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Thank You Erie. Yes George Ryan. Not George Thompson or Jim Thompson. It was a long day yesterday in Gilman, IL. Best Wishes In a message dated 9/5/2013 12:30:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time, c5sc...@gmail.com writes: Ryan...Gov George Ryan _c5sci97@gmail.com_ (mailto:c5sc...@gmail.com) - Original Message - From: _wheelchair@aol.com_ (mailto:wheelch...@aol.com) To: _lwillis821@yahoo.com_ (mailto:lwillis...@yahoo.com) ; _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal Devil's Advocate- If you have title to your own vehicle and your own private insurance... the risk is all yours. If you don't have title to your vehicle or if you are a co-partner or are piggy-backing on someone else's policy, they too share the risk, at your expense. In the United States, there are approx 25 valid reasons any insurance company can drop a holder/insured. Most of the majors will only use the top 3 reasons. Committing a Felony using a vehicle DUI Leaving the scene of an crash scene involving a fatality. Within those other 23 reasons are: Failure to inform or misinformation. I guess, as long as nothing happens or goes wrong.. who really cares. Its only after something serious happens and the lawyers get involve and begin asking those serious questions. I know of one Illinois Gov. George Thompson who sat in a central Indiana prison for 5 years. At issue was a foreign national who didn't speak English was issues a CDL to drive a truck on the highway. The flatbed trailer was defective and dropped its bumper on the highway, in front of a speeding car carrying a family of 5. Upon impact, the car burst into flames and the family perished. Former Gov George Thompson, sat in prison, unable to attend his wife's wake or funeral. Who would have thought that would have happened, if not for that one event. Be Safe! Best Wishes In a message dated 9/4/2013 12:11:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, lwillis...@yahoo.com writes: I had to attend a one day driving school and retake the test. It had been 10 years and I was 27. I have a slew of restrictions on my license but have never told my insurance. They have never questioned me about it despite a couple of fender benders.
[QUAD-L] Driver license renewal
I got my drivers license on my 16th birthday, just a regular class C with no restrictions. I was injured at 17, but never made any changes to my license, even for the years that I was using hand controls. Recently I went to change the address online and ran across this question... * Have you ever had seizures, fainting, heart trouble, hearing problems, musculoskeletal performance problems, or respiratory function problems? So my question is when I say yes to this, what do you all think this will trigger? Another driving test? Todd C-6inc
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Dont check any of those boxes. Its going to make you have to retake the drivers test, raise your insurance and make your life more difficult. Only a fool would open that pandoras box. No body cares if you use hand controls or have any of those troubles, its your driving record that counts..leave this alone. Ron Pracht From: Todd Daugherty todd.daughe...@gmail.com To: quad list quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:32 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal I got my drivers license on my 16th birthday, just a regular class C with no restrictions. I was injured at 17, but never made any changes to my license, even for the years that I was using hand controls. Recently I went to change the address online and ran across this question... * Have you ever had seizures, fainting, heart trouble, hearing problems, musculoskeletal performance problems, or respiratory function problems? So my question is when I say yes to this, what do you all think this will trigger? Another driving test? Todd C-6inc
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Well, how about from the car insurer perspective, any chance they use this to deny a future claim? I just said no and moved on. On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 11:37 AM, RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.netwrote: Dont check any of those boxes. Its going to make you have to retake the drivers test, raise your insurance and make your life more difficult. Only a fool would open that pandoras box. No body cares if you use hand controls or have any of those troubles, its your driving record that counts..leave this alone. Ron Pracht *From:* Todd Daugherty todd.daughe...@gmail.com *To:* quad list quad-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:32 AM *Subject:* [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal I got my drivers license on my 16th birthday, just a regular class C with no restrictions. I was injured at 17, but never made any changes to my license, even for the years that I was using hand controls. Recently I went to change the address online and ran across this question... * Have you ever had seizures, fainting, heart trouble, hearing problems, musculoskeletal performance problems, or respiratory function problems? So my question is when I say yes to this, what do you all think this will trigger? Another driving test? Todd C-6inc
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They have no reason to suspect anything. Its not going to affect your insurance coverage. I cant see it affecting a claim. You have no idea the hell you will unleash by checking boxes, you will have to get check ups, doc releases, retake test.then your insurance may drop you . Im sure there will be people on the list that will want you to check all the boxes, in the end its your life, your choice. Isnt being a quad a challenge enough without creating problems? Ron From: Todd Daugherty todd.daughe...@gmail.com To: RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal Well, how about from the car insurer perspective, any chance they use this to deny a future claim? I just said no and moved on. On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 11:37 AM, RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Dont check any of those boxes. Its going to make you have to retake the drivers test, raise your insurance and make your life more difficult. Only a fool would open that pandoras box. No body cares if you use hand controls or have any of those troubles, its your driving record that counts..leave this alone. Ron Pracht From: Todd Daugherty todd.daughe...@gmail.com To: quad list quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:32 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal I got my drivers license on my 16th birthday, just a regular class C with no restrictions. I was injured at 17, but never made any changes to my license, even for the years that I was using hand controls. Recently I went to change the address online and ran across this question... * Have you ever had seizures, fainting, heart trouble, hearing problems, musculoskeletal performance problems, or respiratory function problems? So my question is when I say yes to this, what do you all think this will trigger? Another driving test? Todd C-6inc
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I had to attend a one day driving school and retake the test. It had been 10 years and I was 27. I have a slew of restrictions on my license but have never told my insurance. They have never questioned me about it despite a couple of fender benders. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com From: Todd Daugherty todd.daughe...@gmail.com Date: September 4, 2013, 11:32:13 AM EDT To: quad list quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal I got my drivers license on my 16th birthday, just a regular class C with no restrictions. I was injured at 17, but never made any changes to my license, even for the years that I was using hand controls. Recently I went to change the address online and ran across this question... * Have you ever had seizures, fainting, heart trouble, hearing problems, musculoskeletal performance problems, or respiratory function problems? So my question is when I say yes to this, what do you all think this will trigger? Another driving test? Todd C-6inc
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i went thru drivng specialist to get my hand controls. i had to take new test. only restriction that i have is automatic transmission. states have different laws. my insurance said that it was illegal for them to charge me more because of disability. i only pay 460/year on full coverage but i do not believe/trust any insurance company. they will find a way to screw you when u file a claim. dw On 9/4/2013 12:30 PM, RONALD L PRACHT wrote: They have no reason to suspect anything. Its not going to affect your insurance coverage. I cant see it affecting a claim. You have no idea the hell you will unleash by checking boxes, you will have to get check ups, doc releases, retake test.then your insurance may drop you . Im sure there will be people on the list that will want you to check all the boxes, in the end its your life, your choice. Isnt being a quad a challenge enough without creating problems? Ron *From:* Todd Daugherty todd.daughe...@gmail.com *To:* RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net *Cc:* quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:52 AM *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal Well, how about from the car insurer perspective, any chance they use this to deny a future claim? I just said no and moved on. On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 11:37 AM, RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net mailto:r.pra...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Dont check any of those boxes. Its going to make you have to retake the drivers test, raise your insurance and make your life more difficult. Only a fool would open that pandoras box. No body cares if you use hand controls or have any of those troubles, its your drivingrecord that counts..leave this alone. Ron Pracht *From:* Todd Daugherty todd.daughe...@gmail.com mailto:todd.daughe...@gmail.com *To:* quad list quad-list@eskimo.com mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:32 AM *Subject:* [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal I got my drivers license on my 16th birthday, just a regular class C with no restrictions. I was injured at 17, but never made any changes to my license, even for the years that I was using hand controls. Recently I went to change the address online and ran across this question... * Have you ever had seizures, fainting, heart trouble, hearing problems, musculoskeletal performance problems, or respiratory function problems? So my question is when I say yes to this, what do you all think this will trigger? Another driving test? Todd C-6inc
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I went to Shepherd Center recently and did their driving test and got an rx for hand controls but they were to costly. I have been driving without them for about a decade now with no incidents so I think I will let sleeping dogs lie. I'm in Georgia btw. On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Derrick Winegardner whe...@cvn.net wrote: i went thru drivng specialist to get my hand controls. i had to take new test. only restriction that i have is automatic transmission. states have different laws. my insurance said that it was illegal for them to charge me more because of disability. i only pay 460/year on full coverage but i do not believe/trust any insurance company. they will find a way to screw you when u file a claim. dw On 9/4/2013 12:30 PM, RONALD L PRACHT wrote: They have no reason to suspect anything. Its not going to affect your insurance coverage. I cant see it affecting a claim. You have no idea the hell you will unleash by checking boxes, you will have to get check ups, doc releases, retake test.then your insurance may drop you . Im sure there will be people on the list that will want you to check all the boxes, in the end its your life, your choice. Isnt being a quad a challenge enough without creating problems? Ron *From:* Todd Daugherty todd.daughe...@gmail.comtodd.daughe...@gmail.com *To:* RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net r.pra...@sbcglobal.net *Cc:* quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.comquad-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:52 AM *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal Well, how about from the car insurer perspective, any chance they use this to deny a future claim? I just said no and moved on. On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 11:37 AM, RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.netwrote: Dont check any of those boxes. Its going to make you have to retake the drivers test, raise your insurance and make your life more difficult. Only a fool would open that pandoras box. No body cares if you use hand controls or have any of those troubles, its your driving record that counts..leave this alone. Ron Pracht *From:* Todd Daugherty todd.daughe...@gmail.com *To:* quad list quad-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:32 AM *Subject:* [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal I got my drivers license on my 16th birthday, just a regular class C with no restrictions. I was injured at 17, but never made any changes to my license, even for the years that I was using hand controls. Recently I went to change the address online and ran across this question... * Have you ever had seizures, fainting, heart trouble, hearing problems, musculoskeletal performance problems, or respiratory function problems? So my question is when I say yes to this, what do you all think this will trigger? Another driving test? Todd C-6inc
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Some States are allowed to use one's driver's license as a Federal ID, for example, for flying and voting. If you present your new driver's license without a restriction and its challenged. Your insurance company knows of your physical conditions and limitations, I hope. It could be most embarrassing, should your license be flagged after all these years. I hope for you the best. Best Wishes In a message dated 9/4/2013 10:37:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, r.pra...@sbcglobal.net writes: Dont check any of those boxes. Its going to make you have to retake the drivers test, raise your insurance and make your life more difficult. Only a fool would open that pandoras box. No body cares if you use hand controls or have any of those troubles, its your driving record that counts..leave this alone. Ron Pracht From: Todd Daugherty todd.daughe...@gmail.com To: quad list quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:32 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal I got my drivers license on my 16th birthday, just a regular class C with no restrictions. I was injured at 17, but never made any changes to my license, even for the years that I was using hand controls. Recently I went to change the address online and ran across this question... * Have you ever had seizures, fainting, heart trouble, hearing problems, musculoskeletal performance problems, or respiratory function problems? So my question is when I say yes to this, what do you all think this will trigger? Another driving test? Todd C-6inc
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You can call the state by phone on the 800 number and ask before you complete your application. As long as you are presently a licensed driver and insured for all these years... you should have no issues. Best Wishes In a message dated 9/4/2013 10:33:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time, todd.daughe...@gmail.com writes: I got my drivers license on my 16th birthday, just a regular class C with no restrictions. I was injured at 17, but never made any changes to my license, even for the years that I was using hand controls. Recently I went to change the address online and ran across this question... * Have you ever had seizures, fainting, heart trouble, hearing problems, musculoskeletal performance problems, or respiratory function problems? So my question is when I say yes to this, what do you all think this will trigger? Another driving test? Todd C-6inc
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I'm in California and have had my license for about 7 years. I had a regular license before my injury and it expired years later. When I got a van I could drive I applied for a new license. They did make me go through a few extra steps like a driving evaluation from a hospital and a DMV interview. After getting the ok I took the regular written and drivers test and passed with a 100 on both test. Since then I have only been pulled over once for running a stop sign and the cop looked at me and said Have a good day and let me go. I have also been in one accident that was deemed not my fault. My insurance didn't screw me or raise my rates. All of my repairs were fixed and I pay a average insurance rate. My license does have a restriction on it that says I must drive with hand controls. That is my experience so far with driving. I too will be renewing my license this year and I'm not sure if it will automatically renew or if I'll be tested again. But for the independence it gives me I'll do what ever I need too. I hope this helped in some way. Best wishes, Donald C5-C6 23 years post From: wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com To: r.pra...@sbcglobal.net; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal Some States are allowed to use one's driver's license as a Federal ID, for example, for flying and voting. If you present your new driver's license without a restriction and its challenged. Your insurance company knows of your physical conditions and limitations, I hope. It could be most embarrassing, should your license be flagged after all these years. I hope for you the best. Best Wishes In a message dated 9/4/2013 10:37:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, r.pra...@sbcglobal.net writes: Dont check any of those boxes. Its going to make you have to retake the drivers test, raise your insurance and make your life more difficult. Only a fool would open that pandoras box. No body cares if you use hand controls or have any of those troubles, its your driving record that counts..leave this alone. Ron Pracht From: Todd Daugherty todd.daughe...@gmail.com To: quad list quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:32 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal I got my drivers license on my 16th birthday, just a regular class C with no restrictions. I was injured at 17, but never made any changes to my license, even for the years that I was using hand controls. Recently I went to change the address online and ran across this question... * Have you ever had seizures, fainting, heart trouble, hearing problems, musculoskeletal performance problems, or respiratory function problems? So my question is when I say yes to this, what do you all think this will trigger? Another driving test? Todd C-6inc
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I wanted to add that my insurance company is aware of the fact that I drive from my wheelchair and I have several modification to my van. They said all is covered under my normal rate of payment. When I had my accident they proved it by repairing my van instead of just writing it off as a salvage loss. Due to all the money spent on modifications my van is worth more than the regular van of the same year. They paid close to 6,000 in repairs to the front end. Allstate is my insurance. From: donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal I'm in California and have had my license for about 7 years. I had a regular license before my injury and it expired years later. When I got a van I could drive I applied for a new license. They did make me go through a few extra steps like a driving evaluation from a hospital and a DMV interview. After getting the ok I took the regular written and drivers test and passed with a 100 on both test. Since then I have only been pulled over once for running a stop sign and the cop looked at me and said Have a good day and let me go. I have also been in one accident that was deemed not my fault. My insurance didn't screw me or raise my rates. All of my repairs were fixed and I pay a average insurance rate. My license does have a restriction on it that says I must drive with hand controls. That is my experience so far with driving. I too will be renewing my license this year and I'm not sure if it will automatically renew or if I'll be tested again. But for the independence it gives me I'll do what ever I need too. I hope this helped in some way. Best wishes, Donald C5-C6 23 years post From: wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com To: r.pra...@sbcglobal.net; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal Some States are allowed to use one's driver's license as a Federal ID, for example, for flying and voting. If you present your new driver's license without a restriction and its challenged. Your insurance company knows of your physical conditions and limitations, I hope. It could be most embarrassing, should your license be flagged after all these years. I hope for you the best. Best Wishes In a message dated 9/4/2013 10:37:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, r.pra...@sbcglobal.net writes: Dont check any of those boxes. Its going to make you have to retake the drivers test, raise your insurance and make your life more difficult. Only a fool would open that pandoras box. No body cares if you use hand controls or have any of those troubles, its your driving record that counts..leave this alone. Ron Pracht From: Todd Daugherty todd.daughe...@gmail.com To: quad list quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:32 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal I got my drivers license on my 16th birthday, just a regular class C with no restrictions. I was injured at 17, but never made any changes to my license, even for the years that I was using hand controls. Recently I went to change the address online and ran across this question... * Have you ever had seizures, fainting, heart trouble, hearing problems, musculoskeletal performance problems, or respiratory function problems? So my question is when I say yes to this, what do you all think this will trigger? Another driving test? Todd C-6inc
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I will add this. Cops dont know anything about hand controls or care to know. If you get pulled over , present license, insurance, registration and shut up unless your asked a question. You will be fine. Ron Pracht From: donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com To: donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com; quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal I wanted to add that my insurance company is aware of the fact that I drive from my wheelchair and I have several modification to my van. They said all is covered under my normal rate of payment. When I had my accident they proved it by repairing my van instead of just writing it off as a salvage loss. Due to all the money spent on modifications my van is worth more than the regular van of the same year. They paid close to 6,000 in repairs to the front end. Allstate is my insurance. From: donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal I'm in California and have had my license for about 7 years. I had a regular license before my injury and it expired years later. When I got a van I could drive I applied for a new license. They did make me go through a few extra steps like a driving evaluation from a hospital and a DMV interview. After getting the ok I took the regular written and drivers test and passed with a 100 on both test. Since then I have only been pulled over once for running a stop sign and the cop looked at me and said Have a good day and let me go. I have also been in one accident that was deemed not my fault. My insurance didn't screw me or raise my rates. All of my repairs were fixed and I pay a average insurance rate. My license does have a restriction on it that says I must drive with hand controls. That is my experience so far with driving. I too will be renewing my license this year and I'm not sure if it will automatically renew or if I'll be tested again. But for the independence it gives me I'll do what ever I need too. I hope this helped in some way. Best wishes, Donald C5-C6 23 years post From: wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com To: r.pra...@sbcglobal.net; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal Some States are allowed to use one's driver's license as a Federal ID, for example, for flying and voting. If you present your new driver's license without a restriction and its challenged. Your insurance company knows of your physical conditions and limitations, I hope. It could be most embarrassing, should your license be flagged after all these years. I hope for you the best. Best Wishes In a message dated 9/4/2013 10:37:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, r.pra...@sbcglobal.net writes: Dont check any of those boxes. Its going to make you have to retake the drivers test, raise your insurance and make your life more difficult. Only a fool would open that pandoras box. No body cares if you use hand controls or have any of those troubles, its your driving record that counts..leave this alone. Ron Pracht From: Todd Daugherty todd.daughe...@gmail.com To: quad list quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:32 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal I got my drivers license on my 16th birthday, just a regular class C with no restrictions. I was injured at 17, but never made any changes to my license, even for the years that I was using hand controls. Recently I went to change the address online and ran across this question... * Have you ever had seizures, fainting, heart trouble, hearing problems, musculoskeletal performance problems, or respiratory function problems? So my question is when I say yes to this, what do you all think this will trigger? Another driving test? Todd C-6inc
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I had to turn in the price of all my equipment even know I do not drive so it would be covered in case of an accident. I was required to do so I am AAA and on Farm Bureau my insurance previously. Dana In a message dated 9/4/2013 12:42:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rollingl...@yahoo.com writes: I wanted to add that my insurance company is aware of the fact that I drive from my wheelchair and I have several modification to my van. They said all is covered under my normal rate of payment. When I had my accident they proved it by repairing my van instead of just writing it off as a salvage loss. Due to all the money spent on modifications my van is worth more than the regular van of the same year. They paid close to 6,000 in repairs to the front end. Allstate is my insurance. From: donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal I'm in California and have had my license for about 7 years. I had a regular license before my injury and it expired years later. When I got a van I could drive I applied for a new license. They did make me go through a few extra steps like a driving evaluation from a hospital and a DMV interview. After getting the ok I took the regular written and drivers test and passed with a 100 on both test. Since then I have only been pulled over once for running a stop sign and the cop looked at me and said Have a good day and let me go. I have also been in one accident that was deemed not my fault. My insurance didn't screw me or raise my rates. All of my repairs were fixed and I pay a average insurance rate. My license does have a restriction on it that says I must drive with hand controls. That is my experience so far with driving. I too will be renewing my license this year and I'm not sure if it will automatically renew or if I'll be tested again. But for the independence it gives me I'll do what ever I need too. I hope this helped in some way. Best wishes, Donald C5-C6 23 years post From: wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com To: r.pra...@sbcglobal.net; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal Some States are allowed to use one's driver's license as a Federal ID, for example, for flying and voting. If you present your new driver's license without a restriction and its challenged. Your insurance company knows of your physical conditions and limitations, I hope. It could be most embarrassing, should your license be flagged after all these years. I hope for you the best. Best Wishes In a message dated 9/4/2013 10:37:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, r.pra...@sbcglobal.net writes: Dont check any of those boxes. Its going to make you have to retake the drivers test, raise your insurance and make your life more difficult. Only a fool would open that pandoras box. No body cares if you use hand controls or have any of those troubles, its your driving record that counts..leave this alone. Ron Pracht From: Todd Daugherty todd.daughe...@gmail.com To: quad list quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:32 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal I got my drivers license on my 16th birthday, just a regular class C with no restrictions. I was injured at 17, but never made any changes to my license, even for the years that I was using hand controls. Recently I went to change the address online and ran across this question... * Have you ever had seizures, fainting, heart trouble, hearing problems, musculoskeletal performance problems, or respiratory function problems? So my question is when I say yes to this, what do you all think this will trigger? Another driving test? Todd C-6inc
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When I was a cop, the only thing I would worry about is whether you were driving without the required equipment. I.e. if you have a restricted drivers license only allowing you to drive with hand controls, then there better be hand controls in the vehicle. If there is no restrictions, then there is no problems. That's the view from a former law enforcement officer. Then again, I haven't been doing that for 20 something years. On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:24 PM, RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.netwrote: I will add this. Cops dont know anything about hand controls or care to know. If you get pulled over , present license, insurance, registration and shut up unless your asked a question. You will be fine. Ron Pracht *From:* donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com *To:* donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com; quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 4, 2013 12:41 PM *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal I wanted to add that my insurance company is aware of the fact that I drive from my wheelchair and I have several modification to my van. They said all is covered under my normal rate of payment. When I had my accident they proved it by repairing my van instead of just writing it off as a salvage loss. Due to all the money spent on modifications my van is worth more than the regular van of the same year. They paid close to 6,000 in repairs to the front end. Allstate is my insurance. *From:* donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:27 AM *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal I'm in California and have had my license for about 7 years. I had a regular license before my injury and it expired years later. When I got a van I could drive I applied for a new license. They did make me go through a few extra steps like a driving evaluation from a hospital and a DMV interview. After getting the ok I took the regular written and drivers test and passed with a 100 on both test. Since then I have only been pulled over once for running a stop sign and the cop looked at me and said Have a good day and let me go. I have also been in one accident that was deemed not my fault. My insurance didn't screw me or raise my rates. All of my repairs were fixed and I pay a average insurance rate. My license does have a restriction on it that says I must drive with hand controls. That is my experience so far with driving. I too will be renewing my license this year and I'm not sure if it will automatically renew or if I'll be tested again. But for the independence it gives me I'll do what ever I need too. I hope this helped in some way. Best wishes, Donald C5-C6 23 years post *From:* wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com *To:* r.pra...@sbcglobal.net; quad-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 4, 2013 9:59 AM *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal Some States are allowed to use one's driver's license as a Federal ID, for example, for flying and voting. If you present your new driver's license without a restriction and its challenged. Your insurance company knows of your physical conditions and limitations, I hope. It could be most embarrassing, should your license be flagged after all these years. I hope for you the best. Best Wishes In a message dated 9/4/2013 10:37:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, r.pra...@sbcglobal.net writes: Dont check any of those boxes. Its going to make you have to retake the drivers test, raise your insurance and make your life more difficult. Only a fool would open that pandoras box. No body cares if you use hand controls or have any of those troubles, its your driving record that counts..leave this alone. Ron Pracht *From:* Todd Daugherty todd.daughe...@gmail.com *To:* quad list quad-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:32 AM *Subject:* [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal I got my drivers license on my 16th birthday, just a regular class C with no restrictions. I was injured at 17, but never made any changes to my license, even for the years that I was using hand controls. Recently I went to change the address online and ran across this question... * Have you ever had seizures, fainting, heart trouble, hearing problems, musculoskeletal performance problems, or respiratory function problems? So my question is when I say yes to this, what do you all think this will trigger? Another driving test? Todd C-6inc
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Devil's Advocate- If you have title to your own vehicle and your own private insurance... the risk is all yours. If you don't have title to your vehicle or if you are a co-partner or are piggy-backing on someone else's policy, they too share the risk, at your expense. In the United States, there are approx 25 valid reasons any insurance company can drop a holder/insured. Most of the majors will only use the top 3 reasons. Committing a Felony using a vehicle DUI Leaving the scene of an crash scene involving a fatality. Within those other 23 reasons are: Failure to inform or misinformation. I guess, as long as nothing happens or goes wrong.. who really cares. Its only after something serious happens and the lawyers get involve and begin asking those serious questions. I know of one Illinois Gov. George Thompson who sat in a central Indiana prison for 5 years. At issue was a foreign national who didn't speak English was issues a CDL to drive a truck on the highway. The flatbed trailer was defective and dropped its bumper on the highway, in front of a speeding car carrying a family of 5. Upon impact, the car burst into flames and the family perished. Former Gov George Thompson, sat in prison, unable to attend his wife's wake or funeral. Who would have thought that would have happened, if not for that one event. Be Safe! Best Wishes In a message dated 9/4/2013 12:11:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, lwillis...@yahoo.com writes: I had to attend a one day driving school and retake the test. It had been 10 years and I was 27. I have a slew of restrictions on my license but have never told my insurance. They have never questioned me about it despite a couple of fender benders.
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Thanks Quadius, I know that in Illinois and Indiana, when someone experiences a physical, or head (mental) trauma, that causes permanent disAbility... Voc Rehab gets involved and requires a physical test, an evaluation performed by a Occupational Therapist with Certification in Drivers Retraining. The evaluation determines if one can safely return to the road, with medicine, modifications and/or adaptive equipment. The Driving OT, will also advise the State, the number of hours in driving training, using the modifications and adaptive equipment, before one can be authorized and driver tested. Once the certification is completed the driver is tested on the road and if they pass, they are issued a new driver's licensed with all the necessary requirements. As I presented before, as long as nothing serious happens who cares. Its only after something serious happens and the lawyers begin the investigative process, on behalf of their client... Maybe someone in Michigan can advise if this is the same process as Illinois and Indiana. Best Wishes In a message dated 9/4/2013 7:26:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, quad...@gmail.com writes: When I was a cop, the only thing I would worry about is whether you were driving without the required equipment. I.e. if you have a restricted drivers license only allowing you to drive with hand controls, then there better be hand controls in the vehicle. If there is no restrictions, then there is no problems. That's the view from a former law enforcement officer. Then again, I haven't been doing that for 20 something years. On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:24 PM, RONALD L PRACHT _r.pracht@sbcglobal.net_ (mailto:r.pra...@sbcglobal.net) wrote: I will add this. Cops dont know anything about hand controls or care to know. If you get pulled over , present license, insurance, registration and shut up unless your asked a question. You will be fine. Ron Pracht From: donald scott _rollingluvr@yahoo.com_ (mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com) To: donald scott _rollingluvr@yahoo.com_ (mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com) ; _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal I wanted to add that my insurance company is aware of the fact that I drive from my wheelchair and I have several modification to my van. They said all is covered under my normal rate of payment. When I had my accident they proved it by repairing my van instead of just writing it off as a salvage loss. Due to all the money spent on modifications my van is worth more than the regular van of the same year. They paid close to 6,000 in repairs to the front end. Allstate is my insurance. From: donald scott _rollingluvr@yahoo.com_ (mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com) To: _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal I'm in California and have had my license for about 7 years. I had a regular license before my injury and it expired years later. When I got a van I could drive I applied for a new license. They did make me go through a few extra steps like a driving evaluation from a hospital and a DMV interview. After getting the ok I took the regular written and drivers test and passed with a 100 on both test. Since then I have only been pulled over once for running a stop sign and the cop looked at me and said Have a good day and let me go. I have also been in one accident that was deemed not my fault. My insurance didn't screw me or raise my rates. All of my repairs were fixed and I pay a average insurance rate. My license does have a restriction on it that says I must drive with hand controls. That is my experience so far with driving. I too will be renewing my license this year and I'm not sure if it will automatically renew or if I'll be tested again. But for the independence it gives me I'll do what ever I need too. I hope this helped in some way. Best wishes, Donald C5-C6 23 years post From: _wheelchair@aol.com_ (mailto:wheelch...@aol.com) _wheelchair@aol.com_ (mailto:wheelch...@aol.com) To: _r.pracht@sbcglobal.net_ (mailto:r.pra...@sbcglobal.net) ; _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal Some States are allowed to use one's driver's license as a Federal ID, for example, for flying and voting. If you present your new driver's license without a restriction and its challenged. Your insurance company knows of your physical conditions and limitations, I hope. It could be most embarrassing, should your license be flagged after all these years. I hope for you
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Same process here in Ky. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com From: wheelch...@aol.com Date: September 4, 2013, 9:19:11 PM EDT To: quad...@gmail.com, r.pra...@sbcglobal.net Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal Thanks Quadius, I know that in Illinois and Indiana, when someone experiences a physical, or head (mental) trauma, that causes permanent disAbility... Voc Rehab gets involved and requires a physical test, an evaluation performed by a Occupational Therapist with Certification in Drivers Retraining. The evaluation determines if one can safely return to the road, with medicine, modifications and/or adaptive equipment. The Driving OT, will also advise the State, the number of hours in driving training, using the modifications and adaptive equipment, before one can be authorized and driver tested. Once the certification is completed the driver is tested on the road and if they pass, they are issued a new driver's licensed with all the necessary requirements. As I presented before, as long as nothing serious happens who cares. Its only after something serious happens and the lawyers begin the investigative process, on behalf of their client... Maybe someone in Michigan can advise if this is the same process as Illinois and Indiana. Best Wishes In a message dated 9/4/2013 7:26:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, quad...@gmail.com writes: When I was a cop, the only thing I would worry about is whether you were driving without the required equipment. I.e. if you have a restricted drivers license only allowing you to drive with hand controls, then there better be hand controls in the vehicle. If there is no restrictions, then there is no problems. That's the view from a former law enforcement officer. Then again, I haven't been doing that for 20 something years. On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:24 PM, RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I will add this. Cops dont know anything about hand controls or care to know. If you get pulled over , present license, insurance, registration and shut up unless your asked a question. You will be fine. Ron Pracht From: donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com To: donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com; quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal I wanted to add that my insurance company is aware of the fact that I drive from my wheelchair and I have several modification to my van. They said all is covered under my normal rate of payment. When I had my accident they proved it by repairing my van instead of just writing it off as a salvage loss. Due to all the money spent on modifications my van is worth more than the regular van of the same year. They paid close to 6,000 in repairs to the front end. Allstate is my insurance. From: donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal I'm in California and have had my license for about 7 years. I had a regular license before my injury and it expired years later. When I got a van I could drive I applied for a new license. They did make me go through a few extra steps like a driving evaluation from a hospital and a DMV interview. After getting the ok I took the regular written and drivers test and passed with a 100 on both test. Since then I have only been pulled over once for running a stop sign and the cop looked at me and said Have a good day and let me go. I have also been in one accident that was deemed not my fault. My insurance didn't screw me or raise my rates. All of my repairs were fixed and I pay a average insurance rate. My license does have a restriction on it that says I must drive with hand controls. That is my experience so far with driving. I too will be renewing my license this year and I'm not sure if it will automatically renew or if I'll be tested again. But for the independence it gives me I'll do what ever I need too. I hope this helped in some way. Best wishes, Donald C5-C6 23 years post From: wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com To: r.pra...@sbcglobal.net; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal Some States are allowed to use one's driver's license as a Federal ID, for example, for flying and voting. If you present your new driver's license without a restriction and its challenged. Your insurance company knows of your physical conditions and limitations, I hope. It could be most embarrassing, should your license be flagged after all these years. I hope for you the best. Best Wishes In a message dated 9/4/2013 10:37:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, r.pra...@sbcglobal.net writes: Dont check
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Thanks lwillis! Best Wishes In a message dated 9/4/2013 8:53:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, lwillis...@yahoo.com writes: Same process here in Ky. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) From: _wheelchair@aol.com_ (mailto:wheelch...@aol.com) Date: September 4, 2013, 9:19:11 PM EDT To: _quadius@gmail.com_ (mailto:quad...@gmail.com) , _r.pracht@sbcglobal.net_ (mailto:r.pra...@sbcglobal.net) Cc: _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal Thanks Quadius, I know that in Illinois and Indiana, when someone experiences a physical, or head (mental) trauma, that causes permanent disAbility... Voc Rehab gets involved and requires a physical test, an evaluation performed by a Occupational Therapist with Certification in Drivers Retraining. The evaluation determines if one can safely return to the road, with medicine, modifications and/or adaptive equipment. The Driving OT, will also advise the State, the number of hours in driving training, using the modifications and adaptive equipment, before one can be authorized and driver tested. Once the certification is completed the driver is tested on the road and if they pass, they are issued a new driver's licensed with all the necessary requirements. As I presented before, as long as nothing serious happens who cares. Its only after something serious happens and the lawyers begin the investigative process, on behalf of their client... Maybe someone in Michigan can advise if this is the same process as Illinois and Indiana. Best Wishes In a message dated 9/4/2013 7:26:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, _quadius@gmail.com_ (mailto:quad...@gmail.com) writes: When I was a cop, the only thing I would worry about is whether you were driving without the required equipment. I.e. if you have a restricted drivers license only allowing you to drive with hand controls, then there better be hand controls in the vehicle. If there is no restrictions, then there is no problems. That's the view from a former law enforcement officer. Then again, I haven't been doing that for 20 something years. On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:24 PM, RONALD L PRACHT _r.pracht@sbcglobal.net_ (mailto:r.pra...@sbcglobal.net) wrote: I will add this. Cops dont know anything about hand controls or care to know. If you get pulled over , present license, insurance, registration and shut up unless your asked a question. You will be fine. Ron Pracht From: donald scott _rollingluvr@yahoo.com_ (mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com) To: donald scott _rollingluvr@yahoo.com_ (mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com) ; _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal I wanted to add that my insurance company is aware of the fact that I drive from my wheelchair and I have several modification to my van. They said all is covered under my normal rate of payment. When I had my accident they proved it by repairing my van instead of just writing it off as a salvage loss. Due to all the money spent on modifications my van is worth more than the regular van of the same year. They paid close to 6,000 in repairs to the front end. Allstate is my insurance. From: donald scott _rollingluvr@yahoo.com_ (mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com) To: _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal I'm in California and have had my license for about 7 years. I had a regular license before my injury and it expired years later. When I got a van I could drive I applied for a new license. They did make me go through a few extra steps like a driving evaluation from a hospital and a DMV interview. After getting the ok I took the regular written and drivers test and passed with a 100 on both test. Since then I have only been pulled over once for running a stop sign and the cop looked at me and said Have a good day and let me go. I have also been in one accident that was deemed not my fault. My insurance didn't screw me or raise my rates. All of my repairs were fixed and I pay a average insurance rate. My license does have a restriction on it that says I must drive with hand controls. That is my experience so far with driving. I too will be renewing my license this year and I'm not sure if it will automatically renew or if I'll be tested again. But for the independence it gives me I'll do what ever I need too. I hope this helped in some way. Best wishes, Donald C5-C6 23 years post From: _wheelchair@aol.com_ (mailto:wheelch...@aol.com) _wheelchair@aol.com_
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Ryan...Gov George Ryan c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: wheelch...@aol.com To: lwillis...@yahoo.com ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal Devil's Advocate- If you have title to your own vehicle and your own private insurance... the risk is all yours. If you don't have title to your vehicle or if you are a co-partner or are piggy-backing on someone else's policy, they too share the risk, at your expense. In the United States, there are approx 25 valid reasons any insurance company can drop a holder/insured. Most of the majors will only use the top 3 reasons. Committing a Felony using a vehicle DUI Leaving the scene of an crash scene involving a fatality. Within those other 23 reasons are: Failure to inform or misinformation. I guess, as long as nothing happens or goes wrong.. who really cares. Its only after something serious happens and the lawyers get involve and begin asking those serious questions. I know of one Illinois Gov. George Thompson who sat in a central Indiana prison for 5 years. At issue was a foreign national who didn't speak English was issues a CDL to drive a truck on the highway. The flatbed trailer was defective and dropped its bumper on the highway, in front of a speeding car carrying a family of 5. Upon impact, the car burst into flames and the family perished. Former Gov George Thompson, sat in prison, unable to attend his wife's wake or funeral. Who would have thought that would have happened, if not for that one event. Be Safe! Best Wishes In a message dated 9/4/2013 12:11:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, lwillis...@yahoo.com writes: I had to attend a one day driving school and retake the test. It had been 10 years and I was 27. I have a slew of restrictions on my license but have never told my insurance. They have never questioned me about it despite a couple of fender benders.
