Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Auto power off?

2009-11-01 Thread ModelCitizen

It'd be most useful if the clock was visible when the alarm went off!

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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Major Radio and Router problems

2009-11-01 Thread danco

My original report came from a conversation with Logitech support.

Further discussion with Slimdevices people via bugs.slimdevices.com
indicates that he was wrong.

It is, however, true that most routers are currently going through an
assessment process for compatibility with the Radio and Touch. It is
therefore *possible* that routers are incompatible.

See 
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/RouterStatus


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio randomly disconnects from router

2009-11-01 Thread Remy Bohmer
Hi,

2009/10/30 ashimmin :
>
> I get the same problem with a LinkSys router. Looking in bugzilla it
> appears we're not alone with this issue and I've seen a suggestion that
> it could be caused by the presence of other wireless networks. For me
> this is a fatal problem and I'm seriously considering returning the
> Radio.

FWIW: It works fine here with my LinkSys router (with DD-WRT
installed) for months already as well as for the radio as for the
touch...
And here also a lot of other wireless networks are in the area (my
laptop now shows 17 other access points in the neighbourhood). I
tested the radio to work stable at at least 20 metres from the access
point, with concrete walls/ceilings in between. Be sure to choose a
channel for your access point that is not used much in the area to
prevent conflicts with other access points.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio is stuttering during streaming

2009-11-01 Thread boexli

Thanks for all your help. 

the audio format is either normal mp3 or Apple Loss Less which works
just fine on my boom player but is stuttering on my new Radio device.
Same for internet streaming - works just fine on the boom but is
stuttering on my new radio. I ran the network test but I dont understand
what it is doing ... however the quality /strength is excellent( better
than the boom ). Thanks a lot Nick


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio battery on Logitech UK... kinda

2009-11-01 Thread hellesangel

What's the current status of the Radio's battery?  I've been trying to
find out but it seems to have vanished from all forms of the Logitech
site (except Google's cache, of course ;-)) but trying to find current
information is next to impossible.

I guess the company has some internal trouble and have delayed it,
would be nice if they just said so...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio battery on Logitech UK... kinda

2009-11-01 Thread twynne

Same state on the UK site.  The listing is here:

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speakers_audio/wireless_music_systems/devices/6066&cl=gb,en

It still has a holding picture and a 'preorder' button.  Clicking the
preorder button throws an error.  I've had a support ticket open on this
for a couple of weeks now.

On a related note, I was able to order 2 SB Touches also a couple of
weeks ago, but they're just sitting at 'In Process'.  Ecommerce support
has no clue - they tried to blame it on my credit card company (who
confirms there is no problem with payment).  I suspect they're just not
in stock, but it would seem sensible to just say that rather than make
up some silly excuse about payment issues.


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[SlimDevices: Radio] Size of Covers

2009-11-01 Thread epogo

Hello,

is there any option to change the size of the cover in the display. For
me - all the covers are too big.

Where can i change the settings ?

epogo


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Size of Covers

2009-11-01 Thread JJZolx

epogo;480277 Wrote: 
> is there any option to change the size of the cover in the display. For
> me - all the covers are too big.

In what way are they "too big".  The interface is designed to size the
covers to use the whole screen and then the overlays are on top of the
cover, with a little transparency.  Sometimes it works, often it
doesn't.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio battery on Logitech UK... kinda

2009-11-01 Thread toby10

The last time beta testers were told of Radio battery availability it
was "Decemberat the earliest".


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Major Radio and Router problems

2009-11-01 Thread Dean Blackketter

On Nov 1, 2009, at 1:00 AM, danco wrote:
> http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/RouterStatus

Yes, this is the canonical reference for router compatibility.  If you  
are using or have tested a router, please update the wiki with your  
experiences.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Time not displayed

2009-11-01 Thread bkmill

I would still prefer the time being displayed in large fonts (sleepy
eyes) and have the option menu converted to a small hint text. If the
sleep and alarm off were assigned to default buttons (e.g. the push
button knob and alarm button) it would be easier to operate the SB Radio
early in the morning :-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio is stuttering during streaming

2009-11-01 Thread jmpage2

Have you tried using the wired connection on the squeezebox radio to
play the same material?

Try going hard wired.  If the problems go away then there is something
going on with the network, even if it is just the type of encryption you
are using.


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[SlimDevices: Radio] Radio startup issues

2009-11-01 Thread RacerX

Hi:

I've had the SBR for a few weeks now, and generally like it--aside from
the fact that it is a pain in the a** to get going most times.

The issue I'm having is doing a power-up, the radio doesn't work pretty
much all of the time. I have to power down via the power button, then
start it back up. Usually takes 2-3 times before connecting.

The interesting thing is that I can connect to the unit via the web
applet (remote control) and switch the stations to get it going
sometimes. Also, when I push one of the 1-6 preselect buttons it will
start playing the station. The problem I am seeing is the dial/browse
functionality. Once it starts working it continues to work fine though.

My setup:

Netgear WRTG624v3, latest firmware--no issues with any other devices.
Using wireless/WEP for all my connections. All devices have defined IP
addresses in the router. Frankly I don't buy the "it's a router issue".

The SBR is at the latest firmware and configured correctly. Again, once
it connects it'll go fine for hours. It's only when the unit powers down
there seems to be an issue.

Also, I have the SBR plugged into a power-saver outlet that cuts power
to my home theater equip when the main receiver is off. I don't believe
that's a problem--but maybe by SBR automatically turning on when it gets
power is contributing to the issue?

Anyhow, log-winded post. If anyone has a recommendation I'm all ears.
The device is nice but it certainly has its' quirks. I hope the firmware
updates will fix a lot of these connectivity issues.

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[SlimDevices: Radio] My mini review of the Squeezebox Radio

2009-11-01 Thread jmpage2

I'm a long time fan of Slim Devices, having purchased my original SliMP3
player back in late 2001.  I also have the distinction of still having
the original email from Sean Adams indicating I was the very first
pre-order in for the original Squeezebox (which I still have).

I have been interested in some kind of improved bedside/tabletop radio
for a number of years and was interested in the Squeezebox Radio almost
from the start.  I was concerned about the initial bugs and quality
issues being mentioned in these forums, but went to the local Best Buy
to check the unit out anyhow.

A note to Logitech Marketing that handles the Squeeze players.  The
product placement in Best Buy stores and marketing effort is terrible. 
The Squeezebox units were not located with any of the other new "hip"
network/streaming products but were instead located with the audio video
receivers and speakers.  Big disappointment as it took me a full 20
minutes to locate the units (I actually had to ask for help, something I
almost never do).  It would probably be more helpful if they were
located with the network gear, or at least in the ipod/portable area.

Anyways.  I convinced the Best Buy folks to open a unit up (they didn't
even have one displayed) because I really wanted to see what the
physical hardware quality was like.  I had concerns that the unit would
suffer from sub-standard construction, similar to the "cheapening" of
buttons, etc, that I have seen on other mid-price consumer electronics
over the past few years.  I was very pleasantly surprised to find that
the SB radio seemed to be built like a tank, looked gorgeous and the
buttons seemed to have positive tactile feel.  I purchased one on the
spot!

When I got home and unboxed the player to get ready for set up, I was
surprised that there wasn't a more "in your face" setup document about
needing to set up a My Squeeze account.  I think most of the turn off of
the unit has been the perceived difficulty of setup, which might be
avoided with a large color poster that shows the set up in just a few
easy steps.  It should also have a big notice to contact helpful support
folks if having issues getting it set up so that it does not wind up
being returned to the store.  This is a premium price product and there
should be decent telephone support for setup issues, at least for the
first 30 days after purchase.

My own setup went relatively smoothly.  I used push to authenticate to
get it on my wi-fi network in a matter of seconds, and since I already
have a My Squeeze account set up for my Squeezebox Network software
running on my HP Mediasmart, I was off to the races fairly quickly.

The very first thing I wanted to do was stream some of my music to the
unit and see what audio quality was like.  In a word, it sounds very
good!  I would not call it audiophile quality but it certainly can hold
its own with other "tabletop radio" units that put out decent quality
sound for a medium sized room.

I was a bit put off by the favorites/preset process as it took me doing
some research and digging to discover how to add playlists as favorites
and then add those favorites as select buttons.  This area needs some
improvement.  I'd go as far as to say there should be a section in the
web setup for the Squeezebox Radio that addresses this issue.

I did find that most of the player based activities (with the very
notable omission of the above favorites/settings) were fairly intuitive.
I would like the ability to mute the annoying button press sounds, so
far I haven't found the place to do that.  It gets old after a while to
hear beeps and boops every time you are navigating the menu.  I did
observe that once when I left the room for a couple of hours with the
menu showing that it was still sitting at that menu screen when I
returned.  There is a "stopped" screen saver you can define but I would
really like the option for the player to shut itself off after 15
minutes if nothing is playing and there is no activity from the user.

I did play with the unit in a dark room because I was concerned about
how well the auto dimming would work.  I am a very light sleeper and any
extraneous lights keep me awake at night (LEDs especially).  I was
pleasantly surprised that the dimming works fantastic.  It would be nice
to set a minimum and maximum range for it.  It actually gets SO dim that
in a pitch black room you will struggle to read it.

After getting all situated with presets, basic setup (Pandora, etc), I
wanted to play with the Alarm functionality.  The Alarm setup was very
straight forward, but I was a bit disappointed in the actual execution. 
I had programmed my unit to wake me up to one of my own playlists at
9:00AM today and was actually already awake when the alarm turned it on.
When the Alarm activated (which was actually about a full 10-15 seconds
after 9:00AM) I was greeted with some noises and a full second of high
volume music before it then started to ramp up the volume slowly as it

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My mini review of the Squeezebox Radio

2009-11-01 Thread toby10

To turn off operation "beeps":
Settings > Audio > Sound Effects > None

Initially the Album Art was about 1/3 smaller on the Radio and many
wanted larger images.  I would love to see a setting option for such art
like Large (full screen like, it is now) and Small (about 1/4 to 1/3
smaller, text does not cover album).  If it can only be a menu item
within Settings that would be acceptable, but it would be better IMO to
make it a simple on the fly option while in the Now Playing screen.

I suggested a knob turn in Now Playing would re-size the art on the
fly. A Knob turn currently does nothing in Now Playing (unless you push
the knob).  The idea being each right click increases art size by 1/3,
each left click decreases art size by 1/3, max three turns each way,
fourth click (either direction) brings you back to the original art
size.  But they seem to be interested in waiting for a third party
plugin for this type of feature (assuming it is even possible at all).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My mini review of the Squeezebox Radio

2009-11-01 Thread jmpage2

toby10;480371 Wrote: 
> To turn off operation "beeps":
> Settings > Audio > Sound Effects > None
> 
> Initially the Album Art was about 1/3 smaller on the Radio and many
> wanted larger images.  I would love to see a setting option for such art
> like Large (full screen like, it is now) and Small (about 1/4 to 1/3
> smaller, text does not cover album).  If it can only be a menu item
> within Settings that would be acceptable, but it would be better IMO to
> make it a simple on the fly option while in the Now Playing screen.
> 
> I suggested a knob turn in Now Playing would re-size the art on the
> fly. A Knob turn currently does nothing in Now Playing (unless you push
> the knob).  The idea being each right click increases art size by 1/3,
> each left click decreases art size by 1/3, max three turns each way,
> fourth click (either direction) brings you back to the original art
> size.  But they seem to be interested in waiting for a third party
> plugin for this type of feature (assuming it is even possible at all).

Thanks for the heads up!  I suspected that there was some way to turn
off the beeps but just had not found the setting yet.

Even better than having the knob change album artwork size would be to
simply have several completely different "now playing" screens and allow
the knob to cycle through them.  This should make just about everyone
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Size of Covers

2009-11-01 Thread epogo

JJZolx;480286 Wrote: 
> In what way are they "too big".  The interface is designed to size the
> covers to use the whole screen and then the overlays are on top of the
> cover, with a little transparency.  Sometimes it works, often it
> doesn't.

I would like to the the complete cover in the screen - without
overlays...

I hope that there will be an option in further firmware versions...

epogo


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio is stuttering during streaming

2009-11-01 Thread boexli

I have not yet tried using a wired connection because I bought it for
wireless use only. I use my wireless network for many devices including
my boom device and I have had no issues so far. therfore I dont intend
to change my wireless settings because of the radio which is still
making problems. i have read an online review at PCMAG.com and it looks
that they must have ran into the same issue??!!

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2354904,00.asp

"The greatest issue you're likely to face with the Squeezebox Radio is
stuttering during streaming."

Thanks a lot for all your help / Nick


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My mini review of the Squeezebox Radio

2009-11-01 Thread SuperQ

jmpage2;480351 Wrote: 
> A note to Logitech Marketing that handles the Squeeze players.  The
> product placement in Best Buy stores and marketing effort is terrible. 
> The Squeezebox units were not located with any of the other new "hip"
> network/streaming products but were instead located with the audio video
> receivers and speakers.  Big disappointment as it took me a full 20
> minutes to locate the units (I actually had to ask for help, something I
> almost never do).  It would probably be more helpful if they were
> located with the network gear, or at least in the ipod/portable area.  I
> saw a gaggle of people oohing and aaahing over the Sonus Players which
> have large displays and are set up for demo.  These same potential
> customers probably don't even know that Squeezebox exists.

Unfortunately, it seems like Best Buy is completely dropping the
Squeezebox lineup.  They didn't even have any in stock last time I was
at a store a few weeks ago.  The sales people also indicated that they
weren't going to stock them at all, and wanted to show me these nice
sony products.

Bleh!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio battery on Logitech UK... kinda

2009-11-01 Thread hellesangel

In a way it's not at all surprising.  Moving from purely mains powered
devices to possibly battery powered isn't at all an easy step, and will
require very careful hardware and software design for it to work
effectively.  I worked for fifteen years writing software for mobile
telephones and know from painful experience how tricky it is to squeeze
the maximum lifetime from a battery.  I wouldn't be at all surprised if
Logitech under-estimated this and currently have the devices running for
about half an hour on a full charge and are trying to figure out where
all those amps are going ;-)

In the meantime I ordered a Radio over Amazon.de and will enjoy it
inside for a while...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio battery on Logitech UK... kinda

2009-11-01 Thread Chunkywizard

There's already beta units in the field. IIRC MeSue said she got 8hours
of continuous play out of the battery

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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My mini review of the Squeezebox Radio

2009-11-01 Thread jmpage2

SuperQ;480409 Wrote: 
> Unfortunately, it seems like Best Buy is completely dropping the
> Squeezebox lineup.  They didn't even have any in stock last time I was
> at a store a few weeks ago.  The sales people also indicated that they
> weren't going to stock them at all, and wanted to show me these nice
> sony products.
> 
> Bleh!

When they found the Squeezebox Radio for me it was coming fresh off the
truck along with a couple of Squeeze Boom units.

So, I think the sales people you talked to were misinformed, or were
simply idiots, either would not surprise.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio is stuttering during streaming

2009-11-01 Thread jmpage2

boexli;480393 Wrote: 
> I have not yet tried using a wired connection because I bought it for
> wireless use only. I use my wireless network for many devices including
> my boom device and I have had no issues so far. therfore I dont intend
> to change my wireless settings because of the radio which is still
> making problems. i have read an online review at PCMAG.com and it looks
> that they must have ran into the same issue??!!
> 
> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2354904,00.asp
> 
> "The greatest issue you're likely to face with the Squeezebox Radio is
> stuttering during streaming."
> 
> Thanks a lot for all your help / Nick

Nick, I don't think you are being fair.

Connecting the unit to a wired connection is simply to PROVE whether
the stuttering issue is due to the network connection or some other
factor.

In the network troubleshooting world these type of diagnostics are
critical for figuring out problems.

If you determine that it does not stutter during wired playback then
investigation can turn to other things such as possible sources of
wireless interference, type of network encryption being used, network
parameters, etc.  Any number of things could very possibly be modified
fixing the problem.

If, on the other hand you'd rather complain and not do any
troubleshooting then don't be surprised if the level of help you receive
starts to tail off.


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[SlimDevices: Radio] Does SBS work with Radio?

2009-11-01 Thread CorePrime

When I check web remote control, it reads "your player not found...". 
Also, my music is on a NAS, 21,000+ songs.  It took about 2 hours to
scan in, its scanning in the artwork now of which there isn't any.  The
artwork scan has been going about 8 hours and its about 20% done.  I've
uninstalled SBS and reinstalled with same result.

Squeezebox Server Status 
Version: 7.4.1 - r28947 @ Tue Oct 20 08:13:15 PDT 2009 
Hostname: Lakers 
Server IP Address: 192.168.1.2 
Server HTTP Port Number: 9000 
Operating system: Windows 7 - EN - cp1252 
Platform Architecture: 586 
Perl Version: 5.10.0 - MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 
MySQL Version: 5.0.22-community-nt 
Total Players Recognized: 0


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] how do I save favorites

2009-11-01 Thread jeanwedding

it only works when my computer is on. I want to access favorites WITHOUT
computer on. Why is it so hard.My old unit no problem.
Thank you
Jean


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My mini review of the Squeezebox Radio

2009-11-01 Thread erland

jmpage2;480351 Wrote: 
> 
> Another thing for the alarm that would be nice is the ability to label
> alarms so that they read "his" and "hers", etc.  It is a bit confusing
> for my wife if she needs to program "alarm 1" versus "alarm 2".  
> 
Good idea, why don't you register an enhancement request on this at:
http://bugs.slimdevices.com


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My mini review of the Squeezebox Radio

2009-11-01 Thread jmpage2

Hmm... My unit seems to have lost all it's presets today. Is there
already a bug report for this?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My mini review of the Squeezebox Radio

2009-11-01 Thread ModelCitizen

There is already an enhancement logged for this, although it was
registered before the development of the radio and only refers to the
Boom, but I think the two devices share the same alarm code. There are a
lot of bugs/enhancents logged against the alarm and as far as I can see
none of them get addressed. The original developer of the alarm code
appears to have little time for Logitech matters nowadays.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My mini review of the Squeezebox Radio

2009-11-01 Thread JJZolx

jmpage2;480351 Wrote: 
> Job well done Sean, Dean and company!

It's mostly just company now.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My mini review of the Squeezebox Radio

2009-11-01 Thread bluegaspode

> 
> Another thing for the alarm that would be nice is the ability to label
> alarms so that they read "his" and "hers", etc. It is a bit confusing
> for my wife if she needs to program "alarm 1" versus "alarm 2".
> 

This is the one https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14716
Target milestone was put to 'Future' which I interpret as 'never', as
most other bugs get flagged with 7.4.x or 7.5 or 8.0.

> 
> There are a lot of bugs/enhancents logged against the alarm and as far
> as I can see none of them get addressed. 
> 

Unfortunately very true - some I consider very harmful (there are three
bugs, where the alarm doesn't fire due to various reasons) :(
This morning the alarm failed for me again :(

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14870
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14742
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14888

And here some minor usability bugs that don't get adressed.
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14874
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14704


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Does SBS work with Radio?

2009-11-01 Thread bluegaspode

It should work.

Did you try to connect the radio to the server first (going to 'my
music' on the radio menu you should be requested to choose a server)


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