ANN: Filtering out already delivered mail
Here's a little tool I made to get rid of unwanted mail already delivered to ~/Maildir/ on the system (most of my 2000+ mail users _aren't_ the smart ones when it comes to computers). The logic is quite simple: You notice you're hit by a worm or chain letter or anything. So you set up filtering, you kill copies already in ~/Maildir/new, you're done. I'm sure someone did this before, but couldn't find it somehow. Well, here's my $.02. It's a #!/bin/sh script. You can [1] scan all ~/Maildir/new, see the list of files with matches and choose whether delete them (the -n option) [2] scan all ~/Maildir/new, then see each message which matched, and decide whether delete it, leave it in /new or move it to /cur so you won't see it during next search. It's not meant to replace on-delivery mail filtering, but to supplement it. Use with care. It works for me. If it works for you, great. If not, you may hack it as you wish. If you loose your mails, don't blame me, you've been warned. ftp://158.195.33.220/pub/qmail/check-mail-src -- jozef :-)
Re: FW: FW: VIRUS PEOR QUE MELISSA II *** Importante***
On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 11:17:32PM +0100, Alex Shipp wrote: I think this therefore eloquently answers my previous question and confirms my original feeling that it is a bad idea to post virus warnings to this group. I don't agree. Posting Virus warning to a mailing list like this _can_ be a good idea, as long as they are *VALID*. The Cat Colonic hoax has been going on for quite some time and is to be found on all major Anti-Virus site, categorized as such! The content of the Cat Colonic mail makes it obvious it's a hoax. C'mon guys, crashing an aquarium ? Not possible unless it's an IP drive one G I'ts IMHO not smart to blindly post that kind of messages anywhere you can, *before* checking with the major AV providers to see if it't not listed as a hoax... Well, that's my 2 cent's worth. Steffan - Original Message - From: Kai MacTane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 May 2000 23:22 Subject: RE: FW: FW: VIRUS PEOR QUE MELISSA II *** Importante*** At 5/8/2000 02:52 PM -0700, Bryan Hundven wrote or quoted: Could we possibly get this in english? Please? Very loose translation: "There's a big, bad virus out there, which is even worse than Melissa. Be very afraid. It will eat your hard drive, crash your aquarium, and max out your credit cards, and that's just before breakfast." -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: FW: FW: VIRUS PEOR QUE MELISSA II *** Importante***
Posting Virus warning to a mailing list like this _can_ be a good idea, as long as they are *VALID*. Well, *I* know they are valid, because I work in the AV industry. (although of course I'm not infallible...but that's another story) However, if other people see me posting, they will also be encouraged to post, and the whole thing could quickly degenerate. ___ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit http://www.messagelabs.com/stats.asp
Off Topic: Posting virus warnings? (was Re: FW: FW: VIRUS PEOR QUE MELISSA II *** Importante***)
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 07:17:00AM +0100, Alex Shipp wrote: Posting Virus warning to a mailing list like this _can_ be a good idea, as long as they are *VALID*. Well, *I* know they are valid, because I work in the AV industry. (although of course I'm not infallible...but that's another story) However, if other people see me posting, they will also be encouraged to post, and the whole thing could quickly degenerate. G My previous remark 'solves' the degenerating problem... If only people would check a couple of AV sites before posting 'world wide', 'important' fake warnings the world would be a better place. I'm still trying to educate everybody i know to *first* check the AV sites before warning me about a fake virus i already know about. Doesn't the degenerating problem occur on AV dedicated lists? Or are the moderated? Bye, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Oh no ! A VBS file !!!
This is just another reason to stop using microsoft, I bet you can make linux use easier for your employee's, just use X-terminals (from NCD for instance) and make a nice KDE or the like desktop for your user's, corel office should be alright for professional use, paradox is almost finished... So no reason to use ms right ?
pop clients.
Hi, I am using qmail as my MTA and qmail-pop3 as my MUA. For client to send and receive e-mail from my qmail server by using Netscape or Microsoft Outlook as their pop client. They have to fill out the incoming mail server and outgoing mail server. Does the incoming and outgoing mail servers imply that I need to set up two different server for them so that they can send and receive e-mail, is that true ??... For example, .one qmail server is for outgoing purpose and the other one is for incoming purpose !!! As a result, I need two qmail server located at two different machines !!! Thank you so much, Mark Lo
Re: VIRUS WARNING!!!!!!!
At 12:07 04/05/00 +0300, R.Ilker Gokhan wrote: SUBJECT: ILOVEYOU YOU MUST DELETE IT BEFORE OPEN, ESPECIALLY IF YOUR OS IS WINDOWS ! http://www.hinterlands.org/iloveyou.html Martin A. Brooks The package said Windows NT 4 or better - I installed Linux.
Re: Oh no ! A VBS file !!!
The problem is that these viruses are based on user stupidity/unawareness. A script attached to a mail sent to a Linux system would do just as much damage to files the user has full access to. If a user doubleclicks an unknown attachment in Windows, you can bet he'd do the neccesary things to open the script in Linux too. So though I agree that moving to Linux is smart for a lot of people, Linux would be just as vulnerable if some spotty teen with a big brain wanted to do some damage to Linux users. Kent This is just another reason to stop using microsoft, I bet you can make linux use easier for your employee's, just use X-terminals (from NCD for instance) and make a nice KDE or the like desktop for your user's, corel office should be alright for professional use, paradox is almost finished... So no reason to use ms right ?
Re: Oh no ! A VBS file !!!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 9 May 2000, Kent Nilsen wrote: The problem is that these viruses are based on user stupidity/unawareness. A script attached to a mail sent to a Linux system would do just as much damage to files the user has full access to. If a user doubleclicks an unknown attachment in Windows, you can bet he'd do the neccesary things to open the script in Linux too. So though I agree that moving to Linux is smart for a lot of people, Linux would be just as vulnerable if some spotty teen with a big brain wanted to do some damage to Linux users. Plain and simple. You are wrong. Is this the proper forum to be discussing stupid OS tricks to play on brain dead users? Can't we get back to complaining about qmail or something a little more useful -- or at least entertaining? Scott -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBORfXqFpGPE+AF6qBAQF6XAQAq9FmSEUB+wrG187azaQxh4QKk5UJNR8V 8RVxtaPGvdLXL9pS9BcNznqIGeE9KY8g5w8M0oxnC0mACmadknacXNTSMyoUpook E9Aduw/kc9VkvFLm5tCwmqWc/pvznLXN+LcYqOlVFgYoRR4+5cdrGvPF8n8YM6xf NvO9rbedM1w= =ql/j -END PGP SIGNATURE-
qmail Digest 9 May 2000 10:00:00 -0000 Issue 996
qmail Digest 9 May 2000 10:00:00 - Issue 996 Topics (messages 41285 through 41399): Which version of Qmail to use? 41285 by: James 41287 by: James 41306 by: Tony Wade 41351 by: John Palkovic 41358 by: John Palkovic AVP and Scan4virus 41286 by: Andrés 41378 by: Jason Haar Re: scan4virus 41288 by: Jason Haar 41301 by: Einar Bordewich 41305 by: Will Harris Re: Anti-virus 41289 by: Jason Haar 41319 by: Steve Peace Re: Unable to Telnet 41290 by: Xionghui Chen ORBS prevention 41291 by: Kristina 41309 by: Johan Almqvist 41310 by: Paul Schinder Changing Passwords 41292 by: Isaiah Chua Re: My take on Phoenix 41293 by: John White 41307 by: kingram Help with virtual domains 41294 by: Isaiah Chua Re: how to stop subscription 41295 by: System Administrator 41303 by: Anton Pirnat Which version of Qmail to use? (fwd) 41296 by: James 41308 by: Vince Vielhaber deletion of large queue. 41297 by: Marc-Adrian Napoli Changing passwords and virtual domains 41298 by: Isaiah Chua None of my 41299 by: James 41311 by: Peter van Dijk Re: QMail Performance Question Miscellaneous Issues 41300 by: Neil Schemenauer 41324 by: Bryan White 41327 by: Steve Wolfe 41331 by: markd.bushwire.net 41332 by: Dave Sill Re: ETRN 41302 by: Anton Pirnat Re: Open Today. 41304 by: Peter van Dijk 41312 by: Len Budney 41313 by: Peter van Dijk 41320 by: Timothy L. Mayo 41322 by: Anthony DeBoer 41330 by: Len Budney restarting qmail quickly 41314 by: Tim Gollschewsky 41318 by: Will Harris Re: Future of qmail: will it care about viri/worms/etc? 41315 by: Bruno Wolff III 41316 by: Bruno Wolff III 41321 by: Anthony DeBoer 41325 by: Steve Wolfe 41326 by: Steve Wolfe 41329 by: John W. Lemons III Re: .qmail questions 41317 by: Dave Sill More than 120 concurrencyremote 41323 by: Ricardo D. Albano 41333 by: Dave Sill 41343 by: Ricardo D. Albano 41344 by: markd.bushwire.net 41348 by: Ricardo D. Albano 41349 by: markd.bushwire.net 41350 by: Peter van Dijk 41357 by: Irwan 41364 by: Ricardo D. Albano 41377 by: Irwan Hadi Re: URGENT ! Erased /var/qmail !!! 41328 by: Rogerio Brito Re: qmail-inject 41334 by: ino-waiting.gmx.net 41338 by: markd.bushwire.net 41339 by: markd.bushwire.net 41385 by: Bob Rogers 41399 by: ino-waiting.gmx.net VIRUS WARNING!!! 41335 by: R.Ilker Gokhan 41336 by: Bryan Hundven 41337 by: John W. Lemons III 41340 by: 41341 by: Soffen, Matthew 41342 by: Alex Shipp 41368 by: Andy Bradford 41396 by: Martin Brooks Lowercasing non-ASCII chars? 41345 by: Mikko Hänninen 41346 by: markd.bushwire.net 41347 by: Peter van Dijk 41352 by: Mikko Hänninen 41356 by: Patrick Bihan-Faou 41359 by: Peter van Dijk 41361 by: Patrick Bihan-Faou 41384 by: Bob Rogers Re: help qmail+vpopmail+ezmlm+qmailadmin+sqwebmail 41353 by: Kapil Nanda 41383 by: Kapil Nanda ezmlm question 41354 by: gary.genashor.com Re: field 41355 by: Thilo Bangert ezmlm question (revisited) 41360 by: GARY GENDEL Re: VIRUS PEOR QUE MELISSA II *** Importante*** 41362 by: Hector Tinoco 41367 by: Bryan Hundven 41369 by: Juan E Suris 41370 by: Vince Vielhaber 41371 by: Jon Saunders 41372 by: Kai MacTane 41373 by: Alex Shipp 41376 by: Len Budney 41390 by: Steffan Hoeke 41391 by: Alex Shipp origins of Bracketed Quad notation 41363 by: David L. Nicol 41365 by: Bruno Wolff III 41366 by: Timothy L. Mayo blocking mail from a certain address or domain 41374 by: Bill Parker 41375 by: Kai MacTane Qmail Setup 41379 by: Robert Blaylock 41380 by: Irwan Hadi badmailpattern 41381 by: Marc-Adrian Napoli 41382 by: Ronny Haryanto qmail-smtpd 41386 by: Eric Pan Retreiving spooled mail from my ISP ? 41387 by: blue Netscape and Microsoft Outlook 41388 by: Mark Lo Re: Filtering out already delivered mail 41389 by: Jozef Hitzinger Off Topic: Posting virus warnings? (was Re: FW: FW: VIRUS PEOR QUE MELISSA II *** Importante***) 41392 by: Steffan Hoeke qmail-smptd hung problem 41393 by: mack.ms1.hinet.net Oh no ! A VBS file !!! 41394 by: Jeroen ten Berge 41397 by: Kent Nilsen 41398 by: Scott D. Yelich pop clients. 41395 by: Mark Lo Administrivia: To unsubscribe from the
Re: Lowercasing non-ASCII chars?
Patrick Bihan-Faou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 08 May 2000: Exactly my point: if you use such email addresses you will make it difficult for a lot of people to send you email. I know there is a reply button on outlook and once your email is in my address book, I don't have to worry anymore... But then I may have other problems (outlook love bug)... Plus the fact that it is tolerated by some email agents does not make it right. You may also cause problems with some servers/clients that are not as tolerant... My position would be: if it is not allowed by the standard, don't do it. Hmmm, I guess you missed the paragraph in the original email, where I said that I know it's not a good idea to use such email addresses, and I'll only use it as a safety catch in case someone (ie. someone local) happens to use mikko.hänninen@myserver instead of mikko.hanninen@myserver by accident. It's an easy enough mistake to make (for a Finn anyway). I wouldn't actually use such addresses, as in advertise or put them in my emails... If you have further questions please send them to me private since this doesn't involve qmail anymore, thanks. Regards, Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy scifi, the Corrs / I am a signature virus. Please reproduce me in your signature block. :-)
Re: Lowercasing non-ASCII chars?
Bob Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 08 May 2000: To belabor what is perhaps obvious by now, RFC822 forbids 8-bit characters in the local-part of an address (or anywhere else, for that matter). The key lines are as follows: atom= 1*any CHAR except specials, SPACE and CTLs CHAR= any ASCII character; ( 0-177, 0.-127.) I haven't actually seen this particular violation in use; has anybody else? I'm not sure what you refer to with "this particular violation"; since I've seen subject headers that contained 8-bit characters. I've even sent them myself in the past (a long time ago), elm allowed one to send both From and Subject headers with 8bit character content, without MIME-encoding. Since my name contains an 8bit character I'm well familiar with the issue. It's kind of annoying, since my options are either to spell it wrong (Hanninen) or to use the real form which gets MIME-encoded and then doesn't display properly with every email client. Well, such is life. If you mean just the fact that someone puts an 8bit character in the actual recipient *email address*, no I've not seen that. Like I said elsewhere, I can conceive it as an easy mistake to make though, if someone is hand-typing my address. I'm not sure how email clients and servers would treat such a message, but if it gets as far as my server I think it would be nice if it gets delivered to me. :-) Regards, Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy scifi, the Corrs / God is REAL, unless explicitly declared INTEGER.
Re: ANN: Filtering out already delivered mail
Jozef Hitzinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a little tool I made to get rid of unwanted mail already delivered to ~/Maildir/...It's not meant to replace on-delivery mail filtering, but to supplement it. You might also want to look at maildircmd, my addition to the serialmail package. http://www.nb.net/~lbudney/linux/software/maildircmd.html It generally assumes that the maildir is a ``spool'', and that every message in it will be delivered somewhere (Delivering back to the spool is a recipe for infinite loops, of course). Since most MUAs use maildir as a spool, not a folder, you can use maildircmd compatibly with your existing setup. As a fringe benefit, it will automatically generate bounces if you want. Len. -- Frugal Tip #7: Manage a multifamily housing complex in the back seat of your SUV.
RE: Netscape and Microsoft Outlook
Title: RE: Netscape and Microsoft Outlook Should I use pop-3 server comes with qmail Yes. and also Maildir.??? or others ??? You can use Maildir... Best regard, Ilker G.
Relaying with FreeInternet?
What if I have a client that will be using Free-i (http://www.freei.com/) or any of the current free Internet connections for his Internet connection to get and send mail? How do I allow relaying from that server? Is this possible without an open relay? james
Re: Netscape and Microsoft Outlook
Hi, Thank you for your reply. Then how do i named them so my user can fill in the incoming mail server and outgoing mail server field in Netscape or MS. For example, My ISP gives the incoming mail server as pop.netvigator.com and outgoing mail server as mail.netvigator.com. is that mean I need two qmail server ??? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mark, I also have Netscape and Outlook -Clients with qmail-pop3d and Maildir (this means pop and smtp server running on qmail- machine). No problems so far. You know Dave Sill's Life With Qmail (http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html)? Greetings Thomas On 9 May 2000, at 13:22, Mark Lo wrote: Hi, I would like to know what kind of MUAs do i need , if all of my client is using Netscape or Microsoft Outlook to retrieve e-mail. Should I use pop-3 server comes with qmail and also Maildir.??? or others ??? Thank You Mark Lo
Manual for Qmail.
Hi, I have installed qmail successfully. But when i use the command "man qmail", it just show up a little details about qmail. Where can i download the official and fully explained function about man page. Thank You Mark Lo
Manual for Qmail.
Hi, I have installed qmail successfully. But when i use the command "man qmail", it just show up a little details about qmail. Where can i download the official and fully explained function about man page. Oh...I have read a mail regarding the man page of qmail, that messages stated that "the official man page has to be download individually. If yes, please indicate the location of the man page. Thank You Mark Lo
Re: Netscape and Microsoft Outlook
Hi, Oh...you mean, if my smtp and pop server is at one machine, so i can give my user's outgoing mail server and incoming mail server the same name, is that right?? Thank You Mark Jerry Walsh wrote: You don't need to name them , they don't need to have seperate ip's, they don't need to be on seperate machines. In a nutshell: you can run a pop3 and smtp service on the same machine without any problems at all. The only reason your ISP uses two different addresses is for load balancing. (and the round robin dns ;) Jerry. At 07:56 PM 5/9/00 +0800, you wrote: Hi, Thank you for your reply. Then how do i named them so my user can fill in the incoming mail server and outgoing mail server field in Netscape or MS. For example, My ISP gives the incoming mail server as pop.netvigator.com and outgoing mail server as mail.netvigator.com. is that mean I need two qmail server ??? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mark, I also have Netscape and Outlook -Clients with qmail-pop3d and Maildir (this means pop and smtp server running on qmail- machine). No problems so far. You know Dave Sill's Life With Qmail (http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html)? Greetings Thomas On 9 May 2000, at 13:22, Mark Lo wrote: Hi, I would like to know what kind of MUAs do i need , if all of my client is using Netscape or Microsoft Outlook to retrieve e-mail. Should I use pop-3 server comes with qmail and also Maildir.??? or others ??? Thank You Mark Lo -- Jerry Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aardvark IPL Fax +353 21 896040 Morris house Tel +353 21 896060 Douglas Cork Ireland.http://www.aardvark.ie/ The package said Windows NT 4 or better - I installed UNIX
Re: qmail-smptd hung problem
It's safe to kill them. Certainly anything that is older than 24 hours is likely to be safe to kill. It is possible that your kill comes after the 250 OK is sent from the other end, but before qmail-smtpd communicates that to qmail-send, but the probability is lower as you leave the old qmail-smtpd running longer. Regards. On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 03:27:22PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, I'm running qmail-1.03 w/vpopmail on a Solaris2.6 box and am encountering the hung qmail-smptd's problem discussed here in Feb. As no better way to solve it at this moment, I wonder if I could just kill the hung qmail-smptd's. Is it safe to do so ? Also, I wonder if anyone out there did encounter this problem as an end user. I would like to know what (error message, or so) it said when one's smtp connection got hung. Will this become something like (from the sender's view) it seems the mail got sent but it actually never be delivered due to the problem ? Thanks in advance! --- Wang-hua Li
qmail cdb problem
In one of the steps on "Life With Qmail" it suggests this: "Allow the local host to inject mail via SMTP: echo '127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""' /etc/tcp.smtp /usr/local/sbin/qmail cdb" The first line (starting with echo) worked.. but the second line (starting with /usr) gave me an error when I entered it. Does this need to be one long line instead of two? james
Re: Lowercasing non-ASCII chars?
On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 11:42:37PM -0400, Bob Rogers wrote: [snip RFC822 disallows 8-bit stuff] This is not relevant. RFC822 talks only about headers+body. The issue in this discussion is the SMTP (thus RFC821) addressing. Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
Re: origins of Bracketed Quad notation
On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 05:51:22PM -0400, Timothy L. Mayo wrote: On Mon, 8 May 2000, David L. Nicol wrote: RFC 821 page 29 (Section 4.1.2 COMMAND SYNTAX) mailbox ::= local-part "@" domain domain ::= element | element "." domain element ::= name | "#" number | "[" dotnum "]" dotnum ::= snum "." snum "." snum "." snum snum ::= one, two, or three digits representing a decimal integer value in the range 0 through 255 The item you missed was the third form of the element. Note that this definition is incorrect, in that it allows stuff like [10.10.10.1].vuurwerk.nl I think this was superseded in a later RFC. Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
Denying mail for a specific user
Hi I am receiving alot of spam to an account which has since been disabled on my machine, how do i reject mail sent to this address without causing it to bounce to postmaster? TIA, Jerry.
Re: qmail cdb problem
James [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In one of the steps on "Life With Qmail" it suggests this: "Allow the local host to inject mail via SMTP: echo '127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""' /etc/tcp.smtp /usr/local/sbin/qmail cdb" The first line (starting with echo) worked.. but the second line (starting with /usr) gave me an error when I entered it. Does this need to be one long line instead of two? You can also edit /etc/tcp.smtp with any text editor. It should have one line looking like this: 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="" Then you can compile it using this command: tcprules /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb /etc/tcp.smtp.tmp /etc/tcp.smtp I can't look at ``Life With Qmail'' at the moment, there are some network problems between qmail.org and here. -- Manfred
Feature request for sqWebMail
Two things I miss: 1. In Preferences: "Masquerade as". I call myself [EMAIL PROTECTED], but sqWebMail tells the world that I'm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Causing problems with mailing lists. 2. Sort by incoming order. A lot of people have their clock set wrong :-(
Re: Manual for Qmail.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed qmail successfully. But when i use the command "man qmail", it just show up a little details about qmail. Where can i download the official and fully explained function about man page. Oh...I have read a mail regarding the man page of qmail, that messages stated that "the official man page has to be download individually. If yes, please indicate the location of the man page. Read the "man qmail" page. All those names with a number in parentheses are man pages, e.g: man dot-qmail man qmail-start etc. -Dave
Re: Relaying with FreeInternet?
On Tue, 9 May 2000, James wrote: What if I have a client that will be using Free-i (http://www.freei.com/) or any of the current free Internet connections for his Internet connection to get and send mail? How do I allow relaying from that server? Is this possible without an open relay? Look at smtp-poplock. There's a pointer at www.qmail.org. Vince. -- == Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSHemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pop4.net 128K ISDN from $22.00/mo - 56K Dialup from $16.00/mo at Pop4 Networking Online Campground Directoryhttp://www.camping-usa.com Online Giftshop Superstorehttp://www.cloudninegifts.com ==
Re: qmail cdb problem
James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In one of the steps on "Life With Qmail" it suggests this: "Allow the local host to inject mail via SMTP: echo '127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""' /etc/tcp.smtp /usr/local/sbin/qmail cdb" The first line (starting with echo) worked.. but the second line (starting with /usr) gave me an error when I entered it. Does this need to be one long line instead of two? No. What error did you get? -Dave
qmail-smtpd problem
I am running qmail with redhat 6.1. When I try to send a message to some outside domain then it gives me the error "553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)" Folowing is the session : bash$ telnet 216.6.15.209 25 Trying 216.6.15.209... Connected to 216.6.15.209. Escape character is '^]'. 220 whlinux021.webhosting.com ESMTP mail from:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 ok rcpt to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) I have also make entry for baniya.com in rcpthosts! Please advise? -- Kapil Sharma Acube-software [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.acubesoftware.com
need qmail setup help
prob1. I can send mail, but I can't receive mail. /var/log/maillog says: delivery 82: deferral: Temporary_error_on_maildir_delivery._(#4.3.0)/ status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 I created ~username/Maildir/ I created a link from /var/spool/mail/jstile to ~jstile/Maildir/ (I assumed Maildir is a directory based on it's name, but it wasn't clear in the directions) I'm getting message notification: "You have mail in /var/spool/mail/jstile" But when I type mail, i see the message " /var/spool/mail/jstile: Is a directory" There are so many man pages, I'm not sure where to go back to. I've been through this 8 times, step by step. I did it all. Is there supposed to be some subdir in ~jstile/Maildir? Propb2. echo $MAIL= /var/spool/mail/jstile I followed the direction to switch to ~jstile/Maildir. Did I make the switch by making a link from /var/spool/mail/jstile to ~jstile/Maildir? Help...
Manage QMail Queue manually
Hi to all, I work at University and I have this problem: I've configured QMail Mail Server. My purpose is send mail not immediately, but I would that the messages stay in the queue for a few time. I would that when a ISDN router comes up, the "E-Mail start". In actual scenario, every time that I send a message the router comes up!!! I'm looking for an option like "-q15m" of sendmail. Best Regards, P.S. Sorry, but my English is not very well. Carlo Manuali Centro d'Ateneo per i Servizi Informatici (CASI) University Of Perugia ITALY
Re: Manage QMail Queue manually
Carlo Manuali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My purpose is send mail not immediately, but I would that the messages stay in the queue for a few time. I would that when a ISDN router comes up, the "E-Mail start". In actual scenario, every time that I send a message the router comes up!!! Déjà vu... Install serialmail (ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/www/serialmail.html). Deliver outgoing mail to a Maildir (details provided upon request). Run maildir2smtp (from serialmail) on the spool Maildir when the ISDN link goes up. -Dave
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Re: fw: qmail-inject
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 08:53:33 +0200 Bob Rogers (Mon 08.0500-23:47): Not here, but that may not mean much. My guess is that mutt is expecting the named program to be sendmail-compatible and is passing it extra options, but qmail-inject is not taking sendmail options. Try set sendmail="/var/qmail/bin/sendmail" ok, thorough procedure requires me to try. but i checked with the original sendmail and qmail's wrapper for qmail-inject of the same name: neither takes "-B". Hmm. On my Red Hat 6.0 system, "man sendmail" (for the sendmail 8.9.3 version originally installed) explains "-B" as follows: -Btype Set the body type to type. Current legal values [are] 7BIT or 8BITMIME. And my local /var/qmail/bin/sendmail (qmail 1.03) does ignore -B: rgr /var/qmail/bin/sendmail -t to: rogers subject: test foo bar rgr /var/qmail/bin/sendmail -t -Bfoo to: rogers subject: test more testing. rgr I got both of these test messages. So, as long as you use /var/qmail/bin/sendmail, this looks like an unrelated mutt configuration problem, eh? Maybe *you* have to specify the "-t" explictly . . . ? But I've never used mutt, so that's just a guess. -- Bob Rogers
Re: Manage QMail Queue manually
At 10.54 09/05/2000 -0400, Dave Sill wrote: Carlo Manuali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My purpose is send mail not immediately, but I would that the messages stay in the queue for a few time. I would that when a ISDN router comes up, the "E-Mail start". In actual scenario, every time that I send a message the router comes up!!! Déjà vu... Install serialmail (ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/www/serialmail.html). Deliver outgoing mail to a Maildir (details provided upon request). Run maildir2smtp (from serialmail) on the spool Maildir when the ISDN link goes up. -Dave Ok, but my problem is on the serialmail... do you know other ways? I read something about -a switch... Regards, --Carlo Carlo Manuali Centro d'Ateneo per i Servizi Informatici (CASI) University of Perugia ITALY
Re: Lowercasing non-ASCII chars?
From: Peter van Dijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 15:08:03 +0200 On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 11:42:37PM -0400, Bob Rogers wrote: [snip RFC822 disallows 8-bit stuff] This is not relevant. RFC822 talks only about headers+body. The issue in this discussion is the SMTP (thus RFC821) addressing. But SMTP address syntax is a subset of mail header address syntax, by design. So if 822 doesn't allow something, 821 certainly won't, am I right? I quoted 822 because I am more familiar with it. -- Bob Rogers
Re: Lowercasing non-ASCII chars?
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 11:16:05AM -0400, Bob Rogers wrote: From: Peter van Dijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 15:08:03 +0200 On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 11:42:37PM -0400, Bob Rogers wrote: [snip RFC822 disallows 8-bit stuff] This is not relevant. RFC822 talks only about headers+body. The issue in this discussion is the SMTP (thus RFC821) addressing. But SMTP address syntax is a subset of mail header address syntax, by design. So if 822 doesn't allow something, 821 certainly won't, am I right? I quoted 822 because I am more familiar with it. You do have a point there. Oh, please don't Cc me - I'm on the list. Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
Re: qmail cdb problem
Did you symlink qmail to /usr/local/sbin? James wrote: In one of the steps on "Life With Qmail" it suggests this: "Allow the local host to inject mail via SMTP: echo '127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""' /etc/tcp.smtp /usr/local/sbin/qmail cdb" The first line (starting with echo) worked.. but the second line (starting with /usr) gave me an error when I entered it. Does this need to be one long line instead of two? james
Re: Manage QMail Queue manually
Carlo Manuali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, but my problem is on the serialmail... Can you be more specific? The method I proposed *does* work if properly configured. -Dave
Re: How do i unsubscribe
First, ask your Internet Provider to mail you an Unsubscribing Kit. Then follow these directions. The kit will most likely be the standard no-fault type. Depending on requirements, System A and/or System B can be used. When operating System A, depress lever and a plastic dalkron unsubscriber will be dispensed through the slot immediately underneath. When you have fastened the adhesive lip, attach connection marked by the large "X" outlet hose. Twist the silver- coloured ring one inch below the connection point until you feel it lock. The kit is now ready for use. The Cin-Eliminator is activated by the small switch on the lip. When securing, twist the ring back to its initial condition, so that the two orange lines meet. Disconnect. Place the dalkron unsubscriber in the vacuum receptacle to the rear. Activate by pressing the blue button. The controls for System B are located on the opposite side. The red release switch places the Cin-Eliminator into position; it can be adjusted manually up or down by pressing the blue manual release button. The opening is self- adjusting. To secure after use, press the green button, which simultaneously activates the evaporator and returns the Cin-Eliminator to its storage position. You may log off if the green exit light is on over the evaporator . If the red light is illuminated, one of the Cin-Eliminator requirements has not been properly implemented. Press the "List Guy" call button on the right of the evaporator . He will secure all facilities from his control panel. To use the Auto-Unsub, first undress and place all your clothes in the clothes rack. Put on the velcro slippers located in the cabinet immediately below. Enter the shower, taking the entire kit with you. On the control panel to your upper right upon entering you will see a "Shower seal" button. Press to activate. A green light will then be illuminated immediately below. On the intensity knob, select the desired setting. Now depress the Auto-Unsub activation lever. Bathe normally. The Auto-Unsub will automatically go off after three minutes unless you activate the "Manual off" override switch by flipping it up. When you are ready to leave, press the blue "Shower seal" release button. The door will open and you may leave. Please remove the velcro slippers and place them in their container. If you prefer the ultrasonic log-off mode, press the indicated blue button. When the twin panels open, pull forward by rings A B. The knob to the left, just below the blue light, has three settings, low, medium or high. For normal use, the medium setting is suggested. After these settings have been made, you can activate the device by switching to the "ON" position the clearly marked red switch. If during the unsubscribing operation, you wish to change the settings, place the "manual off" override switch in the "OFF" position. You may now make the change and repeat the cycle. When the green exit light goes on, you may log off and have lunch. Please close the door behind you. -Dave, not the author
Re: need qmail setup help
At 5/9/2000 07:41 AM -0700, John Stile wrote or quoted: delivery 82: deferral: Temporary_error_on_maildir_delivery._(#4.3.0)/ status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 I created ~username/Maildir/ I created a link from /var/spool/mail/jstile to ~jstile/Maildir/ (I assumed Maildir is a directory based on it's name, but it wasn't clear in the directions) Is there supposed to be some subdir in ~jstile/Maildir? Yes. All Maildirs should have directories in them named tmp, new, and cur. All four of these directories should be mode 700 and owned by the user whose mail is being delivered there. The easy way to create a Maildir for one user is to log in as that user, then run: maildirmake ~/Maildir You may need to give the full path to maildirmake; in that case, the path will normally be /var/qmail/bin/maildirmake. To make all new users have properly setup Maildirs in their home directories when their accounts are created, create a Maildir in your skeleton new-user directory (usually /etc/skel), like so: /var/qmail/bin/maildirmake /etc/skel/Maildir If you have a lot of preexisting user accounts that need Maildirs created for them, I believe there are some scripts on www.qmail.org that will do it. - Kai MacTane System Administrator Online Partners.com, Inc. - From the Jargon File: (v4.0.0, 25 Jul 1996) finger trouble /n./ Mistyping, typos, or generalized keyboard incompetence (this is surprisingly common among hackers, given the amount of time they spend at keyboards). "I keep putting colons at the end of statements instead of semicolons", "Finger trouble again, eh?".
Re: need qmail setup help
John Stile [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: delivery 82: deferral: Temporary_error_on_maildir_delivery._(#4.3.0)/ status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 I created ~username/Maildir/ I created a link from /var/spool/mail/jstile to ~jstile/Maildir/ (I assumed Maildir is a directory based on it's name, but it wasn't clear in the directions) A Maildir is a Maildir, not just an empty directory. It should be created using maildirmake. But when I type mail, i see the message " /var/spool/mail/jstile: Is a directory" Your MUA apparently only handles mbox mailboxes. Try "qail" instead. echo $MAIL= /var/spool/mail/jstile I followed the direction to switch to ~jstile/Maildir. Did I make the switch by making a link from /var/spool/mail/jstile to ~jstile/Maildir? I can't figure out what you're asking or what you did. -Dave
RE: QMail Performance Question Miscellaneous Issues
I have a question about qmail regarding its mail handling capacity. How many remote emails can qmail send simulataneously, assuming it is run on a Dual-CPU PIII 500Mhz with 512Mb RAM and a SCSI hard disk? The internet bandwidth is 10 Mbps. On a dual celeron 466 with 512Mb ram. and 3 10k scsi drives (one for /var/qmail/queue, one for /var/log, one for /usr/home) concurrency remote at 500 concurrency local at 50 FreeBSD 3.4-S localhost dnscache It will push 12 Million on a good day. (4% local delivery). This is qmail 1.03 + big-todo + big-concurrency + qmailqueue What is the general number of emails that a machine with the above specifications can send per second/hour/day? How do I fine-tune it to send off millions? I only know of changing the "concurrencyremote" figure in /var/qmail/control/concurrencyremote. I set it to 100 for testing. What should be a good figure assuming that I will do free email hosting on the server for hundreds of thousands of users? whoa there...hundreds of thousands of users? You are going to need much better disk performance than one scsi disk will give you. More info below I have also noticed that some free email services like Yahoo also uses QMail (if I'm not mistaken). They have millions of users, so I assume they host the email service on multiple machines. I think that's a safe bet. How is it possible to do load-balancing for emails on multiple machines? 'cause everyone will have an email address like [EMAIL PROTECTED], but how does Yahoo redirect portions of users to different machines for mail receival/sending? Well, I don't work at yahoo, but off the top of my head something like this comes to mind: nfs1.dom.com has a large, fast raid array attached to it. smtp1.dom.com smtp2.dom.com smtp3.dom.com ... smtpn.dom.com are all servers running qmail/qmail-smtpd. There are set up to do local delivery to maildirs in /usr/home/popuser (For more information on running multiple pop boxes under one UID, follow some links on the qmail home page (like vpopmail and pop toaster). /usr/home/popuser is mounted via nfs from the machine nfs1.dom.com via a separate 100mbit ethernet segment. pop1.dom.com pop2.dom.com pop3.dom.com ... popn.dom.com are all servers running qmail-pop3d and friends... There serve the pop boxes from /usr/home/popuser, which they mount from nfs1.dom.com smtp.dom.com points to smtp1, smtp2, smtp3 ... pop.dom.com points to pop1, pop2, pop3 ... That setup should be able to scale pretty well, as long as the NFS box is up to the challenge... (quad zeon connected to 3 firewire raid 5 arrays and running software raid 0 over them? :D) This sound reasonably to the rest of you? Matthew B. Henniges CoPresident Axl.net Communications http://www.axl.net (203) 552-1714
chdir problem
hi all i've a problem ;-) i have some mails in my queue that qmail want deliver, it always gives me the following errormessage: delivery 127: deferral: Unable_to_chdir_to_maildir._(#4.2.1)/ what is going wrong ? .. i have restarted qmail and now its working normal again and is delivering mails to this user, but the mails in the queue are still there with the same error message. any solutions for that ? pleease :( greets Martin
Re: Denying mail for a specific user
Jerry Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am receiving alot of spam to an account which has since been disabled on my machine, how do i reject mail sent to this address without causing it to bounce to postmaster? You can't reject it during the SMTP dialogue, so your best bet is to throw it in the bitbucket. E.g., echo "#" ~user/.qmail -Dave
How do you do it?
I have a simple, non-qmail question: How do you do it? You write and maintain a massive quantity of qmail documentation. You seem to post more responses to more questions on the list than is humanly possible! Many of the questions are rather inane, and yet the closest thing I've seen to an explosion is your recent humorous 'unsubscribe' post... Despite the relatively frequent abrasive responses. I'm assuming you have a real life... Ben -- Now, it's quite simple to defend yourself against a man armed with a banana. First of all you force him to drop the banana; then, second, you eat the banana, thus disarming him. You have now rendered him helpless. - Monty Python
Re: Oh no ! A VBS file !!!
Speaking of (un)awareness: This script is inaccurately called a virus. On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 11:19:56AM +0200, Kent Nilsen wrote: The problem is that these viruses are based on user stupidity/unawareness. A script attached to a mail sent to a Linux system would do just as much damage to files the user has full access to. If a user doubleclicks an unknown attachment in Windows, you can bet he'd do the neccesary things to open the script in Linux too. So though I agree that moving to Linux is smart for a lot of people, Linux would be just as vulnerable if some spotty teen with a big brain wanted to do some damage to Linux users. Kent This is just another reason to stop using microsoft, I bet you can make linux use easier for your employee's, just use X-terminals (from NCD for instance) and make a nice KDE or the like desktop for your user's, corel office should be alright for professional use, paradox is almost finished... So no reason to use ms right ? -- The word "spine" is, of course, an anagram of "penis". This is true in almost fifty percent of the languages of the Galaxy, and many people have attempted to explain why. Usually these explanations get bogged down in silly puns about "standing erect". -- Douglas Adams, "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" Graphic Rezidew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do you do it?
Ben Beuchler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a simple, non-qmail question: How do you do it? You write and maintain a massive quantity of qmail documentation. You seem to post more responses to more questions on the list than is humanly possible! Many of the questions are rather inane, and yet the closest thing I've seen to an explosion is your recent humorous 'unsubscribe' post... Despite the relatively frequent abrasive responses. I'm assuming you have a real life... Ssh. "Dave Sill" is actually an experimental AI. :) Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
Re: fw: qmail-inject
Bob Rogers (Tue 09.0500-11:04):
Hmm. On my Red Hat 6.0 system, "man sendmail" (for the sendmail 8.9.3
version originally installed) explains "-B" as follows:
-Btype Set the body type to type. Current legal values [are]
7BIT or 8BITMIME.
mine too. my mistake.
And my local /var/qmail/bin/sendmail (qmail 1.03) does ignore -B:
yes. didn't check that upto now. the only thing i did find out was, that
the error appeared with messages containing characters from the charmap
{127..255}. happens in germany ("umlauts"). mutt must have tried to set
"-B" automatically to get 8-bit chars through. man, you wouldn't believe
how often i tried and experimented until i found out. this hasn't happened
any more. had i not overlooked that darned -B8BITMIME flag...
--
clemens([EMAIL PROTECTED], pgp key available)
Re: How do you do it?
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 01:22:46PM -0400, Dave Sill wrote: I have a full "real life", which is why I don't always respond quickly to list questions. Does it perchance involve empty beer bottles : In fact Dave, couldn't be a nicer guy. He once swapped something of value with me for a couple of beer bottles. The nice thing? Dave wanted them emptied before I sent them. How could I resist : Regards.
qmail-smtp problem
I am running qmail with redhat 6.1. When I try to send a message to some outside domain then it gives me the error "553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)" Folowing is the session : bash$ telnet 216.6.15.209 25 Trying 216.6.15.209... Connected to 216.6.15.209. Escape character is '^]'. 220 whlinux021.webhosting.com ESMTP mail from:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 ok rcpt to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) I have also make entry for baniya.com in rcpthosts! Please advise? -- Kapil Sharma Acube-software [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.acubesoftware.com
Re: How do you do it?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 01:22:46PM -0400, Dave Sill wrote: I have a full "real life", which is why I don't always respond quickly to list questions. Does it perchance involve empty beer bottles : See: http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/beer.html Or, for the bigger picture of my life: http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/dave.html In fact Dave, couldn't be a nicer guy. Sure I could. :-) But I'm as nice as I want to be. He once swapped something of value with me for a couple of beer bottles. The nice thing? Dave wanted them emptied before I sent them. How could I resist : Well, now, they didn't *have* to be empty... -Dave
Re: Lowercasing non-ASCII chars?
Mikko Hänninen writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 08 May 2000: Correct. Uppercase LETTERS (my emphasis :). The typical preciseness of these manpages suggests to me that if it says letters, then that's all it means, no more, no less...and a quick squizz at the source confirms this. Ahh, hmm. But ä, ö and å *are* letters in the Finnish alphabet, so by that logic it should convert them? My point is that the man page is *not* precise in this instance (it doesn't specify only English letters), although it is possible that elsewhere it's stated that qmail does not have locale support. But the documentation is written in English. "Letters" means 26 things when said in English, but when the same word is said in Finnish (Norwegian, Turkish, Russian, etc) it means more than 26 things. -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | "Ask not what your country 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | do for you..." -Perry M.
Re: How do you do it?
On Tue, 9 May 2000, Len Budney wrote: At FORE systems we had a phone support person who would shout those things, so loud that everybody in building one could hear it. He was astoundingly imaginative and colorful, and many of his remarks are not printable. Eventually, somebody spied on his work, and noticed that he was deftly using the mute button on his phone. He could interject these incredible outbursts, while speaking levelly and courteously at all times to the customer. Amazing. Len. That would work great, until your finger slipped off the mute button on accident, or it failed to work one time :) ___ _ __ _ __ /___ ___ /__ John Gonzalez/Net.Tech __ __ \ __ \ __/_ __ `__ \/ __ /_ ___/ MDC Computers/netMDC! _ / / / `__/ /_ / / / / / / /_/ / / /__ (505)437-7600/fax-437-3052 /_/ /_/\___/\__/ /_/ /_/ /_/\__,_/ \___/ http://www.netmdc.com [-[system info]---] 12:15pm up 105 days, 19:12, 6 users, load average: 0.05, 0.28, 0.32
Re: Lowercasing non-ASCII chars?
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 01:51:12PM -0400, Russell Nelson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: mikko.hänninen@myserver and MIKKO.HÄNNINEN@myserver, or do I need to Oh, and you'd need a *lot* more than two qmail files if it didn't do this. What if someone sent to extensions like Mikko, mIkko, miKko, etc? No, he only needs two: .qmail-mikko:hänninen and .qmail-mikko:hÄnninen That is what Mark is saying. Note the "if it didn't do this" part :) Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
Re: How do you do it?
At FORE systems we had a phone support person who would shout those things, so loud that everybody in building one could hear it. He was astoundingly imaginative and colorful, and many of his remarks are not printable. Eventually, somebody spied on his work, and noticed that he was deftly using the mute button on his phone. He could interject these incredible outbursts, while speaking levelly and courteously at all times to the customer. Amazing. Len. That would work great, until your finger slipped off the mute button on accident, or it failed to work one time :) Back in the day when I did tech support, that sort of thing wasn't uncommon at all. We were all pretty good at doing things like carrying on conversations with other techs, playing hackysack, etc., while helping customers, unbeknownst to them. Every once in a while, we'd get a "noisy" mute button that would click, and if they asked what it was, we'd just tell them in was phone noise. As to forgetting the mute button was on, I once found out the hard way that the phone's mute button *didn't work*, when I muttered "moron", and the customer heard me... : ) I wish I could go on about the things that people said to me, the things I said to people, and the things I heard other techs say - but it would be a novel. Technical support is definitely a unique learning experience steve
Re: How do you do it?
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 12:30:01PM -0600, Steve Wolfe wrote: [snip] Back in the day when I did tech support, that sort of thing wasn't uncommon at all. We were all pretty good at doing things like carrying on conversations with other techs, playing hackysack, etc., while helping customers, unbeknownst to them. Every once in a while, we'd get a "noisy" mute button that would click, and if they asked what it was, we'd just tell them in was phone noise. Our helpdeskers when they're just back from MacDonalds picking up food: 'let me look that up for you' *switch to mute* *scrunch scrunch gobble scrunch scrunch slurp* *fix stuff* *switch mute off* 'sir? hi. blah blah' Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
Re: ezmlm question (revisited)
GARY GENDEL writes: I just noticed that the qmail list server puts itself as a carbon-copy. Is this preferred over a reply-to? In any event, how do I set this up? Actually, ezmlm doesn't do anything to the headers. The mail goes out in the same form it came in -- as the user wrote it. Many email clients lack a "Reply to Recipient" command, so when the user does a "Reply To All", it goes back to the author of the email, with a cc: to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | "Ask not what your country 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | do for you..." -Perry M.
I get this message when I telnet in
OK, time to look stupid. I get the following message when I telnet in grep: /var/qmail/defaultdelivery/rc: No such file or directory I thought I followed Dave Sill's instructions carefully in Life with Qmail and the Install instructions in the source package. Obviously, I missed something. I'm using Dave's script to start/stop/restart Qmail I'm running RH 6.1 Any suggestions other than quit now while you're still ahead. Thanks for any help -- Eric Fletcher
Re: How do you do it?
On Tue, 9 May 2000, Steve Wolfe wrote: Back in the day when I did tech support, that sort of thing wasn't uncommon at all. We were all pretty good at doing things like carrying on conversations with other techs, playing hackysack, etc., while helping customers, unbeknownst to them. Every once in a while, we'd get a "noisy" mute button that would click, and if they asked what it was, we'd just tell them in was phone noise. Well, i dont have a mute button on my phone here, but i just turn my speakers down and continue to frag people away in tribes... :) As to forgetting the mute button was on, I once found out the hard way that the phone's mute button *didn't work*, when I muttered "moron", and the customer heard me... : ) I've yelled "at" customers after i've hung up, but there have been times when i didnt hang up, and you never know if the customer heard you or not. You thought you hit the hang up button, but didnt, you know what i mean? :) I wish I could go on about the things that people said to me, the things I said to people, and the things I heard other techs say - but it would be a novel. Technical support is definitely a unique learning experience steve Oh god. I do tech support for the internet and computer store here, trust me, i have some doozies of my own :) ___ _ __ _ __ /___ ___ /__ John Gonzalez/Net.Tech __ __ \ __ \ __/_ __ `__ \/ __ /_ ___/ MDC Computers/netMDC! _ / / / `__/ /_ / / / / / / /_/ / / /__ (505)437-7600/fax-437-3052 /_/ /_/\___/\__/ /_/ /_/ /_/\__,_/ \___/ http://www.netmdc.com [-[system info]---] 12:55pm up 105 days, 19:52, 6 users, load average: 0.37, 0.31, 0.45
help with smtp
Hi, I am trying to use the qmail-smtpd program. Every time I try to specify the recipient, I get the following message: 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) I did a man on the qmail-smtpd program and it mentions something about a rcpthosts file. How do I set that up. Is that my problem? Thanks, Lael Heinig
Re: I get this message when I telnet in
Eric Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get the following message when I telnet in grep: /var/qmail/defaultdelivery/rc: No such file or directory I thought I followed Dave Sill's instructions carefully in Life with Qmail and the Install instructions in the source package. Obviously, I missed something. You've apparently confused/combined /var/qmail/rc and /var/qmail/control/defauldelivery and added a little innovation of your own (grep). So, what do you have in these two files? Wait a minute...you get that when you telnet to port 25? That's not good... -Dave
Re: Manual for Qmail.
At 08:02 PM 5/9/00 +0800, Mark Lo wrote: Hi, I have installed qmail successfully. But when i use the command "man qmail", it just show up a little details about qmail. Where can i download the official and fully explained function about man page. http://cr.yp.to/qmail.html
Re: I get the following message when I telnet in
Eric Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I get the following message when I telnet in
grep: /var/qmail/defaultdelivery/rc: No such file or directory
Wait a minute...you get that when you telnet to port 25? That's not
good...
No, just telnet in on port 23. The message is displayed as if it were
the logon greeting.
Oh. Hmm. Does this happen for other users?
Run the following as root:
find / -type f -exec grep defaultdelivery {} /dev/null \;
That should identify the source of the message. Obviously,
/var/qmail/rc should contain a match. Anything else is suspect.
-Dave
FW: Help with overwhelmed system
Hi; I'm running qmail on freebsd on a HP Vectra with 64megs of RAM and running into what I'm sure is a stupid and avoidable problem. I was sending out about 100,000 messages through the box. It churned through about 50,000, but with the queue at around 35,000, it started choking and stopped accepting new messages: May 9 09:55:36 free /kernel: pid 191 (qmail-send), uid 87 on /var: out of inodes May 9 09:55:36 free qmail: 957866136.697686 alert: unable to append to bounce message; HELP! sleeping... May 9 09:55:46 free /kernel: pid 191 (qmail-send), uid 87 on /var: out of inodes May 9 09:55:46 free qmail: 957866146.705195 alert: unable to append to bounce message; HELP! sleeping... May 9 09:55:56 free /kernel: pid 191 (qmail-send), uid 87 on /var: out of inodes May 9 09:55:56 free qmail: 957866156.715425 alert: unable to append to bounce message; HELP! sleeping... May 9 09:56:06 free /kernel: pid 191 (qmail-send), uid 87 on /var: out of inodes May 9 09:56:06 free qmail: 957866166.728117 alert: unable to append to bounce message; HELP! sleeping... Filesystem 1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on /dev/wd0s1a29766380875 19297530%1043 73835 1% / /dev/wd0s1f 1599187 404570 106668327% 65823 33564716% /usr /dev/wd0s1e396895 121201 24394333% 99832 6 100% /var procfs 440 100% 28 504 5% /proc This is what I suspect I need to do. 1) Add more memory to the box. I know how to do this. 2) Get qmail working concurrently. I know how to do this: qmail FAQ 8.1 3) Set an inode limit on qmailq (??) I don't know if I should do this and I don't know how to do this. 4) Fix the filesystem somehow. Something like increasing the # of available inodes, partitioning? I don't know how to do this. I know this is semi-off-topic. 5) do the the "Patches for high-volume servers" http://qmail.org/top.html#large I'm not sure if this would be necessary. Maybe 1-4 (or something else?) would be sufficient.
Re: origins of Bracketed Quad notation
Peter van Dijk wrote: [the 821] definition is incorrect, in that it allows stuff like [10.10.10.1].vuurwerk.nl I think this was superseded in a later RFC. Thanks, all! I wonder if Postel meant for constructions such as Peter's error to signify numeric addresses internal to private networks. This would be in keeping with 821's emphasis on source routing. __ David Nicol 816.235.1187 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: Help with overwhelmed system
Hi! On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 04:02:39PM -0400, Brad Johnson wrote: Hi; I'm running qmail on freebsd on a HP Vectra with 64megs of RAM and running into what I'm sure is a stupid and avoidable problem. Filesystem 1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on /dev/wd0s1a29766380875 19297530%1043 73835 1% / /dev/wd0s1f 1599187 404570 106668327% 65823 33564716% /usr /dev/wd0s1e396895 121201 24394333% 99832 6 100% /var procfs 440 100% 28 504 5% /proc Your /var partition is obviously full. Too bad. Move stuff in dirs under /var to other physical disks and soft link them back into /var? -Johan -- Johan Almqvist
Re: FW: Help with overwhelmed system
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 04:02:39PM -0400, Brad Johnson wrote: Hi; I'm running qmail on freebsd on a HP Vectra with 64megs of RAM and running into what I'm sure is a stupid and avoidable problem. [snip scary stuff] Filesystem 1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on /dev/wd0s1a29766380875 19297530%1043 73835 1% / /dev/wd0s1f 1599187 404570 106668327% 65823 33564716% /usr /dev/wd0s1e396895 121201 24394333% 99832 6 100% /var procfs 440 100% 28 504 5% /proc This is what I suspect I need to do. 1) Add more memory to the box. I know how to do this. This is a good idea, but completely unrelated to this problem. 2) Get qmail working concurrently. I know how to do this: qmail FAQ 8.1 It works concurrently already. This too won't help fixing this problem. 3) Set an inode limit on qmailq (??) I don't know if I should do this and I don't know how to do this. No, you shouldn't. It's running out of inodes already. 4) Fix the filesystem somehow. Something like increasing the # of available inodes, partitioning? This is the problem, yes. You seem to have one inode per 4kbyte of diskspace. This should always be sufficient. Something is eating lots of inodes on your disk. This might just be the qmail queue. Hmm this is problematic. I just realized that for a disk to run out of space before it runs out of inodes with qmail you need 1 inode per 1k. Yes, you need more inodes. Is there some other server that _can_ handle these kinds of loads, that you can relay to? Try getting rid of as much of these messages (put ":relayhost.dom.com" in /var/qmail/control/smtproutes and -HUP qmail-send), and when your queue is empty, re-create it with 1inode per kbyte. I don't know how to do this. I know this is semi-off-topic. man newfs should help you. Note that your whole /var is on that partition, so backup everything before you do. 5) do the the "Patches for high-volume servers" http://qmail.org/top.html#large I'm not sure if this would be necessary. Maybe 1-4 (or something else?) would be sufficient. And this is another one that is not related to the problem. All your thoughts except nr. 3 are good thoughts, but only 4 fixes this problem. Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
Prevent/counter spams from selective relays?
A couple days ago, I suddenly got a lot bounced messages (I am a postmaster). Looking into their envelopes further, I realized actually they all orginated from a web server in our server cluster. Our qmail is implemented with anti-relay mechanism, but all web servers are selective relays - to allow users' form submissions to go through the mail servers. But these bounces didn't look like like from our users. I got curious and decided to track down the real cause. It turned out a user here thought putting up a web mail CGI program was a fun thing to do :( However, since the poorly written web mail CGI didn't do any authentication or verifications, so *anyone* on the Internet can use it to send to any place, and indeed, some freaks did just that! In a way this user defeated our anti-relay mechanism implemented on the mail servers. Messages generated by form submissions should be allowed to relay through the mail servers. But the above Web mail CGI program is certainly not in the same category. The user is notified, chastised, and told firmly to remove the offending CGI script. But, this incidence has left me wondering whether we can do anything to counter (or even better, prevent) such "internal spam" via selective relays in the future? People tend to repeat others mistakes :( We can setup user policies, but we also know they are rarely read by users :( I have been thinking how to deal with this, but a fact, that messages from the web servers generally only have the web server's identity (e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED]) in the From line, makes it difficult to single the offending ones. Of course, we can run double qmail queues, with a message checking process runing between the two queues filtering out troublesome ones. But this is a really heavy weight approach, not to mention it will eat into our already busy schedule. I wonder whether there are some efficient/light weight approaches that I might have missed? Any hints are appreciated. Regards, Chin Fang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: Help with overwhelmed system
His disk has plenty of physical capacity left, but is out of inodes. He's asking if it's possible to increase the amount of inodes, since he still has space left. On Tue, 9 May 2000, Johan Almqvist wrote: Hi! On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 04:02:39PM -0400, Brad Johnson wrote: Hi; I'm running qmail on freebsd on a HP Vectra with 64megs of RAM and running into what I'm sure is a stupid and avoidable problem. Filesystem 1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on /dev/wd0s1a29766380875 19297530%1043 73835 1% / /dev/wd0s1f 1599187 404570 106668327% 65823 33564716% /usr /dev/wd0s1e396895 121201 24394333% 99832 6 100% /var procfs 440 100% 28 504 5% /proc Your /var partition is obviously full. Too bad. Move stuff in dirs under /var to other physical disks and soft link them back into /var? -Johan -- Johan Almqvist ___ _ __ _ __ /___ ___ /__ John Gonzalez/Net.Tech __ __ \ __ \ __/_ __ `__ \/ __ /_ ___/ MDC Computers/netMDC! _ / / / `__/ /_ / / / / / / /_/ / / /__ (505)437-7600/fax-437-3052 /_/ /_/\___/\__/ /_/ /_/ /_/\__,_/ \___/ http://www.netmdc.com [-[system info]---] 3:20pm up 105 days, 22:17, 6 users, load average: 0.03, 0.11, 0.18
Re: FW: Help with overwhelmed system
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 11:01:11PM +0200, Johan Almqvist wrote: Hi! On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 04:02:39PM -0400, Brad Johnson wrote: Hi; I'm running qmail on freebsd on a HP Vectra with 64megs of RAM and running into what I'm sure is a stupid and avoidable problem. Filesystem 1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on /dev/wd0s1a29766380875 19297530%1043 73835 1% / /dev/wd0s1f 1599187 404570 106668327% 65823 33564716% /usr /dev/wd0s1e396895 121201 24394333% 99832 6 100% /var procfs 440 100% 28 504 5% /proc Your /var partition is obviously full. Too bad. Move stuff in dirs under /var to other physical disks and soft link them back into /var? That will only help for a very short time. The thing chewing up inodes _is_ his qmail-partition, so moving stuff will do little good. I'm about to fix some partitions too, here, to make sure I don't get this problem too. Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
Re: origins of Bracketed Quad notation
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 03:12:52PM -0500, David L. Nicol wrote: Peter van Dijk wrote: [the 821] definition is incorrect, in that it allows stuff like [10.10.10.1].vuurwerk.nl I think this was superseded in a later RFC. Thanks, all! I wonder if Postel meant for constructions such as Peter's error to signify numeric addresses internal to private networks. This would be in keeping with 821's emphasis on source routing. Hmm you do have a point. It's a shame we can't ask him anymore... :( Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
Re: Prevent/counter spams from selective relays?
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 02:01:48PM -0700, Chin Fang wrote: [snip] I have been thinking how to deal with this, but a fact, that messages from the web servers generally only have the web server's identity (e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED]) in the From line, makes it difficult to single the offending ones. The headers should have reliable time stamps. Match up these timestamps with your webserver logs. Tada! Of course, we can run double qmail queues, with a message checking process runing between the two queues filtering out troublesome ones. Double queues are not necessary, a wrapper around qmail-queue would be enough. Also, how would you identity troublesome messages? Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
RE: qmail cdb problem
Greg Owen wrote: :If you entered the second line with that " mark, that's your :problem. Do it without the " mark. I didn't enter it with the " mark. :If you didn't actually use the " mark, then make sure you've created :the symlink from /usr/local/sbin/qmail to /etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail, as is :described in LWQ. Well, when I try to create the symlink for /usr/local/sbin/qmail I get this message: "ln: /usr/local/sbin/qmail: File exists" Then, when I try to enter the second line(/usr/local/sbin/qmail) I get this message: "bash: /usr/local/sbin/qmail: No such file or directory." So... when I actually go to /usr/local/sbin/qmail I see a file there called qmail@ When I do an ls -la it shows me this: qmail - /etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail* What do I need to do? Did I miss a step somewhere? I tried to follow Life With Qmail step for step. Thanks. james
Re: How do you do it?
Steve Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wish I could go on about the things that people said to me, the things I said to people, and the things I heard other techs say - but it would be a novel. Technical support is definitely a unique learning experience No kidding. Taught me the importance of having a chatserver, IRC channel, or *something* like that real time where you can bitch about stuff with other people without having to stop what you're doing. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/
Re: Manage QMail Queue manually
On May 09 2000, Carlo Manuali wrote: Ok, but my problem is on the serialmail... do you know other ways? There may be many other ways indeed, but what is the problem with the solution Dave has proposed? I use it every day, since that's how I send my e-mail to my ISP's mail exploder. []s, Roger... P.S.: The command you should use is maildirsmtp. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/ Nectar homepage: http://www.linux.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/opeth/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
qmail+procmail+maildir
Hi I have a few simple (hopefully) simple questions. 1. Is it possible to use procmail to sort mail into multiple maildirs user one user account? ie: qmail list in one maildir and mutt list in another maildir and normal mail to a third maildir all under the same user account? 2. Does anyone know of any documentation regarding the use of procmail with maildirs? 3. Is this possible using .qmail files instead? I haven't had any luck yet and I don't know if it's because all my mail is fetched from my ISP mail server or what the deal is. Thanks Bob Waskosky
help with smtp
From: Lael Heinig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 12:06:12 -0700 Hi, I am trying to use the qmail-smtpd program. Every time I try to specify the recipient, I get the following message: 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) I did a man on the qmail-smtpd program and it mentions something about a rcpthosts file. How do I set that up. With a text editor. Is that my problem? Thanks, Lael Heinig Yes. http://www.flounder.net/qmail/qmail-howto.html#14 -- Bob Rogers
