RE: VFP(9) to ACT!
Sytze, If you are using ACT V6 up to ACT 2000 then the databases were certainly dbf files but generated using Codebase. In certain circumstances I think Codebase removed the 254 field limit in a table hence becoming non standard and I think they actually name tables as .dat files if I'm not mistaken. Also the fields are simply numbered such as Field_1, Field_2 etc as they use an internal data dictionary for user defined fields - yet another problem! The indexes certainly are non standard so you can't do anything with them which could cause problems when finding information as a lot of it is pseudo encrypted. I only did data transfer one way ACT into VFP and did this using the export feature which is really quirky. However if you want to go the other way (which is what I assume) then you may need to go onto the Codebase site and see if they have an SDK. Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sytze de Boer Sent: 22 August 2007 06:09 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: VFP(9) to ACT! I need to run a VFP app and connect to a ACT! database to sync client information. Is there anyone here who is familiar with this program ? At one time, I thought ACT! was based on dbf formats and I opened my big mouth and announced at a meeting that I could access the data.. Please help me out of the hole ! Sytze [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP(9) to ACT!
Hi Dave, thanks for that It is in fact ACT! Version 9 and I think data is in a PAD file It seems a hopeless task Version 9 won't even import it's own ACT! Version 6 or 7 files Sytze On 8/22/07, Dave Crozier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sytze, If you are using ACT V6 up to ACT 2000 then the databases were certainly dbf files but generated using Codebase. In certain circumstances I think Codebase removed the 254 field limit in a table hence becoming non standard and I think they actually name tables as .dat files if I'm not mistaken. Also the fields are simply numbered such as Field_1, Field_2 etc as they use an internal data dictionary for user defined fields - yet another problem! The indexes certainly are non standard so you can't do anything with them which could cause problems when finding information as a lot of it is pseudo encrypted. I only did data transfer one way ACT into VFP and did this using the export feature which is really quirky. However if you want to go the other way (which is what I assume) then you may need to go onto the Codebase site and see if they have an SDK. Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sytze de Boer Sent: 22 August 2007 06:09 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: VFP(9) to ACT! I need to run a VFP app and connect to a ACT! database to sync client information. Is there anyone here who is familiar with this program ? At one time, I thought ACT! was based on dbf formats and I opened my big mouth and announced at a meeting that I could access the data.. Please help me out of the hole ! Sytze [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: FormSet ???
Thanks Paul. I was using the if you cant say something nice, don’t say anything (nearly anything) method :) Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Newton Sent: 22 August 2007 02:21 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FormSet ??? Allen Congratulations on the most most succinct reply ever posted in response to a non-trivial question. Your economy of words elevates brevity to the level of terseness. g Paul Newton No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/965 - Release Date: 21/08/2007 16:02 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [JOB] Outsourced to Mexico
Depends on the size of the catch :) Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen How much does a .net developer get in Mexico? -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/965 - Release Date: 21/08/2007 16:02 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FormSet ???
I use tabs - just as old hat but not as complicated as formsets g Andrew Davies MBCS CITP - AndyD 8-)# ** Manchester City Council supports Smokefree England - 1 July 2007 This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any queries. ** ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP(9) to ACT!
Sytze There is an SDK which will enable what you want. However you have to be in the Sage Dev program ($$) to get it ... Sytze de Boer wrote: Hi Dave, thanks for that It is in fact ACT! Version 9 and I think data is in a PAD file It seems a hopeless task Version 9 won't even import it's own ACT! Version 6 or 7 files -- Cheers Brian Abbott ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FormSet ???
Dave Crozier wrote: Paul, I don’t really grasp Al's feelings on the matter. Maybe you could précis it for others on the group. Dave Crozier Certainly Dave. Unfortunately, Allen's reply was not only brief to the point of terseness but terse to the point of ambiguity. The question was: is it a formset good or not ?. Like all OR questions, this is really two questions: Is it good ? Is it not good ? Allens respone of No could have referred to either of these questions, but not both, and, depending on which of the two questions he was answering, would convey opposite opinions. However there is the addded problem facing the reader when trying to tease the meaning out of the reply to a question framed in the negative. Consider the example Is is not good ? This can be answered, and the answers interpreted as follows YES, it is not good - meaning agreement with the assertion implied in the question, ie the response means it is not good NO, it is not good - meaning disagreement with the assertion implied in the question, ie the response means it is good. There are two lessons to be learned here: 1. Do not frame questions in the negative 2. Do not give either a YES or a NO answer in response to an OR question. HTH gdr Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: FormSet ???
Ok ok can I add one more letter to the reply. t :) Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Newton Is it good ? Is it not good ? Allens respone of No could have referred to either of these questions, but not both, and, depending on which of the two questions he was answering, would convey opposite opinions. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/965 - Release Date: 21/08/2007 16:02 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FormSet ???
On 8/22/07, Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok ok can I add one more letter to the reply. t :) Allen Please don't be too generous Al...and btw shouldn't it have been 'non' now ? A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: FormSet ???
Andy, We are not discussing your involvement with hallucinogenic substances in the 60's here BG Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Davies Sent: 22 August 2007 10:37 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: FormSet ??? I use tabs - just as old hat but not as complicated as formsets g Andrew Davies MBCS CITP - AndyD 8-)# ** Manchester City Council supports Smokefree England - 1 July 2007 This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any queries. ** [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Missing Parameters in Main.prg
On 8/22/07, Dave Crozier wrote: Gary, Scrap that, I meant: Program Param1||Param2||Param3 Just be careful you don't have spaces in the parameters and parse the string using Getwordcount()and Getwordnum() with the terminating parameter || I wasn't thinking in the first example! Dave Crozier Hi Dave, Essentially I'm trying to make my program generic, in the sense that the user can run it manually and select options on the main form. Or, they can run it scheduled in a DOS batch file, with options coming in via the parameter line. i.e. myprogram 123456879 /Option1 /Option2 ... /Optionn. Should I be doing this another way? Like with an *.ini file? It also seems strange that if I remove the / from in front of an Option, it comes into the program ok - first in Main.prg, then into the form via it's Init method. Cheers, Garry ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: FormSet ???
You just cant win can you :) Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Laeremans Please don't be too generous Al...and btw shouldn't it have been 'non' now ? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/965 - Release Date: 21/08/2007 16:02 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Missing Parameters in Main.prg
On 8/22/07, Gianni Turri wrote: Hi Garry, are you sure? I have created a shortcut to MyProgram.exe and added the following parameters: 12345678 /Option1 /Option2 The messagebox displays tcMarketId = 12345678, tcParam1 = /Option1, tcParam2 = /Option2, tcParam3 = .F. Gianni Hi Gianni, Thanks for your reply. I wouldn't be running the form from a shortcut - it could be scheduled to run at a certain time inside a batch file or at the command line. Cheers, Garry ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
codeplex
Hi foxgang Anyone used the codeplex stuff. There seems to be some neat bits there but very sadly lacking in how to use them. Im looking at two items. The desktop alerts and the outlook bar. Both look useful but there seems not much other than the downloads there. Also the forum, such as it is, is in disarray. There seems no order and all projects are thrown in the same bowl. Anyway first things first. Anyone tried the desktop alerts and have a quick start I can see. Allen No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/965 - Release Date: 21/08/2007 16:02 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [JOB] Outsourced to Mexico
MB Software Solutions wrote: With all due respecthow many gigs do you go through in a year on average? Man, you must really make the dough going through them like you do! This was a 3 month gig and the prior one was 3 and it went 5. This is .NET were we get the stuff completed. ;- Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 A good way to judge people is by observing how they treat those who can do them absolutely no good. ---Unknown http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/963 - Release Date: 8/20/2007 5:44 PM ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FormSet ???
Allen wrote: You just cant win can you :) We can, you can't ! Paul Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Laeremans Please don't be too generous Al...and btw shouldn't it have been 'non' now ? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/965 - Release Date: 21/08/2007 16:02 [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [JOB] Outsourced to Mexico
Pete Theisen wrote: On Tuesday 21 August 2007 14:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like a new Director and fiscal year means that all .NET development will be done in our Mexican facility from now on. Hi Stephen! How much does a .net developer get in Mexico? I don't know if they are going to continue on with .NET? From the grumblings at my last meeting they are going to stay with VB6 for patches and look to a java online application for the rewrite. They are going to release the ONLINE2 product in 2 or 4 weeks which was written in c for about 80% of the product. There is some java in there. Oh it's all based on AIX or Linux servers. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 A good way to judge people is by observing how they treat those who can do them absolutely no good. ---Unknown http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/963 - Release Date: 8/20/2007 5:44 PM ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [JOB] Outsourced to Mexico
On 8/22/07, Stephen the Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if they are going to continue on with .NET? hmmm This is .NET were we get the stuff completed. ;- A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Excel question
Ricardo Aráoz wrote: Jaime, it works! And it solves my problem. Only glitch is that the second 'CopyFromRecordset(loRs, 150) copy next 150' does not copy the next 150 but copies the first 150 records again. Not a problem, I can copy my chunks of records to a cursor and then do a cursor at a time (rs.Delete(150) does not work either). Anyway if you can see a more elegant solution I'll appreciate it. Thanks for your help. Here is my test code : --- loWorkBook = loExcel.WorkBooks.Add loWorkBook.ActiveSheet.name = 'PrimeraHoja' loWorkBook.Worksheets(PrimeraHoja).Range('a2').CopyFromRecordSet(lors,20) loWorkBook.WorkSheets.Add(, loWorkBook.ActiveSheet) loWorkBook.ActiveSheet.Name = 'SegundaHoja' loWorkBook.WorkSheets(SegundaHoja).Range('a2').CopyFromRecordSet(lors,20) loWorkBook.Application.Visible = .T. and the same first 20 records are copied in both pages. So I do : - go top in MyCursor lors = dbf2rs('MyCursor', 'Next 20') loWorkBook = loExcel.WorkBooks.Add loWorkBook.ActiveSheet.name = 'PrimeraHoja' loWorkBook.Worksheets(PrimeraHoja).Range('a2').CopyFromRecordSet(lors,20) go 21 in MyCursor lors = dbf2rs('MyCursor', 'Next 20') loWorkBook.WorkSheets.Add(, loWorkBook.ActiveSheet) loWorkBook.ActiveSheet.Name = 'SegundaHoja' loWorkBook.WorkSheets(SegundaHoja).Range('a2').CopyFromRecordSet(lors,20) loWorkBook.Application.Visible = .T. - Ricardo, This behavior is because the recordset is a client recordset, you can't delete records, and everytime you copy records it will start from the beginning. With a server recordset you can use the method I suggested of copy records by chunks, or delete them. You can create a server recordset converting your cursor to a temporary phisical table and next read it with ADO. I thing the solution you found is the best, create a recordset with the number of records you want to copy in every page. I just have 2 observations: If the recordset has the number of records you want, there's no need for the sencond parameter in copyfromrecordset method. The copy will be a bit faster if you set excel visible = .t. before copy the recordset. HTH Saludos, Jaime Vasquez ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Creating RSS Feed w/ VFP
Anyone written code to produce an rss feed in vfp? John ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RES: FormSet ???
Rick, Thank you for your reply. I have never used formsets and I think that I will never use. The third party software that I mentioned works very fine using formsets. But I think that this software has been developed since the first version of VFP. This can be the reason why they use Formsets. -- Aílsom F. Heringer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: ailsom.osklen Analista de Sistemas -- Osklen Departamento de Informática Rio de Janeiro - RJ BRASIL http://www.osklen.com.br 55 21 22198971 -Mensagem original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Rick Schummer Enviada em: terça-feira, 21 de agosto de 2007 18:18 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assunto: RE: FormSet ??? Aílsom, It is my understanding that formsets were originally included in VFP to help with the conversion of a FPD/FPW screen set. I believe the reputation of formsets being bad is related to the basis of why they were originally included in the product. The converter/transporter from a 2.6 app will use formsets and add layers and layers to the object hierarchy for a screen converted to a form. It also added a Read Compatibility special mode to the converted form. It really is horrible and a pain to deal with in the designer. The special Read Compatibility also makes the converted form behave differently than a normal VFP form (one such thing is the Themes property set to true will make objects disappear from the form). So are they inherently bad? Not really. Are they necessary? Not really. As others have said, it depends. I personally have not needed formsets for a few reasons. 1) I tested the converter when learning VFP 3 and it left a bad taste in my mouth. 2) I heard from gurus that formsets were evil and should not be used. 3) I did not want the overhead of the formset when running forms since they are not as flexible as my other techniques to coordinate forms. When I need multiple forms to work together I have the forms register with each other and have the object references to make them do what the users want them to do. A formset can help with the references via the thisformset object reference. One of the disadvantages of the formset is the dependency. If you include a form in a formset and wanted to later use the form independent of the formset you have to bust it out, or build another form. It is an all or nothing deal (or you could probably write code to make certain forms invisible if needed, but why when you can have them separate?). You also have a new reference to thisformset which is not something you normally see in code. So if you decide to bust out the form from a formset you have to eliminate these references. All this said, just because a company uses formsets does not mean the system is bad. There are some frameworks out there that use the formset for an application object. Some advantage was determined by the framework designer in this regard. They could have adopted this framework and might be using it because they have to flow with the framework, or recognize some advantage we may not have considered. All this means is I would not judge the software on this alone. I am sure great software was developed that included formsets. Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.swfox.net www.rickschummer.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Creating RSS Feed w/ VFP
On 8/22/07, John Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone written code to produce an rss feed in vfp? I did, and you were at the conference in 2004 in Kansas City when I presented it! http://www.tedroche.com/papers.php Code similar to what I used there went on to produce RSS feeds for FoxCentral and the Fox wiki until they took over their own generation. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Missing Parameters in Main.prg
- Original Message - From: Garry Bettle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:30:12 +0100 Subject: Re: Missing Parameters in Main.prg On 8/22/07, Gianni Turri wrote: Hi Garry, are you sure? I have created a shortcut to MyProgram.exe and added the following parameters: 12345678 /Option1 /Option2 The messagebox displays tcMarketId = 12345678, tcParam1 = /Option1, tcParam2 = /Option2, tcParam3 = .F. Gianni Hi Gianni, Thanks for your reply. I wouldn't be running the form from a shortcut - it could be scheduled to run at a certain time inside a batch file or at the command line. Cheers, Garry I have created a batch file named MyProgramCmd.bat with three way to pass parameters: MyProgram.exe 12345678 /Option1 /Option2 result: tcMarketId = 12345678, tcParam1 = /Option1, tcParam2 = /Option2, tcParam3 = .F. MyProgram.exe 12345678/Option1/Option2 result: tcMarketId = 12345678/Option1/Option2, tcParam1 = .F., tcParam2 = .F., tcParam3 = .F. MyProgram.exe 12345678 /Option1 /Option2 result: tcMarketId = 12345678 /Option1 /Option2, tcParam1 = .F., tcParam2 = .F., tcParam3 = .F. Gianni ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: codeplex
There seems to be some neat bits there but very sadly lacking in how to use them. Im looking at two items. The desktop alerts and the outlook bar. Both look useful but there seems not much other than the downloads there. Also the forum, such as it is, is in disarray. There seems no order and all projects are thrown in the same bowl. Sadly lacking, hardly Al. Both the Desktop Alert and the OutlookBar (and most of the other projects) have plenty of examples and the Desktop Alerts has a complete white paper detailing how to use them. The white paper is available on the VFPX site: http://www.codeplex.com/VFPX/Release/ProjectReleases.aspx?ReleaseId=3534 The OutlookBar download comes with a work-in-progress HTML Help file, and honestly is simple to use. http://www.codeplex.com/VFPX/Release/ProjectReleases.aspx?ReleaseId=815 Please note that all the work here is done on your behalf for free, based on the developers free time as are most open source projects. Better yet, if you think things are lacking, volunteer to help out. The entire site is a Wiki and like all Wikis, is completely open to your contributions. If you are so inclined, come out to Southwest Fox 2007. Several of the project authors and all the VFPX admins will be there. I am very confident that each is willing to chat about their projects and contributions, and are open to your ideas on how they can be improved. I am also giving a session on VFPX and show you how easy it is to implement several of the ongoing projects. Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.swfox.net www.rickschummer.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Internet Update
Hi, Has anyone implemented a Check for Updates kind of thing? Either one just to say Yes there is an update or one which also downloads and installs the update. Thanks Chris. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Palm Treo experiences (and Google Calendar)
Richard Kaye wrote: And let me add that browsing on any device with a screen this small (leaving aside the religious experience that is the iPhone) is essentially an exercise in frustration for anything other than the most basic needs. Richard, Dave, Couldja do me a quick, 5 minute favor? If you've got a gmail account, use your Treo to log in Google Calendar and see if it works? I've read varying accounts (mytreo.net, for example) on whether Blazer will render google calendar at all. We can get it to sort of show up on a Mobile Web 2.0 (Verizon Product) but it's highly limited. I understand that it won't be like viewing on a 19 flat screen g, but for reference and look up purposes, it should be usable. There's even a 'quick add' feature in google cal that allows you to type something like dinner w/ wife tomorrow 7 pm and it will translate this into the correct entry. Pretty nice, actually. But the Verizon folks are clueless (BIG surprise) and the research on the Web conflicts. I don't want to commit to $45/mo only to find out that GCal is still a work in progress. :) And I don't want to write my own web-based calendar app either. :( Well, I'd like to write it. I don't want to support it. BG Ken: We've been playing around with using multiple calendars and it looks like this might be a workable (although not optimal) solution right now. Essentially, each family member has their own calendar, and then you all share your calendars with each other. Then when you look at your calendar, you can see other folks events in different colors, but all on the same calendar. We've found one glitch with the google cal and SMS, but this feature is SO limited (you can only get your own calendar's events, even if you're sharing other people's cals, and you can only get the next 24 hrs of events) that we're not even going to do any more investigation on it. I have not looked at printing, because I'm a New Age, High Tech kind of guy. Me and my IBM 3270 phone, that is. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [JOB] Outsourced to Mexico
Jean Laeremans wrote: On 8/22/07, Stephen the Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if they are going to continue on with .NET? hmmm This is .NET were we get the stuff completed. ;- A+ jml lol! Talk about loading your own bullets into the gun that shoots you! ;-) -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FormSet ???
Rick Schummer wrote: I also don't like the fact that the VCXs get bloat, whereas the benefit of the SCXs is that they don't bloat. Both VCXs and SCX suffer from DBF bloat during normal development since both store properties and code in memos. Once you do a Rebuild ALL, VFP will PACK them as they are compiled. You can also PACK both with the Class Browser, or write a simple program to do the same. Or are you referring to some other kind of bloat? I thought that you had to occasionally pack the VCXs but not the SCXs. The VCXs kept the deleted records but the SCX purged them upon saving every time. I admit I didn't delve into this to prove it, but was going on recollections of the past. ??I like to use the VCXs to store objects that I'll use in the SCXs. ymmv. -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Internet Update
Chris Davis wrote: Hi, Has anyone implemented a Check for Updates kind of thing? Either one just to say Yes there is an update or one which also downloads and installs the update. Thanks Chris. Rick Strahl had a white paper on this several years ago. I would have loved to implement it, but never got around to doing it. http://www.west-wind.com/presentations/wwCodeUpdate/codeupdate.asp -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Internet Update
This is the same as I do. I would have liked to have found a way to beat the problem of updates to a running prog. However it works ok as the users start up it updates before running. Its probably better than several users all going to the web site for updates. This way only one needs to. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 August 2007 16:44 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Internet Update I do this by parsing the text in the download page. I look for a version marker and compare it to the running version. As for the program running issue, I avoid this by using a launcher. The download simply puts files in the Setup folder. On the next launch, files are updated from Setup. Henry No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/965 - Release Date: 21/08/2007 16:02 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Internet Update
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do this by parsing the text in the download page. I look for a version marker and compare it to the running version. As for the program running issue, I avoid this by using a launcher. The download simply puts files in the Setup folder. On the next launch, files are updated from Setup. The LOADER8 utility I posted on Ed's download's page operates similarly to Henry's description above. http://leafe.com/dls/vfp -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Internet Update
That's what I call positive reinforcement! Thanks, Allen and Michael for sharing your similar approaches. Henry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions Sent: 2007-08-22 10:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Internet Update [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do this by parsing the text in the download page. I look for a version marker and compare it to the running version. As for the program running issue, I avoid this by using a launcher. The download simply puts files in the Setup folder. On the next launch, files are updated from Setup. The LOADER8 utility I posted on Ed's download's page operates similarly to Henry's description above. http://leafe.com/dls/vfp -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Palm Treo experiences (and Google Calendar)
I just tried this and it works after a fashion. You have to have javascript installed/enabled in Blazer, which can be a bit of a feat in itself. The first time it went to the calendar page it downloaded at least 1/2MB of stuff before giving me an error page indicating that the browser couldn't load the page so you better have that unlimited data plan. I followed the first suggestion there to clear the cache and poked at it a bit and it did bring up my calendar. Finally, it was slow but I find most pages in Blazer to be slow in rendering, even if designed for WAP. Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: Richard, Dave, Couldja do me a quick, 5 minute favor? If you've got a gmail account, use your Treo to log in Google Calendar and see if it works? I've read varying accounts (mytreo.net, for example) on whether Blazer will render google calendar at all. We can get it to sort of show up on a Mobile Web 2.0 (Verizon Product) but it's highly limited -- Richard Kaye Vice President Artfact/RFC Systems Voice: 617.219.1038 Fax: 617.219.1001 For the fastest response time, please send your support queries to: Technical Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Australian Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] All Other Requests - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message has been checked for viruses before sending. - ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Palm Treo experiences (and Google Calendar)
On 8/22/07, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couldja do me a quick, 5 minute favor? If you've got a gmail account, use your Treo to log in Google Calendar and see if it works? Are you using the mobile version? It's supposed to be at: http://www.google.com/calendar/m according to: http://wapreview.com/blog/?p=320 Works for me. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP(9) to ACT!
Sytze de Boer wrote: I need to run a VFP app and connect to a ACT! database to sync client information. Is there anyone here who is familiar with this program ? At one time, I thought ACT! was based on dbf formats and I opened my big mouth and announced at a meeting that I could access the data.. Please help me out of the hole ! Sytze I believe ACT! uses dBase dbf tables, iirc. You might check Doug Hennig's Stonefield site, as I believe he's done integrations with ACT! -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Palm Treo experiences (and Google Calendar)
On 8/22/07, Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/22/07, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couldja do me a quick, 5 minute favor? If you've got a gmail account, use your Treo to log in Google Calendar and see if it works? Are you using the mobile version? It's supposed to be at: http://www.google.com/calendar/m Works sort of..no quick add though. (Nokia N95) A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Palm Treo experiences (and Google Calendar)
I have the quick add and it worked but there doesn't seem to be a way to edit/delete the event details after it is created. Jean Laeremans wrote: Works sort of..no quick add though. (Nokia N95) A+ jml -- Richard Kaye Vice President Artfact/RFC Systems Voice: 617.219.1038 Fax: 617.219.1001 For the fastest response time, please send your support queries to: Technical Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Australian Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] All Other Requests - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message has been checked for viruses before sending. - ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[Fwd: FoxPro]
From a Friend of mine... Jim Jim, Thanks again for your help. The client is ready to go so please let anyone know that this is urgent. If you have any questions, please give me a call. Location: Columbus, OH Start 8/27 or 9/4. LOA-2 Weeks+extensions Interviews Friday Client needs someone with Visual Foxpro to do development on an existing application that needs modifications. The Product Tracking application is written in the Microsoft Visual Foxpro 6 (VFP6) development tool. Both the backend database and the GUI are VFP6. The app uses all of the standard foxpro constructs such as forms, reports, code, etc. I believe the qualifications/experience you are looking for would be VFP6 knowledge as well as experience with the Windows API and/or MAPI to interface with a Microsoft Outlook client. *John Centolella* *Technical Recruiter* *Oxford International* **Information Technology Consulting Services** a division of* On Assignment* 1201 Jupiter Park Drive Jupiter, FL 33458 888.842.3225 ext 2831 tel 561.277.2831 direct 561.746.4755 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.oxfordcorp.com http://www.oxfordcorp.com/ Oxford Europe http://www.oxfordcorp.com/Europe *The Right Talent. Right Now.^® * This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/966 - Release Date: 8/22/2007 9:05 AM --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/mixed multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html text/plain (text body -- kept) --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Palm Treo experiences (and Google Calendar)
Richard Kaye wrote: I just tried this and it works after a fashion. You have to have javascript installed/enabled in Blazer, which can be a bit of a feat in That was one thing that people were arguing about on the mytreo forum. :) itself. The first time it went to the calendar page it downloaded at least 1/2MB of stuff before giving me an error page indicating that the browser couldn't load the page so you better have that unlimited data plan. I followed the first suggestion there to clear the cache and poked at it a bit and it did bring up my calendar. Finally, it was slow but I find most pages in Blazer to be slow in rendering, even if designed for WAP. So, to confirm, what you were looking at was the full google calendar, not the mobile version that Ted pointed out, right? Thanks for poking around. This is looking like a VERY expensive week for me g. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Internet Update
You could call your own WS where you have the app name and version # returned to the client. That is compared to what they are running and you could alert based on a diff. Then allow them to DL the update. At next start up your app looks for newer version in the \update folder and apply if it's available. Original Message Subject: Internet Update From: Chris Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, August 22, 2007 7:07 am To: profox@leafe.com Hi, Has anyone implemented a Check for Updates kind of thing? Either one just to say Yes there is an update or one which also downloads and installs the update. Thanks Chris. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox @leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- text/html (html body -- converted) --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Palm Treo experiences (and Google Calendar)
Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: That was one thing that people were arguing about on the mytreo forum. :) I think I tried to do this right after I first set up my google calendar and had given up on it. I must have gotten it right though because it does work. So, to confirm, what you were looking at was the full google calendar, not the mobile version that Ted pointed out, right? No. It's the mobile version. It's my understanding that there's something in there that recognizes you're browsing from a mobile device and it routes you to the WAP pages instead of the full blown calendar. It basically gives you a compressed display with the date on one line followed by one line for each event on that day. The events are linked to the event detail page where I now see the changes I just made to the description but I do not see the very exclusive guest list. -- Richard Kaye Vice President Artfact/RFC Systems Voice: 617.219.1038 Fax: 617.219.1001 For the fastest response time, please send your support queries to: Technical Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Australian Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] All Other Requests - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message has been checked for viruses before sending. - ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Internet Update
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could call your own WS where you have the app name and version # returned to the client. That is compared to what they are running and you could alert based on a diff. Then allow them to DL the update. At next start up your app looks for newer version in the \update folder and apply if it's available. Stephen, The values returned from the ws---is it in XML? Alternatives besides XML response? -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [JOB] Outsourced to Mexico
The mindset for this org is micro oriented. I say app and you could think a few forms. I got 4 business office apps completed in .NET that center around billing of customers via Credit Cards. I have an approval process that allows AR mgr to identify all new potential billing, the generation of all that billing, the batch process for that billing, The new sales contract that will kick off the generation, and the components configuration that are a part of the contract. All of this because the Banks stated that they had to change the way CC information was held. Original Message Subject: Re: [JOB] Outsourced to Mexico From: Jean Laeremans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, August 22, 2007 4:39 am To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com On 8/22/07, Stephen the Cook stephen.russell @adribbers.com wrote: I don't know if they are going to continue on with .NET? hmmm This is .NET were we get the stuff completed. ;- A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox @leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- text/html (html body -- converted) --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Internet Update
For VFP it's soap based so you are going to receive xml. Just parse it and be done with it. I'm not suggesting your delivery of updates this way! Just the check if you need it. Original Message Subject: Re: Internet Update From: MB Software Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, August 22, 2007 9:18 am To: profox@leafe.com stephen.russell @adribbers.com wrote: You could call your own WS where you have the app name and version # returned to the client. That is compared to what they are running and you could alert based on a diff. Then allow them to DL the update. At next start up your app looks for newer version in the \update folder and apply if it's available. Stephen, The values returned from the ws---is it in XML? Alternatives besides XML response? -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox @leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- text/html (html body -- converted) --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [JOB] Outsourced to Mexico
Original Message Subject: Re: [JOB] Outsourced to Mexico From: MB Software Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, August 22, 2007 7:34 am To: profox@leafe.com Jean Laeremans wrote: On 8/22/07, Stephen the Cook stephen.russell @adribbers.com wrote: I don't know if they are going to continue on with .NET? hmmm This is .NET were we get the stuff completed. ;- A+ jml lol! Talk about loading your own bullets into the gun that shoots you! ;-) I am being told today that they are only hiring VB6 / VB.NET developers for the Micico location. First hire count was 12. They are going to be doing a SOA based system for a variety of vendor based applications. The deatails that they are releasing on a daily basis seem to change a little every day. :) --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- text/html (html body -- converted) --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Palm Treo experiences (and Google Calendar)
Richard Kaye wrote: Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: That was one thing that people were arguing about on the mytreo forum. :) I think I tried to do this right after I first set up my google calendar and had given up on it. I must have gotten it right though because it does work. So, to confirm, what you were looking at was the full google calendar, not the mobile version that Ted pointed out, right? No. It's the mobile version. It's my understanding that there's something in there that recognizes you're browsing from a mobile device and it routes you to the WAP pages instead of the full blown calendar. It basically gives you a compressed display with the date on one line followed by one line for each event on that day. The events are linked to the event detail page where I now see the changes I just made to the description but I do not see the very exclusive guest list. Ah. Yes, that's how I understand it too - at least, that's how I was explaining it to my technology impaired better 2/3rds. You can manually navigate to the mobile page via the link that Ted posted earlier this morning while trying to avoid client work. Did I just say that? Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [JOB] Outsourced to Mexico
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am being told today that they are only hiring VB6 / VB.NET developers for the Micico location. First hire count was 12. They are going to be doing a SOA based system for a variety of vendor based applications. The deatails that they are releasing on a daily basis seem to change a little every day. :) You can probably get a good deal on tacoscheap living! gdr -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Creating RSS Feed w/ VFP
Yeah, but I wasn't paying attention cause I didn't see where I would need it, duh.G Have you got a snippet of it? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 7:36 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: Creating RSS Feed w/ VFP On 8/22/07, John Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone written code to produce an rss feed in vfp? I did, and you were at the conference in 2004 in Kansas City when I presented it! http://www.tedroche.com/papers.php Code similar to what I used there went on to produce RSS feeds for FoxCentral and the Fox wiki until they took over their own generation. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Internet Update
For VFP it's soap based so you are going to receive xml. Just parse it and be done with it. I'm not suggesting your delivery of updates this way! Just the check if you need it. VFP abstracts it so you don't see the XML. Personally, my webservices all have just 2 parameters in VFP-- inputXML and outputXML. I can then define in my own code what should be there and handle good defaults if it's not(i.e. mis-matched client/server versions-- very common when you distribute software). As for updates, I use the soap/XML converations for control, and have a seperate 'pickup' directory for temporary compressed files for reading/writing(http PUT commands to let the client upload). This works very well, and we have many thousands of these conversations take place every day world-wide now. -- Derek ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Creating RSS Feed w/ VFP
On 8/22/07, John Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but I wasn't paying attention cause I didn't see where I would need it, duh.G Have you got a snippet of it? Yeah, in the link I sent with the last email. I guess you weren't paying attention g http://www.tedroche.com/papers.php Source code, white paper and even the gratuitous graphics of powerpoint right there on the page for you to download. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Creating RSS Feed w/ VFP
Dang, sorry about that. Maybe you could just go ahead and write the thing! John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:05 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: Creating RSS Feed w/ VFP On 8/22/07, John Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but I wasn't paying attention cause I didn't see where I would need it, duh.G Have you got a snippet of it? Yeah, in the link I sent with the last email. I guess you weren't paying attention g http://www.tedroche.com/papers.php Source code, white paper and even the gratuitous graphics of powerpoint right there on the page for you to download. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Creating RSS Feed w/ VFP
Hey Ted, The pinpub link is dead! http://www.pinpub.com/media/pinpub/FT/405roche_FT04e.zip Thanks, JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:05 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: Creating RSS Feed w/ VFP On 8/22/07, John Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but I wasn't paying attention cause I didn't see where I would need it, duh.G Have you got a snippet of it? Yeah, in the link I sent with the last email. I guess you weren't paying attention g http://www.tedroche.com/papers.php Source code, white paper and even the gratuitous graphics of powerpoint right there on the page for you to download. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Creating RSS Feed w/ VFP
On 8/22/07, John Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Ted, The pinpub link is dead! http://www.pinpub.com/media/pinpub/FT/405roche_FT04e.zip Good catch. Pin Pub's dead, so that makes sense. I'll have to see if I can dig up the original submissions. Meanwhile, there's links on that page on my site to similar if not identical code. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Excel question
Jaime Vasquez wrote: Ricardo Aráoz wrote: Jaime, it works! And it solves my problem. Only glitch is that the second 'CopyFromRecordset(loRs, 150) copy next 150' does not copy the next 150 but copies the first 150 records again. Not a problem, I can copy my chunks of records to a cursor and then do a cursor at a time (rs.Delete(150) does not work either). Anyway if you can see a more elegant solution I'll appreciate it. Thanks for your help. Here is my test code : --- loWorkBook = loExcel.WorkBooks.Add loWorkBook.ActiveSheet.name = 'PrimeraHoja' loWorkBook.Worksheets(PrimeraHoja).Range('a2').CopyFromRecordSet(lors,20) loWorkBook.WorkSheets.Add(, loWorkBook.ActiveSheet) loWorkBook.ActiveSheet.Name = 'SegundaHoja' loWorkBook.WorkSheets(SegundaHoja).Range('a2').CopyFromRecordSet(lors,20) loWorkBook.Application.Visible = .T. and the same first 20 records are copied in both pages. So I do : - go top in MyCursor lors = dbf2rs('MyCursor', 'Next 20') loWorkBook = loExcel.WorkBooks.Add loWorkBook.ActiveSheet.name = 'PrimeraHoja' loWorkBook.Worksheets(PrimeraHoja).Range('a2').CopyFromRecordSet(lors,20) go 21 in MyCursor lors = dbf2rs('MyCursor', 'Next 20') loWorkBook.WorkSheets.Add(, loWorkBook.ActiveSheet) loWorkBook.ActiveSheet.Name = 'SegundaHoja' loWorkBook.WorkSheets(SegundaHoja).Range('a2').CopyFromRecordSet(lors,20) loWorkBook.Application.Visible = .T. - Ricardo, This behavior is because the recordset is a client recordset, you can't delete records, and everytime you copy records it will start from the beginning. With a server recordset you can use the method I suggested of copy records by chunks, or delete them. You can create a server recordset converting your cursor to a temporary phisical table and next read it with ADO. I thing the solution you found is the best, create a recordset with the number of records you want to copy in every page. I just have 2 observations: If the recordset has the number of records you want, there's no need for the sencond parameter in copyfromrecordset method. The copy will be a bit faster if you set excel visible = .t. before copy the recordset. HTH Saludos, Jaime Vasquez Muchas gracias Jaime. Me ha venido muy bien tu ayuda. Saludos. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Creating RSS Feed w/ VFP
Pin Pub's dead, so that makes sense. Understatement of the month! Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.swfox.net www.rickschummer.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Creating RSS Feed w/ VFP
What are you trying to say?VBG JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Schummer Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 6:32 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: Creating RSS Feed w/ VFP Pin Pub's dead, so that makes sense. Understatement of the month! Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.swfox.net www.rickschummer.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.