Re: Pop3 and Maildir ?

2000-11-22 Thread Peter van Dijk

On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 03:38:14PM +, Dennis Kavadas wrote:
 Hey all...
 
 Can Qmail support both POP3 and Maildir simultaneously ?

Yes.

 I'd like people to have the option.
 If so, what do you guys suggest using ?

qmail-pop3d :)

Greetz, Peter
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QMail 1.03 and Exchange 5.5 relaying problem

2000-11-22 Thread Jari Huovila

Hi everyone!

I'm running Exchange Server 5.5 Service Pack 3 and QMail 1.03. Exchange's Internet 
Mail Connector sends all outgoing mail through qmail which is configured to accept 
relaying from Exchange. All outgoing messages bounce back from qmail with the error 
message below (addresses in the error message have been changed). As you can see, two 
" characters have appeared at the end of the recipient's address.

If I use the same QMail server as SMTP server of my mail client, everything works just 
great. I can also send mail from the QMail server itself. Exchange, on the other hand, 
can relay messages through Sendmail without any problems.

Any idea what could be wrong?

- Jari

 begin error-message 

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at qmail.mydomain.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]"":
Sorry, I couldn't find any host named domain.com"". (#5.1.2)

--- Below this line is a copy of the message.

Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 2111 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2000 00:26:04
-
Received: from unknown (HELO exchange.mydomain.com) (unknown)
  by unknown with SMTP; 22 Nov 2000 00:26:04 -
Received: by exchange.mydomain.com with Internet Mail Service
(5.5.2650.21)
id XL3MR7YB; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 22:25:36 +0200
Message-ID:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Hello!
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 22:25:35 +0200
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21)
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"

Hello there!

 end error-message 

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Re: IMAP and Maildir

2000-11-22 Thread roger

On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 01:01:55PM -0800, Nicholas Leonovich wrote:
 Courier-IMAP is working well with Maildir for me...
 http://www.inter7.com

Does it play nice with Microsoft Outlook or Outlook Express?  The last
time I checked this package, there was a statement to the effect that
it didn't.

Alternatively, can anyone point me at some useful instructions for
getting UW-IMAP running with Maildir, since (in its default
configuration), it (mostly) works with Outlook...

Cheers,
Roger.





qmail Digest 22 Nov 2000 11:00:01 -0000 Issue 1191

2000-11-22 Thread qmail-digest-help


qmail Digest 22 Nov 2000 11:00:01 - Issue 1191

Topics (messages 52591 through 52698):

Re: Backing up IMAP Maildir's ?
52591 by: Dennis
52593 by: Peter Green
52599 by: Tim Hunter
52606 by: Bill Carlson
52613 by: Dave Sill
52617 by: Matt Brown
52642 by: David L. Nicol
52654 by: Kourosh Ghassemieh
52655 by: Kourosh Ghassemieh

Problem with "make setup check" in Aix 4.3
52592 by: Fernando Barreto

Anti-Spam
52594 by: Ould
52595 by: Jose AP Celestino
52615 by: Christopher Splinter

How insall qmail relay server in an DMZ
52596 by: Ould
52626 by: Dave Sill
52677 by: Jose AP Celestino
52679 by: Jose AP Celestino
52682 by: Jose AP Celestino
52683 by: Andy Bradford

Relay and rblsmtpd
52597 by: Roberto Samarone Araujo \(RSA\)

Problem with rblsmtpd test I dont'have tcp.smtp.cdb
52598 by: Ould
52627 by: Dave Sill
52675 by: Jose AP Celestino
52676 by: Jose AP Celestino
52681 by: Jose AP Celestino

Re: ezmlm response
52600 by: Peter Green

Re: smtp service being flooded
52601 by: Dave Sill

qrblcheck
52602 by: Mate Wierdl
52603 by: Mate Wierdl
52621 by: Jon Rust

Postgres
52604 by: Cleiton Luiz Siqueira
52659 by: Peter van Dijk

Re: return receipts
52605 by: David L. Nicol

How do I use qmail with Windows clients?
52607 by: Phil_Hedley.Mitel.COM
52680 by: Jose AP Celestino

Uh-oh:_.qmail_has_file_delivery_but_has_x_bit_set
52608 by: Jon
52610 by: Jamin Collins
52612 by: Matt Brown

What is the problem???
52609 by: Ould

Minor Annoyance
52611 by: Jamin Collins
52614 by: Peter Green
52648 by: David Dyer-Bennet
52685 by: Peter Green

Starting qmail: problem with svscan
52616 by: Joao Costa
52618 by: Matt Brown
52619 by: Joao Costa
52625 by: Ricardo Cerqueira
52629 by: Dave Sill
52630 by: Dave Sill
52631 by: Ruprecht Helms

Re: Host name not found
52620 by: Dave Sill
52638 by: markd.bushwire.net

Re: secrets and lies
52622 by: Michael T. Babcock
52623 by: Michael T. Babcock
52628 by: Adam McKenna
52633 by: Qmail Admin
52639 by: Paul Jarc
52640 by: Paul Jarc
52641 by: Raul Miller
52643 by: Paul Jarc
52649 by: Michael T. Babcock
52652 by: Vinko Vrsalovic
52662 by: Raul Miller
52663 by: Raul Miller
52668 by: Al
52669 by: Paul Jarc
52670 by: Paul Jarc
52672 by: Paul Jarc
52674 by: Al
52678 by: Al
52692 by: Russ Allbery

log question
52624 by: Barry Smoke

IMAP and Maildir
52632 by: Jamin Collins
52635 by: Peter Green
52637 by: Nicholas Leonovich
52698 by: roger.beerology.net

SMTP
52634 by: Ederson
52644 by: Charles Cazabon

qmail won't deliver emails?
52636 by: Collin B. McClendon
52665 by: Timothy Legant

qmail enhancements
52645 by: Johan Van Gompel
52651 by: Sean Reifschneider
52664 by: Bruce Guenter

Courier or qmail
52646 by: Jamin Collins
52647 by: Ben Beuchler
52650 by: Sean Reifschneider

Re: Separation of qmail-smtpd  qmail-remote
52653 by: Sean Reifschneider

Problem with "421: Server Temporary unavailable"
52656 by: O'Yang Kai

Re: Forwarding of a whole domain
52657 by: Sean Reifschneider

Re: control files on an NFS share?
52658 by: Sean Reifschneider
52673 by: Ben Beuchler

Help with open relay questions
52660 by: Eric Walters

Re: socket sending to qmail problem... please help...
52661 by: Sean Reifschneider

maildrop with qmail , vpopmail and sqwebmail
52666 by: carl

Re: SMTP on a port other than 25
52667 by: Michael Boyiazis

list archive?
52671 by: Robert Eric Pearse
52686 by: Peter Green

Virtual Domains
52684 by: Dennis Kavadas
52687 by: David Dyer-Bennet

Pop3 and Maildir ?
52688 by: Dennis Kavadas
52696 by: Peter van Dijk

sending messages from sysadm to users
52689 by: David Ryan
52690 by: Andy Bradford
52691 by: Ben Beuchler

ezmlm...
52693 by: Marc-Adrian Napoli

Quicky mail list
52694 by: Tim Burden

Command + Delivery?
52695 by: Todd A. Jacobs

QMail 1.03 and Exchange 5.5 relaying problem
52697 by: Jari Huovila

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Problems starting qmail

2000-11-22 Thread Phil_Hedley

Hi all,

I've just re-installed qmail following the procedures in 'Life with qmail'.
When I use the command /usr/local/sbin/qmail start I get :-

Starting qmail: svscan.
:No such file or directory
:No such file or directory
:No such file or directory
:No such file or directory
...recursively

Can someone give me a hint as to what is happening ?

Something I was not sure of during the install procedure is the setting up of
maildir and users.
I believe I need to do this as I intend to use qmail-pop3d

I have used the approach as detailed in the installation and set up var/qmail/rc
as :-
exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH"  qmail-start "`cat
/var/qmail/control/defaultdelivery`"

in /var/qmail/control/defaultdelivery I have :-
./Maildir/

Do I need to use maildirmake for each user ? or is this done automatically if a
mail is recieved for a valid username ?

Thanks,
Phil hedley





Re: Help with open relay questions

2000-11-22 Thread Charles Cazabon

Eric Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I have an qmail server setup and running,  but am having difficulty getting
 it to selectively relay.
 
 I have a server setup so that it is using virtualdomains.  The users of the
 mail system connect to it from the Internet to send and receive email.
 Therefore I need it to allow people to send messages from a local user to a
 remote user.  It seems to be allowing all email to pass through.

You've probably got no /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts file, and are therefore
an open relay.  This is Very Bad (tm).

The file should contain lines for each domain you are willing to accept email
for -- this should be 'localhost', any proper names for the box and its local
domains (contents of /var/qmail/control/locals) and the domains in
virtualdomains.

Then, to allow your virtualdomain users on the net at large to send mail 
through you, install a POP-before-SMTP solution which allows people to relay
from any IP address _if_ they successfully check their mail with POP3
first.  The best POP-before-SMTP package (IMO) is Bruce Guenter's
excellent relay-ctrl.

See http://em.ca/~bruceg/relay-ctrl/ for more info.

As an alternative, your virtualdomain users really should be relaying their
mail through the SMTP server of their ISP -- this is what the ISP's SMTP
servers are for.

Charles
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Re: qmail enhancements

2000-11-22 Thread Robert Varga



On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, Johan Van Gompel wrote:

 (1) check if a FQDN exists for the sender's IP (if not: no go);

If tcpserver has the -h option then it looks up FQDN and puts it in
TCPREMOTEHOST. If you use -p option as well, then it even verifies it, and
unsets TCPREMOTEHOST if it cannot be matched (no A or CNAME to the FQDN
matches the remote ip-literal). You can write a wrapper before
qmail-smtpd, which calls qmail-smtpd if TCPREMOTEHOST is set, or echoes
the error message of your selection and terminates. It will do the trick I
think.

 (2) allow POP3 access via SSL only;

Use stunnel (see my post in the stunnel list regarding this).

 (3) extract any mail attachment and check it for various things;
 (viruses, unallowed extensions, etc.)

See the amavis website regarding this.

 (4) support delivery to same users at different domains;

Virtual domain feature in qmail.

 (5) allow only a more rigid form of authentication;
 (e.g. POP-before-SMTP)


See www.qmail.org for a solution solving this (there is at least two
solutions there), or the vpopmail package regarding this.

Regards,

Robert Varga




RE: Postgres

2000-11-22 Thread tong

Try
http://www.csusb.net/free/qmail/index.html

wehre a simple script makes use of Postgres  to implement a 
single-system-user-account POP3 scheme and can resolve 
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-Original Message-
From: Peter van Dijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 8:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Postgres


On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 03:14:10PM -0200, Cleiton Luiz Siqueira wrote:
 Does anyone know how I can set up qmail with postgres database?

As far as I know, nobody has written up the necessary patches yet.

If you could elaborate on your needs, we might be able to help you out.

For example, I use qmail (no shit :) with tables generated from mySQL. I
don't need any mySQL patches to qmail for that, just a way to get my
data from mysql to my tables
(http://www.dataloss.net/software/mysqlquery/ is what I use, homegrown
tool :)

Greetz, Peter
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Re: Command + Delivery?

2000-11-22 Thread Charles Cazabon

Todd A. Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm struggling to understand something in the dot-qmail files. If I want
 to run something, and use the error code to determine if the mail should
 be delivered, how do I do that?

It's documented fairly well in the man page for qmail-command. 

 At the moment, I have a .qmail-test file that contains a call to an RBL
 lookup utilityi that returns 100 if it's a blocked IP, and 0 otherwise. It
 reads:
 
   |ck4spam
   nospam
 
 The problem is that the mail disappears into the bitbucket regardless of
 the errorlevel returned.

This looks like it should work -- except the second line should probably
be a Maildir or mbox delivery line, rather than a forward line (forward could
loop back to this .qmail file).

Perhaps your script is broken.  You didn't post it, so we can't tell.
Plus, qmail never sends mail to the bitbucket without a trace.  Your logs
will say exactly what happens to mail that goes through this .qmail file.

Charles
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Re: How insall qmail relay server in an DMZ

2000-11-22 Thread Ricardo Cerqueira

On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 08:53:32PM -0700, Andy Bradford wrote:
 Thus said Jose AP Celestino on Wed, 22 Nov 2000 01:38:39 GMT:
 
  Have you tried rtfm. There's plenty of stuff on this.
 
 Why don't you RTFM on your MUA so you don't send out duplicate emails 
 to the mailing list...  sheesh.

Triplicate. Eeek! Fix that damn MUA!

RC

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RE: secrets and lies

2000-11-22 Thread zone


 The Artistic License was explicitly designed to be part of a
 dual-licensing arrangement.  It's not strong enough to stand
 on its own;
 the language hasn't been hammered out nearly well enough.


But the idea behind it seems to apply to what may be the desired result:
retaining control.

-
"One of the best examples of pure democracy in action is the lynch mob"
- AA4YU





Has anyone created a Web Admin module for qmail ?

2000-11-22 Thread Ørjan Vøllestad

www.webadmin.com doesn't work...

From.
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Nettverkskonsulent/Linux
Alkeveien 4, 9015 Tromsø 
Postboks 2033, 9265 Tromsø
Tel: +47 77 67 91 00, Fax: +47 77 67 91 01
Dir: +47 77 64 78 22, GSM: +47 95 92 46 77
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Re: ezmlm...

2000-11-22 Thread David Dyer-Bennet

Marc-Adrian Napoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 22 November 2000 at 17:53:10 +1100
  hi,
  
  does anyone know how to set ezmlm up for a particular mailing list so only
  people subscribed can send to it?
  
  (and then a way for me to close off the mailing list so no one can
  subscribe, leaving new additions to be done by me from the command line of
  the mail server?)

Are you using ezmlm + idx, or bare ezmlm?  If bare ezmlm, my first
advice is to install the idx "patch" (VERY major enhancement).

If running idx, then use the -u and -s switches to ezmlm-make to make
it subscription-moderated and subscriber-only.
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Re: Starting qmail: problem with svscan

2000-11-22 Thread Joao Costa

 Should the service directory have any file? My service directory has
 none.

 /var/qmail/supervise should have qmail-send and qmail-smtpd
 subdirectories.

I have both subdirectories on /var/qmail/supervise.

--
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Re: Starting qmail: problem with svscan

2000-11-22 Thread Joao Costa

 I have installed qmail by following the steps that Dave Sill provides
 in his web-site (http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html). Still, when
 I try to start qmail I get the following error message continuously:
 
 -n Starting qmail: svscan
 /etc/init.d/qmail: /var/qmail/run/svscan.pid: cannot create

 Hmm. What platform are you running on? The "-n" is an BSD vs. Sys V
 thing, and is ugly, but won't prevent the script from working. I don't
 know where you got /var/qmail/run/svscan.pid from, though, because the
 script in LWQ uses /var/run/svscan.pid. But even that's not enough to
 cause the following:

I am running on SunOS 5.6.

 supervise: fatal: unable to acquire qmail-send/supervise/lock: access denied
 supervise: fatal: unable to acquire log/supervise/lock: access denied
 supervise: fatal: unable to acquire qmail-smtpd/supervise/lock: access denied
 supervise: fatal: unable to acquire log/supervise/lock: access denied

 What does the following show:

   ls -lR /var/qmail/supervise

/var/qmail/supervise:
total 4
drwxr-xr-t   4 root other512 Nov 14 17:25 qmail-send
drwxr-xr-t   4 root other512 Nov 14 17:26 qmail-smtpd

/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send:
total 6
drwxr-xr-x   3 root other512 Nov 14 17:26 log
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root other 29 Nov 14 17:00 run
drwx--   2 root other512 Nov 15 12:13 supervise

/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send/log:
total 4
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root other 88 Nov 14 17:01 run
drwx--   2 root other512 Nov 15 12:13 supervise

/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send/log/supervise:
total 2
prw---   1 root other  0 Nov 14 18:26 control
-rw---   1 root other  0 Nov 14 18:26 lock
prw---   1 root other  0 Nov 14 17:26 ok
-rw-r--r--   1 root other 18 Nov 15 12:13 status

/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send/supervise:
total 2
prw---   1 root other  0 Nov 14 18:26 control
-rw---   1 root other  0 Nov 14 18:26 lock
prw---   1 root other  0 Nov 14 17:25 ok
-rw-r--r--   1 root other 18 Nov 15 12:13 status

/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd:
total 6
drwxr-xr-x   3 root other512 Nov 14 17:26 log
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root other339 Nov 14 17:03 run
drwx--   2 root other512 Nov 15 12:13 supervise

/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/log:
total 4
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root other 94 Nov 14 17:05 run
drwx--   2 root other512 Nov 15 12:13 supervise

/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/log/supervise:
total 2
prw---   1 root other  0 Nov 14 18:26 control
-rw---   1 root other  0 Nov 14 18:26 lock
prw---   1 root other  0 Nov 14 17:26 ok
-rw-r--r--   1 root other 18 Nov 15 12:13 status

/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/supervise:
total 2
prw---   1 root other  0 Nov 14 18:26 control
-rw---   1 root other  0 Nov 14 18:26 lock
prw---   1 root other  0 Nov 14 17:26 ok
-rw-r--r--   1 root other 18 Nov 15 12:13 status

   ls -ld / /var /var/qmail /var/qmail/supervise

drwxr-xr-x  26 root root1024 Nov 14 16:02 /
drwxrwxrwt  23 root sys  512 Oct 31 17:01 /var
drwxr-xr-x   9 root qmail512 Nov 14 17:56 /var/qmail
drwxr-xr-x   4 root other512 Nov 14 16:58 /var/qmail/supervise

 What is svscan suppose to do?

 It monitors the service directory and runs "supervise" on services as
 needed.

 How can I get the parameters of svscan
 (read svscan's instructions)?

 LWQ has a section on daemontool which contains a link to the on-line
 documentation:

   http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#daemontools

--
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Hostname Lookup

2000-11-22 Thread Warren Small

I installed qmail for the first time about a month ago and set it up as a
test central mail hub for some of our servers. It was working fine until
recently when I started seeing this:

--Q-ID-- --Size-- -Q-Time- Sender/Recipient
HAA17817   73 Wed Nov 22 07:45 warren
 (Deferred: Name server: qmail.mainstream.net: host name
looku)
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(Yes, this is a sendmail mailq...)

I'm sure a lot of you will say that the problem is obviously a DNS lookup
issue but I can lookup this server name successfully from the same server
that is having problems talking to the qmail server. This problem is also
not confined to one server and I can change the configuration to send the
mail to our current mail hub and it will be delivered successfully.

I have rebooted qmail.mainstream.net just so I could be sure the system was
initializing properly. I can send mail from qmail.mainstream.net
successfully. I have made no other changes to the server in the last month.
Here's what I have running:

 8603  p1- I  0:00.04 /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -l0 -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb
-v -u 6001 -g 601 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd
 8604  p1- I  0:00.04 /var/qmail/bin/splogger smtpd 3
  200  co- S  1:04.99 qmail-send
  206  co- I  0:36.87 splogger qmail
  207  co- S  0:11.08 qmail-lspawn |preline procmail
  208  co- S  0:57.81 qmail-rspawn
  209  co- I  0:00.75 qmail-clean

The logs on qmail don't seem to indicate that anything at all is getting to
the server. I can connect to qmail via telnet qmail.mainstream.net 25 and
get the expected response.

I'm not sure what else to check so any help would be appreciated.

Warren



lot of problems

2000-11-22 Thread Jesus Arnaiz

Hi there!

I installed qmail, tcpserver, vpopmail,  but it do not deliver mail well, it
put mails sended by the server well, but when you try to send something from
any server outside it, it fails, it don't show something in the maillog.

Anybody knows something about this?.

Thanks in advance.

Jesús Arnáiz.



missing tcp.smtp.cdb

2000-11-22 Thread Mate Wierdl

Many people worry about its existence.  While it is useful to have it,
you can make your tcpserver line conditionally use it if you include
the -X option:

tcpserver -v -c40 -X -x/etc/smtp.cdb ...

Mate



Re: Starting qmail: problem with svscan

2000-11-22 Thread Dave Sill

Joao Costa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have installed qmail by following the steps that Dave Sill provides
 in his web-site (http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html). Still, when
 I try to start qmail I get the following error message continuously:
 
 -n Starting qmail: svscan
 /etc/init.d/qmail: /var/qmail/run/svscan.pid: cannot create

 Hmm. What platform are you running on? The "-n" is an BSD vs. Sys V
 thing, and is ugly, but won't prevent the script from working. I don't
 know where you got /var/qmail/run/svscan.pid from, though, because the
 script in LWQ uses /var/run/svscan.pid. But even that's not enough to
 cause the following:

I am running on SunOS 5.6.

You can replace the

  echo -n "blah blah blah: "

with

  echo "blah blah blah: \c"

I'm still concerned about /var/qmail/run/svscan.pid
vs. /var/run/svscan.pid. Was this something you changed intentionally?

 supervise: fatal: unable to acquire qmail-send/supervise/lock: access denied
 supervise: fatal: unable to acquire log/supervise/lock: access denied
 supervise: fatal: unable to acquire qmail-smtpd/supervise/lock: access denied
 supervise: fatal: unable to acquire log/supervise/lock: access denied

 What does the following show:

   ls -lR /var/qmail/supervise

[snipped]

OK, that all looks good.

These are the same symptoms you get if you run "qmail start" twice
without a "qmail stop" in between. What does the following show:

  qmail stat
  ps -ef |grep qmail

-Dave



Re: Hostname Lookup

2000-11-22 Thread Andy Bradford

On Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:21:10 EST, Warren Small wrote:

 I'm sure a lot of you will say that the problem is obviously a DNS lookup
 issue but I can lookup this server name successfully from the same server
 that is having problems talking to the qmail server. This problem is also
 not confined to one server and I can change the configuration to send the
 mail to our current mail hub and it will be delivered successfully.

I hate to state the obvious, but yes, it is obviously a problem with 
DNS.  Sure, the hostname resolves fine, but your DNS does not return an 
MX for it.  See results below:

[andy@mail andy]$ dnsmx qmail.mainstream.net
dnsmx: fatal: unable to find MX records for qmail.mainstream.net: temporary failure

This should, in the very least return a preference of 0 for the server 
itself.  Instead it is failing---something is misconfigured in your 
DNS.  The same results can be found with dig:

[andy@mail andy]$ dig qmail.mainstream.net mx
;  DiG 8.1  qmail.mainstream.net mx 
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 40425
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUERY SECTION:
;;  qmail.mainstream.net, type = MX, class = IN

Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe it is a 
problem with DNS. :-)

Andy




Re: Adding CR to bare LFs

2000-11-22 Thread andrew

 bundle of other unix browsers I'm sure.  Is there a way I can have qmail 
 automatically convert bare LFs to CRLFs?  This would be *very* helpful.  

Hi,

I'm not sure if someone replied to this already: Answer, use fixcrio from ucspi-tcp - 
see
the cr.yp.to site for this. Search on 'fixcr' or 'fixcrio' on the archive of this list 
for
more details.

cheers,

Andrew.




Re: Problems starting qmail

2000-11-22 Thread Dave Sill

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've just re-installed qmail following the procedures in 'Life with qmail'.
When I use the command /usr/local/sbin/qmail start I get :-

Starting qmail: svscan.
:No such file or directory
:No such file or directory
:No such file or directory
:No such file or directory
...recursively

What platform is this?

What is the output of this:

  ls -lR /var/qmail/supervise

Do I need to use maildirmake for each user ? or is this done
automatically if a mail is recieved for a valid username ?

You need to do the maildirmake for each existing user *as that
user*. For new users, you might be able to do a maildirmake in the
skeleton (template) directory used by your system's adduser/useradd
utility, q.v.

-Dave



Re: Quicky mail list

2000-11-22 Thread Robin S. Socha

* Tim Burden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 1.  (*) text/plain ( ) message/external-body
  ^ What is this?

 Using most recent versions of qmail and vpopmail on a RH6.0 thingy 

...which is extremely insecure because it contains lots of software with
security holes the size of Redmond...

 I have a customer "hutch" on a virtual domain who wants to be able to
 easily mail news on specials to his previous customers. 

http://www.ezmlm.org/, look for moderated lists. ezmlm has its own mailing list.
-- 
Robin S. Socha http://socha.net/



Re: Has anyone created a Web Admin module for qmail ?

2000-11-22 Thread Robin S. Socha

* Ørjan Vøllestad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 www.webadmin.com doesn't work...

Great. How about exchaning the information (1) and signature (11) ratio?
It sure works for me.
-- 
Robin S. Socha http://socha.net/



Re: Starting qmail: problem with svscan

2000-11-22 Thread Joao Costa

qmail stat
 
 qmail: command not found

 Make that:

   /usr/local/sbin/qmail stat

/var/qmail/supervise: does not exist

ps -ef |grep qmail
 
 qmailr  2099  2096  0   Nov 14 ?0:00 qmail-rspawn
   qmaild  2087  2082  0   Nov 14 ?0:00 /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -p -x
 /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c 20 -u 1040 -g 107 0 smtp
 root  2710  2471  1 18:46:53 pts/00:00 grep qmail
 root  2080  1641  0   Nov 14 ?0:01 supervise qmail-send
   qmaill  2085  2081  0   Nov 14 ?0:00 /usr/local/bin/multilog t
 /var/log/qmail
 root  2082  1641  0   Nov 14 ?0:01 supervise qmail-smtpd
   qmaill  2089  2083  0   Nov 14 ?0:00 /usr/local/bin/multilog t
 /var/log/qmail/smtpd
   qmails  2096  2080  0   Nov 14 ?0:00 qmail-send
 root  2098  2096  0   Nov 14 ?0:00 qmail-lspawn ./Maildir
   qmailq  2100  2096  0   Nov 14 ?0:00 qmail-clean

 That looks good, and shows that qamil has been running since Nov 14.

 So what's not working?

--
Joao Costa
==
  DevWeb






Re: Starting qmail: problem with svscan

2000-11-22 Thread Dave Sill

Joao Costa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   /usr/local/sbin/qmail stat

/var/qmail/supervise: does not exist

But obviously is does, since (1) everything is working, and (2) you
recently posted  the output of "ls -lR /var/qmail/supervise". Sounds
like your /usr/local/sbin/qmail script is corrupt. You might try
re-downloading it from:

  http://Web.InfoAve.net/~dsill/qmail-script-dt61.exe

-Dave



Problem with make setup check in Aix 4.3

2000-11-22 Thread Fernando Barreto


Hi...
I don't write english very well so, I'm sorry about any
mistakes...
 
I'm having a problem here to compile de qmail on Aix 4.3... when I
 did "make setup check", it generate this error after do some compilation:
 
 ./compile dns.c
dns.c:11: parse error before `int'
make: 1254-004 The error code from the last command is 1.
 
 
Stop.
 
 
This line is a "extern int h_errno;" 
What's the problem?? Anybody knowns?

I have already created the users like in INSTALL.ids...
 
Please... somebody can help me
Bye





Re: Hostname Lookup

2000-11-22 Thread Warren Small

Well, it turns out that there _was_ a problem in DNS but it is not the MX
record. The last time someone edited the zone file for mainstream.net, they
tried to comment a line with a # which, just about everywhere else, is
normal. In zone files, this is a big no-no and causes named to reject the
entire file. Hence, the problems with sending mail to the qmail server.

The thing that is weird is that I could send mail to our normal mail hub
(which is running sendmail). Is there something in qmail that would cause
this behavior? And why would nslookup resolve qmail.mainstream.net on the
same server that had trouble sending the mail? 

Warren

Andy Bradford wrote:
 
 On Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:21:10 EST, Warren Small wrote:
 
  I'm sure a lot of you will say that the problem is obviously a DNS lookup
  issue but I can lookup this server name successfully from the same server
  that is having problems talking to the qmail server. This problem is also
  not confined to one server and I can change the configuration to send the
  mail to our current mail hub and it will be delivered successfully.
 
 I hate to state the obvious, but yes, it is obviously a problem with
 DNS.  Sure, the hostname resolves fine, but your DNS does not return an
 MX for it.  See results below:
 
 [andy@mail andy]$ dnsmx qmail.mainstream.net
 dnsmx: fatal: unable to find MX records for qmail.mainstream.net: temporary failure
 
 This should, in the very least return a preference of 0 for the server
 itself.  Instead it is failing---something is misconfigured in your
 DNS.  The same results can be found with dig:
 
 [andy@mail andy]$ dig qmail.mainstream.net mx
 ;  DiG 8.1  qmail.mainstream.net mx
 ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
 ;; got answer:
 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 40425
 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
 ;; QUERY SECTION:
 ;;  qmail.mainstream.net, type = MX, class = IN
 
 Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe it is a
 problem with DNS. :-)
 
 Andy



Re: IMAP and Maildir

2000-11-22 Thread tim . hunter


I use Courier-IMAP almost exclusively with Outlook and Outlook Express,
seems to work with or without the workarounds enabled, just upgraded to
1.2.x but have been using successfully for over a year.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 01:01:55PM -0800, Nicholas Leonovich wrote:
  Courier-IMAP is working well with Maildir for me...
  http://www.inter7.com
 
 Does it play nice with Microsoft Outlook or Outlook Express?  The last
 time I checked this package, there was a statement to the effect that
 it didn't.
 
 Alternatively, can anyone point me at some useful instructions for
 getting UW-IMAP running with Maildir, since (in its default
 configuration), it (mostly) works with Outlook...
 
 Cheers,
 Roger.
 
 


Tim Hunter
CIMx
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.cimx.com



Re: Starting qmail: problem with svscan

2000-11-22 Thread Joao Costa

/usr/local/sbin/qmail stat
 
 /var/qmail/supervise: does not exist

 But obviously is does, since (1) everything is working, and (2) you
 recently posted  the output of "ls -lR /var/qmail/supervise". Sounds
 like your /usr/local/sbin/qmail script is corrupt. You might try
 re-downloading it from:

   http://Web.InfoAve.net/~dsill/qmail-script-dt61.exe

Thanks a lot Dave. I'll do it and I'll post you the result of it.


--
Joao Costa
==
  DevWeb






Need a pointer on unsubscribing

2000-11-22 Thread Stephen Smith


Where do I go to get information on unsubscribing to this list.  I have lost the email.

Stephen

-- 
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1955 E. Bluefield Ave.
Phoenix, AZ  85022
(602)971-9520



How do I unsubscib to this list?

2000-11-22 Thread Stephen Smith


I have lost the information - sorry.

-- 
Stephen Smith
1955 E. Bluefield Ave.
Phoenix, AZ  85022
(602)971-9520



Re: IMAP and Maildir

2000-11-22 Thread Kris Kelley

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 01:01:55PM -0800, Nicholas Leonovich wrote:
  Courier-IMAP is working well with Maildir for me...
  http://www.inter7.com

 Does it play nice with Microsoft Outlook or Outlook Express?

I'm running Courier IMAP 1.2.3 and accessing it with Outlook Express 5 on a
Win2K system.  So far, no complaints whatsoever.

It's been a while since I looked closely at the documentation concerning
client compatability, but the only real issue I remember reading about
Outlook is its annoying tendency to sometimes flood the server with IMAP
connections.  Courier IMAP has a way to limit the number of connections per
IP address, so this can be dealt with.

---Kris Kelley




Re: Quicky mail list

2000-11-22 Thread Tim Burden

What 'it' are you referring to?

-Original Message-
From: Robin S. Socha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: Quicky mail list


* Tim Burden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 1.  (*) text/plain ( ) message/external-body
  ^ What is this?

 Using most recent versions of qmail and vpopmail on a RH6.0 thingy

...which is extremely insecure because it contains lots of software with
security holes the size of Redmond...

 I have a customer "hutch" on a virtual domain who wants to be able to
 easily mail news on specials to his previous customers.

http://www.ezmlm.org/, look for moderated lists. ezmlm has its own mailing
list.
--
Robin S. Socha http://socha.net/





Proper way to start qmail-pop3d

2000-11-22 Thread Michael French

I wasn't sure what the best way to start qmail-pop3d, so this is how I
did it:
Created another directory under /var/qmail/supervise called
qmail-pop3d/
Put a run file in there that starts pop3 service.
Created a log directory under qmail-pop3d/ and put a run script for
logging in.

This seems to work just fine, I can pop in and get mail, BUT, my
question is: it doesn't stop the service when I go into /etc/rc.d/init.d/
and type qmail stop.  All of the other services stop except for the pop
service.  I have to manually kill them before I can restart qmail services.
I look in my qmail script for stoping/starting services and it looks like it
should kill everything out of /var/qmail/supervise, but it is not stopping
pop.  What have I missed?  Here is my qmail script:

#!/bin/sh
#

PATH=/var/qmail/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
export PATH

case "$1" in
  start)
echo -n "Starting qmail: svscan"
cd /var/qmail/supervise
env - PATH="$PATH" svscan 
echo $!  /var/run/svscan.pid
echo "."
;;
  stop)
echo -n "Stopping qmail: svscan"
kill `cat /var/run/svscan.pid`
echo -n " qmail"
svc -dx /var/qmail/supervise/*
echo -n " logging"
svc -dx /var/qmail/supervise/*/log
echo "."
;;
  stat)
cd /var/qmail/supervise
svstat * */log
;;
  doqueue|alrm)
echo "Sending ALRM signal to qmail-send."
svc -a /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send
;;
  queue)
qmail-qstat
qmail-qread
;;
  reload|hup)
echo "Sending HUP signal to qmail-send."
svc -h /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send
;;
  pause)
echo "Pausing qmail-send"
svc -p /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send
echo "Pausing qmail-smtpd"
svc -p /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd
;;
  cont)
echo "Continuing qmail-send"
svc -c /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send
echo "Continuing qmail-smtpd"
svc -c /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd
;;
  restart)
echo "Restarting qmail:"
echo "* Stopping qmail-smtpd."
svc -d /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd
echo "* Sending qmail-send SIGTERM and restarting."
svc -t /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send
echo "* Restarting qmail-smtpd."
svc -u /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd
;;
  cdb)
tcprules /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb /etc/tcp.smtp.tmp  /etc/tcp.smtp
chmod 644 /etc/tcp.smtp*
echo "Reloaded /etc/tcp.smtp."
;;
  help)
cat HELP
   stop -- stops mail service (smtp connections refused, nothing goes out)
  start -- starts mail service (smtp connection accepted, mail can go out)
  pause -- temporarily stops mail service (connections accepted, nothing
leaves)
   cont -- continues paused mail service
   stat -- displays status of mail service
cdb -- rebuild the tcpserver cdb file for smtp
restart -- stops and restarts smtp, sends qmail-send a TERM  restarts it
doqueue -- sends qmail-send ALRM, scheduling queued messages for delivery
 reload -- sends qmail-send HUP, rereading locals and virtualdomains
  queue -- shows status of queue
   alrm -- same as doqueue
hup -- same as reload
HELP
;;
  *)
echo "Usage: $0
{start|stop|restart|doqueue|reload|stat|pause|cont|cdb|queue|help}"
exit 1
;;
esac

exit 0

Michael French
Asheville Citizen-Times
IT Dept.




Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-22 Thread Raul Miller

On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 10:07:00PM -0500, Al wrote:
 Not a lawyer but when you put something onto a web page you have
 conformed to a well known pattern that would expect an action to take
 place. For example if I put a stack of leaflets on the counter of a
 local store that said "Rumage sale next Week" and gave an address of
 where to go I do not think that you would have much luck charging
 someone who took a leaflet with stealing. Even though the leaflet does
 not say "take one".

Picking up a leaflet does not involve making a copy of it.

Pulling something off of a web site involves creating a copy on your
local machine.

 Another thing that might make a difference would be some of the rulings that
 came about when Sony was sued for the personal video recorder. What rights
 do you have to record a broadcast program? Is the Internet (or part of the
 Internet's functionality) a defacto agreement to allow the copying of
 certain files (i.e. index.html /pub etc)?

Are you suggesting only certain file names are legal to browse?

-- 
Raul



mail.info file size

2000-11-22 Thread Chris Olson

Is there a way to limit the size of the /var/log/mail/mail.info file
that qmail generates?
--
Chris



Qmail and RedHat7

2000-11-22 Thread m

I have installed Qmail before on earlier versions of RedHat and
Mandrake. But this time I am getting the following error messages on the
new RedHat7;

Nov 22 15:42:44 digitalp2 svscan: svc: warning: unable to control
/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send: file does not exist
Nov 22 15:42:44 digitalp2 svscan: svc: warning: unable to control
/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd: file does not exist
Nov 22 15:42:44 digitalp2 svscan: svc: warning: unable to control
/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send/log: file does not exist
Nov 22 15:42:44 digitalp2 svscan: svc: warning: unable to control
/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/log: file does not exist

I have checked and made sure that no Sendmail or other pop mail are
running. Basically I follow the Adam D. McKenna qmail HOWTO.

A search of Google and the mailing archives points to someone having
problems with older daemontools, I am using 0.70.

At this stage I am not sure where else to look, any help would be most
welcome.
(has anyone installed qmail on RedHat7 yet...it did seem to compile ok)

Thanks
Malcolm




Re: Courier or qmail

2000-11-22 Thread Matt Brown

Sean Reifschneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I was kind of put off by the rejection of my message to the Courier
 mailing list.  I detailed what all I had done and what the failure
 was.  I wasn't interested in subscribing, sending the message, then
 unsubscribing.  Whatever.

I don't think it's unreasonable for a mailing list to only accept mail
from subscribers.  Why you expect this is beyond me -- YOUR laziness
is not their problem, especially when the reason mailing lists do this
is to avoid transmitting spam.

-Matt

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| 1983 W. 190th St, Suite 100, Torrance CA 90504  |
|  Phone: (310) 538-7122|  Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  |
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Sqwebmail password problems

2000-11-22 Thread Roberto Samarone Araujo \(RSA\)

Hi,

I set up sqwebmail and it is working fine with Qmail but, I have a
problem. When I add an user to my system, he/she can use webmail using the
his/her password from the password file of the system. If an user change
this password, he/she need to change the password of the sqwebmail otherwise
he/she will need to use the old password to access the webmail.
Are there any way to keep the user webmail password up date from the
password file of the system ??
Sorry to this question about sqwebmail.

thanks,

Roberto Samarone Araujo





Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-22 Thread David L. Nicol


 Instead, it poses the question: do you have the legal right to use the
 web, in the absence of explicit copyright notices on every document
 element you encounter?


Laws are never about what is allowed.  Laws are about what is prohibited.



Re: Qmail and RedHat7

2000-11-22 Thread Sean Reifschneider

On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 05:46:44PM -0800, m wrote:
(has anyone installed qmail on RedHat7 yet...it did seem to compile ok)

I've done 4 or 5 installs on KRUD 7, which is RedHat 7 + the errata.
Are you using the RPMs from http://www.em.ca/~bruceg/qmail+patches/

They worked fine for me.  Too bad we can't just put up the pre-compiled
binaries, eh?

Sean
-- 
 Q:  What kind of dog goes "BOFH!  BOFH!"?
 A:  A rootweiler
Sean Reifschneider, Inimitably Superfluous [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tummy.com - Linux Consulting since 1995. Qmail, KRUD, Firewalls, Python



Re: Qmail and RedHat7

2000-11-22 Thread m

I did not use the RPM's. I compiled the source code from scratch. I guess I
will give those a try.

Sean Reifschneider wrote:

 On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 05:46:44PM -0800, m wrote:
 (has anyone installed qmail on RedHat7 yet...it did seem to compile ok)

 I've done 4 or 5 installs on KRUD 7, which is RedHat 7 + the errata.
 Are you using the RPMs from http://www.em.ca/~bruceg/qmail+patches/

 They worked fine for me.  Too bad we can't just put up the pre-compiled
 binaries, eh?

 Sean
 --
  Q:  What kind of dog goes "BOFH!  BOFH!"?
  A:  A rootweiler
 Sean Reifschneider, Inimitably Superfluous [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 tummy.com - Linux Consulting since 1995. Qmail, KRUD, Firewalls, Python




Re: Qmail and RedHat7

2000-11-22 Thread Romeyn Prescott

At 4:54 PM -0700 11/22/00, Sean Reifschneider wrote:
On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 05:46:44PM -0800, m wrote:
(has anyone installed qmail on RedHat7 yet...it did seem to compile ok)

I've done 4 or 5 installs on KRUD 7, which is RedHat 7 + the errata.
Are you using the RPMs from http://www.em.ca/~bruceg/qmail+patches/

They worked fine for me.  Too bad we can't just put up the pre-compiled
binaries, eh?


I'm a complete qmail newbie, and I just (finally) successfully 
installed qmail on a brand-new RH7 installation.  I had problems, but 
I can attribute all of them to my own impatience and failure to RTFM.

...ROMeyn
-- 


signat-url: http://www2.potsdam.edu/dctm/prescor/signat-url.htm
cubiclecam: http://digirom.potsdam.edu/~prescor/cubiclecam.html
^^^ --- New and improved!



Re: ezmlm...

2000-11-22 Thread Marc-Adrian Napoli

david,

 Marc-Adrian Napoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 22 November 2000 at
17:53:10 +1100
   hi,
  
   does anyone know how to set ezmlm up for a particular mailing list so
only
   people subscribed can send to it?
  
   (and then a way for me to close off the mailing list so no one can
   subscribe, leaving new additions to be done by me from the command line
of
   the mail server?)

 Are you using ezmlm + idx, or bare ezmlm?  If bare ezmlm, my first
 advice is to install the idx "patch" (VERY major enhancement).

 If running idx, then use the -u and -s switches to ezmlm-make to make
 it subscription-moderated and subscriber-only.

yup im running ezmlmidx and i've just installed (thanks to daniel dagneaux
for this tip) the ezmlm-web interface to my mailing lists.

its a great litte package if anyone else is thinking of using it, its
located at:

http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~guy/ezmlm/#ezmlm-web

and its those -u and -s switches that i need! perfect!

Regards,

Marc-Adrian Napoli
Network Admin
Connect Infobahn Australia
+61 2 9212 0387




Re: mail.info file size

2000-11-22 Thread Peter Green

* Chris Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001122 17:45]:
 Is there a way to limit the size of the /var/log/mail/mail.info file
 that qmail generates?

That sounds like a syslog file; if it isn't, you'll have to specify what it
is before we can help. Anyway, if it's syslog, I don't think there is a way
to limit it. You can, however, save yourself this and many other headaches
by using multilog, part of the daemontools package (also by djb). You'll be
glad you did. :)

/pg
-- 
Peter Green : Gospel Communications Network, SysAdmin : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
---
Sometimes when I feel like killing someone, I do a little trick to calm myself 
down. I'll go over to the persons house and ring the doorbell. When the person 
comes to the door, I'm gone, but you know what I've left on the porch? A 
jack-o-lantern with a knife stuck in the side of it's head with a note that 
says: 'You.' After that I usually feel a lot better, and no harm done.
 (Jack Handey)




RE: secrets and lies

2000-11-22 Thread Al

 On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 10:07:00PM -0500, Al wrote:
  Not a lawyer but when you put something onto a web page you have
  conformed to a well known pattern that would expect an
 action to take
  place. For example if I put a stack of leaflets on the counter of a
  local store that said "Rumage sale next Week" and gave an address of
  where to go I do not think that you would have much luck charging
  someone who took a leaflet with stealing. Even though the
 leaflet does
  not say "take one".

 Picking up a leaflet does not involve making a copy of it.

Right, taking something that is not yours would be stealing, which is what I
said. The point is that when things are set up in well understood way there
is an implied agreement or permission. If you put a file on a server and
configure the http daemon to copy and transmit the file when requested you
have granted permission.


 Pulling something off of a web site involves creating a copy on your
 local machine.


No, reading a CD-ROM on my own drive and putting the contents on my hard
disk would be _me_ making a copy. Your (their, his, her) server reading a
file into memory and then sending the image across the network is a
different thing:

1) The http and/or ftp daemon was configured to perform this task. The file
must be in a location the server software can access. It required deliberate
action.

2) There is no attempt to hide or protect the files, on the contrary. The
files are placed in a location that by published standards can be be
accessed

3) This is not the same thing as leaving a door open on my house. There are
clear instructions on the web pages that show exactly where the software is
located and how to make the copy.


 Are you suggesting only certain file names are legal to browse?


I am saying that there are well known standards that create an implied
consent. If I ftp to a server and enter a user name of 'ftp' and it responds
'anonomyous logins permitted' then by convention I may access the /pub
directory and have the server send me a copy of the files that it makes. By
the same standards I may not use a defect in the ftp daemon and fetch
/etc/shadow.

If I connect to port 80 of a machine and its http daemon makes a copy of
index.html I understand that this is happening with the consent of the
server operator.

-
"One of the best examples of pure democracy in action is the lynch mob"
- AA4YU





Help! Emergency

2000-11-22 Thread James Moore

I setup a list wrong and now people are responding to the list (was 
supposed to be a newsletter type list for an online store), so the 
responses are going to about 60,000 people.  Not good.  I have killed the 
box for now.  I have deleted the list, how can I clean out the queue so 
these message will not go out to all these folks when I fire the box back up.

V/r
Jay



Announce: Automatic mail archiving

2000-11-22 Thread Sean Reifschneider

I've just put together a package for automaticly managing mailing list
archives.  The idea being that at times it's nice to save a copy of mail
from a list for later review.

This system uses QMail extensions, Python, MHonArc, and PHP (for dynamicly
generating the archive indexes) to do this.  Assuming you have the above
(lengthy) list of requirements satisfied, autoarch can be set up in under
a minute.

Mail sent to "user-autoarch-listname" will then get archived, including
web interface (if you have MHonArc and Apache or the like).  The first
message coming in creates a new archive.

Available at ftp://ftp.tummy.com/pub/tummy/autoarch/

If anyone has any ideas on how to make it reasonably secure...  ;-)
If you keep the archives private, it should be fine.  It would be nice
to get Google to index them, but that means that your "secret" auto-archive
address is available.  I suppose I could set up some lock-downs so that
the directory had to be created first, and/or the first message sent to
it would limit where messages could come from in the future...

Sean
-- 
 A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops.
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Sean Reifschneider, Inimitably Superfluous [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tummy.com - Linux Consulting since 1995. Qmail, KRUD, Firewalls, Python



problems with the spamcontrol patch

2000-11-22 Thread Charles Warwick
Title: problems with the spamcontrol patch





Hi,


I have installed the spamcontrol patch to a base install of Q-Mail and most things seem to work fine.


However, there is one problem. When I put in an invalid senders (MAIL FROM) address to a SMTP connection, it closes the connection and does not report any message either in the logs or to the client itself. However, if I use the SMTP connection to send a valid e-mail first, and then try to send one with an invalid senders address on the same connection, it logs correctly to both client and log. All other log messages (i.e. not allowed to relay) work fine. And if I include a 'nodnscheck' file with the sender's domain, the mail goes through fine.

Any ideas as to what might be going wrong? I have installed q-mail 1.03 several times with and without other patches to ensure no other patches were affecting it.

Regards,


Charles Warwick



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