[RBW] questions about a low-rider rack while still using a mini-front on top
Hi, I recently posted about picking up a nitto big front rack..and while I still may do that, I am now wondering if there is any way I could leave my mini-front rack on my S.H. which has mid fork eyelets brazed on and still use some sort of low-rider pannier mounts that could be useful in an upcoming trip, but that I could take off easily... obviously I don't want a lot of racks for super specific purposes and would love to just leave the mini-front on with a basket or bag on it and mount panniers up front-down low on occasion. here's the set up http://gallery.me.com/jasonaschwartz#100056/bikeonbridge7 could the Tubus low rider racks be used underneath the mini-front, using the same braze ons? I'm sure I'd need longer bolts, but I'm worried about too much weight on the eyelets themselves. I'd love to try the Tubus Duo, as there is no bar that wraps around the front wheel but I've heard this rack needs to pass through mid-fork braze ons..actually through the fork. Does anyone have experience with this? Thanks in Advance. JS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: questions about a low-rider rack while still using a mini-front on top
Do you mean like this? http://www.flickr.com/photos/22253...@n00/3905485108/in/pool-classicbicycles On Mar 4, 7:55 am, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I recently posted about picking up a nitto big front rack..and while I still may do that, I am now wondering if there is any way I could leave my mini-front rack on my S.H. which has mid fork eyelets brazed on and still use some sort of low-rider pannier mounts that could be useful in an upcoming trip, but that I could take off easily... obviously I don't want a lot of racks for super specific purposes and would love to just leave the mini-front on with a basket or bag on it and mount panniers up front-down low on occasion. here's the set up http://gallery.me.com/jasonaschwartz#100056/bikeonbridge7 could the Tubus low rider racks be used underneath the mini-front, using the same braze ons? I'm sure I'd need longer bolts, but I'm worried about too much weight on the eyelets themselves. I'd love to try the Tubus Duo, as there is no bar that wraps around the front wheel but I've heard this rack needs to pass through mid-fork braze ons..actually through the fork. Does anyone have experience with this? Thanks in Advance. JS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: questions about a low-rider rack while still using a mini-front on top
yes, thats it.. You're bike? do you find it's OK to do that to the braze-ons? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My old Hillborne
Great story, great looking bike. Welcome to the group. Keep pictures and ride reports coming. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo
I recall Grant's early post on the then up-coming Roadeo saying 6-4-6 for the main triangle, and I assume he was talking about a size that fit him - maybe a 58cm? That would certainly make for a lively ride! I have a 54cm Rambouillet, and I too think it is overbuilt for spirited riding. In fact, I use it for my commuter/grocery getter and touring because of it's stiffness. I've learned to ride it with these loads, but it requires a lot of attention. This year I'm planning some touring with a front loading bike - we'll see how that goes. On Mar 3, 10:24 pm, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: From what I recall, the smaller frame sizes use heat-treated OS tubing with .6/.38/.6. butts and bellies. My memory is not so good on the larger frame sizes, but something like OS .8/.5/.8 seems to ring a bell (but don't quote me on it). Grant outlined it in a post on this list, but I cannot find it right off the bat in the archives. With a little digging I'm sure someone could uncover it. Aaron On Mar 3, 8:12 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: Curious whether the butts and bellies of the Roadeo are same, or lighter gauge, than the Rambouillet. Does any member of the tribe have data? thanks TTM/RL 531 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Which Handlebar Bag?
Here's what I think I want for my Atlantis which is set up as a day bike (recently posted more Flickr pics under username ahurvitz)... hammered honjos, shellacked bars, Pasela's. A smallish handlebar bag for day rides. I have a Keven on the saddle where I keep tools, lock, mini-pump, etc. I'm looking for a bag that doesn't need a front rack and hopefully not a decaleur. Big enough for a sandwich and maybe a banana. I have a really thin windbreaker that scrunches up really small (sandwich bag size). An outside pocket or two for my cellphone. and the top large enough for a small map case (maybe 9x5.5). I want it to be at least as classy as the Keven. The new Sackville BarSack looks great, but it's larger than I want and requires the Nitto decaleur. And that makes it $200, which is too much. I actually bought a BrandV Barbox, and it was about right, but it didn't match by bike's style. Very utilitarian, but the velcro, etc., wasn't right. I bid on a couple of used Baggins bags, but they're close to $200 including the decaleur. I've looked on peterwhitecycles, VO, Carradice, Zugster (nice but too expensive), etc. I'm thinking the Acorn handlebar bag would be nice and I can adapt a map holder. I tried ordering one the other day but they sold out within a couple of hours. I'd also be happy with a vintage bag in nice condition. Plan B is to have a friend make one out of waxed cotton. And that got me thinking... how come no one makes a bag that's about 10x5x5 and can accommodate a small map case? I'm asking because my fear is that I'll figure that out once it's made/bought and I realize it's too small. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Which Handlebar Bag?
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Buck ahurv...@gmail.com wrote: I want it to be at least as classy as the Keven. The new Sackville BarSack looks great, but it's larger than I want and requires the Nitto decaleur. And that makes it $200, which is too much. I actually bought a BrandV Barbox, and it was about right, but it didn't match by bike's style. Very utilitarian, but the velcro, etc., wasn't right. I bid on a couple of used Baggins bags, but they're close to $200 including the decaleur. I've looked on peterwhitecycles, VO, Carradice, Zugster (nice but too expensive), etc. I'm thinking the Acorn handlebar bag would be nice and I can adapt a map holder. I tried ordering one the other day but they sold out within a couple of hours. I'd also be happy with a vintage bag in nice condition. Plan B is to have a friend make one out of waxed cotton. And that got me thinking... how come no one makes a bag that's about 10x5x5 and can accommodate a small map case? I'm asking because my fear is that I'll figure that out once it's made/bought and I realize it's too small. If you have a friend who can make the one then that same friend can likely pull off the velcro straps from the brand-v bag and put on whatever kind you'd like. I've got a brand-v seat bag and I've looked at it. Probably 10 minutes with a seam ripper to get the velcro off and however long to put the new one on. The bags aren't so bulky to make them impossible to get under a presserfoot. Ask them - it'll save you a lot of money and the brand-v bag is very nice. just an idea. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo
-- Forwarded message -- From: gr...@rivbike.com grantmill...@gmail.com Date: Jul 9 2009, 1:21 pm Subject: Frame-Bike Plans (some) To: RBW Owners Bunch Newlite Roadbike. TheROADEO---final name, final spelling, thanks for all your input and don't take offense. This is really Mark's bike, by which I mean he asked for it/suggested it as a bike for clubbies. He's a club rider a couple of days a week, and rides his cross bikes--which to me are light enough, at 19-20lb, even with fatty tires (and he's still the fastest by a good margin, and the humblest). But he sees his fellow clubbies buying road bikes with carbon this and that, and was thinking hmm, they should get a nice lugged steel bike, and if we made it light enough and roadynuff they probably would. Originally,'twas gunnabe for short reach brakes, but nobody here really rides with those anymore, so, with some input from Jay's, they'll use standard reach brakes, which means...about 56mm reach, about like the 'bouillet. TUBING: The goal is a clubbie bike, so it's going to be clubbie light, and it should, ideally, be ridding by somebody who is, if not clubbie light, at least knows how to ride light. A Nureyev-like 225-pounder who lifts over bumps and veers around pothholes and rides 32mm tires at 85psi rides lighter than a Nagurski-like 150-pounder who rides 23mm tires at 115psi and hits everything with a stiff body and locked arms. So, it's hard to give this bike a weight limit. I should point out that you aren't buying an engine with this bike; you're supplying the engine, and it's good to somewhat match the engine's weight with the frame's weight. OK: Up to 57cm, the main tube butts are 0.65, with 0.4bellies. Bigger than that, 0.8 butts with 0.6bellies. It's superstrong heat-treated steel, so strength isn't much of an issue. Flex is more of an issue, but nobody really anymore believes that flexless frames are the goal (I never have). A more rigid frame matters if you're toting weight, but not as much if you aren't, and as we introduce this as a superlight clubbie-bike, its flex-under-a-touring-load shouldn't matter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My old Hillborne
Thanks for the story Ray nice setup on the Sam-like the bar tape and the final bag set up On Mar 3, 9:38 pm, Way Rebb grayc...@mac.com wrote: Hello, You folks seem like a fun group who might enjoy this. I thought I'd share some pics of my old Sam Hillborne…but first a story…no wait, the pics, skip the story: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrebb/sets/72157623480171652/ Way back in 1982 or '83 I purchased a brand spanking new Lotus Eclair touring bike in Santa Cruz, CA. That bike served me well for many years. I don't know how many miles I put on it (tons) but I used it for school, work, grocery stores, camping, tearing through the hills, the valleys, rain or shine. I didn't take long tours but did ride every major, and most minor, roads/trails in Santa Cruz / Monterey Counties probably a zillion times. Fast forward 25 years to my recent move to Livermore, CA. This place is flat. Poor old bike couldn't take that much pedaling and neither could I. We were used to standing and charging up hills or getting low, butt back, flying down hills, very little long stretches where we just pedaled. Now, the bent chainring squawked, the bent rear derailed squawked, my knees hurt after 30 miles or so, my neck hurt, shoulders, bleah. After many adjustments and attempts to make the endless pedaling more comfortable I decided I needed a new bike. Naturally I went to a bicycle store. Unfortunately very few of the things they had with two wheels resembled a bicycle. I decided to hit garage sales and flea markets. Not much there either. The bikes were really beat up or aluminum mountain bikes or etc. I wanted a steel touring bike, one that I could put racks, bags, bungee cords on and haul stuff. Suddenly I remembered this web site I visited. I had purchased a couple of things in the past and I think they sold a bike called a… umm… Atlantic maybe? It took a while to find it but it was Rivendell. I saw they had the Hilsen. It was almost what I was looking for except it didn't have cantilevers. It made number 2 on my list. The Kogswell made number 2 on my list as did a couple of others but nothing made number 1 so far. After about four more months of garage sales I saw Rivendell announce the Hillborne. A bike between the Hilsen and Atlantis with cantilevers! Finally a strong possible number 1. In Dec 08 I took a ride out to Walnut Creek. My first visit to Rivendell and I was impressed. Very friendly people and seeing the bikes in person was awe inspiring! The one Hillborne was out but Kevin kept adjusting seat posts and saying here try this one (Atlantis), here try this one (Bombadill), here try this one (Hilsen) until the Hillborne was back. I think I spent the entire day riding up and down the trail with a huge smile on my face. When I got back on the Lotus to ride home I immediately knew what was wrong. The Lotus was way to small. It was like riding a circus tricycle. I put a deposit on a Hillborne that day and picked it up in June of '09 and have been riding ever since with no pain. The Hillborne feels like a luxury bike I can really stretch out on. It takes the flats, hills, streams, roads, ruts, fence posts, everything like butter on a duck. The pictures sorta document the first six months and they are fun for me to look back on. I'm surprised by how many places I've been with the bike considering how little free time I have. It hasn't been just back and forth to work. Bikes are a great way to get around and a comfortable bike is even better. Thank you for putting up with my story. -Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rondo.
I need to confirm but I recall it is a 6cm. Shortened reach when I adjested my saddle aft. On Mar 3, 4:16 pm, Dustin Sharp paleo.v...@gmail.com wrote: Looks great! How long is that stem? Dustin From: muckum toddjeffr...@sbcglobal.net Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:10:46 -0800 (PST) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Atlantis Rondo. Wanted to share a few recent tweeks to the Atlantis. http://www.flickr.com/photos/24971...@n06/sets/72157623425544101/ Anybody doing Solvang Century? See you there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rondo.
That would be adjusted. On Mar 4, 8:03 am, muckum toddjeffr...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I need to confirm but I recall it is a 6cm. Shortened reach when I adjested my saddle aft. On Mar 3, 4:16 pm, Dustin Sharp paleo.v...@gmail.com wrote: Looks great! How long is that stem? Dustin From: muckum toddjeffr...@sbcglobal.net Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:10:46 -0800 (PST) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Atlantis Rondo. Wanted to share a few recent tweeks to the Atlantis. http://www.flickr.com/photos/24971...@n06/sets/72157623425544101/ Anybody doing Solvang Century? See you there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Old Nitto CrMo Bullmoose bars on ebay
http://tinyurl.com/y8tr9a9 No connection, don't know seller, but thought someone here might be interested. Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rondo.
à la votre to you and your fine rig. Looks cushy. On Mar 3, 7:53 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Cheers to your Frenchy-fied Riv:http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4309012429/sizes/l/ Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Mar 3, 4:10 pm, muckum toddjeffr...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Wanted to share a few recent tweeks to the Atlantis. http://www.flickr.com/photos/24971...@n06/sets/72157623425544101/ Anybody doing Solvang Century? See you there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] My old Hillborne
Nice bike, nice story, great pictures and good notes on the pictures. The notes really help to show the defelopment of the bike and rig. Makes me ( in snowy Massachusetts ) long for the ability to get out and ride. I am not as hardy (crazy?) as the guys from Minnesota or Vermont, who ride during winter. It may be snowing here today, but I know Spring is near. Thanks for the effort to share. Keep up the documentation. Jim D. Massachusetts --- On Thu, 3/4/10, Way Rebb grayc...@mac.com wrote: From: Way Rebb grayc...@mac.com Subject: [RBW] My old Hillborne To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 12:38 AM Hello, You folks seem like a fun group who might enjoy this. I thought I'd share some pics of my old Sam Hillborne…but first a story…no wait, the pics, skip the story: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrebb/sets/72157623480171652/ Way back in 1982 or '83 I purchased a brand spanking new Lotus Eclair touring bike in Santa Cruz, CA. That bike served me well for many years. I don't know how many miles I put on it (tons) but I used it for school, work, grocery stores, camping, tearing through the hills, the valleys, rain or shine. I didn't take long tours but did ride every major, and most minor, roads/trails in Santa Cruz / Monterey Counties probably a zillion times. Fast forward 25 years to my recent move to Livermore, CA. This place is flat. Poor old bike couldn't take that much pedaling and neither could I. We were used to standing and charging up hills or getting low, butt back, flying down hills, very little long stretches where we just pedaled. Now, the bent chainring squawked, the bent rear derailed squawked, my knees hurt after 30 miles or so, my neck hurt, shoulders, bleah. After many adjustments and attempts to make the endless pedaling more comfortable I decided I needed a new bike. Naturally I went to a bicycle store. Unfortunately very few of the things they had with two wheels resembled a bicycle. I decided to hit garage sales and flea markets. Not much there either. The bikes were really beat up or aluminum mountain bikes or etc. I wanted a steel touring bike, one that I could put racks, bags, bungee cords on and haul stuff. Suddenly I remembered this web site I visited. I had purchased a couple of things in the past and I think they sold a bike called a… umm… Atlantic maybe? It took a while to find it but it was Rivendell. I saw they had the Hilsen. It was almost what I was looking for except it didn't have cantilevers. It made number 2 on my list. The Kogswell made number 2 on my list as did a couple of others but nothing made number 1 so far. After about four more months of garage sales I saw Rivendell announce the Hillborne. A bike between the Hilsen and Atlantis with cantilevers! Finally a strong possible number 1. In Dec 08 I took a ride out to Walnut Creek. My first visit to Rivendell and I was impressed. Very friendly people and seeing the bikes in person was awe inspiring! The one Hillborne was out but Kevin kept adjusting seat posts and saying here try this one (Atlantis), here try this one (Bombadill), here try this one (Hilsen) until the Hillborne was back. I think I spent the entire day riding up and down the trail with a huge smile on my face. When I got back on the Lotus to ride home I immediately knew what was wrong. The Lotus was way to small. It was like riding a circus tricycle. I put a deposit on a Hillborne that day and picked it up in June of '09 and have been riding ever since with no pain. The Hillborne feels like a luxury bike I can really stretch out on. It takes the flats, hills, streams, roads, ruts, fence posts, everything like butter on a duck. The pictures sorta document the first six months and they are fun for me to look back on. I'm surprised by how many places I've been with the bike considering how little free time I have. It hasn't been just back and forth to work. Bikes are a great way to get around and a comfortable bike is even better. Thank you for putting up with my story. -Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Which Handlebar Bag?
on 3/4/10 7:25 AM, Buck at ahurv...@gmail.com wrote: Plan B is to have a friend make one out of waxed cotton. And that got me thinking... how come no one makes a bag that's about 10x5x5 and can accommodate a small map case? I'm asking because my fear is that I'll figure that out once it's made/bought and I realize it's too small. Interesting question. I'm definitely a fan of smaller bags, as I manage to fill them up regardless of size. The NS L'il Loafer has been an absolute favorite, and it's roughly the size you describe (~9x5x5). Obviously, it's designed to go on the Mini Front/Mark's Rack (pretty easy on/off for a canti brake setup, btw...), but sizewise, I can stow enough in it for the day. If you go the homebrew way, I'd have your friend tack on four D rings on the front - can't tell you how many times the shock cord lashdown method has been used. I do like my Zugster Rando bag (10x8x8), as it keeps everything covered and leaves room for food and bulkier (wintery) clothing layers. hope that helps, - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net One Cog - Zero Excuses L/S T-shirt - Now available http://www.cyclofiend.com/stuff Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Send In Your Photos! - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo
Thanks for that! Remember the brochures for the Ram Rom? They were described as go anywhere road bikes, with photos of the bikes off road. And many of us have discovered, the Ram/Rom can take a lickin' off road. I'm not sure I'd do the same with a Roadeo, which is made for the road. This being said, the Ram/Rom can be built into a light build, and it's comfortable and it can haul. They are on the road side of the all-rounder. The Roadeo seems more purpose-built... Which is cool! On Mar 4, 7:31 am, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: gr...@rivbike.com grantmill...@gmail.com Date: Jul 9 2009, 1:21 pm Subject: Frame-Bike Plans (some) To: RBW Owners Bunch Newlite Roadbike. TheROADEO---final name, final spelling, thanks for all your input and don't take offense. This is really Mark's bike, by which I mean he asked for it/suggested it as a bike for clubbies. He's a club rider a couple of days a week, and rides his cross bikes--which to me are light enough, at 19-20lb, even with fatty tires (and he's still the fastest by a good margin, and the humblest). But he sees his fellow clubbies buying road bikes with carbon this and that, and was thinking hmm, they should get a nice lugged steel bike, and if we made it light enough and roadynuff they probably would. Originally,'twas gunnabe for short reach brakes, but nobody here really rides with those anymore, so, with some input from Jay's, they'll use standard reach brakes, which means...about 56mm reach, about like the 'bouillet. TUBING: The goal is a clubbie bike, so it's going to be clubbie light, and it should, ideally, be ridding by somebody who is, if not clubbie light, at least knows how to ride light. A Nureyev-like 225-pounder who lifts over bumps and veers around pothholes and rides 32mm tires at 85psi rides lighter than a Nagurski-like 150-pounder who rides 23mm tires at 115psi and hits everything with a stiff body and locked arms. So, it's hard to give this bike a weight limit. I should point out that you aren't buying an engine with this bike; you're supplying the engine, and it's good to somewhat match the engine's weight with the frame's weight. OK: Up to 57cm, the main tube butts are 0.65, with 0.4bellies. Bigger than that, 0.8 butts with 0.6bellies. It's superstrong heat-treated steel, so strength isn't much of an issue. Flex is more of an issue, but nobody really anymore believes that flexless frames are the goal (I never have). A more rigid frame matters if you're toting weight, but not as much if you aren't, and as we introduce this as a superlight clubbie-bike, its flex-under-a-touring-load shouldn't matter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: questions about a low-rider rack while still using a mini-front on top
I am running the Nitto M12 + Tubus duo lowrider racks, I can add or remove the duo's in about 15 minutes for a camping trip or a brevet, depending on what kind of ride i'm doing. So far, it has been a pretty versatile setup. I have never used a big-rack, so I can't make a direct comparison, but the front end feels very rigid when fully loaded. I also have through-the-fork lowrider mounts. I wouldn't trust too much weight on mid-fork brazed on eyelets. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Which Handlebar Bag?
I do like my Zugster Rando bag (10x8x8), as it keeps everything covered and leaves room for food and bulkier (wintery) clothing layers. Way to drive it home to us folks who are five months into a possible three year wait ;) They do appear to be great bags anyway. On Mar 4, 10:43 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 3/4/10 7:25 AM, Buck at ahurv...@gmail.com wrote: Plan B is to have a friend make one out of waxed cotton. And that got me thinking... how come no one makes a bag that's about 10x5x5 and can accommodate a small map case? I'm asking because my fear is that I'll figure that out once it's made/bought and I realize it's too small. Interesting question. I'm definitely a fan of smaller bags, as I manage to fill them up regardless of size. The NS L'il Loafer has been an absolute favorite, and it's roughly the size you describe (~9x5x5). Obviously, it's designed to go on the Mini Front/Mark's Rack (pretty easy on/off for a canti brake setup, btw...), but sizewise, I can stow enough in it for the day. If you go the homebrew way, I'd have your friend tack on four D rings on the front - can't tell you how many times the shock cord lashdown method has been used. I do like my Zugster Rando bag (10x8x8), as it keeps everything covered and leaves room for food and bulkier (wintery) clothing layers. hope that helps, - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net One Cog - Zero Excuses L/S T-shirt - Now availablehttp://www.cyclofiend.com/stuff Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Send In Your Photos! - Here's how:http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo
Thanks for finding that... 8/6/8 for the larger sizes makes sense. Now, for the last piece of the puzzle - and for the prize cigar and kewpie doll - did Grant ever post the tubeset thicknesses for the Rambouillet? I looked back in old Readers and couldn't locate anything. On Mar 4, 7:31 am, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: gr...@rivbike.com grantmill...@gmail.com Date: Jul 9 2009, 1:21 pm Subject: Frame-Bike Plans (some) To: RBW Owners Bunch Newlite Roadbike. TheROADEO---final name, final spelling, thanks for all your input and don't take offense. This is really Mark's bike, by which I mean he asked for it/suggested it as a bike for clubbies. He's a club rider a couple of days a week, and rides his cross bikes--which to me are light enough, at 19-20lb, even with fatty tires (and he's still the fastest by a good margin, and the humblest). But he sees his fellow clubbies buying road bikes with carbon this and that, and was thinking hmm, they should get a nice lugged steel bike, and if we made it light enough and roadynuff they probably would. Originally,'twas gunnabe for short reach brakes, but nobody here really rides with those anymore, so, with some input from Jay's, they'll use standard reach brakes, which means...about 56mm reach, about like the 'bouillet. TUBING: The goal is a clubbie bike, so it's going to be clubbie light, and it should, ideally, be ridding by somebody who is, if not clubbie light, at least knows how to ride light. A Nureyev-like 225-pounder who lifts over bumps and veers around pothholes and rides 32mm tires at 85psi rides lighter than a Nagurski-like 150-pounder who rides 23mm tires at 115psi and hits everything with a stiff body and locked arms. So, it's hard to give this bike a weight limit. I should point out that you aren't buying an engine with this bike; you're supplying the engine, and it's good to somewhat match the engine's weight with the frame's weight. OK: Up to 57cm, the main tube butts are 0.65, with 0.4bellies. Bigger than that, 0.8 butts with 0.6bellies. It's superstrong heat-treated steel, so strength isn't much of an issue. Flex is more of an issue, but nobody really anymore believes that flexless frames are the goal (I never have). A more rigid frame matters if you're toting weight, but not as much if you aren't, and as we introduce this as a superlight clubbie-bike, its flex-under-a-touring-load shouldn't matter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Riv hat
I have a wool Rivendell cycling hat in orange. Very cool looking but does not fit my fat head. $15 covers hat and shipping to CONUS. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo
From this post a little while ago, most of Rivendell's frames have 8/5/8 for the main triangle: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/browse_thread/thread/... Which makes it seem strange, that the larger sizes of the Roadeo would be 8/6/8- since that would make it beefier than their other, more trail-oriented frames, such as the AHH (if the above post implies that the AHH has 8/5/8 TT and DT, and the Quickbeam as well for example). On Mar 4, 12:11 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: Thanks for finding that... 8/6/8 for the larger sizes makes sense. Now, for the last piece of the puzzle - and for the prize cigar and kewpie doll - did Grant ever post the tubeset thicknesses for the Rambouillet? I looked back in old Readers and couldn't locate anything. On Mar 4, 7:31 am, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: gr...@rivbike.com grantmill...@gmail.com Date: Jul 9 2009, 1:21 pm Subject: Frame-Bike Plans (some) To: RBW Owners Bunch Newlite Roadbike. TheROADEO---final name, final spelling, thanks for all your input and don't take offense. This is really Mark's bike, by which I mean he asked for it/suggested it as a bike for clubbies. He's a club rider a couple of days a week, and rides his cross bikes--which to me are light enough, at 19-20lb, even with fatty tires (and he's still the fastest by a good margin, and the humblest). But he sees his fellow clubbies buying road bikes with carbon this and that, and was thinking hmm, they should get a nice lugged steel bike, and if we made it light enough and roadynuff they probably would. Originally,'twas gunnabe for short reach brakes, but nobody here really rides with those anymore, so, with some input from Jay's, they'll use standard reach brakes, which means...about 56mm reach, about like the 'bouillet. TUBING: The goal is a clubbie bike, so it's going to be clubbie light, and it should, ideally, be ridding by somebody who is, if not clubbie light, at least knows how to ride light. A Nureyev-like 225-pounder who lifts over bumps and veers around pothholes and rides 32mm tires at 85psi rides lighter than a Nagurski-like 150-pounder who rides 23mm tires at 115psi and hits everything with a stiff body and locked arms. So, it's hard to give this bike a weight limit. I should point out that you aren't buying an engine with this bike; you're supplying the engine, and it's good to somewhat match the engine's weight with the frame's weight. OK: Up to 57cm, the main tube butts are 0.65, with 0.4bellies. Bigger than that, 0.8 butts with 0.6bellies. It's superstrong heat-treated steel, so strength isn't much of an issue. Flex is more of an issue, but nobody really anymore believes that flexless frames are the goal (I never have). A more rigid frame matters if you're toting weight, but not as much if you aren't, and as we introduce this as a superlight clubbie-bike, its flex-under-a-touring-load shouldn't matter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo
From this post from a little while ago it seems that most Rivendell frames have 8/5/8 main triangle tubes: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/browse_thread/thread/9b63d62ffd368e31/829ef6df4ed06b49?q=#829ef6df4ed06b49 Which makes it seem strange that the Roadeo would have 8/6/8 tubing in sizes above 57, since that would mean the tubing is beefier than in their other, more trail-oriented frames such as the AHH (if the AHH has 8/5/8 tubes) and the Quickbeam, for example. On Mar 4, 12:11 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: Thanks for finding that... 8/6/8 for the larger sizes makes sense. Now, for the last piece of the puzzle - and for the prize cigar and kewpie doll - did Grant ever post the tubeset thicknesses for the Rambouillet? I looked back in old Readers and couldn't locate anything. On Mar 4, 7:31 am, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: gr...@rivbike.com grantmill...@gmail.com Date: Jul 9 2009, 1:21 pm Subject: Frame-Bike Plans (some) To: RBW Owners Bunch Newlite Roadbike. TheROADEO---final name, final spelling, thanks for all your input and don't take offense. This is really Mark's bike, by which I mean he asked for it/suggested it as a bike for clubbies. He's a club rider a couple of days a week, and rides his cross bikes--which to me are light enough, at 19-20lb, even with fatty tires (and he's still the fastest by a good margin, and the humblest). But he sees his fellow clubbies buying road bikes with carbon this and that, and was thinking hmm, they should get a nice lugged steel bike, and if we made it light enough and roadynuff they probably would. Originally,'twas gunnabe for short reach brakes, but nobody here really rides with those anymore, so, with some input from Jay's, they'll use standard reach brakes, which means...about 56mm reach, about like the 'bouillet. TUBING: The goal is a clubbie bike, so it's going to be clubbie light, and it should, ideally, be ridding by somebody who is, if not clubbie light, at least knows how to ride light. A Nureyev-like 225-pounder who lifts over bumps and veers around pothholes and rides 32mm tires at 85psi rides lighter than a Nagurski-like 150-pounder who rides 23mm tires at 115psi and hits everything with a stiff body and locked arms. So, it's hard to give this bike a weight limit. I should point out that you aren't buying an engine with this bike; you're supplying the engine, and it's good to somewhat match the engine's weight with the frame's weight. OK: Up to 57cm, the main tube butts are 0.65, with 0.4bellies. Bigger than that, 0.8 butts with 0.6bellies. It's superstrong heat-treated steel, so strength isn't much of an issue. Flex is more of an issue, but nobody really anymore believes that flexless frames are the goal (I never have). A more rigid frame matters if you're toting weight, but not as much if you aren't, and as we introduce this as a superlight clubbie-bike, its flex-under-a-touring-load shouldn't matter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo
Didn't someone mention earlier that the tubes on the larger Roadeos are the same if not beefier than the Rambos? If so, I'm not sure why so much is being made of it being a light bike that isn't designed for any kind of a load whatsoever. From: newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:21:37 -0800 (PST) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo I remember from this post that most of Rivendell's frames are 8/5/8: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/browse_thread/thread/9b63d62ff d368e31/829ef6df4ed06b49?q=#829ef6df4ed06b49 Which makes it seem strange that the larger sizes of the Roadeo would be 8/6/8- since that would make it beefier than their other more trail-oriented frames such as the AHH (if the above post implies that the AHH 8/5/8 and the Quickbeam). On Mar 4, 12:11 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: Thanks for finding that... 8/6/8 for the larger sizes makes sense. Now, for the last piece of the puzzle - and for the prize cigar and kewpie doll - did Grant ever post the tubeset thicknesses for the Rambouillet? I looked back in old Readers and couldn't locate anything. On Mar 4, 7:31 am, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: gr...@rivbike.com grantmill...@gmail.com Date: Jul 9 2009, 1:21 pm Subject: Frame-Bike Plans (some) To: RBW Owners Bunch Newlite Roadbike. TheROADEO---final name, final spelling, thanks for all your input and don't take offense. This is really Mark's bike, by which I mean he asked for it/suggested it as a bike for clubbies. He's a club rider a couple of days a week, and rides his cross bikes--which to me are light enough, at 19-20lb, even with fatty tires (and he's still the fastest by a good margin, and the humblest). But he sees his fellow clubbies buying road bikes with carbon this and that, and was thinking hmm, they should get a nice lugged steel bike, and if we made it light enough and roadynuff they probably would. Originally,'twas gunnabe for short reach brakes, but nobody here really rides with those anymore, so, with some input from Jay's, they'll use standard reach brakes, which means...about 56mm reach, about like the 'bouillet. TUBING: The goal is a clubbie bike, so it's going to be clubbie light, and it should, ideally, be ridding by somebody who is, if not clubbie light, at least knows how to ride light. A Nureyev-like 225-pounder who lifts over bumps and veers around pothholes and rides 32mm tires at 85psi rides lighter than a Nagurski-like 150-pounder who rides 23mm tires at 115psi and hits everything with a stiff body and locked arms. So, it's hard to give this bike a weight limit. I should point out that you aren't buying an engine with this bike; you're supplying the engine, and it's good to somewhat match the engine's weight with the frame's weight. OK: Up to 57cm, the main tube butts are 0.65, with 0.4bellies. Bigger than that, 0.8 butts with 0.6bellies. It's superstrong heat-treated steel, so strength isn't much of an issue. Flex is more of an issue, but nobody really anymore believes that flexless frames are the goal (I never have). A more rigid frame matters if you're toting weight, but not as much if you aren't, and as we introduce this as a superlight clubbie-bike, its flex-under-a-touring-load shouldn't matter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo
Things to consider when overthinking the relationship between the tube cross sections in relation to a bike's ride and the physical abilities of the frame. I am speeking from my own conclusions in progress, based on armchair engineering and too much re-reading of BQ. Bicyle frames while appearing basic are really a fairly complex collection of three dimensional tubes with more possible combinations than I can really get my head around. As Grant was quoted above the way you ride will play a huge roll. How you pedal, natural cadence etc. may or may not have a certain synergy with different bicycles in different conditions. Heat treated steels will flex to a greater extent without plastic deformation than a non heat treated steel, and therefore are used in lighter or thinner sections, but the tube OD is generally increased to moderate flex. So does that infer that I can bounce around on my Roadeo, it will flex more, but not retain a cold set from the bending? Do I want to experiment with a $2k inventment and increased risk? hell yeah, otherwise i would buy a bike build out of 1mm straight gage and have giant legs. It is common knowledge that a surly cross check is overbuilt as a cross bike. Where does the Legolas fit in? How far is a Roadeo from a Legolas? or a Sachs for that matter? and what kind of abuses is one willing to put into the bike with respect to replacement cost and personal risk? Back to the OP's question, I would still love to have all the historic data to, overthinking it is part of the fun Rob P.S. something like this: http://www.olympus-ims.com/en/35/ would let you disect a frame with tube thicknesses 0.5mm and greater, even map out the butts, I keep meaning to ask Jan if they can get their hands on one, he made his way into a wind tunel for goodness sake he should be able to get one of these. On Mar 4, 8:46 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for that! Remember the brochures for the Ram Rom? They were described as go anywhere road bikes, with photos of the bikes off road. And many of us have discovered, the Ram/Rom can take a lickin' off road. I'm not sure I'd do the same with a Roadeo, which is made for the road. This being said, the Ram/Rom can be built into a light build, and it's comfortable and it can haul. They are on the road side of the all-rounder. The Roadeo seems more purpose-built... Which is cool! On Mar 4, 7:31 am, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: gr...@rivbike.com grantmill...@gmail.com Date: Jul 9 2009, 1:21 pm Subject: Frame-Bike Plans (some) To: RBW Owners Bunch Newlite Roadbike. TheROADEO---final name, final spelling, thanks for all your input and don't take offense. This is really Mark's bike, by which I mean he asked for it/suggested it as a bike for clubbies. He's a club rider a couple of days a week, and rides his cross bikes--which to me are light enough, at 19-20lb, even with fatty tires (and he's still the fastest by a good margin, and the humblest). But he sees his fellow clubbies buying road bikes with carbon this and that, and was thinking hmm, they should get a nice lugged steel bike, and if we made it light enough and roadynuff they probably would. Originally,'twas gunnabe for short reach brakes, but nobody here really rides with those anymore, so, with some input from Jay's, they'll use standard reach brakes, which means...about 56mm reach, about like the 'bouillet. TUBING: The goal is a clubbie bike, so it's going to be clubbie light, and it should, ideally, be ridding by somebody who is, if not clubbie light, at least knows how to ride light. A Nureyev-like 225-pounder who lifts over bumps and veers around pothholes and rides 32mm tires at 85psi rides lighter than a Nagurski-like 150-pounder who rides 23mm tires at 115psi and hits everything with a stiff body and locked arms. So, it's hard to give this bike a weight limit. I should point out that you aren't buying an engine with this bike; you're supplying the engine, and it's good to somewhat match the engine's weight with the frame's weight. OK: Up to 57cm, the main tube butts are 0.65, with 0.4bellies. Bigger than that, 0.8 butts with 0.6bellies. It's superstrong heat-treated steel, so strength isn't much of an issue. Flex is more of an issue, but nobody really anymore believes that flexless frames are the goal (I never have). A more rigid frame matters if you're toting weight, but not as much if you aren't, and as we introduce this as a superlight clubbie-bike, its flex-under-a-touring-load shouldn't matter.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
[RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo
An excellent overview, Rob. After the Roadeo is assembled, I'll do a triple-non-blind study, as follows: Take the Rambouillet, Legolas, and Roadeo to the hill (about 5 miles, 2100'). Over the course of 3 - 4 hours, ride each bike up and down the hill. Do it again three days later, riding the bikes in different order. Repeat every three or four days for the next 2 months. For longer weekend rides, rotate the bikes. Report to list. This experiment will result in no useable or defensible data, but will help me get my bucket (that's what my tailor calls it) in shape. RL 531 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Front Rack with Paul Racer Braze-ons?
Anyone try this, or know of anyone who has? Looking for a picture if possible. I'm having an old frame fitted with the Paul Racer braze ons, and wanted a rack up there too. The rack may end up being a custom, or a modified stainless rack from somewhere else. Just not sure if the special Paul bolts would accommodate a rack too. Thanks. Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Which Handlebar Bag?
Buck: The Barbox is about as big as you can go with a direct h'bar mount. I'd be inclined to try to work with that, maybe with mods as suggested above. The Acorn one looks quite nice (I have their boxy rando bag love it; takes a rack, tho) - you just have to haunt their site jump on it when they take orders. Definitely worth waiting for. Another option is a bar tube (Riv has had them; VO has one) for carrying stuff and then a separate map case. The pencil holders for student notebooks are the right size for a map case have grommets you can use for mounting. I used a bar tube for years if you can discipline yourself better than I'm able, they hold the keys/wallet/ phone/etc. but serious quanitities of real food (not powerbars!) need a bigger bag. dougP On Mar 4, 7:25 am, Buck ahurv...@gmail.com wrote: Here's what I think I want for my Atlantis which is set up as a day bike (recently posted more Flickr pics under username ahurvitz)... hammered honjos, shellacked bars, Pasela's. A smallish handlebar bag for day rides. I have a Keven on the saddle where I keep tools, lock, mini-pump, etc. I'm looking for a bag that doesn't need a front rack and hopefully not a decaleur. Big enough for a sandwich and maybe a banana. I have a really thin windbreaker that scrunches up really small (sandwich bag size). An outside pocket or two for my cellphone. and the top large enough for a small map case (maybe 9x5.5). I want it to be at least as classy as the Keven. The new Sackville BarSack looks great, but it's larger than I want and requires the Nitto decaleur. And that makes it $200, which is too much. I actually bought a BrandV Barbox, and it was about right, but it didn't match by bike's style. Very utilitarian, but the velcro, etc., wasn't right. I bid on a couple of used Baggins bags, but they're close to $200 including the decaleur. I've looked on peterwhitecycles, VO, Carradice, Zugster (nice but too expensive), etc. I'm thinking the Acorn handlebar bag would be nice and I can adapt a map holder. I tried ordering one the other day but they sold out within a couple of hours. I'd also be happy with a vintage bag in nice condition. Plan B is to have a friend make one out of waxed cotton. And that got me thinking... how come no one makes a bag that's about 10x5x5 and can accommodate a small map case? I'm asking because my fear is that I'll figure that out once it's made/bought and I realize it's too small. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My old Hillborne
Awesome story Ray. I think most people on this form felt the same way about Rivendell. I know i do. On Mar 3, 9:38 pm, Way Rebb grayc...@mac.com wrote: Hello, You folks seem like a fun group who might enjoy this. I thought I'd share some pics of my old Sam Hillborne…but first a story…no wait, the pics, skip the story: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrebb/sets/72157623480171652/ Way back in 1982 or '83 I purchased a brand spanking new Lotus Eclair touring bike in Santa Cruz, CA. That bike served me well for many years. I don't know how many miles I put on it (tons) but I used it for school, work, grocery stores, camping, tearing through the hills, the valleys, rain or shine. I didn't take long tours but did ride every major, and most minor, roads/trails in Santa Cruz / Monterey Counties probably a zillion times. Fast forward 25 years to my recent move to Livermore, CA. This place is flat. Poor old bike couldn't take that much pedaling and neither could I. We were used to standing and charging up hills or getting low, butt back, flying down hills, very little long stretches where we just pedaled. Now, the bent chainring squawked, the bent rear derailed squawked, my knees hurt after 30 miles or so, my neck hurt, shoulders, bleah. After many adjustments and attempts to make the endless pedaling more comfortable I decided I needed a new bike. Naturally I went to a bicycle store. Unfortunately very few of the things they had with two wheels resembled a bicycle. I decided to hit garage sales and flea markets. Not much there either. The bikes were really beat up or aluminum mountain bikes or etc. I wanted a steel touring bike, one that I could put racks, bags, bungee cords on and haul stuff. Suddenly I remembered this web site I visited. I had purchased a couple of things in the past and I think they sold a bike called a… umm… Atlantic maybe? It took a while to find it but it was Rivendell. I saw they had the Hilsen. It was almost what I was looking for except it didn't have cantilevers. It made number 2 on my list. The Kogswell made number 2 on my list as did a couple of others but nothing made number 1 so far. After about four more months of garage sales I saw Rivendell announce the Hillborne. A bike between the Hilsen and Atlantis with cantilevers! Finally a strong possible number 1. In Dec 08 I took a ride out to Walnut Creek. My first visit to Rivendell and I was impressed. Very friendly people and seeing the bikes in person was awe inspiring! The one Hillborne was out but Kevin kept adjusting seat posts and saying here try this one (Atlantis), here try this one (Bombadill), here try this one (Hilsen) until the Hillborne was back. I think I spent the entire day riding up and down the trail with a huge smile on my face. When I got back on the Lotus to ride home I immediately knew what was wrong. The Lotus was way to small. It was like riding a circus tricycle. I put a deposit on a Hillborne that day and picked it up in June of '09 and have been riding ever since with no pain. The Hillborne feels like a luxury bike I can really stretch out on. It takes the flats, hills, streams, roads, ruts, fence posts, everything like butter on a duck. The pictures sorta document the first six months and they are fun for me to look back on. I'm surprised by how many places I've been with the bike considering how little free time I have. It hasn't been just back and forth to work. Bikes are a great way to get around and a comfortable bike is even better. Thank you for putting up with my story. -Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: questions about a low-rider rack while still using a mini-front on top
JS:
My Atlantis came with no front eyelets ('03). I use the Nitto M-12
an Acorn boxy rando all the time, and add an old Blackburn low rider
set-up for tours. I added eyelets a while back, a dedicated pair for
each rack. Works well except the Blackburn seems a bit flimsy (it's
aluminum bolts together) but has not given any problems (yet). One
of my touring buds upgraded to a Tubus Duo for his LHT and reports
it's quite stiff solid. I'm thinking about that as well but would
need to move my lower set of eyelets.
Check with Wayne at the Touring Store; he's quite knowledgeable. I
THINK the reason the Duo says needs mid fork eyelets is perhaps it
won't work with U-bolts. The LHT has thru fork mounts which is what
Tubus shows for the Duo. I'm still trying to figure out if it will
work with braze-ons to either front or rear of the fork. The Touring
Store's website has photos dimensions for mounting. There's a
drawing that lists 160mm to 170mm between the mounting points for the
Duo, with the statement you must have through-the-fork mid-fork
eyelets.
dougP
On Mar 4, 4:55 am, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I recently posted about picking up a nitto big front rack..and while I
still may do that,
I am now wondering if there is any way I could leave my mini-front
rack on my S.H. which has mid fork eyelets brazed on and still
use some sort of low-rider pannier mounts that could be useful in an
upcoming trip, but that I could take off easily...
obviously I don't want a lot of racks for super specific purposes and
would love to just leave the mini-front on with a basket or bag on it
and mount panniers up front-down low on occasion.
here's the set up
http://gallery.me.com/jasonaschwartz#100056/bikeonbridge7
could the Tubus low rider racks be used underneath the mini-front,
using the same braze ons?
I'm sure I'd need longer bolts, but I'm worried about too much weight
on the eyelets themselves.
I'd love to try the Tubus Duo, as there is no bar that wraps around
the front wheel but
I've heard this rack needs to pass through mid-fork braze
ons..actually through the fork.
Does anyone have experience with this?
Thanks in Advance.
JS
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rondo.
Needs more luggagenice attachment for the lights. The only time my Atlantis looks that clean is before I hang everything back on it after a trip. Maybe I should pack lighter for day rides? the pack rat On Mar 3, 4:10 pm, muckum toddjeffr...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Wanted to share a few recent tweeks to the Atlantis. http://www.flickr.com/photos/24971...@n06/sets/72157623425544101/ Anybody doing Solvang Century? See you there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo
And for bonus points, does anyone have an idea of the thicknesses on my '90 RB-1? The brochure just says Ishiwata 022E quad-butted. I'm curious. :) -nathan On Mar 4, 2010, at 9:11 AM, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: Thanks for finding that... 8/6/8 for the larger sizes makes sense. Now, for the last piece of the puzzle - and for the prize cigar and kewpie doll - did Grant ever post the tubeset thicknesses for the Rambouillet? I looked back in old Readers and couldn't locate anything. On Mar 4, 7:31 am, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: gr...@rivbike.com grantmill...@gmail.com Date: Jul 9 2009, 1:21 pm Subject: Frame-Bike Plans (some) To: RBW Owners Bunch Newlite Roadbike. TheROADEO---final name, final spelling, thanks for all your input and don't take offense. This is really Mark's bike, by which I mean he asked for it/ suggested it as a bike for clubbies. He's a club rider a couple of days a week, and rides his cross bikes--which to me are light enough, at 19-20lb, even with fatty tires (and he's still the fastest by a good margin, and the humblest). But he sees his fellow clubbies buying road bikes with carbon this and that, and was thinking hmm, they should get a nice lugged steel bike, and if we made it light enough and roadynuff they probably would. Originally,'twas gunnabe for short reach brakes, but nobody here really rides with those anymore, so, with some input from Jay's, they'll use standard reach brakes, which means...about 56mm reach, about like the 'bouillet. TUBING: The goal is a clubbie bike, so it's going to be clubbie light, and it should, ideally, be ridding by somebody who is, if not clubbie light, at least knows how to ride light. A Nureyev-like 225-pounder who lifts over bumps and veers around pothholes and rides 32mm tires at 85psi rides lighter than a Nagurski-like 150-pounder who rides 23mm tires at 115psi and hits everything with a stiff body and locked arms. So, it's hard to give this bike a weight limit. I should point out that you aren't buying an engine with this bike; you're supplying the engine, and it's good to somewhat match the engine's weight with the frame's weight. OK: Up to 57cm, the main tube butts are 0.65, with 0.4bellies. Bigger than that, 0.8 butts with 0.6bellies. It's superstrong heat-treated steel, so strength isn't much of an issue. Flex is more of an issue, but nobody really anymore believes that flexless frames are the goal (I never have). A more rigid frame matters if you're toting weight, but not as much if you aren't, and as we introduce this as a superlight clubbie-bike, its flex-under-a-touring-load shouldn't matter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Riv hat
I believe this has been sold. On Mar 4, 12:17 pm, johnb jbust...@gmail.com wrote: I have a wool Rivendell cycling hat in orange. Very cool looking but does not fit my fat head. $15 covers hat and shipping to CONUS. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Front Rack with Paul Racer Braze-ons?
I ordered a new Coho Randonneuse with exactly that set up. Chuck made a custom rack for the bike that fits on the special Paul bolts and some lower rack mounts on the front forks. I can't take a picture because I had to have the fork ID honed ( tubing defect) and it's on its way back to me. Seems very stable but I have not built the bike up yet to test it out. ~Mike~ On Mar 4, 10:21 am, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Anyone try this, or know of anyone who has? Looking for a picture if possible. I'm having an old frame fitted with the Paul Racer braze ons, and wanted a rack up there too. The rack may end up being a custom, or a modified stainless rack from somewhere else. Just not sure if the special Paul bolts would accommodate a rack too. Thanks. Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo
According to the table here, Ishiwata 002 it is 9/6/9: http://www.vintage-trek.com/refurbish.htm The Ishiwata in the table doesn't have the qualifier E after the number; I don't know whether it's the same thing as the 002E of the RB-1. On Mar 4, 11:30 am, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote: And for bonus points, does anyone have an idea of the thicknesses on my '90 RB-1? The brochure just says Ishiwata 022E quad-butted. I'm curious. :) -nathan On Mar 4, 2010, at 9:11 AM, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: Thanks for finding that... 8/6/8 for the larger sizes makes sense. Now, for the last piece of the puzzle - and for the prize cigar and kewpie doll - did Grant ever post the tubeset thicknesses for the Rambouillet? I looked back in old Readers and couldn't locate anything. On Mar 4, 7:31 am, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: gr...@rivbike.com grantmill...@gmail.com Date: Jul 9 2009, 1:21 pm Subject: Frame-Bike Plans (some) To: RBW Owners Bunch Newlite Roadbike. TheROADEO---final name, final spelling, thanks for all your input and don't take offense. This is really Mark's bike, by which I mean he asked for it/ suggested it as a bike for clubbies. He's a club rider a couple of days a week, and rides his cross bikes--which to me are light enough, at 19-20lb, even with fatty tires (and he's still the fastest by a good margin, and the humblest). But he sees his fellow clubbies buying road bikes with carbon this and that, and was thinking hmm, they should get a nice lugged steel bike, and if we made it light enough and roadynuff they probably would. Originally,'twas gunnabe for short reach brakes, but nobody here really rides with those anymore, so, with some input from Jay's, they'll use standard reach brakes, which means...about 56mm reach, about like the 'bouillet. TUBING: The goal is a clubbie bike, so it's going to be clubbie light, and it should, ideally, be ridding by somebody who is, if not clubbie light, at least knows how to ride light. A Nureyev-like 225-pounder who lifts over bumps and veers around pothholes and rides 32mm tires at 85psi rides lighter than a Nagurski-like 150-pounder who rides 23mm tires at 115psi and hits everything with a stiff body and locked arms. So, it's hard to give this bike a weight limit. I should point out that you aren't buying an engine with this bike; you're supplying the engine, and it's good to somewhat match the engine's weight with the frame's weight. OK: Up to 57cm, the main tube butts are 0.65, with 0.4bellies. Bigger than that, 0.8 butts with 0.6bellies. It's superstrong heat-treated steel, so strength isn't much of an issue. Flex is more of an issue, but nobody really anymore believes that flexless frames are the goal (I never have). A more rigid frame matters if you're toting weight, but not as much if you aren't, and as we introduce this as a superlight clubbie-bike, its flex-under-a-touring-load shouldn't matter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] 59cm XO-3 on ebay
There's a 59cm 1993 XO-3 on ebay. It's super cheap as of right now with 3 days to go. I'd love to get a 55 for myself to set up as a city bike. There's not much stock on this one, if anything, but the XO-3 spec wasn't anything to write home about anyway: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320495024015ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT Affordable Atlantis? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Front Rack with Paul Racer Braze-ons?
On Mar 4, 1:21 pm, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Anyone try this, or know of anyone who has? Looking for a picture if possible. I'm having an old frame fitted with the Paul Racer braze ons, and wanted a rack up there too. The rack may end up being a custom, or a modified stainless rack from somewhere else. Just not sure if the special Paul bolts would accommodate a rack too. Thanks. yes. Paul's rack adaptor bolts work great. http://www.flickr.com/photos/hufnagelcycles/4096757221/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] 59cm XO-3 on ebay
This one might be a 55: http://stlouis.craigslist.org/bik/1584917370.html (local to me in STL) --dlloyd On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 14:09, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: There's a 59cm 1993 XO-3 on ebay. It's super cheap as of right now with 3 days to go. I'd love to get a 55 for myself to set up as a city bike. There's not much stock on this one, if anything, but the XO-3 spec wasn't anything to write home about anyway: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320495024015ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT Affordable Atlantis? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Front Rack with Paul Racer Braze-ons?
That Hufnagel is HOT HOT HOT. On Mar 4, 12:28 pm, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: On Mar 4, 1:21 pm, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Anyone try this, or know of anyone who has? Looking for a picture if possible. I'm having an old frame fitted with the Paul Racer braze ons, and wanted a rack up there too. The rack may end up being a custom, or a modified stainless rack from somewhere else. Just not sure if the special Paul bolts would accommodate a rack too. Thanks. yes. Paul's rack adaptor bolts work great. http://www.flickr.com/photos/hufnagelcycles/4096757221/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Front Rack with Paul Racer Braze-ons?
TA used to make swell little racks that attached to the Mafac brake braze ons and through the center brake hole. This worked for lighter weights, but would not be as stable as something that attaches to the brake braze ons then to the drop outs, or a separate set of braze ons further down the fork. On Mar 4, 12:21 pm, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Anyone try this, or know of anyone who has? Looking for a picture if possible. I'm having an old frame fitted with the Paul Racer braze ons, and wanted a rack up there too. The rack may end up being a custom, or a modified stainless rack from somewhere else. Just not sure if the special Paul bolts would accommodate a rack too. Thanks. Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: questions about a low-rider rack while still using a mini-front on top
Nope, but this one is: http://gspiess.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/touring-setup-007.jpg Nashbar front rack with Blackburn lowriders. I was going to get a Jandd Extreme front rack eventually, but this setup has worked flawlessly, all for $20. But of course, if I was camping with a Riv, I'd probably be more inclined to go with a Nitto setup. On Mar 4, 9:36 am, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote: yes, thats it.. You're bike? do you find it's OK to do that to the braze-ons? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Front Rack with Paul Racer Braze-ons?
Thanks all. Looks like I can safely commit to the brake and fork braze- ons and add a rack later. Marty On Mar 4, 4:02 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: TA used to make swell little racks that attached to the Mafac brake braze ons and through the center brake hole. This worked for lighter weights, but would not be as stable as something that attaches to the brake braze ons then to the drop outs, or a separate set of braze ons further down the fork. On Mar 4, 12:21 pm, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Anyone try this, or know of anyone who has? Looking for a picture if possible. I'm having an old frame fitted with the Paul Racer braze ons, and wanted a rack up there too. The rack may end up being a custom, or a modified stainless rack from somewhere else. Just not sure if the special Paul bolts would accommodate a rack too. Thanks. Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo
On Mar 4, 1:02 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: It is common knowledge that a surly cross check is overbuilt as a cross bike. Where does the Legolas fit in? How far is a Roadeo from a Legolas? or a Sachs for that matter? and what kind of abuses is one willing to put into the bike with respect to replacement cost and personal risk? a sachs cx frame weighs about 3.5 lbs. i get to see a lot of his cx bikes in action and they are ridden *hard.* riding tubies at 30psi helps to soften things up a bit and take the edge off the rough stuff - but still, i think it's proof that a high quality lightweight steel bike need not be relegated to paved roads/smoothish surfaces. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Front Rack with Paul Racer Braze-ons?
On Mar 4, 4:12 pm, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Thanks all. Looks like I can safely commit to the brake and fork braze- ons and add a rack later. Just be aware that with this set-up, the mounting point for the rack ends up being a little further off the fork braze-ons than normal - something to consider when settling on a rack design. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Front Rack with Paul Racer Braze-ons?
You could also go the route of a custom Pass Stow rack like so: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bradleyallen/4127543058/. It's custom made to fit around Paul canti brakes on a Quickbeam. -nathan On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Anyone try this, or know of anyone who has? Looking for a picture if possible. I'm having an old frame fitted with the Paul Racer braze ons, and wanted a rack up there too. The rack may end up being a custom, or a modified stainless rack from somewhere else. Just not sure if the special Paul bolts would accommodate a rack too. Thanks. Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo
On Mar 4, 1:19 pm, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: a sachs cx frame weighs about 3.5 lbs. i get to see a lot of his cx bikes in action and they are ridden *hard.* riding tubies at 30psi helps to soften things up a bit and take the edge off the rough stuff - but still, i think it's proof that a high quality lightweight steel bike need not be relegated to paved roads/smoothish surfaces. Are the Sachs race bikes replaced annually? I believe they are, based on Richard Sachs' blog entries about building team bikes for his sponsored riders. Most of us aren't looking for single-season frames, softie tubies or otherwise; but like you stated, a 3.5 lb steel race frame can be done. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] roadeo, first ride
i rode my new roadeo on its maiden voyage. just a super bike. 40mi., rolling hills around plymouth, ca. build as follows: 59cm roadeo, mary's blue campy chorus aluminum 10spd brifters, centaur derailleurs nitto pearl stem, 44 noodles, nitto stainless bottle cages shimano ultegra headset and r600 brakeset thomson seatpost with brooks b-17ti saddle ta zephyr crankset, 50-34, philwood bb record hubs, velocity aero and aero oc silver rims, 12-25 chorus cassette 700x28 grand bois cerf tires(75lbs front, 85lbs rear) sincerely, don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: roadeo, first ride
Now that you are bored of it, can I have it? I wouldn't change a thing. Not a single thing. On Mar 4, 4:32 pm, dpco dcompton1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: i rode my new roadeo on its maiden voyage. just a super bike. 40mi., rolling hills around plymouth, ca. build as follows: 59cm roadeo, mary's blue campy chorus aluminum 10spd brifters, centaur derailleurs nitto pearl stem, 44 noodles, nitto stainless bottle cages shimano ultegra headset and r600 brakeset thomson seatpost with brooks b-17ti saddle ta zephyr crankset, 50-34, philwood bb record hubs, velocity aero and aero oc silver rims, 12-25 chorus cassette 700x28 grand bois cerf tires(75lbs front, 85lbs rear) sincerely, don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] roadeo, first ride
Any idea how much it weighs, Don? In a message dated 3/4/2010 7:33:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, dcompton1...@sbcglobal.net writes: i rode my new roadeo on its maiden voyage. just a super bike. 40mi., rolling hills around plymouth, ca. build as follows: 59cm roadeo, mary's blue campy chorus aluminum 10spd brifters, centaur derailleurs nitto pearl stem, 44 noodles, nitto stainless bottle cages shimano ultegra headset and r600 brakeset thomson seatpost with brooks b-17ti saddle ta zephyr crankset, 50-34, philwood bb record hubs, velocity aero and aero oc silver rims, 12-25 chorus cassette 700x28 grand bois cerf tires(75lbs front, 85lbs rear) sincerely, don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: roadeo, first ride
to be fair, my build is not particularly light. with my old style look pedals, the bike weighs 22.8 lbs. if i went with full record, threadless stem, light bars, light wheels, and some race saddle, it would be 18-19 lbs. but, i don't ride against a clock. on our club rides we go fast for short periods and then cruise (18-20mph on the flats). i chose my build for the old look( no carbon ) and total practicality and comfort. the bike weighs almost the same as my old ram, but handles slightly quicker and feels more responsive when climbing out of the saddle on short, steep hills. if i had a choice between a ram and a roadeo, i would choose the roadeo because it is a better match to my type of riding. i bought my ram because the riv fit really helped me to enjoy my rides with less back pain. the 59cm roadeo and the 60cm. ram are very similar in fit. it will take me some time to grow tired of this bike. don c. On Mar 4, 4:48 pm, bpus...@aol.com wrote: Any idea how much it weighs, Don? In a message dated 3/4/2010 7:33:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, dcompton1...@sbcglobal.net writes: i rode my new roadeo on its maiden voyage. just a super bike. 40mi., rolling hills around plymouth, ca. build as follows: 59cm roadeo, mary's blue campy chorus aluminum 10spd brifters, centaur derailleurs nitto pearl stem, 44 noodles, nitto stainless bottle cages shimano ultegra headset and r600 brakeset thomson seatpost with brooks b-17ti saddle ta zephyr crankset, 50-34, philwood bb record hubs, velocity aero and aero oc silver rims, 12-25 chorus cassette 700x28 grand bois cerf tires(75lbs front, 85lbs rear) sincerely, don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] WTB Nitto DirtDrop/Technomic Standard stem
Not mine. http://austin.craigslist.org/bik/1628839826.html -- Jon ³Papa² Grant Illustration + Information Graphics Austin, Texas jgr...@papagrant.com 512-284-9599 From: nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:28:34 -0800 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com, internet-bob internet-...@bikelist.org Subject: [RBW] WTB Nitto DirtDrop/Technomic Standard stem I'm looking to buy a Nitto DirtDrop 10cm stem or a Nitto Technomic Standard 8-9cm stem (26.0 clamp). Surprisingly, RBW has neither in stock right now. -nathan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo
On Mar 4, 7:01 pm, benzzoy benz...@yahoo.com wrote: Are the Sachs race bikes replaced annually? I don't think so. New framesets for new team members, of course - but each rider gets 2 bikes (one for the pit!), and there's no reason to replace annually unless one fails. the columbus spirit for lugs (aka pegorichie) tubing strikes a really nice balance between weight/strength - framebuilders seem to like it, and riders do too. I think sachs uses a slightly lighter version of these tubes for his team bikes, but off-the-shelf pegorichie tubes seem like a great option for anyone that wants a lightweight road bike that can handle gravel grinder/dirt road/mixed terrain action. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: questions about a low-rider rack while still using a mini-front on top
JS, I'm running a Nitto Mark's Rack, with a Tubus Nova over the top on the same mid-fork braze-on, on my nubster. Works just fine: http://www.flickr.com/photos/39151...@n07/4339719394/in/set-72157623375460150/ Have fun! Alex Moll Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Complete!
Finally finished it building it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/4407972696/in/pool-rivendell Rivendell Rambouillet, 60cm Shimano parts: Dura-Ace Octalink crank 53/39/30 XTR triple BB Ultegra front triple derailler XT rear long cage derailler XT 11-32 9sp cassette Ultegra headset Dura-Ace quill stem Dura-Ace seatpost Dura-Ace/XTR chain Dura-Ace brake and shifter cables XT hubs Velocity Dyad rims, DT spokes 36h Wheels by Hands on Wheels/ Rich Lesnik Nitto Noodle handlebar, 48cm Tekro: R538 calipers R200A levers RL720 cyclocross levers Brooks B17 saddle Panaracer Pasela TG 32mm MKS MT-lux compe pedals and strapless half toe-clips Acorn medium/large bag Velo-Orange anodized fenders King Iris water bottle cages Topeak Road Master Blaster frame pump cork tape, twine, and amber shellac And we're finally getting above freezing here, and no snow! Finished just in time! Now, to go and ride my butt off. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What's in Your Saddlebag?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/4407871186/in/pool-rivendell/ Saddlebag is an Acorn medium/large bag Park MTB-7 multi tool Park CT-5 chain tool Park SW-7 spoke wrench Park TL-1 tire lever set Rema patch kit Boeshield T9 two inner tubes three spare chain pins red/blue two-sided bandana Not shown: Swiss Army knife Brooks saddle cover On Jan 30, 11:04 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 9:48 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: Here's my AR kit, which I had to raid to get some patches (which I ended up not needing). http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4315416462/ I see from your other photos that you are sensitive to parking etiquette. My feelings exactly. One nice thing about having a 20 year old Plymouth van covered in stickers is that I can pull up rel close to the driver's door of someone straddling a line without fear of consequences. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] roadeo forks
some of you guys subscribe to jan heine's bicycle quarterly. in one edition, he described different forks, specifically blades. he mentioned imperial oval. i noticed that the fork crown on my roadeo is narrower than the crown on my ram. but the fork blades are very ovalized. i have to reiterate, this bike rides great and the fork, while very forgiving, is in no way flimsy. just an observation. don c. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Complete!
Leslie, Beautiful job. Do you know the width of your BB? Also, what's the tape used on your handbars and formula (shellac / coats) used in getting the look. Can you post some close ups when convenient? I'm 2-3 weeks away from putting together my Atlantis and am interested in details. Finally, are the BB cable guides brazed on and are you running bare cable through them or have cable running through housing? Thanks, Mitch - Sunny San Luis Obispo, CA On Mar 4, 7:15 pm, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: Finally finished it building it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/4407972696/in/pool-rivendell Rivendell Rambouillet, 60cm Shimano parts: Dura-Ace Octalink crank 53/39/30 XTR triple BB Ultegra front triple derailler XT rear long cage derailler XT 11-32 9sp cassette Ultegra headset Dura-Ace quill stem Dura-Ace seatpost Dura-Ace/XTR chain Dura-Ace brake and shifter cables XT hubs Velocity Dyad rims, DT spokes 36h Wheels by Hands on Wheels/ Rich Lesnik Nitto Noodle handlebar, 48cm Tekro: R538 calipers R200A levers RL720 cyclocross levers Brooks B17 saddle Panaracer Pasela TG 32mm MKS MT-lux compe pedals and strapless half toe-clips Acorn medium/large bag Velo-Orange anodized fenders King Iris water bottle cages Topeak Road Master Blaster frame pump cork tape, twine, and amber shellac And we're finally getting above freezing here, and no snow! Finished just in time! Now, to go and ride my butt off. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Complete!
I got the crank from here on the list; it was an Octalink crank, I needed an Octalink V1 BB; I wanted an Ultegra, but those are NLA. Because I have a triple crank, I went with a triple BB. The XTR is 116.5; however, the DA and 105 BB is 118. I would suggest the 105's instead; I had to put both the thicker spacers on the ring side and the two thin ones on the other side, in order to space the ring out enough to keep the inner-ring bolts from tinking on the chainstay. My *original* plan was to use cork rings, like used on fly-rod handles; I still am contemplating it at some point down the road, but is going to take planning. Plan B was to use brown and gray tape in a harlequin pattern. However, I ended up not finding brown at my LBS', and wanted to get it taped instead of waiting on it to arrive. SO plan C, what I you see, is regular ol' Inline brand 'cork tape' and normal hemp twine; Bullseye shellac, amber... first coat was a 'good' coat, then about a half-hour later a second coat aiming to hit spots missed, then an overcoat of the first. Next evening, put on a third coat, again focusing on any thin spots, trying to even it out. There was another photo, http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/4407872650/in/photostream/ .In addition to both ends of the tape, I also twined around/under the hoods, and also where the shifter cables leave from the tape. Once the shifter cables leave the downtube adapters, they're, bare down to under the bottom bracket shell, and on across it to where they reach the deraillers. On Mar 4, 10:44 pm, Mitch Browne mitch.bro...@gmail.com wrote: Leslie, Beautiful job. Do you know the width of your BB? Also, what's the tape used on your handbars and formula (shellac / coats) used in getting the look. Can you post some close ups when convenient? I'm 2-3 weeks away from putting together my Atlantis and am interested in details. Finally, are the BB cable guides brazed on and are you running bare cable through them or have cable running through housing? Thanks, Mitch - Sunny San Luis Obispo, CA On Mar 4, 7:15 pm, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: Finally finished it building it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/4407972696/in/pool-rivendell Rivendell Rambouillet, 60cm Shimano parts: Dura-Ace Octalink crank 53/39/30 XTR triple BB Ultegra front triple derailler XT rear long cage derailler XT 11-32 9sp cassette Ultegra headset Dura-Ace quill stem Dura-Ace seatpost Dura-Ace/XTR chain Dura-Ace brake and shifter cables XT hubs Velocity Dyad rims, DT spokes 36h Wheels by Hands on Wheels/ Rich Lesnik Nitto Noodle handlebar, 48cm Tekro: R538 calipers R200A levers RL720 cyclocross levers Brooks B17 saddle Panaracer Pasela TG 32mm MKS MT-lux compe pedals and strapless half toe-clips Acorn medium/large bag Velo-Orange anodized fenders King Iris water bottle cages Topeak Road Master Blaster frame pump cork tape, twine, and amber shellac And we're finally getting above freezing here, and no snow! Finished just in time! Now, to go and ride my butt off. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: roadeo forks
Photos, Don, Photos! Bill On Mar 4, 7:44 pm, dpco dcompton1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: some of you guys subscribe to jan heine's bicycle quarterly. in one edition, he described different forks, specifically blades. he mentioned imperial oval. i noticed that the fork crown on my roadeo is narrower than the crown on my ram. but the fork blades are very ovalized. i have to reiterate, this bike rides great and the fork, while very forgiving, is in no way flimsy. just an observation. don c. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: roadeo forks
yeah i know, they are forthcoming. you guys are a tough nut. don c. On Mar 4, 8:38 pm, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: Photos, Don, Photos! Bill On Mar 4, 7:44 pm, dpco dcompton1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: some of you guys subscribe to jan heine's bicycle quarterly. in one edition, he described different forks, specifically blades. he mentioned imperial oval. i noticed that the fork crown on my roadeo is narrower than the crown on my ram. but the fork blades are very ovalized. i have to reiterate, this bike rides great and the fork, while very forgiving, is in no way flimsy. just an observation. don c. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] JAck Brons and Honjo 43mm?
Has any body here pushed the limits? What is the tightest fender a Jack Brown has been squeezed into? Rob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: JAck Brons and Honjo 43mm?
Good God, I should not type anything right before bed, sorry for the spelling On Mar 4, 9:24 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: Has any body here pushed the limits? What is the tightest fender a Jack Brown has been squeezed into? Rob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: JAck Brons and Honjo 43mm?
On Mar 4, 9:24 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: Has any body here pushed the limits? What is the tightest fender a Jack Brown has been squeezed into? I have 43mm fluted Honjos that are covering Jack Browns. The fit is quite tight but I haven't had any rubbing or snagging issues in hundreds of miles of riding, even that time when I went trail-riding on the way up to Mt. Hamilton with a small bunch from this list. (On the other hand, I also have Planet Bike 60mm Cascadia fenders covering 26x1.6 Continentals (really only 37mm wide) on my Surly. Those tires look positively lost in all that empty space. :) ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo
Does this mean that a Roadeo has at least an extra half a pound of overly stout tubing? Or does the weight savings on the Sachs frames come from other things? I mean, all those baroque touches on Riv lugs must weigh something, right? ;) a sachs cx frame weighs about 3.5 lbs. i get to see a lot of his cx bikes in action and they are ridden *hard.* riding tubies at 30psi helps to soften things up a bit and take the edge off the rough stuff - but still, i think it's proof that a high quality lightweight steel bike need not be relegated to paved roads/smoothish surfaces. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My old Hillborne
Thank you all for the kind words. It was fun putting the post together. I'm not a real big internet gabber but I've been following this groups adventures for a couple of months and figured what the heck. I think the bike is about finished. Very reliable low maintenance transportation which is what I was looking for...although I might go back to smaller bags in summer, or maybe a bigger rack in back that I could really lash stuff to with some big fat tires, or maybe change it all to baskets and try to find an orange fork to put on or... Regards, Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: For Sale 64cm A. Homer Hilsen
To help get the right geometry info, can you tell us if this frame is supposed to be the 63 or the 65cm? There doesn't seem to be a 64 AHH. Oliver -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Complete!
Go green Rambo's! Does anyone have a rough timeline for when the three different colored models were produced? Rob http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2766/4383522461_bf22af47af.jpg; Markwardt On Mar 4, 7:15 pm, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: Finally finished it building it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/4407972696/in/pool-rivendell Rivendell Rambouillet, 60cm Shimano parts: Dura-Ace Octalink crank 53/39/30 XTR triple BB Ultegra front triple derailler XT rear long cage derailler XT 11-32 9sp cassette Ultegra headset Dura-Ace quill stem Dura-Ace seatpost Dura-Ace/XTR chain Dura-Ace brake and shifter cables XT hubs Velocity Dyad rims, DT spokes 36h Wheels by Hands on Wheels/ Rich Lesnik Nitto Noodle handlebar, 48cm Tekro: R538 calipers R200A levers RL720 cyclocross levers Brooks B17 saddle Panaracer Pasela TG 32mm MKS MT-lux compe pedals and strapless half toe-clips Acorn medium/large bag Velo-Orange anodized fenders King Iris water bottle cages Topeak Road Master Blaster frame pump cork tape, twine, and amber shellac And we're finally getting above freezing here, and no snow! Finished just in time! Now, to go and ride my butt off. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Complete!
Or how about green without Hilsen/Saluki-like details or green with Hilsen/Saluki-like details? Hilsen/Saluki-like details = those lugs plus the eyelets on fork and seatstay for mini-racks. There was a last little batch of Rams with those details, making the rest of us Ram owners slightly envious. That's the kind of problem you want to have! Amazing bike, by the way. -Jim W. -Original Message- From: rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.com Sent: Mar 5, 2010 12:59 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Complete! Go green Rambo's! Does anyone have a rough timeline for when the three different colored models were produced? Rob http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2766/4383522461_bf22af47af.jpg; Markwardt On Mar 4, 7:15 pm, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: Finally finished it building it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/4407972696/in/pool-rivendell Rivendell Rambouillet, 60cm Shimano parts: Dura-Ace Octalink crank 53/39/30 XTR triple BB Ultegra front triple derailler XT rear long cage derailler XT 11-32 9sp cassette Ultegra headset Dura-Ace quill stem Dura-Ace seatpost Dura-Ace/XTR chain Dura-Ace brake and shifter cables XT hubs Velocity Dyad rims, DT spokes 36h Wheels by Hands on Wheels/ Rich Lesnik Nitto Noodle handlebar, 48cm Tekro: R538 calipers R200A levers RL720 cyclocross levers Brooks B17 saddle Panaracer Pasela TG 32mm MKS MT-lux compe pedals and strapless half toe-clips Acorn medium/large bag Velo-Orange anodized fenders King Iris water bottle cages Topeak Road Master Blaster frame pump cork tape, twine, and amber shellac And we're finally getting above freezing here, and no snow! Finished just in time! Now, to go and ride my butt off. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
