Re: Happy Holidays!
On 12/24/2010 9:19 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Happy Holidays! A few selections from this year's holiday shows: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=AAC08C3FACC6D0E2 Hope you enjoy :-) Thank you.. once again!
Re: 2 GB limit
On 11/9/2010 6:42 PM, John Snippe wrote: On 9-Nov-10, at 9:31 PM, Sean McBride wrote: Which email client are you all switching to? I'm not sure which to choose Currently using mail.app, but don't like it. I may try mailsmith. The closest I've found to PowerMail [on the dark side... Windows] is Thunderbird. It isn't so bad on the mac, although Power Mail is better. The searching is much improved over what it used to be and with the extensions pretty good. They finally put redirect in basic Thunderbird without having to get an extension for it. That was one of my favorite things in power mail.
Re: Importing from Entourage 2004?
Jefferis Peterson on 6/12/08 said Any suggestions? No reply means no solutions? what are the best replacements for Entourage's NewsGroup reader? I like being able to have newsgroup access inside my mail program. But PM doesn't offer that... I tried using the Emailchemy converter program recommended on CTV for my Entourage Database rge and for other files, but the demo wasn't able to make the conversion. I tried exporting to .eml but PM won't import them into folders as they are now. I can drag and drop every box I have, but I found that sub folder .mbox don't import with the parent folder. So it is a bit of a hassle. And I guess there is no way to export and import mail rules from Entourage? that would save a lot of time. I don't know the answers to most of your questions. If you can export from Entourage to an Apple OS X Mail format then PM can import it. Or some other intermediate one. This is the answer I do know, IF you want text only: MacSoup is my newsreader of choice. -- Barbara Needham
Re: typing speed (was: Importing from Entourage 2004?)
Jefferis Peterson on 6/10/08 said However, there is a very noticeable delay when typing in a new email while PM is downloading new email. That doesn't happen in Entourage... Yes, there is. I usually just wait. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Deleting select mails from server
Sean McBride on 3/20/08 said Barbara Needham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 3/19/08 10:13 PM said: Perhaps I'm missing something simple, but is it possible to delete select mails from the server? I gets lots of mail, and filter it into about 40 folders. For about 30 of those folders, I'd like to delete the mail from server as soon as I get them. How might I do that? Setup/Mail Accounts/Receiving you can set to delete at any [almost] number of days in addition to deleting when deleting locally [such as for spam]. Barbara, Thanks for your reply, but that doesn't really fit my needs. I use POP not IMAP (ISP doesn't provide IMAP) and so all my filtering and sorting is done in PowerMail. Occasionally I use webmail and/or pine to check my mail remotely. Generally when I do so, it's to find a personal message, not a list message. So it would be great if there was a way to delete from the server all messages that go into a folder other than my inbox. The setting has nothing to do with IMAP it is a pop setting. However for your other requirement that items that go in folders get deleted and items that stay in your inbox don't get deleted, [or items that go in to certain folders get deleted and other don't] I don't see an easy way to do that. Unless someone could figure out an Apple Script where something like the message that went to a folder was duplicated with one being deleted and one going to the folder, and then all deleted messages would be removed from server but the one in the folder would still be there I hope. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Removing Old Addresses
Nick Keck on 3/20/08 said When I address a new message, sometimes I am provided as an option old addresses for the individual. They are preceded by the @ sign and not the good address symbol. They do not appear in my address book. Where are they being stored? How do I remove them from my setup? Preferences/Address Book/un-check remember senders of received messages. If you think you want some of them I've started a new e-mail with the recipient beginning with A, then entered in to my address book those I wanted to keep etc. on to Z but haven't had to do that for a while. Then you can clear in that same preferences screen and it seems to clear both recipients and senders; at least that is the way I remember it. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Deleting select mails from server
Sean McBride on 3/8/08 said Hi all, Perhaps I'm missing something simple, but is it possible to delete select mails from the server? I gets lots of mail, and filter it into about 40 folders. For about 30 of those folders, I'd like to delete the mail from server as soon as I get them. How might I do that? Setup/Mail Accounts/Receiving you can set to delete at any [almost] number of days in addition to deleting when deleting locally [such as for spam]. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Tossing ALL the Junk
Anthony Sanna on 2/4/08 said IME, the attachments themselves are deleted, but the html junk that Tony is referring to are not. Little smileys and cute little gifs are left behind which have to be trashed individually. That's what I see. Some of that stuff is left over from real mail also. I have an attachment folder full of the stuff. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Email Freezes PowerMail
George Henne on 2/4/08 said I just got two more. I clear them out by firing up Mail and getting rid of them. What's CTMDev doing about this? I don't have any problem by keeping html turned off and not downloading large files until I see who they are from. My limit is 1000 kb set in mail settings and locations. -- Barbara Needham
Re: deleted accounts
Rick Lecoat on 1/8/08 said That bit about Mail wiping everything if you delete an account is a bit of a horror, I hadn't realised that. Currently I'm wrestling with whether to stick with PM or jump ship to the more basic Apple mail, prompted in part by acquiring an iPhone and needing to sort out my email in quite a major overhaul. You have to keep the account but mark it as inactive, then it will keep your mail. [Apple Mail on Tiger is my experience ... I maintain it for my husband] -- Barbara Needham
Re: powermail quits when connected without waiting for user interaction
MB on 12/14/07 said Whenever I'm connected to IMAP and select quit I get a dialog saying you're connected. Do you really want to quit? and the choice of Quit Anyway and Abort. Before I can make a choice and click Powermail quits on me. Isn't the expected behaviour PowerMail waits for the chosen action? Could someone of you guys please confirm this behaviour before I send a bug report? I have noticed this as well. The trouble is that I think I might be behind on version, now 5.2.1. It happens when connected via pop also. Once in a while it waits. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Restore PM from Backup ?
Irene on 11/21/07 said I can't seem to get the holding down Cmd to work, but thanks for pointing me to user environment. I'm new to PM and had not yet investigated this capability. I've just done a test and it seems I can put another PowerMail Files folder inside my existing PowerMail Files Folder, then open PM and switch user environment to this new PM Files Folder. I've also tried completely replacing my current PM Files folder with a different one and it works. So it appears that I will be able to get an up to date PM DB onto my HD with either of these methods. It's command option for various first aid items on Power Mail. Hold down the keys first then open PM. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Slow Address Book
C. A. Niemiec on 10/17/07 said And I don't see the problem with the RMW retaining unread mail between program restarts. Maybe we should have a Not-So-Recent-But-Still-Unread Mail Window? (SNRBSUMW... someone call the acronym police...) That is what Rick [and others] want--- have to say I can see their point; it is one of the reasons I never bother with it. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Exporting from PowerMail - all mail is Unread
Michael J. Hußmann on 9/21/07 said Jeremy Hughes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: It's disappointing that no one from CTM has commented on this, or on the basic problem of the 2 GB limit. The last official comment I saw about the 2 GB problem was that they're not planning to do anything to address it. I suppose the 2 GB limit isn't much of a concern to CTM, as few users are affected by it. I've been using PowerMail for seven years now (since April 2000, as that's the date of the oldest mails I have archived), and even though I send and receive lots of mails and tend to keep mails rather than delete them when in doubt, my message database is still under 200 MB. As you can guess, I am not at all concerned about the 2 GB limit, as I am not likely to ever hit that 2 GB limit during my lifetime. Maybe that's a fairly typical user experience? I have 700 MB since 2002 but that is after compacting the database. And I do not get huge volumes of e-mail. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Exporting from PowerMail - all mail is Unread
Tim Lapin on 9/21/07 said Barbara Needham wrote: Michael J. Hußmann on 9/21/07 said Jeremy Hughes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: ... my message database is still under 200 MB. As you can guess, I am not at all concerned about the 2 GB limit, as I am not likely to ever hit that 2 GB limit during my lifetime. Maybe that's a fairly typical user experience? I have 700 MB since 2002 but that is after compacting the database. And I do not get huge volumes of e-mail. I guess what we need to understand here is people's conception of huge volumes. Some of us will never approach 2 GB, while others seem to be flirting with it on almost a daily basis. So, is a huge volume of mail: -- more than X messages a day? -- more than Y MB a day of email, excluding attachments (which aren't part of the database)? -- something else? Clearly, an email package with strengths in one place (eg searching) and weaknesses in other places (eg smaller database sizes) needs to be put into the context of the expected use. Well, huge is anything that makes your database get too big.' And I do kind of disagree with your last point, since the strength of the searching is the very thing that makes me want to keep all my mail hanging around. I've been able to search easily and quote exact answers from previous e-mails when necessary or useful. If I couldn't search it all I might not bother keeping it! -- Barbara Needham
Re: Exporting from PowerMail - all mail is Unread
Winston Weinmann on 9/21/07 said Jérôme - Thank you for your work around. I will admit, however, that I do not fully follow the method for changes using Text Wrangler. What do these mean: Search For: [x] Use Grep [x] Muti-File Search (maybe this would be clear if I had a copy of Text Wrangler)? Can other text editors be used? Or is the multi-file search that Text Wrangler can do unique (presumably necessary to do a batch change on all the files at once)? It would be clear with a copy of text wrangler. [still free I think] Probably with BBEdit also [not free] Both produced by Bare Bones Software. Other text editors MAY be able to do it but you've got to be careful they are plain text editors, not rich text. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Exporting from PowerMail - all mail is Unread
Winston Weinmann on 9/20/07 said Steve - Also, near as I can tell, PowerMail exports no flag for Sent or Draft mail. So there is no way to tell them apart in an export. This could be a problem for people who use draft messages as notes. Would using Emailchemy solve your problem? The trouble is that emailchemy while it lists many many proprietary programs from which it will directly deal with, PowerMail is not one of them; so all it can deal with is what PM exports. The only other suggestion that came to me today is that perhaps you can get some help from the MAIL side to see what is needed; at the Apple Discussion groups at the apple website there is some genius mail guru that seems to have good answers to almost everything; you can tell who he is because on the right hand side he is the one at the top with the most answers. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Exporting from PowerMail - all mail is Unread
Barbara Needham on 9/20/07 said OK, this is the only way I can see to do this; which will take some time but preserve read/unread status. Well, it doesn't actually preserve it but keep track of it. It involves pretty much what other people have said, but not mixing up your folders. But you would have to export each folder in two batches. Go to a folder, sort by read/unread, then export selected messages as folder name/read and folder name/unread. When they get in to Mail, in the folder name/read mark all those messages as read, then combine the unread and the read into one folder. This would be a long job but it would preserve your folders and status and if you are moving to mail permanently should only have to be done once. Sent mail wouldn't be a problem because you would export the Sent Mail folder as one folder, even though it might not maintain the sent flag. It would end up being different from your Mail sent folder though. You might want to name it Mail that was sent from PowerMail. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Migration from Claris Emailer
Lyle D. Gunderson on 9/12/07 said On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:17:07 -0400, Jim Pistrang [EMAIL PROTECTED] appears to have written: Hi Lyle, I recall there being discussed a limitation on how many messages you could import into or have in your email database with PowerMail. Or maybe it was the size of the database that is the limit. I've searched my archive of powermail-discuss digests, and can find only a reference to a 2 GB limitation on database size. I've gots tens of thousands of messages in Emailer. To add to Barbara's great reply... I have over 50,000 messages in my PowerMail database, and the database size is currently less than 350 MB. I also bought eMailer when Guy told us to. I encountered lots of problems converting to PowerMail until I discovered Emailchemy, that is definitely the way to go. Thanks, Jim and Barbara! I've downloaded Emailchemy and tried it out, and it converted 80,008 emails (how embarrassing!) with no problems. Did I do it right? I told Emailchemy to use the Standard Mailbox File format, then used PowerMail's import to bring the messages in. I created a test user environment (a very nice feature of PowerMail, btw) for the test. All the messages showed up, but lines of text were broken in mid-word when they are OK in the mailbox file, and html emails had their html and images attached instead of inline. Is this normal? PowerMail seems to be able to handle html emails and images just fine when it downloads them from a mail server. Is there a setting I'm missing or a better way to import the email? Maybe the fact that emailer is so clueless about html and images is why those show up as attachments, but it would be nice if the lines got broken in a less clueless way. I think PowerMail is happiest with Unix mail box. Is that the same as what you did? -- Barbara Needham
Re: Migration from Claris Emailer
Lyle D. Gunderson on 9/10/07 said I, too, am about to migrate, with reluctance, from Emailer. I bought it on Guy Kawasaki's recommendation, if that tells you how long I've been using it. I recall there being discussed a limitation on how many messages you could import into or have in your email database with PowerMail. Or maybe it was the size of the database that is the limit. I've searched my archive of powermail-discuss digests, and can find only a reference to a 2 GB limitation on database size. I've gots tens of thousands of messages in Emailer. Are there any other limitations I should know about? I'm about to buy EmailChemy anyway, since that looks like the way to go. If there are limits to what can be imported, I can always go into Emailer and create a truncated version of the Emailer database that cuts off at some point in the past. Or something. Also, does EmailChemy import attachments in a decent fashion? I have been deleting spam from Emailer for quite some time without deleting the attachments, and I'm assuming that orphaned ones will be left behind and the good ones (attached to email that I'm importing) will come along somehow. Do the attachments use up space in the database? The attachments do not take up space in the database. There is a number of mails limit for the trial version, not for the registered version. There is a 2 gb limit for the powermail database. Reaching this limit can be staved off for a while [assuming one wants to keep all their e-mails] by compacting the database. It is also possible to have your old e-mails in an Old User Environment [by creating a New User Environment .. no new registration needed] and I think the search will include both. -- Barbara Needham
Re: A network interface error occurred - this is bad
The Monster Team on 8/29/07 said On 8/29/07 at 8:46 AM, PowerMail Engineering ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: The Monster Team wrote: When I try to send email via my primary email account, I get the following error message: A network interface error occurred Class=NetP; what=4; when=1 This is an authentication error. Make sure you have provided the user and password in the sending tab of the account dialog, if your SMTP server is configured to require authentication. Verify that the server does not require SSL/TLS, or that you have enabled it in the accounts dialog. Verify also in Mail schedulings and locations, in the location tab, if you have configured a global SMTP settings for all your mail accounts. Jérôme, Thanks for the response. The SMPT settings are identical to how they have been for the last several years, and also identical to the settings for several other accounts on that server. This broke the other day when I had to let my ISP have access to my mailbox to run a test. I quit PM, logged into the web admin for my mailbox and changed the password, and gave them access. When they were done, I logged into the web admin for the account, changed the password back, and then launched PM. Nothing in PM changed - it wasn't even running, yet I'm now getting this authentication error. The only thing I changed was my password, and I changed it back - if I hadn't changed it back successfully, I wouldn't be able to fetch mail on that account, and I can. Which is just... weird. My ISP (reasonably intelligent folks over there, really) say that they've put everything back on their side. Can you think of *anything* that this could be? Anything out of the ordinary? Everything normal or expected appears to be correct. Have you tried deleting everything related to your isp off of your keychain? I know it shouldn't have an effect but who knows? -- Barbara Needham
Re: req: volume adjustment
Mikael Byström on 7/26/07 said I need a PowerMail volume adjustment setting solution, please. If you sit in a semi-public environment like a work place and the sound goes to an amplifier in the purpose of hearing music it's very annyoing to hear the newmail sound and other sounds from PowerMail. Anyone know of an application that can make sound from a set of apps take another route than the main sound and set it to another level? Can Soundflower do this? Anyone know? You could turn off the sound alerts from Power Mail preferences, Notifications. Or you could choose one of the softer sounds, if you still want some noise. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Attachment reminder?
Didn't someone just make an outgoing mail filter that does this? gunnar madsen on 7/6/07 said This would be a GREAT thing to have. Thanks, Bill Gunnar Madsen -- Gunnar Madsen | Fall of Troy http://www.FallofTroyCD.com This has become the only music I play while I work. Beautifully constructed, with a subtlety that might take a dozen listenings to really appreciate. Max, CDBaby Can PowerMail alert me when I try to send a message that contains attached that the message has no attachment? I ran across a Thunderbird extension called AttachmentReminder that does that. You configure it with a list of strings that it should check for in the message ... enclosure, attached, whatever you are likely to use in message text. http://nic-nac-project.de/~kaosmos/index-en.html One the most useful email features I've run into recently. (Yes, I recently sent a friend a message in PowerMail that should have had an attached photo but didn't.) Bill
Re: Sharing Same Email in Multiple Contacts
Giovanni Andreani on 7/7/07 said Hello, when adding a new contact in the address book sometimes i deal with two persons who share the same email address; this happens, for instance, with two little brothers who's real email is their father's. Unfortunately PM doesn't let me share the same email address in more than one contact in the address book. Is there any way to get around this? Put a space in front of the e-mail address. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Forwarding email
Carl Darby on 7/6/07 said Just started using Powermail and have one small problem. If I receive an email in HTML - graphics etc - and I want to forward it on to others the HTML etc is stripped out of the message. The only way to send it intact is to Redirect it. Is there any way, if I redirect, to change the From: field to reflect MY email address as opposed to that of the person who sent it to me? Or is there any other way of sending it intact. Hope this makes sense!! Depends what you are after. If you simply want people to know you are the one that sent it, re-directed mail will appear in their inbox as by way of your e-mail address If they hit reply it will go to the original address; which is perhaps what you are trying to avoid. -- Barbara Needham
Re: PM Quits Now
A-NO-NE Music on 6/14/07 said T.L. Miller / 2007/06/14 / 06:12 PM wrote: I sent that message to Apple several times went PM crashed and I understand that Apple takes those messages seriously. They don't take a look unless the crashed app is theirs. Not altogether true. They do check if something they did breaks a major third party application. However, I also expect PM isn't one of those apps. -- Barbara Needham
Re: PowerMail and IMAP
Sean McBride on 5/9/07 said For most, the biggest thing is being able to keep your mail at work, home, and laptop all in sync. I manage to do this with pop mail, by not deleting from server. However, this works only for INCOMING. For outgoing, it does not. There IMAP does have the advantage if you keep a SENT mail folder on the server. On the other hand, I turn on IMAP in PowerMail when I need it [for .mac mail]; in the meantime I download it all as pop. Thunderbird emptied all my folders on the server once.. that scared me off of using it for a while. -- Barbara Needham
Re: auto-move msg after reading
Rick Lecoat on 4/25/07 said And once again I'm going to climb on my 'feature request' soapbox and ask for a preference to make the recent mail window retain its contents between restarts. Or at least a smart folder or saved search sort of thing. But yes, I agree. -- Barbara Needham
Re: bug or feature ?
Rick Lecoat on 4/20/07 said Is this something that I actually care about? No, because as I said, I hardly ever print any sort of email. But Winston cares about it, and I think that he is right to (and *has* every right to). He's not out of line here. I *do* care that a valid concern by a list member is being trivialised on the grounds that his needs do not tally with the needs of others. We're better than that. Thanks for pointing this out Rick. Over the last days I actually came to agree with Winston in the html printing request. This is how I came to a change: A lot of times when I print I like to print to PDF so that I have a copy of something that is platform independent. Printing with no dialog box does not allow this. If attempting to print from the html rendering produced a message printing from this screen is not possible at this time I think that would be acceptable. It is the behavior that ACTS like a normal printing process is going on when it actually isn't that seems to be bothersome. As far as having the headers, I don't see them when the html is rendered so I'm not sure how they could be printed. It is true that if everyone ceased using html or used properly formatted html with its text component we wouldn't have this problem.. but I think that not happening is why CTM was willing to using the Safari rendering engine in the first place to display this type of mail. Not that I'm going to stop using PowerMail, I've tried it and couldn't stand not using it... -- Barbara Needham
Re: PowerMail vs. Thunderbird
Winston Weinmann on 4/19/07 said Has anyone compared PowerMail to Thunderbird? Yes, I ran both together for a month or two. I am now running PowerMail alone. Thunderbird: free PM: costs $ Thunderbird: shows html or pictures according to your preferences by each folder/account. PM: must choose to show html [or choose in preferences]. I keep it off and decide to show on individual basis. the html rendering is much better than it used to be. Thunderbird PM: both have space bar read through mail and go to next mail. If run out of mail in folder, TB will ask to go to next folder. PowerMail: search function tops all. I can always find a mail I'm looking for with even a vague remembrance of what it is. Filters: Thunderbird is pretty good at this but PowerMail is better, with ease of setting up filters. Spam: SpamSieve works seamlessly with PowerMail. As far as I can see, it does not work with Thunderbird. PM: has that 2 gb limit but not counting attachments. I'm not too close yet, with mail for about 4 years. Other people have larger databases which can be a problem. I prefer text e-mails so that is another factor with me pro PowerMail. -- Barbara Needham
Re: bug or feature ?
Winston Weinmann on 4/19/07 said Wayne wrote: I doubt that a ton of effort is going to be spent on this issue because most of us don't really use that feature often and I, and I'm sure others, would rather see CTM Dev spend their time improving or fixing other issues rather than HTML email. That is a valid point. CTM should definitely work on the issues of greatest concern to its user base. I am curious how many other PM users find the HTML printing problems more than just a minor annoyance. I waste paper and ink with blank printouts, or printouts with more pages than needed. (Yes, I re-use the pages printed with only a header.) Sometimes I find (for example) directions I had printed not ready as I am going out the door. I can learn to live with the problem, but I am not happy. It would be OK to get an error notice or warning which says I have to go to my web browser to print HTML mail. Then at least I'd get what I expect. Also, I do not think it makes CTM look professional to have such an obvious bug. It certainly prevents me from recommending PowerMail to others, even if I keep using it. The problem is too quirky for new users to have to deal with. Apparently it doesn't bother a lot of us, new users or old. And I don't know why, but I haven't had any problem printing. Esp. properly formatted html mails that have their text equivalent. I print itineraries from Orbitz. I don't remember how.. I'll have to look and post back how I do it. -- Barbara Needham
Re: bug or feature ?
Winston Weinmann on 4/19/07 said You must not have four children in three schools all of whom attend various games, practices, parties, classes and other events in obscure locations. Or live in a city where directions are needed often. Then there are school instructions, lists of dates for the above activities, invitations, contact lists, event notices, travel itineraries, etc. These need to be posted or responded to (for example, by sending a check in for payment), or kept for easy reference. Yes, we print a lot of email, and for good reason. Sounds like an organizer program may be more what you want... Used to be Claris organizer. Not sure what may be best now. -- Barbara Needham
Re: attachments
Marlyse Comte on 3/31/07 said On Mar 31, 2007, at 3:53 PM, Alan Harper wrote: In the filter Spam: Actions (at least that is what mine is called) use Move attachments to trash. Consider using don't index and others as well. I DO have that enabled, so it must be something else in addition? Thanks for your input. Are you talking about actual attachments? Or those annoying gif things and related objects that appear when someone uses stationery.. like lines, little smiley faces, etc. My attachment directory is kind of full of those also. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Powermail Failure...Please Help
Robert Morrison on 3/24/07 said I'm new to powermail...having just switched from apple mail. I just spent about a day and a half getting about 20,000 mail messages systematically transfered over from mail into powermail, setting up 8 email accounts, locations and quite a few filters. Everything was working great on my mac book and then I went to power up powermail to check email and I got an error message while opening that there was a problem in the database. I tried a couple of times...but got the same error. I then tried to rebuild things by doing a option/command while starting powermail. I checked everything except the low level rebuild. It took about an hour and what I got was nothing like what I had before. All my accounts and filters were gone as were location settings. All my folders were also gone and all that was there was a giant folder which looks like it was created from some apple mail files...but was not what I had before. Please help...I'm panicked at best. I appear to have lost several days work as well as all my email since I changed over. Should I do a low level rebuild? I have no idea what happened. Do you still have your apple mail? Was it from panther or tiger? how did you switch? Do you know how big your pm database was when working? There is a 2 gb limit. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Powermail Failure...Please Help
Robert Morrison on 3/24/07 said On Mar 24, 2007, at 7:23 PM, Barbara Needham wrote: Robert Morrison on 3/24/07 said I'm new to powermail...having just switched from apple mail. I just spent about a day and a half getting about 20,000 mail messages systematically transfered over from mail into powermail, setting up 8 email accounts, locations and quite a few filters. Everything was working great on my mac book and then I went to power up powermail to check email and I got an error message while opening that there was a problem in the database. I tried a couple of times...but got the same error. I then tried to rebuild things by doing a option/command while starting powermail. I checked everything except the low level rebuild. It took about an hour and what I got was nothing like what I had before. All my accounts and filters were gone as were location settings. All my folders were also gone and all that was there was a giant folder which looks like it was created from some apple mail files...but was not what I had before. Please help...I'm panicked at best. I appear to have lost several days work as well as all my email since I changed over. Should I do a low level rebuild? I have no idea what happened. Do you still have your apple mail? Yes Was it from panther or tiger? Tiger how did you switch? I made folders in mail with the messages I wanted in powermail and then imported those folders into powermail. I then moved the messages around in powermail...including putting some of them in the in tray. Do you know how big your pm database was when working? There is a 2 gb limit. I noticed that my message database was about 700mb, but my address book database was 2gb...which was kind of weird. I'm not sure what the difference between the message and address book databases are. The address database is just an address book which more or less can be kept in synch with your apple address book, if you so choose. The message database has all the actual bodies of messages. Attachments are downloaded to a separate folder, even those things like line.gif which come up when people use stationery for their mail. If I were you and the messages in the last couple of days are still on your server or otherwise retrievable... I would import into PowerMail folder by folder and make sure things are working correctly after each import. However, since you'll probably end up doing that anyway if the database rebuild doesn't work.. might as well try it first. I find it better when doing the first aid bits on power mail to try one at a time. Hopefully someone else with more experience will chime in... -- Barbara Needham
Thank you Michael Tsai and SpamSieve
This is so amazing I just have to report it. We have an alias address from an organization that is just over-run with spam. In fact I think someone is forging their headers, but that is a whole other story. I routed that alias address to my yahoo mail address which I collect using Power Mail. I put a filter right before the Spam Sieve filter for mail from that address to go to its own folder, but I did NOT check Don't apply subsequent filters.. which means that it goes through Spam Sieve before it goes to the folder. It is working so perfectly it is hard to believe.. legitimate messages go to the folder and spam messages are caught and put in the Spam folder. I bought a separate license for my husband to use on his laptop with Apple Mail and for the first time in his e-mail experience he is experiencing spam free e-mail. I love PowerMail filters much better than Apple Mail ones which is why of course I use PowerMail ... but my husband is used to Apple Mail and with Spam Sieve he now has a good experience. -- Barbara Needham
Re: text clippings
Judith Beiss on 3/15/07 said How do I add a text clipping to the end of my outgoing emails? I would have thought it would work as do the text signatures under Setup in the PM menu bar, but somehow I haven't been able to make it work. I have a text clipping typed in and a name in the description window, but it does not come up as an option for emails. What am I missing? PM 5.2.2, G 4 PowerMac. You are missing the little square to the left of the address above the body of an e-mail you are sending out. Tap on that square [which also has a tiny triangle] and you will see your text clippings. That is the names of them. Hopefully you named them something you'll remember what they are. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Multiple SMTPs
Use mail schedulings and locations. On Mar 15, 2007, at 3:14 PM, Robert Morrison wrote: Is it possible to set up multiple SMTP's to use with the same email account. I have to send from at least three different SMTP's depending on my location. I do this all the time in Apple Mail...but can't seem to figure out how to do it in Powermail. PM 5.2.3 Intel MacBook -Robert Morrison-
Re: Multiple SMTPs
Barbara Needham on 3/15/07 said Use mail schedulings and locations. On Mar 15, 2007, at 3:14 PM, Robert Morrison wrote: Is it possible to set up multiple SMTP's to use with the same email account. I have to send from at least three different SMTP's depending on my location. I do this all the time in Apple Mail...but can't seem to figure out how to do it in Powermail. PM 5.2.3 Intel MacBook -Robert Morrison- To be a little bit clearer now that I am actually writing from PowerMail, Under Setup you will find Mail Schedulings and Locations. I'm not so good at using scheduling but locations is good. You'd put new in for a location and then put in the smtp server for that location. The one with the yellow jelly dot is the one being used at the time. Or get an isp like mine that gives a port that can be used no matter how connected. -- Barbara Needham -- Barbara Needham
Re: Displaying actual email address not name
Leonard Morgenstern on 3/13/07 said On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 14:03:03 + Shark Attack wrote: Right now I need to see those messages displayed to show the actual email address. In other words, rather than have the message displayed as being from 'Joe Bloggs (work)' I want to see that it was from [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have the same problem in reverse. I have several mail accounts and sometimes want to know which one is the source of a given message. I click on Show Full Header under the view menu and plow through the long listing to find it. The e-mail address of the sender is also there. Not a convenient method, but it works for me. I would guess that an Applescript could do the job. For showing accounts, all you need to do is go to View/Options and check account. Remember view options are distinct for each folder. For showing original e-mail address it does show easily on each individual e-mail; but I believe the op wanted to see that address listed in the browser window, as a set. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Displaying actual email address not name
Rene Merz wrote: Leonard Morgenstern [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have the same problem in reverse. I have several mail accounts and sometimes want to know which one is the source of a given message. I click on Show Full Header under the view menu and plow through the long listing to find it. But the easiest way would be to create a own folder for each mail account and to install an individual incoming filter for each of it (of the type: send mails with TO-address [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the folder XYZ). The additional benefit of this is that you will named automatically as sender with your mail address of that specific account whenever you reply to a mail which went-in into the concerned account-folder. This would defeat the purpose of all the filters I already have in PowerMail, to send to the different mailing lists and people. I don't want them divided by account. I actually don't really care what account it came from, and somehow [of course I forget how] I have PM set up so it sends from the correct account. Simplest as has been mentioned is to check account in view options.. remembering you may have to scroll to see it. All of which doesn't answer the op's question of seeing original e-mail address in a list of addresses. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Displaying actual email address not name
Shark Attack on 3/9/07 said Hi all; Most of the time Powermail displays the 'to' and 'from' fields of a given email using the 'real name' associated with it. (I'm talking bout when emails are listed in the Browser window, say, or in Find results). Right now I need to see those messages displayed to show the actual email address. In other words, rather than have the message displayed as being from 'Joe Bloggs (work)' I want to see that it was from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this possible? I've not found a preference setting that seems to handle this. And, just this one time, I need it. Here is a sort of work around. It may not actually do what you want but by looking in two places it might help. In your browser window [not sure whether or not this works with find results]... select all the e-mails of which you want to see the real e- mail address. The tap and hold the reply button in the toolbar. You will see reply to sender, and reply to all. You should also see reply single message... choose that. [Note: this doesn't work if the reply-to is a mailing list or yahoo group]. You then should see the addresses in that fake new e- mail and can perhaps compare it to the list in the browser [or find?] window. Apple Mail has an option for showing complete addresses... probably powermail should??? -- Barbara Needham
Re: PowerMail to Mail possible bug
Marlyse Comte on 3/6/07 said I hate it when I find the answer before my message even makes it to the list, and this after trying a variety of other things :) But anyhow, it's not a bug, just works differently than expected. Steps are: 1) export folder e.g. to desktop in mail format 2) in mail select IMPORT mailbox and format OTHER 3) select the exported mbox file 4) all good... 5) optional : wade through the volume of wrongly marked junk email :) If you have read any apple discussion groups lately, and if you are using Apple Mail 2 [the one with Tiger] the consensus seems to be that the import function in Apple Mail is broken even when importing mail from Apple Mail 1.x. The solution as you have found is to import as other. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Multiple databases (yet again)
Tim Lapin (sympatico) on 1/30/07 said Then again, I could start using Thunderbird, which has a 4 GB limit per parent folder. I get my mail twice each, once using thunderbird and once using PowerMail. PowerMail search is still better. I like the ability to save searches in Thunderbird as virtual folders. I like the threading in thunderbird [most of the time]. I like the filtering in PowerMail as I haven't seen yet [though I could have missed it] a SpamSieve for thunderbird. I let PowerMail be the one to delete from server. -- Barbara Needham
Re: foxtrot list
Marlyse Comte wrote: I'm wondering about the foxtrot list if that is alive. I'm sure I was subscribed but somehow it seems not and so I re-subscribed today but never received a welcome email etc. and so I'm not sure if the list is up or what... anyone else on that list? Yes it is active, that is to say alive. I have 4 posts for all of January 2007, 1 of them being from fox trot engineering 6 Jan 2007, 7 Jan 2007, and 3 on 26 Jan 2007. I didn't get anything on the power mail list for about 5 months last year... -- Barbara Needham
Re: 5.5.2b3 About Box Bug
Matthias Schmidt on 12/3/06 said Am/On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 15:11:59 -0700 schrieb/wrote Tom Dillon: A-NO-NE Music sez: PM about box, if you keep calling it up, you will end up with many about boxes on top of each other :-) It's not a bug. It's there to allow you to see the Japanese localization credit over and over. i don't see any Japanese localization . btw, I don't experience this behavior. I think that was a joke... But at first I thought I didn't see this behavior.. but try this, call up the about box about three times. Then move the about box. In my case there are more behind it. It just calls them up exactly registered on top of each other. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Sound still disappears from PM
We need a definition of recent mail and then close the window when that definition is reached. The definition to be user-defined. recent = one day, for some recent = until I tell it to go away, for others and variations in between. Paul Collett wrote: Yes, I'd like to see an option to retain the contents of the recent mail window after restarting, too. Paul Collett On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:20:21 + Rick Lecoat wrote: ONE SINGLE CHANGE would make this problem go away: a simple preference to let me choose whether the RMW gets emptied at restart, or is retained. Is it really THAT hard? I've been asking for this since PM 4.1 -- that's over 3 years.
Re: 2 features I'd like
Ken Pope on 10/29/06 said The other feature I'd love is a re-send function that would prepare a message for re-sending while leaving all addresslines blank. Currently (again I may be ignorant of a PM feature, an Applescript, etc., that does what I want), I have to either use the duplicate function, which requires me to erase all the entries in the TO, CC, and BC lines, or use the forward function, which requires me to erase the forward notation in the subject line, the forwarding headers in the message section, and the end of forwarded message notation at the end of the message. You mean something like Redirect ? Option/command F -- Barbara Needham
Re: SPAM Filter questions
Michael Tsai on 6/18/06 said
On Jun 18, 2006, at 10:16 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:
Last few days, all the sudden I am getting incomplete SPAM mails into
Inbox. The mail only has From but nothing else. No To, no
Subject,
no Reply-to, nor body. I am getting them a lot, and I have been
hitting Cmd+Y like a mad man.
I thought either PM or SpamSieve would do something about it but to
no avail.
I seems to be unable to find the way to filter them. If I make To
_is_ then leave the field blank, the filter does nothing.
You can match missing subjects using a SpamSieve blocklist rule.
Leaving the field blank will match a subject that's present but
empty. To match a missing subject, enter SpamSieve-Unknown-Subject.
I found I almost missed an important message which was directed to
me by my valid
mail address and display name.
And now this. When I opened Filter, I found entry duplicates which
shouldn't be there. I have two Trash filters after PM's SPAM filter
to trash whatever missed. Why I have two trash filters is because one
can contain only 16 instances. Anyway, the top of the 2nd Trash
filter
is Body starts with ('Dear Homeowner').
I would suggest creating these kind of manual rules using SpamSieve's
blocklist rather than PowerMail rules. Then:
* From the hit count, you'll be able to see which rules are having
an effect.
* If a rule puts a good message in the spam folder, you'll be able
to see which one was responsible.
* When you mark the mail as good, the offending rule will
automatically be disabled.
Here is an example of what is not getting caught:
The body is empty except for an html content.
-- RFC822 Header Follows --
Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from mac.com (smtpin17-en2 [10.13.11.245])
by ms82.mac.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.11 (built Mar
22 2006))
with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun,
18 Jun 2006 15:01:13 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from emqie ([88.224.161.113])
by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin17/MantshX 4.0) with SMTP id k5IM15nr015495
for
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:01:06 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from yswe ([88.224.87.64])by emqie (8.13.2/8.13.2)
with SMTP id k5IM5eRG037286; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:05:40 +0300
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:01:07 +0300
From: Juliana Rangel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: hierarchy peep
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIME-version: 1.0
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X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1441
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Barbara Needham
Re: IMAP
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 3/9/06 said I am about to move to IMAP only for my main email account. I have been a happy and loyal powermail user for years, but understand that IMAP is not their strong suit. Do people have any opinions on the best mac IMAP client out there? Seems to be either Mail.app or Thunderbird. any advice appreciated! Use Thunderbird. -- Barbara Needham
Re: AppleMail compatible problem
A-NO-NE Music on 2/13/06 said Barbara Needham / 2006/02/13 / 05:52 PM wrote: But to do what you are doing, you put the exported mbox file in your ~/ library/mail/mailboxes folder and when you open apple mail it will be there. I think. It didn't work, but I found the workaround. PM exports as mbox, and you have to change the file name to filename.mbox in order for AppleMail to be able to import. And you were right. The imported message showed up as broken, two bogus HTML attachments besides the image file attachment just as PM received. It seems to be a PM issue. Bug? Well, it is a bug somewhere. The question is apparently where? I've no idea... -- Barbara Needham
Re: AppleMail compatible problem
A-NO-NE Music on 2/13/06 said Barbara Needham / 2006/02/12 / 07:05 PM wrote: Do these mails show up correctly in Apple Mail? Yes, it does. I just posted a bug report from AppleMail, embedding a image. It showed up perfectly in AppleMail, but PM brought two bogus HTML files along with the image attachment. No Glob icon :-( Do they show up correctly in Apple Mail if they have been opened first in Power Mail? Ur, how do you do this? I exported the message to AppleMail format from PM, but I don't know how to open the exported mbox file in AppleMail. Import reported invalid. Hmm.. I didn't mean that, exactly. But sometimes when I have opened a message in PM and then downloaded into Apple mail it doesn't work. But to do what you are doing, you put the exported mbox file in your ~/ library/mail/mailboxes folder and when you open apple mail it will be there. I think. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Deleting VCF attachments (and only VCFs)
Dave Nathanson on 2/9/06 said D'oh! It would be really great if the PowerMail team add a mail action to operate only on attachments that meet a criteria? That would be really excellent! (hopefully before I drown in .vcf files!) Dave, Wayne is an applescript expert and if you ask him really nicely sometimes he'll write a script for you. But he isn't going to write one if you don't want it. Lots of PM functionality is based on scripts written by users. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Seasonal Greetings
A-NO-NE Music on 12/20/05 said [PROTECTED]/music/xmas/ thanks, Hiro! -- Barbara Needham
Re: bug report with editing of outgoing message
Mikael Byström on 11/22/05 said Barbara Needham said: I guess to me that would be the expected behavior. To me, the message in the outbox is the un-edited message, the one open is the edited message. Thus closing the edited message would replace the one in the outbox. Before its closed there are two messages, the edited one and the unedited one. That's the way I see it, anyway. OK, thanks for that. However, I find your expectation on behavior to be quite unreasonable and illogical. Do you then also propose that if you make edits and press the send button, what is actually sent should not be what you see in the outgoing message window at the time (the edited version), but what was saved before that? If so, why? If not, why? You're asking from the user that he/she should remember that a message is opened, among many others that may be that at the time, when PM very easily could handle the problem and alert the user and put him/her back in control. If I present this on any mailing list that concerns itself with development of interfaces and functionality I'm sure I'd get close to 100% siding with me on how such functionality should work in order to be consistent and fulfilling user expectancy. You want me to try that? I guess it doesn't really matter ... what CTM thinks is what matters. -- Barbara Needham
Re: bug report with editing of outgoing message
Mikael Byström on 11/19/05 said Barbara Needham said: Actually, I don't see that, but maybe I'm not getting your steps. If I edit a mail that is in my out box, and I try to close it, I get save/no save option. If I edit a mail that is in my out box, and then hit send again, the changes are saved and incorporated in my new mail. Which of these steps are unclear?: 1. Make a new message 2. Save it 3. Open again for editing 4. Write your edits 5. In the out box, mark the message as waiting 6. Go to the still open edited message 7. Click the send button in that message --the edits are gone If you do try these steps, do the result not correspond with my experience that the edited parts are gone? I guess to me that would be the expected behavior. To me, the message in the outbox is the un-edited message, the one open is the edited message. Thus closing the edited message would replace the one in the outbox. Before its closed there are two messages, the edited one and the unedited one. That's the way I see it, anyway. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Please, FIX SEARCHING GLITCHES and make it more user friendly!
Alan Harper on 11/18/05 said Mikael I do not get the same results as you do. I just rebuilt the index in the way you suggested. I have an email that says: -- RFC822 Header Follows -- Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and my address book has Craig Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] I search for From includes all the words cpalmer135 and it comes up, while a search for From includes all the words Craig does not. Are you sure that the word David doesn't appear somewhere else and that is why you are finding it? I have found that searching for at least one of the words works much better for single word searching than for all the words. -- Barbara Needham
Re: bug report with editing of outgoing message
Barbara Needham on 11/18/05 said Mikael Byström on 11/18/05 said This must be considered a bug: Make a new message Save it Open again for editing Write your edits In the out box, mark the message as waiting realize you made a mistake and go to the still open edited message click the send button in that message --the edits are gone Clearly, what should be expected is that the edits would write over the saved message after you had indicated that is what you want. I see no good reason for having it this way. Please put it in the to do list, Jérôme. Personally it isn't a high priority of course, but it really shouldn't work this way. Edits should never ever disappear quietly. They should if you don't save them. What if you edit and then change your mind? Except for auto save applications, I don't want saved until I tell something to save. Actually, I don't see that, but maybe I'm not getting your steps. If I edit a mail that is in my out box, and I try to close it, I get save/no save option. If I edit a mail that is in my out box, and then hit send again, the changes are saved and incorporated in my new mail. -- Barbara Needham
Re: qurly quotes
Mikael Byström on 11/18/05 said Are qurly quotes not possible in PowerMail for a reason or is it a bug? When I sent them to myself, they were turned to regular ones. The message, both the outgoing and incoming are stored in this encoding: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The curly quotes are visible inside the outgoing message, but not in source as far as I can see with the Show source in TextEdit script. That's a bit funny isn't it. What is determining the curly quotes if it isn't a code for that in the source. Is Show source in TextEdit script not reliable for viewing encoding codes? Should messages with curly quotes be sent with another encoding? If so, why does PM don't do that? I hate curly quotes. sorry. -- Barbara Needham
Re: loss of focus bug
Mikael Byström on 11/17/05 said I just want to stress how annoying and pointless the loss of focus in the current message one writes is, when one is fetching messages. I'm forgetting what the exact cause was, but you guys may remember that as it was a list item some time back. I absolutely HATE it, when this happens. How do you guys feel at that point? Well, I don't actually HATE it, but I can confirm that it does happen and sometimes PM will remember a few keys I've typed and sometimes it won't. It seems to happen when messages are being sieved. Which is only a few with me since almost everything is filtered into some folder or other. -- Barbara Needham
Re: HTML
Carl Ketterling on 11/16/05 said Does the HTML viewing work acceptably for everyone? (Mine never shows any images properly.) Mostly, but not always. I mostly keep html turned off, then choose to show html if it is important, like my daughter is sending me a picture. Then it takes another click to download images. Sometimes this does not do anything except return to the text mail. Mostly it works though. I believe that this was reported. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Conversion of PM messages.
Jim Pistrang on 11/16/05 said Hi Harold, Does anyone know how I can convert my messages from PowerMail into a format that Outlook can use? Are you sure that none of the options available under 'Export...' will work? To experiment, you might try exporting a single message or a small group of messages in a lot of different formats, and see which one Outlook will accept. If nothing works, take a look at Emailchemy, I used it to move my email IN to PM, and it worked very well. In some cases using Eudora as intermediate might work. Export from PM in eudora format, open or import into eudora [I forget which] and then export from there so Outlook can import. It's been a very long time since I tried something like this though so my memory could be faulty. -- Barbara Needham
Re: List archives?
A-NO-NE Music on 11/14/05 said [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2005/11/14 / 12:50 PM wrote: I just joined this list because I have a problem. Can anyone tell me if there is a way to access list archives? I hate to bother you all with a problem that's been solved already in the past. This is the only one available: http://pmdiscuss.ctmdev.com/ But don't be afraid to ask your question. We don't bite, mostly. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Disappearing Folder
Tom Miller on 11/12/05 said I don't know where that contextual menu is (sounds interesting), but I did search for a missing message I knew I sent and did not find it. A contextual menu is the one you get when crtl clicking on something. When you ctrl click [or right click if you have a mouse that does that] it shows menu options that you can only do from that place. Ctrl clicking on a message that has the arrow showing that you replied to it gives you the option to show reply and will bring that reply up. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Search unviewed items
Barbara Needham on 10/6/05 said Andy Fragen on 10/6/05 said One of the reasons I love PM is it's View Unread command. A problem I've discovered is that if the 'View Unread' is selected for a folder a search will not search unread items. A Spotlight search will show the message but selecting it in Spotlight will not cause the message to show, because it's listed as unread. It would be nice if PM's search would internally search unviewed items and if selecting an item in Spotlight would show it even if the folder its in is 'View Unread'. Well, if you don't select a specific folder, but across all folders, PM will search even the unread items. Then you could search within results for whatever puts your mail in that folder. Which would work better if you could search on location ie the folder name. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Search
PowerMail Engineering on 9/2/05 said Barbara Needham wrote: and also I'd like to see when we have a search and it pulls up a huge list to be able to search within results. You can select all the messages in the search result window, and make a new search within selected messages. Ah... thank you. I hadn't realized that. Good thing! -- Barbara Needham
Search
Oh, and while we are on the subject of requests; someone mentioned saved search; that would be good; and also I'd like to see when we have a search and it pulls up a huge list to be able to search within results. -- Barbara Needham
Flags and/or
In the past I have been one of those that thought that labels could easily answer the flag question that some have been asking for. However, I have now switched over to the other side! I've noticed that lately I've wanted to go back and look up some information before I answer a mail; and the only good solutions at the moment for me is to mark it unread so I can easily find it. Flags by themselves wouldn't help much though, it seems that it would be necessary to have a window something like the recent-mail window that would collect all the flagged or for immediate action e-mails together into one spot. OK, I know others have been asking for this; it's just me that now has turned a corner to desire it also. -- Barbara Needham
Re: PM for AppleMail user?
THAT's why I forgot ... you have to use save as rather than export. Does dragging to desktop work?? Karel Gillissen on 9/1/05 said I am very new to Apple Mail. In fact I have been using it now occasionally for two weeks or so. (Reason is that I give Mac-support to relatives and friends who recently switched from the Wintel platform to the Mac, and I found out I never used Apple Mail, so it was hard to answer any questions about it) The way I get messages from Mail to PM (including attachments is: Select the messages to transfer in Mail Choose 'Save as' as format choose 'Source' and check the include attachment check-box. Mail saves the selected messages in a single file in it in Unix format and gives it the name of the first message in the list. import this file in PM with the import option (select Apple Mail in the 2nd screen of the assistant) The messages will appear in a folder named after the file you just imported, with the attachments attached. Karel Op donderdag, 1 september 2005 schreef Barbara Needham: Now I can't remember how I got it back in PM. I'll have to work on that again.
Re: PM for AppleMail user?
Neil Hughes on 9/1/05 said On 31/8/05 01:18, Barbara Needham wrote: Neil Hughes on 8/30/05 said On 27/8/05 16:01, Barbara Needham wrote: I have moved back and forth from PM to Apple Mail a couple of times and it is relatively seamless. I'm curious how people are able to do this - as mentioned in another email, I've had no luck getting any of my attachments exported from PowerMail and the only other solution I can come up, IMAP, keeps failing. Well, I don't have that many attachments to deal with. So maybe that's why I have no problems! :-) Yes, a lack of attachments is not something I can lay claim to. So, you've never had a problem exporting attachments? Presumably when you've done this it's been exporting to the Apple Mail format? I've found it works the best to export folder by folder and be sure to check include attachments in the export box. Then I export it directly to the library-mail folder. That when when opening MAIL application it picks it right up with no importing necessary at all. ~/Library/Mail/mailboxes Now I can't remember how I got it back in PM. I'll have to work on that again. -- Barbara Needham
Re: PM for AppleMail user?
Neil Hughes on 8/30/05 said On 27/8/05 16:01, Barbara Needham wrote: I have moved back and forth from PM to Apple Mail a couple of times and it is relatively seamless. I'm curious how people are able to do this - as mentioned in another email, I've had no luck getting any of my attachments exported from PowerMail and the only other solution I can come up, IMAP, keeps failing. Well, I don't have that many attachments to deal with. So maybe that's why I have no problems! -- Barbara Needham
Re: PM for AppleMail user?
A-NO-NE Music on 8/27/05 said When you are asked for recommendations, you need to know the competitors, which I don't. I only knew OutlookEx and Entourage both which I hated especially their unstable database. Eudora was out of question because of its Unicode support. And I don't know AppleMail at all. I never tried it. So, what should I tell them if there is anything they need to know by moving from AppleMail to PM? Anything negative one? I have moved back and forth from PM to Apple Mail a couple of times and it is relatively seamless. It's long enough ago I don't remember any particular problems. It seems to me there might have been some duplicating problems in picking up the same mail from the server again. Apple Mail does have a sort of threading [as we have discussed in this group before, it is more of a grouping by subject than true threading by message id] which they might miss in coming over to PM. Why I keep coming back to PM is being able to see ONLY my unread messages. Also I like PM search. Very much. -- Barbara Needham
Re: automating PowerMail
Steve Abrahamson on 8/25/05 said I'd feel a lot more comfortable doing this if PM remembered what was open when it quit. I could go for this: perhaps an option Remember state when closing. [except when having for force quit, of course] -- Barbara Needham
Re: copy address weirdness
Evie Leder on 6/21/05 said When you are reading a message is there a simple way of just grabbing someone's email address? Sometimes you just want the email address and not the whole: First Last [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not sure this is the only way or the best way ... but you can drag the address to the desktop and drag it back in to a new mail. That gives just the address. Dragging to the to line gives name and address. -- Barbara Needham
Re: [ANN] PowerMail 5.2.1 available
Mikael Byström on 6/16/05 said Yes. The downloaded dmg file says 5.1. This is only because you already have one pm5.dmg in that folder, right? Well, maybe so... but the ones for the beta said 5.2.whatever. confusing a bit. Unimportant in the end. -- Barbara Needham
Re: [ANN] PowerMail 5.2.1 available
A-NO-NE Music on 6/15/05 said Barbara Needham / 2005/06/15 / 01:44 PM wrote: Downloaded and installed, but be aware that the dmg file still says 5.1, although the other stuff is ok at 5.2 etc. Really? 'Coz my produced folder said PowerMail.1 (not my typo), while .dmg says pm5, pretty weird :-f Do you think we have the same package? Yes. The downloaded dmg file says 5.1. The folder says PowerMail.1 The about when all is installed says 5.2.1. -- Barbara Needham
Re: [ANN] PowerMail 5.2.1 available
PowerMail info on 6/15/05 said Dear PowerMail-discuss and PowerMail-testing listmembers, We are pleased to announce the availability of PowerMail 5.2.1, now downloadable from: http://www.ctmdev.com/download.html Downloaded and installed, but be aware that the dmg file still says 5.1, although the other stuff is ok at 5.2 etc. -- Barbara Needham
Re: IMAP and version 5.2
michael on 6/11/05 said Hi Folks, I'm a very long time user of PowerMail classic, and just recently upgraded to version 5.2. The conversion process was almost painless, even though I have over 10,000 emails in the database. My problem is that of hard failures (spinning beach ball) after fetching mail from an IMAP account. This is on a dual G4/450, running Panther 10.3.5 Next to the Panther mac, is my original G3/266 which has been running PowerMail version 3.2 for 3 years, and others long before that. Version 5.2 fails more than 50% of the time fetching IMAP traffic from the same server that version 3.2 has absolutely no trouble with. In side-by-side tests, when version 5.2 fails, I force quit, call up classic version 3.2, and it has no trouble fetching the mail. Leave the mail on the server, quit classic, call up 5.2 again, and crash... Sometimes I can sign on to the IMAP server via a browser, delete some spam, read some messages, and then try again with PM and it works ok for a whilethen again some new message (I guess) causes it to get hung up. This is so demonstrable, that I can't believe that no one else has seen it. I haven't seen it. -- Barbara Needham
Re: [ANN] private 5.2.1b1 available
PowerMail info on 6/10/05 said * The load images button (when displaying an HTML message, and image display is turned off in the preferences) did not work with Mac OS X 10.3.9 or Tiger This still doesn't work quite correctly. Sequence: show html, works, no images. load images, reverts to text show in web browser: DOES show images, which mine did NOT do before. THEN load images does work, which it did not do before. OR: show html, works, no images load images, reverts to text show html, works, shows spaces for images load images, now works. I have only tried this on two message so far; of this type [which doesn't display the text]: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Accucast Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable and this [which is properly formatted and displays text when text only is selected]: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=mpBoundaryString Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -- Barbara Needham
Re: PM on Mactels?
Ben Kennedy on 6/9/05 said (similar to saying Xbox 360 has PowerPC, now we should be able to run Mac OS X on it!) Well, someone did do this, I read... they said it ran really really slow. -- Barbara Needham
Re: PM on Mactels?
Tom Miller on 6/8/05 said Okay, I'll ask. Will PowerMail be running on Mactels when the first ones are shipped in a year? The received wisdom is that all OS X apps will run and no classic apps will. That was the information we received at fmug [fresno] from a developer last night. Hopefully the developers will get needed information in time. -- Barbara Needham
Re: 5.2 Spinning Beachball
Richard Hart on 6/5/05 said Is anyone else experiencing a gradual corruption of 5.2 databases? Here are the symptoms: PM 5.2 works fine for 4 or 5 days. Then, every action begins with a spinning beach ball for a few seconds. Then a spinning beach ball for a few minutes. Eventually, the beach ball spins forever. The database becomes unreadable. I had this identical experience on an iMac, a Dual 2GHz G5, a 733MHz G4, and a new iBook. The first uses a dial-up connection, the next two a DSL router, and the fourth a wireless connection. The only common link is that they are all using OS 10.3.9. I have reverted them all to PM 5.1, and they are working fine, using a backup of the 5.1 version of the databases. However, the 5.2 databases appear to be unrecoverable. Well, I DID have a problem but after many hours of rebuilding [and eventually figuring out that process was made shorter by turning off Norton Anti-Virus] all seems to be well now. I do have the latest update, 5.2b4 build. At least I think that is the latest one. -- Barbara Needham
Re: IMAP and WASTE
I guess the question Rick raised, is, are there any advantages to using IMAP over using a pop server which allows web access. There is one I can think of: Even with web access, while I can have folders on my web mail and folders on my local mail, these folders do not have the same content. Using IMAP, you can have folders on your local machine which exactly match the folders on the server. Eventually the storage space will be filled up in either case. I have not found any web-based pop server [there may be] in which you can download the contents of a web folder to your local machine without transferring the contents first to the inbox and there are some that won't even allow that work around. That being said, I still prefer pop mail but keep my dot mac account as both pop and imap for certain things that I want to access on a folder by folder basis from a different location. It isn't my main mail address though. -- Barbara Needham
Re: IMAP strategies
listes on 5/27/05 said Daniele Procida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is it possible to filter IMAP mail? As far as I remember, the couple Powermail/Spamsieve that existed one year ago (many version upgrades since then) *did* allow SpamSieve to filter IMAP email, but I tested it only to color mails, I don't know wether the related applescript could have *moved* the mails on the imap server. I'd be interested if you manage to do it. The partial solution I have found is to download my mail by pop [leave messages on server] and connect by IMAP. [dot mac server, that may make a difference]. This enables spam to be deleted by the pop download and at the later imap connection it is gone. However, it doesn't help the filtering into folders problem; I get so little mail on that particular server that it isn't a problem to move it individually but for the volume of mail it sounds like in question here, wouldn't help much. Did that make sense? -- Barbara Needham
Re: Quoting signatures
Daniele Procida on 5/27/05 said On Thu, May 26, 2005, Barbara Needham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just about the one thing about PowerMail that regularly annoys me (not bad to have one annoying thing in a program that I use for a significant proportion of every single day) is that it quotes signatures in replies. A properly delimited signature should be jettisoned, not quoted in replies. But my solution is to highlight the text I want to reply to excluding the signature and that does about the same thing. [Workaround for above problem] Of course there are ways round it. But since there is almost never a good reason to quote a signature, then it would make sense only to quote it if it has been deliberately selected. Oh, yes, on the whole I agree with your point. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Display of HTML mails
Gunther Bohnert on 5/25/05 said I'm having problems displaying HTML mails. My standard setup is to prefer the text version if available and not load external images automatically. So if I switch to HTML display I have the 'load images' button available. But klicking this won't load the images. If I change the setup to load images automatically all works fine. Loading the file in Safari works fine as well. This behaviour started after the update to 10.3.9 and continued with Tiger and PM 5.2. I can report the same problem. Clicking the load images button simply reverts back to the plain text version of the mail. Same setup as you, except mine don't seem to load in the browser either. Not Safari, though, so that may be the problem on that one. It's attempting to display the image by using the image button where my behavior matches yours. 10.3.9 and PM 5.2. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Backing up before updating to 5.2
Frank Mitchell on 5/24/05 said In an earlier message, Marlyse mentions ...from the Finder action menu choose 'make archive'. I can't find this in the menus. Where and what is it - I am still using OS X 10.2.8 ? Added in 10.3.x. Sorry. Basically it zips a file or folder to make a zip archive of it. -- Barbara Needham
Re: development direction
Mark Smith on 5/11/05 said - IMAP support - simultaneous connections to more than one server ? Maybe you can do this now. I couldn't tell as I only have one imap account. - filtering of messages into server-side mailboxes ? Don't know. - syncing with IMAP mailboxes other than inbox ? Works now. - Spotlight - indexing (and display) of additional attributes for Spotlight searching ? This is new ... and I don't have Tiger so can't say. - Filtering - association of filters with mailboxes (distributed filtering) ? Yes, you can write almost any filter. Setup Mail Filters. By using a judicious combination of the choices it is [almost] like writing your own filter. - PM Search - savable queries ? - smart queries ? Well, not sure what you mean by smart ones; an or search can be approximated. Savable, at the present time not that I know. - Security - built-in support for PGP or similar ? You can use some sort of PGP with PowerMail, but I don't use it so I can't give details. Secure SMTP was added with the last release. - Spam - ability to have more than one of the possible anti-Spam techniques running ? e.g. Spam Sieve *and* ISP headers Yes, by using your filters ... again Setup mail filters. Most configurable filter system of the mail applications I have tried with the exception of Forte Agent for windows. I've tried Mail, Thunderbird, Entourage. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Attachment compression
Well, I like zip. Even in Jaguar I added my own Zipit. Andy Fragen on 5/10/05 said Barbara, I think it originated in Panther, but I don't know. A quick Google search didn't help. At the very least I think it should be an option to use the built-in zip compression as the default compression method. You don't necessarily have to remove the StuffIt option, but clearly Apple is moving away from it. -- Andy Fragen PBG4 1.33GHz/1.25GB RAM - OS X 10.4 - PowerMail v5.2b3 PowerMail AppleScript Archives: http://www.ctmdev.com/tools/ On Tue, May 10, 2005, Barbara Needham said: Andy Fragen on 5/10/05 said Currently, Tiger ships without StuffIt. The built-in compression method is a zip archive. Since PowerMail 5 is only supported on OS X, is there any reason not to change PM's built-in compression options to be zip instead of StuffIt. As long as it works in Jaguar and Panther as well as Tiger -- does it? -- Barbara Needham
Re: Attachment compression
Andy Fragen on 5/10/05 said Currently, Tiger ships without StuffIt. The built-in compression method is a zip archive. Since PowerMail 5 is only supported on OS X, is there any reason not to change PM's built-in compression options to be zip instead of StuffIt. As long as it works in Jaguar and Panther as well as Tiger -- does it? -- Barbara Needham
Schedulings and Locations
I finally figured it out and solved what I was trying to do. I see why the check boxes don't change under Connection ... so I keep the check boxes set to the one way I want to work, and choose under schedulings and locations the other way I want to work; now I can switch easily between them. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Failing Mail Filters
Steve Abrahamson on 5/9/05 said On 5/9/05 at 9:06 AM, Barbara Needham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Steve Abrahamson on 5/9/05 said Anyone else getting occasional but regular misfires on Filters? No... hesitates ... just occasionally my very first filter to label one account's mail [green] will miss one. It is set to NOT stop filtering so otherwise the mail is filtered as expected. Suggestions which you have probably thought of: Checking your preferences/spam filter settings in powermail. Checking to see if your filters do say to file in specific folder, once in a while I fool myself and the filter actually says file in IN tray instead of the folder I really wanted it in. Other than that I have no idea. Barbara, Of course I've checked and re-checked. :-) And more to the logic on that: the filters work fine most of the time. Then a piece of email will get through improperly, or get missed. Well, I don't know then. From your signature I assume that you have done all repairs possible on PM database. Too bad you can't follow a filter through its iterations. well, you know, that might be something to try... take one of those red messages that shouldn't be red and run it through the filters to see what happens. Maybe de-red it first. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Yahoo Mail Access via PM?
John Leiher on 5/9/05 said Is there any way to access a Yahoo Mail account through Powermail - and if so, how is it done? Thanks in advance. Yes but you have to pay for the privilege. Pay Yahoo, that is. It isn't much, $20 for the year to be able to download pop mail. Then you enter it like any other pop server. There are intermediary scripts people have written for accessing web-mail via pop. You can search for those! Whether or not they'd work with PM I have no idea. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Brain Dead Monday
John Maylone on 5/9/05 said Could someone give me a jump start today? I have had my PowerMail set up to show the simple headers in the lower browser window.. starting yesterday, it quit showing them on some mails... I'm feeling pretty stupid right now. I can't figure out what's going on and how to get it back to where it was and where I want it.just showing the simple headers. I have not changed my preferences for the display, and don't recall having had this problem before. If you mean you are seeing the full header instead of only the simple header, it is in the view menu. I do this a lot. Forget I have full headers turned on that is. If you are not seeing what you want in the simple header, that is under preferences, display. If you are not seeing any header at all I don't know. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Locations
Regarding Mail Schedulings and Locations A-NO-NE Music on 5/8/05 said Click left side of the entry name so orange (yellow?) circle shows up to tell you which one is active. I knew it was really simple and that I was missing something! Thanks. OK, I now can change mail schedulings and locations using the setup menu or the applescript which changes it. But under Connection Connect still shows my default settings, not the settings that I changed it to. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Failing Mail Filters
Steve Abrahamson on 5/9/05 said Anyone else getting occasional but regular misfires on Filters? No... hesitates ... just occasionally my very first filter to label one account's mail [green] will miss one. It is set to NOT stop filtering so otherwise the mail is filtered as expected. Suggestions which you have probably thought of: Checking your preferences/spam filter settings in powermail. Checking to see if your filters do say to file in specific folder, once in a while I fool myself and the filter actually says file in IN tray instead of the folder I really wanted it in. Other than that I have no idea. -- Barbara Needham
Re: Locations
A-NO-NE Music on 5/8/05 said Barbara Needham / 2005/05/08 / 07:44 PM wrote: I feel really dumb asking this but... I know how to Setup Mail Schedulings and Locations but Once they are set up how do I tell PowerMail which one to use? Click left side of the entry name so orange (yellow?) circle shows up to tell you which one is active. I knew it was really simple and that I was missing something! Thanks. -- Barbara Needham
Locations
I feel really dumb asking this but... I know how to Setup Mail Schedulings and Locations but Once they are set up how do I tell PowerMail which one to use? -- Barbara Needham
Re: Import Attachments
Evie Leder on 4/28/05 said Rick, That's what I thought, too. But, I tried moving an attachment to the new folder. I quit and restarted PM. The link in the email still reads: Ahh... I think I see. Rick did not say, quit and restart PowerMail. He said de-select and re-select the MESSAGE. Does that work? On one e-mail and its lost or not-lost attachment? This message has the following attachments: file://localhost/Users/evie/Library/Mail/Attachments/2004-10001%20- %20Evie%20Leder.pdf But it is not greyed out, but it does not link to the new location. I tried using the Reattach lost attachments but no luck. If I move the file back to the path in the above link, it works again. Thanks again for the replies. :) Evie Evie, I think you may be worrying unnecessarily! If the attachments exist as files and those files are already linked to the emails in PowerMail (and those links are live, ie. not greyed out) the you should be home and dry, because PM should keep track of the attachments as you move them around. There is something to note here however: if you have a message selected and move its attachment in the finder, the attachment in PM will become greyed out. Oh no!you think, It's lost the link!. But it hasn't deselect the message and reselect it again, and you'll see that your attachment link is as good as new, as PM has tracked its prey to its new location. So: IF your attachments are already linked to the correct emails, my bet is that if you move the attachments PM will keep track of where they are. Try it with just one and see. Hope this helps; Rick -- G5 2GHz x2 :: 2GB RAM :: 10.3.8 :: PM 5.1 :: 3 pane mode -- Original message: Received from Evie Leder on 28/4/05 at 7:20 pm Hi, The attachments are located in the Home-Library-Mail-Attachments folder The emails are LINKED to the attachments. At the bottom of the email there is a link that says: This message has the following attachments: file://localhost/Users/evie/Library/Mail/Attachments/2004-10001%20- %20Evie%20Leder%231.pdf But, I see this as a problem. I want them to be in my PM attachments folder. Plus, recently I had to re-install ALL of my software, and inadvertantly did not back up Mail, because, well, I don't use Mail. Luckily I had a backup and was able to restore all of my old attachments. Jerome said that PM should import all of the attachments, but it did not. And now I am months into using PM and my attachments, while still attached, live in Mail's attachments folder. Not good. Does that help explain it a bit better? All new incoming attachments DO go into the PM Attachments folder. I'd like to move all the attachments to PM attachments folder, but will have to relink them 1 by 1, right? Thanks for replying! Evie -- Barbara Needham
Re: Import Attachments
Frank, see below; I think I misunderstood her question and perhaps you can figure out what she should do: Frank Mitchell on 4/28/05 said Hello Evie, Evie Leder on 4/27/05 said Hi, I'm sorry about asking this again, but I am perplexed and frustrated. Jerome said: extracted and saved in your PowerMail attachment folder This never happened, they did not get imported into PM. Now what? Please help? OK... a couple of questions. Do you know where these attachments are at all? Are they completely lost, or can you identify a folder that they are in. That's just a beginning question to start from. The names of the attachments should still be listed at the bottom of the emails to which they were attached. Do a Find (command - f) on your hard drive for one of more of the name(s). If you still have them they will probably all be in the same folder. I imported from Claris Email-Mail-Powermail, and while my attachments still are there and linked, PM left them in the Mail Library, did nopt copy and move them into PM files. Mail stores the attachments inside the mail database; when you import to PowerMail, they are extracted and saved in your PowerMail attachment folder, which is by default located in the same folder as your PowerMail database (but you can change its location in the prefs). Are you sure the attachments are not in this folder? Oh, and I seem to have an Applescript called reattach lost attachments. Does anyone know what this does? If PowerMail have lost the location of an attached file, but the file still exists on your disk, you can reattach it to the message, but it is a manual operation, message per message. PowerMail is supposed to keep track of the attachments even if they have been dragged outside of the attachment folder. However if you move your database and attached files to a different disk or machine, the attachments that have been moved outside of the attachment folder can be lost, if they have been renamed or modified. So, apparently she still has the attachments but they have become disconnected from the e-mail. Well, now I don't know what the question is. If the attachments are still linked to their e-mail, is it a problem where they are? If they are moved en-masse from the Library folder to the Power Mail attachments folder? I'm beginning to think I don't know what I'm talking about... Evie, could you restate your question in terms that I can understand? Are the attachments still attached to their respective e-mails? -- Barbara Needham
