[RBW] Re: Very cool bottle dynamo, CNC machined in Germany
Well, after talking with Jeff Jones, it seems like the Schmidt SON 28 135mm hub would actually work, since it has a through axle. I will need to talk with Peter White and make sure that this should actually work, I guess. i'm always tempted to go the route of dynamo hub if I'm going to be spending lots of money anyway, because they're the utmost for reliability in any weather. The reason I wouldn't want just a battery powered light is because multiple day touring in the backcountry is part of my plan for this bike, and I'd rather be able to easily charge my phone and have a constant light source. On Friday, January 2, 2015 9:33:40 PM UTC-8, Ryan Christbaum wrote: I'd love to do a full-on lighting system, but man, for $50 you can get a completely reliable, light weight and very bright light. Admittedly, I hate remembering to charge, but for another $50 I have a backup in case. That and a Planet Bike flasher w/ Enloop rechargeables (with a second set on hand) have been totally reliable and very satisfactory for me. Not as neat as the high-tech stuff, but... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Very cool bottle dynamo, CNC machined in Germany
Oh, I didn't realize the BM was a good, functional little bottle dynamo. It makes sense now that the light would be underpowered, since the Velogical puts out 1.5W and the headlight takes 2.3. I think I may start with just using something like a Cygolite Trion 1300 on the Jones and then if I want dynamo power, I could run an E-Werk as the battery charger for that. I'd like to have a bonafide daytime running light, but it seems like the best strategy with a bottle dynamo would be to just go for recharging a battery pack. $60 as opposed to $160 is certainly attractive though! On Thursday, January 1, 2015 7:08:42 AM UTC-8, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro wrote: I have seen LED lights sec'd as low as 1 W, and it may be that the new StVZO standard anticipates these. Shimano, FWIW, also manufactures dynohubs that put out power in the 1.5W range. I did have the impression that the Edelux (I used an Edelux and Pixeo as a test bed) was slightly underpowered by the Velogical. I don't know whether you'd need a brake track to run this; the O-ring is pretty grippy. The nice thing about the brake track is that if it get super wet, you can clear it with a touch of the brakes. Again, just in case it needs to be repeated, this is designed to run on the RIM, not the TIRE. But the BM dynamo can also run on the rim. It's a very light, elegant solution. But it's very costly, and I think that the BM dynamo (for example) would likely do a fine job in its place. As for powering something like a USB charger in addition to a headlight, it can do that. I didn't test it for great periods of time, but my phone (a Lumia) did show that it was charging. If anyone has any questions they want addressed on the Velogical, I'll try to answer them from my experience. On Wednesday, December 31, 2014 6:42:57 PM UTC-5, Mike Shaljian wrote: I was talking with Jeff Jones about lighting options with his 29+ bikes (which can't run a disk SON hub because of 142mm spacing) and he said that one of his customers had good results with this fancy model: http://www.velogical-engineering.com/rim-dynamo-en I'm considering it for the 29+ I want to build, I could power a headlight alone up front and also a BM E-werk for charging batteries. Seems like a good solution to the one drawback of the 29+ model (no dynohub). I'm also wondering if some battery-powered lights (Cygolite, Light Motion) have advanced to the point of being tolerable to use now in terms of reliability. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Very cool bottle dynamo, CNC machined in Germany
So if yo had to pick one bottle dynamo, would it be the Velogical? The (seemingly) lower power output is a little offputting to me, but I really think I will want to use it as a battery recharger rather than on a constant dynamo. It certainly has a nicer form factor than the BM! On Thursday, January 1, 2015 2:02:17 PM UTC-8, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro wrote: Here's my take on the BM (Dymotec) unit: http://lawschoolissoover.wordpress.com/2014/08/09/the-shocking-truth-part-5-bottle-generators/ If you want to read the whole series (heh) start here: http://lawschoolissoover.wordpress.com/2014/07/20/the-shocking-truth/ On Thursday, January 1, 2015 1:57:50 PM UTC-5, Mike Shaljian wrote: Oh, I didn't realize the BM was a good, functional little bottle dynamo. It makes sense now that the light would be underpowered, since the Velogical puts out 1.5W and the headlight takes 2.3. I think I may start with just using something like a Cygolite Trion 1300 on the Jones and then if I want dynamo power, I could run an E-Werk as the battery charger for that. I'd like to have a bonafide daytime running light, but it seems like the best strategy with a bottle dynamo would be to just go for recharging a battery pack. $60 as opposed to $160 is certainly attractive though! On Thursday, January 1, 2015 7:08:42 AM UTC-8, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro wrote: I have seen LED lights sec'd as low as 1 W, and it may be that the new StVZO standard anticipates these. Shimano, FWIW, also manufactures dynohubs that put out power in the 1.5W range. I did have the impression that the Edelux (I used an Edelux and Pixeo as a test bed) was slightly underpowered by the Velogical. I don't know whether you'd need a brake track to run this; the O-ring is pretty grippy. The nice thing about the brake track is that if it get super wet, you can clear it with a touch of the brakes. Again, just in case it needs to be repeated, this is designed to run on the RIM, not the TIRE. But the BM dynamo can also run on the rim. It's a very light, elegant solution. But it's very costly, and I think that the BM dynamo (for example) would likely do a fine job in its place. As for powering something like a USB charger in addition to a headlight, it can do that. I didn't test it for great periods of time, but my phone (a Lumia) did show that it was charging. If anyone has any questions they want addressed on the Velogical, I'll try to answer them from my experience. On Wednesday, December 31, 2014 6:42:57 PM UTC-5, Mike Shaljian wrote: I was talking with Jeff Jones about lighting options with his 29+ bikes (which can't run a disk SON hub because of 142mm spacing) and he said that one of his customers had good results with this fancy model: http://www.velogical-engineering.com/rim-dynamo-en I'm considering it for the 29+ I want to build, I could power a headlight alone up front and also a BM E-werk for charging batteries. Seems like a good solution to the one drawback of the 29+ model (no dynohub). I'm also wondering if some battery-powered lights (Cygolite, Light Motion) have advanced to the point of being tolerable to use now in terms of reliability. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Very cool bottle dynamo, CNC machined in Germany
I was talking with Jeff Jones about lighting options with his 29+ bikes (which can't run a disk SON hub because of 142mm spacing) and he said that one of his customers had good results with this fancy model: http://www.velogical-engineering.com/rim-dynamo-en I'm considering it for the 29+ I want to build, I could power a headlight alone up front and also a BM E-werk for charging batteries. Seems like a good solution to the one drawback of the 29+ model (no dynohub). I'm also wondering if some battery-powered lights (Cygolite, Light Motion) have advanced to the point of being tolerable to use now in terms of reliability. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Very cool bottle dynamo, CNC machined in Germany
Very nice writeup and glad to know you think it is very capable! It seems with the favorable exchange rate a new unit would be about $160-$170 shipped. The price of a Jones front hub ($140) plus this is still equal to or less than the cost of a SON wide body i recently bought, and it's a wider stronger front wheel! With having both a dynamo headlight and an E-Werk, this seems like a really great solution. On Wednesday, December 31, 2014 5:22:38 PM UTC-8, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro wrote: I have a Velogical unit, and wrote of my experiences with it here as part of a series on bicycle generators: http://lawschoolissoover.wordpress.com/2014/08/26/something-old-is-new-again-the-velogical-rim-dynamo/ Overall, I'm pretty impressed. HOWEVER, be aware that the Velogical does not supply a full 3 Watt output, and that you *will* notice that your Edelux (or other) 3W light isn't quite as bright. It's a nice unit, and perfect for bikes that can't deal with a dynohub. However, it's not quite perfect, and it *is* expensive. On Wednesday, December 31, 2014 6:50:26 PM UTC-5, Mattt wrote: This is neato. Gotta love those Germans. Hope this works well. I would try it out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Very cool bottle dynamo, CNC machined in Germany
Also, as I understand it, standard LED headlights draw 2.4W of power while the taillight draws 0.6W. If i just run an Edelux up front, shouldn't it run that at full power? I'd like to know if the dynamo lighting is actually decent because I prefer to have a daytime running light. It seems like the dynamo should provide enough juice for a headlight, but one of Jeff's custom customers who found this said his light seemed underpowered, I'm pretty sure. Could also just power a USB battery recharge for something like a cygolite trion, but I think a dynamo headlight would be ideal. On Wednesday, December 31, 2014 5:22:38 PM UTC-8, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro wrote: I have a Velogical unit, and wrote of my experiences with it here as part of a series on bicycle generators: http://lawschoolissoover.wordpress.com/2014/08/26/something-old-is-new-again-the-velogical-rim-dynamo/ Overall, I'm pretty impressed. HOWEVER, be aware that the Velogical does not supply a full 3 Watt output, and that you *will* notice that your Edelux (or other) 3W light isn't quite as bright. It's a nice unit, and perfect for bikes that can't deal with a dynohub. However, it's not quite perfect, and it *is* expensive. On Wednesday, December 31, 2014 6:50:26 PM UTC-5, Mattt wrote: This is neato. Gotta love those Germans. Hope this works well. I would try it out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Very cool bottle dynamo, CNC machined in Germany
Jim, Why would I need rim brake-specific rims? I don't think a dynamo strip or specific sidewall is needed to run this? Am I missing something obvious? - Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, Oregon Outback, Off-roading and the ?: 2 bikes or 2 sets of wheels?
Call it heresy if you wish, but I think the Ultimate gravel and bikepacking bike may have actually arrived: http://www.jonesbikes.com/jones-plus-xt-bb7-build-complete-bicycle-pre-order/ I talk to Jeff for two hours about my riding, preferences and wishes for an all-terrain, all-use bike and this really seems like the best possible option. I'm thinking this fits all of the requirements that Jan Heine talked about in the Oregon Outback article from BQ. And fortunately, it is sized to fit giant people with 86cm PBH's. It really may be a bike with no compromises. On Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:15:24 PM UTC-8, Mike Shaljian wrote: Thanks for the insight, John. It seems that 45mm-max is the verdict for a Sam H. If I wanted the ideal Rivendell for the O.O, it does seem like the Hunqapillar would be the bike, riding a 55mm touring tire like the Schwalbe Almotion. I am considering a used 62cm Hunqapillar as a possibility right now. It seems that my dream of having just one bike to truly do it all would lead to more compromises than I want. Having an always fendered, go-fastish Sam H. with 38mm Barlow Pass tires and a more beefy Hunqapillar with studs/fenders in the winter and 50+mm tires in the dry 7 months of the year here seems like a nice approach, but I'm still considering all of the possibilities. On Tuesday, December 30, 2014 7:36:21 AM UTC-8, Surlyprof wrote: Don't know if it is too late to post on this thread or not but this is a topic I've had very recent experience with. I'm currently riding Schwalbe Mondial 40's with fenders on my new to me 56 Hillborne (the one with cantis). I'm sure it would easily take 45's if I take off the fenders. I seriously doubt I'd get 50's on there. It would be tight. The geometry charts for the 56 SH stated 45 as the max size. I think that might be a good call. The one thing I was surprised to find out was how much rim width mattered. My rims are 24mm wide and all the Schwalbes measure almost actual size (Mondial 40 = 39.7 with calipers). When I rode a Surly Cross Check with Schwalbe Marathon 42's, the rims were 20mm and the tires measured 38 or 39mm with calipers. If I were to buy again, I'd be tempted to buy to sets of tires. 45 knobbies to run without fenders and 35 Supremes to run with for road adventures. I may get a second set of wheels in the future to have the easier swapping capability. If I can figure out a quick release for the SKS fenders, I'd be all set (If anyone has a solution, please pass it on). In the meantime, I'm hanging on to my SOMA Groove and looking to put even fatter tires on that. John On Sunday, November 16, 2014 2:33:17 PM UTC-8, Mike S wrote: So I currently have my Sam Hillborne as my only bike, though I was considering adding a front suspension/disc-brake mountain bike to the stable. There's a deal for a Jamis 650B dragon pro on the interwebs now for $1400, but I'm thinking I could rather add a second set of very nice wheels with fatter tires instead. My main reason to do this is so that first of all, I can have a set of slicks and a set of studded tires in the winter, as I live in a very icy/snowy area and am bummed out by having just studded tank tires to ride in winter. Beyond that, I want to have a set of wheels with a 55mm-ish tire that can handle most gravel/firetrail/light singletrack in a ride like the Oregon Outback, as I am hoping to actually do that ride this summer. It would also just be nice to have this set of wheels that can handle more aggressive off-road riding to go explore different areas where I'm at (Eastern Washington). So, I guess the question I pose to the group is: better to have a second, cheap-ish mountain bike or a second set of really nice wheels to maximize the All-Rounderness of a Hillborne? I've been thinking also about Jan Heine's opinion that a rigid all-road bike with fat tires is the Porsche 911 of a gravel-orientated ride, and I want to stick with that plan. Also, what are some ideas about the best tire model to do this kind of riding? I think that 50-54mm with a moderately aggressive tread would be perfect, but I'm wondering if there is something better than the Smart Sam? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, Oregon Outback, Off-roading and the ?: 2 bikes or 2 sets of wheels?
***96cm PBH And this model is sized at 63.5cm seat tube, very close to my 64cm Sam H. On Tuesday, December 30, 2014 7:06:34 PM UTC-8, Mike Shaljian wrote: Call it heresy if you wish, but I think the Ultimate gravel and bikepacking bike may have actually arrived: http://www.jonesbikes.com/jones-plus-xt-bb7-build-complete-bicycle-pre-order/ I talk to Jeff for two hours about my riding, preferences and wishes for an all-terrain, all-use bike and this really seems like the best possible option. I'm thinking this fits all of the requirements that Jan Heine talked about in the Oregon Outback article from BQ. And fortunately, it is sized to fit giant people with 86cm PBH's. It really may be a bike with no compromises. On Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:15:24 PM UTC-8, Mike Shaljian wrote: Thanks for the insight, John. It seems that 45mm-max is the verdict for a Sam H. If I wanted the ideal Rivendell for the O.O, it does seem like the Hunqapillar would be the bike, riding a 55mm touring tire like the Schwalbe Almotion. I am considering a used 62cm Hunqapillar as a possibility right now. It seems that my dream of having just one bike to truly do it all would lead to more compromises than I want. Having an always fendered, go-fastish Sam H. with 38mm Barlow Pass tires and a more beefy Hunqapillar with studs/fenders in the winter and 50+mm tires in the dry 7 months of the year here seems like a nice approach, but I'm still considering all of the possibilities. On Tuesday, December 30, 2014 7:36:21 AM UTC-8, Surlyprof wrote: Don't know if it is too late to post on this thread or not but this is a topic I've had very recent experience with. I'm currently riding Schwalbe Mondial 40's with fenders on my new to me 56 Hillborne (the one with cantis). I'm sure it would easily take 45's if I take off the fenders. I seriously doubt I'd get 50's on there. It would be tight. The geometry charts for the 56 SH stated 45 as the max size. I think that might be a good call. The one thing I was surprised to find out was how much rim width mattered. My rims are 24mm wide and all the Schwalbes measure almost actual size (Mondial 40 = 39.7 with calipers). When I rode a Surly Cross Check with Schwalbe Marathon 42's, the rims were 20mm and the tires measured 38 or 39mm with calipers. If I were to buy again, I'd be tempted to buy to sets of tires. 45 knobbies to run without fenders and 35 Supremes to run with for road adventures. I may get a second set of wheels in the future to have the easier swapping capability. If I can figure out a quick release for the SKS fenders, I'd be all set (If anyone has a solution, please pass it on). In the meantime, I'm hanging on to my SOMA Groove and looking to put even fatter tires on that. John On Sunday, November 16, 2014 2:33:17 PM UTC-8, Mike S wrote: So I currently have my Sam Hillborne as my only bike, though I was considering adding a front suspension/disc-brake mountain bike to the stable. There's a deal for a Jamis 650B dragon pro on the interwebs now for $1400, but I'm thinking I could rather add a second set of very nice wheels with fatter tires instead. My main reason to do this is so that first of all, I can have a set of slicks and a set of studded tires in the winter, as I live in a very icy/snowy area and am bummed out by having just studded tank tires to ride in winter. Beyond that, I want to have a set of wheels with a 55mm-ish tire that can handle most gravel/firetrail/light singletrack in a ride like the Oregon Outback, as I am hoping to actually do that ride this summer. It would also just be nice to have this set of wheels that can handle more aggressive off-road riding to go explore different areas where I'm at (Eastern Washington). So, I guess the question I pose to the group is: better to have a second, cheap-ish mountain bike or a second set of really nice wheels to maximize the All-Rounderness of a Hillborne? I've been thinking also about Jan Heine's opinion that a rigid all-road bike with fat tires is the Porsche 911 of a gravel-orientated ride, and I want to stick with that plan. Also, what are some ideas about the best tire model to do this kind of riding? I think that 50-54mm with a moderately aggressive tread would be perfect, but I'm wondering if there is something better than the Smart Sam? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, Oregon Outback, Off-roading and the ?: 2 bikes or 2 sets of wheels?
Oh and these are the tires I would be basing the bike on: 1) Schwalbe Super Moto 622-60 2) Schwalbe Marathon Winter 622-50 3) Surly Knard 3 So gravel-grinding tours and general use, ice and snow, and mountain trails ready. Probably would have two wheelsets, with one go-fast and either ice or trail on the other. The ultimate Swiss-Army knife of a bike. Go fast, haul stuff, go off-road, go camping, whatever you want. Yes please! On Tuesday, December 30, 2014 7:57:27 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm, I'm guessing there's enough clearance on the regular diamond 29er to make it into a B+ bike: http://www.jonesbikes.com/steel-diamond-unicrown-bicycle/ On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Mike Shaljian mikesh...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: ***96cm PBH And this model is sized at 63.5cm seat tube, very close to my 64cm Sam H. On Tuesday, December 30, 2014 7:06:34 PM UTC-8, Mike Shaljian wrote: Call it heresy if you wish, but I think the Ultimate gravel and bikepacking bike may have actually arrived: http://www.jonesbikes.com/ jones-plus-xt-bb7-build-complete-bicycle-pre-order/ I talk to Jeff for two hours about my riding, preferences and wishes for an all-terrain, all-use bike and this really seems like the best possible option. I'm thinking this fits all of the requirements that Jan Heine talked about in the Oregon Outback article from BQ. And fortunately, it is sized to fit giant people with 86cm PBH's. It really may be a bike with no compromises. On Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:15:24 PM UTC-8, Mike Shaljian wrote: Thanks for the insight, John. It seems that 45mm-max is the verdict for a Sam H. If I wanted the ideal Rivendell for the O.O, it does seem like the Hunqapillar would be the bike, riding a 55mm touring tire like the Schwalbe Almotion. I am considering a used 62cm Hunqapillar as a possibility right now. It seems that my dream of having just one bike to truly do it all would lead to more compromises than I want. Having an always fendered, go-fastish Sam H. with 38mm Barlow Pass tires and a more beefy Hunqapillar with studs/fenders in the winter and 50+mm tires in the dry 7 months of the year here seems like a nice approach, but I'm still considering all of the possibilities. On Tuesday, December 30, 2014 7:36:21 AM UTC-8, Surlyprof wrote: Don't know if it is too late to post on this thread or not but this is a topic I've had very recent experience with. I'm currently riding Schwalbe Mondial 40's with fenders on my new to me 56 Hillborne (the one with cantis). I'm sure it would easily take 45's if I take off the fenders. I seriously doubt I'd get 50's on there. It would be tight. The geometry charts for the 56 SH stated 45 as the max size. I think that might be a good call. The one thing I was surprised to find out was how much rim width mattered. My rims are 24mm wide and all the Schwalbes measure almost actual size (Mondial 40 = 39.7 with calipers). When I rode a Surly Cross Check with Schwalbe Marathon 42's, the rims were 20mm and the tires measured 38 or 39mm with calipers. If I were to buy again, I'd be tempted to buy to sets of tires. 45 knobbies to run without fenders and 35 Supremes to run with for road adventures. I may get a second set of wheels in the future to have the easier swapping capability. If I can figure out a quick release for the SKS fenders, I'd be all set (If anyone has a solution, please pass it on). In the meantime, I'm hanging on to my SOMA Groove and looking to put even fatter tires on that. John On Sunday, November 16, 2014 2:33:17 PM UTC-8, Mike S wrote: So I currently have my Sam Hillborne as my only bike, though I was considering adding a front suspension/disc-brake mountain bike to the stable. There's a deal for a Jamis 650B dragon pro on the interwebs now for $1400, but I'm thinking I could rather add a second set of very nice wheels with fatter tires instead. My main reason to do this is so that first of all, I can have a set of slicks and a set of studded tires in the winter, as I live in a very icy/snowy area and am bummed out by having just studded tank tires to ride in winter. Beyond that, I want to have a set of wheels with a 55mm-ish tire that can handle most gravel/firetrail/light singletrack in a ride like the Oregon Outback, as I am hoping to actually do that ride this summer. It would also just be nice to have this set of wheels that can handle more aggressive off-road riding to go explore different areas where I'm at (Eastern Washington). So, I guess the question I pose to the group is: better to have a second, cheap-ish mountain bike or a second set of really nice wheels to maximize the All-Rounderness of a Hillborne? I've been thinking also about Jan Heine's opinion that a rigid all-road bike with fat tires is the Porsche 911 of a gravel-orientated ride, and I
[RBW] Installing Tioga Studs on Grip King Pedals
I have an extra set of Tioga grip studs and I just bought some Grip King Pedals, and I was wondering if any of you all know what tools/ procedures are necessary to get the studs to thread into the GK holes. I saw a hand - drill mentioned on RBW's website, but I do not know what that is. So basically, has anybody on here installed these and if so could you please give a brief description of how to do it. I'm sure it's simple, but clarification would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Best Methods for Shellac Application
I recently shellacked some dark blue Japanese cloth tape, and the end result was pretty unsatisfactory. My guess is I put it on way too thick, and when it was dry it had this thick, hideous amber crust all on the surface. It comes off if you rub at it real good, but it looks nothing else some of the beautiful results I've seen on cotton tape with Zinser Amber Shellac. Is the secret applying it very lightly in several coats, and giving ample time to dry between each coat? I really hate to waste anymore of that fine Japanese tape, so any tips would be appreciated. I'm also wondering if it's even worth shellacking at all, I mean does it really add to looks/durability enough to bother? All opinions appreciated, thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: For Sale: My Quickbeam's Stock Wheelset
Sorry for forgetting to include a price. I'm asking $250 for the wheelset $20/ea sh via UPS. On Aug 26, 3:40 pm, Mike Shaljian mikeshalj...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings All, Due to a previously committed buyer backing out, I am again offering up for sale myQuickbeam'sstock wheelset. The wheelset came with myQuickbeamwhich was purchased directly from Rivendell in May. The wheels have been ridden under 100 miles, as they were merely a placeholder until I get some custom wheels built up. They are in superb condition with no significant blemishes, and they are true. The wheelset consists of the following: 32H Mavic Open Sport Rims. Suzue track hubs w/ quick - release skewers (120mm rear/100mm front). Excellent quality spokes of I - don't - know - which make gauge. An 18t Shimano freewheel. * There is also the option of adding a hardly ridden Shimano Dura - Ace track cog for $15. Pictures are available upon request, but you can get the idea of what they look like from theQuickbeamcomplete bike pics on rivbike.com Again, there are no significant defects cosmetic or otherwise with the wheels. Thanks for your interest, Mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] FS: *Brand New* Black Brooks B.17 Standard
Greetings RBW Owners, I bought a B.17 Standard on Ebay a while back for a Ressurectio I'm working on, but I decided to go with a B.17 Special for it instead. Therefore, I need to sell this brand new, still - in - full - packaging Standard black B.17. It also includes the Brooks saddle tensioning wrench twined to original packaging. It will come in the extra fancy box that Brooks sends their stuff out in, and the saddle itself is attached to the company cardboard placard. It has never, ever been used or treated with anything. Picture of a B.17 from Riv here: http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/saddles_and_seat_posts#product=11-055 Price is $90 + $10 s/h = $100. Many thanks for your interest, Mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] For Sale: My Quickbeam's Stock Wheelset
Greetings All, Due to a previously committed buyer backing out, I am again offering up for sale my Quickbeam's stock wheelset. The wheelset came with my Quickbeam which was purchased directly from Rivendell in May. The wheels have been ridden under 100 miles, as they were merely a placeholder until I get some custom wheels built up. They are in superb condition with no significant blemishes, and they are true. The wheelset consists of the following: 32H Mavic Open Sport Rims. Suzue track hubs w/ quick - release skewers (120mm rear/100mm front). Excellent quality spokes of I - don't - know - which make gauge. An 18t Shimano freewheel. * There is also the option of adding a hardly ridden Shimano Dura - Ace track cog for $15. Pictures are available upon request, but you can get the idea of what they look like from the Quickbeam complete bike pics on rivbike.com Again, there are no significant defects cosmetic or otherwise with the wheels. Thanks for your interest, Mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: For Sale: My Quickbeam's Stock Wheelset
This wheelset has been claimed by Rocky. On Aug 24, 9:56 am, Rocky B luggedsteel.fatti...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to purchase if its still available. -Rocky On Aug 23, 8:09 pm, Mike Shaljian mikeshalj...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings All, I am looking to sell the stock wheelset from the Quickbeam I purchased directly from Rivendell in May of this year. I had the wheels on for just a couple weeks and rode definitely under 100 miles on them. I've since replaced them with Phil/Mavic A719 custom wheels, so I just have no need for them -- there is absolutely nothing wrong with them, they're 99.9% true too. The wheels consist of a 32h Mavic Open Sport rim, Suzue high - flange track hubs w/ quick release skewers (120mm rear/100mm front), and I'm sure very good spokes of I - don't - know - which make and gauge. They have a Polylite plastic rim strip. I would be happy to get a picture up for a prospective buyer, but I can't get to it at the time of posting, right here and now. The wheels are in like new condition with no significant blemishes or defects. When I spoke with John @ Riv before buying and I asked him what the estimated value of the wheels would be if they were sold as a standalone wheelset, he said about $350. Being that they have rolled off the showroom floor, I'm offering them here for $250/set + s/h. I believe the shipping will be $20 per wheel. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] For Sale: My Quickbeam's Stock Wheelset
Greetings All, I am looking to sell the stock wheelset from the Quickbeam I purchased directly from Rivendell in May of this year. I had the wheels on for just a couple weeks and rode definitely under 100 miles on them. I've since replaced them with Phil/Mavic A719 custom wheels, so I just have no need for them -- there is absolutely nothing wrong with them, they're 99.9% true too. The wheels consist of a 32h Mavic Open Sport rim, Suzue high - flange track hubs w/ quick release skewers (120mm rear/100mm front), and I'm sure very good spokes of I - don't - know - which make and gauge. They have a Polylite plastic rim strip. I would be happy to get a picture up for a prospective buyer, but I can't get to it at the time of posting, right here and now. The wheels are in like new condition with no significant blemishes or defects. When I spoke with John @ Riv before buying and I asked him what the estimated value of the wheels would be if they were sold as a standalone wheelset, he said about $350. Being that they have rolled off the showroom floor, I'm offering them here for $250/set + s/h. I believe the shipping will be $20 per wheel. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
