[NF] Make Software Simple Again (like the Fox)

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https://shiftmag.dev/dhh-make-software-simple-again-3829/


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Re: It's been a long time...

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The previous Fox spot was called FoxShare?  I recall Darcy White and 
Adolf Santorine as that list's originators, iirc.


Long live the Fox!  ;-)


On 7/22/2024 9:31 AM, Ed Leafe wrote:

...since the first message posted to ProFox: exactly 25 years ago today!

https://leafe.com/archives/msg/1

It's amazing that something started as a temporary solution to a problem has 
proven to be so long-lived! And while only a handful of people post regularly, 
there are still 306 subscribers to the profox list, and 184 to the profoxtech 
list. So while the Fox might be dead, ProFox is still very much alive!


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Anybody else get this junk mail with the Fox icon?

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Screenshot:  https://app.screencast.com/bsTJKUFxMk5Cf

I found it interesting that it had the Fox head.  Coincidence? If others 
here got the same/similar email, I figured not such a coincidence.


(No, I didn't click their BS links!)


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Re: Southwest Fox 2023: URGENT - Now or never, register today

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What was the outcome?  I signed up late.


On 8/28/2023 7:16 AM, Rick Schummer wrote:

The fate of Southwest Fox is being decided Wednesday. Help us make the decision 
to keep this conference going easy. We
won't charge your credit card until September. There is no more time for you to 
procrastinate. It simply is now or
never.

If you are going to Southwest Fox this year (in-person or virtually), please 
head over to the registration Web site,
right now, before you forget: https://geekgatherings.com/Registration

Only 53 days until we hope to gather in Scottsdale!

Rick
White Light Computing, Inc.





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Re: Just call me Master, for short

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Congratulations, Vince!  Paul better give you a raise now!  lol


On 9/1/2023 2:32 PM, Ted Roche wrote:

Now the student becomes the Master.

Congratulations, Vince. That's a heck of an accomplishment!

(Pretty sure my last college course in computers was Fortran IV)

On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 1:19 PM Vincent Teachout  wrote:


And... Done!

Master of Science in Information Security.
https://www.parchment.com/u/award/f75a554cf48fd78bb2a872629841f08d


If you have any Science or Information Security that needs mastering, just let 
me know.




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Re: Chilkat Version 95 released yesterday

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No more "Dance Monkey Boy, Dance!" either.  (Thank God!)  I couldn't 
stand Ballmer.



On 8/9/2023 9:13 AM, Eric Selje wrote:

I was in Chicago for that massive Microsoft worldwide Windows 95 rollout.
Man, they don't announce Windows releases like that anymore!

On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 4:27 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:


"Version 95" -- when I saw that I heard the Rolling Stones tune "Start
Me Up" in my head.  (That was the rollout song used by M$ for Windows
95, iirc)

;-)


On 8/4/2023 2:18 PM, Bill Anderson wrote:

...for those that are interested.

ChilkatVFP has some version 95 methods/properties already in the latest
version, but that doesn't appear to be "enough" for a release. I have to
wait for the release notes to catch all the documented

changes/additions...

Bill Anderson


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Re: Chilkat Version 95 released yesterday

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"Version 95" -- when I saw that I heard the Rolling Stones tune "Start 
Me Up" in my head.  (That was the rollout song used by M$ for Windows 
95, iirc)


;-)


On 8/4/2023 2:18 PM, Bill Anderson wrote:

...for those that are interested.

ChilkatVFP has some version 95 methods/properties already in the latest
version, but that doesn't appear to be "enough" for a release. I have to
wait for the release notes to catch all the documented changes/additions...

Bill Anderson


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Re: Fox.wikis.com

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Did that work for you?  Because this is what I get for any search 
attempt:  https://app.screencast.com/nOmI0Y0m4cSvn



On 7/20/2023 11:02 AM, Jeff Roberts wrote:

Can't you get the entire thing read only like this:
https://web.archive.org/web/20220129162420/http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?wiki~VisualFoxProWiki

On Thu, Jul 20, 2023, 9:26 AM Man-wai Chang  wrote:


Turn on read-only or reader mode at least... nothing will be written
to FoxWiki then and no extra harm can be done..

On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 5:03 AM MB Software Solutions, LLC
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That's a real shame that it's still down.  http://fox.wikis.com/


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Fox.wikis.com

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That's a real shame that it's still down.  http://fox.wikis.com/


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Re: VFP Report Dynamics Tab Missing

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Yeah, those 2005 files are so oldyou need to new and improved 2007 
version!!!  LOL


(That's what year my Report*.app files are, anyway)


On 4/20/2023 5:27 PM, Frank Cazabon wrote:

Thanks

20 Apr 2023 17:20:29 Richard Kaye :


It's all on VFPX via Github.

https://github.com/VFPX/ReportingApps

From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Frank Cazabon
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2023 5:12 PM
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Subject: Re: VFP Report Dynamics Tab Missing

Thanks, those are correctly set. Hopefully it's just I have an old version of 
the report builder and I can find a newer one online

20 Apr 2023 17:06:35 Richard Kaye :


And that the various report-related system memvars are set properly, as well as 
REPORTBEHAVIOR to 90

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rk



From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Tracy 
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Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2023 4:56 PM
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Subject: RE: VFP Report Dynamics Tab Missing

Hi Frank,

My only thoughts is you need to be sure you have the updated Report*.app
files.

HTH,
Tracy

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Subject: VFP Report Dynamics Tab Missing

Hi,

I've got version 09.00..7423 and SET("ReportBehavior") = 90 yet when
I double click a report control on a report I don't see the Dynamics Tab
or the Advanced Tab. Windows 11 Pro 22H2

What am I doing wrong?

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Frank.

Frank Cazabon



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Re: VFP6 vs VFP9 query time on large table

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I'm just gonna throw out a WAG..  SET TABLEVALIDATE TO 0 in VFP9 and 
then re-test fresh.


On 1/17/2023 12:52 PM, Jeff Roberts wrote:

I have a large table, about 1.5GB with an index on invno which is a char 6.
Files are on a file server, client machine where I am running VFP6 and VFP9
is connected via gigabit ethernet.

I run SELECT * FROM invoicdt WHERE invno = '989426'
In VFP6 it takes about 6 seconds.
In VFP9 it takes about 60 seconds.
Anybody have any idea why it is so much slower in VFP9?


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Re: AW: fox.wikis.com

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I could swear that Steve Black blocked the IP address when the infamous 
JVP worked back in 2004/2005 (because I was there too and I distinctly 
recall I couldn't access it).  I guess with VPNs nowadays such an 
attempted block wouldn't be possible.



On 9/29/2022 4:50 AM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote:

See here: https://twitter.com/rschummer/status/1568592684910088195

That thread references stupid discussions similar to this one:
https://github.com/mattslay/GoFish/issues/14



-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: ProFox  Im Auftrag von Alan Bourke
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. September 2022 10:12
An: profoxt...@leafe.com
Betreff: fox.wikis.com

What's going on there then?


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Re: Document View magic inside a long PRG

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Nice caveat emptor!  ;-)

On 8/10/2022 11:31 AM, Tracy Pearson wrote:

It will, if the order of Document View is by Location. If it is by Name, or
Type it may not.

All is good here,
Tracy

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Subject: Document View magic inside a long PRG

Well, maybe not magic...and maybe many of you already knew thisbut
if you wondered "what method am I in right now?" whilst looking at a
super long section of code in a PRG, opening up Document View will
highlight the current method you're in.

Again...probably "nothing to see here...please disperse" but I thought
I'd share it in case somebody else wondered this.

Happy hump day!


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Document View magic inside a long PRG

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Well, maybe not magic...and maybe many of you already knew thisbut 
if you wondered "what method am I in right now?" whilst looking at a 
super long section of code in a PRG, opening up Document View will 
highlight the current method you're in.


Again...probably "nothing to see here...please disperse" but I thought 
I'd share it in case somebody else wondered this.


Happy hump day!

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Re: Need Help - Foxpro & Chilkat & Rest API

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that sounds like a great future Virtual FoxFest session, Bill!   
hint hint



On 8/1/2022 5:01 PM, Bill Anderson wrote:

Paul,

Well, I can report that the wrapper coding was finished over the weekend.

There's still lots to do. There's about a dozen classes to review and a
bunch of how-to-use documentation to write. But I've finally got my arms
fully around it. Took 7 months to put together.

It'sbig. The VCT is approaching 21MB, of which a vast majority is
Chilkat's own documentation.

I'd say "soon" but my development laptop is getting repaired and who knows
what'll happen there, etc. I'd guess it's about a month away.

Bill Anderson

On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 11:44 AM Paul H. Tarver  wrote:


Sounds very interesting. Do you have some ETA in mind for selling/releasing
the tool?

Paul H. Tarver
Tarver Program Consultants, Inc.

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Anderson
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2022 7:05 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Need Help - Foxpro & Chilkat & Rest API


A Foxpro wrapper would be too much to hope for, but that would be even

better if it is exists.<<

It exists, you haven't seen it yet. I'm working on a VFP tool that wraps
*everything* in the Chilkat library. Over halfway done. There's 103 classes
(1 deprecated) and I've wrapped maybe 61 of them?

I too experienced *exactly* what you experienced re: Chilkat. The upside -
They do document well. The downside? They document well. It's all on one
web page per class and hard to see the big picture. To their defense, I
don't necessarily have a better way to display such information on the web.

Rest is one of the classes I've wrapped, FWIW but that may not necessarily
help clarify your issue. If you think it might, just send me an email - or
I'll take a look at it.

If I complete the wrapping I may do something similar with their example
code.

Bill Anderson

On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 10:46 AM Paul H. Tarver  wrote:


I have a spec project where I need to build an application using a REST

API

to extract data elements and then post those data elements to a different
system. The API requires me to get a token upfront (which has a

five-minute

life span), issue my requests with the token and then get the results

back

in a JSON or XML format. Based on recommendations I received at the

Virtual

FoxFest earlier this year, I purchased the Chilkat tools and dove into

what

has turned out to be the deep end without knowing how to swim. The
documentation at Chilkat while extensive is almost too extensive for me

to

understand exactly what I've got to do to make this work.



So far, I've been unable to even get a token back. All I seem to be able

to

get back from the server is



400 Bad request

Your browser sent an invalid request.



That response has been less than helpful. I've reached out to the API
Provider but their answers are focused on requests issued after I get the
token.



My question is this: Does anyone have any sample Foxpro code they use for

a

similar process (Request a token, then make requests with the token)

using

the Chilkat tools they would be willing to share? A Foxpro wrapper would

be

too much to hope for, but that would be even better if it is exists. I've
got to get to a point where I'm beyond this initial stage to prove I can
make this work.



Help! I know this is possible, but so far, I'm not making much headway.



Paul H. Tarver
Tarver Program Consultants, Inc.







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Re: Last Chapter

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Now those coozies I would want!!!   ;-)

On 7/13/2022 5:39 PM, Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox) wrote:

I bet I could fit the main ones in a couple of Post Office fixed-rate
boxes, which are $21.50 each. Might get a better rate just mailing them at
the publication rate. I'll check next week. Still good?

I still have my Fox Software can coozies, though!

Ken

On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 4:52 PM Jeff Roberts  wrote:


I'd be interested in any of the beginner / general visual FoxPro stuff
including the vfp3. My experience has been the vfp3 stuff assumes no FoxPro
experience and the vfp6 stuff assumes some experience. The internet
applications and SQL stuff I am less interested in but I'll take it if it
doesn't run shipping to high. I probably should have asked where are as
well. Might be expensive to shop across the pond! I'm in the US,
Birmingham, AL.

On Mon, Jul 11, 2022, 4:01 PM Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox) <
foxh...@information-architecture.com> wrote:


I opened the big box-o'-books. What a weird selection was in there! About
half of it was the manuals from M$. Another big chunk were VFP3!

(Including

YAG's Codebook). No Hackers Guide (treasured, of course) or other more
general books -- anywhere. Maybe I have another box somewhere

Here are some with potential use to someone:

-- Internet applications with visual FoxPro 6
-- 1001 things you wanted to know about visual FoxPro
-- WebRAD  Building database applications on the Web
-- Client server applications with visual FoxPro and SQL server
-- Using VFP 5 (Michael Antonovich)
-- Using VFP 6 (Manachem Bazian)

I think those last two were the books I gave to students at my VFP

classes.

Ken

On Mon, Jul 11, 2022, 1:48 PM Jeff Roberts 

wrote:

Happy Retirement Ken!  If you are really throwing them out, let me know

if

you are willing to ship them to me (I'll pay for shipping and for your
trouble). We have a couple of foxpro projects that I think will never

die

and I have a few people on my team I would give them to. You can email

me

directly if you'd like. -Jeff

On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 1:38 PM Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox) <
foxh...@information-architecture.com> wrote:


Hi, folks --

Five or so years since retiring, and all "just-in-case" scenarios

fully

played out, so... The last chapter in my Fox story is imminent. My

large

cache of FoxPro books is hitting the recycle bin.

Long live(d) the Fox!

Cheers,

Ken


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Re: Virtual Foxfest 2022

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I've always found your insights to be valuable, Dave, so I'd love to 
hear a session from you!


Cheers,
--Michael


On 5/6/2022 6:48 AM, Dave Crozier wrote:

What a great set of sessions it was yesterday. Great to meet old acquaintances 
who I haven’t been in contact with for a few years and also to meet some new 
people.

All the sessions were very informative and professional.

Thanks to Jody, Tamara, Rick and Doug as well as many others for organising it 
all and can’t wait for the next one even though I will be retired by then – but 
then again I may even decide to give a session yself based upon what we have 
been doing here at Flexipol.

Once again, well done everyone!

Dave Crozier
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Flexipol Packaging Ltd.

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Re: can visual foxpro create a table inside a sql statement?

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The short answer (as you've seen firsthand):  No, you cannot do that.

You can do subqueries like this:

select * from MySource where id in (select id from SomeOtherSource where 
condition=whatever)



On 4/15/2022 9:49 AM, Jeff Roberts wrote:

I've been watching a video tutorial called "Mastery with SQL" that uses
Postgres for the back end. At one point while talking about subqueries the
instructor runs the following SQL query:

SELECT * FROM (values ('short', 0, 60), ('medium', 60, 120), ('long', 120,
1)) as c("desc", "min", "max");

This query more or less creates a table and then selects everything out of
it. Not very useful on its own but could be handy when joined up to a real
table. I get a syntax error running this in Visual Foxpro 9 so I was
wondering if the syntax can be changed so that it will work, or is this
type of query even possible with Visual Foxpro? I think it could be done
with a create cursor statement ahead of the query but I'm just curious if
it can be done with a one-liner. FYI the query as-is works in Postgres but
not VFP, Sqlite, or Mysql (at least the versions I have on my machine).


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Re: VRunFox

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Carl -- I'll leave that link for you to grab it from there.

On 4/8/2022 4:14 PM, Carl Lindner wrote:

Ed - Thanks!  You have done above and beyond for this group.
Carl


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On Apr 8, 2022, at 10:02, Carl Lindner  wrote:

I pulled down VRunFox-master.zip.  The project seems to be missing
phxbasecontrols.vcx and ts.scx.

I copied the base controls to the \classes guessing it would be happy.

But, cannot find ts.scx.  Can anyone help?

I remember this coming up before, but it's been over 15 years since I last
touched vRunFox (or VFP, for that matter). I no longer have any way to test
this, but the last bit of code that I could find for it I posted on GitHub a
while back. Feel free to grab that code and see if you can make it work.

https://github.com/EdLeafe/vRunFox

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Re: VRunFox

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Hi Carl,

I can send you my vrunfox9.exe if you want.  It's not the project but I 
know it works.


Let me know!
--Michael


On 4/8/2022 11:02 AM, Carl Lindner wrote:

I pulled down VRunFox-master.zip.  The project seems to be missing
phxbasecontrols.vcx and ts.scx.

  


I copied the base controls to the \classes guessing it would be happy.

  


But, cannot find ts.scx.  Can anyone help?

  


Thanks,

Carl Lindner



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Re: 1001 Things You Wanted to Know About Visual FoxPro

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Let us know your outcome, as I have the same question from a HWP book I 
bought awhile back.  Thanks!



On 4/7/2022 4:37 AM, Alan Bourke wrote:

Normally I'd harass people on Twitter but Whil doesn't appear to have been on 
that since 2019. Maybe call the number on the website ?


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Re: [NF] Facets Database???

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Cue the Dilbert cartoon about databases. 
http://track.smtpsendemail.com/9074967/c?p=klYXZw5RMYof4vwZ822brx22uE_jlBnDP6ycdzwkNLzngCdZNJlTgrzR6E-s8-heh4utQh5TnGSJ0wc4SUrIOKOukhgxW39BSSCS2Jh8lsXa_Kv4DBgSoQbszX65b80YPRIOc7xbMfY3EijEiL5aKhgKUg-JSMxXd_Zpq534h022Oc84so1uG7dksB3hi5EBhTuOr0VEN7UcDaHiYqjNXnl0Rv0HhxkK4Nz9_NdUye__ldGNasbu81l195igj-tE



On 3/5/2022 2:35 AM, Johan Nel wrote:

Hehe,

That is typical headhunter.  I believe the name of the database to be 
developed is to be named Facets...


On 2022/03/04 19:48, Kurt @ Gmail wrote:

Hey folks - anyone every heard of this kinda DB before? Myself - Never!

So, I was surprised when this headhunter reached out to me about a 
job doing this stuff. And, I confirmed - she insists the person must 
obviously have hands-on experience with it. This is the info about 
the Gig and her info (she connected with me on LinkedIn - so you can 
connect with her there):



 Facets Database Developer

*Hi there! We’re searching for a database developer with strong 
Facets experience. This role will potentially be a role that will be 
contract to hire, but in the meantime it’ll be 100% remote and a 
contract.  The role will be gathering all information regarding the 
intended functions of the Facets database and configuring, and 
designing and creating appropriate frameworks. Do you know someone 
who is a fit? We’re interviewing asap. Lauren Daher Senior Manager, 
Consultant Engagement at Catalyst Solutions*


I'd say TGIF - but, in my case - nothing to be thankful for in 
regards to sliding into the weekend...


-Kurt


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Re: [NF] Facets Database???

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That reminds me of DotNet job ads when they asked the same thing.lol

On 3/4/2022 4:57 PM, j...@johnweller.co.uk wrote:

It may be that the headhunter doesn't fully understand what they are asking 
for.  I remember a few weeks after Visual Basic was launched seeing adverts for 
programmers with at least two years' experience of Visual Basic. 😊

John Weller
07976 393631


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Subject: Re: [NF] Facets Database???

Welcome back, Kurt!

A quick web search for "facets database" doesn't seem to point to one
product, but rather a feature that several different database engines are
offering as different things. It's hard to know what the headhunter wants.
Besides heads, of course.




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Re: Using gmail to send emails from your VFP apps -- deadline approaching for shutoff

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On 3/4/2022 3:13 PM, Kurt @ Gmail wrote:
Ah Cool - so that's how Tracy did it! I do remember someone posted 
about that in the past - because I have seen this problem many times 
before.


But, now I'm curious. Is the problem related to my email reader - or 
it really is related to how Mike transmitted the message? Does it 
occur because someone tried to transmit a message to the forum here, 
and it included some HTML formatting? As I know this forum does Not 
support that kind of formatting.


I just posted something today - am wondering if my own posting got 
transmitted as Alien-Speak as well...




It tried to send as HTMLthat's my guess as to why it went 'alien.'

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Using gmail to send emails from your VFP apps -- deadline approaching for shutoff

[MB Software Solutions, LLC]

Attempt #2...this time as text-onlyallegedly

got this notice from google today:


 Less secure apps & your Google Account

To help keep your account secure, starting*May 30, 2022*, ​​Google will 
no longer support the use of third-party apps or devices which ask you 
to sign in to your Google Account using only your username and password.


Please note this deadline does not apply to Google Workspace or Google 
Cloud Identity customers. The enforcement date for these customers will 
be announced on the Workspace blog at a later date.


For more information, please continue reading.

*Special Note on Apple Device Sign-Ins.*Users who have not recently 
signed into their Google Account using only username and password will 
be able to only make new sign in attempts using the Google account type 
starting from*February 28, 2022*. Existing users may continue to sign 
into their Google Account using their username and password until*May 
30, 2022*.


If an app or site doesn’t meet oursecurity standards 
, 
Google might block anyone who’s trying to sign in to your account from 
it. Less secure apps can make it easier for hackers to get in to your 
account, so blocking sign-ins from these apps helps keep your account safe.



...so I'm guessing my legacy apps out there at clients will no longer be 
able to use the internal error reporting (that sends an email to me from 
my gmail account).


FYI for those of you who use gmail in our apps for this kind of emailing 
purpose.



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Re: No classes in REGISTRY.VCX

[MB Software Solutions, LLC]

Sounds like it got corrupted/hosed somehow.  Glad you've got another copy.


On 2/24/2022 6:20 AM, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all

  


When I open REGISTRY.VCX from its usual location (in folder FFC), there are
no classes present.

  


I have a good copy elsewhere and when I open it the expected classes are
there.

  


So, I copied the VCX and VCT from the good location to the FFC folder but
still opening it from FFC there are no classes present.

  


The VFP home folder is excluded from virus checking.

  


I am completely baffled (and very, very frustrated) .

  


Paul Newton



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Re: [NF] Beyond Quickbooks

[MB Software Solutions, LLC]

Thanks, Andy!  Good tips to file away.  Looks like these folks did do 
something like that recently.  The QBW file is now only 386 MB.



On 1/23/2022 6:37 AM, AndyHC wrote:

seems to be plenty of info available on Google:

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but the first step seems to be to back-up (!) and then compress the 
files (Surprise!)
- some suggest that speed is the main problem - well you can now get 
humongous SSD's


   AndyD



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Re: [NF] Beyond Quickbooks

[MB Software Solutions, LLC]

Yeah but they're near 2GB in file size (like 18 yrs worth of data) so 
they're in need of a solution beyond QB (or find a way to make QB keep 
working for them).  QB Online isn't an option as their VFP app 
integrates with the CFO's QB Desktop version.


I'm no QB expert but I'd like to think there's some sort of process that 
can be done to consolidate/cleanup data over decades.



On 1/19/2022 11:09 AM, AndyHC wrote:
Twenty some years ago I used Quicken (QuickBooks lite) and was so 
impressed by the user interface I recommended it as an example of how 
to write user-friendly code. I was less impressed by their lack of 
transparency on file structures that allowed them to charge annually 
for tax rules updates, bu still, pretty much everybody does that now 
and - it stands out in my memory.


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[NF] Beyond Quickbooks

[MB Software Solutions, LLC]

Jeff Johnson's old client has contacted me asking about a replacement 
for their QuickBooks because they've basically outgrown it.  (Doesn't 
help that they've got 18 years of data in there and their trucking 
business has boomed since the pandemic, and I'm pretty sure they haven't 
closed out or group totally or whatever you call it for past time segments.)


Suggestions?

tia!

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Re: [NF] Microsoft wrongly blocking lots of emails

[MB Software Solutions, LLC]

I think the problems started after 25 Dec but could be wrong. I'd throw 
a few bucks on the "I bet you're right" square.   ;-)


Still no solution from M$ yet...7 days later.  That's absolutely 
INSANE.  The Planet's LARGEST IT COMPANY (or damn near) and this still 
isn't resolved.  My IT guy says he's been dealing with several 
not-very-good-at-all-speaking-English persons and it seems like each 
time he has to start over...their communication skills are abysmal.


Don't you love this global village?


On 1/6/2022 11:25 AM, Man-wai Chang wrote:

Could it be the Microso$t Exchange bug that was triggered on 01 Jan 2022?

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 4:28 AM MB Software Solutions, LLC
 wrote:

Anybody else experiencing errors like this trying to email folks who use
Office 365 as their email provider?

Access denied, banned sender[172.104.208.100]. To request removal from this
  list please forward this message todel...@messaging.microsoft.com. For
  more information please go to
  http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=526653. AS(1410)
  [BN1NAM02FT015.eop-nam02.prod.protection.outlook.com] (in reply to RCPT TO
  command)

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Re: VFP9 and SQL memo fields

[MB Software Solutions, LLC]

(Keep in mind I was looking at the MySQL part in that URL...search for 
whatever you'd like)


On 1/5/2022 6:33 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:
Richard makes me think of the connection string OPTIONS valuethere 
are certain flags to set to allow you to get memo fields in certain 
sizes, iirc.  Something to investigate.  I went to 
https://www.connectionstrings.com/mysql/ to investigate but didn't see 
where the exhaustive list of flags are for that OPTION= part of the 
sqlstringconnect value.


--Michael


On 1/5/2022 6:30 PM, Richard Kaye wrote:
Not trying to be obnoxious here but installing a driver on its own 
won’t change anything. 😊


Has the connection string for the application been changed to use 17?

I don’t think there is an “ODBC Driver 11 for SQL Server” but I could 
be wrong. There’s definitely a 13 and a 17. There is also “SQL Server 
Native Client 11.0”.


Is it possible to use ODBC Manager in the environment in question to 
create a connection to the SQL Server the EXE uses? If that works, 
then you know the problem lies in the application configuration.


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From: ProfoxTech 
mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com>> 
On Behalf Of kbe...@mchsi.com<mailto:kbe...@mchsi.com>

Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2022 5:39 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com<mailto:profoxt...@leafe.com>
Subject: Re: VFP9 and SQL memo fields

I am pretty sure we are using Microsoft ODBC Driver 11 for SQL Server

I think they tried to install ODBC Driver 17 and had the same results



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From: "Richard Kaye" mailto:rk...@invaluable.com>>
To: "ProFox Email List" mailto:profox@leafe.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2022 8:43:26 AM
Subject: RE: VFP9 and SQL memo fields

Do you know what SQL driver your EXE is currently using?

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From: ProfoxTech 
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Sent: Tuesday, January 4, 2022 8:48 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com<mailto:profoxt...@leafe.com>
Subject: Re: VFP9 and SQL memo fields

Yes it is a compiled EXE for a legacy app that has been running great 
for years.


I am using West-Wind wwSQL class to execute Queries and Stored 
procedures. I don't think it is remote views.


I call the method and it returns a cursor or an oData object.

I hope that helps as I am not an SQL expert.

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Re: VFP9 and SQL memo fields

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Richard makes me think of the connection string OPTIONS valuethere 
are certain flags to set to allow you to get memo fields in certain 
sizes, iirc.  Something to investigate.  I went to 
https://www.connectionstrings.com/mysql/ to investigate but didn't see 
where the exhaustive list of flags are for that OPTION= part of the 
sqlstringconnect value.


--Michael


On 1/5/2022 6:30 PM, Richard Kaye wrote:

Not trying to be obnoxious here but installing a driver on its own won’t change 
anything. 😊

Has the connection string for the application been changed to use 17?

I don’t think there is an “ODBC Driver 11 for SQL Server” but I could be wrong. 
There’s definitely a 13 and a 17. There is also “SQL Server Native Client 11.0”.

Is it possible to use ODBC Manager in the environment in question to create a 
connection to the SQL Server the EXE uses? If that works, then you know the 
problem lies in the application configuration.

--

rk

From: ProfoxTech mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com>> 
On Behalf Of kbe...@mchsi.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2022 5:39 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: VFP9 and SQL memo fields

I am pretty sure we are using Microsoft ODBC Driver 11 for SQL Server

I think they tried to install ODBC Driver 17 and had the same results



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To: "ProFox Email List" mailto:profox@leafe.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2022 8:43:26 AM
Subject: RE: VFP9 and SQL memo fields

Do you know what SQL driver your EXE is currently using?

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From: ProfoxTech mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com>> 
On Behalf Of kbe...@mchsi.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 4, 2022 8:48 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: VFP9 and SQL memo fields

Yes it is a compiled EXE for a legacy app that has been running great for years.

I am using West-Wind wwSQL class to execute Queries and Stored procedures. I 
don't think it is remote views.

I call the method and it returns a cursor or an oData object.

I hope that helps as I am not an SQL expert.

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Re: [NF] Microsoft wrongly blocking lots of emails

[MB Software Solutions, LLC]

But here's what's oddmy IT guy says that his IP range is NOT on the 
blocked list.  Nor does M$ support find any problem (yet it doesn't work).


From the M$ tech he worked with on this:

   Hello,

   My name is Farheen and I work with the Outlook.com Sender Support Team.

   I do not see anything offhand with IP: (172.104.208.100) that would
   be preventing your mail from reaching our customers.

   You may be able to find additional information on common delivery
   questions at the Outlook.com Postmaster Site found at
   https://mail.live.com/mail/postmaster.aspx I would like to highlight
   some key areas that I believe are appropriate to your company.

 * Outlook.com has created the *Smart Network Data Services
   (SNDS)*program. This is a service that helps legitimate email
   senders work with their customers and partners to reduce spam
   originating from their IP. To register, please go to
   http://postmaster.msn.com/snds/ This program allows a sender to
   monitor the 'health' of their IPs.
 * Monitor user complaints. Outlook.com also has a sender complaint
   feedback loop program called the *Junk Email Reporting Program
   (JMRP)*. Enrolment in this free program will benefit you as a
   sender as it will keep your email lists updated and populated
   with interested Outlook.com customers. This program will help
   you to remove those Outlook.com customers who do not want to
   receive emails from your company. If you are interested in
   joining this program, please visit
   https://postmaster.live.com/snds/JMRP.aspx?wa=wsignin1.0.

   While using the SNDS tool and enrolment in the JMRP will not allow
   emails from your mail servers to bypass our filters, these are in
   place to help legitimate companies deliver their emails to
   Outlook.com customers.

   *_ Apply for IP Certification by Return Path, a Validity Product?_*_
   _If you are doing all the above and you continue to have
   deliverability issues, you may wish to consider joining Return
   Path's IP Certified Mail Program, *a third-party program
   administered by Return Path*, *a Validity Product*. Many legitimate
   mailers and marketers have qualified and joined this program to
   improve mail deliverability and decrease email from being filtered
   to the Junk E-mail Folder. *Return Path's IP Certification
   (*https://www.validity.com/products/returnpath/certification/
   
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...So now he's going to look into this IP Certification by Return Path 
product.



On 1/5/2022 3:35 PM, Ed Leafe wrote:

On Jan 5, 2022, at 14:21, MB Software Solutions, 
LLC  wrote:

Anybody else experiencing errors like this trying to email folks who use Office 
365 as their email provider?

Access denied, banned sender[172.104.208.100]. To request removal from this
list please forward this messagetodel...@messaging.microsoft.com. For
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I've had to deal with a lot of email providers that block this list because 
it's hosted on a VPS from Digital Ocean. It has nothing to do with the content, 
just that the IP address is in a banned range.

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Anybody else experiencing errors like this trying to email folks who use 
Office 365 as their email provider?


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Re: [NF] My laptop performance is soooo bad in ANY browser

[MB Software Solutions, LLC]

I checkedand you know what was the only update available? Windows 
11.  LOL



On 1/5/2022 10:32 AM, Dave Crozier wrote:

Michael,
Looks like outstanding updates require attention.

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From: ProFox  On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions, LLC
Sent: 05 January 2022 04:35
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: [NF] My laptop performance is s bad in ANY browser

Check out this screenshot: https://www.screencast.com/t/jPvGm7ebW

Perhaps it's this syncing/backing-up that is caused my laptop's performance ALL 
DAY to be dead dog slow?!?!???  It has been UNBEARABLE all day long.

I did a SpeedTest.net and I'm getting great speeds (400/60) so it's NOT a slow 
internet connection.   I did a SFC /scannow in the Command Prompt earlier and 
it did find some corruption and allegedly fixed it 
(https://www.screencast.com/t/XtGbukcktB).

Laptop is NOT old and is NOT overheating (or at least I don't hear the fan on 
constantly/frequently and the laptop is not hot to the touch).  I did adjust 
the Power Settings today to try to bolster performance (which would increase 
the frequency of the fan, I thought)but zip zero nada.  I did have some 
noises from that fan recently but I don't think the fan is dead because again, 
the laptop is NOT hot to touch at all.

Other than using SysInternals, what else do you suggest?

tia!
--Michael


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[NF] My laptop performance is soooo bad in ANY browser

[MB Software Solutions, LLC]

Check out this screenshot: https://www.screencast.com/t/jPvGm7ebW

Perhaps it's this syncing/backing-up that is caused my laptop's 
performance ALL DAY to be dead dog slow?!?!???  It has been UNBEARABLE 
all day long.


I did a SpeedTest.net and I'm getting great speeds (400/60) so it's NOT 
a slow internet connection.   I did a SFC /scannow in the Command Prompt 
earlier and it did find some corruption and allegedly fixed it 
(https://www.screencast.com/t/XtGbukcktB).


Laptop is NOT old and is NOT overheating (or at least I don't hear the 
fan on constantly/frequently and the laptop is not hot to the touch).  I 
did adjust the Power Settings today to try to bolster performance (which 
would increase the frequency of the fan, I thought)but zip zero 
nada.  I did have some noises from that fan recently but I don't think 
the fan is dead because again, the laptop is NOT hot to touch at all.


Other than using SysInternals, what else do you suggest?

tia!
--Michael


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Re: ProTip: Still using the Project Manager?

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"This just inVisual FoxPro 9 support for *Mac Desktops*!"

LOL!


On 12/28/2021 3:06 PM, Tracy Pearson wrote:

If you are still using the Project Manager and are on a High DPI screen.
When you move the window around it is not a very pleasant experience.

This code will put the window in an outer window that does not have the
border issue.

 DEFINE WINDOW MyProjectWIndow ;
 FROM 0,0 ;
 TO WROWS("Project Manager"),WCOLS("Project Manager") ;
 CLOSE FLOAT GROW ZOOM MINIMIZE NOMDI ;
 TITLE "Project Manager" ;
 FONT WFONT(1,"Project Manager"), WFONT(2, "Project Manager")
 SHOW WINDOW MyProjectWindow
 ACTIVATE WINDOW "Project Manager" IN MyProjectWindow
 MOVE WINDOW "Project Manager" TO 0,0

And if you want the Project Manager to live outside the VFP window, and be
available in the Windows Task Bar change the SHOW WINDOW command to this.

SHOW WINDOW MyProjectWindow IN macdesktop

If you do not need it in the Windows Task Bar, you could change the DEFINE
WINDOW line to include this.

 IN DESKTOP


The project manager needs to be open before you run this. You could add a
this before it.

 MODIFY PROJECT 'TheAwesomeProject' NOWAIT

Do you sometimes maximize windows you don't mean to? Change ZOOM to NOZOOM.

Works in VFP 9 and VFP Advanced.

OR

You could use Doug Hennig's Project Explorer
https://github.com/DougHennig/ProjectExplorer

Happy Coding!
Tracy


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Re: Windows 11 ads and unexpected restarts on Win 10 Pro

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Anybody else upgrade to Win11 yet and can comment on how your Fox IDE 
(and exes/rpts/etc) works with it?



On 12/16/2021 11:55 PM, data...@adam.com.au wrote:

I have updated to windows 11 on 3 of my old laptops by editing the TPM
settings in one of the DLLs of the setup. Windows 11 works and works well.
IN fact it has made two of my laptops that were incredibly slow to become
usable again. It looks like MS has finally broken the tradition of every
second Windows release being garbage.

-Original Message-
From: ProFox  On Behalf Of Michael Oke, II
Sent: Friday, 17 December 2021 3:13 PM
To: ProFox Email List 
Subject: Re: Windows 11 ads and unexpected restarts on Win 10 Pro

Age perhaps.  My desktop is a few years old as is my laptop so they both
lack the TPM 2.0 support as well as at least the laptop sporting an
unsupported processor.

-
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oke...@gmail.com
661-349-6221
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mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:


I wonder how my Win10Pro machine would differ from yours?

On 12/16/2021 6:13 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote:

I haven't seen anything of the sort but I'm not sure that either of
my physical Windows 10 machines qualifies for the update.

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On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 2:21 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:


My Win10Pro dev machine decided to reboot overnight without any
warning to me TWICE in the past week, and it had me quite pissed off.
Thankfully my code was all saved (or at least 99% of it), but
admittedly, I often leave my VFP window open and pick up where I
left off the next day.

As some of you may recall, I designed an app for managing my Beer
League Hockey group (called the "Babs Hockey Fraternity" on
Facebook--locations in two states now!), and initially, because it
was so quick to get it up and going, I used a VFP DBC backend.  I
also use Mr. Chen's VFP 10 exclusively for that too.  After a few
crashes from VFP 10 corrupting the DBFs, I swapped out to the
MariaDB backend instead.  (I've been using MySQL/MariaDB since I
saw Bob Lee's n-tier presentation at GLGDW back in 2003.)

Anyhooo.did anybody else get a similar behavior recently, with
your computer asking you if you wanted the free upgrade to Win 11?


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Re: Just to set the mood for Christmas

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Ah, now I see why Ted posted today.  Nice!

On 12/17/2021 4:49 AM, Dave Crozier wrote:

I know we have had some form of this poem submitted to Profox on many previous 
years (I think by Ted) so here is a version I found.

Merry Xmas everyone

The computers were whirring; they never do stop.
The power was on and the temperature right,
in hopes that the input would feed back that night.
The system was ready, the program was coded,
And memory drums had been carefully loaded;
While adding a Christmassy glow to the scene,
The lights on the console, flashed red, white and green.
When out in the hall there arose such a clatter,
The programmer ran to see what was the matter.
Away to the halfway he flew like a flash,
Forgetting his key in his curious dash.
He stood in the halfway and looked all about,
When the door slammed behind him, and he was locked out.

Then, in the computer room what should appear,
But a miniature sleigh and eight tiny reindeer;
And a little old man, who with scarcely a pause,
Chuckled: "My name is Santa...the last name is Claus."
The computer was startled, confused by the name,
Then it buzzed as it heard the old fellow exclaim:
"This is Dasher and Dancer and Prancer and Vixen,
And Comet and Cupid and Donner and Blitzen."
With all these odd names, it was puzzled anew;
it hummed and it clanked, and a main circuit blew.
It searched in its memory core, trying to "think";
Then the multi-line printer went out on the blink.
Unable to do its electronic job,

It said in a voice that was almost a sob:
"Your eyes ~ how they twinkle ~ your dimples so merry,
Your cheeks so like roses, your nose like a cherry,
Your smile ~ all these things, I've been programmed to know,
And a data-recall, I am more than so-so;
But your name and your address (computers can't lie),
Are things that I just cannot identify.
You've a jolly old face and a little round belly,
that shakes when you laugh like a bowlful of jelly;
My scanners can see you, but still I insist,
Since you're not in my program, you cannot exist!"

Old Santa just chuckled a merry "ho,ho,"
And sat down to type out a quick word or so.
The keyboard clack-clattered, its sound sharp and clean,
As Santa fed this "data" to the machine:
"Kids everywhere know me; I come every year;
The presents I bring add to everyone's cheer;
But you won't get anything ~ that's plain to see;
Too bad your programmers forgot about me."
"Merry Christmas to All," as he pulled out its plug!
~Author Unknown~


Dave Crozier
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Re: T'was the Night Before Crisis [NF]

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A little early this year, TR?   ;-)

A timeless classic, though!

On 12/17/2021 9:19 AM, Ted Roche wrote:

'Twas the night before crisis, and all through the house,
Not a program was working, not even a browse.

The programmers were wrung out, too mindless to care,
Knowing chances of shipping hadn't a prayer.
The users were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of inquiries danced in their heads.

When out in the lobby there arose such a clatter,
That I sprang from my cube to see what was the matter.
And what to my wondering eyes should appear,
But a SUPER PROGRAMMER, oblivious to fear.

More rapid than eagles, his programs they came,
And he whistled and shouted and called them by name:
On Update! On Add! On Inquiry! On Delete!
On Batch Jobs! On Closing! On Functions Complete!

His eyes were glazed over, his fingers were lean,
>From weekends and nights in front of the screen.
A wink of his eye, and a twist of his head,
Soon gave me to know I had nothing to dread.

He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work,
Turning specs into code, then he turned with a jerk.
And laying his finger on the ENTER key,
The system came up, and worked perfectly.

The updates, updated; the deletes, they deleted;
The inquiries, inquired; and the closing completed.
He tested each whistle, he tested each bell,
With nary an abend, and all had gone well.

The system was finished, the tests were concluded,
The client's last changes were even included!
And the client exclaimed with a snarl and a taunt,
"It's just what I asked for, but NOT what I want"

(attributed variously, my copy came from here[1])

[1] http://www.mdarwin.ca/humour/night-before-xmas/night-before-crisis.phtml

https://web.archive.org/web/20070923102738/http://www.mdarwin.ca/humour/night-before-xmas/night-before-crisis.phtml

Merry Christmas, happy Qwanza, merry Solstice, happy Saturnalia and so
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Re: Windows 11 ads and unexpected restarts on Win 10 Pro

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Good to hear thismaybe I will update to 11 after all.  This is my 
only laptop so hence why I was hesitant.



On 12/16/2021 11:55 PM, data...@adam.com.au wrote:

I have updated to windows 11 on 3 of my old laptops by editing the TPM
settings in one of the DLLs of the setup. Windows 11 works and works well.
IN fact it has made two of my laptops that were incredibly slow to become
usable again. It looks like MS has finally broken the tradition of every
second Windows release being garbage.

-Original Message-
From: ProFox  On Behalf Of Michael Oke, II
Sent: Friday, 17 December 2021 3:13 PM
To: ProFox Email List 
Subject: Re: Windows 11 ads and unexpected restarts on Win 10 Pro

Age perhaps.  My desktop is a few years old as is my laptop so they both
lack the TPM 2.0 support as well as at least the laptop sporting an
unsupported processor.

-
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oke...@gmail.com
661-349-6221
-


On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 5:58 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:


I wonder how my Win10Pro machine would differ from yours?

On 12/16/2021 6:13 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote:

I haven't seen anything of the sort but I'm not sure that either of
my physical Windows 10 machines qualifies for the update.

-
Michael Oke, II
oke...@gmail.com
661-349-6221
-


On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 2:21 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:


My Win10Pro dev machine decided to reboot overnight without any
warning to me TWICE in the past week, and it had me quite pissed off.
Thankfully my code was all saved (or at least 99% of it), but
admittedly, I often leave my VFP window open and pick up where I
left off the next day.

As some of you may recall, I designed an app for managing my Beer
League Hockey group (called the "Babs Hockey Fraternity" on
Facebook--locations in two states now!), and initially, because it
was so quick to get it up and going, I used a VFP DBC backend.  I
also use Mr. Chen's VFP 10 exclusively for that too.  After a few
crashes from VFP 10 corrupting the DBFs, I swapped out to the
MariaDB backend instead.  (I've been using MySQL/MariaDB since I
saw Bob Lee's n-tier presentation at GLGDW back in 2003.)

Anyhooo.did anybody else get a similar behavior recently, with
your computer asking you if you wanted the free upgrade to Win 11?


--
Michael J. Babcock, MCP
Fox/VFP dev since 1997
Developer of FabNet estimating software - mbsoftwaresolutions.com



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Re: Windows 11 ads and unexpected restarts on Win 10 Pro

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I wonder how my Win10Pro machine would differ from yours?

On 12/16/2021 6:13 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote:

I haven't seen anything of the sort but I'm not sure that either of my
physical Windows 10 machines qualifies for the update.

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oke...@gmail.com
661-349-6221
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On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 2:21 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:


My Win10Pro dev machine decided to reboot overnight without any warning
to me TWICE in the past week, and it had me quite pissed off.
Thankfully my code was all saved (or at least 99% of it), but
admittedly, I often leave my VFP window open and pick up where I left
off the next day.

As some of you may recall, I designed an app for managing my Beer League
Hockey group (called the "Babs Hockey Fraternity" on Facebook--locations
in two states now!), and initially, because it was so quick to get it up
and going, I used a VFP DBC backend.  I also use Mr. Chen's VFP 10
exclusively for that too.  After a few crashes from VFP 10 corrupting
the DBFs, I swapped out to the MariaDB backend instead.  (I've been
using MySQL/MariaDB since I saw Bob Lee's n-tier presentation at GLGDW
back in 2003.)

Anyhooo.did anybody else get a similar behavior recently, with your
computer asking you if you wanted the free upgrade to Win 11?


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Windows 11 ads and unexpected restarts on Win 10 Pro

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My Win10Pro dev machine decided to reboot overnight without any warning 
to me TWICE in the past week, and it had me quite pissed off.  
Thankfully my code was all saved (or at least 99% of it), but 
admittedly, I often leave my VFP window open and pick up where I left 
off the next day.


As some of you may recall, I designed an app for managing my Beer League 
Hockey group (called the "Babs Hockey Fraternity" on Facebook--locations 
in two states now!), and initially, because it was so quick to get it up 
and going, I used a VFP DBC backend.  I also use Mr. Chen's VFP 10 
exclusively for that too.  After a few crashes from VFP 10 corrupting 
the DBFs, I swapped out to the MariaDB backend instead.  (I've been 
using MySQL/MariaDB since I saw Bob Lee's n-tier presentation at GLGDW 
back in 2003.)


Anyhooo.did anybody else get a similar behavior recently, with your 
computer asking you if you wanted the free upgrade to Win 11?



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Re: CABuilder

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Ever since Ed Leafe and some others posted that failings of CAs, I never 
spent another minute on them.  I've used Paul McNett's MakeUpdatable.prg 
for years although I morphed it into something else I think eventually 
in my framework which uses SPT exclusively.  I will admit that the Fox 
team did fix some of those errors apparently but I never looked back.



On 12/16/2021 4:25 PM, Graham Brown wrote:

Hi all

  


I use Paul's CABuilder tool under vfp8 to create Cursor Adapters. Just
lately it has started failing under Windows 8.

Database is SQL so I'm ticking the convert date/time to date option,
selecting SQL and ODBC. It runs through all the tables then says I don't
have something installed and asks for the setup.

Doesn't say what it is missing and putting the original disc in tells me it
can't find the setup files.

  


Will trace the code to see if I can find any clues but has anyone seen this
before?

  


Regards

Graham

  





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Re: [NF] you are...

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On 11/11/2021 8:41 AM, Malcolm Greene wrote:
Hey! I used to be that guy. I switched to Python ... now happily 
married to a great woman. Causation or correlation? I'm going with 
causation and citing XKCD as my source.

#python-antigravity
https://xkcd.com/353/

Malcolm



LOL!!!  That's hiliarious!!!  Meanwhile in DotNet land, cue the obscure 
memes..lol.  (Ok, maybe it's better today, but once upon a time...)



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Fatal error 708 while trying to report error 708 -- do I win a prize???

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My Fox seemed to have that deer in the headlights after some FRX 
testing.  Got this error after trying to quit after selecting each of 
the datasessions open: https://www.screencast.com/t/eVtnBdvsvmt


I think I at least deserve a t-shirt for that or something.

(Everybody say together now. "...or something."  Kinda 
Airplane-esque:  https://youtu.be/3qNtyfZP8bE)


lol

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Re: [NF] Want to hear what .NET 6 has?

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There's good ol' Jim Duffy!!!  And looks like he's lost a lot of weight 
too...good to see him again.



On 10/28/2021 1:35 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:

Marcus Egger gives another talk on what M$ is releasing next month.

Mobile, cloud, web. desktop, IOT, and more.

CODE Video - (codemag.com) 



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WhilFest 2002 (or 2003?) Halloween pictures???

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I'm hoping somebody has my Halloween costume pic from GLGDW (WhilFest) 
back in either 2002 or 2003?  I can't recall which one was at Halloween 
time.


(left as regular post since it was at the Foxpro conference...lol)

tia!

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Re: Slow performance after moving to VM

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I ran into something like you're discussing below back in 2017 (?) but 
thankfully my client just moved to my newer version of software that 
used a MariaDB (MySQL) backend instead of the DBFs. The old DBF version 
for them was suffering network/corruption problems.  Interestingly 
enough, those problems went away when we made the switch.  (Ever since 
Bob Lee's MySQL session at WhilFest in 2002/2003, I've never used DBFs 
on the backend for things I've built.)



On 10/26/2021 5:04 AM, Chris Davis wrote:

Hi All

Has anyone got any suggestions as to where the problem maybe in the following 
scenario.

We have a VFP application, using DBC/DBF's on a windows server, it has been 
running fine and quick for years.  Various windows clients (all now Windows 10).

The server was a physical server but has now been replaced with a virtual 
machine hosted on a HyperV machine on premises.

Most of the 20 clients are still running fine, but a handful (3 identified) at 
the moment are running really slow, they are only running slow in the VFP 
application any other use of the server like copying files runs fine.  They 
also seem to be the better spec'd machines out of the 20.  Nothing has changed 
on the client pc's other than the unc path where the application is looking for 
the data.

Any suggestions?

TIA

Chris.


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Re: Matt Slay

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On 10/12/2021 7:14 AM, Alan Bourke wrote:

That's terrible news, he was a real expert and a credit to the community.

RIP


Yep.  Such an ace and always classy from my interactions with him.  He 
was great.  RIP Matt.  Prayers for his family.



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Re: AW: "Eric Rapaport" at Microsoft

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On 9/22/2021 10:10 AM, Eric Selje wrote:

He probably wrote the Rushmore algorithm, in a coffee-fueled morning
frenzy, before moving on to writing screenplays and scores.



LMAO

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Re: AW: "Eric Rapaport" at Microsoft

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On 9/20/2021 1:50 PM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote:

Wouldn't he then be either mentioned on http://www.foxprohistory.org/ or in
the FoxTales book?

wOOdy


Well his part was obviously TOP SECRET so he couldn't be officially 
named.  LOL



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Re: Retire the CSV?

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True story:  when I worked at a US Govt contractor from 2017-2021, they 
created all kinds of alternatives to the XML submission formats that 
were primarily designed...because not many people want to work with 
XML.  Experience speaks volumes with that one.



On 8/25/2021 8:09 AM, Richard Kaye wrote:

That's a little rude... 😉

If you think it's tough getting customers to properly format a CSV, try XML or 
JSON...

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Subject: Re: Retire the CSV?

Richard, we have upped our standards.  Now up yours.

Bad Stephen

On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 2:38 PM Richard Kaye  wrote:


And see my last thread about the CSV "standard" a few months ago.
There are regional formats for CSVs.

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Russell
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 3:35 PM
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Subject: Re: Retire the CSV?

Till users put in commas because they are needed Last name, first name.
Or commas in dollar amounts.  Yeah those are some of my joys.

On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 3:46 AM  wrote:


You wont get rid of the CSV anytime soon. It reminds me of the
University Professor who declared that email was old-hat and 'dead'
and so sent out the schedule for lectures on social media. Half of
the students didn’t arrive because they didn’t get it.

If it aint broke, don’t fix it. And CSV, for all its limitations,
aint broke.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, 24 August 2021 5:58 PM
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Subject: RE: Retire the CSV?

However, if the data is stable and never changes in format then
using CSV is perfectly acceptable as well as quick.

I must admit I have never liked using double quotes or single quotes
as terminating characters for strings and prefer to use the pipe
symbol | as a prefix/suffix for strings as it should never be
present in operator generated data.

As they say, if it ain't broken then don't fix it  but if it
has never worked then generate a better solution in the first place!

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He's right. And it won't happen.

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 8:43 AM Garrett Fitzgerald <
sarekofvul...@gmail.com>
wrote:


Rght

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 9:25 AM Stephen Russell

wrote:


https://www.bitsondisk.com/writing/2021/retire-the-csv/

Re: [NF] - Is Bigger Always Better When It Comes To Your Monitors? :)

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Your docking station should take care of any port issues...assuming 
you're using a laptop?


On 8/24/2021 3:04 PM, John Weller wrote:

I'd say go for it - you can't have too much screen real estate!  Don't know
about Display Ports, no experience.

John

John Weller
07976 393631


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Subject: [NF] - Is Bigger Always Better When It Comes To Your Monitors? :)

I've been using dual monitors for many years now, but I've been working

with

monitors with two different layouts. Both monitors were 22" wide but the
primary monitor was more square format whereas my secondary monitor has
more of a wide screen format.



Apparently, after I started talking about upgrading my gear, the main

monitor

heard me, got mad and decided to give up the ghost yesterday.



Fortunately, I had a used 27" monitor on hand which I stuck in place
temporarily and the size and brightness and contrast have been a huge
improvement. In fact, this used monitor is making my secondary monitor

look

like crap.



So, my question is this: What size monitors are you using for development

and

how many? The new computer I've purchased has 2 Display Ports, 1 HDMI and
1 VGA. So I'm considering getting two matching monitors which support

Display

Ports. Any comments, thoughts or suggestions about Display Ports?







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Not much to say, Dave?

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Re: Retire the CSV?

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"the Fox is dead"

...but we're still here with many of us still using the Fox to kick ass 
and get shit done.  lol



On 8/24/2021 5:14 AM, Alan Bourke wrote:

On Tue, 24 Aug 2021, at 9:45 AM, data...@adam.com.au wrote:


You wont get rid of the CSV anytime soon. It reminds me of the
University Professor who declared that email was old-hat and 'dead'

Ah yes, we're about due another bout of "email is dead, here's the new thing" 
aren't we? Happens every five years or so. If it's not that it's 'Excel is dead'.


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Re: Retire the CSV?

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This all reminds me of the conversation here 20+ years ago regarding the 
best way to transfer data between stations with some clamoring for XML 
and then others saying all the declarations (rightly) added weight to 
the transport.



On 8/23/2021 9:43 AM, Garrett Fitzgerald wrote:

Rght

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 9:25 AM Stephen Russell 
wrote:


https://www.bitsondisk.com/writing/2021/retire-the-csv/

It's so simple they say.

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Re: [NF] Winforms

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Wow...I see you created that in 2019.  I can't believe what I saw...I'd 
have expected it to work much better than that.  VFP has been 
off-support officially for 4+ years by that time yet the "old girl" 
still looks better for designers given this obvious shortfall.



On 8/20/2021 8:44 AM, Matt Slay wrote:

Here’s a YouTube video I made about WinForms UserControl and how it does not 
work like our beloved FoxPro does.

https://youtu.be/gWONvlLSq3U

  


Matt Slay






On Aug 20, 2021, at 6:01 AM, Alan Bourke  wrote:

On Wed, 18 Aug 2021, at 5:34 PM, Graham Brown wrote:


What am I missing?

You're not missing anything. Visual inheritance in the Windows Forms designer 
does not work like VFP, Delphi or whatever. It didn't in 2002,  and on 
inspection still doesn't now.

This is how you do it with a UserControl.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/desktop/winforms/controls/creating-a-wf-control-design-time-features?view=netframeworkdesktop-4.8


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Re: [NF] Recommendations on a developer seat cushion?

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Malcolm -- I'm awaiting your product review with baited breath and a 
butt thinking this could improve my work day!  ;-)



On 8/12/2021 12:09 PM, Malcolm Greene wrote:

These might not be as comfy as real ones, but great fun nevertheless! 😊

https://www.amazon.com/Silicone-Breast-Form-Cup-Separated/dp/B07FD4ZMJP/

Ha! Brilliant! And probably appropriate for how [NF] my question was :)

For those following this thread, I ordered the following item and will test 
this weekend.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07SZ3THNS/

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Yeah Richard sent that to me today too...gonna check that out.

On 8/10/2021 1:52 PM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote:

Maybe Doug Hennig's whitepaper will be of some help:
https://doughennig.com/papers.aspx
There look for "Handling Multiple Monitors"

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My workaround is to delete all the foxuser.id rows with 'debug' in them 
but that's a PITA.



On 8/9/2021 7:56 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:

VFP9SP2 Win10Pro Dell Latitude 3400 and my favorite color today is red.

Has anyone come across where your resource file just seems to get 
crazy and show windows in coordinates that are entirely off-monitor 
and you cannot see them?  I do!  Started not too long ago.  I use a 
dual-monitor setup and on very rare occasion have my laptop lid open 
too while on the dock for a (unintended) 3rd monitor display.  I can 
only guess that my re-arrange monitors perhaps has caused this.  It's 
very frustrating.  I've nuked the resource.dbf file a couple times but 
it repeats behavior.  (Off the top of my head, I can't recall if the 
ZAP of resource.dbf fixes it or not, but if it does, eventually it 
happens again where I cannot see the Find window.)


Only thing more I can contribute: leftmost monitor is #1 and right 
(and sometimes middle) is #2.  Laptop sits at far right of my desk.


Ideas?  Tia.


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VFP9SP2 Win10Pro Dell Latitude 3400 and my favorite color today is red.

Has anyone come across where your resource file just seems to get crazy 
and show windows in coordinates that are entirely off-monitor and you 
cannot see them?  I do!  Started not too long ago.  I use a dual-monitor 
setup and on very rare occasion have my laptop lid open too while on the 
dock for a (unintended) 3rd monitor display.  I can only guess that my 
re-arrange monitors perhaps has caused this.  It's very frustrating.  
I've nuked the resource.dbf file a couple times but it repeats 
behavior.  (Off the top of my head, I can't recall if the ZAP of 
resource.dbf fixes it or not, but if it does, eventually it happens 
again where I cannot see the Find window.)


Only thing more I can contribute: leftmost monitor is #1 and right (and 
sometimes middle) is #2.  Laptop sits at far right of my desk.


Ideas?  Tia.

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Windows 11???

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Hmmm...I thought Windows 10 was the last OS!  Does this mean we have the 
anxiety yet again of "will our VFP apps work in Win" ???


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Re: Builders and the VFP Undo function

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On 6/18/2021 11:50 AM, Malcolm Greene wrote:

From: Jean Laeremans 
Builders around here are french. They don't do let alone undo  ;)

My vote for funniest comment on Profox this year!

Malcolm



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On 6/18/2021 11:34 AM, Jean Laeremans wrote:

Builders around here are french.  They don't do let alone undo  ;)



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Re: ShellExecute

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Sounds like the Task Scheduler would suit you.  It has an option to not 
run if there's an existing run in progress.


On 6/9/2021 5:33 AM, Chris Davis wrote:

Hi All

I want to ShellExecute a program repeatedly but not until the previous instance 
has finished, what's the best approach?  So I effectively want to wait in a 
loop until the previous instance exits and then run it again.

Ideas?

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Re: AW: Searching classes and forms for something specific

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That looks REALLY COOL!!  Thanks for posting that!!!  Gonna try that soon!


On 5/12/2021 6:19 PM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote:

Maybe that's what you're looking for:
VFPX VFP-Editors:
https://github.com/ggreen86/VFP-Editors

wOOdy

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Is there a search tool out there that can search for criteria such as the
following:
The Column.Sparse is set to False. That same Column has a TextBox baseclass
in it.

I have already slowly parsed most instances of the Sparse property in my
search.
I know I can write something that can search for this specific query as
well.
I'm curious if there is a tool to help in the future.

Thank you,
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Re: Searching classes and forms for something specific

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My answer would be to roll your own as you have using the SCX/VCX as a 
table and looking at the baseclass and properties fields.


On 5/11/2021 10:12 PM, Tracy Pearson wrote:

Is there a search tool out there that can search for criteria such as the
following:
The Column.Sparse is set to False. That same Column has a TextBox baseclass
in it.

I have already slowly parsed most instances of the Sparse property in my
search.
I know I can write something that can search for this specific query as
well.
I'm curious if there is a tool to help in the future.

Thank you,
Tracy



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Re: <> "" vs. NOT EMPTY(field1) in SQL and the former is better than the latter

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This was the prologue to the SET ANSI OFF thread.  When I changed for 
optimization's sake (because the customer had complained that the 
original code was very slow), I got 0 results due to the legacy code 
having SET ANSI OFF.



On 5/11/2021 8:47 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:
In case you weren't aware that NOT EMPTY appears to be unable to use 
Rushmore optimization...


There is a regular index on the order.srep field.  I added the SETs to 
emulate the environment per legacy code.


The results are why I changed the original author's NOT EMPTY(field1) 
SQL to field1 <> "" instead:


CLEAR
OPEN DATABASE c:\temp\test SHARED
SET ANSI OFF
SET EXACT OFF
SET NEAR ON
LOCAL lcOpt as String
? SYS(3054,12,"lcOpt")

SELECT distinct srep FROM test!order WHERE srep <> "" INTO CURSOR crap

#IF .F.
    Results:
    SELECT distinct srep FROM test!order WHERE srep <> "" INTO CURSOR 
crap

    Using index tag Srep to rushmore optimize table order
    Rushmore optimization level for table order: partial
#ENDIF

SELECT distinct srep FROM test!order WHERE NOT EMPTY(srep) INTO CURSOR 
crap


#IF .F.
    Results:
    SELECT distinct srep FROM test!order WHERE NOT EMPTY(srep) INTO 
CURSOR crap

    Rushmore optimization level for table order: none
#ENDIF



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In case you weren't aware that NOT EMPTY appears to be unable to use 
Rushmore optimization...


There is a regular index on the order.srep field.  I added the SETs to 
emulate the environment per legacy code.


The results are why I changed the original author's NOT EMPTY(field1) 
SQL to field1 <> "" instead:


CLEAR
OPEN DATABASE c:\temp\test SHARED
SET ANSI OFF
SET EXACT OFF
SET NEAR ON
LOCAL lcOpt as String
? SYS(3054,12,"lcOpt")

SELECT distinct srep FROM test!order WHERE srep <> "" INTO CURSOR crap

#IF .F.
    Results:
    SELECT distinct srep FROM test!order WHERE srep <> "" INTO CURSOR crap
    Using index tag Srep to rushmore optimize table order
    Rushmore optimization level for table order: partial
#ENDIF

SELECT distinct srep FROM test!order WHERE NOT EMPTY(srep) INTO CURSOR crap

#IF .F.
    Results:
    SELECT distinct srep FROM test!order WHERE NOT EMPTY(srep) INTO 
CURSOR crap

    Rushmore optimization level for table order: none
#ENDIF


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SET ANSI OFF

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I was investigating why a simple query (SELECT DISTINCT srep FROM order 
WHERE srep <> "") worked on my machine and yet when deployed, it did NOT 
work.  Instead of returning several dozen names, it was returning zero.  
Now..."why did it work before?" Well, I had changed the query from using 
WHERE NOT EMPTY(srep) to what you see at the top of this post.


I figured it was the SET ANSI and confirmed it.  I see the original 
developer explicitly says in the startup code SET ANSI OFF.


I just can't understand why.  This is very old code so I ask those 
who've been in the Fox game since 2.x days---was this an advantage when 
using some sort of xBase approach?  I realize from VFP help that SET 
ANSI ON basically makes sure string comparisons are of equal length.


I'm nervous about changing the value at startup because there are 
probably areas where the code is COUNTING on it.  I see they also have 
SET NEAR ON and SET EXACT OFF.   I guess code where I'm putting my own 
SQL in there (or changing it), I should save their settings, set as I 
would normally work (EXACT ON, ANSI ON, NEAR OFF), and then restore 
their settings.  Kinda like that WorkAreaSave class that I learned (from 
Andy/Marcia?) way back when to use a lightweight class in a local 
variable to save the current work area when you start a 
procedure/function and then it restores it because the LOCAL variable is 
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Re: AW: Drag and Drop code

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Hi wOOdy,

I had time today to look at it moreso.  Looks like you're using the 
classic Drag method vs OLEDragDrop.  Hey, whatever works!  Am I right to 
say that native Fox objects like this (as opposed to pictures or 
whatever) are better suited for the non-OLE Drag methods?


tia,
--Mike


On 5/4/2021 9:13 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:

VERY COOL, wOOdy  How great that there's folks learning VFP yet. ;-)

I'll dig into this more later but at first try, this looks/works 
great.  An added bonus I wasn't seeing:  setting the Team Captain 
("Team X: Name") from the grids as well including adding the guy to 
the group (grid) below if he's not yet on that team!!!  Great feature 
add!!


--Mike


On 5/4/2021 1:07 AM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote:

Hi Mike

Funny, I just created a sample for you. See source here:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AujNq3xu6Q4_nYk-vAOY_wxoN97qEw?e=uF4yXu

Just a Quick'nDirty Example how you could do a Drag'n'Drop with Grids.
In pure coincidence I had a trainee for VFP onmy side, thus we did a 
learning session out of it.
We just recreated it based on your screenshot, we take no punishment 
for wrong scores or misspelled names :)


wOOdy


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Done with grids instead: https://www.screencast.com/t/5X7Mn6QDb5

Honestly, I think I used listviews ONCE in my 26 year history of 
FoxPro, and that was to echo a processing status on a dedicated 
Report/Print Server using VFP5/6 on a Novell Netware client network 
at KePRO, Inc in Harrisburg, PA.  :D



On 5/3/2021 5:22 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:

Hi wOOdy!

Oh believe me...grids would be S MUCH EASIER   I'm gonna
rebuild this with grids insteadbut my meeting with the Team
Captains was tonight at 8pm so I wasn't sure I'd get it done in time.
SWMBO wants to go grab some dinner now too.  Ugh.

Yes...I wanted to grab between sources to "trade" players from one
listbox/grid to the other.


On 5/3/2021 4:59 PM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote:

Just wondering:
Why not use Grids with AllowCellSelection = .f. and HighLightStyle 
= 2 ?

You'll get so much more possibilities (optical as well as technical)
in comparison to Listboxes

But back to your problem:
So you want to drag players from the left list to any of those Team
groups as well as criss-cross ?

wOOdy


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Many many moons ago I did some drag and drop code, but I have
forgotten completely and it's no longer in my possession anyway. I
want to drag names amongst a screen full of listboxes:
https://www.screencast.com/t/6M8XxvSFV

I know I need to code in the OLEDragDrop event and native VFP Help
sucks, not really showing me anything.

I was thinking the oDataObject was the listbox where the drag started
but no.  I tried to SET STEP ON but VFP says "CANCEL or SUSPEND is
not allowed."

LPARAMETERS oDataObject, nEffect, nButton, nShift, nXCoord, nYCoord
LOCAL loLB as ListBox loLB = oDataObject wait window loLB.ListCount
&& this fails

SET STEP ON  && this doesn't work either


I have the properties set correctly to allow me to drag from one list
to another but now I'm stuck.  Going to search the archives next but
throwing this out there in the meantime.  Was hoping to have
drag/drop implemented by the time I had a ZOOM call with my fellow
hockey captains to set the teams tonight!

tia,
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Re: _framewk,vct is missing or invalid, but it isn't and it's not.

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On 5/4/2021 4:15 PM, Vince Teachout wrote:
Wow, it sounds like the remote developers she works with are idiots.  
I think she should grab them by their scrawny neck, and slam them 
against the wall saying "Adhere  TO CURRENT PROGRAMMING 
PRACITICES  OR I WILL END YOU! "




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Re: _framewk,vct is missing or invalid, but it isn't and it's not.

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On 5/4/2021 9:31 AM, Frank Cazabon wrote:


Could it be anything to do with that old virtualisation thing that 
Windows used to do?




Agreed...this sounds like the "sandbox" gotcha reported years ago.



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Re: AW: Drag and Drop code

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VERY COOL, wOOdy  How great that there's folks learning VFP yet.  ;-)

I'll dig into this more later but at first try, this looks/works great.  
An added bonus I wasn't seeing:  setting the Team Captain ("Team X: 
Name") from the grids as well including adding the guy to the group 
(grid) below if he's not yet on that team!!!  Great feature add!!


--Mike


On 5/4/2021 1:07 AM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote:

Hi Mike

Funny, I just created a sample for you. See source here:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AujNq3xu6Q4_nYk-vAOY_wxoN97qEw?e=uF4yXu

Just a Quick'nDirty Example how you could do a Drag'n'Drop with Grids.
In pure coincidence I had a trainee for VFP onmy side, thus we did a learning 
session out of it.
We just recreated it based on your screenshot, we take no punishment for wrong 
scores or misspelled names :)

wOOdy


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Done with grids instead:  https://www.screencast.com/t/5X7Mn6QDb5

Honestly, I think I used listviews ONCE in my 26 year history of FoxPro, and 
that was to echo a processing status on a dedicated Report/Print Server using 
VFP5/6 on a Novell Netware client network at KePRO, Inc in Harrisburg, PA.  :D


On 5/3/2021 5:22 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:

Hi wOOdy!

Oh believe me...grids would be S MUCH EASIER   I'm gonna
rebuild this with grids insteadbut my meeting with the Team
Captains was tonight at 8pm so I wasn't sure I'd get it done in time.
SWMBO wants to go grab some dinner now too.  Ugh.

Yes...I wanted to grab between sources to "trade" players from one
listbox/grid to the other.


On 5/3/2021 4:59 PM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote:

Just wondering:
Why not use Grids with AllowCellSelection = .f. and HighLightStyle = 2 ?
You'll get so much more possibilities (optical as well as technical)
in comparison to Listboxes

But back to your problem:
So you want to drag players from the left list to any of those Team
groups as well as criss-cross ?

wOOdy


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Many many moons ago I did some drag and drop code, but I have
forgotten completely and it's no longer in my possession anyway. I
want to drag names amongst a screen full of listboxes:
https://www.screencast.com/t/6M8XxvSFV

I know I need to code in the OLEDragDrop event and native VFP Help
sucks, not really showing me anything.

I was thinking the oDataObject was the listbox where the drag started
but no.  I tried to SET STEP ON but VFP says "CANCEL or SUSPEND is
not allowed."

LPARAMETERS oDataObject, nEffect, nButton, nShift, nXCoord, nYCoord
LOCAL loLB as ListBox loLB = oDataObject wait window loLB.ListCount
&& this fails

SET STEP ON  && this doesn't work either


I have the properties set correctly to allow me to drag from one list
to another but now I'm stuck.  Going to search the archives next but
throwing this out there in the meantime.  Was hoping to have
drag/drop implemented by the time I had a ZOOM call with my fellow
hockey captains to set the teams tonight!

tia,
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Re: Drag and Drop code

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Done with grids instead:  https://www.screencast.com/t/5X7Mn6QDb5

Honestly, I think I used listviews ONCE in my 26 year history of FoxPro, 
and that was to echo a processing status on a dedicated Report/Print 
Server using VFP5/6 on a Novell Netware client network at KePRO, Inc in 
Harrisburg, PA.  :D



On 5/3/2021 5:22 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:

Hi wOOdy!

Oh believe me...grids would be S MUCH EASIER   I'm gonna 
rebuild this with grids insteadbut my meeting with the Team 
Captains was tonight at 8pm so I wasn't sure I'd get it done in time.  
SWMBO wants to go grab some dinner now too.  Ugh.


Yes...I wanted to grab between sources to "trade" players from one 
listbox/grid to the other.



On 5/3/2021 4:59 PM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote:

Just wondering:
Why not use Grids with AllowCellSelection = .f. and HighLightStyle = 2 ?
You'll get so much more possibilities (optical as well as technical) 
in comparison to Listboxes


But back to your problem:
So you want to drag players from the left list to any of those Team 
groups as well as criss-cross ?


wOOdy


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Many many moons ago I did some drag and drop code, but I have 
forgotten completely and it's no longer in my possession anyway. I 
want to drag names amongst a screen full of listboxes:

https://www.screencast.com/t/6M8XxvSFV

I know I need to code in the OLEDragDrop event and native VFP Help 
sucks, not really showing me anything.


I was thinking the oDataObject was the listbox where the drag started 
but no.  I tried to SET STEP ON but VFP says "CANCEL or SUSPEND is 
not allowed."


LPARAMETERS oDataObject, nEffect, nButton, nShift, nXCoord, nYCoord 
LOCAL loLB as ListBox loLB = oDataObject wait window loLB.ListCount  
&& this fails


SET STEP ON  && this doesn't work either


I have the properties set correctly to allow me to drag from one list 
to another but now I'm stuck.  Going to search the archives next but 
throwing this out there in the meantime.  Was hoping to have 
drag/drop implemented by the time I had a ZOOM call with my fellow 
hockey captains to set the teams tonight!


tia,
--Michael



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Re: Drag and Drop code

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Hi wOOdy!

Oh believe me...grids would be S MUCH EASIER   I'm gonna rebuild 
this with grids insteadbut my meeting with the Team Captains was 
tonight at 8pm so I wasn't sure I'd get it done in time.  SWMBO wants to 
go grab some dinner now too.  Ugh.


Yes...I wanted to grab between sources to "trade" players from one 
listbox/grid to the other.



On 5/3/2021 4:59 PM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote:

Just wondering:
Why not use Grids with AllowCellSelection = .f. and HighLightStyle = 2 ?
You'll get so much more possibilities (optical as well as technical) in 
comparison to Listboxes

But back to your problem:
So you want to drag players from the left list to any of those Team groups as 
well as criss-cross ?

wOOdy


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Many many moons ago I did some drag and drop code, but I have forgotten 
completely and it's no longer in my possession anyway. I want to drag names 
amongst a screen full of listboxes:
https://www.screencast.com/t/6M8XxvSFV

I know I need to code in the OLEDragDrop event and native VFP Help sucks, not 
really showing me anything.

I was thinking the oDataObject was the listbox where the drag started but no.  I tried to 
SET STEP ON but VFP says "CANCEL or SUSPEND is not allowed."

LPARAMETERS oDataObject, nEffect, nButton, nShift, nXCoord, nYCoord LOCAL loLB as 
ListBox loLB = oDataObject wait window loLB.ListCount  && this fails

SET STEP ON  && this doesn't work either


I have the properties set correctly to allow me to drag from one list to 
another but now I'm stuck.  Going to search the archives next but throwing this 
out there in the meantime.  Was hoping to have drag/drop implemented by the 
time I had a ZOOM call with my fellow hockey captains to set the teams tonight!

tia,
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Re: Drag and Drop code

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Funny you should mention the latter 
(http://www.aksel.com/whitepapers/DragDrop.htm).  I found that on Google 
search right after firing this post into the group here. His example fails


LPARAMETERS oDataObject, nEffect, nButton, nShift, nXCoord, nYCoord, nState

IF oDataobject.getformat(1)
   Lc = oDataobject.GetData(1)
   THIS.AddItem(lc)
ENDIF

IF oDataobject.getformat("VFP Source Object")
   lo = oDataobject.GetData("VFP Source Object")
   ** lo is now a pointer to the object itself

   FOR lni = 1 TO lo.ListItems && <-- this fails saying "Property 
ListItems is not found."


  IF lo.Selected(lni)
 MESSAGEBOX(lo.ListItems(lni))
  ENDIF
   ENDFOR
ENDIF


Off to Debug .


On 5/3/2021 3:50 PM, Frank Cazabon wrote:


Might help you with the debugging:

OLE Drag and Drop | Hacker’s Guide to Visual FoxPro 
(hackfox.github.io) <https://hackfox.github.io/section4/s4g830.html>


Might help with specifics:

Using Drag and Drop In Visual FoxPro (aksel.com) 
<http://www.aksel.com/whitepapers/DragDrop.htm>



Frank.

Frank Cazabon

On 03/05/2021 3:43 pm, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:
Many many moons ago I did some drag and drop code, but I have 
forgotten completely and it's no longer in my possession anyway. I 
want to drag names amongst a screen full of listboxes: 
https://www.screencast.com/t/6M8XxvSFV


I know I need to code in the OLEDragDrop event and native VFP Help 
sucks, not really showing me anything.


I was thinking the oDataObject was the listbox where the drag started 
but no.  I tried to SET STEP ON but VFP says "CANCEL or SUSPEND is 
not allowed."


LPARAMETERS oDataObject, nEffect, nButton, nShift, nXCoord, nYCoord
LOCAL loLB as ListBox
loLB = oDataObject
wait window loLB.ListCount  && this fails

SET STEP ON  && this doesn't work either


I have the properties set correctly to allow me to drag from one list 
to another but now I'm stuck.  Going to search the archives next but 
throwing this out there in the meantime.  Was hoping to have 
drag/drop implemented by the time I had a ZOOM call with my fellow 
hockey captains to set the teams tonight!


tia,
--Michael






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Drag and Drop code

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Many many moons ago I did some drag and drop code, but I have forgotten 
completely and it's no longer in my possession anyway. I want to drag 
names amongst a screen full of listboxes: 
https://www.screencast.com/t/6M8XxvSFV


I know I need to code in the OLEDragDrop event and native VFP Help 
sucks, not really showing me anything.


I was thinking the oDataObject was the listbox where the drag started 
but no.  I tried to SET STEP ON but VFP says "CANCEL or SUSPEND is not 
allowed."


LPARAMETERS oDataObject, nEffect, nButton, nShift, nXCoord, nYCoord
LOCAL loLB as ListBox
loLB = oDataObject
wait window loLB.ListCount  && this fails

SET STEP ON  && this doesn't work either


I have the properties set correctly to allow me to drag from one list to 
another but now I'm stuck.  Going to search the archives next but 
throwing this out there in the meantime.  Was hoping to have drag/drop 
implemented by the time I had a ZOOM call with my fellow hockey captains 
to set the teams tonight!


tia,
--Michael



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Re: VFP9 (and VFPA) on Windows 10 -- wish Mr. Chen would fix the visual bugs!

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No.  When I'm dragging the Project window (or is it the Properties 
window?) horizontally, it instantly shows a phantom outline to the 
right, far right of where I actually am in my drag/move operation.


On 4/29/2021 3:49 PM, Eric Selje wrote:

One of the very first bugs he fixed was a phantom shadow bug. Are you
talking about the one where if you drag a window it will leave a shadow of
the frame of the window artifcated all over the screen?

Eric

On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 11:29 AM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:


I finally moved my dev to a Windows 10 laptop.  Was using Win7 forever
prior.  The window dialog border "phantoms/shadows" is very annoying.
It'd be great if Mr. Chen fixed in addition to the other bugs he's fixed!

(I think I have his name wrong...I've looked on his
http://www.baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_gotovfpa64.asp site but I
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I finally moved my dev to a Windows 10 laptop.  Was using Win7 forever 
prior.  The window dialog border "phantoms/shadows" is very annoying.  
It'd be great if Mr. Chen fixed in addition to the other bugs he's fixed!


(I think I have his name wrong...I've looked on his 
http://www.baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_gotovfpa64.asp site but I 
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Re: looking for a multi-user alternative to view gmail emails

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On 4/23/2021 10:45 AM, Malcolm Greene wrote:

Ken,

Possible to configure gmail account to forward your support emails to multiple 
email addresses, eg. using a forwarding rule to replace your MS Exchange?
https://gsuitetips.com/tips/gmail/automatically-forward-emails-to-multiple-recipients/

Malcolm



That's what I do -- my mbss.b...@gmail.com forwards to my 
mbabc...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com account.  Likewise for some automatic 
reporting, clientn...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com forwards to their 
company's direct email accounts.


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Re: [NF] VS 2022 will be 64 bit they say.

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I remarked on this awhile back on my LinkedIn profile.  Why can't they 
come up with something new?  Why use the Floppy Disk image yet?!?  
Today's generation never even saw/used a floppy disk!



On 4/19/2021 2:24 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:

The brand image for Save is in need of an overhaul.
https://www.iconfinder.com/search/?q=save%20image

Does anyone under 25 know what a floppy disk was?

On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 12:04 PM Ed Leafe  wrote:


On Apr 19, 2021, at 11:31, Stephen Russell  wrote:

Also included are refreshed icons!  

I like how they “refreshed” the save icon by turning the floppy disk
upside-down! Now that’s super-fresh in 2022!

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More required to make things work nowadays (was Re: Paul McNett)

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just good ol Paul McNett.  lol)



On 4/2/2021 11:11 PM, Paul McNett wrote:



I do miss desktop app development and not needing a team of fronties, 
full stacks, product managers, ops and security people to stand up an 
enterprise app.


Paul



That's the thing with today's latest/greatestseems like you need 
many more parts now to make it work.  I'm probably mistaken, though, as 
why would it cost you more today (via all these other parts) to stand up 
apps compared to yesteryear?




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Re: Interesting Error 1426 on COPY TO (lcFile) FIELDS a, b, c FOR condition TYPE XL5

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The lcDocumentsPath code.

On 4/8/2021 3:44 PM, Frank Cazabon wrote:

Hey Mike, what exactly worked?

On 8 April 2021 13:34:30 GMT-04:00, "MB Software Solutions, LLC" 
 wrote:

Thanks, Frank and othersthat worked.


On 4/7/2021 8:52 AM, Frank Cazabon wrote:

Hi Mike,

have you worked this out yet?

On my Windows 10 PC, this line:

SYS(5) + ADDBS(GETENV("HOMEPATH")) + "Documents\"

gives me the correct path, however, maybe the sys(5) is returning the
incorrect drive? Possibly the documents folder is not in the same
folder as your default drive?

This is what I use to get the Documents folder:

#DEFINE CSIDL_PERSONAL 0x0005
LOCAL lcFolderPath, lcDocumentsPath
m.lcFolderPath = space(255)

DECLARE SHORT SHGetFolderPath IN SHFolder.dll ;
     INTEGER hwndOwner, INTEGER nFolder, INTEGER hToken, ;
     INTEGER dwFlags, STRING @pszPath

SHGetFolderPath(0, CSIDL_PERSONAL, 0, 0, @m.lcFolderPath)

m.lcDocumentsPath = Alltrim(m.lcFolderPath)

m.lcDocumentsPath = SubStr(m.lcDocumentsPath,1,

Len(m.lcDocumentsPath)

- 1)
RETURN ADDBS(m.lcDocumentsPath)

Maybe another possibility is you are trying to copy more data than
Excel can handle (I can't remember the limit from that version) or
maybe there is bad data, like a date before 1/1/1900?

But then again, those last 2 issues would probably only occur when
actually trying to open the file in Excel.

FWIW I use this code for creating Excel files these days:

         loExcel = NEWOBJECT("VFPxWorkbookXLSX",

"VFPxWorkbookXLSX.vcx")

         loExcel.SaveTabletoWorkbook(m.lcTable, m.lcXLSFile, .T., .T.)

I believe the URL for this utility is:

https://github.com/ggreen86/XLSX-Workbook-Class

Doug Hennig has a paper here that may be helpful if you want to
consider alternatives:

https://doughennig.com/papers/Pub/201607dhen.pdf

Frank.

Frank Cazabon

On 06/04/2021 1:56 pm, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:

I get this error when executing a COPY TO  TYPE XL5 line in a
program designed over a decade ago: /OLE error code 0x80030003:
Unknown COM status code. /

Interesting. I remoted into the guy's computer.  He said it's a
fairly new laptop (3 months old?) and it's version is 2102 (Build
13801.20360).  I fired up vRunFox.exe and did a simple xx =
CREATEOBJECT("Excel.Application") and it worked fine.  What's

strange

to me is that the line throwing that Error 1426 is not an Excel
automation line, but the COPY TO line.  I believe the problem is the
lcFile variable.  When this code was written, Vista was the latest
operating system.  You can see how I look at the OS() to select the
proper area for My Documents.

     *** mjb 03/03/2010 - changed for Vista and beyond
     IF VAL(SUBSTR(OS(),9,1)) >= 6 THEN && Vista doesn't use My
     lcDir = SYS(5) + ADDBS(GETENV("HOMEPATH")) +

"Documents\"

     ELSE && XP and below use My
     lcDir = SYS(5) + ADDBS(GETENV("HOMEPATH")) + "My

Documents\"

     ENDIF
     lcFile = ADDBS(lcDir) + "Inventory_" + DTOC(DATE(),1)
     *** mjb 06/26/2017 - added nbrdft, ntotbf
     IF this.lShowZeroQty THEN
     COPY TO (lcFile) FIELDS ccompany, cpalletsize,
cdescription, nqtyonhand, nprice, ntotvalue, nbrdft, ntotbf FOR
this.CustomerSelected(icustid) TYPE XL5
     ELSE
     COPY TO (lcFile) FIELDS ccompany, cpalletsize,
cdescription, nqtyonhand, nprice, ntotvalue, nbrdft, ntotbf FOR
this.CustomerSelected(icustid) AND nQtyOnHand > 0 TYPE XL5
     ENDIF

So in short, I think the fact that it's Error 1426 is misleading...I
doubt it's an Excel problem at all but in fact a problem with that
lcFile actual path derived.

I think somebody recently mentioned a Doug Hennig bit of code to

look

at the user's ACTUAL path to his documents area, iirc? I'll dig for
that later after an appt but wanted to throw this out there in the
meanwhile in case others have the "I had that happen to me and this
is how I fixed it!" kind of memory recall.  ;-)

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Re: Paul McNett

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On 4/2/2021 11:11 PM, Paul McNett wrote:


I do miss desktop app development and not needing a team of fronties, 
full stacks, product managers, ops and security people to stand up an 
enterprise app.


Paul



That's the thing with today's latest/greatestseems like you need 
many more parts now to make it work.  I'm probably mistaken, though, as 
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apps compared to yesteryear?



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Re: Interesting Error 1426 on COPY TO (lcFile) FIELDS a, b, c FOR condition TYPE XL5

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Thanks, Frank and othersthat worked.


On 4/7/2021 8:52 AM, Frank Cazabon wrote:

Hi Mike,

have you worked this out yet?

On my Windows 10 PC, this line:

SYS(5) + ADDBS(GETENV("HOMEPATH")) + "Documents\"

gives me the correct path, however, maybe the sys(5) is returning the 
incorrect drive? Possibly the documents folder is not in the same 
folder as your default drive?


This is what I use to get the Documents folder:

#DEFINE CSIDL_PERSONAL 0x0005
LOCAL lcFolderPath, lcDocumentsPath
m.lcFolderPath = space(255)

DECLARE SHORT SHGetFolderPath IN SHFolder.dll ;
    INTEGER hwndOwner, INTEGER nFolder, INTEGER hToken, ;
    INTEGER dwFlags, STRING @pszPath

SHGetFolderPath(0, CSIDL_PERSONAL, 0, 0, @m.lcFolderPath)

m.lcDocumentsPath = Alltrim(m.lcFolderPath)

m.lcDocumentsPath = SubStr(m.lcDocumentsPath,1, Len(m.lcDocumentsPath) 
- 1)

RETURN ADDBS(m.lcDocumentsPath)

Maybe another possibility is you are trying to copy more data than  
Excel can handle (I can't remember the limit from that version) or 
maybe there is bad data, like a date before 1/1/1900?


But then again, those last 2 issues would probably only occur when 
actually trying to open the file in Excel.


FWIW I use this code for creating Excel files these days:

        loExcel = NEWOBJECT("VFPxWorkbookXLSX", "VFPxWorkbookXLSX.vcx")
        loExcel.SaveTabletoWorkbook(m.lcTable, m.lcXLSFile, .T., .T.)

I believe the URL for this utility is:

https://github.com/ggreen86/XLSX-Workbook-Class

Doug Hennig has a paper here that may be helpful if you want to 
consider alternatives:


https://doughennig.com/papers/Pub/201607dhen.pdf

Frank.

Frank Cazabon

On 06/04/2021 1:56 pm, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:
I get this error when executing a COPY TO  TYPE XL5 line in a 
program designed over a decade ago: /OLE error code 0x80030003: 
Unknown COM status code. /


Interesting. I remoted into the guy's computer.  He said it's a 
fairly new laptop (3 months old?) and it's version is 2102 (Build 
13801.20360).  I fired up vRunFox.exe and did a simple xx = 
CREATEOBJECT("Excel.Application") and it worked fine.  What's strange 
to me is that the line throwing that Error 1426 is not an Excel 
automation line, but the COPY TO line.  I believe the problem is the 
lcFile variable.  When this code was written, Vista was the latest 
operating system.  You can see how I look at the OS() to select the 
proper area for My Documents.


    *** mjb 03/03/2010 - changed for Vista and beyond
    IF VAL(SUBSTR(OS(),9,1)) >= 6 THEN && Vista doesn't use My
    lcDir = SYS(5) + ADDBS(GETENV("HOMEPATH")) + "Documents\"
    ELSE && XP and below use My
    lcDir = SYS(5) + ADDBS(GETENV("HOMEPATH")) + "My Documents\"
    ENDIF
    lcFile = ADDBS(lcDir) + "Inventory_" + DTOC(DATE(),1)
    *** mjb 06/26/2017 - added nbrdft, ntotbf
    IF this.lShowZeroQty THEN
    COPY TO (lcFile) FIELDS ccompany, cpalletsize, 
cdescription, nqtyonhand, nprice, ntotvalue, nbrdft, ntotbf FOR 
this.CustomerSelected(icustid) TYPE XL5

    ELSE
    COPY TO (lcFile) FIELDS ccompany, cpalletsize, 
cdescription, nqtyonhand, nprice, ntotvalue, nbrdft, ntotbf FOR 
this.CustomerSelected(icustid) AND nQtyOnHand > 0 TYPE XL5

    ENDIF

So in short, I think the fact that it's Error 1426 is misleading...I 
doubt it's an Excel problem at all but in fact a problem with that 
lcFile actual path derived.


I think somebody recently mentioned a Doug Hennig bit of code to look 
at the user's ACTUAL path to his documents area, iirc? I'll dig for 
that later after an appt but wanted to throw this out there in the 
meanwhile in case others have the "I had that happen to me and this 
is how I fixed it!" kind of memory recall.  ;-)


tia,
--Mike







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Re: Virtual Fox Fest 2021 (May): Time to Register

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The Emporer's New Clothes?  lol


On 4/6/2021 4:42 PM, Eric Selje wrote:

I got a virtual shirt! I wore it to the store and got kicked out :(

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 12:52 PM Richard Kaye  wrote:


See you there!

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Subject: RE: Virtual Fox Fest 2021 (May): Time to Register

Okay, I got my Virtual Fox Fest 2021 shirt. I'm ready for the gathering in
a month!

Tracy

-Original Message-
From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Rick Schummer
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 3:57 PM
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: Virtual Fox Fest 2021 (May): Time to Register

Thanks to all who have already registered for Virtual Fox Fest (
https://virtualfoxfest.com; May 6, 2021); we appreciate your support and
our speakers are excited to share their sessions with you soon.

That said, we know there are those who have not registered and have good
intentions to do so before the conference starts. Please do so sooner than
later. It literally takes minutes to register. Here is the link:
http://geekgatherings.com/Registration

Our Virtual Fox Fest shirt store has been updated for 2021! Check it out
at https://geekgatherings.logosoftwear.com/.
You can choose your favorite color or put the VFF logo on any item
LogoSoftwear sells. You'll find instructions for customizing your purchase
at https://virtualfoxfest.com/geekwear.aspx.

After much consideration, we've decided to stick with a virtual event this
fall. It will be structured similarly to Virtual Fox Fest 2020. Dates will
be announced later. We're already looking forward to a live Southwest Fox
in 2022.

Rick
White Light Computing, Inc.

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Interesting Error 1426 on COPY TO (lcFile) FIELDS a, b, c FOR condition TYPE XL5

[MB Software Solutions, LLC]

I get this error when executing a COPY TO  TYPE XL5 line in a 
program designed over a decade ago: /OLE error code 0x80030003: Unknown 
COM status code. /


Interesting. I remoted into the guy's computer.  He said it's a fairly 
new laptop (3 months old?) and it's version is 2102 (Build 
13801.20360).  I fired up vRunFox.exe and did a simple xx = 
CREATEOBJECT("Excel.Application") and it worked fine.  What's strange to 
me is that the line throwing that Error 1426 is not an Excel automation 
line, but the COPY TO line.  I believe the problem is the lcFile 
variable.  When this code was written, Vista was the latest operating 
system.  You can see how I look at the OS() to select the proper area 
for My Documents.


*** mjb 03/03/2010 - changed for Vista and beyond
IF VAL(SUBSTR(OS(),9,1)) >= 6 THEN && Vista doesn't use My
lcDir = SYS(5) + ADDBS(GETENV("HOMEPATH")) + 
"Documents\"
ELSE && XP and below use My
lcDir = SYS(5) + ADDBS(GETENV("HOMEPATH")) + "My 
Documents\"
ENDIF   
lcFile = ADDBS(lcDir) + "Inventory_" + DTOC(DATE(),1)
*** mjb 06/26/2017 - added nbrdft, ntotbf
IF this.lShowZeroQty THEN
COPY TO (lcFile) FIELDS ccompany, cpalletsize, 
cdescription, nqtyonhand, nprice, ntotvalue, nbrdft, ntotbf FOR 
this.CustomerSelected(icustid) TYPE XL5
ELSE
COPY TO (lcFile) FIELDS ccompany, cpalletsize, 
cdescription, nqtyonhand, nprice, ntotvalue, nbrdft, ntotbf FOR 
this.CustomerSelected(icustid) AND nQtyOnHand > 0 TYPE XL5
ENDIF

So in short, I think the fact that it's Error 1426 is misleading...I 
doubt it's an Excel problem at all but in fact a problem with that 
lcFile actual path derived.


I think somebody recently mentioned a Doug Hennig bit of code to look at 
the user's ACTUAL path to his documents area, iirc?  I'll dig for that 
later after an appt but wanted to throw this out there in the meanwhile 
in case others have the "I had that happen to me and this is how I fixed 
it!" kind of memory recall.  ;-)


tia,
--Mike




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Re: Paul McNett

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I answered my own question.  He's apparently the Engineering Director at 
Lucid Design Group (Acuity Brands) in Hollister, CA.


https://www.linkedin.com/in/pmcnett/


On 4/2/2021 2:38 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:
Ed's recent post about the 2010 Dabo video made me wonder about Paul. 
Anybody know what he's up to nowadays?  Haven't seen him here in years.





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Ed's recent post about the 2010 Dabo video made me wonder about Paul.  
Anybody know what he's up to nowadays?  Haven't seen him here in years.



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Re: [NF] Desktop Development in the roaring 20s

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On 4/2/2021 10:26 AM, Ed Leafe wrote:

On Mar 31, 2021, at 14:11, Paul Hemans  wrote:

I built an app that allows access to local devices and data while still
being a browser, if anyone needs help in that area.

I built a desktop app that communicates with a server via HTTP, allowing the 
app to update itself, with all the logic on the server, so that the app was a 
lightweight client, like a browser.

Back in 2010.

https://pyvideo.org/pycon-us-2010/creating-rich-client-applications-using-dabo.html



The last Loader utility I did (for FabNet years ago) looks at a MySQL 
database on the internet to see if there are any updated versions and if 
so, asks the user if they want to upgrade.  That was many years ago as 
well.  Works very seamlessly to download and run the new installer and 
immediately exit the current app to allow it without issue.





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Re: [NF] Desktop Development in the roaring 20s

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It used to be that you could get a much richer user experience in a 
desktop app compared to a web app for many head-down data entry kinds of 
apps.  Is that still true to the most extent?



On 3/29/2021 10:32 AM, Stephen Russell wrote:

Most of the group will remember Robert Green.

https://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Visual-Studio-Toolbox/Choices-in-Desktop-Development


An easy quick session that explains various opportunities available today.
The statement Apps are Apps is so true.




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Re: VFP 9 SP2 3 Hot Fix descriptions

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I created a quick app for my former coworker just before I got laid off 
this month using VFPA.  It's really no different at all from my 
experience...it's just VFP9SP2 with more bug fixes.  ;-)


--Mike


On 3/16/2021 1:34 AM, Bill Anderson wrote:

Mike,

I'd consider looking at VFPA way down the road due to the enormity of this
application. Gotta digest this app first before that type of
fix/enhancement.

Bill Anderson

On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 10:12 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:


Hi Bill,

I know there's a comprehensive listing somewhere, but I wanted to ask if
you'd consider our Chinese friend's VFPA Advanced version? (Visual
FoxPro 10.00..1909 for Windows)

He's got more fixes beyond what M$ did.

--Mike


On 3/15/2021 5:32 PM, Bill Anderson wrote:

Folks,

I know that the main point of the VFP 9 SP2 hot fixes was to fix a new
report grouping bug. That's fine and dandy.

What about the other two? I believe one of them pertained to data

sessions

and perhaps settings in one showing in another DS...that's the one I'm
curious about.

Any posted information on these?

TIA,

Bill Anderson


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Re: VFP 9 SP2 3 Hot Fix descriptions

[MB Software Solutions, LLC]

Hi Bill,

I know there's a comprehensive listing somewhere, but I wanted to ask if 
you'd consider our Chinese friend's VFPA Advanced version? (Visual 
FoxPro 10.00..1909 for Windows)


He's got more fixes beyond what M$ did.

--Mike


On 3/15/2021 5:32 PM, Bill Anderson wrote:

Folks,

I know that the main point of the VFP 9 SP2 hot fixes was to fix a new
report grouping bug. That's fine and dandy.

What about the other two? I believe one of them pertained to data sessions
and perhaps settings in one showing in another DS...that's the one I'm
curious about.

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TIA,

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Re: Citrix issue or network issue?

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WAG:  SET TABLEVALIDATE TO 0 ???

On 3/15/2021 5:40 PM, Bill Anderson wrote:

Folks,

I'm working on a VFP 9 app that is having issues with Citrix. Or at least
that is their explanation. This client upgraded both Citrix and their
Windows 2003 Server to something like Windows 2008 or 2012, I don't
remember at the moment.

Anyway, they're getting random errors in code that's perfectly solid -
something as simple at this:

USE 
BROWSE

...and the Browse will throw an error of "Table not open." on rare
occasion.

Thoughts on where to look?

TIA,

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Re: CRS and Generating a Data Dictionary.

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That's it...knew I heard that right.  Thanks for the links, Ted!


On 3/10/2021 3:47 PM, Ted Roche wrote:

https://doughennig.blogspot.com/2020/01/stonefield-database-toolkit-is-now-open.html

https://github.com/DougHennig/StonefieldDatabaseToolkit


On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 3:38 PM Vince Teachout  wrote:


On 03/10/21 11:37 AM, Vince Teachout wrote:

I seem to recall that there was some built in way (or sample tool)
that came with VFP that did this, but am blanking out. Anybody recall
this?

Thanks, all!  I'll look to see if I still have SDT, but if not, I do
recall having looped through ATables before, and may still have that
code somewhere.   Thanks again!



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Re: CRS and Generating a Data Dictionary.

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Also, iirc, Stonefield Database Toolkit was made open source awhile 
back.  Even at cost, it's super worth it.  Provides great documentation 
too.  I work with VFP databases with one client and it makes database 
management so much easier than without it.


On 3/10/2021 11:44 AM, Richard Kaye wrote:

IRCC VFP has a wizard for that.

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Subject: CRS and Generating a Data Dictionary.

My brain doesn't want to work, and I don't want to end up re-inventing the 
wheel.

I need to generate a basic data dictionary for a database -tables, fieldnames, 
data type and length.

I seem to recall that there was some built in way (or sample tool) that came 
with VFP that did this, but am blanking out. Anybody recall this?

Thank you!



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Re: Debenu.com/FoxItSoftware for creating PDFs

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Yes, my plan is to use Task Scheduler to call my VFP EXE.  I've got a 
few scheduled tasks running Fox apps.  Works great!



On 3/9/2021 10:06 AM, Frank Cazabon wrote:
I would consider creating a Windows service to do that, or maybe a 
scheduled job in Task Scheduler. I'd probably use C# :0)


Frank.

Frank Cazabon

On 09/03/2021 10:13 am, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:
If this were your task (/Task: Create PDFs via scheduled job calls of 
my Fox EXE for creating "reports at certain times of day" for 
historical review for various users to view for their own data/), how 
would you implement it?  Remember this is a seamless process running 
on the Server, creating the various reports for various individual 
users, and to access them, they go to their "My Reports" link on 
either the website (this is a WWWC app) or the equivalent in their 
desktop application.



On 3/9/2021 12:45 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:
Task: Create PDFs via scheduled job calls of my Fox EXE for creating 
"reports at certain times of day" for historical review for various 
users to view for their own data.


I know XFRX creates PDFs easily (along with other outputs like 
Excel) but I already have the QuickPDF tool in my arsenal from 
FoxItSofware.com (formerly DebEnu.com) and FoxIt's software has a 
LOT of features for password-protecting PDFs among others.


Has anyone implemented FoxIt's tools in their apps for creating PDFs?

tia,
--Mike









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