Re: PowerMail Wish - In/Out trays
Thanks Andy,
Works great! :-)
Max G
At Thu, 22 Apr 2004 10:28:59 -0700 (CET), Andy Fragen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro*
>Done. The 'count messages' portion comes from someone else's script and I
>don't know who to give the credit to.
>
>
>property preMsg : "You currently have: " & return
>property postcC : " Message folders"
>property postfC : " Message Filters"
>property postclC : " Text Clippings"
>property postsigC : " Signatures"
>property postMsgs : " Messages"
>property ret : return
>property bttnList : {"Thanks", "Put on Clipboard"}
>property defBttn : "Put on Clipboard"
>
>to concatenateData(cCnt, fCnt, clCnt, sigCnt, ctMsg)
> return (preMsg & ctMsg & postMsgs & ret & cCnt & postcC & ret & fCnt &
>postfC & ret & clCnt & postclC & ret & sigCnt & postsigC)
>end concatenateData
>
>to displayTotals(statsTxt)
> set the dialogBttn to the button returned of (display dialog statsTxt
>buttons bttnList default button 2)
> if the dialogBttn is the defBttn then
> set the clipboard to the statsTxt
> beep
> end if
>end displayTotals
>
>tell application "PowerMail 5.0b12"
> set the containerCnt to count message container
> repeat with i from 1 to containerCnt
> set subContainerCnt to count message containers of message
> container i
> set containerCnt to containerCnt + subContainerCnt
> end repeat
> set the filterCnt to count filters
> set the clipCnt to count text clippings
> set the sigCnt to count text signatures
> set ctMsg to 0
> repeat with acontainer in every message container
> set ctMsg to ctMsg + (my count_messages(acontainer))
> end repeat
> set the statsTxt to my concatenateData(containerCnt, filterCnt, clipCnt,
>sigCnt, ctMsg)
> my displayTotals(the statsTxt)
>end tell
>-- The above will count your PowerMail; message folders, filters, text
>clippings
>-- and the text signatures and display the information in a dialog.
>-- The dialog will give you an option to put the entire results
>-- onto the clipboard.
>
>(* this recursive function receives a message container (folder). It first
> calls itself for every sub-container of the input container, summing up
> the number of messages stored in them, and last, adds the number of
> messages in the input container itself.
>*)
>to count_messages(input_container)
> tell application "PowerMail 5.0b12"
> set c to 0
> repeat with bcontainer in every message container in
> input_container
> set c to c + (my count_messages(bcontainer))
> end repeat
>
> set c to c + (number of messages in input_container)
> return c
> end tell
>end count_messages
>
>
>--
>Andy Fragen
>
>On Thu, Apr 22, 2004, Max Gossell said:
>
>>Ehh -- would it be possible to add "total messages in database" to this
>>script...?
>
>
>
>
Re: PowerMail Wish - In/Out trays
*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro*
Done. The 'count messages' portion comes from someone else's script and I
don't know who to give the credit to.
property preMsg : "You currently have: " & return
property postcC : " Message folders"
property postfC : " Message Filters"
property postclC : " Text Clippings"
property postsigC : " Signatures"
property postMsgs : " Messages"
property ret : return
property bttnList : {"Thanks", "Put on Clipboard"}
property defBttn : "Put on Clipboard"
to concatenateData(cCnt, fCnt, clCnt, sigCnt, ctMsg)
return (preMsg & ctMsg & postMsgs & ret & cCnt & postcC & ret & fCnt &
postfC & ret & clCnt & postclC & ret & sigCnt & postsigC)
end concatenateData
to displayTotals(statsTxt)
set the dialogBttn to the button returned of (display dialog statsTxt
buttons bttnList default button 2)
if the dialogBttn is the defBttn then
set the clipboard to the statsTxt
beep
end if
end displayTotals
tell application "PowerMail 5.0b12"
set the containerCnt to count message container
repeat with i from 1 to containerCnt
set subContainerCnt to count message containers of message
container i
set containerCnt to containerCnt + subContainerCnt
end repeat
set the filterCnt to count filters
set the clipCnt to count text clippings
set the sigCnt to count text signatures
set ctMsg to 0
repeat with acontainer in every message container
set ctMsg to ctMsg + (my count_messages(acontainer))
end repeat
set the statsTxt to my concatenateData(containerCnt, filterCnt, clipCnt,
sigCnt, ctMsg)
my displayTotals(the statsTxt)
end tell
-- The above will count your PowerMail; message folders, filters, text
clippings
-- and the text signatures and display the information in a dialog.
-- The dialog will give you an option to put the entire results
-- onto the clipboard.
(* this recursive function receives a message container (folder). It first
calls itself for every sub-container of the input container, summing up
the number of messages stored in them, and last, adds the number of
messages in the input container itself.
*)
to count_messages(input_container)
tell application "PowerMail 5.0b12"
set c to 0
repeat with bcontainer in every message container in
input_container
set c to c + (my count_messages(bcontainer))
end repeat
set c to c + (number of messages in input_container)
return c
end tell
end count_messages
--
Andy Fragen
On Thu, Apr 22, 2004, Max Gossell said:
>Ehh -- would it be possible to add "total messages in database" to this
>script...?
Re: PowerMail Wish - In/Out trays
Ehh -- would it be possible to add "total messages in database" to this
script...?
Max G
At Wed, 21 Apr 2004 07:23:53 -0700 (CET), Andy Fragen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro*
>This doesn't count subfolders on my install. Here's a fix for it.
>
>
>property preMsg : "You currently have: " & return
>property postcC : " Message folders"
>property postfC : " Message Filters"
>property postclC : " Text Clippings"
>property postsigC : " Signatures"
>property ret : return
>property bttnList : {"Thanks", "Put on Clipboard"}
>property defBttn : "Put on Clipboard"
>
>to concatenateData(cCnt, fCnt, clCnt, sigCnt)
> return (preMsg & cCnt & postcC & ret & fCnt & postfC & ret & clCnt &
>postclC & ret & sigCnt & postsigC)
>end concatenateData
>
>to displayTotals(statsTxt)
> set the dialogBttn to the button returned of (display dialog statsTxt
>buttons bttnList default button 2)
> if the dialogBttn is the defBttn then
> set the clipboard to the statsTxt
> beep
> end if
>end displayTotals
>
>tell application "PowerMail"
> set the containerCnt to count message containers
> repeat with i from 1 to containerCnt
> set subContainerCnt to count message containers of message
> container i
> set containerCnt to containerCnt + subContainerCnt
> end repeat
> set the filterCnt to count filters
> set the clipCnt to count text clippings
> set the sigCnt to count text signatures
> set the statsTxt to my concatenateData(containerCnt, filterCnt, clipCnt,
>sigCnt)
> my displayTotals(the statsTxt)
>end tell
>-- The above will count your PowerMail; message folders, filters, text
>clippings
>-- and the text signatures and display the information in a dialog.
>-- The dialog will give you an option to put the entire results
>-- onto the clipboard.
>
>
>--
>Andy Fragen
>
>On Sat, Apr 10, 2004, cheshirekat said:
>
>>BTW, here's an AppleScript you can use so that you don't have to manually
>>count your folders and filters - just in case you don't already have such
>>an AppleScript:
>>
>>
>>property preMsg : "You currently have: " & return
>>property postcC : " Message folders"
>>property postfC : " Message Filters"
>>property postclC : " Text Clippings"
>>property postsigC : " Signatures"
>>property ret : return
>>property bttnList : {"Thanks", "Put on Clipboard"}
>>property defBttn : "Put on Clipboard"
>>
>>to concatenateData(cCnt, fCnt, clCnt, sigCnt)
>> return (preMsg & cCnt & postcC & ret & fCnt & postfC & ret & clCnt &
>>postclC & ret & sigCnt & postsigC)
>>end concatenateData
>>
>>to displayTotals(statsTxt)
>> set the dialogBttn to the button returned of (display dialog statsTxt
>>buttons bttnList default button 2)
>> if the dialogBttn is the defBttn then
>> set the clipboard to the statsTxt
>> beep
>> end if
>>end displayTotals
>>
>>tell application "PowerMail"
>> set the containerCnt to count message containers
>> set the filterCnt to count filters
>> set the clipCnt to count text clippings
>> set the sigCnt to count text signatures
>> set the statsTxt to my concatenateData(containerCnt, filterCnt, clipCnt,
>>sigCnt)
>> my displayTotals(the statsTxt)
>>end tell
>>-- The above will count your PowerMail; message folders, filters, text
>>clippings
>>-- and the text signatures and display the information in a dialog.
>>-- The dialog will give you an option to put the entire results
>>-- onto the clipboard.
>>
>
>
>
>
Re: PowerMail Wish - In/Out trays
*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro*
This doesn't count subfolders on my install. Here's a fix for it.
property preMsg : "You currently have: " & return
property postcC : " Message folders"
property postfC : " Message Filters"
property postclC : " Text Clippings"
property postsigC : " Signatures"
property ret : return
property bttnList : {"Thanks", "Put on Clipboard"}
property defBttn : "Put on Clipboard"
to concatenateData(cCnt, fCnt, clCnt, sigCnt)
return (preMsg & cCnt & postcC & ret & fCnt & postfC & ret & clCnt &
postclC & ret & sigCnt & postsigC)
end concatenateData
to displayTotals(statsTxt)
set the dialogBttn to the button returned of (display dialog statsTxt
buttons bttnList default button 2)
if the dialogBttn is the defBttn then
set the clipboard to the statsTxt
beep
end if
end displayTotals
tell application "PowerMail"
set the containerCnt to count message containers
repeat with i from 1 to containerCnt
set subContainerCnt to count message containers of message
container i
set containerCnt to containerCnt + subContainerCnt
end repeat
set the filterCnt to count filters
set the clipCnt to count text clippings
set the sigCnt to count text signatures
set the statsTxt to my concatenateData(containerCnt, filterCnt, clipCnt,
sigCnt)
my displayTotals(the statsTxt)
end tell
-- The above will count your PowerMail; message folders, filters, text
clippings
-- and the text signatures and display the information in a dialog.
-- The dialog will give you an option to put the entire results
-- onto the clipboard.
--
Andy Fragen
On Sat, Apr 10, 2004, cheshirekat said:
>BTW, here's an AppleScript you can use so that you don't have to manually
>count your folders and filters - just in case you don't already have such
>an AppleScript:
>
>
>property preMsg : "You currently have: " & return
>property postcC : " Message folders"
>property postfC : " Message Filters"
>property postclC : " Text Clippings"
>property postsigC : " Signatures"
>property ret : return
>property bttnList : {"Thanks", "Put on Clipboard"}
>property defBttn : "Put on Clipboard"
>
>to concatenateData(cCnt, fCnt, clCnt, sigCnt)
> return (preMsg & cCnt & postcC & ret & fCnt & postfC & ret & clCnt &
>postclC & ret & sigCnt & postsigC)
>end concatenateData
>
>to displayTotals(statsTxt)
> set the dialogBttn to the button returned of (display dialog statsTxt
>buttons bttnList default button 2)
> if the dialogBttn is the defBttn then
> set the clipboard to the statsTxt
> beep
> end if
>end displayTotals
>
>tell application "PowerMail"
> set the containerCnt to count message containers
> set the filterCnt to count filters
> set the clipCnt to count text clippings
> set the sigCnt to count text signatures
> set the statsTxt to my concatenateData(containerCnt, filterCnt, clipCnt,
>sigCnt)
> my displayTotals(the statsTxt)
>end tell
>-- The above will count your PowerMail; message folders, filters, text
>clippings
>-- and the text signatures and display the information in a dialog.
>-- The dialog will give you an option to put the entire results
>-- onto the clipboard.
>
Re: List Policy (was: PowerMail Wish - In/Out trays)
[Max Gossell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 13.4.2004 um 12:12 Uhr:] >... the last thing you need is a >"superior pat on the head", telling you your way of thinking isn't in >accordance ... Most problems come from thinking in only one way ... -- http://www.subhash.at
Re: List Policy (was: PowerMail Wish - In/Out trays)
>I really love this list and its helpful and very active members. And I >have no problems with humorous comments and a good laugh either. But I >think we could spare ourselves some needless irritation if we could keep >more academic and philosophical discussions regarding email behaviour and >organization in separate threads instead of as direct answers to tech >help questions. 2-ché
List Policy (was: PowerMail Wish - In/Out trays)
At Sat, 10 Apr 2004 18:03:37 -0700 (CET), Frank Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>Right now I have 85 folder, 108 sub-folders and 74 sub-sub-folders. That >>>makes a total of 267 today. There will be more in the future and they are >>>constantly changing. >> >>Maybe you have to think over your system of order .. :-) > >I would if my system didn't already work fine for me 8^D > >If it ain't broke I don't fix it! > >I won't bother explaining why I have so many folders - we all have >different requirements and work a little differently. > >Regards, >Frank > >-- Frank Mitchell, Scottsdale, Arizona Good comment. Whenever somebody asks for something PM can not do, this list has a tendency to give you not asked-for advices about re-organize your workflow or way of thinking. I really appreciate answers like "it can't be done, but maybe you can try this..", like for instance once Hiro (at least I think it was Hiro) suggested using personal "ascii codes" for filtering certain outgoing messages. That's constructive. But all these wise guy comments like this one regarding i.e. signatures... > You can easily solve this problem by having just one signature. > To each their own, but what is all this obsession people have with > signatures? ...are non-constructive and often patronizing and badly thought-through. I think it's pretty clear the general user level in this list is far past beginner's level, and we should be able to discuss different issues without being forced to "defend" particular ways in which we like to use the application, as Frank points out. If looking for a way to solve a particular -- and perhaps urgent -- problem, the last thing you need is a "superior pat on the head", telling you your way of thinking isn't in accordance with the high ideals of some self-appointed email procedure police. I really love this list and its helpful and very active members. And I have no problems with humorous comments and a good laugh either. But I think we could spare ourselves some needless irritation if we could keep more academic and philosophical discussions regarding email behaviour and organization in separate threads instead of as direct answers to tech help questions. Max G
Re: PowerMail Wish - In/Out trays
*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* Nice script, but it only counts top level folders. It doesn't count any subfolders. :-( -- Andy Fragen On Sat, Apr 10, 2004, cheshirekat said: >BTW, here's an AppleScript you can use so that you don't have to manually >count your folders and filters - just in case you don't already have such >an AppleScript:
Re(2): PowerMail Wish - In/Out trays
>>Right now I have 85 folder, 108 sub-folders and 74 sub-sub-folders. That >>makes a total of 267 today. There will be more in the future and they are >>constantly changing. > >Maybe you have to think over your system of order .. :-) I would if my system didn't already work fine for me 8^D If it ain't broke I don't fix it! I won't bother explaining why I have so many folders - we all have different requirements and work a little differently. Regards, Frank -- Frank Mitchell, Scottsdale, Arizona
Re(2): PowerMail Wish - In/Out trays
[Frank Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 9.4.2004 um 18:41 Uhr:] >Right now I have 85 folder, 108 sub-folders and 74 sub-sub-folders. That >makes a total of 267 today. There will be more in the future and they are >constantly changing. Maybe you have to think over your system of order .. :-) -- http://www.subhash.at
Re: PowerMail Wish - In/Out trays
On Fri, Apr 09, 2004, the following words from Frank Mitchell
[EMAIL PROTECTED], emerged from a plethora of SPAM ...
>Just for fun I counted my current folders.
>
>Right now I have 85 folder, 108 sub-folders and 74 sub-sub-folders. That
>makes a total of 267 today. There will be more in the future and they are
>constantly changing.
>
>If I understood you correctly, I am not about to load up PM with 267
>filters and give myself the job of keeping them all up to date. I would
>like PM to do the job for me in the same way it does my incoming mail.
Frank,
When I used Claris Emailer I had about 3 times as many filters and
folders as I currently have in PowerMail. The only reason I have just 67
folders and 81 filters at the moment is because I've been considering
switching to a different email client. With Claris Emailer, I could
reliably use AppleScripts in my filters, and I wasn't nearly as
meticulous or organized then as I am these days. Unfortunately, from what
I've gleaned from gripes from the users of other email programs, there
just isn't yet an email program that does everything I want. Although
Entourage probably comes the closest, and I have already paid for it when
I bought Office X.
Once you have the majority of your folders and filters set up, it's just
a matter of taking the time for maintenance and modifications. Even with
the amount of filters you currently have, you don't find that you truly
get to rest without a tweak, addition or big modification, do you? The
hardest part is starting with a new email client. I haven't really used
Apple's Mail for several months, but I have gone in and made changes to
the filters when I'm perturbed that PM won't do something I want it to
do. Then I usually just return to PM after Apple's Mail won't do
something I want it to do either. I still fume about PM about once a
week, but I don't have near as much time to check out other options as
thoroughly as I'd like to, so I spend more time working with the things
PM gets right. I too change my filters and folders frequently and the
majority of my email doesn't even stay in PowerMail very long before
getting AppleScripted to FileMaker Pro. Nonetheless, when I'm working in
PowerMail, I get some satisfaction out of my efforts when my filters have
my email falling right into their proper designations with proper labels
and such.
BTW, here's an AppleScript you can use so that you don't have to manually
count your folders and filters - just in case you don't already have such
an AppleScript:
property preMsg : "You currently have: " & return
property postcC : " Message folders"
property postfC : " Message Filters"
property postclC : " Text Clippings"
property postsigC : " Signatures"
property ret : return
property bttnList : {"Thanks", "Put on Clipboard"}
property defBttn : "Put on Clipboard"
to concatenateData(cCnt, fCnt, clCnt, sigCnt)
return (preMsg & cCnt & postcC & ret & fCnt & postfC & ret & clCnt &
postclC & ret & sigCnt & postsigC)
end concatenateData
to displayTotals(statsTxt)
set the dialogBttn to the button returned of (display dialog statsTxt
buttons bttnList default button 2)
if the dialogBttn is the defBttn then
set the clipboard to the statsTxt
beep
end if
end displayTotals
tell application "PowerMail"
set the containerCnt to count message containers
set the filterCnt to count filters
set the clipCnt to count text clippings
set the sigCnt to count text signatures
set the statsTxt to my concatenateData(containerCnt, filterCnt, clipCnt,
sigCnt)
my displayTotals(the statsTxt)
end tell
-- The above will count your PowerMail; message folders, filters, text
clippings
-- and the text signatures and display the information in a dialog.
-- The dialog will give you an option to put the entire results
-- onto the clipboard.
cheshirekat
--
Sometimes even to live is an act of courage.
- Lucius Annaeus Seneca, writer and philosopher
* 867 PowerBook G4 * OS X 10.2.8 * 768 MB Ram *
Re: PowerMail Wish - In/Out trays
At Fri, 9 Apr 2004 18:25:41 -0400 (CET), Tim Lapin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 2:37 PM, Frank Mitchell sent forth: > >>Have a "File in after sending" popup menu in the outgoing message window >>similar to that in the incoming message window. >> >>Right now, to file his sent messages, the user has to open the Out Tray, >>scroll to the desired folder, open it to show the sub-folder (if >>necessary) and drag the Sent message into it. Then repeat this for every >>message sent. >> >>-- Frank Mitchell, Scottsdale, Arizona >> > >Not so. > >There are two options for automation available: > >1) Use the "General" Preferences to set a default folder for sent mail. > >2) Use filters to move sent mail to an appropriate folder. > >Now it is true that one-off choices are manual but I've found that those >happen rarely, if ever. Essentially all my outgoing mail is >automatically moved to the appropriate folder and I can't recall a time >when I couldn't classify my outgoing mail with a permanent filter. The fact that one-off mails are rare for you doesn't automatically mean they are rare for everybody else. I'm a musician, and I use one public email address for all kinds of correspondance with fans, sponsors, musicians, agents, composers who want us to play their work, concert and festival producers etc. Now, as soon as some kind of steady contact is established it's easy enough to create a special sorting filter for that contact BUT the majority of my outgoing mails are "once and never again". A "file after sending" feature would hugely speed up handling this kind of mails. Max G
Re: PowerMail Wish - In/Out trays
On Fri, Apr 09, 2004, the following words from Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED], emerged from a plethora of SPAM ... >Now it is true that one-off choices are manual but I've found that those >happen rarely, if ever. Essentially all my outgoing mail is >automatically moved to the appropriate folder and I can't recall a time >when I couldn't classify my outgoing mail with a permanent filter. > >In case anybody thinks I've got a dead simple setup, I should tell you >that I successfully use PowerMail to manage 28 folders, including 1 >subfolder plus 4 or 5 accounts each with their own set of filters. >Included in that is the administration of 2 mailing lists. Yes, I agree that an email client should be powerful enough to utilize several folders and filters. I'm always amazed when people don't use the filters and folders to organize and sort email. My husband, who uses Yahoo, has only created one folder; "Save" for messages he removes from his Inbox. I once had a boss that didn't know that she could set up filters in Outlook. She wanted to show me a message she had received and was scrolling through several hundred messages in her Inbox (she also didn't Sort or use Find) looking for the message she had received that morning. She was overwhelmed when I showed her how to filter into separate folders and use the Find option after several years of her previous disorganized methods. I currently have 67 folders and 81 filters and can't use any email program for more than a few minutes without setting up at least a couple dozen folders and filters. I rarely use my Yahoo account and have only half a dozen folders because I always forward to my main email account to save into PowerMail. From there, I use AppleScripts to save to FileMaker Pro. I also save another copy of really important messages to a plain text file. Without numerous filters and folders for incoming and outgoing messages, I think email would be confusing and frustrating. -- For each age is a dream that is dying, Or one that is coming to birth. -Arthur William Edgar O'Shaughnessy * 867 PowerBook G4 * OS X 10.2.8 * 768 MB Ram *
Re: PowerMail Wish - In/Out trays
On Sat, Apr 10, 2004, the following words from Christian Roth [EMAIL PROTECTED], emerged from a plethora of SPAM ... >PM has spring-loaded folders, so you can just grab the message and move >it to the place where you want it by dragging and delaying over the >desired (sub-) folders. > >>and drag the Sent message into it. Then repeat this for every >>message sent. > >If there are some properties to each message that determine where they >should go after being sent, it might be possible to set up some outgoing >message filters to automatically move the message there after being sent. >Of course, this won't work if you cannot specify such a set of filing >rules, but need to file each message "by hand"... I'm a filter fiend - mostly due to the fact that I find trying to drag and drop while a list is scrolling very distasteful. I usually manage to overscroll, then scroll beyond the target again when going backward. So I have filters that auto-file most messages that go to the same people/ mailing lists. For the occasional message that can't be dealt with using a filter, I rely on AppleScripts that are triggered by Quickeys buttons. Even in the Finder, I try to avoid drag and drop to destinations that aren't in view by using a contextual menu utility called Quick Access to move, copy, create aliases and open folders. But, I'd be happy if there were a "File In ..." contextual menu. I also really liked how Mail had the option to file a message in the last recently used folder (Does it still have that feature?). It would also be nice to have a PM contextual menu of Services and recently used AppleScripts. -- Sometimes even to live is an act of courage. - Lucius Annaeus Seneca, writer and philosopher * 867 PowerBook G4 * OS X 10.2.8 * 768 MB Ram *
Re: PowerMail Wish - In/Out trays
Hello, >Hello Tim and Janet > >>>Have a "File in after sending" popup menu in the outgoing message window >>>similar to that in the incoming message window. >>> >>>Right now, to file his sent messages, the user has to open the Out Tray, >>>scroll to the desired folder, open it to show the sub-folder (if >>>necessary) and drag the Sent message into it. Then repeat this for every >>>message sent. I don't use the incoming message windows (just 3-pane - long list view) so never noticed that menu. I find filters perfectly useable, but I can see where a menu option might be useful as well... > >Just for fun I counted my current folders. > >Right now I have 85 folder, 108 sub-folders and 74 sub-sub-folders. That >makes a total of 267 today. There will be more in the future and they are >constantly changing. > >If I understood you correctly, I am not about to load up PM with 267 >filters and give myself the job of keeping them all up to date. I would >like PM to do the job for me in the same way it does my incoming mail. > >-- Frank Mitchell, Scottsdale, Arizona Wow! I'm not sure how I'd keep track of that many without filters. The thing is, though, that you can have multiple filters act on messages (you uncheck the 'stop applying actions... box) - so an initial sort based on account used could be followed by a filter for subject, followed by a filter for recipient, etc. I have several set up to sort e-mail from my work and home accounts and then subsort if there's a certain topic or sender. Just my 2 cents worth... Janet
Re: PowerMail Wish - In/Out trays
Hello Tim and Janet >>Have a "File in after sending" popup menu in the outgoing message window >>similar to that in the incoming message window. >> >>Right now, to file his sent messages, the user has to open the Out Tray, >>scroll to the desired folder, open it to show the sub-folder (if >>necessary) and drag the Sent message into it. Then repeat this for every >>message sent. >> > >Not so. > >There are two options for automation available: > >1) Use the "General" Preferences to set a default folder for sent mail. That's fine if you want all your sent mail lumped together in one folder. I have both incoming and outgoing mails together inside folders labeled either with the 'other person's name' or the subject. >2) Use filters to move sent mail to an appropriate folder. > > >Now it is true that one-off choices are manual but I've found that those >happen rarely, if ever. Essentially all my outgoing mail is >automatically moved to the appropriate folder and I can't recall a time >when I couldn't classify my outgoing mail with a permanent filter. > >In case anybody thinks I've got a dead simple setup, I should tell you >that I successfully use PowerMail to manage 28 folders, including 1 >subfolder plus 4 or 5 accounts each with their own set of filters. >Included in that is the administration of 2 mailing lists. > >While the above might be less than some, I would argue that it is more >than most and nicely demonstrates the power of the application. Just for fun I counted my current folders. Right now I have 85 folder, 108 sub-folders and 74 sub-sub-folders. That makes a total of 267 today. There will be more in the future and they are constantly changing. If I understood you correctly, I am not about to load up PM with 267 filters and give myself the job of keeping them all up to date. I would like PM to do the job for me in the same way it does my incoming mail. -- Frank Mitchell, Scottsdale, Arizona
Re: PowerMail Wish - In/Out trays
Hello Christian >>Right now, to file his sent messages, the user has to open the Out Tray, >>scroll to the desired folder, open it to show the sub-folder (if >>necessary) > >PM has spring-loaded folders, so you can just grab the message and move >it to the place where you want it by dragging and delaying over the >desired (sub-) folders. > >>and drag the Sent message into it. Then repeat this for every >>message sent. Just tried this and nothing happens. Is there something I'm missing - I'm using PM 4.2.1 with Mac OS X 10.2.8? If I am, why do we have a 'File in' popup for incoming messages? >If there are some properties to each message that determine where they >should go after being sent, it might be possible to set up some outgoing >message filters to automatically move the message there after being sent. >Of course, this won't work if you cannot specify such a set of filing >rules, but need to file each message "by hand"... See my comment on filters in my other message replying to Tim and Janet. >You might want to create several PM accounts (even if they are going to >the same POP account) and send the message via that specific account. >Then use that info for filing automatically using a filter. So, what >you're essentially doing is binding an account to a filing folder. (I >hope I was able to make my idea clear enough...? :-)) 267 separate accounts? -- Frank Mitchell, Scottsdale, Arizona
Re: PowerMail Wish - In/Out trays
On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 2:37 PM, Frank Mitchell sent forth: >Have a "File in after sending" popup menu in the outgoing message window >similar to that in the incoming message window. > >Right now, to file his sent messages, the user has to open the Out Tray, >scroll to the desired folder, open it to show the sub-folder (if >necessary) and drag the Sent message into it. Then repeat this for every >message sent. > >-- Frank Mitchell, Scottsdale, Arizona > > > Not so. There are two options for automation available: 1) Use the "General" Preferences to set a default folder for sent mail. 2) Use filters to move sent mail to an appropriate folder. Now it is true that one-off choices are manual but I've found that those happen rarely, if ever. Essentially all my outgoing mail is automatically moved to the appropriate folder and I can't recall a time when I couldn't classify my outgoing mail with a permanent filter. In case anybody thinks I've got a dead simple setup, I should tell you that I successfully use PowerMail to manage 28 folders, including 1 subfolder plus 4 or 5 accounts each with their own set of filters. Included in that is the administration of 2 mailing lists. While the above might be less than some, I would argue that it is more than most and nicely demonstrates the power of the application. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PowerMail Wish - In/Out trays
Um, You can do that right now by having a mail filter on your outgoing mail (at least you can in OS 9, I haven't gone to OSX yet). Go to Setup>Mail Filters and click on the little cog to set up a new filter. Give it a name. Under Conditions, choose 'status' from the left pull-down menu, then 'is' from the middle menu, then 'sent' from the right menu Under actions, choose 'move message into folder' and choose the folder. Then click 'stop applying actions to this message' I've had this set up since I started using PowerMail - I've actually got 2 sent mail folders because I have mail accounts on a couple of different domains and I want to keep the sent mail separated. Hope this helps. Janet, PowerMail 4.2.1 on OS 9.2.2 >Have a "File in after sending" popup menu in the outgoing message window >similar to that in the incoming message window. > >Right now, to file his sent messages, the user has to open the Out Tray, >scroll to the desired folder, open it to show the sub-folder (if >necessary) and drag the Sent message into it. Then repeat this for every >message sent. > >-- Frank Mitchell, Scottsdale, Arizona > > >
Re: PowerMail Wish - In/Out trays
Frank Mitchell wrote: >Right now, to file his sent messages, the user has to open the Out Tray, >scroll to the desired folder, open it to show the sub-folder (if >necessary) PM has spring-loaded folders, so you can just grab the message and move it to the place where you want it by dragging and delaying over the desired (sub-) folders. >and drag the Sent message into it. Then repeat this for every >message sent. If there are some properties to each message that determine where they should go after being sent, it might be possible to set up some outgoing message filters to automatically move the message there after being sent. Of course, this won't work if you cannot specify such a set of filing rules, but need to file each message "by hand"... You might want to create several PM accounts (even if they are going to the same POP account) and send the message via that specific account. Then use that info for filing automatically using a filter. So, what you're essentially doing is binding an account to a filing folder. (I hope I was able to make my idea clear enough...? :-)) Regards, Christian.
Re: PowerMail Wish - In/Out trays
At Fri, 9 Apr 2004 14:37:10 -0700 (CET), Frank Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Have a "File in after sending" popup menu in the outgoing message window >similar to that in the incoming message window. Man, have I asked for this one as well a few times before... /Max G
PowerMail Wish - In/Out trays
Have a "File in after sending" popup menu in the outgoing message window similar to that in the incoming message window. Right now, to file his sent messages, the user has to open the Out Tray, scroll to the desired folder, open it to show the sub-folder (if necessary) and drag the Sent message into it. Then repeat this for every message sent. -- Frank Mitchell, Scottsdale, Arizona
