Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
Given that the Radio was the only squeezebox type I didn't own (well, I don't have a transporter either ;-) and they were on Amazon in a fire sale ($99!), I picked one up. Of course it's giving me nothing but trouble out of the box :-(. It plays fine through mysb.com, but it won't play from my local server. I suspect this is because it won't downgrade the firware to my local version. It seems to have come with later firmware. I'm running 7.5.5 for my server. I managed to connect it to mysb.com and upgrade it to the firmware there. But, when I try to connect it to my local server, it fails to update the firmware. It starts and immediately fails. Is there a way to manually upgrade the firmware like could be done with the controller? Can the process described here be used to do this? Is this a common issue? I have to say I'm impressed with the hardware itself - very solid feeling. Once I can get it to play music, I can comment on the sound quality :-). Thanks! maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
maggior wrote: Given that the Radio was the only squeezebox type I didn't own (well, I don't have a transporter either ;-) and they were on Amazon in a fire sale ($99!), I picked one up. Of course it's giving me nothing but trouble out of the box :-(. It plays fine through mysb.com, but it won't play from my local server. I suspect this is because it won't downgrade the firware to my local version. It seems to have come with later firmware. I'm running 7.5.5 for my server. I managed to connect it to mysb.com and upgrade it to the firmware there. But, when I try to connect it to my local server, it fails to update the firmware. It starts and immediately fails. Is there a way to manually upgrade the firmware like could be done with the controller? Can the process described here be used to do this? Is this a common issue? I have to say I'm impressed with the hardware itself - very solid feeling. Once I can get it to play music, I can comment on the sound quality :-). Thanks! You could check the hardware revision as per earlier post in this tread , there could possibly be a case of very late revisions of Radio not being able to run to old fw ? ? Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
Tried just dismissing the firmware update/downgrade on LMS? Left or Home button? toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
I've tried that, but it behaves strangely. The radio doesn't show up in the list of players on the web page. it will let me browse my music library and appears to play when I play something, but no sound comes out of the speaker. Since there is a mismatch between the server and player firmware, I figure I should resolve that before I conclude there is some other problem. It plays Rhapsody fine from mysb.com, so it all seems like a software problem to me. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio refuses to upgrade (downgrade) firmware
spamandy wrote: Hope someone might be able to help with my new squeezebox radio. This is my second radio - first one works fine. I'm running the SBS (version 7.6.1 - r33110) on a WD MyBookLive NAS. Both radios connect to this via my wifi network. When I connected the new radio for the first time it prompted to 'upgrade' it's firmware from 7.7.1-r9592 to the version on the server (ie. 7.6.1), which is installed and working fine on my first radio. The problem is that if I tell it to upgrade it starts downloading but fails at 0% download. Also, I notice that the wifi signal strength icon on the screen changes to red for about 1 second. From that point the radio won't play any music and nothing seems to fix it except a complete reboot, after which it asks me to up(down)grade again. If I abort the upgrade at that stage (ie. before trying to upgrade - leaving the firmware at 7.7.1) everything works fine. I wouldn't be bothered about this, except that every time I turn the radio on again it keeps hassling me to upgrade and cancelling this every time is annoying. Also, no one else in the family knows how to do this so it just adds to my tech support load :) Any tips? I'm experiencing exactly the same issue with the exact same symptoms with a squeezebox radio I just purchased - right down to the behavior of the wifi signal strength icon turning red for a second. The solution here was to upgrade to the latest LMS, which is not something I want to take on at this point. I'm running 7.5.5. currently and it works fine for all of my other devices and should work with the Radio. I've tried all of the things suggested here - factory reset and using a wired network connection rather than wireless. No joy. In addition to the annoyance of the request for update, the latest fw for the radio (which it successfully loaded from mysb.com) doesn't seem to play well with the 7.5.5 version of server software. The player doens't show up in the list of players even though it is connected to the server. If I try to play music, it appears to but no sound comes out of the radio. it plays Rhapsody fine via mysb.com. Is there something I can do other than upgrade my server software? This is very frustrating, especially since I'm not exactly a squeezebox newbie :-). maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95401 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio fails firmware update to 7.5.1 r9218
rich.herbs wrote: Based on some comments in the post http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?97331-Downgrade-UE-Smart-Radio-to-Squeeze-OSp=727213viewfull=1#post727213, I thought it would be easier to call Logitech and ask them if newer radios could be downgraded. The phone tech support walked me through the usual debugging steps, and once stumped by the problem offered to replace the unit. The tech mentioned that based on the serial number, my problem Radio is a very recent manufacture. When I asked him if newer Radios had downgrade restrictions (as suggested by pippin in the post referenced above) he replied they did not and should all downgrade properly. Thanks to all who replied to my post. I will wait for the replacement Radio and hope it will downgrade properly. Did your replacement radio have the same issue? I'm experiencing the same issue with a Radio I just purchased and it is driving me crazy. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97436 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio refuses to upgrade (downgrade) firmware
I don't have a Radio, but I seem to remember reading somewhere that a slight change was made to the Radio hardware at some point during the production run. The change meant that all Radios with the newer hardware required 7.7+ versions of LMS. I hate to spread misinformation since I can't remember where I read it, but it sure seems like I read it somewhere azinck3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3967 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95401 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio refuses to upgrade (downgrade) firmware
azinck3 wrote: I don't have a Radio, but I seem to remember reading somewhere that a slight change was made to the Radio hardware at some point during the production run. The change meant that all Radios with the newer hardware required 7.7+ versions of LMS. I hate to spread misinformation since I can't remember where I read it, but it sure seems like I read it somewhere Can anybody confirm this? Andy or Michael - do you have some insight to this issue? In searching the forums, I see I'm not the only person experiencing this. I really don't want to take on upgrading my server software just to support the radio, which should work with 7.5.5. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95401 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
maggior wrote: It seems to have come with later firmware. I'm running 7.5.5 for my server. I managed to connect it to mysb.com and upgrade it to the firmware there. But, when I try to connect it to my local server, it fails to update the firmware. It starts and immediately fails. As I've understood the UE Smart Radio is unlikely to work with any Squeezebox firmware prior to 7.7, so I'm afraid you probably have to upgrade your server to be able to use the downgraded UE Smart Radio with local music. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
I don't have a UE smart radio, it's a squeezebox radio. I may have confused people because this thread is indeed about downgrading the UE smart radio. The only reason I posted here was I wanted to know if the manual firmware update procedure described here would be applicable to moving a squeezebox radio to a different FW version. I will be bummed if it turns out that the radio that I have is not compatable with 7.5.5. Tonight I will gather information on the hardware version. Perhaps it is a case that even though it isn't a UE smart radio, it essentially is due to the hardware revs. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio fails firmware update to 7.5.1 r9218
maggior wrote: Did your replacement radio have the same issue? I'm experiencing the same issue with a Radio I just purchased and it is driving me crazy. Maggior, I haven't received my replacement yet, but when I do, I will post the results immediately. It seems too much of a coincidence that newer radios don't download the firmware, so I'm afraid that my replacement will have the same problem. On the other hand, the two tech supports that I talked to were adamant that there were no changes to the Radio and ALL models should downgrade properly, so I'm hoping this is not a deliberate change that would lock out those of us who like the 7.5x version. rich.herbs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97436 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio fails firmware update to 7.5.1 r9218
rich.herbs wrote: Maggior, I haven't received my replacement yet, but when I do, I will post the results immediately. It seems too much of a coincidence that newer radios don't download the firmware, so I'm afraid that my replacement will have the same problem. On the other hand, the two tech supports that I talked to were adamant that there were no changes to the Radio and ALL models should downgrade properly, so I'm hoping this is not a deliberate change that would lock out those of us who like the 7.5x version. OK, I look forward to your results when you post them. Based on what I've read here in the past regarding the support people - I would take it with a grain of salt. They are sometimes misinformed on their end. I don't think it is a conincidence either. If I have any luck mucking about with my radio, I'll let everybody here know. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97436 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
maggior wrote: I don't have a UE smart radio, it's a squeezebox radio. I may have confused people because this thread is indeed about downgrading the UE smart radio. The only reason I posted here was I wanted to know if the manual firmware update procedure described here would be applicable to moving a squeezebox radio to a different FW version. I will be bummed if it turns out that the radio that I have is not compatable with 7.5.5. Tonight I will gather information on the hardware version. Perhaps it is a case that even though it isn't a UE smart radio, it essentially is due to the hardware revs. If it's a Radio purchased this year it likely have the same issues as UE Smart Radio. If it's an older Radio it should work to just connect it to an older Squeezebox Server version and if that doesn't work the manual downgrade procedure should work. Check the hardware revision by login via ssh and run: cat /proc/cpuinfo The hardware revision is listed at the end, something like this: Hardware: Logitech MX25 Baby Board Revision: 0005 If Revision is 0007 the Radio will likely only work with 7.7 firmware, but if it's 0005 or lower you should be able to downgrade it manually. If manual downgrade directly to 7.5.5 doesn't work, you can try to do it in steps, you will find the firmware files here: http://update.mysqueezebox.com/update/firmware/ erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
Simple test, run LMS 7.7.2 on a different computer (i.e. not the computer currently running your LMS 7.5), connect Radio to LMS 7.7.2, see if it connects. It won't update/downgrade cuz 7.7.2 is what your Radio currently has, having been connected to MySB.com. toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
erland wrote: If it's a Radio purchased this year it likely have the same issues as UE Smart Radio. If it's an older Radio it should work to just connect it to an older Squeezebox Server version and if that doesn't work the manual downgrade procedure should work. Check the hardware revision by login via ssh and run: cat /proc/cpuinfo The hardware revision is listed at the end, something like this: Hardware : Logitech MX25 Baby Board Revision : 0005 If Revision is 0007 the Radio will likely only work with 7.7 firmware, but if it's 0005 or lower you should be able to downgrade it manually. If manual downgrade directly to 7.5.5 doesn't work, you can try to do it in steps, you will find the firmware files here: http://update.mysqueezebox.com/update/firmware/ Thanks erland. You say the Radio will likely only work Do we have confirmation of this? It would be good to have a definitive answer on this to save other needlessly thrashing about trying to get something that won't work to work. It's always an adventure :-). Regarding tob10's suggestion - I do have a second system running lms as an experiment for my 2 logitech revues (another fun adventure!). I'll see what happens if I try to connect to it. By the time I thought to do that last night, I had just had enough and gave up. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Upgrade SB Radio to UE Radio
I want everyone on this, and related threads, to know how grateful I am for all the digging you did so that we can enjoy the Squeezebox experience on the Smart Radio. Here's what I've gained back with the 'downgrade': - Playlists (something I've spent a lot of time putting together) - Podcasts (I think the Squeezebox implementation is the best I've used for accessing podcasts 'on demand') - One echosystem for all my music and players - iPeng to control said echosystem (BTW, I LOVE the new UI on the latest version of iPeng) - Synchronization accross a single echosystem - Support for playback of hi res files - Anything else I may have left out Again, thanks very much everyone. ShutterShock's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3602 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
Well, I can definitely tell you about people who tried it (with a Squeezebox Radio) and it didn't work. The problem is that the radio pulls the update but then crashes on install so you've got a semi-brick and need to do a firmware reset. Logitech needs to communicate that, IMHO, it must give them a lot of sent-back devices of users who don't know what's going on and use an old server. It's a big mistake to not change the model name because this way the new devices will just automatically download and install an incompatible firmware if you just connect them to an old server. And nothing tells you that this would cause trouble, Kind of an auto-brick feature. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
Thanks pippin. I'm finding that it won't auto brick when you try to connect it to an older server, it just immediately fails with no details as to why. If I find that it is the new hardware, I won't waste my time trying to manually downgrade to the older firmware - I don't need to deal with unbricking my radio. I will consider upgrading to LMS for my main server. Other than that, Amazon is really great with returns :-). This a nice parting blow to us squeezebox users! Unbelievable...you can't even make this stuff up. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
Well, I think they just didn't think about it when bringing in the new hardware revision. Remember,mist always been a Slimdevices (even before Logitech times) philosophy that you should always use the latest server version with your device and match up firmware and server. I've been trying to tell them for years that its eventually going to hurt if your devices are not compatible to different server versions on the protocol level. Would eventually have become a real issue with the App hadn't they discontinued the platform, it's unbelievable how much code I have in iPeng just to cope with different server versions. Now all of that paid off nicely when doing iPeng UE, because UE works fine with my legacy code where it did not with the one for the current generation of LMS :) pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
pippin wrote: Well, I think they just didn't think about it when bringing in the new hardware revision. Remember,mist always been a Slimdevices (even before Logitech times) philosophy that you should always use the latest server version with your device and match up firmware and server. I thought that was the reason for the automatic fw upgrades/downgrades based on the server version - you were guaranteed to be running FW compatable with the server software. There, all they had to do was make sure that the interfaces required for upgrading/downgrading fw were front and backward compatable. I can see how it would be a nightmare and restrictive if you had to maintain full backward compatability to run any FW with any server. I'm realistic and don't expect the new radio FW to work with an old version of the server. What I do expect to work is the ability to automatically load the appropriate FW version for the server version I'm running. I've never encountered an issue with this until now. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
I speculate that the last production run of Radio realy is the UE hardware , they just did not care the match the transition . Given that Logitech does not care for user with a local server anymoore and mysqueezebox.com is always up to date . I think someone took a shortcut and hoped a small run of not really radios would just pass by unseen :) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
pippin wrote: Oh, then try to run a, say, Touch or Radio, with SqueezeCenter 7.3. Same thing, they don't work because there _is_ no working firmware for these devices and this server version. The one thing that's worse here is that you can't really distinguish the devices and nobody tells you and that not even the server knows that there's an incompatible player connecting. That I know - I certainly don't expect hardware that didn't exist when particular versions of server software were made to work. When new hardware would come out, you would have to upgrade to the new version of server software. The Radio has been around for years - certainly before 7.5.5 was released. I see where you are coming from - as an app you didn't have the luxury of saying my app only works with current/latest versions of squeezebox server. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
Yes. But also: this is what you've got here, too: it's a new hardware that only works with the server version available when it came to, it's just that you can't immediately see that it's a new hardware. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
pippin wrote: Yes. But also: this is what you've got here, too: it's a new hardware that only works with the server version available when it came to, it's just that you can't immediately see that it's a new hardware. That is truely evil if that is what is really going on! Ugh!! I'm starting to regret buying this Radio :-). maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
So my SB Radio is revision 0007 per a cat of /proc/cpuinfo. ...sigh... Sorry, but I'm going to vent... This absolutely ludicrous!! I don't care what actual hardware exists inside the box, it is a squeezebox radio (says so right on the case!). It's not a Radio Rev. 2, it's not a UE Smart Radio. It SHOULD support whatever software was designed to support the Radio. I find myself not feeling so bad about the demise of the squeezebox - this is just absurd. Sorry to the developers still working on this stuff - I'm sure it's not your fault, this smells of mismanagement. Talk about fodder for Scott Adams in his Dilbert strip! I will give LMS 7.7.2 (or whatever the latest is) a try. If I find there are issues using ALL of my other squeezeboxes with it, my Radio will quickly go back in it's box back to Amazon. It's just not worth it! Thankfully I didn't suggest my friend at work get a Radio - he got a Grace digital radio instead. Now I don't feel bad that I didn't suggest the Radio. OK, vent done. For those of you that may stumble on this thread, here's the deal. If you have a new squeezebox radio and it will update to the FW on mysb.com, but will not update to the version you run locally that is older than 7.7.2, you will have no choice but to upgrade to 7.7.2 of LMS. What you attempt the FW update to something 7.7.2, it will appear to start at 0%, and immediately fail. When it fails, the wifi icon will briefly turn to red and back to white. No matter what you do, it just won't update. Confirm this by ssh'ing into your radio and cat'ing /proc/cpuinfo. If you see revision 0007 at the end, you are definitely in this boat. If you attempt to play music with the newer FW on the radio with your 7.7.2 server, it will appear to play, but no sound will come out. Navigating menus will be slow. You try to reconnect to mysb.com and it will restart itself and upon reboot will send a crash report to logitech. Now you connect to mysb.com and it works as it should. Great stuff eh? You just can't make this stuff up. It's like Logitech is holding up its middle finger at us as they close the door to the squeezebox. Thanks a bunch guys, really appreciate it! (guess the rant wasn't quite done yet ;-). maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
Two things: I have seen worse server versions than 7.7.2, if you want all the bugs out, try 7.3 beta or 7.8 beta (this may have other bugs but I'm quite happy with it myself). The important part is to turn off the scanning for images and videos (no, this has nothing to do with album artwork) if you want it reliable. And then (although this is really nitpicking): the 7.7.x firmware will probably also work with a 7.6 server, just not with 7.5 or older. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio