date:20070110

On Wednesday 10 January 2007 23:18, Kristyne McDaniel wrote:

> I do hear what you are saying about how the drugs are carefully created. My
> point is that I don't think they are necessarily carefully prescribed.

Hi Kristyne!

Oh, are you so right about that. The MD guys are so stressed themselves that 
they either give the patient the advertisers's med of the week or whatever 
the last salesman gave them samples of.
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Re: [NF] Apple Computer, Inc., is dead!

Michael Oke, II wrote:
> More interesting as to whether or not they'll be able to keep calling it 
> the iphone.
>   

I give upwhy wouldn't they be allowed to continue calling it?

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RE: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?

2007-01-10 Thread Kristyne McDaniel

Ed,

>   I believe that is exactly what I said. My point was 
> also concerned  
> somewhat with the lexical mis-use of 'guessing' to imply that the  
> choice of medication involves nothing more than a carnival game of  
> chance.

Let's put this another way. I think that researchers devising new
medications are targeting specific areas in the human body and are testing
for specific responses with animal subjects. Where I think the guessing
happens is at the point where the doctor looks at the patient and tries to
figure out whether the medication will work for a particular human being.

Back when I was originally treated for mental stress and depression (91/92),
a psychiatrist that used a combination of talk and medical therapy treated
me successfully with a medication that I later found out was used for people
with a panic disorder and not so much for depression. The next doctor kept
trying to stick me on medications that raised serotonin levels and
essentially messed me up and made me feel worse instead of better. These
days I do not take antidepressants at all. I have a prescription for Xanax
that I previously used very infrequently when I felt overly stressed. About
6 months ago, my physician had me try Lexapro. That's been keeping me at a
more even keel. That's a medication for a panic disorder, though.

I was at one time depressed, but antidepressants made me worse, not better.

Prozac and Wellbutrin are not one size fits all medications. Drugs like that
make people like me climb the walls. My brain is not wired to react the same
way that someone else's brain works when they take that stuff. I was on that
stuff for just a short time, and I'm telling you it was NOT pretty.

I do hear what you are saying about how the drugs are carefully created. My
point is that I don't think they are necessarily carefully prescribed.

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Re: Attach MySQL files (not from a backup file)

2007-01-10 Thread Kevin Cully

I put it in a directory on my Windows server and MySQL Control Center 
"sees" the databases.  I can even see the fields, their types, and lengths.

When I query for the data however, I'm getting errors and hitting a dead 
end.  I'll get the exact error messages tomorrow.  I know one of them is 
error 130.

I was googling for the answer but I came up empty.  I didn't expect them 
to send me another copy of the files.  I was hoping for a true backup.

Kevin Cully
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Ted Roche wrote:
> On 1/10/07, Kevin Cully <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>I've got a new client that keeps sending me a copy of their MySQL
>>directory from their server instead of a proper backup of the MySQL
>>database.
> 
> 
> If they shut down the server and are only using MyISAM engine, that
> might be a legitimate backup. But mysqldump or hotcopy is preferred...
> 

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Introduction and problems with old old code

2007-01-10 Thread David Cake

Hi, new to the list. Just to introduce myself, I used to be 
heavily involved in FoxPro long ago, in the 2.6/3 era (and earlier, 
in the FoxBASE+ era), coded in it heavily, in user groups etc. I have 
an old app from that era that I still support, when they call me up 
every couple of years. I don't really do much other Fox work, and I 
don't think I'm likely to.
The problem is I've just been called in to deal with some 
problems with this app - odd behaviour it never used to display. The 
app was written originally for FoxBase+, then ported roughly to VFP 3 
on Mac, then about 3 years ago I ported it to VFP 7 on Windows. Now, 
VFP 7 won't open the old project files anymore, we have VFP 9 but 
that doesn't appear to understand old .scx files.
Any advice on bringing an old product like this into the 
modern era with minimal pain?
Regards
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Re: [NF] Genaology data for UK ports is now open.

On Wednesday 10 January 2007 07:32, Stephen Russell wrote:
> 
>
> LONDON, England (Reuters) -- People looking to track ancestors who
> emigrated from British ports will from Wednesday be able to search online
> passenger lists of the ships that carried them to new lands.
>
> Released by Britain's National Archives, the passenger manifests give an
> insight into all long-distance trips made by 30 million travelers from the
> country's ports between 1890

Hi Stephen!

Any word on data from 1832? That's when Michael Theisen brought the family 
over. Would be cool to know what ship they came on, and from what port.
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Re: [NF] Another app broken by IE7

For those not in the know,

http://www.jr.co.il/humor/noah4.txt

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RE: [NF] Another app broken by IE7

2007-01-10 Thread Ken Dibble

At 12:28 PM 1/10/07, you wrote:
>In Islamic societies, where digitectomies are often performed, the
>traditional definition of "cubit" is highly susceptible to variations.
>
>Fermat's Theorem takes a different approach to "cubit" but it is yet to
>be proven.
>
>The histories suggest that the cubit is an ancient Egyptian measurement
>adopted for measuring the length of pythons because of the ubiquity of
>elbows and manual digits and the close approximation to the bending
>radius of mature pythons.  Since pi had not yet been discovered, the
>cubit was widely used.
>
>Incidentally, if you have a square that is one foot in length on each
>side, the length of that diagonal of that square is exactly one cubit as
>defined by the flooring installers convention of 1954.  This can be
>proven using the Pythagorean theorem of right triangles.
>12x12+12x12=17x17 (give or take).
>
>There is no need to thank me for this exposition.

Or reason to.

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Re: [OT] PETA

On Wednesday 10 January 2007 20:43, Ed Leafe wrote:
> http://images.ucomics.com/comics/bl/2007/bl070110.gif

Hi Ed!

Now that is funny! Good one.
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Re: [NF] Another app broken by IE7

2007-01-10 Thread Ken Dibble

>
>On Jan 10, 2007, at 8:44 AM, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote:
>
> > Au contraire.
> >
> > And _I_ can tread water for a loong time. 
>
>"Riiight!? Who is this really?"

Same guy who left the bread crumbs in the water bottle.

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Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?

On Wednesday 10 January 2007 19:47, Leland Jackson wrote:

> >=> Like Charlie and you have said, it is guesswork. I had drops
> >=> in my eyes a couple of hours ago. What I am typing is
> >=> guesswork. I have this magnifying glass here but it isn't
> >=> that good on the screen.

> >The drops are working well, Pete.  Not a single typo, even with the $8
> > Leland spell checker .  What did they give you?  Oxygenated Hydrogen
> > USP?

Hi Hal!

I don't know what it was - the dilating stuff for the eye exam. Way overdue I 
was. I bootlegged a copy of the deluxe $9 version and had a friend dummy up 
the registration code. Don't anyone tell Leland or he will want his $9.
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Re: [OT] Oliver North Hates America, Too

On Wednesday 10 January 2007 19:28, Ed Leafe wrote:

> wanted more U. S. boots on the ground. In fact, nearly all expressed
> just the opposite: ‘We don’t need more American troops, we need more
> Iraqi troops.’”

Hi Ed!

But the North article goes on:

"While putting 200,000 American or NATO troops on the Iranian and Syrian 
borders to stop infiltration might make sense . . ."

So let's send ten divisions, not for combat, but for security.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=18797
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[OT] PETA

http://images.ucomics.com/comics/bl/2007/bl070110.gif


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Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?

2007-01-10 Thread Leland Jackson

As the Bush Administration has repeatedly reminded said  ""Do you know 
what losing in Iraq would mean?  It would mean disgrace to my 
Presidency, investigation into how the war started, audits as to what 
happened to all the billions that we sank into dry holes in our attempt 
to capture all that oil.  It could mean personal bankruptcy for me, 
shame, prison.  No, I will not lose in Iraq, period." 

Regards,

LelandJ

Michael Madigan wrote:

>Let's surrender, instead.
>
>
>
>--- Leland Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hey, give me a break.  I'm just hanging out here for
>>an hour or so 
>>waiting for the "Decider" to address the nation on
>>the path forward in hell.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>LelandJ
>>
>>Hal Kaplan wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>=> Subject: Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides
>>>  
>>>
>>Kristyne is 
>>
>>
>>>=> responsible for?
>>>=> 
>>>=> On Wednesday 10 January 2007 12:58, Hal Kaplan
>>>  
>>>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>=> 
>>>=> 
>>>=> Hi Hal!
>>>=> 
>>>=> Like Charlie and you have said, it is guesswork.
>>>  
>>>
>>I had drops 
>>
>>
>>>=> in my eyes a couple of hours ago. What I am
>>>  
>>>
>>typing is 
>>
>>
>>>=> guesswork. I have this magnifying glass here but
>>>  
>>>
>>it isn't 
>>
>>
>>>=> that good on the screen.
>>>=> -- 
>>>=> 
>>>=> Regards,
>>>=> 
>>>=> Pete
>>>
>>>The drops are working well, Pete.  Not a single
>>>  
>>>
>>typo, even with the $8 Leland spell checker . 
>>What did they give you?  Oxygenated Hydrogen USP?
>>
>>
>>>B+
>>>HALinNY
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
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Re: [NF] Another app broken by IE7

2007-01-10 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh

On Jan 10, 2007, at 8:44 AM, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote:

> Au contraire.
>
> And _I_ can tread water for a loong time. 

"Riiight!? Who is this really?"

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Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?

Let's surrender, instead.

--- Leland Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hey, give me a break.  I'm just hanging out here for
> an hour or so 
> waiting for the "Decider" to address the nation on
> the path forward in hell.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> LelandJ
> 
> Hal Kaplan wrote:
> 
> >=> Subject: Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides
> Kristyne is 
> >=> responsible for?
> >=> 
> >=> On Wednesday 10 January 2007 12:58, Hal Kaplan
> wrote:
> >=> 
> >=> 
> >=> Hi Hal!
> >=> 
> >=> Like Charlie and you have said, it is guesswork.
> I had drops 
> >=> in my eyes a couple of hours ago. What I am
> typing is 
> >=> guesswork. I have this magnifying glass here but
> it isn't 
> >=> that good on the screen.
> >=> -- 
> >=> 
> >=> Regards,
> >=> 
> >=> Pete
> >
> >The drops are working well, Pete.  Not a single
> typo, even with the $8 Leland spell checker . 
> What did they give you?  Oxygenated Hydrogen USP?
> >
> >B+
> >HALinNY
> >
> >
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Re: [OT] Oliver North Hates America, Too

Oh, you're comparing him to the leftist-scum just
because they agree on one point.  


--- Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Add Ollie to the ranks of America-haters. Which, if
> you have any  
> sense at all, is defined as anyone who dares to
> question anything  
> Bush does.
> 
> http://www.nwanews.com/adg/Editorial/178357/
> 
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - - - - - - -
> Writing in Human Events, right-wing icon Oliver
> North argues,  
> Sending more U. S. combat troops [to Iraq ] is
> simply sending more  
> targets. Recently back from Baghdad, North says
> contrary to Sens.  
> John McCain and Holy Joe Lieberman, [n]ot one of
> the soldiers,  
> sailors, airmen, Guardsmen or Marines I interviewed
> told me that they  
> wanted more U. S. boots on the ground. In fact,
> nearly all expressed  
> just the opposite: We dont need more American
> troops, we need more  
> Iraqi troops.
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - - - - - - -
> 
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Re: [NF] Another app broken by IE7

2007-01-10 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh

On Jan 10, 2007, at 8:33 AM, Ted Roche wrote:

> And these people don't know where it's from? Barbarians!
>
> "Well, I can't tell you. Ha, ha, ha."

I was just about to say "I bet Whil does" then I read the next message. 

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Re: [OT] Forget the SAT exam.

Did your gay lover Helio tell you that one?

--- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jean Laeremans wrote:
> > On 1/10/07, Michael Madigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >> I guess using a fork is out of the question.  I
> wonder
> >> if they are forced to commit hari kari if they
> fail.
> > 
> > http://www.jref.com/glossary/harakiri.shtml
> > 
> > A+
> > jml
> > 
> 
> It is actually Seppuku
> 
> > 
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Re: [NF] Apple Computer, Inc., is dead!

2007-01-10 Thread Michael Oke, II

More interesting as to whether or not they'll be able to keep calling it 
the iphone.

--
::michael
--

Ed Leafe wrote:
> On Jan 9, 2007, at 2:04 PM, Justin Darnell wrote:
>
>> Should be interesting to see how Cingular exclusivity hinders adoption
>> of that nifty looking iPhone.
>
>   Well, he said they're only shooting for a 1% market penetration by  
> 2008, so I don't think it will be too much of a problem.
>
>   What's more interesting is how many people switch to Cingular/AT&T  
> just to get the iPhone!
>
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>
>
>
>
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Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?

2007-01-10 Thread Leland Jackson

Hey, give me a break.  I'm just hanging out here for an hour or so 
waiting for the "Decider" to address the nation on the path forward in hell.

Regards,

LelandJ

Hal Kaplan wrote:

>=> Subject: Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is 
>=> responsible for?
>=> 
>=> On Wednesday 10 January 2007 12:58, Hal Kaplan wrote:
>=> 
>=> 
>=> Hi Hal!
>=> 
>=> Like Charlie and you have said, it is guesswork. I had drops 
>=> in my eyes a couple of hours ago. What I am typing is 
>=> guesswork. I have this magnifying glass here but it isn't 
>=> that good on the screen.
>=> -- 
>=> 
>=> Regards,
>=> 
>=> Pete
>
>The drops are working well, Pete.  Not a single typo, even with the $8 Leland 
>spell checker .  What did they give you?  Oxygenated Hydrogen USP?
>
>B+
>HALinNY
>
>
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[OT] Oliver North Hates America, Too

Add Ollie to the ranks of America-haters. Which, if you have any  
sense at all, is defined as anyone who dares to question anything  
Bush does.

http://www.nwanews.com/adg/Editorial/178357/

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Writing in Human Events, right-wing icon Oliver North argues,  
“Sending more U. S. combat troops [to Iraq ] is simply sending more  
targets.” Recently back from Baghdad, North says contrary to Sens.  
John McCain and Holy Joe Lieberman, “[n]ot one of the soldiers,  
sailors, airmen, Guardsmen or Marines I interviewed told me that they  
wanted more U. S. boots on the ground. In fact, nearly all expressed  
just the opposite: ‘We don’t need more American troops, we need more  
Iraqi troops.’”
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AOL Security center makes VFP.EXE NOT a VFP .EXE with Konxise

2007-01-10 Thread Fletcher Johnson

Hi all,
 
I ran into a fun experience today.  It seems that People who have the AOL
security center installed are getting error messages along the line of "This is
not a valid Visual FoxPro Executable" when they try to run any VFP application
on their computer - provided that application has been pre-compiled with Konxise
(by Xitech).
 
They already had to fix one bug that kept Norton from running.  
 
In any case, I thought I would post this in case someone else ran into the same
thing and couldn't figure out why a program that had been running just fine
suddenly won't when nothing on the computer changed (other than getting the
latest security patch from AOL of course.)
 
If I get an answer to the problem, I will post it, should anyone be interested.
 
Take care,
 
Fletcher
 


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Re: [OT] Forget the SAT exam.

2007-01-10 Thread Ricardo Aráoz

Jean Laeremans wrote:
> On 1/10/07, Michael Madigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I guess using a fork is out of the question.  I wonder
>> if they are forced to commit hari kari if they fail.
> 
> http://www.jref.com/glossary/harakiri.shtml
> 
> A+
> jml
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It is actually Seppuku

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Re: [OT] Dear Mr and Mrs Smith

2007-01-10 Thread Ricardo Aráoz

Pete Theisen wrote:
> On Wednesday 10 January 2007 05:42, Bill Arnold wrote:
>> Dear Mr and Mrs Smith,
>>
>> I'm writing to tell you in advance that if your son 
> 
> Hi Bill!
> 
> Well, this crosses the line. Not original however. Tokyo Rose had the same 
> idea.
> 

Wow Bill! You crossed the line!!! B!

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Re: Attach MySQL files (not from a backup file)

On 1/10/07, Kevin Cully <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've got a new client that keeps sending me a copy of their MySQL
> directory from their server instead of a proper backup of the MySQL
> database.

If they shut down the server and are only using MyISAM engine, that
might be a legitimate backup. But mysqldump or hotcopy is preferred...

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Re: Attach MySQL files (not from a backup file)

2007-01-10 Thread Helio W.

MySQL puts each database under the intallation's data directory, these are
the (myisam tables) data, index and structure files. If you put these files
under a directory with the same name as the database's, your MySql
installation should recognize them... Is it what you asked?

On 1/10/07, Kevin Cully <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I've got a new client that keeps sending me a copy of their MySQL
> directory from their server instead of a proper backup of the MySQL
> database.
>
> Are these files of any use to me?  Is there a way to force my MySQL
> installation to recognize these files as belonging to their installation?
>
> The directory is filled with *.MYD, *.MYI, *.frm files plus a db.opt file.
>
> I'm speaking to their network administrator and he doesn't know anything
> about MySQL and he wasn't at a machine to walk him through backing up
> his db.  Frustrating.  I guess they're not backing up their database at
> all, eh?
>
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Re: Attach MySQL files (not from a backup file)

On Jan 10, 2007, at 5:03 PM, Kevin Cully wrote:

> I've got a new client that keeps sending me a copy of their MySQL
> directory from their server instead of a proper backup of the MySQL
> database.
>
> Are these files of any use to me?  Is there a way to force my MySQL
> installation to recognize these files as belonging to their  
> installation?
>
> The directory is filled with *.MYD, *.MYI, *.frm files plus a  
> db.opt file.

Those are MyISAM database files. Just put them in the data directory  
of your MySQL installation, and set their permissions to match the  
other data files. It should "just work".

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Re: [NF] Another app broken by IE7

2007-01-10 Thread Jerry Wolper

> For your eyes pleasure:

Gracias.

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Attach MySQL files (not from a backup file)

2007-01-10 Thread Kevin Cully

I've got a new client that keeps sending me a copy of their MySQL 
directory from their server instead of a proper backup of the MySQL 
database.

Are these files of any use to me?  Is there a way to force my MySQL 
installation to recognize these files as belonging to their installation?

The directory is filled with *.MYD, *.MYI, *.frm files plus a db.opt file.

I'm speaking to their network administrator and he doesn't know anything 
about MySQL and he wasn't at a machine to walk him through backing up 
his db.  Frustrating.  I guess they're not backing up their database at 
all, eh?

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RE: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?

=> Subject: Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is 
=> responsible for?
=> 
=> On Wednesday 10 January 2007 12:58, Hal Kaplan wrote:
=> 
=> 
=> Hi Hal!
=> 
=> Like Charlie and you have said, it is guesswork. I had drops 
=> in my eyes a couple of hours ago. What I am typing is 
=> guesswork. I have this magnifying glass here but it isn't 
=> that good on the screen.
=> -- 
=> 
=> Regards,
=> 
=> Pete

The drops are working well, Pete.  Not a single typo, even with the $8 Leland 
spell checker .  What did they give you?  Oxygenated Hydrogen USP?

B+
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Re: [NF] MySQL use of VarChar

Helio W. wrote:
> I think MySql handles variable-lenght tables slower so someone could
> inadvertently modify a char column size and affect the performance of the
> application without need.
>   

Ah yes--performance considerations--I was thinking on the function of 
the app.

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Re: [NF] MySQL use of VarChar

On Jan 10, 2007, at 2:44 PM, MB Software Solutions wrote:

> I've heard Ed or Ted mention this before, too.  Not sure how this  
> might
> adversely affect someone, though?

This has been the case in MySQL since I started using it.

The main effect is that if it won't impact storage too much, use all  
fixed-width columns. For obvious reasons, fixed-length records make  
for faster searches, so don't use variable-length columns unless a)  
the storage benefits are worth it or b) getting every nanosecond of  
search speed isn't mission-critical.

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Re: [NF] MySQL use of VarChar

2007-01-10 Thread Helio W.

I think MySql handles variable-lenght tables slower so someone could
inadvertently modify a char column size and affect the performance of the
application without need.

On 1/10/07, MB Software Solutions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> I've heard Ed or Ted mention this before, too.  Not sure how this might
> adversely affect someone, though?
>
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Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-10 Thread Mark Stanton

> petty # pretty...unfortunately...

It does too often for my liking...

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Re: [NF] MySQL use of VarChar

Tracy Pearson wrote:
> I've just been told the 6.5.3.1 Silent Column Specification Changes has a
> bit in it those that use MySQL should be aware of:
>
> If any column in a table has a variable length, the entire row is
> variable-length as a result. Therefore, if a table contains any
> variable-length columns (VARCHAR, TEXT, or BLOB), all CHAR columns longer
> than three characters are changed to VARCHAR columns.
>
>
> I know, I should confirm this before posting, but I'm not a MySQL user, and
> have a deadline to meet, but thought I'd pass it along.
>
>   

I've heard Ed or Ted mention this before, too.  Not sure how this might 
adversely affect someone, though?

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[NF] MySQL use of VarChar

2007-01-10 Thread Tracy Pearson

I've just been told the 6.5.3.1 Silent Column Specification Changes has a
bit in it those that use MySQL should be aware of:

If any column in a table has a variable length, the entire row is
variable-length as a result. Therefore, if a table contains any
variable-length columns (VARCHAR, TEXT, or BLOB), all CHAR columns longer
than three characters are changed to VARCHAR columns.


I know, I should confirm this before posting, but I'm not a MySQL user, and
have a deadline to meet, but thought I'd pass it along.

Tracy




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Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?

On Wednesday 10 January 2007 12:58, Hal Kaplan wrote:

> P.S.  I also grew my own arterial bypass and my cardiologist said that it
> happens in about 15% of patients who experience reduced clearance.  It's a
> long story but I do not understand how that 15% is determined when most
> people who do it will not be examined for it.

Hi Hal!

Like Charlie and you have said, it is guesswork. I had drops in my eyes a 
couple of hours ago. What I am typing is guesswork. I have this magnifying 
glass here but it isn't that good on the screen.
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Re: Ah - the new and improved MS home page

William Sanders / EFG wrote:
> MB wrote:
> ==>Why not forward this to Miland (the guy who replaced Ken Levy)? Perhaps
> he can take care of that?
>
> Ok done.  Let's see where this goes. Hoping for not a 'splat' against the
> windshield.
>
> Regards [Bill]
>   

Stay on him, Bill!  

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Re: [NF] Another app broken by IE7

2007-01-10 Thread vbiersch

not having dsl anymore I'm really noticing it

thought it was because I'm using the treo a lot but apparently that is not it
-Original Message-

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John Weller wrote:
> My email is playing up - I didn't get the initial reference.  I'm getting
> some emails way out of time so I see replies anything up to two days before
> the initial post!
>
>   

Ditto here!

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RE: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?

2007-01-10 Thread David Crooks

On Wednesday, January 10, 2007 1:34 PM Ed Leafe wrote:

>   I believe that is exactly what I said. My point was also
concerned somewhat with the 
>lexical mis-use of 'guessing' to imply that the choice of medication
involves nothing more than >a carnival game of chance.

That is why they call it practicing medicine.  My favorite saying is
that every body is different.  One pill could never cure everyone.  Each
person has a different chemistry and what works for me might not work
for you. It is a shame that the drug companies have such a hold on this
country.  There are many alternative medicine ways that can help but
people just go to the doc and is quick to hand out the prescription.  I
do remember that a victim of the Columbine High School shootings has
filed a lawsuit against the maker of an antidepressant. Can be pretty
dangerous stuff!

David L. Crooks

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Re: Ah - the new and improved MS home page

2007-01-10 Thread William Sanders / EFG

MB wrote:
==>Why not forward this to Miland (the guy who replaced Ken Levy)? Perhaps
he can take care of that?

Ok done.  Let's see where this goes. Hoping for not a 'splat' against the
windshield.

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Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?

On Jan 10, 2007, at 12:58 PM, Hal Kaplan wrote:

> As a major consumer of these drugs, I can assure you that it is  
> more guessing than not.  Yes, the guesses can be highly educated  
> but the efficacy of a particular drug can vary considerably from  
> patient to patient regardless of the number of common indications  
> to prescribe the drug that any two patients may have.

I believe that is exactly what I said. My point was also concerned  
somewhat with the lexical mis-use of 'guessing' to imply that the  
choice of medication involves nothing more than a carnival game of  
chance.

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Re: Ah - the new and improved MS home page

William Sanders / EFG wrote:
> Yikes - Meester G is on the home page again, with a big blurb about living
> large at the CES.  I swore I would make it to the CES this year, I've been
> avoiding it for the last 25 years now and always swore I would go.
>
> Anyway -
>
> There's a list on the far right for all MicroSoft Sites -
> Click the 'Products and Related Technologies' link -
> [which drops me (YMMV) to
> http://www.microsoft.com/shared/core/1/webservice/navigation.asmx/DisplayDownlevelNavHtml?navPath=/global/SiteTemplates/f40749b9-f268-4f37-a980-adc3dc3ac38a.xml&groupName=Products%20%26%20Related%20Technologies
>   ]
>
> Then look at 'Developer Tools' .  There VFP is not, suffering from yet
> another new crop of marketing folk not putting in VFP under any major
> listing.
>
> Sheesh.  Not to complain, ah? It's another *yawn* lack of web-space on the
> MS site for Visual FoxPro.
>
> Regards [Bill]
>   
Why not forward this to Miland (the guy who replaced Ken Levy)?  Perhaps 
he can take care of that?

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Ah - the new and improved MS home page

2007-01-10 Thread William Sanders / EFG

Yikes - Meester G is on the home page again, with a big blurb about living
large at the CES.  I swore I would make it to the CES this year, I've been
avoiding it for the last 25 years now and always swore I would go.

Anyway -

There's a list on the far right for all MicroSoft Sites -
Click the 'Products and Related Technologies' link -
[which drops me (YMMV) to
http://www.microsoft.com/shared/core/1/webservice/navigation.asmx/DisplayDownlevelNavHtml?navPath=/global/SiteTemplates/f40749b9-f268-4f37-a980-adc3dc3ac38a.xml&groupName=Products%20%26%20Related%20Technologies
  ]

Then look at 'Developer Tools' .  There VFP is not, suffering from yet
another new crop of marketing folk not putting in VFP under any major
listing.

Sheesh.  Not to complain, ah? It's another *yawn* lack of web-space on the
MS site for Visual FoxPro.

Regards [Bill]
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Re: [NF] Another app broken by IE7

John Weller wrote:
> My email is playing up - I didn't get the initial reference.  I'm getting
> some emails way out of time so I see replies anything up to two days before
> the initial post!
>
>   

Ditto here!

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RE: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?

=> Subject: Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is 
=> responsible for?
=> 
=> On Jan 10, 2007, at 11:53 AM, Charlie Coleman wrote:
=> 
=> > Basically, most medical 'science' is 'guessing'. Don't get 
=> me wrong, 
=> > they have a lot of information, data, research, etc, to help them 
=> > guess, but in the end it's pretty much guessing. Surgury is, of 
=> > course, a bit more 'scientific', but most things beyond 
=> that are 'lets 
=> > try this and see what happens.'
=> 
=>  The 'guessing' is the result of those pesky ethical 
=> issues involved in sampling living human brains for analysis.
=> 
=>  The mechanisms have been confirmed in those mammalian 
=> creatures for whom such issues are not as much of a problem. 
=> I did my thesis (degree in Neurological Biochemistry) 
=> studying the enzyme monoamine oxidase (MAO), which is a 
=> major actor in schizophrenic disorders, but they wouldn't 
=> let me work with human patients for some odd reason.  
=> However, more than a few rats gave their all for the research.
=> 
=>  All kidding aside, it isn't as simple as 'guessing'. 
=> There has to be a ton of neurological research to establish 
=> a mechanism, and then testing on non-human subjects to 
=> confirm the guess there. Only then can they actually start 
=> trying it out on humans. But as I mentioned in a previous 
=> post, a single disease such as depression is actually 
=> several distinct conditions. It would be as unreasonable to 
=> expect every one of those conditions to respond the same way 
=> to the same drug, just as you wouldn't expect the same 
=> treatment for one kind of cancer have the same effect on all 
=> other cancers.
=> 
=> -- Ed Leafe


As a major consumer of these drugs, I can assure you that it is more guessing 
than not.  Yes, the guesses can be highly educated but the efficacy of a 
particular drug can vary considerably from patient to patient regardless of the 
number of common indications to prescribe the drug that any two patients may 
have.  None of the SSRI drugs are indicated for more than 6-8 months of 
continuous use and I have experienced cases where one drug works very well 
during one treatment regimen and two years later has a totally opposite effect 
on me.  More recently, one drug was "miraculous" in its effect on me ... for 
about 3 days ... and then stopped working altogether.

The kid who committed suicide because of his disappointment represents an 
unfortunate reality of life, which we seem to forget includes the "survival of 
the fittest" attribute.

B+
HALinNY

P.S.  I also grew my own arterial bypass and my cardiologist said that it 
happens in about 15% of patients who experience reduced clearance.  It's a long 
story but I do not understand how that 15% is determined when most people who 
do it will not be examined for it.


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Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?

On Jan 10, 2007, at 11:53 AM, Charlie Coleman wrote:

> Basically, most medical 'science' is 'guessing'. Don't
> get me wrong, they have a lot of information, data, research, etc,  
> to help
> them guess, but in the end it's pretty much guessing. Surgury is, of
> course, a bit more 'scientific', but most things beyond that are  
> 'lets try
> this and see what happens.'

The 'guessing' is the result of those pesky ethical issues involved  
in sampling living human brains for analysis.

The mechanisms have been confirmed in those mammalian creatures for  
whom such issues are not as much of a problem. I did my thesis  
(degree in Neurological Biochemistry) studying the enzyme monoamine  
oxidase (MAO), which is a major actor in schizophrenic disorders, but  
they wouldn't let me work with human patients for some odd reason.  
However, more than a few rats gave their all for the research.

All kidding aside, it isn't as simple as 'guessing'. There has to be  
a ton of neurological research to establish a mechanism, and then  
testing on non-human subjects to confirm the guess there. Only then  
can they actually start trying it out on humans. But as I mentioned  
in a previous post, a single disease such as depression is actually  
several distinct conditions. It would be as unreasonable to expect  
every one of those conditions to respond the same way to the same  
drug, just as you wouldn't expect the same treatment for one kind of  
cancer have the same effect on all other cancers.

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RE: [NF] Another app broken by IE7

In Islamic societies, where digitectomies are often performed, the
traditional definition of "cubit" is highly susceptible to variations.

Fermat's Theorem takes a different approach to "cubit" but it is yet to
be proven.

The histories suggest that the cubit is an ancient Egyptian measurement
adopted for measuring the length of pythons because of the ubiquity of
elbows and manual digits and the close approximation to the bending
radius of mature pythons.  Since pi had not yet been discovered, the
cubit was widely used.

Incidentally, if you have a square that is one foot in length on each
side, the length of that diagonal of that square is exactly one cubit as
defined by the flooring installers convention of 1954.  This can be
proven using the Pythagorean theorem of right triangles. 
12x12+12x12=17x17 (give or take).

There is no need to thank me for this exposition.

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RE: repetitive SEEKs

I have some worthless ideas for you, Babcock.

I read all the other posts here and frankly do not understand why
everything is so complicated.  I will give you the simplest way to
accomplish this.  Then you can criticize it, reject it, and wind-up
using it a week from now .

Create a table with two fields: one in date format containing the
sequential dates from any day to any other day (also the pk), the other
(named work) in binary integer format where 1 means you work and 0 means
you do not. I am assuming that you know how many days a process will
take.  So when you need to compute a completion date ...

select halsmarvelouscalendartable
set order to indexedbydate
.
.
.
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days-got=0
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Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?

2007-01-10 Thread Charlie Coleman

At 03:50 PM 1/9/2007 -0200, Helio W. wrote:
>I think you're wrong Kristyne, there's much scientific work behind these
>"theories" and plenty and strong evidence. And the brain IS a bio-chemical
>"machine". From what I read, real science already buried most of classic
>psychoanalysis two decades ago.
...

Uh... I'm more inclined to agree with Kristyne. I have a friend who is 
married to a doctor. He manages the practice. What he has observed and 
experienced pretty much are in total agreement with Kristyne's experiences 
and observations. Basically, most medical 'science' is 'guessing'. Don't 
get me wrong, they have a lot of information, data, research, etc, to help 
them guess, but in the end it's pretty much guessing. Surgury is, of 
course, a bit more 'scientific', but most things beyond that are 'lets try 
this and see what happens.'

Generally, there is a pendulum type thing that happens in medicine: first - 
"druggers" are favored, then some new 'discovery' comes along and then 
"talkers" are favored. Then the reverse happens. If you look over the 
history of medicine you'll see what I mean.

Overall I believe the medical industry (not counting drug companies) has 
improved. But it's almost a wonder how we ever got past witch doctors.

:-)

-Charlie

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Re: Can FPD2.6 application run on Windows 2003 server

thanks all.

thanks Malcolm and peter for tamedos and jml for the link. +_+

thanks,
Yap

On 1/11/07, Jean Laeremans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 1/10/07, Seng Hock Yap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Peter,
> >
> > what is tamedos ? must install in all workstation (win98 and winxp) ?
> where
> > can i download it ?
>
> http://www.tamedos.com/downloads/downloads.htm
>
> As usual google's your friend.
>
> A+
> jml
>
>
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RE: [NF] Another app broken by IE7

2007-01-10 Thread John Weller

> Jaime Vasquez wrote:
> > For your eyes pleasure:
> >
> >
> > http://www.thedatafarm.com/blog/content/binary/wsftpnever.png
> >   
> 
> Wanna bet that we've all got some code like that somewhere in our past 
> apps where we use something like this and preface it with a comment 
> saying "This should never happen!";-)
> 
>

Guilty as charged M'Lud

John Weller
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07976 393631 
> 

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RE: [NF] Another app broken by IE7

2007-01-10 Thread John Weller

My email is playing up - I didn't get the initial reference.  I'm getting
some emails way out of time so I see replies anything up to two days before
the initial post!

John Weller
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
> Sent: 10 January 2007 04:26
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [NF] Another app broken by IE7
>
>
>
> On Jan 9, 2007, at 12:38 PM, John Weller wrote:
>
> >> ("What's a 'Cubit'?")
> >>
> >
> > The distance from the end of the fingers to the elbow - generally
> > taken to
> > be 18".
>
> Thanks -- I never knew that -- but, I was just quoting an apparently-
> too-obscure reference.
>

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Re: Can FPD2.6 application run on Windows 2003 server

On 1/10/07, Seng Hock Yap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Peter,
>
> what is tamedos ? must install in all workstation (win98 and winxp) ? where
> can i download it ?

http://www.tamedos.com/downloads/downloads.htm

As usual google's your friend.

A+
jml

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Re: Can FPD2.6 application run on Windows 2003 server

Peter,

what is tamedos ? must install in all workstation (win98 and winxp) ? where
can i download it ?

thanks
Yap
On 1/11/07, Peter Cushing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Seng Hock Yap wrote:
> > Peter,
> >
> > thanks for your reply.
> >
> > how about the stabality of the FPD appliation ?
> >
> >
> No problem.  We are running an FPD application with anything up to about
> 60 users accessing it fine.  We do need to install tamedos on each
> workstation or the processor usage goes up into the 90's.
>
> Peter
>
>
>
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Re: [OT] Forget the SAT exam.

On 1/10/07, Michael Madigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I guess using a fork is out of the question.  I wonder
> if they are forced to commit hari kari if they fail.

http://www.jref.com/glossary/harakiri.shtml

A+
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RE: [NF] New LAN solution

2007-01-10 Thread Sietse Wijnker

Hi Peter,

Forgot to mention it, but i need a T1 router, not ADSL

VPN passthrough means I need to install a separate VPN server, what I don't
want I want to support VPN connections from and to the router.

Sietse

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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Cushing
> Sent: woensdag 10 januari 2007 17:13
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [NF] New LAN solution
> 
> Sietse Wijnker wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm on the point of replacing all LAN networking equipment 
> at my home 
> > due to numerous problems where multiple devices (router, 
> AP) have to 
> > be reset in order to get it working again. Also I've bought 
> some new 
> > computers over the last years that have a Gigabit LAN, but my LAN 
> > equipment doesn't support it (100Mbit and 10Mbit).
> >
> > For that I need a new router with VPN, a WLAN AP (or both in one 
> > device) and a separate 8port or 16 port Gb switch.
> >
> >
> > Does anyone have any tips/experience on make/models to buy 
> or NOT to buy?
> >   
> I got one of these a while ago:
> 
> http://www.pcwb.com/catalogue/item/LKSWL083
> 
> ADSL modem, wireless AP and 4 port switch with a free PCMCIA 
> wireless card.  Great value.  Not tried out any VPN 
> capability but it mentions VPN pass through.
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [OT] Dear Mr and Mrs Smith

Dear Mr and Mrs Arnold,

It seems your boy isn't taking his meds anymore. 
Please ensure that the medicine I've prescribed is
taken in its proper dosage as we want young William to
get better.

Sincerely,

Dr. Freud





--- Bill Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Dear Mr and Mrs Smith,
> 
> I'm writing to tell you in advance that if your son
> winds up in a
> wheelchair because I sent him to fight in our grand
> and glorious battle
> in the ME, that he will not be ignored and forgotten
> as we did with
> those we sent into battle in wars past. No, this
> time we are really,
> actually going to go out of our way to make sure he
> will be honored and
> cared for in many ways.
> 
> First, I want you to know that his name will be
> inscribed on a plague in
> Halliburton's MAIN (not secondary, but MAIN) office
> in Texas. And that's
> just for openers. We're also going to plant trees in
> parks throughout
> Jerusalem, each bearing the name of an American
> solider who paid the
> ultimate price or will live in pain for the rest of
> his life to see to
> it that our one true friend in the whole world,
> Israel, is never forced
> to do anything to accommodate even one stinking
> Arab.
> 
> And, if that's not enough to make your spine tinkle
> with patriotism, I
> want you to know that I'm planning on sending you
> and your family a FREE
> full tank of gas each and every year on the
> anniversary of his crippling
> for FIVE years. That's right: FIVE YEARS!
> 
> I assume you're aware, but I'll say it anyway, that
> we plan to load your
> son down with more then enough weapons to kill every
> living thing in
> sight before they get him. And we'll have
> photographers on the scene
> taking photos of the destruction your son will be a
> part of, and then
> we're going to send you some of those photos so
> you'll have them ready
> to show him whenever he gets depressed because he'll
> never walk again.
> They will be so uplifting because your entire family
> can then share his
> agony. I know it's hard to imagine bonding on that
> level, but I
> personally assure you that this is exactly what it
> takes to be a true
> patriotic American family.
> 
> Signed, 
> 
> Your true friend in the White House
> The Great Decider
> 
> 
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Re: [OT] Forget the SAT exam.

I guess using a fork is out of the question.  I wonder
if they are forced to commit hari kari if they fail.

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Re: [NF] New LAN solution

Sietse Wijnker wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm on the point of replacing all LAN networking equipment at my home due to
> numerous problems where multiple devices (router, AP) have to be reset in
> order to get it working again. Also I've bought some new computers over the
> last years that have a Gigabit LAN, but my LAN equipment doesn't support it
> (100Mbit and 10Mbit).
>
> For that I need a new router with VPN, a WLAN AP (or both in one device) and
> a separate 8port or 16 port Gb switch.
>
>
> Does anyone have any tips/experience on make/models to buy or NOT to buy?
>   
I got one of these a while ago:

http://www.pcwb.com/catalogue/item/LKSWL083

ADSL modem, wireless AP and 4 port switch with a free PCMCIA wireless 
card.  Great value.  Not tried out any VPN capability but it mentions 
VPN pass through.

Peter

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Re: Can FPD2.6 application run on Windows 2003 server

Seng Hock Yap wrote:
> Peter,
>
> thanks for your reply.
>
> how about the stabality of the FPD appliation ?
>
>   
No problem.  We are running an FPD application with anything up to about 
60 users accessing it fine.  We do need to install tamedos on each 
workstation or the processor usage goes up into the 90's.

Peter

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Re: FoxTalk Death Throes Continue...

2007-01-10 Thread Richard Kaye

I got a similar one myself, telling me something like my subscription 
renewal was kicking in and please pay my bill. Since I haven't renewed 
it, I guess they're just looking for more creative ways to extend the 
subscriber base...

Ted Roche wrote:
> Just this morning, I received an email announcing "Your latest FoxTalk
> 2.0 is Available Online!" Curious if they were giving away free online
> content or offering a trial, I navigated to
> http://osslogin.com/login/pin, which asked for a login and displayed
> the Pinnacle (not Eli, not New Hill) logos and no links -- no "Who we
> are," "Read our other publications," nothing. Really suspicious.
> Examining the HTML source, there were no signs of foul play (it does
> look like a phishing expedition, doesn't it?), so I tried the "forgot
> your password" link and supplied my email address (I already get and
> squash 500 spams a day, so one more wouldn't hurt). I promptly got an
> email with my password, and attempted to log in. "Account Expired" it
> told me, again with no other information or links. How annoying! If it
> was expired, why send the email notice? And wouldn't this be a killer
> opportunity to ask me to re-up? Nothing. Bozos.
>
>   

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RE: Strange error message

Rick,
Thanks, I feel relieved, but I still wouldn't have noticed if it had been
earlier!

Dave Crozier

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Dave,

>>After all these years I've never noticed the compilation output in the
debug window before. Nice
find.<<

This is new in VFP 9.


Rick
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RE: [NF] Another app broken by IE7

2007-01-10 Thread Peter Hart

My particular favourite is "Shoot the programmer" which came back to
haunt me some 5 years after a project was completed

Cheers
Peter

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Jaime Vasquez wrote:
> For your eyes pleasure:
>
>
> http://www.thedatafarm.com/blog/content/binary/wsftpnever.png
>   

Wanna bet that we've all got some code like that somewhere in our past 
apps where we use something like this and preface it with a comment 
saying "This should never happen!";-)

-- 
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Re: Can FPD2.6 application run on Windows 2003 server

Peter,

thanks for your reply.

how about the stabality of the FPD appliation ?

Yap


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> Seng Hock Yap wrote:
> > sorry, maybe i didn't write my question properly.
> >
> > the FPD2.6 application will be stored in the dump win2003 server to
> allow
> > WIN98 and WINXP workstation open the FPD2.6 application. no terminal
> > services involved, just simple sharing.
> > will there any problem in printting ?
> >
> Should not be any problems printing as long as you:
>
> net use lpt1: \\myserver\myprintshare
> etc.
>
> then print to the lpt port.
>
>
> Peter
>
>
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RE: Strange error message

2007-01-10 Thread Rick Schummer

Dave,

>>After all these years I've never noticed the compilation output in the debug 
>>window before. Nice
find.<<

This is new in VFP 9.


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Re: [NF] New LAN solution

On 1/10/07, Sietse Wijnker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any tips/experience on make/models to buy or NOT to buy?
>

I've had a lot of luck with Linksys equipment over the years, although
most of my experience is with the models prior to their acquisition by
Cisco. But from what I hear, the merger has only provided Linksys with
more upscale features and models. There's a Wireless-N, router, SPI
firewall and 4-port gigabit switch for around USD $200. However, I'd
be inclined to go with a separate switch from the Router-AP unless you
are dealing with very fast (>5 Mbps) internet connections, just to
separate the chance of failures and lower the costs.

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Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

On 1/10/07, Dave Crozier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Peter,
> You obviously also need:
>
> Set GoForVisionTest ON
>
> Before posting!
>
> Dave Crozier

Or more likely :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freudian_slip

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RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

Peter,
You obviously also need:

Set GoForVisionTest ON

Before posting!

Dave Crozier

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Subject: Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

Jean Laeremans wrote:
> petty # pretty...unfortunately...
>
>   
Oops... should have

SET DYSLEXIA OFF

before sending

Peter

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FoxTalk Death Throes Continue...

On the http://fox.wikis.com";>FoxPro wiki, http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~PinnaclePublishing";>Alex
Feldstein documents the most recent of many problems with New Hill
Services, aka Eli Research, the latest purchasers of the FoxTalk
newsletter, originally from Pinnacle Publishing. (Disclosure: FoxTalk
published several articles of mine, starting in 1992 and ending in
2004). These people are just incredibly clumsy in the way they have
worked with the community which once supported the newsletters.
Terminating the editor, dropping or antagonizing their top-notch
contributing writers, harassing former subscribers and failing to
engage the community have ruined any chances of FoxTalk's recovery. I
wish they would just terminate the paper and spare us all the
embarassment.

Just this morning, I received an email announcing "Your latest FoxTalk
2.0 is Available Online!" Curious if they were giving away free online
content or offering a trial, I navigated to
http://osslogin.com/login/pin, which asked for a login and displayed
the Pinnacle (not Eli, not New Hill) logos and no links -- no "Who we
are," "Read our other publications," nothing. Really suspicious.
Examining the HTML source, there were no signs of foul play (it does
look like a phishing expedition, doesn't it?), so I tried the "forgot
your password" link and supplied my email address (I already get and
squash 500 spams a day, so one more wouldn't hurt). I promptly got an
email with my password, and attempted to log in. "Account Expired" it
told me, again with no other information or links. How annoying! If it
was expired, why send the email notice? And wouldn't this be a killer
opportunity to ask me to re-up? Nothing. Bozos.

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Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-10 Thread Helio W.

Accordingly to what a KPMG consultant told the company I was working for ten
years ago, the PC is dead and right now we all are using some sort of set
top box or thin client.


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Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

Jean Laeremans wrote:
> petty # pretty...unfortunately...
>
>   
Oops... should have

SET DYSLEXIA OFF

before sending

Peter

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RE: [NF] New LAN solution

2007-01-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Checkout http://tinyurl.com/ylec4w. 

Haven't had experience with it so I can't really recommend it. I do use
their software product and it's good. 

PabloSr.

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From: Sietse Wijnker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 14:32:32 +0100
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [NF] New LAN solution


Hi,

I'm on the point of replacing all LAN networking equipment at my home due to
numerous problems where multiple devices (router, AP) have to be reset in
order to get it working again. Also I've bought some new computers over the
last years that have a Gigabit LAN, but my LAN equipment doesn't support it
(100Mbit and 10Mbit).

For that I need a new router with VPN, a WLAN AP (or both in one device) and
a separate 8port or 16 port Gb switch.


Does anyone have any tips/experience on make/models to buy or NOT to buy?

Regards,
Sietse WIjnker




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Re: Can FPD2.6 application run on Windows 2003 server

Seng Hock Yap wrote:
> sorry, maybe i didn't write my question properly.
>
> the FPD2.6 application will be stored in the dump win2003 server to allow
> WIN98 and WINXP workstation open the FPD2.6 application. no terminal
> services involved, just simple sharing.
> will there any problem in printting ?
>   
Should not be any problems printing as long as you:

net use lpt1: \\myserver\myprintshare
etc.

then print to the lpt port.

Peter

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RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-10 Thread Tristan Leask

I dunno! I know some pretty lasses that are a bit petty at times.



Tristan

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petty # pretty...unfortunately...

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Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

On 1/10/07, Peter Cushing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Have you got any pretty users Dave? tell me more ;-)
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petty # pretty...unfortunately...

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Re: Most popular Foxpro framework

2007-01-10 Thread jeff


http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~FrameworkFeatureChart

But with the topic of frameworks:
http://www.hentzenwerke.com/catalog/buildfox.htm
A great book by the best publisher of VFP stuff in the world

On more of a personal note, I use Codemine and one of the regular 
contributors to this list works for another great framework company 
[forgive me, can't remeber who or which one].

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Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

Dave Crozier wrote:
> You must miss the joy (not) of designing pretty user interfaces for petty
> users who don't know their a*ses from their elbows. 
>   
Have you got any pretty users Dave? tell me more ;-)

Peter

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Re: [NF] Another app broken by IE7

2007-01-10 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)

MB Software Solutions wrote:
> Jaime Vasquez wrote:
>> For your eyes pleasure:
>>
>>
>> http://www.thedatafarm.com/blog/content/binary/wsftpnever.png
>>   
> 
> Wanna bet that we've all got some code like that somewhere in our past 
> apps where we use something like this and preface it with a comment 
> saying "This should never happen!";-)

My messagebox in those situations say

   "Something bad happened."

I used to put "Oh shit!" in the title bar of the messagebox, too, until 
a customer called one day to tell me they ran into it

Whil

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Re: [NF] Another app broken by IE7

2007-01-10 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)

Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh wrote:
> On Jan 9, 2007, at 12:38 PM, John Weller wrote:
> 
>>> ("What's a 'Cubit'?")
>>>
>> The distance from the end of the fingers to the elbow - generally  
>> taken to
>> be 18".
> 
> Thanks -- I never knew that -- but, I was just quoting an apparently- 
> too-obscure reference.

Au contraire.

And _I_ can tread water for a loong time. 

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[OT] Forget the SAT exam.

2007-01-10 Thread srussell

TOKYO, Japan (AP) -- Math whizzes and other prodigies need not apply
unless they can demonstrate dexterity with a pair of chopsticks under new
entrance requirements announced by a Japanese girls' school on Wednesday.





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RE: Strange error message

Sietse,
After all these years I've never noticed the compilation output in the debug
window before. Nice find.

My excuse is I never have any errors anyway, so I never need the debugger
open! 

Dave Crozier


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To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: RE: Strange error message

By the way,
To see where the build errors out, there's another option to see what's goin
on next to the 'Display Errors' checkbox:

Open up the Debugger Output window during the build.
This will echo some detailed messages during the process. Another option is
to use SET DEBUGOUT, f.i.

SET DEBUGOUT TO Build.txt
BUILD EXE "myApp.exe" FROM (_VFP.ActiveProject.Name)
SET DEBUGOUT TO
MODIFY FILE  Build.txt

Has helped me numerous times sofar
Regards,
Sietse Wijnker

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christof 
> Wollenhaupt
> Sent: woensdag 10 januari 2007 13:50
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Strange error message
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> You get the locking error, because your project contains a 
> DBC (database) that is opened elsewhere, either on your 
> machine or by an user of your application. VFP tries to 
> recompile all stored procedures. To locate the faulty lines, enter
> 
> OPEN DATABASE c:\pontotoc\pontotoc.dbc
> SET DATABASE TO pontotoc
> MODIFY PROCEDURE
> 
> Probably the line with ENDIF contains some additional 
> characters that have been inserted accidentally.
> 
> 
> --
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> 
> 
> 
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Re: [NF] Another app broken by IE7

On 1/9/07, Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Thanks -- I never knew that -- but, I was just quoting an apparently-
> too-obscure reference.
>

And these people don't know where it's from? Barbarians!

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Most popular Foxpro framework

2007-01-10 Thread Man-wai CHANG


Is there a chart for that?

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[NF] JavaScript tool Cross Platform

2007-01-10 Thread srussell



Anyone looking to the new need for js in your ajax work?


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Re: Can FPD2.6 application run on Windows 2003 server

sorry, maybe i didn't write my question properly.

the FPD2.6 application will be stored in the dump win2003 server to allow
WIN98 and WINXP workstation open the FPD2.6 application. no terminal
services involved, just simple sharing.
will there any problem in printting ?

thanks all
Yap

On 1/10/07, Christof Wollenhaupt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> > Does anyone run FPD2.6 application on Windows 2003 server ?
>
> They don't work with Terminal Services. DOS applications hang multiple
> times
> a day without any solution that I'm aware of.
>
> --
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>
>
>
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[NF] New LAN solution

2007-01-10 Thread Sietse Wijnker

Hi,

I'm on the point of replacing all LAN networking equipment at my home due to
numerous problems where multiple devices (router, AP) have to be reset in
order to get it working again. Also I've bought some new computers over the
last years that have a Gigabit LAN, but my LAN equipment doesn't support it
(100Mbit and 10Mbit).

For that I need a new router with VPN, a WLAN AP (or both in one device) and
a separate 8port or 16 port Gb switch.


Does anyone have any tips/experience on make/models to buy or NOT to buy?

Regards,
Sietse WIjnker



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RE: Strange error message

2007-01-10 Thread Sietse Wijnker

By the way,
To see where the build errors out, there's another option to see what's goin
on next to the 'Display Errors' checkbox:

Open up the Debugger Output window during the build.
This will echo some detailed messages during the process. Another option is
to use SET DEBUGOUT, f.i.

SET DEBUGOUT TO Build.txt
BUILD EXE "myApp.exe" FROM (_VFP.ActiveProject.Name)
SET DEBUGOUT TO
MODIFY FILE  Build.txt

Has helped me numerous times sofar
Regards,
Sietse Wijnker

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christof 
> Wollenhaupt
> Sent: woensdag 10 januari 2007 13:50
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Strange error message
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> You get the locking error, because your project contains a 
> DBC (database) that is opened elsewhere, either on your 
> machine or by an user of your application. VFP tries to 
> recompile all stored procedures. To locate the faulty lines, enter
> 
> OPEN DATABASE c:\pontotoc\pontotoc.dbc
> SET DATABASE TO pontotoc
> MODIFY PROCEDURE
> 
> Probably the line with ENDIF contains some additional 
> characters that have been inserted accidentally.
> 
> 
> --
> Christof
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [NF] Another app broken by IE7

2007-01-10 Thread Richard Kaye

I renamed the DLL referenced in their KB article and it works fine for 
me now. I even put it back so I could get Whil his screenshot. Glad I 
don't have to debug something like this...

Dave Crozier wrote:
> Richard,
>
> My Version which run with XP: 
>
> Ipswitch WS_FTP Professional 2007.0.0.0. - 2006.06.22
>
> And I don't have the problem.
>
> Dave Crozier
>
>   

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RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-10 Thread vbiersch

I got a kick out of this one because I've seen both sides and it allways amazes 
me when developers develop something without understanding the business process 
from end to end
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From:  "Dave Crozier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Adam,
I was thinking of any applications that run ON as client as opposed to in
Client server mode. I guess that you can fall into either camp with that
setup!

You must miss the joy (not) of designing pretty user interfaces for petty
users who don't know their a*ses from their elbows. 

Dave Crozier

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Dave,

Out of interest 80 - 90%% of my Foxpro programs run in batch overnight
on a server with no visual interface (Prob why VS6 is still good for my
needs); is this your mythical 10% or are you thinking in a client server
model?

::a

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About 90% of what all VFP development covers!

Dave Crozier

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> His thesis, that rapid development, test-driven development, SOA,
> scripting, and web-based updates are restricted to apps within the
> browser is just missing the boat. He's confusing the implementation
> with the architecture, imo.

what the  on earth is desktop software development?

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Re: [NF] Another app broken by IE7

Jaime Vasquez wrote:
> For your eyes pleasure:
>
>
> http://www.thedatafarm.com/blog/content/binary/wsftpnever.png
>   

Wanna bet that we've all got some code like that somewhere in our past 
apps where we use something like this and preface it with a comment 
saying "This should never happen!";-)

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Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-10 Thread Man-wai CHANG


Did he mean we are moving back to mainframe era, now called servers?

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RE: Can FPD2.6 application run on Windows 2003 server

2007-01-10 Thread Christof Wollenhaupt

Hi Malcolm,

> Google "tamedos" - this may be a solution?

Works fine on the desktop and on Windows 2000 Terminal Server, but
unfortunately not on W2003.

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RE: Strange error message

2007-01-10 Thread Christof Wollenhaupt

Hi John,

You get the locking error, because your project contains a DBC (database)
that is opened elsewhere, either on your machine or by an user of your
application. VFP tries to recompile all stored procedures. To locate the
faulty lines, enter

OPEN DATABASE c:\pontotoc\pontotoc.dbc
SET DATABASE TO pontotoc
MODIFY PROCEDURE

Probably the line with ENDIF contains some additional characters that have
been inserted accidentally.


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Re: [NF] Neat Free Desktop Remote Control

2007-01-10 Thread Ajit Abraham

Dave Crozier wrote:
> 
> http://www.crossloop.com
> 

Great find!

Thanks for sharing.

_Ajit Abraham

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[NF] Genaology data for UK ports is now open.

2007-01-10 Thread Stephen Russell



LONDON, England (Reuters) -- People looking to track ancestors who emigrated
from British ports will from Wednesday be able to search online passenger
lists of the ships that carried them to new lands.

Released by Britain's National Archives, the passenger manifests give an
insight into all long-distance trips made by 30 million travelers from the
country's ports between 1890 and 1960, including that of the Titanic which
sank in 1912.


Stephen Russell
DBA / .Net Developer
 
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missiles and misguided men." 
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