Re: Mass mbox to Maildir conversion
On Mon, 09 Oct 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What did you think of mbox to Maildir conversion tools that can be found on www.qmail.org? I found them to be very basic and assuming that a given user would only have one mbox file. I have users that have up to 100 separate mbox files that are imap folders, not including their /var/spool/mail/username inbox file. I tried one of the scripts on an inbox and it seemed to work ok. But no matter what I did I couldn't seem to get it to accept a wildcard, ie convert all files in one directory into a users maildir. I think I will have to devote some serious time to this issue, since I want to acheive the following: 1. Preserve existing imap folders and keep the same messages in them, the imap folder structure will need to be for Courier 1.1. 2. Preserve the read and unread flags for all messages. 3. Create the courierimapsubscribed, courierimapuiddb, and maildir files in the appropriate places with the correct values in them. Basically, the entire migration should be totally transparent to the end users with zero downtime. I will just change the existing mail server record in the DNS to point to the new server when I'm finished. Regards, Mike
RE: qmail-ldap-help
I am using 2.0.4
1)I altered the default to mail and tried to start the ldap server,It does
not give any errors but it does start either(not in pid list)
2)Also it gives this error now "No objectClass "top" defined in schema"
I did really add real data into the database(using the samples in the ldap
readme).But i ran into truble after i startted using the qmail-ldap
samples.I believe the sample file on the site are supposed to run no matter
what
I am ok with security for now.I will work it out later
I am sorry for newbie questions But i am a newbie!!
Suresh
-Original Message-
From: Alexander Jernejcic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 8:18 PM
To: suresh
Subject: RE: qmail-ldap-help
hi,
what is your version of openldap? for this kind of config and
objectdefinition it has to be something below 2.0.
the index line tells openldap what attributes should indexes be maintained
for. try to alter the default index to mail or just
comment it out (put # in front of the line)...
in slapd.oc.conf you define the objectclasses with its attribute. imho one
should add a new objectclass to slapd.ac.conf too.
some additional hints:
turn schemacheck off.
you should add (with slapadd) a o= object:
content of file base.ldiff:
o=Internet Pipeline, c=CH
objectclass: organization
#ldapadd -D "cn=root, o=Internet Pipeline, c=CH" -W base.ldif
try to set up your ldap server with "real" data.
e.g.: set c to your real country code, and o to your real company
(slapd.conf and ldap.conf).
your ldap-database will be created in /var/qmail/users
for some kind of security: block the ldap ports for external access
(firewalling)
sorry for the unstructured answer, was just a kind of brainstorming..
;) a
==
Alexander Jernejcic
email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
begin LOVE-LETTER-UND-NIX-DAZUGELERNT.txt.vbs
I am a Signature, not a Virus!
end
==
-Original Message-
From: suresh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 1:45 PM
To: Alexander. Jernejcic@Chello. At
Subject: RE: qmail-ldap-help
Hi
I hope yu can help me.I am using these example files,but i cant get the
slapd started-gives error-
/usr/local/etc/openldap/slapd.conf: line 32: no indexes selected
I am not a unix person .I started working on Sun just a month back.I tried
going through the readmes ,i could not get much out of them
Suresh
EXAMPLE QLDAP LDIF FILE:
dn: cn=Andre Oppermann, o=Internet Pipeline, c=CH
cn: Andre Oppermann
sn: Oppermann
objectClass: top
objectClass: person
objectClass: inetOrgPerson
objectClass: qmailUser
mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailHost: opi.flirtbox.ch
mailMessageStore: /usr/home/opi/Maildir/
mailQuota: 100S,100C
qmailUID: 1001
qmailGID: 1001
uid: opi
userPassword: {MD5}b28a87511da157f147ed4766b0474a8a
EXAMPLE SLAPD.CONF FILE:
include /usr/local/etc/ldap/slapd.at.conf
include /usr/local/etc/ldap/slapd.oc.conf
schemacheck on
#referral ldap://ldap.itd.umich.edu
###
# ldbm database definitions
###
databaseldbm
suffix "o=Internet Pipeline, c=CH"
directory /var/qmail/users
rootdn "cn=root, o=Internet Pipeline, c=CH"
rootpw secret
index mail,mailAlternateAddress,uid
index default none
ADD THIS SCHEMA TO SLAPD.OC.CONF
objectclass qmailUser
requires
objectclass,
mail,
uid
allows
mailMessageStore,
homeDirectory,
userPassword,
mailAlternateAddress,
qmailUID,
qmailGID,
mailQuota,
mailHost,
mailForwardingAddress,
deliveryProgramPath,
qmailDotMode,
deliveryMode,
mailReplyText,
accountStatus
Re: How to set this configuration?
3. I am using vpopmail to have all my users virtual. With it you vcan easily setup a lot of domains on one mashine, it has web administration tool - look on www.inter7.com Milen Petrinski Hello to all, please help me, i'm don't know how to make following configuration on my system, please consult me: 1. All UNDELIVERED mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED] route to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. User1 have e-mail box on domain2.ru ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), but not have e-mail box in domain3.ru (both domain setup in one machine (and one qmail)). May be use virtual domain? How? Write example plz. 3. How to set 2 and more domains with different lists of users? I am use qmail and mysql patch.
OT: Gnus - Message from a fan
Hello one and all I have virtually made a complete transition to Gnus and love it...Thanks to Mr Robin Scary Socha for abusing the crap out of me and forcing me to get a new mail client! May I encourage people who have about 10 hours spare over a week (OK I know it sounds crazy, but thats like less than 2 hours a day) to look at Robin's gnus tutorial (http://socha.net/Gnus/), take a quick glance at the Gnus *technical reference* (also known as a manual, http://www.gnus.org/), try out a few .gnus configurations, learn Emacs or XEmacs (C-h t for the tutorial) basics, and experiment? It REALLY is very efficient compared with many other clients...Takes a few seconds to get used to its style, and a few more to remember the keyboard shortcuts that make it ever so easy to use, but mail and newsgroups have never been so nice and easy to browse, view, reply to, all nicely, conveniently and with great etiquette. It isn't as hard to set up as everyone makes out, it just takes time for trial-and-error. Unless you've got anything to say that will help the list, please just reply to me personally as I've had enough of cloggin up this list with OT replies :) Thanks! -- /BR Manager InterPlanetary Solutions http://ipsware.com/
different port number
Just to say: "thank you" to the list and to Chris, Brian and Andy. Bye and...have a nice day! Ciao, Marco
Re: different port numbers
Qmail don't use any of this port (correct me if I wrong), but qmail-tcpd do. So u may just put that lines in your startup files: 1. /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u qmailr -g nofiles 0 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 21 | /usr/local/bin/multilog \ t /var/log/smtpd 2. /usr/local/bin/tcpserver 0 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup \ your.host.name /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir And, of course, u must have this port in /etc/servises. Best regards. On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Marco wrote: Hi, I wanted to change the port numbers for the mail service (using qmail), while forwarding it from a firewall to the server: ipmasqadm portfw -a -P tcp -L fw_address 25 -R mailserver_address ipmasqadm portfw -a -P tcp -L fw_address 110 -R mailserver_address Is it possible to install Qmail (and possibly manage it subsequently) so that it can respond to port numbers and ? If so, what should I do? Thank you in advance. Marco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
users on Win NT
I want use only one password for Win NT and for qmail (vpopmail). Ineed some software like checkpassword or vchkpw (in vpopmail), but it must work with samba to check username and password on domain server (Win NT)... Do you have some useful links? Stano.
Re: qmail list reply-to
My un-Gnus client? Well Mr Brooke...this last week has been an eventful one to say the least :P Check out my headers now... I was only joking Mr.Randall :) And speaking of an evil client, what the hell is up with all those blank lines UNDER YOUR FRIGGIN NAME!!! I hit enter a couple of times at the bottom of each email for some reason - but not as many times as your indents would indicate. Maybe Bill Gates feels that at least 6 newlines are required at the bottom of each email :) jason
Re: qmail list reply-to
"Jason Brooke" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Ah... I see :) And we are talking about un-Gnus clients and screwed OS's? :P -- /BR Manager InterPlanetary Solutions http://ipsware.com/
qmail Digest 10 Oct 2000 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 1149
qmail Digest 10 Oct 2000 10:00:01 - Issue 1149 Topics (messages 50188 through 50266): Re: qmail list reply-to 50188 by: Robin S. Socha 50201 by: Russell Nelson 50204 by: Neil Blakey-Milner 50205 by: Vince Vielhaber 50208 by: Brett Randall 50219 by: Chris Garrigues 50224 by: Charles McLagan 50228 by: Vince Vielhaber 50230 by: Austad, Jay 50234 by: Kris Kelley 50244 by: Jason Brooke 50256 by: Brett Randall 50265 by: Jason Brooke 50266 by: Brett Randall How to set this configuration? 50189 by: Michail A.Baikov 50260 by: Milen Petrinski Log file 50190 by: Mark van der Putten 50248 by: Mark van der Putten Re: CST17030532ID - OK so I eat spam (fwd) (fwd) 50191 by: Dave Sill 50216 by: Duane L. Re: spam alarm as result from "help with girlfriend" 50192 by: Don Wright 50198 by: jim 50214 by: Alexander Jernejcic 50217 by: Austad, Jay 50223 by: Peter van Dijk 50237 by: Brett Randall 50241 by: jim Mass mbox to Maildir conversion 50193 by: Mike Jackson 50199 by: Mike Jackson 50207 by: markd.bushwire.net 50258 by: Mike Jackson Re: SPAM is not a big deal if you are getting only SPAM 50194 by: Markus Stumpf Geez... 50195 by: Wheres Mysista 50209 by: markd.bushwire.net 50231 by: Casey Allen Shobe Site down? 50196 by: Nick Lekic 50229 by: Romeo Kienzler 50250 by: Bruno Wolff III ITU-T (Off Topic) 50197 by: Mark Lo 50221 by: Erwin Hoffmann 50226 by: Mark Lo 50233 by: Peter van Dijk 50245 by: Nathan J. Mehl 50255 by: richard.illuin.org different port numbers 50200 by: Marco 50212 by: Andy Bradford 50213 by: Chris Johnson 50220 by: Brian Reichert 50263 by: Aleksey Ovcharenko Re: DJB docs mirrored? 50202 by: Toni Mueller Qmail + netware 50203 by: Jonathan Fanti 50222 by: Erwin Hoffmann how to 50206 by: Gustavo Schroeder 50218 by: Martin Jespersen quotas? 50210 by: st.eforcommerce.com Mrs. Brisby's patch for qmail-smtpd.c for username/password auth 50211 by: Martin Jespersen 50235 by: Kris Kelley 50236 by: Rob Hines Jr. 50251 by: Martin Jespersen 50252 by: Martin Jespersen Re: qmail-ldap-help 50215 by: Alexander Jernejcic 50257 by: suresh 50259 by: suresh cmd5checkpw 0.22 - update 50225 by: Krzysztof Dabrowski Question on Relay Control 50227 by: James Stevens 50239 by: Chris Johnson qmail.org site down? 50232 by: Chris Hardie /var/qmail/alias question 50238 by: Barry Smoke 50240 by: markd.bushwire.net 50246 by: Barry Smoke 50247 by: markd.bushwire.net Re: Help with my girlfriend? 50242 by: Charlie assign and deferring mail. 50243 by: Michael Boyiazis OK Me had enuf of defending self... 50249 by: Wheres Mysista Re: DJB Girlfriend V 1.0 - a solution for all 50253 by: Tracy R Reed Maildir not working 50254 by: Pupeno Re: Gnus - Message from a fan 50261 by: Brett Randall different port number 50262 by: Marco users on Win NT 50264 by: Stano Pa¹ka Administrivia: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To bug my human owner, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To post to the list, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- * Vince Vielhaber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When did Cc change from Carbon Copy to Courtesy Copy? About the same time a carriage return became a line feed. Tell me, Vince, how *did* you manage to implement TCP/IP for that thing? -- Robin S. Socha http://socha.net/ Bruno Wolff III writes: On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 05:33:34PM -0400, Russell Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles McLagan writes: Now, one can trash Microsoft, or Netscape, or whoever makes the MUA, but the bottom line is, this is how they work and this is how 99% of users would use them even if there were a reply-to-recipient choice. So the question is: is there a sensible (or kludgey, hack, yet sufficient) way to cope with it today? No. Reply-to-Recipient is necessary and sufficient. And what if the sender isn't on the list? The list doesn't munge Reply-To, so the sender can set Reply-To: if he wants a reply. That's what Reply-To is for, NOT for discarding and replacement by the list address. -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com | A hate crime makes Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | it illegal to think certain 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1
Re: spam alarm as result from help with girlfriend
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 07:59:51AM +1100, Brett Randall wrote: Just a little addition to this annoyingly drawn-out thread... I haven't received any spam at all since I've joined this list...much impressed considering my past experiences! I am virtually convinced that the spam people are receiving is from other sources...I even replied to this person's thread and am still yet to see any spam. Maybe a bit of a chuckle and a look at what other newsgroups/mailing lists/directory services you are on is in order? Well, the spam came to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and that address is only on the list... -Johan -- Johan Almqvist
Re: assign and deferring mail.
On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 03:08:42PM -0700, Michael Boyiazis wrote: if /var/qmail/alias/assign is being used as a forwarding mechanism, that qmail-getpw is not used and that qmail-local is the delivery agent. qmail-local is always the delivery agent. However, it has two mechanisms it uses to determine how to perform local delivery. It first tries to use the users/assign method. If that's not in use it invokes qmail-getpw to lookup passwd file entries. My question: can i then put in the same hack to qmail-local.c to exit w/ a 111 to defer mail when this control file is present or is it too late? I would think that qmail-local.c is *the* place to put that. Another question: will the assign mechanism be slow w/ 500K+ entries, if need be? The assign mechanism uses a hashed database (in users/cdb) for speedy lookups. It's likely to be a lot quicker than 500K passwd file entries! I'm sure there are large users/assign users on the list who could give some idea of performance at that level -- I'm afraid I can't. james -- James Raftery (JBR54) IE Domain Registry - www.domainregistry.ie - (+353 1) 706 2375 "Managing 4000 customer domains with BIND has been a lot like herding cats." - Mike Batchelor, on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
migrate to qmail
I'm new in this unix stuff, but i got a job that must be dunn I need a help here. I got two server (one is running sendmail(old server) and one is running qmail). I need to move all my user in old server to a new one (running qmail). Can anyone point me what i must do (step by step) Thanks in advance
Where are my Mails ? Please !
Hi Folks ! I´ve installed qmail successfully. I tried to telnet localhost 25 an I send a mail to root, but this didn´t find my mail ;-( Whar do I have to do ? I want to have the mbox format in the ~directories. But my mail don´t appear in this file. Can you tell me why ? Thanke you very much for writing me back. Yours Romeo -- " R o m e o K i e n z l e r " Am Grosshausberg 2-9-3 78120 Furtwangen Fon 0170/6015062 Fax 01805/05255377249 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] "www.ormium.de"
RE: Where are my Mails ? Please !
Title: RE: Where are my Mails ? Please ! What do the logs say? :) -Original Message- From: Romeo Kienzler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 10 October 2000 9:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Where are my Mails ? Please ! Hi Folks ! I´ve installed qmail successfully. I tried to telnet localhost 25 an I send a mail to root, but this didn´t find my mail ;-( Whar do I have to do ? I want to have the mbox format in the ~directories. But my mail don´t appear in this file. Can you tell me why ? Thanke you very much for writing me back. Yours Romeo -- R o m e o K i e n z l e r Am Grosshausberg 2-9-3 78120 Furtwangen Fon 0170/6015062 Fax 01805/05255377249 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ormium.de Please Note: The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. If you have received this email in error, kindly notify the sender. The sender does not guarantee the integrity of this email or any attached files.
Qmail Ezmlm Problem
Hi, I've just set up Qmail and Ezmlm. Qmail seems to be working ok but Ezmlm is being abit wierd. On sending a message to a test mailing list, Qmail excepts it and passes it to the correct list. After this nothing happens? Ezmlm does not forward the mailto thesubsrcibes and the mail simply disappears. I've tested posting from the ezmlm user and that works. Also there is nothing in the qmail logs for after the mail has been delivery to the ezmlm user. Can anyone help? Best regards Rod
Re: Where are my Mails ? Please !
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 01:21:16PM +0200, Romeo Kienzler wrote: Hi Folks ! I´ve installed qmail successfully. I tried to telnet localhost 25 an I send a mail to root, but this didn´t find my mail ;-( Don't send mail to root. Use another user. (qmail will not deliver any mail to the user root as that would require root permissions, which would make the process prone to security issues...). Then, show us the log files of the transaction in question. We may or may not need the contents of users/assign and the output of qmail-showctl. Whar do I have to do ? I want to have the mbox format in the ~directories. But my mail don´t appear in this file. Can you tell me why ? -Johan -- Johan Almqvist
how to make qmail to send remote mail at particular time
Hi everybody, I have Linux system with qmail and vpopmail installed, which connects to the Internet throu ppp. I read in "Life with qmail" that qmail processes every message individualy and I found that remote messages stay in the queue too long, even worse,it is possible a message not to be send at all. How can I make qmail to try to send remote mail when ppp ling comes up? In the mailing list archive I read something about sending the remote mail in maildir and using maildir2smtp when ling comes up, but how to make this to work with vpopmail? Thank you, Milen Petrinski
RE: how to make qmail to send remote mail at particular time
just have your ppp.up script run: /bin/kill -ALRM `/sbin/pidof qmail-send` That way it'll send the ALRM signal to qmail-send (which triggers qmail to process the queue) everytime the link comes up. Tony -Original Message-From: Milen Petrinski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 7:52 AMTo: qmail mailing listSubject: how to make qmail to send remote mail at particular time Hi everybody, I have Linux system with qmail and vpopmail installed, which connects to the Internet throu ppp. I read in "Life with qmail" that qmail processes every message individualy and I found that remote messages stay in the queue too long, even worse,it is possible a message not to be send at all. How can I make qmail to try to send remote mail when ppp ling comes up? In the mailing list archive I read something about sending the remote mail in maildir and using maildir2smtp when ling comes up, but how to make this to work with vpopmail? Thank you, Milen Petrinski
Delayed Local mail
Hi guys how are U, am having problems with my qmail, it has been running stable for the past 8 or so months.However, last week it started perfoming in wierd way. My users on the mail server are not recieving their mails infact the mail queue is growing and the deliveries are taking a long time, yet there is nothing I have changed. What do You think could be the problem and the solution. Thanx Eric. Systems Engineer Infocom Uganda Limited Tel:077409672
users on Win NT
I want use only one password for Win NT and for qmail (vpopmail). Ineed some software like checkpassword or vchkpw (in vpopmail), but it must work with samba to check username and password on domain server (Win NT)... Do you have some useful links? Stano.
Re: users on Win NT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9 Oct 2000, at 7:32, Stano Paka wrote: I want use only one password for Win NT and for qmail (vpopmail). I need some software like checkpassword or vchkpw (in vpopmail), but it must work with samba to check username and password on domain server (Win NT)... Do you have some useful links? Yep. PAMify your checkpassword and use pam_smb or whatever the module for WinNT is called. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.2 -- QDPGP 2.61a Comment: http://community.wow.net/grt/qdpgp.html iQA/AwUBOeMN21MwP8g7qbw/EQIkfwCgxAs4IfDjRvWeBAv4Aw2rdpIVLPgAoKYb M7zv29GeC/t13sP0l6nlUGxP =uJDC -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: how to make qmail to send remote mail at particular time
Sorry, but this didn't work. bash: kill: /sbin/pidof qmail-send: no such pid But I'll try to find a way to make it work, thak you anyway Milen - Original Message - From: Tony Publiski (tonyp) To: 'Milen Petrinski' ; qmail mailing list Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:45 PM Subject: RE: how to make qmail to send remote mail at particular time just have your ppp.up script run: /bin/kill -ALRM `/sbin/pidof qmail-send` That way it'll send the ALRM signal to qmail-send (which triggers qmail to process the queue) everytime the link comes up. Tony -Original Message-From: Milen Petrinski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 7:52 AMTo: qmail mailing listSubject: how to make qmail to send remote mail at particular time Hi everybody, I have Linux system with qmail and vpopmail installed, which connects to the Internet throu ppp. I read in "Life with qmail" that qmail processes every message individualy and I found that remote messages stay in the queue too long, even worse,it is possible a message not to be send at all. How can I make qmail to try to send remote mail when ppp ling comes up? In the mailing list archive I read something about sending the remote mail in maildir and using maildir2smtp when ling comes up, but how to make this to work with vpopmail? Thank you, Milen Petrinski
Re: Mass mbox to Maildir conversion
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 09:59:53AM +0300, Mike Jackson wrote: On Mon, 09 Oct 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What did you think of mbox to Maildir conversion tools that can be found on www.qmail.org? I found them to be very basic and assuming that a given user would only The good thing about their being basic is thaty they pretty easy to change, for example, feed them a mailbox path and an IMAP Maildir path. have one mbox file. I have users that have up to 100 separate mbox files that are imap folders, not including their /var/spool/mail/username inbox file. I tried one of the scripts on an inbox and it seemed to work ok. But no matter what I did I couldn't seem to get it to accept a wildcard, ie convert all files in one directory into a users maildir. The bad news is that you'll have to make these changes yourself to achieve what you want. 1. Preserve existing imap folders and keep the same messages in them, the imap folder structure will need to be for Courier 1.1. 2. Preserve the read and unread flags for all messages. 3. Create the courierimapsubscribed, courierimapuiddb, and maildir files in the appropriate places with the correct values in them. Basically, the entire migration should be totally transparent to the end users with zero downtime. I will just change the existing mail server record in the DNS to point to the new server when I'm finished. I don't know whether you originally intended to use a separate system or not, but you can do the migration on a single system and re-arrange which processes live on which ports at your switchover time. Regards.
RE: spam alarm as result from help with girlfriend
"jim" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's also posted in html on the web. http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/2000/10/threads.html Yes, but e-mail addresses in the header are munged. If you include your e-mail address in your signature, you're on your own. You should probably consider making it less "harvestable", e.g.: dave(at)example.com or dave @ example.com or [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove "nospam." to reply) etc. -Dave
RE: Mass mbox to Maildir conversion
Just for my own 2 cents .. on your Inbox files in /var/spool/mail . couldn't you do something like #! /bin/bash ls /var/spool/mail | while real line ; do mbox2maildirprog $line done now I haven t tested this but I would think this or a variation thereof might work well .. Rick Harris UNIX Administrator Internet Global/Telares [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Carpe Noctem" -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 8:57 AM To: qmail-list Subject: Re: Mass mbox to Maildir conversion On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 09:59:53AM +0300, Mike Jackson wrote: On Mon, 09 Oct 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What did you think of mbox to Maildir conversion tools that can be found on www.qmail.org? I found them to be very basic and assuming that a given user would only The good thing about their being basic is thaty they pretty easy to change, for example, feed them a mailbox path and an IMAP Maildir path. have one mbox file. I have users that have up to 100 separate mbox files that are imap folders, not including their /var/spool/mail/username inbox file. I tried one of the scripts on an inbox and it seemed to work ok. But no matter what I did I couldn't seem to get it to accept a wildcard, ie convert all files in one directory into a users maildir. The bad news is that you'll have to make these changes yourself to achieve what you want. 1. Preserve existing imap folders and keep the same messages in them, the imap folder structure will need to be for Courier 1.1. 2. Preserve the read and unread flags for all messages. 3. Create the courierimapsubscribed, courierimapuiddb, and maildir files in the appropriate places with the correct values in them. Basically, the entire migration should be totally transparent to the end users with zero downtime. I will just change the existing mail server record in the DNS to point to the new server when I'm finished. I don't know whether you originally intended to use a separate system or not, but you can do the migration on a single system and re-arrange which processes live on which ports at your switchover time. Regards.
Re: Delayed Local mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys how are U, am having problems with my qmail, it has been running stable for the past 8 or so months.However, last week it started perfoming in wierd way. My users on the mail server are not recieving their mails infact the mail queue is growing and the deliveries are taking a long time, yet there is nothing I have changed. What Do The Logs Say? (tm) -Dave
Re: Log file
"Mark van der Putten" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my qmail logfiles are filled with only this line over and over again. -- 971017556.174395 warning: trouble opening local/1/18700; will try again later -- Does anyone know what the problem is Yes, your queue is corrupt. Stop qmail, run "make check" and/or one of the queue checkers from www.qmail.org, fix the problem, restart qmail. -Dave
Re: How to set this configuration?
"Michail A.Baikov" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. All UNDELIVERED mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED] route to [EMAIL PROTECTED] control/virtualdomains: domain1.ru:alias-domain1 ~alias/.qmail-domain1-default: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. User1 have e-mail box on domain2.ru ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), but not have e-mail box in domain3.ru (both domain setup in one machine (and one qmail)). If domain2.ru and domain3.ru are both virtual domains, their namespaces are completely independent. May be use virtual domain? How? Write example plz. http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#virtual-domains 3. How to set 2 and more domains with different lists of users? Use virtual domains. -Dave
installing qmail
I am trying to setup qmail but I get stuck: #make setup check ./compile sig_alarm.c In file included from /usr/include/signal.h:300, from sig_alarm.c:1: /usr/include/bits/sigcontext.h:28: asm/sigcontext.h: No such file or directory make: *** [sig_alarm.o] Error 1 thanks Neil
Re: installing qmail
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Neil Grant wrote: I am trying to setup qmail but I get stuck: #make setup check ./compile sig_alarm.c In file included from /usr/include/signal.h:300, from sig_alarm.c:1: /usr/include/bits/sigcontext.h:28: asm/sigcontext.h: No such file or directory make: *** [sig_alarm.o] Error 1 Looks like you don't have the kernel header files installed on your Linux system. On my RedHat 6.2 box rpm -qf /usr/src/linux-2.2.14/include/asm-i386/sigcontext.h kernel-headers-2.2.14-5.0 /usr/include/asm - ../src/linux/include/asm /usr/src/linux - linux-2.2.14 /usr/src/linux-2.2.14/include/asm - asm-i386 Whenever you're reporting compile issues, please include the operating system and release details. Often it's not easy to pick which operating system you're having trouble with just from the missing filename alone. -- Regards Peter -- Peter Samuel[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-smith.org (development)http://www.e-smith.com (corporate) Phone: +1 613 368 4398 Fax: +1 613 564 7739 e-smith, inc. 1500-150 Metcalfe St, Ottawa, ON K2P 1P1 Canada "If you kill all your unhappy customers, you'll only have happy ones left"
svscan: unable to stat qmail: file does not exist
Hello all, After searching through the docs and the mail list archives I still can't find a reference to this problem so here it goes: I'm following the directions from http://www.redhat.com/mirrors/LDP/HOWTO/Qmail-VMailMgr-Courier-imap- HOWTO.html to setup Qmail with all the goodies I need for now. I got the source RPMs and installed those where possible. The qmail users and groups have been created. No paths were changed from the default. when I run '/etc/rc.d/init.d/svscan start' I get the following: svscan: warning: unable to stat qmail: file does not exist and it just keeps displaying on the terminal window where I tried to start the daemon. When I run '/etc/rc.d/init.d/svscan stop' I get the following: Stopping svscan: [ OK ] Stopping service pop3d: stopped. Stopping service pop3d/log: stopped. Stopping service qmail: svok: fatal: unable to chdir to qmail: file does not exist already stopped. Stopping service qmqpd: stopped. Stopping service qmqpd/log: stopped. Stopping service qmtpd: stopped. Stopping service qmtpd/log: stopped. Stopping service smtpd: stopped. Stopping service smtpd/log: stopped. Stopping service vmailmgrd: stopped. Stopping service vmailmgrd/log: stopped. I've looked in /var/run/messages and the only thing that gets logged there is: Oct 10 11:27:00 web svscan: svscan shutdown succeeded My question is twofold: 1. How do I go about creating the file/directory that svscan needs? 2. What package installed svscan so I can go in and fix the bug? (Namely that svscan seems to know it needs a file but doesn't fscking tell me what file it needs!) As always help is greatly appreciated. (I'm under the gun to get this working, our $1000+ commercial package is corrupting mail boxes and we're loosing mail and customer confidence.) Chris
Re: Maildir not working
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 00:37:37 -0300, Pupeno wrote: and of course the mails stays on the queue without being delivered. The directory /home/pupeno/Maildir exists: drwxr-xr-x 2 pupeno pupeno 512 Oct 9 21:19 Maildir/ How did you create the Maildir? Did you use maildirmake? If not, you probably should because it will create the rest of the directories as well as set the proper permissions in one fell swoop. My guess is that your permissions are wrong and that you don't have the subdirectories setup in the Maildir. Andy
Re: Where are my Mails ? Please !
Don't send mail to root. Use another user. (qmail will not deliver any mail to the user root as that would require root permissions, which would make the process prone to security issues...). Then, show us the log files of the transaction in question. We may or may not need the contents of users/assign and the output of qmail-showctl. Actually, qmail will accept mail bound for root, it just won't deliver it to root's home directory. Odds are it's in the mbox for the alias user. Check there. ---Kris Kelley
Re: Delayed Local mail
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:46:05 GMT, wrote: Hi guys how are U, am having problems with my qmail, it has been running stable for the past 8 or so months.However, last week it started perfoming in wierd way. My users on the mail server are not recieving their mails infact the mail queue is growing and the deliveries are taking a long time, yet there is nothing I have changed. Without more information from you it is difficult to say what is happening. Do the email always get delivered after a certain amount of time? How many users are you talking about? Maybe you should consider raising your concurrencylocal. Finally, you might want to check that the trigger file is present and has the proper permissions. Have a look at: http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#trigger If this doesn't get you going then you will need to provide more information (like someone already said, "What do the logs say?") Andy
Re: qmail list reply-to
Charles McLagan writes: Let's consider the subject dead, since the replies I'm getting are ones that generally fall into the 'religious' domain and not ones that actually address the problem I'm trying to solve, You can't solve the problem as you posed it. That's why the answers you're getting are not "helpful". Accept that the problem you are trying to solve has no solution you find acceptable, and move on. -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com | A hate crime makes Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | it illegal to think certain 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | thoughts. The crime is Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | itself already a crime.
Quota Issues
I use Qmail-ldap and users dont have a directory of their own except for a /var/qmail/*username*, I was wondering what method I should use to do mailbox quota. Scott Sanders
Re: Volunteers for a multilog patch?
Last week there was much discussion (some of it even on topic :) about
making multilog rotate files on receipt of a signal.
Here's my very simple patch to make multilog rotate its current file
on receipt of SIGHUP. I have tested it under RedHat Linux 6.2 ONLY.
However, as I have used Dan's coding style (all 2 lines of it) it
should work under any systems on which multilog currently works.
My tests were fairly minimal - I hammered multilog as fast as I could
and sent it a SIGHUP. I then checked to see if it lost any data
between rotations - it didn't.
It obviously needs field testing, but I think it will allow us to
rotate based on time. All we need is a cron job to send the SIGHUP at
the appropriate time.
If you use this, please let me know how it goes. If I get positive
feedback (or no feedback at all) I'll release it in the same manner as
my tai64nunix package - ie a stripped down daemontools with only enough
to build the new multilog. This should comply with Dan's licensing
rules.
--
Regards
Peter
--
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http://www.e-smith.org (development)http://www.e-smith.com (corporate)
Phone: +1 613 368 4398 Fax: +1 613 564 7739
e-smith, inc. 1500-150 Metcalfe St, Ottawa, ON K2P 1P1 Canada
"If you kill all your unhappy customers, you'll only have happy ones left"
--- multilog.c.orig Mon Mar 6 00:21:09 2000
+++ multilog.c Tue Oct 10 12:29:42 2000
@@ -243,6 +243,11 @@
}
}
+void rotate(void)
+{
+ fullcurrent(c);
+}
+
int c_write(int pos,char *buf,int len)
{
struct cyclog *d;
@@ -561,6 +566,7 @@
coe(fdstartdir);
sig_catch(sig_term,exitasap);
+ sig_catch(sig_hangup,rotate);
++argv;
f_init(argv);
Re: svscan: unable to stat qmail: file does not exist
Chris Cioffi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when I run '/etc/rc.d/init.d/svscan start' I get the following: svscan: warning: unable to stat qmail: file does not exist The output of "sh -x /etc/rc.d/init.d/svscan start" would be helpful, but I'd guess that you've got a link in your services directory (which could be /services) called "qmail" that points to the wrong place. I have no idea what the right place is, or which of the packages or HOWTO's should have set this up. 1. How do I go about creating the file/directory that svscan needs? Good question. 2. What package installed svscan so I can go in and fix the bug? svscan is part of daemontools. (Namely that svscan seems to know it needs a file but doesn't fscking tell me what file it needs!) It needs "qmail" to point to a directory containing the appropriate "run" script, among other things. As always help is greatly appreciated. (I'm under the gun to get this working, our $1000+ commercial package is corrupting mail boxes and we're loosing mail and customer confidence.) You're installing an MTA you know nothing about on a production system, and you expect that to raise customer confidence? Wasn't that a Dilbert strip? -Dave
Re: qmail list reply-to
On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 04:30:24PM -0400, Charles McLagan wrote: Because, just like with this email, I hit "reply all" and Microsoft Outlook puts your address and the list address into the To: field. Netscape puts your address in To: and the list in Cc: - same problem. And it's annoying to get duplicate messages Now, one can trash Microsoft, or Netscape, or whoever makes the MUA, but the bottom line is, this is how they work and this is how 99% of users would use them even if there were a reply-to-recipient choice. So the question is: is there a sensible (or kludgey, hack, yet sufficient) way to cope with it today? Not using microshaft brokenware. Use a real MUA, for example, Mutt, which you tell what mailing lists you subscribe to, and then use the List-Reply-To (L) when replying. It also generates Mail-Followup-To headers for the lists you're subscribed to (and even lists you're not subscribed to, if you tell Mutt about them.) --Adam -- Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] | "No matter how much it changes, http://flounder.net/publickey.html | technology's just a bunch of wires GPG: 17A4 11F7 5E7E C2E7 08AA| connected to a bunch of other wires." 38B0 05D0 8BF7 2C6D 110A| Joe Rogan, _NewsRadio_ 1:53pm up 122 days, 11:08, 11 users, load average: 0.08, 0.05, 0.01
RE: qmail.org site down?
hi, now qmail.org seems to be online again - but you may use one of its mirrors. e.g.: http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/infosys/mail/qmail/www.qmail.org/top.html ;) a == Alexander Jernejcic email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] begin LOVE-LETTER-UND-NIX-DAZUGELERNT.txt.vbs I am a Signature, not a Virus! end == -Original Message- From: Chris Hardie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 10:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: qmail.org site down? It's quite possible that I missed something, but: When I visit http://www.qmail.org, I am redirected to http://www.qmail.org/vbn/unreachable.vbn and get a message saying "Welcome to Elastic Networks. Sorry the file that you have requested is not reachable from this side of the network..." Sometimes I can't get to the site at all. Am I delerious? Did someone pee in my DNS stream? Anyone else having this problem? (Sorry for the relatively-insignificant-meta-nature of this message.) Chris -- Chris Hardie - - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.summersault.com/chris/ --
Re: Qmail Ezmlm Problem
ROD wrote: On sending a message to a test mailing list, Qmail excepts it and passes it to the correct list. After this nothing happens? Ezmlm does not forward the mail to the subsrcibes and the mail simply disappears. I've tested posting from the ezmlm user and that works. Also there is nothing in the qmail logs for after the mail has been delivery to the ezmlm user. You probably have moderation turned on but nobody on your list of moderators. you may check this by using 'ezmlm-list listdir/mod' -- Jamie Heilman http://audible.transient.net/~jamie/ "I was in love once -- a Sinclair ZX-81. People said, "No, Holly, she's not for you." She was cheap, she was stupid and she wouldn't load -- well, not for me, anyway." -Holly
Re: users on Win NT
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 10:36:29AM +0200, Stano Pa?ka wrote: I want use only one password for Win NT and for qmail (vpopmail). I need some software like checkpassword or vchkpw (in vpopmail), but it must work with samba to check username and password on domain server (Win NT)... Do you have some useful links? Here you go. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1565923472/o/qid=971202185/sr=8-1/ref=aps_sr_b_1_3/102-2280386-2884102 --Adam -- Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] | "No matter how much it changes, http://flounder.net/publickey.html | technology's just a bunch of wires GPG: 17A4 11F7 5E7E C2E7 08AA| connected to a bunch of other wires." 38B0 05D0 8BF7 2C6D 110A| Joe Rogan, _NewsRadio_ 2:22pm up 122 days, 11:38, 11 users, load average: 0.05, 0.04, 0.01
Redhat 7
Hi, Should I run qmail under Redhat Linux 7 or Redhat Linux 6.2?? Thank you for your suggestion, Mark
Re: Redhat 7
On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 02:20:22AM +0800, Mark Lo wrote: # Hi, # # Should I run qmail under Redhat Linux 7 or Redhat Linux 6.2?? # # Thank you for your suggestion, Debian -- Justin Bell
Re: Redhat 7
No. On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 02:20:22AM +0800, Mark Lo wrote: Hi, Should I run qmail under Redhat Linux 7 or Redhat Linux 6.2?? Thank you for your suggestion, Mark
RE: assign and deferring mail.
On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 03:08:42PM -0700, Michael Boyiazis wrote: if /var/qmail/alias/assign is being used as a forwarding mechanism, that qmail-getpw is not used and that qmail-local is the delivery agent. qmail-local is always the delivery agent. However, it has two mechanisms it uses to determine how to perform local delivery. It first tries to use the users/assign method. If that's not in use it invokes qmail-getpw to lookup passwd file entries. actually it appears that qmail-lspawn is the one that decides which of the qmail-local or qmail-getpw to call. so i guess i could patch that and remove it from qmail-getpw or put it in qmail-local also. Another question: will the assign mechanism be slow w/ 500K+ entries, if need be? The assign mechanism uses a hashed database (in users/cdb) for speedy lookups. It's likely to be a lot quicker than 500K passwd file entries! I'm sure there are large users/assign users on the list who could give some idea of performance at that level -- I'm afraid I can't. i will give it a go. i just noticed the files work across platforms. (sun/linux/bsd). that'll save me a few seconds per day passing tcpserver cdb and assign/cdb files around.8^) -- Michael Boyiazis Mail Architect, NetZero, Inc.
Re: Redhat 7
Should I run qmail under Redhat Linux 7 or Redhat Linux 6.2?? Thank you for your suggestion, I have one box that I recently moved from RH6.2 to 7.0. There were a few porting issues that I had to work through. Nothing directly related to qmail. Some of my scripts for monitoring the system failed, mostly because of changes to the 'ps' command options. I also had an odd problem with a suid program that was just a shell around qmail-qstat. It seems that be the time the qmail-qstat script got executed the effective UID had reverted to the real UID. I had to basically recode qmail-qstat in 'c' to instead. Minor annoyances. I can't say I have noticed any differences in performance. Its nice to have ssh and some other tools installed from the get go. The only things I had too install after the initial install was my own stuff and qmail.
Qmail Tshirts
For what it's worth, cafepress.com now offers four new products which I have made available with the qmail designs. They are: an ash gray tshirt, a sweat shirt, a long sleeve tshirt and a "Baby Doll" tshirt. http://vern.com/tshirts/qmail/ Cheers, Vern
RE: Redhat 7
hi, just works fine with both... ;) a == Alexander Jernejcic email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] begin LOVE-LETTER-UND-NIX-DAZUGELERNT.txt.vbs I am a Signature, not a Virus! end == -Original Message- From: Mark Lo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 8:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Redhat 7 Hi, Should I run qmail under Redhat Linux 7 or Redhat Linux 6.2?? Thank you for your suggestion, Mark
SMTP authentication
I want to know the easiest and way to setup username/password authenication with my smtp server. Are there any suggestions? Preferably something compatible with outlook express' protocol. Thank you Brian Pinkney
Re: SMTP authentication
Hi, At 15:18 10.10.2000 -0400, Brian Pinkney wrote: I want to know the easiest and way to setup username/password authenication with my smtp server. Are there any suggestions? Preferably something compatible with outlook express' protocol. SMTP is a host-to-host protocol, not a user-to-user application. Outlook express is a Remote User Agent using POP3 or IMAP4. What you are looking for is probably "POP-before-SMTP". Look for that buzzword. cheers. eh. Thank you Brian Pinkney +---+ | fffhh http://www.fehcom.deDr. Erwin Hoffmann | | ff hh| | ffeee ccc ooomm mm mm Wiener Weg 8 | | fff ee ee hh hh cc oo oo mmm mm mm 50858 Koeln| | ff ee eee hh hh cc oo oo mm mm mm| | ff eee hh hh cc oo oo mm mm mm Tel 0221 484 4923 | | ff hh hhccc ooomm mm mm Fax 0221 484 4924 | +---+
pop3 doesnt recognize user passwords
Hi, I am using Paul Gregg's checkpasswd and his mkpasswd.pl utility. Somehow, by some strange luck, I managed to get a user working the first time no problem, but any new ones I add don't work. It is driving me nuts. Questions: The mkpasswd.pl utility asks for a seed, and I just hit enter...is this correct? Why does mkpasswd.pl generate a different encrypted password for the same real-world password each time you run it? I tried copying the password from my working user entry to an entry with a different name etc, but my mail client got the bad password error. This baffles the hell out of me because it checks fine for one user but not others. I think I just don't understand how the encryption works. Can anyone help me out or guess as to why I am getting bad password errors? Thanks. Gregg
Re: SMTP authentication
Brian Pinkney wrote: I want to know the easiest and way to setup username/password authenication with my smtp server. Are there any suggestions? Preferably something compatible with outlook express' protocol. Erwin Hoffman wrote: SMTP is a host-to-host protocol, not a user-to-user application. Outlook express is a Remote User Agent using POP3 or IMAP4. What you are looking for is probably "POP-before-SMTP". Look for that buzzword. That's not entirely accurate. First, POP and IMAP are protocols for retrieving email. Outlook Express, and indeed any mail user agent, still has to use SMTP for sending email. Second, SMTP can be made to require user authentication before this sending is possible, thanks to a protocol extention known as the AUTH command. There are a couple of patches to qmail that offer SMTP AUTH; check www.qmail.org and the list archives for details. ---Kris Kelley
RE: SMTP authentication
Their are several listed on http://www.qmail.org I use http://members.elysium.pl/brush/qmail-smtpd-auth/ with no problems. -Original Message- From: Brian Pinkney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SMTP authentication I want to know the easiest and way to setup username/password authenication with my smtp server. Are there any suggestions? Preferably something compatible with outlook express' protocol. Thank you Brian Pinkney
Hrmm, question on relay restrictions
I've been updating our relay rstriction security in tcpserv but while testing I noted that if I attempted to send a message to nobody%nobody.com (note the % instead of @) it actually acepts the message but bounces it back to me with a no local user error... How do I make it to where it doesn't allow that type of addressing??? --JT
RE: Hrmm, question on relay restrictions
What part of a bounced message implies that it has been delivered? Addressing something to somebody without an @ is just addressing it to the local system... You addressed it with % (no @)and it was not delivered. Sounds proper to me. David -Original Message-From: James Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:17 PMTo: QmailSubject: Hrmm, question on relay restrictions I've been updating our relay rstriction security in tcpserv but while testing I noted that if I attempted to send a message to nobody%nobody.com (note the % instead of @) it actually acepts the message but bounces it back to me with a no local user error... How do I make it to where it doesn't allow that type of addressing??? --JT
Re: Hrmm, question on relay restrictions
Nod, it is proper .. Well to my thinking it is maybe my logic is messed up today.. G But RSS and RBL tests keep failiing it because it responds back to there test with 250 Ok .. Meaning it excepted the message. When I test out sendmail and Microsoft's SMTP services they all deny it and respond back with the No Relaying Aloowed response which is what I would like Qmail to do... --JT - Original Message - From: Ihnen, David To: 'James Stevens' ; Qmail Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:16 PM Subject: RE: Hrmm, question on relay restrictions What part of a bounced message implies that it has been delivered? Addressing something to somebody without an @ is just addressing it to the local system... You addressed it with % (no @)and it was not delivered. Sounds proper to me. David -Original Message-From: James Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:17 PMTo: QmailSubject: Hrmm, question on relay restrictions I've been updating our relay rstriction security in tcpserv but while testing I noted that if I attempted to send a message to nobody%nobody.com (note the % instead of @) it actually acepts the message but bounces it back to me with a no local user error... How do I make it to where it doesn't allow that type of addressing??? --JT
Re: Qmail Tshirts
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 12:59:41PM -0600, Vern Hart wrote: For what it's worth, cafepress.com now offers four new products which I have made available with the qmail designs. They are: an ash gray tshirt, a sweat shirt, a long sleeve tshirt and a "Baby Doll" tshirt. http://vern.com/tshirts/qmail/ I'd go out and borrow somebody's creditcard right now if they were black instead of white, and a bit cheaper for European customers. Greetz, Peter -- dataloss networks '/ignore-ance is bliss' - me
Re: Qmail Tshirts
Peter van Dijk wrote: On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 12:59:41PM -0600, Vern Hart wrote: For what it's worth, cafepress.com now offers four new products which I have made available with the qmail designs. They are: an ash gray tshirt, a sweat shirt, a long sleeve tshirt and a "Baby Doll" tshirt. http://vern.com/tshirts/qmail/ I'd go out and borrow somebody's creditcard right now if they were black instead of white, and a bit cheaper for European customers. European customers.. pfft.. us poor New Zealand customers have hit the lowest exchange rate with the U.S. dollar yet. Have pity. 40 US cents to the NZD. The mug will make a nice companion to my grepmaster mug.
Re: Qmail Tshirts
Today, Peter van Dijk wrote: http://vern.com/tshirts/qmail/ I'd go out and borrow somebody's creditcard right now if they were black instead of white, and a bit cheaper for European customers. Yeah, I'd prefer a dark color as well (though I've got more than enough black shirts). But to do black, you'd have to do silk screen and to do silk screen you'd have to commit to some number of orders and deal with distribution etc. With cafepress.com, all I do is supply the images, they do the rest. Makes it much easier for me. I suppose they'd have to have a European branch to bring down the costs to their European customers. If you know of anyone willing to start one up, I'm sure they'd at least talk to them... Again, I reiterate: If anyone wants to run a silk screen batch, you're welcome to snag my designs and modify them to have more appropriate colors for a black shirt. If you do, let me know, I'd be interested. Cheers, Vern
Re: Hrmm, question on relay restrictions
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 02:36:38PM -0700, James Stevens wrote: Nod, it is proper .. Well to my thinking it is maybe my logic is messed up today.. G But RSS and RBL tests keep failiing it because it responds back to there test with 250 Ok .. Meaning it excepted the message. When I test out sendmail and Microsoft's SMTP services they all deny it and respond back with the No Relaying Aloowed response which is what I would like Qmail to do... --JT Don't you mean "accepted"? This is how qmail works. The tests don't "fail" RBL or RSS tests. They reject the mail internally. This is normal, compliant behavior and will not get you added to any blackhole lists. Sending 383-character lines in your email messages, however, may get you added to some procmail rules. --Adam -- Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] | "No matter how much it changes, http://flounder.net/publickey.html | technology's just a bunch of wires GPG: 17A4 11F7 5E7E C2E7 08AA| connected to a bunch of other wires." 38B0 05D0 8BF7 2C6D 110A| Joe Rogan, _NewsRadio_ 5:56pm up 122 days, 15:11, 11 users, load average: 0.04, 0.02, 0.02
Re: Hrmm, question on relay restrictions
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 02:36:38PM -0700, James Stevens wrote: Nod, it is proper .. Well to my thinking it is maybe my logic is messed up today.. G But RSS and RBL tests keep failiing it because it responds back to there test with 250 Ok .. Meaning it excepted the message. When I test out sendmail and Microsoft's SMTP services they all deny it and respond back with the No Relaying Aloowed response which is what I would like Qmail to do... You want qmail to reject a message if the recipient has a '%' in the address, and you want it to do this because sendmail, which has no relation to qmail, has in the past treated '%' specially and could be tricked into relaying mail addressed this way. The fact of the matter is that qmail isn't susceptible to being tricked this way, so there's no reason to treat '%' differently than any other character. We shouldn't reject mail with a '%' in the address any more than we should reject mail with a 't' in the address. By the way, qmail doesn't fail the RSS and RBL tests, because the mail is never relayed. That's the test. Chris
automated processing of incoming mails?
Hi, I am new to this list (and to qmail) so please forgive me if this has been asked before or if it's in the archives and I couldn't find it. We need to set up a mail server at a client site and I would like to use qmail (as part of a package called "e-smith") for that job. We need to be able to automate incoming emails (for one account) for EDI (order processing) which will be probably about the following procedure: - storing the attachment(s) (or mail body, don't know exactly yet) into a specific directory, - create log file entry about that email (when processed, sender's address, etc.), - trigger another program to process the contents of that directory (maybe I should do that with a cron job?) Can I do that just with qmail or what else will be needed (procmail)? Anybody doing something similar and willing to share some ideas/knowledge? Kind Regards, Michael Doerner
RE: automated processing of incoming mails?
Qmail can kick off a mail processing program upon delivery to any address, easily. Creating a script to extract attachments and do other things with the content of a message would be the realm of the programmer assigned to create the functionality. The same program that writes the log and processes the MIME text into binary files could also kick off the program that modifies the contents of the other directory. Another option would be to have a daemon sort of service that stats the directory intermittently to check for new messages. As for a program to do the issues you propose, I know of nothing that does that premade, but it would not be difficult to do, with, say, perl, and some modules. I bet you could pay somebody like me to write such a program. ;) David -Original Message- From: Michael Doerner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: automated processing of incoming mails? Hi, I am new to this list (and to qmail) so please forgive me if this has been asked before or if it's in the archives and I couldn't find it. We need to set up a mail server at a client site and I would like to use qmail (as part of a package called "e-smith") for that job. We need to be able to automate incoming emails (for one account) for EDI (order processing) which will be probably about the following procedure: - storing the attachment(s) (or mail body, don't know exactly yet) into a specific directory, - create log file entry about that email (when processed, sender's address, etc.), - trigger another program to process the contents of that directory (maybe I should do that with a cron job?) Can I do that just with qmail or what else will be needed (procmail)? Anybody doing something similar and willing to share some ideas/knowledge? Kind Regards, Michael Doerner
Fw: how do I create a catch-all mail rule for a domain?
I have a bunch of users @domain.com that have pop3 boxes. If something is sent to someone at domain.com who has no pop box then I want to provide an address to which all mail to @domain.com is sent if there is no boxholder assigned to it. In other words, any @domain.com mail for which there is no pop box user should go to this "catch-all" address. Do I put a wildcard rule after my other pop box rules in user assign? Thanks. Also, what is the appropriate way to simply take all email from a given address and forward it to another. Right now I have the user set up as a popbox holder and I specify the forward address in .qmail. It works, but it seems sort of involved to require use of pop boxes to forward mail. Anyway, was just wondering if there's a "righter" way ;) Gregg
Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server...
Can someone point me to a web page that has some explanation of setting up concurrent running qmails on the same machine and what edits I need to make to avoid conflicks.. Thanks in advance.. --JT
RE: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server...
I dont really see no good point on why you would want to run multiple copies of qmail... Or what you would understand by that ??!!?? Goran -Original Message- From: James Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:19 AM To: Qmail Subject: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... Can someone point me to a web page that has some explanation of setting up concurrent running qmails on the same machine and what edits I need to make to avoid conflicks.. Thanks in advance.. --JT
Re: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server...
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 05:18:30PM -0700, James Stevens wrote: Can someone point me to a web page that has some explanation of setting up concurrent running qmails on the same machine and what edits I need to make to avoid conflicks.. Just compile them using different dirs, and install them into those same different dirs. Also, be careful when launching qmail-smtpd. With tcpserver, the "IP" parameter can NOT be 0 (every interface, which is the most common setting). Each tcpserver must be bound to it's own network interface, (assuming you're always using the same port). RC -- +--- | Ricardo Cerqueira | PGP Key fingerprint - B7 05 13 CE 48 0A BF 1E 87 21 83 DB 28 DE 03 42 | Novis - Engenharia ISP / Rede Técnica | Pç. Duque Saldanha, 1, 7º E / 1050-094 Lisboa / Portugal | Tel: +351 2 1010 - Fax: +351 2 1010 4459 PGP signature
RE: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server...
We have found inbound mail to be very disk i/o bound w/o doing much to the cpu. so we added another disk and have two instances running. it lets us handle twice the load. you need the box to handle 2 IPs; for the second instance recompile w/ the value in: /export/home/qmail-1.03/conf-qmail to hold the home of the second queue, say /var/qmail2 instead of the default /var/qmail the spot in your tcpserver line that says 0 smtp should be changed to be: mail_instance_1.domain.com smtp and repeat the tcpserver startup for another instance. make sure to both qmail instances are started in your init script. -- Michael Boyiazis Mail Architect, NetZero, Inc. -Original Message- From: Goran Blazic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:23 PM To: 'James Stevens'; Qmail Subject: RE: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... I dont really see no good point on why you would want to run multiple copies of qmail... Or what you would understand by that ??!!?? Goran -Original Message- From: James Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:19 AM To: Qmail Subject: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... Can someone point me to a web page that has some explanation of setting up concurrent running qmails on the same machine and what edits I need to make to avoid conflicks.. Thanks in advance.. --JT
Re: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server...
Thanks! I was hoping it was that simple... --JT - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Cerqueira" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:29 PM Subject: Re: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server...
Re: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server...
On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 02:22:43AM +0200, Goran Blazic wrote: # I dont really see no good point on why you would want to run multiple copies # of qmail... # Or what you would understand by that ??!!?? # # Goran # comes in really handy when you have a list with 200,000 recipients, and you still need to relay mail for local users. If you setup ezmlm to use one instance, and you relay for local users, and accept bounces etc using the other then you won't have 4 hour delays between sending a single mail to a single recip anywhere near as often -- Justin Bell
Re: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server...
Thanks! .. ;) The machine I'm running qmail on has like a full c block assigned to it and a RAID5 array so I don't think the disk i/o will be a problem ?? But if needed I also have a RAID1 Array setup on it with twin 20gigs so I could place the secound qmail over there but I think the RAID5 should be fast enough for it Thoughts? --JT - Original Message - From: "Michael Boyiazis" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:38 PM Subject: RE: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... We have found inbound mail to be very disk i/o bound w/o doing much to the cpu. so we added another disk and have two instances running. it lets us handle twice the load. you need the box to handle 2 IPs; for the second instance recompile w/ the value in: /export/home/qmail-1.03/conf-qmail to hold the home of the second queue, say /var/qmail2 instead of the default /var/qmail the spot in your tcpserver line that says 0 smtp should be changed to be: mail_instance_1.domain.com smtp and repeat the tcpserver startup for another instance. make sure to both qmail instances are started in your init script. -- Michael Boyiazis Mail Architect, NetZero, Inc. -Original Message- From: Goran Blazic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:23 PM To: 'James Stevens'; Qmail Subject: RE: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... I dont really see no good point on why you would want to run multiple copies of qmail... Or what you would understand by that ??!!?? Goran -Original Message- From: James Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:19 AM To: Qmail Subject: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... Can someone point me to a web page that has some explanation of setting up concurrent running qmails on the same machine and what edits I need to make to avoid conflicks.. Thanks in advance.. --JT
RE: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server...
You're better off with RAID 0+1. I run RAID 5 on mine and when it runs through the queue, disk IO is the bottleneck. -Original Message- From: James Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 7:45 PM To: Michael Boyiazis; Qmail Subject: Re: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... Thanks! .. ;) The machine I'm running qmail on has like a full c block assigned to it and a RAID5 array so I don't think the disk i/o will be a problem ?? But if needed I also have a RAID1 Array setup on it with twin 20gigs so I could place the secound qmail over there but I think the RAID5 should be fast enough for it Thoughts? --JT - Original Message - From: "Michael Boyiazis" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:38 PM Subject: RE: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... We have found inbound mail to be very disk i/o bound w/o doing much to the cpu. so we added another disk and have two instances running. it lets us handle twice the load. you need the box to handle 2 IPs; for the second instance recompile w/ the value in: /export/home/qmail-1.03/conf-qmail to hold the home of the second queue, say /var/qmail2 instead of the default /var/qmail the spot in your tcpserver line that says 0 smtp should be changed to be: mail_instance_1.domain.com smtp and repeat the tcpserver startup for another instance. make sure to both qmail instances are started in your init script. -- Michael Boyiazis Mail Architect, NetZero, Inc. -Original Message- From: Goran Blazic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:23 PM To: 'James Stevens'; Qmail Subject: RE: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... I dont really see no good point on why you would want to run multiple copies of qmail... Or what you would understand by that ??!!?? Goran -Original Message- From: James Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:19 AM To: Qmail Subject: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... Can someone point me to a web page that has some explanation of setting up concurrent running qmails on the same machine and what edits I need to make to avoid conflicks.. Thanks in advance.. --JT
RE: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server...
Even on a raid 5 array, I'm sure that the processor will be waiting for the disk I/O. There is alot of it, after all. Is it a problem? Naw... Will it process messages faster with separate disks, and even separate disk controllers? I'm bettin it will. But when it comes down to it, are you more limited by bandwidth or disk i/o? Fix one bottleneck, you'll make another. David -Original Message- From: James Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:45 PM To: Michael Boyiazis; Qmail Subject: Re: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... Thanks! .. ;) The machine I'm running qmail on has like a full c block assigned to it and a RAID5 array so I don't think the disk i/o will be a problem ?? But if needed I also have a RAID1 Array setup on it with twin 20gigs so I could place the secound qmail over there but I think the RAID5 should be fast enough for it Thoughts? --JT - Original Message - From: "Michael Boyiazis" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:38 PM Subject: RE: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... We have found inbound mail to be very disk i/o bound w/o doing much to the cpu. so we added another disk and have two instances running. it lets us handle twice the load. you need the box to handle 2 IPs; for the second instance recompile w/ the value in: /export/home/qmail-1.03/conf-qmail to hold the home of the second queue, say /var/qmail2 instead of the default /var/qmail the spot in your tcpserver line that says 0 smtp should be changed to be: mail_instance_1.domain.com smtp and repeat the tcpserver startup for another instance. make sure to both qmail instances are started in your init script. -- Michael Boyiazis Mail Architect, NetZero, Inc. -Original Message- From: Goran Blazic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:23 PM To: 'James Stevens'; Qmail Subject: RE: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... I dont really see no good point on why you would want to run multiple copies of qmail... Or what you would understand by that ??!!?? Goran -Original Message- From: James Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:19 AM To: Qmail Subject: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... Can someone point me to a web page that has some explanation of setting up concurrent running qmails on the same machine and what edits I need to make to avoid conflicks.. Thanks in advance.. --JT
Re: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server...
Hrmm Been running qmail for about 5 months now and really haven't noticed a bottle neck. I know with SendMail (shudder) there were bottle necks everywhere... But since I installed qmail really haven't ecperienced any... --JT - Original Message - From: "Austad, Jay" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'James Stevens'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Michael Boyiazis" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Qmail" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:50 PM Subject: RE: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... You're better off with RAID 0+1. I run RAID 5 on mine and when it runs through the queue, disk IO is the bottleneck. -Original Message- From: James Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 7:45 PM To: Michael Boyiazis; Qmail Subject: Re: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... Thanks! .. ;) The machine I'm running qmail on has like a full c block assigned to it and a RAID5 array so I don't think the disk i/o will be a problem ?? But if needed I also have a RAID1 Array setup on it with twin 20gigs so I could place the secound qmail over there but I think the RAID5 should be fast enough for it Thoughts? --JT - Original Message - From: "Michael Boyiazis" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:38 PM Subject: RE: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... We have found inbound mail to be very disk i/o bound w/o doing much to the cpu. so we added another disk and have two instances running. it lets us handle twice the load. you need the box to handle 2 IPs; for the second instance recompile w/ the value in: /export/home/qmail-1.03/conf-qmail to hold the home of the second queue, say /var/qmail2 instead of the default /var/qmail the spot in your tcpserver line that says 0 smtp should be changed to be: mail_instance_1.domain.com smtp and repeat the tcpserver startup for another instance. make sure to both qmail instances are started in your init script. -- Michael Boyiazis Mail Architect, NetZero, Inc. -Original Message- From: Goran Blazic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:23 PM To: 'James Stevens'; Qmail Subject: RE: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... I dont really see no good point on why you would want to run multiple copies of qmail... Or what you would understand by that ??!!?? Goran -Original Message- From: James Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:19 AM To: Qmail Subject: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... Can someone point me to a web page that has some explanation of setting up concurrent running qmails on the same machine and what edits I need to make to avoid conflicks.. Thanks in advance.. --JT
Re: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server...
Laugh, ok wheres that Fiber Trunk and gigabit card I ordered? --JT - Original Message - From: "Ihnen, David" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'James Stevens'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Michael Boyiazis" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Qmail" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:48 PM Subject: RE: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... Even on a raid 5 array, I'm sure that the processor will be waiting for the disk I/O. There is alot of it, after all. Is it a problem? Naw... Will it process messages faster with separate disks, and even separate disk controllers? I'm bettin it will. But when it comes down to it, are you more limited by bandwidth or disk i/o? Fix one bottleneck, you'll make another. David -Original Message- From: James Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:45 PM To: Michael Boyiazis; Qmail Subject: Re: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... Thanks! .. ;) The machine I'm running qmail on has like a full c block assigned to it and a RAID5 array so I don't think the disk i/o will be a problem ?? But if needed I also have a RAID1 Array setup on it with twin 20gigs so I could place the secound qmail over there but I think the RAID5 should be fast enough for it Thoughts? --JT - Original Message - From: "Michael Boyiazis" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:38 PM Subject: RE: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... We have found inbound mail to be very disk i/o bound w/o doing much to the cpu. so we added another disk and have two instances running. it lets us handle twice the load. you need the box to handle 2 IPs; for the second instance recompile w/ the value in: /export/home/qmail-1.03/conf-qmail to hold the home of the second queue, say /var/qmail2 instead of the default /var/qmail the spot in your tcpserver line that says 0 smtp should be changed to be: mail_instance_1.domain.com smtp and repeat the tcpserver startup for another instance. make sure to both qmail instances are started in your init script. -- Michael Boyiazis Mail Architect, NetZero, Inc. -Original Message- From: Goran Blazic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:23 PM To: 'James Stevens'; Qmail Subject: RE: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... I dont really see no good point on why you would want to run multiple copies of qmail... Or what you would understand by that ??!!?? Goran -Original Message- From: James Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:19 AM To: Qmail Subject: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... Can someone point me to a web page that has some explanation of setting up concurrent running qmails on the same machine and what edits I need to make to avoid conflicks.. Thanks in advance.. --JT
Re: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server...
ROFL, ok.. I feel small now ... ... ... ... --JT - Original Message - From: "Austad, Jay" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'James Stevens'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:56 PM Subject: RE: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... Here's what I did: I have a main server running qmail and ezmlm. I set up ezmlm to use qmqp to send it's messages. I modified qmail-qmqmc.c to randomly pick a QMQP server instead of just choosing the first one. Each list is broken up into 52 sublists. Right now, I only have 3 QMQP servers. When a message goes out, it randomly distributes 52 separate messages between 3 QMQP servers, which ends up being pretty even. All of the sending is offloaded to other machines, and split up, so the messages go out super fast. 1,000,000 addresses in under 15 minutes. :) I saturate one of our DS3's everytime it runs. My modifications can support up to 255 QMQP servers. The bounces are starting to load down the main box though, I'm going to have to lower the ezmlm-warn timeout to about 4 days, it's still at 11.6. Jay -Original Message- From: James Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 7:38 PM To: Goran Blazic; Qmail Subject: Re: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... Well when a list of 200k+ is mailing and another list gets fired up behind it I would like the server which sits almost twiddling it's thumbs and has all kinds of resources left over to be able to send out to more than one list at a time without a queue delay Right now 'Majordomo' funnels all messages into qmail via qmail-send and anything that gets queued after that has to wait for the current queue to get done. To get around this I plan on setting up multiple qmails under the same server each having it's own queue ofcourse and then each client would have his or her own smtp server for sending to there lists on. Meaning that with multiple qmails running one client could send to her or his list and a secound client could send to her or his list and a third client could send to her or his list and I could send to my staff list and nowone would experience any delays and maybe just maybe my server might get above a 5% load avaerage for the first time in it's life. Anyways if anyone has actually done this please point me in the right direction I'd really appreciate it. ;) --JT - Original Message - From: "Goran Blazic" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'James Stevens'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Qmail" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:22 PM Subject: RE: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... I dont really see no good point on why you would want to run multiple copies of qmail... Or what you would understand by that ??!!?? Goran -Original Message- From: James Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:19 AM To: Qmail Subject: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... Can someone point me to a web page that has some explanation of setting up concurrent running qmails on the same machine and what edits I need to make to avoid conflicks.. Thanks in advance.. --JT
RE: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server...
I'm going to have to put some QMQP servers in our other data centers to get more speed out of it. We've got 90Mbit/sec worth of bandwidth at each one of those, but it'll burst higher. I noticed that when the messages are broken up into 20,000 rcpt chunks, they go out way faster than a bunch of 150,000 rcpt chunks. At our current growth rate, we expect over 5,000,000 users per list during the first part of 2001. I just have to figure out how to increase the disk IO performance or reduce the need for it on the list server box. Jay -Original Message- From: James Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 8:03 PM To: Austad, Jay; Qmail Subject: Re: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... ROFL, ok.. I feel small now ... ... ... ... --JT - Original Message - From: "Austad, Jay" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'James Stevens'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:56 PM Subject: RE: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... Here's what I did: I have a main server running qmail and ezmlm. I set up ezmlm to use qmqp to send it's messages. I modified qmail-qmqmc.c to randomly pick a QMQP server instead of just choosing the first one. Each list is broken up into 52 sublists. Right now, I only have 3 QMQP servers. When a message goes out, it randomly distributes 52 separate messages between 3 QMQP servers, which ends up being pretty even. All of the sending is offloaded to other machines, and split up, so the messages go out super fast. 1,000,000 addresses in under 15 minutes. :) I saturate one of our DS3's everytime it runs. My modifications can support up to 255 QMQP servers. The bounces are starting to load down the main box though, I'm going to have to lower the ezmlm-warn timeout to about 4 days, it's still at 11.6. Jay -Original Message- From: James Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 7:38 PM To: Goran Blazic; Qmail Subject: Re: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... Well when a list of 200k+ is mailing and another list gets fired up behind it I would like the server which sits almost twiddling it's thumbs and has all kinds of resources left over to be able to send out to more than one list at a time without a queue delay Right now 'Majordomo' funnels all messages into qmail via qmail-send and anything that gets queued after that has to wait for the current queue to get done. To get around this I plan on setting up multiple qmails under the same server each having it's own queue ofcourse and then each client would have his or her own smtp server for sending to there lists on. Meaning that with multiple qmails running one client could send to her or his list and a secound client could send to her or his list and a third client could send to her or his list and I could send to my staff list and nowone would experience any delays and maybe just maybe my server might get above a 5% load avaerage for the first time in it's life. Anyways if anyone has actually done this please point me in the right direction I'd really appreciate it. ;) --JT - Original Message - From: "Goran Blazic" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'James Stevens'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Qmail" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:22 PM Subject: RE: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... I dont really see no good point on why you would want to run multiple copies of qmail... Or what you would understand by that ??!!?? Goran -Original Message- From: James Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:19 AM To: Qmail Subject: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... Can someone point me to a web page that has some explanation of setting up concurrent running qmails on the same machine and what edits I need to make to avoid conflicks.. Thanks in advance.. --JT
No $HOME when pop3 ?
When I try to get my mails via pop3 using qmail-pop3d as follows (on inetd.conf): pop3stream tcp nowait root /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup tec-sis.com.ar /usr/local/bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir I get the following error: -ERR this user has no $HOME/Maildir Connection closed by foreign host. I have a valid Maildir directory where my mails are delivery too, I think that this problem is caused because $HOME is not set when trying to get $HOME/Maildir or something like that. Where can I find logs about this ? Where can I read about this problem, how to solve it ? Thank you very much! -- Pupeno: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.pupeno.com PGP fingerprint: 02B5 EDAE EC30 7A9A 0327 9D05 89FB 8D14 B4D8 64C3 Get my key from: http://www.pgp.net/pgpnet/wwwkeys.html
Re: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server...
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 08:08:03PM -0500, Austad, Jay wrote: I'm going to have to put some QMQP servers in our other data centers to get more speed out of it. We've got 90Mbit/sec worth of bandwidth at each one of those, but it'll burst higher. I noticed that when the messages are broken up into 20,000 rcpt chunks, they go out way faster than a bunch of 150,000 rcpt chunks. At our current growth rate, we expect over 5,000,000 users per list during the first part of 2001. I just have to figure out how to increase the disk IO performance or reduce the need for it on the list server box. How big are your queues? (in disk space terms)? Can you afford to lose a queue occasionally? Can you afford a ram disk? Just as an exercise you might want to run a queue as a memory file system for a little while, just to see the sort of benefit you could gain. Regards.
Re: Fw: how do I create a catch-all mail rule for a domain?
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 05:32:16PM -0700, Barley wrote: I have a bunch of users @domain.com that have pop3 boxes. If something is sent to someone at domain.com who has no pop box then I want to provide an address to which all mail to @domain.com is sent if there is no boxholder assigned to it. In other words, any @domain.com mail for which there is no pop box user should go to this "catch-all" address. Do I put a wildcard rule after my other pop box rules in user assign? Thanks. It depends on whether the domain is local or virtual, but in either case you'll use some kind of .qmail-default file. If it's a local domain, you can just stick a .qmail-default file in ~alias, the contents of which is the catch-all address. Also, what is the appropriate way to simply take all email from a given address and forward it to another. Right now I have the user set up as a popbox holder and I specify the forward address in .qmail. It works, but it seems sort of involved to require use of pop boxes to forward mail. Anyway, was just wondering if there's a "righter" way ;) Stick .qmail-whatever files in ~alias. (Again, this would be for a local domain, but the concept is the same for a virtual domain.) If you can't figure out how to set this up for a virtual domain, provide a sample entry from your virtualdomains file and someone will be able to help you. Chris
Re: No $HOME when pop3 ?
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 10:41:54PM -0300, Pupeno wrote: When I try to get my mails via pop3 using qmail-pop3d as follows (on inetd.conf): pop3stream tcp nowait root /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup tec-sis.com.ar /usr/local/bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir I assume this is all on one line. I get the following error: -ERR this user has no $HOME/Maildir Connection closed by foreign host. Try it this way instead (all on one line): pop3stream tcp nowait root /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup qmail-popup tec-sis.com.ar /usr/local/bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir Better yet, use tcpserver instead of inetd. Its use is well documented on various qmail how-to sites, and it's better supported on this list. Chris
Re: Qmail Tshirts
would you add ash gray long sleeve too? cheers wolfgang Also sprach Vern Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10.10.2000: For what it's worth, cafepress.com now offers four new products which I have made available with the qmail designs. They are: an ash gray tshirt, a sweat shirt, a long sleeve tshirt and a "Baby Doll" tshirt. http://vern.com/tshirts/qmail/ Cheers, Vern
Maildir Mailbox
Here's the skinny: I want maildir. I want it for my IMAP Webmail(IMAP frontend) server and for general purposes. I need mailbox for my mail client since there's not maildir support. I'm wondering if anybody has done any of the following: A: Created a nifty program so that when I try to access a mailbox file, it's actually interfaced so that I'm accessing my maildir B: Written a converter that I can run on the fly. C: Figured out some other solution to this problem. Also, anybody wanna explain IMAP to me? I'm confused as hell. I want to have both an IMAP and POP3 server for the same email address. Now let's say I use an IMAP client to move a mail from one folder to another (pray tell, what are these "folders" and where are they? I dunno how to set them up initially). Now when I use POP3, does it theoretically fetch just the stuff in the "inbox" folder or all of it? What pop3 server plays nice with courier-IMAP? Anything that uses maildir? Is it possible to set my mail client to access localhost:110 for pop3 and have it move the maildir stuff into it's own native mailbox files that way? The last time I tried that my mail went straight into the void when I tried to check it. Anybody know of any maildir-supporting console email programs? Thanks, Casey
How do you unsub from this list?
I've been trying for days now to remove a second (and no longer used much) account from this list and am having no luck. Advice appreciated. - Casey
Re: Maildir Mailbox
I notice that your next message is requesting instructions on how to un-subscribe to the list. Kind of weird to ask detailed questions like this and then disappear. Makes me wonder what motivated you to ask the questions. However, just in case you're serious Here's the skinny: I want maildir. I want it for my IMAP Webmail(IMAP frontend) server and for general purposes. I need mailbox for my mail client since there's not maildir support. I'm wondering if anybody has done any of the following: A: Created a nifty program so that when I try to access a mailbox file, it's actually interfaced so that I'm accessing my maildir B: Written a converter that I can run on the fly. C: Figured out some other solution to this problem. I don't know of any solution of that kind. What you might consider doing, if you have a user base that you can't take off of that mbox only client is to create a separate server with sendmail on it, and forward the mail there for those selected users that want it. Also, anybody wanna explain IMAP to me? I'm confused as hell. I want to have both an IMAP and POP3 server for the same email address. Now let's say I use an IMAP client to move a mail from one folder to another (pray tell, what are these "folders" and where are they? I dunno how to set them up initially). Now when I use POP3, does it theoretically fetch just the stuff in the "inbox" folder or all of it? What pop3 server plays nice with courier-IMAP? Anything that uses maildir? While running IMAP and pop3 on the same server is ok, it happens all the time, I wouldn't recommend a user using both types of clients for the same address interchangeably. The fundemental difference between IMAP and POP3 is with IMAP you store your mail on the server, and with POP3 you download your mail to the local machine. With IMAP, your folders are created, and mail moved between the folders with each message remaining on that server. With POP3 you are downloading email from the server to the local machine's hard drive. The email client uses it's own system and protocols to create and administer folders. A POP3 and IMAP server will play nice with each other in the sense that they will mostly ignore each other. Since Courier IMAP also uses some sort of index file for each folder including the INBOX folder, and POP3 won't update that index file when you download email from it, there may be problems when a particular user tries to use one and then the other protocol to read their mail. You mentioned courier, and courier stores its folders in the $HOME/Maildir directory. Each folder has its own sub-directory. I don't know how much more detail to go into. Surely you know what a folder is? If you haven't seen any evidence of a folder that you created using an IMAP client, try using the "-a" switch when using the "ls" command. All Courier folders start with a ".". Is it possible to set my mail client to access localhost:110 for pop3 and have it move the maildir stuff into it's own native mailbox files that way? The last time I tried that my mail went straight into the void when I tried to check it. Well, that's actually an imaginative idea. You might want look at configuring the client so that it's definition or location of INBOX doesn't interfere with any other program you have running on the system. I don't know what else to say on that. I'm not going to try it. Anybody know of any maildir-supporting console email programs? Mutt is the most popular. I've never used it. Thanks, Casey You bet. === Al __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server...
Thus said "James Stevens" on Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:38:01 PDT: list at a time without a queue delay Right now 'Majordomo' funnels all messages into qmail via qmail-send and anything that gets queued after that has to wait for the current queue to get done. To get around this I plan on setting up multiple qmails under the same server each having it's own queue You might consider installing ezmlm or ezmlm-idx over majordomo---it is integrated pretty tightly with qmail and would probably increase the performance as well. majordomo is almost as much as beast compared to ezmlm as sendmail is compared to qmail. :-) Andy -- [---[system uptime]] 10:29pm up 4 days, 1:56, 3 users, load average: 1.41, 1.31, 1.27
RE: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server...
The queues aren't bad now, we're pretty good about prompty removing any addresses that are bad, and total garbage emails don't even get subscribed to the list. Doesn't really matter if we lose a queue. I did play with memory filesystems a couple of months ago, and I got worse performance on that than I did on the 30GB IDE drive on the machine! I think I may have figured out a way to distribute the queue across multiple servers. I just have to figure out if ezmlm would still be able to handle bounces OK. Jay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 8:43 PM To: Qmail Subject: Re: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server... On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 08:08:03PM -0500, Austad, Jay wrote: I'm going to have to put some QMQP servers in our other data centers to get more speed out of it. We've got 90Mbit/sec worth of bandwidth at each one of those, but it'll burst higher. I noticed that when the messages are broken up into 20,000 rcpt chunks, they go out way faster than a bunch of 150,000 rcpt chunks. At our current growth rate, we expect over 5,000,000 users per list during the first part of 2001. I just have to figure out how to increase the disk IO performance or reduce the need for it on the list server box. How big are your queues? (in disk space terms)? Can you afford to lose a queue occasionally? Can you afford a ram disk? Just as an exercise you might want to run a queue as a memory file system for a little while, just to see the sort of benefit you could gain. Regards.
OT: a real MUA for X? (was qmail list reply-to)
Okay, so does anybody know of a "real" MUA that is X-enhanced? Sorry, but "pretty" is more of a concern to me than "works properly in strange situations". I would prefer "not outright broken" and "not vaporware", though. -mike On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Adam McKenna wrote: Not using microshaft brokenware. Use a real MUA, for example, Mutt, which you tell what mailing lists you subscribe to, and then use the List-Reply-To (L) when replying. It also generates Mail-Followup-To headers for the lists you're subscribed to (and even lists you're not subscribed to, if you tell Mutt about them.) --Adam -- Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] | "No matter how much it changes, http://flounder.net/publickey.html | technology's just a bunch of wires GPG: 17A4 11F7 5E7E C2E7 08AA| connected to a bunch of other wires." 38B0 05D0 8BF7 2C6D 110A| Joe Rogan, _NewsRadio_ 1:53pm up 122 days, 11:08, 11 users, load average: 0.08, 0.05, 0.01 -- GnuPG key available at http://devel.duluoz.net/pubkey.asc Key ID = 1024D/9A256AE5 1999-11-13 Mike Glover [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = EF6E 8BCB 4810 E98C F0FD 4596 367A 32B7 9A25 6AE5
Re: OT: a real MUA for X? (was qmail list reply-to)
Mike Glover [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okay, so does anybody know of a "real" MUA that is X-enhanced? Sorry, but "pretty" is more of a concern to me than "works properly in strange situations". I would prefer "not outright broken" and "not vaporware", though. -mike Under X? Try Gnus. It doesn't just work properly in strange situations, it works properly in normal situations as well! And it is the MOST real MUA you will ever find. It can be pretty...run it under XEmacs. However, if you are going to be making this a 'standard' program for new users, then I recommend Gnus. If it is going to be for management, you want them to have a real nice interface, and you're going to have to give them a short tutorial. So you will want to use...guess it...Gnus! I would never have been so blunt about an MUA a week ago, but seriously, I underestimated the power of Gnus. I am using it now, and the normal day-to-day stuff is real simple once you've figured it out. Do the world a favour, and start your staff/yourself using Gnus. You won't regret it. /BR -- "Miss Lisa Cannifax, while sitting in English class, felt her feet go numbly heavy and herself fall into a hazy trance as the boy sitting behind her drew repeated lines with his pencil across the back of her plastic chair." - Lars
Q-Mail SMTP logging
Title: Q-Mail SMTP logging I know that the topic of SMTP logging has been flogged to death before, and I don't want to start another discussion on it. However, is there anyone out there that HAS written a patch to qmail-smtpd to log any errors, (actually, any response other than normal) to STDERR? I know about recordio, so please, no discussions/comments about using recordio. If you have a patch, or know where I could obtain one, could you please e-mail me directly. Thanks in advance, Regards, Charles Warwick Please Note: The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. If you have received this email in error, kindly notify the sender. The sender does not guarantee the integrity of this email or any attached files.
