Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Good Christmas gift for Mom?
0xdeadbeef;495094 Wrote: With all the current issues and the speed (or the lack thereof) they're being worked on, I'd never recommend a SB Radio as Xmas present for people that you don't ferociously hate. Not even for a technical savvy person. Let's face it: currently it's a buggy geek device and it comes without any kind of manual. It's ok for people who like playing around with new toys, have a high frustration tolerance and are happy to work around bugs every 2nd time they use it. I'm probably in the geek category so I'm guessing that's why it seems like my Radio works perfectly and has done so the last months. I'm using it as bedside radio to wake up in the morning and it has been rock solid for months now. I've used it mostly for local music playback and only sometimes for internet radio. I have it always connected to my local Squeezebox Server. Are all the issues for people which use the Radio connected to mysqueezebox.com or what's the problems people are talking about ? -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72540 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Good Christmas gift for Mom?
erland;495100 Wrote: [...]I have it always connected to my local Squeezebox Server. Are all the issues for people which use the Radio connected to mysqueezebox.com or what's the problems people are talking about ? Most of the real annoying issues are related to MYSB. Obviously the pre-release testing (I don't call it beta testing since IMHO the software hasn't entered a beta maturity yet) completely excluded MYSB. Although the American MYSB server seems to be a little more reliable and/or better configured than its European counterpart, there are reports about almost the same issues with the American server. Anyway, the mentioned Mom is supposed to use the Radio only via MYSB. So good luck to explain her why buttons stops to respond, connection to MYSB is lost all the time and the menu item to reconnect doesn't work etc. At least she is not supposed to use it as bedside radio. Then disinherison would be inevitable. -- 0xdeadbeef 0xdeadbeef's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2287 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72540 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Good Christmas gift for Mom?
I say yes. p.s. There are several NASCAR specific stations and podcasts via the Internet Radio menu. Never tried them myself, more an F1 fan myself, but I know I've seen them in the menu structure before. p.s.s. Imagine the fun you can have controlling their Radio remotely, you could drive them NUTZ! :) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72540 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Good Christmas gift for Mom?
erland;495100 Wrote: Are all the issues for people which use the Radio connected to mysqueezebox.com or what's the problems people are talking about ? My only complaint is the back-up alarm, otherwise I have no problems. I don't have a sbserver (I only use mysqueezebox.com). -- Tony T Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72540 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Good Christmas gift for Mom?
Tony T;495151 Wrote: In 3 weeks, I've only had 1 disconnect from mysqueezebox.com and even then the unit re-connected without my intervention. I've never have a non-responsive button. You must be a lucky man. Here in europe (germany) the fact is like oxdeadbeef has descripted. Have a view in amazon.de to the users comments. -- moritz ___ 1xSB Classic 1xSB Radio moritz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34188 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72540 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Good Christmas gift for Mom?
moritz;495171 Wrote: . Have a view in amazon.de to the users comments. Only 18 comments on amazon.de. 11 are 4 or 5 stars. 18 Rezensionen 5 Sterne: (7) 4 Sterne: (4) 3 Sterne: (3) 2 Sterne: (3) 1 Sterne: (1) -- Tony T Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72540 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Good Christmas gift for Mom?
I can't recommend it as a gift yet, or even for a guest bedroom. I was going to order two for reasonably tech savvy friends, but decided against it. The UI is hardly intuitive; people can pick up an iPod and figure it out, but not the SqueezeBox. Integration with iTunes is still fair, at best. Primary access to stations don't work (BBC, for a glaring example). Having to educate someone that, Oh, the BBC on the Radio section doesn't work, even though it says 'Staff Picks,' you need to go to this special place, but every other station you get in the Radio place, well, except those that you need to open this other app for... just doesn't fly. The alarm is completely unreliable if your internet connection or server is the least bit flaky. Backup alarms do not play, even in the US, even with a local server. -- jef jef's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30360 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72540 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Good Christmas gift for Mom?
Tony T;495175 Wrote: Only 18 comments on amazon.de. 11 are 4 or 5 stars True, although pretty meaningless. Firstly too few ratings, secondly all positive ratings done a few days after purchase and from people who use it in the office or kitchen. Still surprising to see a five star rating at all taking into account how miserably the Radio works with MYSB in Europe. Then again, just wait a few weeks and see the ratings go down. Tony T;495147 Wrote: Well, technically you're correct that a manual is not included, but there is a very detailed manual on the web: http://www.logitech.com/repository/3257/pdf/24378.1.0.pdf Only in English though. Pretty amazing that Logitech dares to release the Radio without a proper manual - not even on CD. Indeed this is clearly a violation of German law and probably also of European law. Not that I ever actually read a manual, but e.g. for my parents only the printed word counts. -- 0xdeadbeef 0xdeadbeef's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2287 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72540 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Good Christmas gift for Mom?
The only part of the manual that legally have to be in local language in EU is the safety part of the manual . (don't use your boom in the bath if connected to the mains , or don't try to brush your teeth with your new chainsaw ) But it is good business practice to provide instructions that are intelligible to the intended customer ;) By all means spare me from those computer generated translations other CE manufacturers use. Computer generated translations is usually the case with manuals these days, the final insult to ones sensibilities . If logitech choose this way with their manual I would consider not buying out of general principle, there is technical writers and translators generally available even for such a small language as Swedish . -- Mnyb Main hifi: SB3 (soon to replaced by a Touch :) It is on preorder) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Receiver (soon to be replaced by my SB3 and the SBRto be stuffed in a box in the attic ) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to controll this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72540 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Good Christmas gift for Mom?
Tony T;495230 Wrote: I didn't know that Linn was into digital! I have an Sondek LP12. 25 years old and (with upgrades), sounds as good as the day I bought it. (I recently ripped all my vinyl to flac, and with the LP12 the sound from the flac is as good (and sometimes better) than the CD) Tony Yes, and I'm typically not a fan of Linn gear, but I was able to demo there three DSs and found that I liked all of them. Check out the Audiophile forum for more discussion - some of it gets a bit heated. You know what they say about opinions... -- kphinney -I like it, you may not. I understand and respect that.- kphinney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10409 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72540 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Good Christmas gift for Mom?
kphinney;495215 Wrote: Are you saying the speed of the 802.11g wireless is not adequate for streaming? I don't have any issues with 1411 kbps FLAC files on my SB3 or Transporter. Yes, I'd like to see an upgrade to 802.11n, but that's only so my entire wireless isn't stepped down when the SBs connect. Not at all. I'm saying that the Radio is buggy and the MYSB connection is completely unreliable. kphinney;495215 Wrote: I've been using the mysqueezebox network for ver 4 years now and haven't experienced any issues that I'd say would be a deal breaker. MySqueezebox.com didn't exist before the release of 7.4.0. So it's impossible you used it for 4 years. Its predecessor was squeezenetwork.com, but this was a slightly different type of beast. kphinney;495215 Wrote: Are you intoning that the SB Radio itself is buggy and does not connect to MySB very well? It's hard to tell whether the MYSB connection problems are caused by the Radio or by the server. Most probably both are flawed. However, the main problem is the Radio, which doesn't seem to notice the loss of connection and/or obviously has no fault handling implemented at all. It simply does nothing in such a scenario - which happens at least once a day. E.g. you press the Alarm button and it plays a button sound, but nothing happens. It doesn't even try to fix the MYSB connection and doesn't output a error message either. It just sits there and does nothing. And indeed it's not so easy to get it out of that state. Did I mention that this happens at least once a day? kphinney;495215 Wrote: I would have thought they were using the tried and true heart of the same software they've been building on side SlimDevices released it. Not at all. The software for Controller, Radio and Touch is a completely new design (based on a scripting language called Lua). E.g. nearly all the configuration options of the SB Classic are missing. You can't even change a font size and have to live with a now playing screen with an unreadable clock. Also two weeks ago, the European MYSB server went down and as it was up again, no Controller or Radio in whole Europe could connect to MYSB while the classic devices could still connect. So also the server side seems to be different. -- 0xdeadbeef 0xdeadbeef's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2287 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72540 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Good Christmas gift for Mom?
0xdeadbeef;495255 Wrote: ... MySqueezebox.com didn't exist before the release of 7.4.0. So it's impossible you used it for 4 years. Its predecessor was squeezenetwork.com, but this was a slightly different type of beast. I assumed that went without saying. I haven't noticed any change with my legacy devices. 0xdeadbeef;495255 Wrote: ... It's hard to tell whether the MYSB connection problems are caused by the Radio or by the server. Most probably both are flawed. However, the main problem is the Radio, which doesn't seem to notice the loss of connection and/or obviously has no fault handling implemented at all. It simply does nothing in such a scenario - which happens at least once a day... It just sits there and does nothing. And indeed it's not so easy to get it out of that state. Did I mention that this happens at least once a day?... Ouch. Oxdeadbeef excluded, does this happen to you others? Myself, running two or three streams simultaneously, nearly every day, on two SB3s and one Transporter I have yet to be - ever- disconnected, hung up, or missed an alarm in greater than a year. Oxdeadbeef, have you done any troubleshooting on your own network? -- kphinney -I like it, you may not. I understand and respect that.- kphinney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10409 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72540 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Bbc
I have now updated the firmware on squeeze box to 130, upgraded also squeezecenter 7.3. on my laptop. BBC now works fine. thanks. As i have said previously in the post i also run slimserver 6.3.1 on a Qnap ts101 which i need to upgrade to squeezecenter 7.3. Not so easy for this technophobe, I bought the QNAP with slimserver pre-installed(you can stop laughing now). So any help as to where i can find any info on how to upgrade this nas and whether the ts 101 will indeed run squeezecenter 7.3. thanks in advance Nathan -- marley102 marley102's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8923 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71966 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Good Christmas gift for Mom?
0xdeadbeef;495284 Wrote: Until now the only people who are satisfied with the alarm either live in the USA or use a local SB server. . You clearly are not reading my posts in this thread. :( -- Tony T Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72540 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Good Christmas gift for Mom?
kphinney;495268 Wrote: Oxdeadbeef excluded, does this happen to you others? 0xdeadbeef;495284 Wrote: Until now the only people who are satisfied with the alarm either live in the USA or use a local SB server. I've yet to find a single user in Europe with a dynamic IP who is happy with the alarm reliablity over MYSB. I was asking if others experienced the problem. You made your case well known, but no one else seems to be making a fuss. Please, anyone else have Onlybeef's issue of dropping and having to reset daily as he does? -- kphinney -I like it, you may not. I understand and respect that.- kphinney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10409 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72540 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Good Christmas gift for Mom?
Tony T;495319 Wrote: You clearly are not reading my posts in this thread. Yes I did. Where did you say you're from Europe? Are you? If not: did you read -my- posts? Tony T;495319 Wrote: Not sure what your agenda is. I could ask you the same question. Mine is simply to get at least the most basic functions fixed as soon as possible. -- 0xdeadbeef 0xdeadbeef's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2287 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72540 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Good Christmas gift for Mom?
Tony T;495349 Wrote: I'm located in the US (East Coast) and connect to the logitech server in Sunnyvale CA. So much about reading other people's posts... -- 0xdeadbeef 0xdeadbeef's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2287 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72540 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Good Christmas gift for Mom?
Tony T;495349 Wrote: I'm located in the US (East Coast) and connect to the logitech server in Sunnyvale CA. (I always find it amusing that when I use the iPeng or Web remote that my commands make a 5,000 mile round-trip when the SB Radio is 3 feet from me!) Cool. Thank you for your relevant input as my Mum is on the East Coast also, NNY as I pointed out in the OP. -- kphinney -I like it, you may not. I understand and respect that.- kphinney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10409 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72540 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Good Christmas gift for Mom?
0xdeadbeef;495348 Wrote: Yes I did. Where did you say you're from Europe? Are you? If not: did you read -my- posts? I could ask you the same question. Mine is simply to get at least the most basic functions fixed as soon as possible. Oxdeadbeef, I have had no problem at all connecting to www.mysqueezebox.com for the last week or more. I'm from Ireland, so I would expect that I connect to a European server. My wife, a total technophobe, is getting to know how to handle our radios etc., and to switch from mysqueezebox.com to Squeezebox Server and back again. This is happening without difficulty. Happy Christmas, kesey -- kesey kesey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10786 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72540 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Good Christmas gift for Mom?
kesey;495367 Wrote: Oxdeadbeef, I have had no problem at all connecting to www.mysqueezebox.com for the last week or more. I'm from Ireland, so I would expect that I connect to a European server. My wife, a total technophobe, is getting to know how to handle our radios etc., and to switch from mysqueezebox.com to Squeezebox Server and back again. This is happening without difficulty. You can easily check the server you're connected to under Settings-Extended-Information (or something like that). So you're saying you're using a Radio which is always in standby and you're using the alarm feature via MYSB and you never have issues? If so: are you using an internet connection via cable with a fixed IP by chance? -- 0xdeadbeef 0xdeadbeef's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2287 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72540 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Good Christmas gift for Mom?
earthbased;495390 Wrote: The SB Radio is piece of cake to use once set up properly and if the Internet connection is reliable. I love the SB Radio and carry it with me when I travel. Thanks. I've ordered one and I'm sure she'll enjoy it. -- kphinney -I like it, you may not. I understand and respect that.- kphinney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10409 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72540 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Good Christmas gift for Mom?
Have you guys read the announcement regarding mysqueezebox.com ? http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72502 -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72540 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
