[RBW] Re: security

[Surlyprof]

Will, 

Like you, I also only want to ride my Hillborne everywhere I go.  I had 
photographed my serial number and keep it typed into my phone using 
Evernote.  I use a Kryptonite Evolution lock in the standard size (
http://www.kryptonitelock.com/en/products/product-information/current-key/) 
locking the back wheel and then weave a 4' gorilla cable through the frame 
and front wheel.  I carry these in a small saddlesack and do this every 
time (even if it is a pain).  I sometimes remove the front wheel and lock 
it to the back one but some vandals take that as a reason to bash the 
fork.  I do carry a fork protector that bike companies use to protect forks 
in shipping.  Most bike shops have these lying around. 


Additionally, I remove my seat and seatpost (with saddlesack attached) and 
take it into stores with me.  The back of a Brooks is a reasonable handle 
for the whole assembly so it isn't that big of a hassle.  I figure that the 
combination of Brooks, seatpost, saddlesack and everything in it would cost 
me around $500 to replace so that makes it worth the trouble.  I had put a 
bb in the allen head with wax but that can easily be defeated with a 
lighter and had locking seatpost clamp that Riv used to sell on a Surly but 
then found out it could be defeated with a magnet (they also tend to stick).

Document your bike well.  I have close ups of Phil hubs, wheel labels, 
stem, shifters, etc. on my computer (and backed up on an external hard 
drive).  Typing up w word file with a component inventory is good 
documentation.  Record your serial number in something you carry with you 
and photograph it.  +1 on registering it, too.  And, check to see what your 
insurance company covers in case of theft.  You want to make sure they 
cover replacement value.  Depreciated value won't buy you a replacement 
wheelset but replacement value with get you a comparable bike and build.  
I, unfortunately, know this from 2 past experiences.

John

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 6:53:03 AM UTC-7, Will wrote:

> I need some security advice. I have a new-to-me Atlantis. It is an 
> excellent condition. Paint is 9.9/10, build is excellent. It's a real 
> looker. 
>
> My problem is that I no longer want to ride my other bikes. This, I am 
> sure, is a familiar story here. I thought my other Bobish bikes were nice. 
> I monkeyed with them to make them nice, but the Atlantis is simply much, 
> much better.
>
> So what to do?
>
> Riv recommends Pitlocks for the front wheel and seat post in conjunction 
> with an Abus cable. 
>
> What does this list do?
>
> I'm not going to leave the bike outside overnight, or in sketchy 
> situations. I will park at the library, Trader Joe's, the grocery store, 
> etc... mostly public places with sidewalk traffic. 
>
> Advice?
>
> Will
>

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[RBW] Re: How was your weekend ride?

[Surlyprof]

Nice looking rural QB.  I'm visiting in-laws in North Carolina with no bike 
access (and the weather would be great for riding).  This trip definitely 
has me thinking about a Brompton or Bike Friday!  Will try to report first 
trip upon returning.  

I miss my dogs and my Sam!

John

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 8:07:04 PM UTC-7, JohnS wrote:

> Trying to instigate a discussion on everyone's weekend ride. I'll start. 
> My wife and I got out for a short ride of about 7 miles on Saturday
> . It was the first ride of the season for Suzanne so we didn't plan to go 
> to far. The cold stiff wind and and overcast sky didn't help either. We 
> have to start training for the NYC 5 Boro tour on May 3rd. We'll be doing 
> that with your 12 year old son and a friend of ours. My son will be riding 
> our '80's Rodriguez tandem with me. Next year he'll be able to ride on his 
> own.
>
> On Sunday I got out by myself for a 35 mile. The wind wasn't nearly as 
> bad and the sun was shining which helped a lot. I was using the low gear 
> for about 10% of the ride, more than I'll think I'll be using later in the 
> season. It did get me up all but one really tough hill so it definitely is 
> helping. I was pretty tired till I got home. The picture shows my small 
> Sackville sack in the Wald basket. All my gear was in there. The bike is 
> leaning against an old corn crib, shed. You may also notice the shoots near 
> the front wheel, signs of spring. Thank goodness! We're experiencing a 
> prolonged winter here in PA.
>
> How was your ride?
> JohnS
>
>

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[RBW] Re: How was your weekend ride?

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Last week I checked my Strava account and I had ONE ride logged since 
January 1st!!  I weigh 400 lbs and 99% of my rides never leave the 
subdivision.  Yesterday evening was perfect, 75 degrees, sunny and no wind, 
so I got the bike out and went for "starting over" ride.  I ended up riding 
3 miles (one was the goal) and unfortunately, my right side where I had my 
gall bladder removed 3 weeks ago started hurting about half way thru the 
ride.  I really didn't expect that since I've had no symptoms for over a 
week now.  Other than the pain, it was a great ride!  I felt good and never 
left the gear I started in.  



On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 10:07:04 PM UTC-5, JohnS wrote:
>
> Trying to instigate a discussion on everyone's weekend ride. I'll start. 
> My wife and I got out for a short ride of about 7 miles on Saturday
> . It was the first ride of the season for Suzanne so we didn't plan to go 
> to far. The cold stiff wind and and overcast sky didn't help either. We 
> have to start training for the NYC 5 Boro tour on May 3rd. We'll be doing 
> that with your 12 year old son and a friend of ours. My son will be riding 
> our '80's Rodriguez tandem with me. Next year he'll be able to ride on his 
> own.
>
> On Sunday I got out by myself for a 35 mile. The wind wasn't nearly as 
> bad and the sun was shining which helped a lot. I was using the low gear 
> for about 10% of the ride, more than I'll think I'll be using later in the 
> season. It did get me up all but one really tough hill so it definitely is 
> helping. I was pretty tired till I got home. The picture shows my small 
> Sackville sack in the Wald basket. All my gear was in there. The bike is 
> leaning against an old corn crib, shed. You may also notice the shoots near 
> the front wheel, signs of spring. Thank goodness! We're experiencing a 
> prolonged winter here in PA.
>
> How was your ride?
> JohnS
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Repair help needed - Stuck stem expander wedge

[blakcloud]

Like those pesky stuck seat posts, use ammonia in the head tube to loosen 
the corrosion. Let is soak for the night and then use your bag of tricks to 
get it out. If all else fails, I like the drill suggestion the best. 

Good luck and though it seems frustrating now "on this little project", it 
would have most likely reared it's ugly head at some point in the bikes 
life. Maybe it is a good thing you find the problem now instead of later. 


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[RBW] Re: Coffee Outside

[Pondero]

Kellie,

I don't have anything to add to the discussion and recommendations. Besides 
you've already seen my blog enough to know that most of my rides include 
coffee outside somewhere along the way.  However, since you didn't get a 
lot of photos from the gang, here's a recent one...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/28889177@N06/16958383872/

Occasionally, my coffee kit includes a hammock.

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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[RBW] Re: How was your weekend ride?

[Mark Wilkins]

I was able to get out for about an hour yesterday, and the weather was 
great (mid-40s, sunny). I took the time to ride through some of the 
neighboring towns, searching for my blue Ram that was stolen back in 
December.  There's the faintest glimmer of hope that I might just come 
across it...someday.  Until then, I'm happy on my replacement orange Ram.

The best part of yesterday's ride, though, was that it was the first time 
I've ever ridden my Rambouillet with tires larger than 28s.

When I bought my blue Ram in 2005, it was set up with Ruffy-Tuffys.  I 
liked the ride, never had problems, so I just kept replacing them when they 
wore out.  Along the way, I had purchased some white Paselas ('cuz they 
looked nice), but was never happy with the way they felt.

My replacement-Ram came with Conti Gatorskins (28), which seemed nice 
enough.  I gave the white Paselas another try (Cream-sicle Ram!), but was 
still disappointed.  Someone on the list was selling some used Jack Brown 
(greens) a little while ago, so I picked them up.  I finally got around to 
putting them on this weekend, and out I went Sunday afternoon.  Wow!  I 
don't know what I was expecting, but the ride was both comfortable and 
quick.  Now, If I could just get them to fit under those VO 45mm fenders I 
have in the garage...

Mark 

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Re: [RBW] Reasonably priced rust-resistant chain?

[Tim Gavin]

I recently bought some dynamos and lights from a German bike web site, and
they have Connex chains for decent prices (10SX for $30
).
 $23 flat shipping to the US, so I stocked up on a lot of stuff at once.

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[RBW] Re: How was your weekend ride?

[Deacon Patrick]

I had a hard brain weekend, but managed to get out with the family on 
Saturday for an 8 mile jaunt. One thing that's struck us all is how much 
easier cycling is now that we "take the lane" on roads with less than a 3' 
shoulder. Cars have become a non-factor now we aren't hugging the line. 
Much more relaxing. No clenching up wondering if/how far the upcoming car 
will move over of if they will see we're on the right and stupidly not move 
over at all. So much better!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/16957326975/

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Coffee Outside

[Kellie]

Knew I could count on *you* for a picture! (-:

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 5:50:43 AM UTC-7, Pondero wrote:
>
> Kellie,
>
> I don't have anything to add to the discussion and recommendations. 
> Besides you've already seen my blog enough to know that most of my rides 
> include coffee outside somewhere along the way.  However, since you didn't 
> get a lot of photos from the gang, here's a recent one...
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/28889177@N06/16958383872/
>
> Occasionally, my coffee kit includes a hammock.
>
> Chris Johnson
> Sanger, Texas
>

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Re: [RBW] How was your weekend ride?

[Patrick Moore]

Aside: while working on Sat, visited by a roadie on a carbon fiber
Cannondale, usual kit, bar 3" below saddle (he'd raised it); man shuffled
in to shoot the breeze.

*The roadie is 83 years old* His age alone makes him
"bobbish/Rivendellish", bike and kit be damned.

A youngster came by just before closing to pick up his ... *Original
condition, original owner, 1959 Bianchi, toute beausage, cottered cranks,
47/50 X 14-24, Grand Sport derailleurs,* bought by owner during a cycling
trip to Italy in 1961 or so. He had another one, 1961, with cotterless
cranks and original edition Record and Cycle Art paint, in his car. He's
going to ride Eroica on the '59. Bike was shod with Velocity V rims and 23
mm Paselas; I tried to argue that he install something like Parigi Roubaix
-- bike can clear 35s at least -- but he stubbornly said they were too wide
to look "authentic" -- my  brother had brought the P-R wheelset to Stevie's
to borrow the lockring tool and chain whip. This young man used to ride
with Jobst Brandt's cycling club.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Just 16.6 miles on Saturday, rt to Stevie's Happy Bikes in Corrales, NM
> where I filled in for Steve who is on vacation. Downhill, with headwind out
> of the eastish on the way in; uphill, stronger headwind out of the west, on
> the way back. Stubbornly refused to put it into the 19; walked the steepest
> parts instead. Glad to get back to a couple of beers, takeout from
> Stevie's, a fringe benefit.
>
> Didn't ride Sunday; felt tired and decided to take a nap instead.
>
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 9:07 PM, JohnS  wrote:
>
>> Trying to instigate a discussion on everyone's weekend ride. I'll start.
>> My wife and I got out for a short ride of about 7 miles on Saturday
>> . It was the first ride of the season for Suzanne so we didn't plan to go
>> to far. The cold stiff wind and and overcast sky didn't help either. We
>> have to start training for the NYC 5 Boro tour on May 3rd. We'll be
>> doing that with your 12 year old son and a friend of ours. My son will be
>> riding our '80's Rodriguez tandem with me. Next year he'll be able to ride
>> on his own.
>>
>> On Sunday I got out by myself for a 35 mile. The wind wasn't nearly as
>> bad and the sun was shining which helped a lot. I was using the low gear
>> for about 10% of the ride, more than I'll think I'll be using later in the
>> season. It did get me up all but one really tough hill so it definitely is
>> helping. I was pretty tired till I got home. The picture shows my small
>> Sackville sack in the Wald basket. All my gear was in there. The bike is
>> leaning against an old corn crib, shed. You may also notice the shoots near
>> the front wheel, signs of spring. Thank goodness! We're experiencing a
>> prolonged winter here in PA.
>>
>> How was your ride?
>> JohnS
>>
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> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a
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>
> *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle
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[RBW] The one(s) that got away (or, that Atlantis in Cincinnati)

[Mark Wilkins]

Last week, I asked the group about experiences with purchasing a bike from 
someplace far away, and having someone assist you with inspection, 
shipping, transport, etc.  Thanks again to all who offered their opinions 
and stories.

The reason I was asking about this: I had seen a 58cm Atlantis complete in 
Cincinnati (about 460mi away from me) for what I thought was a pretty good 
price.  My real problem, though, is (and has always been) that I hem and 
haw until the opportunity slips away.  And so, it happened again. 
 Contacted the seller last night to see if he'd ship it, or hold on to it 
until I could get out there, and the bike had been sold on Friday. 
 Still...the CL posting is up...mocking me... 
(http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/bik/4931485051.html)

"You need a good kick in the ass!"  That's what my wife says, anyway :-)

Oh, and if you're the one that bought that bike: Congrats!  And...if you 
have second thoughts, or it doesn't fit quite right, don't hesitate to drop 
me a note ;-)

Mark

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Re: [RBW] Re: Got my new Cheviot

[Kellie]

 Is there a bike shop in the area that would likely stock any of the tires 
I would consider? 
Lots of bike shops but I don't know who'd have Hetres. Wheels of Justice on 
Solano, Mikes Bikes, Missing Link, Blue Heron; these are all in Berkeley. 
Many love the Hetres…..

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:53:22 PM UTC-7, KC wrote:
>
> I like the concept of the 42's.  My limited research (that is googling) 
> led me to believe the Hetres would be a good choice.  While they are more 
> expensive, it is important to keep in mind I just "justified"  a Rivendell 
> (even though not the most expensive choice, it was a lot more than I ever 
> thought I'd spend for a bike).  I'm old enough that I get to say, quite 
> frequently it seems, "I only have so many years left..."  Works out pretty 
> good, especially when added to the fact that I'm sorta on vacation right 
> now and in my family, when you go on vacation, you get to justify a lot.  
> So I want to make sure I am getting to know the Cheviot under good 
> conditions.  
>
> If no one has a reason I shouldn't give the Hetres a try, that is what I 
> will probably do (and be sure to take along something to fix a tire with).  
> I am interested in hearing if anyone thinks that is a bad choice. I don't 
> mind spending the money on them, just don't want to do it over and over, 
> since I only have one bike to use the tires on. 
>
>
> 
>
>
> I don't go out of my way to ride gravel, but I seem to end up on at least 
> some gravel everywhere I go.  But only "some".  Like today, we headed off 
> to take the Joe Rodota trail from Santa Rosa to Sebastapol and somehow made 
> a wrong turn right away and ended up on a different trail that turned out 
> to be wonderful (photo above) and we thought a much nicer ride than the Joe 
> Rodota trail (which we managed to take for the return trip).  And since we 
> didn't know we were on the wrong trail, when we got to the end of trail 
> sign we kept going because there was still a trail and we obviously weren't 
> where we were headed yet.  And at that point, the trail because a pretty 
> gravel-heavy trail.  We finally got to downtown Sebastapol and even met up 
> with someone on the way that did it on purpose.  Chuck and I both agreed it 
> was a great day and very fortunate we took the wrong trail.  So I want to 
> be able to ride easily and deal with whatever comes up (without getting off 
> to walk too often).  And no sense in me having bullet-proof tires is the 
> others in my group don't.
>
> DougP - I appreciate your input, just figured I'd better defend my son 
> quickly before he saw the post! I really appreciate all his input (and will 
> review the tire decision with him before doing anything).  The pannier on 
> my bike was my birthday gift from his family and I'm loving it.
>
> Kellie - I will be back in your area tomorrow morning for a few hours.  Is 
> there a bike shop in the area that would likely stock any of the tires I 
> would consider?  I'm getting such a great opportunity to ride different 
> places while we're here that I'd love to make the swap sooner rather than 
> later to maximize my fun.  
>
>
> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 4:47:33 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Kellie: the magic ingredient that allows one much of the best worlds of 
>> light, supple tires and freedom from punctures is Stan's or (I hear it's 
>> even better) Orange Seal. Stan's has let me use otherwise hopelessly 
>> puncture prone Schwalbe Furious Freds and Challenge Parigi Roubaix in 
>> goathead land where I'd get a thorn flat literally every couple of miles.
>>
>> I'm with you; I can't stand stiff, sluggish tires; I'd rather fix flats. 
>> But modern sealants have squared the otherwise impossible circle.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Kellie  wrote:
>>
>>> Tires do change easily but they can also be an expensive experiment. I'd 
>>> give the Tour Rides a little more time and get really familiar with your 
>>> Cheviot. I also had the Tour Rides on my Hillborne. I didn't like them; 
>>> they felt "stiff." That's when I switched to the GB Cypress, which are 
>>> supple and buttery smooth. Some complain of flats with them but I haven't 
>>> had a one for over a year. Even rode a 50 mile day on some light gravel 
>>> with them. They're now planned to reside on my new to me Saluki I'm 
>>> building. The Cypress' also started on my Cheviot, but then I wanted more 
>>> tread and thicker tires for grip/comfort on the dirt trails.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 2:46:57 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Tires change easily. Try the tires you want to try and see if you get 
 faster and/or have more flats.

 With abandon,
 Patrick 

 On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 3:25:00 PM UTC-6, KC wrote:
>
> My son is a member of this group, rides several rivs and is the reason

Re: [RBW] How was your weekend ride?

[Mark Reimer]

I'm not able to ride for a while after a minor surgery, so instead I picked 
up some new parts for the Atlantis and did some maintenance. It was as 
close as I could get to a ride!




On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 9:16:19 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Aside: while working on Sat, visited by a roadie on a carbon fiber 
> Cannondale, usual kit, bar 3" below saddle (he'd raised it); man shuffled 
> in to shoot the breeze. 
>
> *The roadie is 83 years old* His age alone makes him 
> "bobbish/Rivendellish", bike and kit be damned.
>
> A youngster came by just before closing to pick up his ... *Original 
> condition, original owner, 1959 Bianchi, toute beausage, cottered cranks, 
> 47/50 X 14-24, Grand Sport derailleurs,* bought by owner during a cycling 
> trip to Italy in 1961 or so. He had another one, 1961, with cotterless 
> cranks and original edition Record and Cycle Art paint, in his car. He's 
> going to ride Eroica on the '59. Bike was shod with Velocity V rims and 23 
> mm Paselas; I tried to argue that he install something like Parigi Roubaix 
> -- bike can clear 35s at least -- but he stubbornly said they were too wide 
> to look "authentic" -- my  brother had brought the P-R wheelset to Stevie's 
> to borrow the lockring tool and chain whip. This young man used to ride 
> with Jobst Brandt's cycling club.
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Patrick Moore  > wrote:
>
>> Just 16.6 miles on Saturday, rt to Stevie's Happy Bikes in Corrales, NM 
>> where I filled in for Steve who is on vacation. Downhill, with headwind out 
>> of the eastish on the way in; uphill, stronger headwind out of the west, on 
>> the way back. Stubbornly refused to put it into the 19; walked the steepest 
>> parts instead. Glad to get back to a couple of beers, takeout from 
>> Stevie's, a fringe benefit.
>>
>> Didn't ride Sunday; felt tired and decided to take a nap instead.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 9:07 PM, JohnS > 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Trying to instigate a discussion on everyone's weekend ride. I'll start. 
>>> My wife and I got out for a short ride of about 7 miles on Saturday
>>> . It was the first ride of the season for Suzanne so we didn't plan to 
>>> go to far. The cold stiff wind and and overcast sky didn't help either. We 
>>> have to start training for the NYC 5 Boro tour on May 3rd. We'll be 
>>> doing that with your 12 year old son and a friend of ours. My son will be 
>>> riding our '80's Rodriguez tandem with me. Next year he'll be able to ride 
>>> on his own.
>>>
>>> On Sunday I got out by myself for a 35 mile. The wind wasn't nearly as 
>>> bad and the sun was shining which helped a lot. I was using the low gear 
>>> for about 10% of the ride, more than I'll think I'll be using later in the 
>>> season. It did get me up all but one really tough hill so it definitely is 
>>> helping. I was pretty tired till I got home. The picture shows my small 
>>> Sackville sack in the Wald basket. All my gear was in there. The bike is 
>>> leaning against an old corn crib, shed. You may also notice the shoots near 
>>> the front wheel, signs of spring. Thank goodness! We're experiencing a 
>>> prolonged winter here in PA.
>>>
>>> How was your ride?
>>> JohnS
>>>
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[RBW] Re: How was your weekend ride?

[Ron Mc]

We had a great time.  After the tubie blowout that blew last weekend's 
attempted maiden ride on my new bike, had a very nice most-of-20-mile 
maiden ride yesterday.  (Biketiresdirect was great on handling the warranty 
for me, and I also purchased a spare, but remembered what a chore it is to 
strip glue from a tubie rim). 
We were going to head out to *Sí*clovia in downtown SA, but the spring ride 
is on streets that are awfully narrow, and 150,000 were expected. It's 
really not a ride, it's a parade, and baby carriages on the double yellow 
line, dogs on long leashes, and really wide shuffling families make it 
frustrating. 



my daughter was the least excited (understatement) and she suggested to my 
buddy's daughter and friends that we ride some place. 
Great idea. 
So we rode the 18-mi (round) lower Salado Creek trail, which is all 
macadam, mostly enclosed in cypress trees, and a great ride. 


  

that's my daughter in the wrestling shirt - she's tough. My buddy Stevo - 
we've been bicycling since 6th grade. 
anyway, the new bike was delightful. Fast cozy. No blow-outs. As always, my 
daughter set the lead pace, and sprinted the last 5 miles, though I was 
right with her. 
Found all my sweet spots and was able to ride with relaxed grip and, best 
of all, relaxed shoulders.   


 


I think Steve was a little disappointed we didn't go to *Sí*clovia. He 
wanted to show off his new creation on an 80s Schwinn frame. VO Gran Cru 
components, my old 36mm Honjo fenders, and a Sram 2-speed auto hub - it 
works great. 50-inch and 72-inch gears. Automatically shifts (either way) 
about 10 mph. (and front dyno waiting on Peter White to deliver the lights)

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[RBW] Re: The one(s) that got away (or, that Atlantis in Cincinnati)

[Bill Lindsay]

You didn't want that one, anyway.  It didn't have a kickstand plate!  ;-)

It's like baseball.  When you are at-bat, be patiently aggressive.  Wait 
for a pitch to hit, but when your pitch comes, get all over it.  My 58 
Atlantis appeared before I was truly ready for it, but it was exactly what 
I wanted and local, at the right price, so I jumped, and got it.  Mine 
doesn't have a kickstand plate either,  :-(

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 7:21:12 AM UTC-7, Mark Wilkins wrote:
>
> Last week, I asked the group about experiences with purchasing a bike from 
> someplace far away, and having someone assist you with inspection, 
> shipping, transport, etc.  Thanks again to all who offered their opinions 
> and stories.
>
> The reason I was asking about this: I had seen a 58cm Atlantis complete in 
> Cincinnati (about 460mi away from me) for what I thought was a pretty good 
> price.  My real problem, though, is (and has always been) that I hem and 
> haw until the opportunity slips away.  And so, it happened again. 
>  Contacted the seller last night to see if he'd ship it, or hold on to it 
> until I could get out there, and the bike had been sold on Friday. 
>  Still...the CL posting is up...mocking me... (
> http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/bik/4931485051.html)
>
> "You need a good kick in the ass!"  That's what my wife says, anyway :-)
>
> Oh, and if you're the one that bought that bike: Congrats!  And...if you 
> have second thoughts, or it doesn't fit quite right, don't hesitate to drop 
> me a note ;-)
>
> Mark
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[RBW] Re: How was your weekend ride?

[Bill Lindsay]

Atlantis + Rock and Roads + Fenders = APPROVE

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 6:17:17 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Marco wrote:
>
> Did a 37 mile shake down of my new to me Atlantis. The ride was great 
> except for the temperature...  with the wind chill it was 5*F. Come on 
> spring!
>
> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 11:07:04 PM UTC-4, JohnS wrote:
>>
>> Trying to instigate a discussion on everyone's weekend ride. I'll start. 
>> My wife and I got out for a short ride of about 7 miles on Saturday
>> . It was the first ride of the season for Suzanne so we didn't plan to go 
>> to far. The cold stiff wind and and overcast sky didn't help either. We 
>> have to start training for the NYC 5 Boro tour on May 3rd. We'll be 
>> doing that with your 12 year old son and a friend of ours. My son will be 
>> riding our '80's Rodriguez tandem with me. Next year he'll be able to ride 
>> on his own.
>>
>> On Sunday I got out by myself for a 35 mile. The wind wasn't nearly as 
>> bad and the sun was shining which helped a lot. I was using the low gear 
>> for about 10% of the ride, more than I'll think I'll be using later in the 
>> season. It did get me up all but one really tough hill so it definitely is 
>> helping. I was pretty tired till I got home. The picture shows my small 
>> Sackville sack in the Wald basket. All my gear was in there. The bike is 
>> leaning against an old corn crib, shed. You may also notice the shoots near 
>> the front wheel, signs of spring. Thank goodness! We're experiencing a 
>> prolonged winter here in PA.
>>
>> How was your ride?
>> JohnS
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Coffee Outside

[Bill Lindsay]

Chris

Those stem shifters still working out for you?  They look the business.  

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 5:50:43 AM UTC-7, Pondero wrote:
>
> Kellie,
>
> I don't have anything to add to the discussion and recommendations. 
> Besides you've already seen my blog enough to know that most of my rides 
> include coffee outside somewhere along the way.  However, since you didn't 
> get a lot of photos from the gang, here's a recent one...
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/28889177@N06/16958383872/
>
> Occasionally, my coffee kit includes a hammock.
>
> Chris Johnson
> Sanger, Texas
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[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:

[BykMor]

I'm just thankful that we still have options! I'm resigned to the fact that 
the "industry" will make choices I don't agree with. When you can, vote by 
buying threaded forks, friction shifters, 7sp freewheels and steel. Wait... 
I just remembered I'm talking with the Riv Owners Bunch. Ha!

That being said, to me the biggest benefit to quill stem set-ups these days 
is aesthetics. When building bikes for the floor, we usually add an inch or 
two of spacers to the rise that Surly (pretty much the only place this 
applies) provides. No set formula. This gives you enough adjustment to 
cover probably 95% of customers. Education on how the stem works is part of 
the sales process. Seeing "overly tall" steerer tubes isn't what scares 
people out of our quirky shop ;-)

BykMor

On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 11:38:07 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:
>
> How do you determine where to cut the steerer tubes on your threadless 
> floor model road bikes when assembling? 
>
> Is there a standard human bar height that works for everyone shops go by? 
> Do you cut them higher for LHTruckers and other touring models? 
>
> My local shops cut low but sometimes they do some a little higher than 
> usual. Was wondering. With RBW bikes, we have slot of options with quill 
> stems. 
>

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Re: [RBW] How was your weekend ride?

[Eric Norris]

Took my new-to-me Alex Singer out for a 400K brevet (248 miles to us U.S. 
folks) from the Golden Gate Bridge north to Hopland and back. A gorgeous day 
for a ride! With apologies to those still freezing their wingnuts off back 
east, we had temperatures into the upper 70s.

I took mostly videos on the ride (movie coming soon), but here are a few photos:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157651236622879/ 
 

Brevet season is in full swing; my next “big” ride is the final, 600K brevet in 
early May.

--Eric Norris
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> On Mar 29, 2015, at 8:07 PM, JohnS  wrote:
> 
> Trying to instigate a discussion on everyone's weekend ride. I'll start. My 
> wife and I got out for a short ride of about 7 miles on Saturday. It was the 
> first ride of the season for Suzanne so we didn't plan to go to far. The cold 
> stiff wind and and overcast sky didn't help either. We have to start training 
> for the NYC 5 Boro tour on May 3rd. We'll be doing that with your 12 year old 
> son and a friend of ours. My son will be riding our '80's Rodriguez tandem 
> with me. Next year he'll be able to ride on his own.
> 
> On Sunday I got out by myself for a 35 mile. The wind wasn't nearly as bad 
> and the sun was shining which helped a lot. I was using the low gear for 
> about 10% of the ride, more than I'll think I'll be using later in the 
> season. It did get me up all but one really tough hill so it definitely is 
> helping. I was pretty tired till I got home. The picture shows my small 
> Sackville sack in the Wald basket. All my gear was in there. The bike is 
> leaning against an old corn crib, shed. You may also notice the shoots near 
> the front wheel, signs of spring. Thank goodness! We're experiencing a 
> prolonged winter here in PA.
> 
> How was your ride?
> JohnS
> 
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Re: [RBW] How was your weekend ride?

[Patrick Moore]

As usual, move the decimal point one place to the right for Eric's rides.

How do you find the low trail handling compared to your other bikes?

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Eric Norris  wrote:

> Took my new-to-me Alex Singer out for a 400K brevet (248 miles to us U.S.
> folks) from the Golden Gate Bridge north to Hopland and back. A gorgeous
> day for a ride! With apologies to those still freezing their wingnuts off
> back east, we had temperatures into the upper 70s.
>
> I took mostly videos on the ride (movie coming soon), but here are a few
> photos:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157651236622879/
>
> Brevet season is in full swing; my next “big” ride is the final, 600K
> brevet in early May.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyonly...@me.com
> www.campyonly.com
> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
>
> On Mar 29, 2015, at 8:07 PM, JohnS  wrote:
>
> Trying to instigate a discussion on everyone's weekend ride. I'll start.
> My wife and I got out for a short ride of about 7 miles on Saturday
> . It was the first ride of the season for Suzanne so we didn't plan to go
> to far. The cold stiff wind and and overcast sky didn't help either. We
> have to start training for the NYC 5 Boro tour on May 3rd. We'll be doing
> that with your 12 year old son and a friend of ours. My son will be riding
> our '80's Rodriguez tandem with me. Next year he'll be able to ride on his
> own.
>
> On Sunday I got out by myself for a 35 mile. The wind wasn't nearly as
> bad and the sun was shining which helped a lot. I was using the low gear
> for about 10% of the ride, more than I'll think I'll be using later in the
> season. It did get me up all but one really tough hill so it definitely is
> helping. I was pretty tired till I got home. The picture shows my small
> Sackville sack in the Wald basket. All my gear was in there. The bike is
> leaning against an old corn crib, shed. You may also notice the shoots near
> the front wheel, signs of spring. Thank goodness! We're experiencing a
> prolonged winter here in PA.
>
> How was your ride?
> JohnS
>
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[RBW] FT/S: 70mm Technomic Dlx. ("Tallux") stem for 130mm

[Jeremy Till]

I'm interested in trying out a stem on the opposite extreme of the length 
spectrum, so I'm putting my very lightly used 70mm Technomic Deluxe up for 
trade, or possibly sale.  It has a 25.4mm handlebar clamp and is the longer 
225mm quill length, what Riv refers as the "Tallux."  It has been installed 
twice and used for less than 100 miles each time, and it has a couple of 
very minor scratches on the front of the quill.  I would like to trade for 
a similar Tallux in the 130mm length.  I would prefer 25.4mm clamp but 
26.0mm is acceptable, I'll just use a shim with my Albatrosses.  I would 
also take any reasonably interesting quill stem in the 130mm-140mm range 
with a long quill, or would also give you a little bit of cash as well as 
the stem for a pair of Albastaches.

Pictures here:  
https://flic.kr/s/aHsk94UcVt

I'm located in Sacramento, CA and could arrange a local trade here or in 
the SF Bay Area.  I would ship as well.  Will accept offers if you don't 
have a stem to trade.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: The one(s) that got away (or, that Atlantis in Cincinnati)

[Mark Wilkins]

Thanks, Bill. 

Yeah, and I would have missed the mid-fork braze-ons, too. :-)

Mark

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> On Mar 30, 2015, at 10:50, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
> 
> You didn't want that one, anyway.  It didn't have a kickstand plate!  ;-)
> 
> It's like baseball.  When you are at-bat, be patiently aggressive.  Wait for 
> a pitch to hit, but when your pitch comes, get all over it.  My 58 Atlantis 
> appeared before I was truly ready for it, but it was exactly what I wanted 
> and local, at the right price, so I jumped, and got it.  Mine doesn't have a 
> kickstand plate either,  :-(
> 
>> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 7:21:12 AM UTC-7, Mark Wilkins wrote:
>> Last week, I asked the group about experiences with purchasing a bike from 
>> someplace far away, and having someone assist you with inspection, shipping, 
>> transport, etc.  Thanks again to all who offered their opinions and stories.
>> 
>> The reason I was asking about this: I had seen a 58cm Atlantis complete in 
>> Cincinnati (about 460mi away from me) for what I thought was a pretty good 
>> price.  My real problem, though, is (and has always been) that I hem and haw 
>> until the opportunity slips away.  And so, it happened again.  Contacted the 
>> seller last night to see if he'd ship it, or hold on to it until I could get 
>> out there, and the bike had been sold on Friday.  Still...the CL posting is 
>> up...mocking me... (http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/bik/4931485051.html)
>> 
>> "You need a good kick in the ass!"  That's what my wife says, anyway :-)
>> 
>> Oh, and if you're the one that bought that bike: Congrats!  And...if you 
>> have second thoughts, or it doesn't fit quite right, don't hesitate to drop 
>> me a note ;-)
>> 
>> Mark
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Re: [RBW] Cambium vs. Flyer question

[René Sterental]

I found the Cambium to be quite comfortable from the start. That being
said, if I don't use padding, my butt/seat bones still hurt as I'm getting
acclimated to riding again. I have the carved version, haven't tried the
other one. It does flex nicely, but I don't feel it while riding. There's
no bouncing on it while you pedal. I like it a lot.

If you purchase yours from Wallingford Bicycle Parts (wallbike.com), you'll
get a 6 month return trial period, no questions asked.

René

On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 8:32 PM, lungimsam  wrote:

> If you have used both, does the Cambiums flex reduce road shock as nicely
> as the sprung Flyer does? I hate road shock, It hurts my back. Interested
> in Cambium though because of its waterproof-ness.
>
> I asked Brooks if they were going to have a sprung Cambium, and they said
> no because the flex properties on the Cambium do the job well.
> Wondered if you all think so.
> Thanks for any info.
> I like that it is not affected by rain like the leather.
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[RBW] Re: FS: 56 cm Atlantis

[Zach A]

SOLD.

On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 2:25:54 PM UTC-6, Zach A wrote:
>
> Price drop:  $1500 shipped for frame/fork/headset!
>
> On Sunday, March 15, 2015 at 10:23:37 AM UTC-6, Zach A wrote:
>>
>> Now only available as frameset. $1600 shipped.
>>
>> On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 10:01:19 AM UTC-6, Zach A wrote:
>>>
>>> Complete bikes don't seem likely to sell here, so I'm willing to sell 
>>> the frame/fork/headset.  Been riding it around town, but it's still in 
>>> excellent shape.  $1600.
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 2, 2015 at 9:01:12 AM UTC-7, Zach A wrote:

 Hey all,

 Came close to selling this as a brand new frame/fork, then built it up 
 recently when the finances allowed.  Some of you witnessed that waffling. 
  Ironically, the good fortune that allowed me to build and keep it also 
 means I won't have time for expedition touring anytime soon.  I'm becoming 
 interested in other kinds  of 
 bikes 
 
 .

 I'm asking $2800 shipped as pictured in the attachments, and I'm 
 willing to entertain reasonable and/or creative offers.  I'm not 
 interested 
 in parting it out at this point.  There's some really nice stuff on this 
 bike!  Please contact me directly for more photos and build details.  

 I'd like to keep the bottles, cages and saddle...  and maybe pedals. 
  I've also got racks (Nitto 34F, 33R, and R-14) I'm willing to sell with 
 the bike.  Won't sell the racks separately until the bike goes.  

 Thanks,

 Zach

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[RBW] Re: Cambium vs. Flyer question

[Arthur Mayfield]

I haven't riden a Flyer, but have a B-67 (sprung), B-68 (same wide saddle 
unsprung), B-17, C-17, and C-17 carved, so I may be able to offer 
something... The coil springs on the Flyer/B-67 are at the rear, so they 
compress only when you are sitting back on the saddle, and they are pretty 
stiff.  I've heard some say that they don't respond at all if you weigh 
less than 180 lbs/82kg, but I think that must come from those who ride with 
little of their weight on their sit bones.  In a more typical "road" 
position, the Cambium, and especially the Cambium carved, will be as 
flexible or more so than the Flyer ridden the same way.  So you really have 
to analyze the way you ride to choose the best saddle for you, and try them 
out if you can.  That said, wider tires with lower pressure will do more to 
absorb road shock than any saddle.  I used to have my B-67 on a Bianchi 
Milano with 26x1.5 tires.  Now the B-67 hangs on the wall and my Bianchi 
rides much better with a B-68 and 26x1.9 tires at 45psi.  On my Sam, I ride 
a C-17 carved and 650bx38mm tires at 55psi.  If Brooks would come out with 
a wider Cambium, I'd replace the B-68 on my Bianchi—I like the Cambium that 
much!

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 11:32:58 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote:
>
> If you have used both, does the Cambiums flex reduce road shock as nicely 
> as the sprung Flyer does? I hate road shock, It hurts my back. Interested 
> in Cambium though because of its waterproof-ness.
>
> I asked Brooks if they were going to have a sprung Cambium, and they said 
> no because the flex properties on the Cambium do the job well.
> Wondered if you all think so.
> Thanks for any info.
> I like that it is not affected by rain like the leather.
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[RBW] Re: Simplifying the Simpleone

[twin]

My Handsome Devil is a single speed and its great for riding to school to teach 
or further. I wrote the folks at Handsome Bicycles and they thought it couldn't 
be made into a 650 b. I am having a 650 b frame made by the local frame builder 
and will move my components from my Rawland. It will be somewhat like my 
Bleriot when I had it.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Coffee Outside

[Braxton Colagross]

Aeropress recommends using one full scoop of coffee and filling about 
halfway for brewing. They claim that filling the press with water 
overextracts. Simply dilute to taste after brewing the recommended way. Try 
both and see if one tastes better to you. 

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 9:12:51 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
>
> Aeropress users: I have an aeropress, but when I use it according to 
> the directions, the coffee is way strong, much stronger than the 
> coffee I made with my Melitta filter. Is that just the way the coffee 
> is supposed to be, or should I use half the ground coffee they say? 
> The aeropress is a fussy procedure for coffee that is stronger than I 
> want. 
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 7:42 AM, 'Hudson Doerge' via RBW Owners Bunch 
> > wrote: 
> > My setup: aeropress, porlex mini mill, snow peak giga power auto, ti 
> pot, double wall ti mug, ti spork, bandana to clean things, and a sea to 
> summit packing cell everything tucks into perfectly. 
> > 
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[RBW] Re: Reasonably priced rust-resistant chain?

[Jim Bronson]

The 10SX is stainless?

There is a German site that has the 80 lux Premium Cyo without Licht24 for
$49, they have €19 shipping, I was thinking of getting several of the
lights, maybe I'll check their chain inventory as well, since I would
already be paying shipping on the lights.

Http://www.bike-discount.de I think it was.

Good idea, thanks.

On Monday, March 30, 2015, Tim Gavin  wrote:

> I recently bought some dynamos and lights from a German bike web site, and
> they have Connex chains for decent prices (10SX for $30
> ).
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[RBW] Re: Thin Tires on a Hunqapillar

[Kevin Lindsey]

All -
Many thanks for the excellent input.  After some deliberation, I decided to 
mount the Schwalbe 55 cms for the initial build.  I figured that a Hunq 
running something narrower would sort of duplicate what I have with my 
Bleriot, plus I like the looks of a Hunq with big tires.  If it doesn't 
work out, I can always pull 'em and put the thinner stuff on. 
All the best,
Kevin

On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 2:25:56 AM UTC-4, Kevin Lindsey wrote:
>
> I read a piece on the Internet a couple of days ago in which the author 
> swapped the 50-something tires on his Hunq for 38s or 40s.  He wasn't into 
> single-tracking and was trying to make the bike into a better (read faster) 
> commuter.  Has anyone in the Group tried the thin tire route on a Hunq and, 
> if so, what were your impressions?
> All the best,
> Kevin
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Re: [RBW] Re: The one(s) that got away (or, that Atlantis in Cincinnati)

[EGNolan]

Well, a friend o' mine & a sometimes member of this list, I believe got 
this 58, so I'm sorry it wasn't you, but it should pair nicely w/ his AHH.
 
Best,
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[RBW] Re: How was your weekend ride?

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Deadlines met and projects completed, the weekend beckoned gloriously. 
 Headed west, which up here in the SF North Bay means some sort of 
interaction with Pt. Reyes Station.  Sat and enjoyed the comings and goings 
of the weekend crowds in the newly landscaped "commons" on the north end of 
main street.  Garnered more comments than usual about my green/burgundy RBW 
jersey.  Climbed more and went farther than I'd planned, so found a bit 
more marshmallow in the legs than I'd bargained for on the last hill.  But, 
it felt great.  Was surprised to find my 40 mile loop ended up more like 
53.  (Though I was using one of these fancy new bikes which lets the rider 
stop pedaling now and again.) Here's to the enthusiasm of spring!

Some photos start here 
- https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/16774789649/

- Jim / cyclofiend.com

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Re: [RBW] How was your weekend ride?

[KC]

Great a idea for a thread to share the joy.
On Saturday we rode our bikes from the KOA park in Petaluma to downtown 
(apparently 3.9 miles) and then found our way to the Petaluma Marsh Trail 
(I think Shollenberger Park, about 2.2 miles) for a nice chance to watch 
kayakers on the river and beautiful birds.  Then back to Petaluma for great 
Thai lunch and then back to KOA.  A "full" day by the time we got done.

On Sunday, we drove to Santa Rosa and left the car at Olive Park to ride 
the Joe Rodota trail to Sebastapol (I expected about 4 miles).  We 
immediately took a wrong turn and ended up riding the Prince Memorial 
Greenway Trail.  Rode it a little past the "end trail" sign where it 
became gravel, then dirt, then ? and decided to go back to the trail end 
and check the GPS.  It showed we had ridden about 4 miles and were 4 miles 
from Sebastapol.  VERY happy we took the wrong turn as it ended up being a 
really beautiful ride and gave us the opportunity to compare. So then on to 
Sebastapol to enjoy a nice cup of coffee and make sure we knew how to get 
on the Joe Rodota trail to ride back.  Trail was very nice, but neither of 
us thought nearly as pretty as the Prince Memorial Greenway.  Sure makes 
you want to live in Sebastapol and work in Santa Rosa, or the other way 
around, so you would have to ride that commute every day.  Even better, not 
work and just ride.

Pictures:
Saturday 

Sunday 






On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 7:16:19 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

> Aside: while working on Sat, visited by a roadie on a carbon fiber 
> Cannondale, usual kit, bar 3" below saddle (he'd raised it); man shuffled 
> in to shoot the breeze. 
>
> *The roadie is 83 years old* His age alone makes him 
> "bobbish/Rivendellish", bike and kit be damned.
>
> A youngster came by just before closing to pick up his ... *Original 
> condition, original owner, 1959 Bianchi, toute beausage, cottered cranks, 
> 47/50 X 14-24, Grand Sport derailleurs,* bought by owner during a cycling 
> trip to Italy in 1961 or so. He had another one, 1961, with cotterless 
> cranks and original edition Record and Cycle Art paint, in his car. He's 
> going to ride Eroica on the '59. Bike was shod with Velocity V rims and 23 
> mm Paselas; I tried to argue that he install something like Parigi Roubaix 
> -- bike can clear 35s at least -- but he stubbornly said they were too wide 
> to look "authentic" -- my  brother had brought the P-R wheelset to Stevie's 
> to borrow the lockring tool and chain whip. This young man used to ride 
> with Jobst Brandt's cycling club.
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Patrick Moore  > wrote:
>
>> Just 16.6 miles on Saturday, rt to Stevie's Happy Bikes in Corrales, NM 
>> where I filled in for Steve who is on vacation. Downhill, with headwind out 
>> of the eastish on the way in; uphill, stronger headwind out of the west, on 
>> the way back. Stubbornly refused to put it into the 19; walked the steepest 
>> parts instead. Glad to get back to a couple of beers, takeout from 
>> Stevie's, a fringe benefit.
>>
>> Didn't ride Sunday; felt tired and decided to take a nap instead.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 9:07 PM, JohnS > 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Trying to instigate a discussion on everyone's weekend ride. I'll start. 
>>> My wife and I got out for a short ride of about 7 miles on Saturday
>>> . It was the first ride of the season for Suzanne so we didn't plan to 
>>> go to far. The cold stiff wind and and overcast sky didn't help either. We 
>>> have to start training for the NYC 5 Boro tour on May 3rd. We'll be 
>>> doing that with your 12 year old son and a friend of ours. My son will be 
>>> riding our '80's Rodriguez tandem with me. Next year he'll be able to ride 
>>> on his own.
>>>
>>> On Sunday I got out by myself for a 35 mile. The wind wasn't nearly as 
>>> bad and the sun was shining which helped a lot. I was using the low gear 
>>> for about 10% of the ride, more than I'll think I'll be using later in the 
>>> season. It did get me up all but one really tough hill so it definitely is 
>>> helping. I was pretty tired till I got home. The picture shows my small 
>>> Sackville sack in the Wald basket. All my gear was in there. The bike is 
>>> leaning against an old corn crib, shed. You may also notice the shoots near 
>>> the front wheel, signs of spring. Thank goodness! We're experiencing a 
>>> prolonged winter here in PA.
>>>
>>> How was your ride?
>>> JohnS
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Re: [RBW] Re: The one(s) that got away (or, that Atlantis in Cincinnati)

[Avery Wilson]

Yep, Mike got it. I've seen it and ridden it. It's sweet, but fear not - 
another will surely come up! 

On a side note, being the first Atlantis I've ridden, I was completely 
surprised at how eerily similar to my AHH it is. I mean, I could barely tell 
the difference. It seems like with an Atlantis, you gain tire clearance, which 
is awesome, but give up very little. 

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[RBW] Ride Report - proto Appaloosa

[BenG]

Hi Bunch!  I can report on a recent first ride.  I am 53yrs old, 183#, 
5'11" tall, 89 pbh, so a bit short of average in torso for my pbh.  I 
bought a brown Appaloosa prototype in size 57.5, which was designed 
for 89-ish pbh according to the listing.  I set my Brooks B68 at 
77cm/30.5".  The bike has a bullmoose Bosco bar, equivalent to 12cm stem 
length, which I set at minimum insertion height.

It is a beautiful bike, and the proportions please my eye.  It looks 
exactly right.  30 minutes and 6 miles later, shoulder pain told me I was 
reaching too far to the bars, though.  I didn't realize that the long bike 
would fit long, too.  Since I noticed that Keven runs a dirt drop stem on 
his long bike, I called him about it.  He told me this bike's top tube is 
4cm longer than that of my 60cm Sam.  To get back those 4cm, I ordered an 
8cm stem.  I intend to sell the bullmoose Bosco bar with the Sam 
and move Sam's 55cm Bosco bar to the Appaloosa.  I think fit will be "just 
right" for me.

I wonder now if the Cheviot and the prototype Clems are long in this 
manner.  Another way - how does your stem length compare between these long 
bikes and your other Rivs?

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Re: [RBW] Re: The one(s) that got away (or, that Atlantis in Cincinnati)

[Mark Wilkins]

Haha...no need to feel sorry.  I am truly happy for the person that got it. 
 I definitely had my chance...and let it go.

And I was just thinking how nicely it would have paired with my 
Rambouillet...

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>
> Well, a friend o' mine & a sometimes member of this list, I believe got 
> this 58, so I'm sorry it wasn't you, but it should pair nicely w/ his AHH.
>  
> Best,
> Eric
> Indpls
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Re: [RBW] Re: Got my new Cheviot

[Romel Jacinto]

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 7:25:48 AM UTC-7, Kellie wrote:
>
>  Is there a bike shop in the area that would likely stock any of the tires 
> I would consider? 
> Lots of bike shops but I don't know who'd have Hetres. Wheels of Justice 
> on Solano, Mikes Bikes, Missing Link, Blue Heron; these are all in 
> Berkeley. Many love the Hetres…..
>

Box Dog Bikes in San Francisco indicates on their website that they have 
Hetres in stock. It would probably be a good idea to call to confirm before 
heading there though.
FYI, they're just a couple of blocks away from the 16th street BART station 
if you want to go by public transit.

https://boxdogbikes-3.myshopify.com/collections/components/products/tire-650b-grand-bois-1

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Re: [RBW] Re: Reasonably priced rust-resistant chain?

[Tim Gavin]

The 10SX is mostly stainless, yes.  What isn't stainless is nickel plated.
The SX is their top model in each line.

Unfortunately, they don't currently carry the 9SX (I grabbed a couple 908
nickel plated chains for $15 each).

That site has the best prices on:
B & M lights (I ordered two Luxos U's and two tail lights),
Tubus racks (I got a Logo Evo), and
Shimano parts (I've ordered a 3N80 dynamo, a 26" dynamo/XT wheelset, XT
disc brakes, and cassettes).

The current exchange rate--coupled with their lower prices--means they have
great prices (for now).

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Jim Bronson  wrote:

> The 10SX is stainless?
>
> There is a German site that has the 80 lux Premium Cyo without Licht24 for
> $49, they have €19 shipping, I was thinking of getting several of the
> lights, maybe I'll check their chain inventory as well, since I would
> already be paying shipping on the lights.
>
> Http://www.bike-discount.de I think it was.
>
> Good idea, thanks.
>
> On Monday, March 30, 2015, Tim Gavin 
> wrote:
>
>> I recently bought some dynamos and lights from a German bike web site,
>> and they have Connex chains for decent prices (10SX for $30
>> ).
>>  $23 flat shipping to the US, so I stocked up on a lot of stuff at once.
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Re: [RBW] Ride Report - proto Appaloosa

[Tim Gavin]

No experience with the new long Rivs, but my three main steel bikes each
have different length top tubes, so they use different stems.
Riv Road Standard, 58.5 cm top tube, 90 mm Technomic Deluxe stem
Giordana, 57 cm top tube, 120 mm Technomic stem
KOM, 63 cm top tube!, 8 cm Dirt Drop stem

By no means is the bar reach identical on each setup, but it's within the
ball park and what works for me on each frame.


On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 11:14 AM, BenG  wrote:

> Hi Bunch!  I can report on a recent first ride.  I am 53yrs old, 183#,
> 5'11" tall, 89 pbh, so a bit short of average in torso for my pbh.  I
> bought a brown Appaloosa prototype in size 57.5, which was designed
> for 89-ish pbh according to the listing.  I set my Brooks B68 at
> 77cm/30.5".  The bike has a bullmoose Bosco bar, equivalent to 12cm stem
> length, which I set at minimum insertion height.
>
> It is a beautiful bike, and the proportions please my eye.  It looks
> exactly right.  30 minutes and 6 miles later, shoulder pain told me I was
> reaching too far to the bars, though.  I didn't realize that the long bike
> would fit long, too.  Since I noticed that Keven runs a dirt drop stem on
> his long bike, I called him about it.  He told me this bike's top tube is
> 4cm longer than that of my 60cm Sam.  To get back those 4cm, I ordered an
> 8cm stem.  I intend to sell the bullmoose Bosco bar with the Sam
> and move Sam's 55cm Bosco bar to the Appaloosa.  I think fit will be "just
> right" for me.
>
> I wonder now if the Cheviot and the prototype Clems are long in this
> manner.  Another way - how does your stem length compare between these long
> bikes and your other Rivs?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Got my new Cheviot

[Dan McNamara]

Kellie - I have a slightly used pair that you are welcome to try if you want. I 
bought them from the list to have some backup tires but they might be better 
put to use. 

I work in Emeryville and drive from San Rafael every day so we could arrange 
something. 

Dan

> On Mar 30, 2015, at 7:25 AM, Kellie  wrote:
> 
>  Is there a bike shop in the area that would likely stock any of the tires I 
> would consider? 
> Lots of bike shops but I don't know who'd have Hetres. Wheels of Justice on 
> Solano, Mikes Bikes, Missing Link, Blue Heron; these are all in Berkeley. 
> Many love the Hetres…..
> 
>> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:53:22 PM UTC-7, KC wrote:
>> I like the concept of the 42's.  My limited research (that is googling) led 
>> me to believe the Hetres would be a good choice.  While they are more 
>> expensive, it is important to keep in mind I just "justified"  a Rivendell 
>> (even though not the most expensive choice, it was a lot more than I ever 
>> thought I'd spend for a bike).  I'm old enough that I get to say, quite 
>> frequently it seems, "I only have so many years left..."  Works out pretty 
>> good, especially when added to the fact that I'm sorta on vacation right now 
>> and in my family, when you go on vacation, you get to justify a lot.  So I 
>> want to make sure I am getting to know the Cheviot under good conditions. 
>> 
>> If no one has a reason I shouldn't give the Hetres a try, that is what I 
>> will probably do (and be sure to take along something to fix a tire with).  
>> I am interested in hearing if anyone thinks that is a bad choice. I don't 
>> mind spending the money on them, just don't want to do it over and over, 
>> since I only have one bike to use the tires on.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I don't go out of my way to ride gravel, but I seem to end up on at least 
>> some gravel everywhere I go.  But only "some".  Like today, we headed off to 
>> take the Joe Rodota trail from Santa Rosa to Sebastapol and somehow made a 
>> wrong turn right away and ended up on a different trail that turned out to 
>> be wonderful (photo above) and we thought a much nicer ride than the Joe 
>> Rodota trail (which we managed to take for the return trip).  And since we 
>> didn't know we were on the wrong trail, when we got to the end of trail sign 
>> we kept going because there was still a trail and we obviously weren't where 
>> we were headed yet.  And at that point, the trail because a pretty 
>> gravel-heavy trail.  We finally got to downtown Sebastapol and even met up 
>> with someone on the way that did it on purpose.  Chuck and I both agreed it 
>> was a great day and very fortunate we took the wrong trail.  So I want to be 
>> able to ride easily and deal with whatever comes up (without getting off to 
>> walk too often).  And no sense in me having bullet-proof tires is the others 
>> in my group don't.
>> 
>> DougP - I appreciate your input, just figured I'd better defend my son 
>> quickly before he saw the post! I really appreciate all his input (and will 
>> review the tire decision with him before doing anything).  The pannier on my 
>> bike was my birthday gift from his family and I'm loving it.
>> 
>> Kellie - I will be back in your area tomorrow morning for a few hours.  Is 
>> there a bike shop in the area that would likely stock any of the tires I 
>> would consider?  I'm getting such a great opportunity to ride different 
>> places while we're here that I'd love to make the swap sooner rather than 
>> later to maximize my fun. 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 4:47:33 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>> Kellie: the magic ingredient that allows one much of the best worlds of 
>>> light, supple tires and freedom from punctures is Stan's or (I hear it's 
>>> even better) Orange Seal. Stan's has let me use otherwise hopelessly 
>>> puncture prone Schwalbe Furious Freds and Challenge Parigi Roubaix in 
>>> goathead land where I'd get a thorn flat literally every couple of miles.
>>> 
>>> I'm with you; I can't stand stiff, sluggish tires; I'd rather fix flats. 
>>> But modern sealants have squared the otherwise impossible circle.
>>> 
 On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Kellie  wrote:
 Tires do change easily but they can also be an expensive experiment. I'd 
 give the Tour Rides a little more time and get really familiar with your 
 Cheviot. I also had the Tour Rides on my Hillborne. I didn't like them; 
 they felt "stiff." That's when I switched to the GB Cypress, which are 
 supple and buttery smooth. Some complain of flats with them but I haven't 
 had a one for over a year. Even rode a 50 mile day on some light gravel 
 with them. They're now planned to reside on my new to me Saluki I'm 
 building. The Cypress' also started on my Cheviot, but then I wanted more 
 tread and thicker tires for grip/comfort on the dirt trails.
 
 
> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 2:46:57 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
> Tires change eas

[RBW] Re: Repair help needed - Stuck stem expander wedge

[Bill Lindsay]

Sean

If you don't want to take apart a bunch of stuff going through the 
underside of the crown, then you should fashion your own wedge puller.  

1.  Thread your stem bolt two or three rotations into your stuck wedge.  
2.  Measure the distance from the top of the headset lock nut to the bottom 
edge of the head of your stem bolt. Call that distance X
3.  Find a block of wood that is X thick.  Stack up a couple pieces of wood 
if necessary.  
4.  Drill a hole through your block of wood just big enough that the stem 
bolt can pass through
5.  Put the block on top of your headset lock nut.  
6.  Slide the stem bolt through the hole with a big flat washer to act as a 
bearing surface
7.  Thread the stem bolt into your stuck wedge.  As you tighten the bolt, 
you'll extract your wedge.
8.  If it is stuck all the way up, and you run out of threads on your bolt, 
you might need to stack up more flat washers

Take advantage of the fact that your wedge is already threaded.  That's 
what threads are good for.


 
On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 4:28:28 PM UTC-7, SeanMac wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for your suggestions on how to attack my stuck stem wedge.  The 
> consensus certainly seems to be that I need to attack it from the bottom of 
> the head tube.  That suggestion makes a lot of sense to me.  Unfortunately, 
> it also means that I need to remove the front fender and [most likely] the 
> front brake as well.  It is amazing how what began as a relatively simple, 
> straight-forward project has become much more involved.
>
> My plan is to purchase a Nitto Tallux stem to use on this bike, as I am 
> looking to go both a bit taller and longer than my current stem.  Is it 
> possible [or likely] that the stuck wedge has caused any damage to the head 
> tube that will make this plan not work?  
>
> Anyone have any experience with a threadless stem adaptor, such as this 
> one sold by VO?  VO Threadless Stem Adaptor 
> .
>   
> I have contemplating using one of these and a VO threadless stem on this 
> project, but think that the Tallus will work even better for me.
>
> Again, thanks for your help.
>
> Sean
>

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[RBW] Re: How was your weekend ride?

[DS]

Great idea! And nice QB. 

I almost never do group rides (20+ people), but a fellow RBW-er invited me 
to a Grizzly Peak Cyclists ride in the Oakland/Berkeley/Orinda hills area, 
~35 miles with 2700 feet of climbing. I do these routes and climbs all the 
time by myself, and generally consider myself a slow, meandering cyclists 
that is out for the sake of riding, but something came over me and I sped 
to the front of the pack on my Gunnar Sport (almost took my new Sam) and 
stayed there the whole ride. Felt pretty good. I was 3rd out of 25 people 
or so the whole time. I like that I now know that I can push myself outside 
of my 11-12mph comfort zone into a 14-15 mph one and not feel totally 
ragged after, I still had plenty of energy after. Though maybe the ride up 
Tunnel on my quickbeam 2 days  prior helped warm me up.

Two observations from my weekend ride:
1. I love the Oakland / Berkeley hills. I've lived here 4 years and I still 
can't believe such amazing greenspace and parks that are within urban city 
limits. All my climbing up Tunnel road has definitely made me a stronger 
rider. 
2. After getting to top of the largest and longest climb we stopped for a 
break and a handful of people were looking at my bike (which had grand bois 
cypres 700 x 33 tires) commenting about how they'd love a steel bike with 
28mm tires for a commuter bike, which just seemed weird to me since I was 
on such a bike with even wider tires and it clearly was not a commuter 
bike. Not to mention I had been there waiting for 5 minutes or more before 
that group even showed up. I spend so much time on this thread and with 
other RWB-ers that I forget how much we stand out with our baggy clothes, 
steel bikes, wide tires, racks, and bags. Everyone was really cool about it 
of course, and no ill feelings either way.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Got my new Cheviot

[Kathy Carroll]

Hi Dan, Was that offer meant for me rather than Kellie?  Hetres?

On Mar 30, 2015 9:41 AM, "Dan McNamara"  wrote:
>
> Kellie - I have a slightly used pair that you are welcome to try if you
want. I bought them from the list to have some backup tires but they might
be better put to use.
>
> I work in Emeryville and drive from San Rafael every day so we could
arrange something.
>
> Dan
>
> On Mar 30, 2015, at 7:25 AM, Kellie  wrote:
>
>>  Is there a bike shop in the area that would likely stock any of the
tires I would consider?
>> Lots of bike shops but I don't know who'd have Hetres. Wheels of Justice
on Solano, Mikes Bikes, Missing Link, Blue Heron; these are all in
Berkeley. Many love the Hetres…..
>>
>> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:53:22 PM UTC-7, KC wrote:
>>>
>>> I like the concept of the 42's.  My limited research (that is googling)
led me to believe the Hetres would be a good choice.  While they are more
expensive, it is important to keep in mind I just "justified"  a Rivendell
(even though not the most expensive choice, it was a lot more than I ever
thought I'd spend for a bike).  I'm old enough that I get to say, quite
frequently it seems, "I only have so many years left..."  Works out pretty
good, especially when added to the fact that I'm sorta on vacation right
now and in my family, when you go on vacation, you get to justify a lot.
So I want to make sure I am getting to know the Cheviot under good
conditions.
>>>
>>> If no one has a reason I shouldn't give the Hetres a try, that is what
I will probably do (and be sure to take along something to fix a tire
with).  I am interested in hearing if anyone thinks that is a bad choice. I
don't mind spending the money on them, just don't want to do it over and
over, since I only have one bike to use the tires on.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't go out of my way to ride gravel, but I seem to end up on at
least some gravel everywhere I go.  But only "some".  Like today, we headed
off to take the Joe Rodota trail from Santa Rosa to Sebastapol and somehow
made a wrong turn right away and ended up on a different trail that turned
out to be wonderful (photo above) and we thought a much nicer ride than the
Joe Rodota trail (which we managed to take for the return trip).  And since
we didn't know we were on the wrong trail, when we got to the end of trail
sign we kept going because there was still a trail and we obviously weren't
where we were headed yet.  And at that point, the trail because a pretty
gravel-heavy trail.  We finally got to downtown Sebastapol and even met up
with someone on the way that did it on purpose.  Chuck and I both agreed it
was a great day and very fortunate we took the wrong trail.  So I want to
be able to ride easily and deal with whatever comes up (without getting off
to walk too often).  And no sense in me having bullet-proof tires is the
others in my group don't.
>>>
>>> DougP - I appreciate your input, just figured I'd better defend my son
quickly before he saw the post! I really appreciate all his input (and will
review the tire decision with him before doing anything).  The pannier on
my bike was my birthday gift from his family and I'm loving it.
>>>
>>> Kellie - I will be back in your area tomorrow morning for a few hours.
Is there a bike shop in the area that would likely stock any of the tires I
would consider?  I'm getting such a great opportunity to ride different
places while we're here that I'd love to make the swap sooner rather than
later to maximize my fun.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 4:47:33 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Kellie: the magic ingredient that allows one much of the best worlds
of light, supple tires and freedom from punctures is Stan's or (I hear it's
even better) Orange Seal. Stan's has let me use otherwise hopelessly
puncture prone Schwalbe Furious Freds and Challenge Parigi Roubaix in
goathead land where I'd get a thorn flat literally every couple of miles.

 I'm with you; I can't stand stiff, sluggish tires; I'd rather fix
flats. But modern sealants have squared the otherwise impossible circle.

 On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Kellie  wrote:
>
> Tires do change easily but they can also be an expensive experiment.
I'd give the Tour Rides a little more time and get really familiar with
your Cheviot. I also had the Tour Rides on my Hillborne. I didn't like
them; they felt "stiff." That's when I switched to the GB Cypress, which
are supple and buttery smooth. Some complain of flats with them but I
haven't had a one for over a year. Even rode a 50 mile day on some light
gravel with them. They're now planned to reside on my new to me Saluki I'm
building. The Cypress' also started on my Cheviot, but then I wanted more
tread and thicker tires for grip/comfort on the dirt trails.
>
>
> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 2:46:57 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Tires change easily. Try the tires you want to try and see if you
get faster and/or hav

Re: [RBW] Re: Got my new Cheviot

[Dan McNamara]

Oops. Yes. 



> On Mar 30, 2015, at 9:47 AM, Kathy Carroll  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dan, Was that offer meant for me rather than Kellie?  Hetres?  
> 
> On Mar 30, 2015 9:41 AM, "Dan McNamara"  wrote:
> >
> > Kellie - I have a slightly used pair that you are welcome to try if you 
> > want. I bought them from the list to have some backup tires but they might 
> > be better put to use. 
> >
> > I work in Emeryville and drive from San Rafael every day so we could 
> > arrange something. 
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > On Mar 30, 2015, at 7:25 AM, Kellie  wrote:
> >
> >>  Is there a bike shop in the area that would likely stock any of the tires 
> >> I would consider? 
> >> Lots of bike shops but I don't know who'd have Hetres. Wheels of Justice 
> >> on Solano, Mikes Bikes, Missing Link, Blue Heron; these are all in 
> >> Berkeley. Many love the Hetres…..
> >>
> >> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:53:22 PM UTC-7, KC wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I like the concept of the 42's.  My limited research (that is googling) 
> >>> led me to believe the Hetres would be a good choice.  While they are more 
> >>> expensive, it is important to keep in mind I just "justified"  a 
> >>> Rivendell (even though not the most expensive choice, it was a lot more 
> >>> than I ever thought I'd spend for a bike).  I'm old enough that I get to 
> >>> say, quite frequently it seems, "I only have so many years left..."  
> >>> Works out pretty good, especially when added to the fact that I'm sorta 
> >>> on vacation right now and in my family, when you go on vacation, you get 
> >>> to justify a lot.  So I want to make sure I am getting to know the 
> >>> Cheviot under good conditions. 
> >>>
> >>> If no one has a reason I shouldn't give the Hetres a try, that is what I 
> >>> will probably do (and be sure to take along something to fix a tire 
> >>> with).  I am interested in hearing if anyone thinks that is a bad choice. 
> >>> I don't mind spending the money on them, just don't want to do it over 
> >>> and over, since I only have one bike to use the tires on.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I don't go out of my way to ride gravel, but I seem to end up on at least 
> >>> some gravel everywhere I go.  But only "some".  Like today, we headed off 
> >>> to take the Joe Rodota trail from Santa Rosa to Sebastapol and somehow 
> >>> made a wrong turn right away and ended up on a different trail that 
> >>> turned out to be wonderful (photo above) and we thought a much nicer ride 
> >>> than the Joe Rodota trail (which we managed to take for the return trip). 
> >>>  And since we didn't know we were on the wrong trail, when we got to the 
> >>> end of trail sign we kept going because there was still a trail and we 
> >>> obviously weren't where we were headed yet.  And at that point, the trail 
> >>> because a pretty gravel-heavy trail.  We finally got to downtown 
> >>> Sebastapol and even met up with someone on the way that did it on 
> >>> purpose.  Chuck and I both agreed it was a great day and very fortunate 
> >>> we took the wrong trail.  So I want to be able to ride easily and deal 
> >>> with whatever comes up (without getting off to walk too often).  And no 
> >>> sense in me having bullet-proof tires is the others in my group don't.
> >>>
> >>> DougP - I appreciate your input, just figured I'd better defend my son 
> >>> quickly before he saw the post! I really appreciate all his input (and 
> >>> will review the tire decision with him before doing anything).  The 
> >>> pannier on my bike was my birthday gift from his family and I'm loving it.
> >>>
> >>> Kellie - I will be back in your area tomorrow morning for a few hours.  
> >>> Is there a bike shop in the area that would likely stock any of the tires 
> >>> I would consider?  I'm getting such a great opportunity to ride different 
> >>> places while we're here that I'd love to make the swap sooner rather than 
> >>> later to maximize my fun. 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 4:47:33 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
> 
>  Kellie: the magic ingredient that allows one much of the best worlds of 
>  light, supple tires and freedom from punctures is Stan's or (I hear it's 
>  even better) Orange Seal. Stan's has let me use otherwise hopelessly 
>  puncture prone Schwalbe Furious Freds and Challenge Parigi Roubaix in 
>  goathead land where I'd get a thorn flat literally every couple of miles.
> 
>  I'm with you; I can't stand stiff, sluggish tires; I'd rather fix flats. 
>  But modern sealants have squared the otherwise impossible circle.
> 
>  On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Kellie  wrote:
> >
> > Tires do change easily but they can also be an expensive experiment. 
> > I'd give the Tour Rides a little more time and get really familiar with 
> > your Cheviot. I also had the Tour Rides on my Hillborne. I didn't like 
> > them; they felt "stiff." That's when I switched to the GB Cypress, 
> > which are supple and buttery smooth. Some 

[RBW] Re: Coffee Outside

[Pondero]

Bill,

I'll put it this way, my birthday discount from Riv will be applied to a 
stem shifter pod for my Hilsen.  Seem to be just right for my quirks.  Love 
'em.

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas


On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 9:56:50 AM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Chris
>
> Those stem shifters still working out for you?  They look the business.  
>
> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 5:50:43 AM UTC-7, Pondero wrote:
>>
>> Kellie,
>>
>> I don't have anything to add to the discussion and recommendations. 
>> Besides you've already seen my blog enough to know that most of my rides 
>> include coffee outside somewhere along the way.  However, since you didn't 
>> get a lot of photos from the gang, here's a recent one...
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/28889177@N06/16958383872/
>>
>> Occasionally, my coffee kit includes a hammock.
>>
>> Chris Johnson
>> Sanger, Texas
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Cycling tight and shorts.

[lungimsam]

 Still available:
Aerotech Thermal Windstopper Tights - 60$ Large. Black. Articulated knee. 
No pad. Only ridden once, less than 9 miles. 86% Polyester/14% Spandex.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Got my new Cheviot

[Dave C]

That's sounds like a good offer.

I have never uses the Hetres, but I currently am using the 32 mm GB Cypres, 
and I really do like them a bunch. I have been using them on fire roads in 
my area, and I think they have been very versatile and have a nice ride. 
When my wife's Glorius is in need of new tires, I will get her the Hetres, 
even though the Col de la vies are fine. In fact, I can't say for sure the 
Cypres is any better than a non-TG Pasela, but I think it's good to have 
the options that didn't exist a decade ago.

Does anyone know if the Cypres tires have been empirically compared to the 
Paselas with any conclusive results?

And has the new 650B Pasela been tested by anyone yet (assuming it is out) 
and compared to the Hetres?


On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 9:47:17 AM UTC-7, KC wrote:
>
> Hi Dan, Was that offer meant for me rather than Kellie?  Hetres?  
>
> On Mar 30, 2015 9:41 AM, "Dan McNamara" > 
> wrote:
> >
> > Kellie - I have a slightly used pair that you are welcome to try if you 
> want. I bought them from the list to have some backup tires but they might 
> be better put to use. 
> >
> > I work in Emeryville and drive from San Rafael every day so we could 
> arrange something. 
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > On Mar 30, 2015, at 7:25 AM, Kellie > 
> wrote:
> >
> >>  Is there a bike shop in the area that would likely stock any of the 
> tires I would consider? 
> >> Lots of bike shops but I don't know who'd have Hetres. Wheels of 
> Justice on Solano, Mikes Bikes, Missing Link, Blue Heron; these are all in 
> Berkeley. Many love the Hetres…..
> >>
> >> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:53:22 PM UTC-7, KC wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I like the concept of the 42's.  My limited research (that is 
> googling) led me to believe the Hetres would be a good choice.  While they 
> are more expensive, it is important to keep in mind I just "justified"  a 
> Rivendell (even though not the most expensive choice, it was a lot more 
> than I ever thought I'd spend for a bike).  I'm old enough that I get to 
> say, quite frequently it seems, "I only have so many years left..."  Works 
> out pretty good, especially when added to the fact that I'm sorta on 
> vacation right now and in my family, when you go on vacation, you get to 
> justify a lot.  So I want to make sure I am getting to know the Cheviot 
> under good conditions. 
> >>>
> >>> If no one has a reason I shouldn't give the Hetres a try, that is what 
> I will probably do (and be sure to take along something to fix a tire 
> with).  I am interested in hearing if anyone thinks that is a bad choice. I 
> don't mind spending the money on them, just don't want to do it over and 
> over, since I only have one bike to use the tires on.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I don't go out of my way to ride gravel, but I seem to end up on at 
> least some gravel everywhere I go.  But only "some".  Like today, we headed 
> off to take the Joe Rodota trail from Santa Rosa to Sebastapol and somehow 
> made a wrong turn right away and ended up on a different trail that turned 
> out to be wonderful (photo above) and we thought a much nicer ride than the 
> Joe Rodota trail (which we managed to take for the return trip).  And since 
> we didn't know we were on the wrong trail, when we got to the end of trail 
> sign we kept going because there was still a trail and we obviously weren't 
> where we were headed yet.  And at that point, the trail because a pretty 
> gravel-heavy trail.  We finally got to downtown Sebastapol and even met up 
> with someone on the way that did it on purpose.  Chuck and I both agreed it 
> was a great day and very fortunate we took the wrong trail.  So I want to 
> be able to ride easily and deal with whatever comes up (without getting off 
> to walk too often).  And no sense in me having bullet-proof tires is the 
> others in my group don't.
> >>>
> >>> DougP - I appreciate your input, just figured I'd better defend my son 
> quickly before he saw the post! I really appreciate all his input (and will 
> review the tire decision with him before doing anything).  The pannier on 
> my bike was my birthday gift from his family and I'm loving it.
> >>>
> >>> Kellie - I will be back in your area tomorrow morning for a few 
> hours.  Is there a bike shop in the area that would likely stock any of the 
> tires I would consider?  I'm getting such a great opportunity to ride 
> different places while we're here that I'd love to make the swap sooner 
> rather than later to maximize my fun. 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 4:47:33 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
> 
>  Kellie: the magic ingredient that allows one much of the best worlds 
> of light, supple tires and freedom from punctures is Stan's or (I hear it's 
> even better) Orange Seal. Stan's has let me use otherwise hopelessly 
> puncture prone Schwalbe Furious Freds and Challenge Parigi Roubaix in 
> goathead land where I'd get a thorn flat literally every couple of miles.
> 
>  I'm wi

[RBW] Re: Coffee Outside

[shawn m.]

I also really like the inverted method in terms of the quality. It makes a 
GREAT half-cup of coffee. That's my only beef about the method, really. It 
treads a fine line between too fussy and just fussy enough, which is 
important first thing in the morning. Typically, I just double it: two 
scoops, twice as much much hot water, dilute the product somewhere in the 
2:1 ballpark (slightly less, depending). In my protracted career of coffee 
snobbery my experience has been that quality coffee overcomes uneven 
methods; it's easy to make good coffee with good beans. One of the best 
cups of coffee in my life was cowboy coffee of Tanzania Peaberry near the 
headwaters of the Salmon River in the Sawtooth range of central Idaho 
before riding the Fisher Creek trail. Possibly the best day ever...

If method is your madness, though... I submit the following coffee nerdery 
for your consideration:

http://worldaeropresschampionship.com/recipes/

Shawn
"I'll have another cup of coffee!" - Groucho Marx, Duck Soup

On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 8:41:28 AM UTC-7, Kellie wrote:
>
> I"m gearing up to do this activity on the weekends. I'm wondering what 
> people use for coffee outside, and a list of items one shouldn't leave home 
> without. Add your photos as well. Thanks.
>

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[RBW] Re: Cambium vs. Flyer question

[Matthew J]

 If Brooks would come out with a wider Cambium, I'd replace the B-68 on my 
Bianchi—I like the Cambium that much!

+1.  Very happy with my two Cambiums.  If a wider model were available I 
would have three.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Got my new Cheviot

[Kathy Carroll]

Dan, i sent an email directly to you
Kathy
On Mar 30, 2015 10:32 AM, "Dave C"  wrote:

> That's sounds like a good offer.
>
> I have never uses the Hetres, but I currently am using the 32 mm GB
> Cypres, and I really do like them a bunch. I have been using them on fire
> roads in my area, and I think they have been very versatile and have a nice
> ride. When my wife's Glorius is in need of new tires, I will get her the
> Hetres, even though the Col de la vies are fine. In fact, I can't say for
> sure the Cypres is any better than a non-TG Pasela, but I think it's good
> to have the options that didn't exist a decade ago.
>
> Does anyone know if the Cypres tires have been empirically compared to the
> Paselas with any conclusive results?
>
> And has the new 650B Pasela been tested by anyone yet (assuming it is out)
> and compared to the Hetres?
>
>
> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 9:47:17 AM UTC-7, KC wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dan, Was that offer meant for me rather than Kellie?  Hetres?
>>
>> On Mar 30, 2015 9:41 AM, "Dan McNamara"  wrote:
>> >
>> > Kellie - I have a slightly used pair that you are welcome to try if you
>> want. I bought them from the list to have some backup tires but they might
>> be better put to use.
>> >
>> > I work in Emeryville and drive from San Rafael every day so we could
>> arrange something.
>> >
>> > Dan
>> >
>> > On Mar 30, 2015, at 7:25 AM, Kellie  wrote:
>> >
>> >>  Is there a bike shop in the area that would likely stock any of the
>> tires I would consider?
>> >> Lots of bike shops but I don't know who'd have Hetres. Wheels of
>> Justice on Solano, Mikes Bikes, Missing Link, Blue Heron; these are all in
>> Berkeley. Many love the Hetres…..
>> >>
>> >> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:53:22 PM UTC-7, KC wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I like the concept of the 42's.  My limited research (that is
>> googling) led me to believe the Hetres would be a good choice.  While they
>> are more expensive, it is important to keep in mind I just "justified"  a
>> Rivendell (even though not the most expensive choice, it was a lot more
>> than I ever thought I'd spend for a bike).  I'm old enough that I get to
>> say, quite frequently it seems, "I only have so many years left..."  Works
>> out pretty good, especially when added to the fact that I'm sorta on
>> vacation right now and in my family, when you go on vacation, you get to
>> justify a lot.  So I want to make sure I am getting to know the Cheviot
>> under good conditions.
>> >>>
>> >>> If no one has a reason I shouldn't give the Hetres a try, that is
>> what I will probably do (and be sure to take along something to fix a tire
>> with).  I am interested in hearing if anyone thinks that is a bad choice. I
>> don't mind spending the money on them, just don't want to do it over and
>> over, since I only have one bike to use the tires on.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I don't go out of my way to ride gravel, but I seem to end up on at
>> least some gravel everywhere I go.  But only "some".  Like today, we headed
>> off to take the Joe Rodota trail from Santa Rosa to Sebastapol and somehow
>> made a wrong turn right away and ended up on a different trail that turned
>> out to be wonderful (photo above) and we thought a much nicer ride than the
>> Joe Rodota trail (which we managed to take for the return trip).  And since
>> we didn't know we were on the wrong trail, when we got to the end of trail
>> sign we kept going because there was still a trail and we obviously weren't
>> where we were headed yet.  And at that point, the trail because a pretty
>> gravel-heavy trail.  We finally got to downtown Sebastapol and even met up
>> with someone on the way that did it on purpose.  Chuck and I both agreed it
>> was a great day and very fortunate we took the wrong trail.  So I want to
>> be able to ride easily and deal with whatever comes up (without getting off
>> to walk too often).  And no sense in me having bullet-proof tires is the
>> others in my group don't.
>> >>>
>> >>> DougP - I appreciate your input, just figured I'd better defend my
>> son quickly before he saw the post! I really appreciate all his input (and
>> will review the tire decision with him before doing anything).  The pannier
>> on my bike was my birthday gift from his family and I'm loving it.
>> >>>
>> >>> Kellie - I will be back in your area tomorrow morning for a few
>> hours.  Is there a bike shop in the area that would likely stock any of the
>> tires I would consider?  I'm getting such a great opportunity to ride
>> different places while we're here that I'd love to make the swap sooner
>> rather than later to maximize my fun.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 4:47:33 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>> 
>>  Kellie: the magic ingredient that allows one much of the best worlds
>> of light, supple tires and freedom from punctures is Stan's or (I hear it's
>> even better) Orange Seal. Stan's has let me use otherwise hopelessly
>> puncture prone Schwalbe Furious Freds 

[RBW] Re: Repair help needed - Stuck stem expander wedge

[Ron Mc]

drop the fork? 

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 11:42:06 AM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Sean
>
> If you don't want to take apart a bunch of stuff going through the 
> underside of the crown, then you should fashion your own wedge puller.  
>
> 1.  Thread your stem bolt two or three rotations into your stuck wedge.  
> 2.  Measure the distance from the top of the headset lock nut to the 
> bottom edge of the head of your stem bolt. Call that distance X
> 3.  Find a block of wood that is X thick.  Stack up a couple pieces of 
> wood if necessary.  
> 4.  Drill a hole through your block of wood just big enough that the stem 
> bolt can pass through
> 5.  Put the block on top of your headset lock nut.  
> 6.  Slide the stem bolt through the hole with a big flat washer to act as 
> a bearing surface
> 7.  Thread the stem bolt into your stuck wedge.  As you tighten the bolt, 
> you'll extract your wedge.
> 8.  If it is stuck all the way up, and you run out of threads on your 
> bolt, you might need to stack up more flat washers
>
> Take advantage of the fact that your wedge is already threaded.  That's 
> what threads are good for.
>
>
>  
> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 4:28:28 PM UTC-7, SeanMac wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your suggestions on how to attack my stuck stem wedge.  The 
>> consensus certainly seems to be that I need to attack it from the bottom of 
>> the head tube.  That suggestion makes a lot of sense to me.  Unfortunately, 
>> it also means that I need to remove the front fender and [most likely] the 
>> front brake as well.  It is amazing how what began as a relatively simple, 
>> straight-forward project has become much more involved.
>>
>> My plan is to purchase a Nitto Tallux stem to use on this bike, as I am 
>> looking to go both a bit taller and longer than my current stem.  Is it 
>> possible [or likely] that the stuck wedge has caused any damage to the head 
>> tube that will make this plan not work?  
>>
>> Anyone have any experience with a threadless stem adaptor, such as this 
>> one sold by VO?  VO Threadless Stem Adaptor 
>> .
>>   
>> I have contemplating using one of these and a VO threadless stem on this 
>> project, but think that the Tallus will work even better for me.
>>
>> Again, thanks for your help.
>>
>> Sean
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Repair help needed - Stuck stem expander wedge

[Bill Lindsay]

Ron

I don't know what you mean by your question.  Maybe you are asking:

"Hey Bill, is it necessary to remove the fork from your bicycle before 
executing those recommended steps?"

If that's your question, then then answer is:  No, it is not necessary to 
remove the fork before executing those recommended steps.



It's not necessary

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 12:19:46 PM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> drop the fork? 
>
> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 11:42:06 AM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Sean
>>
>> If you don't want to take apart a bunch of stuff going through the 
>> underside of the crown, then you should fashion your own wedge puller.  
>>
>> 1.  Thread your stem bolt two or three rotations into your stuck wedge.  
>> 2.  Measure the distance from the top of the headset lock nut to the 
>> bottom edge of the head of your stem bolt. Call that distance X
>> 3.  Find a block of wood that is X thick.  Stack up a couple pieces of 
>> wood if necessary.  
>> 4.  Drill a hole through your block of wood just big enough that the stem 
>> bolt can pass through
>> 5.  Put the block on top of your headset lock nut.  
>> 6.  Slide the stem bolt through the hole with a big flat washer to act as 
>> a bearing surface
>> 7.  Thread the stem bolt into your stuck wedge.  As you tighten the bolt, 
>> you'll extract your wedge.
>> 8.  If it is stuck all the way up, and you run out of threads on your 
>> bolt, you might need to stack up more flat washers
>>
>> Take advantage of the fact that your wedge is already threaded.  That's 
>> what threads are good for.
>>
>>
>>  
>> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 4:28:28 PM UTC-7, SeanMac wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for your suggestions on how to attack my stuck stem wedge.  The 
>>> consensus certainly seems to be that I need to attack it from the bottom of 
>>> the head tube.  That suggestion makes a lot of sense to me.  Unfortunately, 
>>> it also means that I need to remove the front fender and [most likely] the 
>>> front brake as well.  It is amazing how what began as a relatively simple, 
>>> straight-forward project has become much more involved.
>>>
>>> My plan is to purchase a Nitto Tallux stem to use on this bike, as I am 
>>> looking to go both a bit taller and longer than my current stem.  Is it 
>>> possible [or likely] that the stuck wedge has caused any damage to the head 
>>> tube that will make this plan not work?  
>>>
>>> Anyone have any experience with a threadless stem adaptor, such as this 
>>> one sold by VO?  VO Threadless Stem Adaptor 
>>> .
>>>   
>>> I have contemplating using one of these and a VO threadless stem on this 
>>> project, but think that the Tallus will work even better for me.
>>>
>>> Again, thanks for your help.
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Repair help needed - Stuck stem expander wedge

[Ron Mc]

actually wasn't to you Bill, was just considering dropping the fork as a 
way to make handling the stuck wedge problem easier.  Carrying around a 
fork with a stuck wedge is a whole lot easier than carrying around a bike 
with a stuck wedge

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 2:27:51 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Ron
>
> I don't know what you mean by your question.  Maybe you are asking:
>
> "Hey Bill, is it necessary to remove the fork from your bicycle before 
> executing those recommended steps?"
>
> If that's your question, then then answer is:  No, it is not necessary to 
> remove the fork before executing those recommended steps.
>
>
>
> It's not necessary
>
> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 12:19:46 PM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>> drop the fork? 
>>
>> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 11:42:06 AM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>
>>> If you don't want to take apart a bunch of stuff going through the 
>>> underside of the crown, then you should fashion your own wedge puller.  
>>>
>>> 1.  Thread your stem bolt two or three rotations into your stuck wedge.  
>>> 2.  Measure the distance from the top of the headset lock nut to the 
>>> bottom edge of the head of your stem bolt. Call that distance X
>>> 3.  Find a block of wood that is X thick.  Stack up a couple pieces of 
>>> wood if necessary.  
>>> 4.  Drill a hole through your block of wood just big enough that the 
>>> stem bolt can pass through
>>> 5.  Put the block on top of your headset lock nut.  
>>> 6.  Slide the stem bolt through the hole with a big flat washer to act 
>>> as a bearing surface
>>> 7.  Thread the stem bolt into your stuck wedge.  As you tighten the 
>>> bolt, you'll extract your wedge.
>>> 8.  If it is stuck all the way up, and you run out of threads on your 
>>> bolt, you might need to stack up more flat washers
>>>
>>> Take advantage of the fact that your wedge is already threaded.  That's 
>>> what threads are good for.
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 4:28:28 PM UTC-7, SeanMac wrote:


 Thanks for your suggestions on how to attack my stuck stem wedge.  The 
 consensus certainly seems to be that I need to attack it from the bottom 
 of 
 the head tube.  That suggestion makes a lot of sense to me.  
 Unfortunately, 
 it also means that I need to remove the front fender and [most likely] the 
 front brake as well.  It is amazing how what began as a relatively simple, 
 straight-forward project has become much more involved.

 My plan is to purchase a Nitto Tallux stem to use on this bike, as I am 
 looking to go both a bit taller and longer than my current stem.  Is it 
 possible [or likely] that the stuck wedge has caused any damage to the 
 head 
 tube that will make this plan not work?  

 Anyone have any experience with a threadless stem adaptor, such as this 
 one sold by VO?  VO Threadless Stem Adaptor 
 .
   
 I have contemplating using one of these and a VO threadless stem on this 
 project, but think that the Tallus will work even better for me.

 Again, thanks for your help.

 Sean

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Repair help needed - Stuck stem expander wedge

[Bill Lindsay]

OK, so your question:

"drop the fork?"

translates to:

"Sean, before going and hiring a shop or other professional to remove your 
wedge for you, let me suggest you might want to remove the fork from the 
bicycle, because a fork by itself is more portable than a complete bicycle. 
 It will save you some effort"

I get it now.  :-)

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 12:35:51 PM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> actually wasn't to you Bill, was just considering dropping the fork as a 
> way to make handling the stuck wedge problem easier.  Carrying around a 
> fork with a stuck wedge is a whole lot easier than carrying around a bike 
> with a stuck wedge
>
> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 2:27:51 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> I don't know what you mean by your question.  Maybe you are asking:
>>
>> "Hey Bill, is it necessary to remove the fork from your bicycle before 
>> executing those recommended steps?"
>>
>> If that's your question, then then answer is:  No, it is not necessary to 
>> remove the fork before executing those recommended steps.
>>
>>
>>
>> It's not necessary
>>
>> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 12:19:46 PM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
>>>
>>> drop the fork? 
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 11:42:06 AM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 Sean

 If you don't want to take apart a bunch of stuff going through the 
 underside of the crown, then you should fashion your own wedge puller.  

 1.  Thread your stem bolt two or three rotations into your stuck wedge. 
  
 2.  Measure the distance from the top of the headset lock nut to the 
 bottom edge of the head of your stem bolt. Call that distance X
 3.  Find a block of wood that is X thick.  Stack up a couple pieces of 
 wood if necessary.  
 4.  Drill a hole through your block of wood just big enough that the 
 stem bolt can pass through
 5.  Put the block on top of your headset lock nut.  
 6.  Slide the stem bolt through the hole with a big flat washer to act 
 as a bearing surface
 7.  Thread the stem bolt into your stuck wedge.  As you tighten the 
 bolt, you'll extract your wedge.
 8.  If it is stuck all the way up, and you run out of threads on your 
 bolt, you might need to stack up more flat washers

 Take advantage of the fact that your wedge is already threaded.  That's 
 what threads are good for.


  
 On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 4:28:28 PM UTC-7, SeanMac wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for your suggestions on how to attack my stuck stem wedge.  The 
> consensus certainly seems to be that I need to attack it from the bottom 
> of 
> the head tube.  That suggestion makes a lot of sense to me.  
> Unfortunately, 
> it also means that I need to remove the front fender and [most likely] 
> the 
> front brake as well.  It is amazing how what began as a relatively 
> simple, 
> straight-forward project has become much more involved.
>
> My plan is to purchase a Nitto Tallux stem to use on this bike, as I 
> am looking to go both a bit taller and longer than my current stem.  Is 
> it 
> possible [or likely] that the stuck wedge has caused any damage to the 
> head 
> tube that will make this plan not work?  
>
> Anyone have any experience with a threadless stem adaptor, such as 
> this one sold by VO?  VO Threadless Stem Adaptor 
> .
>   
> I have contemplating using one of these and a VO threadless stem on this 
> project, but think that the Tallus will work even better for me.
>
> Again, thanks for your help.
>
> Sean
>


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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for head coverings for riding in the sun?

[Montclair BobbyB]

I shave my head every day, and have fair skin... No naked dome for me... If 
riding without a helmet, I'll typically wear a baseball cap with suncreen 
on my neck and ears.  Otherwise I wear a Doo rag or bandana under my helmet 
and/or LOTS of sunscreen and my helmet.

In transitional weather (Sping and Fall), WOOL baby, WOOL... It's the BEST.

BB
.

On Saturday, March 21, 2015 at 11:24:36 AM UTC-4, hangtownmatt wrote:
>
> Here's what I use:
>
> http://www.treadley.com.au/
>  
> This little cottage industry was developed by a concerned mother in 
> Australia.  They can look a bit goofy but work fantastic.  If I remember 
> correctly she had a big sale right around Easter last year.
>
> Matt
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for head coverings for riding in the sun?

[Steve Palincsar]

but one thing for sure: if I went around constantly telling the world 
how f*cked up my brain was due to repeated head traumas I'd damn sure be 
wearing that helmet, no matter what I wore or didn't wear under it.


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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for head coverings for riding in the sun?

[Deacon Patrick]

Och, Steve! If you needed help following my reasoning all you had to do was 
ask. It can be challenging keeping up with the brain bludgeoned. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 2:16:10 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> but one thing for sure: if I went around constantly telling the world 
> how f*cked up my brain was due to repeated head traumas I'd damn sure be 
> wearing that helmet, no matter what I wore or didn't wear under it. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Cambium vs. Flyer question

[Amit Singh]

Maybe TMI, maybe a joke, but definitely worth considering. Has anyone 
experienced the Cambium saddle pulling their butt hair? It's terribly 
uncomfortable for me to ride ... I tried two different saddles, two 
different times, two miles each time and it was too unbearable.

On Sunday, 29 March 2015 20:32:58 UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:
>
> If you have used both, does the Cambiums flex reduce road shock as nicely 
> as the sprung Flyer does? I hate road shock, It hurts my back. Interested 
> in Cambium though because of its waterproof-ness.
>
> I asked Brooks if they were going to have a sprung Cambium, and they said 
> no because the flex properties on the Cambium do the job well.
> Wondered if you all think so.
> Thanks for any info.
> I like that it is not affected by rain like the leather.
>

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[RBW] Re: Cambium vs. Flyer question

[Amit Singh]

Maybe TMI, maybe a laugh for some, but definitely worth considering: Has 
anyone experienced the Cambium saddle pulling their butt hair? It's 
terribly uncomfortable for me to ride ... I tried two different saddles, 
two different times, two miles each time and it was too unbearable.

On Sunday, 29 March 2015 20:32:58 UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:
>
> If you have used both, does the Cambiums flex reduce road shock as nicely 
> as the sprung Flyer does? I hate road shock, It hurts my back. Interested 
> in Cambium though because of its waterproof-ness.
>
> I asked Brooks if they were going to have a sprung Cambium, and they said 
> no because the flex properties on the Cambium do the job well.
> Wondered if you all think so.
> Thanks for any info.
> I like that it is not affected by rain like the leather.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for head coverings for riding in the sun?

[Bill Lindsay]

Deacon Patrick may have received a few blows to the head, but he expertly 
ducked Steve's punch!  Bravo.  

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 1:30:39 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Och, Steve! If you needed help following my reasoning all you had to do 
> was ask. It can be challenging keeping up with the brain bludgeoned. Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 2:16:10 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>
>> but one thing for sure: if I went around constantly telling the world 
>> how f*cked up my brain was due to repeated head traumas I'd damn sure be 
>> wearing that helmet, no matter what I wore or didn't wear under it. 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cambium vs. Flyer question

['Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Was this during World Naked Bike Ride?
-Norm who has not experienced ass hair yankage with his Cambium in PDX
  From: Amit Singh 
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
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 Subject: [RBW] Re: Cambium vs. Flyer question
   
Maybe TMI, maybe a laugh for some, but definitely worth considering: Has anyone 
experienced the Cambium saddle pulling their butt hair? It's terribly 
uncomfortable for me to ride ... I tried two different saddles, two different 
times, two miles each time and it was too unbearable.



On Sunday, 29 March 2015 20:32:58 UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:
If you have used both, does the Cambiums flex reduce road shock as nicely as 
the sprung Flyer does? I hate road shock, It hurts my back. Interested in 
Cambium though because of its waterproof-ness.
I asked Brooks if they were going to have a sprung Cambium, and they said no 
because the flex properties on the Cambium do the job well.Wondered if you all 
think so.Thanks for any info.I like that it is not affected by rain like the 
leather.
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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for head coverings for riding in the sun?

[Montclair BobbyB]

Hah!!   Snark-o-meter in the RED!!

Patrick, a poke from Steve is kinda like a badge of honor, only different.  
(Sardonic grin).

Peace, amigo. 
BB

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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for head coverings for riding in the sun?

[Bill Lindsay]

Badge of Honor!  Genius. 

You know the Bruce Gordon story?  Bruce Gordon has kind of a pretty widely 
held rep as a sourpuss.  One year, Bruce showed an excellent sense of humor 
at his own expense by handing out "Bruce Gordon was rude to me" pins.  He 
has a limited edition version for the exceptions that read "Bruce Gordon 
was nice to me".  Lovely Bicycle blog has a nice story about a typical 
exchange with Bruce (who I happen to like a lot).  

We should make "Steve P snarked at me"  pins for people to pin on their 
Saddlesacks, right next to the "UnRacer", "Early Adopter", "Just Ride" and 
"ACW" pins.  


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>
> Hah!!   Snark-o-meter in the RED!! 
>
> Patrick, a poke from Steve is kinda like a badge of honor, only different. 
>  (Sardonic grin). 
>
> Peace, amigo. 
> BB

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[RBW] Re: FS: MUSA splats, Showers Pass Club Convertible Rain Pants

[Zack]

Splats are gone.

Let's say $65 for the rain pants.

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[RBW] Re: Cambium vs. Flyer question

[Paul G]

The differences in material also make a difference in how the saddles feel. 
I think the Cambium is more prone to chafing due to more friction in the 
saddle. I tends to grab clothing more which can rub it against skin while 
pedaling. Leather allows clothing to slide across its surface more reducing 
this effect. The Cambium (non-carved tested) does have a good amount of 
flex and vibration damping though. That aspect is very similar to B17. But 
it seems the pressure against my sit bones is fairly hard and it will never 
improve like a leather saddle.

Since I only weight around 160, I've never tried a Flyer version.

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[RBW] B-Stone on CL

[Chris in Redding, Ca.]

Hey All,
Not mine. No relation. And in Riv HQ's backyard.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/4956548516.html

Chris
Redding, Ca.

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Re: [RBW] B-Stone on CL

[Jim Bronson]

Macro Fail on picture 4...

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Chris in Redding, Ca. <
campredd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey All,
> Not mine. No relation. And in Riv HQ's backyard.
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/4956548516.html
>
> Chris
> Redding, Ca.
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[RBW] Re: B-Stone on CL

[Bill Lindsay]

$250?  Seems like there's an extra digit in the price.  Delete any of those 
three digits and we'll be in the ballpark.  

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 3:13:59 PM UTC-7, Chris in Redding, Ca. wrote:
>
> Hey All,
> Not mine. No relation. And in Riv HQ's backyard.
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/4956548516.html
>
> Chris
> Redding, Ca.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Got my new Cheviot

[Bruce Herbitter]

I recall Jan doing a thorough tire comparison.  The old G.B. Ourson has the
same tread as CDV on a better body and rides noticeably nicer. I have the
non TG pasela 1 1/2" on my Ram and Oursons on the Road with a TREK wearing
Maxy Fastys. They all ride well but the Paselas are the noisiest of the
bunch. The maxy Fastys are best against puncture.  Pari Motos are lovely to
ride on but puncture more easily. Mileage on them is around 2,000 max which
is about the same as the Pasela. The others will get you over 3,000. Cypres
ran in between iirc. I have been trying to use up some of my stockpile
prior to buying new tires, but many of the new offerings are tempting.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Dave C 
wrote:

> That's sounds like a good offer.
>
> I have never uses the Hetres, but I currently am using the 32 mm GB
> Cypres, and I really do like them a bunch. I have been using them on fire
> roads in my area, and I think they have been very versatile and have a nice
> ride. When my wife's Glorius is in need of new tires, I will get her the
> Hetres, even though the Col de la vies are fine. In fact, I can't say for
> sure the Cypres is any better than a non-TG Pasela, but I think it's good
> to have the options that didn't exist a decade ago.
>
> Does anyone know if the Cypres tires have been empirically compared to the
> Paselas with any conclusive results?
>
> And has the new 650B Pasela been tested by anyone yet (assuming it is out)
> and compared to the Hetres?
>
>
> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 9:47:17 AM UTC-7, KC wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dan, Was that offer meant for me rather than Kellie?  Hetres?
>>
>> On Mar 30, 2015 9:41 AM, "Dan McNamara"  wrote:
>> >
>> > Kellie - I have a slightly used pair that you are welcome to try if you
>> want. I bought them from the list to have some backup tires but they might
>> be better put to use.
>> >
>> > I work in Emeryville and drive from San Rafael every day so we could
>> arrange something.
>> >
>> > Dan
>> >
>> > On Mar 30, 2015, at 7:25 AM, Kellie  wrote:
>> >
>> >>  Is there a bike shop in the area that would likely stock any of the
>> tires I would consider?
>> >> Lots of bike shops but I don't know who'd have Hetres. Wheels of
>> Justice on Solano, Mikes Bikes, Missing Link, Blue Heron; these are all in
>> Berkeley. Many love the Hetres…..
>> >>
>> >> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:53:22 PM UTC-7, KC wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I like the concept of the 42's.  My limited research (that is
>> googling) led me to believe the Hetres would be a good choice.  While they
>> are more expensive, it is important to keep in mind I just "justified"  a
>> Rivendell (even though not the most expensive choice, it was a lot more
>> than I ever thought I'd spend for a bike).  I'm old enough that I get to
>> say, quite frequently it seems, "I only have so many years left..."  Works
>> out pretty good, especially when added to the fact that I'm sorta on
>> vacation right now and in my family, when you go on vacation, you get to
>> justify a lot.  So I want to make sure I am getting to know the Cheviot
>> under good conditions.
>> >>>
>> >>> If no one has a reason I shouldn't give the Hetres a try, that is
>> what I will probably do (and be sure to take along something to fix a tire
>> with).  I am interested in hearing if anyone thinks that is a bad choice. I
>> don't mind spending the money on them, just don't want to do it over and
>> over, since I only have one bike to use the tires on.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I don't go out of my way to ride gravel, but I seem to end up on at
>> least some gravel everywhere I go.  But only "some".  Like today, we headed
>> off to take the Joe Rodota trail from Santa Rosa to Sebastapol and somehow
>> made a wrong turn right away and ended up on a different trail that turned
>> out to be wonderful (photo above) and we thought a much nicer ride than the
>> Joe Rodota trail (which we managed to take for the return trip).  And since
>> we didn't know we were on the wrong trail, when we got to the end of trail
>> sign we kept going because there was still a trail and we obviously weren't
>> where we were headed yet.  And at that point, the trail because a pretty
>> gravel-heavy trail.  We finally got to downtown Sebastapol and even met up
>> with someone on the way that did it on purpose.  Chuck and I both agreed it
>> was a great day and very fortunate we took the wrong trail.  So I want to
>> be able to ride easily and deal with whatever comes up (without getting off
>> to walk too often).  And no sense in me having bullet-proof tires is the
>> others in my group don't.
>> >>>
>> >>> DougP - I appreciate your input, just figured I'd better defend my
>> son quickly before he saw the post! I really appreciate all his input (and
>> will review the tire decision with him before doing anything).  The pannier
>> on my bike was my birthday gift from his family and I'm loving it.
>> >>>
>> >>> Kellie - I will be back in your area tomorrow morning for a few
>> 

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for head coverings for riding in the sun?

[Edwin W]

That response put the "Deacon" in Deacon Patrick. 

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[RBW] Re: B-Stone on CL

[Chris in Redding, Ca.]

Hah. I have seen these before with "Bridgestone" written all over them. I 
assumed they were B-stones. If someone has at the ready the best place to 
learn what I apparently don't know, please send it my way.

So is this guy taking a trip to Riv HQ for nothing? 

Feeling sheepish in beautiful Redding, Ca,
Chris

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[RBW] Just Got My Goathead Demerit Badge!

[Liesl]

Thanks Philip Bike Tinker for fabulous patches for our saddle bags!  We 
don't live in goathead country, but earned the patches with a flat in 
Albuquerque along the Rio Grande.  Will wear with pride!
Thanks for letting the group know they're available!

In case you missed the patch but feel you have earned one...

https://www.etsy.com/listing/222086431/goathead-thorn-embroidered-patch

xxoo riv chica warrior

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[RBW] Re: B-Stone on CL

[Bill Lindsay]

I think everything you need to know is included in the phrase:

Guaranteed World Finest Bicycle Precision Mechanism


But seriously,1970s bike-boom bikes like that were about $100 new, and 
should depreciate from there.  They are bicycles, and as such worthy of 
being ridden.  They never were collectors items, and as such are not worthy 
of increasing in value.  In the 80s when you needed a beater for college, 
you'd pick up one of those for $20 at a garage sale and not cry when it got 
stolen. In the 90s when they rolled in as a trade in, you'd put straight 
bars and new tires and cables on them, and sell them for $80.  Now, no 
mechanics even remember cottered cranks, much less possess the tools to get 
them off, much less possess the cotters to put them back on.  

That one is a really really nice color and the chromed tips are pretty, but 
if I owned that bike, I'd give it away.  If Grant saw it locked to a 
parking meter, he might take photos of it and write interesting comments 
about manufacturing details of the era, but he would have no interest in 
owning it, possessing it, or riding it, much less giving any of his money 
for it.  The 1970s were a miraculous time in the history of cycling, that 
laid the groundwork for a lot of things that happened afterwards, but the 
cheapest bikes from the 1970s deserve to be collected about as much as the 
cheapest cars from the 1970s do.  
 

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 3:47:11 PM UTC-7, Chris in Redding, Ca. wrote:
>
> Hah. I have seen these before with "Bridgestone" written all over them. I 
> assumed they were B-stones. If someone has at the ready the best place to 
> learn what I apparently don't know, please send it my way.
>
> So is this guy taking a trip to Riv HQ for nothing? 
>
> Feeling sheepish in beautiful Redding, Ca,
> Chris
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Got my new Cheviot

[Liesl]

I giggled out loud at that first kitchen shot. Classic!

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 1:38:53 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I tend to favor the kitchen it seems:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4205517724
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/2406321019 
> 
>
> Not so good for taking a nap, but snacks are handy.
>
>
>  

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[RBW] Re: Just Got My Goathead Demerit Badge!

[Bill Lindsay]

Those are really cute.  

Tinker, make sure your etsy listing has the diameter of the patch.  Or 
photograph it next to a quarter for relative size.  

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 4:12:27 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:
>
> Thanks Philip Bike Tinker for fabulous patches for our saddle bags!  We 
> don't live in goathead country, but earned the patches with a flat in 
> Albuquerque along the Rio Grande.  Will wear with pride!
> Thanks for letting the group know they're available!
>
> In case you missed the patch but feel you have earned one...
>
> https://www.etsy.com/listing/222086431/goathead-thorn-embroidered-patch
>
> xxoo riv chica warrior
>

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[RBW] Re: B-Stone on CL

[Chris in Redding, Ca.]

Thanks Bill. Funny how stuff works. I know a place that has all the cotters 
you would want. He is a frame maker/shop owner from way back. I go there 
sometimes for what I need. I don't ride those bikes but I fix them. I know 
another place that has a store of the leather washers for Silca track 
pumps. Odd how each of us values things differently. Someone here (or a 
BOB) recently posted that he woud rather drive a second hand BMW rather 
than a new Corolla. That struck me only in that I feel entirely 
differently. 

Thanks for the perspective.

Chris

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[RBW] Re: B-Stone on CL

[Bill Lindsay]

It's the VAR cotter press that is worth owning:

VAR Cotter Press 

I'd love to have one of those hanging at my workbench.  Not kidding.  

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 4:29:30 PM UTC-7, Chris in Redding, Ca. wrote:
>
> Thanks Bill. Funny how stuff works. I know a place that has all the 
> cotters you would want. He is a frame maker/shop owner from way back. I go 
> there sometimes for what I need. I don't ride those bikes but I fix them. I 
> know another place that has a store of the leather washers for Silca track 
> pumps. Odd how each of us values things differently. Someone here (or a 
> BOB) recently posted that he woud rather drive a second hand BMW rather 
> than a new Corolla. That struck me only in that I feel entirely 
> differently. 
>
> Thanks for the perspective.
>
> Chris
>

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[RBW] Re: Just Got My Goathead Demerit Badge!

[dougP]

It's 2" in diameter.  And you don't need to have had a goathead flat.  They 
also work to ward off goatheads.  Proof was at Strada Rossa, where these 
made their debut.  No goathead flats that I heard about.

dougP

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 4:12:27 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:
>
> Thanks Philip Bike Tinker for fabulous patches for our saddle bags!  We 
> don't live in goathead country, but earned the patches with a flat in 
> Albuquerque along the Rio Grande.  Will wear with pride!
> Thanks for letting the group know they're available!
>
> In case you missed the patch but feel you have earned one...
>
> https://www.etsy.com/listing/222086431/goathead-thorn-embroidered-patch
>
> xxoo riv chica warrior
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: The one(s) that got away (or, that Atlantis in Cincinnati)

[dougP]

Kickstand plates and mid-fork braze-ons can be added.  If you can live with 
some roughness in the paint in those areas, the old Testors model paint is 
a good match.  

dougP

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 8:45:35 AM UTC-7, Mark Wilkins wrote:
>
> Thanks, Bill. 
>
> Yeah, and I would have missed the mid-fork braze-ons, too. :-)
>
> Mark
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 30, 2015, at 10:50, Bill Lindsay > 
> wrote:
>
> You didn't want that one, anyway.  It didn't have a kickstand plate!  ;-)
>
> It's like baseball.  When you are at-bat, be patiently aggressive.  Wait 
> for a pitch to hit, but when your pitch comes, get all over it.  My 58 
> Atlantis appeared before I was truly ready for it, but it was exactly what 
> I wanted and local, at the right price, so I jumped, and got it.  Mine 
> doesn't have a kickstand plate either,  :-(
>
> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 7:21:12 AM UTC-7, Mark Wilkins wrote:
>>
>> Last week, I asked the group about experiences with purchasing a bike 
>> from someplace far away, and having someone assist you with inspection, 
>> shipping, transport, etc.  Thanks again to all who offered their opinions 
>> and stories.
>>
>> The reason I was asking about this: I had seen a 58cm Atlantis complete 
>> in Cincinnati (about 460mi away from me) for what I thought was a pretty 
>> good price.  My real problem, though, is (and has always been) that I hem 
>> and haw until the opportunity slips away.  And so, it happened again. 
>>  Contacted the seller last night to see if he'd ship it, or hold on to it 
>> until I could get out there, and the bike had been sold on Friday. 
>>  Still...the CL posting is up...mocking me... (
>> http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/bik/4931485051.html)
>>
>> "You need a good kick in the ass!"  That's what my wife says, anyway :-)
>>
>> Oh, and if you're the one that bought that bike: Congrats!  And...if you 
>> have second thoughts, or it doesn't fit quite right, don't hesitate to drop 
>> me a note ;-)
>>
>> Mark
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: The one(s) that got away (or, that Atlantis in Cincinnati)

[Mark Wilkins]

C'mon, dougP! I was trying to make myself feel better!

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 7:50 PM, dougP  wrote:
> Kickstand plates and mid-fork braze-ons can be added.  If you can live with
> some roughness in the paint in those areas, the old Testors model paint is a
> good match.
>
> dougP
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Got my new Cheviot

[KC]

Next challenge.  I can't ride without a mirror. In fact i used 2 bar end 
mirrors on my old bike - i have a condition that results in less peripheral 
vision (minimized eye movement) so it really helps me keep track.  

New bike has bar end shifters that I'm really enjoying.  I added one German 
mirror from riv cuz i didn't see a better option based on my googles and bike 
shop forays.  It's ok, but the distortion is so different. I am used to a much 
truer perspective.  

i really prefer not using a helmet mount. Has anyone seen a good handle bar 
option?It also seems like i should be able to create a mount that would let 
me repurpose my bar end mirrors to mount on the handle bar. Has anyone done 
that?  Hard for me to believe someone else hasn't tackled this already.

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[RBW] The one(s) that got away (or, that Atlantis in Cincinnati)

[Michael Fleischman]

I picked it up last week and it is now at it's new home in Indianapolis.  
Seller was super nice.  I have been looking for one for a while.  Nice to find 
one semi-locally - almost had a seller ship one from California last fall.

It seems to be getting along with my AHH quite nicely.

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[RBW] Re: The one(s) that got away (or, that Atlantis in Cincinnati)

[dougP]

Mike:

We have a couple of guys here in our SoCal Riv group that have the Atlantis 
plus Homer combo.  Seems to work.

dougP

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 6:29:24 PM UTC-7, Michael Fleischman wrote:
>
> I picked it up last week and it is now at it's new home in Indianapolis. 
>  Seller was super nice.  I have been looking for one for a while.  Nice to 
> find one semi-locally - almost had a seller ship one from California last 
> fall. 
>
> It seems to be getting along with my AHH quite nicely. 
>
> Mike

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[RBW] Re: The one(s) that got away (or, that Atlantis in Cincinnati)

[Deacon Patrick]

I'm sure Johnny Fever at WKRP will be happy to help with the next 
transaction that happens in Cincinnati. Grin. And now I can't get the tune 
out my bloomin' head. Sardonic grin.

With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: The one(s) that got away (or, that Atlantis in Cincinnati)

[Michael Fleischman]

The AHH has been a great bike.  Hardly a complaint.  I do feel some slight flex 
when I load it down for s24o's.  I have some 35 Panaracer T - SERV's on it and 
it handles well on most surfaces I have tried.

I am looking to ride more trails and fire roads with the Atlantis.  Trying to 
decide on tires now.  I put some Schwalbe Little Big Bens I had laying around 
on it - for the time being.  Considering leaving fenders off.  At some point 
I'll put my Albastache's on and take off the Dirt Drops.  Immediately put a 
rack and basket on the front.  Will probably throw a rack on the back soon.  
That is where I am at with it.  Any input appreciated.

Mike.

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Re: [RBW] The one(s) that got away (or, that Atlantis in Cincinnati)

[Aaron Young]

Never let a kickstand plate be a deal killer, because you can never
completely trust a kickstand.

-Aaron "Kickstand Skeptic" Young
The Dalles, OR


On Monday, March 30, 2015, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> I'm sure Johnny Fever at WKRP will be happy to help with the next
> transaction that happens in Cincinnati. Grin. And now I can't get the tune
> out my bloomin' head. Sardonic grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] Re: Appropriate compensation for help with a Craigslist sale?

[Tonester]

I've shipped a number of guitars for the cost of shipping - the more you 
ship, the more friends you make, the more likely that someone's going to 
return the favor.

On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 6:54:42 AM UTC-7, Mark Wilkins wrote:
>
> I know that some folks on the list have helped or have been helped with a 
> CL (or other) purchase where the seller wouldn't ship. I suppose this 
> involves transporting the bike to a nearby shop that would pack and ship, 
> or maybe something else. 
>
> What's the going rate for assistance like that? Cash? RBW gift 
> certificate? Payment in bike parts? 
>
> I suppose it all depends on the effort involved. I guess what I'm really 
> looking for your experiences (on either side). 
>
> All opinions welcome. 
>
> Thanks! 
>
> Mark Wilkins 
> Camp Hill, PA 
>
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[RBW] Re: How was your weekend ride?

[JohnS]

Thanks everyone who replied, glad to hear the variety of riding that's 
going on. Next week will be a challenge because of the holiday. Looks like 
we'll try to get out on Saturday.

Marshmallow legs! That's a good one that I can relate to. I was there at 
the end of my Sunday ride.

JohnS

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 12:43:46 PM UTC-4, DS wrote:
>
> Great idea! And nice QB. 
>
> I almost never do group rides (20+ people), but a fellow RBW-er invited me 
> to a Grizzly Peak Cyclists ride in the Oakland/Berkeley/Orinda hills area, 
> ~35 miles with 2700 feet of climbing. I do these routes and climbs all the 
> time by myself, and generally consider myself a slow, meandering cyclists 
> that is out for the sake of riding, but something came over me and I sped 
> to the front of the pack on my Gunnar Sport (almost took my new Sam) and 
> stayed there the whole ride. Felt pretty good. I was 3rd out of 25 people 
> or so the whole time. I like that I now know that I can push myself outside 
> of my 11-12mph comfort zone into a 14-15 mph one and not feel totally 
> ragged after, I still had plenty of energy after. Though maybe the ride up 
> Tunnel on my quickbeam 2 days  prior helped warm me up.
>
> Two observations from my weekend ride:
> 1. I love the Oakland / Berkeley hills. I've lived here 4 years and I 
> still can't believe such amazing greenspace and parks that are within urban 
> city limits. All my climbing up Tunnel road has definitely made me a 
> stronger rider. 
> 2. After getting to top of the largest and longest climb we stopped for a 
> break and a handful of people were looking at my bike (which had grand bois 
> cypres 700 x 33 tires) commenting about how they'd love a steel bike with 
> 28mm tires for a commuter bike, which just seemed weird to me since I was 
> on such a bike with even wider tires and it clearly was not a commuter 
> bike. Not to mention I had been there waiting for 5 minutes or more before 
> that group even showed up. I spend so much time on this thread and with 
> other RWB-ers that I forget how much we stand out with our baggy clothes, 
> steel bikes, wide tires, racks, and bags. Everyone was really cool about it 
> of course, and no ill feelings either way.
>

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[RBW] Re: Simplifying the Simpleone

[JohnS]

Nice looking So. Got to love those Wald baskets mounted low, just above the 
front tire. I can hardly notice when it's loaded.

JohnS


On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 11:52:39 AM UTC-4, twin wrote:
>
> My Handsome Devil is a single speed and its great for riding to school to 
> teach or further. I wrote the folks at Handsome Bicycles and they thought 
> it couldn't be made into a 650 b. I am having a 650 b frame made by the 
> local frame builder and will move my components from my Rawland. It will be 
> somewhat like my Bleriot when I had it.

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[RBW] Re: Cambium vs. Flyer question

[lungimsam]

I am ~ 170lbs., and I have always felt my Flyer springs bounce. Its like 
turning your bike into a limo. At my weight it bounces just enough to be 
comfortable. It doesn't bounce too much. Just right.
It is great at eliminating road shock.

I need a saddle with a cutout and was wondering if the Cambium eliminates 
road shock as well as the Flyer. Otherwise I might try an Imperial Flyer. 
They are available now at wallbike.com.

 

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[RBW] Re: Repair help needed - Stuck stem expander wedge

[JohnS]

I've had my share of 10 minute bike projects turn into 3 hour late into the 
night projects. Good thing I'm not on the clock and that I'm doing it for 
fun.

JohnS


On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 3:47:04 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> OK, so your question:
>
> "drop the fork?"
>
> translates to:
>
> "Sean, before going and hiring a shop or other professional to remove your 
> wedge for you, let me suggest you might want to remove the fork from the 
> bicycle, because a fork by itself is more portable than a complete bicycle. 
>  It will save you some effort"
>
> I get it now.  :-)
>
> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 12:35:51 PM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>> actually wasn't to you Bill, was just considering dropping the fork as a 
>> way to make handling the stuck wedge problem easier.  Carrying around a 
>> fork with a stuck wedge is a whole lot easier than carrying around a bike 
>> with a stuck wedge
>>
>> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 2:27:51 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>> I don't know what you mean by your question.  Maybe you are asking:
>>>
>>> "Hey Bill, is it necessary to remove the fork from your bicycle before 
>>> executing those recommended steps?"
>>>
>>> If that's your question, then then answer is:  No, it is not necessary 
>>> to remove the fork before executing those recommended steps.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's not necessary
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 12:19:46 PM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:

 drop the fork? 

 On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 11:42:06 AM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Sean
>
> If you don't want to take apart a bunch of stuff going through the 
> underside of the crown, then you should fashion your own wedge puller.  
>
> 1.  Thread your stem bolt two or three rotations into your stuck 
> wedge.  
> 2.  Measure the distance from the top of the headset lock nut to the 
> bottom edge of the head of your stem bolt. Call that distance X
> 3.  Find a block of wood that is X thick.  Stack up a couple pieces of 
> wood if necessary.  
> 4.  Drill a hole through your block of wood just big enough that the 
> stem bolt can pass through
> 5.  Put the block on top of your headset lock nut.  
> 6.  Slide the stem bolt through the hole with a big flat washer to act 
> as a bearing surface
> 7.  Thread the stem bolt into your stuck wedge.  As you tighten the 
> bolt, you'll extract your wedge.
> 8.  If it is stuck all the way up, and you run out of threads on your 
> bolt, you might need to stack up more flat washers
>
> Take advantage of the fact that your wedge is already threaded. 
>  That's what threads are good for.
>
>
>  
> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 4:28:28 PM UTC-7, SeanMac wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your suggestions on how to attack my stuck stem wedge.  
>> The consensus certainly seems to be that I need to attack it from the 
>> bottom of the head tube.  That suggestion makes a lot of sense to me.  
>> Unfortunately, it also means that I need to remove the front fender and 
>> [most likely] the front brake as well.  It is amazing how what began as 
>> a 
>> relatively simple, straight-forward project has become much more 
>> involved.
>>
>> My plan is to purchase a Nitto Tallux stem to use on this bike, as I 
>> am looking to go both a bit taller and longer than my current stem.  Is 
>> it 
>> possible [or likely] that the stuck wedge has caused any damage to the 
>> head 
>> tube that will make this plan not work?  
>>
>> Anyone have any experience with a threadless stem adaptor, such as 
>> this one sold by VO?  VO Threadless Stem Adaptor 
>> .
>>   
>> I have contemplating using one of these and a VO threadless stem on this 
>> project, but think that the Tallus will work even better for me.
>>
>> Again, thanks for your help.
>>
>> Sean
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] The one(s) that got away (or, that Atlantis in Cincinnati)

[René Sterental]

FWIW, my Atlantis with the Compass Barlow Pass tires is riding a lot nicer
than my Hunqapillar with its 50mm Big Bens on pavement. I'm on my second
week commuting to work twice a week and riding one day in the weekend on
the Atlantis, simulating that I only have one bike. When I posted to the
group my thoughts on downsizing, the bike I had been riding prior to my two
year hiatus was the Hunqapillar and when I compared them briefly, it felt
the most comfortable. Now, since I switched the Atlantis handlebars and out
the Barlow Pass tires I had purchased when they just came out, when I tried
riding the Hunqapillar on Saturday to go downtown, I didn't feel
comfortable. The Bosco Bullmoose felt too high, the bike felt rough and
heavy. I was definitely slower than on the Atlantis and it felt a lot less
agile. I rode the Hunqapillar unloaded.

So if you asked me now which would be the bike that I'd keep for sure, I'd
be leaning towards the Atlantis. Not sure how it would ride if I loaded it
for an S24O with my heft, but I guess I can always try it down the line.

Next time an Atlantis your size shows up, go for it!

René

On Monday, March 30, 2015, Aaron Young <1ce...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Never let a kickstand plate be a deal killer, because you can never
> completely trust a kickstand.
>
> -Aaron "Kickstand Skeptic" Young
> The Dalles, OR
>
>
> On Monday, March 30, 2015, Deacon Patrick  > wrote:
>
>> I'm sure Johnny Fever at WKRP will be happy to help with the next
>> transaction that happens in Cincinnati. Grin. And now I can't get the tune
>> out my bloomin' head. Sardonic grin.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
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[RBW] Just Got My Goathead Demerit Badge!

[Philip Williamson]

Thanks, Liesl! Such a pleasure.
Bill - I'll do that, thanks for the heads up.
Doug - they really do ward off punctures, don't they? 

Philip
www.biketinker.com

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Re: [RBW] Just Got My Goathead Demerit Badge!

[cyclotourist]

Apparently next year we'll need a thumbtack badge:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205447607581788&set=p.10205447607581788&type=1&theater

:-(

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philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Liesl! Such a pleasure.
> Bill - I'll do that, thanks for the heads up.
> Doug - they really do ward off punctures, don't they?
>
> Philip
> www.biketinker.com
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[RBW] Re: Just Got My Goathead Demerit Badge!

[shawn m.]

These are really cool, but having never actually SEEN a goathead (let alone 
a flat), I feel like I'd be tempting fate to sport one now...

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 4:12:27 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:
>
> Thanks Philip Bike Tinker for fabulous patches for our saddle bags!  We 
> don't live in goathead country, but earned the patches with a flat in 
> Albuquerque along the Rio Grande.  Will wear with pride!
> Thanks for letting the group know they're available!
>
> In case you missed the patch but feel you have earned one...
>
> https://www.etsy.com/listing/222086431/goathead-thorn-embroidered-patch
>
> xxoo riv chica warrior
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Re: [RBW] The one(s) that got away (or, that Atlantis in Cincinnati)

[Mark Wilkins]

Michael:  Sounds like it's found a great home.  Enjoy!

Rene:  I definitely will go for it.  In fact, I may have to become
more active in my pursuits.  As I was turning the idea of owning an
Atlantis over in my mind, I started to get really excited.  I think
it's just a matter of time. :-)

Mark


On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 10:41 PM, René Sterental  wrote:
> FWIW, my Atlantis with the Compass Barlow Pass tires is riding a lot nicer
> than my Hunqapillar with its 50mm Big Bens on pavement. I'm on my second
> week commuting to work twice a week and riding one day in the weekend on the
> Atlantis, simulating that I only have one bike. When I posted to the group
> my thoughts on downsizing, the bike I had been riding prior to my two year
> hiatus was the Hunqapillar and when I compared them briefly, it felt the
> most comfortable. Now, since I switched the Atlantis handlebars and out the
> Barlow Pass tires I had purchased when they just came out, when I tried
> riding the Hunqapillar on Saturday to go downtown, I didn't feel
> comfortable. The Bosco Bullmoose felt too high, the bike felt rough and
> heavy. I was definitely slower than on the Atlantis and it felt a lot less
> agile. I rode the Hunqapillar unloaded.
>
> So if you asked me now which would be the bike that I'd keep for sure, I'd
> be leaning towards the Atlantis. Not sure how it would ride if I loaded it
> for an S24O with my heft, but I guess I can always try it down the line.
>
> Next time an Atlantis your size shows up, go for it!
>
> René
>
>
> On Monday, March 30, 2015, Aaron Young <1ce...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Never let a kickstand plate be a deal killer, because you can never
>> completely trust a kickstand.
>>
>> -Aaron "Kickstand Skeptic" Young
>> The Dalles, OR
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 30, 2015, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm sure Johnny Fever at WKRP will be happy to help with the next
>>> transaction that happens in Cincinnati. Grin. And now I can't get the tune
>>> out my bloomin' head. Sardonic grin.
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
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[RBW] 54cm Hunqapillar on LA Craigslist

[sameness]

Spiffy build. No relation, etc.

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/bid/4955098255.html

Full build notes here:

http://cocosvariety.com/collections/used-bicycles/products/rivendell-hunqapillar-fresh-build

Mr. Jalopy is legit, so no sketchy "is/isn't stolen" worries here. He will 
also ship for the princely sum of $150.00.

There is a 13-outta-17 chance I can go take a peek on Saturday AM if you 
care, just drop me a line off-list.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Got my new Cheviot

[Dave C]

http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product_10053_10052_552651_-1___

http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product_10053_10052_535557_-1___

These mounts on the bars themselves, not the ends.

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 5:18:51 PM UTC-7, KC wrote:
>
> Next challenge.  I can't ride without a mirror. In fact i used 2 bar end 
> mirrors on my old bike - i have a condition that results in less peripheral 
> vision (minimized eye movement) so it really helps me keep track.   
>
> New bike has bar end shifters that I'm really enjoying.  I added one 
> German mirror from riv cuz i didn't see a better option based on my googles 
> and bike shop forays.  It's ok, but the distortion is so different. I am 
> used to a much truer perspective.   
>
> i really prefer not using a helmet mount. Has anyone seen a good handle 
> bar option?It also seems like i should be able to create a mount that 
> would let me repurpose my bar end mirrors to mount on the handle bar. Has 
> anyone done that?  Hard for me to believe someone else hasn't tackled this 
> already.

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[RBW] Re: How was your weekend ride?

[lungimsam]

I got off work Sunday, and decided that since I had 3.5 hours until sundown I'd 
go for a ride on my 53 Bleriot to train for the upcoming century in Cambridge, 
MD on May 2nd.

I enjoyed one of my favorite loops around Ellicott City. Did it twice making 31 
miles. Beautiful. Low 40's. Sunny. Pretty clouds. Alotta people out walking for 
exercise. Saw some cyclists too!

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[RBW] Re: Simplifying the Simpleone

[DS]

Looking good! What size frame and acorn bag is that? I ride smaller (54cm 
and down) frames and have trouble finding saddlebags that don't hit the 
tire without a rack or fender there to buffer.

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 9:40:14 AM UTC-7, Hudson Doerge wrote:
>
> After having my Simpleone in super commuter mode for the last couple years 
> I decided it was time to slim down for summer and set up the bike for some 
> more lightly-laden fun. Off came the medium Saddlesack and rack. On went 
> the much smaller Acorn saddlebag. I also recently switched from my trusty 
> and seriously overused Marathon Supremes to Soma C-lines, which do run a 
> bit smoother to be sure. This setup may be a little more inline with the 
> Simpleone/Quickbeam philosophy. Of course the basket stays though.
>
> -Hudson in ATX
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[RBW] Re: Clydesdale's -- Which Riv Model are you riding?

[Cecily Walker]

Not posting my weight (not because I'm embarrassed, but to keep from 
getting lots of messages about reading the "Eat Bacon" book), but I'm an 
Athena, and I ride a Betty Foy. I use a Nitto S83 seatpost, and I ride on 
38mm Soma New Express tires. No problems whatsoever, even when I was doing 
longer rides over rougher terrain. 

I know many bike manufacturers post weight limits to keep lawyers happy, 
but I think anyone who is in the 300-350lb range can safely ride a Betty, 
Cheviot or Sam. I don't think a Hunqapillar or an Atlantis is necessary, 
unless you just really want one of those models.

On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 1:26:14 PM UTC-7, DSat wrote:
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> To the riders that weigh 200 lbs or more, which Riv model are you riding?  
> I am just shy of 300, so should I consider one model over another?  I 
> assume that the wider the tires the better.
>

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