Re: [RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

[Doug Hansford]

I say just ride. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2018, at 11:43 PM, M Talley  wrote:
> 
> Interesting. I see the curved second top tube of the new Atlantis inverted 
> here. Though probably thicker walled for this application. It reminds me how 
> now I see bicycle design in terms of palettes of tube selections. After 
> looking over what some of the new models out from Surly, All City and Salsa - 
> specifically the models able to accept wide tire like this Hill bike - I 
> thought these separate brands must share. To have a heavily shaped tube made 
> and have it make sense by scales of economy the other two brands might look 
> at it as a piece to add to a new model. Just guessing.
> 
>> On Friday, September 14, 2018 at 11:43:49 PM UTC-4, Collin A wrote:
>> Looks different, as all rivendell bikes do. It'll be interesting to see how 
>> it rides and what the bike industry will think of it at the trade show.
>> 
>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/all-about-ebikes
>> 
>> Happy Saturday riding everyone,
>> Collin
>> 
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Introduction from RBW fans in NZ

[Ed Fausto]

Hi Chris,
Congratulations on your new Hunqapillar!
I am sure you will enjoy your new bike.
Yes, please do report back with pictures :-)

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 6:42 AM, Chris in NZ  wrote:

> Hello everybody
>
> I’ve been a member of this forum for a while but haven’t had much to
> contribute so far aside from the odd comment on a couple of threads.
> However, I thought I would introduce myself in anticipation of a post in
> the coming weeks once I assemble a couple of dream bikes (Hunqapillars for
> myself and my partner!)
>
>  My partner and I live in Dunedin, New Zealand, and we are avid
> commuter/utility riders as well as occasional cycle tourists. We currently
> ride LHTs, have recently bought for short trips and we have a beautiful
> sage Hubbuhubbuh.
>
> I had my adult rediscovery of bikes a few years ago when I quit what I was
> doing, bought the LHT and spent four months touring NZ. During that tour I
> met a guy riding a bike unlike any I had seen at that point, and until I
> saw that it had modern Shimano components, I believed must have been a
> relic.. What really made an impression on me was that he seemed to glide
> along the road rather than ride and couldn’t believe riding a bike could be
> so joyous (as much as I enjoyed riding my LHT). I wrote down the word
> “Atlantis”, and when I finally had a chance to google it, I fell headlong
> into the Rivendell universe! I found out recently from an old blug that
> this was Caddie Mike  - if you’re on here Mike, thanks!
>
> I met my partner shortly after I finished that tour and indoctrinated her
> into cycling for fun and utility, eventually built her a LHT also, and we
> both ended up with Albatross bars and a longing for a Rivendell bike...
> We thought the HHH might sate us but ultimately we both needed singles
> too! We pushed the button on two Hunqs in January and just received them.
> Once I’ve got them assembled I’ll report back...
>
> Chris
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[RBW] Re: Shimano cantilever brakes (CX-70/50) link wire question

[Kalmia Vt]

95 mm on my CX-50s.

On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 3:03:29 PM UTC-4, Jeffrey B wrote:
>
> Please help! I'm setting up a set of new CX-70 brakes on my Sam Hillborne 
> and can't find the link wires. I called Riv but they don't have 
> replacements. Would anyone be willing to measure the length of their 
> CX-70/50 link wire for me (center to center) so I know which replacement 
> unit link to order? Or, if you have these link wires that you don't use I 
> would pay to help clean out your parts bin :)
>
> Thanks all! 
> Jeff
>

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[RBW] Billie Bar vs. Jones Loop H-Bar

[Jake P]

In the most perfectly 'Grant' fashion, the dimension descriptions of the Billie 
are more about ~feel~ than anything else. Which I really appreciate, but I've 
never ridden an Alba so I don't have much of a starting point to base his 
descriptions on. 

Can anybody who's ridden both a Jones Loop H-Bar and a Billie comment on the 
ride quality/ ~feel~ differences between the two?

If anybody has both bars and can photograph them on top of each other to show 
differences in the dimensions (grip area length, bar angle, width etc) I would 
be greatly appreciative as well!!! Thnx

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[RBW] Re: Heron again

[LeRoy]

You're very fortunate to have found your (s)old bike in good condition. 
Although it's another form of two-wheeled transportation, I had always 
regretted selling a certain Norton Commando motorcycle. So I tracked down 
the buyer. The good news: he still had the bike *and* it was for sale. The 
bad news: it now had a naked lady mural on the gas tank, extended forks and 
other distasteful modifications. It was no longer of interest to me. Years 
later, I still shed a tear for that bike.

LeRoy (who still hasn't gotten over it)


On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 11:54:58 AM UTC-4, twowheeledtexan wrote:
>
> Ever sell a bike and regret it? Ever stumble upon it again on Craigslist 
> and buy it back? That's exactly what happened with my Heron touring that I 
> just got back yesterday from the same person I sold it to. Hasn't changed a 
> bit other than saddle and bar tape. Still has the great ride that was my 
> main reason for regretting selling it. Looking forward to putting many more 
> miles on it!
>
>

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[RBW] WTB: Completely knackered Brooks B68 (Going to try re-hanging a leather top)

[LeRoy]

Has anyone tried re-hanging (that's the term used in the two links 
referenced below) a new leather top on a saddle that's completely shot? I 
came across an eBay auction for new saddle leather die-cut to the 
dimensions necessary to rebuild various Brooks saddles. As I've grown fond 
of the Brooks B68 on my Clem, I though I might give rebuilding an old 
saddle a try. Thus my plea:

*Who has a worn out, tired old B68 for sale? * I'm your buyer.

If I come across one, I'll post my rebuilding and riding experience. It may 
be useful; it may be a waste of time. Here are link to the auction and the 
website of the purveyor of replacement leather saddle tops.I'd welcome your 
thoughts and related experiences.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/153149535312

www.Obsidianmonarch.com

Thanks in advance,

LeRoy

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[RBW] Re: Northeast Riv Unmeeting 2018, Interest/Headcount, Columbus Day Weekend

[Dwight Fischer]

Hi all, maybe I missed it, but does someone have contact information on the 
Y camp to reserve a cabin?
Thanks
Dwight onna Homer


On Friday, 7 September 2018 16:00:03 UTC-4, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus 
Bicycles wrote:

> Hi Marc!
> Yeah it's a bit antiquatedthe way I did it is I called first to see if 
> the cabin I wanted was availablethey reserve it for you and direct you 
> to fill out the formthen you send the form and paymentand they 
> respond with final confirmation.
>
> It's a very easy process  
>

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[RBW] Re: Berthoud fender installation questions

['Tom Matchak' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi All,

Lots of useful information being traded here. I see that, when trying to 
squeeze out the last bit of clearance under the fork crown, there's no love 
for the traditional daruma bolt/nut. I'd like to suggest taking a look at 
the PlugNut fender mount, which lets you create a flush-mount, centered, 
female M5 boss in the bottom of the steerer tube. Simple to install, 
secure, and designed to be compatible with brakes and racks that use the 
crown's center-mount hole.

[image: PlugNut drilled for centermount brake or rack.jpg]


The hex head machine bolt and thin washer that are used to attach the 
fender together create the least protrusion into that precious gap between 
tire and fender, and you could probably thin out the bolt head if you're so 
inclined. And, as opposed to the large dimple typically created to work 
with the daruma's big ole hole cover, the PlugNut works with a small, 
shallow dimple, which also helps out in the clearance department.

The PlugNut is available now in the Velo Lumino web store. 
(www.velolumino.com) On the product page, you'll find links to an 
installation video, and to a cool clip of a destructive test showing how 
secure the PlugNut really is.

Thanks for taking a look.

Tom Matchak
Glen, NH

(Disclosure: I have a commercial interest in the PlugNut fender mount.)
On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 9:54:06 AM UTC-4, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> Thinking of putting Berthouds on the Rambouillet for winter riding. But 
> have a couple questions. Let me know what you think based on your Berthoud 
> experiences, please.:
>
> 1. It is a 650b converted Ram with 42mm tires. Should I use 650b fenders 
> or 700c since this is a 700c bike frame? I like tons of clearance, so if 
> the fenders are too far away from tires, that suits me fine.
>
> 2. How do I pinch these 50mm Berthoud stainless fenders to fit into the 
> chainstays near the chainstay bridge? I know you can cut or mold aluminum 
> fenders to do this, but these Bertys are thick stainless. Can they be made 
> to fit, or are these types un-bendable?
>
> 3. Maybe I should just go back to 700 x 32c for the Ram and a narrower 
> fender would fit better?
>
>
>

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[RBW] Introduction from RBW fans in NZ

[Chris in NZ]

Hello everybody 

I’ve been a member of this forum for a while but haven’t had much to contribute 
so far aside from the odd comment on a couple of threads. However, I thought I 
would introduce myself in anticipation of a post in the coming weeks once I 
assemble a couple of dream bikes (Hunqapillars for myself and my partner!)

 My partner and I live in Dunedin, New Zealand, and we are avid 
commuter/utility riders as well as occasional cycle tourists. We currently ride 
LHTs, have recently bought for short trips and we have a beautiful sage 
Hubbuhubbuh.

I had my adult rediscovery of bikes a few years ago when I quit what I was 
doing, bought the LHT and spent four months touring NZ. During that tour I met 
a guy riding a bike unlike any I had seen at that point, and until I saw that 
it had modern Shimano components, I believed must have been a relic.. What 
really made an impression on me was that he seemed to glide along the road 
rather than ride and couldn’t believe riding a bike could be so joyous (as much 
as I enjoyed riding my LHT). I wrote down the word “Atlantis”, and when I 
finally had a chance to google it, I fell headlong into the Rivendell universe! 
I found out recently from an old blug that this was Caddie Mike  - if you’re on 
here Mike, thanks!

I met my partner shortly after I finished that tour and indoctrinated her into 
cycling for fun and utility, eventually built her a LHT also, and we both ended 
up with Albatross bars and a longing for a Rivendell bike...
We thought the HHH might sate us but ultimately we both needed singles too! We 
pushed the button on two Hunqs in January and just received them. Once I’ve got 
them assembled I’ll report back...

Chris

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[RBW] MTB on the Blahg (again)

[Chris in NZ]

STU LEWIS OBLONGS

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[RBW] FS: 58 Sam Hillborne, dark orange

[Peter Seterdahl]

Hi Tom
Can you give me a measurement from the ground to midpoint of top tube?
Many thanks, Peter

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[RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

[M Talley]

Interesting. I see the curved second top tube of the new Atlantis inverted 
here. Though probably thicker walled for this application. It reminds me 
how now I see bicycle design in terms of palettes of tube selections. After 
looking over what some of the new models out from Surly, All City and Salsa 
- specifically the models able to accept wide tire like this Hill bike - I 
thought these separate brands must share. To have a heavily shaped tube 
made and have it make sense by scales of economy the other two brands might 
look at it as a piece to add to a new model. Just guessing.

On Friday, September 14, 2018 at 11:43:49 PM UTC-4, Collin A wrote:
>
> Looks different, as all rivendell bikes do. It'll be interesting to see 
> how it rides and what the bike industry will think of it at the trade show.
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/all-about-ebikes
>
> Happy Saturday riding everyone,
> Collin
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Hilltrek Ventile Cotton Analogy Sale

['Eamon Nordquist' via RBW Owners Bunch]

John, please do post some pictures when your Greenspot arrives.

Eamon

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[RBW] Re: 56 650b Hunqapillar arrived.

[Mark Schneider]

Looks beauty I always wondered how the Hunq's compare to an Atlantis.
Enjoy it, you have a great bike.
Mark

On Sunday, October 1, 2017 at 6:51:57 PM UTC-7, Stephen W. wrote:
>
> Howdy folks,
> So the 56 650b Hunqapillar arrived! I've attached a couple of pics (I 
> think). Impression? It's more nimble and light than I expected but I'm used 
> to riding a Surly Ice Cream Truck so I suppose I should have know it would 
> be snappier than a fat bike. Anywho, just thought I'd share. 
>
> Thanks, 
>
> Stephen
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Soma San Marcos - Size 54

[Patrick Shea]

Okay, thanks! I’m still mulling.

Patrick

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 5:05 PM RDS  wrote:

> Yes, the brakes are included.  My fault for not mentioning this in the
> original post.
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 7:52:56 PM UTC-4, RDS wrote:
>>
>> Soma San Marcos size 54 - Frame, Fork, Headset (FSA).  I am the 2nd owner
>> (I think) and the first owner did not ride the bike.  I probably rode it
>> less than 20 miles.  Frame is in good shape.  A couple of paint nicks that
>> you can see in the pics. $500 + shipping by BikeFlights or ShipBikes.
>>
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nimNFoZwJVF861Y2TctQC3xLj08cgzPu?usp=sharing
>>
>> Contact me off list.  Paypal friends and family for payment.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

[Joe Bernard]

The "sweepback bar cruisers" ride great, as does my Roadini. In my opinion only 
someone who's never ridden the new models would dismiss them. 

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Re: [RBW] Hilltrek Ventile Cotton Analogy Sale

[John Bokman]

Well, I opted for the 2x Ventile Greenspot jacket, even though I was really 
interested in a smock. It won't be here for 6-8 weeks, so won't be able to 
report for a while yet.
I wanted the jacket because it will be primarily used as a 
commuting/general purpose jacket, and a zipper is more convenient for me  
in those situations. If I were buying a specific use garment I'd rather go 
with the smock.

And based on the interesting notes from Andy about color impregnation, I 
opted for dull, drab Olive green, because, for my use, it's more versatile. 
If I want to be seen - I do - I'll employ a vest of some sort over the 
jacket when it's truly dark. 

Thanks to you guys who chimed in with thoughts, impressions, and opinions.

BTW, Dave over at Hilltrek is very helpful, and prompt with his responses 
to my many questions over the internet.

On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 2:05:14 AM UTC-7, ascpgh wrote:
>
> John, you're right and I've lost my mind! Ghosts of previous shells that 
> needed pit zips any more have addled me. Only dropping the front zip has 
> been necessary to get all the venting needed (duh, that was the primary 
> attraction of Ventile to me).
>
> Sorry for the confusion. It clearly has been warm enough that I've been 
> without my Braemar's use for some months. 
>
> Side note: Farmer's Almanac says it's going to be very cold and snowy 
> here. I'll be in it daily for long stretches soon.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 11:21:29 PM UTC-4, John Bokman wrote:
>>
>> Andy, I didn’t realize the Braemar had pit zips? I don’t see this detail 
>> on their specifications page. Pit zips would certainly help in airflow no 
>> matter what the fabric.
>>
>> You have the DV or the Hybrid?
>>
>> On Aug 30, 2018, at 10:02 AM, ascpgh  wrote:
>>
>> I didn't option my Braemar with side zips, I get how they could be 
>> helpful when getting out of the smock/anorak. Available on the 
>> customization options for 50 BSP. As airflow is concerned, with my neck zip 
>> down and the pit zips opened up, ventilation is not an issue. Certainly not 
>> for the complication and $65 of the option. I vote with entropy; avoid 
>> unnecessary complexities to assure prolonged baseline function.
>>
>> I am very pleased with my garment and simply ecstatic to have found 
>> something that is not synthetic, crunchy, stiff, and noisy. My experiences 
>> with technical shells has been highlighted by inferior water repelling 
>> performance, poor vapor ventilation, and lack of sustained function or 
>> durability under regular use. I think my 2-3 year cycle of disappointment 
>> with shell jackets is over now.
>>
>> I picked red as Patrick did for the visibility practicality. I have both 
>> a reflective mesh Nathan safety vest and reflective Tuvizo belt/shoulder 
>> strap rig to wear on top if my visibility concerns are greater than that. 
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 8:57:06 AM UTC-4, John Bokman wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Patrick and Andy for your assistance. Very interesting about the 
>>> coloration of cottons. I had no idea.
>>>
>>> I’m not one who would wear “neon” green or yellow, but I’m partial to a 
>>> “warm” color like orange or red to be seen on the road.
>>>
>>> Guys: Do you have size zips for your smock? I would suspect they’d not 
>>> only help with removal but with allowing more airflow?
>>>
>>> I assume with the weight of the smock being over 2#, I would only need a 
>>> thin layer underneath and I’d be plenty warm. Most of my rain season (8 
>>> months a year)  riding is done at (wet) temperatures between 35-60 degrees. 
>>>
>>> Any additional comments on your products and use are welcome as I try to 
>>> make choices. I’m sick and tired of burning through plastics, no matter how 
>>> “advanced” or “improved”.
>>>
>>> On Aug 30, 2018, at 4:46 AM, ascpgh  wrote:
>>>
>>> John, that's the item I have now, their Braemar smock, in red. 
>>>
>>> Fluorescent colors in fabrics are a bit more susceptible to UV 
>>> degradation of the pigments that produce the fluorescent color effect. The 
>>> base fabric dictates the  necessity of chemical characteristics of a 
>>> coloring dye, cotton is one of the hardest to accommodate. If interested: 
>>> https://www.aatcc.org/media/Read/Newsletter/archive/2013/01A/The_Perils_and_Pitfalls_of_Dyeing_Neon_Colors.PDF
>>>
>>> Back in my late '80s outdoor retail days, when fluorescent ("neon") 
>>> colors ruled ski gear, we had a one day in the window policy for displays. 
>>> They were rotated to even the exposure and the merchandisers had worksheets 
>>> that were kept by the displays near the UV blocking windows because we 
>>> observed fade from brief display in direct sunlight despite the glass 
>>> choice, even non-fluorescent colors. 
>>>
>>> In that same era Grant wrote in the 1991 Bridgestone catalog about 
>>> color: 
>>> https://www.sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1991/pages/bridgestone-1991-17.htm
>>>
>>> 

Re: [RBW] ISO inexpensive, narrow, Maes Parallel bar

[Steve Palincsar]

Related image


On 09/16/2018 10:13 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:

I call, recall, and recall again the 42 cm one obscenely wide.

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 7:58 PM, Steve Palincsar > wrote:


Don't forget, those Maes parallel bars' measurements are at the
bar ends, and they flare a bit.  At the hoods, the 44 cm Compass
Maes Parallel is perhaps 42 cm wide, if that much.  It's risible
to call even the 44 "obscenely wide."


On 09/16/2018 09:40 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:

I know that this is the list of wide bars, so perhaps my search
is not so forlorn after all. Now is /your/ opportunity to dump
that god-forsaken, heretical /narrow/ bar and earn some cash for it.

I'd like to try a Maes Parallel-type bar on the Hon Solo. I want
a 125 mm drop and 115 mm reach, or as near as makes no
difference. 38 to 42 cm width at hoods, but prefer 38 or 40.

Vo has them on sale now for $40, and I'd just order one of
theirs, but their narrowest is 42 cm, which is obscenely wide
(and I'm not small; the best-fitting frame I ever owned among
very many was 60 X 57, both c-c.)

Please reply offlist. Thanks.

Patrick Moore, who has Maes Parallel 38s on his 2 Riv Road
customs, and a very wide 42 on his dirt road Matthews.


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Re: [RBW] ISO inexpensive, narrow, Maes Parallel bar

[Patrick Moore]

I call, recall, and recall again the 42 cm one obscenely wide.

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 7:58 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:

> Don't forget, those Maes parallel bars' measurements are at the bar ends,
> and they flare a bit.  At the hoods, the 44 cm Compass Maes Parallel is
> perhaps 42 cm wide, if that much.  It's risible to call even the 44
> "obscenely wide."
>
> On 09/16/2018 09:40 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I know that this is the list of wide bars, so perhaps my search is not so
> forlorn after all. Now is *your* opportunity to dump that god-forsaken,
> heretical *narrow* bar and earn some cash for it.
>
> I'd like to try a Maes Parallel-type bar on the Hon Solo. I want a 125 mm
> drop and 115 mm reach, or as near as makes no difference. 38 to 42 cm width
> at hoods, but prefer 38 or 40.
>
> Vo has them on sale now for $40, and I'd just order one of theirs, but
> their narrowest is 42 cm, which is obscenely wide (and I'm not small; the
> best-fitting frame I ever owned among very many was 60 X 57, both c-c.)
>
> Please reply offlist. Thanks.
>
> Patrick Moore, who has Maes Parallel 38s on his 2 Riv Road customs, and a
> very wide 42 on his dirt road Matthews.
>
>
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Re: [RBW] ISO inexpensive, narrow, Maes Parallel bar

[Steve Palincsar]

Don't forget, those Maes parallel bars' measurements are at the bar 
ends, and they flare a bit.  At the hoods, the 44 cm Compass Maes 
Parallel is perhaps 42 cm wide, if that much.  It's risible to call even 
the 44 "obscenely wide."



On 09/16/2018 09:40 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
I know that this is the list of wide bars, so perhaps my search is not 
so forlorn after all. Now is /your/ opportunity to dump that 
god-forsaken, heretical /narrow/ bar and earn some cash for it.


I'd like to try a Maes Parallel-type bar on the Hon Solo. I want a 125 
mm drop and 115 mm reach, or as near as makes no difference. 38 to 42 
cm width at hoods, but prefer 38 or 40.


Vo has them on sale now for $40, and I'd just order one of theirs, but 
their narrowest is 42 cm, which is obscenely wide (and I'm not small; 
the best-fitting frame I ever owned among very many was 60 X 57, both 
c-c.)


Please reply offlist. Thanks.

Patrick Moore, who has Maes Parallel 38s on his 2 Riv Road customs, 
and a very wide 42 on his dirt road Matthews.


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USA

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Re: [RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

[Patrick Moore]

Don: I joined Rivendell circa 1994, and I too have observed the transition
from Old School steel-and-toe-clips-and-wool-jersey roadie schtick, and
cheap but smart kit, to the current crop of cruisers (that last term is not
used in deprecation, but it's an apt term) and $250+ bags. I've owned 5
Rivs, and still have 2 -- both road models. I've owned most of the bags
Rivendell has sold, though many I've bought used.

I've scoffed at tweed mudflaps and so forth, but the scuttlebutt is that
even the Clems and Roscoes and what have yous still have that magic
signature handling and I, for one, won't dismiss these sweepback-bar models
until I personally ride one.

Patrick "Mongolians be damned" Moore

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 7:35 PM, Don Compton  wrote:

> I really like my Roadeo and loved my Ram. I appreciate Grant's vision.
> But, I have ZERO interest in his new models. He lost my interest.
>
> On Friday, September 14, 2018 at 8:43:49 PM UTC-7, Collin A wrote:
>>
>> Looks different, as all rivendell bikes do. It'll be interesting to see
>> how it rides and what the bike industry will think of it at the trade show.
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/a
>> ll-about-ebikes
>>
>> Happy Saturday riding everyone,
>> Collin
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[RBW] ISO inexpensive, narrow, Maes Parallel bar

[Patrick Moore]

I know that this is the list of wide bars, so perhaps my search is not so
forlorn after all. Now is *your* opportunity to dump that god-forsaken,
heretical *narrow* bar and earn some cash for it.

I'd like to try a Maes Parallel-type bar on the Hon Solo. I want a 125 mm
drop and 115 mm reach, or as near as makes no difference. 38 to 42 cm width
at hoods, but prefer 38 or 40.

Vo has them on sale now for $40, and I'd just order one of theirs, but
their narrowest is 42 cm, which is obscenely wide (and I'm not small; the
best-fitting frame I ever owned among very many was 60 X 57, both c-c.)

Please reply offlist. Thanks.

Patrick Moore, who has Maes Parallel 38s on his 2 Riv Road customs, and a
very wide 42 on his dirt road Matthews.






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[RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

[Don Compton]

I really like my Roadeo and loved my Ram. I appreciate Grant's vision. But, 
I have ZERO interest in his new models. He lost my interest.

On Friday, September 14, 2018 at 8:43:49 PM UTC-7, Collin A wrote:
>
> Looks different, as all rivendell bikes do. It'll be interesting to see 
> how it rides and what the bike industry will think of it at the trade show.
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/all-about-ebikes
>
> Happy Saturday riding everyone,
> Collin
>
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[RBW] Re: Building out New Old Stock 2009 Sam Hillborne

['Eric Myers' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Very nice!  I was considering green bar tape for my build too :-)  I've 
noticed the paint seems to chip easily, but so far not in large flakes.  If 
it ever gets to the point of needing to repaint it, I will also change the 
rear brake braze-ons to accommodate continuous housing, but I hope that day 
is a long way off.

I'll probably put fenders on it for the winter, and a kickstand soon, but 
for now I'm enjoying the low accessories build.


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[RBW] Re: Shimano cantilever brakes (CX-70/50) link wire question

[Brad]

I set up two bikes with CX-50's and, on both bikes, the link wire wasn't 
the right length to fit over fenders. I had generic straddle wire & 
carriers in my parts bin and they work great.

Brad
Queens

On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 3:03:29 PM UTC-4, Jeffrey B wrote:
>
> Please help! I'm setting up a set of new CX-70 brakes on my Sam Hillborne 
> and can't find the link wires. I called Riv but they don't have 
> replacements. Would anyone be willing to measure the length of their 
> CX-70/50 link wire for me (center to center) so I know which replacement 
> unit link to order? Or, if you have these link wires that you don't use I 
> would pay to help clean out your parts bin :)
>
> Thanks all! 
> Jeff
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[RBW] Re: Best brake fork crown clearance calipers?

['Eamon Nordquist' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Aha! I guess I always think about buying brakes as a pair (front and rear), 
but the original post did specify best fork crown clearance, so maybe the 
search is just for a single brake.

- Eamon

On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 12:51:49 PM UTC-7, tc wrote:
>
> Right now (Sunday 9/16 3:47pm ET) ebay has one single NIB silver Paul 
> Racer brake for a "Buy it now" price of $90.  See it here 
> 
> .
>
> There are several other new Paul Racers on ebay for barely over $100.  
>
> Tom
>
> On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 12:26:59 PM UTC-4, tc wrote:
>>
>> Used Paul Racers?
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Soma San Marcos - Size 54

[RDS]

Yes, the brakes are included.  My fault for not mentioning this in the 
original post.

On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 7:52:56 PM UTC-4, RDS wrote:
>
> Soma San Marcos size 54 - Frame, Fork, Headset (FSA).  I am the 2nd owner 
> (I think) and the first owner did not ride the bike.  I probably rode it 
> less than 20 miles.  Frame is in good shape.  A couple of paint nicks that 
> you can see in the pics. $500 + shipping by BikeFlights or ShipBikes.
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nimNFoZwJVF861Y2TctQC3xLj08cgzPu?usp=sharing
>
> Contact me off list.  Paypal friends and family for payment.
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[RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

[iamkeith]

Agree the big one does seem like it could just as easily have 29+ tires.

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[RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

[iamkeith]

After staring for a day, i have to say the overall shape has really grown on me 
a lot.  I sort of liked the look of the  Ritchey Commando (the newer, steel, 
fat bike version of that name), which had a similar curve for standover 
clearance... but then somehow completely missed the boat by still having way 
too short of a stack height. This gets it right!

Not super fond of the rear brake cable routing, but it's easy to nitpick 
details that would probably disapear in real life. Or maybe be solved with a 
pulley-type cable hanger.

Meanwhile, I see at least three super SMART details on Gus that always seemed 
like glaring ommissions on my Clem: Two sets of bottle cage braze ons on the 
top of the downtube;  Pump pegs behind the seatpost;  and Offset kickstand 
mounting hole to accommodate fat tires.

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[RBW] 56 & 58 Hunq standover with max tire?

[WETH]

Measured mine right in front of bottom bracket.

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[RBW] 56 & 58 Hunq standover with max tire?

[WETH]

The 56 with 650b x 2.4 Continental x-kings is 82.5 cm.
This is Stephen’s former Hunq of which I am now the proud owner!

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[RBW] 56 & 58 Hunq standover with max tire?

['Jennings' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I’ve got a grey 58 and with Schwalb smart sams at700x 1.75 I am showing 33.25 
inches midway. 

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[RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

[Tony DeFilippo]

My first reaction from the initial visual wasn't super positive... but it's 
growing on me a bit.  I don't love that top tube curve but I'm not sure 
why.  I do love Grant's Mongolian horseback analogy for trail riding, I've 
never thought about it that way and will re-read a couple times and try to 
incorporate it a bit myself.  I also enjoy the newly created 'Hill Bike' 
segment but it also highlights the difference in readily available riding 
for Mt/Hill bikes close to me... for all the reasons Grant highlights 
urban/suburban trails are mostly tailored to the capabilities or 
aspirations of dual suspension bikes, at least the intermediate and 
advanced ones.  I'm 1-2 hours from the kind of trailhead for the wandering 
exploratory rides he's talking about which makes it difficult these days.

Still I'm thrilled they made the bike, as much as I do like the hydro-disc 
brakes on my Jones Plus I think I'd be fine w/ canti's and better able to 
service them (though the hydro procedure isn't rocket science).  I'll be 
interested to see the final production version.  I hope he goes w/ a cream 
headtube... maybe that is what is bothering me in my initial blush more 
than the curved top tube, or maybe its the tig weld transition of top tube, 
down tube and head tube...  something discountenanced there for me.

Tony

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[RBW] 56 & 58 Hunq standover with max tire?

[tc]

I'm having a hard time finding standover heights for the 56 Hunq (which I 
believe was only offered in 650b) with the max tire.  This chart 
 lists standover of the 56 at 84.1, 
and 58 at 86.7 -- but not sure if that's at max tire size, which would be a 
2.35.  I would think they'd provide standover spec's at the max tire, but 
who knows.  I can call Riv of course, but thought some of you may have 
actual measurements... 

If anyone out there has a 56/650b or 58/700c with 2.25 or greater tires, 
could you share your standover height at the midpoint of the TT?  

Theoretically I'd ride a 58 (90.5 pbh), which would be fine for the road.  
But, given this would be more off-roadish, I think a standover max of 84 
(with max width tire) would be safer for bumpy stuff and sudden dismounts

Thanks,
Tom

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[RBW] Re: 56 650b Hunqapillar arrived.

[Stephen W.]

TC- I don't own the bicycle any longer (went a size up to a 59 650b 
Hunqapillar) but if I remember correctly the standover was 84.4

Stephen 

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[RBW] Re: 56 650b Hunqapillar arrived.

[tc]

Hey Stephen, I know it's been almost a year since you posted this, but 
wondering if you could share the standover with those tires?

Thanks,
Tom

On Sunday, October 1, 2017 at 9:51:57 PM UTC-4, Stephen W. wrote:
>
> Howdy folks,
> So the 56 650b Hunqapillar arrived! I've attached a couple of pics (I 
> think). Impression? It's more nimble and light than I expected but I'm used 
> to riding a Surly Ice Cream Truck so I suppose I should have know it would 
> be snappier than a fat bike. Anywho, just thought I'd share. 
>
> Thanks, 
>
> Stephen
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

They were way, way down on the photo page of the post dougP referenced.  
Initially, I thought Manny had linked to the wrong page but that red bike 
his friend was riding interested me enough that I stayed on the page anyway 
only to realize the Gus photos were there after all. 




On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 12:19:48 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Where is this "Manny's photo" ? I don't see any Gus pics on that thread. 

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[RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

[Doug H.]

I like the look of this bike.  I’d say it looks like a low rider...I can even 
hear the Low Rider song playing while looking at the photos. Has a price point 
been posted?
Doug

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[RBW] Re: Building out New Old Stock 2009 Sam Hillborne

['Eric Myers' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks everyone, I'm pretty fond of the color too. I remember admiring it 
when the bike first came out, there was one parked near my worked, and I 
read and re-read the lovely bike posts about it.

@Jeremy, How cool!  If you see me again you should stop me and have a chat!

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[RBW] Re: Best brake fork crown clearance calipers?

[tc]

Right now (Sunday 9/16 3:47pm ET) ebay has one single NIB silver Paul Racer 
brake for a "Buy it now" price of $90.  See it here 

.

There are several other new Paul Racers on ebay for barely over $100.  

Tom

On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 12:26:59 PM UTC-4, tc wrote:
>
> Used Paul Racers?
>

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[RBW] Re: Best brake fork crown clearance calipers?

[JohnS]

On my Roadeo, I have Tektro R538 brakes with Planet Bike plastic fenders, 
not sure of the width, Vittoria Corsa 700 x 28 tires on Velocity A23 rims. 
All work really well together, plenty of room for a 32 tire, but that would 
probably be the max on this bike/fender combo.

Regards,
JohnS

On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 12:09:54 AM UTC-4, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> Current production and under $100 US dollars.
> Cannot dangle below fork crown, stealing needed cm.
>
> Gotta be sidepulls or centerpulls mounted to fork crown. 700c wheel reach. 
> Silver color.
> Thanks for the info.
>

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[RBW] Shimano cantilever brakes (CX-70/50) link wire question

[RichS]

Jeff,

You don’t have to use the link wire. I have CX-70s on my Atlantis and 
jettisoned the link wire in favor of a conventional straddle wire with a 
Jagwire straddle cable holder. Works perfectly. 
I believe some others on the list have done the same thing.

Regards,
Rich in ATL

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Re: [RBW] ISO: sweepy silver 31.8 handlebar

[Eric Daume]

The Soma Osprey and Clarence both come in 31.8, and the Osprey, at least,
is available in silver.

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 9:46 AM Drw  wrote:

> Anyone have a recommendation for a 31.8 bar that is similar in shape and
> length to the map/ahearne bar? Or even something like an albatross would
> work. Has to be silver.
>
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[RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

[dougP]

See Manny's post:  New Riv Mountain Bike.  It has a link to photos of a 
recent adventure plus his visit to RBWHQ.

dougP

On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 10:19:48 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> Where is this "Manny's photo" ? I don't see any Gus pics on that thread. 

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[RBW] Re: Best brake fork crown clearance calipers?

['Eamon Nordquist' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Do people actually sell Paul's for under $100, even used? I'm asking, not 
disagreeing. I've never seen them for that price, but I've also never 
really shopped for any used other than casually searching.

Eamon

On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 10:24:06 AM UTC-7, tc wrote:
>
> Right, Eamon, that's why I said "Used..." :)
>
> On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 12:38:57 PM UTC-4, Eamon Nordquist 
> wrote:
>>
>> Paul's are a lot more than $100...
>>
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[RBW] Re: Building out New Old Stock 2009 Sam Hillborne

[tc]

Awesome bike, and congrats!  It's indeed an early one, as you can see from 
this  "Lovely Bicycle" post in early Jan 2010:
http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2010/01/whats-green-and-lugged-and-not-bicycle.html

Constance has additional posts and ride reviews, like this one:
http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2010/11/born-for-hills-review-of-rivendell-sam.html

I believe it was her first drop bar bike.

Enjoy!
Tom

On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 7:02:03 PM UTC-4, Eric Myers wrote:
>
> Took the Sam for a lovely 20 mile ride today with my son (12) along the 
> American River Bike Trail, which is where we usually ride, though not 
> always this far.  TLDR: I love this bike.
>
> I've still got some minor adjustment tweaks to make, but overall I am 
> really happy with how easy and comfortable this bike rides, right off the 
> bat.  My hands didn't start getting a little tingly until almost the end of 
> the ride, no neck pain at all, and no aches from bad posture.  Our average 
> speed was about 12 mph, though for once the wind was in our favor - against 
> us going downhill, and behind us going up.  I'm not trying to be a speed 
> demon on this bike, but I'm happy with that speed for now so I'll probably 
> raise the handlebars a bit as my first tweak.  I was also happy with hand 
> positions on the Albatross bars:  on the grip; hand on the brake lever 
> clamp; and on the curves.  Curiously to me, I used the middle position the 
> most.
>
> The build, mostly from stuff I already had:
> 2009? NOS Sam Hillborne frame, 60cm
> Drivetrain and wheels from 1992 Bridgestone XO-3
>
> Shimano Exage 300LX derailleurs
>
> Shimano 300CX cranks with 50-40-30 chainrings
>
> Shimano 7 speed Cassette 13-28
> Shimano 300LX hubs
> Araya PX-45 36H rims
>
> Panaracer Pasela PT 700 x 38c tires
> Tallux 10cm stem
> Albatross bars
> Brooks B17 saddle
> Nigel Smythe Country Bag
> New to me Nitto S83 seatpost from Thomas Skean's 2010 Sam Hillborne :-)
> New Shimano Ultegra bar end shifters
> New Shimano Deore 610 series V-Brakes and levers.
>
> Here are two pictures of the bike from the ride:
>
> [image: IMG_20180915_123354.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_20180915_123407.jpg] 
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: ISO: sweepy silver 31.8 handlebar

[Garth]

Jeremy,  According to Merry Sales the Albatross bar comes in 3 widths, the 
31.8 being 56cm wide, what the original Cr-mo version was.  When I bought a 
HT Al Alba the first thing I noticed compared to my 56cm steel bars was the 
curve was a smaller radius and I didn't like it one bit. It also wasn't 
55cm as promoted.  The Merry Sales page explains it.  The curve of the 56 
steel to me is perfect and it appears the 31.8 version uses that shape. 
I've not seen a 55 steel to know if it has the same curve and the 56 
versions. No website that sells the B352 mentions all these subtle yet not 
insignificant variations of width and curve. I can see why some people do 
not like the HT Al versions, they ruined the perfect curve ! 

https://merrysaleswholesale.mysapanywhere.com/products/212352357531680-nitto-hbar-b352-albatross


The Jones bars are 31.8 for Drw .  More room for the hands and wider, 45 
degree sweep.





On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 12:32:42 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Till wrote:
>
> The Albatross comes in a 31.8mm HT aluminum version: 
>
> https://store.somafab.com/nib3al31bar.html
>
> I had one for a short while but never mounted it up. The bend is slightly 
> different than the other ones, the grip area is slightly more angled. Here 
> it is superimposed on a 25.4 CrMo one, with a cameo by my feet:  
>
> https://flic.kr/p/ySmLng
>  
> On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 6:46:36 AM UTC-7, Drw wrote:
>>
>> Anyone have a recommendation for a 31.8 bar that is similar in shape and 
>> length to the map/ahearne bar? Or even something like an albatross would 
>> work. Has to be silver. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

[Joe Bernard]

Where is this "Manny's photo" ? I don't see any Gus pics on that thread. 

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[RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Given that the bike was built up with Will in mind, I was thinking those 
were 29" tires but I think you are right that they are 27.5.  The photo is 
not quite high enough in resolution but it appears more like "27" than 
"29".   

Manny's photo shows him holding up a bare frame that is closer to the 
Appaloosa blue color, which is one of my favorite Riv colors.  Manny's 
photo is so distorted that the seat tube looks higher than the headtube and 
I can't tell if that frame is larger or smaller than the one on the Blahg.  




On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 11:27:51 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Till wrote:
>
> Plus tires and cantilever brakes! Called it!  
>
> It looks great to me, and is very much what I was expecting, although the 
> top tube configuration was a surprise.  My wife hates it, I think it's 
> awesome.  
>
> Wondering about the sizing and geometry.  The sample that is set up for 
> Will looks like it is running 650B+ wheels, so the 29" XL must be really 
> big.  I think the sample looks like it would fit me well.  I'll probably 
> get one, especially if that color is an option.  I'll have to build a new 
> set of wheels, but other than that a lot of the parts from my Clem could 
> swap over.  
>
> On Friday, September 14, 2018 at 8:43:49 PM UTC-7, Collin A wrote:
>>
>> Looks different, as all rivendell bikes do. It'll be interesting to see 
>> how it rides and what the bike industry will think of it at the trade show.
>>
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/all-about-ebikes
>>
>> Happy Saturday riding everyone,
>> Collin
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 2 Schwalbe Marathon Supreme tubeless 700 x 40mm

[Cody Bartz]

Okeydokey. 

Cody

> On Sep 16, 2018, at 11:24 AM, Bruce Smitham  wrote:
> 
> No, sorry they are sold 
> 
> Bruce Smitham
> 
> 
>  
> 
>> On Sep 15, 2018, at 9:15 PM, Cody Bartz  wrote:
>> 
>> Are these still available?
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 1:13:49 AM UTC-4, Bruce Smitham wrote:
>>> FS 2 Schwalbe Marathon Supreme tubeless 700 x 40mm In great condition. 
>>> Definitely has some orange sealant residue but otherwise great condition. 
>>> $50 plus shipping CONUS for both.
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Bruce in San Diego
>>> 
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[RBW] Re: Building out New Old Stock 2009 Sam Hillborne

[Jeremy Till]

I think I passed you today on the river trail, Eric! I was going the other 
way on a green Rambouillet, also with Albatross bars. I rode from my house 
in Downtown Sac up to the Sunrise Bridge and back, and was really enjoying 
how fast and comfortable the Ram was with that setup. Snapped a picture at 
the turn around: 

https://www.instagram.com/p/BnwYDMVB0Wx/

Glad to hear your first long ride on the Sam went well!

On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 4:02:03 PM UTC-7, Eric Myers wrote:
>
> Took the Sam for a lovely 20 mile ride today with my son (12) along the 
> American River Bike Trail, which is where we usually ride, though not 
> always this far.  TLDR: I love this bike.
>
> I've still got some minor adjustment tweaks to make, but overall I am 
> really happy with how easy and comfortable this bike rides, right off the 
> bat.  My hands didn't start getting a little tingly until almost the end of 
> the ride, no neck pain at all, and no aches from bad posture.  Our average 
> speed was about 12 mph, though for once the wind was in our favor - against 
> us going downhill, and behind us going up.  I'm not trying to be a speed 
> demon on this bike, but I'm happy with that speed for now so I'll probably 
> raise the handlebars a bit as my first tweak.  I was also happy with hand 
> positions on the Albatross bars:  on the grip; hand on the brake lever 
> clamp; and on the curves.  Curiously to me, I used the middle position the 
> most.
>
> The build, mostly from stuff I already had:
> 2009? NOS Sam Hillborne frame, 60cm
> Drivetrain and wheels from 1992 Bridgestone XO-3
>
> Shimano Exage 300LX derailleurs
>
> Shimano 300CX cranks with 50-40-30 chainrings
>
> Shimano 7 speed Cassette 13-28
> Shimano 300LX hubs
> Araya PX-45 36H rims
>
> Panaracer Pasela PT 700 x 38c tires
> Tallux 10cm stem
> Albatross bars
> Brooks B17 saddle
> Nigel Smythe Country Bag
> New to me Nitto S83 seatpost from Thomas Skean's 2010 Sam Hillborne :-)
> New Shimano Ultegra bar end shifters
> New Shimano Deore 610 series V-Brakes and levers.
>
> Here are two pictures of the bike from the ride:
>
> [image: IMG_20180915_123354.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_20180915_123407.jpg] 
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: ISO: sweepy silver 31.8 handlebar

[Jeremy Till]

The Albatross comes in a 31.8mm HT aluminum version: 

https://store.somafab.com/nib3al31bar.html

I had one for a short while but never mounted it up. The bend is slightly 
different than the other ones, the grip area is slightly more angled. Here 
it is superimposed on a 25.4 CrMo one, with a cameo by my feet:  

https://flic.kr/p/ySmLng
 
On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 6:46:36 AM UTC-7, Drw wrote:
>
> Anyone have a recommendation for a 31.8 bar that is similar in shape and 
> length to the map/ahearne bar? Or even something like an albatross would 
> work. Has to be silver. 

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[RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

[Jeremy Till]

Plus tires and cantilever brakes! Called it!  

It looks great to me, and is very much what I was expecting, although the 
top tube configuration was a surprise.  My wife hates it, I think it's 
awesome.  

Wondering about the sizing and geometry.  The sample that is set up for 
Will looks like it is running 650B+ wheels, so the 29" XL must be really 
big.  I think the sample looks like it would fit me well.  I'll probably 
get one, especially if that color is an option.  I'll have to build a new 
set of wheels, but other than that a lot of the parts from my Clem could 
swap over.  

On Friday, September 14, 2018 at 8:43:49 PM UTC-7, Collin A wrote:
>
> Looks different, as all rivendell bikes do. It'll be interesting to see 
> how it rides and what the bike industry will think of it at the trade show.
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/all-about-ebikes
>
> Happy Saturday riding everyone,
> Collin
>
>
>

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[RBW] ISO: sweepy silver 31.8 handlebar

[Joe Bernard]

FSA Metropolis

https://www.modernbike.com/product-2126182324?gclid=Cj0KCQjw_vfcBRDJARIsAJafEnHMjE2jPMSstcLp5CSGYmTz-JF8VPl5ULiKQ5uqoDQCN8mXHfOIwCAaAqM1EALw_wcB

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 2 Schwalbe Marathon Supreme tubeless 700 x 40mm

[Bruce Smitham]

No, sorry they are sold 

Bruce Smitham


 

> On Sep 15, 2018, at 9:15 PM, Cody Bartz  wrote:
> 
> Are these still available?
> 
>> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 1:13:49 AM UTC-4, Bruce Smitham wrote:
>> FS 2 Schwalbe Marathon Supreme tubeless 700 x 40mm In great condition. 
>> Definitely has some orange sealant residue but otherwise great condition. 
>> $50 plus shipping CONUS for both.
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Bruce in San Diego
>> 
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[RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

When Grant stated that it would have a lot of stand-over but wouldn't be a 
Mixte, I assumed the bike would have a sharply sloping top-tube like most 
modern MTB's.  A downward curved top-tube never occurred to me and I was 
very surprised when the bike was unveiled.  

I can imagine that the GUS BOOTS-WILLSEN is amazing for the type of riding 
it's designed for.  I look forward to seeing these with the Wavie Bar, 
which i assume was designed specifically for this bike, given Grant's hint 
about a 31.8 version.  



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>
> Looks different, as all rivendell bikes do. It'll be interesting to see 
> how it rides and what the bike industry will think of it at the trade show.
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/all-about-ebikes
>
> Happy Saturday riding everyone,
> Collin
>
>
>

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[RBW] ISO: sweepy silver 31.8 handlebar

[Drw]

Anyone have a recommendation for a 31.8 bar that is similar in shape and length 
to the map/ahearne bar? Or even something like an albatross would work. Has to 
be silver. 

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