Re: [OT] Can't lie well enough or fast enough
I bet her net worth is now higher than Clueless Joe too. - Original Message - From: John Harvey To: 'ProFox Email List' Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:44 PM Subject: RE: [OT] Can't lie well enough or fast enough She is anything but an idiot. She defeated a sitting incumbent governor, and prior to that won the mayors race of her hometown. Plus she is SMOKING HOT! Lol The MSM loves to ignore the king and his jestor when they say stupd stuff like Obama and the 57 states, or Joe and . . . who has room to enumerate all of his idiocies. John -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:27 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Can't lie well enough or fast enough They keep calling Sarah an idiot, are they honestly going to tell us that Joe Biden is smarter than her? - Original Message - From: Pete Theisen To: ProFox Email List Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Can't lie well enough or fast enough On 05/23/2012 01:44 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote: > had the nerve to put someone in the White House who sounded on TV - > when he gave speeches - like a Southern HillBilly! Just the way he > spoke. It was LUDICROUS! Hi Kurt, I thought he was funny :-) > But, in the end - I don't think there was a Single time that people > tried to put a case against him - and try to impeach him - like has > been done to a number of our past Dem Presidents. > > I was glad to see a Pres. on TV again - who actually sounded > Intelligent when he spoke to our country - even though I know you and > Pete totally Hate Obama! "Hate Obama" is the wrong phrase. We hate to see an entertainer trying statesmanship and failing catastrophically. Especially when we really need a statesman. > Of course, if somehow Hillary had won - you both would have Basher her > just as much! Nice to see that you know our hearts and minds so well. > Yet - if that Idiot woman from Alaska had gotten into office - you > both probably would have thought she was the GREATEST Thing since > Sliced Bread!!! Idiot? If she is an Idiot how come the Ds get turned inside out when they debate her? Most won't even try. Have you challenged her? -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/002201cd395f$942a7820$bc7f6860$@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1337842583.11623.yahoomail...@web125606.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Can't lie well enough or fast enough
She is anything but an idiot. She defeated a sitting incumbent governor, and prior to that won the mayors race of her hometown. Plus she is SMOKING HOT! Lol The MSM loves to ignore the king and his jestor when they say stupd stuff like Obama and the 57 states, or Joe and . . . who has room to enumerate all of his idiocies. John -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:27 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Can't lie well enough or fast enough They keep calling Sarah an idiot, are they honestly going to tell us that Joe Biden is smarter than her? - Original Message - From: Pete Theisen To: ProFox Email List Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Can't lie well enough or fast enough On 05/23/2012 01:44 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote: > had the nerve to put someone in the White House who sounded on TV - > when he gave speeches - like a Southern HillBilly! Just the way he > spoke. It was LUDICROUS! Hi Kurt, I thought he was funny :-) > But, in the end - I don't think there was a Single time that people > tried to put a case against him - and try to impeach him - like has > been done to a number of our past Dem Presidents. > > I was glad to see a Pres. on TV again - who actually sounded > Intelligent when he spoke to our country - even though I know you and > Pete totally Hate Obama! "Hate Obama" is the wrong phrase. We hate to see an entertainer trying statesmanship and failing catastrophically. Especially when we really need a statesman. > Of course, if somehow Hillary had won - you both would have Basher her > just as much! Nice to see that you know our hearts and minds so well. > Yet - if that Idiot woman from Alaska had gotten into office - you > both probably would have thought she was the GREATEST Thing since > Sliced Bread!!! Idiot? If she is an Idiot how come the Ds get turned inside out when they debate her? Most won't even try. Have you challenged her? -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/002201cd395f$942a7820$bc7f6860$@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Can't lie well enough or fast enough
They keep calling Sarah an idiot, are they honestly going to tell us that Joe Biden is smarter than her? - Original Message - From: Pete Theisen To: ProFox Email List Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Can't lie well enough or fast enough On 05/23/2012 01:44 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote: > had the nerve to put someone in the White House who sounded on TV - > when he gave speeches - like a Southern HillBilly! Just the way he > spoke. It was LUDICROUS! Hi Kurt, I thought he was funny :-) > But, in the end - I don't think there was a Single time that people > tried to put a case against him - and try to impeach him - like has > been done to a number of our past Dem Presidents. > > I was glad to see a Pres. on TV again - who actually sounded > Intelligent when he spoke to our country - even though I know you and > Pete totally Hate Obama! "Hate Obama" is the wrong phrase. We hate to see an entertainer trying statesmanship and failing catastrophically. Especially when we really need a statesman. > Of course, if somehow Hillary had won - you both would have Basher > her just as much! Nice to see that you know our hearts and minds so well. > Yet - if that Idiot woman from Alaska had gotten into office - you > both probably would have thought she was the GREATEST Thing since > Sliced Bread!!! Idiot? If she is an Idiot how come the Ds get turned inside out when they debate her? Most won't even try. Have you challenged her? -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4fbd7b17.70...@verizon.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1337830007.80359.yahoomail...@web125601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Win XP Pro SP1 Version 2002
If the best option is to buy another CD then I can do that here also but then I would rather change the PC(as it was purchased around 2006 or 2007) and go for Win7. Right now I am using the big monitor with my laptop and enjoying. On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Michael Madigan wrote: > There are many CDs available on eBay. I'm sure you can find a dealer that > will ship to your country.. > > > http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=window+xp&_sacat=0 > > > > > - Original Message - > From: Nicholas Geti > To: ProFox Email List > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:34 PM > Subject: Re: Win XP Pro SP1 Version 2002 > > I have seen some pretty well-scratched CDs that still worked. Do you have > another CD drive to test? Or another PC? > > - Original Message - > From: "Ajoy Khaund" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:03 PM > Subject: Re: Win XP Pro SP1 Version 2002 > > > > Kurt you are right. > > > > The WinXp CD which I have is original. I had no problem for the last 8 > > years. I must > > have used it three times or so. My cd drive is about 12 years old so that > > must have > > spoilt the CD with use. > > > > If I had a pirated XP CD I would not have asked in this forum of which I > > have been a member > > for quite a no. of years. > > > > Anyway no hard feelings I hope. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Kurt Wendt > wrote: > > > >> Nicholas - I think its possible you may be jumping to conclusions! I > >> think Ajoy bought a legit copy of Windows. But, now that he has a > >> problem - and its an OLD OS to begin with - now he has a serious problem > >> trying to fix it. He simply brought up the fact that others within his > >> country get illegal versions of SW - but, that does NOT mean that he > >> did. > >> > >> Of course - Ajoy - feel free to jump in here - in case I have something > >> wrong. (Although - considering where he is from - he is probably > >> sleeping right now - while the rest of us are slaving away at work...) > >> :-) > >> > >> -K- > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On > >> Behalf Of Nicholas Geti > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:26 PM > >> > >> Oh, I knew alright. I am amazed that this fellow said it explicitly. I > >> am > >> not about to send him any help. > >> > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Kurt Wendt" > >> To: "ProFox Email List" > >> > >> > >> > Nicholas - you really don't know? > >> > > >> > I think it was a buddy of mine from Pakistan - told me he goes into > >> > these stores - and you can get almost ANY SW - and they burn a copy > >> onto > >> > a CD for you - SUPER Cheap - and they even have Copies of books - and > >> I > >> > saw one - it was like a paper back book - a BIG book - but, the pages > >> - > >> > they were like Newspaper print! Really strange indeed. > >> > > >> > So - no - I don't think he means people steal it - but, rather - they > >> > get it free or super cheap - but, in the end - its kinda the same > >> thing. > >> > Other countries don't have the same issue w/SW Piracy that we have > >> here > >> > in the USA (Not sure where you are located) - but, more and more ARE > >> > Cracking down - even in China! > >> > > >> > And - of course - you know that Microsoft has a whole division that > >> goes > >> > on MAJOR Busts to stop trafficking of illegal SW - and they work with > >> > the FBI and do Stings. I read about it a while ago - and I think there > >> > were big Sting Ops going on at that time in Mexico! There exists > >> REALLY > >> > BIG Operations and money made in illegal software sales! > >> > > >> > -K- > >> > > >> > -Original Message- > >> > From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On > >> > Behalf Of Nicholas Geti > >> > > >> > Are you needing a Windows Recovery CD or the Foxpro CD? > >> > Do you mean everyone there is stealing the software? > >> > > >> [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CAPs4RvWJMgnsq7QAZc=xnjf9sccfmhjgciec8ksjsivf7+g...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Win XP Pro SP1 Version 2002
We checked using another CD drive also but not on another PC. On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 2:04 AM, Nicholas Geti wrote: > I have seen some pretty well-scratched CDs that still worked. Do you have > another CD drive to test? Or another PC? > > - Original Message - > From: "Ajoy Khaund" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:03 PM > Subject: Re: Win XP Pro SP1 Version 2002 > > > > Kurt you are right. > > > > The WinXp CD which I have is original. I had no problem for the last 8 > > years. I must > > have used it three times or so. My cd drive is about 12 years old so that > > must have > > spoilt the CD with use. > > > > If I had a pirated XP CD I would not have asked in this forum of which I > > have been a member > > for quite a no. of years. > > > > Anyway no hard feelings I hope. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Kurt Wendt > wrote: > > > >> Nicholas - I think its possible you may be jumping to conclusions! I > >> think Ajoy bought a legit copy of Windows. But, now that he has a > >> problem - and its an OLD OS to begin with - now he has a serious problem > >> trying to fix it. He simply brought up the fact that others within his > >> country get illegal versions of SW - but, that does NOT mean that he > >> did. > >> > >> Of course - Ajoy - feel free to jump in here - in case I have something > >> wrong. (Although - considering where he is from - he is probably > >> sleeping right now - while the rest of us are slaving away at work...) > >> :-) > >> > >> -K- > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On > >> Behalf Of Nicholas Geti > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:26 PM > >> > >> Oh, I knew alright. I am amazed that this fellow said it explicitly. I > >> am > >> not about to send him any help. > >> > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Kurt Wendt" > >> To: "ProFox Email List" > >> > >> > >> > Nicholas - you really don't know? > >> > > >> > I think it was a buddy of mine from Pakistan - told me he goes into > >> > these stores - and you can get almost ANY SW - and they burn a copy > >> onto > >> > a CD for you - SUPER Cheap - and they even have Copies of books - and > >> I > >> > saw one - it was like a paper back book - a BIG book - but, the pages > >> - > >> > they were like Newspaper print! Really strange indeed. > >> > > >> > So - no - I don't think he means people steal it - but, rather - they > >> > get it free or super cheap - but, in the end - its kinda the same > >> thing. > >> > Other countries don't have the same issue w/SW Piracy that we have > >> here > >> > in the USA (Not sure where you are located) - but, more and more ARE > >> > Cracking down - even in China! > >> > > >> > And - of course - you know that Microsoft has a whole division that > >> goes > >> > on MAJOR Busts to stop trafficking of illegal SW - and they work with > >> > the FBI and do Stings. I read about it a while ago - and I think there > >> > were big Sting Ops going on at that time in Mexico! There exists > >> REALLY > >> > BIG Operations and money made in illegal software sales! > >> > > >> > -K- > >> > > >> > -Original Message- > >> > From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On > >> > Behalf Of Nicholas Geti > >> > > >> > Are you needing a Windows Recovery CD or the Foxpro CD? > >> > Do you mean everyone there is stealing the software? > >> > > >> [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/caps4rvw1xefd8cicpe+0q4knowwim70ournars51f3be5rd...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Win XP Pro SP1 Version 2002
On 05/23/2012 02:03 PM, Ajoy Khaund wrote: > Kurt you are right. > > The WinXp CD which I have is original. I had no problem for the last 8 > years. I must > have used it three times or so. My cd drive is about 12 years old so that > must have > spoilt the CD with use. > > If I had a pirated XP CD I would not have asked in this forum of which I > have been a member > for quite a no. of years. > > Anyway no hard feelings I hope. > > Thanks This brings back memories of our parting of the ways with the Great Satan. In those days they had websites telling you how to tell your CD was legit. Well, according to the web site all ours were. They still wanted $40 K from us. Gates, Ballmer and company need to serve time in the big house. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4fbd7ded.3000...@verizon.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Can't lie well enough or fast enough
On 05/23/2012 01:44 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote: > had the nerve to put someone in the White House who sounded on TV - > when he gave speeches - like a Southern HillBilly! Just the way he > spoke. It was LUDICROUS! Hi Kurt, I thought he was funny :-) > But, in the end - I don't think there was a Single time that people > tried to put a case against him - and try to impeach him - like has > been done to a number of our past Dem Presidents. > > I was glad to see a Pres. on TV again - who actually sounded > Intelligent when he spoke to our country - even though I know you and > Pete totally Hate Obama! "Hate Obama" is the wrong phrase. We hate to see an entertainer trying statesmanship and failing catastrophically. Especially when we really need a statesman. > Of course, if somehow Hillary had won - you both would have Basher > her just as much! Nice to see that you know our hearts and minds so well. > Yet - if that Idiot woman from Alaska had gotten into office - you > both probably would have thought she was the GREATEST Thing since > Sliced Bread!!! Idiot? If she is an Idiot how come the Ds get turned inside out when they debate her? Most won't even try. Have you challenged her? -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4fbd7b17.70...@verizon.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup
Thanks for the info. - Original Message - From: "Michael Oke, II" To: ProFox Email List Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup Not any more. You can handle traffic in both directions now and you might be surprised at the throughput. No it doesn't compare to cable/dsl/or better but it's a far sight better than dialup. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On May 23, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: > If i'm not mistaken, satellite is only for the down traffic, the up traffic > still goes through a phone line. > > > - Original Message - > From: Leland Jackson > To: ProFox Email List > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 6:03 PM > Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup > > The below web page states: > > #--- > As long as you have a clear view of the southern sky where the provider > can stick the small satellite, and you have a PC or Mac, you can access > the internet. > > http://satellite-internet-review.toptenreviews.com/ > > #--- > > Anyway, satellite internet is expensive and doesn't provide much more > bandwidth than an analog modem, so it's probably only good where DSL or > Cable are not available. > > A router with two WAN Ethernet ports might work. You might need a > cable with an RJ45 connection at one end to connect into the router and > a com connection on the other end to connect to the dialup modem. I'm > not sure how you would talk to the modem when its connected to the > router, (eg to initialize it and call the ISP, but this could be > explored. There is software in Linux that allows talking to a modem > connected to a com port, but doing this through the router might be a > problem. I think some dual WAN port routers only allow only one WAN > port to be open at a time. LOL > > http://www.nagios.org/about/propaganda/distros > > Regards, > > Leland J > > > > > > On 05/23/2012 03:57 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: >> Satellite has issues with heavy rain, wind or snow. >> >> Here's a network 56k modem that might work. You might have to teach the >> users to manually connect, though >> >> http://www.buy.com/pr/product.aspx?sku=10249537&sellerid=18830977 >> >> >> >> >> From: Leland Jackson >> To: ProFox Email List >> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:50 PM >> Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup >> >> What about satellite internet? It might be reliable enough that you >> wouldn't need a dialup fallback. >> >> You could use Nagios to monitor services and have it notify you if >> anything goes down. >> >> http://www.nagios.org/ >> >> Regards, >> >> LelandJ >> >> >> On 05/23/2012 03:30 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: >>> Excellent! I should be able to figure the configuration out from that! >>> >>> Would you care to share or point to an example Python script? >>> >>> Thanks - Joe >>> >>> On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:20 PM, Paul McNett wrote: Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 13:20:33 -0700 From: Paul McNett To: profoxt...@leafe.com cc: Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup The linux box I was talking about *was* the gateway, and had a static IP address of 10.0.0.1. The box had two network interfaces, eth0 with a dhcp-assigned address by the cable ISP, and ppp0 with a dhcp-assigned address by the dialup ISP. So client computers didn't need to change anything with their addresses, gateway, or routing tables. Paul On 5/23/12 1:15 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: > Paul, > > In my case I would not want the dialup to be active unless the DSL was > down as the Dialup modem will be connected to the fax line. In my > current configuration when I manually switch between DSL and EVDO > routers, I switch the IP addresses so that the active device is always > at the same address. This allows the connected machines to access the > gateway without needing to hit the DHCP server. > > Thanks, > > Joe > > On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:37 PM, Paul McNett wrote: >> Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 13:37:31 -0700 >> From: Paul McNett >> To: profoxt...@leafe.com >> cc: >> Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup >> >> On 5/22/12 1:13 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: >>> I have been looking for a modem that connects to the Internet via DSL >>> as long as that service is up but then automatically switches to Dialup >>> if the DSL is down. I have had no luck finding that functionality in >>> one box. If someone knows of such a device I am all ears! >> I did this about 8 years ago using a Linux box and a python script. It >> kept both the >> high-speed and dialup links live as
RE: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup
The issue is the "fair use policy", which means they meter you after you hit a certain bandwidth and it will slow to a trickle unless you pay big bucks. I am a certified HughesNet installer, and had a direcway system because they didn't offer dsl or anything else when I first built this house. I now have DSL. I like satellite for remote systems and emergency systems, but not for heavy usage. John Harvey -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:33 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup If i'm not mistaken, satellite is only for the down traffic, the up traffic still goes through a phone line. - Original Message - From: Leland Jackson To: ProFox Email List Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup The below web page states: #--- As long as you have a clear view of the southern sky where the provider can stick the small satellite, and you have a PC or Mac, you can access the internet. http://satellite-internet-review.toptenreviews.com/ #--- Anyway, satellite internet is expensive and doesn't provide much more bandwidth than an analog modem, so it's probably only good where DSL or Cable are not available. A router with two WAN Ethernet ports might work. You might need a cable with an RJ45 connection at one end to connect into the router and a com connection on the other end to connect to the dialup modem. I'm not sure how you would talk to the modem when its connected to the router, (eg to initialize it and call the ISP, but this could be explored. There is software in Linux that allows talking to a modem connected to a com port, but doing this through the router might be a problem. I think some dual WAN port routers only allow only one WAN port to be open at a time. LOL http://www.nagios.org/about/propaganda/distros Regards, Leland J On 05/23/2012 03:57 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: > Satellite has issues with heavy rain, wind or snow. > > Here's a network 56k modem that might work. You might have to teach > the users to manually connect, though > > http://www.buy.com/pr/product.aspx?sku=10249537&sellerid=18830977 > > > > > From: Leland Jackson > To: ProFox Email List > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:50 PM > Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup > > What about satellite internet? It might be reliable enough that you > wouldn't need a dialup fallback. > > You could use Nagios to monitor services and have it notify you if > anything goes down. > > http://www.nagios.org/ > > Regards, > > LelandJ > > > On 05/23/2012 03:30 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: >> Excellent! I should be able to figure the configuration out from that! >> >> Would you care to share or point to an example Python script? >> >> Thanks - Joe >> >> On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:20 PM, Paul McNett wrote: >>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 13:20:33 -0700 >>> From: Paul McNett >>> To: profoxt...@leafe.com >>> cc: >>> Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup >>> >>> The linux box I was talking about *was* the gateway, and had a >>> static IP address of 10.0.0.1. The box had two network interfaces, >>> eth0 with a dhcp-assigned address by the cable ISP, and ppp0 with a >>> dhcp-assigned address by the dialup ISP. So client computers didn't >>> need to change anything with their addresses, gateway, or routing tables. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> On 5/23/12 1:15 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: Paul, In my case I would not want the dialup to be active unless the DSL was down as the Dialup modem will be connected to the fax line. In my current configuration when I manually switch between DSL and EVDO routers, I switch the IP addresses so that the active device is always at the same address. This allows the connected machines to access the gateway without needing to hit the DHCP server. Thanks, Joe On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:37 PM, Paul McNett wrote: > Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 13:37:31 -0700 > From: Paul McNett > To: profoxt...@leafe.com > cc: > Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup > > On 5/22/12 1:13 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: >> I have been looking for a modem that connects to the Internet via DSL as long as that service is up but then automatically switches to Dialup if the DSL is down. I have had no luck finding that functionality in one box. If someone knows of such a device I am all ears! > I did this about 8 years ago using a Linux box and a python > script. It kept both the high-speed and dialup links live as much > as possible but when it detected a problem with the high-speed, it reset the priority of the dialup link in the routing table. > > Paul [excessive quo
RE: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup
That was the first gen stuff. Now it goes up and down via satellite. John -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:33 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup If i'm not mistaken, satellite is only for the down traffic, the up traffic still goes through a phone line. - Original Message - From: Leland Jackson To: ProFox Email List Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup The below web page states: #--- As long as you have a clear view of the southern sky where the provider can stick the small satellite, and you have a PC or Mac, you can access the internet. http://satellite-internet-review.toptenreviews.com/ #--- Anyway, satellite internet is expensive and doesn't provide much more bandwidth than an analog modem, so it's probably only good where DSL or Cable are not available. A router with two WAN Ethernet ports might work. You might need a cable with an RJ45 connection at one end to connect into the router and a com connection on the other end to connect to the dialup modem. I'm not sure how you would talk to the modem when its connected to the router, (eg to initialize it and call the ISP, but this could be explored. There is software in Linux that allows talking to a modem connected to a com port, but doing this through the router might be a problem. I think some dual WAN port routers only allow only one WAN port to be open at a time. LOL http://www.nagios.org/about/propaganda/distros Regards, Leland J On 05/23/2012 03:57 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: > Satellite has issues with heavy rain, wind or snow. > > Here's a network 56k modem that might work. You might have to teach > the users to manually connect, though > > http://www.buy.com/pr/product.aspx?sku=10249537&sellerid=18830977 > > > > > From: Leland Jackson > To: ProFox Email List > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:50 PM > Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup > > What about satellite internet? It might be reliable enough that you > wouldn't need a dialup fallback. > > You could use Nagios to monitor services and have it notify you if > anything goes down. > > http://www.nagios.org/ > > Regards, > > LelandJ > > > On 05/23/2012 03:30 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: >> Excellent! I should be able to figure the configuration out from that! >> >> Would you care to share or point to an example Python script? >> >> Thanks - Joe >> >> On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:20 PM, Paul McNett wrote: >>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 13:20:33 -0700 >>> From: Paul McNett >>> To: profoxt...@leafe.com >>> cc: >>> Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup >>> >>> The linux box I was talking about *was* the gateway, and had a >>> static IP address of 10.0.0.1. The box had two network interfaces, >>> eth0 with a dhcp-assigned address by the cable ISP, and ppp0 with a >>> dhcp-assigned address by the dialup ISP. So client computers didn't >>> need to change anything with their addresses, gateway, or routing tables. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> On 5/23/12 1:15 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: Paul, In my case I would not want the dialup to be active unless the DSL was down as the Dialup modem will be connected to the fax line. In my current configuration when I manually switch between DSL and EVDO routers, I switch the IP addresses so that the active device is always at the same address. This allows the connected machines to access the gateway without needing to hit the DHCP server. Thanks, Joe On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:37 PM, Paul McNett wrote: > Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 13:37:31 -0700 > From: Paul McNett > To: profoxt...@leafe.com > cc: > Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup > > On 5/22/12 1:13 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: >> I have been looking for a modem that connects to the Internet via DSL as long as that service is up but then automatically switches to Dialup if the DSL is down. I have had no luck finding that functionality in one box. If someone knows of such a device I am all ears! > I did this about 8 years ago using a Linux box and a python > script. It kept both the high-speed and dialup links live as much > as possible but when it detected a problem with the high-speed, it reset the priority of the dialup link in the routing table. > > Paul [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://l
Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup
Not any more. You can handle traffic in both directions now and you might be surprised at the throughput. No it doesn't compare to cable/dsl/or better but it's a far sight better than dialup. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On May 23, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: > If i'm not mistaken, satellite is only for the down traffic, the up traffic > still goes through a phone line. > > > - Original Message - > From: Leland Jackson > To: ProFox Email List > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 6:03 PM > Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup > > The below web page states: > > #--- > As long as you have a clear view of the southern sky where the provider > can stick the small satellite, and you have a PC or Mac, you can access > the internet. > > http://satellite-internet-review.toptenreviews.com/ > > #--- > > Anyway, satellite internet is expensive and doesn't provide much more > bandwidth than an analog modem, so it's probably only good where DSL or > Cable are not available. > > A router with two WAN Ethernet ports might work. You might need a > cable with an RJ45 connection at one end to connect into the router and > a com connection on the other end to connect to the dialup modem. I'm > not sure how you would talk to the modem when its connected to the > router, (eg to initialize it and call the ISP, but this could be > explored. There is software in Linux that allows talking to a modem > connected to a com port, but doing this through the router might be a > problem. I think some dual WAN port routers only allow only one WAN > port to be open at a time. LOL > > http://www.nagios.org/about/propaganda/distros > > Regards, > > Leland J > > > > > > On 05/23/2012 03:57 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: >> Satellite has issues with heavy rain, wind or snow. >> >> Here's a network 56k modem that might work. You might have to teach the >> users to manually connect, though >> >> http://www.buy.com/pr/product.aspx?sku=10249537&sellerid=18830977 >> >> >> >> >> From: Leland Jackson >> To: ProFox Email List >> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:50 PM >> Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup >> >> What about satellite internet? It might be reliable enough that you >> wouldn't need a dialup fallback. >> >> You could use Nagios to monitor services and have it notify you if >> anything goes down. >> >> http://www.nagios.org/ >> >> Regards, >> >> LelandJ >> >> >> On 05/23/2012 03:30 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: >>> Excellent! I should be able to figure the configuration out from that! >>> >>> Would you care to share or point to an example Python script? >>> >>> Thanks - Joe >>> >>> On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:20 PM, Paul McNett wrote: Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 13:20:33 -0700 From: Paul McNett To: profoxt...@leafe.com cc: Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup The linux box I was talking about *was* the gateway, and had a static IP address of 10.0.0.1. The box had two network interfaces, eth0 with a dhcp-assigned address by the cable ISP, and ppp0 with a dhcp-assigned address by the dialup ISP. So client computers didn't need to change anything with their addresses, gateway, or routing tables. Paul On 5/23/12 1:15 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: > Paul, > > In my case I would not want the dialup to be active unless the DSL was > down as the Dialup modem will be connected to the fax line. In my > current configuration when I manually switch between DSL and EVDO > routers, I switch the IP addresses so that the active device is always > at the same address. This allows the connected machines to access the > gateway without needing to hit the DHCP server. > > Thanks, > > Joe > > On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:37 PM, Paul McNett wrote: >> Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 13:37:31 -0700 >> From: Paul McNett >> To: profoxt...@leafe.com >> cc: >> Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup >> >> On 5/22/12 1:13 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: >>> I have been looking for a modem that connects to the Internet via DSL >>> as long as that service is up but then automatically switches to Dialup >>> if the DSL is down. I have had no luck finding that functionality in >>> one box. If someone knows of such a device I am all ears! >> I did this about 8 years ago using a Linux box and a python script. It >> kept both the >> high-speed and dialup links live as much as possible but when it >> detected a problem >> with the high-speed, it reset the priority of the dialup link in the >> routing table. >> >> Paul [excessive quoting removed b
Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup
If i'm not mistaken, satellite is only for the down traffic, the up traffic still goes through a phone line. - Original Message - From: Leland Jackson To: ProFox Email List Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup The below web page states: #--- As long as you have a clear view of the southern sky where the provider can stick the small satellite, and you have a PC or Mac, you can access the internet. http://satellite-internet-review.toptenreviews.com/ #--- Anyway, satellite internet is expensive and doesn't provide much more bandwidth than an analog modem, so it's probably only good where DSL or Cable are not available. A router with two WAN Ethernet ports might work. You might need a cable with an RJ45 connection at one end to connect into the router and a com connection on the other end to connect to the dialup modem. I'm not sure how you would talk to the modem when its connected to the router, (eg to initialize it and call the ISP, but this could be explored. There is software in Linux that allows talking to a modem connected to a com port, but doing this through the router might be a problem. I think some dual WAN port routers only allow only one WAN port to be open at a time. LOL http://www.nagios.org/about/propaganda/distros Regards, Leland J On 05/23/2012 03:57 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: > Satellite has issues with heavy rain, wind or snow. > > Here's a network 56k modem that might work. You might have to teach the > users to manually connect, though > > http://www.buy.com/pr/product.aspx?sku=10249537&sellerid=18830977 > > > > > From: Leland Jackson > To: ProFox Email List > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:50 PM > Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup > > What about satellite internet? It might be reliable enough that you > wouldn't need a dialup fallback. > > You could use Nagios to monitor services and have it notify you if > anything goes down. > > http://www.nagios.org/ > > Regards, > > LelandJ > > > On 05/23/2012 03:30 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: >> Excellent! I should be able to figure the configuration out from that! >> >> Would you care to share or point to an example Python script? >> >> Thanks - Joe >> >> On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:20 PM, Paul McNett wrote: >>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 13:20:33 -0700 >>> From: Paul McNett >>> To: profoxt...@leafe.com >>> cc: >>> Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup >>> >>> The linux box I was talking about *was* the gateway, and had a static IP >>> address of >>> 10.0.0.1. The box had two network interfaces, eth0 with a dhcp-assigned >>> address by >>> the cable ISP, and ppp0 with a dhcp-assigned address by the dialup ISP. So >>> client >>> computers didn't need to change anything with their addresses, gateway, or >>> routing >>> tables. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> On 5/23/12 1:15 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: Paul, In my case I would not want the dialup to be active unless the DSL was down as the Dialup modem will be connected to the fax line. In my current configuration when I manually switch between DSL and EVDO routers, I switch the IP addresses so that the active device is always at the same address. This allows the connected machines to access the gateway without needing to hit the DHCP server. Thanks, Joe On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:37 PM, Paul McNett wrote: > Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 13:37:31 -0700 > From: Paul McNett > To: profoxt...@leafe.com > cc: > Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup > > On 5/22/12 1:13 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: >> I have been looking for a modem that connects to the Internet via DSL as >> long as that service is up but then automatically switches to Dialup if >> the DSL is down. I have had no luck finding that functionality in one >> box. If someone knows of such a device I am all ears! > I did this about 8 years ago using a Linux box and a python script. It > kept both the > high-speed and dialup links live as much as possible but when it detected > a problem > with the high-speed, it reset the priority of the dialup link in the > routing table. > > Paul [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4fbd5ebe.5080...@mail.smvfp.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawy
Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup
Because most people use a router to connect to the internet, not a linux computer. - Original Message - From: Paul McNett To: profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup Why would anyone need a packaged product to send a ping test every minute and change the routing tables based on the result? It is like 3 lines of code... On 5/23/12 1:39 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: > I'm surprised there isn't a packaged product that does this. Seems a lot of > people would need to do this. > > > > From: Paul McNett > To: profox@leafe.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:37 PM > Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup > > Sorry, I don't have that anymore but basically write a cronjob to ping over > the > high-speed interface once a minute and if no response received switch over to > the > slow link. > > Paul > > > On 5/23/12 1:30 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: >> Excellent! I should be able to figure the configuration out from that! >> >> Would you care to share or point to an example Python script? >> >> Thanks - Joe >> >> On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:20 PM, Paul McNett wrote: >>> >>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 13:20:33 -0700 >>> From: Paul McNett >>> To: profoxt...@leafe.com >>> cc: >>> Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup >>> >>> The linux box I was talking about *was* the gateway, and had a static IP >>> address of >>> 10.0.0.1. The box had two network interfaces, eth0 with a dhcp-assigned >>> address by >>> the cable ISP, and ppp0 with a dhcp-assigned address by the dialup ISP. So >>> client >>> computers didn't need to change anything with their addresses, gateway, or >>> routing >>> tables. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> On 5/23/12 1:15 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: Paul, In my case I would not want the dialup to be active unless the DSL was down as the Dialup modem will be connected to the fax line. In my current configuration when I manually switch between DSL and EVDO routers, I switch the IP addresses so that the active device is always at the same address. This allows the connected machines to access the gateway without needing to hit the DHCP server. Thanks, Joe On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:37 PM, Paul McNett wrote: > > Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 13:37:31 -0700 > From: Paul McNett > To: profoxt...@leafe.com > cc: > Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup > > On 5/22/12 1:13 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: >> I have been looking for a modem that connects to the Internet via DSL as >> long as that service is up but then automatically switches to Dialup if >> the DSL is down. I have had no luck finding that functionality in one >> box. If someone knows of such a device I am all ears! > > I did this about 8 years ago using a Linux box and a python script. It > kept both the > high-speed and dialup links live as much as possible but when it detected > a problem > with the high-speed, it reset the priority of the dialup link in the > routing table. > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4fbd526b.8050...@ulmcnett.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1337812288.79095.yahoomail...@web125604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup
The below web page states: #--- As long as you have a clear view of the southern sky where the provider can stick the small satellite, and you have a PC or Mac, you can access the internet. http://satellite-internet-review.toptenreviews.com/ #--- Anyway, satellite internet is expensive and doesn't provide much more bandwidth than an analog modem, so it's probably only good where DSL or Cable are not available. A router with two WAN Ethernet ports might work. You might need a cable with an RJ45 connection at one end to connect into the router and a com connection on the other end to connect to the dialup modem. I'm not sure how you would talk to the modem when its connected to the router, (eg to initialize it and call the ISP, but this could be explored. There is software in Linux that allows talking to a modem connected to a com port, but doing this through the router might be a problem. I think some dual WAN port routers only allow only one WAN port to be open at a time. LOL http://www.nagios.org/about/propaganda/distros Regards, Leland J On 05/23/2012 03:57 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: > Satellite has issues with heavy rain, wind or snow. > > Here's a network 56k modem that might work. You might have to teach the > users to manually connect, though > > http://www.buy.com/pr/product.aspx?sku=10249537&sellerid=18830977 > > > > > From: Leland Jackson > To: ProFox Email List > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:50 PM > Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup > > What about satellite internet? It might be reliable enough that you > wouldn't need a dialup fallback. > > You could use Nagios to monitor services and have it notify you if > anything goes down. > > http://www.nagios.org/ > > Regards, > > LelandJ > > > On 05/23/2012 03:30 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: >> Excellent! I should be able to figure the configuration out from that! >> >> Would you care to share or point to an example Python script? >> >> Thanks - Joe >> >> On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:20 PM, Paul McNett wrote: >>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 13:20:33 -0700 >>> From: Paul McNett >>> To: profoxt...@leafe.com >>> cc: >>> Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup >>> >>> The linux box I was talking about *was* the gateway, and had a static IP >>> address of >>> 10.0.0.1. The box had two network interfaces, eth0 with a dhcp-assigned >>> address by >>> the cable ISP, and ppp0 with a dhcp-assigned address by the dialup ISP. So >>> client >>> computers didn't need to change anything with their addresses, gateway, or >>> routing >>> tables. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> On 5/23/12 1:15 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: Paul, In my case I would not want the dialup to be active unless the DSL was down as the Dialup modem will be connected to the fax line. In my current configuration when I manually switch between DSL and EVDO routers, I switch the IP addresses so that the active device is always at the same address. This allows the connected machines to access the gateway without needing to hit the DHCP server. Thanks, Joe On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:37 PM, Paul McNett wrote: > Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 13:37:31 -0700 > From: Paul McNett > To: profoxt...@leafe.com > cc: > Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup > > On 5/22/12 1:13 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: >> I have been looking for a modem that connects to the Internet via DSL as >> long as that service is up but then automatically switches to Dialup if >> the DSL is down. I have had no luck finding that functionality in one >> box. If someone knows of such a device I am all ears! > I did this about 8 years ago using a Linux box and a python script. It > kept both the > high-speed and dialup links live as much as possible but when it detected > a problem > with the high-speed, it reset the priority of the dialup link in the > routing table. > > Paul [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4fbd5ebe.5080...@mail.smvfp.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup
Why would anyone need a packaged product to send a ping test every minute and change the routing tables based on the result? It is like 3 lines of code... On 5/23/12 1:39 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: > I'm surprised there isn't a packaged product that does this. Seems a lot of > people would need to do this. > > > > From: Paul McNett > To: profox@leafe.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:37 PM > Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup > > Sorry, I don't have that anymore but basically write a cronjob to ping over > the > high-speed interface once a minute and if no response received switch over to > the > slow link. > > Paul > > > On 5/23/12 1:30 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: >> Excellent! I should be able to figure the configuration out from that! >> >> Would you care to share or point to an example Python script? >> >> Thanks - Joe >> >> On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:20 PM, Paul McNett wrote: >>> >>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 13:20:33 -0700 >>> From: Paul McNett >>> To: profoxt...@leafe.com >>> cc: >>> Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup >>> >>> The linux box I was talking about *was* the gateway, and had a static IP >>> address of >>> 10.0.0.1. The box had two network interfaces, eth0 with a dhcp-assigned >>> address by >>> the cable ISP, and ppp0 with a dhcp-assigned address by the dialup ISP. So >>> client >>> computers didn't need to change anything with their addresses, gateway, or >>> routing >>> tables. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> On 5/23/12 1:15 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: Paul, In my case I would not want the dialup to be active unless the DSL was down as the Dialup modem will be connected to the fax line. In my current configuration when I manually switch between DSL and EVDO routers, I switch the IP addresses so that the active device is always at the same address. This allows the connected machines to access the gateway without needing to hit the DHCP server. Thanks, Joe On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:37 PM, Paul McNett wrote: > > Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 13:37:31 -0700 > From: Paul McNett > To: profoxt...@leafe.com > cc: > Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup > > On 5/22/12 1:13 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: >> I have been looking for a modem that connects to the Internet via DSL as >> long as that service is up but then automatically switches to Dialup if >> the DSL is down. I have had no luck finding that functionality in one >> box. If someone knows of such a device I am all ears! > > I did this about 8 years ago using a Linux box and a python script. It > kept both the > high-speed and dialup links live as much as possible but when it detected > a problem > with the high-speed, it reset the priority of the dialup link in the > routing table. > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4fbd526b.8050...@ulmcnett.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Win XP Pro SP1 Version 2002
There are many CDs available on eBay. I'm sure you can find a dealer that will ship to your country.. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=window+xp&_sacat=0 - Original Message - From: Nicholas Geti To: ProFox Email List Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:34 PM Subject: Re: Win XP Pro SP1 Version 2002 I have seen some pretty well-scratched CDs that still worked. Do you have another CD drive to test? Or another PC? - Original Message - From: "Ajoy Khaund" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:03 PM Subject: Re: Win XP Pro SP1 Version 2002 > Kurt you are right. > > The WinXp CD which I have is original. I had no problem for the last 8 > years. I must > have used it three times or so. My cd drive is about 12 years old so that > must have > spoilt the CD with use. > > If I had a pirated XP CD I would not have asked in this forum of which I > have been a member > for quite a no. of years. > > Anyway no hard feelings I hope. > > Thanks > > > > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote: > >> Nicholas - I think its possible you may be jumping to conclusions! I >> think Ajoy bought a legit copy of Windows. But, now that he has a >> problem - and its an OLD OS to begin with - now he has a serious problem >> trying to fix it. He simply brought up the fact that others within his >> country get illegal versions of SW - but, that does NOT mean that he >> did. >> >> Of course - Ajoy - feel free to jump in here - in case I have something >> wrong. (Although - considering where he is from - he is probably >> sleeping right now - while the rest of us are slaving away at work...) >> :-) >> >> -K- >> >> -Original Message- >> From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On >> Behalf Of Nicholas Geti >> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:26 PM >> >> Oh, I knew alright. I am amazed that this fellow said it explicitly. I >> am >> not about to send him any help. >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Kurt Wendt" >> To: "ProFox Email List" >> >> >> > Nicholas - you really don't know? >> > >> > I think it was a buddy of mine from Pakistan - told me he goes into >> > these stores - and you can get almost ANY SW - and they burn a copy >> onto >> > a CD for you - SUPER Cheap - and they even have Copies of books - and >> I >> > saw one - it was like a paper back book - a BIG book - but, the pages >> - >> > they were like Newspaper print! Really strange indeed. >> > >> > So - no - I don't think he means people steal it - but, rather - they >> > get it free or super cheap - but, in the end - its kinda the same >> thing. >> > Other countries don't have the same issue w/SW Piracy that we have >> here >> > in the USA (Not sure where you are located) - but, more and more ARE >> > Cracking down - even in China! >> > >> > And - of course - you know that Microsoft has a whole division that >> goes >> > on MAJOR Busts to stop trafficking of illegal SW - and they work with >> > the FBI and do Stings. I read about it a while ago - and I think there >> > were big Sting Ops going on at that time in Mexico! There exists >> REALLY >> > BIG Operations and money made in illegal software sales! >> > >> > -K- >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On >> > Behalf Of Nicholas Geti >> > >> > Are you needing a Windows Recovery CD or the Foxpro CD? >> > Do you mean everyone there is stealing the software? >> > >> [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/5796CD92FDB14C7EAA916E0E57536EC8@dual ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1337807154.1.yahoomail...@web125606.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Win XP Pro SP1 Version 2002
On a side note, I thought WIn XP was supported until 2014? - Original Message - From: Nicholas Geti To: ProFox Email List Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:34 PM Subject: Re: Win XP Pro SP1 Version 2002 I have seen some pretty well-scratched CDs that still worked. Do you have another CD drive to test? Or another PC? - Original Message - From: "Ajoy Khaund" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:03 PM Subject: Re: Win XP Pro SP1 Version 2002 > Kurt you are right. > > The WinXp CD which I have is original. I had no problem for the last 8 > years. I must > have used it three times or so. My cd drive is about 12 years old so that > must have > spoilt the CD with use. > > If I had a pirated XP CD I would not have asked in this forum of which I > have been a member > for quite a no. of years. > > Anyway no hard feelings I hope. > > Thanks > > > > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote: > >> Nicholas - I think its possible you may be jumping to conclusions! I >> think Ajoy bought a legit copy of Windows. But, now that he has a >> problem - and its an OLD OS to begin with - now he has a serious problem >> trying to fix it. He simply brought up the fact that others within his >> country get illegal versions of SW - but, that does NOT mean that he >> did. >> >> Of course - Ajoy - feel free to jump in here - in case I have something >> wrong. (Although - considering where he is from - he is probably >> sleeping right now - while the rest of us are slaving away at work...) >> :-) >> >> -K- >> >> -Original Message- >> From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On >> Behalf Of Nicholas Geti >> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:26 PM >> >> Oh, I knew alright. I am amazed that this fellow said it explicitly. I >> am >> not about to send him any help. >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Kurt Wendt" >> To: "ProFox Email List" >> >> >> > Nicholas - you really don't know? >> > >> > I think it was a buddy of mine from Pakistan - told me he goes into >> > these stores - and you can get almost ANY SW - and they burn a copy >> onto >> > a CD for you - SUPER Cheap - and they even have Copies of books - and >> I >> > saw one - it was like a paper back book - a BIG book - but, the pages >> - >> > they were like Newspaper print! Really strange indeed. >> > >> > So - no - I don't think he means people steal it - but, rather - they >> > get it free or super cheap - but, in the end - its kinda the same >> thing. >> > Other countries don't have the same issue w/SW Piracy that we have >> here >> > in the USA (Not sure where you are located) - but, more and more ARE >> > Cracking down - even in China! >> > >> > And - of course - you know that Microsoft has a whole division that >> goes >> > on MAJOR Busts to stop trafficking of illegal SW - and they work with >> > the FBI and do Stings. I read about it a while ago - and I think there >> > were big Sting Ops going on at that time in Mexico! There exists >> REALLY >> > BIG Operations and money made in illegal software sales! >> > >> > -K- >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On >> > Behalf Of Nicholas Geti >> > >> > Are you needing a Windows Recovery CD or the Foxpro CD? >> > Do you mean everyone there is stealing the software? >> > >> [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/5796CD92FDB14C7EAA916E0E57536EC8@dual ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1337807034.68161.yahoomail...@web125605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup
Of course the question is whether dial-up is even more trouble than it's work. For popping down mail maybe, but if the users are really going to do any work, then probably not. - Original Message - From: Michael Madigan To: ProFox Email List Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup Satellite has issues with heavy rain, wind or snow. Here's a network 56k modem that might work. You might have to teach the users to manually connect, though http://www.buy.com/pr/product.aspx?sku=10249537&sellerid=18830977 From: Leland Jackson To: ProFox Email List Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup What about satellite internet? It might be reliable enough that you wouldn't need a dialup fallback. You could use Nagios to monitor services and have it notify you if anything goes down. http://www.nagios.org/ Regards, LelandJ On 05/23/2012 03:30 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: > Excellent! I should be able to figure the configuration out from that! > > Would you care to share or point to an example Python script? > > Thanks - Joe > > On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:20 PM, Paul McNett wrote: >> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 13:20:33 -0700 >> From: Paul McNett >> To: profoxt...@leafe.com >> cc: >> Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup >> >> The linux box I was talking about *was* the gateway, and had a static IP >> address of >> 10.0.0.1. The box had two network interfaces, eth0 with a dhcp-assigned >> address by >> the cable ISP, and ppp0 with a dhcp-assigned address by the dialup ISP. So >> client >> computers didn't need to change anything with their addresses, gateway, or >> routing >> tables. >> >> Paul >> >> >> On 5/23/12 1:15 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: >>> Paul, >>> >>> In my case I would not want the dialup to be active unless the DSL was >>> down as the Dialup modem will be connected to the fax line. In my >>> current configuration when I manually switch between DSL and EVDO >>> routers, I switch the IP addresses so that the active device is always >>> at the same address. This allows the connected machines to access the >>> gateway without needing to hit the DHCP server. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Joe >>> >>> On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:37 PM, Paul McNett wrote: Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 13:37:31 -0700 From: Paul McNett To: profoxt...@leafe.com cc: Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup On 5/22/12 1:13 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: > I have been looking for a modem that connects to the Internet via DSL as > long as that service is up but then automatically switches to Dialup if > the DSL is down. I have had no luck finding that functionality in one > box. If someone knows of such a device I am all ears! I did this about 8 years ago using a Linux box and a python script. It kept both the high-speed and dialup links live as much as possible but when it detected a problem with the high-speed, it reset the priority of the dialup link in the routing table. Paul [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1337806646.19647.yahoomail...@web125606.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1337806933.22808.yahoomail...@web125601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Win XP Pro SP1 Version 2002
I have seen some pretty well-scratched CDs that still worked. Do you have another CD drive to test? Or another PC? - Original Message - From: "Ajoy Khaund" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:03 PM Subject: Re: Win XP Pro SP1 Version 2002 > Kurt you are right. > > The WinXp CD which I have is original. I had no problem for the last 8 > years. I must > have used it three times or so. My cd drive is about 12 years old so that > must have > spoilt the CD with use. > > If I had a pirated XP CD I would not have asked in this forum of which I > have been a member > for quite a no. of years. > > Anyway no hard feelings I hope. > > Thanks > > > > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote: > >> Nicholas - I think its possible you may be jumping to conclusions! I >> think Ajoy bought a legit copy of Windows. But, now that he has a >> problem - and its an OLD OS to begin with - now he has a serious problem >> trying to fix it. He simply brought up the fact that others within his >> country get illegal versions of SW - but, that does NOT mean that he >> did. >> >> Of course - Ajoy - feel free to jump in here - in case I have something >> wrong. (Although - considering where he is from - he is probably >> sleeping right now - while the rest of us are slaving away at work...) >> :-) >> >> -K- >> >> -Original Message- >> From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On >> Behalf Of Nicholas Geti >> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:26 PM >> >> Oh, I knew alright. I am amazed that this fellow said it explicitly. I >> am >> not about to send him any help. >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Kurt Wendt" >> To: "ProFox Email List" >> >> >> > Nicholas - you really don't know? >> > >> > I think it was a buddy of mine from Pakistan - told me he goes into >> > these stores - and you can get almost ANY SW - and they burn a copy >> onto >> > a CD for you - SUPER Cheap - and they even have Copies of books - and >> I >> > saw one - it was like a paper back book - a BIG book - but, the pages >> - >> > they were like Newspaper print! Really strange indeed. >> > >> > So - no - I don't think he means people steal it - but, rather - they >> > get it free or super cheap - but, in the end - its kinda the same >> thing. >> > Other countries don't have the same issue w/SW Piracy that we have >> here >> > in the USA (Not sure where you are located) - but, more and more ARE >> > Cracking down - even in China! >> > >> > And - of course - you know that Microsoft has a whole division that >> goes >> > on MAJOR Busts to stop trafficking of illegal SW - and they work with >> > the FBI and do Stings. I read about it a while ago - and I think there >> > were big Sting Ops going on at that time in Mexico! There exists >> REALLY >> > BIG Operations and money made in illegal software sales! >> > >> > -K- >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On >> > Behalf Of Nicholas Geti >> > >> > Are you needing a Windows Recovery CD or the Foxpro CD? >> > Do you mean everyone there is stealing the software? >> > >> [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/5796CD92FDB14C7EAA916E0E57536EC8@dual ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup
Satellite has issues with heavy rain, wind or snow. Here's a network 56k modem that might work. You might have to teach the users to manually connect, though http://www.buy.com/pr/product.aspx?sku=10249537&sellerid=18830977 From: Leland Jackson To: ProFox Email List Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup What about satellite internet? It might be reliable enough that you wouldn't need a dialup fallback. You could use Nagios to monitor services and have it notify you if anything goes down. http://www.nagios.org/ Regards, LelandJ On 05/23/2012 03:30 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: > Excellent! I should be able to figure the configuration out from that! > > Would you care to share or point to an example Python script? > > Thanks - Joe > > On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:20 PM, Paul McNett wrote: >> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 13:20:33 -0700 >> From: Paul McNett >> To: profoxt...@leafe.com >> cc: >> Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup >> >> The linux box I was talking about *was* the gateway, and had a static IP >> address of >> 10.0.0.1. The box had two network interfaces, eth0 with a dhcp-assigned >> address by >> the cable ISP, and ppp0 with a dhcp-assigned address by the dialup ISP. So >> client >> computers didn't need to change anything with their addresses, gateway, or >> routing >> tables. >> >> Paul >> >> >> On 5/23/12 1:15 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: >>> Paul, >>> >>> In my case I would not want the dialup to be active unless the DSL was >>> down as the Dialup modem will be connected to the fax line. In my >>> current configuration when I manually switch between DSL and EVDO >>> routers, I switch the IP addresses so that the active device is always >>> at the same address. This allows the connected machines to access the >>> gateway without needing to hit the DHCP server. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Joe >>> >>> On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:37 PM, Paul McNett wrote: Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 13:37:31 -0700 From: Paul McNett To: profoxt...@leafe.com cc: Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup On 5/22/12 1:13 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: > I have been looking for a modem that connects to the Internet via DSL as > long as that service is up but then automatically switches to Dialup if > the DSL is down. I have had no luck finding that functionality in one > box. If someone knows of such a device I am all ears! I did this about 8 years ago using a Linux box and a python script. It kept both the high-speed and dialup links live as much as possible but when it detected a problem with the high-speed, it reset the priority of the dialup link in the routing table. Paul [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1337806646.19647.yahoomail...@web125606.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup
What about satellite internet? It might be reliable enough that you wouldn't need a dialup fallback. You could use Nagios to monitor services and have it notify you if anything goes down. http://www.nagios.org/ Regards, LelandJ On 05/23/2012 03:30 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: > Excellent! I should be able to figure the configuration out from that! > > Would you care to share or point to an example Python script? > > Thanks - Joe > > On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:20 PM, Paul McNett wrote: >> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 13:20:33 -0700 >> From: Paul McNett >> To: profoxt...@leafe.com >> cc: >> Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup >> >> The linux box I was talking about *was* the gateway, and had a static IP >> address of >> 10.0.0.1. The box had two network interfaces, eth0 with a dhcp-assigned >> address by >> the cable ISP, and ppp0 with a dhcp-assigned address by the dialup ISP. So >> client >> computers didn't need to change anything with their addresses, gateway, or >> routing >> tables. >> >> Paul >> >> >> On 5/23/12 1:15 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: >>> Paul, >>> >>> In my case I would not want the dialup to be active unless the DSL was >>> down as the Dialup modem will be connected to the fax line. In my >>> current configuration when I manually switch between DSL and EVDO >>> routers, I switch the IP addresses so that the active device is always >>> at the same address. This allows the connected machines to access the >>> gateway without needing to hit the DHCP server. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Joe >>> >>> On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:37 PM, Paul McNett wrote: Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 13:37:31 -0700 From: Paul McNett To: profoxt...@leafe.com cc: Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup On 5/22/12 1:13 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: > I have been looking for a modem that connects to the Internet via DSL as > long as that service is up but then automatically switches to Dialup if > the DSL is down. I have had no luck finding that functionality in one > box. If someone knows of such a device I am all ears! I did this about 8 years ago using a Linux box and a python script. It kept both the high-speed and dialup links live as much as possible but when it detected a problem with the high-speed, it reset the priority of the dialup link in the routing table. Paul [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4fbd4db3.5040...@mail.smvfp.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup
I'm surprised there isn't a packaged product that does this. Seems a lot of people would need to do this. From: Paul McNett To: profox@leafe.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup Sorry, I don't have that anymore but basically write a cronjob to ping over the high-speed interface once a minute and if no response received switch over to the slow link. Paul On 5/23/12 1:30 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: > Excellent! I should be able to figure the configuration out from that! > > Would you care to share or point to an example Python script? > > Thanks - Joe > > On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:20 PM, Paul McNett wrote: >> >> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 13:20:33 -0700 >> From: Paul McNett >> To: profoxt...@leafe.com >> cc: >> Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup >> >> The linux box I was talking about *was* the gateway, and had a static IP >> address of >> 10.0.0.1. The box had two network interfaces, eth0 with a dhcp-assigned >> address by >> the cable ISP, and ppp0 with a dhcp-assigned address by the dialup ISP. So >> client >> computers didn't need to change anything with their addresses, gateway, or >> routing >> tables. >> >> Paul >> >> >> On 5/23/12 1:15 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: >>> Paul, >>> >>> In my case I would not want the dialup to be active unless the DSL was >>> down as the Dialup modem will be connected to the fax line. In my >>> current configuration when I manually switch between DSL and EVDO >>> routers, I switch the IP addresses so that the active device is always >>> at the same address. This allows the connected machines to access the >>> gateway without needing to hit the DHCP server. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Joe >>> >>> On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:37 PM, Paul McNett wrote: Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 13:37:31 -0700 From: Paul McNett To: profoxt...@leafe.com cc: Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup On 5/22/12 1:13 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: > I have been looking for a modem that connects to the Internet via DSL as > long as that service is up but then automatically switches to Dialup if > the DSL is down. I have had no luck finding that functionality in one > box. If someone knows of such a device I am all ears! I did this about 8 years ago using a Linux box and a python script. It kept both the high-speed and dialup links live as much as possible but when it detected a problem with the high-speed, it reset the priority of the dialup link in the routing table. >>>[excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1337805549.93843.yahoomail...@web125606.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Mailing List Manager
You're welcome From: Frank Cazabon To: profox@leafe.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [NF] Mailing List Manager Thanks Michael, I'll check it out Frank. Frank Cazabon On 23/05/2012 04:27 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: > There's also a service called "Constant Contact" which has pretty good > reviews. > > > > From: Frank Cazabon > To: profox@leafe.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:21 PM > Subject: Re: [NF] Mailing List Manager > > Thanks Matt, > > I've used 37Signals stuff before. I'll check them out. > > Frank. > > Frank Cazabon > > > > On 23/05/2012 11:41 AM, M Jarvis wrote: >> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 5:54 AM, Frank Cazabon >> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> a client of mine is looking for some software that will let them track >>> customer names, email, day& month of birth (some customers don't like >>> to give the year of birth), some customer preferences like preferred >>> items (this is a restaurant so they might want to track a particular >>> type of wine that this person enjoys), maybe spouse's or children's >>> birthdays and so on. >>> >>> They also want to be able to then send an email out to the entire list >>> on a regular basis. >> I don't have time to check it out more thoroughly at the moment, but I >> seem to recall one of the products from 37Signals (37signals.com) had >> a contact manager that would do something like that...[excessive quoting >> removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1337805482.89181.yahoomail...@web125606.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup
Sorry, I don't have that anymore but basically write a cronjob to ping over the high-speed interface once a minute and if no response received switch over to the slow link. Paul On 5/23/12 1:30 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: > Excellent! I should be able to figure the configuration out from that! > > Would you care to share or point to an example Python script? > > Thanks - Joe > > On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:20 PM, Paul McNett wrote: >> >> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 13:20:33 -0700 >> From: Paul McNett >> To: profoxt...@leafe.com >> cc: >> Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup >> >> The linux box I was talking about *was* the gateway, and had a static IP >> address of >> 10.0.0.1. The box had two network interfaces, eth0 with a dhcp-assigned >> address by >> the cable ISP, and ppp0 with a dhcp-assigned address by the dialup ISP. So >> client >> computers didn't need to change anything with their addresses, gateway, or >> routing >> tables. >> >> Paul >> >> >> On 5/23/12 1:15 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: >>> Paul, >>> >>> In my case I would not want the dialup to be active unless the DSL was >>> down as the Dialup modem will be connected to the fax line. In my >>> current configuration when I manually switch between DSL and EVDO >>> routers, I switch the IP addresses so that the active device is always >>> at the same address. This allows the connected machines to access the >>> gateway without needing to hit the DHCP server. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Joe >>> >>> On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:37 PM, Paul McNett wrote: Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 13:37:31 -0700 From: Paul McNett To: profoxt...@leafe.com cc: Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup On 5/22/12 1:13 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: > I have been looking for a modem that connects to the Internet via DSL as > long as that service is up but then automatically switches to Dialup if > the DSL is down. I have had no luck finding that functionality in one > box. If someone knows of such a device I am all ears! I did this about 8 years ago using a Linux box and a python script. It kept both the high-speed and dialup links live as much as possible but when it detected a problem with the high-speed, it reset the priority of the dialup link in the routing table. Paul [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4fbd4a86.5030...@ulmcnett.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Mailing List Manager
Thanks Michael, I'll check it out Frank. Frank Cazabon On 23/05/2012 04:27 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: > There's also a service called "Constant Contact" which has pretty good > reviews. > > > > From: Frank Cazabon > To: profox@leafe.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:21 PM > Subject: Re: [NF] Mailing List Manager > > Thanks Matt, > > I've used 37Signals stuff before. I'll check them out. > > Frank. > > Frank Cazabon > > > > On 23/05/2012 11:41 AM, M Jarvis wrote: >> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 5:54 AM, Frank Cazabon >> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> a client of mine is looking for some software that will let them track >>> customer names, email, day& month of birth (some customers don't like >>> to give the year of birth), some customer preferences like preferred >>> items (this is a restaurant so they might want to track a particular >>> type of wine that this person enjoys), maybe spouse's or children's >>> birthdays and so on. >>> >>> They also want to be able to then send an email out to the entire list >>> on a regular basis. >> I don't have time to check it out more thoroughly at the moment, but I >> seem to recall one of the products from 37Signals (37signals.com) had >> a contact manager that would do something like that... all web >> based... >> [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4fbd496a.2080...@gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Can't lie well enough or fast enough
"Generally speaking - I don't watch the news much." I can tell. From: Kurt Wendt To: ProFox Email List Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:44 PM Subject: RE: [OT] Can't lie well enough or fast enough Generally speaking - I don't watch the news much. Its almost always about death, killings, bombings and other Bad stuff. Hardly ever any Good news! When Bush got into office (of course part of the election was Fixed!) - and then we had to see him on TV - it was EMBARRASING! Our country had the nerve to put someone in the White House who sounded on TV - when he gave speeches - like a Southern HillBilly! Just the way he spoke. It was LUDICROUS! But, in the end - I don't think there was a Single time that people tried to put a case against him - and try to impeach him - like has been done to a number of our past Dem Presidents. I was glad to see a Pres. on TV again - who actually sounded Intelligent when he spoke to our country - even though I know you and Pete totally Hate Obama! Of course, if somehow Hillary had won - you both would have Basher her just as much! Yet - if that Idiot woman from Alaska had gotten into office - you both probably would have thought she was the GREATEST Thing since Sliced Bread!!! :-) -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:21 PM I guess you weren't conscious for the Anti-Bush bashing from 2000 - 20012? ___ From: Kurt Wendt To: ProFox Email List Excellent response there Ricardo - Touche! I actually changed my subscription to the list a few days back - so I can see the [OT] communications. However, so far I find it frustrating since it seems about the ONLY Topic on here is Obama Bashing - as well as Bashing of Dem's! Which is a really sad state of affairs. Its one of the reasons I hate to get involved with political discussions. It seems that EVERY DAMNED Time a Dem gets to be President - the ENTIRE Time the Rep's keep trying to Bash the Pres. - and the Dem Pres can NEVER Do right! And, they always try and TRY to get the Dem thrown out of office. Yet - when there is a Rep in the Oval Office - I do NOT Seem to see that occurring quite as much. Of course - the problems are even deeper - with all the Damned Lobbyists in Washington - and ALL of them being BOUGHT OUT by the Highest CORPORATE Bidder! No wonder our Darned Country is in such a DAMNED Sad State! Well - that's my 2 cents... I will probably just go back and change my subscription - since this darned [OT] just looks too Damned Depressing! -K- -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Araoz Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:33 PM On 22/05/12 16:12, Michael Madigan wrote: > Anybody who votes for Obama a second time is a MORON. > And what's YOUR excuse? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/289ea162f5642645b5cf64d624c66a140e260...@us-ny-mail-002.waitex.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1337805063.48536.yahoomail...@web125604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup
Excellent! I should be able to figure the configuration out from that! Would you care to share or point to an example Python script? Thanks - Joe On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:20 PM, Paul McNett wrote: > >Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 13:20:33 -0700 >From: Paul McNett >To: profoxt...@leafe.com >cc: >Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup > >The linux box I was talking about *was* the gateway, and had a static IP >address of >10.0.0.1. The box had two network interfaces, eth0 with a dhcp-assigned >address by >the cable ISP, and ppp0 with a dhcp-assigned address by the dialup ISP. So >client >computers didn't need to change anything with their addresses, gateway, or >routing >tables. > >Paul > > >On 5/23/12 1:15 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: >> Paul, >> >> In my case I would not want the dialup to be active unless the DSL was >> down as the Dialup modem will be connected to the fax line. In my >> current configuration when I manually switch between DSL and EVDO >> routers, I switch the IP addresses so that the active device is always >> at the same address. This allows the connected machines to access the >> gateway without needing to hit the DHCP server. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Joe >> >> On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:37 PM, Paul McNett wrote: >>> >>> Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 13:37:31 -0700 >>> From: Paul McNett >>> To: profoxt...@leafe.com >>> cc: >>> Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup >>> >>> On 5/22/12 1:13 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: I have been looking for a modem that connects to the Internet via DSL as long as that service is up but then automatically switches to Dialup if the DSL is down. I have had no luck finding that functionality in one box. If someone knows of such a device I am all ears! >>> >>> I did this about 8 years ago using a Linux box and a python script. It kept >>> both the >>> high-speed and dialup links live as much as possible but when it detected a >>> problem >>> with the high-speed, it reset the priority of the dialup link in the >>> routing table. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4fbd48d4.c46a320a.4163.a...@mx.google.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Mailing List Manager
There's also a service called "Constant Contact" which has pretty good reviews. From: Frank Cazabon To: profox@leafe.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [NF] Mailing List Manager Thanks Matt, I've used 37Signals stuff before. I'll check them out. Frank. Frank Cazabon On 23/05/2012 11:41 AM, M Jarvis wrote: > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 5:54 AM, Frank Cazabon > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> a client of mine is looking for some software that will let them track >> customer names, email, day& month of birth (some customers don't like >> to give the year of birth), some customer preferences like preferred >> items (this is a restaurant so they might want to track a particular >> type of wine that this person enjoys), maybe spouse's or children's >> birthdays and so on. >> >> They also want to be able to then send an email out to the entire list >> on a regular basis. > I don't have time to check it out more thoroughly at the moment, but I > seem to recall one of the products from 37Signals (37signals.com) had > a contact manager that would do something like that... all web > based... > ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4fbd2aba.2060...@gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1337804869.54617.yahoomail...@web125602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup
The linux box I was talking about *was* the gateway, and had a static IP address of 10.0.0.1. The box had two network interfaces, eth0 with a dhcp-assigned address by the cable ISP, and ppp0 with a dhcp-assigned address by the dialup ISP. So client computers didn't need to change anything with their addresses, gateway, or routing tables. Paul On 5/23/12 1:15 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: > Paul, > > In my case I would not want the dialup to be active unless the DSL was > down as the Dialup modem will be connected to the fax line. In my > current configuration when I manually switch between DSL and EVDO > routers, I switch the IP addresses so that the active device is always > at the same address. This allows the connected machines to access the > gateway without needing to hit the DHCP server. > > Thanks, > > Joe > > On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:37 PM, Paul McNett wrote: >> >> Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 13:37:31 -0700 >> From: Paul McNett >> To: profoxt...@leafe.com >> cc: >> Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup >> >> On 5/22/12 1:13 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: >>> I have been looking for a modem that connects to the Internet via DSL as >>> long as that service is up but then automatically switches to Dialup if the >>> DSL is down. I have had no luck finding that functionality in one box. If >>> someone knows of such a device I am all ears! >> >> I did this about 8 years ago using a Linux box and a python script. It kept >> both the >> high-speed and dialup links live as much as possible but when it detected a >> problem >> with the high-speed, it reset the priority of the dialup link in the routing >> table. >> >> Paul >> >> [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4fbd4691.9070...@ulmcnett.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup
Cradlepoint is wireless aircard router for LAN's that might be an option as a backup. Rick Q quilh...@gmail.com On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: > I have been looking for a modem that connects to the Internet via DSL as > long as that service is up but then automatically switches to Dialup if the > DSL is down. I have had no luck finding that functionality in one box. If > someone knows of such a device I am all ears! > > Thanks in advance, > > Joe > > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > multipart/alternative > text/plain (text body -- kept) > text/html > --- > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cadazp2nhjfrp1hz4tlzcrsr6ianzqbjqk56auft7euq2tve...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup
Paul, In my case I would not want the dialup to be active unless the DSL was down as the Dialup modem will be connected to the fax line. In my current configuration when I manually switch between DSL and EVDO routers, I switch the IP addresses so that the active device is always at the same address. This allows the connected machines to access the gateway without needing to hit the DHCP server. Thanks, Joe On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:37 PM, Paul McNett wrote: > >Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 13:37:31 -0700 >From: Paul McNett >To: profoxt...@leafe.com >cc: >Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup > >On 5/22/12 1:13 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: >> I have been looking for a modem that connects to the Internet via DSL as >> long as that service is up but then automatically switches to Dialup if the >> DSL is down. I have had no luck finding that functionality in one box. If >> someone knows of such a device I am all ears! > >I did this about 8 years ago using a Linux box and a python script. It kept >both the >high-speed and dialup links live as much as possible but when it detected a >problem >with the high-speed, it reset the priority of the dialup link in the routing >table. > >Paul > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4fbd458c.e55b320a.1227.9...@mx.google.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup
I wish I had that option! This is a retreat center in the woods with DSl and EVDO from a cell tower or satellite as the only high speed options. -Joe On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:06 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: > >Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 14:06:36 -0700 (PDT) >From: Michael Madigan >To: profoxt...@leafe.com >cc: >Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup > >I wouldn't use DSL and Dialup because they probably come in on the same phone >line. I would use dial-up and a cable Internet service. > > >- Original Message - >From: Paul McNett >To: profox@leafe.com >Cc: >Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:37 PM >Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup > >On 5/22/12 1:13 PM, Joe Yoder wrote: >> I have been looking for a modem that connects to the Internet via DSL as >> long as that service is up but then automatically switches to Dialup if the >> DSL is down. I have had no luck finding that functionality in one box. If >> someone knows of such a device I am all ears! > >I did this about 8 years ago using a Linux box and a python script. It kept >both the >high-speed and dialup links live as much as possible but when it detected a >problem >with the high-speed, it reset the priority of the dialup link in the routing >table. > >Paul > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4fbd4335.864c320a.7119.a...@mx.google.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup
I checked it out and learned that the device uses ISDN which is no longer available in the United States so I guess your original take was accurate! I have a feeling that the best way to handle this is with Linux. I'd like to handle it in a box without rotating parts but it should be compatible with the FOG server I have running 24/7. Can someone recommend a resource to help a Linux neophyte put this together? TIA - Joe On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:35 PM, Alan Bourke wrote: > >Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 21:35:53 +0100 >From: Alan Bourke >To: profoxt...@leafe.com >cc: >Subject: Re: [NF] Fail safe Internet using DSL and Dialup > >I am amazed that such a thing exists in one box, but apparently it does: > >http://www.draytek.co.uk/products/vigor2820.html >-- > Alan Bourke > alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4fbd4334.864c320a.7119.a...@mx.google.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Cascading Windows
Jeff Johnson wrote on 2012-05-23: > > Tracy: This worked great! I have never used these but will definitely > in the future! I created top_assign and left_assign and VFP adds some > code which makes their function obvious. I set them to 0 and it does > what I want. I also made the "menu" form alwaysonbottom so it would not > be included in the cascade. > > Thanks!!! > > Jeff > Jeff, You're welcome. Tracy Pearson PowerChurch Software ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/000b01cd391e$f6004f70$e200ee50$@powerchurch.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Win XP Pro SP1 Version 2002
He already did call them - and they told him to take a long walk off a Short Pier - since they don't support it anymore! :-( -K- -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of John Harvey Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:21 PM Call MS tech support and see if you can get a replacement cd. John -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ajoy Khaund Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:04 PM Kurt you are right. The WinXp CD which I have is original. I had no problem for the last 8 years. I must have used it three times or so. My cd drive is about 12 years old so that must have spoilt the CD with use. If I had a pirated XP CD I would not have asked in this forum of which I have been a member for quite a no. of years. Anyway no hard feelings I hope. Thanks On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote: > Nicholas - I think its possible you may be jumping to conclusions! I > think Ajoy bought a legit copy of Windows. But, now that he has a > problem - and its an OLD OS to begin with - now he has a serious > problem trying to fix it. He simply brought up the fact that others > within his country get illegal versions of SW - but, that does NOT > mean that he did. > > Of course - Ajoy - feel free to jump in here - in case I have > something wrong. (Although - considering where he is from - he is > probably sleeping right now - while the rest of us are slaving away at > work...) > :-) > -K- > > -Original Message- > From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On > Behalf Of Nicholas Geti > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:26 PM > Oh, I knew alright. I am amazed that this fellow said it explicitly. I > am not about to send him any help. > > - Original Message - > From: "Kurt Wendt" > To: "ProFox Email List" > > > > Nicholas - you really don't know? > > > > I think it was a buddy of mine from Pakistan - told me he goes into > > these stores - and you can get almost ANY SW - and they burn a copy > onto > > a CD for you - SUPER Cheap - and they even have Copies of books - > > and > I > > saw one - it was like a paper back book - a BIG book - but, the > > pages > - > > they were like Newspaper print! Really strange indeed. > > > > So - no - I don't think he means people steal it - but, rather - > > they get it free or super cheap - but, in the end - its kinda the > > same > thing. > > Other countries don't have the same issue w/SW Piracy that we have > here > > in the USA (Not sure where you are located) - but, more and more ARE > > Cracking down - even in China! > > > > And - of course - you know that Microsoft has a whole division that > goes > > on MAJOR Busts to stop trafficking of illegal SW - and they work > > with the FBI and do Stings. I read about it a while ago - and I > > think there were big Sting Ops going on at that time in Mexico! > > There exists > REALLY > > BIG Operations and money made in illegal software sales! > > -K- > > > > -Original Message- > > From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On > > Behalf Of Nicholas Geti > > > > Are you needing a Windows Recovery CD or the Foxpro CD? > > Do you mean everyone there is stealing the software? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/289ea162f5642645b5cf64d624c66a140e260...@us-ny-mail-002.waitex.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Mailing List Manager
Thanks Matt, I've used 37Signals stuff before. I'll check them out. Frank. Frank Cazabon On 23/05/2012 11:41 AM, M Jarvis wrote: > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 5:54 AM, Frank Cazabon > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> a client of mine is looking for some software that will let them track >> customer names, email, day& month of birth (some customers don't like >> to give the year of birth), some customer preferences like preferred >> items (this is a restaurant so they might want to track a particular >> type of wine that this person enjoys), maybe spouse's or children's >> birthdays and so on. >> >> They also want to be able to then send an email out to the entire list >> on a regular basis. > I don't have time to check it out more thoroughly at the moment, but I > seem to recall one of the products from 37Signals (37signals.com) had > a contact manager that would do something like that... all web > based... > ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4fbd2aba.2060...@gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Win XP Pro SP1 Version 2002
Call MS tech support and see if you can get a replacement cd. John -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ajoy Khaund Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:04 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: Win XP Pro SP1 Version 2002 Kurt you are right. The WinXp CD which I have is original. I had no problem for the last 8 years. I must have used it three times or so. My cd drive is about 12 years old so that must have spoilt the CD with use. If I had a pirated XP CD I would not have asked in this forum of which I have been a member for quite a no. of years. Anyway no hard feelings I hope. Thanks On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote: > Nicholas - I think its possible you may be jumping to conclusions! I > think Ajoy bought a legit copy of Windows. But, now that he has a > problem - and its an OLD OS to begin with - now he has a serious > problem trying to fix it. He simply brought up the fact that others > within his country get illegal versions of SW - but, that does NOT > mean that he did. > > Of course - Ajoy - feel free to jump in here - in case I have > something wrong. (Although - considering where he is from - he is > probably sleeping right now - while the rest of us are slaving away at > work...) > :-) > > -K- > > -Original Message- > From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On > Behalf Of Nicholas Geti > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:26 PM > > Oh, I knew alright. I am amazed that this fellow said it explicitly. I > am not about to send him any help. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Kurt Wendt" > To: "ProFox Email List" > > > > Nicholas - you really don't know? > > > > I think it was a buddy of mine from Pakistan - told me he goes into > > these stores - and you can get almost ANY SW - and they burn a copy > onto > > a CD for you - SUPER Cheap - and they even have Copies of books - > > and > I > > saw one - it was like a paper back book - a BIG book - but, the > > pages > - > > they were like Newspaper print! Really strange indeed. > > > > So - no - I don't think he means people steal it - but, rather - > > they get it free or super cheap - but, in the end - its kinda the > > same > thing. > > Other countries don't have the same issue w/SW Piracy that we have > here > > in the USA (Not sure where you are located) - but, more and more ARE > > Cracking down - even in China! > > > > And - of course - you know that Microsoft has a whole division that > goes > > on MAJOR Busts to stop trafficking of illegal SW - and they work > > with the FBI and do Stings. I read about it a while ago - and I > > think there were big Sting Ops going on at that time in Mexico! > > There exists > REALLY > > BIG Operations and money made in illegal software sales! > > > > -K- > > > > -Original Message- > > From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On > > Behalf Of Nicholas Geti > > > > Are you needing a Windows Recovery CD or the Foxpro CD? > > Do you mean everyone there is stealing the software? > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/025301cd3910$cde8f9f0$69baedd0$@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Cascading Windows
On 05/23/2012 10:22 AM, Tracy Pearson wrote: > Jeff Johnson wrote on 2012-05-23: >> I have a "menu" form that I want docked in the upper left hand corner of >> the screen all the time. When I cascade windows it includes it with the >> rest of the open windows. I put a top, left = 0 in the refresh, but >> that only works when I refresh the form and not when the forms are >> cascaded. Is there an event in the form or some way I can prevent one >> form from participating in the "arrange all" and "cascade" functions? >> >> TIA > Jeff, > > You can probably add an top_assign method to capture when top changes. > Maybe even left_assign too and always assign them to 0. > > Tracy Pearson > PowerChurch Software Tracy: This worked great! I have never used these but will definitely in the future! I created top_assign and left_assign and VFP adds some code which makes their function obvious. I set them to 0 and it does what I want. I also made the "menu" form alwaysonbottom so it would not be included in the cascade. Thanks!!! Jeff --- Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com (623) 582-0323 www.san-dc.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4fbd27fc.9010...@san-dc.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Win XP Pro SP1 Version 2002
Kurt you are right. The WinXp CD which I have is original. I had no problem for the last 8 years. I must have used it three times or so. My cd drive is about 12 years old so that must have spoilt the CD with use. If I had a pirated XP CD I would not have asked in this forum of which I have been a member for quite a no. of years. Anyway no hard feelings I hope. Thanks On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote: > Nicholas - I think its possible you may be jumping to conclusions! I > think Ajoy bought a legit copy of Windows. But, now that he has a > problem - and its an OLD OS to begin with - now he has a serious problem > trying to fix it. He simply brought up the fact that others within his > country get illegal versions of SW - but, that does NOT mean that he > did. > > Of course - Ajoy - feel free to jump in here - in case I have something > wrong. (Although - considering where he is from - he is probably > sleeping right now - while the rest of us are slaving away at work...) > :-) > > -K- > > -Original Message- > From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On > Behalf Of Nicholas Geti > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:26 PM > > Oh, I knew alright. I am amazed that this fellow said it explicitly. I > am > not about to send him any help. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Kurt Wendt" > To: "ProFox Email List" > > > > Nicholas - you really don't know? > > > > I think it was a buddy of mine from Pakistan - told me he goes into > > these stores - and you can get almost ANY SW - and they burn a copy > onto > > a CD for you - SUPER Cheap - and they even have Copies of books - and > I > > saw one - it was like a paper back book - a BIG book - but, the pages > - > > they were like Newspaper print! Really strange indeed. > > > > So - no - I don't think he means people steal it - but, rather - they > > get it free or super cheap - but, in the end - its kinda the same > thing. > > Other countries don't have the same issue w/SW Piracy that we have > here > > in the USA (Not sure where you are located) - but, more and more ARE > > Cracking down - even in China! > > > > And - of course - you know that Microsoft has a whole division that > goes > > on MAJOR Busts to stop trafficking of illegal SW - and they work with > > the FBI and do Stings. I read about it a while ago - and I think there > > were big Sting Ops going on at that time in Mexico! There exists > REALLY > > BIG Operations and money made in illegal software sales! > > > > -K- > > > > -Original Message- > > From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On > > Behalf Of Nicholas Geti > > > > Are you needing a Windows Recovery CD or the Foxpro CD? > > Do you mean everyone there is stealing the software? > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/caps4rvwtiwzjhnmgt6re+wgs6c6and4jkx2cunyqsajufnv...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Cascading Windows
Tracy: Thanks but movable only prevents the user from moving the form. Cascading still moves it. Jeff --- Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com (623) 582-0323 www.san-dc.com On 05/23/2012 10:37 AM, Tracy Pearson wrote: > It crossed my mind, doesn't the form have a movable property? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4fbd25df.5010...@san-dc.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Can't lie well enough or fast enough
Generally speaking - I don't watch the news much. Its almost always about death, killings, bombings and other Bad stuff. Hardly ever any Good news! When Bush got into office (of course part of the election was Fixed!) - and then we had to see him on TV - it was EMBARRASING! Our country had the nerve to put someone in the White House who sounded on TV - when he gave speeches - like a Southern HillBilly! Just the way he spoke. It was LUDICROUS! But, in the end - I don't think there was a Single time that people tried to put a case against him - and try to impeach him - like has been done to a number of our past Dem Presidents. I was glad to see a Pres. on TV again - who actually sounded Intelligent when he spoke to our country - even though I know you and Pete totally Hate Obama! Of course, if somehow Hillary had won - you both would have Basher her just as much! Yet - if that Idiot woman from Alaska had gotten into office - you both probably would have thought she was the GREATEST Thing since Sliced Bread!!! :-) -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:21 PM I guess you weren't conscious for the Anti-Bush bashing from 2000 - 20012? ___ From: Kurt Wendt To: ProFox Email List Excellent response there Ricardo - Touche! I actually changed my subscription to the list a few days back - so I can see the [OT] communications. However, so far I find it frustrating since it seems about the ONLY Topic on here is Obama Bashing - as well as Bashing of Dem's! Which is a really sad state of affairs. Its one of the reasons I hate to get involved with political discussions. It seems that EVERY DAMNED Time a Dem gets to be President - the ENTIRE Time the Rep's keep trying to Bash the Pres. - and the Dem Pres can NEVER Do right! And, they always try and TRY to get the Dem thrown out of office. Yet - when there is a Rep in the Oval Office - I do NOT Seem to see that occurring quite as much. Of course - the problems are even deeper - with all the Damned Lobbyists in Washington - and ALL of them being BOUGHT OUT by the Highest CORPORATE Bidder! No wonder our Darned Country is in such a DAMNED Sad State! Well - that's my 2 cents... I will probably just go back and change my subscription - since this darned [OT] just looks too Damned Depressing! -K- -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Araoz Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:33 PM On 22/05/12 16:12, Michael Madigan wrote: > Anybody who votes for Obama a second time is a MORON. > And what's YOUR excuse? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/289ea162f5642645b5cf64d624c66a140e260...@us-ny-mail-002.waitex.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Cascading Windows
It crossed my mind, doesn't the form have a movable property? -- Tracy Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/a52d2a2c-b487-48a2-94e5-06a479c8d...@email.android.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Windows XP Windows Updates that seem to get applied, but apparently don't
On 5/23/12 6:50 AM, Ted Roche wrote: > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: >> >> Don't tell anyone, but I secretly enjoy all that Linux tinkering. > > We'll just make it our little secret (*wink*). I like tinkering, period. I appreciate using an open system than not only allows, but actively encourages, tinkering. Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4fbd1d4d.1040...@ulmcnett.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Cascading Windows
Jeff Johnson wrote on 2012-05-23: > I have a "menu" form that I want docked in the upper left hand corner of > the screen all the time. When I cascade windows it includes it with the > rest of the open windows. I put a top, left = 0 in the refresh, but > that only works when I refresh the form and not when the forms are > cascaded. Is there an event in the form or some way I can prevent one > form from participating in the "arrange all" and "cascade" functions? > > TIA Jeff, You can probably add an top_assign method to capture when top changes. Maybe even left_assign too and always assign them to 0. Tracy Pearson PowerChurch Software ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/000101cd3908$aefcff30$0cf6fd90$@powerchurch.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Can't lie well enough or fast enough
I guess you weren't conscious for the Anti-Bush bashing from 2000 - 20012? From: Kurt Wendt To: ProFox Email List Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:08 AM Subject: RE: [OT] Can't lie well enough or fast enough Excellent response there Ricardo - Touche! I actually changed my subscription to the list a few days back - so I can see the [OT] communications. However, so far I find it frustrating since it seems about the ONLY Topic on here is Obama Bashing - as well as Bashing of Dem's! Which is a really sad state of affairs. Its one of the reasons I hate to get involved with political discussions. It seems that EVERY DAMNED Time a Dem gets to be President - the ENTIRE Time the Rep's keep trying to Bash the Pres. - and the Dem Pres can NEVER Do right! And, they always try and TRY to get the Dem thrown out of office. Yet - when there is a Rep in the Oval Office - I do NOT Seem to see that occurring quite as much. Of course - the problems are even deeper - with all the Damned Lobbyists in Washington - and ALL of them being BOUGHT OUT by the Highest CORPORATE Bidder! No wonder our Darned Country is in such a DAMNED Sad State! Well - that's my 2 cents... I will probably just go back and change my subscription - since this darned [OT] just looks too Damned Depressing! -K- -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Araoz Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:33 PM On 22/05/12 16:12, Michael Madigan wrote: > Anybody who votes for Obama a second time is a MORON. > And what's YOUR excuse? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/289ea162f5642645b5cf64d624c66a140e260...@us-ny-mail-002.waitex.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1337793635.38185.yahoomail...@web125605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Cascading Windows
I have a "menu" form that I want docked in the upper left hand corner of the screen all the time. When I cascade windows it includes it with the rest of the open windows. I put a top, left = 0 in the refresh, but that only works when I refresh the form and not when the forms are cascaded. Is there an event in the form or some way I can prevent one form from participating in the "arrange all" and "cascade" functions? TIA -- Jeff --- Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com (623) 582-0323 www.san-dc.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4fbd1a64.50...@san-dc.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Mailing List Manager
Darn it Jeff - I should have made that suggestion! I've actually been using it for several years now - for a mailing list for my Gallery - but, more so for e-mailing to our local NYC 3DS Max user group. Although, I haven't even been doing that for several months now - since there was a Coup - and the group was taken over by this guy - and he's now running the show - and doing all the e-mail blasts - as well as controlling EVERY Other aspect of the group. But, alas - I digress... -K- -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Frank Cazabon Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 9:39 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Mailing List Manager Thanks Jeff Frank. Frank Cazabon On 23/05/2012 09:25 AM, Jeff Johnson wrote: > Check out Mail Chimp. > http://mailchimp.com/ > Jeff > > > On 05/23/2012 05:54 AM, Frank Cazabon wrote: >> Hi, >> >> a client of mine is looking for some software that will let them track >> customer names, email, day& month of birth (some customers don't like >> to give the year of birth), some customer preferences like preferred >> items (this is a restaurant so they might want to track a particular >> type of wine that this person enjoys), maybe spouse's or children's >> birthdays and so on. >> >> They also want to be able to then send an email out to the entire list >> on a regular basis. >> >> I assume there must be systems out there that are web based (so the >> restaurant can put the info in and the back office located elsewhere can >> manage the sending of the emails). Anyone have any recommendations? >> >> So far I've found phplist and mailing-manager.com that look like >> possibilities ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/289ea162f5642645b5cf64d624c66a140e260...@us-ny-mail-002.waitex.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Mailing List Manager
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 5:54 AM, Frank Cazabon wrote: > Hi, > > a client of mine is looking for some software that will let them track > customer names, email, day & month of birth (some customers don't like > to give the year of birth), some customer preferences like preferred > items (this is a restaurant so they might want to track a particular > type of wine that this person enjoys), maybe spouse's or children's > birthdays and so on. > > They also want to be able to then send an email out to the entire list > on a regular basis. I don't have time to check it out more thoroughly at the moment, but I seem to recall one of the products from 37Signals (37signals.com) had a contact manager that would do something like that... all web based... -- Matt Jarvis Eugene, Oregon USA ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/capt54rawo2kxzvjozgk+pbrfd8hmkmqumcxfp9uzx7em2_w...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Don't go to Google.com today, unless you don't have any workto do...
Well, thanks; no more work for me today. Lol I spent a LOT of time programming Roland synthesizers back in my younger days. I miss those days of sitting in front of a keyboard, a rack of synthesizers and a 32-channel mixer all weekend long... I think I still have a 5 1/4" disk with the original version of Cakewalk from 1988 or so... Lou -Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Wendt By the way - a couple of days ago I set my subscription so I can receive [OT] messages - otherwise I would never have seen this message. However, I think it really should have been labeled [NF] - since its Definitely Tech related! As such, I just switched it in the Subject - so others can see it... -K- -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Vincent Teachout Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 8:21 AM title says it all ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/0bac2c1927422843b2c121c8b41684af1eeb9...@dfw1mbx24.mex07a.mlsrvr.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Win XP Pro SP1 Version 2002
Nicholas - I think its possible you may be jumping to conclusions! I think Ajoy bought a legit copy of Windows. But, now that he has a problem - and its an OLD OS to begin with - now he has a serious problem trying to fix it. He simply brought up the fact that others within his country get illegal versions of SW - but, that does NOT mean that he did. Of course - Ajoy - feel free to jump in here - in case I have something wrong. (Although - considering where he is from - he is probably sleeping right now - while the rest of us are slaving away at work...) :-) -K- -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Nicholas Geti Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:26 PM Oh, I knew alright. I am amazed that this fellow said it explicitly. I am not about to send him any help. - Original Message - From: "Kurt Wendt" To: "ProFox Email List" > Nicholas - you really don't know? > > I think it was a buddy of mine from Pakistan - told me he goes into > these stores - and you can get almost ANY SW - and they burn a copy onto > a CD for you - SUPER Cheap - and they even have Copies of books - and I > saw one - it was like a paper back book - a BIG book - but, the pages - > they were like Newspaper print! Really strange indeed. > > So - no - I don't think he means people steal it - but, rather - they > get it free or super cheap - but, in the end - its kinda the same thing. > Other countries don't have the same issue w/SW Piracy that we have here > in the USA (Not sure where you are located) - but, more and more ARE > Cracking down - even in China! > > And - of course - you know that Microsoft has a whole division that goes > on MAJOR Busts to stop trafficking of illegal SW - and they work with > the FBI and do Stings. I read about it a while ago - and I think there > were big Sting Ops going on at that time in Mexico! There exists REALLY > BIG Operations and money made in illegal software sales! > > -K- > > -Original Message- > From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On > Behalf Of Nicholas Geti > > Are you needing a Windows Recovery CD or the Foxpro CD? > Do you mean everyone there is stealing the software? > ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/289ea162f5642645b5cf64d624c66a140e260...@us-ny-mail-002.waitex.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Can't lie well enough or fast enough
Excellent response there Ricardo - Touche! I actually changed my subscription to the list a few days back - so I can see the [OT] communications. However, so far I find it frustrating since it seems about the ONLY Topic on here is Obama Bashing - as well as Bashing of Dem's! Which is a really sad state of affairs. Its one of the reasons I hate to get involved with political discussions. It seems that EVERY DAMNED Time a Dem gets to be President - the ENTIRE Time the Rep's keep trying to Bash the Pres. - and the Dem Pres can NEVER Do right! And, they always try and TRY to get the Dem thrown out of office. Yet - when there is a Rep in the Oval Office - I do NOT Seem to see that occurring quite as much. Of course - the problems are even deeper - with all the Damned Lobbyists in Washington - and ALL of them being BOUGHT OUT by the Highest CORPORATE Bidder! No wonder our Darned Country is in such a DAMNED Sad State! Well - that's my 2 cents... I will probably just go back and change my subscription - since this darned [OT] just looks too Damned Depressing! -K- -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Araoz Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:33 PM On 22/05/12 16:12, Michael Madigan wrote: > Anybody who votes for Obama a second time is a MORON. > And what's YOUR excuse? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/289ea162f5642645b5cf64d624c66a140e260...@us-ny-mail-002.waitex.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Don't go to Google.com today, unless you don't have any workto do...
By the way - a couple of days ago I set my subscription so I can receive [OT] messages - otherwise I would never have seen this message. However, I think it really should have been labeled [NF] - since its Definitely Tech related! As such, I just switched it in the Subject - so others can see it... -K- -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Vincent Teachout Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 8:21 AM title says it all ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/289ea162f5642645b5cf64d624c66a140e260...@us-ny-mail-002.waitex.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Don't go to Google.com today, unless you don't have any workto do...
Oh man - that ROCKS! Very cool what they did. I actually met a guy on Long Island a good number of years ago. Not sure how I connected up with him. But, he was like an early partner w/the Moog guy - and so, he actually had REALLY Early Moog instruments - like Originals. And, he showed me a bunch of them. It was very wild. And, yes - its true - you could probably spend hours playing with the Google homepage today - although - so far - I only spent a couple of minutes... -K- -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Vincent Teachout Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 8:21 AM title says it all ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/289ea162f5642645b5cf64d624c66a140e260...@us-ny-mail-002.waitex.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Windows XP Windows Updates that seem to get applied, but apparently don't
You must be into MS to like VIM... A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CAPqLOBxyau=r-3sxkfevjf5a7pfeoelcotluck+i4cscf5e...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Windows XP Windows Updates that seem to get applied, but apparently don't
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: > > Don't tell anyone, but I secretly enjoy all that Linux tinkering. We'll just make it our little secret (*wink*). -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CACW6n4vs=T3K51+ime1Y8OOHpYF2DFOCh12M+rJYx=mqsnp...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Windows XP Windows Updates that seem to get applied, but apparently don't
On Wed, May 23, 2012, at 09:27 AM, Ted Roche wrote: > Whine, whine, whine. Computers suck. We all know that. Don't tell anyone, but I secretly enjoy all that Linux tinkering. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1337780368.12773.140661079630729.68459...@webmail.messagingengine.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Mailing List Manager
Thanks Jeff Frank. Frank Cazabon On 23/05/2012 09:25 AM, Jeff Johnson wrote: > Check out Mail Chimp. > > http://mailchimp.com/ > > Jeff > > --- > > Jeff Johnson > j...@san-dc.com > (623) 582-0323 > > www.san-dc.com > > > On 05/23/2012 05:54 AM, Frank Cazabon wrote: >> Hi, >> >> a client of mine is looking for some software that will let them track >> customer names, email, day& month of birth (some customers don't like >> to give the year of birth), some customer preferences like preferred >> items (this is a restaurant so they might want to track a particular >> type of wine that this person enjoys), maybe spouse's or children's >> birthdays and so on. >> >> They also want to be able to then send an email out to the entire list >> on a regular basis. >> >> I assume there must be systems out there that are web based (so the >> restaurant can put the info in and the back office located elsewhere can >> manage the sending of the emails). Anyone have any recommendations? >> >> So far I've found phplist and mailing-manager.com that look like >> possibilities >> [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4fbce873.9030...@gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Windows XP Windows Updates that seem to get applied, but apparently don't
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 6:05 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: > > And no Linux distro ever has any issues ever, folks! You read it here > first. No hours spent on forums and Google trying to figure out why a > minor update of something seemingly unrelated stops your PostgresSQL > server from starting, no booting to a shell and trying to edit conf > files with some text editor with Vim-style commands because the GUI > won't start, no convoluted and torturous manual installation of > dependencies before installing some piece of software that isn't > packaged for your distro ... it's all sweetness and light outside the > Microsoft world! > > I use Ubuntu every day. Whine, whine, whine. Computers suck. We all know that. I ran Windows machines in SMB and Enterprise for 20 years. I've now done the same with Linux for 10. There's no question you can bollix up any machine that has power applied to it, regardless of OS. But I'm not switching back ;) And Vim rocks . -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CACW6n4uQ57=GYA=AOkVG4pNiOTUkEd_qUK5dAR2=nkja_yk...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Mailing List Manager
Check out Mail Chimp. http://mailchimp.com/ Jeff --- Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com (623) 582-0323 www.san-dc.com On 05/23/2012 05:54 AM, Frank Cazabon wrote: > Hi, > > a client of mine is looking for some software that will let them track > customer names, email, day& month of birth (some customers don't like > to give the year of birth), some customer preferences like preferred > items (this is a restaurant so they might want to track a particular > type of wine that this person enjoys), maybe spouse's or children's > birthdays and so on. > > They also want to be able to then send an email out to the entire list > on a regular basis. > > I assume there must be systems out there that are web based (so the > restaurant can put the info in and the back office located elsewhere can > manage the sending of the emails). Anyone have any recommendations? > > So far I've found phplist and mailing-manager.com that look like > possibilities > ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4fbce53b.10...@san-dc.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Mailing List Manager
Hi, a client of mine is looking for some software that will let them track customer names, email, day & month of birth (some customers don't like to give the year of birth), some customer preferences like preferred items (this is a restaurant so they might want to track a particular type of wine that this person enjoys), maybe spouse's or children's birthdays and so on. They also want to be able to then send an email out to the entire list on a regular basis. I assume there must be systems out there that are web based (so the restaurant can put the info in and the back office located elsewhere can manage the sending of the emails). Anyone have any recommendations? So far I've found phplist and mailing-manager.com that look like possibilities -- Frank. Frank Cazabon ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4fbcde1a.9020...@gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Windows XP Windows Updates that seem to get applied, but apparently don't
Alan Bourke wrote: > > On Wed, May 23, 2012, at 05:43 AM, Pete Theisen wrote: > >> Haven't had M$ problems since I switched to Linux . . . >> >> That's WHY I switched to Linux, M$. > > > And no Linux distro ever has any issues ever, folks! You read it here > first. No hours spent on forums and Google trying to figure out why a To be fair, he only said he hasn't had Microsoft problems since switching to Linux. :-) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4fbcdcf3.8070...@taconic.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Don't go to Google.com today, unless you don't have any work to do...
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Vincent Teachout wrote: > title says it all --- I thought that was everyday. ;-> I played with it myself as well before leaving for work. -- Stephen Russell Sr. Analyst Ring Container Technology Oakland TN 901.246-0159 cell ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cajidmykerjbxnshvi9sxqxfa5emvj1oxcb1lazk-h-ea1yu...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Don't go to Google.com today, unless you don't have any work to do...
lol A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CAPqLOBw2V5CbRPpBzoCc=16ji0lvblkc-amzv-a0cgmzbxg...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Don't go to Google.com today, unless you don't have any work to do...
title says it all ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4fbcd614.1020...@taconic.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Windows XP Windows Updates that seem to get applied, but apparently don't
> Haven't had M$ problems since I switched to Linux . . . > Amazing to say the least ! A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CAPqLOBwr5J94nOi0BbiKnH7Ane=wslryfqeu3obunr6ufi4...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Windows XP Windows Updates that seem to get applied, but apparently don't
On 05/23/2012 06:05 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: > > > On Wed, May 23, 2012, at 05:43 AM, Pete Theisen wrote: > >> >> Haven't had M$ problems since I switched to Linux . . . >> >> That's WHY I switched to Linux, M$. > > > And no Linux distro ever has any issues ever, folks! You read it here > first. No hours spent on forums and Google trying to figure out why a > minor update of something seemingly unrelated stops your PostgresSQL > server from starting, no booting to a shell and trying to edit conf > files with some text editor with Vim-style commands because the GUI > won't start, no convoluted and torturous manual installation of > dependencies before installing some piece of software that isn't > packaged for your distro ... it's all sweetness and light outside the > Microsoft world! > > I use Ubuntu every day. Hi Alan, I have heard of other people having those issues, but never have had any problems since switching to Ubuntu. Taking some classes with Fedora 16. Have not (personally) had trouble with Fedora 16 either. As you say, all sweetness and light . . . Have had some hardware issues, but . . . -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4fbcb8f9.10...@verizon.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Windows XP Windows Updates that seem to get applied, but apparently don't
On Wed, May 23, 2012, at 05:43 AM, Pete Theisen wrote: > > Haven't had M$ problems since I switched to Linux . . . > > That's WHY I switched to Linux, M$. And no Linux distro ever has any issues ever, folks! You read it here first. No hours spent on forums and Google trying to figure out why a minor update of something seemingly unrelated stops your PostgresSQL server from starting, no booting to a shell and trying to edit conf files with some text editor with Vim-style commands because the GUI won't start, no convoluted and torturous manual installation of dependencies before installing some piece of software that isn't packaged for your distro ... it's all sweetness and light outside the Microsoft world! I use Ubuntu every day. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1337767529.30775.140661079552433.0af5c...@webmail.messagingengine.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Windows XP Windows Updates that seem to get applied, but apparently don't
On 05/23/2012 03:26 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: > > > On Tue, May 22, 2012, at 05:36 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC > wrote: >> I'm figuring M$ must know > > Apparently Microsoft know. > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/23/windows_xp_dotnet_update_mess/ > Hi Guys, Haven't had M$ problems since I switched to Linux . . . That's WHY I switched to Linux, M$. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4fbcb132.7010...@verizon.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Windows XP Windows Updates that seem to get applied, but apparently don't
On Tue, May 22, 2012, at 05:36 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: > I'm figuring M$ must know Apparently Microsoft know. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/23/windows_xp_dotnet_update_mess/ -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1337757984.888.140661079506009.6d54a...@webmail.messagingengine.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
