Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[stoker]

Hi All!
Over the past week, got around to assembling my wife's 50cm Platypus. 
Chased the threads, installed the HS, aligned the derailleur hanger and 
Frame Savered the innards. Built it up with the following:
Velocity Cliffhangers, 32h with Deore T610 hubset and Sapim spokes. 584x48 
Rene Herse Switchback Hill.
Brooks Cambium C17 carved all-weather saddle on Nitto S65 post.
XT BLR780 levers with Deore T610 linear pull brakes. Nitto Choco bars, 
Nitto Dynamic stem and ESI grips.
1x10 setup using 11-40 Praxis 10 speed cassette. M780 series XT derailleur 
and trigger shifters. 
Wolftooth 38t chainring on Suntour XCPro 170mm crankset. UN72 107mm BB. 
Spank Oozy 2.0 trail pedals.
Blue Lug HS spacers and Forager cable cherry (rear der).

Pics - 
https://www.flickr.com/gp/107142884@N05/5J49k5UPwz

Rack and basket eventually. Can't wait for the snow to melt so she can get 
out and ride it!

Bob Stoltz



On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 11:36:07 AM UTC-6 Masa wrote:

> Hi Roberta, thank you for welcoming me to the forum!
>
> The mirror on my bike is Busch + Muller Cycle Star.
> I like the extension too, it's flexible so it's easy to adjust the angle 
> when you climb up, going down and turn corner.
> Some people might feel that it is wobbly but I'm fine, it's useful.
>
> Thank you for your words! I hope to find how you enjoy riding your bike on 
> the forum too.
>
> Masa
>
> 2022年11月28日月曜日 20:34:35 UTC+9 Roberta:
>
>> Congratulations on your new ride. I love it and the sentiment in your 
>> post. And, welcome to the forum. 
>>
>> Can you share the mirror brand and model? I like it’s extension. 
>>
>> I wish you many, many happy hours of riding. I’m looking forward to 
>> hearing your impressions.  
>>
>> Roberta 
>>
>> On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 8:42:45 PM UTC-5 Masa wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, I live in Tokyo and have been a fan of Rivendell since luckily my 
>>> local bike shop is Blue Lug! The other day I finally got my Platypus as my 
>>> first Riv.
>>>
>>> I found that Leah mentioned about my Instagram post on the other thread 
>>> and really appreciate that.
>>>
>>> It was just my understanding what Grant (and the mechanic who built my 
>>> Platty from Blue Lug) like to tell the owners of  Riv. So it’s not my 
>>> original but just a reflection :)
>>>
>>> Masa
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Masa]

Hi Roberta, thank you for welcoming me to the forum!

The mirror on my bike is Busch + Muller Cycle Star.
I like the extension too, it's flexible so it's easy to adjust the angle 
when you climb up, going down and turn corner.
Some people might feel that it is wobbly but I'm fine, it's useful.

Thank you for your words! I hope to find how you enjoy riding your bike on 
the forum too.

Masa

2022年11月28日月曜日 20:34:35 UTC+9 Roberta:

> Congratulations on your new ride. I love it and the sentiment in your 
> post. And, welcome to the forum. 
>
> Can you share the mirror brand and model? I like it’s extension. 
>
> I wish you many, many happy hours of riding. I’m looking forward to 
> hearing your impressions.  
>
> Roberta 
>
> On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 8:42:45 PM UTC-5 Masa wrote:
>
>> Hello, I live in Tokyo and have been a fan of Rivendell since luckily my 
>> local bike shop is Blue Lug! The other day I finally got my Platypus as my 
>> first Riv.
>>
>> I found that Leah mentioned about my Instagram post on the other thread 
>> and really appreciate that.
>>
>> It was just my understanding what Grant (and the mechanic who built my 
>> Platty from Blue Lug) like to tell the owners of  Riv. So it’s not my 
>> original but just a reflection :)
>>
>> Masa
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Masa]

Thank you Leah! I like the bar tapes too. They are varnished and it turned 
out really nice colours. The mechanic advised me to put the more different 
colour on the drive train side so that it gives contrast in photos. As you 
said Blue Lug staff are geniuses, they care about every small detail. I 
like your Platypus as well, really beautiful colour!

I used to ride Surly Cross check which I still love it but I think the 
Platypus fits better than the Surly for my purpose to ride.
The platypus is really smooth and fun to ride as well as runs at very 
comfortable speed to commute in Tokyo.
There are lots of traffic signals here and you have to stop many times so 
it really doesn't matter how fast you are.
My platypus runs neither fast or slow but just comfortable and stable. It 
is flexible on unpaved roads, pushes me up with the long chain stay to 
climb up. I love the bike.

I will keep posting how I enjoy riding my Platypus!

Masa
2022年11月26日土曜日 12:47:39 UTC+9 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!:

> 
> Hi Masa, so good to “see” you on this forum! Yes, your quote and photo 
> were so memorable it simply needed to be posted here. You are so lucky that 
> Blue Lug is your local shop; they are creative geniuses. I love that 
> two-color bar tape on your bars. How do you like your new Platypus? You 
> said it’s your first Rivendell - does it live up to your expectations? 
> Thank you for posting and sharing your new bike with us. Hope to hear more 
> from you on this forum!
> Leah
>
> On Nov 25, 2022, at 8:42 PM, Masa  wrote:
>
>  
>
> Hello, I live in Tokyo and have been a fan of Rivendell since luckily my 
> local bike shop is Blue Lug! The other day I finally got my Platypus as my 
> first Riv.
>
> I found that Leah mentioned about my Instagram post on the other thread 
> and really appreciate that.
>
> It was just my understanding what Grant (and the mechanic who built my 
> Platty from Blue Lug) like to tell the owners of  Riv. So it’s not my 
> original but just a reflection :)
>
> Masa
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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Masa]

Thank you Takashi. As I replied to Leah, the bike is really comfortable and 
fun. I feel like I can ride it all day and I want to do it!

I saw your Hunqapillar on the other thread, it is a really cool bike! (also 
you live in Japan too!)

Here's the link for the Flicker photos of my Platypus taken by Blue Lug.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/blk20221121pl2

Masa
2022年11月26日土曜日 19:43:50 UTC+9 Takashi:

> Masa,
> Congrats on your new bike!
> I'm looking forward to hearing from you about how the bike feels.
>
> Takashi
>
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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Roberta]

Congratulations on your new ride. I love it and the sentiment in your post. 
And, welcome to the forum. 

Can you share the mirror brand and model? I like it’s extension. 

I wish you many, many happy hours of riding. I’m looking forward to hearing 
your impressions.  

Roberta 

On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 8:42:45 PM UTC-5 Masa wrote:

> Hello, I live in Tokyo and have been a fan of Rivendell since luckily my 
> local bike shop is Blue Lug! The other day I finally got my Platypus as my 
> first Riv.
>
> I found that Leah mentioned about my Instagram post on the other thread 
> and really appreciate that.
>
> It was just my understanding what Grant (and the mechanic who built my 
> Platty from Blue Lug) like to tell the owners of  Riv. So it’s not my 
> original but just a reflection :)
>
> Masa
>

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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Ryan Frahm]

Thank you David! I have that saddle broken in now but found it too wide for 
me. Hopefully it works for her! No way she spends over 500 miles to break 
in a saddle. Haha. 

On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 2:22:15 PM UTC-8 DavidP wrote:

> It looks great already - love the saddle! Going to narrower rims should 
> also give a few more millimeters for fenders.
>
> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 2:50:52 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> [image: 0BB42BFC-3110-49EC-B876-961CA57F3245.jpeg]
>>
>> I had the tires sitting around and donated my Rich built Cliffhanger 
>> wheels for now. I think I’ll go for something a bit narrower and lighter 
>> eventually though. I had the 85mm FacePlater so we’ll see how everything 
>> works out when she can ride it. Now I have to wait for the parts I didn’t 
>> have sitting around. I do have brakes but waiting on some Paul levers so no 
>> rush. So far so good I think!
>> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 9:43:00 AM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Perfect!! Thanks.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 26, 2022, at 10:07 AM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 26, 2022, at 8:58 AM, DavidP  wrote:
>>>
>>> Leah posted it in the "Using Your Rivendell Vs. Being Precious" thread:
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/fBVXpMqGxr8/m/eQx-N_ckBQAJ
>>>
>>> -Dave
>>>
>>> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 7:48:46 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I missed it - where can I find this quote?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 25, 2022, at 10:47 PM, Leah Peterson  
 wrote:

 

 
 Hi Masa, so good to “see” you on this forum! Yes, your quote and photo 
 were so memorable it simply needed to be posted here. You are so lucky 
 that 
 Blue Lug is your local shop; they are creative geniuses. I love that 
 two-color bar tape on your bars. How do you like your new Platypus? You 
 said it’s your first Rivendell - does it live up to your expectations? 
 Thank you for posting and sharing your new bike with us. Hope to hear more 
 from you on this forum!
 Leah

 On Nov 25, 2022, at 8:42 PM, Masa  wrote:

  

 Hello, I live in Tokyo and have been a fan of Rivendell since luckily 
 my local bike shop is Blue Lug! The other day I finally got my Platypus as 
 my first Riv.

 I found that Leah mentioned about my Instagram post on the other thread 
 and really appreciate that.

 It was just my understanding what Grant (and the mechanic who built my 
 Platty from Blue Lug) like to tell the owners of  Riv. So it’s not my 
 original but just a reflection :)

 Masa

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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[DavidP]

It looks great already - love the saddle! Going to narrower rims should 
also give a few more millimeters for fenders.

On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 2:50:52 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> [image: 0BB42BFC-3110-49EC-B876-961CA57F3245.jpeg]
>
> I had the tires sitting around and donated my Rich built Cliffhanger 
> wheels for now. I think I’ll go for something a bit narrower and lighter 
> eventually though. I had the 85mm FacePlater so we’ll see how everything 
> works out when she can ride it. Now I have to wait for the parts I didn’t 
> have sitting around. I do have brakes but waiting on some Paul levers so no 
> rush. So far so good I think!
> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 9:43:00 AM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Perfect!! Thanks.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 26, 2022, at 10:07 AM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 26, 2022, at 8:58 AM, DavidP  wrote:
>>
>> Leah posted it in the "Using Your Rivendell Vs. Being Precious" thread:
>> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/fBVXpMqGxr8/m/eQx-N_ckBQAJ
>>
>> -Dave
>>
>> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 7:48:46 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I missed it - where can I find this quote?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 25, 2022, at 10:47 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hi Masa, so good to “see” you on this forum! Yes, your quote and photo 
>>> were so memorable it simply needed to be posted here. You are so lucky that 
>>> Blue Lug is your local shop; they are creative geniuses. I love that 
>>> two-color bar tape on your bars. How do you like your new Platypus? You 
>>> said it’s your first Rivendell - does it live up to your expectations? 
>>> Thank you for posting and sharing your new bike with us. Hope to hear more 
>>> from you on this forum!
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> On Nov 25, 2022, at 8:42 PM, Masa  wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Hello, I live in Tokyo and have been a fan of Rivendell since luckily my 
>>> local bike shop is Blue Lug! The other day I finally got my Platypus as my 
>>> first Riv.
>>>
>>> I found that Leah mentioned about my Instagram post on the other thread 
>>> and really appreciate that.
>>>
>>> It was just my understanding what Grant (and the mechanic who built my 
>>> Platty from Blue Lug) like to tell the owners of  Riv. So it’s not my 
>>> original but just a reflection :)
>>>
>>> Masa
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[DavidP]

Leah posted it in the "Using Your Rivendell Vs. Being Precious" thread:
https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/fBVXpMqGxr8/m/eQx-N_ckBQAJ

-Dave

On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 7:48:46 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> I missed it - where can I find this quote?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 25, 2022, at 10:47 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
> 
>
> 
> Hi Masa, so good to “see” you on this forum! Yes, your quote and photo 
> were so memorable it simply needed to be posted here. You are so lucky that 
> Blue Lug is your local shop; they are creative geniuses. I love that 
> two-color bar tape on your bars. How do you like your new Platypus? You 
> said it’s your first Rivendell - does it live up to your expectations? 
> Thank you for posting and sharing your new bike with us. Hope to hear more 
> from you on this forum!
> Leah
>
> On Nov 25, 2022, at 8:42 PM, Masa  wrote:
>
>  
>
> Hello, I live in Tokyo and have been a fan of Rivendell since luckily my 
> local bike shop is Blue Lug! The other day I finally got my Platypus as my 
> first Riv.
>
> I found that Leah mentioned about my Instagram post on the other thread 
> and really appreciate that.
>
> It was just my understanding what Grant (and the mechanic who built my 
> Platty from Blue Lug) like to tell the owners of  Riv. So it’s not my 
> original but just a reflection :)
>
> Masa
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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Richard Rose]

I missed it - where can I find this quote?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 25, 2022, at 10:47 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Masa, so good to “see” you on this forum! Yes, your quote and photo were 
> so memorable it simply needed to be posted here. You are so lucky that Blue 
> Lug is your local shop; they are creative geniuses. I love that two-color bar 
> tape on your bars. How do you like your new Platypus? You said it’s your 
> first Rivendell - does it live up to your expectations? Thank you for posting 
> and sharing your new bike with us. Hope to hear more from you on this forum!
> Leah
> 
>>> On Nov 25, 2022, at 8:42 PM, Masa  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hello, I live in Tokyo and have been a fan of Rivendell since luckily my 
>> local bike shop is Blue Lug! The other day I finally got my Platypus as my 
>> first Riv.
>> 
>> I found that Leah mentioned about my Instagram post on the other thread and 
>> really appreciate that.
>> 
>> It was just my understanding what Grant (and the mechanic who built my 
>> Platty from Blue Lug) like to tell the owners of  Riv. So it’s not my 
>> original but just a reflection :)
>> 
>> Masa
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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Takashi]

Masa,
Congrats on your new bike!
I'm looking forward to hearing from you about how the bike feels.

Takashi

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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Leah Peterson]

Hi Masa, so good to “see” you on this forum! Yes, your quote and photo were so memorable it simply needed to be posted here. You are so lucky that Blue Lug is your local shop; they are creative geniuses. I love that two-color bar tape on your bars. How do you like your new Platypus? You said it’s your first Rivendell - does it live up to your expectations? Thank you for posting and sharing your new bike with us. Hope to hear more from you on this forum!LeahOn Nov 25, 2022, at 8:42 PM, Masa  wrote:





Hello, I live in Tokyo and have been a fan of Rivendell since luckily my local bike shop is Blue Lug! The other day I finally got my Platypus as my first Riv.
I found that Leah mentioned about my Instagram post on the other thread and really appreciate that.
It was just my understanding what Grant (and the mechanic who built my Platty from Blue Lug) like to tell the owners of  Riv. So it’s not my original but just a reflection :)Masa



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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Patrick Moore]

Both of these are very good tips. I will add: patience. Chauncey Matthews
didn't chase the brazed-on boss threads and I had a bolt break off just shy
of the surface of one of them, forget which, after I stupidly installed a
bolt dry and tried to force its removal. Panic and anguish. I was able to
get a tenuous grip on the remaining 1/8" stub with needlenose Vise Grips,
and after liberally dousing the bolt with spray lube, I spent 30 minutes
rocking it gently back and forth in minute arcs until it finally worked its
way out. That exercise did serve to chase the threads.



On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 12:12 PM 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> ... Also, chasing threads can be assisted by using a little lubrication
of some sort: anti seeze/thread lube compound, Sea Foam, WD-40, most any
lube. Even motor oil, not that I would given other options.
>
> Another nifty trick is to start chasing from the opposite side you would
typically introduce the bolt. For example on drop out eyelets start from
the inboard wheel side. That way if something binds or goes a little wrong
you could have second attempt by trying from the outboard wheel side. There
have been times when I've had threads start to bugger/bind for one reason
or another and it's a simple way to clean things back up by running a bolt
through from other side. A second shot at same task, if you will. Assuming
it's possible, for example one wouldn't be able to do this on a bottom
bracket type scenario since there isn't access from the opposite side.

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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Patrick Moore]

Now that someone mentioned it, stainless steel bolt also in my instance.

On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 9:40 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Both of these are very good tips. I will add: patience. Chauncey Matthews
> didn't chase the brazed-on boss threads and I had a bolt break off just shy
> of the surface of one of them, forget which, after I stupidly installed a
> bolt dry and tried to force its removal. Panic and anguish. I was able to
> get a tenuous grip on the remaining 1/8" stub with needlenose Vise Grips,
> and after liberally dousing the bolt with spray lube, I spent 30 minutes
> rocking it gently back and forth in minute arcs until it finally worked its
> way out. That exercise did serve to chase the threads.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 12:12 PM 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> > ... Also, chasing threads can be assisted by using a little lubrication
> of some sort: anti seeze/thread lube compound, Sea Foam, WD-40, most any
> lube. Even motor oil, not that I would given other options.
> >
> > Another nifty trick is to start chasing from the opposite side you would
> typically introduce the bolt. For example on drop out eyelets start from
> the inboard wheel side. That way if something binds or goes a little wrong
> you could have second attempt by trying from the outboard wheel side. There
> have been times when I've had threads start to bugger/bind for one reason
> or another and it's a simple way to clean things back up by running a bolt
> through from other side. A second shot at same task, if you will. Assuming
> it's possible, for example one wouldn't be able to do this on a bottom
> bracket type scenario since there isn't access from the opposite side.
>


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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Ryan Frahm]

The frame shipped out yesterday and should be here tomorrow! I guess it 
helps make up for the months I waited for my Susie! Haha. And wouldn’t you 
know it, Black Friday sale at AVT bike so she’s getting some Paul brake 
levers and a White Industries ENO crank. I couldn’t resist! Unfortunately, 
the wheels I have are black Dyad’s not silver, but that will have to wait 
until after the holidays for the wallet to recover… 

On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 7:35:23 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:

> Thank you Leah! I am happy to hear how you feel about the 700c wheels! Her 
> bike right now is a Surly Bridge Club with 700x43 tires. I built it up 
> after showing her the frame color (looks is how she picks a bike). It is 
> the first bike she has ever enjoyed riding so she trusts me to put this 
> together and knows it will be much nicer. I definitely hope she wants to 
> ride more with it! I can say that after owning quite a few very nice bikes, 
> I ride both of my Rivendell bikes more. The ride quality has been better 
> than anything I’ve ridden by far. 
>
> I wish I could say that we added another in my size, maybe next time 
> around. Only so many Riv’s a year! And for me, they’ll need to offer 
> another color. As beautiful as the Mermaid color is, it is all hers.
> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 7:18:58 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Ryan, how wonderful! Yes, you are exactly right - if she wants a 
>> Platypus, now is the time. I remember when April 2021 happened and all the 
>> Platys were gone within the span of a few minutes and SO many were 
>> disappointed. That crowd has been waiting from then until now, the end of 
>> 2022 to get a Platypus of their own. 
>>
>> Re: 700c wheels, I love mine. I have 650b on my Clem and I love the big 
>> hoops on my Platy. The Platypus is so elegant with big wheels - they remind 
>> me of a ballgown, or a woman holding up her skirts, ready to go. With 
>> swept-back bars the bike looks like it is ready to take flight. I just love 
>> everything about it, and so will she. In fact, you mentioned she doesn’t 
>> ride much. Well, what was her bike before this? The Rivendell mixtes make a 
>> person ride more. Perfect comfort, so effortless, fits like your favorite 
>> outfit…you just rack up the miles. I won’t be at all shocked, nor will I 
>> say that I warned you, when you put another one in your size in the cart!
>> Leah
>>
>> On Nov 21, 2022, at 9:51 AM, Ryan Frahm  wrote:
>>
>> I was randomly on the Rivendell site last night just checking on parts 
>> and what not. Checked and was a bit surprised to see the Platypus was still 
>> available in all sizes! I showed them to my wife again just because. “It 
>> want one, that is my perfect bike!” I laughed a bit and said we should go 
>> ahead and get one since you never know when they’ll be gone or come back! 
>> She doesn’t ride very much and so I was a bit shocked to find out that she 
>> was serious!
>>
>>
>> So, a quick PBH double check later we had a 55 in the cart. I kinda hoped 
>> she’d be on 650b wheels this time but the size is the size. And I just so 
>> happen to have some “extra” 700c wheels to use at first. Very excited to 
>> get it and build it up! It will be a nice fi my to my Clem and Susie in the 
>> soon to be all Rivendell garage!
>>
>> On a side note with the seatpost binder bolt, my Susie was very difficult 
>> to loosen when I got it. I finally worked it loose though and put anti 
>> seize on there, no problems since. They should not be assembling anything 
>> dry at the factory. The cranks were almost seized from assembly as well. I 
>> had a heck of a time breaking the chainring bolts loose on a new set (with 
>> proper tools). I learned from a previous set that I had to drill out to 
>> always disassemble and reassemble with some anti seize.
>>
>> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 3:19:19 PM UTC-8 Scott wrote:
>>
>>> Laing, I've heard the term "galling" before, but I always thought it 
>>> meant threads were somehow corroded, filled with debris, or buggered from 
>>> cross threading.
>>>
>>> I've also heard the term used to describe my personality...hehe...but 
>>> that's a thread for elsewhere.
>>>
>>> It's Friday afternoon. Can you tell? Yee-haw!!!
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 03:33:52 PM MST, lconley <
>>> lco...@brph.com> wrote: 
>>>
>>>
>>> The problem could be that the nut and bolt are both stainless steel. 
>>> Stainless on stainless can "gall", basically cold welding themselves to 
>>> each other. Lubricant / anti-seize on the threads can help prevent this.
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 5:12:58 PM UTC-5 Mark C wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Oddly enough, I had the same experience with my Rosco Platypus. The 
>>> seatpost bolt was very tight to turn, but worked sort of okay for almost a 
>>> week through a few adjustments due to trying different saddles. Then as I 
>>> was turning onto my street after a ride, the seatpost slammed 

Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Ryan Frahm]

Thank you Leah! I am happy to hear how you feel about the 700c wheels! Her 
bike right now is a Surly Bridge Club with 700x43 tires. I built it up 
after showing her the frame color (looks is how she picks a bike). It is 
the first bike she has ever enjoyed riding so she trusts me to put this 
together and knows it will be much nicer. I definitely hope she wants to 
ride more with it! I can say that after owning quite a few very nice bikes, 
I ride both of my Rivendell bikes more. The ride quality has been better 
than anything I’ve ridden by far. 

I wish I could say that we added another in my size, maybe next time 
around. Only so many Riv’s a year! And for me, they’ll need to offer 
another color. As beautiful as the Mermaid color is, it is all hers.
On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 7:18:58 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Ryan, how wonderful! Yes, you are exactly right - if she wants a Platypus, 
> now is the time. I remember when April 2021 happened and all the Platys 
> were gone within the span of a few minutes and SO many were disappointed. 
> That crowd has been waiting from then until now, the end of 2022 to get a 
> Platypus of their own. 
>
> Re: 700c wheels, I love mine. I have 650b on my Clem and I love the big 
> hoops on my Platy. The Platypus is so elegant with big wheels - they remind 
> me of a ballgown, or a woman holding up her skirts, ready to go. With 
> swept-back bars the bike looks like it is ready to take flight. I just love 
> everything about it, and so will she. In fact, you mentioned she doesn’t 
> ride much. Well, what was her bike before this? The Rivendell mixtes make a 
> person ride more. Perfect comfort, so effortless, fits like your favorite 
> outfit…you just rack up the miles. I won’t be at all shocked, nor will I 
> say that I warned you, when you put another one in your size in the cart!
> Leah
>
> On Nov 21, 2022, at 9:51 AM, Ryan Frahm  wrote:
>
> I was randomly on the Rivendell site last night just checking on parts 
> and what not. Checked and was a bit surprised to see the Platypus was still 
> available in all sizes! I showed them to my wife again just because. “It 
> want one, that is my perfect bike!” I laughed a bit and said we should go 
> ahead and get one since you never know when they’ll be gone or come back! 
> She doesn’t ride very much and so I was a bit shocked to find out that she 
> was serious!
>
>
> So, a quick PBH double check later we had a 55 in the cart. I kinda hoped 
> she’d be on 650b wheels this time but the size is the size. And I just so 
> happen to have some “extra” 700c wheels to use at first. Very excited to 
> get it and build it up! It will be a nice fi my to my Clem and Susie in the 
> soon to be all Rivendell garage!
>
> On a side note with the seatpost binder bolt, my Susie was very difficult 
> to loosen when I got it. I finally worked it loose though and put anti 
> seize on there, no problems since. They should not be assembling anything 
> dry at the factory. The cranks were almost seized from assembly as well. I 
> had a heck of a time breaking the chainring bolts loose on a new set (with 
> proper tools). I learned from a previous set that I had to drill out to 
> always disassemble and reassemble with some anti seize.
>
> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 3:19:19 PM UTC-8 Scott wrote:
>
>> Laing, I've heard the term "galling" before, but I always thought it 
>> meant threads were somehow corroded, filled with debris, or buggered from 
>> cross threading.
>>
>> I've also heard the term used to describe my personality...hehe...but 
>> that's a thread for elsewhere.
>>
>> It's Friday afternoon. Can you tell? Yee-haw!!!
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 03:33:52 PM MST, lconley  
>> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> The problem could be that the nut and bolt are both stainless steel. 
>> Stainless on stainless can "gall", basically cold welding themselves to 
>> each other. Lubricant / anti-seize on the threads can help prevent this.
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 5:12:58 PM UTC-5 Mark C wrote:
>>
>>
>> Oddly enough, I had the same experience with my Rosco Platypus. The 
>> seatpost bolt was very tight to turn, but worked sort of okay for almost a 
>> week through a few adjustments due to trying different saddles. Then as I 
>> was turning onto my street after a ride, the seatpost slammed down. The 
>> bolt still seemed to be tight, but I finally marked it and could see that 
>> it wasn't turning in the nut even though the bolt turned with difficulty. 
>> Then, as I was suspecting and sort of hoping, the bolt broke. I never found 
>> the nut so don't know what was up there, but it sure seemed like the 
>> threads slipped enough to jam. I don't know how else the post would 
>> suddenly slip and the bolt still feel very tight. It was such a freak thing 
>> I didn't mention it, but now I hear of another case.
>> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 8:31:11 AM UTC-5 DavidP wrote:
>>
>> An update on my 

Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Leah Peterson]

Ryan, how wonderful! Yes, you are exactly right - if she wants a Platypus, now is the time. I remember when April 2021 happened and all the Platys were gone within the span of a few minutes and SO many were disappointed. That crowd has been waiting from then until now, the end of 2022 to get a Platypus of their own. Re: 700c wheels, I love mine. I have 650b on my Clem and I love the big hoops on my Platy. The Platypus is so elegant with big wheels - they remind me of a ballgown, or a woman holding up her skirts, ready to go. With swept-back bars the bike looks like it is ready to take flight. I just love everything about it, and so will she. In fact, you mentioned she doesn’t ride much. Well, what was her bike before this? The Rivendell mixtes make a person ride more. Perfect comfort, so effortless, fits like your favorite outfit…you just rack up the miles. I won’t be at all shocked, nor will I say that I warned you, when you put another one in your size in the cart!LeahOn Nov 21, 2022, at 9:51 AM, Ryan Frahm  wrote:I was randomly on the Rivendell site last night just checking on parts and what not. Checked and was a bit surprised to see the Platypus was still available in all sizes! I showed them to my wife again just because. “It want one, that is my perfect bike!” I laughed a bit and said we should go ahead and get one since you never know when they’ll be gone or come back! She doesn’t ride very much and so I was a bit shocked to find out that she was serious!So, a quick PBH double check later we had a 55 in the cart. I kinda hoped she’d be on 650b wheels this time but the size is the size. And I just so happen to have some “extra” 700c wheels to use at first. Very excited to get it and build it up! It will be a nice fi my to my Clem and Susie in the soon to be all Rivendell garage!On a side note with the seatpost binder bolt, my Susie was very difficult to loosen when I got it. I finally worked it loose though and put anti seize on there, no problems since. They should not be assembling anything dry at the factory. The cranks were almost seized from assembly as well. I had a heck of a time breaking the chainring bolts loose on a new set (with proper tools). I learned from a previous set that I had to drill out to always disassemble and reassemble with some anti seize.On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 3:19:19 PM UTC-8 Scott wrote:
Laing, I've heard the term "galling" before, but I always thought it meant threads were somehow corroded, filled with debris, or buggered from cross threading.I've also heard the term used to describe my personality...hehe...but that's a thread for elsewhere.It's Friday afternoon. Can you tell? Yee-haw!!!Scott





On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 03:33:52 PM MST, lconley  wrote:



The problem could be that the nut and bolt are both stainless steel. Stainless on stainless can "gall", basically cold welding themselves to each other. Lubricant / anti-seize on the threads can help prevent this.LaingOn Friday, November 18, 2022 at 5:12:58 PM UTC-5 Mark C wrote:Oddly enough, I had the same experience with my Rosco Platypus. The seatpost bolt was very tight to turn, but worked sort of okay for almost a week through a few adjustments due to trying different saddles. Then as I was turning onto my street after a ride, the seatpost slammed down. The bolt still seemed to be tight, but I finally marked it and could see that it wasn't turning in the nut even though the bolt turned with difficulty. Then, as I was suspecting and sort of hoping, the bolt broke. I never found the nut so don't know what was up there, but it sure seemed like the threads slipped enough to jam. I don't know how else the post would suddenly slip and the bolt still feel very tight. It was such a freak thing I didn't mention it, but now I hear of another case.On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 8:31:11 AM UTC-5 DavidP wrote:An update on my build experience so far - the derailleur hanger on my frame was fine, no adjustment to alignment needed. No chasing needed on the hanger threads either. The bottom bracket threads were also fine and the cups threaded in smoothly. The most time consuming part so far has been chasing the threads on the fork crown braze-ons - it took a while to get them cleaned out and accept a screw smoothly. I've never acquired chasing taps so I've always just used a steel screw, working it in and out until the threads are clear. I've seen thread clearing tools made using a sacrificial screw with a slot cut along the length of the threads to allow material to clear while threading it, which probably would've made it go faster.Out of the box, I noticed the seat collar binder bolt was oddly resistant to turn in either direction; it took an unusual amount of force to get it to tighten and the post still had play. Then while trying to loosen 

Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Ryan Frahm]

I was randomly on the Rivendell site last night just checking on parts and 
what not. Checked and was a bit surprised to see the Platypus was still 
available in all sizes! I showed them to my wife again just because. “It 
want one, that is my perfect bike!” I laughed a bit and said we should go 
ahead and get one since you never know when they’ll be gone or come back! 
She doesn’t ride very much and so I was a bit shocked to find out that she 
was serious!

So, a quick PBH double check later we had a 55 in the cart. I kinda hoped 
she’d be on 650b wheels this time but the size is the size. And I just so 
happen to have some “extra” 700c wheels to use at first. Very excited to 
get it and build it up! It will be a nice fi my to my Clem and Susie in the 
soon to be all Rivendell garage!

On a side note with the seatpost binder bolt, my Susie was very difficult 
to loosen when I got it. I finally worked it loose though and put anti 
seize on there, no problems since. They should not be assembling anything 
dry at the factory. The cranks were almost seized from assembly as well. I 
had a heck of a time breaking the chainring bolts loose on a new set (with 
proper tools). I learned from a previous set that I had to drill out to 
always disassemble and reassemble with some anti seize.

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 3:19:19 PM UTC-8 Scott wrote:

> Laing, I've heard the term "galling" before, but I always thought it meant 
> threads were somehow corroded, filled with debris, or buggered from cross 
> threading.
>
> I've also heard the term used to describe my personality...hehe...but 
> that's a thread for elsewhere.
>
> It's Friday afternoon. Can you tell? Yee-haw!!!
>
> Scott
>
> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 03:33:52 PM MST, lconley  
> wrote: 
>
>
> The problem could be that the nut and bolt are both stainless steel. 
> Stainless on stainless can "gall", basically cold welding themselves to 
> each other. Lubricant / anti-seize on the threads can help prevent this.
>
> Laing
>
> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 5:12:58 PM UTC-5 Mark C wrote:
>
>
> Oddly enough, I had the same experience with my Rosco Platypus. The 
> seatpost bolt was very tight to turn, but worked sort of okay for almost a 
> week through a few adjustments due to trying different saddles. Then as I 
> was turning onto my street after a ride, the seatpost slammed down. The 
> bolt still seemed to be tight, but I finally marked it and could see that 
> it wasn't turning in the nut even though the bolt turned with difficulty. 
> Then, as I was suspecting and sort of hoping, the bolt broke. I never found 
> the nut so don't know what was up there, but it sure seemed like the 
> threads slipped enough to jam. I don't know how else the post would 
> suddenly slip and the bolt still feel very tight. It was such a freak thing 
> I didn't mention it, but now I hear of another case.
> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 8:31:11 AM UTC-5 DavidP wrote:
>
> An update on my build experience so far - the derailleur hanger on my 
> frame was fine, no adjustment to alignment needed. No chasing needed on the 
> hanger threads either. The bottom bracket threads were also fine and the 
> cups threaded in smoothly. The most time consuming part so far has been 
> chasing the threads on the fork crown braze-ons - it took a while to get 
> them cleaned out and accept a screw smoothly. I've never acquired chasing 
> taps so I've always just used a steel screw, working it in and out until 
> the threads are clear. I've seen thread clearing tools made using a 
> sacrificial screw with a slot cut along the length of the threads to allow 
> material to clear while threading it, which probably would've made it go 
> faster.
>
> Out of the box, I noticed the seat collar binder bolt was oddly resistant 
> to turn in either direction; it took an unusual amount of force to get it 
> to tighten and the post still had play. Then while trying to loosen the 
> bolt it snapped in the middle of the shaft. After taking the two halves of 
> the bolt out, I found the nylock nut was bound to the end of the bolt and I 
> was unable to turn it loose using vice grips and a socket wrench. I 
> replaced the bolt with a new stainless M6 x 20mm and a standard, 
> non-locking, M6 nut (with some blue loctite on the bolt). Now everything 
> tightens up (and loosens again) as expected.
>
> -Dave
>
> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 4:20:47 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>
> I got some Shimano levers for my internal gear bikes from Peter White that 
> have two position cable attachments for normal or linear brakes. The right 
> side lever has an integrated thumb shifter for the 8 speed Shimano hub. I 
> don't know if a non-integrated right lever exists.
>
> The Paul Cross-Lever can also be used with either style of brake by 
> repositioning the pivot pin.
>
> Laing
>
> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 2:45:05 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:
>
> Thanks, Scott.  That helps a lot.
> I’m going for Tektro 

Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

['Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch]

 Laing, I've heard the term "galling" before, but I always thought it meant 
threads were somehow corroded, filled with debris, or buggered from cross 
threading.
I've also heard the term used to describe my personality...hehe...but that's a 
thread for elsewhere.
It's Friday afternoon. Can you tell? Yee-haw!!!
Scott

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 03:33:52 PM MST, lconley  
wrote:  
 
 The problem could be that the nut and bolt are both stainless steel. Stainless 
on stainless can "gall", basically cold welding themselves to each other. 
Lubricant / anti-seize on the threads can help prevent this.
Laing

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 5:12:58 PM UTC-5 Mark C wrote:


Oddly enough, I had the same experience with my Rosco Platypus. The seatpost 
bolt was very tight to turn, but worked sort of okay for almost a week through 
a few adjustments due to trying different saddles. Then as I was turning onto 
my street after a ride, the seatpost slammed down. The bolt still seemed to be 
tight, but I finally marked it and could see that it wasn't turning in the nut 
even though the bolt turned with difficulty. Then, as I was suspecting and sort 
of hoping, the bolt broke. I never found the nut so don't know what was up 
there, but it sure seemed like the threads slipped enough to jam. I don't know 
how else the post would suddenly slip and the bolt still feel very tight. It 
was such a freak thing I didn't mention it, but now I hear of another case.
On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 8:31:11 AM UTC-5 DavidP wrote:

An update on my build experience so far - the derailleur hanger on my frame was 
fine, no adjustment to alignment needed. No chasing needed on the hanger 
threads either. The bottom bracket threads were also fine and the cups threaded 
in smoothly. The most time consuming part so far has been chasing the threads 
on the fork crown braze-ons - it took a while to get them cleaned out and 
accept a screw smoothly. I've never acquired chasing taps so I've always just 
used a steel screw, working it in and out until the threads are clear. I've 
seen thread clearing tools made using a sacrificial screw with a slot cut along 
the length of the threads to allow material to clear while threading it, which 
probably would've made it go faster.
Out of the box, I noticed the seat collar binder bolt was oddly resistant to 
turn in either direction; it took an unusual amount of force to get it to 
tighten and the post still had play. Then while trying to loosen the bolt it 
snapped in the middle of the shaft. After taking the two halves of the bolt 
out, I found the nylock nut was bound to the end of the bolt and I was unable 
to turn it loose using vice grips and a socket wrench. I replaced the bolt with 
a new stainless M6 x 20mm and a standard, non-locking, M6 nut (with some blue 
loctite on the bolt). Now everything tightens up (and loosens again) as 
expected.
-Dave

On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 4:20:47 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

I got some Shimano levers for my internal gear bikes from Peter White that have 
two position cable attachments for normal or linear brakes. The right side 
lever has an integrated thumb shifter for the 8 speed Shimano hub. I don't know 
if a non-integrated right lever exists.
The Paul Cross-Lever can also be used with either style of brake by 
repositioning the pivot pin.

Laing

On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 2:45:05 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:

Thanks, Scott.  That helps a lot.
I’m going for Tektro linear pull V-brakes, but no decision on levers yet.
I like the adjustable pull on those levers, though.  I hadn’t run into that 
before.

I’m not trying to hijack this thread, but “Who is getting a Platypus”? implies 
“and how are you going to build it up?”







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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

['Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch]

 I always have a tube of anti-sieze laying around. I love the stuff not just 
for anti-seize properties but also for thread lubrication to get things to seat 
nicely, especially if I've got the torque wrench in play.
Pepto is multi purpose...how about that?! Didn't know that either!
Thanks again, Laing
Scott

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 04:03:08 PM MST, lconley  
wrote:  
 
 I have busted multiple stainless steel nuts and bolts. The old chrome ones 
from Cinelli and Campagnolo, etc. never froze and broke, nor did the galvanized 
ones on lesser bikes. Then I 'upgraded' to Stainless Steel, and started having 
problems.
Google this: Pepto Bismol works as anti-seize if you don't have anything else 
around.
Laing

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 5:44:36 PM UTC-5 Scott wrote:

 You get the "Knowledge" badge, Laing. Thanks for sharing. I didn't even know 
such a phenomenon existed.
I'll add that to my experience tool box.
Much appreciated!
Scott

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 03:33:52 PM MST, lconley  
wrote:  
 
 The problem could be that the nut and bolt are both stainless steel. Stainless 
on stainless can "gall", basically cold welding themselves to each other. 
Lubricant / anti-seize on the threads can help prevent this.
Laing

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 5:12:58 PM UTC-5 Mark C wrote:


Oddly enough, I had the same experience with my Rosco Platypus. The seatpost 
bolt was very tight to turn, but worked sort of okay for almost a week through 
a few adjustments due to trying different saddles. Then as I was turning onto 
my street after a ride, the seatpost slammed down. The bolt still seemed to be 
tight, but I finally marked it and could see that it wasn't turning in the nut 
even though the bolt turned with difficulty. Then, as I was suspecting and sort 
of hoping, the bolt broke. I never found the nut so don't know what was up 
there, but it sure seemed like the threads slipped enough to jam. I don't know 
how else the post would suddenly slip and the bolt still feel very tight. It 
was such a freak thing I didn't mention it, but now I hear of another case.
On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 8:31:11 AM UTC-5 DavidP wrote:

An update on my build experience so far - the derailleur hanger on my frame was 
fine, no adjustment to alignment needed. No chasing needed on the hanger 
threads either. The bottom bracket threads were also fine and the cups threaded 
in smoothly. The most time consuming part so far has been chasing the threads 
on the fork crown braze-ons - it took a while to get them cleaned out and 
accept a screw smoothly. I've never acquired chasing taps so I've always just 
used a steel screw, working it in and out until the threads are clear. I've 
seen thread clearing tools made using a sacrificial screw with a slot cut along 
the length of the threads to allow material to clear while threading it, which 
probably would've made it go faster.
Out of the box, I noticed the seat collar binder bolt was oddly resistant to 
turn in either direction; it took an unusual amount of force to get it to 
tighten and the post still had play. Then while trying to loosen the bolt it 
snapped in the middle of the shaft. After taking the two halves of the bolt 
out, I found the nylock nut was bound to the end of the bolt and I was unable 
to turn it loose using vice grips and a socket wrench. I replaced the bolt with 
a new stainless M6 x 20mm and a standard, non-locking, M6 nut (with some blue 
loctite on the bolt). Now everything tightens up (and loosens again) as 
expected.
-Dave

On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 4:20:47 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

I got some Shimano levers for my internal gear bikes from Peter White that have 
two position cable attachments for normal or linear brakes. The right side 
lever has an integrated thumb shifter for the 8 speed Shimano hub. I don't know 
if a non-integrated right lever exists.
The Paul Cross-Lever can also be used with either style of brake by 
repositioning the pivot pin.

Laing

On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 2:45:05 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:

Thanks, Scott.  That helps a lot.
I’m going for Tektro linear pull V-brakes, but no decision on levers yet.
I like the adjustable pull on those levers, though.  I hadn’t run into that 
before.

I’m not trying to hijack this thread, but “Who is getting a Platypus”? implies 
“and how are you going to build it up?”







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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[lconley]

I have busted multiple stainless steel nuts and bolts. The old chrome ones 
from Cinelli and Campagnolo, etc. never froze and broke, nor did the 
galvanized ones on lesser bikes. Then I 'upgraded' to Stainless Steel, and 
started having problems.

Google this: Pepto Bismol works as anti-seize if you don't have anything 
else around.

Laing

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 5:44:36 PM UTC-5 Scott wrote:

> You get the "Knowledge" badge, Laing. Thanks for sharing. I didn't even 
> know such a phenomenon existed.
>
> I'll add that to my experience tool box.
>
> Much appreciated!
>
> Scott
>
> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 03:33:52 PM MST, lconley  
> wrote: 
>
>
> The problem could be that the nut and bolt are both stainless steel. 
> Stainless on stainless can "gall", basically cold welding themselves to 
> each other. Lubricant / anti-seize on the threads can help prevent this.
>
> Laing
>
> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 5:12:58 PM UTC-5 Mark C wrote:
>
>
> Oddly enough, I had the same experience with my Rosco Platypus. The 
> seatpost bolt was very tight to turn, but worked sort of okay for almost a 
> week through a few adjustments due to trying different saddles. Then as I 
> was turning onto my street after a ride, the seatpost slammed down. The 
> bolt still seemed to be tight, but I finally marked it and could see that 
> it wasn't turning in the nut even though the bolt turned with difficulty. 
> Then, as I was suspecting and sort of hoping, the bolt broke. I never found 
> the nut so don't know what was up there, but it sure seemed like the 
> threads slipped enough to jam. I don't know how else the post would 
> suddenly slip and the bolt still feel very tight. It was such a freak thing 
> I didn't mention it, but now I hear of another case.
> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 8:31:11 AM UTC-5 DavidP wrote:
>
> An update on my build experience so far - the derailleur hanger on my 
> frame was fine, no adjustment to alignment needed. No chasing needed on the 
> hanger threads either. The bottom bracket threads were also fine and the 
> cups threaded in smoothly. The most time consuming part so far has been 
> chasing the threads on the fork crown braze-ons - it took a while to get 
> them cleaned out and accept a screw smoothly. I've never acquired chasing 
> taps so I've always just used a steel screw, working it in and out until 
> the threads are clear. I've seen thread clearing tools made using a 
> sacrificial screw with a slot cut along the length of the threads to allow 
> material to clear while threading it, which probably would've made it go 
> faster.
>
> Out of the box, I noticed the seat collar binder bolt was oddly resistant 
> to turn in either direction; it took an unusual amount of force to get it 
> to tighten and the post still had play. Then while trying to loosen the 
> bolt it snapped in the middle of the shaft. After taking the two halves of 
> the bolt out, I found the nylock nut was bound to the end of the bolt and I 
> was unable to turn it loose using vice grips and a socket wrench. I 
> replaced the bolt with a new stainless M6 x 20mm and a standard, 
> non-locking, M6 nut (with some blue loctite on the bolt). Now everything 
> tightens up (and loosens again) as expected.
>
> -Dave
>
> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 4:20:47 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>
> I got some Shimano levers for my internal gear bikes from Peter White that 
> have two position cable attachments for normal or linear brakes. The right 
> side lever has an integrated thumb shifter for the 8 speed Shimano hub. I 
> don't know if a non-integrated right lever exists.
>
> The Paul Cross-Lever can also be used with either style of brake by 
> repositioning the pivot pin.
>
> Laing
>
> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 2:45:05 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:
>
> Thanks, Scott.  That helps a lot.
> I’m going for Tektro linear pull V-brakes, but no decision on levers yet.
> I like the adjustable pull on those levers, though.  I hadn’t run into 
> that before.
>
> I’m not trying to hijack this thread, but “Who is getting a Platypus”? 
> implies “and how are you going to build it up?”
>
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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

['Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch]

 Ima take mine apart and add some anti seeze. Hope it's not galled like the 
others experienced. Simple fix though...
Scott

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 03:33:52 PM MST, lconley  
wrote:  
 
 The problem could be that the nut and bolt are both stainless steel. Stainless 
on stainless can "gall", basically cold welding themselves to each other. 
Lubricant / anti-seize on the threads can help prevent this.
Laing

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 5:12:58 PM UTC-5 Mark C wrote:


Oddly enough, I had the same experience with my Rosco Platypus. The seatpost 
bolt was very tight to turn, but worked sort of okay for almost a week through 
a few adjustments due to trying different saddles. Then as I was turning onto 
my street after a ride, the seatpost slammed down. The bolt still seemed to be 
tight, but I finally marked it and could see that it wasn't turning in the nut 
even though the bolt turned with difficulty. Then, as I was suspecting and sort 
of hoping, the bolt broke. I never found the nut so don't know what was up 
there, but it sure seemed like the threads slipped enough to jam. I don't know 
how else the post would suddenly slip and the bolt still feel very tight. It 
was such a freak thing I didn't mention it, but now I hear of another case.
On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 8:31:11 AM UTC-5 DavidP wrote:

An update on my build experience so far - the derailleur hanger on my frame was 
fine, no adjustment to alignment needed. No chasing needed on the hanger 
threads either. The bottom bracket threads were also fine and the cups threaded 
in smoothly. The most time consuming part so far has been chasing the threads 
on the fork crown braze-ons - it took a while to get them cleaned out and 
accept a screw smoothly. I've never acquired chasing taps so I've always just 
used a steel screw, working it in and out until the threads are clear. I've 
seen thread clearing tools made using a sacrificial screw with a slot cut along 
the length of the threads to allow material to clear while threading it, which 
probably would've made it go faster.
Out of the box, I noticed the seat collar binder bolt was oddly resistant to 
turn in either direction; it took an unusual amount of force to get it to 
tighten and the post still had play. Then while trying to loosen the bolt it 
snapped in the middle of the shaft. After taking the two halves of the bolt 
out, I found the nylock nut was bound to the end of the bolt and I was unable 
to turn it loose using vice grips and a socket wrench. I replaced the bolt with 
a new stainless M6 x 20mm and a standard, non-locking, M6 nut (with some blue 
loctite on the bolt). Now everything tightens up (and loosens again) as 
expected.
-Dave

On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 4:20:47 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

I got some Shimano levers for my internal gear bikes from Peter White that have 
two position cable attachments for normal or linear brakes. The right side 
lever has an integrated thumb shifter for the 8 speed Shimano hub. I don't know 
if a non-integrated right lever exists.
The Paul Cross-Lever can also be used with either style of brake by 
repositioning the pivot pin.

Laing

On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 2:45:05 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:

Thanks, Scott.  That helps a lot.
I’m going for Tektro linear pull V-brakes, but no decision on levers yet.
I like the adjustable pull on those levers, though.  I hadn’t run into that 
before.

I’m not trying to hijack this thread, but “Who is getting a Platypus”? implies 
“and how are you going to build it up?”







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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

['Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch]

 You get the "Knowledge" badge, Laing. Thanks for sharing. I didn't even know 
such a phenomenon existed.
I'll add that to my experience tool box.
Much appreciated!
Scott

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 03:33:52 PM MST, lconley  
wrote:  
 
 The problem could be that the nut and bolt are both stainless steel. Stainless 
on stainless can "gall", basically cold welding themselves to each other. 
Lubricant / anti-seize on the threads can help prevent this.
Laing

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 5:12:58 PM UTC-5 Mark C wrote:


Oddly enough, I had the same experience with my Rosco Platypus. The seatpost 
bolt was very tight to turn, but worked sort of okay for almost a week through 
a few adjustments due to trying different saddles. Then as I was turning onto 
my street after a ride, the seatpost slammed down. The bolt still seemed to be 
tight, but I finally marked it and could see that it wasn't turning in the nut 
even though the bolt turned with difficulty. Then, as I was suspecting and sort 
of hoping, the bolt broke. I never found the nut so don't know what was up 
there, but it sure seemed like the threads slipped enough to jam. I don't know 
how else the post would suddenly slip and the bolt still feel very tight. It 
was such a freak thing I didn't mention it, but now I hear of another case.
On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 8:31:11 AM UTC-5 DavidP wrote:

An update on my build experience so far - the derailleur hanger on my frame was 
fine, no adjustment to alignment needed. No chasing needed on the hanger 
threads either. The bottom bracket threads were also fine and the cups threaded 
in smoothly. The most time consuming part so far has been chasing the threads 
on the fork crown braze-ons - it took a while to get them cleaned out and 
accept a screw smoothly. I've never acquired chasing taps so I've always just 
used a steel screw, working it in and out until the threads are clear. I've 
seen thread clearing tools made using a sacrificial screw with a slot cut along 
the length of the threads to allow material to clear while threading it, which 
probably would've made it go faster.
Out of the box, I noticed the seat collar binder bolt was oddly resistant to 
turn in either direction; it took an unusual amount of force to get it to 
tighten and the post still had play. Then while trying to loosen the bolt it 
snapped in the middle of the shaft. After taking the two halves of the bolt 
out, I found the nylock nut was bound to the end of the bolt and I was unable 
to turn it loose using vice grips and a socket wrench. I replaced the bolt with 
a new stainless M6 x 20mm and a standard, non-locking, M6 nut (with some blue 
loctite on the bolt). Now everything tightens up (and loosens again) as 
expected.
-Dave

On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 4:20:47 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

I got some Shimano levers for my internal gear bikes from Peter White that have 
two position cable attachments for normal or linear brakes. The right side 
lever has an integrated thumb shifter for the 8 speed Shimano hub. I don't know 
if a non-integrated right lever exists.
The Paul Cross-Lever can also be used with either style of brake by 
repositioning the pivot pin.

Laing

On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 2:45:05 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:

Thanks, Scott.  That helps a lot.
I’m going for Tektro linear pull V-brakes, but no decision on levers yet.
I like the adjustable pull on those levers, though.  I hadn’t run into that 
before.

I’m not trying to hijack this thread, but “Who is getting a Platypus”? implies 
“and how are you going to build it up?”







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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[lconley]

The problem could be that the nut and bolt are both stainless steel. 
Stainless on stainless can "gall", basically cold welding themselves to 
each other. Lubricant / anti-seize on the threads can help prevent this.

Laing

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 5:12:58 PM UTC-5 Mark C wrote:

>
> Oddly enough, I had the same experience with my Rosco Platypus. The 
> seatpost bolt was very tight to turn, but worked sort of okay for almost a 
> week through a few adjustments due to trying different saddles. Then as I 
> was turning onto my street after a ride, the seatpost slammed down. The 
> bolt still seemed to be tight, but I finally marked it and could see that 
> it wasn't turning in the nut even though the bolt turned with difficulty. 
> Then, as I was suspecting and sort of hoping, the bolt broke. I never found 
> the nut so don't know what was up there, but it sure seemed like the 
> threads slipped enough to jam. I don't know how else the post would 
> suddenly slip and the bolt still feel very tight. It was such a freak thing 
> I didn't mention it, but now I hear of another case.
> On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 8:31:11 AM UTC-5 DavidP wrote:
>
>> An update on my build experience so far - the derailleur hanger on my 
>> frame was fine, no adjustment to alignment needed. No chasing needed on the 
>> hanger threads either. The bottom bracket threads were also fine and the 
>> cups threaded in smoothly. The most time consuming part so far has been 
>> chasing the threads on the fork crown braze-ons - it took a while to get 
>> them cleaned out and accept a screw smoothly. I've never acquired chasing 
>> taps so I've always just used a steel screw, working it in and out until 
>> the threads are clear. I've seen thread clearing tools made using a 
>> sacrificial screw with a slot cut along the length of the threads to allow 
>> material to clear while threading it, which probably would've made it go 
>> faster.
>>
>> Out of the box, I noticed the seat collar binder bolt was oddly resistant 
>> to turn in either direction; it took an unusual amount of force to get it 
>> to tighten and the post still had play. Then while trying to loosen the 
>> bolt it snapped in the middle of the shaft. After taking the two halves of 
>> the bolt out, I found the nylock nut was bound to the end of the bolt and I 
>> was unable to turn it loose using vice grips and a socket wrench. I 
>> replaced the bolt with a new stainless M6 x 20mm and a standard, 
>> non-locking, M6 nut (with some blue loctite on the bolt). Now everything 
>> tightens up (and loosens again) as expected.
>>
>> -Dave
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 4:20:47 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> I got some Shimano levers for my internal gear bikes from Peter White 
>>> that have two position cable attachments for normal or linear brakes. The 
>>> right side lever has an integrated thumb shifter for the 8 speed Shimano 
>>> hub. I don't know if a non-integrated right lever exists.
>>>
>>> The Paul Cross-Lever can also be used with either style of brake by 
>>> repositioning the pivot pin.
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 2:45:05 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:
>>>
 Thanks, Scott.  That helps a lot.
 I’m going for Tektro linear pull V-brakes, but no decision on levers 
 yet.
 I like the adjustable pull on those levers, though.  I hadn’t run into 
 that before.

 I’m not trying to hijack this thread, but “Who is getting a Platypus”? 
 implies “and how are you going to build it up?”



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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

['Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch]

 Good idea marking the bolt end. That's clever!

I bet the bolt was shearing when it turned with difficulty despite no change on 
the end.
I'm always very vigilant and pay critical attention to ensuring threads are 
engaging before giving it the onion. At times it can be hard to tell given a 
certain scenario when it's hard to get a good tactile feel.
If I were to install a new bolt and nut, I'd make sure I use tip of my index 
finger to ensure nut is seat completely and flush with mounting surface. One 
should be able to feel through a hex wrench the bolt threads passively engaging 
nut a few rotations before some resistance when the bolt encounters the nylon 
segment. Sometimes it's helpful to, while lightly applying pressure  to one 
another (bolt and nut), to rotated the bolt counter clockwise until one feels a 
very light click. At that point the threads would be very close to engaging and 
then I would return to a very light clockwise rotation and use the tactile 
thing to ensure threads are engaging passively.
Blabber, blabber

Again, just my friendly input...
Scott 

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 03:13:03 PM MST, Mark C 
 wrote:  
 
 
Oddly enough, I had the same experience with my Rosco Platypus. The seatpost 
bolt was very tight to turn, but worked sort of okay for almost a week through 
a few adjustments due to trying different saddles. Then as I was turning onto 
my street after a ride, the seatpost slammed down. The bolt still seemed to be 
tight, but I finally marked it and could see that it wasn't turning in the nut 
even though the bolt turned with difficulty. Then, as I was suspecting and sort 
of hoping, the bolt broke. I never found the nut so don't know what was up 
there, but it sure seemed like the threads slipped enough to jam. I don't know 
how else the post would suddenly slip and the bolt still feel very tight. It 
was such a freak thing I didn't mention it, but now I hear of another case.
On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 8:31:11 AM UTC-5 DavidP wrote:

An update on my build experience so far - the derailleur hanger on my frame was 
fine, no adjustment to alignment needed. No chasing needed on the hanger 
threads either. The bottom bracket threads were also fine and the cups threaded 
in smoothly. The most time consuming part so far has been chasing the threads 
on the fork crown braze-ons - it took a while to get them cleaned out and 
accept a screw smoothly. I've never acquired chasing taps so I've always just 
used a steel screw, working it in and out until the threads are clear. I've 
seen thread clearing tools made using a sacrificial screw with a slot cut along 
the length of the threads to allow material to clear while threading it, which 
probably would've made it go faster.
Out of the box, I noticed the seat collar binder bolt was oddly resistant to 
turn in either direction; it took an unusual amount of force to get it to 
tighten and the post still had play. Then while trying to loosen the bolt it 
snapped in the middle of the shaft. After taking the two halves of the bolt 
out, I found the nylock nut was bound to the end of the bolt and I was unable 
to turn it loose using vice grips and a socket wrench. I replaced the bolt with 
a new stainless M6 x 20mm and a standard, non-locking, M6 nut (with some blue 
loctite on the bolt). Now everything tightens up (and loosens again) as 
expected.
-Dave

On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 4:20:47 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

I got some Shimano levers for my internal gear bikes from Peter White that have 
two position cable attachments for normal or linear brakes. The right side 
lever has an integrated thumb shifter for the 8 speed Shimano hub. I don't know 
if a non-integrated right lever exists.
The Paul Cross-Lever can also be used with either style of brake by 
repositioning the pivot pin.

Laing

On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 2:45:05 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:

Thanks, Scott.  That helps a lot.
I’m going for Tektro linear pull V-brakes, but no decision on levers yet.
I like the adjustable pull on those levers, though.  I hadn’t run into that 
before.

I’m not trying to hijack this thread, but “Who is getting a Platypus”? implies 
“and how are you going to build it up?”






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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Mark C]

Oddly enough, I had the same experience with my Rosco Platypus. The 
seatpost bolt was very tight to turn, but worked sort of okay for almost a 
week through a few adjustments due to trying different saddles. Then as I 
was turning onto my street after a ride, the seatpost slammed down. The 
bolt still seemed to be tight, but I finally marked it and could see that 
it wasn't turning in the nut even though the bolt turned with difficulty. 
Then, as I was suspecting and sort of hoping, the bolt broke. I never found 
the nut so don't know what was up there, but it sure seemed like the 
threads slipped enough to jam. I don't know how else the post would 
suddenly slip and the bolt still feel very tight. It was such a freak thing 
I didn't mention it, but now I hear of another case.
On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 8:31:11 AM UTC-5 DavidP wrote:

> An update on my build experience so far - the derailleur hanger on my 
> frame was fine, no adjustment to alignment needed. No chasing needed on the 
> hanger threads either. The bottom bracket threads were also fine and the 
> cups threaded in smoothly. The most time consuming part so far has been 
> chasing the threads on the fork crown braze-ons - it took a while to get 
> them cleaned out and accept a screw smoothly. I've never acquired chasing 
> taps so I've always just used a steel screw, working it in and out until 
> the threads are clear. I've seen thread clearing tools made using a 
> sacrificial screw with a slot cut along the length of the threads to allow 
> material to clear while threading it, which probably would've made it go 
> faster.
>
> Out of the box, I noticed the seat collar binder bolt was oddly resistant 
> to turn in either direction; it took an unusual amount of force to get it 
> to tighten and the post still had play. Then while trying to loosen the 
> bolt it snapped in the middle of the shaft. After taking the two halves of 
> the bolt out, I found the nylock nut was bound to the end of the bolt and I 
> was unable to turn it loose using vice grips and a socket wrench. I 
> replaced the bolt with a new stainless M6 x 20mm and a standard, 
> non-locking, M6 nut (with some blue loctite on the bolt). Now everything 
> tightens up (and loosens again) as expected.
>
> -Dave
>
> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 4:20:47 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>
>> I got some Shimano levers for my internal gear bikes from Peter White 
>> that have two position cable attachments for normal or linear brakes. The 
>> right side lever has an integrated thumb shifter for the 8 speed Shimano 
>> hub. I don't know if a non-integrated right lever exists.
>>
>> The Paul Cross-Lever can also be used with either style of brake by 
>> repositioning the pivot pin.
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 2:45:05 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Scott.  That helps a lot.
>>> I’m going for Tektro linear pull V-brakes, but no decision on levers yet.
>>> I like the adjustable pull on those levers, though.  I hadn’t run into 
>>> that before.
>>>
>>> I’m not trying to hijack this thread, but “Who is getting a Platypus”? 
>>> implies “and how are you going to build it up?”
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

['Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch]

 Dave:
The nylock nut bonding to the bolt sounds like an unlikely phenomenon to me. I 
just got an Atlantis F/F with same binder bolt set-up and mine turned normally. 
I wonder if yours was cross threaded because the nut got set cock-eyed in its 
binder seat when married to bolt. I can't see how nylon would bond to a bolt 
shaft as to not be removable as you tried. Blue locktite on a standard not is 
an option, but I wouldn't be opposed to trying a nylock nut again.
Also, chasing threads can be assisted by using a little lubrication of some 
sort: anti seeze/thread lube compound, Sea Foam, WD-40, most any lube. Even 
motor oil, not that I would given other options.
Another nifty trick is to start chasing from the opposite side you would 
typically introduce the bolt. For example on drop out eyelets start from the 
inboard wheel side. That way if something binds or goes a little wrong you 
could have second attempt by trying from the outboard wheel side. There have 
been times when I've had threads start to bugger/bind for one reason or another 
and it's a simple way to clean things back up by running a bolt through from 
other side. A second shot at same task, if you will. Assuming it's possible, 
for example one wouldn't be able to do this on a bottom bracket type scenario 
since there isn't access from the opposite side.
I'm probably sharing what you already know all well. Just sharing my 
experiences that have helped me out of a pickle. Tips from friends are always 
welcome. Even If I already know them...

Scott

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 06:31:17 AM MST, DavidP 
 wrote:  
 
 An update on my build experience so far - the derailleur hanger on my frame 
was fine, no adjustment to alignment needed. No chasing needed on the hanger 
threads either. The bottom bracket threads were also fine and the cups threaded 
in smoothly. The most time consuming part so far has been chasing the threads 
on the fork crown braze-ons - it took a while to get them cleaned out and 
accept a screw smoothly. I've never acquired chasing taps so I've always just 
used a steel screw, working it in and out until the threads are clear. I've 
seen thread clearing tools made using a sacrificial screw with a slot cut along 
the length of the threads to allow material to clear while threading it, which 
probably would've made it go faster.
Out of the box, I noticed the seat collar binder bolt was oddly resistant to 
turn in either direction; it took an unusual amount of force to get it to 
tighten and the post still had play. Then while trying to loosen the bolt it 
snapped in the middle of the shaft. After taking the two halves of the bolt 
out, I found the nylock nut was bound to the end of the bolt and I was unable 
to turn it loose using vice grips and a socket wrench. I replaced the bolt with 
a new stainless M6 x 20mm and a standard, non-locking, M6 nut (with some blue 
loctite on the bolt). Now everything tightens up (and loosens again) as 
expected.
-Dave

On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 4:20:47 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

I got some Shimano levers for my internal gear bikes from Peter White that have 
two position cable attachments for normal or linear brakes. The right side 
lever has an integrated thumb shifter for the 8 speed Shimano hub. I don't know 
if a non-integrated right lever exists.
The Paul Cross-Lever can also be used with either style of brake by 
repositioning the pivot pin.

Laing

On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 2:45:05 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:

Thanks, Scott.  That helps a lot.
I’m going for Tektro linear pull V-brakes, but no decision on levers yet.
I like the adjustable pull on those levers, though.  I hadn’t run into that 
before.

I’m not trying to hijack this thread, but “Who is getting a Platypus”? implies 
“and how are you going to build it up?”





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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[DavidP]

An update on my build experience so far - the derailleur hanger on my frame 
was fine, no adjustment to alignment needed. No chasing needed on the 
hanger threads either. The bottom bracket threads were also fine and the 
cups threaded in smoothly. The most time consuming part so far has been 
chasing the threads on the fork crown braze-ons - it took a while to get 
them cleaned out and accept a screw smoothly. I've never acquired chasing 
taps so I've always just used a steel screw, working it in and out until 
the threads are clear. I've seen thread clearing tools made using a 
sacrificial screw with a slot cut along the length of the threads to allow 
material to clear while threading it, which probably would've made it go 
faster.

Out of the box, I noticed the seat collar binder bolt was oddly resistant 
to turn in either direction; it took an unusual amount of force to get it 
to tighten and the post still had play. Then while trying to loosen the 
bolt it snapped in the middle of the shaft. After taking the two halves of 
the bolt out, I found the nylock nut was bound to the end of the bolt and I 
was unable to turn it loose using vice grips and a socket wrench. I 
replaced the bolt with a new stainless M6 x 20mm and a standard, 
non-locking, M6 nut (with some blue loctite on the bolt). Now everything 
tightens up (and loosens again) as expected.

-Dave

On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 4:20:47 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

> I got some Shimano levers for my internal gear bikes from Peter White that 
> have two position cable attachments for normal or linear brakes. The right 
> side lever has an integrated thumb shifter for the 8 speed Shimano hub. I 
> don't know if a non-integrated right lever exists.
>
> The Paul Cross-Lever can also be used with either style of brake by 
> repositioning the pivot pin.
>
> Laing
>
> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 2:45:05 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Scott.  That helps a lot.
>> I’m going for Tektro linear pull V-brakes, but no decision on levers yet.
>> I like the adjustable pull on those levers, though.  I hadn’t run into 
>> that before.
>>
>> I’m not trying to hijack this thread, but “Who is getting a Platypus”? 
>> implies “and how are you going to build it up?”
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[lconley]

I got some Shimano levers for my internal gear bikes from Peter White that 
have two position cable attachments for normal or linear brakes. The right 
side lever has an integrated thumb shifter for the 8 speed Shimano hub. I 
don't know if a non-integrated right lever exists.

The Paul Cross-Lever can also be used with either style of brake by 
repositioning the pivot pin.

Laing

On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 2:45:05 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:

> Thanks, Scott.  That helps a lot.
> I’m going for Tektro linear pull V-brakes, but no decision on levers yet.
> I like the adjustable pull on those levers, though.  I hadn’t run into 
> that before.
>
> I’m not trying to hijack this thread, but “Who is getting a Platypus”? 
> implies “and how are you going to build it up?”
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Alan Barnard]

Thanks! 

On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 12:12:49 PM UTC-8 aeroperf wrote:

> OK, I’ll start a new thread.  Alan - great photos.
>
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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Alan Barnard]

Have fun, David! Looking forward to seeing yours take shape. 

On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 2:39:16 PM UTC-8 DavidP wrote:

> Alan - I've been following your build and it's fantastic.
>
> Looks like I can get started on mine:
>
> [image: IMG_20221115_172729362_2.jpg]
>
> -Dave
>
> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 3:24:32 PM UTC-5 alancrai...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I picked up my 60cm Platypus frame from Riv headquarters last Wednesday 
>> (James said I was the first to pick up).
>>
>> The box was sealed from Taiwan. Upon unpacking, the headset cups were 
>> installed, the fork was not, the loose headset parts were in a plastic bag. 
>> Installing the fork was not difficult, though I did look up a spec sheet 
>> for the headset to be sure I placed the seals in the correct orientation.
>>
>> Both the derailleur hanger and the bottom bracket shell needed chasing. 
>> The drive side of the BB was fine, but there was some brazing material that 
>> needed cleaning on the non-drive side. Not a big deal. 
>>
>> The headbadge was slightly loose, I wrapped a couple of rubber bands 
>> around the badge and head tube overnight which solved the problem.
>>
>> My wheels won’t arrive for another few weeks, I’ll check the derailleur 
>> alignment then. 
>>
>> These are all pretty normal little things you’d expect to encounter on a 
>> frame delivered directly from the factory. Overall I’m extremely pleased 
>> and the frame is drop dead gorgeous. I’m sort of documenting the build 
>> process on Instagram if anyone is interested: @ecovelo.us
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 5:50:29 PM UTC-7 John Hawrylak wrote:
>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> AFAIK RBW had stated in the newsletter that they do not want to open the 
>>> box just to check it sicne they need to ship it in another box.  One can 
>>> see their logic, especially since they are handling many more frames than 5 
>>> years ago, and can't/don't have the time to check them or feel the level of 
>>> service they provided in the past is just unattainable now,
>>>
>>> John Hawrylak
>>> Woodstown NJ
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 11:14:06 AM UTC-4 Scott wrote:
>>>
 Joe:

 I talked to Riv earlier this week about purchasing an Atlantis and 
 posed a few questions about F/F prep. I'm not here to make a blanket 
 statement about how all F/F are handled before they depart Riv, but I was 
 told they receive the Atlantis F/F with headset already installed and that 
 a F/F I purchase would not have the hanger checked/aligned before sent to 
 me. My "guess" is they may not even unpack the F/F when they receive it. 
 There wouldn't be any reason for them to open it up, if nothing is to be 
 done on F/F. Maybe they are so busy it's easier to just place a new 
 shipping label on the box and out it goes. I live in rural Montana and am 
 a 
 little bummed I have to travel a good distance just to ensure hanger is 
 properly aligned after spending $1750 on a new baby. And I would doubt the 
 threads are chased.

 Nothing whatsoever against Riv, just an observation. Seems it should be 
 part of the frame making process to quickly verify proper hanger position 
 somewhere between frame build completion and paint. I'm going to travel 
 and 
 pay to have it done, anyways.

 On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 08:21:39 PM MDT, Joe Bernard <
 joer...@gmail.com> wrote: 


 Are these frames being sold as unprepped? I'm not clear on where they 
 are with that now but it would certainly slow down my "buy" finger if I 
 knew I still had to install the fork, adjust the headset, chase the 
 threads 
 and check the derailer hanger adjustment. 

 Joe "I don't know how to do the last two parts" Bernard 

 On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 6:52:23 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:

 I imagine quite a few have sold but Riv not being able to offer many 
 complete builds may be reducing sales. Hopefully they can get caught up on 
 the backlog of builds in the queue. And, the Rosco version of the Platypus 
 was just released recently so that fulfilled some people's wish for a 
 mixte 
 type road bike.
 Doug

 On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:13:17 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 It would seem that demand is mirroring that of the housing market.  
 Decidedly cooler than 12 months ago when Platys and house listing were 
 sold 
 out in mere hours. 

 On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 2:34:14 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

 I think they will sell pretty quick but not as lightning fast as they 
 did during the pandemic.
 On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:

 There is still one Rosco Plat in 60cm of each color available, so maybe 
 supply and demand are balancing out. At least for the taller folks. 

 Eric

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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[aeroperf]

OK, I’ll start a new thread.  Alan - great photos.

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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Alan Barnard]

I’ve been slowly building up my 60cm Platypus over the past few weeks as 
parts trickle in and I wait for delivery of the custom wheels. I’ve been 
posting some photos and comments on the build on my IG if anyone is 
interested. https://www.instagram.com/ecovelo.us/

On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 11:52:05 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:

> Hijack away! I’m interested! I hope you get it all figured out and show us 
> the photos!
>
> On Nov 16, 2022, at 2:45 PM, aeroperf  wrote:
>
> Thanks, Scott.  That helps a lot.
>
>
> I’m going for Tektro linear pull V-brakes, but no decision on levers yet.
> I like the adjustable pull on those levers, though.  I hadn’t run into 
> that before.
>
> I’m not trying to hijack this thread, but “Who is getting a Platypus”? 
> implies “and how are you going to build it up?”
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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Leah Peterson]

Hijack away! I’m interested! I hope you get it all figured out and show us the photos!On Nov 16, 2022, at 2:45 PM, aeroperf  wrote:Thanks, Scott.  That helps a lot.I’m going for Tektro linear pull V-brakes, but no decision on levers yet.I like the adjustable pull on those levers, though.  I hadn’t run into that before.I’m not trying to hijack this thread, but “Who is getting a Platypus”? implies “and how are you going to build it up?”



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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[aeroperf]

Thanks, Scott.  That helps a lot.
I’m going for Tektro linear pull V-brakes, but no decision on levers yet.
I like the adjustable pull on those levers, though.  I hadn’t run into that 
before.

I’m not trying to hijack this thread, but “Who is getting a Platypus”? 
implies “and how are you going to build it up?”

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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[aeroperf]

Thanks, shoji.
My mind is still stuck in the side pull era of early Sams and Homers, so I 
need to get educated, and that helps.

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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Shoji Takahashi]

To Aeroperf:
Brake levers depend on the brakes you want to install: cantilever or 
V-brakes use different levers (short vs long pull). The nicest levers I 
have are from Paul Components, but they're . Shimano brake levers for 
short or long pull are nice in my hand (probably better "value").

Front basket depends on how much load she'll likely put in it. For heavier 
loads (e.g., books, groceries), then look for a rack with supports that go 
to the front dropout like the Riv Basket Rack. If it's only for light 
weights (e.g., extra clothing layer), then Marks' rack+basket works fine. 

I think the Mark's rack still has the lightmount on front, and the Riv 
basket rack has mounts on the picture. With a SON generator, any of the BM 
front lights would be great. I like BM lights as the lens projects light on 
the ground with a cut-off so as not to blind path users. I have the IQ-X, 
which used to be a better value-- w/inflation, I'd probably pay ~$30 extra 
for the Edelux II. (Probably want the upside down Edelux if you're going 
with the basket rack, but YMMV.)

Good luck!
shoji
Arlington MA


On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 5:50:06 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:

> My wife’s Platypus frame arrived this morning. Woo hoo!
> It was packed in fitted cardboard, with paper stock protecting the finish, 
> and arrived in perfect “not prepped” condition.  Kudos!  Headset and 
> seatpost were included in a box (with a Riv bandana!).
>
> I have not a clue about proper brakes or brake levers.  Something silver, 
> for Albatross bars.  Any suggestions?
>
> She wants a front basket, and I have not a clue what would be appropriate 
> (I ride a Sam with a rear rack).  And what front light works best, with 
> said basket?
>
> TL;DR
> I had already collected the bars, Nitto NTC110DX stem, DeoreXT FD-781 
> front derailleur, DeoreXT RD-M772 rear derailleur, Sugino XD2 triple front 
> drive, and bar end shifters.  I’m in the process of building up Velocity 
> Dyad wheels with a SON front generator hub and a DeoreLX rear hub.
>
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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[aeroperf]

My wife’s Platypus frame arrived this morning. Woo hoo!
It was packed in fitted cardboard, with paper stock protecting the finish, 
and arrived in perfect “not prepped” condition.  Kudos!  Headset and 
seatpost were included in a box (with a Riv bandana!).

I have not a clue about proper brakes or brake levers.  Something silver, 
for Albatross bars.  Any suggestions?

She wants a front basket, and I have not a clue what would be appropriate 
(I ride a Sam with a rear rack).  And what front light works best, with 
said basket?

TL;DR
I had already collected the bars, Nitto NTC110DX stem, DeoreXT FD-781 front 
derailleur, DeoreXT RD-M772 rear derailleur, Sugino XD2 triple front drive, 
and bar end shifters.  I’m in the process of building up Velocity Dyad 
wheels with a SON front generator hub and a DeoreLX rear hub.

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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Alan Craig Barnard]

Hi,

I picked up my 60cm Platypus frame from Riv headquarters last Wednesday 
(James said I was the first to pick up).

The box was sealed from Taiwan. Upon unpacking, the headset cups were 
installed, the fork was not, the loose headset parts were in a plastic bag. 
Installing the fork was not difficult, though I did look up a spec sheet 
for the headset to be sure I placed the seals in the correct orientation.

Both the derailleur hanger and the bottom bracket shell needed chasing. The 
drive side of the BB was fine, but there was some brazing material that 
needed cleaning on the non-drive side. Not a big deal. 

The headbadge was slightly loose, I wrapped a couple of rubber bands around 
the badge and head tube overnight which solved the problem.

My wheels won’t arrive for another few weeks, I’ll check the derailleur 
alignment then. 

These are all pretty normal little things you’d expect to encounter on a 
frame delivered directly from the factory. Overall I’m extremely pleased 
and the frame is drop dead gorgeous. I’m sort of documenting the build 
process on Instagram if anyone is interested: @ecovelo.us

Alan

On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 5:50:29 PM UTC-7 John Hawrylak wrote:

> Scott
>
> AFAIK RBW had stated in the newsletter that they do not want to open the 
> box just to check it sicne they need to ship it in another box.  One can 
> see their logic, especially since they are handling many more frames than 5 
> years ago, and can't/don't have the time to check them or feel the level of 
> service they provided in the past is just unattainable now,
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 11:14:06 AM UTC-4 Scott wrote:
>
>> Joe:
>>
>> I talked to Riv earlier this week about purchasing an Atlantis and posed 
>> a few questions about F/F prep. I'm not here to make a blanket statement 
>> about how all F/F are handled before they depart Riv, but I was told they 
>> receive the Atlantis F/F with headset already installed and that a F/F I 
>> purchase would not have the hanger checked/aligned before sent to me. My 
>> "guess" is they may not even unpack the F/F when they receive it. There 
>> wouldn't be any reason for them to open it up, if nothing is to be done on 
>> F/F. Maybe they are so busy it's easier to just place a new shipping label 
>> on the box and out it goes. I live in rural Montana and am a little bummed 
>> I have to travel a good distance just to ensure hanger is properly aligned 
>> after spending $1750 on a new baby. And I would doubt the threads are 
>> chased.
>>
>> Nothing whatsoever against Riv, just an observation. Seems it should be 
>> part of the frame making process to quickly verify proper hanger position 
>> somewhere between frame build completion and paint. I'm going to travel and 
>> pay to have it done, anyways.
>>
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 08:21:39 PM MDT, Joe Bernard <
>> joer...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> Are these frames being sold as unprepped? I'm not clear on where they are 
>> with that now but it would certainly slow down my "buy" finger if I knew I 
>> still had to install the fork, adjust the headset, chase the threads and 
>> check the derailer hanger adjustment. 
>>
>> Joe "I don't know how to do the last two parts" Bernard 
>>
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 6:52:23 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>> I imagine quite a few have sold but Riv not being able to offer many 
>> complete builds may be reducing sales. Hopefully they can get caught up on 
>> the backlog of builds in the queue. And, the Rosco version of the Platypus 
>> was just released recently so that fulfilled some people's wish for a mixte 
>> type road bike.
>> Doug
>>
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:13:17 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>> It would seem that demand is mirroring that of the housing market.  
>> Decidedly cooler than 12 months ago when Platys and house listing were sold 
>> out in mere hours. 
>>
>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 2:34:14 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>> I think they will sell pretty quick but not as lightning fast as they did 
>> during the pandemic.
>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>> There is still one Rosco Plat in 60cm of each color available, so maybe 
>> supply and demand are balancing out. At least for the taller folks. 
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Monday, October 10, 2022, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I can never tamp down my excitement over the Riv mixtes and have given up 
>> trying. I’m SO excited that there is a paddle of Platypuses on the water, 
>> heading to Rivendell as I type this. I remember the excitement of the 2020 
>> Platypuses (which were delivered in 2021); they were gone in minutes. 
>> Heartbreak and jubilee ensued and then came the waiting. 
>>
>> But the wait is nearly over because the presale is the 19th. I’m keen to 
>> know if these will sell out as quickly or if demand and availability will 
>> have 

Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Alan Barnard]

I also found the derailleur hanger out of alignment more than usual. Like 
you said though, not a difficult fix. I also had some brazing material 
leftover in the left hand bottom bracket threads that required chasing. The 
Phil Wood retaining cup wouldn’t go in on that side, but was fine after 
chasing. 

On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 8:48:09 AM UTC-7 Mark C wrote:

> My Rosco Platypus came with the fork off, but lots of extra packing added 
> to the box by Rivendell. I ordered the Park derailleur alignment tool since 
> that is the bike shop standard and not that much money. I was surprised how 
> far the tab was out of alignment, but it was no big deal to put it right. 
> It is probably a good idea to watch a couple videos if you haven't seen one 
> used before. It took me a little longer than expected to finish putting 
> mine together since I had a lot of parts decisions to sort out, but got to 
> ride it the day after the frame arrived. These are amazing bikes.
>
> BTW, I really like how Will routed the rear brake cable on his Platypus 
> more or less straight to the V brake noodle instead of going up then down, 
> so I did something similar. I'm surprised this isn't the standard build 
> now. You can just barely see it with the staff bike pictures on their site.
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/wills-60cm-platypus
> I ran just a bit longer housing at the rear and decided that needed a wire 
> tie or twine to bring it closer to the frame. Will's looks shorter/tighter 
> and probably didn't need that.
>
> On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 10:52:14 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>
>> There is one on Amazon for 37.50 that is a clone of the Park:
>>
>> [image: tool.JPG]
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 10:47:19 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you  Laing for the derailleur hanger alignment tool tip. I think 
>>> I'll order this one from Nashbar, only $54.95.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.nashbar.com/super-b-derailleur-hanger-alignment-gauge-silver-tb-1946/p1398199?gclid=Cj0KCQjwqoibBhDUARIsAH2OpWgTQxYdht-0vbnpE-So3anrX8FnoYvXu0tfPrjzHaAV72CFexJOtlkaAtXGEALw_wcB
>>>
>>> JohnS
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 9:49:28 AM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:
>>>
 An Instagram update from yesterday shows Platypus frames are being 
 packed and shipped!
 https://www.instagram.com/p/Ckbmiz_S5GB/

 Anyone get a shipping notification for theirs yet?

 -Dave

 On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 8:50:29 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak wrote:

> Scott
>
> AFAIK RBW had stated in the newsletter that they do not want to open 
> the box just to check it sicne they need to ship it in another box.  One 
> can see their logic, especially since they are handling many more frames 
> than 5 years ago, and can't/don't have the time to check them or feel the 
> level of service they provided in the past is just unattainable now,
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 11:14:06 AM UTC-4 Scott wrote:
>
>> Joe:
>>
>> I talked to Riv earlier this week about purchasing an Atlantis and 
>> posed a few questions about F/F prep. I'm not here to make a blanket 
>> statement about how all F/F are handled before they depart Riv, but I 
>> was 
>> told they receive the Atlantis F/F with headset already installed and 
>> that 
>> a F/F I purchase would not have the hanger checked/aligned before sent 
>> to 
>> me. My "guess" is they may not even unpack the F/F when they receive it. 
>> There wouldn't be any reason for them to open it up, if nothing is to be 
>> done on F/F. Maybe they are so busy it's easier to just place a new 
>> shipping label on the box and out it goes. I live in rural Montana and 
>> am a 
>> little bummed I have to travel a good distance just to ensure hanger is 
>> properly aligned after spending $1750 on a new baby. And I would doubt 
>> the 
>> threads are chased.
>>
>> Nothing whatsoever against Riv, just an observation. Seems it should 
>> be part of the frame making process to quickly verify proper hanger 
>> position somewhere between frame build completion and paint. I'm going 
>> to 
>> travel and pay to have it done, anyways.
>>
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 08:21:39 PM MDT, Joe Bernard <
>> joer...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> Are these frames being sold as unprepped? I'm not clear on where they 
>> are with that now but it would certainly slow down my "buy" finger if I 
>> knew I still had to install the fork, adjust the headset, chase the 
>> threads 
>> and check the derailer hanger adjustment. 
>>
>> Joe "I don't know how to do the last two parts" Bernard 
>>
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 6:52:23 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>> I imagine quite a few have sold but Riv not being able to offer many 
>> complete builds 

Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Stephanie A.]

I wish! I just bought a commuter bike this spring and have been busy making 
changes to it--maybe next year or the year after. Rivs that I wanted were 
all out of stock in my size when I needed a bike a few months ago.

On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 9:49:28 AM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:

> An Instagram update from yesterday shows Platypus frames are being packed 
> and shipped!
> https://www.instagram.com/p/Ckbmiz_S5GB/
>
> Anyone get a shipping notification for theirs yet?
>
> -Dave
>
> On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 8:50:29 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak wrote:
>
>> Scott
>>
>> AFAIK RBW had stated in the newsletter that they do not want to open the 
>> box just to check it sicne they need to ship it in another box.  One can 
>> see their logic, especially since they are handling many more frames than 5 
>> years ago, and can't/don't have the time to check them or feel the level of 
>> service they provided in the past is just unattainable now,
>>
>> John Hawrylak
>> Woodstown NJ
>>
>> On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 11:14:06 AM UTC-4 Scott wrote:
>>
>>> Joe:
>>>
>>> I talked to Riv earlier this week about purchasing an Atlantis and posed 
>>> a few questions about F/F prep. I'm not here to make a blanket statement 
>>> about how all F/F are handled before they depart Riv, but I was told they 
>>> receive the Atlantis F/F with headset already installed and that a F/F I 
>>> purchase would not have the hanger checked/aligned before sent to me. My 
>>> "guess" is they may not even unpack the F/F when they receive it. There 
>>> wouldn't be any reason for them to open it up, if nothing is to be done on 
>>> F/F. Maybe they are so busy it's easier to just place a new shipping label 
>>> on the box and out it goes. I live in rural Montana and am a little bummed 
>>> I have to travel a good distance just to ensure hanger is properly aligned 
>>> after spending $1750 on a new baby. And I would doubt the threads are 
>>> chased.
>>>
>>> Nothing whatsoever against Riv, just an observation. Seems it should be 
>>> part of the frame making process to quickly verify proper hanger position 
>>> somewhere between frame build completion and paint. I'm going to travel and 
>>> pay to have it done, anyways.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 08:21:39 PM MDT, Joe Bernard <
>>> joer...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>
>>>
>>> Are these frames being sold as unprepped? I'm not clear on where they 
>>> are with that now but it would certainly slow down my "buy" finger if I 
>>> knew I still had to install the fork, adjust the headset, chase the threads 
>>> and check the derailer hanger adjustment. 
>>>
>>> Joe "I don't know how to do the last two parts" Bernard 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 6:52:23 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
>>> I imagine quite a few have sold but Riv not being able to offer many 
>>> complete builds may be reducing sales. Hopefully they can get caught up on 
>>> the backlog of builds in the queue. And, the Rosco version of the Platypus 
>>> was just released recently so that fulfilled some people's wish for a mixte 
>>> type road bike.
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:13:17 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> It would seem that demand is mirroring that of the housing market.  
>>> Decidedly cooler than 12 months ago when Platys and house listing were sold 
>>> out in mere hours. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 2:34:14 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
>>> I think they will sell pretty quick but not as lightning fast as they 
>>> did during the pandemic.
>>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>>>
>>> There is still one Rosco Plat in 60cm of each color available, so maybe 
>>> supply and demand are balancing out. At least for the taller folks. 
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 10, 2022, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I can never tamp down my excitement over the Riv mixtes and have given 
>>> up trying. I’m SO excited that there is a paddle of Platypuses on the 
>>> water, heading to Rivendell as I type this. I remember the excitement of 
>>> the 2020 Platypuses (which were delivered in 2021); they were gone in 
>>> minutes. Heartbreak and jubilee ensued and then came the waiting. 
>>>
>>> But the wait is nearly over because the presale is the 19th. I’m keen to 
>>> know if these will sell out as quickly or if demand and availability will 
>>> have evened out by now. 
>>>
>>> Who is purchasing a Platypus? 
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Brian Forsee]

That wolf tooth tool looks pretty slick, but i'm not sure i'd ever carry 
one on a tour. When in a pinch, I've had good luck putting an allen wrench 
in the derailleur mounting bolt (still attached to hanger) and using that 
as a way to pry the hanger back into shape. You can usually get it good 
enough. Certainly good enough for friction shifting. How good this works 
does depend on how deep the tooling is on your derailleur mounting bolt.

Brian

On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 11:36:54 AM UTC-5 Tom M wrote:

> Thanks, Garth. These are great videos, and the Wolf Tooth tool looks 
> amazing.
> Tom Milani
> Alexandria, VA, USA
>
> On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 4:03:49 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>
>> For RD hanger alignment, I looked at all that was available for high to 
>> low. I grew up using the Campy beam style one so I was used to that method 
>> using the rear rim to measure off of, and that's the most common. Still, 
>> they're rather large and they rely on not only your rear wheel being true, 
>> but the all the tolerances of the tool being tight, without play. I bought 
>> the Wolf Tooth Pack Hanger Alignment tool instead as it uses the rear axle 
>> as the reference point rather than the rim, so it's very compact and even 
>> portable for those with bikes with aluminum hangers that go out of 
>> alignment easily. Only the quick release kit is needed for bikes like ours. 
>> It's very compact and easy to use. Here's a video with JIm Langley on how 
>> to use it.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxmLuO56e4Y=1
>>
>>
>> https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/products/pack-hanger-alignment-tool?variant=14719026790435
>>
>>
>> https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0230/9291/products/WT_Hanger_Alignment_Tool_QR_Kit_02_800x.jpg
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

['Tom M' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks, Garth. These are great videos, and the Wolf Tooth tool looks 
amazing.
Tom Milani
Alexandria, VA, USA

On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 4:03:49 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

> For RD hanger alignment, I looked at all that was available for high to 
> low. I grew up using the Campy beam style one so I was used to that method 
> using the rear rim to measure off of, and that's the most common. Still, 
> they're rather large and they rely on not only your rear wheel being true, 
> but the all the tolerances of the tool being tight, without play. I bought 
> the Wolf Tooth Pack Hanger Alignment tool instead as it uses the rear axle 
> as the reference point rather than the rim, so it's very compact and even 
> portable for those with bikes with aluminum hangers that go out of 
> alignment easily. Only the quick release kit is needed for bikes like ours. 
> It's very compact and easy to use. Here's a video with JIm Langley on how 
> to use it.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxmLuO56e4Y=1
>
>
> https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/products/pack-hanger-alignment-tool?variant=14719026790435
>
>
> https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0230/9291/products/WT_Hanger_Alignment_Tool_QR_Kit_02_800x.jpg
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Bill Schairer]

Garth,
Thanks for posting that on the wolftooth pack hanger.  I didn't know about 
those.  I already have the Park tool but may get the wolftooth tool anyway 
- looks light, compact,  relatively easy to use, and reasonably priced.  
Also, I just like tools.  Possibly something to even take on tour.

Bill S
San Diego

On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 1:03:49 AM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

> For RD hanger alignment, I looked at all that was available for high to 
> low. I grew up using the Campy beam style one so I was used to that method 
> using the rear rim to measure off of, and that's the most common. Still, 
> they're rather large and they rely on not only your rear wheel being true, 
> but the all the tolerances of the tool being tight, without play. I bought 
> the Wolf Tooth Pack Hanger Alignment tool instead as it uses the rear axle 
> as the reference point rather than the rim, so it's very compact and even 
> portable for those with bikes with aluminum hangers that go out of 
> alignment easily. Only the quick release kit is needed for bikes like ours. 
> It's very compact and easy to use. Here's a video with JIm Langley on how 
> to use it.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxmLuO56e4Y=1
>
>
> https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/products/pack-hanger-alignment-tool?variant=14719026790435
>
>
> https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0230/9291/products/WT_Hanger_Alignment_Tool_QR_Kit_02_800x.jpg
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Garth]

For RD hanger alignment, I looked at all that was available for high to 
low. I grew up using the Campy beam style one so I was used to that method 
using the rear rim to measure off of, and that's the most common. Still, 
they're rather large and they rely on not only your rear wheel being true, 
but the all the tolerances of the tool being tight, without play. I bought 
the Wolf Tooth Pack Hanger Alignment tool instead as it uses the rear axle 
as the reference point rather than the rim, so it's very compact and even 
portable for those with bikes with aluminum hangers that go out of 
alignment easily. Only the quick release kit is needed for bikes like ours. 
It's very compact and easy to use. Here's a video with JIm Langley on how 
to use it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxmLuO56e4Y=1

https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/products/pack-hanger-alignment-tool?variant=14719026790435

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0230/9291/products/WT_Hanger_Alignment_Tool_QR_Kit_02_800x.jpg


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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Mark C]

My Rosco Platypus came with the fork off, but lots of extra packing added 
to the box by Rivendell. I ordered the Park derailleur alignment tool since 
that is the bike shop standard and not that much money. I was surprised how 
far the tab was out of alignment, but it was no big deal to put it right. 
It is probably a good idea to watch a couple videos if you haven't seen one 
used before. It took me a little longer than expected to finish putting 
mine together since I had a lot of parts decisions to sort out, but got to 
ride it the day after the frame arrived. These are amazing bikes.

BTW, I really like how Will routed the rear brake cable on his Platypus 
more or less straight to the V brake noodle instead of going up then down, 
so I did something similar. I'm surprised this isn't the standard build 
now. You can just barely see it with the staff bike pictures on their site.
https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/wills-60cm-platypus
I ran just a bit longer housing at the rear and decided that needed a wire 
tie or twine to bring it closer to the frame. Will's looks shorter/tighter 
and probably didn't need that.

On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 10:52:14 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:

> There is one on Amazon for 37.50 that is a clone of the Park:
>
> [image: tool.JPG]
>
> Laing
>
> On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 10:47:19 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Thank you  Laing for the derailleur hanger alignment tool tip. I think 
>> I'll order this one from Nashbar, only $54.95.
>>
>>
>> https://www.nashbar.com/super-b-derailleur-hanger-alignment-gauge-silver-tb-1946/p1398199?gclid=Cj0KCQjwqoibBhDUARIsAH2OpWgTQxYdht-0vbnpE-So3anrX8FnoYvXu0tfPrjzHaAV72CFexJOtlkaAtXGEALw_wcB
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 9:49:28 AM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:
>>
>>> An Instagram update from yesterday shows Platypus frames are being 
>>> packed and shipped!
>>> https://www.instagram.com/p/Ckbmiz_S5GB/
>>>
>>> Anyone get a shipping notification for theirs yet?
>>>
>>> -Dave
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 8:50:29 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak wrote:
>>>
 Scott

 AFAIK RBW had stated in the newsletter that they do not want to open 
 the box just to check it sicne they need to ship it in another box.  One 
 can see their logic, especially since they are handling many more frames 
 than 5 years ago, and can't/don't have the time to check them or feel the 
 level of service they provided in the past is just unattainable now,

 John Hawrylak
 Woodstown NJ

 On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 11:14:06 AM UTC-4 Scott wrote:

> Joe:
>
> I talked to Riv earlier this week about purchasing an Atlantis and 
> posed a few questions about F/F prep. I'm not here to make a blanket 
> statement about how all F/F are handled before they depart Riv, but I was 
> told they receive the Atlantis F/F with headset already installed and 
> that 
> a F/F I purchase would not have the hanger checked/aligned before sent to 
> me. My "guess" is they may not even unpack the F/F when they receive it. 
> There wouldn't be any reason for them to open it up, if nothing is to be 
> done on F/F. Maybe they are so busy it's easier to just place a new 
> shipping label on the box and out it goes. I live in rural Montana and am 
> a 
> little bummed I have to travel a good distance just to ensure hanger is 
> properly aligned after spending $1750 on a new baby. And I would doubt 
> the 
> threads are chased.
>
> Nothing whatsoever against Riv, just an observation. Seems it should 
> be part of the frame making process to quickly verify proper hanger 
> position somewhere between frame build completion and paint. I'm going to 
> travel and pay to have it done, anyways.
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 08:21:39 PM MDT, Joe Bernard <
> joer...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Are these frames being sold as unprepped? I'm not clear on where they 
> are with that now but it would certainly slow down my "buy" finger if I 
> knew I still had to install the fork, adjust the headset, chase the 
> threads 
> and check the derailer hanger adjustment. 
>
> Joe "I don't know how to do the last two parts" Bernard 
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 6:52:23 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>
> I imagine quite a few have sold but Riv not being able to offer many 
> complete builds may be reducing sales. Hopefully they can get caught up 
> on 
> the backlog of builds in the queue. And, the Rosco version of the 
> Platypus 
> was just released recently so that fulfilled some people's wish for a 
> mixte 
> type road bike.
> Doug
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:13:17 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
> It would seem that demand is mirroring that of the housing market.  
> Decidedly cooler than 12 months ago when Platys and 

Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[JohnS]

Thank you  Laing for the derailleur hanger alignment tool tip. I think I'll 
order this one from Nashbar, only $54.95.

https://www.nashbar.com/super-b-derailleur-hanger-alignment-gauge-silver-tb-1946/p1398199?gclid=Cj0KCQjwqoibBhDUARIsAH2OpWgTQxYdht-0vbnpE-So3anrX8FnoYvXu0tfPrjzHaAV72CFexJOtlkaAtXGEALw_wcB

JohnS

On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 9:49:28 AM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:

> An Instagram update from yesterday shows Platypus frames are being packed 
> and shipped!
> https://www.instagram.com/p/Ckbmiz_S5GB/
>
> Anyone get a shipping notification for theirs yet?
>
> -Dave
>
> On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 8:50:29 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak wrote:
>
>> Scott
>>
>> AFAIK RBW had stated in the newsletter that they do not want to open the 
>> box just to check it sicne they need to ship it in another box.  One can 
>> see their logic, especially since they are handling many more frames than 5 
>> years ago, and can't/don't have the time to check them or feel the level of 
>> service they provided in the past is just unattainable now,
>>
>> John Hawrylak
>> Woodstown NJ
>>
>> On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 11:14:06 AM UTC-4 Scott wrote:
>>
>>> Joe:
>>>
>>> I talked to Riv earlier this week about purchasing an Atlantis and posed 
>>> a few questions about F/F prep. I'm not here to make a blanket statement 
>>> about how all F/F are handled before they depart Riv, but I was told they 
>>> receive the Atlantis F/F with headset already installed and that a F/F I 
>>> purchase would not have the hanger checked/aligned before sent to me. My 
>>> "guess" is they may not even unpack the F/F when they receive it. There 
>>> wouldn't be any reason for them to open it up, if nothing is to be done on 
>>> F/F. Maybe they are so busy it's easier to just place a new shipping label 
>>> on the box and out it goes. I live in rural Montana and am a little bummed 
>>> I have to travel a good distance just to ensure hanger is properly aligned 
>>> after spending $1750 on a new baby. And I would doubt the threads are 
>>> chased.
>>>
>>> Nothing whatsoever against Riv, just an observation. Seems it should be 
>>> part of the frame making process to quickly verify proper hanger position 
>>> somewhere between frame build completion and paint. I'm going to travel and 
>>> pay to have it done, anyways.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 08:21:39 PM MDT, Joe Bernard <
>>> joer...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>
>>>
>>> Are these frames being sold as unprepped? I'm not clear on where they 
>>> are with that now but it would certainly slow down my "buy" finger if I 
>>> knew I still had to install the fork, adjust the headset, chase the threads 
>>> and check the derailer hanger adjustment. 
>>>
>>> Joe "I don't know how to do the last two parts" Bernard 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 6:52:23 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
>>> I imagine quite a few have sold but Riv not being able to offer many 
>>> complete builds may be reducing sales. Hopefully they can get caught up on 
>>> the backlog of builds in the queue. And, the Rosco version of the Platypus 
>>> was just released recently so that fulfilled some people's wish for a mixte 
>>> type road bike.
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:13:17 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> It would seem that demand is mirroring that of the housing market.  
>>> Decidedly cooler than 12 months ago when Platys and house listing were sold 
>>> out in mere hours. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 2:34:14 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
>>> I think they will sell pretty quick but not as lightning fast as they 
>>> did during the pandemic.
>>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>>>
>>> There is still one Rosco Plat in 60cm of each color available, so maybe 
>>> supply and demand are balancing out. At least for the taller folks. 
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 10, 2022, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I can never tamp down my excitement over the Riv mixtes and have given 
>>> up trying. I’m SO excited that there is a paddle of Platypuses on the 
>>> water, heading to Rivendell as I type this. I remember the excitement of 
>>> the 2020 Platypuses (which were delivered in 2021); they were gone in 
>>> minutes. Heartbreak and jubilee ensued and then came the waiting. 
>>>
>>> But the wait is nearly over because the presale is the 19th. I’m keen to 
>>> know if these will sell out as quickly or if demand and availability will 
>>> have evened out by now. 
>>>
>>> Who is purchasing a Platypus? 
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[DavidP]

An Instagram update from yesterday shows Platypus frames are being packed 
and shipped!
https://www.instagram.com/p/Ckbmiz_S5GB/

Anyone get a shipping notification for theirs yet?

-Dave

On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 8:50:29 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak wrote:

> Scott
>
> AFAIK RBW had stated in the newsletter that they do not want to open the 
> box just to check it sicne they need to ship it in another box.  One can 
> see their logic, especially since they are handling many more frames than 5 
> years ago, and can't/don't have the time to check them or feel the level of 
> service they provided in the past is just unattainable now,
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 11:14:06 AM UTC-4 Scott wrote:
>
>> Joe:
>>
>> I talked to Riv earlier this week about purchasing an Atlantis and posed 
>> a few questions about F/F prep. I'm not here to make a blanket statement 
>> about how all F/F are handled before they depart Riv, but I was told they 
>> receive the Atlantis F/F with headset already installed and that a F/F I 
>> purchase would not have the hanger checked/aligned before sent to me. My 
>> "guess" is they may not even unpack the F/F when they receive it. There 
>> wouldn't be any reason for them to open it up, if nothing is to be done on 
>> F/F. Maybe they are so busy it's easier to just place a new shipping label 
>> on the box and out it goes. I live in rural Montana and am a little bummed 
>> I have to travel a good distance just to ensure hanger is properly aligned 
>> after spending $1750 on a new baby. And I would doubt the threads are 
>> chased.
>>
>> Nothing whatsoever against Riv, just an observation. Seems it should be 
>> part of the frame making process to quickly verify proper hanger position 
>> somewhere between frame build completion and paint. I'm going to travel and 
>> pay to have it done, anyways.
>>
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 08:21:39 PM MDT, Joe Bernard <
>> joer...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> Are these frames being sold as unprepped? I'm not clear on where they are 
>> with that now but it would certainly slow down my "buy" finger if I knew I 
>> still had to install the fork, adjust the headset, chase the threads and 
>> check the derailer hanger adjustment. 
>>
>> Joe "I don't know how to do the last two parts" Bernard 
>>
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 6:52:23 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>> I imagine quite a few have sold but Riv not being able to offer many 
>> complete builds may be reducing sales. Hopefully they can get caught up on 
>> the backlog of builds in the queue. And, the Rosco version of the Platypus 
>> was just released recently so that fulfilled some people's wish for a mixte 
>> type road bike.
>> Doug
>>
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:13:17 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>> It would seem that demand is mirroring that of the housing market.  
>> Decidedly cooler than 12 months ago when Platys and house listing were sold 
>> out in mere hours. 
>>
>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 2:34:14 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>> I think they will sell pretty quick but not as lightning fast as they did 
>> during the pandemic.
>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>> There is still one Rosco Plat in 60cm of each color available, so maybe 
>> supply and demand are balancing out. At least for the taller folks. 
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Monday, October 10, 2022, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I can never tamp down my excitement over the Riv mixtes and have given up 
>> trying. I’m SO excited that there is a paddle of Platypuses on the water, 
>> heading to Rivendell as I type this. I remember the excitement of the 2020 
>> Platypuses (which were delivered in 2021); they were gone in minutes. 
>> Heartbreak and jubilee ensued and then came the waiting. 
>>
>> But the wait is nearly over because the presale is the 19th. I’m keen to 
>> know if these will sell out as quickly or if demand and availability will 
>> have evened out by now. 
>>
>> Who is purchasing a Platypus? 
>>
>> Leah
>>
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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

['John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Scott

AFAIK RBW had stated in the newsletter that they do not want to open the 
box just to check it sicne they need to ship it in another box.  One can 
see their logic, especially since they are handling many more frames than 5 
years ago, and can't/don't have the time to check them or feel the level of 
service they provided in the past is just unattainable now,

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 11:14:06 AM UTC-4 Scott wrote:

> Joe:
>
> I talked to Riv earlier this week about purchasing an Atlantis and posed a 
> few questions about F/F prep. I'm not here to make a blanket statement 
> about how all F/F are handled before they depart Riv, but I was told they 
> receive the Atlantis F/F with headset already installed and that a F/F I 
> purchase would not have the hanger checked/aligned before sent to me. My 
> "guess" is they may not even unpack the F/F when they receive it. There 
> wouldn't be any reason for them to open it up, if nothing is to be done on 
> F/F. Maybe they are so busy it's easier to just place a new shipping label 
> on the box and out it goes. I live in rural Montana and am a little bummed 
> I have to travel a good distance just to ensure hanger is properly aligned 
> after spending $1750 on a new baby. And I would doubt the threads are 
> chased.
>
> Nothing whatsoever against Riv, just an observation. Seems it should be 
> part of the frame making process to quickly verify proper hanger position 
> somewhere between frame build completion and paint. I'm going to travel and 
> pay to have it done, anyways.
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 08:21:39 PM MDT, Joe Bernard <
> joer...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Are these frames being sold as unprepped? I'm not clear on where they are 
> with that now but it would certainly slow down my "buy" finger if I knew I 
> still had to install the fork, adjust the headset, chase the threads and 
> check the derailer hanger adjustment. 
>
> Joe "I don't know how to do the last two parts" Bernard 
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 6:52:23 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>
> I imagine quite a few have sold but Riv not being able to offer many 
> complete builds may be reducing sales. Hopefully they can get caught up on 
> the backlog of builds in the queue. And, the Rosco version of the Platypus 
> was just released recently so that fulfilled some people's wish for a mixte 
> type road bike.
> Doug
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:13:17 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
> It would seem that demand is mirroring that of the housing market.  
> Decidedly cooler than 12 months ago when Platys and house listing were sold 
> out in mere hours. 
>
> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 2:34:14 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
> I think they will sell pretty quick but not as lightning fast as they did 
> during the pandemic.
> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>
> There is still one Rosco Plat in 60cm of each color available, so maybe 
> supply and demand are balancing out. At least for the taller folks. 
>
> Eric
>
> On Monday, October 10, 2022, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
> wrote:
>
> I can never tamp down my excitement over the Riv mixtes and have given up 
> trying. I’m SO excited that there is a paddle of Platypuses on the water, 
> heading to Rivendell as I type this. I remember the excitement of the 2020 
> Platypuses (which were delivered in 2021); they were gone in minutes. 
> Heartbreak and jubilee ensued and then came the waiting. 
>
> But the wait is nearly over because the presale is the 19th. I’m keen to 
> know if these will sell out as quickly or if demand and availability will 
> have evened out by now. 
>
> Who is purchasing a Platypus? 
>
> Leah
>
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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[lconley]

I would never trust that a frame that had been shipped still has the 
derailleur hanger aligned. Derailleur hangers get bumped out of alignment 
all the time even in normal use. Even a Park hanger tool isn't that 
expensive - about the same price as a mid-grade derailleur, lower priced 
tools are about the same as an Altus derailleur. One of those tools that I 
can't live without now that I have one.

Laing

On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 11:14:06 AM UTC-4 Scott wrote:

> Joe:
>
> I talked to Riv earlier this week about purchasing an Atlantis and posed a 
> few questions about F/F prep. I'm not here to make a blanket statement 
> about how all F/F are handled before they depart Riv, but I was told they 
> receive the Atlantis F/F with headset already installed and that a F/F I 
> purchase would not have the hanger checked/aligned before sent to me. My 
> "guess" is they may not even unpack the F/F when they receive it. There 
> wouldn't be any reason for them to open it up, if nothing is to be done on 
> F/F. Maybe they are so busy it's easier to just place a new shipping label 
> on the box and out it goes. I live in rural Montana and am a little bummed 
> I have to travel a good distance just to ensure hanger is properly aligned 
> after spending $1750 on a new baby. And I would doubt the threads are 
> chased.
>
> Nothing whatsoever against Riv, just an observation. Seems it should be 
> part of the frame making process to quickly verify proper hanger position 
> somewhere between frame build completion and paint. I'm going to travel and 
> pay to have it done, anyways.
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 08:21:39 PM MDT, Joe Bernard <
> joer...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Are these frames being sold as unprepped? I'm not clear on where they are 
> with that now but it would certainly slow down my "buy" finger if I knew I 
> still had to install the fork, adjust the headset, chase the threads and 
> check the derailer hanger adjustment. 
>
> Joe "I don't know how to do the last two parts" Bernard 
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 6:52:23 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>
> I imagine quite a few have sold but Riv not being able to offer many 
> complete builds may be reducing sales. Hopefully they can get caught up on 
> the backlog of builds in the queue. And, the Rosco version of the Platypus 
> was just released recently so that fulfilled some people's wish for a mixte 
> type road bike.
> Doug
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:13:17 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
> It would seem that demand is mirroring that of the housing market.  
> Decidedly cooler than 12 months ago when Platys and house listing were sold 
> out in mere hours. 
>
> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 2:34:14 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
> I think they will sell pretty quick but not as lightning fast as they did 
> during the pandemic.
> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>
> There is still one Rosco Plat in 60cm of each color available, so maybe 
> supply and demand are balancing out. At least for the taller folks. 
>
> Eric
>
> On Monday, October 10, 2022, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
> wrote:
>
> I can never tamp down my excitement over the Riv mixtes and have given up 
> trying. I’m SO excited that there is a paddle of Platypuses on the water, 
> heading to Rivendell as I type this. I remember the excitement of the 2020 
> Platypuses (which were delivered in 2021); they were gone in minutes. 
> Heartbreak and jubilee ensued and then came the waiting. 
>
> But the wait is nearly over because the presale is the 19th. I’m keen to 
> know if these will sell out as quickly or if demand and availability will 
> have evened out by now. 
>
> Who is purchasing a Platypus? 
>
> Leah
>
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[藍俊彪]

Their latest newsletter notes that they open up the box to put in more
packing materials (and possibly the seatpost) before repacking it and
shipping it. Most bike shops should have a frame alignment table, though
around here the shops are pretty impacted as well so it might take a while.

On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 8:14 AM 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Joe:
>
> I talked to Riv earlier this week about purchasing an Atlantis and posed a
> few questions about F/F prep. I'm not here to make a blanket statement
> about how all F/F are handled before they depart Riv, but I was told they
> receive the Atlantis F/F with headset already installed and that a F/F I
> purchase would not have the hanger checked/aligned before sent to me. My
> "guess" is they may not even unpack the F/F when they receive it. There
> wouldn't be any reason for them to open it up, if nothing is to be done on
> F/F. Maybe they are so busy it's easier to just place a new shipping label
> on the box and out it goes. I live in rural Montana and am a little bummed
> I have to travel a good distance just to ensure hanger is properly aligned
> after spending $1750 on a new baby. And I would doubt the threads are
> chased.
>
> Nothing whatsoever against Riv, just an observation. Seems it should be
> part of the frame making process to quickly verify proper hanger position
> somewhere between frame build completion and paint. I'm going to travel and
> pay to have it done, anyways.
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 08:21:39 PM MDT, Joe Bernard <
> joerem...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Are these frames being sold as unprepped? I'm not clear on where they are
> with that now but it would certainly slow down my "buy" finger if I knew I
> still had to install the fork, adjust the headset, chase the threads and
> check the derailer hanger adjustment.
>
> Joe "I don't know how to do the last two parts" Bernard
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 6:52:23 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>
> I imagine quite a few have sold but Riv not being able to offer many
> complete builds may be reducing sales. Hopefully they can get caught up on
> the backlog of builds in the queue. And, the Rosco version of the Platypus
> was just released recently so that fulfilled some people's wish for a mixte
> type road bike.
> Doug
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:13:17 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
> It would seem that demand is mirroring that of the housing market.
> Decidedly cooler than 12 months ago when Platys and house listing were sold
> out in mere hours.
>
> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 2:34:14 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
> I think they will sell pretty quick but not as lightning fast as they did
> during the pandemic.
> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>
> There is still one Rosco Plat in 60cm of each color available, so maybe
> supply and demand are balancing out. At least for the taller folks.
>
> Eric
>
> On Monday, October 10, 2022, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
> I can never tamp down my excitement over the Riv mixtes and have given up
> trying. I’m SO excited that there is a paddle of Platypuses on the water,
> heading to Rivendell as I type this. I remember the excitement of the 2020
> Platypuses (which were delivered in 2021); they were gone in minutes.
> Heartbreak and jubilee ensued and then came the waiting.
>
> But the wait is nearly over because the presale is the 19th. I’m keen to
> know if these will sell out as quickly or if demand and availability will
> have evened out by now.
>
> Who is purchasing a Platypus?
>
> Leah
>
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['Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch]

 Joe:
I talked to Riv earlier this week about purchasing an Atlantis and posed a few 
questions about F/F prep. I'm not here to make a blanket statement about how 
all F/F are handled before they depart Riv, but I was told they receive the 
Atlantis F/F with headset already installed and that a F/F I purchase would not 
have the hanger checked/aligned before sent to me. My "guess" is they may not 
even unpack the F/F when they receive it. There wouldn't be any reason for them 
to open it up, if nothing is to be done on F/F. Maybe they are so busy it's 
easier to just place a new shipping label on the box and out it goes. I live in 
rural Montana and am a little bummed I have to travel a good distance just to 
ensure hanger is properly aligned after spending $1750 on a new baby. And I 
would doubt the threads are chased.
Nothing whatsoever against Riv, just an observation. Seems it should be part of 
the frame making process to quickly verify proper hanger position somewhere 
between frame build completion and paint. I'm going to travel and pay to have 
it done, anyways.

On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 08:21:39 PM MDT, Joe Bernard 
 wrote:  
 
 Are these frames being sold as unprepped? I'm not clear on where they are with 
that now but it would certainly slow down my "buy" finger if I knew I still had 
to install the fork, adjust the headset, chase the threads and check the 
derailer hanger adjustment. 
Joe "I don't know how to do the last two parts" Bernard 

On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 6:52:23 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:

I imagine quite a few have sold but Riv not being able to offer many complete 
builds may be reducing sales. Hopefully they can get caught up on the backlog 
of builds in the queue. And, the Rosco version of the Platypus was just 
released recently so that fulfilled some people's wish for a mixte type road 
bike.Doug

On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:13:17 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:

It would seem that demand is mirroring that of the housing market.  Decidedly 
cooler than 12 months ago when Platys and house listing were sold out in mere 
hours. 

On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 2:34:14 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

I think they will sell pretty quick but not as lightning fast as they did 
during the pandemic.On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume 
wrote:

There is still one Rosco Plat in 60cm of each color available, so maybe supply 
and demand are balancing out. At least for the taller folks. 
Eric

On Monday, October 10, 2022, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
wrote:

I can never tamp down my excitement over the Riv mixtes and have given up 
trying. I’m SO excited that there is a paddle of Platypuses on the water, 
heading to Rivendell as I type this. I remember the excitement of the 2020 
Platypuses (which were delivered in 2021); they were gone in minutes. 
Heartbreak and jubilee ensued and then came the waiting. 
But the wait is nearly over because the presale is the 19th. I’m keen to know 
if these will sell out as quickly or if demand and availability will have 
evened out by now. 
Who is purchasing a Platypus? 
Leah





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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Luke Hendrickson]

I believe so. The der hanger adjust isn’t so bad (I work at a bike shop so 
there’s that!), but I didn’t know that the threading needing chasing, too. 

On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:21:33 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Are these frames being sold as unprepped? I'm not clear on where they are 
> with that now but it would certainly slow down my "buy" finger if I knew I 
> still had to install the fork, adjust the headset, chase the threads and 
> check the derailer hanger adjustment. 
>
> Joe "I don't know how to do the last two parts" Bernard 
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 6:52:23 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> I imagine quite a few have sold but Riv not being able to offer many 
>> complete builds may be reducing sales. Hopefully they can get caught up on 
>> the backlog of builds in the queue. And, the Rosco version of the Platypus 
>> was just released recently so that fulfilled some people's wish for a mixte 
>> type road bike.
>> Doug
>>
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:13:17 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It would seem that demand is mirroring that of the housing market.  
>>> Decidedly cooler than 12 months ago when Platys and house listing were sold 
>>> out in mere hours. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 2:34:14 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 I think they will sell pretty quick but not as lightning fast as they 
 did during the pandemic.
 On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:

> There is still one Rosco Plat in 60cm of each color available, so 
> maybe supply and demand are balancing out. At least for the taller folks. 
>
> Eric
>
> On Monday, October 10, 2022, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I can never tamp down my excitement over the Riv mixtes and have 
>> given up trying. I’m SO excited that there is a paddle of Platypuses on 
>> the 
>> water, heading to Rivendell as I type this. I remember the excitement of 
>> the 2020 Platypuses (which were delivered in 2021); they were gone in 
>> minutes. Heartbreak and jubilee ensued and then came the waiting. 
>>
>> But the wait is nearly over because the presale is the 19th. I’m keen 
>> to know if these will sell out as quickly or if demand and availability 
>> will have evened out by now. 
>>
>> Who is purchasing a Platypus? 
>>
>> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Joe Bernard]

Leah, 

I totally agree that having some frames left in stock is MUCH better than 
what we've been looking at the last couple years, I just had this exact 
conversation with another list member yesterday. I think it's great that - 
for the moment at least - people will be able to notice a Platypus frame on 
the internet...and buy it! 

Joe Bernard 

On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 4:29:48 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I think the presale still went really well, even if they did not sell out 
> of frames. Honestly, I’d like to be able to send people to Rivendell and 
> them to actually have bikes available when I do. There have been many times 
> I’ve been asked about my bike but Rivendell doesn’t have any for purchase. 
> I’ve spent lots of time combing through the internet in hopes of finding a 
> used one for a friend or a stranger on the internet. So, this is good.
>
> Side story: My best friend from Vegas (who moved out of state soon after I 
> did) got a used Platypus from the List. She has a carbon bike and is a 
> triathlete, so I wasn’t sure how it would go. But she loves her new bike. 
> LOVES it. Hers is mermaid and she put pink and white accents on it.
>
> Back to business. Did the dealers get allotments of the Platypuses? I 
> haven’t seen anything on Instagram about it. I think Rivendell started with 
> 50 frames per size at the presale. I hope there is an explosion in the 
> Platypus population out on the roads soon. Which may be the case, since Riv 
> isn’t doing the builds and probably not the prep, either. The turnaround 
> time should be a lot faster. 
>
> On Oct 20, 2022, at 10:22 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> I'm speaking in general terms. I'm not buying a frame! 
>
>
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:21:33 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Are these frames being sold as unprepped? I'm not clear on where they are 
>> with that now but it would certainly slow down my "buy" finger if I knew I 
>> still had to install the fork, adjust the headset, chase the threads and 
>> check the derailer hanger adjustment. 
>>
>> Joe "I don't know how to do the last two parts" Bernard 
>>
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 6:52:23 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> I imagine quite a few have sold but Riv not being able to offer many 
>>> complete builds may be reducing sales. Hopefully they can get caught up on 
>>> the backlog of builds in the queue. And, the Rosco version of the Platypus 
>>> was just released recently so that fulfilled some people's wish for a mixte 
>>> type road bike.
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:13:17 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 It would seem that demand is mirroring that of the housing market.  
 Decidedly cooler than 12 months ago when Platys and house listing were 
 sold 
 out in mere hours. 

 On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 2:34:14 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I think they will sell pretty quick but not as lightning fast as they 
> did during the pandemic.
> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> There is still one Rosco Plat in 60cm of each color available, so 
>> maybe supply and demand are balancing out. At least for the taller 
>> folks. 
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Monday, October 10, 2022, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I can never tamp down my excitement over the Riv mixtes and have 
>>> given up trying. I’m SO excited that there is a paddle of Platypuses on 
>>> the 
>>> water, heading to Rivendell as I type this. I remember the excitement 
>>> of 
>>> the 2020 Platypuses (which were delivered in 2021); they were gone in 
>>> minutes. Heartbreak and jubilee ensued and then came the waiting. 
>>>
>>> But the wait is nearly over because the presale is the 19th. I’m 
>>> keen to know if these will sell out as quickly or if demand and 
>>> availability will have evened out by now. 
>>>
>>> Who is purchasing a Platypus? 
>>>
>>> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Jason Fuller]

As of this moment, there are 20x 50cm, 13x 55cm and 32x 60cm available. You 
can tell by how many it lets you add to cart.  

Must have been a big batch! Or they're selling slowly - likely, most people 
who want one got one on the last sale.  I suspect there will be 60's for a 
while, but the 55's won't last all that long. Long enough that there's no 
reason to complain about missing out, which is nice.  

On Friday, 21 October 2022 at 07:49:35 UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Rivendell Instagram page indicates only “a few of each size” still 
> available. Sounds like the sale went pretty well?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 20, 2022, at 7:13 PM, David Person  wrote:
>
> It would seem that demand is mirroring that of the housing market.  
> Decidedly cooler than 12 months ago when Platys and house listing were sold 
> out in mere hours. 
>
>
>
> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 2:34:14 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> I think they will sell pretty quick but not as lightning fast as they did 
>> during the pandemic.
>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> There is still one Rosco Plat in 60cm of each color available, so maybe 
>>> supply and demand are balancing out. At least for the taller folks. 
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 10, 2022, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I can never tamp down my excitement over the Riv mixtes and have given 
 up trying. I’m SO excited that there is a paddle of Platypuses on the 
 water, heading to Rivendell as I type this. I remember the excitement of 
 the 2020 Platypuses (which were delivered in 2021); they were gone in 
 minutes. Heartbreak and jubilee ensued and then came the waiting. 

 But the wait is nearly over because the presale is the 19th. I’m keen 
 to know if these will sell out as quickly or if demand and availability 
 will have evened out by now. 

 Who is purchasing a Platypus? 

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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Richard Rose]

Rivendell Instagram page indicates only “a few of each size” still available. 
Sounds like the sale went pretty well?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2022, at 7:13 PM, David Person  wrote:
> 
> It would seem that demand is mirroring that of the housing market.  
> Decidedly cooler than 12 months ago when Platys and house listing were sold 
> out in mere hours. 
> 
>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 2:34:14 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>> I think they will sell pretty quick but not as lightning fast as they did 
>> during the pandemic.
>>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>>> There is still one Rosco Plat in 60cm of each color available, so maybe 
>>> supply and demand are balancing out. At least for the taller folks. 
>>> 
>>> Eric
>>> 
 On Monday, October 10, 2022, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
  wrote:
 I can never tamp down my excitement over the Riv mixtes and have given up 
 trying. I’m SO excited that there is a paddle of Platypuses on the water, 
 heading to Rivendell as I type this. I remember the excitement of the 2020 
 Platypuses (which were delivered in 2021); they were gone in minutes. 
 Heartbreak and jubilee ensued and then came the waiting. 
 
 But the wait is nearly over because the presale is the 19th. I’m keen to 
 know if these will sell out as quickly or if demand and availability will 
 have evened out by now. 
 
 Who is purchasing a Platypus? 
 
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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Piaw Na]

Yes. They are no longer installing forks unless you're picking up in 
person. Nowadays there are many mobile bike shops who will come to your 
home to do the bike build if you can't do it yourself, though I don't know 
if those bike vans have frame alignment tables. But I wouldn't attribute 
the slower than usual sales to the lack of frame prep. It could be that 
they recently just sold a bunch of Rosco Platypus, and it could also be 
that they had a larger than usual shipment of bikes.

On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:21:33 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Are these frames being sold as unprepped? I'm not clear on where they are 
> with that now but it would certainly slow down my "buy" finger if I knew I 
> still had to install the fork, adjust the headset, chase the threads and 
> check the derailer hanger adjustment. 
>
> Joe "I don't know how to do the last two parts" Bernard 
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 6:52:23 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> I imagine quite a few have sold but Riv not being able to offer many 
>> complete builds may be reducing sales. Hopefully they can get caught up on 
>> the backlog of builds in the queue. And, the Rosco version of the Platypus 
>> was just released recently so that fulfilled some people's wish for a mixte 
>> type road bike.
>> Doug
>>
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:13:17 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It would seem that demand is mirroring that of the housing market.  
>>> Decidedly cooler than 12 months ago when Platys and house listing were sold 
>>> out in mere hours. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 2:34:14 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 I think they will sell pretty quick but not as lightning fast as they 
 did during the pandemic.
 On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:

> There is still one Rosco Plat in 60cm of each color available, so 
> maybe supply and demand are balancing out. At least for the taller folks. 
>
> Eric
>
> On Monday, October 10, 2022, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I can never tamp down my excitement over the Riv mixtes and have 
>> given up trying. I’m SO excited that there is a paddle of Platypuses on 
>> the 
>> water, heading to Rivendell as I type this. I remember the excitement of 
>> the 2020 Platypuses (which were delivered in 2021); they were gone in 
>> minutes. Heartbreak and jubilee ensued and then came the waiting. 
>>
>> But the wait is nearly over because the presale is the 19th. I’m keen 
>> to know if these will sell out as quickly or if demand and availability 
>> will have evened out by now. 
>>
>> Who is purchasing a Platypus? 
>>
>> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Ryan Frahm]

I read in the email that they aren’t doing prep for now and they only took 
on 15 more builds. They are pretty backed up on builds! It is nice for 
anyone on the fence that they didn’t sell out instantly, hopefully it 
doesn’t hurt Riv to have some inventory for a bit. 

On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 4:29:48 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I think the presale still went really well, even if they did not sell out 
> of frames. Honestly, I’d like to be able to send people to Rivendell and 
> them to actually have bikes available when I do. There have been many times 
> I’ve been asked about my bike but Rivendell doesn’t have any for purchase. 
> I’ve spent lots of time combing through the internet in hopes of finding a 
> used one for a friend or a stranger on the internet. So, this is good.
>
> Side story: My best friend from Vegas (who moved out of state soon after I 
> did) got a used Platypus from the List. She has a carbon bike and is a 
> triathlete, so I wasn’t sure how it would go. But she loves her new bike. 
> LOVES it. Hers is mermaid and she put pink and white accents on it.
>
> Back to business. Did the dealers get allotments of the Platypuses? I 
> haven’t seen anything on Instagram about it. I think Rivendell started with 
> 50 frames per size at the presale. I hope there is an explosion in the 
> Platypus population out on the roads soon. Which may be the case, since Riv 
> isn’t doing the builds and probably not the prep, either. The turnaround 
> time should be a lot faster. 
>
> On Oct 20, 2022, at 10:22 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> I'm speaking in general terms. I'm not buying a frame! 
>
>
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:21:33 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Are these frames being sold as unprepped? I'm not clear on where they are 
>> with that now but it would certainly slow down my "buy" finger if I knew I 
>> still had to install the fork, adjust the headset, chase the threads and 
>> check the derailer hanger adjustment. 
>>
>> Joe "I don't know how to do the last two parts" Bernard 
>>
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 6:52:23 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> I imagine quite a few have sold but Riv not being able to offer many 
>>> complete builds may be reducing sales. Hopefully they can get caught up on 
>>> the backlog of builds in the queue. And, the Rosco version of the Platypus 
>>> was just released recently so that fulfilled some people's wish for a mixte 
>>> type road bike.
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:13:17 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 It would seem that demand is mirroring that of the housing market.  
 Decidedly cooler than 12 months ago when Platys and house listing were 
 sold 
 out in mere hours. 

 On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 2:34:14 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I think they will sell pretty quick but not as lightning fast as they 
> did during the pandemic.
> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> There is still one Rosco Plat in 60cm of each color available, so 
>> maybe supply and demand are balancing out. At least for the taller 
>> folks. 
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Monday, October 10, 2022, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I can never tamp down my excitement over the Riv mixtes and have 
>>> given up trying. I’m SO excited that there is a paddle of Platypuses on 
>>> the 
>>> water, heading to Rivendell as I type this. I remember the excitement 
>>> of 
>>> the 2020 Platypuses (which were delivered in 2021); they were gone in 
>>> minutes. Heartbreak and jubilee ensued and then came the waiting. 
>>>
>>> But the wait is nearly over because the presale is the 19th. I’m 
>>> keen to know if these will sell out as quickly or if demand and 
>>> availability will have evened out by now. 
>>>
>>> Who is purchasing a Platypus? 
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Leah Peterson]

I think the presale still went really well, even if they did not sell out of 
frames. Honestly, I’d like to be able to send people to Rivendell and them to 
actually have bikes available when I do. There have been many times I’ve been 
asked about my bike but Rivendell doesn’t have any for purchase. I’ve spent 
lots of time combing through the internet in hopes of finding a used one for a 
friend or a stranger on the internet. So, this is good.

Side story: My best friend from Vegas (who moved out of state soon after I did) 
got a used Platypus from the List. She has a carbon bike and is a triathlete, 
so I wasn’t sure how it would go. But she loves her new bike. LOVES it. Hers is 
mermaid and she put pink and white accents on it.

Back to business. Did the dealers get allotments of the Platypuses? I haven’t 
seen anything on Instagram about it. I think Rivendell started with 50 frames 
per size at the presale. I hope there is an explosion in the Platypus 
population out on the roads soon. Which may be the case, since Riv isn’t doing 
the builds and probably not the prep, either. The turnaround time should be a 
lot faster. 

> On Oct 20, 2022, at 10:22 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> I'm speaking in general terms. I'm not buying a frame! 
> 
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:21:33 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>> Are these frames being sold as unprepped? I'm not clear on where they are 
>> with that now but it would certainly slow down my "buy" finger if I knew I 
>> still had to install the fork, adjust the headset, chase the threads and 
>> check the derailer hanger adjustment. 
>> 
>> Joe "I don't know how to do the last two parts" Bernard 
>> 
>>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 6:52:23 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>> I imagine quite a few have sold but Riv not being able to offer many 
>>> complete builds may be reducing sales. Hopefully they can get caught up on 
>>> the backlog of builds in the queue. And, the Rosco version of the Platypus 
>>> was just released recently so that fulfilled some people's wish for a mixte 
>>> type road bike.
>>> Doug
>>> 
 On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:13:17 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:
 It would seem that demand is mirroring that of the housing market.  
 Decidedly cooler than 12 months ago when Platys and house listing were 
 sold out in mere hours. 
 
> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 2:34:14 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
> I think they will sell pretty quick but not as lightning fast as they did 
> during the pandemic.
>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>> There is still one Rosco Plat in 60cm of each color available, so maybe 
>> supply and demand are balancing out. At least for the taller folks. 
>> 
>> Eric
>> 
>>> On Monday, October 10, 2022, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>>  wrote:
>>> I can never tamp down my excitement over the Riv mixtes and have given 
>>> up trying. I’m SO excited that there is a paddle of Platypuses on the 
>>> water, heading to Rivendell as I type this. I remember the excitement 
>>> of the 2020 Platypuses (which were delivered in 2021); they were gone 
>>> in minutes. Heartbreak and jubilee ensued and then came the waiting. 
>>> 
>>> But the wait is nearly over because the presale is the 19th. I’m keen 
>>> to know if these will sell out as quickly or if demand and availability 
>>> will have evened out by now. 
>>> 
>>> Who is purchasing a Platypus? 
>>> 
>>> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Joe Bernard]

I'm speaking in general terms. I'm not buying a frame! 

On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:21:33 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Are these frames being sold as unprepped? I'm not clear on where they are 
> with that now but it would certainly slow down my "buy" finger if I knew I 
> still had to install the fork, adjust the headset, chase the threads and 
> check the derailer hanger adjustment. 
>
> Joe "I don't know how to do the last two parts" Bernard 
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 6:52:23 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> I imagine quite a few have sold but Riv not being able to offer many 
>> complete builds may be reducing sales. Hopefully they can get caught up on 
>> the backlog of builds in the queue. And, the Rosco version of the Platypus 
>> was just released recently so that fulfilled some people's wish for a mixte 
>> type road bike.
>> Doug
>>
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:13:17 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It would seem that demand is mirroring that of the housing market.  
>>> Decidedly cooler than 12 months ago when Platys and house listing were sold 
>>> out in mere hours. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 2:34:14 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 I think they will sell pretty quick but not as lightning fast as they 
 did during the pandemic.
 On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:

> There is still one Rosco Plat in 60cm of each color available, so 
> maybe supply and demand are balancing out. At least for the taller folks. 
>
> Eric
>
> On Monday, October 10, 2022, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I can never tamp down my excitement over the Riv mixtes and have 
>> given up trying. I’m SO excited that there is a paddle of Platypuses on 
>> the 
>> water, heading to Rivendell as I type this. I remember the excitement of 
>> the 2020 Platypuses (which were delivered in 2021); they were gone in 
>> minutes. Heartbreak and jubilee ensued and then came the waiting. 
>>
>> But the wait is nearly over because the presale is the 19th. I’m keen 
>> to know if these will sell out as quickly or if demand and availability 
>> will have evened out by now. 
>>
>> Who is purchasing a Platypus? 
>>
>> Leah
>>
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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Joe Bernard]

Are these frames being sold as unprepped? I'm not clear on where they are 
with that now but it would certainly slow down my "buy" finger if I knew I 
still had to install the fork, adjust the headset, chase the threads and 
check the derailer hanger adjustment. 

Joe "I don't know how to do the last two parts" Bernard 

On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 6:52:23 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:

> I imagine quite a few have sold but Riv not being able to offer many 
> complete builds may be reducing sales. Hopefully they can get caught up on 
> the backlog of builds in the queue. And, the Rosco version of the Platypus 
> was just released recently so that fulfilled some people's wish for a mixte 
> type road bike.
> Doug
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:13:17 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> It would seem that demand is mirroring that of the housing market.  
>> Decidedly cooler than 12 months ago when Platys and house listing were sold 
>> out in mere hours. 
>>
>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 2:34:14 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> I think they will sell pretty quick but not as lightning fast as they 
>>> did during the pandemic.
>>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>>>
 There is still one Rosco Plat in 60cm of each color available, so maybe 
 supply and demand are balancing out. At least for the taller folks. 

 Eric

 On Monday, October 10, 2022, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
 jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I can never tamp down my excitement over the Riv mixtes and have given 
> up trying. I’m SO excited that there is a paddle of Platypuses on the 
> water, heading to Rivendell as I type this. I remember the excitement of 
> the 2020 Platypuses (which were delivered in 2021); they were gone in 
> minutes. Heartbreak and jubilee ensued and then came the waiting. 
>
> But the wait is nearly over because the presale is the 19th. I’m keen 
> to know if these will sell out as quickly or if demand and availability 
> will have evened out by now. 
>
> Who is purchasing a Platypus? 
>
> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Doug H.]

I imagine quite a few have sold but Riv not being able to offer many 
complete builds may be reducing sales. Hopefully they can get caught up on 
the backlog of builds in the queue. And, the Rosco version of the Platypus 
was just released recently so that fulfilled some people's wish for a mixte 
type road bike.
Doug

On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:13:17 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:

> It would seem that demand is mirroring that of the housing market.  
> Decidedly cooler than 12 months ago when Platys and house listing were sold 
> out in mere hours. 
>
> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 2:34:14 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> I think they will sell pretty quick but not as lightning fast as they did 
>> during the pandemic.
>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> There is still one Rosco Plat in 60cm of each color available, so maybe 
>>> supply and demand are balancing out. At least for the taller folks. 
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 10, 2022, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I can never tamp down my excitement over the Riv mixtes and have given 
 up trying. I’m SO excited that there is a paddle of Platypuses on the 
 water, heading to Rivendell as I type this. I remember the excitement of 
 the 2020 Platypuses (which were delivered in 2021); they were gone in 
 minutes. Heartbreak and jubilee ensued and then came the waiting. 

 But the wait is nearly over because the presale is the 19th. I’m keen 
 to know if these will sell out as quickly or if demand and availability 
 will have evened out by now. 

 Who is purchasing a Platypus? 

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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[David Person]

It would seem that demand is mirroring that of the housing market.  
Decidedly cooler than 12 months ago when Platys and house listing were sold 
out in mere hours. 

On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 2:34:14 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I think they will sell pretty quick but not as lightning fast as they did 
> during the pandemic.
> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> There is still one Rosco Plat in 60cm of each color available, so maybe 
>> supply and demand are balancing out. At least for the taller folks. 
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Monday, October 10, 2022, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I can never tamp down my excitement over the Riv mixtes and have given 
>>> up trying. I’m SO excited that there is a paddle of Platypuses on the 
>>> water, heading to Rivendell as I type this. I remember the excitement of 
>>> the 2020 Platypuses (which were delivered in 2021); they were gone in 
>>> minutes. Heartbreak and jubilee ensued and then came the waiting. 
>>>
>>> But the wait is nearly over because the presale is the 19th. I’m keen to 
>>> know if these will sell out as quickly or if demand and availability will 
>>> have evened out by now. 
>>>
>>> Who is purchasing a Platypus? 
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Johnny Alien]

I think they will sell pretty quick but not as lightning fast as they did 
during the pandemic.
On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:

> There is still one Rosco Plat in 60cm of each color available, so maybe 
> supply and demand are balancing out. At least for the taller folks. 
>
> Eric
>
> On Monday, October 10, 2022, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
> wrote:
>
>> I can never tamp down my excitement over the Riv mixtes and have given up 
>> trying. I’m SO excited that there is a paddle of Platypuses on the water, 
>> heading to Rivendell as I type this. I remember the excitement of the 2020 
>> Platypuses (which were delivered in 2021); they were gone in minutes. 
>> Heartbreak and jubilee ensued and then came the waiting. 
>>
>> But the wait is nearly over because the presale is the 19th. I’m keen to 
>> know if these will sell out as quickly or if demand and availability will 
>> have evened out by now. 
>>
>> Who is purchasing a Platypus? 
>>
>> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Eric Daume]

There is still one Rosco Plat in 60cm of each color available, so maybe
supply and demand are balancing out. At least for the taller folks.

Eric

On Monday, October 10, 2022, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I can never tamp down my excitement over the Riv mixtes and have given up
> trying. I’m SO excited that there is a paddle of Platypuses on the water,
> heading to Rivendell as I type this. I remember the excitement of the 2020
> Platypuses (which were delivered in 2021); they were gone in minutes.
> Heartbreak and jubilee ensued and then came the waiting.
>
> But the wait is nearly over because the presale is the 19th. I’m keen to
> know if these will sell out as quickly or if demand and availability will
> have evened out by now.
>
> Who is purchasing a Platypus?
>
> Leah
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[RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

I can never tamp down my excitement over the Riv mixtes and have given up 
trying. I’m SO excited that there is a paddle of Platypuses on the water, 
heading to Rivendell as I type this. I remember the excitement of the 2020 
Platypuses (which were delivered in 2021); they were gone in minutes. 
Heartbreak and jubilee ensued and then came the waiting. 

But the wait is nearly over because the presale is the 19th. I’m keen to 
know if these will sell out as quickly or if demand and availability will 
have evened out by now. 

Who is purchasing a Platypus? 

Leah

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