Re: [OT] Russell's Teapot

[Michael Madigan]

I'm quite sure Haggard is still homosexual.  I hear he
likes Japanese men.  You have a shot Toshi!.



--- "Helio W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
http://russellsteapot.com/images/rsgallery/original/Image62.jpg
> 
> Another joke:
> 
> Haggard now "completely heterosexual
> 
> DENVER - One of four ministers who oversaw three
> weeks of intensive
> counseling for the Rev. Ted Haggard said the
> disgraced minister
> emerged convinced that he is "completely
> heterosexual."
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> http://tinyurl.com/2exhat
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RE: [OT] Astronaut charged with kidnap attempt

[Michael Madigan]

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RE: [OT] Astronaut charged with kidnap attempt

[Adam Buckland]

Once again geography not your strong point is it Michael:

I'm not English


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In England they're called chavs, and Adam is king chav


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> Think Madagin.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed
> Leafe
> 
> 
>   It's an USA thing. 'White trash' is considered the
> highest form of  
> the American Ideal. They are invariably Christian,
> think GWB is a  
> great President, support any sort of war that is
> proposed, and vote  
> straight-line Republican. They actually think that
> NASCAR racing is a  
> "sport" and that people who drive such cars are
> "athletes". They  
> disdain education and educated people, and think
> that Budweiser is  
> actually what beer is supposed to taste like.
> 
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Re: FPW2.6: Printing Problem?

[Alan Bourke]

On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 03:32:44 +, "Desmond Lloyd"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>   Any hints or suggestions
> would be greatly appreciated...

You effectively have to print to an LPT port, captured to the shared
printer. Printing to UNC paths is flaky, and trying to print directly to
an IP address won't work.
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Re: will FPD2.6 programs run on Vista?

[Alan Bourke]

On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 11:18:55 -0800, "ken.com"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Has anyone tried this? What if I need to put files=99 in config.nt?  HP
> says they have modified their Vista so that config.nt and 
> autoexec.nt cannot be modified as in WinXP.

Well, 32-bit Vista still has the 16-bit subsystem so in theory it should
work, despite what you may read on the web, see here:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/aa905017.aspx). To quote:

"Will my MS-DOS applications continue to run under Windows Vista without
modification?

Yes, they will. "

That would apply to Win16 apps like FoxPro For Windows as well.

 I don't know if HP have done something rights-wise to disallow access
 to AUTOEXEC.NT.

16-bit stuff will not work on *any* 64-bit Windows, be it XP or Vista or
whatever.
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RE: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?

[Virgil Bierschwale]

I'm looking for a hi-standard "Victor" one of these days when I have the
money.
Excellent target pistol and I want to add a laser dot system for shooting
"coons" that get into the chickens at night 


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Not for a living, but I've got a few. Do you need one?

John

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john harvey wrote:
> They have kept me alive for a long time!
> 

So you sell guns for a living?

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
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> 
> Ok to sum it up then: guns contribute to global warming ?
> They sure don't contribute to safety
> 
> A+
> jml
> 
> 
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Re: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?

[Ricardo Aráoz]

john harvey wrote:
> Not for a living, but I've got a few. Do you need one?
> 

No, thanks. Actually my WITS have kept me alive for a half century. I
think I'll trust my brain (over a gun) for the next half.

> John
> 
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> 
> john harvey wrote:
>> They have kept me alive for a long time!
>>
> 
> So you sell guns for a living?
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>> Of Jean Laeremans
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 4:39 PM
>> To: ProFox Email List
>> Subject: Re: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?
>>
>> Ok to sum it up then: guns contribute to global warming ?
>> They sure don't contribute to safety
>>
>> A+
>> jml
>>
>>
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Re: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?

[Ricardo Aráoz]

john harvey wrote:
> I would blame them all. 
> 

So you would blame the arms dealers. That would suggest you are against
the NRA. Is that so?

> John
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Of Ricardo Aráoz
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> 
> I think Evo Morales (elected president of Bolivia for the ignorant half
> of the list) would passionately agree with this, he's probably
> considering affiliation to the NRA. He reasons that if you consider that
> guns don't kill people, that people kill people, then all of you would
> agree that drugs don't kill people, the person who introduces the drug
> into the body kills them (it would mostly be suicide). So why blame the
> producer of coke leaves, or the chemist who obtains cocaine, or the poor
> arms dealer... sorry, drug dealer who sells them. We should only blame
> the person who uses or administers drugs (doctors beware!).
> 
> 
> Michael Madigan wrote:
>> If he hates the bearing of arms, he's really going to
>> hate the anti-abortion amendment.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- Robert Calco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 6, 2007, at 1:28 PM, Ed Leafe wrote:
>>>
 On Feb 6, 2007, at 1:23 PM, David Crooks wrote:

> How can anyone prove that???  Did they have the
>>> same thermometers 200
> years ago that are in use today???  There is no
>>> way!!!
>> Some global warming.
> I agree. I was cold in Albany, NY 200 years ago
>>> and guess what?   
> It is
> still cold in Albany, NY. LOL!
I love how some people only read half of
>>> something. They see a term
 such as "global warming" and completely miss the
>>> 'global' part of it.
 Sort of like the same brilliant minds who read the
>>> 2nd Amendment as
 guaranteeing the unfettered right to keep and bear
>>> arms, completely
 missing the "well-regulated militia" part.
>>> Or how some people read the whole part of something,
>>> entirely out of  
>>> context.
>>>
>>> The purpose of the 'well-regulated militia' was to
>>> protect the people  
>>> from an oppressive government, and was not intended
>>> to establish a  
>>> particular "well-regulated militia", as some seem
>>> curiously to argue.  
>>> Rather, by making the right to keep and bear arms
>>> universal to all  
>>> citizens in the Bill of Rights, and not just to some
>>> special  
>>> "militia" class, this formulation allowed for the
>>> people to self- 
>>> organize into "well-regulated" militia as needed to
>>> defend themselves  
>>> from tyranny. In general, our founders were into
>>> "self- 
>>> regulation" (particularly of the small-r
>>> "republican" variety), not  
>>> nanny government.
>>>
>>> The enhancements to the federal power and
>>> consolidation under a  
>>> single federal government under the Constitution was
>>> an economic  
>>> necessity. Nevertheless, the founders still saw fit
>>> to guarantee each  
>>> state in the union a "republican" form of
>>> government, and each  
>>> citizen a right to keep and bear arms. They hardly
>>> envisioned the  
>>> federal government confiscating guns from everyone
>>> except the police  
>>> or army. Maybe one or two of them thought that was a
>>> good idea (after  
>>> all, they did discuss the various alternatives, and
>>> even my hero  
>>> Hamilton had a brain fart about re-establishing
>>> monarchy), but the  
>>> consensus was to state explicitly a right to keep an
>>> bear arms to  
>>> all, and the reason sited was not just so the
>>> government could  
>>> regulate some once and future national guard or
>>> whatever, but rather  
>>> because an oppressive government could only be
>>> countered by a people  
>>> armed to defend themselves.
>>>
>>> Context Ed is just as important as the precise
>>> wording of a phrase.
>>>
>>> - Bob
>>>
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Re: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> The middle east has a long history of violence between rival tribal 
> fashions.  Back in the old days, before gunpowder was discovered, the 
> killing simple took other forms like:
> 
> beheading
> target practice on captives with bow and arrows and spears
> disembowelment with swords
> drawn and quartered with horses
> stoning
> hanging
> torture to death
> poling
> 
> Would you prefer any of these to being blow to piece with car bombs or 
> tortured and shot execution style by death squads.
> 

I wouldn't know. Did you ask them??? I mean, you coming from the 'land
of the free' where everyone can have his saying (or is that only for use
 inside your borders?)


> Below is an article regarding a mother, who was bound to a wheel chair, 
> who helplessly watched as the family pit bull chewed here daughter's 
> arms off.  Luckily for the daughter, she was able to survive until 
> police arrived using her arm stubs to fend off the pit bull from getting 
> to her throat.  Perhaps if this family had owned a hand gun this tragedy 
> could have been prevented.  Sometimes minutes count and there just isn't 
> time to wait for police.

And my cousin once caught a cough so as of then I always wear a
cloth over my mouth and nose. And once a rain ruined my shoes so it's
rain boots every day, you never know.

> 
> Here is another article where a man was attacked by a pit bull while out 
> on his morning walk, and a hand gun would have come in very handy; 
> although, this man managed to survive without the gun.  Many other 
> people do not survive attacks by large dogs.
> 
> http://www.click2houston.com/news/10889479/detail.html
> 
> You never know what is going to happen, and it's wise to be prepared to 
> protect oneself and the family against whatever threat might occur.  A 
> hand gun is especially useful when age begins to degrade our physical 
> capabilities to protect ourself and family.


That's why I always carry along my faithful portable atomic bomb. Any
dog attacks me and I'll blow us all up.

> 
> My next door neighbor has a huge pit bull btw, as does my neighbor 
> directly across the street.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> LelandJ
> 
> Ed Leafe wrote:
>> On Feb 6, 2007, at 4:26 PM, john harvey wrote:
>>
>>   
>>> I said society, not an anarchy.
>>> 
>>  But guns were the critical component of creating the desired  
>> behavior. Isn't the assumption that if everyone were to have a gun  
>> that civilized behavior would inevitably follow, since everyone must  
>> assume that everyone can defend themselves? Well, that's exactly the  
>> situation in Iraq, and it resembles the Wild West of the gold rush  
>> days. Wow, come to think of it, everyone there had guns, too, and  
>> there was an awful lot of crime and violence.
>>
>> -- Ed Leafe
>> -- http://leafe.com
>> -- http://dabodev.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Pete Theisen wrote:
> On Tuesday 06 February 2007 1:57 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> I love how some people only read half of something. They see a term
>>> such as "global warming" and completely miss the 'global' part of it.
>>> Sort of like the same brilliant minds who read the 2nd Amendment as
>>> guaranteeing the unfettered right to keep and bear arms, completely
>>> missing the "well-regulated militia" part.
>>>
>>> -- Ed Leafe
>> you know the militia was comprised of ordinary citizens. It wasn't a
>> standing army that they worried about having gunss.
> 
> Hi John!
> 
> I want gunss. Audrey Hepburn was quoted as saying you can't have too much 
> chocolate. I say you can't have too many gunss. The extra s is for emphasis!
> 
> I rarely shoot, I simply admire their solidity and craftsmanship. 

You should try a condom on the muzzle of that magnum. Then it wouldn't
hurt so much when you .


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Re: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Pete Theisen wrote:
> On Tuesday 06 February 2007 2:02 pm, Ed Leafe wrote:
>> On Feb 6, 2007, at 1:57 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> you know the militia was comprised of ordinary citizens. It wasn't
>>> a standing
>>> army that they worried about having gunss.
>>  Exactly. There were militias, and there were 'well-regulated
>> militias'. Their main job was to ensure the peace locally, as opposed
>> to standing armies, who were only supposed to fight foreign forces.
>> The goal was to be able to guarantee that such local militias would
>> never be disarmed by a leader who wanted to use the army to tyrannize
>> the country.
> 
> Hi Ed!
> 
> And to enable this, every honest person who is able to handle a gun must have 
> one. "Able" includes temperament, we don't demand that those deathly afraid 
> of the very idea of a gun have to participate.
> 
> We have had leaders who wanted to tyrannize the country, might have them 
> again.

Well, you have them right now. And you're doing nothing about it.


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>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [OT] Astronaut charged with kidnap attempt

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Adam Buckland wrote:
> Once again geography not your strong point is it Michael:
> 

I'm curious, what IS his strong point?
Does he even have a point?


> I'm not English
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> In England they're called chavs, and Adam is king chav
> 
> 
> --- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Think Madagin.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed
>> Leafe
>>
>>
>>  It's an USA thing. 'White trash' is considered the
>> highest form of  
>> the American Ideal. They are invariably Christian,
>> think GWB is a  
>> great President, support any sort of war that is
>> proposed, and vote  
>> straight-line Republican. They actually think that
>> NASCAR racing is a  
>> "sport" and that people who drive such cars are
>> "athletes". They  
>> disdain education and educated people, and think
>> that Budweiser is  
>> actually what beer is supposed to taste like.
>>
>> -- Ed Leafe
>> -- http://leafe.com
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>>
>>
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Re: [NF] Firefox 2 and memory grabbing

[Man-wai CHANG]

Same here, esp when you hit YouTube. I actually filed a bug report...

> Yes.
>> Anyone else see a huge amount of RAM getting used by Firefox when it does
>> 1) RSS feeds
>> 2) Audio program
>> 3) Video program
>> 4) anytime browser is open for 10 min or more?

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RE: [NF] Firefox 2 and memory grabbing

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Man-wai CHANG <> wrote:
> Same here, esp when you hit YouTube. I actually filed a bug report...
> 

Thanks.  Yes YouTube was one of the worst but I can go to google movies and
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RE: [OT] I make $6.50 an hour. Am I poor?

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Pete Theisen <> wrote:
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> 
> Hi Helio!
> 
> For a while I was getting $2 per hour, but the boss' wife made him
> give me a raise. This is since I closed my clinic and took a
> "retirement" job.  

Welcome to WalMart?


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RE: [OT] Astronaut charged with kidnap attempt

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Re: [OT] Astronaut charged with kidnap attempt

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On Feb 7, 2007, at 2:01 AM, Adam Buckland wrote:

> Think Madagin.

Oxymoron?

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Problem accessing Access 2K table from VFP9SP1

[MB Software Solutions]

(This is probably an easy one for most of you...I hope!)

I'm trying to simply read data from Access tables.  I verify that i 
establish a connection to the MDB, yet the SQLEXEC fails, and when I 
look at AERROR() it seems to be looking for the MDB file in the current 
directory rather than what's specified in the connection string.

Here's my code:
i = SQLSTRINGCONNECT("Driver={Microsoft Access Driver 
(*.mdb)};Dbq=C:\downloads\timeclock\data\arx_active.mdb;Uid=Admin;Pwd=;")
WAIT WINDOW i
WAIT WINDOW SQLEXEC(i,"select Firstname,MI,Lastname from 
arx_active.Employees")

What am I doing wrong?  Thx...
--Mike

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RE: Problem accessing Access 2K table from VFP9SP1

[Jeff Johnson]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:37 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Problem accessing Access 2K table from VFP9SP1
> 
> (This is probably an easy one for most of you...I hope!)
> 
> I'm trying to simply read data from Access tables.  I verify that i
> establish a connection to the MDB, yet the SQLEXEC fails, and when I
> look at AERROR() it seems to be looking for the MDB file in the current
> directory rather than what's specified in the connection string.
> 
> Here's my code:
> i = SQLSTRINGCONNECT("Driver={Microsoft Access Driver
> (*.mdb)};Dbq=C:\downloads\timeclock\data\arx_active.mdb;Uid=Admin;Pwd=;")
> WAIT WINDOW i
> WAIT WINDOW SQLEXEC(i,"select Firstname,MI,Lastname from
> arx_active.Employees")
> 
> What am I doing wrong?  Thx...
> --Mike
> 
> --
> Michael J. Babcock, MCP
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> http://fabmate.com
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> 

Michael:  I don't see anything wrong, but when I have used ODBC with Access
tables I remember some slight differences in the SELECT syntax.  I would
look to see if the syntax of your SELECT works in Access.  Someone can
correct me if I'm wrong, but the SELECT statement should be an Access
statement and not necessarily a VFP statement.  There are some differences.

At least that's my recollection of when I did an application that worked
with Access tables.

Jeff

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Re: Problem accessing Access 2K table from VFP9SP1

[Andy Davies]

try:
Provider="Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0";Driver={Microsoft Access Driver
(*.mdb)};Dbq=C:\downloads\timeclock\data\arx_active.mdb;Uid=Admin;Pwd=;")

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RE: Problem accessing Access 2K table from VFP9SP1

[Dave Crozier]

My God He's back!

Andy, hope you enjoyed your "vacation".

Dave Crozier

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try:
Provider="Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0";Driver={Microsoft Access Driver
(*.mdb)};Dbq=C:\downloads\timeclock\data\arx_active.mdb;Uid=Admin;Pwd=;")

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Re: Problem accessing Access 2K table from VFP9SP1

[MB Software Solutions]

Andy Davies wrote:
> try:
> Provider="Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0";Driver={Microsoft Access Driver
> (*.mdb)};Dbq=C:\downloads\timeclock\data\arx_active.mdb;Uid=Admin;Pwd=;")
>
>   
Tried this below, but it fails with AERROR reporting:  "[Microsoft][ODBC 
Driver Manager] Data source name not found and no default driver specified"

i = 
SQLSTRINGCONNECT([Provider="Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0";Driver={Microsoft 
Access 
Driver(*.mdb)};Dbq=C:\downloads\timeclock\data\arx_active.mdb;Uid=Admin;Pwd=;])

I'm trying to go with a DSNless connection so that SQLSTRINGCONNECT can 
be all that I need and no configuring anything special on the client PC.

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Re: Problem accessing Access 2K table from VFP9SP1

[MB Software Solutions]

MB Software Solutions wrote:
> (This is probably an easy one for most of you...I hope!)
>
> I'm trying to simply read data from Access tables.  I verify that i 
> establish a connection to the MDB, yet the SQLEXEC fails, and when I 
> look at AERROR() it seems to be looking for the MDB file in the current 
> directory rather than what's specified in the connection string.
>
> Here's my code:
> i = SQLSTRINGCONNECT("Driver={Microsoft Access Driver 
> (*.mdb)};Dbq=C:\downloads\timeclock\data\arx_active.mdb;Uid=Admin;Pwd=;")
> WAIT WINDOW i
> WAIT WINDOW SQLEXEC(i,"select Firstname,MI,Lastname from 
> arx_active.Employees")
>
> What am I doing wrong?  Thx...
> --Mike
>   

I did a "CD C:\downloads\timeclock\data" prior to my SQLEXEC above and 
it works great then.but why should I have to change directory to 
that folder?  Weird.  I guess I can work around this if I must.  It's 
just kinda silly/kludgey, imo.

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RE: To flush or not to flush, that is the question

[Graham Brown \(CompSYS\)]

Hi John

Haven't had chance to look at 9 yet. My libraries are tried and tested on v8
so need to get some spare time to check with 9.

btw the scenario I have is exactly as you say, a parameters table holding
the next available number. Will look at autoincs thanks.

I've put the flush code out there today so will see if this fixes the
problem, like you say it is highly intermittent (twice in a year!) Will also
post back in a little while when I've got some feedback.

Regards


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How are you generating the invoice numbers - from a table holding the next
number?  I had a problem like this generating primary keys using a next
number table on a couple of apps.  It be-devilled us for years, I couldn't
find what was causing it as it seemed to be intermittent - it only went away
when I upgraded and started using auto incrementing fields.

Why upgrade to VFP 8, why not VFP 9?

John Weller
01380 723235
07976 393631

>
>
> I've got a weird problem whereby I get duplicate invoice numbers in a vfp6
> native app. Does a tableupdate issue a flush at the same time? It has just
> duplicated  today for the second time in about a year.
>
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RE: Problem accessing Access 2K table from VFP9SP1

[Tracy Pearson]

This connection string should work for you.

cConnectString = "Driver={Microsoft Access Driver (*.mdb)};" ;
+ "DefaultDir=C:\downloads\timeclock\data;" ;
+ "DBQ=arx_active.mdb;Uid=Admin;Pwd=;"


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RE: Problem accessing Access 2K table from VFP9SP1

[Andy Davies]

> My God He's back!
> Andy, hope you enjoyed your "vacation".
> Dave Crozier

Come on Dave - 7 weeks doing absolutely naff all on the palm-fringed
beaches of Goa - how could *anyone* enjoy that?
Especially with beer now costing 60p a pint in the bars, and a meal for two
up to nearly a tenner by the time you've had a few drinks!


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RE: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?

[john harvey]

NRA isn't an "arms dealing" group. WE promote gun safety and protection of
the family.

John

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john harvey wrote:
> I would blame them all. 
> 

So you would blame the arms dealers. That would suggest you are against
the NRA. Is that so?

> John
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> I think Evo Morales (elected president of Bolivia for the ignorant half
> of the list) would passionately agree with this, he's probably
> considering affiliation to the NRA. He reasons that if you consider that
> guns don't kill people, that people kill people, then all of you would
> agree that drugs don't kill people, the person who introduces the drug
> into the body kills them (it would mostly be suicide). So why blame the
> producer of coke leaves, or the chemist who obtains cocaine, or the poor
> arms dealer... sorry, drug dealer who sells them. We should only blame
> the person who uses or administers drugs (doctors beware!).
> 
> 
> Michael Madigan wrote:
>> If he hates the bearing of arms, he's really going to
>> hate the anti-abortion amendment.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- Robert Calco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 6, 2007, at 1:28 PM, Ed Leafe wrote:
>>>
 On Feb 6, 2007, at 1:23 PM, David Crooks wrote:

> How can anyone prove that???  Did they have the
>>> same thermometers 200
> years ago that are in use today???  There is no
>>> way!!!
>> Some global warming.
> I agree. I was cold in Albany, NY 200 years ago
>>> and guess what?   
> It is
> still cold in Albany, NY. LOL!
I love how some people only read half of
>>> something. They see a term
 such as "global warming" and completely miss the
>>> 'global' part of it.
 Sort of like the same brilliant minds who read the
>>> 2nd Amendment as
 guaranteeing the unfettered right to keep and bear
>>> arms, completely
 missing the "well-regulated militia" part.
>>> Or how some people read the whole part of something,
>>> entirely out of  
>>> context.
>>>
>>> The purpose of the 'well-regulated militia' was to
>>> protect the people  
>>> from an oppressive government, and was not intended
>>> to establish a  
>>> particular "well-regulated militia", as some seem
>>> curiously to argue.  
>>> Rather, by making the right to keep and bear arms
>>> universal to all  
>>> citizens in the Bill of Rights, and not just to some
>>> special  
>>> "militia" class, this formulation allowed for the
>>> people to self- 
>>> organize into "well-regulated" militia as needed to
>>> defend themselves  
>>> from tyranny. In general, our founders were into
>>> "self- 
>>> regulation" (particularly of the small-r
>>> "republican" variety), not  
>>> nanny government.
>>>
>>> The enhancements to the federal power and
>>> consolidation under a  
>>> single federal government under the Constitution was
>>> an economic  
>>> necessity. Nevertheless, the founders still saw fit
>>> to guarantee each  
>>> state in the union a "republican" form of
>>> government, and each  
>>> citizen a right to keep and bear arms. They hardly
>>> envisioned the  
>>> federal government confiscating guns from everyone
>>> except the police  
>>> or army. Maybe one or two of them thought that was a
>>> good idea (after  
>>> all, they did discuss the various alternatives, and
>>> even my hero  
>>> Hamilton had a brain fart about re-establishing
>>> monarchy), but the  
>>> consensus was to state explicitly a right to keep an
>>> bear arms to  
>>> all, and the reason sited was not just so the
>>> government could  
>>> regulate some once and future national guard or
>>> whatever, but rather  
>>> because an oppressive government could only be
>>> countered by a people  
>>> armed to defend themselves.
>>>
>>> Context Ed is just as important as the precise
>>> wording of a phrase.
>>>
>>> - Bob
>>>
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RE: Problem accessing Access 2K table from VFP9SP1

[Andy Davies]

Tracy pearson said:
>This connection string should work for you.
>
>cConnectString = "Driver={Microsoft Access Driver (*.mdb)};" ;
 >+ "DefaultDir=C:\downloads\timeclock\data;" ;
 >+ "DBQ=arx_active.mdb;Uid=Admin;Pwd=;"

I don't often use Access but I just tried a couple of connections and the
simple format e.g.
nHndl = SQLSTRINGCONNECT("Driver={Microsoft Access Driver
(*.mdb)};Dbq=C:\downloads\timeclock\data\arx_active.mdb;")

works for me (without any cd ...)

(make sure your mdacs are either up to date or out of date - depending )

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RE: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?

[john harvey]

Gee, I wish I had me some of them "wits". How would a fella go about getting
some of them?

John

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john harvey wrote:
> Not for a living, but I've got a few. Do you need one?
> 

No, thanks. Actually my WITS have kept me alive for a half century. I
think I'll trust my brain (over a gun) for the next half.

> John
> 
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> john harvey wrote:
>> They have kept me alive for a long time!
>>
> 
> So you sell guns for a living?
> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> Ok to sum it up then: guns contribute to global warming ?
>> They sure don't contribute to safety
>>
>> A+
>> jml
>>
>>
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Re: Buffer overruns & stuff

[Derek Kalweit]

> Totally unattended. It reads data from it's source, parses it and stores
> it as fast as the hard/software combo will allow. Absolutely no user
> input. Time bomb or messy code wouldn't surprise me at all.

What is the 'source' and 'destination'? I'm assuming one is MSSQL, but
what's the other? You say 'hard/software combo', so I'm wondering if
you might be interfacing with hardware? Or are you referring simply to
the local computer? How often is it crashing? Anything in the event
logs?


-- 
Derek


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Re: [NF] Front Page on Unix

[Ted Roche]

On 2/6/07, James E Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We're considering moving our Front Page 2003 web site (currently hosted by
> Comcast).
>

I don't use FP extensions, but noted this while shopping for a new
hosting provider:

Source: http://www.verio.com/unix-hosting-plans/

"† What happened to FrontPage and FrontPage extensions?
After nine years of being a popular Web authoring tool, FrontPage has
been discontinued by Microsoft in late 2006. Effective June 30, 2006
support for the Microsoft FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions for UNIX
has also been stopped by Microsoft. There are no plans for a FP2003
Server Extensions for UNIX release. Please refer to Microsoft for
additional information. You may continue to use the FPSE kit that you
have previously downloaded. There will be no future releases, bug
fixes or security patches."

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RE: To flush or not to flush, that is the question

[Dave Crozier]

Graham,
On the Index table how are you locking the parameter (Next record Id) table?
99% of the time VFP will do this automatically for you but I prefer the
Rlock()/Flock() manual method, that way I can be SURE of getting no
duplicates. This is the ONLY time I ever use manual locking however.

Dave Crozier


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Hi John

Haven't had chance to look at 9 yet. My libraries are tried and tested on v8
so need to get some spare time to check with 9.

btw the scenario I have is exactly as you say, a parameters table holding
the next available number. Will look at autoincs thanks.

I've put the flush code out there today so will see if this fixes the
problem, like you say it is highly intermittent (twice in a year!) Will also
post back in a little while when I've got some feedback.

Regards


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How are you generating the invoice numbers - from a table holding the next
number?  I had a problem like this generating primary keys using a next
number table on a couple of apps.  It be-devilled us for years, I couldn't
find what was causing it as it seemed to be intermittent - it only went away
when I upgraded and started using auto incrementing fields.

Why upgrade to VFP 8, why not VFP 9?

John Weller
01380 723235
07976 393631

>
>
> I've got a weird problem whereby I get duplicate invoice numbers in a vfp6
> native app. Does a tableupdate issue a flush at the same time? It has just
> duplicated  today for the second time in about a year.
>
>



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Re: To flush or not to flush, that is the question

[Peter Cushing]

Graham Brown (CompSYS) wrote:
> btw the scenario I have is exactly as you say, a parameters table holding
> the next available number. 
I had a bit of a problem a couple of years ago with the same scenario 
but we had two systems accessing the parameter table.  The first was our 
old FPD 2.6 system and the other our newer VFP7 system.  It appeared 
that VFP was cacheing the table and could not tell that the old system 
had updated it, even though we were using RLOCK() then unlock etc.  What 
I had to do to make it work was get VFP to close the table after it had 
got the number.  It gave me a right headache with duplicate barcode 
numbers. :-(

Peter



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RE: To flush or not to flush, that is the question

[Dave Crozier]

Graham,
In a lighter vein, my mother always used to say on the question to flush or
not to flush:

"If its yellow...let it mellow but if it's brown...then FLUSH it down!!"


Dave Crozier


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Graham Brown (CompSYS) wrote:
> btw the scenario I have is exactly as you say, a parameters table holding
> the next available number. 
I had a bit of a problem a couple of years ago with the same scenario 
but we had two systems accessing the parameter table.  The first was our 
old FPD 2.6 system and the other our newer VFP7 system.  It appeared 
that VFP was cacheing the table and could not tell that the old system 
had updated it, even though we were using RLOCK() then unlock etc.  What 
I had to do to make it work was get VFP to close the table after it had 
got the number.  It gave me a right headache with duplicate barcode 
numbers. :-(

Peter



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Re: To flush or not to flush, that is the question

[Ted Roche]

On 2/7/07, Dave Crozier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On the Index table how are you locking the parameter (Next record Id) table?
> 99% of the time VFP will do this automatically for you but I prefer the
> Rlock()/Flock() manual method, that way I can be SURE of getting no
> duplicates. This is the ONLY time I ever use manual locking however.

I'd amplify your statement a little: You MUST lock a record to ensure
that VFP is reading the most current value from a table. In PK
generation, this is essential and mandatory. In other places in the
application, that's what conflict detection is for.

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RE: To flush or not to flush, that is the question

[Dave Crozier]

Ted,
I omitted to add that fact. Well expanded and amplified.

Dave Crozier

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On 2/7/07, Dave Crozier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On the Index table how are you locking the parameter (Next record Id)
table?
> 99% of the time VFP will do this automatically for you but I prefer the
> Rlock()/Flock() manual method, that way I can be SURE of getting no
> duplicates. This is the ONLY time I ever use manual locking however.

I'd amplify your statement a little: You MUST lock a record to ensure
that VFP is reading the most current value from a table. In PK
generation, this is essential and mandatory. In other places in the
application, that's what conflict detection is for.

-- 
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RE: [OT] Astronaut charged with kidnap attempt

[Michael Madigan]

Do you talk funny?  Then you're english.


--- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Once again geography not your strong point is it
> Michael:
> 
> I'm not English
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> attempt
> 
> In England they're called chavs, and Adam is king
> chav
> 
> 
> --- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > Think Madagin.
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed
> > Leafe
> > 
> > 
> > It's an USA thing. 'White trash' is considered
> the
> > highest form of  
> > the American Ideal. They are invariably Christian,
> > think GWB is a  
> > great President, support any sort of war that is
> > proposed, and vote  
> > straight-line Republican. They actually think that
> > NASCAR racing is a  
> > "sport" and that people who drive such cars are
> > "athletes". They  
> > disdain education and educated people, and think
> > that Budweiser is  
> > actually what beer is supposed to taste like.
> > 
> > -- Ed Leafe
> > -- http://leafe.com
> > -- http://dabodev.com
> > 
> > 
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RE: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?

[Michael Madigan]

You open up your skull and take half your brains OUT.


--- john harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Gee, I wish I had me some of them "wits". How would
> a fella go about getting
> some of them?
> 
> John
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Facts?
> 
> john harvey wrote:
> > Not for a living, but I've got a few. Do you need
> one?
> > 
> 
> No, thanks. Actually my WITS have kept me alive for
> a half century. I
> think I'll trust my brain (over a gun) for the next
> half.
> 
> > John
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> > Of Ricardo Aráoz
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:56 AM
> > To: ProFox Email List
> > Subject: Re: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard
> Facts?
> > 
> > john harvey wrote:
> >> They have kept me alive for a long time!
> >>
> > 
> > So you sell guns for a living?
> > 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf
> >> Of Jean Laeremans
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 4:39 PM
> >> To: ProFox Email List
> >> Subject: Re: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard
> Facts?
> >>
> >> Ok to sum it up then: guns contribute to global
> warming ?
> >> They sure don't contribute to safety
> >>
> >> A+
> >> jml
> >>
> >>
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Re: [OT] Astronaut charged with kidnap attempt

[Michael Madigan]

I'm kind of like Dr. Dolittle, I can talk to the
animals.


--- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Adam Buckland wrote:
> > Once again geography not your strong point is it
> Michael:
> > 
> 
> I'm curious, what IS his strong point?
> Does he even have a point?
> 
> 
> > I'm not English
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
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> > Sent: 07 February 2007 08:30
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> > Subject: RE: [OT] Astronaut charged with kidnap
> attempt
> > 
> > In England they're called chavs, and Adam is king
> chav
> > 
> > 
> > --- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > 
> >> Think Madagin.
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed
> >> Leafe
> >>
> >>
> >>It's an USA thing. 'White trash' is considered
> the
> >> highest form of  
> >> the American Ideal. They are invariably
> Christian,
> >> think GWB is a  
> >> great President, support any sort of war that is
> >> proposed, and vote  
> >> straight-line Republican. They actually think
> that
> >> NASCAR racing is a  
> >> "sport" and that people who drive such cars are
> >> "athletes". They  
> >> disdain education and educated people, and think
> >> that Budweiser is  
> >> actually what beer is supposed to taste like.
> >>
> >> -- Ed Leafe
> >> -- http://leafe.com
> >> -- http://dabodev.com
> >>
> >>
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Re: [OT] Astronaut charged with kidnap attempt

[Michael Madigan]

I'm kind of like Dr. Dolittle, I can talk to the
animals.


--- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Adam Buckland wrote:
> > Once again geography not your strong point is it
> Michael:
> > 
> 
> I'm curious, what IS his strong point?
> Does he even have a point?
> 
> 
> > I'm not English
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Michael Madigan
> > Sent: 07 February 2007 08:30
> > To: ProFox Email List
> > Subject: RE: [OT] Astronaut charged with kidnap
> attempt
> > 
> > In England they're called chavs, and Adam is king
> chav
> > 
> > 
> > --- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > 
> >> Think Madagin.
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed
> >> Leafe
> >>
> >>
> >>It's an USA thing. 'White trash' is considered
> the
> >> highest form of  
> >> the American Ideal. They are invariably
> Christian,
> >> think GWB is a  
> >> great President, support any sort of war that is
> >> proposed, and vote  
> >> straight-line Republican. They actually think
> that
> >> NASCAR racing is a  
> >> "sport" and that people who drive such cars are
> >> "athletes". They  
> >> disdain education and educated people, and think
> >> that Budweiser is  
> >> actually what beer is supposed to taste like.
> >>
> >> -- Ed Leafe
> >> -- http://leafe.com
> >> -- http://dabodev.com
> >>
> >>
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RE: Buffer overruns & stuff

[Lew Schwartz]

The source is a VFP cursor created by querying an MSSQL db. My app reads
from & parses the data in the cursor into native VFP tables stored
locally. There's no user interface. Crash about every 15min. 

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Subject: Re: Buffer overruns & stuff

> Totally unattended. It reads data from it's source, parses it and 
> stores it as fast as the hard/software combo will allow. Absolutely no

> user input. Time bomb or messy code wouldn't surprise me at all.

What is the 'source' and 'destination'? I'm assuming one is MSSQL, but
what's the other? You say 'hard/software combo', so I'm wondering if you
might be interfacing with hardware? Or are you referring simply to the
local computer? How often is it crashing? Anything in the event logs?


--
Derek


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error during upsizing

[Judith Barer]

I am trying to upsize a table to sql server 2005 express using the vfp
8.0 upsizing wizard.  I am getting the following error

Error #1234 convertvfplogicaltosqlserverbut(0) subscript is outside
defined range.   The table is fairly simple with 3 fields. One integer
field, and two char fields

The indexes are all regular indexes. 

Does anybody have any idea what the problem might be.  I have upsized
other tables from this database without any problem.

 

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RE: To flush or not to flush, that is the question

[Graham Brown \(CompSYS\)]

Hi
The code is just use optimistic ie tableupdate(.t.)

The params table is one record so will stick a rlock in for good measure as
well.



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Sent: 07 February 2007 17:00
To: 'ProFox Email List'
Subject: RE: To flush or not to flush, that is the question


Ted,
I omitted to add that fact. Well expanded and amplified.

Dave Crozier

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Sent: 07 February 2007 16:53
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: Re: To flush or not to flush, that is the question

On 2/7/07, Dave Crozier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On the Index table how are you locking the parameter (Next record Id)
table?
> 99% of the time VFP will do this automatically for you but I prefer the
> Rlock()/Flock() manual method, that way I can be SURE of getting no
> duplicates. This is the ONLY time I ever use manual locking however.

I'd amplify your statement a little: You MUST lock a record to ensure
that VFP is reading the most current value from a table. In PK
generation, this is essential and mandatory. In other places in the
application, that's what conflict detection is for.

--
Ted Roche
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RE: To flush or not to flush, that is the question

[Graham Brown \(CompSYS\)]

lol

Cheers for that, went down lovely with supper!

G.
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Graham,
In a lighter vein, my mother always used to say on the question to flush or
not to flush:

"If its yellow...let it mellow but if it's brown...then FLUSH it down!!"


Dave Crozier


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Graham Brown (CompSYS) wrote:
> btw the scenario I have is exactly as you say, a parameters table holding
> the next available number.
I had a bit of a problem a couple of years ago with the same scenario
but we had two systems accessing the parameter table.  The first was our
old FPD 2.6 system and the other our newer VFP7 system.  It appeared
that VFP was cacheing the table and could not tell that the old system
had updated it, even though we were using RLOCK() then unlock etc.  What
I had to do to make it work was get VFP to close the table after it had
got the number.  It gave me a right headache with duplicate barcode
numbers. :-(

Peter



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Re: [OT] Astronaut charged with kidnap attempt

[Paul Hill]

Hey, Mike's geography is just fine, check out his 'English' flags:

http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/1688929

:-)

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>
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[OT] Global Warming Studies Demand More Computer Power

[Leland F. Jackson, CPA]

Computers are being used to help better understand the causes and 
effects of Global Warming, and the role that human interferance with the 
planets envrionmental system causes or contributes to global warming.

#


*Global Warming Studies Demand More Compute Power*

With the release of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change 
 4th Assessment Report, even skeptics are 
acknowledging that global warming is heating up.

According to the 4th Assessment Report 
, we 
can expect rising oceans, warmer oceans, sea ice reduction, warmer 
winters, and the like, all thanks to human-derived greenhouse gases that 
are playing havoc with our climate. The 2007 report will be presented in 
four phases during the year, with the first phase focusing on physical 
evidence of global change

"We are now seeing, not merely predicting, effects of greenhouse warming 
on a scale and in ways that were not observable before," said Gabriele 
Hegerl, associate research professor at Duke University's Nicholas 
School of the Environment and Earth Sciences 
, who also co-authored a summary of the 
report for policymakers. Hegerl, a coordinating lead author of the IPCC 
report's chapter on "Understanding and Attributing Climate Change," goes 
on to say that "We've studied improved observations from land, sea and 
space, as well as better temperature reconstructions covering the last 
1,000 years. Understanding the observations is really what this all is 
about. For instance, looking at the patterns of change in 20th-century 
temperatures, we can now distinguish between changes caused by 
greenhouse gases, man-made aerosols, variability in solar radiation and 
major volcanic eruptions."

As you might expect all of this obervation and modeling requires 
computing power -- and lots of it. To that end, the National Oceanic and 
Atmospheric Administration  (NOAA) has activated 
its newest weather and climate supercomputers, increasing the 
computational might used for climate and weather forecasts by 320 
percent. The IBM machines process 14 trillion calculations per second at 
maximum performance and ingest more than 240 million global observations 
daily. These computers also will process data from Constellation 
Observing System for Meteorology, Ionosphere and Climate 
 (COSMIC) satellites, a series of six 
satellites launched in 2006.

"Better physics, better models, better data, and faster and more 
powerful supercomputing are the foundation for making better weather and 
climate forecasts," said Conrad C. Lautenbacher, undersecretary of 
commerce for oceans and atmosphere and NOAA administrator."

"One of the most fascinating things is that we see that changes have 
already happened or are happening now in more climate variables than 
just temperature," says Hegerl. "For instance, there have been observed 
changes in ocean temperatures, global rainfall and in circulation of the 
atmosphere. We now are beginning to understand that these changes occur 
at least partly in response to anthropogenic influences on climate. This 
allows us to better evaluate model simulations, which do simulate 
aspects of these changes, although not as successfully as they simulate 
changes in temperature."

http://www.ddj.com/blog/portal/archives/2007/02/global_warming.html

or

http://tinyurl.com/3yma5v

#---

Regards,

LelandJ


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[OT] Dubya trying to save Washington, DC from being flooded

[David Crooks]

>From http://www.dubyaspeak.com:

And there is distrust in Washington. I am surprised, frankly, at the
amount of distrust that exists in this town. And I'm sorry it's the
case, and I'll work hard to try to elevate it. 
-- Truer unintended words have never been spoken, Interview with Juan
Williams (NPR), Jan. 29, 2007


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Re: [OT] Global Warming Studies Demand More Computer Power

[Michael Madigan]

Of course using computers adds to CO2 emmissions. 
They should do the calculations by hand to save the
Earth.




--- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Computers are being used to help better understand
> the causes and 
> effects of Global Warming, and the role that human
> interferance with the 
> planets envrionmental system causes or contributes
> to global warming.
> 
> #
> 
> 
> *Global Warming Studies Demand More Compute
> Power*
> 
> With the release of the Intergovernmental Panel on
> Climate Change 
>  4th Assessment Report, even
> skeptics are 
> acknowledging that global warming is heating up.
> 
> According to the 4th Assessment Report 
>
,
> we 
> can expect rising oceans, warmer oceans, sea ice
> reduction, warmer 
> winters, and the like, all thanks to human-derived
> greenhouse gases that 
> are playing havoc with our climate. The 2007 report
> will be presented in 
> four phases during the year, with the first phase
> focusing on physical 
> evidence of global change
> 
> "We are now seeing, not merely predicting, effects
> of greenhouse warming 
> on a scale and in ways that were not observable
> before," said Gabriele 
> Hegerl, associate research professor at Duke
> University's Nicholas 
> School of the Environment and Earth Sciences 
> , who also
> co-authored a summary of the 
> report for policymakers. Hegerl, a coordinating lead
> author of the IPCC 
> report's chapter on "Understanding and Attributing
> Climate Change," goes 
> on to say that "We've studied improved observations
> from land, sea and 
> space, as well as better temperature reconstructions
> covering the last 
> 1,000 years. Understanding the observations is
> really what this all is 
> about. For instance, looking at the patterns of
> change in 20th-century 
> temperatures, we can now distinguish between changes
> caused by 
> greenhouse gases, man-made aerosols, variability in
> solar radiation and 
> major volcanic eruptions."
> 
> As you might expect all of this obervation and
> modeling requires 
> computing power -- and lots of it. To that end, the
> National Oceanic and 
> Atmospheric Administration 
> (NOAA) has activated 
> its newest weather and climate supercomputers,
> increasing the 
> computational might used for climate and weather
> forecasts by 320 
> percent. The IBM machines process 14 trillion
> calculations per second at 
> maximum performance and ingest more than 240 million
> global observations 
> daily. These computers also will process data from
> Constellation 
> Observing System for Meteorology, Ionosphere and
> Climate 
>  (COSMIC) satellites, a
> series of six 
> satellites launched in 2006.
> 
> "Better physics, better models, better data, and
> faster and more 
> powerful supercomputing are the foundation for
> making better weather and 
> climate forecasts," said Conrad C. Lautenbacher,
> undersecretary of 
> commerce for oceans and atmosphere and NOAA
> administrator."
> 
> "One of the most fascinating things is that we see
> that changes have 
> already happened or are happening now in more
> climate variables than 
> just temperature," says Hegerl. "For instance, there
> have been observed 
> changes in ocean temperatures, global rainfall and
> in circulation of the 
> atmosphere. We now are beginning to understand that
> these changes occur 
> at least partly in response to anthropogenic
> influences on climate. This 
> allows us to better evaluate model simulations,
> which do simulate 
> aspects of these changes, although not as
> successfully as they simulate 
> changes in temperature."
> 
>
http://www.ddj.com/blog/portal/archives/2007/02/global_warming.html
> 
> or
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/3yma5v
> 
> #---
> 
> Regards,
> 
> LelandJ
> 
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Re: [OT] Dubya trying to save Washington, DC from being flooded

[Ed Leafe]

On Feb 7, 2007, at 2:49 PM, David Crooks wrote:

> And there is distrust in Washington. I am surprised, frankly, at the
> amount of distrust that exists in this town. And I'm sorry it's the
> case, and I'll work hard to try to elevate it.
> -- Truer unintended words have never been spoken, Interview with Juan
> Williams (NPR), Jan. 29, 2007

He has done more to elevate distrust than anyone in recent history.

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Re: [OT] Dubya trying to save Washington, DC from being flooded

[Michael Madigan]

Spoken like a true koolaid drinker.



--- Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Feb 7, 2007, at 2:49 PM, David Crooks wrote:
> 
> > And there is distrust in Washington. I am
> surprised, frankly, at the
> > amount of distrust that exists in this town. And
> I'm sorry it's the
> > case, and I'll work hard to try to elevate it.
> > -- Truer unintended words have never been spoken,
> Interview with Juan
> > Williams (NPR), Jan. 29, 2007
> 
>   He has done more to elevate distrust than anyone in
> recent history.
> 
> -- Ed Leafe
> -- http://leafe.com
> -- http://dabodev.com
> 
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[OT] We do use books that call Jews 'apes' admits head of Islamic school

[Helio W.]

http://tinyurl.com/yv4rav

" We do use books that call Jews 'apes' admits head of Islamic school

The principal of an Islamic school has admitted that it uses textbooks
which describe Jews as "apes" and Christians as "pigs" and has refused
to withdraw them.

Dr Sumaya Alyusuf confirmed that the offending books exist after
former teacher Colin Cook, 57, alleged that children as young as five
are taught from racist materials at the King Fahd Academy in Acton.
(...)"


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Re: [OT] We do use books that call Jews 'apes' admits head of Islamic school

[Michael Madigan]

There are some people on this mail list that have said
basically the same thing.



--- "Helio W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://tinyurl.com/yv4rav
> 
> " We do use books that call Jews 'apes' admits head
> of Islamic school
> 
> The principal of an Islamic school has admitted that
> it uses textbooks
> which describe Jews as "apes" and Christians as
> "pigs" and has refused
> to withdraw them.
> 
> Dr Sumaya Alyusuf confirmed that the offending books
> exist after
> former teacher Colin Cook, 57, alleged that children
> as young as five
> are taught from racist materials at the King Fahd
> Academy in Acton.
> (...)"
> 
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Re: [OT] Global Warming Studies Demand More Computer Power

[Leland F. Jackson, CPA]

In everything there is both good and evil, pros and cons, advantages and 
disadvantages, and good judgment is required to arrive at the correct 
decision in achieving proper balance between these opposites.  Have you 
had your judgment check lately? 

Regards,

LelandJ


Michael Madigan wrote:
> Of course using computers adds to CO2 emmissions. 
> They should do the calculations by hand to save the
> Earth.
>
>
>
>
> --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>   
>> Computers are being used to help better understand
>> the causes and 
>> effects of Global Warming, and the role that human
>> interferance with the 
>> planets envrionmental system causes or contributes
>> to global warming.
>>
>> #
>>
>>
>> *Global Warming Studies Demand More Compute
>> Power*
>>
>> With the release of the Intergovernmental Panel on
>> Climate Change 
>>  4th Assessment Report, even
>> skeptics are 
>> acknowledging that global warming is heating up.
>>
>> According to the 4th Assessment Report 
>>
>> 
> ,
>   
>> we 
>> can expect rising oceans, warmer oceans, sea ice
>> reduction, warmer 
>> winters, and the like, all thanks to human-derived
>> greenhouse gases that 
>> are playing havoc with our climate. The 2007 report
>> will be presented in 
>> four phases during the year, with the first phase
>> focusing on physical 
>> evidence of global change
>>
>> "We are now seeing, not merely predicting, effects
>> of greenhouse warming 
>> on a scale and in ways that were not observable
>> before," said Gabriele 
>> Hegerl, associate research professor at Duke
>> University's Nicholas 
>> School of the Environment and Earth Sciences 
>> , who also
>> co-authored a summary of the 
>> report for policymakers. Hegerl, a coordinating lead
>> author of the IPCC 
>> report's chapter on "Understanding and Attributing
>> Climate Change," goes 
>> on to say that "We've studied improved observations
>> from land, sea and 
>> space, as well as better temperature reconstructions
>> covering the last 
>> 1,000 years. Understanding the observations is
>> really what this all is 
>> about. For instance, looking at the patterns of
>> change in 20th-century 
>> temperatures, we can now distinguish between changes
>> caused by 
>> greenhouse gases, man-made aerosols, variability in
>> solar radiation and 
>> major volcanic eruptions."
>>
>> As you might expect all of this obervation and
>> modeling requires 
>> computing power -- and lots of it. To that end, the
>> National Oceanic and 
>> Atmospheric Administration 
>> (NOAA) has activated 
>> its newest weather and climate supercomputers,
>> increasing the 
>> computational might used for climate and weather
>> forecasts by 320 
>> percent. The IBM machines process 14 trillion
>> calculations per second at 
>> maximum performance and ingest more than 240 million
>> global observations 
>> daily. These computers also will process data from
>> Constellation 
>> Observing System for Meteorology, Ionosphere and
>> Climate 
>>  (COSMIC) satellites, a
>> series of six 
>> satellites launched in 2006.
>>
>> "Better physics, better models, better data, and
>> faster and more 
>> powerful supercomputing are the foundation for
>> making better weather and 
>> climate forecasts," said Conrad C. Lautenbacher,
>> undersecretary of 
>> commerce for oceans and atmosphere and NOAA
>> administrator."
>>
>> "One of the most fascinating things is that we see
>> that changes have 
>> already happened or are happening now in more
>> climate variables than 
>> just temperature," says Hegerl. "For instance, there
>> have been observed 
>> changes in ocean temperatures, global rainfall and
>> in circulation of the 
>> atmosphere. We now are beginning to understand that
>> these changes occur 
>> at least partly in response to anthropogenic
>> influences on climate. This 
>> allows us to better evaluate model simulations,
>> which do simulate 
>> aspects of these changes, although not as
>> successfully as they simulate 
>> changes in temperature."
>>
>>
>> 
> http://www.ddj.com/blog/portal/archives/2007/02/global_warming.html
>   
>> or
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/3yma5v
>>
>> #---
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> LelandJ
>>
>>
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Re: [OT] Global Warming Studies Demand More Computer Power

[Michael Madigan]

Well some people say we shouldn't have killed so many
Iraqis even though the net lives we saved are in the
hundreds of thousands compared to how many would have
died under Saddam.

So, it stands to reason we shouldn't be using computer
modeling to save the Earth because such computer
modeling damages the Earth.

Understand now?




--- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> In everything there is both good and evil, pros and
> cons, advantages and 
> disadvantages, and good judgment is required to
> arrive at the correct 
> decision in achieving proper balance between these
> opposites.  Have you 
> had your judgment check lately? 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> LelandJ
> 
> 
> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > Of course using computers adds to CO2 emmissions. 
> > They should do the calculations by hand to save
> the
> > Earth.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Computers are being used to help better
> understand
> >> the causes and 
> >> effects of Global Warming, and the role that
> human
> >> interferance with the 
> >> planets envrionmental system causes or
> contributes
> >> to global warming.
> >>
> >> #
> >>
> >>
> >> *Global Warming Studies Demand More Compute
> >> Power*
> >>
> >> With the release of the Intergovernmental Panel
> on
> >> Climate Change 
> >>  4th Assessment Report, even
> >> skeptics are 
> >> acknowledging that global warming is heating up.
> >>
> >> According to the 4th Assessment Report 
> >>
> >> 
> >
>
,
> >   
> >> we 
> >> can expect rising oceans, warmer oceans, sea ice
> >> reduction, warmer 
> >> winters, and the like, all thanks to
> human-derived
> >> greenhouse gases that 
> >> are playing havoc with our climate. The 2007
> report
> >> will be presented in 
> >> four phases during the year, with the first phase
> >> focusing on physical 
> >> evidence of global change
> >>
> >> "We are now seeing, not merely predicting,
> effects
> >> of greenhouse warming 
> >> on a scale and in ways that were not observable
> >> before," said Gabriele 
> >> Hegerl, associate research professor at Duke
> >> University's Nicholas 
> >> School of the Environment and Earth Sciences 
> >> , who also
> >> co-authored a summary of the 
> >> report for policymakers. Hegerl, a coordinating
> lead
> >> author of the IPCC 
> >> report's chapter on "Understanding and
> Attributing
> >> Climate Change," goes 
> >> on to say that "We've studied improved
> observations
> >> from land, sea and 
> >> space, as well as better temperature
> reconstructions
> >> covering the last 
> >> 1,000 years. Understanding the observations is
> >> really what this all is 
> >> about. For instance, looking at the patterns of
> >> change in 20th-century 
> >> temperatures, we can now distinguish between
> changes
> >> caused by 
> >> greenhouse gases, man-made aerosols, variability
> in
> >> solar radiation and 
> >> major volcanic eruptions."
> >>
> >> As you might expect all of this obervation and
> >> modeling requires 
> >> computing power -- and lots of it. To that end,
> the
> >> National Oceanic and 
> >> Atmospheric Administration 
> >> (NOAA) has activated 
> >> its newest weather and climate supercomputers,
> >> increasing the 
> >> computational might used for climate and weather
> >> forecasts by 320 
> >> percent. The IBM machines process 14 trillion
> >> calculations per second at 
> >> maximum performance and ingest more than 240
> million
> >> global observations 
> >> daily. These computers also will process data
> from
> >> Constellation 
> >> Observing System for Meteorology, Ionosphere and
> >> Climate 
> >>  (COSMIC)
> satellites, a
> >> series of six 
> >> satellites launched in 2006.
> >>
> >> "Better physics, better models, better data, and
> >> faster and more 
> >> powerful supercomputing are the foundation for
> >> making better weather and 
> >> climate forecasts," said Conrad C. Lautenbacher,
> >> undersecretary of 
> >> commerce for oceans and atmosphere and NOAA
> >> administrator."
> >>
> >> "One of the most fascinating things is that we
> see
> >> that changes have 
> >> already happened or are happening now in more
> >> climate variables than 
> >> just temperature," says Hegerl. "For instance,
> there
> >> have been observed 
> >> changes in ocean temperatures, global rainfall
> and
> >> in circulation of the 
> >> atmosphere. We now are beginning to understand
> that
> >> these changes occur 
> >> at least partly in response to anthropogenic
> >> influences on climate. This 
> >> allows us to better evaluate model simulations,
> >> which do simulate 
> >> aspects of these changes, although not as
> >> successfully as they simulate 
> >> changes in temperature."
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >
>
http://www.ddj.

Re: [OT] Global Warming Studies Demand More Computer Power

[Robert Calco]

Which, coincidentally, requires more government funding.

Funny how that works.

- Bob

On Feb 7, 2007, at 2:45 PM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:

> Computers are being used to help better understand the causes and
> effects of Global Warming, and the role that human interferance  
> with the
> planets envrionmental system causes or contributes to global warming.
>
> #
>
>
> *Global Warming Studies Demand More Compute Power*
>
> With the release of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
>  4th Assessment Report, even skeptics are
> acknowledging that global warming is heating up.
>
> According to the 4th Assessment Report
> , we
> can expect rising oceans, warmer oceans, sea ice reduction, warmer
> winters, and the like, all thanks to human-derived greenhouse gases  
> that
> are playing havoc with our climate. The 2007 report will be  
> presented in
> four phases during the year, with the first phase focusing on physical
> evidence of global change
>
> "We are now seeing, not merely predicting, effects of greenhouse  
> warming
> on a scale and in ways that were not observable before," said Gabriele
> Hegerl, associate research professor at Duke University's Nicholas
> School of the Environment and Earth Sciences
> , who also co-authored a summary of the
> report for policymakers. Hegerl, a coordinating lead author of the  
> IPCC
> report's chapter on "Understanding and Attributing Climate Change,"  
> goes
> on to say that "We've studied improved observations from land, sea and
> space, as well as better temperature reconstructions covering the last
> 1,000 years. Understanding the observations is really what this all is
> about. For instance, looking at the patterns of change in 20th-century
> temperatures, we can now distinguish between changes caused by
> greenhouse gases, man-made aerosols, variability in solar radiation  
> and
> major volcanic eruptions."
>
> As you might expect all of this obervation and modeling requires
> computing power -- and lots of it. To that end, the National  
> Oceanic and
> Atmospheric Administration  (NOAA) has activated
> its newest weather and climate supercomputers, increasing the
> computational might used for climate and weather forecasts by 320
> percent. The IBM machines process 14 trillion calculations per  
> second at
> maximum performance and ingest more than 240 million global  
> observations
> daily. These computers also will process data from Constellation
> Observing System for Meteorology, Ionosphere and Climate
>  (COSMIC) satellites, a series of six
> satellites launched in 2006.
>
> "Better physics, better models, better data, and faster and more
> powerful supercomputing are the foundation for making better  
> weather and
> climate forecasts," said Conrad C. Lautenbacher, undersecretary of
> commerce for oceans and atmosphere and NOAA administrator."
>
> "One of the most fascinating things is that we see that changes have
> already happened or are happening now in more climate variables than
> just temperature," says Hegerl. "For instance, there have been  
> observed
> changes in ocean temperatures, global rainfall and in circulation  
> of the
> atmosphere. We now are beginning to understand that these changes  
> occur
> at least partly in response to anthropogenic influences on climate.  
> This
> allows us to better evaluate model simulations, which do simulate
> aspects of these changes, although not as successfully as they  
> simulate
> changes in temperature."
>
> http://www.ddj.com/blog/portal/archives/2007/02/global_warming.html
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3yma5v
>
> #---
>
> Regards,
>
> LelandJ
>
>
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Re: [OT] Global Warming Studies Demand More Computer Power

[Leland F. Jackson, CPA]

Absolutely.  When you see your psychiatrist to check out your judgment, 
also have him check out your reasoning.  Your believe that the original 
war with Iraq, and subsequent civil struggle for power between waring 
secretarian tribal fashion over the vacuum left when Saddam was removed 
as leader of Iraq, which the Bush Administration now calls "the war", or 
the violence in response to the effort of the US to impose it will on 
the Iraqi people through military force, which the Bush Administration 
also calls "the war",  resulted in a net saving of life is preposterous 
and indefeasible.

When the time comes that an evaluation can be performed to accurately 
measure the cost of the Iraq war in terms of loss of human life, loss of 
limb, loss of hope, loss of financial resources, loss of property, loss 
of a generation or two of mentally healthy Iraqi citizens, it will be 
staggering.  The cost due to psychological damage/harm to the Iraqi 
people, and all the children, will manifest itself for generations to come.

Regards,

LelandJ

Michael Madigan wrote:
> Well some people say we shouldn't have killed so many
> Iraqis even though the net lives we saved are in the
> hundreds of thousands compared to how many would have
> died under Saddam.
>
> So, it stands to reason we shouldn't be using computer
> modeling to save the Earth because such computer
> modeling damages the Earth.
>
> Understand now?
>
>
>
>
> --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>   
>> In everything there is both good and evil, pros and
>> cons, advantages and 
>> disadvantages, and good judgment is required to
>> arrive at the correct 
>> decision in achieving proper balance between these
>> opposites.  Have you 
>> had your judgment check lately? 
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> LelandJ
>>
>>
>> Michael Madigan wrote:
>> 
>>> Of course using computers adds to CO2 emmissions. 
>>> They should do the calculations by hand to save
>>>   
>> the
>> 
>>> Earth.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA"
>>>   
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
 Computers are being used to help better
 
>> understand
>> 
 the causes and 
 effects of Global Warming, and the role that
 
>> human
>> 
 interferance with the 
 planets envrionmental system causes or
 
>> contributes
>> 
 to global warming.

 #


 *Global Warming Studies Demand More Compute
 Power*

 With the release of the Intergovernmental Panel
 
>> on
>> 
 Climate Change 
  4th Assessment Report, even
 skeptics are 
 acknowledging that global warming is heating up.

 According to the 4th Assessment Report 

 
 
> ,
>   
>>>   
>>>   
 we 
 can expect rising oceans, warmer oceans, sea ice
 reduction, warmer 
 winters, and the like, all thanks to
 
>> human-derived
>> 
 greenhouse gases that 
 are playing havoc with our climate. The 2007
 
>> report
>> 
 will be presented in 
 four phases during the year, with the first phase
 focusing on physical 
 evidence of global change

 "We are now seeing, not merely predicting,
 
>> effects
>> 
 of greenhouse warming 
 on a scale and in ways that were not observable
 before," said Gabriele 
 Hegerl, associate research professor at Duke
 University's Nicholas 
 School of the Environment and Earth Sciences 
 , who also
 co-authored a summary of the 
 report for policymakers. Hegerl, a coordinating
 
>> lead
>> 
 author of the IPCC 
 report's chapter on "Understanding and
 
>> Attributing
>> 
 Climate Change," goes 
 on to say that "We've studied improved
 
>> observations
>> 
 from land, sea and 
 space, as well as better temperature
 
>> reconstructions
>> 
 covering the last 
 1,000 years. Understanding the observations is
 really what this all is 
 about. For instance, looking at the patterns of
 change in 20th-century 
 temperatures, we can now distinguish between
 
>> changes
>> 
 caused by 
 greenhouse gases, man-made aerosols, variability
 
>> in
>> 
 solar radiation and 
 major volcanic eruptions."

 As you might expect all of this obervation and
 modeling requires 
 computing power -- and lots of it. To that end,
 
>> the
>> 
 National Oceanic and 
 Atmospheric Administration 
 (NOAA) has activated 
 its newest weather and climate supercomputers,
 increasing the 
 computational might used for

Re: [OT] Global Warming Studies Demand More Computer Power

[Michael Madigan]

My position is absolutely defeasible.

UN says 150,000 Iraqis have died since 2003

Estimates that Saddam was torturing and killing
100,000 to 500,000 Iraqis a year.

Net saved lives a minimum of 250,000 Iraquis.


--- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Absolutely.  When you see your psychiatrist to check
> out your judgment, 
> also have him check out your reasoning.  Your
> believe that the original 
> war with Iraq, and subsequent civil struggle for
> power between waring 
> secretarian tribal fashion over the vacuum left when
> Saddam was removed 
> as leader of Iraq, which the Bush Administration now
> calls "the war", or 
> the violence in response to the effort of the US to
> impose it will on 
> the Iraqi people through military force, which the
> Bush Administration 
> also calls "the war",  resulted in a net saving of
> life is preposterous 
> and indefeasible.
> 
> When the time comes that an evaluation can be
> performed to accurately 
> measure the cost of the Iraq war in terms of loss of
> human life, loss of 
> limb, loss of hope, loss of financial resources,
> loss of property, loss 
> of a generation or two of mentally healthy Iraqi
> citizens, it will be 
> staggering.  The cost due to psychological
> damage/harm to the Iraqi 
> people, and all the children, will manifest itself
> for generations to come.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> LelandJ
> 
> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > Well some people say we shouldn't have killed so
> many
> > Iraqis even though the net lives we saved are in
> the
> > hundreds of thousands compared to how many would
> have
> > died under Saddam.
> >
> > So, it stands to reason we shouldn't be using
> computer
> > modeling to save the Earth because such computer
> > modeling damages the Earth.
> >
> > Understand now?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> In everything there is both good and evil, pros
> and
> >> cons, advantages and 
> >> disadvantages, and good judgment is required to
> >> arrive at the correct 
> >> decision in achieving proper balance between
> these
> >> opposites.  Have you 
> >> had your judgment check lately? 
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> LelandJ
> >>
> >>
> >> Michael Madigan wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Of course using computers adds to CO2
> emmissions. 
> >>> They should do the calculations by hand to save
> >>>   
> >> the
> >> 
> >>> Earth.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA"
> >>>   
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>   
>  Computers are being used to help better
>  
> >> understand
> >> 
>  the causes and 
>  effects of Global Warming, and the role that
>  
> >> human
> >> 
>  interferance with the 
>  planets envrionmental system causes or
>  
> >> contributes
> >> 
>  to global warming.
> 
>  #
> 
> 
>  *Global Warming Studies Demand More Compute
>  Power*
> 
>  With the release of the Intergovernmental Panel
>  
> >> on
> >> 
>  Climate Change 
>   4th Assessment Report,
> even
>  skeptics are 
>  acknowledging that global warming is heating
> up.
> 
>  According to the 4th Assessment Report 
> 
>  
>  
> >
>
,
> >   
> >>>   
> >>>   
>  we 
>  can expect rising oceans, warmer oceans, sea
> ice
>  reduction, warmer 
>  winters, and the like, all thanks to
>  
> >> human-derived
> >> 
>  greenhouse gases that 
>  are playing havoc with our climate. The 2007
>  
> >> report
> >> 
>  will be presented in 
>  four phases during the year, with the first
> phase
>  focusing on physical 
>  evidence of global change
> 
>  "We are now seeing, not merely predicting,
>  
> >> effects
> >> 
>  of greenhouse warming 
>  on a scale and in ways that were not observable
>  before," said Gabriele 
>  Hegerl, associate research professor at Duke
>  University's Nicholas 
>  School of the Environment and Earth Sciences 
>  , who also
>  co-authored a summary of the 
>  report for policymakers. Hegerl, a coordinating
>  
> >> lead
> >> 
>  author of the IPCC 
>  report's chapter on "Understanding and
>  
> >> Attributing
> >> 
>  Climate Change," goes 
>  on to say that "We've studied improved
>  
> >> observations
> >> 
>  from land, sea and 
>  space, as well as better temperature
>  
> >> reconstructions
> >> 
>  covering the last 
>  1,000 years. Understanding the observations is
>  really what this all is 
>  about. For instance, looking at the patt

[OT] Disagree on Global Warming? Lose your job!

[Michael Madigan]

http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_020607_news_taylor_title.59f5d04a.html

Lisa Nowak Gear!  Lust in Space, Nowak? YES WACK!, Astronauts Tool Kit
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Re: [OT] Astronaut charged with kidnap attempt

[Jean Laeremans]

On 2/7/07, Paul Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey, Mike's geography is just fine, check out his 'English' flags:
>
> http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/1688929

Wrong as usual
The flag of the United Kingdom - known as the Union Flag or Union Jack
- is made up from the flags of Scotland, England (the Cross of Saint
George) and Ireland (the Cross of Saint Patrick).

A+
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Re: [OT] Global Warming Studies Demand More Computer Power

[Leland F. Jackson, CPA]

Your numbers are based on feeble projection; forecast as to what might 
have happen if Iraq had been left undistributed.  As any statistician 
can tell you, projection, or forecast,  are notoriously unreliable.  
Also,  the further you try to forecast into the future, the greater 
become the uncertainty of the results.

Your numbers come from projections over a four year period which you try 
to measure what what might have happen should Saddam been left in 
power.  Further, you projections are easily manipulated toward your 
biases, both conscience and subconscience, and I doubt you could even 
tell me the underlying assumption and statistical method used to compute 
your projected number of deaths.

My figures will come from recorded history as to what really happen, how 
many people really died, their names, ages, occupations, etc, what the 
psychological ramification of this unnecessary war will be to both 
America and Iraq, the real financial cost to Iraq, America, and the rest 
of the world because of the unnecessary war with Iraq, which has become 
an American fiasco and made joke our of America to the rest of the world.

Regards,

LelandJ

Michael Madigan wrote:
> My position is absolutely defeasible.
>
> UN says 150,000 Iraqis have died since 2003
>
> Estimates that Saddam was torturing and killing
> 100,000 to 500,000 Iraqis a year.
>
> Net saved lives a minimum of 250,000 Iraquis.
>
>
> --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>   
>> Absolutely.  When you see your psychiatrist to check
>> out your judgment, 
>> also have him check out your reasoning.  Your
>> believe that the original 
>> war with Iraq, and subsequent civil struggle for
>> power between waring 
>> secretarian tribal fashion over the vacuum left when
>> Saddam was removed 
>> as leader of Iraq, which the Bush Administration now
>> calls "the war", or 
>> the violence in response to the effort of the US to
>> impose it will on 
>> the Iraqi people through military force, which the
>> Bush Administration 
>> also calls "the war",  resulted in a net saving of
>> life is preposterous 
>> and indefeasible.
>>
>> When the time comes that an evaluation can be
>> performed to accurately 
>> measure the cost of the Iraq war in terms of loss of
>> human life, loss of 
>> limb, loss of hope, loss of financial resources,
>> loss of property, loss 
>> of a generation or two of mentally healthy Iraqi
>> citizens, it will be 
>> staggering.  The cost due to psychological
>> damage/harm to the Iraqi 
>> people, and all the children, will manifest itself
>> for generations to come.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> LelandJ
>>
>> Michael Madigan wrote:
>> 
>>> Well some people say we shouldn't have killed so
>>>   
>> many
>> 
>>> Iraqis even though the net lives we saved are in
>>>   
>> the
>> 
>>> hundreds of thousands compared to how many would
>>>   
>> have
>> 
>>> died under Saddam.
>>>
>>> So, it stands to reason we shouldn't be using
>>>   
>> computer
>> 
>>> modeling to save the Earth because such computer
>>> modeling damages the Earth.
>>>
>>> Understand now?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA"
>>>   
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
 In everything there is both good and evil, pros
 
>> and
>> 
 cons, advantages and 
 disadvantages, and good judgment is required to
 arrive at the correct 
 decision in achieving proper balance between
 
>> these
>> 
 opposites.  Have you 
 had your judgment check lately? 

 Regards,

 LelandJ


 Michael Madigan wrote:
 
 
> Of course using computers adds to CO2
>   
>> emmissions. 
>> 
> They should do the calculations by hand to save
>   
>   
 the
 
 
> Earth.
>
>
>
>
> --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA"
>   
>   
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 
 
> wrote:
>
>   
>   
>   
>> Computers are being used to help better
>> 
>> 
 understand
 
 
>> the causes and 
>> effects of Global Warming, and the role that
>> 
>> 
 human
 
 
>> interferance with the 
>> planets envrionmental system causes or
>> 
>> 
 contributes
 
 
>> to global warming.
>>
>> #
>>
>>
>> *Global Warming Studies Demand More Compute
>> Power*
>>
>> With the release of the Intergovernmental Panel
>> 
>> 
 on
 
 
>> Climate Change 
>>  4th Assessment Report,
>> 
>> even
>> 
>> skeptics are 
>> acknowledging that global warming is he

Re: [OT] Astronaut charged with kidnap attempt

[Michael Madigan]

Yeah, who cares? LMAO

Buy a t-shirt you cheap Belgian!  

They ship to the third-world.  I think it ships US
Mail, then when it gets to Belgium they stick it on a
yak.




--- Jean Laeremans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On 2/7/07, Paul Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Hey, Mike's geography is just fine, check out his
> 'English' flags:
> >
> > http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/1688929
> 
> Wrong as usual
> The flag of the United Kingdom - known as the Union
> Flag or Union Jack
> - is made up from the flags of Scotland, England
> (the Cross of Saint
> George) and Ireland (the Cross of Saint Patrick).
> 
> A+
> jml
> 
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Re: [OT] Astronaut charged with kidnap attempt

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Ed Leafe wrote:
> On Feb 7, 2007, at 2:01 AM, Adam Buckland wrote:
> 
>> Think Madagin.
> 
>   Oxymoron?
> 

Nope, just a moron

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Re: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?

[Ricardo Aráoz]

john harvey wrote:
> NRA isn't an "arms dealing" group. WE promote gun safety and protection of
> the family.

But you also say that guns don't kill people, that people kill people.
Isn't that right?

> 
> John
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Ricardo Aráoz
> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 11:57 AM
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: Re: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?
> 
> john harvey wrote:
>> I would blame them all. 
>>
> 
> So you would blame the arms dealers. That would suggest you are against
> the NRA. Is that so?
> 
>> John
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>> Of Ricardo Aráoz
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:40 AM
>> To: ProFox Email List
>> Subject: Re: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?
>>
>> I think Evo Morales (elected president of Bolivia for the ignorant half
>> of the list) would passionately agree with this, he's probably
>> considering affiliation to the NRA. He reasons that if you consider that
>> guns don't kill people, that people kill people, then all of you would
>> agree that drugs don't kill people, the person who introduces the drug
>> into the body kills them (it would mostly be suicide). So why blame the
>> producer of coke leaves, or the chemist who obtains cocaine, or the poor
>> arms dealer... sorry, drug dealer who sells them. We should only blame
>> the person who uses or administers drugs (doctors beware!).
>>
>>
>> Michael Madigan wrote:
>>> If he hates the bearing of arms, he's really going to
>>> hate the anti-abortion amendment.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Robert Calco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
 On Feb 6, 2007, at 1:28 PM, Ed Leafe wrote:

> On Feb 6, 2007, at 1:23 PM, David Crooks wrote:
>
>> How can anyone prove that???  Did they have the
 same thermometers 200
>> years ago that are in use today???  There is no
 way!!!
>>> Some global warming.
>> I agree. I was cold in Albany, NY 200 years ago
 and guess what?   
>> It is
>> still cold in Albany, NY. LOL!
>   I love how some people only read half of
 something. They see a term
> such as "global warming" and completely miss the
 'global' part of it.
> Sort of like the same brilliant minds who read the
 2nd Amendment as
> guaranteeing the unfettered right to keep and bear
 arms, completely
> missing the "well-regulated militia" part.
 Or how some people read the whole part of something,
 entirely out of  
 context.

 The purpose of the 'well-regulated militia' was to
 protect the people  
 from an oppressive government, and was not intended
 to establish a  
 particular "well-regulated militia", as some seem
 curiously to argue.  
 Rather, by making the right to keep and bear arms
 universal to all  
 citizens in the Bill of Rights, and not just to some
 special  
 "militia" class, this formulation allowed for the
 people to self- 
 organize into "well-regulated" militia as needed to
 defend themselves  
 from tyranny. In general, our founders were into
 "self- 
 regulation" (particularly of the small-r
 "republican" variety), not  
 nanny government.

 The enhancements to the federal power and
 consolidation under a  
 single federal government under the Constitution was
 an economic  
 necessity. Nevertheless, the founders still saw fit
 to guarantee each  
 state in the union a "republican" form of
 government, and each  
 citizen a right to keep and bear arms. They hardly
 envisioned the  
 federal government confiscating guns from everyone
 except the police  
 or army. Maybe one or two of them thought that was a
 good idea (after  
 all, they did discuss the various alternatives, and
 even my hero  
 Hamilton had a brain fart about re-establishing
 monarchy), but the  
 consensus was to state explicitly a right to keep an
 bear arms to  
 all, and the reason sited was not just so the
 government could  
 regulate some once and future national guard or
 whatever, but rather  
 because an oppressive government could only be
 countered by a people  
 armed to defend themselves.

 Context Ed is just as important as the precise
 wording of a phrase.

 - Bob

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Re: [NF] OS Recalls, was: The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

[Chet Gardiner]

Adam Smith on "the invisible hand":

But there are many misconceptions about the invisible hand, starting 
with the belief that Smith himself was a absolute believer in it. In 
fact, he was not. Smith actually viewed merchants with great suspicion:

/"People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and 
diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, 
or in some contrivance to raise prices."

/Another misconception is that the invisible hand is a form of 
individualism. It would be hard to call the actions of a baker who 
spends all day baking bread for strangers "individualism." A more 
accurate word is /exchange,/ and it represents a balance between 
individualism and collectivism, even if that exchange is ultimately 
self-interested. True individualism is taking from the group without 
giving anything back; true collectivism is giving to the group without 
getting anything back. Seen in this light, the exchange inherent in the 
invisible hand should deserve the full and enthusiastic endorsement of 
liberals.

Unfortunately, today's conservatives have corrupted the meaning of 
Smith's term. They use it to suggest that the pursuit of self-interest 
in the economy will always (or almost always) result in group benefit, 
and that individuals should feel free to pursue it.





Ted Roche wrote:

>>Don't get me wrong. I believe businesses need to move along to bigger and 
>>better hardware and
>>operating systems in general, but I also know it is not always practical or 
>>appropriate.
>>
>>
>
>
>Isn't that something we should allow the invisible hand of the free
>market to drive? If customers believe there are alternatives that
>provide a lower overall cost of ownership by allowing software to be
>used over a longer lifetime, won't the customers make the decision to
>support those products with better ROI? And the responsive vendors
>succeed in the marketplace?
>
>Returning to your earlier analogy, is this like the government
>mandating seat belts, or more like them requiring a 5-year, 100,000
>mile warranty?
>
>* If Windows keeps getting slower and slower in shipping new versions,
>won't that provide the longevity you want? It would be interesting to
>plot version against version and predict when Windows.NEXT will ship.
>It was five years between XP and Vista, three years between XP and
>2000. I'm not sure how XPSP2 and 2003 could fit in there. How much
>longer should they go?
>
>  
>


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Re: Buffer overruns & stuff

[Derek Kalweit]

> The source is a VFP cursor created by querying an MSSQL db. My app reads
> from & parses the data in the cursor into native VFP tables stored
> locally. There's no user interface. Crash about every 15min.

If it's that re-creatable, then it's time to start adding trace code,
IMO-- to find where the problem is happening. I use STRTOFILE for
this:

STRTOFILE("Some meaningful string" + CHR(13) + CHR(10), "c:\out.log", .T.)

This will append a line to the c:\out.log file-- change your strings
to something useful to know where in the code it's happening(put it in
key spots right before something you suspect to be the potential
problem-- it can be very high level in the code, especially at first).

You can also write a more robust tracing mechanism, which I plan to do
for my next projects. Basically, you call the function throughout your
code, and the function queries a setting to see if tracing is 'on',
and potentially at what level, and if so outputs it to the text file
with a date/time stamp, etc. I've used it in C++ programs as a
debugging mechanism and it's been extremely valuable. I turn it on
with a registry setting. One of the key things I like to do is add
start:functionname() and end:functionname() things to the beginning
and ending of functions/methods when I write my code initially-- this
lets me know very early on what overall function/method the crash is
occuring in...


-- 
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Re: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?

[Ricardo Aráoz]

john harvey wrote:
> Gee, I wish I had me some of them "wits". How would a fella go about getting
> some of them?
> 

You people! You always think everything can be bought. Well bad news,
you just get what was given to you (e.g. Madagain got none, maybe I got
his share hahaha).

> John
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Ricardo Aráoz
> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 11:55 AM
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: Re: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?
> 
> john harvey wrote:
>> Not for a living, but I've got a few. Do you need one?
>>
> 
> No, thanks. Actually my WITS have kept me alive for a half century. I
> think I'll trust my brain (over a gun) for the next half.
> 
>> John
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>> Of Ricardo Aráoz
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:56 AM
>> To: ProFox Email List
>> Subject: Re: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?
>>
>> john harvey wrote:
>>> They have kept me alive for a long time!
>>>
>> So you sell guns for a living?
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf
>>> Of Jean Laeremans
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 4:39 PM
>>> To: ProFox Email List
>>> Subject: Re: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?
>>>
>>> Ok to sum it up then: guns contribute to global warming ?
>>> They sure don't contribute to safety
>>>
>>> A+
>>> jml
>>>
>>>
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Re: [OT] Astronaut charged with kidnap attempt

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Michael Madigan wrote:
> Do you talk funny?  Then you're english.
> 

Just pure Madagain. French are cowards, brits talk funny, Muslims are
savages only jews are up to his standards.

> 
> --- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Once again geography not your strong point is it
>> Michael:
>>
>> I'm not English
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> Michael Madigan
>> Sent: 07 February 2007 08:30
>> To: ProFox Email List
>> Subject: RE: [OT] Astronaut charged with kidnap
>> attempt
>>
>> In England they're called chavs, and Adam is king
>> chav
>>
>>
>> --- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Think Madagin.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> Leafe
>>>
>>>
>>> It's an USA thing. 'White trash' is considered
>> the
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>>> think GWB is a  
>>> great President, support any sort of war that is
>>> proposed, and vote  
>>> straight-line Republican. They actually think that
>>> NASCAR racing is a  
>>> "sport" and that people who drive such cars are
>>> "athletes". They  
>>> disdain education and educated people, and think
>>> that Budweiser is  
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>>>
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Re: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Michael Madigan wrote:
> You open up your skull and take half your brains OUT.
> 

I might be missing some kind of repub joke here but...

wit 1  (wt)
n.
1. The natural ability to perceive and understand; intelligence.
2.
a. Keenness and quickness of perception or discernment; ingenuity. Often
used in the plural: living by one's wits.
b. wits Sound mental faculties; sanity: scared out of my wits.
3.
a. The ability to perceive and express in an ingeniously humorous manner
the relationship between seemingly incongruous or disparate things.
b. One noted for this ability, especially one skilled in repartee.
c. A person of exceptional intelligence.


> 
> --- john harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Gee, I wish I had me some of them "wits". How would
>> a fella go about getting
>> some of them?
>>
>> John
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>> Of Ricardo Aráoz
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 11:55 AM
>> To: ProFox Email List
>> Subject: Re: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard
>> Facts?
>>
>> john harvey wrote:
>>> Not for a living, but I've got a few. Do you need
>> one?
>> No, thanks. Actually my WITS have kept me alive for
>> a half century. I
>> think I'll trust my brain (over a gun) for the next
>> half.
>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>>> Of Ricardo Aráoz
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:56 AM
>>> To: ProFox Email List
>>> Subject: Re: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard
>> Facts?
>>> john harvey wrote:
 They have kept me alive for a long time!

>>> So you sell guns for a living?
>>>
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf
 Of Jean Laeremans
 Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 4:39 PM
 To: ProFox Email List
 Subject: Re: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard
>> Facts?
 Ok to sum it up then: guns contribute to global
>> warming ?
 They sure don't contribute to safety

 A+
 jml


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Re: [OT] Astronaut charged with kidnap attempt

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Michael Madigan wrote:
> I'm kind of like Dr. Dolittle, I can talk to the
> animals.
> 

Yeah, I thought your blabber sounded chimpanzee like, but at the time I
guessed it might be your arteries were clogged.


> 
> --- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Adam Buckland wrote:
>>> Once again geography not your strong point is it
>> Michael:
>> I'm curious, what IS his strong point?
>> Does he even have a point?
>>
>>
>>> I'm not English
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
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>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> Michael Madigan
>>> Sent: 07 February 2007 08:30
>>> To: ProFox Email List
>>> Subject: RE: [OT] Astronaut charged with kidnap
>> attempt
>>> In England they're called chavs, and Adam is king
>> chav
>>>
>>> --- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
 Think Madagin.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed
 Leafe


It's an USA thing. 'White trash' is considered
>> the
 highest form of  
 the American Ideal. They are invariably
>> Christian,
 think GWB is a  
 great President, support any sort of war that is
 proposed, and vote  
 straight-line Republican. They actually think
>> that
 NASCAR racing is a  
 "sport" and that people who drive such cars are
 "athletes". They  
 disdain education and educated people, and think
 that Budweiser is  
 actually what beer is supposed to taste like.

 -- Ed Leafe
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 -- http://dabodev.com


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Re: [OT] Astronaut charged with kidnap attempt

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Paul Hill wrote:
> Hey, Mike's geography is just fine, check out his 'English' flags:
> 
> http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/1688929
> 
> :-)
> 

ROTFL

> On 2/7/07, Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Once again geography not your strong point is it Michael:
>>
>> I'm not English
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael 
>> Madigan
>> Sent: 07 February 2007 08:30
>> To: ProFox Email List
>> Subject: RE: [OT] Astronaut charged with kidnap attempt
>>
>> In England they're called chavs, and Adam is king chav
>>
>>
>> --- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Think Madagin.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed
>>> Leafe
>>>
>>>
>>>   It's an USA thing. 'White trash' is considered the
>>> highest form of
>>> the American Ideal. They are invariably Christian,
>>> think GWB is a
>>> great President, support any sort of war that is
>>> proposed, and vote
>>> straight-line Republican. They actually think that
>>> NASCAR racing is a
>>> "sport" and that people who drive such cars are
>>> "athletes". They
>>> disdain education and educated people, and think
>>> that Budweiser is
>>> actually what beer is supposed to taste like.
>>>
>>> -- Ed Leafe
>>> -- http://leafe.com
>>> -- http://dabodev.com
>>>
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Re: [OT] We do use books that call Jews 'apes' admits head of Islamic school

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Michael Madigan wrote:
> There are some people on this mail list that have said
> basically the same thing.
> 

Yes, they've said the french are cowards, the japs are homos, the brits
speak funny.
> 
> 
> --- "Helio W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> http://tinyurl.com/yv4rav
>>
>> " We do use books that call Jews 'apes' admits head
>> of Islamic school
>>
>> The principal of an Islamic school has admitted that
>> it uses textbooks
>> which describe Jews as "apes" and Christians as
>> "pigs" and has refused
>> to withdraw them.
>>
>> Dr Sumaya Alyusuf confirmed that the offending books
>> exist after
>> former teacher Colin Cook, 57, alleged that children
>> as young as five
>> are taught from racist materials at the King Fahd
>> Academy in Acton.
>> (...)"
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Re: [NF] Energy from a hot rock

[Chet Gardiner]

"There are just two major catches. First, about $800 million in research 
and development is needed over the next decade to make the drilling 
technology cost-effective. Second, the Department of Energy is trying to 
kill the program by ending its funding."

Yep, the bushies would rather spend the $800M for 3 1/2 DAYS of their 
dirty little war...


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>Steam from the ground is a tad safer then nuclear cesspools don't you think?
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Re: [OT] Astronaut charged with kidnap attempt

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Michael Madigan wrote:
> Yeah, who cares? LMAO
> 
> Buy a t-shirt you cheap Belgian!  
> 

Oh! Belgians are cheap. That's a new Madagain definition. You're beating
the Muslim teacher here Mike.

> They ship to the third-world.  I think it ships US
> Mail, then when it gets to Belgium they stick it on a
> yak.
> 

So now you're confusing Belgium with Tibet. hahaha

Anyway, I think it's good that you try to avoid poverty selling whatever
you can for some pennies. It fills me with... pity?

> 
> 
> 
> --- Jean Laeremans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 2/7/07, Paul Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>> Hey, Mike's geography is just fine, check out his
>> 'English' flags:
>>> http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/1688929
>> Wrong as usual
>> The flag of the United Kingdom - known as the Union
>> Flag or Union Jack
>> - is made up from the flags of Scotland, England
>> (the Cross of Saint
>> George) and Ireland (the Cross of Saint Patrick).
>>
>> A+
>> jml
>>
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Re: [NF] Web code safety, was Storing code in tables

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh wrote:
> On Feb 6, 2007, at 11:43 AM, Fletcher Johnson wrote:
> 
>> Certainly, if the code is in a table, it is
>> subject to modification (potentially malicious),
> 
> Thank you for your thoughts, Fletcher.
> 
> Regardless of my application construction, this is something that I  
> am wondering about. Maybe somebody can help me understand. It may  
> seem hopelessly naive, but from my reading, it seems like:
> 
> 1. If your data are off of the web tree, and
> 2. You have robust protection against SQL injection
> 
> Your data should be protected. Am I wrong? How else would anyone get  
> to your data?
> 
> Similarly, if you don't have any SQL in code that is in your Web tree  
> that should be *relatively* safe. All data in user-interface is  
> called data object functions, and those are off of the web tree, too.
> 
> Again, am I wrong, or is this understanding too simplistic?
> 
> Ken
> 
>

You might also have a field with some kind of coded checksum, so your
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Re: [OT] Astronaut charged with kidnap attempt

[Michael Madigan]

Argentinians are drug smuglers.


--- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > Do you talk funny?  Then you're english.
> > 
> 
> Just pure Madagain. French are cowards, brits talk
> funny, Muslims are
> savages only jews are up to his standards.
> 
> > 
> > --- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > 
> >> Once again geography not your strong point is it
> >> Michael:
> >>
> >> I'm not English
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
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> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> >> Michael Madigan
> >> Sent: 07 February 2007 08:30
> >> To: ProFox Email List
> >> Subject: RE: [OT] Astronaut charged with kidnap
> >> attempt
> >>
> >> In England they're called chavs, and Adam is king
> >> chav
> >>
> >>
> >> --- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Think Madagin.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
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> >>> NASCAR racing is a  
> >>> "sport" and that people who drive such cars are
> >>> "athletes". They  
> >>> disdain education and educated people, and think
> >>> that Budweiser is  
> >>> actually what beer is supposed to taste like.
> >>>
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[OT] compassionate conservatism rides again

[Chet Gardiner]

Ah, why do we hate the neo-cons?


  Bush slashes aid to poor to boost Iraq war chest



http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2006617,00.html

That's why...


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Re: [OT] We do use books that call Jews 'apes' admits head of Islamic school

[Michael Madigan]

OK, the French aren't cowards?


--- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > There are some people on this mail list that have
> said
> > basically the same thing.
> > 
> 
> Yes, they've said the french are cowards, the japs
> are homos, the brits
> speak funny.
> > 
> > 
> > --- "Helio W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >> http://tinyurl.com/yv4rav
> >>
> >> " We do use books that call Jews 'apes' admits
> head
> >> of Islamic school
> >>
> >> The principal of an Islamic school has admitted
> that
> >> it uses textbooks
> >> which describe Jews as "apes" and Christians as
> >> "pigs" and has refused
> >> to withdraw them.
> >>
> >> Dr Sumaya Alyusuf confirmed that the offending
> books
> >> exist after
> >> former teacher Colin Cook, 57, alleged that
> children
> >> as young as five
> >> are taught from racist materials at the King Fahd
> >> Academy in Acton.
> >> (...)"
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Re: [OT] Astronaut charged with kidnap attempt

[Michael Madigan]

Use some of your drug money and buy some t-shirts.


--- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > Yeah, who cares? LMAO
> > 
> > Buy a t-shirt you cheap Belgian!  
> > 
> 
> Oh! Belgians are cheap. That's a new Madagain
> definition. You're beating
> the Muslim teacher here Mike.
> 
> > They ship to the third-world.  I think it ships US
> > Mail, then when it gets to Belgium they stick it
> on a
> > yak.
> > 
> 
> So now you're confusing Belgium with Tibet. hahaha
> 
> Anyway, I think it's good that you try to avoid
> poverty selling whatever
> you can for some pennies. It fills me with...
> pity?
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- Jean Laeremans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> On 2/7/07, Paul Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >>> Hey, Mike's geography is just fine, check out
> his
> >> 'English' flags:
> >>> http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/1688929
> >> Wrong as usual
> >> The flag of the United Kingdom - known as the
> Union
> >> Flag or Union Jack
> >> - is made up from the flags of Scotland, England
> >> (the Cross of Saint
> >> George) and Ireland (the Cross of Saint Patrick).
> >>
> >> A+
> >> jml
> >>
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Re: Problem accessing Access 2K table from VFP9SP1

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Andy Davies wrote:
>> My God He's back!
>> Andy, hope you enjoyed your "vacation".
>> Dave Crozier
> 
> Come on Dave - 7 weeks doing absolutely naff all on the palm-fringed
> beaches of Goa - how could *anyone* enjoy that?
> Especially with beer now costing 60p a pint in the bars, and a meal for two
> up to nearly a tenner by the time you've had a few drinks!
> 
> 

I thought you Brits were using euros by now (I'm certain you are decimal
now). Are you still talking pounds?

> Andrew Davies  MBCS CITP
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Re: [OT] compassionate conservatism rides again

[Michael Madigan]

They're not cuts, they're smaller increases.


--- Chet Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ah, why do we hate the neo-cons?
> 
> 
>   Bush slashes aid to poor to boost Iraq war chest
> 
> 
> 
>
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2006617,00.html
> 
> That's why...
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Re: Problem accessing Access 2K table from VFP9SP1

[Matthew Jarvis]

MB Software Solutions wrote:
> (This is probably an easy one for most of you...I hope!)
> 
> I'm trying to simply read data from Access tables.  I verify that i 
> establish a connection to the MDB, yet the SQLEXEC fails, and when I 
> look at AERROR() it seems to be looking for the MDB file in the current 
> directory rather than what's specified in the connection string.
> 
> Here's my code:
> i = SQLSTRINGCONNECT("Driver={Microsoft Access Driver 
> (*.mdb)};Dbq=C:\downloads\timeclock\data\arx_active.mdb;Uid=Admin;Pwd=;")
> WAIT WINDOW i
> WAIT WINDOW SQLEXEC(i,"select Firstname,MI,Lastname from 
> arx_active.Employees")
> 
> What am I doing wrong?  Thx...
> --Mike
> 

Longshot - do you have a local setting that might be overriding your 
code i.e. something in ODBC/System or something like that?

p.s. The SQL code looks fine...

Let me try it with my own Access tables and see what happens...

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Re: [OT] Astronaut charged with kidnap attempt

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Michael Madigan wrote:
> Argentinians are drug smuglers.
> 

Of course, but remember, drugs don't kill people.

> 
> --- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Michael Madigan wrote:
>>> Do you talk funny?  Then you're english.
>>>
>> Just pure Madagain. French are cowards, brits talk
>> funny, Muslims are
>> savages only jews are up to his standards.
>>
>>> --- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
 Once again geography not your strong point is it
 Michael:

 I'm not English


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 Michael Madigan
 Sent: 07 February 2007 08:30
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 Subject: RE: [OT] Astronaut charged with kidnap
 attempt

 In England they're called chavs, and Adam is king
 chav


 --- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Think Madagin.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> Ed
> Leafe
>
>
>   It's an USA thing. 'White trash' is considered
 the
> highest form of  
> the American Ideal. They are invariably
>> Christian,
> think GWB is a  
> great President, support any sort of war that is
> proposed, and vote  
> straight-line Republican. They actually think
>> that
> NASCAR racing is a  
> "sport" and that people who drive such cars are
> "athletes". They  
> disdain education and educated people, and think
> that Budweiser is  
> actually what beer is supposed to taste like.
>
> -- Ed Leafe
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> -- http://dabodev.com
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Re: [OT] compassionate conservatism rides again

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Chet Gardiner wrote:
> Ah, why do we hate the neo-cons?
> 
> 

I thought it was because they are such easy targets.


>   Bush slashes aid to poor to boost Iraq war chest
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2006617,00.html
> 
> That's why...
> 
> 
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Re: [OT] We do use books that call Jews 'apes' admits head of Islamic school

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Michael Madigan wrote:
> OK, the French aren't cowards?
> 

Don't know. Do jews have big noses and are misers?


> 
> --- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Michael Madigan wrote:
>>> There are some people on this mail list that have
>> said
>>> basically the same thing.
>>>
>> Yes, they've said the french are cowards, the japs
>> are homos, the brits
>> speak funny.
>>>
>>> --- "Helio W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
 http://tinyurl.com/yv4rav

 " We do use books that call Jews 'apes' admits
>> head
 of Islamic school

 The principal of an Islamic school has admitted
>> that
 it uses textbooks
 which describe Jews as "apes" and Christians as
 "pigs" and has refused
 to withdraw them.

 Dr Sumaya Alyusuf confirmed that the offending
>> books
 exist after
 former teacher Colin Cook, 57, alleged that
>> children
 as young as five
 are taught from racist materials at the King Fahd
 Academy in Acton.
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Re: [OT] Astronaut charged with kidnap attempt

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Michael Madigan wrote:
> Use some of your drug money and buy some t-shirts.
> 

Yes old man, I know you need the money. It's just that I have no spare
cents in my pocket right now. Next time.

> 
> --- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Michael Madigan wrote:
>>> Yeah, who cares? LMAO
>>>
>>> Buy a t-shirt you cheap Belgian!  
>>>
>> Oh! Belgians are cheap. That's a new Madagain
>> definition. You're beating
>> the Muslim teacher here Mike.
>>
>>> They ship to the third-world.  I think it ships US
>>> Mail, then when it gets to Belgium they stick it
>> on a
>>> yak.
>>>
>> So now you're confusing Belgium with Tibet. hahaha
>>
>> Anyway, I think it's good that you try to avoid
>> poverty selling whatever
>> you can for some pennies. It fills me with...
>> pity?
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Jean Laeremans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
 On 2/7/07, Paul Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote:
> Hey, Mike's geography is just fine, check out
>> his
 'English' flags:
> http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/1688929
 Wrong as usual
 The flag of the United Kingdom - known as the
>> Union
 Flag or Union Jack
 - is made up from the flags of Scotland, England
 (the Cross of Saint
 George) and Ireland (the Cross of Saint Patrick).

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Re: [NF] Web code safety, was Storing code in tables

[Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh]

On Feb 7, 2007, at 9:22 AM, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:

> You might also have a field with some kind of coded checksum, so your
> program would notice if the code has been tampered with.

Thanks -- good idea.

Ken

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RE: error during upsizing

[Stephen the Cook]

Judith Barer <> wrote:
> I am trying to upsize a table to sql server 2005 express using the
> vfp 8.0 upsizing wizard.  I am getting the following error 
> 
> Error #1234 convertvfplogicaltosqlserverbut(0) subscript is outside
> defined range.   The table is fairly simple with 3 fields. One integer
> field, and two char fields
> 
> The indexes are all regular indexes.
> 
> Does anybody have any idea what the problem might be.  I have upsized
> other tables from this database without any problem. 

Is the int column an identity column by chance?

If that doesn't fly you could probably do it with access or make a view in
VFP against the SQL table.   


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Re: [OT] Astronaut charged with kidnap attempt

[Michael Madigan]

Stop spending your money on male prostitutes and buy
my t-shirts.

--- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > Use some of your drug money and buy some t-shirts.
> > 
> 
> Yes old man, I know you need the money. It's just
> that I have no spare
> cents in my pocket right now. Next time.
> 
> > 
> > --- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >> Michael Madigan wrote:
> >>> Yeah, who cares? LMAO
> >>>
> >>> Buy a t-shirt you cheap Belgian!  
> >>>
> >> Oh! Belgians are cheap. That's a new Madagain
> >> definition. You're beating
> >> the Muslim teacher here Mike.
> >>
> >>> They ship to the third-world.  I think it ships
> US
> >>> Mail, then when it gets to Belgium they stick it
> >> on a
> >>> yak.
> >>>
> >> So now you're confusing Belgium with Tibet.
> hahaha
> >>
> >> Anyway, I think it's good that you try to avoid
> >> poverty selling whatever
> >> you can for some pennies. It fills me with...
> >> pity?
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- Jean Laeremans
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  On 2/7/07, Paul Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  wrote:
> > Hey, Mike's geography is just fine, check out
> >> his
>  'English' flags:
> > http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/1688929
>  Wrong as usual
>  The flag of the United Kingdom - known as the
> >> Union
>  Flag or Union Jack
>  - is made up from the flags of Scotland,
> England
>  (the Cross of Saint
>  George) and Ireland (the Cross of Saint
> Patrick).
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[OT] Levin crushes Olbermann.

[Michael Madigan]

Giant homo Olbermann gets skewered.

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/02/06/audio-levin-crushes-olbermann/


Keith gets low ratings in bed. LMAO

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10092006/gossip/pagesix/pagesix.htm

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RE: [OT] Dubya trying to save Washington, DC from being flooded

[Stephen the Cook]

Michael Madigan <> wrote:
> Spoken like a true koolaid drinker.

"W" and Carter two low points in the American Presidency.  


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RE: [OT] We do use books that call Jews 'apes' admits head of Islamic school

[john harvey]

I thought the japs spoke funny, the French were homos and 

John

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Michael Madigan wrote:
> There are some people on this mail list that have said
> basically the same thing.
> 

Yes, they've said the french are cowards, the japs are homos, the brits
speak funny.
> 
> 
> --- "Helio W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> http://tinyurl.com/yv4rav
>>
>> " We do use books that call Jews 'apes' admits head
>> of Islamic school
>>
>> The principal of an Islamic school has admitted that
>> it uses textbooks
>> which describe Jews as "apes" and Christians as
>> "pigs" and has refused
>> to withdraw them.
>>
>> Dr Sumaya Alyusuf confirmed that the offending books
>> exist after
>> former teacher Colin Cook, 57, alleged that children
>> as young as five
>> are taught from racist materials at the King Fahd
>> Academy in Acton.
>> (...)"
>>
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RE: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?

[john harvey]

Yep, you are missing the joke. It's like this... oh never mind!

John

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Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 2:54 PM
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Michael Madigan wrote:
> You open up your skull and take half your brains OUT.
> 

I might be missing some kind of repub joke here but...

wit 1  (wt)
n.
1. The natural ability to perceive and understand; intelligence.
2.
a. Keenness and quickness of perception or discernment; ingenuity. Often
used in the plural: living by one's wits.
b. wits Sound mental faculties; sanity: scared out of my wits.
3.
a. The ability to perceive and express in an ingeniously humorous manner
the relationship between seemingly incongruous or disparate things.
b. One noted for this ability, especially one skilled in repartee.
c. A person of exceptional intelligence.


> 
> --- john harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Gee, I wish I had me some of them "wits". How would
>> a fella go about getting
>> some of them?
>>
>> John
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>> Of Ricardo Aráoz
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 11:55 AM
>> To: ProFox Email List
>> Subject: Re: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard
>> Facts?
>>
>> john harvey wrote:
>>> Not for a living, but I've got a few. Do you need
>> one?
>> No, thanks. Actually my WITS have kept me alive for
>> a half century. I
>> think I'll trust my brain (over a gun) for the next
>> half.
>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>>> Of Ricardo Aráoz
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:56 AM
>>> To: ProFox Email List
>>> Subject: Re: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard
>> Facts?
>>> john harvey wrote:
 They have kept me alive for a long time!

>>> So you sell guns for a living?
>>>
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf
 Of Jean Laeremans
 Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 4:39 PM
 To: ProFox Email List
 Subject: Re: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard
>> Facts?
 Ok to sum it up then: guns contribute to global
>> warming ?
 They sure don't contribute to safety

 A+
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RE: [OT] Dubya trying to save Washington, DC from being flooded

[Michael Madigan]

H

Carter - record bad economy

Bush - record good economy

Carter - surrenders to Iran

Bush - removes Saddam Hussein


Carter - record high interest rates

bush - record low interest rates


Yep, they're really similar.
--- Stephen the Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Michael Madigan <> wrote:
> > Spoken like a true koolaid drinker.
> 
> "W" and Carter two low points in the American
> Presidency.  
> 
> 
> Stephen Russell
> DBA / .Net Developer
> 
> Memphis TN 38115
> 901.246-0159
> 
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Re: [OT] We do use books that call Jews 'apes' admits head of Islamic school

[Ricardo Aráoz]

john harvey wrote:
> I thought the japs spoke funny, the French were homos and 
> 

:-) Maybe. He uses so many stupid generalizations that I may have mixed
them up.

> John
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Of Ricardo Aráoz
> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 3:01 PM
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: Re: [OT] We do use books that call Jews 'apes' admits head of
> Islamic school
> 
> Michael Madigan wrote:
>> There are some people on this mail list that have said
>> basically the same thing.
>>
> 
> Yes, they've said the french are cowards, the japs are homos, the brits
> speak funny.
>>
>> --- "Helio W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/yv4rav
>>>
>>> " We do use books that call Jews 'apes' admits head
>>> of Islamic school
>>>
>>> The principal of an Islamic school has admitted that
>>> it uses textbooks
>>> which describe Jews as "apes" and Christians as
>>> "pigs" and has refused
>>> to withdraw them.
>>>
>>> Dr Sumaya Alyusuf confirmed that the offending books
>>> exist after
>>> former teacher Colin Cook, 57, alleged that children
>>> as young as five
>>> are taught from racist materials at the King Fahd
>>> Academy in Acton.
>>> (...)"
>>>
>>


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Re: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?

[Ricardo Aráoz]

john harvey wrote:
> Yep, you are missing the joke. It's like this... oh never mind!
> 

Sorry I don't get your word jokes, you see, english is my second
language and what you speak in USA would be my third. Maybe you can try
and be 'witty' in spanish?

> John
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Of Ricardo Aráoz
> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 2:54 PM
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: Re: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?
> 
> Michael Madigan wrote:
>> You open up your skull and take half your brains OUT.
>>
> 
> I might be missing some kind of repub joke here but...
> 
> wit 1  (wt)
> n.
> 1. The natural ability to perceive and understand; intelligence.
> 2.
> a. Keenness and quickness of perception or discernment; ingenuity. Often
> used in the plural: living by one's wits.
> b. wits Sound mental faculties; sanity: scared out of my wits.
> 3.
> a. The ability to perceive and express in an ingeniously humorous manner
> the relationship between seemingly incongruous or disparate things.
> b. One noted for this ability, especially one skilled in repartee.
> c. A person of exceptional intelligence.
> 
> 
>> --- john harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Gee, I wish I had me some of them "wits". How would
>>> a fella go about getting
>>> some of them?
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>>> Of Ricardo Aráoz
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 11:55 AM
>>> To: ProFox Email List
>>> Subject: Re: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard
>>> Facts?
>>>
>>> john harvey wrote:
 Not for a living, but I've got a few. Do you need
>>> one?
>>> No, thanks. Actually my WITS have kept me alive for
>>> a half century. I
>>> think I'll trust my brain (over a gun) for the next
>>> half.
>>>
 John

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Ricardo Aráoz
 Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:56 AM
 To: ProFox Email List
 Subject: Re: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard
>>> Facts?
 john harvey wrote:
> They have kept me alive for a long time!
>
 So you sell guns for a living?

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>> Behalf
> Of Jean Laeremans
> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 4:39 PM
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: Re: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard
>>> Facts?
> Ok to sum it up then: guns contribute to global
>>> warming ?
> They sure don't contribute to safety
>
> A+
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Re: [OT] We do use books that call Jews 'apes' admits head of Islamic school

[Michael Madigan]

And, the Argentinians are both Homo AND speak funny,
as well as being drug traffickers.



--- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> john harvey wrote:
> > I thought the japs spoke funny, the French were
> homos and 
> > 
> 
> :-) Maybe. He uses so many stupid generalizations
> that I may have mixed
> them up.
> 
> > John
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> > Of Ricardo Aráoz
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 3:01 PM
> > To: ProFox Email List
> > Subject: Re: [OT] We do use books that call Jews
> 'apes' admits head of
> > Islamic school
> > 
> > Michael Madigan wrote:
> >> There are some people on this mail list that have
> said
> >> basically the same thing.
> >>
> > 
> > Yes, they've said the french are cowards, the japs
> are homos, the brits
> > speak funny.
> >>
> >> --- "Helio W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> http://tinyurl.com/yv4rav
> >>>
> >>> " We do use books that call Jews 'apes' admits
> head
> >>> of Islamic school
> >>>
> >>> The principal of an Islamic school has admitted
> that
> >>> it uses textbooks
> >>> which describe Jews as "apes" and Christians as
> >>> "pigs" and has refused
> >>> to withdraw them.
> >>>
> >>> Dr Sumaya Alyusuf confirmed that the offending
> books
> >>> exist after
> >>> former teacher Colin Cook, 57, alleged that
> children
> >>> as young as five
> >>> are taught from racist materials at the King
> Fahd
> >>> Academy in Acton.
> >>> (...)"
> >>>
> >>
> 
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