Re: OT: CUI MUA that groks Maildirs?

[James T. Perry]

Hi all,

I just wanted to thank all of you who had responded to
this OT question (semi OT since Maildir is included? :).

To my surprise,
within an hour, I received over 10 responses with all of
them mentioning mutt, and I thought to myself - there must
be something very good that I've been missing...

I'm in the midst of digging through the docs, configuring,
making, et al...and all looks good too!

Thanks again.
cheers,

jamie

#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#
-- If somebody can help create a search engine for my room,
   I will call them a Saint...
   GUI == Graphical User Interference

Re: qmail list reply-to

[Andy Bradford]

Thus said Greg White on Thu, 05 Oct 2000 22:09:35 PDT:

> Please, let me be the first:
> 
> http://www.halisp.net/halisp/reply-to-harmful.html

You stole all my glory. :-)  But maybe I can add:

http://cr.yp.to/proto/replyto.html

Which are some good suggestions, though not 100% supported by all.

Andy
-- 
[---[system uptime]]
 12:11am  up 1 day,  1:57,  3 users,  load average: 1.18, 1.25, 1.13

RE: check password

[Austad, Jay]

I 
don't know.  But, if it's not currently possible, you could always hack 
RADIUS support into vpopmail.  Then just set up a RADIUS server on your 
Domain controller for authentication.  With some of the RADIUS libraries, 
it doesn't look that hard.
 
Just a 
thought, I'm sure someone has a better way.
 
Jay

  -Original Message-From: Stano Pa¹ka 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 12:03 
  AMTo: qmail konferenciaSubject: Re: check 
  password
  No one knows? No one answers...
   
  Stano.
   
  - Original Message - 
  
From: 
Stano Pa¹ka 
To: qmail 
konferencia 
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 7:03 
AM
Subject: check password

Can I use users/passwords from WIN NT server 
for qmail/vpopmail?
And how?
 
Stano.
 

Re: qmail list reply-to

[Greg White]

Casey Allen Shobe wrote:
> 
> Is there a reason why there is not a reply-to address specified for this
> mailing list?  I'm accustomed to lists with this feature, which enables me to
> reply to the list easily, and did not notice that I was sending replies
> privately recently...
> 
> --
> Casey Allen Shobe / ASI Technologies
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://cshobe.myip.org
> Slackware 7.1 / Linux Echelon-Pro 2.4.0-test8 i686

Please, let me be the first:

http://www.halisp.net/halisp/reply-to-harmful.html

;)

GW

Re: check password

[Stano Paška]

No one knows? No one answers...
 
Stano.
 
- Original Message - 

  From: 
  Stano Pa¹ka 
  To: qmail konferencia 
  Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 7:03 
  AM
  Subject: check password
  
  Can I use users/passwords from WIN NT server for 
  qmail/vpopmail?
  And how?
   
  Stano.
   

Re: qmail list reply-to

[Bob Ross]

I noticed that also. Some just select reply to all, and it will go both
places, but then the person your replying to will get two of the same email
every time.


- Original Message -
From: "Casey Allen Shobe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 9:43 PM
Subject: qmail list reply-to


> Is there a reason why there is not a reply-to address specified for this
> mailing list?  I'm accustomed to lists with this feature, which enables me
to
> reply to the list easily, and did not notice that I was sending replies
> privately recently...
>
> --
> Casey Allen Shobe / ASI Technologies
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://cshobe.myip.org
> Slackware 7.1 / Linux Echelon-Pro 2.4.0-test8 i686
>

qmail list reply-to

[Casey Allen Shobe]

Is there a reason why there is not a reply-to address specified for this 
mailing list?  I'm accustomed to lists with this feature, which enables me to 
reply to the list easily, and did not notice that I was sending replies 
privately recently...

-- 
Casey Allen Shobe / ASI Technologies
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://cshobe.myip.org
Slackware 7.1 / Linux Echelon-Pro 2.4.0-test8 i686

that old slander

[Russell Nelson]

A friend of mine told me that somebody's repeating that old slander
against qmail -- that it's single RCPT per connection feature is a
denial of service attack, is "brain-damaged", and that "postmasters
all over the world" detest it.

Lemme tell ya, it was old the first time around.  These days, if your
host cannot deal with lots of incoming email, even from the same host,
you'd better fix it.

-- 
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com | A hate crime makes
Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | it illegal to think certain
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | thoughts.  The crime is
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | itself already a crime.

Re: tcpserver

[Jan Knepper]

> Please bear with me this is new to me and I want to learn. I would like to
> know where I put my tcpserver line, should it go in my qmail script file at
> the top or bottom?

I run FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE #3 which has a directory /usr/local/etc/rc.d where
files with extension .sh automaticly get fired up when the system boots. So I
just made a file qmail-pop3d.sh which a comparable line.
Since I don't know what you're running I guess it's hard that I tell you were to
put it...

> Or should I put in an exec bash file all by itself on start up?

That's what I prefer, but who is the one doing it?!

> Can I have more than one tcpserver line to start different things?

Do you mean can you start more than one tcpserver? Sure you can.

> I'm using this as my line in the top of my qmail script:
>
> /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -R 0 pop3 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup tacket.com
> /b
> in/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir 2>&1 |
> /var/qmail/bin/splogg
> er pop3d &
>
> I noticed in the FAQ there are different tcpserver set-ups.  I set this up a
> month ago and looking thru all this documentation I can't remember where I
> copied this from, the FAQ didn't have the -R & -v options that I have.

Well, to be honest, my qmail-pop3d.sh script is a little different as well. I
guess it depends on what you are doing. I also have vpopmail because the host
services more than one domain.

> Other tcpserver set-ups have qmail-smptd in it but I don't.  Do I need it?

pop it something else as smtp.
pop is being used by mail clients (Netscape, Eudora, Outlook, etc) to get the
e-mail from the machine. smtp is used to send e-mail from one machine to an
other.

> I'm implementing the RELAYCLIENT option, [FAQ 5.4] and it says to insert
> the -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb after the tcpserver in my qmail-smtpd invocation,
> but qmail-smtpd isn't in my tcpserver line.  I added that line right after
> the tcpserver and it didn't recognize my username or password, it failed.
> So I put it back the way it was before.  I'm using Maildir on linux.

You will have to start an other tcserver line for qmail-smtpd.
tcpserver is simply speaking just a TCP communications application that can be
instructed to listen on a certain IP address on a certain port and activate a
certain program when something happens on that specified IP+port. You basically
can replace inetd with tcpserver.

Don't worry, be Kneppie!
Jan


--
Jan Knepper
Smartsoft, LLC
88 Petersburg Road
Petersburg, NJ 08270
U.S.A.

http://www.smartsoft.cc/
http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess

Phone : 609-628-4260
FAX   : 609-628-1267
FAX   : 303-845-6415 http://www.fax4free.com/

Phone : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch)
FAX   : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch)

In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate.
-- Charles Forsythe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Volunteers for a multilog patch?

[Russell Nelson]

Peter Samuel writes:
 > - Australian power points (or power outlets if you don't know what
 >   I'm talking about) all have switches on the outlet itself, not at
 >   the wall.

Seems to be part of the UK mains wiring code, because it's in Britain
and India as well.  Even in the server colocation facility in VSNL
(India's national telephone company), the server outlets have
switches.  I was aghast!  Who would ever turn a server off??  If it
were me, I'd devise a little plastic grommet which would go between
the outlet and the plug, and hold the switch *on*, damnit.

Then again, while I was there doing a qmail server install, the
facility lost power (and yes, they have generators in the basement).
Somebody make a *big* boo-boo, once for thirty seconds (which was bad
enough), and then again five minutes later, for fifteen minutes.  Just 
long enough for the e2fsck to get started.  It only took three hours
to complete.

-- 
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com | A hate crime makes
Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | it illegal to think certain
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | thoughts.  The crime is
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | itself already a crime.

Re: To send 500,000 messages

[Russell Nelson]

Henrique Pantarotto writes:
 > I have a couple of questions:
 > 
 > 1) I have searched this mailing-list and I understood that Qmail can 
 > handle this demand very nicely, right?  Are those patches for "high 
 > load servers" really necessary or is the default qmail distribution 
 > (with concurrencyremote set to 100 or something) enough?

Crank your concurrencyremote up as high as you can -- usually 250.
And if your machine is at all capable, it'll still not be at all
loaded, so consider the big-concurrency patch.

 > 2) Whats the best way to send the 500,000 mails?  Send a single 
 > message with 500,000 destination addresses or to send 500,000 
 > messages, one for each email address?

Actually, neither.  Ten messages with 50,000 addresses.  That way they 
each have a separate schedule.

 > 3) If I really need to send 500,000 different messages (for custom 
 > text inside the message) to the users, will this stress Qmail or will 
 > it handle it okay?

It will stress qmail.  I have a better solution, but it's extremely
expensive.  Send me mail off-list for details.

-- 
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com | A hate crime makes
Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | it illegal to think certain
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | thoughts.  The crime is
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | itself already a crime.

Re: Help with my girlfriend?

[Andy Bradford]

Thus said "Scott D. Yelich" on Thu, 05 Oct 2000 20:13:14 MDT:

> you're all gonna make me pull out a unix(1) story
> that I wrote over a decade ago

If this thread goes on, at least have the decency to prepend  to 
the subject so that it will get filtered by those who do not wish to 
discuss this on the qmail list. :-)

Andy
-- 
[---[system uptime]]
  8:39pm  up 22:25,  3 users,  load average: 1.23, 1.24, 1.25

Re: Help with my girlfriend?

[Scott D. Yelich]

On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Peter van Dijk wrote:
> mount?


ok, ok
you're all gonna make me pull out a unix(1) story
that I wrote over a decade ago
the problem is.. so many of the commands
could be taken in a sexual way...

let me find it...

OT: Re: Volunteers for a multilog patch?

[richard]

On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Dave Sill wrote:

> Peter Samuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >- we're metric, the USA isn't (and Canada still hasn't quite made
> >  up its mind yet, even after almost 30 years. And if you think
> >  otherwsie, why do they sell coffee/meat by the pound here?)
> 
> We do some metric. E.g., nutritional information labels are metric. UK
> is half and half, too.

no it is not -- i think you'll find that it's now illegal to sell goods in
'imperial' measures. Since moving to the USA I'm having to learn what all
of these strange measures are. Goods might be dual-labeled, but it's the
Metric measure which is 'standard'.

RjL

RE: To send 500,000 messages

[Austad, Jay]

I also had to use the big concurrency patch.  I do a single message with
150,000 recipients.  Our lists range from 80,000 people to around 200,000
people depending on the list.  I have multiple QMQP servers that do the
sending and the main box load balances between the QMQP servers.  So if I
break the messages into smaller groups of recipients, it will most likely go
out faster since I have more than one server doing the sending.  I haven't
done this yet, but I'll eventually be setting up sublists in my ezmlm setup
to do just this.  All of our newsletters are stock market/financial related,
so the ones that go out during the day are time sensitive.

Jay

-Original Message-
From: Henrique Pantarotto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 8:00 PM
To: Austad, Jay; qmail
Subject: RE: To send 500,000 messages


Jay,

I really loved this VERH patch.  That's exactly what I need, to create a
custom "To" field and perhaps a "click here to unsubscribe" field.

To send 150,000 messages, do you send a single message with all the
recipients or do you send multiple messages (multiple queues)?

And another dumb question: did you apply any other patch to get concurrency
level of 509 or you did that with Qmail as-is?


Thanks a lot!
___
Henrique Pantarotto
SysOp Site São Paulo
Terra Networks Brasil S/A
A Internet mais sua do que nunca
Tel: (11) 5505-5728 r.316/238  ICQ: 6934285  IT: henpa
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Austad, Jay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: quinta-feira, 5 de outubro de 2000 21:33
To: 'Brett Randall'; Henrique Pantarotto; qmail
Subject: RE: To send 500,000 messages


How personalized are they?  Are you just putting the persons email address
in the body of the message?  the VERH patch for qmail will let you do this.


We use this patch and a concurrency level of 509 and it puts out about
150,000 messages every 15 minutes.  I run DJB dns with 100MB memory reserved
for the cache so the mailservers won't have to wait long for queries.
Overall, I'm really impressed with how fast qmail and djbdns work.  I can
saturate one of our DS3's by just sending out mail.  :)

Jay

-Original Message-
From: Brett Randall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 7:48 PM
To: Henrique Pantarotto; qmail
Subject: RE: To send 500,000 messages


> 1) I have searched this mailing-list and I understood that Qmail can
> handle this demand very nicely, right?  Are those patches for "high
> load servers" really necessary or is the default qmail distribution
> (with concurrencyremote set to 100 or something) enough?
They're there for a reason...of course, these presume that your link can
handle a greater concurrency.

> 2) Whats the best way to send the 500,000 mails?  Send a single
> message with 500,000 destination addresses or to send 500,000
> messages, one for each email address?
One message with 500,000 destination addresses. Could you imagine opening up
500,000 smtp connections to a single server? Uh uh.

> 3) If I really need to send 500,000 different messages (for custom
> text inside the message) to the users, will this stress Qmail or will
> it handle it okay?
qmail won't have a problem. But how big is your server? Your server will
likely cack it if you send 500,000 messages from another machine. My best
advice? Generate a template with metatags in it (like , ),
have a database ready, and run it through a perl script that calls
qmail-inject.

If you don't need to customise messages, consider using ezmlm-idx. It will
remove addresses that bounce after 14 days if they can't be resolved, it is
easy to administer, users can subscribe and unsubscribe at whim, it can me
moderated so messages can't be sent to the mailing list unless you authorise
them to be...

/BR

Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/

Re: Help with my girlfriend?

[Julie Baumler]

On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Greg Cope wrote:

> Peter Samuel wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Adam McKenna wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 03:19:33PM -0700, Ihnen, David wrote:
> > > > You know, alot of problems with the opposite sex might be easily figured if
> > > > we had the log file...
> > > >
> > > > The computer doesn't say, "well, if you don't know, I'M not going to tell
> > > > you!"
> > >
> > > strace /dev/gf0
> > 
> > A brave man giving himself options for servicing more than one gf. My
> > system has /dev/wife with no options for others. In fact, the driver
> > will actively hunt down other instances, kill -9 and remove all
> > associated files :)
> 
> Aparently on some OSes (BSD based apparently) mknod will react badly if
> you try and create a /dev/gf{n+1} when a /dev/gf{n} already exists.
> 
> Mysterouly a symlink will develope, and before you know it both have
> disappeared, usually after a period of no service due to total
> consumtion of system resources.
> 
> As for the issues with /dev/children or /dev/mistress ... well I'll shut
> up.
> 

You guys obviously haven't heard about the alternate drivers which have
multiple switches to allow things like a bind and top interface, multiple
instances of /dev/gfn, /dev/bfn, compatibility between /dev/gfn and
/dev/wife, etc.  Unfortunately, there tend to be serious conversion
problems when using existing /dev/gf0, /dev/bf0, /dev/wife, and
/dev/husband device nodes with the alternate drivers which can result in
substancial permanent system resource degradation.  Confusingly, some
nodes can be converted with substantial input of appropriate data prior to
driver conversion; while others are unaffected by this process and other
nodes go into a degraded mode early in the conversion process; often
resulting in the above mentioned node and system resource disappearence.

Julie


PS When I saw the original message, I thought I'd gotten yet
another piece of misdirected mail for my /dev/master (lrwxrwxrwx 1 root
other 20 May 15 15:25 /dev/husband -> /dev/master) 's domain
(crimsonphoenix.org) and was getting ready to do my usual book
recommending spiel.

RE: To send 500,000 messages

[Henrique Pantarotto]

Jay,

I really loved this VERH patch.  That's exactly what I need, to create a
custom "To" field and perhaps a "click here to unsubscribe" field.

To send 150,000 messages, do you send a single message with all the
recipients or do you send multiple messages (multiple queues)?

And another dumb question: did you apply any other patch to get concurrency
level of 509 or you did that with Qmail as-is?


Thanks a lot!
___
Henrique Pantarotto
SysOp Site São Paulo
Terra Networks Brasil S/A
A Internet mais sua do que nunca
Tel: (11) 5505-5728 r.316/238  ICQ: 6934285  IT: henpa
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Austad, Jay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: quinta-feira, 5 de outubro de 2000 21:33
To: 'Brett Randall'; Henrique Pantarotto; qmail
Subject: RE: To send 500,000 messages


How personalized are they?  Are you just putting the persons email address
in the body of the message?  the VERH patch for qmail will let you do this.


We use this patch and a concurrency level of 509 and it puts out about
150,000 messages every 15 minutes.  I run DJB dns with 100MB memory reserved
for the cache so the mailservers won't have to wait long for queries.
Overall, I'm really impressed with how fast qmail and djbdns work.  I can
saturate one of our DS3's by just sending out mail.  :)

Jay

-Original Message-
From: Brett Randall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 7:48 PM
To: Henrique Pantarotto; qmail
Subject: RE: To send 500,000 messages


> 1) I have searched this mailing-list and I understood that Qmail can
> handle this demand very nicely, right?  Are those patches for "high
> load servers" really necessary or is the default qmail distribution
> (with concurrencyremote set to 100 or something) enough?
They're there for a reason...of course, these presume that your link can
handle a greater concurrency.

> 2) Whats the best way to send the 500,000 mails?  Send a single
> message with 500,000 destination addresses or to send 500,000
> messages, one for each email address?
One message with 500,000 destination addresses. Could you imagine opening up
500,000 smtp connections to a single server? Uh uh.

> 3) If I really need to send 500,000 different messages (for custom
> text inside the message) to the users, will this stress Qmail or will
> it handle it okay?
qmail won't have a problem. But how big is your server? Your server will
likely cack it if you send 500,000 messages from another machine. My best
advice? Generate a template with metatags in it (like , ),
have a database ready, and run it through a perl script that calls
qmail-inject.

If you don't need to customise messages, consider using ezmlm-idx. It will
remove addresses that bounce after 14 days if they can't be resolved, it is
easy to administer, users can subscribe and unsubscribe at whim, it can me
moderated so messages can't be sent to the mailing list unless you authorise
them to be...

/BR

Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/

tcpserver

[jim]

Hi,

Please bear with me this is new to me and I want to learn. I would like to
know where I put my tcpserver line, should it go in my qmail script file at
the top or bottom?  Or should I put in an exec bash file all by itself on
start up?  Can I have more than one tcpserver line to start different
things?

I'm using this as my line in the top of my qmail script:

/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -R 0 pop3 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup tacket.com
/b
in/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir 2>&1 |
/var/qmail/bin/splogg
er pop3d &

I noticed in the FAQ there are different tcpserver set-ups.  I set this up a
month ago and looking thru all this documentation I can't remember where I
copied this from, the FAQ didn't have the -R & -v options that I have.
Other tcpserver set-ups have qmail-smptd in it but I don't.  Do I need it?
So far I haven't had any problems with email; all 4 customers have been able
to send/recieve so I guess it's working ok, but I want it to work right.

I'm implementing the RELAYCLIENT option, [FAQ 5.4] and it says to insert
the -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb after the tcpserver in my qmail-smtpd invocation,
but qmail-smtpd isn't in my tcpserver line.  I added that line right after
the tcpserver and it didn't recognize my username or password, it failed.
So I put it back the way it was before.  I'm using Maildir on linux.

Jim

Re: Help with my girlfriend?

[James T. Perry]

Hi (lol),

> 
> for i in /dev/gf*; do
> touch $i
> strip $i
> unzip
> fsck
> fsck
> fsck
> fsck
> yes
> yes
> yes
> yes
> zip
> done

Those were the good old days...

After the /dev/wife appeared in my system (along with
/dev/daughter and /dev/son) my root privs magically
dissappeared...

My /etc/services file is missing now, and I cant get any
connections outbound.

I heard rumors that there are strange rootkits among the
/dev/wife groups that compromises those binaries mentioned
above along with alerts that get redirected to them.

To comfirm this, I tried to check out my network packets
and found out that my sniffer was also compromised, with
all sniffs redirected to /dev/dogsasshole.

Oh well :),

jamie

#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#
-- If somebody can help create a search engine for my room,
   I will call them a Saint...
   GUI == Graphical User Interference

RE: To send 500,000 messages

[Austad, Jay]

How personalized are they?  Are you just putting the persons email address
in the body of the message?  the VERH patch for qmail will let you do this.


We use this patch and a concurrency level of 509 and it puts out about
150,000 messages every 15 minutes.  I run DJB dns with 100MB memory reserved
for the cache so the mailservers won't have to wait long for queries.
Overall, I'm really impressed with how fast qmail and djbdns work.  I can
saturate one of our DS3's by just sending out mail.  :)

Jay

-Original Message-
From: Brett Randall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 7:48 PM
To: Henrique Pantarotto; qmail
Subject: RE: To send 500,000 messages


> 1) I have searched this mailing-list and I understood that Qmail can
> handle this demand very nicely, right?  Are those patches for "high
> load servers" really necessary or is the default qmail distribution
> (with concurrencyremote set to 100 or something) enough?
They're there for a reason...of course, these presume that your link can
handle a greater concurrency.

> 2) Whats the best way to send the 500,000 mails?  Send a single
> message with 500,000 destination addresses or to send 500,000
> messages, one for each email address?
One message with 500,000 destination addresses. Could you imagine opening up
500,000 smtp connections to a single server? Uh uh.

> 3) If I really need to send 500,000 different messages (for custom
> text inside the message) to the users, will this stress Qmail or will
> it handle it okay?
qmail won't have a problem. But how big is your server? Your server will
likely cack it if you send 500,000 messages from another machine. My best
advice? Generate a template with metatags in it (like , ),
have a database ready, and run it through a perl script that calls
qmail-inject.

If you don't need to customise messages, consider using ezmlm-idx. It will
remove addresses that bounce after 14 days if they can't be resolved, it is
easy to administer, users can subscribe and unsubscribe at whim, it can me
moderated so messages can't be sent to the mailing list unless you authorise
them to be...

/BR

Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/

Re: Help with my girlfriend?

[Fabrice Scemama]

Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Peter Samuel wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Adam McKenna wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 03:19:33PM -0700, Ihnen, David wrote:
> > > > You know, alot of problems with the opposite sex might be easily figured if
> > > > we had the log file...
> > > >
> > > > The computer doesn't say, "well, if you don't know, I'M not going to tell
> > > > you!"
> > >
> > > strace /dev/gf0
> >
> > A brave man giving himself options for servicing more than one gf. My
> > system has /dev/wife with no options for others. In fact, the driver
> > will actively hunt down other instances, kill -9 and remove all
> > associated files :)
> 
> That's because at one time you did a  mv /dev/gf0 /dev/wife   :)
> 
> Vince.

What a bad admin you are!
you should have done a ln -s /dev/gf0 /dev/wife instead of
using mv, this would have made divorce quite easier :)

Fabrice

Re: OT: CUI MUA that groks Maildirs?

[Rob Hines Jr.]

Do Pine and Elm count as GUI? They both grok maildir, so does Mutt.

Rob

On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, James T. Perry wrote:

> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Sorry for the OT but I was wondering if anyone knew of a
> non-GUI based MUAs that groks Maildirs, as simple as say
> binmail? (I don't need/want any fancy features)
> 
> I guess I could do a dirty perl hack but I don't grok
> Maildirs and its features myself yet, so thought I'll
> ask you folks first if there was something out there
> already.
> 
> I've run a search at freshmeat and the closest I came
> to was MH that does Maildirs:
>   The Maildir MH Project
>   http://www.nb.net/~lbudney/linux/mdmh.html
> 
> OTOH,
> I guess if I had a daemon (pop/imap/whatever) that groks
> Maildirs it wouldn't be so much of a problem...
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> jamie
> 
> #-#-#-#-#-#-#-#
> -- If somebody can help create a search engine for my room,
>I will call them a Saint...
>GUI == Graphical User Interference
> 

RE: DJB Girlfriend V 1.0 - a solution for all

[Brett Randall]

I think we had better start with v0.1a...a lot of things tend to go wrong
with girlfriends and we should get it all sorted before we release it for
public abusing pleasure :>

/BR


Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/

Re: To send 500,000 messages

[Peter Samuel]

On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Henrique Pantarotto wrote:

> Hello qmail friends!
> 
> I have a project that I have to send regularly 500,000 mails (it is 
> not a SPAM) to a list of users (every week or so).
> 
> I have a couple of questions:
> 
> 1) I have searched this mailing-list and I understood that Qmail can 
> handle this demand very nicely, right?  Are those patches for "high 
> load servers" really necessary or is the default qmail distribution 
> (with concurrencyremote set to 100 or something) enough?

Depends on how big the messages are and how slow the receiving sites
are. Short messages to fast sites work best.

> 
> 2) Whats the best way to send the 500,000 mails?  Send a single 
> message with 500,000 destination addresses or to send 500,000 
> messages, one for each email address?

As far as the queue is concerned, one message to many recipients is
better because you only create a few files. qmail tends to be disk
bound rather than cpu or network bound (another generalisation, that's
two today). From a management point of view, it might be easier to
keep track of 500 messages to 1000 recipients each rather than one
messages to 500,000 recipients. (Insert your own sensible numbers in
here).

> 
> 3) If I really need to send 500,000 different messages (for custom 
> text inside the message) to the users, will this stress Qmail or will 
> it handle it okay?

The biggest bottle neck will be in getting the messages into and
out of the queue. On the assumption that a good deal of them will be
successfully delivered first time, you can completely bypass the queue
and call qmail-remote directly (see the man page, the interface is really
simple) and if the message fails, then you stick it in the queue using
qmail-inject.

You can arrange to call qmail-remote to deliver many messages (to the
same domain) at once, rather than one at a time. However, if you need
to customise each message, then you'll need to call qmail-remote
500,000 times.

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RE: To send 500,000 messages

[Brett Randall]

> 1) I have searched this mailing-list and I understood that Qmail can
> handle this demand very nicely, right?  Are those patches for "high
> load servers" really necessary or is the default qmail distribution
> (with concurrencyremote set to 100 or something) enough?
They're there for a reason...of course, these presume that your link can
handle a greater concurrency.

> 2) Whats the best way to send the 500,000 mails?  Send a single
> message with 500,000 destination addresses or to send 500,000
> messages, one for each email address?
One message with 500,000 destination addresses. Could you imagine opening up
500,000 smtp connections to a single server? Uh uh.

> 3) If I really need to send 500,000 different messages (for custom
> text inside the message) to the users, will this stress Qmail or will
> it handle it okay?
qmail won't have a problem. But how big is your server? Your server will
likely cack it if you send 500,000 messages from another machine. My best
advice? Generate a template with metatags in it (like , ),
have a database ready, and run it through a perl script that calls
qmail-inject.

If you don't need to customise messages, consider using ezmlm-idx. It will
remove addresses that bounce after 14 days if they can't be resolved, it is
easy to administer, users can subscribe and unsubscribe at whim, it can me
moderated so messages can't be sent to the mailing list unless you authorise
them to be...

/BR

Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/

Re: IMAP support

[Ben Beuchler]

On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 07:00:31PM -0400, Casey Allen Shobe wrote:

> I've been having the worst luck getting an imap server working.  I had 
> whatever came with my distro (I think the washington one), but when I'd try 
> to get a list of folders it (after an hour or so) showed me every folder on 
> my system.  Not what I want.
> 
> I tried cyrus, but can't seem to get it working with qmail, and I want my 
> users to each have a home directory and be in passwd anyways.
> 
> Any advice?  What IMAP servers do you guys use?  How do you set IMAP up?

Courier is my favorite.

http://www.inter7.com/courierimap/

-- 
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MAILER-DAEMON (612) 321-9290 x101
Bitstream Underground   www.bitstream.net

DJB Girlfriend V 1.0 - a solution for all

[Ihnen, David]

Hey, I have the solution!

Since we all know the DJB writes the best little programs, we should
commission him to write a girlfriend/wife program.  Not only would it be
easily configurable with text files and reference cdb files for speedy
access to the checking account balance, but we can easily modify behavior by
simply setting an environment variable as we walk in the door!  Like
"NOWHINE" or "GETMEABEER" or "MAKEMEDINNER".  And whenever we got tired of
it, we could svc -d and it wouldn't interrupt the system any more.

We could patch the program to provide DJBDog, which chews on everything,
DJBCat which refuses to listen to signals from supervise, and DJBChild who
voraciously learns everything on DJB's site and starts cranking out the
perfect OS...

Well, its a dream.

David

RE: IMAP support

[Brett Randall]

> Any advice?  What IMAP servers do you guys use?  How do you set IMAP up?

Try Courier IMAP (look on qmail.org). I have been using that one and it
appears to work fine, with virtually no config (ok, a tad, but not much)
needed.

/BR


Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/

Re: OT: CUI MUA that groks Maildirs?

[Peter Green]

also sprach kraziej:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Sorry for the OT but I was wondering if anyone knew of a
> non-GUI based MUAs that groks Maildirs, as simple as say
> binmail? (I don't need/want any fancy features)

mutt. 

Configure until your heart's content, or (as in your case) use it right out
of the box (mostly).

/pg
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---
I can't stand cheap people. It makes me real mad when someone says something 
like: Hey, when are you going to pay me that $100 you owe me? or: Do you have 
that $50 you borrowed? Man, quit being so cheap!
 (Jack Handey)

To send 500,000 messages

[Henrique Pantarotto]

Hello qmail friends!

I have a project that I have to send regularly 500,000 mails (it is 
not a SPAM) to a list of users (every week or so).

I have a couple of questions:

1) I have searched this mailing-list and I understood that Qmail can 
handle this demand very nicely, right?  Are those patches for "high 
load servers" really necessary or is the default qmail distribution 
(with concurrencyremote set to 100 or something) enough?

2) Whats the best way to send the 500,000 mails?  Send a single 
message with 500,000 destination addresses or to send 500,000 
messages, one for each email address?

3) If I really need to send 500,000 different messages (for custom 
text inside the message) to the users, will this stress Qmail or will 
it handle it okay?


Thanks a lot!


Henrique Pantarotto
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Help with my girlfriend?

[Greg Cope]

Peter Samuel wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Adam McKenna wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 03:19:33PM -0700, Ihnen, David wrote:
> > > You know, alot of problems with the opposite sex might be easily figured if
> > > we had the log file...
> > >
> > > The computer doesn't say, "well, if you don't know, I'M not going to tell
> > > you!"
> >
> > strace /dev/gf0
> 
> A brave man giving himself options for servicing more than one gf. My
> system has /dev/wife with no options for others. In fact, the driver
> will actively hunt down other instances, kill -9 and remove all
> associated files :)

Aparently on some OSes (BSD based apparently) mknod will react badly if
you try and create a /dev/gf{n+1} when a /dev/gf{n} already exists.

Mysterouly a symlink will develope, and before you know it both have
disappeared, usually after a period of no service due to total
consumtion of system resources.

As for the issues with /dev/children or /dev/mistress ... well I'll shut
up.

I have enjoyed this thread - Thanks.

Greg Cope

> 
> --
> Regards
> Peter
> --
> Peter Samuel[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.e-smith.org (development)http://www.e-smith.com (corporate)
> Phone: +1 613 368 4398  Fax: +1 613 564 7739
> e-smith, inc. 1500-150 Metcalfe St, Ottawa, ON K2P 1P1 Canada
> 
> "If you kill all your unhappy customers, you'll only have happy ones left"

Re: Help with my girlfriend?

[Robin S. Socha]

* Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> strace /dev/gf0

No wonder you guys never score. You need to get a sexier OS.
-- 
Robin "TGIFree^H^H^H^HOpenBSD" Socha 

Re: OT: CUI MUA that groks Maildirs?

[Peter van Dijk]

On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 07:56:24AM +0900, James T. Perry wrote:
> OTOH,
> I guess if I had a daemon (pop/imap/whatever) that groks
> Maildirs it wouldn't be so much of a problem...

qmail-pop3d? Courier-IMAP?

Greetz, Peter
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dataloss networks
'/ignore-ance is bliss' - me

Re: Help with my girlfriend?

[Chris Garrigues]

> From:  "Ihnen, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date:  Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:19:33 -0700 
>
> You know, alot of problems with the opposite sex might be easily figured if
> we had the log file...
> 
> The computer doesn't say, "well, if you don't know, I'M not going to tell
> you!"

Having just tried (unsuccessfully) to get freeswan up and running with a
Sonic firewall, I can tell you that sometimes computers do say that. :-(

Chris

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  but they could get fired for relying on Microsoft.



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IMAP support

[Casey Allen Shobe]

I've been having the worst luck getting an imap server working.  I had 
whatever came with my distro (I think the washington one), but when I'd try 
to get a list of folders it (after an hour or so) showed me every folder on 
my system.  Not what I want.

I tried cyrus, but can't seem to get it working with qmail, and I want my 
users to each have a home directory and be in passwd anyways.

Any advice?  What IMAP servers do you guys use?  How do you set IMAP up?

-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://cshobe.myip.org
Slackware 7.1 / Linux Echelon-Pro 2.4.0-test8 i686

RE: Help with my girlfriend?

[David Bergerson]

Ok, I have had too much fun laughing at this thread.

I am sorry that your system only allows for one wife instance.  Obviously
you are not a mormom.

But as the true pig that my /dev/wife thinks I am (acutally it is more like
/drain$/wife).  I would have
/dev/wife
/dev/exwife
/dev/gf0
/dev/gf ad nausem.

Now as the true pig, why isn't he happy that she is a lesbian.  They make
the best.  They like to share and share and share ..

But the problem with most wives is they demand su rights!  Can't they just
be in the nobody group.

:)

-Original Message-
From: Peter Samuel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 6:39 PM
To: Adam McKenna
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Help with my girlfriend?


On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Adam McKenna wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 03:19:33PM -0700, Ihnen, David wrote:
> > You know, alot of problems with the opposite sex might be easily figured
if
> > we had the log file...
> >
> > The computer doesn't say, "well, if you don't know, I'M not going to
tell
> > you!"
>
> strace /dev/gf0

A brave man giving himself options for servicing more than one gf. My
system has /dev/wife with no options for others. In fact, the driver
will actively hunt down other instances, kill -9 and remove all
associated files :)

--
Regards
Peter
--
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http://www.e-smith.org (development)http://www.e-smith.com (corporate)
Phone: +1 613 368 4398  Fax: +1 613 564 7739
e-smith, inc. 1500-150 Metcalfe St, Ottawa, ON K2P 1P1 Canada

"If you kill all your unhappy customers, you'll only have happy ones left"

RE: Help with my girlfriend?

[Brett Randall]

> >Ahem? :>
>
> What?

As in...what the hec are you talking about kind of ahem? :> I don't remember
any spam/trolls incidents...but then again...I don't keep my eye out on
alt.sex.* either :>

/BR


Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/

Re: Help with my girlfriend?

[Peter Samuel]

On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Adam McKenna wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 09:35:06AM +1000, Brett Randall wrote:
> > > strace /dev/gf0
> > 
> > No, I think you've got it wrong. I think its strace /dev/gf6 at the
> > moment...
> 
>   for i in /dev/gf*; do
>   touch $i
>   strip $i
>   unzip
>   fsck
>   fsck
>   fsck
>   fsck
>   yes
>   yes
>   yes
>   yes
>   zip
>   done

/bin/false

-- 
Regards
Peter
--
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http://www.e-smith.org (development)http://www.e-smith.com (corporate)
Phone: +1 613 368 4398  Fax: +1 613 564 7739
e-smith, inc. 1500-150 Metcalfe St, Ottawa, ON K2P 1P1 Canada

"If you kill all your unhappy customers, you'll only have happy ones left"

Re: Help with my girlfriend?

[Peter van Dijk]

On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 06:44:13PM -0400, Adam McKenna wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 09:35:06AM +1000, Brett Randall wrote:
> > > strace /dev/gf0
> > 
> > No, I think you've got it wrong. I think its strace /dev/gf6 at the
> > moment...
> 
>   for i in /dev/gf*; do
>   touch $i
>   strip $i
>   unzip
>   fsck
>   fsck
>   fsck
>   fsck

mount?

Greetz, Peter
-- 
dataloss networks
'/ignore-ance is bliss' - me

RE: Help with my girlfriend?

[Austad, Jay]

If she's just not paying attention to you, you should probably remove
/dev/vbrtr0 and /dev/othrbf0.  

-Original Message-
From: Peter van Dijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:46 PM
To: qmail
Subject: Re: Help with my girlfriend?


On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 09:35:06AM +1000, Brett Randall wrote:
> > strace /dev/gf0
> 
> No, I think you've got it wrong. I think its strace /dev/gf6 at the
> moment...

That depends on your interface renumbering standards. Rebooting in
between relations is a good thing.

Greetz, Peter
-- 
dataloss networks
'/ignore-ance is bliss' - me

Re: Clustering Qmail

[Peter Green]

also sprach andyb:
> On Thu, 05 Oct 2000 11:08:38 EDT, Dave Sill wrote:
> 
> > Yeah, AFS *looks* good on paper... Know anyone who's actually using
> > it? What do they think of it?

I'd be interested in hearing about this as well.

> What about Coda?  Is it a viable solution for a distributed filesystem? 
>  It has been in development since 1987 if I remember correctly...  You 
> would think that is enough time to mature. :-)

I posted to the coda mailing list asking just this. I will cut-and-paste all
of the responses I got:

---start responses---
---end responses---

HTH!

(FWIW, it looks fairly stable, but still horrendously complex. I don't think
I would trust it to a production system, if for no other reason than it
seems awfully easy to mess up.)

/pg
-- 
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---
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Re: Help with my girlfriend?

[Kris Kelley]

> A brave man giving himself options for servicing more than one gf. My
> system has /dev/wife with no options for others. In fact, the driver
> will actively hunt down other instances, kill -9 and remove all
> associated files :)

After which the device unmounts, causing half of your other files to
disappear.

---Kris Kelley

OT: CUI MUA that groks Maildirs?

[James T. Perry]

Hi all,

Sorry for the OT but I was wondering if anyone knew of a
non-GUI based MUAs that groks Maildirs, as simple as say
binmail? (I don't need/want any fancy features)

I guess I could do a dirty perl hack but I don't grok
Maildirs and its features myself yet, so thought I'll
ask you folks first if there was something out there
already.

I've run a search at freshmeat and the closest I came
to was MH that does Maildirs:
  The Maildir MH Project
  http://www.nb.net/~lbudney/linux/mdmh.html

OTOH,
I guess if I had a daemon (pop/imap/whatever) that groks
Maildirs it wouldn't be so much of a problem...

Thanks in advance,

jamie

#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#
-- If somebody can help create a search engine for my room,
   I will call them a Saint...
   GUI == Graphical User Interference

Re: Help with my girlfriend?

[Jerry Lynde]

At 04:45 PM 10/5/2000, you wrote:
>On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 09:35:06AM +1000, Brett Randall wrote:
> > > strace /dev/gf0
> >
> > No, I think you've got it wrong. I think its strace /dev/gf6 at the
> > moment...
>
>That depends on your interface renumbering standards. Rebooting in
>between relations is a good thing.

if you view rebooting as a system-wide kill and restart, um... that might 
not be such a good idea...
something on the order of shutdown -h forever

Jer

Re: Help with my girlfriend?

[Vince Vielhaber]

On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Peter Samuel wrote:

> On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Adam McKenna wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 03:19:33PM -0700, Ihnen, David wrote:
> > > You know, alot of problems with the opposite sex might be easily figured if
> > > we had the log file...
> > > 
> > > The computer doesn't say, "well, if you don't know, I'M not going to tell
> > > you!"
> > 
> > strace /dev/gf0
> 
> A brave man giving himself options for servicing more than one gf. My
> system has /dev/wife with no options for others. In fact, the driver
> will actively hunt down other instances, kill -9 and remove all
> associated files :)

That's because at one time you did a  mv /dev/gf0 /dev/wife   :)

Vince.
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RE: Help with my girlfriend?

[Jerry Lynde]

At 05:33 PM 10/5/2000, Brett Randall wrote:
> > Reminds me of the way spam/trolls/etc. was treated on alt.sex.cthulhu few
> > years back...
> >
> > had to say somehting...I'll be quiet now
>
>Ahem? :>

What?


Jer

Re: Help with my girlfriend?

[Adam McKenna]

On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 09:35:06AM +1000, Brett Randall wrote:
> > strace /dev/gf0
> 
> No, I think you've got it wrong. I think its strace /dev/gf6 at the
> moment...

for i in /dev/gf*; do
touch $i
strip $i
unzip
fsck
fsck
fsck
fsck
yes
yes
yes
yes
zip
done

--Adam

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Re: Help with my girlfriend?

[Peter van Dijk]

On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 09:35:06AM +1000, Brett Randall wrote:
> > strace /dev/gf0
> 
> No, I think you've got it wrong. I think its strace /dev/gf6 at the
> moment...

That depends on your interface renumbering standards. Rebooting in
between relations is a good thing.

Greetz, Peter
-- 
dataloss networks
'/ignore-ance is bliss' - me

Re: Help with my girlfriend?

[Peter Samuel]

On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Adam McKenna wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 03:19:33PM -0700, Ihnen, David wrote:
> > You know, alot of problems with the opposite sex might be easily figured if
> > we had the log file...
> > 
> > The computer doesn't say, "well, if you don't know, I'M not going to tell
> > you!"
> 
> strace /dev/gf0

A brave man giving himself options for servicing more than one gf. My
system has /dev/wife with no options for others. In fact, the driver
will actively hunt down other instances, kill -9 and remove all
associated files :)

-- 
Regards
Peter
--
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http://www.e-smith.org (development)http://www.e-smith.com (corporate)
Phone: +1 613 368 4398  Fax: +1 613 564 7739
e-smith, inc. 1500-150 Metcalfe St, Ottawa, ON K2P 1P1 Canada

"If you kill all your unhappy customers, you'll only have happy ones left"

RE: Help with my girlfriend?

[Brett Randall]

> strace /dev/gf0

No, I think you've got it wrong. I think its strace /dev/gf6 at the
moment...

/BR


Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/

RE: Help with my girlfriend?

[Brett Randall]

> Reminds me of the way spam/trolls/etc. was treated on alt.sex.cthulhu few 
> years back...
> 
> had to say somehting...I'll be quiet now

Ahem? :>

/BR

 
Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/

Re: Help with my girlfriend?

[Peter van Dijk]

On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 03:19:33PM -0700, Ihnen, David wrote:
> You know, alot of problems with the opposite sex might be easily figured if
> we had the log file...
> 
> The computer doesn't say, "well, if you don't know, I'M not going to tell
> you!"

'If that is the case, I will tell you or *let you notice*'. That kind of
thing? :)

Let's stop this thread before it kills me laughing :)

Greetz, Peter
-- 
dataloss networks
'/ignore-ance is bliss' - me

Re: Help with my girlfriend?

[Adam McKenna]

On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 03:19:33PM -0700, Ihnen, David wrote:
> You know, alot of problems with the opposite sex might be easily figured if
> we had the log file...
> 
> The computer doesn't say, "well, if you don't know, I'M not going to tell
> you!"

strace /dev/gf0

--Adam

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RE: Help with my girlfriend?

[Ihnen, David]

You know, alot of problems with the opposite sex might be easily figured if
we had the log file...

The computer doesn't say, "well, if you don't know, I'M not going to tell
you!"

David


> -Original Message-
> From: Peter van Dijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 2:27 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Help with my girlfriend?
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 01:46:16PM -0700, Ihnen, David wrote:
> > Sure, what does the log say?
> 
> You're a genious :)
> 
> Greetz, Peter
> -- 
> dataloss networks
> '/ignore-ance is bliss' - me
> 

Re: POP3 in qmail+mysql very slow

[Charles Cazabon]

Luis Bezerra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I use qmail+mysql in my ISP and I verified that the POP3 server is very slow.
> Sometimes Netscape goes out by Time out.

This is in all the FAQs.  Try adding -R -H to your tcpserver invocation.

Charles
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Re: Help with my girlfriend?

[Jerry Lynde]

Reminds me of the way spam/trolls/etc. was treated on alt.sex.cthulhu few 
years back...

had to say somehting...I'll be quiet now

Jer

At 03:00 PM 10/5/2000, Peter van Dijk wrote:
>On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 08:33:22PM +, Wheres Mybrudda wrote:
> > Hello. Is this the right place to come for help with my girlfriend? A 
> friend
> > told me that if I came to the Qinky Mothers After Indigenous Lesbians list
> > then you can tell me what I have to do to win back my South-Asian 
> girlfriend
> > from her qinky mumma.
>
>You have come to the right place. We can teach you how to devote your
>time to much more useful things than your girlfriend (which seems lost
>to some scantily clad females anyway), like qmail and other cool
>software.
>
>Greetz, Peter
>--
>dataloss networks
>'/ignore-ance is bliss' - me

POP3 in qmail+mysql very slow

[Luis Bezerra]

Hello everyone,
 
I use qmail+mysql in my ISP and I verified that the 
POP3 server is very slow. Sometimes Netscape goes out by Time out.
 
Anyone knows this problem?
 
thanks in advance
Luis
 

Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1)

[Eddie Greer]

Greeting,

I'm in need of some help.  I just reformatted my hard disk and started over
from scratch.  Im running qmail 1.03 and vpopmail 4.9.4.

I don't have any /etc/passwd users.  I installed vpopmail and everytime I
send mail to one of the user I get a returned mail saying "Sorry, no mailbox
here by that name. (#5.1.1)"

I have the pop3d daemon running as the vpopmail user

vchkpw and vpopmail owns everything in the users directory including the
Maildir.



EG

RE: connection refused on port 25

[Alexander Jernejcic]

hoops,
should go to bed now - seems a little too late for mee 

;) a

==
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email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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==

> -Original Message-
> From: Peter Samuel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 11:09 PM
> To: Barley
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: connection refused on port 25
> 
> 
> On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Barley wrote:
> 
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > > is there a space between -x and /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb ?
> > > if so, remove it. that's the only thing that looks suspicous...
> > 
> > There sure was a space. I changed it and did a full reboot so I didn't miss
> > restarting anything. No dice. Connections to port 25 still refused. :(
> 
> You define QMAILUID, but then you use QMAILDUID. Fix the typo and it
> should work.
> 
> 
> > > > My startup script: (/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/run)
> > > > #!/bin/bash
> *   > > > QMAILUID=`id -u qmaild`
> > > > NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild`
> > > > exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 200
> > /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -p -x
> *   > > > /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u $QMAILDUID -g $NOFILESGID 0 smtp
> > > > /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smptpd 2>&1
> 
> -- 
> Regards
> Peter
> --
> Peter Samuel[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.e-smith.org (development)http://www.e-smith.com (corporate)
> Phone: +1 613 368 4398  Fax: +1 613 564 7739
> e-smith, inc. 1500-150 Metcalfe St, Ottawa, ON K2P 1P1 Canada
> 
> "If you kill all your unhappy customers, you'll only have happy ones left"
> 
> 

Re: connection refused on port 25

[Adam McKenna]

On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 11:17:41PM +0200, Martin Jespersen wrote:
> i might be wrong here but according to the man page of tcpserver that i have on my 
>server
> there SHOULD be a space between -x and the cdb file name.

It doesn't matter.  There is something else wrong with his setup.  Why
doesn't he just post his tcpserver line instead of making us guess about it?

--Adam

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xinetd vs. tcpserver

[Martin Jespersen]

Hi all

I have just switched from tcpserver to xinetd for simpler management since i need to 
be able to use
the libwrap method of handeling access (/etc/hosts.(allow|deny))

The reasons why i need libwrap support is many and i won't bother you with it.

I've got it up and running and everything seems to be fine...

I would however like if you could point out negative implications that this switch 
might have?

I know that performance (speed) probably is a bit lower with xinetd than with 
tcpserver, but i can't
see anything else than that.

/Martin

Re: Help with my girlfriend?

[Peter van Dijk]

On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 01:46:16PM -0700, Ihnen, David wrote:
> Sure, what does the log say?

You're a genious :)

Greetz, Peter
-- 
dataloss networks
'/ignore-ance is bliss' - me

RE: connection refused on port 25

[Ihnen, David]

use 'netstat --listening' while the program is running, and see if it lists
a program doing the listening.  Do it while its not running, and see if it
DOESN'T list it listening.

My program shows

[root@CIO-QMAIL1 /root]# netstat --listening
Active Internet connections (only servers)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address   Foreign Address State

tcp0  0 *:smtp  *:* LISTEN


BTW: Does your cdb file completely deny access to anything?

David


> -Original Message-
> From: Barley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 1:34 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: connection refused on port 25
> 
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> > is there a space between -x and /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb ?
> > if so, remove it. that's the only thing that looks suspicous...
> 
> There sure was a space. I changed it and did a full reboot so 
> I didn't miss
> restarting anything. No dice. Connections to port 25 still refused. :(
> 
> >
> > ;) a
> >
> > ==
> > Alexander Jernejcic
> > email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > begin LOVE-LETTER-UND-NIX-DAZUGELERNT.txt.vbs
> > I am a Signature, not a Virus!
> > end
> >
> > ==
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Barley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 9:48 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: connection refused on port 25
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > hi,
> > > > please post your startupscript. seems a to by a typo at 
> the call of
> > > tcpserver...
> > > >
> > >
> > > My startup script: (/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/run)
> > > #!/bin/bash
> > > QMAILUID=`id -u qmaild`
> > > NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild`
> > > exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 200
> /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -p -x
> > > /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u $QMAILDUID -g $NOFILESGID 0 smtp
> > > /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smptpd 2>&1
> > >
> > > The exec command is all one line
> > > Thanks so much for your help!
> > >
> > > Gregg
> > >
> > >
> > > > ;) a
> > > >
> > > > ==
> > > > Alexander Jernejcic
> > > > email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > > begin LOVE-LETTER-UND-NIX-DAZUGELERNT.txt.vbs
> > > > I am a Signature, not a Virus!
> > > > end
> > > >
> > > > ==
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Barley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 8:29 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: connection refused on port 25
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > qmail is refusing my connection on port 25. 
> qmail-smtpd seems to be
> up
> > > and
> > > > > running fine. I catted the most recent file in the 
> log directory
> (not
> > > sure
> > > > > how you're supposed to use multilog) and it had a ton of lines
> saying:
> > > > >
> > > > > tcpserver: fatal: no IP address for 510
> > > > >
> > > > > over and over and over. Does this have anything to do with my
> failure to
> > > > > connect on port 25? How can I track down why qmail is refusing
> > > connections?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks a lot for your help so far. The qmail 
> community is obviously
> > > > > well-informed and knowledgable, which after working 
> with MTA's for a
> > > while I
> > > > > can see is tough stuff to master. I look forward to 
> poking around my
> > > > > (working ;) qmail setup and learning more.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gregg
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> 

RE: Help with my girlfriend?

[Alexander Jernejcic]

(tm) ...
==
Alexander Jernejcic  
email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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==

> -Original Message-
> From: Ihnen, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 10:46 PM
> To: 'Wheres Mybrudda'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Help with my girlfriend?
> 
> 
> Sure, what does the log say?
> 
> David
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Wheres Mybrudda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 1:33 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Help with my girlfriend?
> > 
> > 
> > Hello. Is this the right place to come for help with my 
> > girlfriend? A friend 
> > told me that if I came to the Qinky Mothers After Indigenous 
> > Lesbians list 
> > then you can tell me what I have to do to win back my 
> > South-Asian girlfriend 
> > from her qinky mumma.
> > 
> > Thank you!
> > 
> > Wheres.
> > __
> > ___
> > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at 
> > http://www.hotmail.com.
> > 
> > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at 
> > http://profiles.msn.com.
> > 
> 

RE: connection refused on port 25

[Alexander Jernejcic]

hi again,

is 510 users id of qmaild or the group id? btw. is the log-message still the same?
and not to forget, is the -p (paranoid) really necessary?
try -R -H (only for testing) to switch off the paranoid stuff.

did you try a "telnet localhost 25" or a connection from a remote station?

:) a

==
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==

> -Original Message-
> From: Barley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 10:34 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: connection refused on port 25
> 
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> > is there a space between -x and /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb ?
> > if so, remove it. that's the only thing that looks suspicous...
> 
> There sure was a space. I changed it and did a full reboot so I didn't miss
> restarting anything. No dice. Connections to port 25 still refused. :(

Re: connection refused on port 25

[Martin Jespersen]

i might be wrong here but according to the man page of tcpserver that i have on my 
server
there SHOULD be a space between -x and the cdb file name.

anyway...

Have you tried to use tcprulescheck to check the rules you've set up?
What does your log files say?
Shouldn't your group be nofiles and not qmaild?

you can try to ass -H -R -l  to the tcpserver switches, maybe it is 
chocking on
information gathering...

/Martin


Barley wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > is there a space between -x and /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb ?
> > if so, remove it. that's the only thing that looks suspicous...
> 
> There sure was a space. I changed it and did a full reboot so I didn't miss
> restarting anything. No dice. Connections to port 25 still refused. :(
> 
> >
> > ;) a
> >
> > ==
> > Alexander Jernejcic
> > email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > begin LOVE-LETTER-UND-NIX-DAZUGELERNT.txt.vbs
> > I am a Signature, not a Virus!
> > end
> >
> > ==
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Barley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 9:48 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: connection refused on port 25
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > hi,
> > > > please post your startupscript. seems a to by a typo at the call of
> > > tcpserver...
> > > >
> > >
> > > My startup script: (/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/run)
> > > #!/bin/bash
> > > QMAILUID=`id -u qmaild`
> > > NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild`
> > > exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 200
> /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -p -x
> > > /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u $QMAILDUID -g $NOFILESGID 0 smtp
> > > /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smptpd 2>&1
> > >
> > > The exec command is all one line
> > > Thanks so much for your help!
> > >
> > > Gregg
> > >
> > >
> > > > ;) a
> > > >
> > > > ==
> > > > Alexander Jernejcic
> > > > email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > > begin LOVE-LETTER-UND-NIX-DAZUGELERNT.txt.vbs
> > > > I am a Signature, not a Virus!
> > > > end
> > > >
> > > > ==
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Barley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 8:29 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: connection refused on port 25
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > qmail is refusing my connection on port 25. qmail-smtpd seems to be
> up
> > > and
> > > > > running fine. I catted the most recent file in the log directory
> (not
> > > sure
> > > > > how you're supposed to use multilog) and it had a ton of lines
> saying:
> > > > >
> > > > > tcpserver: fatal: no IP address for 510
> > > > >
> > > > > over and over and over. Does this have anything to do with my
> failure to
> > > > > connect on port 25? How can I track down why qmail is refusing
> > > connections?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks a lot for your help so far. The qmail community is obviously
> > > > > well-informed and knowledgable, which after working with MTA's for a
> > > while I
> > > > > can see is tough stuff to master. I look forward to poking around my
> > > > > (working ;) qmail setup and learning more.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gregg
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >

Re: connection refused on port 25

[Peter Samuel]

On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Barley wrote:

> 
> > Hi,
> > is there a space between -x and /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb ?
> > if so, remove it. that's the only thing that looks suspicous...
> 
> There sure was a space. I changed it and did a full reboot so I didn't miss
> restarting anything. No dice. Connections to port 25 still refused. :(

You define QMAILUID, but then you use QMAILDUID. Fix the typo and it
should work.


> > > My startup script: (/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/run)
> > > #!/bin/bash
*   > > > QMAILUID=`id -u qmaild`
> > > NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild`
> > > exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 200
> /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -p -x
*   > > > /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u $QMAILDUID -g $NOFILESGID 0 smtp
> > > /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smptpd 2>&1

-- 
Regards
Peter
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Phone: +1 613 368 4398  Fax: +1 613 564 7739
e-smith, inc. 1500-150 Metcalfe St, Ottawa, ON K2P 1P1 Canada

"If you kill all your unhappy customers, you'll only have happy ones left"

Re: Help with my girlfriend?

[whosyodaddy]

On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Wheres Mybrudda wrote:

> Hello. Is this the right place to come for help with my girlfriend? A friend 
> told me that if I came to the Qinky Mothers After Indigenous Lesbians list 
> then you can tell me what I have to do to win back my South-Asian girlfriend 
> from her qinky mumma.

Wrong list.  You need the POSTFIX list.

Re: Help with my girlfriend?

[Peter van Dijk]

On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 08:33:22PM +, Wheres Mybrudda wrote:
> Hello. Is this the right place to come for help with my girlfriend? A friend 
> told me that if I came to the Qinky Mothers After Indigenous Lesbians list 
> then you can tell me what I have to do to win back my South-Asian girlfriend 
> from her qinky mumma.

You have come to the right place. We can teach you how to devote your
time to much more useful things than your girlfriend (which seems lost
to some scantily clad females anyway), like qmail and other cool
software.

Greetz, Peter
-- 
dataloss networks
'/ignore-ance is bliss' - me

[Linux/x86] dietlibc linked tcpserver

[Felix von Leitner]

I have made available statically linked x86-linux binaries for tcpserver
and tcpclient from ucspi-tcp with my IPv6 patch.  You can download them
from

  http://www.fefe.de/ucspi/x86-linux-ucspi-tcp.tar.bz2

and my gpg sig from

  http://www.fefe.de/ucspi/x86-linux-ucspi-tcp.tar.bz2.sig

Why would you want to use those?  First, these support IPv6, even on
libc5 systems.  Second, the memory footprint is very small.  These lines
are from ps awux.

First: the regular binaries:

qmaild8778  0.0  0.3  1200   476  ?  S   Aug 31   0:01 tcpserver -R -u 30 -g 35 0 
smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd

Second: the new binaries, linked against dietlibc:

leitner   9860  0.0  0.06056  ?  S22:49   0:00 ./tcpserver -R 127.0.0.1 
8000 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd


While these savings are probably not very significant for desktop
machines and servers who have plenty of RAM, they are important for
embedded Linux people trying to build "pop toasters" or for people who
want to run many services on the same machine.  I am working on linking
daemontools against dietlibc (supervise is already working and the
savings are 20k vs. 344k resident.  Stay tuned ;-)

Felix

PS: In case you want to learn more about dietlibc, please go to
  http://www.fefe.de/dietlibc/
In case you want to learn more about my ipv6 ucspi-tcp patch, please
go to
  http://www.fefe.de/ucspi/

RE: Help with my girlfriend?

[Ihnen, David]

Sure, what does the log say?

David


> -Original Message-
> From: Wheres Mybrudda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 1:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Help with my girlfriend?
> 
> 
> Hello. Is this the right place to come for help with my 
> girlfriend? A friend 
> told me that if I came to the Qinky Mothers After Indigenous 
> Lesbians list 
> then you can tell me what I have to do to win back my 
> South-Asian girlfriend 
> from her qinky mumma.
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> Wheres.
> __
> ___
> Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at 
> http://www.hotmail.com.
> 
> Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at 
> http://profiles.msn.com.
> 

Re: connection refused on port 25

[Barley]

> Hi,
> is there a space between -x and /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb ?
> if so, remove it. that's the only thing that looks suspicous...

There sure was a space. I changed it and did a full reboot so I didn't miss
restarting anything. No dice. Connections to port 25 still refused. :(

>
> ;) a
>
> ==
> Alexander Jernejcic
> email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> begin LOVE-LETTER-UND-NIX-DAZUGELERNT.txt.vbs
> I am a Signature, not a Virus!
> end
>
> ==
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Barley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 9:48 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: connection refused on port 25
> >
> >
> >
> > > hi,
> > > please post your startupscript. seems a to by a typo at the call of
> > tcpserver...
> > >
> >
> > My startup script: (/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/run)
> > #!/bin/bash
> > QMAILUID=`id -u qmaild`
> > NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild`
> > exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 200
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -p -x
> > /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u $QMAILDUID -g $NOFILESGID 0 smtp
> > /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smptpd 2>&1
> >
> > The exec command is all one line
> > Thanks so much for your help!
> >
> > Gregg
> >
> >
> > > ;) a
> > >
> > > ==
> > > Alexander Jernejcic
> > > email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > begin LOVE-LETTER-UND-NIX-DAZUGELERNT.txt.vbs
> > > I am a Signature, not a Virus!
> > > end
> > >
> > > ==
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Barley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 8:29 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: connection refused on port 25
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > qmail is refusing my connection on port 25. qmail-smtpd seems to be
up
> > and
> > > > running fine. I catted the most recent file in the log directory
(not
> > sure
> > > > how you're supposed to use multilog) and it had a ton of lines
saying:
> > > >
> > > > tcpserver: fatal: no IP address for 510
> > > >
> > > > over and over and over. Does this have anything to do with my
failure to
> > > > connect on port 25? How can I track down why qmail is refusing
> > connections?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks a lot for your help so far. The qmail community is obviously
> > > > well-informed and knowledgable, which after working with MTA's for a
> > while I
> > > > can see is tough stuff to master. I look forward to poking around my
> > > > (working ;) qmail setup and learning more.
> > > >
> > > > Gregg
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

RE: Quota Problems

[Scott Sanders]

Okay I was a bit confused on my problem but here it is plain and simple.

I am using qmail + ldap for authentication.  I have a MailSizeDir File in
each directory that the users mail gets dumped into.  It keeps a running
list of all the mail in the directory and size.  Problem is after a user
reads mail it does not elminate the file, I need it to do that after they
read mail, my current script just deletes the file every 50 minutes, in
effect eliminating the quota ability. Anyone able to help with this would be
very apperciated?

Scott Sanders

-Original Message-
From: Chris Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:03 PM
To: Scott Sanders
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Quota Problems

On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 02:37:52PM -0500, Scott Sanders wrote:
> Qmail is not checking mailbox size correctly and I am having to cat all my
> user(around 9000) mailboxes and grep in the bytes and so forth, anyone
have
> this problem or know of a fix for it?

qmail doesn't pay any attention to mailbox sizes; there's not a problem and
there's nothing to fix. How are you implementing quotas?

Chris

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RE: connection refused on port 25

[Alexander Jernejcic]

Hi,
is there a space between -x and /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb ?
if so, remove it. that's the only thing that looks suspicous...

;) a  

==
Alexander Jernejcic  
email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

begin LOVE-LETTER-UND-NIX-DAZUGELERNT.txt.vbs
I am a Signature, not a Virus!
end

==

> -Original Message-
> From: Barley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 9:48 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: connection refused on port 25
> 
> 
> 
> > hi,
> > please post your startupscript. seems a to by a typo at the call of
> tcpserver...
> >
> 
> My startup script: (/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/run)
> #!/bin/bash
> QMAILUID=`id -u qmaild`
> NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild`
> exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 200 /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -p -x
> /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u $QMAILDUID -g $NOFILESGID 0 smtp
> /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smptpd 2>&1
> 
> The exec command is all one line
> Thanks so much for your help!
> 
> Gregg
> 
> 
> > ;) a
> >
> > ==
> > Alexander Jernejcic
> > email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > begin LOVE-LETTER-UND-NIX-DAZUGELERNT.txt.vbs
> > I am a Signature, not a Virus!
> > end
> >
> > ==
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Barley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 8:29 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: connection refused on port 25
> > >
> > >
> > > qmail is refusing my connection on port 25. qmail-smtpd seems to be up
> and
> > > running fine. I catted the most recent file in the log directory (not
> sure
> > > how you're supposed to use multilog) and it had a ton of lines saying:
> > >
> > > tcpserver: fatal: no IP address for 510
> > >
> > > over and over and over. Does this have anything to do with my failure to
> > > connect on port 25? How can I track down why qmail is refusing
> connections?
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot for your help so far. The qmail community is obviously
> > > well-informed and knowledgable, which after working with MTA's for a
> while I
> > > can see is tough stuff to master. I look forward to poking around my
> > > (working ;) qmail setup and learning more.
> > >
> > > Gregg
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
> 

Re: Clustering Qmail

[markd]

On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 06:57:27AM +1000, Brett Randall wrote:
> > > None as such..
> >
> > Except that the concepts and some details have been discussed on this list
> > quite a few times - often by people who have implemented such schemes.
> Must have had a subject with no meaning and so hello to the good old
> 'delete' key :P

Hmm. The archive search shows these as the first 20 of 187 entries,
how much meaning do you need in a subject?

1.Re: Large Mail Cluster Questions
2.Re: Large Mail Cluster Questions
3.Re: Qmail on a linux cluster
4.Large Mail Cluster Questions
5.RE: Qmail on a linux cluster
6.Re: Large Mail Cluster Questions
7.Re: Qmail on a linux cluster
8.Re: Large Mail Cluster Questions
9.Re: Qmail on a linux cluster
   10.Qmail on a linux cluster
   11.RE: Qmail on a linux cluster
   12.Re: Qmail on a linux cluster
   13.Cluster Awareness of qmail
   14.Re: Cluster Awareness of qmail
   15.Re: Cluster Awareness of qmail
   16.Re: Server cluster
   17.Re: Server cluster
   18.Re: Server cluster
   19.Re: Server cluster
   20.Re: Server cluster


Regards.

Re: Clustering Qmail

[Andy Bradford]

On Thu, 05 Oct 2000 11:08:38 EDT, Dave Sill wrote:

> Yeah, AFS *looks* good on paper... Know anyone who's actually using
> it? What do they think of it?

What about Coda?  Is it a viable solution for a distributed filesystem? 
 It has been in development since 1987 if I remember correctly...  You 
would think that is enough time to mature. :-)

Andy

Re: Clustering Qmail

[Rob Hines Jr.]

I had this done once, and I used my mailservers used multiple NICs, IP
aliasing, and NAT to deliver mail from a real IP mail server, to a Private IP
fileserver mounted via NFS. Not really any security issues that I found, since
the mail servers only have to run NFS client, and the fileserver is
inaccessible from the internet.

It worked out all right.

Rob

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 08:11:22PM +1000, Brett Randall wrote:
> > None as such..
>
> Except that the concepts and some details have been discussed on this list
> quite a few times - often by people who have implemented such schemes.
>
> The archives are your friend.
>
> > - Look into a NFS/NIS combination (I use this for a distributed e-mail
>
> hopefully via secured means - especially NIS.
>
> Regards.

--
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System Administrator

Phone:  (317)469-4535
Fax:  (317)469-4508
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Re: Quota Problems

[Chris Johnson]

On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 02:37:52PM -0500, Scott Sanders wrote:
> Qmail is not checking mailbox size correctly and I am having to cat all my
> user(around 9000) mailboxes and grep in the bytes and so forth, anyone have
> this problem or know of a fix for it?

qmail doesn't pay any attention to mailbox sizes; there's not a problem and
there's nothing to fix. How are you implementing quotas?

Chris

Re: Quota Problems

[Charles Cazabon]

Scott Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Qmail is not checking mailbox size correctly and I am having to cat all my
> user(around 9000) mailboxes and grep in the bytes and so forth, anyone have
> this problem or know of a fix for it?

qmail doesn't do its own quotas.  For normal/shell users, use your system's
per-user file quota mechanism.  This may be easier for you if you do not
use /var/spool/mail mail storage, but instead put their Maildirs or mboxes
in their home directories.

The only size checks that qmail does are those involving DATABYTES; see
the man page for qmail-control for more.

Charles
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RE: Clustering Qmail

[Brett Randall]

> > None as such..
>
> Except that the concepts and some details have been discussed on this list
> quite a few times - often by people who have implemented such schemes.
Must have had a subject with no meaning and so hello to the good old
'delete' key :P

> > - Look into a NFS/NIS combination (I use this for a distributed e-mail
>
> hopefully via secured means - especially NIS.
Yeah...I am away of the risks, but a few ACLs and a little Kerberos or
similar go a long way...

/BR

Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/

Quota Problems

[Scott Sanders]

Qmail is not checking mailbox size correctly and I am having to cat all my
user(around 9000) mailboxes and grep in the bytes and so forth, anyone have
this problem or know of a fix for it?

log file for checkpasswd

[Patrick Liechty]

Does checkpasswd have a log file?  What is the 
default location if it does?
 
Patrick Liechty

Re: OT: who cares? (was: Volunteers for a multilog patch?)

[Peter van Dijk]

On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 08:55:11PM +0200, Johan Almqvist wrote:
> > What about getting a sense of humor?  Jeez.
> 
> Where do the sell those? I'd like a bunch for some people around me...

You seem to be well-supplied yourself, tho :)

Greetz, Peter
-- 
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'/ignore-ance is bliss' - me

Re: qmail not recieving mail

[Charles Cazabon]

Barley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Could someone
> give me a checklist of how to track how far the mail makes it and where it
> goes wrong?

First off, read Dave Sill's excellent "Life with qmail".  You can find 
pointers to it from www.qmail.org -- check out some other documenation while
you're there.  Then read the manpage for qmail-log.  Then start examining
your qmail-smtpd and qmail logs.

Charles
-- 
---
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Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions.
---

Re: connection refused on port 25

[Peter Samuel]

Warning. This message contains nothing humourous or off topic at all!

On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Barley wrote:

> qmail is refusing my connection on port 25. qmail-smtpd seems to be up and
> running fine. I catted the most recent file in the log directory (not sure
> how you're supposed to use multilog) and it had a ton of lines saying:
> 
> tcpserver: fatal: no IP address for 510

Something is screwed with the way you're starting qmail-smtpd from
tcpserver. tcpserver is thinking that the IP address is 510. My guess
is that 510 is the user id or group id of qmaild and you have forgotten
to put a -u or -g in front of 510.

Post your tcpserver startup script if you can't figure out where you
went wrong from my diagnosis.

> 
> over and over and over. Does this have anything to do with my failure to
> connect on port 25? How can I track down why qmail is refusing connections?
> 
> Thanks a lot for your help so far. The qmail community is obviously
> well-informed and knowledgable, which after working with MTA's for a while I
> can see is tough stuff to master. I look forward to poking around my
> (working ;) qmail setup and learning more.

But we're not funny!

-- 
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Peter
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RE: connection refused on port 25

[Alexander Jernejcic]

hi,
please post your startupscript. seems a to by a typo at the call of tcpserver...

;) a

==
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email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

begin LOVE-LETTER-UND-NIX-DAZUGELERNT.txt.vbs
I am a Signature, not a Virus!
end

==

> -Original Message-
> From: Barley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 8:29 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: connection refused on port 25
> 
> 
> qmail is refusing my connection on port 25. qmail-smtpd seems to be up and
> running fine. I catted the most recent file in the log directory (not sure
> how you're supposed to use multilog) and it had a ton of lines saying:
> 
> tcpserver: fatal: no IP address for 510
> 
> over and over and over. Does this have anything to do with my failure to
> connect on port 25? How can I track down why qmail is refusing connections?
> 
> Thanks a lot for your help so far. The qmail community is obviously
> well-informed and knowledgable, which after working with MTA's for a while I
> can see is tough stuff to master. I look forward to poking around my
> (working ;) qmail setup and learning more.
> 
> Gregg
> 
> 

Re: connection refused on port 25

[Hops]

"Barley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>qmail is refusing my connection on port 25. qmail-smtpd seems to be up and
>running fine. I catted the most recent file in the log directory (not sure
>how you're supposed to use multilog) and it had a ton of lines saying:

See the multilog web page[1]. You want to look at "current".

>tcpserver: fatal: no IP address for 510

Sounds like your tcpserver command line isn't right. (Perhaps it's in
/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/run). What does it look like?

>over and over and over. Does this have anything to do with my failure to
>connect on port 25?

Yes.

> How can I track down why qmail is refusing connections?

It's refusing them because tcpserver is misconfigured.


-Dave

Footnotes: 
[1]  http://cr.yp.to/daemontools/multilog.html

Re: OT: who cares? (was: Volunteers for a multilog patch?)

[Johan Almqvist]

> What about getting a sense of humor?  Jeez.

Where do the sell those? I'd like a bunch for some people around me...

-Johan
-- 
Johan Almqvist

connection refused on port 25

[Barley]

qmail is refusing my connection on port 25. qmail-smtpd seems to be up and
running fine. I catted the most recent file in the log directory (not sure
how you're supposed to use multilog) and it had a ton of lines saying:

tcpserver: fatal: no IP address for 510

over and over and over. Does this have anything to do with my failure to
connect on port 25? How can I track down why qmail is refusing connections?

Thanks a lot for your help so far. The qmail community is obviously
well-informed and knowledgable, which after working with MTA's for a while I
can see is tough stuff to master. I look forward to poking around my
(working ;) qmail setup and learning more.

Gregg

Re: OT Country differences (was: Volunteers for a multilog patch?)

[David Dyer-Bennet]

Kris Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 5 October 2000 at 11:58:57 -0500

 > And guess which countries will be important when the U.S., China, and Russia
 > all go to war and wipe each other out? :)

Um, ones on some other planet?
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replacing a working qmail box

[martin langhoff]

hi,

I'm about to replace a qmail box. I'm trying to plan a suitable
strategy to replace the box in the least time, with the least hassles. A
new box is ready, with the same software installed, except for sone
security critical patches. 

A good deal of qmail related things are running there. See:

Software:
- qmail (as per qmail+patches v14 by Bruce Guenter)
- svscan, supervise and friends of daemontools in general
- vmailmgr
- pop3d
- ezmlm with idx
- Courier-IMAP daemon

Config/Data:
- a few dozens of VDomains
- 4 mailing lists managed by ezmlm
- no users are (yet) using the IMAP services
- The box doesn't relay for anyone, (except for mailing lists, and
these are announce lists that can afford to loose their queue) so I
don't think I'll have problems waiting for the queue to empty. It's
usually empty. 

Now, the strategy:
a - Get the queue to empty (how do I keep qmtpd from being called from
supervise)
b - Check the old box UIDs for the users attached to each vdomain, and
create users on the new box with the same login/UID.
c - tar and copy the homedir of these users to the new box
d - untar keeping ownerships and permissions
e - will this transfer my ezmlm-idz mailing lists safely? I hope so!
f - copy /var/qmail/control and /var/qmail/alias to the new box
g - copy the dns setttings to the new box
h - disconnect the old box, give the new box the old IP, `shutdown -r `
to see that it all comes up nicely. 
i - go home early for once in my debugging life!

Besides i, do you find anything wrong/misplaced with this scenario? If
it works, we could actually build an appendix to LWQ!


martin

Re: OT: who cares? (was: Volunteers for a multilog patch?)

[Adam McKenna]

On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 08:09:58PM +0200, Martin Jespersen wrote:
> What about taking this to a private forum?

What about getting a sense of humor?  Jeez.

--Adam

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Re: OT: who cares? (was: Volunteers for a multilog patch?)

[Dave Sill]

Martin Jespersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>What about taking this to a private forum?

What about stirring the coals on a dead thread?

What about using the "delete" button or "d" key?

The qmail list isn't just a qmail hotline, it's an on-line community
of people interested in qmail. If some of us want to talk about other
topics now and then, we will. Feel free not to participate in such
discussions.

-Dave

Re: Authentication error using qmail-pop3d

[Patrick Liechty]

I just tried to get my mail again.  I got the 
error.  I went and checked in /var/log/maillog and found 0 entries to do 
with my authentication.
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ihnen, 
  David 
  To: 'Patrick Liechty' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 11:56 
  AM
  Subject: RE: Authentication error using 
  qmail-pop3d
  
  What 
  does the log file say?
  
-Original Message-From: Patrick Liechty 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 
10:55 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
Authentication error using qmail-pop3d
I setup qmail-pop3d but based on the 
documentation at http://www.whirlycott.com/phil/pop3.html
 
It try to retrieve my mail and I get an 
authentication error.  I would appreciate any help.
 
Patrick 
Liechty

OT: who cares? (was: Volunteers for a multilog patch?)

[Martin Jespersen]

What about taking this to a private forum?

/Martin

Peter Samuel wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Dave Sill wrote:
> 
> > Justin Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >can someone please tell me what Quarter of nine means, is it a quarter til,
> > >quarter past?
> >
> > It means 8:45.
> >
> > >Oh, and US citizens are about as arrogant as the French
> >
> > As if *that's* possible. :-)
> 
> Ah, something we can all agree on. We all hate the French :)
> 
> --
> Regards
> Peter
> --
> Peter Samuel[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.e-smith.org (development)http://www.e-smith.com (corporate)
> Phone: +1 613 368 4398  Fax: +1 613 564 7739
> e-smith, inc. 1500-150 Metcalfe St, Ottawa, ON K2P 1P1 Canada
> 
> "If you kill all your unhappy customers, you'll only have happy ones left"

qmail not recieving mail

[Barley]

Hi all,

Im totally new to qmail, so please forgive my lack of knowledge. I seem to
have pop3 set up on my server now. I can log in via telnet etc. The thing
is, it seems qmail is not recieving incoming mail properly. Could someone
give me a checklist of how to track how far the mail makes it and where it
goes wrong?

In other words, I want to know if it makes it to the server and then if
qmail handles it correctly or where the problem may be. Thanks in advance.

Gregg

RE: Authentication error using qmail-pop3d

[Ihnen, David]

What 
does the log file say?

  -Original Message-From: Patrick Liechty 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 
  10:55 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Authentication 
  error using qmail-pop3d
  I setup qmail-pop3d but based on the 
  documentation at http://www.whirlycott.com/phil/pop3.html
   
  It try to retrieve my mail and I get an 
  authentication error.  I would appreciate any help.
   
  Patrick 
Liechty

Authentication error using qmail-pop3d

[Patrick Liechty]

I setup qmail-pop3d but based on the documentation 
at http://www.whirlycott.com/phil/pop3.html
 
It try to retrieve my mail and I get an 
authentication error.  I would appreciate any help.
 
Patrick Liechty

Re: (No Subject)

[Adam McKenna]

Well, this should be entertaining.

--Adam

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