Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

2021-05-17 Thread Bones
P.S. Kate, I'm with Vince on this one. If you are used to drops the Choco 
does offer better hand positions, especially if you don't need them up 
high. I've used Albatross bars a bunch but I have always come back to the 
Chocos (especially inverted). Every time I ride Albatross bars I end up 
putting my hands all the way forward and they just aren't as comfortable 
there as they are on the Choco. Albatross wins for style, Choco wins for 
function.

Bones

On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 9:00:38 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:

> I think it really all depends on where you like to put your hands. I love 
> the Billie Bars too, because I like to move my hands back and forth. My 
> wife only ever seemed to hold the end of the Boscos on her 52 Clem (10cm 
> stem), so when I put her Platypus together I had two options ready: more 
> Boscos on a 12-13cm Tallux or Albatross on an 85cm fillet brazed 
> flaceplater. In the end I chose the Boscos for aesthetic purposes. No doubt 
> I would have had to max out the stem to make the Billies or Chocos work. 
> Rise was as big a factor as reach for her. You can accomplish the same 
> thing a few different ways. With respect to the hand positions on the 
> Boscos, that forward position seems to work best when the bars are angled 
> down a good bit and/or low enough.
>
> Bones
>
> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 7:22:43 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Leah, I think you absolutely made the right call going with a Billie 
>> bar.  That bar has bar-none (heh) the largest range of fore-aft hand 
>> positions of the options I'm familiar with.  On the Boscos, while it's 
>> common practice to wrap the bar ahead of the brake lever, I don't see how 
>> anyone makes decent use of this area as a hand position.  However, while 
>> the Billie extends back almost as far for cruising along, you can very 
>> comfortably and naturally slide your hands all the way into the front 
>> "hooks", which is a bunch of inches forward.  These bars are so long your 
>> stem length does little more than determine where along the bar you put 
>> your brake levers - I suggest positioning them for your most popular hand 
>> position;  Rivendell puts them further back on the bar than I would, I like 
>> 1.5 grip's worth about behind the levers, and it's still comfortable to put 
>> your hands forward even if they rest atop the levers partially.  
>>
>> Tangentially related, a surprise benefit to the Paul levers, beyond their 
>> incredibly smooth operation, is that the clamp is extremely low profile and 
>> therefore comfortable to rest your hands on.  
>>
>> My attachment is my opinion on the useful grip area of the Bosco (left) 
>> and the Billie (right)
>>
>> On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 4:05 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> Where are you located, Doug? I have an Albatross in the garage you could 
>>> try in Sacramento. 
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 15:59, Doug Hansford  wrote:
>>>
>>> Leah,
>>> The Billie Bar is intriguing. I would love to be able to try out some 
>>> bars before committing to one. Feedback always helps though. You’re right 
>>> the top tube is s long even on the earlier Clems. I think on the 52 H 
>>> the ETT is about 60 cm. So I will need something swept back for sure. 
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>>
>>> Doug, I have Boscos on my 2019 Clem and it needs them. The expanded geo 
>>> on that 2019 frame made me need an 8 cm stem and Boscos and there’s still a 
>>> reach! I don’t think you’ll have that same issue because you have a grilver 
>>> Clem, and those came out before Rivendell changed the geometry. But I 
>>> wonder if your Clem would like a Billie bar… Wish you lived next door and 
>>> we could try it out!
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Doug Hansford  wrote:
>>>
>>> I am most interested in a handlebar discussion. I’ve mostly ridden drops 
>>> on the road and straight bars off-road but am looking for options for my 
>>> Clem build. Albatross seems to be the one I’m leaning toward but am open to 
>>> hear what others think. I had Boscos on my first Clem (didn’t keep it long) 
>>> and agree with you Leah they came back a touch too close to me. 
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>>
>>> Also, here’s an article Will wrote with some hard facts and numbers 
>>> regarding Rivendell’s bar lineup:
>>>
>>> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

2021-05-17 Thread Bones
I think it really all depends on where you like to put your hands. I love 
the Billie Bars too, because I like to move my hands back and forth. My 
wife only ever seemed to hold the end of the Boscos on her 52 Clem (10cm 
stem), so when I put her Platypus together I had two options ready: more 
Boscos on a 12-13cm Tallux or Albatross on an 85cm fillet brazed 
flaceplater. In the end I chose the Boscos for aesthetic purposes. No doubt 
I would have had to max out the stem to make the Billies or Chocos work. 
Rise was as big a factor as reach for her. You can accomplish the same 
thing a few different ways. With respect to the hand positions on the 
Boscos, that forward position seems to work best when the bars are angled 
down a good bit and/or low enough.

Bones

On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 7:22:43 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Leah, I think you absolutely made the right call going with a Billie bar.  
> That bar has bar-none (heh) the largest range of fore-aft hand positions of 
> the options I'm familiar with.  On the Boscos, while it's common practice 
> to wrap the bar ahead of the brake lever, I don't see how anyone makes 
> decent use of this area as a hand position.  However, while the Billie 
> extends back almost as far for cruising along, you can very comfortably and 
> naturally slide your hands all the way into the front "hooks", which is a 
> bunch of inches forward.  These bars are so long your stem length does 
> little more than determine where along the bar you put your brake levers - 
> I suggest positioning them for your most popular hand position;  Rivendell 
> puts them further back on the bar than I would, I like 1.5 grip's worth 
> about behind the levers, and it's still comfortable to put your hands 
> forward even if they rest atop the levers partially.  
>
> Tangentially related, a surprise benefit to the Paul levers, beyond their 
> incredibly smooth operation, is that the clamp is extremely low profile and 
> therefore comfortable to rest your hands on.  
>
> My attachment is my opinion on the useful grip area of the Bosco (left) 
> and the Billie (right)
>
> On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 4:05 PM  wrote:
>
>> Where are you located, Doug? I have an Albatross in the garage you could 
>> try in Sacramento. 
>>
>> On May 17, 2021, at 15:59, Doug Hansford  wrote:
>>
>> Leah,
>> The Billie Bar is intriguing. I would love to be able to try out some 
>> bars before committing to one. Feedback always helps though. You’re right 
>> the top tube is s long even on the earlier Clems. I think on the 52 H 
>> the ETT is about 60 cm. So I will need something swept back for sure. 
>> Doug
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 17, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>
>> Doug, I have Boscos on my 2019 Clem and it needs them. The expanded geo 
>> on that 2019 frame made me need an 8 cm stem and Boscos and there’s still a 
>> reach! I don’t think you’ll have that same issue because you have a grilver 
>> Clem, and those came out before Rivendell changed the geometry. But I 
>> wonder if your Clem would like a Billie bar… Wish you lived next door and 
>> we could try it out!
>>
>> On May 17, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Doug Hansford  wrote:
>>
>> I am most interested in a handlebar discussion. I’ve mostly ridden drops 
>> on the road and straight bars off-road but am looking for options for my 
>> Clem build. Albatross seems to be the one I’m leaning toward but am open to 
>> hear what others think. I had Boscos on my first Clem (didn’t keep it long) 
>> and agree with you Leah they came back a touch too close to me. 
>> Doug
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 17, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>
>> Also, here’s an article Will wrote with some hard facts and numbers 
>> regarding Rivendell’s bar lineup:
>>
>> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/176999224484/an-overview-of-our-upright-bars
>>
>> On May 17, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone wanna talk handlebars? I went with my standard Bosco bars, 
>> but the more miles I ride, the more I’m irritated that the bars feel too 
>> close to me. I have cramping in my right wrist (not my left, don’t ask why, 
>> I have no idea and it makes no sense!) when I go really hard and it hurts 
>> enough that I have actually said “ow!” out loud.I’ve also been known to 
>> sing and dance on my bike so the locals are used to this behavior by now. 
>> Anyway, I have a 9 cm Nitto XL stem (it is 280mm vs the 225 mm Tallux) on 
>> there because the 10 cm wasn’t available. I just ordered a Billie bar, 
>> which I’m hoping pulls the bars away from me enou

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

2021-05-17 Thread Bones
Tom I noticed the same thing when trying to put the same kickstand on my 
wife's Platypus. I may have been able to squeeze it in but it would have 
rubbed the tire anyway so I didn't bother trying. FYI 48 Gravel Kings on 
Pacenti Brevets and they measure 50mm tubeless.

Bones

On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 1:50:07 PM UTC-4 Tom Wyland wrote:

> That kickstand looks great!  Mine is all black and tarnished.  Want to 
> hear an odd one?  My Pletscher 2-leg kickstand (like Phillip's pictured) 
> wouldn't fit on the mounts on my Platypus.  It was too narrow by a couple 
> of mm.  So I got a different kickstand.  Quality control issue I guess.
>
> Tom
>

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[RBW] Re: Update on my tire question

2021-05-16 Thread Bones
That bike looks awesome! I have a 59 Clem H in Grilver. Love it. It's 
slowly starting to look like something from Mad Max. I am curious about the 
tire width though. Those rims look like the stock DM24s, which are a hair 
wider than the Cliffhangers I use. I mounted Antelope Hills on them and 
they measured 56mm (slightly wider than advertised). Mine are tubeless 
though. Maybe that has an impact on the width. Either way, glad you like 
'em. Great tires. I hope some day you get the chance to try tubeless. I 
won't be going back to tubes on any of my larger tires.

Enjoy!
Bones

On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 9:21:06 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:

> Sharp looking bike.  I run RH Snoqualmie Pass tires on my Hillborne and 
> use the widest Mr. Tuffy's available for 700c tires.  That stops a lot of 
> goatheads, though the protection is primarily in the center of the tire, 
> about 33mm wide protection area.  So occasionally one will get through 
> outside the protection zone.   Thankfully here is SoCal, goatheads are a 
> problem in the fall only.  
>
> On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 5:50:36 PM UTC-7 ezre...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> A couple weeks ago, I asked for advice on my tires/flats issue and 
>> tubeless. Well here is what I've done from all that information you lovely 
>> people provided. I decided not to go tubeless, the wheels were too 
>> expensive, and doing it without proper tubeless wheels seemed like too much 
>> of a faff. I swapped my tires to Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass, the standard 
>> casing version. And I bought a bottle of the Muc-off inner tube sealant. I 
>> haven't however, put it into my tubes. It arrived so much later than the 
>> tires, and I just haven't gotten around to it. I've had one flat on the 
>> tires so far, from our arch nemesis the goathead. The tires themselves 
>> though, I am very pleased with. They roll sublimely and seem to cause me 
>> less exertion. Maybe this is placebo effect, because I spent so much money 
>> on them! But placebo or not, I really do like them. And I just adore how 
>> they look. One niggle I have with them, is the fact that they don't 
>> actually measure up to the full 2.3 inches. They measure just under 2.1 
>> when pumped up to 30psi. Which is actually on par to what Rene Herse say 
>> they will measure out to. I just don't get why they don't label them 2.1 
>> inch. I can forgive this though, given the fact that both of these tires 
>> combined, weigh less than one of my Marathons! So after about 350 km, no 
>> sealant, and one puncture, I'm very pleased with them
>> On a side note, whilst I had my wheels off, I finally removed the plastic 
>> spoke protector. That saved me 36 grams, and Clementine the indignity of 
>> that thing! But now I swear my hub sounds louder when coasting. Maybe the 
>> disc was projecting the sound away from me. Oh well 路‍♀️
>> Christine in Denver
>> [image: IMG_2098.jpeg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: 700c Wheel recommendations

2021-05-14 Thread Bones
I've used 700c Dyads, Atlases, and Cliffhangers on my 62 Appaloosa and 62 
Sam. I'm a pretty lean fella. On the Sam I definitely preferred the Dyads, 
being more of a roadish bike and having 44mm tires. But for the Appaloosa 
(and my Clems for that matter) I pretty much swear by Cliffhangers now. The 
Atlas is an excellent rim but in my opinion you get more with the 
Cliffhanger. The weight difference as compared to the Atlas is really 
negligible, especially if you go tubeless on the Cliffhangers. And if you 
don't want to, well you can down the road if you change your mind. The 
Cliffhangers are stiffer and they also work great with the range of tire 
widths that I have found to be ideal for the Appaloosa (48-54ish). Bonus: 
you get some extra width from the tire as compared to the Atlas. Good Luck!

Bones

On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 10:43:28 PM UTC-4 Jeffrey Arita wrote:

> Kushan,
>
> I am a very big fan of Velocity rims (A23s, Dyads, Fusions).  My latest 
> wheelbuild used Velocity Quills (36H).  I use them on a monster cross bike 
> and they are much more laterally stiff vs. the A23s (as Velocity so 
> indicates).  Point and go and steering is dead-on.  Tough, I've taken them 
> over rough off-road terrain.  Quills can handle tubeless tires in the range 
> you are looking for (I am currently running 43mm Panaracer GravelKing SSs).
>
> On another note I have found it very difficult to buy Velocity Quills (out 
> of stock).  I resorted to purchasing what was available and I just received 
> a pair of DTSwiss R460 rim-brake rims.  Dead-ringer for the Quills as far 
> as profile goes.  Per the sticker on the rim, it says it can accomodate up 
> to 56mm wide tires tubed or tubeless.  I paid just under $56 for each.  32 
> hole max only, though.  Have your local bike shop build them up for you - 
> just another option.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jeff 
>
> On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 2:01:37 PM UTC-7 Kushan wrote:
>
>> Hi all - 
>>
>> I am looking for some 700c wheel recommendations for an Appaloosa build 
>> project. I plan to use it for everyday recreational riding and long weekend 
>> rides (50-100 miles). While most of my riding will be on paved roads, I 
>> don't want to worry if I hit an occasional dirt or gravel patch on the way 
>> (I currently ride a Roadini and off road riding isn't very confidence 
>> inspiring). I don't plan to carry much weight on the bike but I am a heavy 
>> fella (200+ lbs) so the wheel effectively will end up carrying some weight. 
>> I plan to set it up as tubed but, if possible, would like to try tubeless 
>> conversion in future as well (though this is not a dealbreaker). I plan to 
>> run 48 - 50 mm tires. 
>>
>> Custom builds are out of budget so I am looking for some recommendation 
>> on full wheelsets (new or used). My current top contender is Velocity 
>> Cliffhangers 
>> <https://www.rivbike.com/collections/wheels/products/650b-27-5-velocity-built-riv-cliff-hanger-wheel-kit>.
>>  
>> While this checks all the boxes above, my main concern is whether they are 
>> overkill for my mostly payment riding style. 
>>
>> Best
>> Kushan 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Saddle, SS Cranks, Dynamos, Thomson Stuff, Swift Bag

2021-05-11 Thread Bones
26.8 Thomson stem sold.

Still have:

Brooks B17 Honey $100 - barely used, less than 100mi. Not yet broken in. 
Some minor signs of wear

Shimano DH-3N72 Dynamo Hub (36H) $75 - comes with quick release. Also used 
probably less than 100mi.

SRAM S300 Courier Crankset (170mm) $90 - like new, purchased a few years 
ago. I think I mounted them but not sure I ever rode on them. Comes with BB.

Thomson X2 Stem 110 x 31.8mm $75 - light wear

Thanks,
Bones

On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 8:36:58 AM UTC-4 Bones wrote:

> The following items have been claimed:
>
> -27.2 Thomson stem
> -Kasai hub
> -Swift bag
>
> Thanks,
> Bones
> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 1:42:52 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:
>
>> [image: B17.JPG][image: DH-3N72.JPG][image: RB.JPG][image: 
>> srams300x170.JPG][image: thomson26.8x330.01.JPG][image: 
>> thomson27.2x410.01.JPG][image: thomsonx2x110.02.JPG][image: 
>> zeitgeist01.JPG][image: zeitgeist02.JPG][image: zeitgeist03.JPG]
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Saddle, SS Cranks, Dynamos, Thomson Stuff, Swift Bag

2021-05-10 Thread Bones
The following items have been claimed:

-27.2 Thomson stem
-Kasai hub
-Swift bag

Thanks,
Bones
On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 1:42:52 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:

> [image: B17.JPG][image: DH-3N72.JPG][image: RB.JPG][image: 
> srams300x170.JPG][image: thomson26.8x330.01.JPG][image: 
> thomson27.2x410.01.JPG][image: thomsonx2x110.02.JPG][image: 
> zeitgeist01.JPG][image: zeitgeist02.JPG][image: zeitgeist03.JPG]
>
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[RBW] FS: Saddle, SS Cranks, Dynamos, Thomson Stuff, Swift Bag

2021-05-09 Thread Bones
All prices include shipping CONUS. I'll do my best to get this stuff out in 
the first half of the week.

Brooks B17 Honey $100 - barely used, less than 100mi. Not yet broken in. 
Some minor signs of wear

Shimano DH-3N72 Dynamo Hub (36H) $75 - comes with quick release. Also used 
probably less than 100mi.

Kasai RB Dynamo Hub (36H) $75 - no quick release. A bit more use than the 
shimano above, also in great shape.

SRAM S300 Courier Crankset (170mm) $90 - like new, purchased a few years 
ago. I think I mounted them but not sure I ever rode on them. Comes with BB.

Thomson Elite Seatpost 330 x 26.8mm  $75 - light wear

Thomson Elite Seatpost Setback 410 x 27.2mm $75 - light wear. This one was 
barely used.

Thomson X2 Stem 110 x 31.8mm $75 - light wear

Swift Zeitgeist Saddlebag $150 - this is from the 2019 batch, when they 
still had leather straps. Very light use on this one, did not use it very 
much. Normal wear and tear on the straps

Thanks for looking!
Bones



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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

2021-04-12 Thread Bones
Don't forget they may need to crack open the boxes to slide in the "wonderful 
DVD on the platypus, filmed (naturally) in Australia by an award winning 
duo of biologists and platypus-lovers!"

Bones

On Monday, April 12, 2021 at 9:30:24 AM UTC-4 Tom Wyland wrote:

> I would have thought that the "no prep" frame-only orders could just be 
> labeled and shipped. I didn't think that they even cracked open the boxes. 
>
> I haven't gotten any updates on my no-prep order yet.
>
> For what it's worth I called Rivendell back in (spring??) 2019 asking 
> about purchasing a Joe A. Will talked me out of the Joe and into this 
> future Mixte. So I can wait another week or two.
>
> Tom
>

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Re: [RBW] daily post ur riv

2021-04-12 Thread Bones
Brendonoid, thanks. I've only had it for a few months now but so far I am 
enjoying it. I wanted something a bit different from my other bikes, and 
I'd never ridden a rando-ish bike before. I use it primarily as my work 
commuter. I carry it up and down stairs when I get to work so it checked a 
lot of boxes for me: it is smaller and leaner than the Hillborne I was 
using, front rack-able, fender-able with decent tire clearances, and has a 
threaded headset. It feels plenty quick, comfortable with the albatrosses 
and it's fun to ride.

Bones

On Monday, April 12, 2021 at 9:32:27 AM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:

> I figured the first to be a Nash Rambler as well. 
>
> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
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>
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 3:26 AM, 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> What are those cars?!
> First one suggests Nash or Rambler. But the other four look more modern. 
> And, very cute! Maybe something Peugeot or Renault would have made in the 
> 90s (80s?)
>
> David Lipsky
> Berkeley, CA
>
>
> On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 8:23:05 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> No rain to dodge here, despite being in one of the wettest climates of 
>> this board (the PNW, specifically Vancouver BC), and also one of the 
>> warmest days so far this year. 
>>
>> [image: PXL_20210411_202801070.jpg]
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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

2021-04-07 Thread Bones
I never get tired of looking at that bike. I had my Appaloosa set up in a 
very similar fashion. I am seldom able to leave town these days but I'm 
glad some of you folks are living my dream!

Bones

On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 5:13:32 AM UTC-4 John Rinker wrote:

> Hunq on tour in Japan.
> [image: HunqKyushu.jpeg]
>
> On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 6:37:56 AM UTC+9 Ray Evans wrote:
>
>> Soma-Riv San Marcos v2 on the bluffs at More Mesa, Santa Barbara
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 12:20 PM JRStern11 via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Jason, great to see how much you love that bike.  
>>>
>>> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 12:38 PM, Jason Fuller  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Joel - cheers!  I'm at around 1550 km on the Bombadil odometer now, 
>>> which surpasses how much mileage I put on the Clem by 400 km - and in half 
>>> the time!
>>>
>>> JS - They are XTR M980 cranks, apparently the last 104 BCD version 
>>> before going to the non-symmetric bolt pattern. I bought the matching outer 
>>> ring on closeout from Universal but turns out I need extra long chainring 
>>> bolts to use it, so it remains in the parts bin :)   
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 4 April 2021 at 15:41:14 UTC-7 J Schwartz wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jason, what is that crank you're using? 
>>>> I've seen it on a few bikes and have been curious what it is.
>>>> JS
>>>> On Sunday, April 4, 2021 at 3:00:49 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ol' Bomby the other day, picking up a Simworks rack and black Wald 
>>>>> (note the double basket up front) for the MB-1 project.  I've got a real 
>>>>> sturdy set of wheels on order for the Bombadil (Cliffhangers to SON/White 
>>>>> Ind), then it's "done", and my hope is to start wearing parts out, rather 
>>>>> than upgrade for no good reason haha   
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: PXL_20210401_020111383.jpg]
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, 1 February 2019 at 11:29:13 UTC-8 Adam Leibow wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> hi all, i want to create a thread where you just post a picture of 
>>>>>> your rivendell(s) whenever you feel like it. hope this is OK w/ the 
>>>>>> mods. i 
>>>>>> love lookin at pics of em all day. i will start with my sam hillborne.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: IMG_3920.jpeg]
>>>>>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB Tallux Stem

2021-03-28 Thread Bones
PM sent.

On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 1:27:13 PM UTC-4 zem...@gmail.com wrote:

> 26 clamp, 50mm reach. Riv is out, so hoping to get lucky here. 
>
> Pick-up/ship to Washington DC
>
> Thanks!
>
> Zack
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[RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Appaloosa F/F/HS

2021-03-05 Thread Bones
Update: I've decided to keep the frame. Yet another failed attempt at being 
rational. This frame clearly means too much to me. Thanks for the interest!

Bones

On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 2:42:47 PM UTC-5 Edwin W wrote:

> Ben,
>
> That's an interesting question: To   "With my butt on the saddle I can get 
> my tippy toes of one foot to touch the ground." You replied: "Shouldn't 
> this be true of any bike, regardless of standover height?" 
>
> Imagine a very steep seat tube angle - saddle almost directly above the 
> pedals vs a very slack seat tube angle- the saddle quite behind the bottom 
> bracket. Even if you kept the bottom bracket height the same (there is some 
> variablity between "low" road bikes and "high" cross bikes) you could 
> imagine the difference. Even with 75 and 71 degree seat angle the 
> difference can be noticeable - close to an inch.
>
> Does that make sense?
>
> Edwin
>
> On Monday, January 18, 2021 at 11:37:15 PM UTC-6 Ben Miller wrote:
>
>> Friend said: "With my butt on the saddle I can get my tippy toes of one 
>> foot to touch the ground."
>>
>> Shouldn't this be true of any bike, regardless of standover height?
>>
>> On Monday, January 18, 2021 at 6:15:57 AM UTC-8 Friend wrote:
>>
>>> I'm 6'2" with a 92cm PBH and I ride a 62cm Appaloosa with 45mm tires. 
>>>  With my butt on the saddle I can get my tippy toes of one foot to touch 
>>> the ground.  Stand over is right at my groin bone.  I would ride it any 
>>> smaller or any larger.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 10:11:50 AM UTC-5 boblo...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> David,
>>>>
>>>> Here is a chart from the Riv site:  
>>>> https://www.rivbike.com/pages/pubic-bone-height-how-to-measure-your-pbh
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>> On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 8:13:00 AM UTC-6 David Wadstrup wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good morning, Bones,
>>>>>
>>>>> Just sent a PM.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone able to tell me what the PBH range is for this 62cm frame? 
>>>>> I've hunted around online and can't turn anything up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks all!
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>> On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 10:07:04 AM UTC-5 Bones wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bump. I'll drop the price for local pickup to $900. Make me an offer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bones
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 3:35:29 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> $1000 shipped CONUS or can arrange for local pickup (NJ, outside of 
>>>>>>> Philadelphia)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ever since I moved the kiddos over to my Cargo Clem I've had a hard 
>>>>>>> time finding a job for my Apploosa. It's a wonderful bike but I simply 
>>>>>>> do 
>>>>>>> not need an All-Rounder while I have other bikes better suited to each 
>>>>>>> type 
>>>>>>> of riding I do. Two years of beausage. No dents or dings other than 
>>>>>>> some 
>>>>>>> mild depressions on the chainstays from the super-duper kickstand I 
>>>>>>> used to 
>>>>>>> use. There are some moderate scrapes near the crank and inside the 
>>>>>>> drive 
>>>>>>> side chainstay (loose chain incident). Other small scrapes here and 
>>>>>>> there. 
>>>>>>> The attached pictures should show it all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please PM me with any questions. Thanks!
>>>>>>> Bones
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Hub Area Rack back in stock.

2021-02-19 Thread Bones
Heads up to the heads up... my notification that it was in stock went to my 
spam bin. I even made sure to re-sign up for the newsletter once the site 
was updated (always used to get my product notifications). I've been 
waiting for that rack for a long time. Boy did that thing disappear 
quickly!

Bones

On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 10:24:10 PM UTC-5 David B wrote:

> Just a heads up for those waiting for a Nitto Hub Area rack. Rivendell has 
> them back in stock as of this afternoon. I've been waiting on one for a 
> long while - kind of assumed they wouldn't bring them back, but they did - 
> and I have one ordered.
> David
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[RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Appaloosa F/F/HS

2021-02-17 Thread Bones
Been busy at work and lost sight of this. Frame is still available, feel 
free to PM me if you are interested.

Bones

On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 9:30:09 AM UTC-5 Friend wrote:

>
> Ah, good point.  The standover, at 92cm PBH, is just short of the groin 
> bone.  That's the important piece.
> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 12:37:15 AM UTC-5 Ben Miller wrote:
>
>> Friend said: "With my butt on the saddle I can get my tippy toes of one 
>> foot to touch the ground."
>>
>> Shouldn't this be true of any bike, regardless of standover height?
>>
>> On Monday, January 18, 2021 at 6:15:57 AM UTC-8 Friend wrote:
>>
>>> I'm 6'2" with a 92cm PBH and I ride a 62cm Appaloosa with 45mm tires. 
>>>  With my butt on the saddle I can get my tippy toes of one foot to touch 
>>> the ground.  Stand over is right at my groin bone.  I would ride it any 
>>> smaller or any larger.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 10:11:50 AM UTC-5 boblo...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> David,
>>>>
>>>> Here is a chart from the Riv site:  
>>>> https://www.rivbike.com/pages/pubic-bone-height-how-to-measure-your-pbh
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>> On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 8:13:00 AM UTC-6 David Wadstrup wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good morning, Bones,
>>>>>
>>>>> Just sent a PM.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone able to tell me what the PBH range is for this 62cm frame? 
>>>>> I've hunted around online and can't turn anything up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks all!
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>> On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 10:07:04 AM UTC-5 Bones wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bump. I'll drop the price for local pickup to $900. Make me an offer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bones
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 3:35:29 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> $1000 shipped CONUS or can arrange for local pickup (NJ, outside of 
>>>>>>> Philadelphia)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ever since I moved the kiddos over to my Cargo Clem I've had a hard 
>>>>>>> time finding a job for my Apploosa. It's a wonderful bike but I simply 
>>>>>>> do 
>>>>>>> not need an All-Rounder while I have other bikes better suited to each 
>>>>>>> type 
>>>>>>> of riding I do. Two years of beausage. No dents or dings other than 
>>>>>>> some 
>>>>>>> mild depressions on the chainstays from the super-duper kickstand I 
>>>>>>> used to 
>>>>>>> use. There are some moderate scrapes near the crank and inside the 
>>>>>>> drive 
>>>>>>> side chainstay (loose chain incident). Other small scrapes here and 
>>>>>>> there. 
>>>>>>> The attached pictures should show it all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please PM me with any questions. Thanks!
>>>>>>> Bones
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Thanks and shout out to LBS

2021-01-30 Thread Bones
Looks great Adam! I'm glad you didn't hesitate to take it right out into 
the elements where it belongs. That bike will do anything you want it to do.

Bones

On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 4:22:53 PM UTC-5 Adam wrote:

> Hi, new member here, been gathering a lot of info and thought I'd say 
> thanks.
>
> Just wanted to thank the list--particularly the member who sold me the 
> Hillborne frame a month or so ago. (won't call you out by name in case 
> that's not what you want)
>
> I had it built up by a great "newish" LBS, Keystone Bicycle Co 
> <https://keystone.bike/coop> here in Philly. If anyone in the area 
> doesn't know about them (I didn't) it's a great shop. They did a wonderful, 
> very simple build and were amazing to work with (so much great attention to 
> detail, and super patient with my questions, decisions, etc)
>
> The bike's amazing, took it for a little ride in the cold rain yesterday, 
> I'm blown away by the handling and responsiveness. I somehow didn't expect 
> it to be so fast.
>
> [image: PXL_20210126_192214101~2.jpg]
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne vs A. Homer Hilsen

2021-01-30 Thread Bones
In an email back in early September, Will mentioned that they have 
lengthened the chainstays on the newest Sams. The 60cm now has 48.5cm 
chainstays... which is pretty close to the 61.5 Homer (49cm). Tubing, tire 
clearance and brake type seem to be what sets them apart.

Bones

On Saturday, January 30, 2021 at 6:16:04 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> "Sam shorter than Homer"
>
> My guess is it's an older design they've decided to leave alone for buyers 
> wary of the super-long stays of the newer models. 
>
> On Saturday, January 30, 2021 at 12:36:42 PM UTC-8 Sean B. wrote:
>
>> Why do you think the chainstays on the Hillborne are shorter than the 
>> AHH? With the AHH being more of a roadish bike, I would imagine it would be 
>> opposite. 
>>
>> On Sunday, September 6, 2020 at 10:35:49 AM UTC-5 bjmi...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What I really like about Rivendell is that they do have a handful of 
>>> frames that will work for you no matter what...and that there are little 
>>> nuanced differences between Sam/Homer, Atlantis/Joe, etc... The differences 
>>> in sizing between the two helps cover all pbh sizes...I'm a touch over 
>>> 93cm, so a Homer (which I was planning on getting until recently) is tough 
>>> because I'd have more clearance than I need on a 61.5 , but might not have 
>>> enough clearance on a 64. The Sam's most recent run had a 62cm frame that 
>>> would be a perfect fit for me. Had I not just ordered an Atlantis the 
>>> Tuesday before they released the garage sale frames, I would have snagged 
>>> that 62cm orange Sam and would have got to keep using sidepull brakes. 
>>>
>>> I agree that having Sam and Homer offer different braking makes 
>>> sense...the Homer is less burly (according to Rivendell's catalog) so it 
>>> makes sense that it takes the more traditional roadie brakes. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 6, 2020 at 10:07:05 AM UTC-5 ted wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'll guess the Sam has gone back to being canti because the Homer is 
>>>> now MIT also. Now costs are similar (same?), both have 6 deg top tubes, 
>>>> etc. May as well make the brakes different.
>>>> I think choosing between a new Sam or Homer based on brake style 
>>>> preference would make a lot of sense.
>>>> Of course I also think choosing based on preferred color, head badge, 
>>>> or name would make a lot of sense too.
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, September 5, 2020 at 7:56:14 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> How the canti-Sam became a sidepull-Sam early on involves a guess on 
>>>>> my part based on more arcane Riv knowledge than I should probably admit 
>>>>> to 
>>>>> harboring:
>>>>>
>>>>> Originally the Sam showed up as a canti MIT version of the 
>>>>> Toyo/Waterford Saluki/Homer caliper bike. I believe the caliper Ram was 
>>>>> still around at this time, too, so Riv was all full up on caliper road 
>>>>> bikes. Later the Ram went away and Homer kept getting more expensive so 
>>>>> Sam 
>>>>> morphed into the caliper road/country "standard" Rivbike. Now things are 
>>>>> all different and I won't try to figure out why it's canti again, I've 
>>>>> been 
>>>>> arcane enough!
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe "he knows too much, yet is so little help" Bernard 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, September 5, 2020 at 7:10:37 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> From an engineering perspective, what I appreciate about side-pull 
>>>>>> brakes is that all the clamping forces are contained within the brake 
>>>>>> itself, ie it does not exert any bending force on the fork/frame like a 
>>>>>> canti or v-brake does. Even the braking force goes to the crown of the 
>>>>>> fork 
>>>>>> rather than the blades, so the fork blades can focus on other things. 
>>>>>> That 
>>>>>> said, the tire clearance limitation is a problem if you like anything 
>>>>>> bigger than a 42c. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reminds me - James told me via email that the Charlie H Gallop is 
>>>>>> going to be side-pull rather than v-brake like the prototypes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 7:01 PM ted  wrote:
>>>>>

[RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Appaloosa F/F/HS

2021-01-16 Thread Bones
Bump. I'll drop the price for local pickup to $900. Make me an offer.

Bones

On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 3:35:29 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote:

> $1000 shipped CONUS or can arrange for local pickup (NJ, outside of 
> Philadelphia)
>
> Ever since I moved the kiddos over to my Cargo Clem I've had a hard time 
> finding a job for my Apploosa. It's a wonderful bike but I simply do not 
> need an All-Rounder while I have other bikes better suited to each type of 
> riding I do. Two years of beausage. No dents or dings other than some mild 
> depressions on the chainstays from the super-duper kickstand I used to use. 
> There are some moderate scrapes near the crank and inside the drive side 
> chainstay (loose chain incident). Other small scrapes here and there. The 
> attached pictures should show it all.
>
> Please PM me with any questions. Thanks!
> Bones
>

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[RBW] Re: Any Simworks Fun 3 Bar users out there?

2021-01-10 Thread Bones
Thanks Collin

Bones

On Thursday, January 7, 2021 at 1:12:17 PM UTC-5 Collin A wrote:

> I liked them more than the Get-rounds, mostly because the grips position 
> was further back (thanks long top-tube rivs) and the 30-ish deg backsweep 
> agreed with my setup. Also works great for bag strapping.
>
> Highly recommended, and I even have a set of the crmo sitting sadly in my 
> parts box...
>
> Cheers,
> Collin in Sacramento
>
> On Thursday, January 7, 2021 at 8:52:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>
>> I'm curious about these and how they compare to the Getaround bars. A 
>> little more sweep and rise, good forward position. They look kinda sweet. 
>> Are they?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bones
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Weight question / I'm obviously confused

2021-01-09 Thread Bones
Makes sense to me. I ride around with two kids on my bike all the time 
(first an Appaloosa with one kid in front and one in back, now a Clem L 
with an xtracycle). They both cruise like Impalas. On the other end I 
stripped the stock wheels off my Clem H and put on some cliffhangers + 
thunderburts tubeless and saw a night and day improvement in handling while 
unloaded. Please let us know what else you decide to tie to your bicycle. 
Brilliant.

Bones

On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 6:48:44 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> That's what car ads in the '60s called road-hugging weight. To extend the 
> car analogy, I've had several lighter/smaller ones with decent power, and 
> now a basic big Chevy Impala with a little more power and a LOT more 
> weight. It's probably not any faster than those hot hatches but oh baby 
> does it cruise at 72 without a care in the world. 
>
> Your gorgeous Clem is showing a similar effect. Put more bags and stuff on 
> it and cruise! 
>
> On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 3:37:33 PM UTC-8 Jim Whorton wrote:
>
>> I have a 59cm Clem H that is a little too big for me (I am 6' 1", 89 
>> PBH).  So I was riding it on some hilly pavement today, thinking what a 
>> lumbering hulk this bike is and how I need a smaller one.  I came across a 
>> piece of iron pipe in the road.  I thought, "I need to tie that on my bike 
>> because it will make everything worse, proving my point."  I tied it on the 
>> bike and to my confusion, the bike rode more smoothly.  It felt great.  It 
>> didn't feel faster but it felt easier and just really nice.  Smoother.  The 
>> simplest explanation is that I am confused and imagining things, because 
>> adding pounds to my Clem H should not make it nicer to ride.  Butis it 
>> possible I was not confused?
>>
>> I will try to insert a picture.  
>>
>> Jim in Rochester
>>
>> [image: IMG_1544.jpg]
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Any Simworks Fun 3 Bar users out there?

2021-01-07 Thread Bones
I'm curious about these and how they compare to the Getaround bars. A 
little more sweep and rise, good forward position. They look kinda sweet. 
Are they?

Thanks,
Bones

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Re: [RBW] For Sale: Saddle, Shifters, Crankset, Dynamo

2021-01-06 Thread Bones
Sorry David, you were not. All items have been sold.

Thanks,
Bones

On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 4:56:28 PM UTC-5 David Hays wrote:

> Hi Bones,
> This is David. Was I first person to contact you for the saddle?
> David
>
> On Jan 6, 2021, at 2:37 PM, Bones  wrote:
>
> Hey I can't take credit for that confusion! Sorry, the saddle has already 
> been sold to the first person who contacted me (sorry Philip, someone else 
> contacted me first).
>
> Regards, 
> Bones
>
> On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 2:26:47 PM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> David Hays - you just sent me money, I'm the buyer of the saddle not the 
>> seller! Paypal will not let me reject the transfer, please rescind your end.
>>
>> Bones - I think there's confusion going on here? Did I buy the Brooks or 
>> not?
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 1:15:50 PM UTC-6 Philip Barrett wrote:
>>
>>> That's correct.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 1:14:21 PM UTC-6 David Hays wrote:
>>>
>>>> I’m home.
>>>> Just to confirm: PayPal to philipr...@gmail.com?
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 6, 2021, at 12:44 PM, Philip Barrett  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Same email as the list here - thanks!
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 11:31:35 AM UTC-6 David Hays wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I’ll take it Phillip. Tell me where to PayPal. Thanks. 
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 6, 2021, at 11:50 AM, Philip Barrett  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent you an email on the saddle. Thanks, PB
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, January 5, 2021 at 11:46:32 PM UTC-6 Bones wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Price drop:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> $75 for the saddle, shipped
>>>>>> $175 for the crankset, shipped
>>>>>> $40 for the dynamo, shipped
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bones
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 12:34:42 AM UTC-5 Bones wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shifters are gone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> $50 shipped for the dynamo by the way (oops)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 1:09:52 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All prices include shipping CONUS. If interested please contact me 
>>>>>>>> at extraneous at me dot com.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Brooks Professional Special Saddle (?) -  hardly used, been sitting 
>>>>>>>> around for years. 
>>>>>>>> $100 shipped
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> IRD Defiant Triple Crankset - 175mm arms 48/36/24. I'll include the 
>>>>>>>> recommended bottom bracket (122.5). Also hardly used, too much gearing 
>>>>>>>> for 
>>>>>>>> my application.
>>>>>>>> $200
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Shimano Dura Ace 9 speed shifters - just the shifters, light use
>>>>>>>> $50
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Shimano LX Dynamo - probably less than 100 miles on it. No skewer 
>>>>>>>> included
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Bones
>>>>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] For Sale: Saddle, Shifters, Crankset, Dynamo

2021-01-06 Thread Bones
Hey I can't take credit for that confusion! Sorry, the saddle has already 
been sold to the first person who contacted me (sorry Philip, someone else 
contacted me first).

Regards, 
Bones

On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 2:26:47 PM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> David Hays - you just sent me money, I'm the buyer of the saddle not the 
> seller! Paypal will not let me reject the transfer, please rescind your end.
>
> Bones - I think there's confusion going on here? Did I buy the Brooks or 
> not?
>
> On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 1:15:50 PM UTC-6 Philip Barrett wrote:
>
>> That's correct.
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 1:14:21 PM UTC-6 David Hays wrote:
>>
>>> I’m home.
>>> Just to confirm: PayPal to philipr...@gmail.com?
>>> David
>>>
>>> On Jan 6, 2021, at 12:44 PM, Philip Barrett  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Same email as the list here - thanks!
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 11:31:35 AM UTC-6 David Hays wrote:
>>>
>>>> I’ll take it Phillip. Tell me where to PayPal. Thanks. 
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 6, 2021, at 11:50 AM, Philip Barrett  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sent you an email on the saddle. Thanks, PB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, January 5, 2021 at 11:46:32 PM UTC-6 Bones wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Price drop:
>>>>>
>>>>> $75 for the saddle, shipped
>>>>> $175 for the crankset, shipped
>>>>> $40 for the dynamo, shipped
>>>>>
>>>>> Bones
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 12:34:42 AM UTC-5 Bones wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Shifters are gone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> $50 shipped for the dynamo by the way (oops)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 1:09:52 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All prices include shipping CONUS. If interested please contact me 
>>>>>>> at extraneous at me dot com.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brooks Professional Special Saddle (?) -  hardly used, been sitting 
>>>>>>> around for years. 
>>>>>>> $100 shipped
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IRD Defiant Triple Crankset - 175mm arms 48/36/24. I'll include the 
>>>>>>> recommended bottom bracket (122.5). Also hardly used, too much gearing 
>>>>>>> for 
>>>>>>> my application.
>>>>>>> $200
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shimano Dura Ace 9 speed shifters - just the shifters, light use
>>>>>>> $50
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shimano LX Dynamo - probably less than 100 miles on it. No skewer 
>>>>>>> included
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Bones
>>>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: For Sale: Saddle, Shifters, Crankset, Dynamo

2021-01-06 Thread Bones
Hey all. Apparently I confused everyone. I don't use my gmail but 
apparently that's where everyone contacted me (rather than the above 
address). Sorry about that! I checked my gmail today and responded 
first-come-first serve. All items are spoken for pending payment. I will 
likely throw up some more saddles and dynamos soon though. Thanks for all 
the interest!

Bones

On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 1:10:29 PM UTC-5 j glenn wrote:

> Email sent for Dynamo. thanks
>
> On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 12:48:35 PM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Perfect - I'm going to have you ship straight to my bike store as they're 
>> building up the frame.
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 11:46:52 AM UTC-6 David Hays wrote:
>>
>>> Out for a COVID test. Will PayPal when I get home. 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 6, 2021, at 12:44 PM, Philip Barrett  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Same email as the list here - thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 11:31:35 AM UTC-6 David Hays wrote:
>>>
>>>> I’ll take it Phillip. Tell me where to PayPal. Thanks. 
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 6, 2021, at 11:50 AM, Philip Barrett  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sent you an email on the saddle. Thanks, PB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, January 5, 2021 at 11:46:32 PM UTC-6 Bones wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Price drop:
>>>>>
>>>>> $75 for the saddle, shipped
>>>>> $175 for the crankset, shipped
>>>>> $40 for the dynamo, shipped
>>>>>
>>>>> Bones
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 12:34:42 AM UTC-5 Bones wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Shifters are gone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> $50 shipped for the dynamo by the way (oops)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 1:09:52 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All prices include shipping CONUS. If interested please contact me 
>>>>>>> at extraneous at me dot com.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brooks Professional Special Saddle (?) -  hardly used, been sitting 
>>>>>>> around for years. 
>>>>>>> $100 shipped
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IRD Defiant Triple Crankset - 175mm arms 48/36/24. I'll include the 
>>>>>>> recommended bottom bracket (122.5). Also hardly used, too much gearing 
>>>>>>> for 
>>>>>>> my application.
>>>>>>> $200
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shimano Dura Ace 9 speed shifters - just the shifters, light use
>>>>>>> $50
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shimano LX Dynamo - probably less than 100 miles on it. No skewer 
>>>>>>> included
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Bones
>>>>>>>
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[RBW] Re: For Sale: Saddle, Shifters, Crankset, Dynamo

2021-01-05 Thread Bones
Price drop:

$75 for the saddle, shipped
$175 for the crankset, shipped
$40 for the dynamo, shipped

Bones

On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 12:34:42 AM UTC-5 Bones wrote:

> Shifters are gone.
>
> $50 shipped for the dynamo by the way (oops)
>
> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 1:09:52 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote:
>
>> All prices include shipping CONUS. If interested please contact me at 
>> extraneous at me dot com.
>>
>> Brooks Professional Special Saddle (?) -  hardly used, been sitting 
>> around for years. 
>> $100 shipped
>>
>>
>> IRD Defiant Triple Crankset - 175mm arms 48/36/24. I'll include the 
>> recommended bottom bracket (122.5). Also hardly used, too much gearing for 
>> my application.
>> $200
>>
>> Shimano Dura Ace 9 speed shifters - just the shifters, light use
>> $50
>>
>> Shimano LX Dynamo - probably less than 100 miles on it. No skewer included
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bones
>>
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[RBW] Re: For Sale: Saddle, Shifters, Crankset, Dynamo

2020-12-30 Thread Bones
Shifters are gone.

$50 shipped for the dynamo by the way (oops)

On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 1:09:52 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote:

> All prices include shipping CONUS. If interested please contact me at 
> extraneous at me dot com.
>
> Brooks Professional Special Saddle (?) -  hardly used, been sitting around 
> for years. 
> $100 shipped
>
>
> IRD Defiant Triple Crankset - 175mm arms 48/36/24. I'll include the 
> recommended bottom bracket (122.5). Also hardly used, too much gearing for 
> my application.
> $200
>
> Shimano Dura Ace 9 speed shifters - just the shifters, light use
> $50
>
> Shimano LX Dynamo - probably less than 100 miles on it. No skewer included
>
> Thanks,
> Bones
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Tire Recs

2020-12-20 Thread Bones
I picked up a pair of these last year in 700 x35:

https://www.schwalbetires.com/marathon_winter_plus

Mild winter last year and I didn’t get to use them once! But last week I 
slapped em on my single speed and rode them to work every day (through snow 
and ice). I had a blast! They aren’t cheap, and I won’t get to use them 
much, but I guess that means I should have them for a long time. I have 
ridden Snoqualmie ELs, 38 Shikoros, and 50 Cazaderos pretty extensively and 
I’d recommend any one of them, love em all. If you want a little more 
puncture protection get some Shikoros, they are almost as smooth as the 
Rene Herse. If you see mixed terrain, get the Cazaderos.

Bones

On Sunday, December 20, 2020 at 7:55:31 AM UTC-5 Brady Smith wrote:

> Kai, point taken. This will probably all be gone by end of the week. Now 
> if only I could count on the Port Authority to keep the GWB walkway open!
>
> On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 9:30 PM Michael Morrissey  
> wrote:
>
>> I have a pair of 26” studded schwalbes winter marathons I could sell you. 
>> I moved to Manhattan since Covid hit and I just walk to work instead of 
>> biking now, so I’m not rocking the studded tires this season. Studded tires 
>> are awesome. 
>>
>> If not, I recommend some other type of Schwalbe tires. 
>>
>> On Saturday, December 19, 2020 at 8:44:41 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
>> NY wrote:
>>
>>> Schwalbe Ice Spiker Pros, because January through April's gonna see more 
>>> snow than ever!, probably won't melt until July in Northern Jersey, maybe 
>>> August. 
>>> -Kai
>>>
>>> On Saturday, December 19, 2020 at 7:46:15 PM UTC-5 Brady Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> I put a pair of Snoqualmie Pass tires on my BMC monster cross this 
>>>> spring and rode the hell out of them all summer, but as it gets colder and 
>>>> my riding is increasingly restricted to commuting, I find myself using the 
>>>> bike less and less. Objectively, I've had one puncture in about 1000 
>>>> miles, 
>>>> which is a lot better than the ostensibly tougher Pasela Protites I had on 
>>>> the bike before. But I still don't find the Herse tires especially 
>>>> confidence-inspiring in winter conditions, especially when I can't see the 
>>>> road surface that well. I have some Riv gift credit forthcoming and I'm 
>>>> thinking about getting some Shikoro's or Cazadero's in the 42mm size to 
>>>> put 
>>>> on until brevet season gets going again in the spring. Those of you who've 
>>>> used these Soma tires--is it worth swapping? Or should I trust in the 
>>>> Herse's until experience shows otherwise? 
>>>>
>>>> Brady in Fort Lee, NJ 
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Re: [RBW] Aluminum Fenders for Babyshoe Pass

2020-12-17 Thread Bones
Wow that is beautiful!

Bones

On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 10:15:45 AM UTC-5 S. Greco wrote:

> That coast is beautiful!
>
> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 8:57:31 AM UTC-5 David Hays wrote:
>
>> Beautiful bike Andy.
>> David Hays
>> Buffalo
>>
>> On Dec 16, 2020, at 12:28 AM, Bones  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the input! 
>>
>> Bones
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 4:13:06 PM UTC-5 Kieran J wrote:
>>
>>> You might also consider the VO Zepplin 52mm:
>>> https://velo-orange.com/products/vo-polished-52mm-zeppelin-fenders-650b
>>>
>>> These are my favourite fenders (700c version).
>>>
>>> KJ
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 12:17:25 PM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm sure this has been covered before but I can't seem to dig it up. 
>>>> I'm looking at Rene Herse and Honjo (or anything else). I've only ever 
>>>> used 
>>>> SKS in the past. Which size is my best bet?
>>>>
>>>> Babyshoe Pass (standard casing)
>>>> Velocity A23 rims (set up tubeless)
>>>> Crust Lightning Bolt Canti
>>>>
>>>> Much appreciated,
>>>> Bones
>>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Aluminum Fenders for Babyshoe Pass

2020-12-15 Thread Bones
Thanks for the input! 

Bones

On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 4:13:06 PM UTC-5 Kieran J wrote:

> You might also consider the VO Zepplin 52mm:
> https://velo-orange.com/products/vo-polished-52mm-zeppelin-fenders-650b
>
> These are my favourite fenders (700c version).
>
> KJ
>
>
> On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 12:17:25 PM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>
>> I'm sure this has been covered before but I can't seem to dig it up. I'm 
>> looking at Rene Herse and Honjo (or anything else). I've only ever used SKS 
>> in the past. Which size is my best bet?
>>
>> Babyshoe Pass (standard casing)
>> Velocity A23 rims (set up tubeless)
>> Crust Lightning Bolt Canti
>>
>> Much appreciated,
>> Bones
>>
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[RBW] Re: Wanted: Appaloosa 60cm pics with big tires, thoughts on upright riding position

2020-12-14 Thread Bones
Thanks! I think it's the algae slowly climbing up the back of my house that 
really makes the Grilver pop! To me they are pretty much the same bike, 
though the Clem's geometry is closer to the newer Appaloosa's. I love those 
bullmoose bars but when I put them on my Appaloosa (62.5 TT) they felt too 
close. On the Clem (65.5 TT) they feel just right. I could probably 
consolidate both bikes with one of the newer Appaloosas since they have 
longer TT and apparently have wider clearances too.

Bones

On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 2:00:56 PM UTC-5 Stephen wrote:

> Wow, I'm also reallly drawn to that grilver clem.  Hoping to get a 
> appaloosa of similar size this next round too. Bones, how does your clem 
> compare to your appaloosa?
>
> stephen
>
> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 9:21:07 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>
>> Here is my 62 Appaloosa with 50mm Cazarderos on Cliffhangers (measure a 
>> true 50mm). I fit a 2.1" Thunderburt in the rear but the 2.25" was too 
>> close for comfort. The 2.25" fit fine in the fork but it needed to be 
>> deflated a bit (annoying). Not sure if that has changed with more recent 
>> models. I am never uncomfortable on this bike; I did not build it as an in 
>> the hoods faster pace bike so I can't really comment on that.
>> [image: DSC00759.jpg]
>>
>> And here is my 59 Clem H with 2.25" Thunderburts on Cliffhangers. Plenty 
>> of room. Will probably try 2.5" tires next. This bike is a good fit and 
>> also very comfortable.
>> [image: DSC00324.jpg]
>>
>> Bones
>> On Thursday, December 10, 2020 at 2:53:17 AM UTC-5 brizbarn wrote:
>>
>>> Looking for some photos of a Joe Appaloosa size 60 or 58 with big tires, 
>>> 29x2.25ish.  New to group, hopeful Riv owner. Thinking of getting an orange 
>>> Joe when the next batch comes out.  Most pics on the www are of smaller 
>>> frames, and I'd love to see what the proportions look like on a big frame. 
>>>  Also wonder if the upright riding position that Riv is known for gets 
>>> uncomfortable or hinders hard pedaling.  I'm used to getting in the hoods 
>>> to get a faster pace going. Currently ride a Surly Traveler Check with 
>>> drops, a Panasonic MC4500 vintage mtb, and a FBM bmx.  Feel free to drop 
>>> any insights on the Appaloosa worth knowing before dropping a pretty penny 
>>> on one.  Thanks.  
>>
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[RBW] Aluminum Fenders for Babyshoe Pass

2020-12-14 Thread Bones
I'm sure this has been covered before but I can't seem to dig it up. I'm 
looking at Rene Herse and Honjo (or anything else). I've only ever used SKS 
in the past. Which size is my best bet?

Babyshoe Pass (standard casing)
Velocity A23 rims (set up tubeless)
Crust Lightning Bolt Canti

Much appreciated,
Bones

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[RBW] Re: FS 62 Sam Hillborne Orange Sidepull F/F/HS

2020-12-03 Thread Bones
Bump. $900 shipped CONUS.

Bones

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 2:56:10 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote:

> ...should probably have noted that pickup is from South NJ, Philly area. 
> Sorry about that!
>
> Bones
>
> On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 1:54:34 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote:
>
>>
>> There is currently too much overlap in my stable and I would like to find 
>> my Sam a new home where he can get the attention he deserves. Frame has 
>> been ridden regularly for about a year, kept indoors and maintained. Minor 
>> beausage: some small chips and wear around mounting points. No dents or 
>> scratches. Seat post included (has some scatches on it). 
>>
>> I'm looking for $1000 for pickup. I suppose I'd be open to shipping as 
>> well, though I've never shipped a bike before.
>>
>> Please contact me at extraneous at me dot com if you are interested!
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS 62 Sam Hillborne Orange Sidepull F/F/HS

2020-11-27 Thread Bones
...should probably have noted that pickup is from South NJ, Philly area. 
Sorry about that!

Bones

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 1:54:34 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote:

>
> There is currently too much overlap in my stable and I would like to find 
> my Sam a new home where he can get the attention he deserves. Frame has 
> been ridden regularly for about a year, kept indoors and maintained. Minor 
> beausage: some small chips and wear around mounting points. No dents or 
> scratches. Seat post included (has some scatches on it). 
>
> I'm looking for $1000 for pickup. I suppose I'd be open to shipping as 
> well, though I've never shipped a bike before.
>
> Please contact me at extraneous at me dot com if you are interested!
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Inverted Riser Bars Question 

2020-10-11 Thread Bones
I have chocomooses and chocos. The mooses are made inverted, but I've used 
the chocos both ways. I prefer them inverted, so I generally stick with the 
mooses because they are inverted without raising the stem halfway to the 
moon. My hands feel an ergonomic advantage to the inverted upward bend of 
the bar, but it is not a night and day difference. When I had a child seat 
on the front I need the extra stem length, so I used the chocos.

Bones
On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 6:04:42 AM UTC-4 ☆ Paul ☆ wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
>
> Here's a question that I'm not a good  enough mathematician to answer:
>
> I have a pair of Choco Bars on my Susie that I flipped upside-down to get 
> a more aggressive hand position.  
>
> What I'm wondering is, would I just get the exact same hand position with 
> the bars in their normal (un-flipped) position by just lowering the stem?
>
> I tried flipping and un-flipping the bars and raising and lowering the 
> stem, and it feels different with the bars upside-down. But I can't decide 
> if that's just psychological.
>
> Thank you!
>
> PS: Susie rules.
>
> Paul
>
> [image: IMG_1199.jpeg]
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Fixed gear dropouts and fenders

2020-09-10 Thread Bones
Did your fenders come with the quick release clips? I have SKS fenders on 
my Wabi and I just pull the struts right out of the clips, replace the 
wheel, and clip the struts back in. Hope that helps.

Bones 
On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 7:04:59 PM UTC-4 Erik Wright wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> Speaking to the Simple One / Quickbeam owners out there (or anyone else 
> with this experience)- is there a trick to rear wheel removal with 
> rear-facing horizontal dropouts when you have fenders mounted? I recently 
> set up a Mercier Kilo WT as my city bike, which is basically a track bike 
> with clearance for big tires and fenders. I'm running 700x35 tires with SKS 
> P50 (or 45?) fenders.
>
> Once I got my fenders mounted, I realized I can't easily get the rear 
> wheel out without deflating the tire. I know VO makes the "spring thing" 
> for addressing fender alignment with forward-facing horizontal dropouts, 
> but is there any trick to getting a good fender line with rear-facing 
> dropouts while also being able to easily remove the wheel? Almost like the 
> rear equivalent of a spring thing...
>
> Erik, Philly
>

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[RBW] Re: Tubing between Clem H, Atlantis

2020-08-15 Thread Bones
I do not own an Atlantis but I do have a Clem H (59), Appaloosa (62) and 
Sam (62). You already know the answer but its all in the setup. My Clem is 
a stripped down trail bike. It has Cliffhangers (tubeless) with 2.25 
Thunderburts, bullmoose bars, and no racks. It does not feel any heavier 
than my Sam, and it feels just as fast. I have tossed around the idea of 
trading my Clem H for an Atlantis but I think the truth is that they are 
functionally equivalent, one is just fancier. I imagine that if you set up 
an Atlantis with the same components that you have on your Clem now, it 
would feel about the same. I think some component changes are the best 
first step. If you want it to be much lighter/quicker, you will need to 
remove all the parts that make it a useful utility bike though. I think my 
Appaloosa has the same role your Clem has now, and it works great for that.

Bones

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Hunqapillar 58cm

2020-08-10 Thread Bones
Ya I was biting my tongue. Its a popular and hard to find bike in a good 
size, but that price seems way to high considering the build.

Bones

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[RBW] Re: Earl Craig's Atlantis on the Blug

2020-08-05 Thread Bones
When I pick up my 2TT Sam or Joe (which is frequent, going up and down 
stairs), I don’t have to worry about knocking my frame pump off. Also, it’s 
easier to work on them in my repair stand, as I can clamp on to the lower 
tube without interfering with the rear brake line.

Bones

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[RBW] Re: What role does your Joe A. fill?

2020-08-05 Thread Bones
Yep, sounds like my Joe. It does everything well. I built mine initially to 
attach my young children to, and for that task it was brilliant. Now that they 
are a bit bigger I have attached an Xtracycle to it, and it is still brilliant, 
but I may move that to a different bike because I miss the way it was. I have a 
Wabi single speed I use as my work commuter, but it is also a nice bike so I 
bring it indoors at work.

P.S. Keep an eye on your oxygen saturation there bro, running on the low side. 

Bones

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[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

2020-08-03 Thread Bones
P.S. Y’all are going to have to stand on your heads, Google is not cooperating.
Regards,
Bones

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

2020-07-22 Thread Bones
Very helpful, thank you very much. My Rivs are more recent and have sloping top 
tubes. I assumed I could go larger with a level top tube.

Regards,
Bones

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

2020-07-22 Thread Bones
Wow, I’ve been keeping my eye out for one of these. Anyone know the recommended 
saddle height for a 64 (mine is 80)?

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[RBW] FS: Outer Shell (Rivendell version) camera strap

2020-06-29 Thread Bones
Hey I’ll take it if the other sale doesn’t pan out.

Bones

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[RBW] Long enough frame pump for Appaloosa

2020-06-20 Thread Bones
I’ve been using a Zefal HPX 4 on my 62 Appaloosa for over a year and it has 
never budged. I believe the top tubes are the same length. Maybe it’s the 
second top tube that makes it feel more secure, but I never worry about it.

Bones

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[RBW] Biggest Tires on a Roadini?

2020-06-17 Thread Bones
A related question: what is everyone’s favorite tire for their Roadini? I have 
one incoming one of these days, and I was intending on throwing on some Jack 
Brown greens, so I could maybe sneak some fenders on there if I felt like it 
(will be using Paul centerpulls btw). I’ll be using mine nearly all on paved 
roads, and I just want a comfy ride. I’ve run Barlow ELs and currently run 
Snoqualmie ELs on my Sam and I love em. I probably will not use fenders anyway, 
and I’m wondering if I should do Bon Jons instead...

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Re: [RBW] Re: Dynamo Hub Recommendations

2020-05-22 Thread Bones
Yes I used the specs for the PV-8, I had previously read somewhere that they 
were the same. And yes those specs look correct. 

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[RBW] Re: Dynamo Hub Recommendations

2020-05-21 Thread Bones
I’ve built two sets of wheels with those Kasai hubs recently. So far I am 
impressed. I used the PV-8 in a spoke calculator and it worked out just fine.

Bones

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[RBW] Re: Clem H + Xtracycle

2020-04-18 Thread Bones
Wow, lots of useful info, thanks everyone. I'm as confused as ever on which 
way to go though :)

Now I'm wondering how the an xtracycle would work on my Appaloosa. The 
chainstays are a little bit shorter and it's a double top tube so that 
could only help with stability. To date that bike has been the heavy lifter 
anyway. The only real appeal of the the leap kit is to save some money and 
not add another bike to my collection. A BD of BFD would certainly be the 
best way to go. One last option is a 10 year old Novara 29'er that's been 
sleeping in my shed for a few years. It's in great shape, and I was 
intending to offload that at some point, but maybe that would make a good 
candidate for a conversion. Bottom line is the cargo bike will get lots of 
use, and I want to love riding it as much as I have enjoyed riding my 
Appaloosa.

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[RBW] Clem H + Xtracycle

2020-04-17 Thread Bones
Mine is a 59. And yes thanks for the feedback on the ride quality. I’ve read 
similar things in the past. Part of the reason I was thinking of using the Clem 
is because it is a nice sturdy frame. But those chainstays are long, and I 
can’t imagine that is ideal. Maybe a new bike is in store after all. I just 
cringe thinking about having to part with my Clem or Appaloosa.

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[RBW] Clem H + Xtracycle

2020-04-16 Thread Bones
Not sure if this has been discussed here or not, but I'd like to hear 
people's thoughts on this. I spent all of last year carrying both of my 
kids on my Appaloosa (one in front, one in back). They are getting too big 
for that setup now. Though I can still handle the bike with ease, I think 
80lbs is a bit too much for the bike, and it is only going to get worse. So 
my options, so far as I can see, are the following:

1) Get a bike trailer (Burley or Thule or whatnot)
2) Big Dummy or Big Fat Dummy.
3) Add an Xtracycle to my Clem H

I like the idea of using the Clem the most because I really don't want to 
bring another bike or trailer into the house if I can help it, and I really 
like the Clem. So far it has been used as a trail bike, and with a few 
small children around, that means it doesn't get used that often. And that 
is a job my Appaloosa can easily fill. I have no experience with the 
Xtracycle leap kit though, so any suggestions here would be greatly 
appreciated!

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[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters on Shimano barend pods

2020-03-30 Thread Bones
Thanks for the input. I’ve never used either much, and I’ve been riding single 
speed an awful lot the past few years, so I think I’d lean toward downtube 
shifting for the simplicity of it.

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[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters on Shimano barend pods

2020-03-30 Thread Bones
Cool thanks Bill.

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[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters on Shimano barend pods

2020-03-30 Thread Bones
Semi-related: anyone have any luck mounting the new silver 2 shifters to a 
quill stem shifter mount? When I called Riv they weren’t sure, I guess they 
haven’t tried that yet. They mentioned that the older silver shifters work 
fine that way though. I’m contemplating doing downtube shifters or quill 
mount on my new Roadini when it comes in...

On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 6:52:01 PM UTC-4, Mike Blackwell wrote:
>
> I'm replacing the worn out circa ~2000 Shimano barend shifters (DuraAce I 
> think) on my Redwood with Silver 2's. I was thinking I could keep the 
> Shimano bar pods and just swap out the shifters, but now I'm not sure sure. 
> I've attached a picture of what I have (Silver 2 on top, Shimano on bottom).
>
> Looking at just the left side - the Silver 2 comes with a smaller normal 
> flat washer and a larger flat washer with a square hole and a tab sticking 
> out. The old Shimano shifter has a spacer with some intricate internal 
> structure.
>
> To get the spacing right, so the Silver 2 shifter cable exit aligns with 
> the bar pod cable retainer it seems like I need to use the Shimano spacer. 
> The big Silver 2 washer (with square hole and tab) doesn't seem to fit 
> anywhere, I assume that's just for the Silver 2 pod. Not sure if I need the 
> smaller Silver 2 washer, but it seems like I might to keep the pressure 
> across the shifter face even.
>
> The internal structure of the Shimano spacer seems to be the biggest 
> problem - it prevents things from nesting together the way it ought to (I 
> think). Maybe I need to remove some of that internal material?
>
> So - before I start irreversibly filing and Dremelling - am I on the right 
> track here? If anyone's done a similar swapout I'd love to hear about it!
>
> Thanks!  Mike Blackwell
>
>

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[RBW] In Praise of Get Around Bars

2020-03-27 Thread Bones
Those look great. Anyone have any experience with both those and the wavie 
bars? Any preference?

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[RBW] Re: Advice on Crankset for Roadini Preorder

2020-03-21 Thread Bones
Another option I've considered is moving around my current cranks. My 
Hillborne has largely become my work commuter, and with a 7.5mi round trip 
commute, the silver triple it came with is surely overkill. Maybe I should 
put that on the Roadini, move the Sugino wide low from my Appaloosa to the 
Hillborne and order a new Silver wide/low for the Appaloosa (which I've 
always kind of wanted for it anyway) when they are back in stock.

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 1:29:19 AM UTC-4, Evan E. wrote:
>
> Bones,
>
> If you're willing to buy a vintage crank, you could might consider Igor's 
> Specialized "flag" crankset here on this list:
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/oY1zjwPD2KY
>
> Or a vintage Sugino AT. Either one is a classic. And either can be run as 
> a triple, a double, or a single with chainguard.
>
> Or you could buy a new crank from Rivendell?
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Advice on Crankset for Roadini Preorder

2020-03-20 Thread Bones
Ok thanks all, I have a place to start now. I suppose I’ll just slap my 
Sugino on there when it comes and feel it out from there.

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 12:31:50 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> If you have a 42 already, there is little harm in trying it out.  I think 
> chain dropping is a real thing, and a wide-narrow ring is one of several 
> mitigations to reduce its likelihood.  Wolf tooth makes a 130BCD 42 tooth 
> wide narrow ring and I'm sure others do as well.  
> https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/products/130-bcd-cyclocross-chainrings?variant=14782015209507
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 8:29:02 AM UTC-7, Bones wrote:
>>
>> Ya that’s a good idea too. Oddly enough the crank already has a standard 
>> Sugino 42t ring on it. Would that be sufficient? I’ve only ever used it 
>> with a single freewheel. I’ve read things in the past about chains jumping 
>> on 1x setups... is that even a concern with a road bike though?
>>
>> On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 9:42:32 AM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>> It's becoming more and more commonplace to run a 1x drivetrain.  Your 
>>> existing XD2 with a nice narrow-wide ring, intelligently chosen, could be a 
>>> really smart setup.  I've had very good success with a 42T ring, and an 
>>> 11-28 or 11-32 cassette, but I have hills to speak of.  With really no 
>>> hills to speak of, you could go even smaller in the cassette, like 11-26.  
>>> If you are never pedalling over 40MPH then you likely don't need higher 
>>> than a 42x11.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 10:20:51 PM UTC-7, Bones wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I could use some input on what type of crank would work best for me 
>>>> here. I will be using the bike as a sporty, zip around the river bike. No 
>>>> club rides or racing or anything like that. I live in south Jersey, so no 
>>>> hills to speak of, just wind. The wide/lows on my Appaloosa and Clem are 
>>>> perfect, and I don't spend much time on the big ring on my Sam's triple. 
>>>> I'd like to keep the gearing minimal but functional, and of course it has 
>>>> to look handsome on the Roadini. I have an extra RD2 crank from a single 
>>>> speed lying around, maybe I can do something with that? I'm not opposed to 
>>>> getting something new...
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Advice on Crankset for Roadini Preorder

2020-03-20 Thread Bones
Ya that’s a good idea too. Oddly enough the crank already has a standard 
Sugino 42t ring on it. Would that be sufficient? I’ve only ever used it 
with a single freewheel. I’ve read things in the past about chains jumping 
on 1x setups... is that even a concern with a road bike though?

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 9:42:32 AM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> It's becoming more and more commonplace to run a 1x drivetrain.  Your 
> existing XD2 with a nice narrow-wide ring, intelligently chosen, could be a 
> really smart setup.  I've had very good success with a 42T ring, and an 
> 11-28 or 11-32 cassette, but I have hills to speak of.  With really no 
> hills to speak of, you could go even smaller in the cassette, like 11-26.  
> If you are never pedalling over 40MPH then you likely don't need higher 
> than a 42x11.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 10:20:51 PM UTC-7, Bones wrote:
>>
>> I could use some input on what type of crank would work best for me here. 
>> I will be using the bike as a sporty, zip around the river bike. No club 
>> rides or racing or anything like that. I live in south Jersey, so no hills 
>> to speak of, just wind. The wide/lows on my Appaloosa and Clem are perfect, 
>> and I don't spend much time on the big ring on my Sam's triple. I'd like to 
>> keep the gearing minimal but functional, and of course it has to look 
>> handsome on the Roadini. I have an extra RD2 crank from a single speed 
>> lying around, maybe I can do something with that? I'm not opposed to 
>> getting something new...
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Advice on Crankset for Roadini Preorder

2020-03-20 Thread Bones
Thanks for the input. Makes me wonder if I should try to use the Sugino 
crank after all. The limiting factor is that it’s 130bcd, and as far as I 
can tell that limits me to a 38t inner. Maybe that’s good enough. Then the 
question is what to use for a big ring. Is 46t too close? 50t seems maybe 
too big for me, but maybe not. And I’ve seen those IRD cranks before, they 
are beautiful indeed. And if I end up looking at a new crank I will 
strongly consider those. I’m a sucker for aesthetics.

Thanks again,
Bones

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 7:02:38 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote:
>
>
>If you want to spend a lot other people will show you those.  Myself I 
> found that there are many nice crank arms for not a whole lot.  I ride a 
> set of these Origin8 cranks, they are 110 BCD doubles, though often sold as 
> SS. They can take two rings, just like any other double crank. Shiny silver 
> or black, both look nice.  If you can fit your gears into a 110 double 
> platform you will like them, which without much for hills should be just 
> fine. My road bike that I use this crank on has a 13-32 7sp FW with 36/46 
> rings and I live amidst some very steep hills and all is well.  There's so 
> many ways to play with ring combos too. I like doubles and triples, whether 
> the rings are spaced out or close together, you can always get a good 
> chainline. I have 24/36/44 rings on my other bike with 14-32 7 cogs and I 
> love the 44t big ring it's very ride-able across a broad range.  I had not 
> planned on using the 44t ring, but I had one lying around unused, so 
> thought I'd try it and it's awesome. I'd use a 44t big ring on my other 
> bike too when/if the 46 needs replaced.  
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000AO7O8M/ref=twister_B00R6R3ZPM?th=1=1
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 1:20:51 AM UTC-4, Bones wrote:
>>
>> I could use some input on what type of crank would work best for me here. 
>> I will be using the bike as a sporty, zip around the river bike. No club 
>> rides or racing or anything like that. I live in south Jersey, so no hills 
>> to speak of, just wind. The wide/lows on my Appaloosa and Clem are perfect, 
>> and I don't spend much time on the big ring on my Sam's triple. I'd like to 
>> keep the gearing minimal but functional, and of course it has to look 
>> handsome on the Roadini. I have an extra RD2 crank from a single speed 
>> lying around, maybe I can do something with that? I'm not opposed to 
>> getting something new...
>>
>

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[RBW] Advice on Crankset for Roadini Preorder

2020-03-19 Thread Bones
I could use some input on what type of crank would work best for me here. I 
will be using the bike as a sporty, zip around the river bike. No club 
rides or racing or anything like that. I live in south Jersey, so no hills 
to speak of, just wind. The wide/lows on my Appaloosa and Clem are perfect, 
and I don't spend much time on the big ring on my Sam's triple. I'd like to 
keep the gearing minimal but functional, and of course it has to look 
handsome on the Roadini. I have an extra RD2 crank from a single speed 
lying around, maybe I can do something with that? I'm not opposed to 
getting something new...

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