[RBW] 70's 80's rear derailers at LBS
The owner of my LBS got bored last month and cleaned out his bone yard. He has put the following rear derailers out on the used parts table, at $20 each. Shimano 600 Arabesque Shimano 500 Suntour Accushift 4050 Suntour Accushift 3040 Suntour Cyclone Fuji (Suntour) VX All appear to be complete and in fair to good condition. He also put out a used Fuji/Nitto Olympiade 115 handlebar for $10. It's 37 cm wide (c-t-c) at the top bend and 39 cm (c-t-c) at the ends. They appear to be in good condition. I posted this to the fixed-gear list week but some of you may also be interested. The same LBS has their Fortezza and Fortezza Tri Comps on sale for, respectively, $34 and $40 each. The supply is very limited. There are 10 Tri Comps (1 pair each blue, yellow, and gray, and 4 all-black) and 3 all-black Fortezza's. He also has 9 Vittoria Open Corsa EVO's (1 pair red, 1 pair yellow, 2 pairs all black, 1 white) on sale for $35 each. All the tires are 700x23. If you're interested DON'T contact me. Contact Ben Hayes of Bluebonnet Bicycles in Lewisville, TX at 972.221.9322. I'm pretty sure he'll take phone orders and ship. I don't know if he would lower the price on a multi-unit order. richard -- Really, the biggest challenge we face is figuring out how to ride our bikes while maintaining the illusion that we're special. For some of us, the truth that we're not is even scarier than all that motor vehicle traffic. -- BikeSnobNYC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Choosing between a 650B and 700c frame
Hello - I'm a new member to the group, and I'm in the process of ordering an A. Homer Hilsen frame from Rivendell. I've been given the option of both the 650B frame (56cm) and the 700c frame (55cm). After conducting as much research as I can online and talking with my bike knowledgeable friends, I'm still finding the decision to be difficult. I'm not sure how much information I should give here, but I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts about my dilemma. My AHH will be primarily a commuter bike, but will also serve me on longer weekend rides and perhaps some light touring in the future. What I like about this bike is its ability to tackle a wider range of conditions - road and off-road (nothing gnarly, mind you) - and it is just a beautiful looking bike! In my adult life, I've only ever known my current ride - a Rocky Mountain Fusion mountain bike from the mid-90s. I'm looking forward to riding a bike much more suited to my style of riding. The Fusion makes me work pretty hard and it's h-e-a- v-y! Availability of the 650B wheels is my biggest issue. I have only found two stores locally that can help me out with this (they don't have anything in stock but would have to order), though I've not conducted an exhaustive search. Talking with the folks at the local stores was quite illuminating. The first kept telling me that the tire was a new fad - something for the folks who want to be different. The second had no idea what I was talking about. I'm not all that mechanically inclined, so I depend on my LBS (to my chagrin) - though I hope to change this in the future and become more adept at working on my bike. I'm leaning heavily toward the 650B because of the many things I've read about it on sites like 650B Palace (http:// 650bpalace.blogspot.com/) and La Confrérie des 650 (http://www.cyclos- cyclotes.org/650/index_ang.html). Even the Country Bike Shop (http:// www.countrybikeshop.com/) makes me feel the 650B is the choice I should make. But still a lingering doubt remains. I can't imagine I'll regret my decision, but I worry that I might. While I have you - the second part of this question might be what width should I get? And what brands/models do you recommend? I know much of this is subjective, but I'd be happy to read your thoughts. Thanks. Cheers, Zaelia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Choosing between a 650B and 700c frame
The first kept telling me that the tire was a new fad - something for the folks who want to be different. The second had no idea what I was talking about. I'm not all that mechanically inclined, so I depend on my LBS (to my chagrin) - though I hope to change this in the future and become more adept at working on my bike. 650B is not new, rather it is a once well known size that has come back. The advantage of the 650B size is it allows a larger tire without radically changing the bike design to prevent the bike from being too high. Case in point, I put Big Apple 700x60s on a bike roughly the size of a 59 Hilsen. Big Apples are wonderfully compliant and handling was fine. On the other hand, I had to lean the bike way over to get on and off. I did not like the noticeably higher distance I was from the ground while riding. If you intend to use wider tires - and there are several wonderful 40 and above 650b choices out there online if not in the LBS - you should seriously consider the 650b. If you don't think you will ever go above 35 or so, 700 may make sense. On Feb 7, 10:51 pm, Zaelia caddic...@gmail.com wrote: Hello - I'm a new member to the group, and I'm in the process of ordering an A. Homer Hilsen frame from Rivendell. I've been given the option of both the 650B frame (56cm) and the 700c frame (55cm). After conducting as much research as I can online and talking with my bike knowledgeable friends, I'm still finding the decision to be difficult. I'm not sure how much information I should give here, but I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts about my dilemma. My AHH will be primarily a commuter bike, but will also serve me on longer weekend rides and perhaps some light touring in the future. What I like about this bike is its ability to tackle a wider range of conditions - road and off-road (nothing gnarly, mind you) - and it is just a beautiful looking bike! In my adult life, I've only ever known my current ride - a Rocky Mountain Fusion mountain bike from the mid-90s. I'm looking forward to riding a bike much more suited to my style of riding. The Fusion makes me work pretty hard and it's h-e-a- v-y! Availability of the 650B wheels is my biggest issue. I have only found two stores locally that can help me out with this (they don't have anything in stock but would have to order), though I've not conducted an exhaustive search. Talking with the folks at the local stores was quite illuminating. The first kept telling me that the tire was a new fad - something for the folks who want to be different. The second had no idea what I was talking about. I'm not all that mechanically inclined, so I depend on my LBS (to my chagrin) - though I hope to change this in the future and become more adept at working on my bike. I'm leaning heavily toward the 650B because of the many things I've read about it on sites like 650B Palace (http:// 650bpalace.blogspot.com/) and La Confrérie des 650 (http://www.cyclos- cyclotes.org/650/index_ang.html). Even the Country Bike Shop (http://www.countrybikeshop.com/) makes me feel the 650B is the choice I should make. But still a lingering doubt remains. I can't imagine I'll regret my decision, but I worry that I might. While I have you - the second part of this question might be what width should I get? And what brands/models do you recommend? I know much of this is subjective, but I'd be happy to read your thoughts. Thanks. Cheers, Zaelia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Choosing between a 650B and 700c frame
If you're leaning towards the 650b frame, go for it. Don't worry about tire availability from your LBS- you can always order tires through the mail if you can't get them from the LBS. Maybe tell your LBS that you'll be ordering them yourself only because they don't carry them.650b has become popular b/c it really does offer great advantage in handling and geometry in some cases. I have a 650b bombadil myself. On Feb 7, 11:51 pm, Zaelia caddic...@gmail.com wrote: Hello - I'm a new member to the group, and I'm in the process of ordering an A. Homer Hilsen frame from Rivendell. I've been given the option of both the 650B frame (56cm) and the 700c frame (55cm). After conducting as much research as I can online and talking with my bike knowledgeable friends, I'm still finding the decision to be difficult. I'm not sure how much information I should give here, but I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts about my dilemma. My AHH will be primarily a commuter bike, but will also serve me on longer weekend rides and perhaps some light touring in the future. What I like about this bike is its ability to tackle a wider range of conditions - road and off-road (nothing gnarly, mind you) - and it is just a beautiful looking bike! In my adult life, I've only ever known my current ride - a Rocky Mountain Fusion mountain bike from the mid-90s. I'm looking forward to riding a bike much more suited to my style of riding. The Fusion makes me work pretty hard and it's h-e-a- v-y! Availability of the 650B wheels is my biggest issue. I have only found two stores locally that can help me out with this (they don't have anything in stock but would have to order), though I've not conducted an exhaustive search. Talking with the folks at the local stores was quite illuminating. The first kept telling me that the tire was a new fad - something for the folks who want to be different. The second had no idea what I was talking about. I'm not all that mechanically inclined, so I depend on my LBS (to my chagrin) - though I hope to change this in the future and become more adept at working on my bike. I'm leaning heavily toward the 650B because of the many things I've read about it on sites like 650B Palace (http:// 650bpalace.blogspot.com/) and La Confrérie des 650 (http://www.cyclos- cyclotes.org/650/index_ang.html). Even the Country Bike Shop (http://www.countrybikeshop.com/) makes me feel the 650B is the choice I should make. But still a lingering doubt remains. I can't imagine I'll regret my decision, but I worry that I might. While I have you - the second part of this question might be what width should I get? And what brands/models do you recommend? I know much of this is subjective, but I'd be happy to read your thoughts. Thanks. Cheers, Zaelia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Choosing between a 650B and 700c frame
Go with 650b. If you're worried about tire and rim availability order up some extra rims at some point and even a set of Schwalbe 650b tires to have as back-up, those things will see you cycling through the apocalypse. More importantly than tire size, what color will your new frame be? --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riding my Atlantis fom SF to Long Beach
What a great trip. For those who don't know, Mark runs a local (San Francisco) messenger bag company, which makes a very cool Zero Waste bag --- all the little pieces that are cut from the fabric are used in its design. He also doesn't use pvc and other eco-unfriendly products. Most of all, the fabric designs are super-cool. It's called Rickshaw Bagworks. Check it out. Greg (no affiliation with Rickshaw; just an enthusiastic customer) On Feb 7, 8:58 am, mmdwight mmdwi...@gmail.com wrote: Just thought I'd shout out to the RBW enthusiasts. I'm on my second annual 500-mile trek down Highway 1 from SF to Long Beach to attend the TED conference and raise some money for a homeless youth project in SF. I'm also celebrating my 50th birthday in three weeks, so I decided this was a good way to start my new decade. Cycling helps keep you young! My Atlantis is a great ride. I've got 338 miles on the odometer so far this trip, with 180 more to reach Long Beach. It's been soggy for the past two days, but looks like clear weather today. If you're interested, I'm sending updates via Twitter (markdwight). Cheers! -Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Choosing between a 650B and 700c frame
It doesn't matter much. Your LBS doesn't stock 650B, but they probably don't stock the nicer mid-width 700C rubber either. On Feb 7, 10:51 pm, Zaelia caddic...@gmail.com wrote: Hello - I'm a new member to the group, and I'm in the process of ordering an A. Homer Hilsen frame from Rivendell. I've been given the option of both the 650B frame (56cm) and the 700c frame (55cm). After conducting as much research as I can online and talking with my bike knowledgeable friends, I'm still finding the decision to be difficult. I'm not sure how much information I should give here, but I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts about my dilemma. My AHH will be primarily a commuter bike, but will also serve me on longer weekend rides and perhaps some light touring in the future. What I like about this bike is its ability to tackle a wider range of conditions - road and off-road (nothing gnarly, mind you) - and it is just a beautiful looking bike! In my adult life, I've only ever known my current ride - a Rocky Mountain Fusion mountain bike from the mid-90s. I'm looking forward to riding a bike much more suited to my style of riding. The Fusion makes me work pretty hard and it's h-e-a- v-y! Availability of the 650B wheels is my biggest issue. I have only found two stores locally that can help me out with this (they don't have anything in stock but would have to order), though I've not conducted an exhaustive search. Talking with the folks at the local stores was quite illuminating. The first kept telling me that the tire was a new fad - something for the folks who want to be different. The second had no idea what I was talking about. I'm not all that mechanically inclined, so I depend on my LBS (to my chagrin) - though I hope to change this in the future and become more adept at working on my bike. I'm leaning heavily toward the 650B because of the many things I've read about it on sites like 650B Palace (http:// 650bpalace.blogspot.com/) and La Confrérie des 650 (http://www.cyclos- cyclotes.org/650/index_ang.html). Even the Country Bike Shop (http://www.countrybikeshop.com/) makes me feel the 650B is the choice I should make. But still a lingering doubt remains. I can't imagine I'll regret my decision, but I worry that I might. While I have you - the second part of this question might be what width should I get? And what brands/models do you recommend? I know much of this is subjective, but I'd be happy to read your thoughts. Thanks. Cheers, Zaelia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Choosing between a 650B and 700c frame
On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 20:51 -0800, Zaelia wrote: Availability of the 650B wheels is my biggest issue. I have only found two stores locally that can help me out with this (they don't have anything in stock but would have to order), though I've not conducted an exhaustive search. Talking with the folks at the local stores was quite illuminating. The first kept telling me that the tire was a new fad - something for the folks who want to be different. A tire size that's almost 100 years old as a new fad -- that's cute. The second had no idea what I was talking about. I'm not all that mechanically inclined, so I depend on my LBS (to my chagrin) - though I hope to change this in the future and become more adept at working on my bike. I'm reminded of the time I went to my LBS, listed on the Phil Wood web site as a stocking dealer, and asked about a Phil bottom bracket. The kid behind the counter told me they'd gone out of business years ago, they don't make anything like that [i.e., a square taper bottom bracket] any more. I wrote to the Phil Wood company, and they called the LBS... Local bike shops are full of the clueless. That said, it's true you won't find many bike shops stocking 650B tires and rims. Of course, you won't find many LBSs stocking rims of any size, and my LBS in the 700x23C size sells only the Specialized Armadillo. That hardly means the Armadillo is the only 23mm tire out there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] MKS Grip Kings...and other goodies
Beauty, Bob! I just put an Acorn medium bag on my quickbeam, too. Great bags, those! Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Robert F. Harrison Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 1:40 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] MKS Grip Kings...and other goodies I just switched from the MKS Touring Pedals to the MKS Grip Kings on my Quickbeam. They arrived yesterday but as I was off to movies I didn't get a chance to give them a workout till today. Last night I opened them up to see if they had sufficient grease. My touring pedals did not as I've discussed earlier. These looked fine, but to be on the safe side I added a bit more. Then today I was able to give them a nice mid-winter 30 mile spin. Of course, mid-winter in Hawaii is pretty nice. :-) I really like these pedals. The held my Timberland sandals very, very well. I'd have to say they were better with these sandals than the touring pedals for me; your mileage may vary. Besides the Grip Kings I've also gone to the Pletscher Double Kickstand. I really don't notice the extra weight and I love the added convenience. I've also put on my new Acorn Medium Bag. I love my huge Sackville SaddleSack but I found myself on the Acorn site on the first of the month and...well it was hard not to order one. I should really only visit them in the middle of the month when they are sold out for the month. I'm still waiting for my Platrack and SlickSack which should be here any day now. Can one have too many bags? So here's my QB taking a break with all it's new goodies. I was also taking a break so I could watch the sunset. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/sets/72157623376514534/ Aloha! Bob -- Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com statrixblog.statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Choosing between a 650B and 700c frame
I'd choose 700c because it makes it easier on myself to just stock 700c tires and tubes. Plus, there's just more 700c tires to choose for myself .. but everyone is different so one must know oneself . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Choosing between a 650B and 700c frame
Along the lines of Joel's response, 650B lets you have a tire with more air inside of it in the same general overall diameter as the skinny 700s do. (Overall diameter = the rim bsd + (2)* the tire height. 650B has a 38mm smaller bsd, but you can put a tire 17mm larger on it in the case of a 584x40 instead of a 622x23 and be close in diameter) In actual practice, it tends to lower the frame toward the ground, which is great for me, a short stature rider. There is also a small effect on handling, but not enough to make me like it more or less. There are fewer tire choices by far in 650B, but enough to go around, and you will become adept at bookmarking the sites that sell them. I have become quite fond of the 650B size and have no more bikes with 700 size tires anymore. Tailwinds! From: JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 9:36:30 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: Choosing between a 650B and 700c frame The first kept telling me that the tire was a new fad - something for the folks who want to be different. The second had no idea what I was talking about. I'm not all that mechanically inclined, so I depend on my LBS (to my chagrin) - though I hope to change this in the future and become more adept at working on my bike. 650B is not new, rather it is a once well known size that has come back. The advantage of the 650B size is it allows a larger tire without radically changing the bike design to prevent the bike from being too high. Case in point, I put Big Apple 700x60s on a bike roughly the size of a 59 Hilsen. Big Apples are wonderfully compliant and handling was fine. On the other hand, I had to lean the bike way over to get on and off. I did not like the noticeably higher distance I was from the ground while riding. If you intend to use wider tires - and there are several wonderful 40 and above 650b choices out there online if not in the LBS - you should seriously consider the 650b. If you don't think you will ever go above 35 or so, 700 may make sense. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: sunrace 8 speed cassettes
I'd want to actually see the Sunrace 12-32 cassette before buying one. I bought a Performance bike Forte cassette . which I'm pretty sure is made by Sunrace but returned it because the 12t cog was shockingly sparse of metal in the wrong place. There's no way in heck I'd trust it not to break. Hardly worth saving a few $$ for the hazard. The only other 12-32 8sp. cassette is made by IRD. Shi!mano has abandoned 12-32's altogether. Simplicity rules . I'm sticking with FW's :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: sunrace 8 speed cassettes
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: I'd want to actually see the Sunrace 12-32 cassette before buying one. I bought a Performance bike Forte cassette . which I'm pretty sure is made by Sunrace but returned it because the 12t cog was shockingly sparse of metal in the wrong place. There's no way in heck I'd trust it not to break. Hardly worth saving a few $$ for the hazard. The only other 12-32 8sp. cassette is made by IRD. Shi!mano has abandoned 12-32's altogether. http://www.sunrace.com/en/products/detail/m60?sku=CSM66 Is the only place I've seen them. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Choosing between a 650B and 700c frame
on 2/7/10 8:51 PM, Zaelia at caddic...@gmail.com wrote: Availability of the 650B wheels is my biggest issue. I have only found two stores locally that can help me out with this (they don't have anything in stock but would have to order), though I've not conducted an exhaustive search. Talking with the folks at the local stores was quite illuminating. The first kept telling me that the tire was a new fad - something for the folks who want to be different. The second had no idea what I was talking about. I'm not all that mechanically inclined, so I depend on my LBS (to my chagrin) - though I hope to change this in the future and become more adept at working on my bike. I think Hiawatha Jim had a salient observation - ask them what large volume 700C tires they stock. It may also be that you've got a shop that's grumpy because they are not selling you a bike. If you are going to rely upon one or the other for technical issues, you might want to start that dialog now. It would be good to know if either shop thinks you're just going mailorder and giving the business to someone else. A little good natured ribbing about fenders, low-pressure tires and non-STI shifters is one thing, but open insolence is quite another. Any good shop with a qualified service department should realize they can make money with a customer who needs technical help, but sometimes ego gets in the way. I'm leaning heavily toward the 650B because of the many things I've read about it on sites like 650B Palace (http:// 650bpalace.blogspot.com/) and La Confrérie des 650 (http://www.cyclos- cyclotes.org/650/index_ang.html). Even the Country Bike Shop (http:// www.countrybikeshop.com/) makes me feel the 650B is the choice I should make. But still a lingering doubt remains. I can't imagine I'll regret my decision, but I worry that I might. I don't think it ultimately makes all that much difference, as you are getting a bicycle designed with sincere clearance in either wheel size. I think the only compelling reason to go for a 700C/622 would be if you wanted to mount cyclocross style knibblie tires on it. The 650B/584 knobbies tend towards more traditional mtb tires, and may be a little too large to fit. But, that's really reaching for reasons in my book. I'd go with 650B/584 if that is what is exciting and makes sense to you. The worst that may happen is that you'll have to factor in a longer order time if they get scarce. Good luck and welcome to the group! - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Send In Your Photos! - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines That which is overdesigned, too highly specific, anticipates outcome; the anticipation of outcome guarantees, if not failure, the absence of grace. William Gibson - All Tomorrow's Parties -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Choosing between a 650B and 700c frame
There are two advantages of 650B, as far as I can tell. One is that it lets you run a fatter tire of the same diameter of a thinner 700c tire. If you don't need fatter tires, then go with 700c. The second is that it lets you use a smaller wheel, assuming you don't increase it to 700c size by said fatter tires, which may be a good choice for some smaller people who need smaller frames, or simply for weirdos like me who like smaller wheels in larger frames (tho' I go all the way down to the 559 and 571 sizes). Note too that some of the advantage of fatter, 650b tires is gained by skinnier 700c tires simply because they are 1 1/2 inch bigger in diameter -- all things equal, larger diameters roll more easily (said one who knows by (a) his 29er compared to his 26ers, annd (2) because he has favored 559 sized road wheels.) And, fwiw, I have read that increasing the *diameter* a certain % reduces rolling resistance by some multiple of the reduction brought about by merely increasing the tire width by that same % -- studies done by the British government back in the later 18th century to help carriage makers design wheels that would travel better on their new, McAdamized and Telford-ized gravel roads. On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Zaelia caddic...@gmail.com wrote: Hello - I'm a new member to the group, and I'm in the process of ordering an A. Homer Hilsen frame from Rivendell. I've been given the option of both the 650B frame (56cm) and the 700c frame (55cm). After conducting as much research as I can online and talking with my bike knowledgeable friends, I'm still finding the decision to be difficult. I'm not sure how much information I should give here, but I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts about my dilemma. My AHH will be primarily a commuter bike, but will also serve me on longer weekend rides and perhaps some light touring in the future. What I like about this bike is its ability to tackle a wider range of conditions - road and off-road (nothing gnarly, mind you) - and it is just a beautiful looking bike! In my adult life, I've only ever known my current ride - a Rocky Mountain Fusion mountain bike from the mid-90s. I'm looking forward to riding a bike much more suited to my style of riding. The Fusion makes me work pretty hard and it's h-e-a- v-y! Availability of the 650B wheels is my biggest issue. I have only found two stores locally that can help me out with this (they don't have anything in stock but would have to order), though I've not conducted an exhaustive search. Talking with the folks at the local stores was quite illuminating. The first kept telling me that the tire was a new fad - something for the folks who want to be different. The second had no idea what I was talking about. I'm not all that mechanically inclined, so I depend on my LBS (to my chagrin) - though I hope to change this in the future and become more adept at working on my bike. I'm leaning heavily toward the 650B because of the many things I've read about it on sites like 650B Palace (http:// 650bpalace.blogspot.com/) and La Confrérie des 650 (http://www.cyclos- cyclotes.org/650/index_ang.html). Even the Country Bike Shop (http:// www.countrybikeshop.com/) makes me feel the 650B is the choice I should make. But still a lingering doubt remains. I can't imagine I'll regret my decision, but I worry that I might. While I have you - the second part of this question might be what width should I get? And what brands/models do you recommend? I know much of this is subjective, but I'd be happy to read your thoughts. Thanks. Cheers, Zaelia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Choosing between a 650B and 700c frame
Zaelia, Maybe mention what area you live in. People could probably give you a recommendation for a 650b friendly shop in the general area. Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] MKS Grip Kings...and other goodies
The official bearing-prep for the cheaper MKS pedals is to dribble'em full of Phil Tenacious and then ride them smooth. It has worked well for me. That's a nice looking bike. how do you like the M-bars? I tried literally a dozen different times to like M bars but never could and, when I put them high and back, they felt even more awkward -- they were least bad when positioned as are my drop bars. On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 11:40 PM, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.comwrote: I just switched from the MKS Touring Pedals to the MKS Grip Kings on my Quickbeam. They arrived yesterday but as I was off to movies I didn't get a chance to give them a workout till today. Last night I opened them up to see if they had sufficient grease. My touring pedals did not as I've discussed earlier. These looked fine, but to be on the safe side I added a bit more. Then today I was able to give them a nice mid-winter 30 mile spin. Of course, mid-winter in Hawaii is pretty nice. :-) I really like these pedals. The held my Timberland sandals very, very well. I'd have to say they were better with these sandals than the touring pedals for me; your mileage may vary. Besides the Grip Kings I've also gone to the Pletscher Double Kickstand. I really don't notice the extra weight and I love the added convenience. I've also put on my new Acorn Medium Bag. I love my huge Sackville SaddleSack but I found myself on the Acorn site on the first of the month and...well it was hard not to order one. I should really only visit them in the middle of the month when they are sold out for the month. I'm still waiting for my Platrack and SlickSack which should be here any day now. Can one have too many bags? So here's my QB taking a break with all it's new goodies. I was also taking a break so I could watch the sunset. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/sets/72157623376514534/ Aloha! Bob -- Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com statrixblog.statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Cassettes
All this talk about cassettes reminded me that I still have an 8-speed Shimano HG cassette looking for a home (I don't use Shimano). 11-28 cogs, brand new in the package. Make me a decent offer and it's yours. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Choosing between a 650B and 700c frame
I have owned to Bleriots at two different times. All of my riding is on pavement with only the occasional fire road or hard pack. While I like variety and can understand the 650b choice, for my riding it was an answer/option to a problem or riding situation that did not exist for me. My Fuji Touring has room for 700c to at leat 32 with fenders installed and that completely alleviates the desire/need for me and 650b. In the end, I prefer faster and lighter to balooney and heavier. Give me a pair of Open Pros on Ultegra hubs and Roly Poly's or Challenge Parigi Roubaix and I am a happy guy. On Feb 8, 9:51 am, Doug Van Cleve dvancl...@gmail.com wrote: Lots of good answers already. Most likely you'll be ordering wheel goods (including tires) so 650B vs. 700C doesn't matter much. In a pinch, 700C will be easier to find locally but I don't think that should really affect your decision. A couple things that I don't think have been mentioned that might influence you one way or the other are appearance of the frame and interchangeability. In a 55-56cm frame size (mine FWIW), the 650B frame will look a bit bigger which can be a good thing in a small to mid-size bike IMHO. To me, something in the 56-58cm size is the best looking frame and a 650B frame looks about like a 700C frame that is 1-2cm taller. Second thought, since the AHH uses caliper brakes, there is nothing preventing you from running not-too-fat 700C wheels and tires on the 650B version. You will most likely need standard reach brakes as opposed to the long reach Silver/Tektros, but you should be able to fit up to about a 32mm 700C tire (most likely without fenders though). It may not be optimum, but I suspect everything would still fall into the normal range for a 700C bike. That said, a 700C bike from RBW is very versatile and you can do some fairly serious off-roading (underbiking in RBW parlance) on 32mm+ width 700C tires... Regards, Doug On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Zaelia caddic...@gmail.com wrote: Hello - I'm a new member to the group, and I'm in the process of ordering an A. Homer Hilsen frame from Rivendell. I've been given the option of both the 650B frame (56cm) and the 700c frame (55cm). After conducting as much research as I can online and talking with my bike knowledgeable friends, I'm still finding the decision to be difficult. I'm not sure how much information I should give here, but I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts about my dilemma. My AHH will be primarily a commuter bike, but will also serve me on longer weekend rides and perhaps some light touring in the future. What I like about this bike is its ability to tackle a wider range of conditions - road and off-road (nothing gnarly, mind you) - and it is just a beautiful looking bike! In my adult life, I've only ever known my current ride - a Rocky Mountain Fusion mountain bike from the mid-90s. I'm looking forward to riding a bike much more suited to my style of riding. The Fusion makes me work pretty hard and it's h-e-a- v-y! Availability of the 650B wheels is my biggest issue. I have only found two stores locally that can help me out with this (they don't have anything in stock but would have to order), though I've not conducted an exhaustive search. Talking with the folks at the local stores was quite illuminating. The first kept telling me that the tire was a new fad - something for the folks who want to be different. The second had no idea what I was talking about. I'm not all that mechanically inclined, so I depend on my LBS (to my chagrin) - though I hope to change this in the future and become more adept at working on my bike. I'm leaning heavily toward the 650B because of the many things I've read about it on sites like 650B Palace (http:// 650bpalace.blogspot.com/) and La Confrérie des 650 (http://www.cyclos- cyclotes.org/650/index_ang.html). Even the Country Bike Shop (http:// www.countrybikeshop.com/) makes me feel the 650B is the choice I should make. But still a lingering doubt remains. I can't imagine I'll regret my decision, but I worry that I might. While I have you - the second part of this question might be what width should I get? And what brands/models do you recommend? I know much of this is subjective, but I'd be happy to read your thoughts. Thanks. Cheers, Zaelia- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Choosing between a 650B and 700c frame
My thoughts exactly, I end up ordering almost everything, even with 6 or 7 shops within riding distance. Kind of sad - Rob On Feb 8, 7:57 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: It doesn't matter much. Your LBS doesn't stock 650B, but they probably don't stock the nicer mid-width 700C rubber either. On Feb 7, 10:51 pm, Zaelia caddic...@gmail.com wrote: Hello - I'm a new member to the group, and I'm in the process of ordering an A. Homer Hilsen frame from Rivendell. I've been given the option of both the 650B frame (56cm) and the 700c frame (55cm). After conducting as much research as I can online and talking with my bike knowledgeable friends, I'm still finding the decision to be difficult. I'm not sure how much information I should give here, but I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts about my dilemma. My AHH will be primarily a commuter bike, but will also serve me on longer weekend rides and perhaps some light touring in the future. What I like about this bike is its ability to tackle a wider range of conditions - road and off-road (nothing gnarly, mind you) - and it is just a beautiful looking bike! In my adult life, I've only ever known my current ride - a Rocky Mountain Fusion mountain bike from the mid-90s. I'm looking forward to riding a bike much more suited to my style of riding. The Fusion makes me work pretty hard and it's h-e-a- v-y! Availability of the 650B wheels is my biggest issue. I have only found two stores locally that can help me out with this (they don't have anything in stock but would have to order), though I've not conducted an exhaustive search. Talking with the folks at the local stores was quite illuminating. The first kept telling me that the tire was a new fad - something for the folks who want to be different. The second had no idea what I was talking about. I'm not all that mechanically inclined, so I depend on my LBS (to my chagrin) - though I hope to change this in the future and become more adept at working on my bike. I'm leaning heavily toward the 650B because of the many things I've read about it on sites like 650B Palace (http:// 650bpalace.blogspot.com/) and La Confrérie des 650 (http://www.cyclos- cyclotes.org/650/index_ang.html). Even the Country Bike Shop (http://www.countrybikeshop.com/) makes me feel the 650B is the choice I should make. But still a lingering doubt remains. I can't imagine I'll regret my decision, but I worry that I might. While I have you - the second part of this question might be what width should I get? And what brands/models do you recommend? I know much of this is subjective, but I'd be happy to read your thoughts. Thanks. Cheers, Zaelia- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] MKS Grip Kings...and other goodies
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 7:27 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: The official bearing-prep for the cheaper MKS pedals is to dribble'em full of Phil Tenacious and then ride them smooth. It has worked well for me. They are great pedals once they've smoothed out. Unfortunately I don't think most folks figure out the official bearing-prep until after their first experience with less than smooth cheaper MKS pedals. My touring pedals, till I lubed them up, made me think a had a bad bottom bracket, mismatched components, a funky frame, all of it, or worse. As it turns out, the right pedal was too dry. :-) Now I know. That's a nice looking bike. how do you like the M-bars? I tried literally a dozen different times to like M bars but never could and, when I put them high and back, they felt even more awkward -- they were least bad when positioned as are my drop bars. I really like them. In fact, I more or less fell in love with them when I was at Riv back in March last year and tested a Bomba with those bars. Now that I've ridden several hundred miles with my QB both commuting and on longer country rides (60+ miles), the only thing I'm thinking about is increasing the diameter a bit at the ends of the bars which I think would make them a bit more comfortable when I'm climbing and am pulling on them a bit. Aloha! -- Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com statrixblog.statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] SFR Two Rock/Valley Ford 200K Ride Report
I was lucky enough to ride with some friends on the 200K on Saturday. Drove from San Diego... and I might just have to do it again. There were a lot of sensible, purpose-built bikes on the ride: Rivendells, Kogswells, Ebisus, Pelicans, and a variety of customs along with the typical MCRBs. I absolutely enjoyed the ride, and somehow, felt just great the whole time. Photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/sets/72157623251904639/ Write-up: http://veloflaneur.wordpress.com/2010/02/08/my-first-brevet/ Regards, Esteban San Diego, Calif. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] SFR Two Rock/Valley Ford 200K Ride Report
Thanks. Much better than my friend's summary: Rained for a few hours, then got nice. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org On Feb 8, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Esteban wrote: I was lucky enough to ride with some friends on the 200K on Saturday. Drove from San Diego... and I might just have to do it again. There were a lot of sensible, purpose-built bikes on the ride: Rivendells, Kogswells, Ebisus, Pelicans, and a variety of customs along with the typical MCRBs. I absolutely enjoyed the ride, and somehow, felt just great the whole time. Photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/sets/72157623251904639/ Write-up: http://veloflaneur.wordpress.com/2010/02/08/my-first-brevet/ Regards, Esteban San Diego, Calif. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Choosing between a 650B and 700c frame
Just for clarity -- you've test ridden both the 650B- and 700C-wheeled bikes, right? Which did you prefer? -Jim G On Feb 7, 8:51 pm, Zaelia caddic...@gmail.com wrote: Hello - I'm a new member to the group, and I'm in the process of ordering an A. Homer Hilsen frame from Rivendell. I've been given the option of both the 650B frame (56cm) and the 700c frame (55cm). After conducting as much research as I can online and talking with my bike knowledgeable friends, I'm still finding the decision to be difficult. I'm not sure how much information I should give here, but I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts about my dilemma. My AHH will be primarily a commuter bike, but will also serve me on longer weekend rides and perhaps some light touring in the future. What I like about this bike is its ability to tackle a wider range of conditions - road and off-road (nothing gnarly, mind you) - and it is just a beautiful looking bike! In my adult life, I've only ever known my current ride - a Rocky Mountain Fusion mountain bike from the mid-90s. I'm looking forward to riding a bike much more suited to my style of riding. The Fusion makes me work pretty hard and it's h-e-a- v-y! Availability of the 650B wheels is my biggest issue. I have only found two stores locally that can help me out with this (they don't have anything in stock but would have to order), though I've not conducted an exhaustive search. Talking with the folks at the local stores was quite illuminating. The first kept telling me that the tire was a new fad - something for the folks who want to be different. The second had no idea what I was talking about. I'm not all that mechanically inclined, so I depend on my LBS (to my chagrin) - though I hope to change this in the future and become more adept at working on my bike. I'm leaning heavily toward the 650B because of the many things I've read about it on sites like 650B Palace (http:// 650bpalace.blogspot.com/) and La Confrérie des 650 (http://www.cyclos- cyclotes.org/650/index_ang.html). Even the Country Bike Shop (http://www.countrybikeshop.com/) makes me feel the 650B is the choice I should make. But still a lingering doubt remains. I can't imagine I'll regret my decision, but I worry that I might. While I have you - the second part of this question might be what width should I get? And what brands/models do you recommend? I know much of this is subjective, but I'd be happy to read your thoughts. Thanks. Cheers, Zaelia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] XO-1 to Atlantis
Since I've read that the XO-1 is the predecessor to the Atlantis I'm hoping this isn't off group / topic. I actually took possession of an Atlantis frame last Monday and a purple 1992 X0-1 yesterday. How many is to many? Anyhow, the adjusting bolt on the XO-1 DiaCompe BRS300 front brake is missing the adjusting screw so the adjustment can only be made at the pinch bolt. I did a quick google search and it doesn't appear a replacement is readily available. Is there an alternative part I should think about. Should I look into wide mouth Silver's? Any thoughts or experience appreciated. As always thanks for the wealth of knowledge here. Mitch. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] XO-1 to Atlantis
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Mitch Browne mitch.bro...@gmail.com wrote: Since I've read that the XO-1 is the predecessor to the Atlantis I'm hoping this isn't off group / topic. I actually took possession of an Atlantis frame last Monday and a purple 1992 X0-1 yesterday. How many is to many? Anyhow, the adjusting bolt on the XO-1 DiaCompe BRS300 front brake is missing the adjusting screw so the adjustment can only be made at the pinch bolt. I did a quick google search and it doesn't appear a replacement is readily available. Is there an alternative part I should think about. Should I look into wide mouth Silver's? Any thoughts or experience appreciated. As always thanks for the wealth of knowledge here. Mitch. Have you checked loosescrews.com for the part you need? -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] XO-1 to Atlantis
The bikes are different enough that it's quite possible that you can enjoy both in unique ways. (Sorry, I don't have any advice on the parts question.) -Original Message- From: Mitch Browne mitch.bro...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 8, 2010 3:33 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] XO-1 to Atlantis Since I've read that the XO-1 is the predecessor to the Atlantis I'm hoping this isn't off group / topic. I actually took possession of an Atlantis frame last Monday and a purple 1992 X0-1 yesterday. How many is to many? Anyhow, the adjusting bolt on the XO-1 DiaCompe BRS300 front brake is missing the adjusting screw so the adjustment can only be made at the pinch bolt. I did a quick google search and it doesn't appear a replacement is readily available. Is there an alternative part I should think about. Should I look into wide mouth Silver's? Any thoughts or experience appreciated. As always thanks for the wealth of knowledge here. Mitch. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: sunrace 8 speed cassettes
I've used Performance Forte 12-32 8 speed twice. For me, they last about 3-4k miles before shifting deteriorates in the middle cogs (16-18-21). No big deal, just a bit slower going to the next larger cog. At the price they are a good value. I assume an outside vendor makes these for Performance. dougP On Feb 6, 5:53 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone have any experience/comments on the sunrace 8sp cassettes? http://www.sunrace.com/en/products/detail/m60?sku=CSM66 specifically their 12-32 seems like a nice range for $15. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: One Gallon Of Boeshield
If you have a Harbor Freight outlet in your area, they have a re- usable aerosol can. Fill with liquid pump up with a bike pump to spray. Mine doesn't hold pressure very long but works well enough. dougP On Feb 7, 8:15 pm, muckum toddjeffr...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Try this.http://www.amazon.com/AES-Industries-124-Refillable-Aerosol/dp/B002D3... we use something like this for powder coat paint touch ups. On Feb 6, 1:05 pm, Mitch Browne mitch.bro...@gmail.com wrote: Subject line says all ;) I have a one gallon can of Boeshield and I'm asking for methods of dispensing it. Does anyone have experience with reusable aerosol cans? I have an Atlantis frame I'd like to frame proof but don't know if I can spray this. Also, I know I can refill the 4oz Boeshield bottle for chain lube but wonder if there are other suggestions for small containers like to 1oz bottle with fine tip. Thanks all.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: classic lycra jerseys.
Not vintage, but I think classic is the appropriate word. Anyway, I was digging through stuff I am not using and came up with a hand full of jerseys. I have a nice Cycles Peugeot in French flag colors, and an older Pearl Izumi I thought may be of use to someone here. I am 5'9 and @ 145-155lbs depending on pasta consumption / riding ratio. Make me an offer. Group shot in here: http://tinyurl.com/lg56lg Drop me a line if interested! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Choosing between a 650B and 700c frame
For myself, the 650B would be a clear choice. The extra width helps in bad road conditions, e.g. chipseal or sand on paved road, and clearly dirt roads. The 650 wheels seem strong. I am heavy and have not had any wheel issues in two years on my Bleriot. You can easily get all the tires and tubes you need on the internet. The col de la vie (sp?) is a great tire, 38 mm (or so) wide and cheap. Jim D. Massachusetts --- On Mon, 2/8/10, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: From: PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Choosing between a 650B and 700c frame To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 12:16 PM There are two advantages of 650B, as far as I can tell. One is that it lets you run a fatter tire of the same diameter of a thinner 700c tire. If you don't need fatter tires, then go with 700c. The second is that it lets you use a smaller wheel, assuming you don't increase it to 700c size by said fatter tires, which may be a good choice for some smaller people who need smaller frames, or simply for weirdos like me who like smaller wheels in larger frames (tho' I go all the way down to the 559 and 571 sizes). Note too that some of the advantage of fatter, 650b tires is gained by skinnier 700c tires simply because they are 1 1/2 inch bigger in diameter -- all things equal, larger diameters roll more easily (said one who knows by (a) his 29er compared to his 26ers, annd (2) because he has favored 559 sized road wheels.) And, fwiw, I have read that increasing the *diameter* a certain % reduces rolling resistance by some multiple of the reduction brought about by merely increasing the tire width by that same % -- studies done by the British government back in the later 18th century to help carriage makers design wheels that would travel better on their new, McAdamized and Telford-ized gravel roads. On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Zaelia caddic...@gmail.com wrote: Hello - I'm a new member to the group, and I'm in the process of ordering an A. Homer Hilsen frame from Rivendell. I've been given the option of both the 650B frame (56cm) and the 700c frame (55cm). After conducting as much research as I can online and talking with my bike knowledgeable friends, I'm still finding the decision to be difficult. I'm not sure how much information I should give here, but I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts about my dilemma. My AHH will be primarily a commuter bike, but will also serve me on longer weekend rides and perhaps some light touring in the future. What I like about this bike is its ability to tackle a wider range of conditions - road and off-road (nothing gnarly, mind you) - and it is just a beautiful looking bike! In my adult life, I've only ever known my current ride - a Rocky Mountain Fusion mountain bike from the mid-90s. I'm looking forward to riding a bike much more suited to my style of riding. The Fusion makes me work pretty hard and it's h-e-a- v-y! Availability of the 650B wheels is my biggest issue. I have only found two stores locally that can help me out with this (they don't have anything in stock but would have to order), though I've not conducted an exhaustive search. Talking with the folks at the local stores was quite illuminating. The first kept telling me that the tire was a new fad - something for the folks who want to be different. The second had no idea what I was talking about. I'm not all that mechanically inclined, so I depend on my LBS (to my chagrin) - though I hope to change this in the future and become more adept at working on my bike. I'm leaning heavily toward the 650B because of the many things I've read about it on sites like 650B Palace (http:// 650bpalace.blogspot.com/) and La Confrérie des 650 (http://www.cyclos- cyclotes.org/650/index_ang.html). Even the Country Bike Shop (http:// www.countrybikeshop.com/) makes me feel the 650B is the choice I should make. But still a lingering doubt remains. I can't imagine I'll regret my decision, but I worry that I might. While I have you - the second part of this question might be what width should I get? And what brands/models do you recommend? I know much of this is subjective, but I'd be happy to read your thoughts. Thanks. Cheers, Zaelia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To
Re: [RBW] SFR Two Rock/Valley Ford 200K Ride Report
Nice report, Esteban. It was a great ride, and it was nice to pedal along with other first time randonneurs! :) I'm glad you took photos, since I couldn't find my camera that morning while busily packing my boxy bag full of food and rushing off to the bridge in the early morning darkness. Who's up for the Russian River 300K besides Will and me? :) -nathan On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I was lucky enough to ride with some friends on the 200K on Saturday. Drove from San Diego... and I might just have to do it again. There were a lot of sensible, purpose-built bikes on the ride: Rivendells, Kogswells, Ebisus, Pelicans, and a variety of customs along with the typical MCRBs. I absolutely enjoyed the ride, and somehow, felt just great the whole time. Photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/sets/72157623251904639/ Write-up: http://veloflaneur.wordpress.com/2010/02/08/my-first-brevet/ Regards, Esteban San Diego, Calif. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] SFR Two Rock/Valley Ford 200K Ride Report
If I drive up to ride it can I use it as an excuse to order an Ebisu like Esteban? I'll looking for a good excuse. Dustin San Diego, Calif. From: nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:18:10 -0800 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] SFR Two Rock/Valley Ford 200K Ride Report Nice report, Esteban. It was a great ride, and it was nice to pedal along with other first time randonneurs! :) I'm glad you took photos, since I couldn't find my camera that morning while busily packing my boxy bag full of food and rushing off to the bridge in the early morning darkness. Who's up for the Russian River 300K besides Will and me? :) -nathan On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I was lucky enough to ride with some friends on the 200K on Saturday. Drove from San Diego... and I might just have to do it again. There were a lot of sensible, purpose-built bikes on the ride: Rivendells, Kogswells, Ebisus, Pelicans, and a variety of customs along with the typical MCRBs. I absolutely enjoyed the ride, and somehow, felt just great the whole time. Photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/sets/72157623251904639/ Write-up: http://veloflaneur.wordpress.com/2010/02/08/my-first-brevet/ Regards, Esteban San Diego, Calif. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] SFR Two Rock/Valley Ford 200K Ride Report
Hi Nathan, Clayton here. We talked on a rainy day in SF riding from Market to Scott. I was on a Silver Quickbeam. I will be riding the 300k at the end of the month. If you want, I will be riding a part of the ride up to Healdsburg this Saturday. I will be visiting and staying up there with my in laws, but if you want to come along for the ride you are more than welcome. I will leave early on Saturday (6.30ish). The ride takes around 6 hours or so. Leasurely pace (I ride a fixedwheel/ss). Let me know. Clayton On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 2:18 PM, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote: Nice report, Esteban. It was a great ride, and it was nice to pedal along with other first time randonneurs! :) I'm glad you took photos, since I couldn't find my camera that morning while busily packing my boxy bag full of food and rushing off to the bridge in the early morning darkness. Who's up for the Russian River 300K besides Will and me? :) -nathan On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I was lucky enough to ride with some friends on the 200K on Saturday. Drove from San Diego... and I might just have to do it again. There were a lot of sensible, purpose-built bikes on the ride: Rivendells, Kogswells, Ebisus, Pelicans, and a variety of customs along with the typical MCRBs. I absolutely enjoyed the ride, and somehow, felt just great the whole time. Photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/sets/72157623251904639/ Write-up: http://veloflaneur.wordpress.com/2010/02/08/my-first-brevet/ Regards, Esteban San Diego, Calif. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/190 Cheers, John RBW Ulan Bator Branch Office -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Update
It's here! Order's now being taken - see John Bennett's post re: virtual sales brochure. dougP On Feb 6, 9:08 am, Gary g...@worldcyclotour.com wrote: I've been hankering for a Hunqapillar update. Any news or leaks on geometry, frame/ fork specs and measurements? I was hoping based on the Jan 21 post that we would have some details by now. Gary not so sunny today SoCal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Choosing between a 650B and 700c frame
Buy the bike based on which one fits best, not on the wheel size. Good tires are available in both 650B and 700C and frankly there are lots of placed to mail order 650B tires and tubes if they are not readily available locally. There's no magic in either size, hype and criticism not withstanding. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
It looks like its name. On Feb 8, 5:46 pm, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/190 Cheers, John RBW Ulan Bator Branch Office -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Trail (I know, I know) and handlebar width
Bear with me for a moment: All else being equal, should a bike with more trail have wider bars to harmonize with the handling of a bike with less trail? (In terms of switching back and forth between two bikes.) Here is my situation: I have been riding my newish Hillborne and am loving it, and recently rode my 1990 Fisher Sphinx monstercross again, whose handling used to seem perfectly fine. After getting used to the Sam, the Sphinx feels like it's running on bushings rather than headset bearings, requiring a surprising amount of effort for even minor directional changes. The headset was overhauled 2 years ago, and I do not think there is anything wrong here. I think it's just an example of the range of handling characteristics that one can get used to and that work fine. But switching back and forth sure feels strange. I don't know the geometries of the Fisher, but guess that it's fairly standard 1990 mtn bike geometry. I assume the issue is a high amount of trail on the Sphinx (correct me if you think I am wrong). Here is a photo (fork offset seems low, but I haven't measured it): http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/4341891127/ In terms of relevant parts, the Sam is sporting 42mm knobbies, the Sphinx 33.3mm Jack Browns. The Sam has 46cm noodles, the Sphinx 42cm Bontragers. Here is the question: :) I have a 44cm noodle that I am about to put on the Sphinx, but am wondering if it would be better to move the 46 noodle from the Sam to the Sphinx and use the 44 noodle on the Sam, to partially compensate for their different handling characteristics? Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Choosing between a 650B and 700c frame
Do the two frames have the same max tire size? (I would assume the 650B can fit slightly bigger tires, but don't know). If max tire size is different, will you want to run fat tires? (Taking into consideration that if you are new to the bobish/rivish way of biking, you'll probably end up running wider tires than you can possibly imagine now.) If you want the option of wide tires, does the 650B frame fit the 42mm Hetres? That would be reason enough for me to go with the 650Bs. Hetres seem like absolutely fabulous tires, and there is nothing like them in 700C. I don't think tire availability should be a factor, unless you plan on living outside of Europe/N. America. I chose the 56cm/700C Hillborne over the 52cm/650B partly because I wanted to err on the side of a larger frame, but also because I live in Thailand and shied away from 650B. But now I kinda wish I had 650B wheels with Hetres. Guess I'll have to buy another bike down the road... :) Gernot On Feb 9, 8:06 am, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: Buy the bike based on which one fits best, not on the wheel size. Good tires are available in both 650B and 700C and frankly there are lots of placed to mail order 650B tires and tubes if they are not readily available locally. There's no magic in either size, hype and criticism not withstanding. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
I sure hope they do a t-shirt with that graphic on it. This frame sounds like a winner. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
I like it a LOT! Good job Grant and RBW. Alex Moll north of Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Trail (I know, I know) and handlebar width
I like my bars a touch wider on my higher trail bikes. Ryan On Feb 8, 7:01 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Bear with me for a moment: All else being equal, should a bike with more trail have wider bars to harmonize with the handling of a bike with less trail? (In terms of switching back and forth between two bikes.) Here is my situation: I have been riding my newish Hillborne and am loving it, and recently rode my 1990 Fisher Sphinx monstercross again, whose handling used to seem perfectly fine. After getting used to the Sam, the Sphinx feels like it's running on bushings rather than headset bearings, requiring a surprising amount of effort for even minor directional changes. The headset was overhauled 2 years ago, and I do not think there is anything wrong here. I think it's just an example of the range of handling characteristics that one can get used to and that work fine. But switching back and forth sure feels strange. I don't know the geometries of the Fisher, but guess that it's fairly standard 1990 mtn bike geometry. I assume the issue is a high amount of trail on the Sphinx (correct me if you think I am wrong). Here is a photo (fork offset seems low, but I haven't measured it): http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/4341891127/ In terms of relevant parts, the Sam is sporting 42mm knobbies, the Sphinx 33.3mm Jack Browns. The Sam has 46cm noodles, the Sphinx 42cm Bontragers. Here is the question: :) I have a 44cm noodle that I am about to put on the Sphinx, but am wondering if it would be better to move the 46 noodle from the Sam to the Sphinx and use the 44 noodle on the Sam, to partially compensate for their different handling characteristics? Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
A man, now I have consider this one!!! Actually, it seems like it hits the sweet spot between the Atlantis Bomba that sounds just right. A 58cm would give me 2cm of stand over with 60mm tires.Not huge, but possibly enough! :-) On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 8:18 PM, amoll68 amol...@comcast.net wrote: I like it a LOT! Good job Grant and RBW. Alex Moll north of Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
yes, 2.2 knobbies if you please... a real dirt machine and with 40mm Schwalbes a killer touring rig! Even in Elephant color! another home run for RBW. Mikey SoCal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Samuel P. Taylor Park S240 route suggestions?
Next week I'm lucky enough to be on my winter break. So after coming back from Yosemite Tuesday, I was planning to do a quick solo S240 to Samuel P Taylor. Anyone have any tips or suggestions for routes? Thanks in advance -Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
I like how, similar to the Bomba and Atlantis, this bike covers the outer edges of all rounder territory: heavy duty touring, singletrack, and robust commuting. A winner, for sure. Esteban San Diego, Calif On Feb 8, 8:42 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: yes, 2.2 knobbies if you please... a real dirt machine and with 40mm Schwalbes a killer touring rig! Even in Elephant color! another home run for RBW. Mikey SoCal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
Yeah. I love how the company has expanded with new road-oriented models (hopefully the Soma-collab will happen hitch-free) and new fat-tire models. -Jim W. -Original Message- From: Esteban proto...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 9, 2010 12:04 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer I like how, similar to the Bomba and Atlantis, this bike covers the outer edges of all rounder territory: heavy duty touring, singletrack, and robust commuting. A winner, for sure. Esteban San Diego, Calif On Feb 8, 8:42 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: yes, 2.2 knobbies if you please... a real dirt machine and with 40mm Schwalbes a killer touring rig! Even in Elephant color! another home run for RBW. Mikey SoCal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 16:46, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/190 Hunqapillar looks great! I'm glad it's the color of elephant. James Black Los Angeles, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Samuel P. Taylor Park S240 route suggestions?
Off the top of my head, Sir Francis Drake Blvd itself is quite nice, though a bit rough in places (at least it used to be 10 years ago). Bolinas Ridge Trail offers fantastic views and at least used to be open to bikes (better check with someone who's been there more recently). You can take that almost all the way back to SF(I think), as it turns into Bolinas Ridge Fire Rd. and then Ridgecrest Blvd, or you can descend to Hwy 1, though the descends are pretty technical single track, IIRC. If you take Ridgecrest Blvd back, I'd get off before it dead ends into Hwy 1 if you want to stay away from cars, though you'll be going downhill on HWY 1 and will have no trouble matching the cars' speed. One other tip: In the hiker/biker part of the campground there is a stand of redwoods that grew in an almost perfect hexagon (6 shoots sent up from the roots of a dying giant a long time ago), with the spaces between the trees more narrow than the trees themselves, with just enough space in the middle for a tent. One of the more magical spots I have slept... Enjoy, Gernot PS: Don't leave your Stilton unattended, even for a second. The raccoons are just waiting for such an opportunity. (And yes, I speak from experience). GH On Feb 9, 11:55 am, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Next week I'm lucky enough to be on my winter break. So after coming back from Yosemite Tuesday, I was planning to do a quick solo S240 to Samuel P Taylor. Anyone have any tips or suggestions for routes? Thanks in advance -Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riding my Atlantis fom SF to Long Beach
Mark sounds like a fun trip I know for a fact that along the Oregon coast there are lots of Microbrews to sample not to mention the incredible scenery. My 50 is still 5 ish years off but you are giving me ideas. Hope you have fair weather and tailwinds the rest of the way. Ryan On Feb 7, 8:58 am, mmdwight mmdwi...@gmail.com wrote: Just thought I'd shout out to the RBW enthusiasts. I'm on my second annual 500-mile trek down Highway 1 from SF to Long Beach to attend the TED conference and raise some money for a homeless youth project in SF. I'm also celebrating my 50th birthday in three weeks, so I decided this was a good way to start my new decade. Cycling helps keep you young! My Atlantis is a great ride. I've got 338 miles on the odometer so far this trip, with 180 more to reach Long Beach. It's been soggy for the past two days, but looks like clear weather today. If you're interested, I'm sending updates via Twitter (markdwight). Cheers! -Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Choosing between a 650B and 700c frame
[Apparently, I don't know how to navigate in Google Groups. I think my last attempt to send this message was sent to Earl Grey. Sorry about that.] Thanks everyone. Lots of good advice. @Joel Steve - Even I knew from my limited research that the 650B is not new. It was a little surprising that the person at the shop didn't know. He had also never heard of Rivendell Bike Works. He was definitely keen on having me swing my the shop and try some of the bikes there, which I can understand. @Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery (and others) - Good point about availability in general. I hadn't thought about that. @jim g - I am unable to test these bikes because I'm ordering the frame from Rivendell and having the bike built up for me by someone locally. I know this goes against the very basics of bike buying, but... @Mike - The colour will be stock, which I'm quite partial to - blue being my favourite colour. @Garth - You are the annoying little voice that keeps whispering in my ear. Seriously though, one of my bike knowledgeable friends had the same line of thinking. It's valid. As for knowing thyself - I'm getting there but I guess I have a long way to go. This is, after all, only my second bike purchase! @CycloFiend - I have yet to make any firm LBS allegiances, save one who has rather limited hours and is a one-person, very busy little place. My general experience has not been great, but I won't go into that, other than to say it is the engine that fuels my desire to learn more about my bike. Thanks for the welcome message too! @James - Thank you. The Col De La Vie has also been recommended to me. I think I might check it out. To everyone who assured me that availability isn't that big of an issue - thank you. I think this is what I needed (wanted?) to hear most. Thank you, everyone, for your messages. I really appreciate it. I can't wait for the bike to get here - I haven't slept well in weeks and can't stop thinking about it. :-p Tailwinds, Zaelia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Last Month's SFR 200K Brevet Ride Report
Esteban's post reminded me that I finished off the second half of the San Francisco Randonneurs Lighthouse 200K which took place in January. http://ramblings.cyclofiend.com/?p=425 Part One was here - http://ramblings.cyclofiend.com/?p=423 Yeah... it did take me a couple weeks to finish writing it. Been that kind of a month. Ahh well... - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes The Gallery needs your photos! Send 'em in - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines I carried my bike inside the front door, a privilege earned by steady patronage. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
