Re: [RBW] Bar Tape
I'm thinking of trying leather bar tape and found this thread. Any opinions on Berthoud vs. Handlebra? http://www.wallbike.com/berthoud/handlebars-stems-seatposts/berthoud-leatherline-bar-tape http://handlebra.com/ Thanks, David G, Madison, WI On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:56 AM, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.comwrote: Long ago, when I had my dark green Bombadil, I used Newbaum's green tape (sold by Riv) and amber shellac that I prepared myself. The color was gorgeous and it would have been a great match for the green Sackville bags. You can see a close-up here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/4530205372/in/set-72157622958472288 Right now I've switched to Bullmoose bars on almost all my bikes and love the ergonomic PDW leather grips. However, for the last year+ I've been using honey Brooks leather tape and love it. Also tried the natural Berhoud tape and love how it looks. On my old pre-Riv days, the bar tape I preferred the most was the Fizik; in fact, when I got my AHH I first used Fizik tape on it. Photo here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/3978138456/in/set-72157622508702300 René On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Smitty-A-Go-Go 54ca...@gmail.com wrote: I love that for relatively cheaply ($10-$35) I can change out bar tape and not only change the look of my bikes I can change the feel too. I've tried the Newbaums and Soma tapes from Riv. I've got a couple rolls of their Japanese tape sitting on my parts shelf for future use. I've also tried a rubbery type tape with Bontrager branding. I haven't disliked any of the tapes I've tried, and I've kind of enjoyed their differences. I think the next 2 on my list to pick up are Fizik Microtex and Lizardskins DSP. I would be interested to hear from anyone who's used either of these regarding if/how/why you liked them. Does anyone have a bar tape that they particularly love? In the spirit of elevating my bag-matcher status... has anyone tried to match bar tape to their green Sackville bags? I assume green cloth wrap + a few coats of amber shellac would get reasonably close. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Downhill video
This remind me of this clip of Sam Hill (Riv content: similar name to Sam Hillborne?) that I recently came across which to me is even more impressive (and insane): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwOvyw3lnik Aaron Y. Rochester, NY On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 8:59 AM, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.comwrote: This must be part of the standard EN testing (mentioned on the current BLUG posthttp://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/18970478258/i-know-its-kind-of-a-cheap-shot-to-show-this) that all the Riv models go through. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hillborne sighting in Clarendon (No. VA.)- whose?
I still have yet to have a sighting of the elusive Rivendell down here in the Tampa area. In fact, the only Rivendell I have ever seen in person is the one I own. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/9zB2689bYNgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Help with Identification
Appears to be a custom. I don't recognize the headbadge. On Saturday, March 10, 2012 12:58:30 AM UTC-6, Andy Williams wrote: Saw this in Philadelphia, and wonder if anyone recognizes the brand? http://www.flickr.com/photos/awilliams53/6968566771/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/awilliams53/6968566935/ Andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/fcpsRIKjP1AJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Heron touring frameset-57cm
I think the color looks good, and I'll point out as a former Heron Touring owner, those are great bikes. On Mar 10, 2012, at 4:21 AM, mikel66...@juno.com wrote: Heron fully lugged frame/fork/headset. fits 700x38c tires/fenders, 3 bottle mounts. ive toured the C O Towpath and The Katy Trail, both crushed limestone/dirt, on this frame with great results. made in the USA by Waterford. Original paint was Bailey Falls Blue but foolishly opted for something brighter. definately not professionally resprayed but rather 'quick and dirty'...but it held up remarkably well. $550 shipped mike goldman warwick,r.i. 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried consumerproducts.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. DSC02027.JPGDSC02028.JPGDSC02029.JPGDSC02030.JPGDSC02032.JPG James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - Remember, my friends, it is better to feel fast than to be fast. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Feb 28th Blug - Are they doing what I think they are doing?
http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/18453547329/variety-pacque A bit past half way down the 2/28 Blug post (yeah, I don't keep current on the Blug), there's a paragraph about wrestilng with a modern Campy crank. The photo shows Mark attacking the crank with a puller. The paragraph laments the loss of the 'servicability' of old Campy parts. The thing is, that's clearly an Ultra Torque crank in the photo. It has external cups and retaining clip on the drive side cup. It's as easy a crank / BB to mount or dismount as it can possibly be. There's no need for a crank puller on one of those, and no possible use for one. The removal procedure is at the bottom of this page from Park Tool: http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/external-bearing-crank-systems-hollowtech-ii-megaexo-giga-x-pipe-x-type-campagnolo-ultra-torque Remove one bolt from inside the split hollow spindle, remove the retainer clip, and the cranks slide right out. Did someone manage to strip out or cross thread the spindle bolt? That would make it a pain to get the crank apart, but the puller probably wouldn't help. You'd want to drill out the bolt instead. The only other explanation I can think of is that someone is treating that crank like it has a square taper and a cartridge BB. No good will come of that. I hope they haven't taken a hacksaw to that crank. Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Lytro Camera Meets Riv-ish Bike
Playing around with my new Lytro camera, and took this photo of Patrick's former Motobecane: https://pictures.lytro.com/campyonlyguy/pictures/31110 Enjoy. More photos to come. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Any truly appealing panniers I'm missing?
Hi Patrick, The Carradice Super C hooks are super nice. They start wide and then you engage the hook until it locks into the rack. It handles many widths of racks including my wider Old Man Mountain? rack and skinnier blackburn rack. The Ortlieb comes with different adapters that allow you to use it with different racks, so it's not as useful in that regard because you would have to change out the adapters to use with different racks (I don't know the maximum width). Best, Toshi On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:47 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Toshi. If I remember the Carradice system from the --- senile mental fart: forget the -- aha! Kendalls! -- If I remember those properly the C system was a bit less bulky than Ortlieb's; I had to grind the outer hook covers down on my Packers and smaller front packers to clear the fatter 1.35 Kojak when fitting them to the very minimalist Chauncey Matthews rear rack. I must check the Carradices if and when I next buy some. Meanwhile the Ortliebs are very, very nice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS - Bullmoose setup, Shifters and others
All sold. Thanks everyone! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/72tJZp6Z9RkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Finally a little time to write up some NAHBS reflections with photos
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. So glad the show came back out west so I could see it. Mulling whether I can manage a trip to Denver for nest year. Best, Addison On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.comwrote: Great post Addison! It's hard to step back and not be distracted by all the shiny parts and gleaming bikes but you're right. Despite Rivendell not having a booth their presence is very clear in the designs and ideals of the builders there. On Mar 7, 8:02 pm, Addison Wilhite addisonwilh...@gmail.com wrote: http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2012/03/reflections-on-north-america... Cheers, -- Addisonhttp://reno-rambler.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Addison http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Heron touring frameset-57cm
Seen that baby before! What's the stand over with that set up? On Saturday, March 10, 2012 7:21:56 AM UTC-5, mike goldman wrote: Heron fully lugged frame/fork/headset. fits 700x38c tires/fenders, 3 bottle mounts. ive toured the C O Towpath and The Katy Trail, both crushed limestone/dirt, on this frame with great results. made in the USA by Waterford. Original paint was Bailey Falls Blue but foolishly opted for something brighter. definately not professionally resprayed but rather 'quick and dirty'...but it held up remarkably well. $550 shipped mike goldman warwick,r.i. *53 Year Old Mom Looks 33* The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3132/4f5b4792405012466cf1st04duc consumerproducts.comhttp://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3132/4f5b4792405012466cf1st04duc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/JBt939WPkn8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Feb 28th Blug - Are they doing what I think they are doing?
I don't know how you can be so certain of the crank ID. One thing in the blog I can attest to, 1980s vintage Campy parts were a snap to service, wy easier than anything on the market today. But they did demand regular attention. Michael On Saturday, March 10, 2012 11:45:17 AM UTC-5, Bill M. wrote: http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/18453547329/variety-pacque A bit past half way down the 2/28 Blug post (yeah, I don't keep current on the Blug), there's a paragraph about wrestilng with a modern Campy crank. The photo shows Mark attacking the crank with a puller. The paragraph laments the loss of the 'servicability' of old Campy parts. The thing is, that's clearly an Ultra Torque crank in the photo. It has external cups and retaining clip on the drive side cup. It's as easy a crank / BB to mount or dismount as it can possibly be. There's no need for a crank puller on one of those, and no possible use for one. The removal procedure is at the bottom of this page from Park Tool: http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/external-bearing-crank-systems-hollowtech-ii-megaexo-giga-x-pipe-x-type-campagnolo-ultra-torque Remove one bolt from inside the split hollow spindle, remove the retainer clip, and the cranks slide right out. Did someone manage to strip out or cross thread the spindle bolt? That would make it a pain to get the crank apart, but the puller probably wouldn't help. You'd want to drill out the bolt instead. The only other explanation I can think of is that someone is treating that crank like it has a square taper and a cartridge BB. No good will come of that. I hope they haven't taken a hacksaw to that crank. Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/WkuCQForxtEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Heron touring frameset-57cm
i took off the headset so not sure about standover. i could install the lower race and cup for those highly interested mike goldman warwick,r.i. The New #34;Skinny#34; Fruit How This Strange 62-Cent African Fruit Is Making Americans Skinny. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4f5ba49b45c46259cb9est01duc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Lytro Camera Meets Riv-ish Bike
Eric, Wow, really cool! You must be having fun with this camera. It would be neat to see photos of interesting bike shops and framebuilder workshops with this camera system -- click to focus and zoom in. Like all of the nifty stuff in JP Weigle's workshop: http://www.flickr.com/photos/49353569@N00/6836344977/in/photostream Take some photos at RBW HQ! I imagine this technology is going to get better and better, with more depth(s) of focus and ability to zoom in -- in the near future I bet you will be able to go somewhere, snap a few panoramic shots, and when you get home, click and zoom/focus to explore all the details, kind of like human-scale Google Earth. Have a camera mounted on your helmet, and set it to snap a photo every 10 minutes or on voice command, and when you get home relive portions of the bike ride and share photos with friends. - David G, Madison WI On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Playing around with my new Lytro camera, and took this photo of Patrick's former Motobecane: https://pictures.lytro.com/campyonlyguy/pictures/31110 Enjoy. More photos to come. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Feb 28th Blug - Are they doing what I think they are doing?
I thought the same as you... but... it is not an Ultra-Torque. It is a Power-Torque. Power Torque is as bad as the photo makes it seem. Search this list for discussion. I am happy to have alloy Ultra-Torques from 2007. Cheers, Sean --- On Sat, 3/10/12, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net Subject: [RBW] Feb 28th Blug - Are they doing what I think they are doing? To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, March 10, 2012, 11:45 AM http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/18453547329/variety-pacque A bit past half way down the 2/28 Blug post (yeah, I don't keep current on the Blug), there's a paragraph about wrestilng with a modern Campy crank. The photo shows Mark attacking the crank with a puller. The paragraph laments the loss of the 'servicability' of old Campy parts. The thing is, that's clearly an Ultra Torque crank in the photo. It has external cups and retaining clip on the drive side cup. It's as easy a crank / BB to mount or dismount as it can possibly be. There's no need for a crank puller on one of those, and no possible use for one. The removal procedure is at the bottom of this page from Park Tool: http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/external-bearing-crank-systems-hollowtech-ii-megaexo-giga-x-pipe-x-type-campagnolo-ultra-torque Remove one bolt from inside the split hollow spindle, remove the retainer clip, and the cranks slide right out. Did someone manage to strip out or cross thread the spindle bolt? That would make it a pain to get the crank apart, but the puller probably wouldn't help. You'd want to drill out the bolt instead. The only other explanation I can think of is that someone is treating that crank like it has a square taper and a cartridge BB. No good will come of that. I hope they haven't taken a hacksaw to that crank. Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Feb 28th Blug - Are they doing what I think they are doing?
http://bikehugger.com/post/view/campagnolo-power-torque-cranks On Saturday, March 10, 2012 2:00:53 PM UTC-6, Sean Whelan wrote: I thought the same as you... but... it is not an Ultra-Torque. It is a Power-Torque. Power Torque is as bad as the photo makes it seem. Search this list for discussion. I am happy to have alloy Ultra-Torques from 2007. Cheers, Sean --- On Sat, 3/10/12, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net Subject: [RBW] Feb 28th Blug - Are they doing what I think they are doing? To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, March 10, 2012, 11:45 AM http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/18453547329/variety-pacque A bit past half way down the 2/28 Blug post (yeah, I don't keep current on the Blug), there's a paragraph about wrestilng with a modern Campy crank. The photo shows Mark attacking the crank with a puller. The paragraph laments the loss of the 'servicability' of old Campy parts. The thing is, that's clearly an Ultra Torque crank in the photo. It has external cups and retaining clip on the drive side cup. It's as easy a crank / BB to mount or dismount as it can possibly be. There's no need for a crank puller on one of those, and no possible use for one. The removal procedure is at the bottom of this page from Park Tool: http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/external-bearing-crank-systems-hollowtech-ii-megaexo-giga-x-pipe-x-type-campagnolo-ultra-torque Remove one bolt from inside the split hollow spindle, remove the retainer clip, and the cranks slide right out. Did someone manage to strip out or cross thread the spindle bolt? That would make it a pain to get the crank apart, but the puller probably wouldn't help. You'd want to drill out the bolt instead. The only other explanation I can think of is that someone is treating that crank like it has a square taper and a cartridge BB. No good will come of that. I hope they haven't taken a hacksaw to that crank. Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/idZwR00bMAoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Feb 28th Blug - Are they doing what I think they are doing?
There had to be an explanation. I hadn't paid any attention to PT since it came out after I bought my UT cranks. This looks as fun as extracting cotter pins from steel cranks. I'm not big on fixing aluminum crankarms to splines, this reinforces that bias. Bill On Mar 10, 12:00 pm, Sean Whelan strummer_...@yahoo.com wrote: I thought the same as you... but... it is not an Ultra-Torque. It is a Power-Torque. Power Torque is as bad as the photo makes it seem. Search this list for discussion. I am happy to have alloy Ultra-Torques from 2007. Cheers, Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Feb 28th Blug - Are they doing what I think they are doing?
That is several levels of stupid. The Campy Only crowd must be choking. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Saturday, March 10, 2012 12:16:36 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: http://bikehugger.com/post/view/campagnolo-power-torque-cranks On Saturday, March 10, 2012 2:00:53 PM UTC-6, Sean Whelan wrote: I thought the same as you... but... it is not an Ultra-Torque. It is a Power-Torque. Power Torque is as bad as the photo makes it seem. Search this list for discussion. I am happy to have alloy Ultra-Torques from 2007. Cheers, Sean --- On Sat, 3/10/12, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net Subject: [RBW] Feb 28th Blug - Are they doing what I think they are doing? To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, March 10, 2012, 11:45 AM http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/18453547329/variety-pacque A bit past half way down the 2/28 Blug post (yeah, I don't keep current on the Blug), there's a paragraph about wrestilng with a modern Campy crank. The photo shows Mark attacking the crank with a puller. The paragraph laments the loss of the 'servicability' of old Campy parts. The thing is, that's clearly an Ultra Torque crank in the photo. It has external cups and retaining clip on the drive side cup. It's as easy a crank / BB to mount or dismount as it can possibly be. There's no need for a crank puller on one of those, and no possible use for one. The removal procedure is at the bottom of this page from Park Tool: http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/external-bearing-crank-systems-hollowtech-ii-megaexo-giga-x-pipe-x-type-campagnolo-ultra-torque Remove one bolt from inside the split hollow spindle, remove the retainer clip, and the cranks slide right out. Did someone manage to strip out or cross thread the spindle bolt? That would make it a pain to get the crank apart, but the puller probably wouldn't help. You'd want to drill out the bolt instead. The only other explanation I can think of is that someone is treating that crank like it has a square taper and a cartridge BB. No good will come of that. I hope they haven't taken a hacksaw to that crank. Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/dQG_l7ZUslUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Feb 28th Blug - Are they doing what I think they are doing?
The only problem I have found with the UT cranks are that the bearings are not actually sealed. Seized drive-side bearings are fairly common, if you ride in all weather, as many of us do. I had to replace the bearings with less than 5000 miles on them. cheers, Sean --- On Sat, 3/10/12, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net Subject: [RBW] Re: Feb 28th Blug - Are they doing what I think they are doing? To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, March 10, 2012, 3:46 PM There had to be an explanation. I hadn't paid any attention to PT since it came out after I bought my UT cranks. This looks as fun as extracting cotter pins from steel cranks. I'm not big on fixing aluminum crankarms to splines, this reinforces that bias. Bill On Mar 10, 12:00 pm, Sean Whelan strummer_...@yahoo.com wrote: I thought the same as you... but... it is not an Ultra-Torque. It is a Power-Torque. Power Torque is as bad as the photo makes it seem. Search this list for discussion. I am happy to have alloy Ultra-Torques from 2007. Cheers, Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: An oft-owned Bombadil seems to be for sale again
Is this the prototype 52 as seen on Cyclofiend's Riv page? On Friday, March 9, 2012 7:49:55 PM UTC-8, Minh wrote: Yes i noticed too, was wondering why he was using Williwoods pictures, but he's selling a lot of bikes (like 8 at the same time), if its not legit he's really going all out for it, and the non-rivendell bikes look more unique, so maybe he just like will's pictures... On Friday, March 9, 2012 7:49:20 PM UTC-5, William wrote: My understanding of the history is that jinxed owned it, and williwoods owned it. Last year williwoods had to fight and scratch to sell it, and maybe he did finally succeed. Here's that old thread: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/bombadil$20for$20sale/rbw-owners-bunch/cyWi-nqvSe0/wm3I2elhgM4J Now that identical frame and fork appears to be for sale on ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/190648713986?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_559wt_1344 using the identical photos. Low starting price $900, but the seller claims it's 2003 model, which I don't think is possible. I don't know if it's even on the up and up, but even if it is, that Bomba has had lots of owners by now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AzZ8ycggKaQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Latest Riv-ish Lytro Pictures
Got a picture of my Quickbeam and a few other shots worth sharing today: https://pictures.lytro.com/campyonlyguy/stories/6072 --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Latest Riv-ish Lytro Pictures
Eric: on the first photo you posted, of the Motobecane, I like how the wire guard for the tail light seems to continue the line of the fender struts -- is that deliberate? On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Got a picture of my Quickbeam and a few other shots worth sharing today: https://pictures.lytro.com/campyonlyguy/stories/6072 --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Wide, fat, heavy and slow on the hills!
I just pushed the Fargo 19 rolling-hilly miles around Rio Rancho, NM with the SnoCat/Big Apple wheelset at about 30/35 -- much higher and the bumps start feeling as if I'm riding 23s at 120 (that is a slight exaggeration, but seriously, I've found that the fatter the tire, the harsher the ride if you overinflate); this after having let the heavyweight wheelset sit for weeks while I rode the Rhyno Lites with the new 330 gram, 35 mm Kojaks. I must say that the combination of 800 gram rims with 800 gram tires (both rim and tire are the Lite versions) and 200 gram tubes makes a, ahem, difference -- a 3 1/2 lb difference between the two wheelsets, I estimate. This wheelset is wonderful on sandy terrain and it rolls very well on the flats, both on pavement and on choppy but firmish dirt, but as soon as you encounter an incline, man do you feel that weight! I emphasize: the Big Apples roll very, very will for such a wide carcass with a protective belt -- I push along on the flats on firm surfaces in a 46/20 for a 67 cruising gear, compared to 70 to 75 for a road bike with nice tires. But again, tilt upward, and wham, gravity intervenes. (Btw, Newton posited gravity as a placeholder for his theory; a mere name to signify that one body moved toward another in proportion to their respective masses; but he said quite explicitly that he had no idea what cause, if anything, was behind this word and, further, he says explicitly in the Principia that action at a distance -- ie, physical action without actual contact of bodies -- was, quite literally, unthinkable.) Whatever gravity may or may not be, those BA and SnoCats sure feel like cold molasses on uphills. Long windup. Those of you who ride 60 mm Big Apples or similar tires: how do you find them on hills? What pressures do you use on pavement, and what is your weight? -- of course, that decides how firm the tire has to be. Would I be better off with lighter and narrower rims (wish I hadn't sold those Salsa P35s!) at the expense of less sidewall support? The new 42 Noodles felt noticeably more natural than the 46s they replaced. More generally, the Fargo is set up very nicely: it feels very natural even though the bar is some 4 to 5 cm higher than on the benchmark Rivs. On pavement I spend most of my time in the hooks, for with the bars this high, even the hoods seem rather tippy unless I bend my elbows, a natural inclination. The BB7s are powerful but lack the nice, smooth and easily modulated control that good cantis have -- by good cantis I mean either old Shimano wide profiles or those IRCs that Riv sells. And you have to keep bending the g-d disks back into plane, at least if, as I do, you very frequently carry the wheels off-bike in the back of your car. I'd prefer a bit more weight and thickness for disks that didn't bend out of plane so easily. OTOH, with riding in sandy soil and swapping between 44 and 27 mm wide rims, the disk system makes up for its defects, at least for my taste. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Latest Riv-ish Lytro Pictures
I'd totally missed this Lytro camera-thing... that's cool! Refocusing pictures after-the-fact! Interesting!!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ikEpl4KrHs0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lytro Camera Meets Riv-ish Bike
It just occurred to me what this was reminding me of!!! Remember when Deckard was looking through Leon's photographs, and was having the computer pan around and refocus on different parts of the picture?? I'm just flummoxed that I'd missed this camera's existence! -L -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7hXOhmDwT5QJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lytro Camera Meets Riv-ish Bike
On Sat, 2012-03-10 at 15:08 -0800, Leslie wrote: It just occurred to me what this was reminding me of!!! Remember when Deckard was looking through Leon's photographs, and was having the computer pan around and refocus on different parts of the picture?? I'm just flummoxed that I'd missed this camera's existence! DP Review looked at it last month: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/lytro/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Wide, fat, heavy and slow on the hills!
Hmmm, It's all kind of relative to ones weight and the load carried. I'm riding the 700x47 Schwalbes now at around 60 psi probably only 50 psi today and I currently weigh 257. When I get to hills I gear downflats find me in the 44x18 or 44x16.not sure what that is right now. Not sure of my speed either. I took my speedo off a couple years ago. I do use a wrist watch and I seem to get where I want to in about the same amount of time. In the spring and summer I run 700x40 Supremes and they feel a little faster on the hills. I find I can use a cog higher gear with them. My Simple One sports lighter rims and T- Serve 700x35's and its definitely easier to pedal up hills until I run out of gearing (51 and 66) I sure do feel (my) added weight when I approach hills but I don't worry about wheel weight that much. I end up breaking lightweight rims and popping skinny tires plus my bike takes a beating if I ride them too much. For me there is a certain confidence that I get when using parts that are a little overbuilt. Go wide with pride ! Oh yea ! I always wanted a bike with disc brakes living in rainy Washington State but I haven't thought of the drawbacks now that you mention bent discs. On Mar 10, 2:48 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I just pushed the Fargo 19 rolling-hilly miles around Rio Rancho, NM with the SnoCat/Big Apple wheelset at about 30/35 -- much higher and the bumps start feeling as if I'm riding 23s at 120 (that is a slight exaggeration, but seriously, I've found that the fatter the tire, the harsher the ride if you overinflate); this after having let the heavyweight wheelset sit for weeks while I rode the Rhyno Lites with the new 330 gram, 35 mm Kojaks. I must say that the combination of 800 gram rims with 800 gram tires (both rim and tire are the Lite versions) and 200 gram tubes makes a, ahem, difference -- a 3 1/2 lb difference between the two wheelsets, I estimate. This wheelset is wonderful on sandy terrain and it rolls very well on the flats, both on pavement and on choppy but firmish dirt, but as soon as you encounter an incline, man do you feel that weight! I emphasize: the Big Apples roll very, very will for such a wide carcass with a protective belt -- I push along on the flats on firm surfaces in a 46/20 for a 67 cruising gear, compared to 70 to 75 for a road bike with nice tires. But again, tilt upward, and wham, gravity intervenes. (Btw, Newton posited gravity as a placeholder for his theory; a mere name to signify that one body moved toward another in proportion to their respective masses; but he said quite explicitly that he had no idea what cause, if anything, was behind this word and, further, he says explicitly in the Principia that action at a distance -- ie, physical action without actual contact of bodies -- was, quite literally, unthinkable.) Whatever gravity may or may not be, those BA and SnoCats sure feel like cold molasses on uphills. Long windup. Those of you who ride 60 mm Big Apples or similar tires: how do you find them on hills? What pressures do you use on pavement, and what is your weight? -- of course, that decides how firm the tire has to be. Would I be better off with lighter and narrower rims (wish I hadn't sold those Salsa P35s!) at the expense of less sidewall support? The new 42 Noodles felt noticeably more natural than the 46s they replaced. More generally, the Fargo is set up very nicely: it feels very natural even though the bar is some 4 to 5 cm higher than on the benchmark Rivs. On pavement I spend most of my time in the hooks, for with the bars this high, even the hoods seem rather tippy unless I bend my elbows, a natural inclination. The BB7s are powerful but lack the nice, smooth and easily modulated control that good cantis have -- by good cantis I mean either old Shimano wide profiles or those IRCs that Riv sells. And you have to keep bending the g-d disks back into plane, at least if, as I do, you very frequently carry the wheels off-bike in the back of your car. I'd prefer a bit more weight and thickness for disks that didn't bend out of plane so easily. OTOH, with riding in sandy soil and swapping between 44 and 27 mm wide rims, the disk system makes up for its defects, at least for my taste. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRWhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Help with Identification
well, I can tell you whose brand the Saddlesack is. On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Appears to be a custom. I don't recognize the headbadge. On Saturday, March 10, 2012 12:58:30 AM UTC-6, Andy Williams wrote: Saw this in Philadelphia, and wonder if anyone recognizes the brand? http://www.flickr.com/photos/**awilliams53/6968566771/http://www.flickr.com/photos/awilliams53/6968566771/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/**awilliams53/6968566935/http://www.flickr.com/photos/awilliams53/6968566935/ Andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/fcpsRIKjP1AJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Black Rose Bags Saddle Roll
The saddle roll I ordered on Etsy came today and is hanging from the back a Brooks B17 as we speak. (Well, as I type, anyway) Some 1st impressions. High quality materials. heavy waxed canvas main body, lighter sides. Thick good quality leather straps. Way too many heavy brass rivets. Good sewing. Good quality buckles. Nice blinky strap. Very reasonable price for the materials, workmanship and appearance. The straps are almost too thick to get through the Brooks saddle loops. They are too thick to use on other saddles with smaller loops. The bag opens to impressive size, but the straps are too short to make use of that added space. There are all sorts of strap holes you can't get to or use on the back side of the bag You can't easily change straps to a longer length because of the aforementioned rivets. There is a transverse strap intended to go around the seat rails in case there are no bag loops. It should be used even if you have seat loops or the buckle will clatter. Unfortunately it is not long enough to reach around a pair of Brooks B17 seat rails. I have mine tied off to just one rail to prevent buckle clinking. It hangs well and back far enough that banging into the rider's legs is not an issue. We'll see how it does after a couple of rides.. I appreciate the lead on the outfit, who I had not heard of before seeing a post here on the panniers thread. Tailwinds Bruce http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackrosebags/5374248110/in/set-72157625950706227/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne sighting in Clarendon (No. VA.)- whose?
Minh - will do! Keep an eye out for my Bleriot on Clarendon or Wilson Blvds. JoanOn 03/09/12, Minhmgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:No my orange one, but makes me want to ride it into clarendon tomorrow :)I usually ride my bike to Clarendon every weekend, either my Hillborne or my Quickbeam, say hi you see me!On Thursday, March 8, 2012 5:19:06 PM UTC-5, Joan wrote:Uncommon sighting - I don't know why but there aren't that many of us riding around Northern Virginia on Rivendells, though more than I thought showed up a few weeks ago in response to the 'survey' question. This was an orange Hillborne parked outside the new Trader Joe's, using 2 (!) ulocks to hold it to the bike rack. Albatross with cork handles, 700c wheels, mini front rack with basket, Nitto rear rack, Brooks. I too (frequently) use 2 locks on the Bleriot, ulock and cable. It was very windy today - 35 mph gusts, so I had a sllloooww shopping trip.Joan-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/cyZwArpTHBgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lytro Camera Meets Riv-ish Bike
I've gone back and forth on the value of the Lytro, so I'm interested to see more pics. I really want it to be more than a novelty, but I haven't seen that yet. I think we're going to see software upgrades for existing cameras that give 90% of the refocusability at 10x the resolution. Philip On Mar 10, 8:46 am, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Playing around with my new Lytro camera, and took this photo of Patrick's former Motobecane: https://pictures.lytro.com/campyonlyguy/pictures/31110 Enjoy. More photos to come. --Eric campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Lytro Camera Meets Riv-ish Bike
On 3/10/12, David Yu Greenblatt david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote: It would be neat to see photos of interesting bike shops and framebuilder workshops with this camera system -- click to focus and zoom in. +1, for Kraynick's Bikes in PGH PA! =- Joe Bunik now of Walnut Creek, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lytro Camera Meets Riv-ish Bike
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: I've gone back and forth on the value of the Lytro, so I'm interested to see more pics. I really want it to be more than a novelty, but I haven't seen that yet. I think we're going to see software upgrades for existing cameras that give 90% of the refocusability at 10x the resolution. I think you've got it right. The lytro is more or less an infinite-focus polaroid given the size and depth of picture you end up with. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lytro Camera Meets Riv-ish Bike
It may not have the resolution of a standard camera, but it's worth the $$ to me just to have the technology. This is unlike any camera that has even been available to the public since ... well, since the advent of photography. I find that irresistible (and, by the way, I'll be at the local Apple Store next Friday to pick up the new iPad (3) --Eric N On Mar 10, 2012, at 8:31 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: I've gone back and forth on the value of the Lytro, so I'm interested to see more pics. I really want it to be more than a novelty, but I haven't seen that yet. I think we're going to see software upgrades for existing cameras that give 90% of the refocusability at 10x the resolution. I think you've got it right. The lytro is more or less an infinite-focus polaroid given the size and depth of picture you end up with. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lytro Camera Meets Riv-ish Bike
Lyto seems cool, ipad3 not so much. Don't get me wrong my 5 year old loves her ipad2 but it is little more than a toy and seems like just a thing to have because it is out there. A small laptop still gives me much more utility for the same cost and I can upgrade it without facing the apple regime. Might pick up the Lyto camera for my wife, she loves photography. Cool pics. On Mar 10, 2012 11:48 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: It may not have the resolution of a standard camera, but it's worth the $$ to me just to have the technology. This is unlike any camera that has even been available to the public since ... well, since the advent of photography. I find that irresistible (and, by the way, I'll be at the local Apple Store next Friday to pick up the new iPad (3) --Eric N On Mar 10, 2012, at 8:31 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: I've gone back and forth on the value of the Lytro, so I'm interested to see more pics. I really want it to be more than a novelty, but I haven't seen that yet. I think we're going to see software upgrades for existing cameras that give 90% of the refocusability at 10x the resolution. I think you've got it right. The lytro is more or less an infinite-focus polaroid given the size and depth of picture you end up with. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lytro Camera Meets Riv-ish Bike
Just watch out for those C-beams glittering in the dark! On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: It just occurred to me what this was reminding me of!!! Remember when Deckard was looking through Leon's photographs, and was having the computer pan around and refocus on different parts of the picture?? I'm just flummoxed that I'd missed this camera's existence! -L -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7hXOhmDwT5QJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
