Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator DATE$

2013-01-23 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz

On 22/01/2013 10:43, John Hall wrote:
 Has anyone else noticed a time offset between the host OS time and
 the SMSQ/E time?

 My SMSQ/E time is +2 hours (running on XP Pro SP3 with JRE6 Update
 32 as a limited user)...


OK, this is indeed a genuine bug.

Thank you John, for pointing it out.

I had tested my time adjustment (from Java to SMSQE  vice-versa) during 
summer time, and it was OK (no time difference). Now even here there is 
a one hour difference, the clock is one hour early (ie. it 9 am and the 
SMSQE clock shows 10).


This is obviously due to the change from summer to winter time.
The computer's internal clock still has the summer time, and Java gives 
me that, and not the adjusted summer/winter time.


I thought I was going to take the easy way out of this and make the time 
difference a configurable value - which you'd probably have to adjust 
twice a year when switching between summer/winter time. But I thought 
this was something one could live with.


However, under linux at least, there is some problem with the time of 
files on NFA/SFA devices: those files that were saved (even from within 
Linux itself) during summer time show the right time under SMSQE - but 
those that are saved now have the time difference. This is pretty 
bewildering, because it would mean that the ext4 file system stores the 
time + the time difference due to summer/winter time.(???).


I'll have to check that.

Wolfgang

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator DATE$

2013-01-23 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz

On 23/01/2013 09:13, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:


However, under linux at least, there is some problem with the time of
files on NFA/SFA devices: those files that were saved (even from within
Linux itself) during summer time show the right time under SMSQE - but
those that are saved now have the time difference. This is pretty
bewildering, because it would mean that the ext4 file system stores the
time + the time difference due to summer/winter time.(???).

No, of course it doesn't - it seems that most file managers interpret 
the file time differently depending on whether it would fall within 
winter or summer time.


Wolfgang


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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator DATE$

2013-01-23 Thread John
On 23/01/13 00:37:15, Timothy Swenson wrote:
 Can others in other time zones check their systems and see if 
 SMSQmulator is defaulting to the same time zone?

In UK on UTC (GMT) Linux box with NTP running
$ date
Wed Jan 23 09:33:51 MT 2013

SMSQmulator
print date$
2013 Jan 23 11:33:56

So yes two hours out

Regards
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[Ql-Users] SMSQmulator on Linux

2013-01-23 Thread Alex Wells
Hi Wolfgang,

Many thanks to you all for SMSQmulator. Brilliant job!

SMSQmulator seems to work very well, using the boot supplied, or my QPC2 boot 
to start it. The only problems with my QPC2 boot were trivial - no 
QPC_SYNCSCRAP (!##!) and menu_rext must be a non-QPC2 version.

I suspect uQLx (with Minerva rom)  QPC2 (running under 'wine') will get much 
less usage in future.

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator

2013-01-23 Thread Bryan Horstmann

On 22/01/2013 08:58, Dilwyn Jones wrote:

1. Make sure your computer has Java 6 or 7 installed (if not, try
downloading from http://www.java.com/en/download/index.jsp)

2. Get SMSQmulator from Wolfgang Lenerz's website at
http://www.wlenerz.com/SMSQmulator

3. It downloads as a zip file. Unzip this into a folder on your Windows hard
disk.

4. Double click on the SMSQmulator.jar file (or make a shortcut to it from
your desktop or start menu in the usual Windows way!). That's all - the
emulator should now start.

5. It starts up with a QXL.WIN called SMSQmulator.win automatically, giving
you three games and a copy of Xchange (which has to be run in a screen size
of at least 512x512 or it won't work properly) you can use straight away.

6. It comes with a couple of PDF file manuals in the zip file which will
tell you everything you need to use SMSQmulator!

Enjoy!

Dilwyn Jones


Thanks Dilwyn, but how do I find the Java version. please?  It just 
seems to ask to install updates from time to time, which I accept.


Bryan H

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator

2013-01-23 Thread Norman Dunbar

On 23/01/13 11:21, Bryan Horstmann wrote:

Thanks Dilwyn, but how do I find the Java version. please?  It just
seems to ask to install updates from time to time, which I accept.


The command java -version should give you something like:

java version 1.7.0_10
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_10-b18)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.6-b04, mixed mode)

1.7 is Java 7, 1.6 is Java 6. Don't ask me why they call it that!

HTH

Cheers,
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator DATE$

2013-01-23 Thread Norman Dunbar
At the risk of teaching granny to suck eggs, and hopefully Wolfgang 
will forgive me, but does this help?


http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/util/TimeZone.html

There's a getOffset function that seems to be able to work out the 
correct time offset from UTC for a given locale.


Not being a Java guru, I have no idea if it works! However, I'd also 
wonder what happens when the time is coming in from NTP and there's a 
setting to adjust for daylight savings time - which I can't remember 
if Windows has.


Linux doesn't. At least, not in KDE anyway, I have my systems running 
with the NTP server setting the clock, and all seems well at present.


The hardware clock, on the other hand, I have no idea what it is set to.

So, we could have three problems:

* the hardware clock is wrong;
* the hardware clock is adjusting the time;
* Java is also adjusting the time;

HTH

Cheers,
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator

2013-01-23 Thread Dilwyn Jones

Thanks Dilwyn, but how do I find the Java version. please?  It just
seems to ask to install updates from time to time, which I accept.

Bryan H


I'm not sure if there is a better way than this but here is how I achieved
this on Windoze 7:

Method 1: In the start menu search box, type in Java, when the result (might
be 'Java 32 bit')  appears, it will start up the Java control Panel. In the
General tab, click on About. On mine, for example, it shows version 7 update
10 just under the red Java logo.

Method 2: go to Control Panel, Click on PROGRAMS, then locate JAVA in the
list, this brings up the same Java control panel as in method 1.

Good luck!

Dilwyn



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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator DATE$

2013-01-23 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz

Hi,

Norman Dunbar wrote:


At the risk of teaching granny to suck eggs, and hopefully Wolfgang
will forgive me, but does this help?

http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/util/TimeZone.html



Defintely, yes! I now use that TimeZone object.

Thanks a lot.

During my lunch time, I've made a new version, which is on the website.
Hopefully this will get rid of the date problem.
I haven't had time to test this version on windows, I don't have a 
windows machine here...


I'd appreciate comments on whether the new version does get rid of the 
date problem - it does here



Not being a Java guru, I have no idea if it works! However, I'd also
wonder what happens when the time is coming in from NTP and there's a
setting to adjust for daylight savings time - which I can't remember
if Windows has.

Linux doesn't. At least, not in KDE anyway, I have my systems running
with the NTP server setting the clock, and all seems well at present.




IIRC, Java gets the system time from the OS, so it shouldn't matter how 
the time is set by the OS (I use ntp, too ).


Moreover,
Bryan Horstman wrote:

 Thanks Dilwyn, but how do I find the Java version. please?  It just
 seems to ask to install updates from time to time, which I accept.


If you download any of the versions you can read the anwser to your 
questions in Timothy Swenson's great userguide, inside the zip file



And finally,
Alew Well wrote :

 the only problems with my QPC2 boot were trivial - no
 QPC_SYNCSCRAP (!##!) and menu_rext must be a non-QPC2 version.


Is the Menu Extension SCRAP - (your OS) clipboard exchange a generally 
asked-for feature?


I'm really rusty on using the menu extension things, but next weekend, I 
could have a look at that.


I have used the same menu extensions as I have always used (I just use 
my old QPC boot on my normal qxl.win file) - I wasn't even aware there 
is a special QPC version (what's different?).



Wolfgang


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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator DATE$

2013-01-23 Thread Norman Dunbar

On 23/01/13 13:17, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:


Defintely, yes! I now use that TimeZone object.
Thanks a lot.

No worries, you are very welcome.



IIRC, Java gets the system time from the OS, so it shouldn't matter how
the time is set by the OS (I use ntp, too ).
I have had problems in the past with my  times being an hour out. The 
clock was set to NTP but, the hardware clock was set to BST (I think) 
because that's what it was set to when the PC was first set up.


Reading the time was ok, because NTP set it to UTC aka GMT but some 
software was reading the hardware clock and some was adjusting for 
BST/UTC as appropriate, and getting it all wrong.


This was Windows 2000 by the way.

Confused? I was! ;-)


Cheers,
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator

2013-01-23 Thread Bryan Horstmann

On 23/01/2013 11:50, Dilwyn Jones wrote:

Thanks Dilwyn, but how do I find the Java version. please?  It just
seems to ask to install updates from time to time, which I accept.

Bryan H


I'm not sure if there is a better way than this but here is how I 
achieved

this on Windoze 7:

Method 1: In the start menu search box, type in Java, when the result 
(might
be 'Java 32 bit')  appears, it will start up the Java control Panel. 
In the
General tab, click on About. On mine, for example, it shows version 7 
update

10 just under the red Java logo.

Method 2: go to Control Panel, Click on PROGRAMS, then locate JAVA in the
list, this brings up the same Java control panel as in method 1.

Good luck!

Dilwyn
For inlo, Dilwyn.  In Vista the first method flashes up a page of text 
which immediately disappears


IN Control Panel, Programs Java wasn't listed!!   I tried again after 
lunch and there were now two items, Java 6 update 22 and Java 6 update 
33.  The only action available by clicking on them is to un-install; no 
details.  Why it has kept the old version I don't know.  Perhaps I 
should get the latest 7 from the site if it is compatible.


Bryan H
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator

2013-01-23 Thread Timothy Swenson

On 1/23/2013 3:21 AM, Bryan Horstmann wrote:

but how do I find the Java version. please?


This is documented in the SMSQmulator User Guide.  Use the 'java 
-version' command.


Tim

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator

2013-01-23 Thread Bryan Horstmann

On 23/01/2013 02:59, Timothy Swenson wrote:

On 1/23/2013 3:21 AM, Bryan Horstmann wrote:

but how do I find the Java version. please?


This is documented in the SMSQmulator User Guide.  Use the 'java 
-version' command.


Tim

Ahh, now I've got it thanks Tim;  java (space)(hyphen)version. That 
tells me 1.6.33, so the 1.6.22 program folder is just wasting 98Mb and 
could be deleted possibly?


Bryan H
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator

2013-01-23 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz

Hi,

in your place I would :

download v. 7 u 11 from Oracle's website.

Go to your control panel, software and uninstall all old versions of java.

Install the newest one you just downloaded.

Wolfgang
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Re: [Ql-Users] Rawread

2013-01-23 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz

This might help?

http://reboot.pro/topic/14354-buidlingmodifying-floppy-images-with-mtools-as-replacement-for-winimageimdisk/

Le 23/01/2013 15:55, Dilwyn Jones a écrit :

On my website there’s an article by IIRC Timothy Swenson about the use of 
RAWREAD and RAWRITE to create and write disk image files.

Someone asked me (presumably trying out SMSQmulator) if there is a 64-bit 
Windows version of RAWREAD or RAWRITE, or equivalent software (RAWREAD is a DOS 
program which doesn’t run in 64-bit environments).

I assume it might be possible to run 32-bit programs in something like virtual 
box too.

Another solution gleaned from reading the Tim Swenson manual with the emulator 
is to use the QDC (Quintessential Disk Cloner from QLTools to create a floppy 
image, although I haven’t yet got round to testing if this works on 64-bit 
Windows or not).

Dilwyn Jones

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator

2013-01-23 Thread Dilwyn Jones

1/23/2013 3:21 AM, Bryan Horstmann wrote:

but how do I find the Java version. please?


This is documented in the SMSQmulator User Guide.  Use the 'java -version' 
command.


Tim
I know nothing about Java. When I try this from Windows CMD box, it gives 
'java' is not recognised as an internal or external command, operable 
program or batch file


Even when in the Sun/Java folder???

Dilwyn 


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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator

2013-01-23 Thread Norman Dunbar

Dilwyn, Brian,

open a command session (aka dosbox)

type the command java -version without any quotes and press return.

You will get a response that says something like:

Java version 1.x.y.z-bnn

X = the Java version 6, 7, whatever.
Y = minor release of X
Z = update number.
bnn = build number.

Using Control panel, in XP, I didn't have Programs, but I did have Java.
Double-clicking it opened a dialogue.
On the Genearl tab is an about button. I clicked it.
It said Java 6 Standard Edition in the heading, and beneath that it 
said version 6, update 29 (build 1.6.0_29-b11)


That corresponds to my 1.x.y.z which is 1.6.0_29-b11.

HTH

Cheers,
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator

2013-01-23 Thread Norman Dunbar

On 23/01/13 15:24, Dilwyn Jones wrote:


I know nothing about Java. When I try this from Windows CMD box, it
gives 'java' is not recognised as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file

Even when in the Sun/Java folder???


You've broken it again! ;-)

Just wondering, I replied to this thread earlier on this morning with 
details of how to use the java -version command in a Dos box to get 
your version, did it arrive?


Just wondering.


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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator

2013-01-23 Thread Ralf Reköndt

From: SMSQE


Not as quick as QPC2, but very acceptable speed and (better than QPC2) it
handles the keyboard without a problemmeaning I have access to # and
other characters I can't easily get under QPC2! 


I never had (and have) problems with the keyboard with QPC2...???

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator

2013-01-23 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Not on my system it doesn't in a dos box!!! That's exactly what I typed in. 
It gives the error I mentioned earlier. Must be some setup option or paths 
option which affects this.


The view in Control Panel varies between Windows versions, obviously.

Dilwyn

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Dilwyn, Brian,

open a command session (aka dosbox)

type the command java -version without any quotes and press return.

You will get a response that says something like:

Java version 1.x.y.z-bnn

X = the Java version 6, 7, whatever.
Y = minor release of X
Z = update number.
bnn = build number.

Using Control panel, in XP, I didn't have Programs, but I did have Java.
Double-clicking it opened a dialogue.
On the Genearl tab is an about button. I clicked it.
It said Java 6 Standard Edition in the heading, and beneath that it
said version 6, update 29 (build 1.6.0_29-b11)

That corresponds to my 1.x.y.z which is 1.6.0_29-b11.

HTH

Cheers,
Norm.


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Re: [Ql-Users] Rawread

2013-01-23 Thread Dilwyn Jones

Ah, thank you. Floopy is simple enough even for me :o)
And cheap enough for me too (Freeware!)
I tested it with a USB floppy as drive A: on my Windows 7 64-bit PC and it 
successfully if slowly created a disk image of a HD QL disk in about 10 
minutes. It won't handle 720KB QL disks (it recognised it as such), only 1.4 
MB ones on this system at least. Probably because Win7 doesn't handle 720K 
disks.


MTools can be a bit overpowering with all those command line options.

And I tested the Jonathan Hudson QDC, that also doesn't run on Win 7 64-bit.

Dilwyn

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And also
http://neofreeman.freepgs.com/maxpert/floopy.php

Le 23/01/2013 15:55, Dilwyn Jones a écrit :
On my website there’s an article by IIRC Timothy Swenson about the use of 
RAWREAD and RAWRITE to create and write disk image files.


Someone asked me (presumably trying out SMSQmulator) if there is a 64-bit 
Windows version of RAWREAD or RAWRITE, or equivalent software (RAWREAD is 
a DOS program which doesn’t run in 64-bit environments).


I assume it might be possible to run 32-bit programs in something like 
virtual box too.


Another solution gleaned from reading the Tim Swenson manual with the 
emulator is to use the QDC (Quintessential Disk Cloner from QLTools to 
create a floppy image, although I haven’t yet got round to testing if this 
works on 64-bit Windows or not).


Dilwyn Jones
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator

2013-01-23 Thread SMSQE
I think the keyboard issue is specific to my Lenovo desktop pc...not sure
what the problem actually is, but in QPC I don't get the correct characters
from the keyboard making work difficult. SMSQmulator fixes it

jon

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From: SMSQE

 Not as quick as QPC2, but very acceptable speed and (better than QPC2) 
 it handles the keyboard without a problemmeaning I have access to 
 # and other characters I can't easily get under QPC2!

I never had (and have) problems with the keyboard with QPC2...???

Cheers...Ralf
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator

2013-01-23 Thread Tony Firshman

Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 23/Jan/13 16:01 | Jan23:

Not on my system it doesn't in a dos box!!! That's exactly what I typed
in. It gives the error I mentioned earlier. Must be some setup option or
paths option which affects this.

The view in Control Panel varies between Windows versions, obviously.

That may be because your java is old (or non-existent!).
I got the same issue under my Windows Server 2008 standard (based on 
Windows 7).  I installed Java via http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp 
 and it then gave:


c:\Users\Administratorjava -version
java version 1.7.7_11
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_11-b21)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.6-b04, mixed mode)

Tony


Dilwyn

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Dilwyn, Brian,

open a command session (aka dosbox)

type the command java -version without any quotes and press return.

You will get a response that says something like:

Java version 1.x.y.z-bnn

X = the Java version 6, 7, whatever.
Y = minor release of X
Z = update number.
bnn = build number.

Using Control panel, in XP, I didn't have Programs, but I did have Java.
Double-clicking it opened a dialogue.
On the Genearl tab is an about button. I clicked it.
It said Java 6 Standard Edition in the heading, and beneath that it
said version 6, update 29 (build 1.6.0_29-b11)

That corresponds to my 1.x.y.z which is 1.6.0_29-b11.

HTH

Cheers,
Norm.





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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator

2013-01-23 Thread George Gwilt

On 23 Jan 2013, at 16:02, Ralf Reköndt wrote:

 
 Not as quick as QPC2, but very acceptable speed and (better than QPC2) it
 handles the keyboard without a problemmeaning I have access to # and
 other characters I can't easily get under QPC2! 
 
 I never had (and have) problems with the keyboard with QPC2...???

I use QPC2 on Windows XP under VMware on a MAC. To get # (I just used ALT/3 
here) I use the |\ key (where hash would be on a normal QL keyboard.

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator

2013-01-23 Thread SMSQE
Yes, I tried all (I think) these combinations when I first got my PC...the
|\ key gives nothing at all evebn with SHIFT, CTRL, ALT, etc. ALT/3 gives 3,
etc. I can get at some characters using clavier, but I have to use parts of
the keyboard that work normally under QPC for them to work with the clavier
mappings. Quite a few keys just don't work properly...strange. But, as I
say, they do under SMSQmulator so I can probably start SBASIC coding again!

Jon

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On 23 Jan 2013, at 16:02, Ralf Reköndt wrote:

 
 Not as quick as QPC2, but very acceptable speed and (better than 
 QPC2) it handles the keyboard without a problemmeaning I have 
 access to # and other characters I can't easily get under QPC2!
 
 I never had (and have) problems with the keyboard with QPC2...???

I use QPC2 on Windows XP under VMware on a MAC. To get # (I just used ALT/3
here) I use the |\ key (where hash would be on a normal QL keyboard.

George
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator

2013-01-23 Thread Dilwyn Jones

That may be because your java is old (or non-existent!).

Java 7 Update 10.

Maybe a reinstall is in order...

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator

2013-01-23 Thread George Gwilt

On 23 Jan 2013, at 16:39, SMSQE wrote:

 Yes, I tried all (I think) these combinations when I first got my PC...the
 |\ key gives nothing at all evebn with SHIFT, CTRL, ALT, etc. ALT/3 gives 3,
 etc. I can get at some characters using clavier, but I have to use parts of
 the keyboard that work normally under QPC for them to work with the clavier
 mappings. Quite a few keys just don't work properly...strange. But, as I
 say, they do under SMSQmulator so I can probably start SBASIC coding again!
 
 Jon
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com
 [mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of George Gwilt
 Sent: 23 January 2013 16:28
 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator
 
 
 On 23 Jan 2013, at 16:02, Ralf Reköndt wrote:
 
 
 Not as quick as QPC2, but very acceptable speed and (better than 
 QPC2) it handles the keyboard without a problemmeaning I have 
 access to # and other characters I can't easily get under QPC2!
 
 I never had (and have) problems with the keyboard with QPC2...???
 
 I use QPC2 on Windows XP under VMware on a MAC. To get # (I just used ALT/3
 here) I use the |\ key (where hash would be on a normal QL keyboard.
 
 George

When I take QPC2 abroad (USA or Germany for example) I have found trouble with 
keyboards. One trouble was with the |\ symbols. What I did was to use the ?/ 
symbols on the foreign keyboard to produce the ones I wanted. This was done by 
putting in the BOOT the instructions

Altkey '/',CHR$(92) to get \ and

Altkey '?',CHR$(124) to get |

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator

2013-01-23 Thread Dilwyn Jones

Yes, I tried all (I think) these combinations when I first got my PC...the
|\ key gives nothing at all evebn with SHIFT, CTRL, ALT, etc. ALT/3 gives 
3,
etc. I can get at some characters using clavier, but I have to use parts 
of
the keyboard that work normally under QPC for them to work with the 
clavier

mappings. Quite a few keys just don't work properly...strange. But, as I
say, they do under SMSQmulator so I can probably start SBASIC coding 
again!


Jon
We do hear about this from time to time, the classic being that in the QPC 
startup dialogue you have to set many UK laptops to have a USA keyboard.


It would be interesting to hear from users who've had experience of such 
keyboard problems and how they solved the problems or worked around them.


Dilwyn 


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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator

2013-01-23 Thread Tony Firshman

Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 23/Jan/13 16:33 | Jan23:

Dilwyn/

That may be because your java is old (or non-existent!).

Java 7 Update 10.

Maybe a reinstall is in order...


Check where your java.exe is and that it is ith the system PATH.
Mine is in C:\Windows\system32\

PATH
PATH=C:\Windows\system32;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\System32\Wbem;C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;c:\batch\;c:\psion\

Note the psion entry - this is the ancestor of the QL Psion programs!

You can add to PATH. Right click on (My) Computer - Properties - 
Advanced - Environmental Variables.


... but it certainly looks like you have a dodgy installation!


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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator DATE$

2013-01-23 Thread John Hall
I can confirm that for V1.01 of SMSQmulator the SMSQ/E time matches 
the XP Pro time.


Thanks!

John

- Original Message - 
From: Wolfgang Lenerz w...@scp-paulet-lenerz.com

To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator DATE$

During my lunch time, I've made a new version, which is on the 
website. Hopefully this will get rid of the date problem.


I haven't had time to test this version on windows, I don't have a 
windows machine here...


I'd appreciate comments on whether the new version does get rid of 
the date problem - it does here


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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator DATE$

2013-01-23 Thread Alex Wells
Hi Wolfgang,

Thanks for your response. 
My 2 minor hiccups are mentioned below.

Like other folks, I was delighted to plug in my existing qxl.win and get a 
functional SMSQ with my existing QPC2 boot. 

Regards,  Alex

On Wednesday 23 January 2013 14:17:30 Wolfgang wrote:
 Is the Menu Extension SCRAP - (your OS) clipboard exchange a generally 
 asked-for feature?

I do not know - I think it was for communication with M$ file-systems
(useful in Linux), and M$ software (that I do not use). 

 I'm really rusty on using the menu extension things, but next weekend, I 
 could have a look at that.
 
 I have used the same menu extensions as I have always used (I just use 
 my old QPC boot on my normal qxl.win file) - I wasn't even aware there 
 is a special QPC version (what's different?).

I get a msg during boot-up similar to: 
This version is only licenced for QPC. - referring to v768.
I am using menu_rext v765 for SMSQmulator.

If there is a unique flag for SMSQmulator, I would use it in my 
QPC2/SMSQmulator boot to switch menu_rext versions, and to turn off the 
SYNCSCRAP. ver$ gives HBA (for SMSQ), on SMSQmulator and QPC2, of course.

Could you change it to HBA-S perhaps?

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator

2013-01-23 Thread Dilwyn Jones



That may be because your java is old (or non-existent!).

Java 7 Update 10.

Maybe a reinstall is in order...


Check where your java.exe is and that it is ith the system PATH.
Mine is in C:\Windows\system32\


PATH

PATH=C:\Windows\system32;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\System32\Wbem;C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;c:\batch\;c:\psion\

Note the psion entry - this is the ancestor of the QL Psion programs!

You can add to PATH. Right click on (My) Computer - Properties -
Advanced - Environmental Variables.

... but it certainly looks like you have a dodgy installation!


OK, I uninstalled it all and reinstalled from that link using default 
settings suggested for my computer.


java.exe is in C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre7\bin
(32 bit version as Windows 7 defaults to 32-bit Internet Explorer since many 
web pages don't render correctly on the 64 bit version also available in 
Windows 7 - it says you can have both 32 and 64 bit versions installed on 
your computer at the same time if you use 32 bit and 64 bit browsers)


Here is the PATH from my PC (I split it into separate lines manually just to 
make it easier to read):


PATH=C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live;
C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live;
C:\Windows\system32;
C:\Windows;
C:\Windows\System32\Wbem;
C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;
C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Live\Shared;
C:\Program Files (x86)\sK1 Project\UniConvertor-1.1.5\;
C:\Program Files (x86)\sK1 Project\UniConvertor-1.1.5\DLLs;
C:\Program Files (x86)\Calibre2\;
C:\Program Files (x86);

Seems the above ain't enough for it to find Java.Exe - if I navigate 
manually in the command box to find jave.exe and then enter the command it 
works obviously.


(Sorry to bore everyone with non-QL stuff, obviously I need to resolve the 
above if using Java software like SMSQmulator, surprisingly that does work 
even with the various problems).



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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator DATE$

2013-01-23 Thread Dilwyn Jones

 Is the Menu Extension SCRAP - (your OS) clipboard exchange a generally 
 asked-for feature?
 
 I do not know - I think it was for communication with M$ file-systems
 (useful in Linux), and M$ software (that I do not use). 

I do use this facility to transfer text between Windows clipboard and Scrap 
when using QL programs like QD which know how to use Scrap. I also use Marcel's 
little SyncStuff SBASIC utility to copy between Scrap and hotkey stuffer buffer.

 I have used the same menu extensions as I have always used (I just use 
 my old QPC boot on my normal qxl.win file) - I wasn't even aware there 
 is a special QPC version (what's different?).

This is a quote from emails Jochen sent me (for news columns) a while back:

  Please note: The Menu Extension from version 7.65 onwards works only under 
SMSQ/E V2 (e.g. QPC2 or systems with high-colour screen drivers). If you run 
the old QL Pointer Environment, you should stick to your old Menu Extension. 
English only (a German version of MENU_rext is also on the disc, but no German 
documentation).
Plus this little note:
  A new version of Qmenu, version 8.02, is now available. The current versions 
of QMenu are only licensed for use on SMSQ/E systems. The previous version had 
a small bug, however, in that it tested for QPC, not SMSQ/E.

So it would appear that there was at least one version which explicitly tests 
for QPC rather than SMSQ/E.

 Could you change it to HBA-S perhaps?
A lot of programs (rightly or wrongly) test for SMSQ/E and Minerva explicitly 
with testing for VER$ = HBA and JSL1 respectively. This would risk throwing 
those programs, perhaps.

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator

2013-01-23 Thread Tony Firshman

Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 23/Jan/13 17:42 | Jan23:



That may be because your java is old (or non-existent!).

Java 7 Update 10.

Maybe a reinstall is in order...


Check where your java.exe is and that it is ith the system PATH.
Mine is in C:\Windows\system32\


PATH

PATH=C:\Windows\system32;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\System32\Wbem;C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;c:\batch\;c:\psion\


Note the psion entry - this is the ancestor of the QL Psion programs!

You can add to PATH. Right click on (My) Computer - Properties -
Advanced - Environmental Variables.

... but it certainly looks like you have a dodgy installation!


OK, I uninstalled it all and reinstalled from that link using default
settings suggested for my computer.

java.exe is in C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre7\bin
(32 bit version as Windows 7 defaults to 32-bit Internet Explorer since
many web pages don't render correctly on the 64 bit version also
available in Windows 7 - it says you can have both 32 and 64 bit
versions installed on your computer at the same time if you use 32 bit
and 64 bit browsers)

Here is the PATH from my PC (I split it into separate lines manually
just to make it easier to read):

PATH=C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live;
C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live;
C:\Windows\system32;
C:\Windows;
C:\Windows\System32\Wbem;
C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;
C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Live\Shared;
C:\Program Files (x86)\sK1 Project\UniConvertor-1.1.5\;
C:\Program Files (x86)\sK1 Project\UniConvertor-1.1.5\DLLs;
C:\Program Files (x86)\Calibre2\;
C:\Program Files (x86);

Seems the above ain't enough for it to find Java.Exe - if I navigate
manually in the command box to find jave.exe and then enter the command
it works obviously.

(Sorry to bore everyone with non-QL stuff, obviously I need to resolve
the above if using Java software like SMSQmulator, surprisingly that
does work even with the various problems).



I suspect appending ';C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre7\bin'
to your PATH will solve the issue.
I am not sure how it will cope with the spaces.  Maybe you need %20 to 
represent a space.


You can do this from the Environmental Variables window described 
above or:


PATH %path%;C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre7\bin from DOS (I think!).

Odd though the installation did not put it in a sensible place.

Tony

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator

2013-01-23 Thread Bryan Horstmann

On 23/01/2013 03:18, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:

Hi,

in your place I would :

download v. 7 u 11 from Oracle's website.

Go to your control panel, software and uninstall all old versions of 
java.


Install the newest one you just downloaded.

Wolfgang


Followed your advice, Wolfgang, and used Revo uninstaller to clear the 
decks, then installed ver 7; all went smoothly and I got the messge 
that it was installed.
That is enough for the present.  Go carefully one step at a time. To get 
the java version I seem to have to go into command prompt/comsole and 
enter java -version; it doesn't work in the window at the bottom of the 
page which comes up with Windiws key.


Thanks,

Bryan H
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator DATE$

2013-01-23 Thread Timothy Swenson

On 1/23/2013 10:35 AM, John Hall wrote:

I can confirm that for V1.01 of SMSQmulator the SMSQ/E time matches the
XP Pro time.


I tested it too and it works fine now.

Tim Swenson

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Re: [Ql-Users] Rawread

2013-01-23 Thread Timothy Swenson
QDC should run in DOSBOX.  I don't know if DOSBOX can address the USB 
floppy. It might just be a simple MOUNT command.


If you have Cygwin installed, then dd can be used for reading both 720k 
and 1.44M floppies.  I tested this recently and it worked.


Tim
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator DATE$

2013-01-23 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz

Hi Alew,



I do not know - I think it was for communication with M$ file-systems
(useful in Linux), and M$ software (that I do not use).



OK, I'll see what I can do.


If there is a unique flag for SMSQmulator, I would use it in my
QPC2/SMSQmulator boot to switch menu_rext versions, and to turn off the
SYNCSCRAP. ver$ gives HBA (for SMSQ), on SMSQmulator and QPC2, of course.

Could you change it to HBA-S perhaps?



You can check for SMSQmulator with the machine function. This will 
give 20 for SMSQmulator and other values for other machines.


Print machine (20 for SMSQmulator, 30 for QPC).

oOlfgang

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