing paradox situation where Apple who was the first to come with support for all sorts of different languages was lagging with OSX and support for Croatian language until they adopted Unicode (and now it works very good even cross-platform). It may be that every other mail client in this world is doing things wrong and that PM is absolutely right. However, in situation when every other clients talk to each other ok, PM, even if it is perfect, turns to be faulty. Btw, Apple Mail does not exhibit this behavior thus this isn't mac-pc problem. So, even if PC mail clients do interpret code pages incorrectly, why don't they do this with Apple Mail? (for that matter, I dislike Apple Mail - it can be functional for my child but certainly not for me) Best regards, Sead
Re: PM and Little Snitch
Chris, it works fine for me with PM5 and 10.3.4 I once had a little problem - it was a permission problem. you try to deinstall and reinstall Little Snitch. Make sure, you have the current version. All the best Matthias --- schmidt-systemdevelopment http://www.schmidt-system.com iChat/AIM: MatKoyasan Tel. +31-736-56-3905 --- Am/On: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 10:57:38 +0200 schrieb/wrote: Chris Chris Walker Hi all, I'm not sure if this is a PM problem. for some reason Little Snitch will not remember to allow PM sending mail via SMTP. Even though I allow it forever, after quitting PM it forgets and asks again. It only does this with sending Mail and not with the POP3 port. I've trashed Snitch's prefs but it still persists. Since I have not noticed this with any other app, or with PM4 I can only assume it is a PM5 problem. The only other thing I can think of is that it's related to 10.3.4 to which I recently updated. Anybody else noticed this? BTW I've done the usual maintenance stuff via Onyx (permissions, cache clearances and so on) Chris PMac G4/400 448Mb Ram OSX 10.3.4
PM and Little Snitch
Hi all, I'm not sure if this is a PM problem. for some reason Little Snitch will not remember to allow PM sending mail via SMTP. Even though I allow it forever, after quitting PM it forgets and asks again. It only does this with sending Mail and not with the POP3 port. I've trashed Snitch's prefs but it still persists. Since I have not noticed this with any other app, or with PM4 I can only assume it is a PM5 problem. The only other thing I can think of is that it's related to 10.3.4 to which I recently updated. Anybody else noticed this? BTW I've done the usual maintenance stuff via Onyx (permissions, cache clearances and so on) Chris PMac G4/400 448Mb Ram OSX 10.3.4
Re: Recipients field Flickers
It appears that on 2/6/04 Tim Lapin spake thus: Just noticed a never before seen bug. When composing a message, be it new or reply, resizing the Recipients field causes it to flicker. Has anyone else seen this since upgrading to 5.0? -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] G4/AGP/400OS 10.3.4PowerMail 5.0 384 MB RAM 40+10 GB HDs Doesn't happen on my set-up PM5, G4, 1.25 GHz DP, 1.5 GB RAM, 120 GB hard drive, Mac OS 10.3.4 -- Pat O'Halloranhttp://www.danu.co.uk So who the hell can he be when he's never had VD and he doesn't even sit on toilet seats? - Ian Anderson
Re: Recipients field Flickers
Looks funny :-) but its nothing serious, more a cosmetic thing. Wouldn't really call it a bug All the best Matthias --- schmidt-systemdevelopment http://www.schmidt-system.com iChat/AIM: MatKoyasan Tel. +31-736-56-3905 --- Am/On: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 03:04:54 +0200 schrieb/wrote: Tim Tim Lapin Just noticed a never before seen bug. When composing a message, be it new or reply, resizing the Recipients field causes it to flicker. Has anyone else seen this since upgrading to 5.0? -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] G4/AGP/400OS 10.3.4PowerMail 5.0 384 MB RAM 40+10 GB HDs
Recipients field Flickers
Just noticed a never before seen bug. When composing a message, be it new or reply, resizing the Recipients field causes it to flicker. Has anyone else seen this since upgrading to 5.0? -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] G4/AGP/400OS 10.3.4PowerMail 5.0 384 MB RAM 40+10 GB HDs
Re: Old story goes on...
Bok ;-) I also had the white Lady bug, but it's gone since a long time, at least it didn't appear anymore since I use PM5. So, what I would suggest is doing a rebuild of the Indexes. As far as I understood this bug, it came from Apples Search engine and that one is not used anymore. Regarding your accents, my wife is Croatian and communicating with people in Croatia with PM and she didn't told me about any problems. You have a new feature in PM5 for received messages: you can change the encoding. This you find under the message menu. The other thing you can do is setting messages with unknown encoding to win1250 under the preferences and the encoding tab. I observed 2 things: Some Windows mail clients don't set the encoding in a proper way (some even don't set any at all) and most of the mail clients in the windows world don't decode Unicode in a proper way or not at all. PM is Unicode also there are some restrictions mainly for Hebrew and Arab Languages because of the used Text-engine. All the best Matthias --- schmidt-systemdevelopment http://www.schmidt-system.com iChat/AIM: MatKoyasan Tel. +31-736-56-3905 --- Am/On: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 23:23:22 +0200 schrieb/wrote: Sead Sead Hi there, I've been using Power Mail since 3.0 version. When I switched from PC to Mac, at that time Power Mail seemed like the way to go (not perfect translation but it did import at least all headers from Outlook for PC, when even Outlook for Mac could not do it). Anyway, I got used to Power Mail and was upgrading over time and now I'm on version 5.0. Always I was hoping that some of quirks would be sorted out but not, I really don't see much of the functional improvement from the very first version I used. Yeah, there are some things that have been included (address book synch is one thing I can think of) but I really did not see much improvement as one would expect. This said, Power Mail is perfectly competent e-mail client and it does serve me well. But, there are problems I want to address and without solution to these issues I will have to look for a new mail client. I was trying to get help outside of this mail list from CTM but except from nice words and promises technical dept would address them, all remained just wishful thinking. A year ago my database indexes developed what I think is called White Lady bug... Ever since my database was unable to index even with low level maintenance, everything I could think of. So, the search option is crippled and there is no cure that I am aware of (or being provided with technical support). With large number of e-mails that I need to make reference to quite often, not being able to do a comprehensive search can't be compared to nicer toolboxes and gadgets. And, today I finally got really upset - at the point where Apple has paved full support for Unicode (which should eventually bring compatibility with Windows), Power Mail seems to fail there big time. where they had great advantage long time ago, now becomes a problem. At least for me.. Living in Bosnia (thus dominant code page being Windows 1250) and communicating with whole world, I noticed that quite often Power Mail fails to recognize proper code page and when replying to such messages, end result can be anything from blank text to Japanese characters being send out by Power Mail! Of course, not by my intention but Power Mail does the liberty of screwing it up on it's own. Today I got an e-mail from Outlook client at CP1250. This message had a signed name in Swedish (A character with small circle above it). No other special characters. I wrote a reply to this e-mail but what was received on the other end had my reply text and all other text (except for headers) in Japanese fonts. If it wasn't a serious e-mail it would be a really funny thing but I can assure you that this was not taken as a joke at the recipient side! Later on, investigating this problem I changed all reasonable encoding options in PM5.0 and my reply would always end up in Japanese... When I receive e-mail with Bosnian ascended characters (which is the same as Croatian with number of ascended characters) every reply I create with Power Mail will end up being received with complete BLANK text. Only option is to write a clean new message (which is a major pain in the neck). While it is advertised that PM is blah-blah multilingual e-mail client, I knew that wasn't the case to full extent but was avoiding this by not using ascends myself. However, over time, people are much more using ascends in e-mails, heck even Microsoft has included full functional unicode support to MS Office for Mac that works flawlessly cross-platform with all sorts of Latin ascends, umlauts and you name it. So, CTM, wake up, your code page recognition and handling is outdated and does not function as intended (it may work for some languages perfectly but It certainly does not function
Re: AOL via IMAP and PowerMail 5
welcome to the club... It seems you can only auto-connect to a single IMAP account at a time. The others you manually connect to and then they stay active... On Jun 2, 2004, at 7:38 PM, Nary Lakshmanan wrote: I have multiple AOL accounts, which they have (thankfully) now allowed us to access via 3rd party clients and IMAP. This works quite well in Apple Mail (Jaguar Panther). However, in PowerMail, I cannot seem to automatically connect to all those accounts at the same time. I have to choose Connect... for each account individually. Why is this so, and what can I do to rectify this? -- Nary
AOL and SpamSieve
SpamSieve does not seem to apply its filters to my incoming AOL messages (accessed via IMAP). Have I setup something incorrectly? For all my other accounts, Spam Rating seems to show some attempt at a rating. For my AOL messages, the rating is always blank (zero). -- Nary
AOL via IMAP and PowerMail 5
I have multiple AOL accounts, which they have (thankfully) now allowed us to access via 3rd party clients and IMAP. This works quite well in Apple Mail (Jaguar Panther). However, in PowerMail, I cannot seem to automatically connect to all those accounts at the same time. I have to choose Connect... for each account individually. Why is this so, and what can I do to rectify this? -- Nary
Old story goes on...
Hi there, I've been using Power Mail since 3.0 version. When I switched from PC to Mac, at that time Power Mail seemed like the way to go (not perfect translation but it did import at least all headers from Outlook for PC, when even Outlook for Mac could not do it). Anyway, I got used to Power Mail and was upgrading over time and now I'm on version 5.0. Always I was hoping that some of quirks would be sorted out but not, I really don't see much of the functional improvement from the very first version I used. Yeah, there are some things that have been included (address book synch is one thing I can think of) but I really did not see much improvement as one would expect. This said, Power Mail is perfectly competent e-mail client and it does serve me well. But, there are problems I want to address and without solution to these issues I will have to look for a new mail client. I was trying to get help outside of this mail list from CTM but except from nice words and promises technical dept would address them, all remained just wishful thinking. A year ago my database indexes developed what I think is called White Lady bug... Ever since my database was unable to index even with low level maintenance, everything I could think of. So, the search option is crippled and there is no cure that I am aware of (or being provided with technical support). With large number of e-mails that I need to make reference to quite often, not being able to do a comprehensive search can't be compared to nicer toolboxes and gadgets. And, today I finally got really upset - at the point where Apple has paved full support for Unicode (which should eventually bring compatibility with Windows), Power Mail seems to fail there big time. where they had great advantage long time ago, now becomes a problem. At least for me.. Living in Bosnia (thus dominant code page being Windows 1250) and communicating with whole world, I noticed that quite often Power Mail fails to recognize proper code page and when replying to such messages, end result can be anything from blank text to Japanese characters being send out by Power Mail! Of course, not by my intention but Power Mail does the liberty of screwing it up on it's own. Today I got an e-mail from Outlook client at CP1250. This message had a signed name in Swedish (A character with small circle above it). No other special characters. I wrote a reply to this e-mail but what was received on the other end had my reply text and all other text (except for headers) in Japanese fonts. If it wasn't a serious e-mail it would be a really funny thing but I can assure you that this was not taken as a joke at the recipient side! Later on, investigating this problem I changed all reasonable encoding options in PM5.0 and my reply would always end up in Japanese... When I receive e-mail with Bosnian ascended characters (which is the same as Croatian with number of ascended characters) every reply I create with Power Mail will end up being received with complete BLANK text. Only option is to write a clean new message (which is a major pain in the neck). While it is advertised that PM is blah-blah multilingual e-mail client, I knew that wasn't the case to full extent but was avoiding this by not using ascends myself. However, over time, people are much more using ascends in e-mails, heck even Microsoft has included full functional unicode support to MS Office for Mac that works flawlessly cross-platform with all sorts of Latin ascends, umlauts and you name it. So, CTM, wake up, your code page recognition and handling is outdated and does not function as intended (it may work for some languages perfectly but It certainly does not function with CP1250). Nor have I been able to find a working solution for White Lady. Also, I want support. And, to get support, one should not have to go to mail-list (although I greatly appreciate help provided by some list members few years ago). Best regards, Sead Lejlic
