[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

[Christopher Murray]

I reread my initial post because I was confused about what was so offensive 
about it. At that point, I realized it could be interpreted to say something I 
didn’t mean. So I posted to explain what I meant and what my intentions were. 
This is the truth. You can believe what you want to believe. What you can’t do 
is tell me what I meant or what my intentions were.

For good or (more likely) bad, I read and post in the middle of a hectic day. 
Typing while going from meeting to meeting is not a best practice but it is 
reality. I will apologize that my initial post could be construed as harsh but 
I assure you that was not my intent. 

All the best,
Chris

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Re: [RBW] Bar wrap direction

[Joe Bernard]

This is super! I have some Albastaches I've been sort of avoiding wrapping for 
a while 'cause I'm generally terrible at it. I'm going to try this. 

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[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

[Joe Bernard]

Your clarification is a rewrite. You said it "wasn't right" that she didn't 
update, and "unnecessary." I'm sorry, but you can't just erase the original 
statement - which seemed bizarrely harsh to me - and pretend the current one is 
what you really meant. You can apologize and revise..that's the ticket. 

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[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

[Christopher Murray]

To clarify my original post (which upon rereading and reflection is in need of 
clarification):

I did not mean she owed anyone an explanation for her absence. Nor that she had 
an obligation to share details about herself, situation, or life she did not 
want to share. I did mean that it would have been nice to post something in May 
or June or whenever just saying she was taking a break. She had no obligation 
to do this but by July/August people were genuinely worried about her (if you 
don’t believe me do a quick google search). There were suggestions she was 
sick, caring for a sick parent, done with cycling, hurt, or just moved on to 
something else. Should I apologize that I worried about her? That after 8+ 
years of following her blog I felt a connection to her as a fellow cyclist? I 
won’t apologize for that. 

I wish her all the best. I am sure she will come through this stronger and 
wiser. That the light at the end of the tunnel is there and real and reachable. 
 

Cheers!
Chris

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Re: [RBW] Re: It looked like just a little stick...

[lum gim fong]

Pics no come thru on boss's pc or iphone5

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[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

[Jonathan D.]

I would click like on your post Patrick if it was an option. Glad she is doing 
okay and will enjoy what ever she chooses to write, though I do enjoy a good 
hear review. 

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[RBW] Re: Bikepacking with 38mm knobbies (Compass Steilacooms)

[Philip Williamson]

I wouldn't worry about it. Try it, and if you find it's not working, go 
bigger, raise the pressure, or slow down. Fixed riding kind of limits the 
amount of speed trouble you can get into, anyway. 
My rims are generally 18mm inside, with 32 spokes, and I don't have wheel 
troubles. Cliffhangers are probably overkill. Don't you already have 
wheels? The bum wheels I've had have been second-hand machine-built Deores, 
and they'd break spokes on the road. I don't generally ride with a rear 
load, though. 

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA
 

On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 4:24:15 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Seeing the loads carried by Australian sheep shearers in the late 1800’s 
> on similar width tires over likely similar roads/trails has inspired me to 
> test Compass Steilacoom 38mm tires on my fixed gear Hunqapillar for 
> bikepacking and seeing how that goes and what I learn. Any real world, 
> similar set-up experience greatly appreciated. A few data points and 
> questions experience (mine and/or yours) can/will answer: 
>
> — I’ve noted handling of the Hunqapillar is optimal with 38-44mm tires 
> compared with 2.1” tires. Tracking and smoothness of handling is noticeably 
> improved, to the point that I was considering a 650b conversion to decrease 
> wheel/tire mass yet have bigger tires until Grant laughed me to my senses. 
> — 44mm Snowqualmie (smooth) handle more poorly on the terrain I ride than 
> 38mm knobbie Steilacombs. 
> — My bikepacking load with engine, food, and water totals 250 pounds. 
> — I’m betting an increase of tire pressure by 5-7 lbs will take care of 
> the load increase and still keep the ride plush. 
> — float in sand/mud/loose gravel will be diminished, but my experience 
> with fixed and the plush Steilacooms on the Quickbeam says both factors 
> make up a lot of the ground lost by using a narrower tire. Will be 
> interesting to see. 
> — My rear wheel plan is a cliffhanger, which has an inner width of 25mm. 
> Will this work with a 38mm tire, or be too wide? 
> — I carry all non-engine weight on the rear rack, save for my water 
> bottles. 
> — I went from 50mm Schwalbe Dureme tires (beefy marathons) loaded on 
> trails, to ThunderBurts, which were a vast improvement. I’ve not tried 
> loaded on plush more narrow tires, but unloaded, the Steilacooms are far 
> superior to the Duremes and the Thunderburts in nearly all conditions. The 
> Thunderburts (and now Racing Ralphs) do better in loose sand, which isn’t a 
> huge part of what I ride). 
>
> Anything I’m missing that I ought to consider? 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick 
>
> www.CredoFamily.org 
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org

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[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

[fugd...@gmail.com]

Good for you, Patrick. Beams, indeed.

On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 2:02:35 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Uh, lads? If you can’t think of 20 life events her first paragraphs might 
> refer to, be thankful you’ve not had the challenge and suffering in your 
> own life to have a clue what she might have experienced. She is excellent 
> with words and tells us all we need to know here, if we but choose to 
> listen: 
>
> “We are all adults here. We know that 'things' - private things - happen 
> in life. And we also know that the worst things, the things that shake to 
> the core and immobilise, have that effect precisely because they happen 
> suddenly, without warning. We do not anticipate them; we have no planned 
> response or coping strategy. We do not know how we will react.“ 
>
> Off to check for beams in me own eyen noo, but uh, lads, there’s a sliver 
> in your’n. 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Bikepacking with 38mm knobbies (Compass Steilacooms)

[Deacon Patrick]

Excellent points, Daniel and Jim. Jim, there are quite a few photos of Dunlap 
tire ads in the outback in that era. I’m reading “Bicycles in the Bush” and 
“The Lost Cyclist” and the things they rode through with essentially cyclocross 
tires are amazing, and with far greater weights.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Four Senor Frank Jones left...

[Joe Bernard]

I think Riv sold a bunch of 57ish frames last year. The most popular size also 
correlates to the most customers in a certain size range fresh outta cash 
'cause they just bought a bike. 

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[RBW] Re: Four Senor Frank Jones left...

[Dave Small]

The remaining 57cm surprises me, since the 59cm sold out within seconds. 
 On the distribution curve of PBH I'd think that 57cm would be compatible 
with the peak, or at least very close to it.  

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[RBW] Re: Bikepacking with 38mm knobbies (Compass Steilacooms)

[Jim M.]

On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 4:24:15 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Seeing the loads carried by Australian sheep shearers in the late 1800’s 
> on similar width tires 

Do you know those were pneumatic tires? My guess for late 1800s Australia 
would be solid rubber, given that Dunlop started commercially producing 
pneumatic bike tires in Ireland in 1890, IIRC.

  

> — My rear wheel plan is a cliffhanger, which has an inner width of 25mm. 
> Will this work with a 38mm tire, or be too wide? 
>
Probably too wide. Here's a Mavic engineering article on tire/rim 
width: 
http://engineerstalk.mavic.com/en/the-right-tyre-width-on-the-right-rim-width/

I agree with Daniel that pinch flats are going to be a problem with a load 
and narrower tires. I don't know that tubeless would help with tires at 
that width. You can pinch a tubeless on a rock and have it burp out the 
sealant. Also, it's not just total weight but distribution of the weight. 
With all the load over the rear tire, it's going to take more of a beating 
than if the load was distributed more evenly across the bike.

Might as well try it but take extra tubes and a patch repair kit.

jim m
walnut creek, ca

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[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

[Joe Bernard]

Thank you, Patrick. It's (literally) painfully obvious that Velouria 
experienced some sort of trauma last year and is recovering from it. It's none 
of our business why she was gone, I'm just glad she's doing better. It can 
happen to anyone at any time. 

Joe Bernard
Novato CA. 

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Re: [RBW] Bar wrap direction

[René Sterental]

Thanks Ted!

Makes perfect sense. I'm not riding drop bars now, but if I ever switch
back, I'll give this a try.

René

On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 5:08 PM, RonaTD  wrote:

> René asked:
> > Just out of curiosity, when wrapping the tape this way, how do you hold
> both ends under the brake lever so they don’t unwrap?
> > And how do you ensure there are no gaps between both tapes on the
> opposite side of the lever?
>
> Good questions. I should have noted that I’m talking about standard drop
> bars and brake levers with hoods. The tape ends at the brake lever and runs
> up the side of the body. I orient the wrap direction so that the two halves
> end on each side of the lever body. If I want to ensure no gaps, I use a
> short piece of tape run at a bit of an angle from one side of the lever
> body to the other. The brake hood covers all the ends and holds them in
> place. I have also removed the brake lever body, leaving the clamp band in
> place, taped the bar, then installed the brake lever on top of the tape. It
> only works with thin tape, and some levers make that easier than others.
> If you don’t have hoods on the brake levers, you could try that.
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI USA
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[RBW] Re: Bikepacking with 38mm knobbies (Compass Steilacooms)

[Daniel Jackson]

Two risks come to mind:

1. Pinch flats. This will be mitigated a bit by increasing your tire 
pressure but offroading with that much weight on a 38mm tire might just 
warrant exploration into tubeless territory. 

2. Your rims will take more of a beating.with the narrower tire. I'd 
recommend extra spokes and tools for their installation in your kit. 

Best,
D.

On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 7:24:15 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Seeing the loads carried by Australian sheep shearers in the late 1800’s 
> on similar width tires over likely similar roads/trails has inspired me to 
> test Compass Steilacoom 38mm tires on my fixed gear Hunqapillar for 
> bikepacking and seeing how that goes and what I learn. Any real world, 
> similar set-up experience greatly appreciated. A few data points and 
> questions experience (mine and/or yours) can/will answer: 
>
> — I’ve noted handling of the Hunqapillar is optimal with 38-44mm tires 
> compared with 2.1” tires. Tracking and smoothness of handling is noticeably 
> improved, to the point that I was considering a 650b conversion to decrease 
> wheel/tire mass yet have bigger tires until Grant laughed me to my senses. 
> — 44mm Snowqualmie (smooth) handle more poorly on the terrain I ride than 
> 38mm knobbie Steilacombs. 
> — My bikepacking load with engine, food, and water totals 250 pounds. 
> — I’m betting an increase of tire pressure by 5-7 lbs will take care of 
> the load increase and still keep the ride plush. 
> — float in sand/mud/loose gravel will be diminished, but my experience 
> with fixed and the plush Steilacooms on the Quickbeam says both factors 
> make up a lot of the ground lost by using a narrower tire. Will be 
> interesting to see. 
> — My rear wheel plan is a cliffhanger, which has an inner width of 25mm. 
> Will this work with a 38mm tire, or be too wide? 
> — I carry all non-engine weight on the rear rack, save for my water 
> bottles. 
> — I went from 50mm Schwalbe Dureme tires (beefy marathons) loaded on 
> trails, to ThunderBurts, which were a vast improvement. I’ve not tried 
> loaded on plush more narrow tires, but unloaded, the Steilacooms are far 
> superior to the Duremes and the Thunderburts in nearly all conditions. The 
> Thunderburts (and now Racing Ralphs) do better in loose sand, which isn’t a 
> huge part of what I ride). 
>
> Anything I’m missing that I ought to consider? 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick 
>
> www.CredoFamily.org 
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org

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[RBW] Four Senor Frank Jones left...

[Bill Lindsay]

Doing the old inventory probing trick, I was able to put four Senor Frank 
Joneses in my cart:

2 53cm Blue
1 53cm Grilver
1 57cm Grilver

Everything else is sold out.  That's pretty good for them that they could 
get most of them pre-sold.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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[RBW] 62 Appaloosa rider with 90 PBH?

[Deacon Patrick]

I’m not sure the geometry comparison, but my 90pbh is perfectly happy on my 62 
Hunqapillar and 66 Quickbeam (which are the equivilant sizes). Riding with a 
mid-foot pedal position, my seat is set pretty low (lower than it was when I 
started out, with forefoot pedaling), my stem short and low. Looks a lot like 
the bikes of old (and I wonder if that large size contributes to the stability 
I experience riding). Works great for me on all roads and trails, go fast or 
bikepacking or grocery running.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Bikepacking with 38mm knobbies (Compass Steilacooms)

[Deacon Patrick]

Seeing the loads carried by Australian sheep shearers in the late 1800’s on 
similar width tires over likely similar roads/trails has inspired me to test 
Compass Steilacoom 38mm tires on my fixed gear Hunqapillar for bikepacking and 
seeing how that goes and what I learn. Any real world, similar set-up 
experience greatly appreciated. A few data points and questions experience 
(mine and/or yours) can/will answer:

— I’ve noted handling of the Hunqapillar is optimal with 38-44mm tires compared 
with 2.1” tires. Tracking and smoothness of handling is noticeably improved, to 
the point that I was considering a 650b conversion to decrease wheel/tire mass 
yet have bigger tires until Grant laughed me to my senses.
— 44mm Snowqualmie (smooth) handle more poorly on the terrain I ride than 38mm 
knobbie Steilacombs. 
— My bikepacking load with engine, food, and water totals 250 pounds.
— I’m betting an increase of tire pressure by 5-7 lbs will take care of the 
load increase and still keep the ride plush.
— float in sand/mud/loose gravel will be diminished, but my experience with 
fixed and the plush Steilacooms on the Quickbeam says both factors make up a 
lot of the ground lost by using a narrower tire. Will be interesting to see.
— My rear wheel plan is a cliffhanger, which has an inner width of 25mm. Will 
this work with a 38mm tire, or be too wide?
— I carry all non-engine weight on the rear rack, save for my water bottles.
— I went from 50mm Schwalbe Dureme tires (beefy marathons) loaded on trails, to 
ThunderBurts, which were a vast improvement. I’ve not tried loaded on plush 
more narrow tires, but unloaded, the Steilacooms are far superior to the 
Duremes and the Thunderburts in nearly all conditions. The Thunderburts (and 
now Racing Ralphs) do better in loose sand, which isn’t a huge part of what I 
ride).

Anything I’m missing that I ought to consider?

With abandon,
Patrick

www.CredoFamily.org
www.MindYourHeadCoop.org

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[RBW] Re: 62 Appaloosa rider with 90 PBH?

[Tom Horton]

tom, I am happily riding a 62 appaloosa and my pbh is around 100 (6-5, 36 
inseam pants). I found the choco moose that came with it squished me up way 
too much, but with a nitto noodle bar and nitto technomic stem of about 
120? mm, I'm happy as can be.happy to answer any questions that I can.  
btw I also happily ride 68 qbeam and 68 atlantis frames,tom

On Tuesday, December 26, 2017 at 5:51:58 PM UTC-5, tc wrote:
>
> Did I remember correctly that someone in the Bunch with a 90 PBH rides a 
> 62 Joe with Albatross or choco moose bars?  I know the 62 is rated for PBH 
> of 89 and up but thought someone here actually does it. I had a few q’s if 
> so... 
>
> Tom

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[RBW] Re: A Homer Hilsen vs LHT - Will I notice a difference?

[geontemt]

I live in Capital Hill and have a 58cm Sam with drops if you want to try it 
out.  We can meet up and go for a ride.  I have used it to commute ~7 miles 
for the past 2 years and I love it.  

On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 10:36:59 PM UTC-8, Drew Henson wrote:
>
> Thanks for the input everyone,. I am in the Seattle area, and my goals 
> this year are to do more gravel riding and to complete the Seattle to 
> Portland ride.  My primary use, however, is a 9 mile commute (with some 
> decent climbs in parts) with the previously mentioned 10-15 lbs.  I'm 
> really looking for a bike to tackle the commute but also be able to handle 
> the Seattle to Portland ride (another bike will be my gravel bike). Seems 
> like the AHH is probably the best Riv to handle that I just wanted some 
> opinions over the difference over the LHT.  With the LHT i definitely 
> notice the weight on my commute and I want something snappier.
>
> On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 3:05:29 PM UTC-8, Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>> Hi Drew,
>>
>> I don't have time to read through all the responses but I have had a AHH 
>> and now have a LHT. Yes there is a difference. The AHH will be a snappier 
>> than the LHT. I always do things backwards :) What I like about the LHT is 
>> the 1 1/8 threadless stem. If I ever do a long loaded tour then I have a 
>> bike that costs much less so less money hanging in the garage. My brother 
>> owned a Sam and it's nice. Not as snappy as a AHH but a great bike 
>> nonetheless. Maybe consider one of the other bikes Riv is making now. 
>> Anyway enjoy the process.
>>
>> ~hugh
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 10:36:07 PM UTC-8, Drew Henson wrote:
>>>
>>> Are there any surly LHT owners that also have an A Homer Hilsen? I'm 
>>> curious how the ride really differs, in practical terms.  I currently own 
>>> an LHT and it's been a great bike, but it's "too much" bike for me.  I'm 
>>> looking for something that would be snappier than the LHT but still able to 
>>> carry a 10-15 lb commuting load.  I've liked to looks of an AHH for a long 
>>> time but am concerned that I'd be trading one heavy steel bike for another, 
>>> without much difference in the ride when it comes down to it. 
>>>
>>> Then there's the AHH vs Sam Hilborne debate I guess, which Rivendell 
>>> brought up themselves when I emailed asking about AHH availability..  So if 
>>> you've owned a Sam and an LHT I'd be interested in your experience as well.
>>>
>>> I've browsed this use group a bunch but this is my first post, so thanks 
>>> in advance for any info! 
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Rene Herse "went to go-fast 700c rando machines many years ago for a good reason"?

[lum gim fong]

I read a book about living on your bike and the guy said one can ride on 
the top tube and put one foot down on the ice for balance while riding on 
icy streets.

But I won't ride on wet roads below 35F for fear of an icy crash.
I crashed in dry warm weather going about 5mph on a sidewalk and broke me 
arm fall 2016. So I definitely won't ride in icy conditions.



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[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

[Christopher Murray]

Your self-righteous, smug response proves my point. So I thank you.

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[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

[Deacon Patrick]

Och! Christopher. Me thinks yer looking for injury if “lads” in a cycling group 
is insulting. We’re all lads and lassies ‘er, aye? As for the rest, your 
response if better proof of my point, which I’d thought you’d missed, than I 
could have made meself. I thank you.

With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

[Christopher Murray]

Patrick,

I can guarantee I can think of the life events the first paragraph may refer 
to. That you imply otherwise is insulting. To use the terms “lads” to imply 
I/we are young, inexperienced, or have not experienced the extreme challenges 
life can bring is also insulting. 

Chris 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

[David Hays]

Thank you Deacon for adding this.
David

> On Jan 4, 2018, at 5:02 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
> 
> Uh, lads? If you can’t think of 20 life events her first paragraphs might 
> refer to, be thankful you’ve not had the challenge and suffering in your own 
> life to have a clue what she might have experienced. She is excellent with 
> words and tells us all we need to know here, if we but choose to listen:
> 
> “We are all adults here. We know that 'things' - private things - happen in 
> life. And we also know that the worst things, the things that shake to the 
> core and immobilise, have that effect precisely because they happen suddenly, 
> without warning. We do not anticipate them; we have no planned response or 
> coping strategy. We do not know how we will react.“
> 
> Off to check for beams in me own eyen noo, but uh, lads, there’s a sliver in 
> your’n.
> 
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

[Deacon Patrick]

Uh, lads? If you can’t think of 20 life events her first paragraphs might refer 
to, be thankful you’ve not had the challenge and suffering in your own life to 
have a clue what she might have experienced. She is excellent with words and 
tells us all we need to know here, if we but choose to listen:

“We are all adults here. We know that 'things' - private things - happen in 
life. And we also know that the worst things, the things that shake to the core 
and immobilise, have that effect precisely because they happen suddenly, 
without warning. We do not anticipate them; we have no planned response or 
coping strategy. We do not know how we will react.“

Off to check for beams in me own eyen noo, but uh, lads, there’s a sliver in 
your’n.

With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse "went to go-fast 700c rando machines many years ago for a good reason"?

[Adam Kilgas]

I've found that to be true in my case as well; I commuted for several years 
year-round on 25's and 28's here in Indiana, and on most types of snow, the 
narrower tire would cut through it and find some traction.  

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[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

[Christopher Murray]

Happy to hear she is well but I don’t think it is right to just stop writing 
with no explanation. She is, of course, free to do as she wishes but not 
updating for 8 months with no explanation seems unnecessary (especially as she 
was updating her knitting blog). I have enjoyed her blog over the years but I 
don’t see myself going back to being a regular reader or at all to be honest.  
I do wish her well. 

Cheers!
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell shipping: exceptional!

[Andy Beichler]

I'll chime with a second. I ordered some bar tape from them. My post office 
screwed up and ordered it returned to sender.  As soon as I saw that online 
I emailed Riv.  They were back in touch within a few minutes and shipped me 
a new package that day.  I know that cost them some shipping money, but it 
made me a more loyal customer.

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[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

[masmojo]

Quite glad she's back, I was afraid I or somebody else had put her off after 
her last post on geometry, Modern vs. Classic with contentious comments. I 
reached out to inquire about her wellbeing, but got no reply. If you read her 
blog frequently you could probably gather that she is a very sensitive person 
and maybe takes things a bit personally.  I sort of feel like maybe the 
obligation to fill up a blog with new content was a little taxing and things 
all came to a head?
It's a bit funny, because I came very close to deleting the link around 
Christmas.
In any case I think she'll be happier if she treats the bike blog with the same 
level of seriousness as her knitting blog.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse "went to go-fast 700c rando machines many years ago for a good reason"?

[Patrick Moore]

Interesting. 30+ years ago when I lived and worked in downtown WDC, the
bike messengers who braved the snow as often as not did so on racing bikes
with skinny, 23 mm at most, tires.

On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 9:27 AM, Philip Kim  wrote:

> also to note, had a friend in chicago who rode 622x28 tires on his snow
> beater bike. claimed they cut through the snow rather than riding on top of
> it. never did that myself.
>
>
> On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 11:26:32 AM UTC-5, Philip Kim wrote:
>>
>> studded knobs aren't for me. the pumpkin ridge bite into powdered snow on
>> the road really well, and then shed that snow off the tire very well. so
>> the tire actually will rotate in the snow, instead of spinning and digging
>> deeper into the snow with no movement.
>>
>> i didn't really expect much, but its pretty amazing really. Like Deacon,
>> I too, ride slow and steady and have to vary my pedaling a bit. I've been
>> looking for some snow tires too, just surprised that a "smaller" tire works
>> so well. Studded tires have its uses, but i'd rather ride these pumpkin
>> ridges and ride slower/more careful than ride with such heavy tires, with
>> studs that wear out so quickly considering how expensive they are.
>>
>> I am of the belief I should be riding more alert and careful in any
>> inclement weather anyways.
>>
>> On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 10:20:56 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> On/in/through slush, slop, and frozen peanut butter, my Steilacoms are
>>> superior to my racing ralphs, which tend to be more swimmy. I’m not sure
>>> how much is due to narrower tire (38mm v. 2.1”) and how much is knobby
>>> pattern and/or plushness of tires. The Compass tread patters sheds matter
>>> with each tire rotation better than any other knobby I’ve used, so it has a
>>> fresher, cleaner pattern to dig in far more often. (Peanut butter slop and
>>> mud being the exception to this. They are glue.)  But slush, slop, and
>>> frozen peanut butter are perhaps the most challenging to ride through of
>>> cold weather conditions. It’s as much about technique as any other factor.
>>> Good tires without technique will be very frustrating until you learn. Play
>>> with what works, but I find slow and steady speed and pedaling works very
>>> well (and far more so fixed).
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
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Re: [RBW] Know Anybody in Lake Nacimiento?

[Jim M.]

There's also https://www.warmshowers.org/ , which is dedicated to 
bicyclists.

On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 9:05:06 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Thanks! I’ll give it a look.
>
> --Eric N
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>
> On Jan 4, 2018, at 6:52 AM, Ray Varella > 
> wrote:
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> I don’t know anyone Eric but a friend of mine has used a site called “
> couchsurfing.com” and has had nothing but positive experiences. 
>
> Ray
> Vallejo CA
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[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

[Bob Lovejoy]

Hi Richard, 

Yes, it certainly caught my attention that she had been drawn back to film 
(versus digital).  And, yes, that does remind us of people (someone!?) 
possibly close by.  I don't believe it is just nostalgia, but I used to be 
very interested in photography when younger, with a small darkroom set-up 
in a closet, a Gralab timer in the semi-dakness, it all feeling like 
genuine creativity and discovery.  Once digital seemed to take over, it 
lost its charm, a push of a computer button to make the picture look as the 
computer thought it should, a hundred shots taken instead of a few, the 
deletion as instant as the creation.  The computer was probably right, but 
I just did not care... I think it is so cool that people are reclaiming 
things and ways they love, whether they make modern sense or not.  

I was just glad to hear she was ok...!  And people who ride their bikes 
because they love to, and live their lives simply and consciously, are to 
be remembered and valued.

Here's to finding our way this new year...  I might even go find an old 
Minolta SRT-101 or something, maybe an old rangefinder... well, just 
because... :>)

Best to you,

Bob


On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 11:56:47 AM UTC-6, RichS wrote:
>
> Bob, 
>
> Thanks for posting this. Happy to see her back. I missed reading about her 
> riding experiences. 
>
> Interesting that she says she will be using film in her cameras. Does that 
> sound familiar?
>
> Best regards,
> Richard 
>
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[RBW] Re: T.O.M. How'd your Rambouillet turn out?

[RichS]

That is a crazy pretty frame! Please post a pic when you get it built. 
Nicely done and congratulations. 

Best, 
Richard



On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 3:27:44 PM UTC-5, George Schick wrote:
>
> Man, that looks great.  Funny, just the other day while I was doing some 
> off-season maintenance work on my Ram I  looked at the frame thinking that 
> it sure would be nice to have the lugs outlined in a contrasting color. 
>  But this additional pin stripe job is over the top.  I sure don't have the 
> skills to do it.
>
> On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 1:37:26 PM UTC-6, T.O.M. wrote:
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 16, 2016 at 12:41:12 PM UTC-7, lum gim fong wrote:
>>>
>>> Just wondering how it turned out and if you have any pics. Searched the 
>>> forum but didn't see anything.
>>
>>
>> So,  lum gim fong's inquiry got me motivated to have the frame chased & 
>> faced, headset/fork installed.  One step closer to build!  Thanks lgf.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

[RichS]

Bob, 

Thanks for posting this. Happy to see her back. I missed reading about her 
riding experiences. 

Interesting that she says she will be using film in her cameras. Does that 
sound familiar?

Best regards,
Richard 

On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 11:04:06 AM UTC-5, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
>
> Sorry - and glad! - to resurrect this particular post... 
>
> http://lovelybike.blogspot.com
>
> An update from Velouria... nothing earth shattering but very real, very 
> grounded, and made me nod in agreement and smile.
>
> To a great 2018 for all,
>
> Bob L.
> Galesburg, IL
>
>
> On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 4:11:11 PM UTC-5, masmojo wrote:
>>
>> Anyone have any idea what Velouria on rge Lovely Bike blogs status is? 
>> The blog hasn't been updated in about 10 weeks; which is unusual. Maybe 
>> she's taking a hiatus, on vacation or something, but it seems to have 
>> halted rather suddenly with no warning. 
>> I hope she's OK!? 
>
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[RBW] Rivendell shipping: exceptional!

[Neil Doran]

We all know the Riv folks are Jedi box packers, but I have to send a 
shout-out to the gang regarding shipping speed. I placed a small order 
yesterday at about 3 PM. Twenty minutes later, the order had shipped, and 
is now out on the brown truck for delivery! Granted, I only live 100 miles 
from Riv HQ, but that is exceptional service, especially with free 
shipping. It is this level of service that keeps me off of Amazon.

Well, that, and where else will I find pine tar soap, a cup of beeswax, and 
an SKS fender stay kit, all from the same supplier? Only at Riv...

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Re: [RBW] Re: It looked like just a little stick...

[Eric Floden]

FYI pics came through first time on w android machines...

EricF
Ottawa On
Where they say wind chill will be below -30C

On Jan 4, 2018 12:08, "Jim M."  wrote:

Photo links:
*Bent hanger

*
Not 90 degrees but bent further than I would have expected, and I did have
to walk this home.

*Pre-bent bike
*

I use Google Photos so I'd think they would work in Google groups.

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[RBW] Re: It looked like just a little stick...

[Jim M.]

Photo links:
*Bent hanger 

 *  
Not 90 degrees but bent further than I would have expected, and I did have 
to walk this home.

*Pre-bent bike 
*

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Re: [RBW] Know Anybody in Lake Nacimiento?

[Eric Norris]

Thanks! I’ll give it a look.

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> 
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[RBW] Re: Rene Herse "went to go-fast 700c rando machines many years ago for a good reason"?

[Philip Kim]

also to note, had a friend in chicago who rode 622x28 tires on his snow 
beater bike. claimed they cut through the snow rather than riding on top of 
it. never did that myself.

On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 11:26:32 AM UTC-5, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> studded knobs aren't for me. the pumpkin ridge bite into powdered snow on 
> the road really well, and then shed that snow off the tire very well. so 
> the tire actually will rotate in the snow, instead of spinning and digging 
> deeper into the snow with no movement.
>
> i didn't really expect much, but its pretty amazing really. Like Deacon, I 
> too, ride slow and steady and have to vary my pedaling a bit. I've been 
> looking for some snow tires too, just surprised that a "smaller" tire works 
> so well. Studded tires have its uses, but i'd rather ride these pumpkin 
> ridges and ride slower/more careful than ride with such heavy tires, with 
> studs that wear out so quickly considering how expensive they are. 
>
> I am of the belief I should be riding more alert and careful in any 
> inclement weather anyways.
>
> On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 10:20:56 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> On/in/through slush, slop, and frozen peanut butter, my Steilacoms are 
>> superior to my racing ralphs, which tend to be more swimmy. I’m not sure 
>> how much is due to narrower tire (38mm v. 2.1”) and how much is knobby 
>> pattern and/or plushness of tires. The Compass tread patters sheds matter 
>> with each tire rotation better than any other knobby I’ve used, so it has a 
>> fresher, cleaner pattern to dig in far more often. (Peanut butter slop and 
>> mud being the exception to this. They are glue.)  But slush, slop, and 
>> frozen peanut butter are perhaps the most challenging to ride through of 
>> cold weather conditions. It’s as much about technique as any other factor. 
>> Good tires without technique will be very frustrating until you learn. Play 
>> with what works, but I find slow and steady speed and pedaling works very 
>> well (and far more so fixed). 
>>
>> With abandon, 
>> Patrick
>
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[RBW] Re: Rene Herse "went to go-fast 700c rando machines many years ago for a good reason"?

[Philip Kim]

studded knobs aren't for me. the pumpkin ridge bite into powdered snow on 
the road really well, and then shed that snow off the tire very well. so 
the tire actually will rotate in the snow, instead of spinning and digging 
deeper into the snow with no movement.

i didn't really expect much, but its pretty amazing really. Like Deacon, I 
too, ride slow and steady and have to vary my pedaling a bit. I've been 
looking for some snow tires too, just surprised that a "smaller" tire works 
so well. Studded tires have its uses, but i'd rather ride these pumpkin 
ridges and ride slower/more careful than ride with such heavy tires, with 
studs that wear out so quickly considering how expensive they are. 

I am of the belief I should be riding more alert and careful in any 
inclement weather anyways.

On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 10:20:56 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> On/in/through slush, slop, and frozen peanut butter, my Steilacoms are 
> superior to my racing ralphs, which tend to be more swimmy. I’m not sure 
> how much is due to narrower tire (38mm v. 2.1”) and how much is knobby 
> pattern and/or plushness of tires. The Compass tread patters sheds matter 
> with each tire rotation better than any other knobby I’ve used, so it has a 
> fresher, cleaner pattern to dig in far more often. (Peanut butter slop and 
> mud being the exception to this. They are glue.)  But slush, slop, and 
> frozen peanut butter are perhaps the most challenging to ride through of 
> cold weather conditions. It’s as much about technique as any other factor. 
> Good tires without technique will be very frustrating until you learn. Play 
> with what works, but I find slow and steady speed and pedaling works very 
> well (and far more so fixed). 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Rene Herse "went to go-fast 700c rando machines many years ago for a good reason"?

[Deacon Patrick]

On/in/through slush, slop, and frozen peanut butter, my Steilacoms are superior 
to my racing ralphs, which tend to be more swimmy. I’m not sure how much is due 
to narrower tire (38mm v. 2.1”) and how much is knobby pattern and/or plushness 
of tires. The Compass tread patters sheds matter with each tire rotation better 
than any other knobby I’ve used, so it has a fresher, cleaner pattern to dig in 
far more often. (Peanut butter slop and mud being the exception to this. They 
are glue.)  But slush, slop, and frozen peanut butter are perhaps the most 
challenging to ride through of cold weather conditions. It’s as much about 
technique as any other factor. Good tires without technique will be very 
frustrating until you learn. Play with what works, but I find slow and steady 
speed and pedaling works very well (and far more so fixed).

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Rene Herse "went to go-fast 700c rando machines many years ago for a good reason"?

[Belopsky]

How do they ride on slush? Even my studded knobs are terrible
On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 8:37:18 AM UTC-5, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> yep. snowed last night and they ride so well on fresh snow on the streets. 
> i've always wanted a knobby like this for 650bx42. i'm glad i picked these 
> up.
>
> On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 9:37:51 PM UTC-5, Jan Heine wrote:
>>
>> Patrick,
>>
>> I am currently riding a bike with the knobby Pumpkin Ridge 650B x 42s 
>> here in Japan (check both the @compasscycle and @bikequarterly Instagram 
>> for some photos). I love the tires for the rides we are doing here in the 
>> winter. Of course, we have to weigh the issues of mold costs and the need 
>> to keep all these different products in stock, but your dream tire and mine 
>> aren't very far apart...
>>
>> Jan Heine
>> Founder
>> Compass Cycles
>> www.compasscycle.com
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 11:26:15 AM UTC+9, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> Jan, Since you’re “on the line,” I noticed you have been testing 
>>> bikepacking rigs including with wider tires. Do you have any plans for 
>>> supple, 2.1” or wider 700c tires, including nobbies? Your Steilacoms are 
>>> brilliant in snow and gravel/sand and do amazingly well on pavement. I’d 
>>> love a bikepacking tike for my 700c Hunqapillar. Grin. I understand that 
>>> for much of the riding you do, the tires sizes you have for various wheel 
>>> sizes make perfect sense, but there is certainly a market for wider tires 
>>> in 700c and different types of riding. 
>>>
>>> With abandon, 
>>> Patrick
>>
>>

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[RBW] Know Anybody in Lake Nacimiento?

[Ray Varella]

I don’t know anyone Eric but a friend of mine has used a site called 
“couchsurfing.com” and has had nothing but positive experiences. 

Ray
Vallejo CA

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[RBW] Re: ENO eccentric rear hub

[tc]

Thanks all - really helpful.   Sounds straightforward enough to me.  Now if 
I could just find a company that makes nice frames to try it out on...

Tom

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Re: [RBW] It looked like just a little stick...

[Tim Gavin]

Yep, no photos.

I lost a vintage Deore XT M730 derailleur once to a power line flag marker
(the ones on a small wire, stuck into the ground).  The wire managed to
insert itself into a chain link as I rode by, which then jammed the chain
in the deraileur, which swung up and broke right through the upper knuckle
casting.  It took a couple spokes with it in its death throes, but it broke
before it bent the derailleur hanger on the frame.

It's too bad, because that derailleur probably had 30 more years of service
life left in it!

On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 11:33 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> No photos came through.
>
> I busted a very nice Microshift road rd on the Fargo thanks to a stick;
> not only shattered the cage, but bent the hangar inward fully 90*, so
> couldn't remove the rd and singlespeed home; had to walk. Bike shop fixed
> the hangar, but the MS rd was beyond redemption. Sad, because of all the
> rds I've used, this was the very nicest shifting bar none, and put to shame
> the 7410 that replaced it (I use the 7410 because it's cool on a dirt bike,
> and contrary in a perverse sort of way -- actually, the 7410 shifts 14-27
> just fine, but requires a bit more learning the technique; the MS was just
> plain easy).
>
> On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 8:25 PM, Jim M.  wrote:
>
>> But it bent the der hanger pretty badly. WIped out the nice XT derailer,
>> and broke a couple of spokes. Well, this will motivate me to strip down the
>> bike and finally get it painted or have the clearcoat renewed.
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Here it is in it's beausaged glory:
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> happy trails!
>>
>> jim m
>>
>> walnut creek, ca
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[RBW] Re: Rene Herse "went to go-fast 700c rando machines many years ago for a good reason"?

[Philip Kim]

yep. snowed last night and they ride so well on fresh snow on the streets. 
i've always wanted a knobby like this for 650bx42. i'm glad i picked these 
up.

On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 9:37:51 PM UTC-5, Jan Heine wrote:
>
> Patrick,
>
> I am currently riding a bike with the knobby Pumpkin Ridge 650B x 42s here 
> in Japan (check both the @compasscycle and @bikequarterly Instagram for 
> some photos). I love the tires for the rides we are doing here in the 
> winter. Of course, we have to weigh the issues of mold costs and the need 
> to keep all these different products in stock, but your dream tire and mine 
> aren't very far apart...
>
> Jan Heine
> Founder
> Compass Cycles
> www.compasscycle.com
>
>
> On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 11:26:15 AM UTC+9, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Jan, Since you’re “on the line,” I noticed you have been testing 
>> bikepacking rigs including with wider tires. Do you have any plans for 
>> supple, 2.1” or wider 700c tires, including nobbies? Your Steilacoms are 
>> brilliant in snow and gravel/sand and do amazingly well on pavement. I’d 
>> love a bikepacking tike for my 700c Hunqapillar. Grin. I understand that 
>> for much of the riding you do, the tires sizes you have for various wheel 
>> sizes make perfect sense, but there is certainly a market for wider tires 
>> in 700c and different types of riding. 
>>
>> With abandon, 
>> Patrick
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

[Marc Irwin]

Thanks for the post BOB glad to hear she is back more or less and OK.  Also 
good to hear from an RBW fan from my home town.  GHS Clas of '70 here. 


Marc

On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 11:04:06 AM UTC-5, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
>
> Sorry - and glad! - to resurrect this particular post... 
>
> http://lovelybike.blogspot.com
>
> An update from Velouria... nothing earth shattering but very real, very 
> grounded, and made me nod in agreement and smile.
>
> To a great 2018 for all,
>
> Bob L.
> Galesburg, IL
>
>
> On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 4:11:11 PM UTC-5, masmojo wrote:
>>
>> Anyone have any idea what Velouria on rge Lovely Bike blogs status is? 
>> The blog hasn't been updated in about 10 weeks; which is unusual. Maybe 
>> she's taking a hiatus, on vacation or something, but it seems to have 
>> halted rather suddenly with no warning. 
>> I hope she's OK!? 
>
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