[RBW] Re: My First Rivendell

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Paul,

Congratulations on your first Rivendell!  I bought my first riv--Joe 
Appaloosa-- 5 months ago and could not be happier. Now, riding is 100% 
pleasurable with 0% pain.  Love the upright-ness.  I was contemplating a 
Clem; it's a nice ride and you got a great color. 

Hope you have lots of good miles on it.

Roberta

On Sunday, September 17, 2017 at 11:21:18 AM UTC-4, Paul Choi wrote:

>
> 
> Just picked up my first Rivendell in Walnut Creek. I took a one hour ride 
> on Saturday and it was just so comfortable. It was just so weird not having 
> any weight on my hands. Such a different but awesome experience. I'm hooked!
>

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[RBW] Re: Gravel & Grind's Semi Annual Rivendell / Bridgestone / Crust owners ride and social

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Thanks for all the great pictures, John.  I'm really glad to have met you 
and everyone on the ride--what a nice group.

I wasn't able to get past the first 8 miles of "hills," so I turned back 
about 8 miles in. That's 8 miles of uphill, only steep in one area--the 
last--, but never ending slight incline the first 7.5 miles.  I ride in 
flat, flat Philadelphia and am not used to inclines.  Deacon Patrick, I tip 
my riding helmet to you!  

Still lots of fun and good conversation.  The ride and the day was great 
for us up "north." I hope no one in the south was hit too hard with Irma.

Roberta

On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 10:09:43 AM UTC-4, John G wrote:

> Perfect weather and fine folks make for a good time.
>  1 Hubbuhhubbuh, 2 Hunqapilars, 1 Atlantis, 1 Joe Appaloosa, 1 Haro Mary 
> XC, 1 Brompton, 1 Crust Romanceur, 1 Quickbeam
>
> I took a few photos:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/14612032@N00/sets/72157686498243834
>
> Cheers,
>  John G, Union Bridge, MD
>
>
> On Saturday, September 9, 2017 at 3:27:20 PM UTC-4, REC wrote:
>>
>> Bump, for those who may have missed this and might be interested. 
>> Tomorrow should be a beautiful day for a ride in MD. 
>
>

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[RBW] Gravel & Grind's Semi Annual Rivendell / Bridgestone / Crust owners ride and social

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Bump, for those who may have missed this and might be interested. Tomorrow 
should be a beautiful day for a ride in MD. 

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[RBW] Re: Gravel & Grind's Semi Annual Rivendell / Bridgestone / Crust owners ride and social

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I don't have the strength to do 40 miles, but I can do part of that.  Is 
anyone planning on going?  It's a three hour drive for me, but would be 
worthwhile if I could meet some of the most awesome east coast folks on 
this forum.

Roberta

On Friday, August 18, 2017 at 12:59:46 PM UTC-4, Gravel & Grind Espresso + 
Bikes wrote:

> Rivendell / Bridgestone / Crust owners bunch ride at Gravel & Grind 
>  
> in 
> Frederick MD on Sept 10th. Bring your B-stone(s), oogle at other rad bikes, 
> and do a 40ish mile mixed surface ride with ice cream thrown in the mix. 
> Sept 10th.  Lots of demo-able Riv's and Crust to check out too, if ya want! 
>  Email me at james (at) gravelandgrind (dot) com for more info, don't post 
> here with questions.
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: New Clem L

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Hi, Lum.

Weight is an issue for me, because I have to lift a bike high to store it 
on the bike wall rack (it's the upper most bike) in a long narrow hallway.  
I know bike stores think I'm nuts, but I make sure I can lift every bike I 
consider.  I could not lift the 2016 Clementine; perhaps the 2017s are 
lighter.  I can lift my Joe A. with rack and bags, but it's not easy, 
especially when I'm tired from my ride.  I was able to lift a Cheviot and 
it was a lot lighter than I thought it would be.  I own the Joe.

Probably more subjective than you're looking for, but perhaps this will 
help a little.  I'm in my late 50's and this is part of my strength 
training  :)  . 



Hi, Mark in Beacon.

I use a bungee cord to keep my front wheel from flopping around when 
lifting it.  hook on water bottle cage, thru wheel, back to water bottle 
cage.



Roberta  

On Thursday, August 17, 2017 at 3:43:57 PM UTC-4, lum gim fong wrote:

> Hi Joe,
>
> How much does your Clem L weigh?
> Looking for something lighter than 32lbs. complete for the wife. 
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 56 Hillborne, $1350 (w/photos)

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Congratulations on your new ride.  I went to my local dealer fully expecting to 
buy a sam, but went home with a joe, so I'm especially looking forward to your 
comparisons.

Happy riding!

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[RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

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I am lucky enough to have two riv dealers within a 3 hour drive, although 
I've only been to and purchased from one. 

I'd only heard of riv for a few months before I went on a test ride of 
atlantis and cheviot.  I might have ridden a sam also.   I spoke a few 
times with Riv corp about which ones would be best for me, and then I went 
down again a few months later and rode sam and appaloosa,  which is the one 
I bought on the spot.

Now, with a few different  rides and information from this board, if I 
wanted another riv, and couldn't test it prior to purchase, I would trust 
rivendell recommendation.  

Still, without having a local dealer with built up stock, I never would 
have made this first purchase.

On Thursdeday, August 10, 2017 at 5:08:54 PM UTC-4, Daniel D. wrote:
>
> I hopped right on the Roadini.  Since it's a pre-order with a wait, a 
> tinge of worry has creeped in. I've never bought a bike before taking a 
> spin on it let alone not being able to touch it or a pre-order.  Will I 
> like it, will parts selection be a pain in the butt, what if it rides like 
> my drop bar touring bike, look at that shiny titanium thing over 
> thereblah blah blah
>
> Should've grabbed that $1600 minty choco-bar orange Sam...nah I wanted 
> something roadieish
>

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[RBW] Re: New Clem L

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It's a beauty.  I'm glad you're just as happy with this as you were with 
the appaloosa. 

On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 6:21:31 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Got it yesterday, did a few miles shakedown/adjust-stuff ride today. To 
> steal Velouria's blog name, what a lovely bike! It has the magical 
> smooth-but-maneuverable Riv ride, and boy is that low toptube nice at when 
> hopping on and off. After years of enjoying the low stepover of folding 
> bikes, I find the high tube on "regular" bikes a mostly unnecessary 
> obstacle, so this is wonderful (bonus: no bars crashing into tubes!).
>
> Details: Those Boscos reach WAY back; I'll be lopping an inch off before 
> the next ride. 
>
> The SunRace shifters are reversed 9-speed click/friction, and only the 
> right friction-only shifter has any kind of ratchet effect when pushing to 
> lower/easier cogs. The original ratchety shifters on the first Clem run had 
> a lot of clicks on both sides, both directions, and I found them hard to 
> operate on the demo Clem H I ride last year. To help explain what's new: if 
> you mounted these normally, they're the same as Shimano bar-ends with pure 
> friction front, index or pure friction rear. As installed they both work 
> great in friction mode.
>
> The gearing is perfect with 38-24 chainrings and pie plate 9-speed 
> cassette. Grant's right, it's hard to imagine why you would need a big ring 
> up front.
>
> Although the ride is similar - maybe a little more relaxed/cushy - to the 
> Appaloosa I sold, the vibe is VERY different. With the sit-up riding 
> position, mixte frame, and certainly with the green paint on this one, 
> there's very much a "Raleigh 3-speed" thing going on which I get a kick out 
> of. I rode in my standard costume of MUSA shorts, Pletscher T-shirt and Riv 
> fake-leather gloves..all good..but this is the first time my swoopy 
> Specialized helmet and Oakley M Frames felt completely ridiculous on a 
> bicycle. I think I need a beret! 
>
> I love the heart seatlug, which only works on mixte frames. It sits high, 
> proud and pretty, and leaves the impression (in my mind) of someone 
> creating a lug, then designing a bicycle around it. Here's some pics I took 
> today and yep...I forgot to do a lug closeup. Doh!
>
> https://goo.gl/photos/P4TKso4xaSWNDA6Y9
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Finally, I have Riv

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Congratulations on your new love.  I hope you have many happy rides with it.

On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 7:36:14 PM UTC-4, Bill in Roswell GA wrote:
>
> Bobs and Rivs,
>
> A big thanks to Bill Hammond for the "long term loan" of his metallic 
> pearl orange Rambouillet, size 54. I've been watching on here for years 
> waiting on an orange Ram in my size. Wonder of wonders, Bill put his up for 
> sale just down the road a couple of hours away. Bill still rides his Riv 
> custom regularly!
>
> Bill bought the Ram from the original owner, Bill Davis perhaps? Anyways, 
> it was appropriate to keep this Riv Ram in the Bill lineage (other Bills 
> will approve, I'm sure). 
>
> Most of configuration is close to original with a few mods over the years: 
> 8 speed with Suntour bar ends, Tektro/Cane Creek brake levers, Suntour 
> Mountech crazy long front der., Brooks B-17, bar is Nitto 176 (think Noodle 
> was orig), Tektro 556 long reach brakes, 105 long rear der, Technomic stem. 
> Ruffy Tuffy tires on Araya TX350/Deore Paralax hubs. Pedals are clones of 
> Deore clipless (maybe MKS). Shiny Deore 5 bolt triple crankset. 
>
> First change was for fit. Needed the bars lower to be saddle height as the 
> Technomic was way too tall when bottomed out. Had a Pearl on hand for a 
> quick swap. Also added a Nitto M-13 rack for an Acorn Compact Rando bag 
> which puts the top of the bag equal with the bars. May eventually add 
> Shimano bar ends because the shape fits my hand a bit better, but that is a 
> minor thing for a rainy winter day. 
>
> The only drivetrain change was to see how lighter wheels would feel. 
> Swapped out the Araya/Deore for Open Pro/Ultegra running 33mm tires. 
> Lighter wheels really livened up the frame and made it feel snappy. I'll 
> get a wheelset with wider rims to accomodate 37mm-as-measured tires (Will 
> at Riv said that was the max for sure). 
>
> Due to toe clip overlap, I won't be mounting fenders except for tours 
> where rain can be expected. I was hoping not to have TCO, but all of my 
> road bikes have it due to smallish 54 frames. Only my MTB with slack head 
> tube doesn't have TCO. One of these days I'll get a custom frame without 
> TCO!
>
> Cheers,
> Bill in Roswell, GA
>

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[RBW] Re: Saddle height vs PBH

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I have PBH of 83.  My B17 is set at 71.25.  I have the pedals that came 
with the bike and wear sneakers, marketed as "walking shoes."  

Roberta  

On Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 7:20:50 PM UTC-4, Christopher Cote wrote:

> I'm curious how many here find that Grant's "rule" about saddle height 
> being 10-11cm lower than PBH to be true for them. My PBH is 86cm and for 
> the longest time, ran my saddle at 75cm from the center of the cranks. 
> Lately, I switched from clipless pedals to flats, and now that the weather 
> is warm, I have been riding in Bedrock Sandals. Because the soles are so 
> thin, I had to lower my saddle a bit. I've also been dealing with some knee 
> pain and came across these articles: 
> https://www.stevehoggbikefitting.com/blog/2011/02/seat-height-how-hard-can-it-be/
>  and 
>
> https://www.stevehoggbikefitting.com/bikefit/2011/05/addendum-to-seat-height-how-hard-can-it-be-2/.
>  
> I think a lot of what he says is going on for me: knee and back pain, 
> tilted hips, pedaling toes-down, etc. I went for a ride this morning and 
> stopped to lower my saddle a few times. No new knee pain (same as before), 
> and now I feel like I can pedal with a more level foot. My legs are still 
> pretty far extended at the bottom of the stroke, and I can't reach them at 
> the bottom with my heels (another possibly flawed guide for setting saddle 
> height). When I got home I measured the saddle height at 73cm. I know the 
> Bedrock sandals are thin, but I doubt they're 2cm thinner than my clipless 
> pedals and shoe combo. Maybe the additional sole flex makes them 
> effectively even thinner? 
>
> Chris
>

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[RBW] PSA: Sam Hillborne 48cm for sale

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I saw this on the Washington, DC Craigslist, and the owner said it would be 
OK for me to pass on the info here.  
https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/bik/6235419464.html

It's too small for me and I see they are no longer making this size.  No 
relation to the owner.

Roberta

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Re: [RBW] WTB: new or nearly new black or honey Brooks Flyer

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Thanks. This one was sold by the time I looked but I did just order one for 
just a little more. I like supporting my lbs, but the price difference was too 
much. 

Roberta

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> On Jul 23, 2017, at 9:34 PM, Jonathan D.  wrote:
> 
> Amazon has an open box one like new for $97 with free shipping. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: new or nearly new black or honey Brooks Flyer

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Thanks. This is good to know about. 

Roberta

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> On Jul 23, 2017, at 10:02 PM, Bob Lovejoy <boblove...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Roberta,
> 
> I do not have a Flyer but I will recommend keeping an eye on Bill Laine's 
> (wallbikeparts) sales on ebay.  Bill owned and ran Wallingford Bike Parts 
> before retiring (I think) and now sells stock on eBay.  He is highly 
> respected and, from everything I know I know, one of the best...
> 
> An example:
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-Brooks-Countess-saddle-rare-/112485305813?hash=item1a30a58dd5:g:F9IAAOSwq~tZQA4q
> 
> Good luck in the search!
> 
> Bob Lovejoy
> Galesburg, IL
> 
> 
>> On Sunday, July 23, 2017 at 8:26:43 PM UTC-5, REC wrote:
>> I'd like to try a Brooks Flyer on my Joe Appaloosa.  It currently has a B17 
>> saddle. 
>>  
>> Does anyone have either a new or nearly new black or honey Flyer you want to 
>> sell?  Please PM me and let me know how much you'd like.  I missed out on 
>> one recently offered here.
>>  
>> Thanks,
>> Roberta
>> 
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[RBW] Re: Ride report / 1st tour on my Cheviot

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What a lovely ride; thanks for sharing.  It looks doable for those of us 
(me) not in good shape. Thanks, also, for the links.

Roberta

On Sunday, July 23, 2017 at 7:21:13 PM UTC-4, WETH wrote:

> Ride report/ first tour on Cheviot
>
> After commuting 1500 miles since October on my 60cm Cheviot, I figured it 
> was past time to undertake a tour with it.  My ride report on the credit 
> card tour is here:
> https://lightofferings.wordpress.com/2017/07/23/gap-trail-july-2017/
>
> The Cheviot of course lived up to my expectations.  Loaded with a large 
> Saddlesack on the rear and a basket with a Shopsack on the front, it was 
> steady, quick when needed, and comfortable.  My daily commute is 8 miles 
> each way with stops about every 2 miles for traffic lights.  I did need to 
> tweak handlebar height and angle so I was comfortable for longer distances 
> without a break.  I circumvented the single set of bottle mounts on the 
> Cheviot by carrying a bottle in the front basket and one in the Saddlesack, 
> a workable solution.  The Shopsack held my clothes and toiletries, and the 
> Saddlesack housed tools, snacks, extra sandals, raincoat, and 1st aid kit, 
> with plenty of room to add a tent and sleeping bag for when I camp.  I look 
> forward to more touring on this great bike!
>
>

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[RBW] WTB: new or nearly new black or honey Brooks Flyer

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I'd like to try a Brooks Flyer on my Joe Appaloosa.  It currently has a B17 
saddle. 

 

Does anyone have either a new or nearly new black or honey Flyer you want 
to sell?  Please PM me and let me know how much you'd like.  I missed out 
on one recently offered here.

 

Thanks,

Roberta

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[RBW] WTB: New or nearly new Brooks flyer--black or honey (ignore other post with same subject)

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I'd like to change my B17 saddle on my Joe Appaloosa for a black or honey 
Flyer. 

 

Does anyone have either a new or nearly new (in good shape) Flyer you'd 
want to sell?  Please PM me and let me know how much you'd like.  I missed 
out on one recently offered here.

 

Thanks,

Roberta

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[RBW] WTB: New or nearly new Brooks flyer--black or honey

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Wanting to change my B17 saddle on my Joe Appaloosa for a black or honey 
Flyer. 

Does anyone have either a new or nearly new (in good shape) one you'd want 
to sell?  Please PM me and let me know how much you'd like.  I missed out 
on one recently offered here.

Thanks,
Roberta

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[RBW] Re: FS: 2017 Appaloosa 51cm green

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I thought it was just a few that were being sold.  I love my Joe A.  It's 
my first Riv. 

On Friday, July 21, 2017 at 11:11:40 AM UTC-4, Davey Two Shoes wrote:
>
> It IS odd how many Joes have come up for sale.
>
> Clem FTW!! lol
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Appaloosa 51cm and question about the 46cm size

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Ash just posted a WTS 51 Appaloosa.  I sent him your info.  Here's his.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/47sCkyQ3U3k

I love my Appaloosa.

Roberta

On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 5:12:20 PM UTC-4, RJ March wrote:

> This is my first post and I have been driven to it by a (mild) 
> desperation. Here's the story: I was looking to buy a Riv bike and settled 
> on the Joe Appaloosa. I went on the Riv website and was able to purchase a 
> 51cm Hi Ho Silver Joe Appaloosa. Amazing! I thought. A week later, I got a 
> call and sincere apology from Vince at Riv that this was a glitch in the 
> system and they have no more 51cm Appaloosas, at all. Not so amazing, I 
> thought. 
>
> I am now appealing to any of you all - any chance anyone out there wants 
> to part ways with their 51cm Appaloosa? 
>
> Alternatively, since my PBH is 79, Riv offered me a 46cm Appaloosa. I 
> think it would end up feeling like a pretty small bike. I would love to get 
> in on the ride experience of the Appaloosa but not at the expense of fit. I 
> have no Riv shops in my area. Has anyone been in a similar situation 
> between the 46 and 51 Appaloosa? 
>
> I am thinking I will stick with a 51cm size and go with a Sam Hillborne, 
> even though I am not a big fan of the caliper brake set up and would be 
> somewhat limited on touring - though I read on here that the Sam can haul, 
> too. 
>  
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Appaloosa 51cm and question about the 46cm size

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I meant keep a second bike for me at WORK.  This is too aggressive for me, 
so I've passed.  Perhaps good for you.

I have been looking for used Rivs on Craigslist, so I can keep a second 
bike at home.  I don't know much about Bridgestone bikes, but I've seen 
this for a few weeks and it's still available.  I *think* it's from one of 
our members and might be acceptable quick replacement:  
https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/bik/d/bridgestone-xo/6202919510.html

On Tuesday, July 18, 2017 at 5:22:37 PM UTC-4, REC wrote:

> I think I purchased the last 51 Joe A from Gravel and Grind (it IS a cool 
> shop) in April, but if they have one, that would be great for you.  It's a 
> wonderful bike!  My next favorite was the Atlantis, but that was out of my 
> budget.   And, I don't even do any touring!
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Appaloosa 51cm and question about the 46cm size

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I think I purchased the last 51 Joe A from Gravel and Grind (it IS a cool 
shop) in April, but if they have one, that would be great for you.  It's a 
wonderful bike!  My next favorite was the Atlantis, but that was out of my 
budget.   And, I don't even do any touring!

I have been looking for used Rivs on Craigslist, so I can keep a second 
bike at home.  I don't know much about Bridgestone bikes, but I've seen 
this for a few weeks and it's still available.  I *think* it's from one of 
our members and might be acceptable quick replacement:  
https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/bik/d/bridgestone-xo/6202919510.html

Bridgestone XO-2 - $425 (Fairfax, VA)  
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condition: *excellent* 
make / manufacturer: *Bridgestone* 
model name / number: *XO-2* 

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Legendary 1992 Bridgestone XO-2 $425 52cm frame

This Pearl White example is almost completely original. The tires are not 
original and the specifications said the bike was originally equipped with 
presta tubes. The bike currently has schraeder valved tubes so it is likely 
the rims have been drilled to accomodate the larger "car type" valves. The 
rear rack is a Specialized branded one. Overall condition is very good. 

Complete specifications and geometry can be found at the pdf file at the 
link below. XO-2 description on page 38 Geometry information is on page 47, 
Component specifications on page 49 

http://sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1992/1992.pdf

If you're even looking at this ad, you likely know a little bit about the 
Bridgestone bikes of the early 90s and Grant Petersen. Grant Petersen 
currently runs Rivendell Bicycles and is well-known for promoting sensible 
(but not cheap) bicycles. The PDF file at the link is a 1992 Bridgestone 
catalog which has all sorts of interesting information on bicycle sizing, 
components, and materials. 

We're asking real money for this bicycle and while we may entertain offers, 
we may not accept much below the listed price. The listed price is pretty 
much mid-range from what we've uncovered via the wonders of the internet. 
If you're seriously interested, contact us by email and set up a time to 
check out the bike with your own eyes. After you've inspected the bike you 
can always make an offer but, if it's not realistic, don't hold your breath 
expecting it to be accepted. 

If the advertisement on Craigslist is up, then the bike is available. 
Thanks for looking! 


On Tuesday, July 18, 2017 at 11:00:13 AM UTC-4, RJ March wrote:

> Atlantis looks amazing. It was a 5 month wait though and I am a cycle 
> commuter in a 1 car family needing to replace my stolen bike asap. I had my 
> GP-designed '92 Bridgestone RB-T stolen. That was a GREAT bike. I doubt I 
> could find another bike with that classic geometry (no slanted tt), tubing 
> so elegantly slender, and a ride so nimble with canti brakes and touring 
> abilities. I road that thing in London traffic when I was living there and 
> it did equally well weaving in and out of cars as it did on rough country 
> paths in Hamstead Heath. I am now looking for something that will do well 
> with all the hills in our new home - Seattle. Here's a photo of the 
> Bridgestone if you are curious or somehow come across it:
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 9:47:49 PM UTC-4, Will wrote:
>>
>> Or... look for a 53cm Atlantis. :-) It's the beast. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 4:12:20 PM UTC-5, RJ March wrote:
>>>
>>> This is my first post and I have been driven to it by a (mild) 
>>> desperation. Here's the story: I was looking to buy a Riv bike and settled 
>>> on the Joe Appaloosa. I went on the Riv website and was able to purchase a 
>>> 51cm Hi Ho Silver Joe Appaloosa. Amazing! I thought. A week later, I got a 
>>> call and sincere apology from Vince at Riv that this was a glitch in the 
>>> system and they have no more 51cm Appaloosas, at all. Not so amazing, I 
>>> thought. 
>>>
>>> I am now appealing to any of you all - any chance anyone out there wants 
>>> to part ways with their 51cm Appaloosa? 
>>>
>>> Alternatively, since my PBH is 

[RBW] Re: WTB: Appaloosa 51cm and question about the 46cm size

[REC]

Call all the dealers.  There's a new dealer in NH or Maine.  Perhaps they 
have one?  Look at Riv's web site for dealer listing.

Riv is in business to sell bikes and make people happy.  I think they'd 
have a lot more happy people with another run of Appaloosa's.  Boy, did 
they sell out fast!  

Roberta

On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 5:12:20 PM UTC-4, RJ March wrote:

> This is my first post and I have been driven to it by a (mild) 
> desperation. Here's the story: I was looking to buy a Riv bike and settled 
> on the Joe Appaloosa. I went on the Riv website and was able to purchase a 
> 51cm Hi Ho Silver Joe Appaloosa. Amazing! I thought. A week later, I got a 
> call and sincere apology from Vince at Riv that this was a glitch in the 
> system and they have no more 51cm Appaloosas, at all. Not so amazing, I 
> thought. 
>
> I am now appealing to any of you all - any chance anyone out there wants 
> to part ways with their 51cm Appaloosa? 
>
> Alternatively, since my PBH is 79, Riv offered me a 46cm Appaloosa. I 
> think it would end up feeling like a pretty small bike. I would love to get 
> in on the ride experience of the Appaloosa but not at the expense of fit. I 
> have no Riv shops in my area. Has anyone been in a similar situation 
> between the 46 and 51 Appaloosa? 
>
> I am thinking I will stick with a 51cm size and go with a Sam Hillborne, 
> even though I am not a big fan of the caliper brake set up and would be 
> somewhat limited on touring - though I read on here that the Sam can haul, 
> too. 
>  
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Columbine! It must be July.

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Patrick,

Thank you for posting about your adventures, especially when you stop to 
take pictures so the rest of us can enjoy.

Roberta

On Monday, July 3, 2017 at 3:46:14 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:

> In which I discover, like a tourist stepping off the bus in some unknown 
> time, that it must be July because the columbine are blooming.
> http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/columbine/
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> www.CredoFamily.org
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: the sunflower ride...

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Eunice,

I loved watching the video, especially the field of sunflowers.  Thanks for 
sharing.

Roberta

On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 4:08:49 PM UTC-4, Eunice Chang wrote:

> Heya. 
>
> Been a while since I checked in this list...popped in to share a video of 
> my recent ride on Neuse River Trail to the sunflower field in Raleigh, NC. 
> They're grown out of wastewater and used for biodiesel. Thumper (my AHH) 
> makes an appearance, and Serenity (QB) is there as well, though you can't 
> see it- the ride is filmed from QB. :) If you like nature documentaries, 
> you'll enjoy this. 
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rztruswZnrc
>
> (No sound, but just as well as Thumper made some very loud gear shifting 
> sounds). 
>
> -E.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: My Purple Glorious was Stolen

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> This is such good news.  I'm so happy that they didn't stash it somewhere 
>> else, knowing that you were onto them.  I would love to hear the full 
>> story.  
>>
>
I had a bike stolen 25 years ago and that was very upsetting.  Not because 
it was an expensive and beautiful bike like yours, but because someone had 
the nerve to just take what I had worked so hard to earn.  

Will you be keeping it in your house from now on?Even if you keep it 
locked to an immovable object in your basement, they will be protected from 
onlookers, should they bring a grinder to remove the lock and retake the 
bike.

I read on the iBob forum something about a blue tooth tracking device for 
bikes.  Don't know anything else about it, but might be worth looking into.

Roberta


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[RBW] Re: Long Time Coming....

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It's so great that you got this bike just PERFECT for YOU.  Many happy 
years of riding!  Beautiful background, too.

roberta

On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 1:41:52 AM UTC-4, Kiley DeMond wrote:

> I have no idea where to actually begin this post... I rode a Betty Foy 
> around 2010, when I still lived in the Bay Area, but ended up buying a 
> Dutch tank of a bike. That was the third? Fourth? Fifth foray into finding 
> a bike that would recapture the joy I felt riding bikes a decade or more 
> back.
>
> Then, an orange Clementine caught my eye, and the orange Cheviot caught my 
> fancy. And last summer when I was back in CA for my nephew's graduation, I 
> borrowed a friend's car and drove back out to Walnut Creek and rode both of 
> the Orange bikes that had my eye and potentially, my heart. The Clem was 
> fun, but not as smooth as the Cheviot, and my love of lugs and the belief 
> that this was perhaps my last bike, made the Cheviot my choice. 
>
> Still, I didn't order the Cheviot until February of 2016. Well, by 'order' 
> I mean put a meager deposit down on the last of the orange 60cm frames. At 
> least it was sort of mine. And it gave me something to dream about. 
>
> Will, Roman and I decided on the components and it arrived in July. The 
> only thing different from standard was the extra long crank, a bow to my 
> 91.5 PBH. However, having not ridden the component set I picked for more 
> than five minutes, I immediately started to think of what I wanted to 
> change. I always thought Build-a-Bike would be a great idea! Get the frame 
> and then through trial and error, discussion and assessment, arrive at the 
> perfect component sets with your LBS. Over the next months, I, and I mean 
> I, as I did all the work myself, swapped out the handlebars (Albatross for 
> Bosco), brake levers (loved the Paul components levers, shifters (IRD 
> replaced the Sun Race). I already had the Nitto set back seat post. There 
> were intervening iterations of many of the components. Racks... Tires 
> Fenders 
>
> So, with further ado, and with a tip of my cap to Will who fielded many 
> emails from a newbie builder, I give you Heidi. God, I love riding this 
> bike. 
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: My Purple Glorious was Stolen

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Chalida,

So sorry!  It is a beautiful  bike.  

I'll keep my eye out on CL in the mid-Atlantic region for you.

Roberta

On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 10:14:29 AM UTC-4, Chalida wrote:

>
> 
> Early yesterday morning (June 25) my dear purple Glorious was stolen from 
> our basement in San Francisco's Mission District.  This beautiful bike has 
> cream highlighting, hearts in the lugs.  When stolen had a knitted pink and 
> purple cozy across the top frame tube.  Take a moment and be grateful for 
> your bikes or memories!  Let us know if it's spotted, thanks.
> Chalida
>

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[RBW] Re: New bike--Joe Appaloosa

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Max,

Yes!  I was thinking of using an inexpensive black nylon handlebar bag that 
I had, but hanging it like saddle bag.  I like your idea better because 
it's cleaner/neater looking.  AND, it color coordinates!  :)  Thanks for 
the idea. 

What is A2--Arizona, Albuquerque, Alaska?

Roberta

On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 8:36:43 AM UTC-4, Max S wrote:

>  I will be adding a small bag to the saddle that will tuck behind the 
>> rack's tombstone for flat repair items.   That way, it will not interfere 
>> with my rack trunk, if I needed additional space.
>
>
> Kinda like this?.. :-) 
>  
> Great looking bike! 
>
> - Max in A2
>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Appaloosa Video Review

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Nice Video!

Roberta

On Monday, June 26, 2017 at 9:30:01 AM UTC-4, Michael Morrissey wrote:

> Hi!  Here's a little overview of my Appaloosa I recently made:
>
> https://youtu.be/DtElrNIi9KM
>
> Enjoy!
>
> M
>

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[RBW] Re: Breaking in a leather Brooks

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"they're probably going to get enough water with sweat.  "

Is sweat something to be concerned with an untreated saddle?  Currently, my 
saddle is untreated.



Broccoli Cog--not that I'm an expert, as I've had my brooks (B-17)  for 2 
months--150 miles.  I was a little sore after my first ride, fine since 
then.  Still, every time I get on I think "this is so hard, how can it be 
comfortable?"  Yet, it is.

Roberta

On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 7:04:22 PM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:

> Right now I have a spare Swallow Select that I bought on $99 closeout.  I 
> use proofhide on that to keep the leather from drying out in storage.  
> On my bike's, I use Obenauff's, but I use it sparingly.  Nothing time 
> based, just as it seems to need it.  
> I keep them polished with chamois.  
> Running Swallows on two drop-bar bikes, and B17 Select on two more upright 
> bikes.  
> I also use Randi Jo's saddle covers to cover them for transport, and for 
> weather emergencies.  
> Protect them from rain - they're probably going to get enough water with 
> sweat.  
>

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[RBW] Morning ride with a new clem owner

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Looks a like a great ride--hands or no hands. 

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[RBW] Re: Giving up on my Cambium C17

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Hi, Broccoli Cog.

I got my first Brooks--a B17 two months ago on a Joe A.   Prior to that, I 
rode inexpensive saddles that I purchased at the LBS, but those rides were 
usually short, less than 10 miles.  

My first ride on B17 was OK, but my sits bones and back hurt a little, like 
the first spring ride after the winter is finally over.  Don't know if it 
was the saddle or the upright position.  Never had an issue after that.  
Only about 125-150 miles on it so far and no other issues.  I cannot say 
"it's the most comfortable saddle ever" but I can say that I can ride it 30 
miles without any issues and not really noticing it's there.  I guess that 
makes it the most comfortable saddle in that there is no discomfort at all.

I did try a cambium, the C19 I think, on a test ride of another bike and 
did not like it.  However, I was only on it for 10 minutes, so not sure 
that was a fair test ride.  One day, I'd like to try a flyer on my Joe.

I ride in regular clothes, no padded shorts. 

Roberta

On Wednesday, June 14, 2017 at 11:15:50 AM UTC-4, Broccoli Cog wrote:

> I agree Jay. I think that hump at the top of the C17 is problematic for 
> me. The comments are making me think more about trying a B17

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[RBW] Re: New Riv Model - Newsletter

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" not being able to get an orange Sam or a green/silver Appaloosa for at 
least 648 days "

I read this as those colors might not be available for those models, not 
that the models are going away.  The Appaloosa was such a swift seller (and 
loved by many, including me), I cannot imaging not bringing in more "soon."

On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 2:58:49 PM UTC-4, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:

> I'm kind of surprised that no one has mentioned the comment in the May 30 
> newsletter about not being able to get an orange Sam or a green/silver 
> Appaloosa for at least 648 days BUT that something in the middle might be 
> replacing them next year.  Having a bike between a Sam and a Joe seems to 
> be splitting a finer line but I'm stoked to see what they come with (or 
> maybe come up with).  I recently bought a silver 51 Joe and it has really 
> calmed down my bike buying desires because it is just so good.  I have a 
> Sam, Joe, Cheviot, San Marcos , Rosco Mountain Mixte on order and a 
> Quickbeam so I don't need another.  But I'm endlessly interested in what 
> they come up with.
>

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Re: [RBW] Bike computer

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Thanks, Bill and Patrick.  That's what I thought...  I wanted to make sure 
I didn't miss anything.

Bill, I also thought of needing an app called I-breadcrumbs, more for 
getting back out of a hiking trail--you know how they can branch off. 

Roberta

On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 6:42:14 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Roberta
>
> I don't know if any of the apps spit out a reverse cue sheet based on 
> where you rode or give you turn by turn directions to take you home after 
> you've rambled yourself lost.  I would name the app "i-breadcrumbs".  
>
> When I stop to look at the screen to find my way, I'm using the screen as 
> a paperless map, just like I would have done with a paper map.  
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 3:29:00 PM UTC-7, REC wrote:
>>
>> Does either Strava or Cyclometer or any of the others reverse your trip 
>> with verbal or turn by turn "written" directions--perhaps I missed it?  
>> Right now, I only go exactly where I know I can backtrack, so I don't get 
>> lost.  Or, do you use Google Maps or Waze for directions?  Road directions, 
>> though, could be different than MUP directions for a return trip.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Roberta
>>
>>
>> On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 5:57:10 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> ...If I get lost and need the GPS for directions, that's a good time to 
>>> stop and pay attention to the screen anyway.  
>>>
>>> that's just me
>>>
>>> BL in EC
>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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Re: [RBW] Bike computer

[REC]

Does either Strava or Cyclometer or any of the others reverse your trip 
with verbal or turn by turn "written" directions--perhaps I missed it?  
Right now, I only go exactly where I know I can backtrack, so I don't get 
lost.  Or, do you use Google Maps or Waze for directions?  Road directions, 
though, could be different than MUP directions for a return trip.

Thanks,
Roberta


On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 5:57:10 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:

>
> ...If I get lost and need the GPS for directions, that's a good time to 
> stop and pay attention to the screen anyway.  
>
> that's just me
>
> BL in EC
>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Bike computer

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I used to have Cateye brand computer on my non-Riv bike (I'm only 2 months 
in on a Joe A.), and found it helpful--it pushed me when I was slowing 
down, for example, because I could SEE how slow I was going,  However, now 
I can "know" the same thing without the computer; I feel it.

Also, it's more fun to just ride as I feel and look around than just down 
to my computer.  I must admit, though, that I do turn on Strava at the 
beginning of the ride and check it when I think it's time to turn around to 
start home.  I have my mile markers (10 miles, 15 miles) so I really don't 
need to check it if I'm on a familiar route.  Interesting in that I'm not 
going any slower now, but a little faster  (OK, Strava does tell me that 
and I do look at the end of the ride...) 

Roberta

On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 1:55:28 PM UTC-4, Broccoli Cog wrote:

> What do you use for a bike computer if anything at all? In my past cycling 
> life I wouldn't think about leaving the house without my Garmin and a HRM. 
> These days more often than not I simply don't bother with the Garmin. I 
> must say it's pretty liberating. I've contemplated going back to a plain 
> old bike computer that is simple to use and just keeps track of time and 
> distance. Since I no longer have a desire to upload my rides online I 
> wonder if a simple computer is best or maybe I don't even need one at all? 
> Curious to know what other list members are doing.

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Century

[REC]

What a wonderful accomplishment!  When I'm thinking I don't feel like going 
on a ride (yes, sometimes I'd rather just sit back), I will be thinking of 
you.
Roberta

On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 8:07:30 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:

> In which thunderstorm updrafts give head winds coming and going but not 
> enough rain to don a jacket. Oh, and my first century since my bludgeoned 
> brain. That’s been a long time coming! Plus, victory strawberry smoothy 
> surprise from my wife upon returning home! Sweet!
> http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/quickbeam-century
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> www.CredoFamily.org
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem in the raw

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You can see it on Grant's Clem--the first Clem picture.  
https://www.rivbike.com/pages/grants-staff-bikes

On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 7:19:08 AM UTC-4, Eric Daume wrote:
>
> Those brazes ons are for an integrated lock, like this one:
>
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/accessories/products/axa-victory-frame-lock
>
> Eric
>
> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 6:52 AM, Julian Westerhout  > wrote:
>
>> And what are the braze-ons on the back of the seat stays for? 
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, IL
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 8:33:01 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>> Ah, good catch, Keith. Is this some kinda Rosco experiment with CLEM 
>>> bendy stays and decals? Hmm...
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[RBW] Re: Sharing a few photos of my Sam with Albatross bars

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Beautiful!  Happy riding.

Roberta

On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 7:49:34 PM UTC-4, Broccoli Cog wrote:

> Hey All, Wanted to share a few photos to show off my Sam with the 
> Albatross set up. So far I really like them. This was also my first ride 
> with an incredibly awesome saddle bag made by Makeshifter Canvas Works from 
> Portland, OR. 
> https://goo.gl/photos/BejKUhvrGdmBAAQo6
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[RBW] Re: New Cheviot Day

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They (the bike and the view) look beautiful.   The bike looks so "natural" 
in the setting, too

Ride well!
Roberta

On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 3:25:55 PM UTC-4, adam leibow wrote:

> Hey RBW GG!
>
> I got a new Cheviot on Friday, built and rode on Saturday (yesterday). I 
> love how the frame and the paul racer's clear the 50mm Schwalbes. Going to 
> use this as a moderate mountain shredder klunker and commuter. It 
> complements my Hunqapillar and four other non-rivendell bikes. I officially 
> have too many bikes (so what). Pictured halfway down Bernal Heights Park or 
> Bernal Hill in SF just before golden hour or whatever. 
>
> The crank situation is messed up because the non-driveside matching 
> Ritchey crankarm has a ruined taper, so I'm using a different one that has 
> a different Q-factor. Also the crank arm hits the front derailer when it's 
> in the big ring. Two problems I will solve if you have some Sugino XD2 arms 
> in 175mm to offer me. I also need a wider BB. 
>
> Build highlights include:
> Bullmoose bars with Oury Moto Grips
> Paul Racer Center Pulls
> Schwalbe big ben's in cream 700Cx50mm. 
> MKS Sneaker Pedals
>
> Thanks for looking. 
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] WTB: feeler for 51cm Sam Hillborne, 55 Cheviot, 55 or 58 Betty Foy, Roscoe Bubbe or similar bikes

[REC]

 Hello, everyone.
I'm sending out feeler for the price of a used 51cm Sam Hillborne, 55cm 
Cheviot, 55cm or 58cm Betty Foy, Rosco Bubbe Mixte, Atlantis--but I think I 
won't be able to afford one, even if used-- (or any bikes similar to ones 
on this list), with standard Rivendell builds or Rivendell-like builds.   
Albatross, 
Choco bars, or similar (no drop bars).   Needs to be able to mount a 38 
(anywhere from 35-40 is OK) wide tire.   Needs to be complete bike, but I'm 
OK if you want to sell sans saddle or pedals.My PBH is 83cm.

I’m not looking for perfect looking or fancy—I don’t need racks (but I 
wouldn’t say no to a rear rack), fenders, or anything else that would make 
the bike look “expensive.”  In fact, the more plain-Jane, the better.   90% 
of my rides are on asphalt.  The roads aren't well maintained.

Background:  This is to be a 2nd bike, one that I keep at my office for my 
hour-ish after work rides to replace my early '90s hybrid.   My bike at 
home is a new Joe Appaloosa that I ride on the weekends and I LOVE IT  I’d 
like this second bike to be a little different than the Appaloosa and less 
flashy, so I’d feel comfortable should I need to lock during a ride stop.

If anyone has a bike he/she is possibly interested in selling, could you do 
a Private Reply and let me know what you have and about how much you’re 
looking for.  I don’t need pictures and I won’t hold you to the number.  I’m 
just trying to figure out if I have the budget for a second, albeit used, 
Rivendell.   I see the CL prices, but I don't know if they are what the 
bikes actually sell for.

There have been a few wonderful members here who have offered frames to me 
at great prices and I deeply appreciate their offers, but I cannot build a 
bike, and getting a bike shop to do it will make it unaffordable to me.  

Thanks so much.

Roberta

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[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

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I'm not that knowledgeable about bikes in particular, but the hung is your 
"favorite"  and it's obvious from your follow up replies that  it brings 
you so much joy.  I wouldn't sell anything that brings that much 
happiness.  After that, you can decide if the Sam (no more monetary layout) 
or the Atlantis or another bike would be a good 2nd.  

I have one of those wall leaning bike racks, so I can store two bikes in 
the space of one in a narrow breezeway.  Both are available any time I want 
to ride AND I get an upper body workout putting a bike on the top tier.  :)

When I was selling, I'd say "buy what you love."  In this case, I say "keep 
what you love."  It will cost you less in the long run AND make you happier 
AND with some creative storage solutions, give you space.

Congratulations on the new baby.

Roberta

On Monday, May 29, 2017 at 9:55:17 PM UTC-4, drew wrote:

> Say you had a hunqapillar, a Sam and a couple vintage bikes. But mostly 
> the hunq and Sam got ridden and you felt like you lived a really nice bike 
> life. Then let's say you were trying to have a kid and you lived in a small 
> house and bike room could no longer be bike room. Let's also say that a few 
> extra dollars would be somewhat helpful.
>
> Would you-
>
> -sell all but the hunq because it is your favorite, despite the fact that 
> it's not the best for city road riding, which is likely more and more the 
> type of riding you'll be doing, and you never took it on dirt as much as 
> you dream about taking it on dirt anyway. But that's ok, maybe you should 
> embrace a more cruiserish build, and this one could be cool.
>
> -sell all and buy a 650b Atlantis which, in your head, feels somewhere 
> between Sam and hunq. You never were quite convinced about big 29er tires 
> on a 54cm hunq frame anyway, and this 650b thing looks like it's gonna 
> stickthough you've never tried it. Maybe you could get a custom color 
> and a couple extra braze ons and it would be fine to take on trails and 
> tour, and when not there, it wouldn't feel too sluggish on the road either. 
>
> -keep all until shit hits the fan and you need to unload as things come up.
>
> -realize that the one bike hypothesis is not practical and ignore all 
> problems in your life.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Shopsack cleaning

[REC]

How about starting with Deacon Patricks method "it'll dry and flake off" 
and then vacuum it with vacuum with upholstery attachment?

Roberta 

On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 12:33:10 PM UTC-4, Jim S. wrote:
>
> Hi have a tan shopsack that's dirty, even by my low, low standards. Can 
> anyone recommend a method of cleaning? Thanks in advance.
>
>
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[RBW] Re: 62cm Appaloosa

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I especially like the contrasting black posts/saddle/handlebars.  Looking 
forward to your touring picture.

On Sunday, May 21, 2017 at 10:45:54 AM UTC-4, Jay Connolly wrote:
>
> I just received my new 62cm Appaloosa. I have been on a dozen very short 
> rides to dial in the small changes I have made to the complete build (most 
> of them unnecessary, but nonetheless a satisfying response to my bike OCD 
> and my pathological need to tinker). I tried the Albatross bar for a couple 
> of days, but I am 6'5" with a long upper body, and it was just too 
> upright--and standing to climb felt cramped and narrow. The bar is now a 
> Soma Osprey, which is 710mm wide and feels perfect. I've long been a fan of 
> Avid Single Digits and had a set in the parts bin, so a put those on, as 
> well. Just  Waiting on some 700 x 44 Compass Tires, which I will run with 
> tire liners. That will be anathema to some, but I regularly ride a stretch 
> of highway, and I've had good luck with this system in the past. Planning 
> some light touring this summer in the Yukon and Alaska, and looking forward 
> to riding this bike. Today I will get out for a long ride and see how it 
> feels after two or three hours in the saddle. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Appaloosa

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I hope you enjoy may happy hours on the bike.  I got mine a month ago and 
feel the same.

William R. (Bill in Westchester NY) said "So happy am I with it, it has 
become my only bike."  There's another thread on RBW that discussed how 
many is the optimum number of bikes.  I agree with Bill--perhaps just one 
and it's the Appaloosa.

Happy biking!

Roberta

On Friday, May 19, 2017 at 8:10:03 PM UTC-4, Andrew Huston wrote:

> Thanks to John at Rivelo, I was able to snag the elusive 51 Joe.  Today I 
> have the finished product and could not be happier with how it turned out. 
> More cruiser-ish than I may have anticipated but smooth, so smooth. With 
> some historical difficulty with the sizing scheme, this seems to be 
> perfect.  Pretty stinkin' excited.  
>
> https://flic.kr/p/UUoL4q
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[RBW] Re: Hub Area Bags and Hub Area Racks

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H  I think that I watched it but couldn't find it.  someone did 
explain it to me. but I haven't done this on my own yet.

Start with a Surly Junk Strap inside your bag.   Let's say you're starting 
with the right grommet.
Thread the strap through the grommet to the outside the bag, around the 
horizontal rack rod (I'm sorry, I don't know what it's called exactly.  
It's the rod that you would "clip" a pannier to) and back into the bag. 
Thread the strap through left grommet and out the grommet, around the 
horizontal rack rod and back into the back into the bag.
Secure the strap into the buckle inside the bag.

Roberta



On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 10:19:16 AM UTC-4, Jim S. wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Somewhere, I recall seeing photos or a video of how to attach hub area 
> bags to hub area racks. Despite the magic of google, I am unable to locate 
> this. Does anyone happen to have a photo or video of how they attached 
> their hub area bags to hub area racks?
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

[REC]

That's a great idea and I hope so.  Do they want to wait until someone is 
hurt to stop this, especially when it's not an isolated instance?
Roberta

On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 8:15:41 PM UTC-4, Ray Varella wrote:

> Just out of curiosity, are there any traffic cameras or security cameras 
> that can put this guy behind the wheel?
> You won't get him for DUI but you may be able to put some pressure on the 
> police to get him for some sort of wreckless endangerment. 
>
> Ray
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[RBW] Re: Red Rosco

[REC]

I'm sorry to hear that.  Where was the bike located?  Are you on the web 
bike registration page?  I don't remember the URL, but someone here 
commented that some dealers/people will check that site.  Perhaps a 
knowledgeable someone can add the site URL.

Roberta

On Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 12:05:34 PM UTC-4, masmojo wrote:

> Mine was stolen on April 21st, if anyone sees a Red Rosco with copper 
> colored fenders let me know.
> Eli, could you contact me? I have a question about serial #s!

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Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

[REC]

If grips were already shellacked (and now needs new layer), can one apply 
varnish over it, or best to stick with shellac? 

Roberta

On Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 7:25:44 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:

> Varnish is better for cork grips - it's flexible and will never exfoliate 
> - 6-7 thin coats
>
>
> Shellac is for twine wraps - 2 coats
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: The Siren Call of Sapphire Shopsacks

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So stylish!  I love it!


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Re: [RBW] Re: The Siren Call of Sapphire Shopsacks

[REC]

I agree with John--don't iron the patch on the bag--only stitch it.

On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 1:25:31 PM UTC-4, Surlyprof wrote:
>
> I wouldn't suggest trying to iron it on.  I tried to patch a Grabsack that 
> way.  The hot iron discolored the waxed canvas.  
>
> John
>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: The Siren Call of Sapphire Shopsacks

[REC]

The blue is BEAUTIFUL  I do think you need a bike patch on the bag.

On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 5:39:14 PM UTC-4, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> ***hearts coming out of eyes*
>
> Even more beautiful than shown on the website!
>

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[RBW] Re: In Praise of Short Jaunts and Appaloosas

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Your ride sounds wonderful.  I'm doing one whenever it's not raining on the 
weekends. I'm also starting to take my "use it or loose it" vacation days 
based on the weather, just so I can go on a longish, "wherever it takes me" 
midweek ride.  I've had my Appaloosa for just two weeks and now understand 
what I've been reading about on this board for the last 6 months. 

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[RBW] Re: Sam and I

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Many happy rides on your new Sam. 

>
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[RBW] Re: ChocoMoose question

[REC]

Timothy,

I'm in CC and have them on my Appaloosa, if you'd like to see them in 
person we can meet.

Roberta

On Saturday, April 22, 2017 at 4:25:32 PM UTC-4, Timothy Hurley wrote:

> Hello all,
>Does anyone have experience with ChocoMoose bars on a Sam? I'm 
> wondering if the grip area sits level or tilts slightly downward. They seem 
> like my ideal bars, but it's a big investment without being able to test 
> them out. Any opinions or thoughts would be helpful. Thank your!
>
>
>   -T.J. in Philadelphia 
>

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[RBW] Re: The One in Which LeahFoy is Chased by Vicious Dog on TBBITW and Lives Another Day

[REC]

I loved your story and it gave much needed laughter.   Thank you!  
 However, take care of yourself so that you may write, and we may enjoy, 
more stories.   I liked Pano's suggestion of using a water bottle spray.  
I've never traveled with pepper spray.

Garrison Keillor, on an episode of A Prairie Home Companion so many years 
ago (and I know that I'm crazily paraphrasing) said,  "there are no bad 
experiences; it's all material."  I use that expression a lot during my, 
hum... daily material.

Roberta




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[RBW] Re: FS: Four Irish Straps

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Mike,
PM sent.
Roberta

On Thursday, April 20, 2017 at 7:08:32 PM UTC-4, Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Spring cleaning turned up four Irish Straps I don't remember purchasing. 
> One of them is cut shorter than the rest.
>
> $20 shipped CONUS.
>
> Pics here: https://goo.gl/photos/Ctf9j2poMQ4d3Hhk9
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: kindness

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It is refreshing to come to this forum and have intelligent and mature 
conversations, without rude comments that don't add anything to the 
discussion.  As a new member who doesn't know too much about bikes, 
everyone has been so helpful and supportive to me and others.  And, Sky has 
introduced me to singer/songwriter Jack Johnson.   I thank you all.

Roberta

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[RBW] Re: Appaloosa build - beta version

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Bob,

The silver is a lovely color (the one I lusted for...) and the bike looks 
beautiful  Do you notice a difference in riding feel between the 
Cambium C17 and the leather B17?Also, how do you like the titanium 
lock?I had read some good things about it.  

As my father would say "ride it in good health!"

Roberta

On Sunday, April 16, 2017 at 2:48:50 PM UTC-4, Bob Lovejoy wrote:

> Even though I am still figuring out some crankset/BB issues on a preferred 
> set-up, I could not stand it and built the bike up and went riding!  This 
> is very much the beta release, though the basics are certainly there.  It 
> will, I think, end up with Berthoud fenders, racks (Tubus Cosmo rear, Nitto 
> 27f up front), a B LED mounted to the front rack (all from the last of 
> the nice parts stash) and maybe even, at some point, a fancy Rivendell 
> saddle bag?! 
>
> Current build:
> Mavic A719 rims, SON front hub, Phil rear, older but very nice 8-speed 
> (12-32) cassette, Schwalbe Mondial tires (700x45 (marked 700x47))
> Nitto Bullmoose bars, Tektro City brake levers, Silver shifters mounted on 
> Paul Thumbies, Ergon GP1 cork grips
> Old school XT derailleurs
> Brooks Cambium C17 saddle - slate
> Currently XT M770 triple mountain crankset - eventually will be Sugino AT 
> triple
>
> I love it!!  These words do not come easily but I do believe this is my 
> last real bike and build.  It seems my knee is checking out before the rest 
> of me so the ongoing succession of bikes I have had will slow or end here. 
>  But here, with the Appaloosa as the last, that seems much better than it 
> could be.
>
> Impressions so far...
>
> At times it seems like a big bike, especially when getting it out the 
> door(!), as it is longer and wider than some other bikes.  But standover is 
> perfect though I am accustomed to big bikes.  This is a 58cm and I have a 
> pbh of ~89cm for reference.  I would never be able to ride 62cm though, at 
> least not with the larger tires these bikes call out for.  That said, at 
> times it seems small as well, as it is light on its feet and very 
> maneuverable even at slow speeds and great for exploring.  The Bullmoose 
> bars help with that I think but I have to say I was surprised to find the 
> bars so,  well, relaxed!  I would have thought they would feel a little 
> more aggressive down as low as they go but they are about level with the 
> saddle and feel a little higher than that.  The Appaloosa is just designed 
> to get the bars up high without craziness.  A Nitto stem with other bars 
> could probably lower things if needed, not that I need.  My other preferred 
> bars these days are MAP/Ahearne's but I am not so sure they would be much 
> different than the Bullmoose though experiments are always possible.  I am 
> only guessing but I also believe I could ride this bike with drop bars if I 
> decided (probably with a dirt drop stem), again not that I think I will. 
>  Good to have options and ways to experiment though.
>
> One thing that really worked out well, at least for the moment, is the 
> 8-speed shifting with the Paul Thumbie mounted Silver shifters.  They just 
> work perfectly, intuitively, and beg the question on how shifting could be 
> any easier.  I have always been a friction shifting guy but these take it 
> all to a new level perfect for what I wanted.  For reference I am using 
> the special base adapters for using the Silver shifters with the Thumbies.
>
> Anyway, like I said, this is only the first, get it on the road, build. 
>  Apologies for the far less than great pictures as well... more to come and 
> better I hope.  I am lucky enough to have a very special Cheviot as well, 
> so one day I will get pictures of that bike up to Flickr. 
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/21182339@N05/albums/72157682579281726
>
> Bob Lovejoy
> Galesburg, IL
>

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[RBW] Re: New bike--Joe Appaloosa

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>
> Thanks again.  My sits-bones are OK today; I'm used to that "new to the 
>> saddle after months off"  feeling, so I knew what that was.  My back is 
>> hurting, but getting better.   I do have weak core muscles that Belopsky 
>> mentioned might be an issue.  I can work on that.
>>
>
Also, yes, I am sitting a bit more upright on this bike.  I think I'll keep 
riding and by the time I get back to the dealer in 2-4 weeks, I should know 
if I need a new saddle,  or if it was just my body needing to adjust.

Roberta

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[RBW] Re: New bike--Joe Appaloosa

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>
> Yes, Patrick, it should be an "it," being an inanimate object. Can I love 
> an inanimate object?   I always admire people with exceptional language 
> skills; mine are OK, but math was always stronger for me.


Chris, yes, this was the one on their floor and it was already built up 
with the saddle and grips.  I live in downtown Philadelphia, about halfway 
between the NY and MD dealers, and I did not want to drive to NY if I had 
an option to drive to MD.  Plus, G had 12-15 built up Rivs to test, so I 
got to test all three in my size.  

The magenta tape that Tracy suggested is officially called violet, in case 
anyone wants that color.  I'm really liking the contrast between that and 
the mustard color (I think I'll start calling it butterscotch--sounds 
nicer) of the bike.  I also think that the silver and grey accessories will 
lighten the look even more.

I'll be taking it back to be adjusted and the accessorized in 2-4 weeks.  
I'll post more pictures then.

About the sits-bones and lower back--I'm used to sore sits bones in the new 
season, but I never had a sore lower back.  My sits-bones are fine today, 
but my lower back still hurts a little.  Is this normal?  This is my first 
leather saddle, B17; my others were gel and I liked them just fine.  

Thank you all!

Roberta

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[RBW] Three 55cm and No 51cm Appaloosas Left

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I asked Roman to clarify something from Grant's blog about only three 
Appaloosas left, and this was his reply:  
 

"Grant was referring to 55cm Appaloosa completes. That being said and I'm 
sorry to say, we're totally sold out of 51cm Appaloosa framesets and 
completes. Almost all of them were preordered and the remaining few went 
faster than we could imagine (even oversold).

 
The next order of Appaloosas is a ways out."

 
So, if you want a 55cm one, you'd better order soon.
 
Roberta

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