Re: Exchange server from pine
On 21 Aug 2003, Jason Dixon wrote: On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 23:45, Didier Casse wrote: Up to now, I've use 100% free software on Linux (Even my Linux was given to me freely!) and I do not have any complains to make. I've also contributed to code on Linux for various stuff and have offered it FREELY for the benefit of the community. Here, have a cookie. Thank you for trying to be funny! I've personally paid for both the Codeweavers Plugin and Office products. Their stuff works great and their support is *excellent*. I only wish that all the other proprietary companies out there could support their stuff like Codeweavers does. Paying for that??!?! You're the one who's a total fool. It's ridiculous having to pay for that. And without adding to the fact that you're paying MS Office too!!! What the heck are you doing in this redhat list? You're on the wrong list pal. That's funny, I thought an RHCE would be considered welcome on this list. Let's see, how often have you offered help to others... searches archives... wow, twice! I find it terribly hypocritical that you're calling me a fool. A nice RHCE would be nice. Not an arrogant one who thinks he knows everything and that opinion of others are bullshit. A nice RHCE who know how to disagree politely also is welcome. :-) Use a proper seach engine dude. I helped other not only in this mailing list but in other lists and outside the lists also. You called me an idiot. If you can't be nice to me, why should I be too you? Anyway I do not use MS Office cause it cranky. I use FREE LaTeX for typsetting which Knuth donated FREELY, and my own slidepro software for Presentations. As for the rest I've more efficient substitutes. This is the real Philosophy you stupid ass. I'm happy you don't have to use Microsoft products. Unfortunately, I work often in a location that requires me to schedule events in their Exchange server. Codeweavers Office + their Outlook license = much better deal for me than Ximian Connector. For the record, all of my whitepapers are written in LyX and converted to pdf and ps for distribution. Why didn't you state it in the first place and state your point rationally rather than criticizing and being aggressive? You're hooked to MS products and your plugin that you bought is another way of showing that you can't use real pure LINUX software and that you still really on those weak software. Hooked? Hardly. I, like other [mature] serious Systems Administrators, use the right tool for the job. More often than not, it's a free tool. Sometimes it's not. serious I would think so. But mature, well I'm not so sure! You lack a lot of maturity. I'm glad you're on track to become an educator (PhD). Hopefully this will keep you out of the real world where you might do some damage. ;-) whatever!?!?! If you can be so aggressive on a mailing list then in the real world, you must be bullying people out there. So I think you're doing more damage than I do. :-) Didier -- PhD student Singapore Synchrotron Light Source (SSLS) 5 Research Link, Singapore 117603 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://ssls.nus.edu.sg -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Sweet Success
At 8/20/2003 16:17 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Linux-based office suites are adequate for my needs, but anyone who considers themselves an MS Office power-user will likely be sorely disappointed in the Linux alternatives. I disagree. I run financial models for a living, and do all of our customer correspondence (roughly 200 customers with frequent contact) via heavily-scripted mail merges. I most certainly consider myself a power user, and my demands on my office software are very heavy. I have been running Sun StarOffice 6.0 since it came out, and have had: * no tasks I could not perform * no crashes * a few tasks for which MS Office was significantly better * a few tasks for which StarOffice was significantly better * three patches to download * no security holes * quite speedy performance * excellent read/write of MS Office files (95/97/2000/XP) * native file sizes averaging 40% smaller than xls/doc/ppt * cost savings of nearly 80% ($75 vs $370) I am quite eagerly awaiting Sun StarOffice 6.1. Having tested and run SO-6.0 for maybe more than a year (don't recall exactly), when 6.1 comes out I will upgrade all 25 Windows machines in our offices to SO-6.1. The total savings in licenses alone will be over $7000, and I don't expect to need any outside support at all. Plus, those users who prefer Linux will now be able to run their preferred OS (saving me another $200 in OS license costs) with no file format incompatibility. While the gratis ($0 cost) office suites may have their rough edges, I think that's something you should expect from a project that large and that complex which is staffed only by volunteers. Shell out a little cash though (and I do mean a little), and the situation changes drastically. I buy subscriptions from Red Hat, and I buy StarOffice licenses from Sun. I am now able to buy new hardware more frequently, lower support costs, manage all machines centrally, increase security, lower risks of hacking (not eliminate, lower), and still save money on direct costs. Sorely disappointed in not moving to Sun StarOffice on Red Hat sooner, maybe... -- Rodolfo J. Paiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
parse errors
What do these parse errors mean, why am I getting these errors during a 'make'? Is my gcc broken? /usr/include/bits/pthreadtypes.h:48: parse error before `size_t' /usr/include/bits/pthreadtypes.h:48: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/bits/pthreadtypes.h:51: parse error before `__stacksize' /usr/include/bits/pthreadtypes.h:51: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/bits/pthreadtypes.h:52: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/time.h:179: parse error before `strftime' /usr/include/time.h:179: parse error before `size_t' /usr/include/time.h:181: warning: data definition has no type or storage classIn file included from /usr/include/sys/uio.h:29, from /usr/include/sys/socket.h:27, /usr/include/sys/socket.h: At top level: /usr/include/sys/socket.h:131: parse error before `size_t' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:136: parse error before `size_t' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:141: parse error before `size_t' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:149: parse error before `size_t' In file included from /usr/include/signal.h:322, from /usr/include/sys/wait.h:30, -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: compile errors, what am I missing?
I upgraded the kernel from 2.4.18 to 2.4.20-18.7. I used rpm's and everything appeared to go ok. However, whenever I attempt to compile (make) anything, I get these errors. Here I am attempting sslproxy, but it does not matter. Always pthreadtypes and time comes up. I compared these header files with others on my various 2.4.x systems and they appear to be in good shape. Can anyone point me in the right direction here, recompile kernel, missing files, more source needed, bad gcc? /usr/include/bits/pthreadtypes.h:48: parse error before `size_t' /usr/include/bits/pthreadtypes.h:48: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/bits/pthreadtypes.h:51: parse error before `__stacksize' /usr/include/bits/pthreadtypes.h:51: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/bits/pthreadtypes.h:52: warning: data definition has no type or storage class In file included from stdheaders.h:54, from sslproxy.c:14: /usr/include/time.h:179: parse error before `strftime' /usr/include/time.h:179: parse error before `size_t' /usr/include/time.h:181: warning: data definition has no type or storage classIn file included from /usr/include/sys/uio.h:29, from /usr/include/sys/socket.h:27, from stdheaders.h:55, from sslproxy.c:14: /usr/include/bits/uio.h:45: parse error before `size_t' /usr/include/bits/uio.h:45: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union In file included from /usr/include/sys/socket.h:35, from stdheaders.h:55, from sslproxy.c:14: /usr/include/bits/socket.h:232: parse error before `size_t' /usr/include/bits/socket.h:232: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union/usr/include/bits/socket.h:239: parse error before `}' /usr/include/bits/socket.h: In function `__cmsg_nxthdr': /usr/include/bits/socket.h:266: `size_t' undeclared (first use in this function)/usr/include/bits/socket.h:266: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/include/bits/socket.h:266: for each function it appears in.) /usr/include/bits/socket.h:266: parse error before `__cmsg' /usr/include/bits/socket.h:271: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/include/bits/socket.h:271: parse error before `~' /usr/include/bits/socket.h:271: parse error before `)' /usr/include/bits/socket.h:272: arithmetic on pointer to an incomplete type /usr/include/bits/socket.h:274: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/include/bits/socket.h:274: parse error before `~' /usr/include/bits/socket.h:275: parse error before `' In file included from stdheaders.h:55, from sslproxy.c:14: /usr/include/sys/socket.h: At top level: /usr/include/sys/socket.h:131: parse error before `size_t' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:136: parse error before `size_t' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:141: parse error before `size_t' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:149: parse error before `size_t' In file included from /usr/include/signal.h:322, from /usr/include/sys/wait.h:30, from stdheaders.h:59, from sslproxy.c:14: /usr/include/bits/sigstack.h:54: parse error before `size_t' /usr/include/bits/sigstack.h:54: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union/usr/include/bits/sigstack.h:55: warning: data definition has no type or storage class later, downsize -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list Not so sure this is related to your kernel upgrade. You don't mention what version of Redhat you are running but upgrading your glibc and glibc-devel packages might help. Regards, Sean Running rh7.2 (sorry left that out) and my glibc's I think are up2date pun showing (rpm -qa | grep -i glibc): glibc-devel-2.2.4-32 glibc-common-2.2.4-32 glibc-2.2.4-32 should I drop it down to 2.2.4-31 (that is on another rh72 box without compile errors such as these above)? thanks later, downsize -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Wireless
Hello All, I think You can help me in this. Is There a mailing list like Redhat-list for Wireless networking (802.11b, Wi-Fi) solutions etc ? Thanks a lot in advance. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Exchange server from pine
On 21 Aug 2003, John Rehmert wrote: On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 23:45, Didier Casse wrote: Excuse my french, but you're an idiot. It's attitudes like this that keep companies from releasing software for the Linux platform. Like it or not, there is a place for both free and proprietary software (unless you're RMS). Never forget, the GPL is all about free as in speech, not as in beer. You're not guaranteed anything for free (as in dollars). You're simply leeching on the hard work of others. Up to now, I've use 100% free software on Linux (Even my Linux was given to me freely!) and I do not have any complains to make. I've also contributed to code on Linux for various stuff and have offered it FREELY for the benefit of the community. Refresh my memory... Didn't you start this thread by COMPLAINING??? Was I? Learn to read English dude. Another one who can't be nice! I've personally paid for both the Codeweavers Plugin and Office products. Their stuff works great and their support is *excellent*. I only wish that all the other proprietary companies out there could support their stuff like Codeweavers does. Paying for that??!?! You're the one who's a total fool. It's ridiculous having to pay for that. And without adding to the fact that you're paying MS Office too!!! What the heck are you doing in this redhat list? You're on the wrong list pal. Codeweavers Crossover Office is not synonymous with Microsoft Office. Crossover Office is a highly customized implementation of wine and some of us (a lot of us, as a matter of fact) are still required by our employers to be able to run MS applications (i.e. Outlook, Word, Powerpoint, etc.) Plus, I haven't found a sufficient replacement for Macromedia Dreamweaver MX yet on Linux. So I'm using Crossover Office for that, as well. Outlook can be replaced by Ximian evolution and some nicely configured pine. Word by LaTeX or if you prefer you can use open office. Same goes for powerpoint. If you tell me that you use Codeweaver's wine for Dreamweaver MX, it's ok. I can understand that. But I simply do not want to pay for it! I would prefer installing Dreamweaver on a Windows platform. It's my own choice. Anyway I have all MS products free here in the University. This Uni pays Microsoft a hell lot of money each year to have their products. The whole computer system is Windoze driven. I'm one of the odd ones using Linux. So in my case it makes no sense paying for a codeweavers plugin. But I do like wine. Simply because a lot of people have put some effort in it and they're willing to give the source code away! That's a nice spirit. Which is not the same thing for Codeweavers! I like things/software made freely and for others to benefit from. Ok? Can't help it if you disagree with that! I like when it's a sharing environment and we all contribute towards something. Anyway I do not use MS Office cause it cranky. I use FREE LaTeX for typsetting which Knuth donated FREELY, and my own slidepro software for Presentations. As for the rest I've more efficient substitutes. This is the real Philosophy you stupid ass. You're hooked to MS products and your plugin that you bought is another way of showing that you can't use real pure LINUX software and that you still really on those weak software. More power to you, if you have the ability to completely get away from using MS products, but that doesn't mean that other people - who mainly use Linux w/ open source apps - are somehow impure. It's just simply that we have no choice, for one reason or another - whether it be an employer requirement, the lack of familiarity with open source equivalents, or that there are no compatible/suitable open source apps. I never disagreed with that. I have no choice too when I have to run AutoCAD. The functions I used in AutoCAD, well there are no substitutes in Linux. You can tell me why I don't use VariCAD, LinuxCAD, QCAD or whatever CAD. I've used them all but the functions I used, well only AutoCAD rocks! I'm forced to use it on Windows. Codeweavers plugin do not run AutoCAD 2002/3 also btw. If a Windows emulator is free i would like to have it. Like wine, I've the latest rpm on my box! If it's not free, then I might as well buy Windows in place of buying this since it would be able to run all the windoze apps. (doesn't mean that I'll buy Windows!) Let's face it, a Windows emulator will *always* at a every point of time be inferior to the current Windows and not be able to run all the growing apps in Windows. So that is why it does not make sense to buy the Codeweavers stuff. This is my sole opinion. There are also a lot of other people who share the same thoughts as I. If you want to disagree, you disagree respectfully. If someone is vegeterian, it's his own choice, you do not bully the poor guy and tell him that it's stupid not eating
Re: Sweet Success
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 03:41:42PM -0700, Cliff Wells wrote: [...] At one time we could boast that Linux could perform well on low-end hardware but such is no longer the case. Linux Likes RAM! As does any other OS out there. Sort of true. For a desktop, I think Linux is a bit hungrier than Windows. [...] I disagree. I still run Linux machines with GUI on 64MB and 48MB and the only Windows that could match the performance on those machines is Win95 and lower (even a fresh Win98 install started swapping wildly rather soon on those boxes). Linux gives me the choice to use a lean GUI that only provides the features I need. Windows does not give me that option and hence forces me to use bigger hardware for a desktop machine. IMO, if you want the same, bloated GUI feature set as you have in Windows, then yes, you might end up with higher memory use than Windows, as you have to use the likes of GNOME or KDE. On the other hand, if you need less options from a GUI, Linux (or in fact *any* *nix) gives you a lot more options than Windows does. Cheerio, Thomas -- == RH List Archive: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=redhat-listr=1w=2 == - Thomas Ribbrockhttp://www.ribbrock.org You have to live on the edge of reality - to make your dreams come true! -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
how to integrate user applications in to system commands
Hi, what is the way to integrate our executable application programs to OS. so that like regular OS commands our application also work. And how to write a man page and how to integrate it to system. So that man command will give our explanation about that command. Please,can any one tell this information.? Thank you all, Anil kumar. ___ Meet your old school or college friends from 1 Million + database... Click here to reunite www.batchmates.com/rediff.asp -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: That movie
This is a virus. Do not open the attachment. Norton picked it up on my windows box. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 August 2003 14:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: That movie See the attached file for details -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
kernel update and grub
hi! Just got word about the new kernel update, but when looking in my logs for the update, I just see an errormessage about not enough space on /boot. This most probably because I have been installing a couple of kernel updates automatically using up2date, and never deleted anything. I have redhat 7.3 and grub installed How do I (commandline) delete the old kernels from grub? - asbjørn -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: kernel version from command line?
Try uname -a from command line. -Sameer - Original Message - From: Redhat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 3:05 AM Subject: kernel version from command line? Also, how do I find out what kernel version is running from the command line? -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: kernel update and grub
Hello, Just got word about the new kernel update, but when looking in my logs for the update, I just see an errormessage about not enough space on /boot. This most probably because I have been installing a couple of kernel updates automatically using up2date, and never deleted anything. I have redhat 7.3 and grub installed How do I (commandline) delete the old kernels from grub? First I used rpm -e to remove the old kernel(s) but that caused some problems. So yust quick and dirty, I've removed all files (configkernel, initrdkernel, module-infokernel, System.mapkernel , Vmlinuxkernel, Vmlinuzkernel ) related to a specific kernel from /boot and removed the kernel entries from /boot/grub/grub.conf . Cheers, Andre -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: kernel update and grub
Andre ten Bohmer wrote: Hello, Just got word about the new kernel update, but when looking in my logs for the update, I just see an errormessage about not enough space on /boot. This most probably because I have been installing a couple of kernel updates automatically using up2date, and never deleted anything. I have redhat 7.3 and grub installed How do I (commandline) delete the old kernels from grub? First I used rpm -e to remove the old kernel(s) but that caused some problems. So yust quick and dirty, I've removed all files (configkernel, initrdkernel, module-infokernel, System.mapkernel , Vmlinuxkernel, Vmlinuzkernel ) related to a specific kernel from /boot and removed the kernel entries from /boot/grub/grub.conf . after editing grub.conf, is there any command needed to be fun in order to make grub understand that the config file is changed? I'm admining the rh box remotely and can't afford it to hang during boot. - asbjørn -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: kernel update and grub
Just got word about the new kernel update, but when looking in my logs for the update, I just see an errormessage about not enough space on /boot. This most probably because I have been installing a couple of kernel updates automatically using up2date, and never deleted anything. I have redhat 7.3 and grub installed How do I (commandline) delete the old kernels from grub? First I used rpm -e to remove the old kernel(s) but that caused some problems. So yust quick and dirty, I've removed all files (configkernel, initrdkernel, module-infokernel, System.mapkernel , Vmlinuxkernel, Vmlinuzkernel ) related to a specific kernel from /boot and removed the kernel entries from /boot/grub/grub.conf . after editing grub.conf, is there any command needed to be fun in order to make grub understand that the config file is changed? Not to my knowledge (after editing lilo.conf you need to run lilo thats for sure), but do check the default (0 is the first entry, 1 the second and so on) key in grub.conf is pointing to the kernel you want to use. I'm admining the rh box remotely and can't afford it to hang during boot. Check for self compiled kernel modules (RAID controller or NIC modules etc). Good luck. Cheers, Andre -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
URGENT! My RedHat 9.0 server will not boot anymore!
Hi, I tried to install a service using a wrapper script to run a java application in the background. It would appear that it doesn't run in the background so therefore when I boot linux now. It stops at this service. How can I rectify this? I've got GRUB bootloader and RH 9.0 installed. Thanks! Stuart -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Premature end of script
Hello, Since upgrading to RH 9.0, I have had a rash of previously running .cgi's getting Premature end script. Has anyone had these problems? Is there a problem with perl in RH 9.0? Openwebmail was one. It did this twice, but a re-install fixed it for now. Now its my counter, wwwcount. This is a compiled, perl binary. What can be cause all my perl scripts to crap out? TIA Palmetto Shopper http://www.palmettoshopper.com Serving all of South Carolina and beyond! Palmetto Politics http://www.palmettoshopper.com/politics/ -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Beta 10 Grub
I had just installed the Beta 10 (I have a set of partions that I experiment with) and everything went fine except for a couple of minor things. The first was at the end of the install it said click on the forward button instead of the NEXT button... (picky picky picky)... The next was a bit more of a problem. I have a Nvidia GeForce FX5200 and it so far hasn't liked that for X windows (have to use an old 8 mb ATI Rage card which works fine), but I have to search for drivers for the better card. I tend to use the old ATI card because my real work is under the 6.2 RH and I don't want to mess with updating the world (Have to use the old kernel for some work stuff). I am having a bit of trouble with GRUB. I have 2 RH, Win ME, and memtest86 setup on the GRUB menu. Grub has worked fine for this up till the Beta 10 install. I have two HDs, hda and hdb, hda has the WinME C partition and the 6.2 RH partition. The hdb has a Win partition and the Beta 10. The odd thing is that when I boot Grub says it can't find the image if I boot from the menu. If I type c, then the kernel and rootnoverify parameters that are in the grub.confg it works just fine. I have to manualy boot the 6.2 partition (which is on hda5 and is specified as hd0,4). The partition on hdb boots fine from the menu (the beta 10). Any ideas? The grub.conf is exactly what I type (kernel, rootnoverify, then boot), but from the menu the RH will not boot, the WinMe boots fine. Is there any known problems with booting off of a boot partition versus having the boot in the root partion? I have the boot on hdb in its own partition, but the boot where the kernel for 6.2 is in /boot in the root partition. There are no typos, I named my 6.2 kernel cdrom and type in kernel /boot/cdrom and rootnoverify (hd0,4) then boot which is exactly what is in the grub.conf. When I type in the kernel command it finds the image, from the menu it does not. Thanks apreston_at_comcast.net -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: That movie
ClamAV got it on my Linux box! :-) El Jue 21 Ago 2003 05:05, Stuart Stephen escribió: This is a virus. Do not open the attachment. Norton picked it up on my windows box. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 August 2003 14:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: That movie See the attached file for details -- Porqué usar una base de datos relacional cualquiera, si podés usar PostgreSQL? - Martín Marqués |[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programador, Administrador, DBA | Centro de Telematica Universidad Nacional del Litoral - -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: redhat-config-packages local filesystem source
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21 Aug 2003 00:13:26 -0400, Vincent E Parsons wrote: This is a two part question... 1. Does anyone know how to make redhat-config-packages look to the local filesystem for packages instead of the CD's? I tried to invoke the following command; redhat-config-packages --tree=/var/rh9 which fails. Not a valid source... That depends on what is contained within /var/rh9. You didn't tell us. 2. The answer to this question may also solve my first question; I copied all three CD's to /var/rh9 to be used for kickstart network installs and such.When copying files from the CD's to the local filesystem, is there anything one needs to be aware of, such as the TRANS.TBL entries? The README on the first CD explains the required structure of the tree. Whether or not you could simply make available the *.iso files, depends on what installation types you're going to try. - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/RLv70iMVcrivHFQRAsYqAJ9roznTdXPyAkf3hxGyMO4ZBd0BcACfTFrn 2XZme4nHw2ayQjw8HPUbDW4= =CvkY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: kernel update and grub
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 11:17:48 +0200, Asbjorn Hoiland Aarrestad wrote: Just got word about the new kernel update, but when looking in my logs for the update, I just see an errormessage about not enough space on /boot. This most probably because I have been installing a couple of kernel updates automatically using up2date, and never deleted anything. I have redhat 7.3 and grub installed How do I (commandline) delete the old kernels from grub? rpm --query 'kernel*' to list installed kernel packages. cat /proc/version to list the running kernel version. rpm --erase kernel-2.4.20-18.9 to uninstall an old kernel package including its GRUB entry. - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/RLxS0iMVcrivHFQRAhxXAJ0Trf14Z4sGUcNp7kzyoKFaamaWCQCeIuHo /L+TNwiFx0bRQ4CSwK6Q9eI= =kCn+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Premature end of script
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 06:26:24 -0400, Thomas E. Dukes wrote: Since upgrading to RH 9.0, I have had a rash of previously running .cgi's getting Premature end script. Has anyone had these problems? Is there a problem with perl in RH 9.0? Openwebmail was one. It did this twice, but a re-install fixed it for now. Now its my counter, wwwcount. This is a compiled, perl binary. What can be cause all my perl scripts to crap out? Difficult to say without prior investigation. Apache Manual FAQ covers premature end of script errors quite well. Worth reading. - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/RLy10iMVcrivHFQRAvQIAJ4/hv8l/Em1kJrNTCcj77M50mOfKACdEizZ iQiQn/64D1XUJUQQGXEAKIo= =MuOE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: That movie
Martin Marques wrote: ClamAV got it on my Linux box! :-) El Jue 21 Ago 2003 05:05, Stuart Stephen escribió: This is a virus. Do not open the attachment. Norton picked it up on my windows box. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 August 2003 14:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: That movie See the attached file for details -- Porqué usar una base de datos relacional cualquiera, si podés usar PostgreSQL? - Martín Marqués |[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programador, Administrador, DBA | Centro de Telematica Universidad Nacional del Litoral - Thank you God. This email was what got me flamed yesterday. As you can see, it's NOT coming from me. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Proftpd
Hi all, I've been used Proftpd, it's working fine, but can't transfer more than 2Gb files, why ?? Has anyone had these problems? Anyone have a solution ? -- Obrigado, Jorge Gossain Filho [EMAIL PROTECTED] L.U. #152312 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RPM for TIN newsreader
Hello All, I m looking for an RPM installtion of TIN newsreader. Does anyone know if it available ot the RHN? If not what is a good command line newsreader, that is available on RHN? Thanks Saqib Ali - http://www.xml-dev.com -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Proftpd
I've been used Proftpd, it's working fine, but can't transfer more than 2Gb files, why ?? Has anyone had these problems? Anyone have a solution ? Are you referring to a file larger than 2GB? Or the sum of multiple files that is greater than 2GB? Older Ext2 partitions on kernel 2.2 had a max file size limit of 2GB. --Matt -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
OCR Software
Any suggestions for RH9? -- Total Quality Management - A Commitment to Excellence Email acceptance policy: http://www.TQMcube.com/email_policy.html -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RPM for TIN newsreader
On 08/21/03 06:01 -0700, SAQIB wrote: If not what is a good command line newsreader, that is available on RHN? Have a look at Mutt. It's terrific. John -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RPM for TIN newsreader
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 09:28, John P Verel wrote: On 08/21/03 06:01 -0700, SAQIB wrote: If not what is a good command line newsreader, that is available on RHN? Have a look at Mutt. It's terrific. A guy I work with uses slrn religiously. -- Jason Dixon, RHCE DixonGroup Consulting http://www.dixongroup.net -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RPM for TIN newsreader
On 08/21/03 09:31 -0400, Jason Dixon wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 09:28, John P Verel wrote: Have a look at Mutt. It's terrific. Oops. Sorry, I misread and thought mail reader blush I agree that slrn is a great choice. John -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: kernel update and grub
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Asbjorn Hoiland Aarrestad Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 4:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: kernel update and grub hi! Just got word about the new kernel update, but when looking in my logs for the update, I just see an errormessage about not enough space on /boot. This most probably because I have been installing a couple of kernel updates automatically using up2date, and never deleted anything. I have redhat 7.3 and grub installed How do I (commandline) delete the old kernels from grub? - asbjørn -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list You need to delete the old kernels from /boot. You can also delete them from /usr/src. 1) Look at the grub.conf file in /etc. The directory is in /boot (you can go there) also. The symbolic link to the file is in /etc. Determine which kernels you want to delete. Delete them from grub.conf and from /boot. Remember to look at the default pointer and update it to the new default in grub.conf. You can also go to /usr/src and delete the old kernel directories. Be sure and make yourself a boot floppy in case you make a mistake. Good luck -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
/var/log/lastlog -- why is it 19 megabytes?
Can anyone explain why my /var/log/lastlog is 19 megabytes? Here is the output from the lastlog command: Username Port From Latest root tty2 Wed Aug 20 16:27:44 -0500 2003 bin**Never logged in** daemon **Never logged in** adm**Never logged in** lp **Never logged in** sync **Never logged in** shutdown **Never logged in** halt **Never logged in** mail **Never logged in** news **Never logged in** uucp **Never logged in** operator **Never logged in** games **Never logged in** gopher **Never logged in** ftp**Never logged in** nobody **Never logged in** rpm**Never logged in** vcsa **Never logged in** nscd **Never logged in** sshd **Never logged in** rpc**Never logged in** rpcuser**Never logged in** nfsnobody **Never logged in** mailnull **Never logged in** smmsp **Never logged in** pcap **Never logged in** apache **Never logged in** squid **Never logged in** webalizer **Never logged in** xfs**Never logged in** named **Never logged in** ntp**Never logged in** gdm**Never logged in** mysql **Never logged in** postgres **Never logged in** desktop**Never logged in** robert :0Wed Aug 20 19:39:17 -0500 2003 nut**Never logged in** Also lastlog is not rotated by logrotate. Is there a reason for that? I found a changelog for logrotate with the comment: * Thu Feb 24 2000 Erik Troan [EMAIL PROTECTED] - don't rotate lastlog But this doesn't say why. Couldn't find any relevant comments in the source code either. -- Robert C. Paulsen, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
SCO and the FTC
This is an email that was sent to another list I was on. Basically, you can call the FTC as described below and submit a complaint against SCO. If they get enough, they're likely to open an investigation against them. It took me all of 3 minutes to complete the call. Let's show SCO that their behavior is unacceptable! -J. -Forwarded Message- Subject: [staph] SCO and the FTC Date: 21 Aug 2003 09:44:59 -0400 [From a Slashdot posting] I just got off the phone with the FTC. If everyone calls and complains then the chances they will investigate SCO goes up. They look for patterns. In other words, if the majority of their calls are about SCO then they will investigate. It is time to take the Slashdot effect to the phones. These are the key points to make: -You did not purchase software from SCO -The company that produced your software did not purchase it from SCO -It was not marketed or packaged by SCO -Despite this SCO is asking for $199 from home users (You) and $699 from business for 1 CPU They will ask for your name, phone number, address etc. That is mostly to verify your identity and citizenship I think. Here is the number: 1-877-382-4357 option 4 They are nice and listen well. The lady I talked to even took the time to get a better understanding of what Linux is. The best quote from her You didn't purchase it from them and they want you to pay them? That sounds crazy. -- Call FTC 1-877-382-4357 opt 4 -You didn't buy from SCO -Vendor didn't either -They want $199 ... Here's some information that may help. They actually asked for this info: The SCO Group 355 South 520 West Suite 100 Lindon, Utah 84042 801-765-4999 phone The guy I spoke with was actually somewhat familiar with what Linux is. One of his first questions was how this company got involved with me, which my answer was Well, that's the problem. They didn't. He eventually asked if SCO has contacted me personally with regard to this situation, which they have not. Don't lie to them. Be completely truthful. At the end of the call I got a reference number, and he said that if SCO does contact me personally, I should call back and let them know. It was very easy to do, and took about 5 minutes of my time. The recording while I wated for the counselor to pick up the phone did say that the FTC does track trends in complaints. If we get enough people to complain, something will happen. Please, take a few minutes and call! -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Paying for good quality software on Linux
Just because you don't want to pay for it, somebody else might want to. I bought Crossover Office and I love it. I'd rather use OpenOffice, but the filters aren't good enough for me. But for the rest of my software, I prefer Linux. What's your problem? Didier Casse wrote: But codeweavers plugin, NO WAY! Firstly because it's a plain excuse for running MS products (mainly MS Office!) which I do not like in the first place. Let's face it, people buy this plugin so that they can use MS Word and Powerpoint! There are better software out there like I mentionned earlier. Man if somebody can't get rid of Microsoft, then use Windows. Dont use Linux and fool try to fool everybody with your MS office programs running on a Windows emulator! -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RPM for TIN newsreader
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 06:01:55 -0700 (PDT), SAQIB wrote: Hello All, I m looking for an RPM installtion of TIN newsreader. Does anyone know if it available ot the RHN? Fedora Linux has one in the repository, unstable directory I think. http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache:www.fedora.us/wiki/FedoraMirrorList+fedora+mirror+list - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/RNMk0iMVcrivHFQRAoetAJsGYAl+0jRwc9nluKCmg6Jwkz4wFwCeOmPC CFF6HPuKUni4X/6Ts6Zixt0= =Vf1d -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Problem with php-4.3.2-7 when loading extensions (used as apachemodule)
When I try to load the ldap.so and mysql.so extensions I get the following error in the apache error log: -- PHP Warning: Unknown(): Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php4/ldap.so' - /usr/lib/php4/ldap.so: undefined symbol: OnUpdateInt in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Unknown(): Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php4/mysql.so' - /usr/lib/php4/mysql.so: undefined symbol: OnUpdateInt in Unknown on line 0 -- When I use the cli version directly from the console the extensions work. I have seen a similar post in the archives but have seen no solution till now. Is this a package problem caused by redhat or have I done some mistake? Please don´t reply with don´t use rawhide ... I need the tokenizer in the new php so there is no way around rawhide. I use the following packages: -- httpd-2.0.47-4 php-4.3.2-7 php-ldap-4.3.2-7 php-mysql-4.3.2-7 mysql-server-3.23.57-1 mysql-3.23.57-1 -- -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: update problem
I just updated my kernel and can no longer ssh into the machine from outside the machine. however I can ssh out directly from this machine to other machines. I also tried the old kernel but it still doesn't work. Any ideas? Outgoing ssh is the ssh client, incoming ssh is handled by the sshd daemon. The first thing I would do is check that it is running: ps -axc | grep sshd If it doesn't show up, try starting it: /etc/init.d/sshd start If it is up, then it may be that your update changed your firewall rules in some mysterious way. I would then check to see if your firewall is blocking incoming ssh traffic: iptables -L Try this stuff and let us know what happens. Ben -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Proftpd
Sorry, I'm referring to file larger than 2GB, thanks for your information. On Thursday 21 August 2003 13:23, Matt Rowley wrote: I've been used Proftpd, it's working fine, but can't transfer more than 2Gb files, why ?? Has anyone had these problems? Anyone have a solution ? Are you referring to a file larger than 2GB? Or the sum of multiple files that is greater than 2GB? Older Ext2 partitions on kernel 2.2 had a max file size limit of 2GB. --Matt -- Obrigado, Jorge Gossain Filho [EMAIL PROTECTED] L.U. #152312 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: kernel update and grub
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 08:54:09AM -0500, Otto Haliburton wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Asbjorn Hoiland Aarrestad Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 4:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: kernel update and grub hi! Just got word about the new kernel update, but when looking in my logs for the update, I just see an errormessage about not enough space on /boot. This most probably because I have been installing a couple of kernel updates automatically using up2date, and never deleted anything. I have redhat 7.3 and grub installed How do I (commandline) delete the old kernels from grub? - asbj?rn -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list You need to delete the old kernels from /boot. You can also delete them from /usr/src. 1) Look at the grub.conf file in /etc. The directory is in /boot (you can go there) also. The symbolic link to the file is in /etc. Determine which kernels you want to delete. Delete them from grub.conf and from /boot. Remember to look at the default pointer and update it to the new default in grub.conf. You can also go to /usr/src and delete the old kernel directories. Be sure and make yourself a boot floppy in case you make a mistake. Good luck A safer method is to delete the old kernels via rpm. For example my system shows: rpm -qa | grep kernel kernel-pcmcia-cs-3.1.31-13 kernel-source-2.4.20-20.9 kernel-2.4.20-19.9 kernel-2.4.20-20.9 There is one old kernel still installed: kernel-2.4.20-19.9. To delete it I would run: rpm -e kernel-2.4.20-19.9 I generally keep one back-level kernel just in case; thus the output above. It appears that when kernel source is installed the older version is removed. I am not sure why, but although I have never deleted any only the latest one ever shows up. -- Robert C. Paulsen, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: SCO and the FTC
Someone informed me that you can submit your complaint online: http://www.ftc.gov/ftc/consumer.htm -J. On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 10:08, Jason Dixon wrote: This is an email that was sent to another list I was on. Basically, you can call the FTC as described below and submit a complaint against SCO. If they get enough, they're likely to open an investigation against them. It took me all of 3 minutes to complete the call. Let's show SCO that their behavior is unacceptable! -J. -Forwarded Message- Subject: [staph] SCO and the FTC Date: 21 Aug 2003 09:44:59 -0400 [From a Slashdot posting] I just got off the phone with the FTC. If everyone calls and complains then the chances they will investigate SCO goes up. They look for patterns. In other words, if the majority of their calls are about SCO then they will investigate. It is time to take the Slashdot effect to the phones. These are the key points to make: -You did not purchase software from SCO -The company that produced your software did not purchase it from SCO -It was not marketed or packaged by SCO -Despite this SCO is asking for $199 from home users (You) and $699 from business for 1 CPU They will ask for your name, phone number, address etc. That is mostly to verify your identity and citizenship I think. Here is the number: 1-877-382-4357 option 4 They are nice and listen well. The lady I talked to even took the time to get a better understanding of what Linux is. The best quote from her You didn't purchase it from them and they want you to pay them? That sounds crazy. -- Call FTC 1-877-382-4357 opt 4 -You didn't buy from SCO -Vendor didn't either -They want $199 ... Here's some information that may help. They actually asked for this info: The SCO Group 355 South 520 West Suite 100 Lindon, Utah 84042 801-765-4999 phone The guy I spoke with was actually somewhat familiar with what Linux is. One of his first questions was how this company got involved with me, which my answer was Well, that's the problem. They didn't. He eventually asked if SCO has contacted me personally with regard to this situation, which they have not. Don't lie to them. Be completely truthful. At the end of the call I got a reference number, and he said that if SCO does contact me personally, I should call back and let them know. It was very easy to do, and took about 5 minutes of my time. The recording while I wated for the counselor to pick up the phone did say that the FTC does track trends in complaints. If we get enough people to complain, something will happen. Please, take a few minutes and call! -- Jason Dixon, RHCE DixonGroup Consulting http://www.dixongroup.net -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RHCE and the bottom line?
In another thread, Jason Dixon mentioned: Well, I could. But you can't afford me. :) That got me to wondering... Jason, did you see a definite change in your income when you got the RHCE? I've been studying for the LPI Linux certification (http://www.lpi.org/en/lpic.html), on the assumption that while I love RedHat, as a CERT team member for our local National Guard, I should be conversant with multiple versions of the OS. However, I'm always interested in the results on the bottom line that investing in a certification will have. For instance, when I finally got my Certified Novell Engineer way back, it didn't do much for my wallet. Just curious... Ben -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
VPN Software
Hi... A quick (or not) question about VPN software. Does anyone have any recommendations for good/solid/secure Open Source VPN software that you've actually installed/used or been exposed to!!! We're looking at VPN as a secure way to get back to our network, but we're curious as to what's out there that people have really used. We'd like to let our users set up a connection with the network and be able to access whatever information they require from the network Google brings up some, but here again, we'd like to get comments from some people as to what you're used/seen. Thanks for any help/assistance/pointers with this issue Regards, Bruce Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] (925) 866-2790 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: VPN Software
POPTOP pptp works great -Original Message- From: bruce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: VPN Software Hi... A quick (or not) question about VPN software. Does anyone have any recommendations for good/solid/secure Open Source VPN software that you've actually installed/used or been exposed to!!! We're looking at VPN as a secure way to get back to our network, but we're curious as to what's out there that people have really used. We'd like to let our users set up a connection with the network and be able to access whatever information they require from the network Google brings up some, but here again, we'd like to get comments from some people as to what you're used/seen. Thanks for any help/assistance/pointers with this issue Regards, Bruce Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] (925) 866-2790 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Compaq Presario 715EA
Hi, I found some problems while config. the RH9.0 in my notebook. For instance, the monitor type was not detected and I can't find the correct configuration. The resolution is set for 800x600, 24 bits, but if I try to change to 1024x???, everything keep as before, 800x600. Despite the 24 bits, the leters and images does not appear very clear. And for last, I can't use the batery longer than 5 minutes. In the windows systems I use it for at least 90 minutes. Does anyone have this notebook model or know how to solve this problems? Thanks -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: VPN Software
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 10:55, bruce wrote: Hi... A quick (or not) question about VPN software. Does anyone have any recommendations for good/solid/secure Open Source VPN software that you've actually installed/used or been exposed to!!! On Linux, I've used FreeSWAN. More commonly, I use OpenBSD's IPsec with isakmpd (KAME). This is usually because I'm going to install a VPN endpoint on a firewall, and the OpenBSD PF firewall code is much simpler to work with. But I do use FreeSWAN on all my Linux clients. Userland, I've heard good things about the OpenVPN project. It supports multiple platforms, but I haven't gotten around to trying it yet. They claim to support NAT-T, so it sounds like a nice alternative. I've also heard that the 2.6 security enhancements will make using IPsec much easier than the current FreeSWAN patch requirements. As far as Windows clients go, I prefer SSH Sentinel. Very easy to setup, nice to administer and track network usage. Unfortunately, they've recently stopped selling it retail and now only offer it through resellers/rebranding. Softnet's Soft-PK is supposed to work nicely on Windows and comply with the open source IPsec implementations, but I haven't tried it yet. HTH. -- Jason Dixon, RHCE DixonGroup Consulting http://www.dixongroup.net -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RHCE and the bottom line?
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 10:47, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote: In another thread, Jason Dixon mentioned: Well, I could. But you can't afford me. :) That got me to wondering... Jason, did you see a definite change in your income when you got the RHCE? Yes and sorta. Yes, it allows me to charge a premium for Linux-specific consulting services. Sorta, in that full-time contracts are more apt to consider me for higher-paying jobs. It's definitely not a waste of time and/or investment. Folks in the know tend to treat the RHCE similar to a CCIE, in terms of realizing that real skills and experience go into earning this distinction. It's definitely not a book test. I've been studying for the LPI Linux certification (http://www.lpi.org/en/lpic.html), on the assumption that while I love RedHat, as a CERT team member for our local National Guard, I should be conversant with multiple versions of the OS. However, I'm always interested in the results on the bottom line that investing in a certification will have. For instance, when I finally got my Certified Novell Engineer way back, it didn't do much for my wallet. Honestly, I really didn't plan on going for the RHCE until my primary employer offered to pay for it. Like a lot of industry folks, certificates are viewed as nice to have, but will only get you so far (although some carry more weight than others). The RHCE is one of those certs where nobody I've met disregards as a paper tiger. Not to disrespect any MCSE's, but I *have* met folks who look down their noses on the MCSE cert. This is not to say that there aren't a lot of MCSE's that are incredibly good at what they do and earn their salary, but there are also a ton of them that just took the test to break into the dot bomb era. We all know the type. HTH. -- Jason Dixon, RHCE DixonGroup Consulting http://www.dixongroup.net -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: VPN Software
Thanks... But have you actually used it/experience with it..? Are there any issues with i tthat you've noticed/etc? -Bruce -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jason Staudenmayer Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 7:52 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: VPN Software POPTOP pptp works great -Original Message- From: bruce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: VPN Software Hi... A quick (or not) question about VPN software. Does anyone have any recommendations for good/solid/secure Open Source VPN software that you've actually installed/used or been exposed to!!! We're looking at VPN as a secure way to get back to our network, but we're curious as to what's out there that people have really used. We'd like to let our users set up a connection with the network and be able to access whatever information they require from the network Google brings up some, but here again, we'd like to get comments from some people as to what you're used/seen. Thanks for any help/assistance/pointers with this issue Regards, Bruce Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] (925) 866-2790 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: /var/log/lastlog -- why is it 19 megabytes?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 08:57:18 -0500, Robert C. Paulsen Jr. wrote: Can anyone explain why my /var/log/lastlog is 19 megabytes? It isn't. It just contains sparse blocks. See: du -h /var/log/lastlog - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/ROBt0iMVcrivHFQRAo16AJ0ZfWeuiVO2bI6j6juol2zFNWuvuQCdEOdO 9nOQkbGrnZuyGDHIfSahgMY= =B8YX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: VPN Software
I have been using it for over two years and no major issue yet. Setup was good that the windows clients all come with the VPN client so there's no extra cost. I wouldn't try using it to link to networks together just client access. If your looking for network linking then you want Ipsec which I haven't used yet. -Original Message- From: bruce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 11:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: VPN Software Thanks... But have you actually used it/experience with it..? Are there any issues with i tthat you've noticed/etc? -Bruce -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jason Staudenmayer Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 7:52 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: VPN Software POPTOP pptp works great -Original Message- From: bruce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: VPN Software Hi... A quick (or not) question about VPN software. Does anyone have any recommendations for good/solid/secure Open Source VPN software that you've actually installed/used or been exposed to!!! We're looking at VPN as a secure way to get back to our network, but we're curious as to what's out there that people have really used. We'd like to let our users set up a connection with the network and be able to access whatever information they require from the network Google brings up some, but here again, we'd like to get comments from some people as to what you're used/seen. Thanks for any help/assistance/pointers with this issue Regards, Bruce Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] (925) 866-2790 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: kickstart and firewalls
I tried your line Mr. Dixon, but to no avail. It only opened holes for dhcp and ssh. Thank you for suggesting it though (I appreciate your time). The kickstart file I started with was generated by the installer after a manual install and placed in /root/anaconda-ks.cfg. There seems to be a discrepancy with the description in the customization guide and the kickstart file actually created by the installer. This is the original line- firewall --medium --dhcp --port=sunrpc:tcp --port=X11:tcp --port=sunrpc:tcp --port=X11:tcp --port=ssh:tcp I don't understand- *why sunrpc and X11 are listed twice *why they aren't comma separated like the documentation says they should be *why a hole does open for ssh when put in that format and NOT for sunrpc or X11 i suppose i could either disable the firewall or script some new iptables rules in the %post section. if anyone knows how to make this work though, i'd much like to hear it... thanks, jurvis lasalle On Wednesday, Aug 20, 2003, at 20:31 America/New_York, Jason Dixon wrote: On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 17:42, jurvis lasalle wrote: i'm kickstarting some computers and need to open up ports 111 and 6000 for NIS and x11. i have this line in my kickstart file: firewall --medium --dhcp --port=111:tcp --port=6000:tcp --port=ssh:tcp this does open holes for dhcp and ssh, but not NIS or x11. i have replaced the 111 with sunrpc and 6000 with x11, but that doesn't work either. any clues...? You only want to use the --port option once. Separate port:protocol combinations with commas. The following should work for you: firewall --medium --dhcp --ssh --port=111:tcp,6000:tcp Lots of good stuff here: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/custom-guide/s1- kickstart2-options.html -- Jason Dixon, RHCE DixonGroup Consulting http://www.dixongroup.net -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Problems with Wireless pcmcia card
On 20 Aug, Jason Dixon wrote: Once you download/build them, simply install the kernel-wlan-ng, kernel-wlan-ng-pcmcia, and kernel-wlan-ng-modules packages. Reboot, and you should be good to go. You might want to edit the /etc/wlan/wlan.conf to suit your needs, although I've found it can auto-join to many IBSS (no WEP enabled) networks. Tks for this. I am having some problems still though. I have the following kernel rpms installed on RH Linux 8 kernel-wlan-ng-modules-rh80.20.18-0.2.0-7 kernel-utils-2.4-8.13 kernel-pcmcia-cs-3.1.31-9 kernel-2.4.20-18.8 kernel-wlan-ng-pcmcia-0.2.0-7 kernel-wlan-ng-0.2.0-7 When I grep for cardmgr in /var/log/messages, I get Aug 22 00:07:16 bree pcmcia: cardmgr. Aug 22 00:07:17 bree cardmgr[759]: starting, version is 3.1.31 Aug 22 00:07:17 bree cardmgr[759]: config error, file 'config' line 1053: syntax error Aug 22 00:07:17 bree cardmgr[759]: config error, file 'config' line 2129: no function bindings Aug 22 00:07:17 bree cardmgr[759]: watching 2 sockets Aug 22 00:07:17 bree cardmgr[759]: Card Services release does not match The two lines causing problems are card 11 Mbps Wireless PC Card 1053 manfid: 0x028a, 0x0002 bind orinoco_cs and 2129card Zonet ZEN1200 CardBus Fast Ethernet PC Card manfid 0x, 0x024C bind 8139too but I have the feeling that the real problem is the 'card services release does not match' issue. Unfortunatley, I am no hardware guru and I have no idea what this means. I also get during the boot, sometimes, the message 'can't locatate block-major-2' ... but this happens only intermittently. I rather think that this may be the cause of another problem I am having - that of serious instability with my mouse in X windows. Sometimes it locks up completely and other times the left button seems not to work. When it locks in X, it also stops working on the console...and stopping and restarting gpm does not revive it. Looking at /proc/interrupts shows CPU0 0:1500112 XT-PIC timer 1: 6697 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 5: 102120 XT-PIC usb-ohci, eth0 8: 1 XT-PIC rtc 9: 23 XT-PIC ehci-hcd, EMU10K1 10: 5444 XT-PIC advansys, usb-ohci, usb-uhci, usb-uhci 11: 1 XT-PIC ohci1394 12: 89382 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse 14: 20604 XT-PIC ide0 15: 4150 XT-PIC ide1 which looks fine though. This is a brand new Toshiba Tecra S1 laptop and the mouse works just fine in 'that other OS'... -- Robert Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Strategic IT open source consulting+61 (0)438 385 533 Brisbane, Australia http://www.interweft.com.au -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Sweet Success
Apparently I'm not doing very well at explaining that there's more to TCO than the face value of the desktop products. Let's continue to assume that I prefer Windows to anything else (1): If : -- you work in a Windows-centric organization, and -- your skill set is Windows-centric, and -- the skill set of your internal resource pool is Window-centric Then: -- it will likely cost your organization MORE to move an alternative OS. You're right - maintenance, training and upgrades are requirements of any OS and each carries a price tag. If they're considering a change to another OS a sys admin must determine whether those associated costs are justifiable and reasonable, given the pool of resources that they can draw upon. Flexibility can be good thing, or it can be a bad thing, depending on the situation. From a geek point of view, I don't mind getting in and tinkering with internals, just to see what happens. From an admin point of view, I want a box out there that my users can't change. When they make a change and it screws up the computer, it costs my company money for me to fix it (whether I fix it myself, or hire someone else to do it for me). Some would fire the user, but guess what - it costs money to replace them, too.(2) Stability - goes without saying. Security - absolutely. If that is the admin's number one question, then neither Linux (today) nor Windows may be the answer. A better alternative for them may be the iSeries which has had object level security for years, tied in with incremental security levels, at the OS level (maybe at the microcode level, I'm not sure). It all depends on the resource available, and whether the admin can justify the associated costs. Patches - I don't how many I've installed for any of my systems. A LOT. I check for them in all my OS environments regularly (Windows, Linux, and iSeries). In Windows, I run the Windows Update daily. In Linux, I run 'up2date' and Red Carpet daily. In iSeries, I order the latest cume PTF quarterly if it includes patches for the software on my system (it almost always does) (3). Allow me to summarize the whole point of all my posts on this matter: While it may well be initially less expensive to install a Linux-based computer than a Windows-based computer, there are hidden costs associated with that Linux system which many adherents tend to gloss over (if they ever mention them at all). Those hidden costs need to be evaluated BEFORE the computer is installed. In a Windows-centric enterprise where there is insufficient Linux-knowledgeable resource, it makes little economic sense to do that. The same holds true in a Linux-centric enterprise; it makes little economic sense to start installing Windows-based computers if there is insufficient internal resource to properly manage them (or the willingness to acquire the necessary resources). Tom Hightower Solutions, Inc http://www.simas.com (1) Not true. Personally, I think that IBM's iSeries line is hands-down the best server system on the planet. But that's a topic for another mailing list, unless we choose to discuss how it can run multiple copies of Linux simultaneously, along with Windows Server, AIX, and OS/400. (2) For users who roam where they shouldn't - I have some really scary You deleted the OS! Press enter to reload from Backup screens that I can run in their login script. They only have to see those bad boys once to get the idea. (3) Actually, I have a scheduled job that orders it for me. If the patch is way big, they send it on CD (which I prefer anyway). I review the documentation, and then decide whether or not to install the PTF. -- Tom Eduardo A. dela Rosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/20/2003 07:38 PM Please respond to redhat-list To: RedHat List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Sweet Success Dear Tom, A simple response: Maintenance, training, and upgrades, needless to say, are factors both present whether you've got Linux box or MS Products. Got the picture? Nope? It's the CO$T of Ownership having MS Products that counts. Another great difference and advantage that Linux box can have over MS Products are flexibility, stability, and SECURITY (among others) that MS cannot meet at par with Linux. How many times in a year that you need to patch your MS Boxes with Bill-provided patch upgrades so that even your most latest Win2K would not be exploited by worms? It's for wise people like you to evaluate these facts. Cheers! On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 21:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me say upfront that I like Linux in general, and RedHat in particular. And (heresy!) I like MS products. 2 questions: -- what about the architectural/accounting package? -- who will maintain the OS and other various software updates? As far as dependability - when properly configured and used as intended, MS Servers are _very_ reliable. Cases
RE: kernel update and grub
I have never had a kernel source to be deleted by a new install. If that is so then why have you sent this email. You should not have a space problem in that case. Look at the directories I referred and see if the old source is there. If it is not then you don't have a problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert C. Paulsen Jr. Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: kernel update and grub On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 08:54:09AM -0500, Otto Haliburton wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Asbjorn Hoiland Aarrestad Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 4:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: kernel update and grub hi! Just got word about the new kernel update, but when looking in my logs for the update, I just see an errormessage about not enough space on /boot. This most probably because I have been installing a couple of kernel updates automatically using up2date, and never deleted anything. I have redhat 7.3 and grub installed How do I (commandline) delete the old kernels from grub? - asbj?rn -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list You need to delete the old kernels from /boot. You can also delete them from /usr/src. 1) Look at the grub.conf file in /etc. The directory is in /boot (you can go there) also. The symbolic link to the file is in /etc. Determine which kernels you want to delete. Delete them from grub.conf and from /boot. Remember to look at the default pointer and update it to the new default in grub.conf. You can also go to /usr/src and delete the old kernel directories. Be sure and make yourself a boot floppy in case you make a mistake. Good luck A safer method is to delete the old kernels via rpm. For example my system shows: rpm -qa | grep kernel kernel-pcmcia-cs-3.1.31-13 kernel-source-2.4.20-20.9 kernel-2.4.20-19.9 kernel-2.4.20-20.9 There is one old kernel still installed: kernel-2.4.20-19.9. To delete it I would run: rpm -e kernel-2.4.20-19.9 I generally keep one back-level kernel just in case; thus the output above. It appears that when kernel source is installed the older version is removed. I am not sure why, but although I have never deleted any only the latest one ever shows up. -- Robert C. Paulsen, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Exchange server from pine
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 02:16:28PM +0800, Didier Casse wrote: [Snip] If you can't be nice to me, why should I be too you? [Snip] If my dog shits in the middle of tiliving he room should I do likewise? :) Cheers, -- Javier Gostling D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Exchange server from pine
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, August 21, 2003, 1:56:51 AM, Didier wrote: software I would not buy for Linux because the initial spirit of Linux was to be an OPEN SOURCE system. This is MY CHOICE. I know this is not yours That's fine. Very nice. I would rather see Linux become a platform that grows beyond the limited sphere you prefer. Sure, if you can convince someone to write the quality applications you need for you, and then give them away for no cost and open source, that's wonderful. However, it would be nice to be able to get the quality applications *some other way*, if you can't find a philanthropic developer. If you say that you will refuse, up front, to purchase any software for Linux, and the development community that needs to make money through their programming efforts believes that you represent a large percentage of what they thought was their market, they will go and do something else to put food on their table. Maybe they will develop for Windows. You wind up with software that is useful to a lot of people, and interesting to work on for the developers. But, you do not necessarily wind up with the software that you need to get the job done. Capitalism does have its uses. I would much rather pay someone for the tools I need that are not otherwise available, than pay money for another computer; pay money to Microsoft for yet another Windows license; pay time to install, configure, and maintain it; pay space to have a second computer sitting on my desk; pay time to deal with cross-platform tooling (editors, version control, etc.) issues; and a host of other things. Ron. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.5.8 Comment: Until recently, the last PGP with full source disclosure. iQA/AwUBP0TpZ28pw+2/9pUJEQLjOwCg04hs59T0GoAY/d//GzCbkvd0CfoAoNP5 0AxqVH5akDXCP/R5U9w7ftjW =le9Z -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Exchange server from pine
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, August 21, 2003, 1:16:28 AM, Didier wrote: [Jason] called me an idiot. You're right. He used the wrong word. He should have used naive. We don't really have any evidence as to your intelligence. Ron. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.5.8 Comment: Until recently, the last PGP with full source disclosure. iQA/AwUBP0TqTG8pw+2/9pUJEQLM/wCg6ZKMWXBl4YfcEeBvFTdOhBkI+GUAoJAN goR+FlggKzE/XCS63pkIvWcl =v3+D -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Sweet Success
While it may well be initially less expensive to install a Linux-based computer than a Windows-based computer, there are hidden costs associated with that Linux system which many adherents tend to gloss over (if they ever mention them at all). Those hidden costs need to be evaluated BEFORE the computer is installed. In a Windows-centric enterprise where there is insufficient Linux-knowledgeable resource, it makes little economic sense to do that. The same holds true in a Linux-centric enterprise; it makes little economic sense to start installing Windows-based computers if there is insufficient internal resource to properly manage them (or the willingness to acquire the necessary resources). Tom, In my experience the TCO argument you've articulated is used mostly as FUD by people with a vested interest in the status quo. I've seen vendor after vendor try to keep Linux competition out of larger enterprises with these arguments. I've yet to see _any_ case where a Linux solution had _significant_ extra operational costs. While there is some basis for these well known arguments their applicability is surly diminishing as Linux becomes more mainstream. Regards, Sean -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: OCR Software
Any suggestions for RH9? There's the GOCR project, and KDE has a program called Kooka that will use GOCR for OCR'ing text. http://gocr.sourceforge.net --Brian -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Vacation Sendmail RH9
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Michael Fratoni wrote: snip... It seems to work here on my system. (I maintain a vacation rpm that works with smrsh.) http://www.tuxfan.homeip.net:8080/rpms/vacation-1.2.6-1.i386.rpm I installed the package, and then logged in as a user. (The /etc/smrsh link is created by the package when installed) I ran vacation without options, which creates .forward and allows you to edit .vacation.msg. (Exit the editor (vi by default) with :q) Then run vacation -I Mail sent to the user gets a vacation message in reply. Hope that helps, - -- - -Michael Michael, I just tried this on a Redhat 9 box and it worked perfectly. However, I noticed in the man pages that a list of senders is kept in the .vacation.db file. How do you read this file? I tried using vi but that didn't work. -- Gerry The lyfe so short, the craft so long to learne Chaucer -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: removing old kernals?
The question of whether it's wise to keep old kernels is a cost/benefit issue. The answer may well vary from user to user. What's more serious, consumption of available memory by multiple kernels, or loss of functionality due to OS failure? In my case, the consequences of an OS failure _far_ exceeds consequences of running out of memory. Even though I've never had a problem with an RH upgrade, I still keep the previous kernel just in case. To me, this falls into the same category of backing up your data. You don't have to, but not having backups can cause heartache. I've had two backups, saved on different media, verified when created, both be corrupt. You can hardly be too careful! On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 16:08, Anand Buddhdev wrote: Redhat writes: When I upgrade the kernal and reboot there is a screen that lists the kernals on my machine, the top one being the new one. Should I delete the other kernels? If so how do I do this? You can see your currently installed kernel(s) with: rpm -q kernel This will list one or more kernels, for exmaple: kernel-2.4.19-8.9 kernel-2.4.20-19.9 So if you are now running 2.4.20 after an update, and you want to remove the older 2.4.19, just run the following as root: rpm -e kernel-2.4.19-8.9 It is important to specify the version and build numbers fully, so that you remove the older kernel, instead of the current one. Some people might tell you that you should keep at least one older kernel on the system, in case something is wrong with you current one, and you need the older one to fall back on. In my personal experience though, I've never had trouble with a newer kernel from RedHat, so I usually remove the older kernels and only keep one on my system. -- Anand Buddhdev -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Apache + Tomcat with mod_jk on RH 9.0
Not with Apache 2.x but with 1.3.27 I've been able to make it work fine with RedHat 7, 8, and 9. Setting up mod_jk was tricky If I recall correctly. But after doing it a few times it becomes much clearer how the pieces fit in. I also am using the autoconfig option of Tomcat which worked great! First of all, I strongly recommend the new Tomcat book by Oreilly. Everything I needed to set it up was in there. They have a whole chapter on the subject including how to setup with Apache 2.x. In a nutshell I setup a workers file under '/opt/tomcat/conf/jk' and modified my server.xml to include a couple of listener options. One for 8005 and the other for the virtual host. Find the setting for 8005 and add the listener as follows: Server port=8005 shutdown=SHUTDOWN debug=0 Listener className=org.apache.ajp.tomcat4.config.ApacheConfig / Next find the virtual host definition and add the listener there also: !-- Define the default virtual host -- Host name=localhost debug=0 appBase=webapps Listener className=org.apache.ajp.tomcat4.config.ApacheConfig append=true/ I also created '/opt/tomcat/conf/auto'. This I believe instructs Tomcat to automagically create my 'mod_jk.conf' file which Apache needs. Next modify the Apache 'httpd.conf' to include the config file Tomcat will create when you run it (Include /opt/tomcat/conf/auto/mod_jk.conf). Oh and don't forget to Load/Add the mod_jk in Apache. 'LoadModule jk_module libexec/mod_jk.so' 'AddModule mod_jk.c' I hope I didn't loose you there. I'm still rather new myself to mod_jk and Tomcat. I think that's about it. Email me directly if you need further help. After doing this a dozen times I still need to tweak things. Once I start everything up I usually run the JSP examples or servlets as a test. Can't seem to get it to work properly on the first try yet ;-) Good Luck! Has anyone been able to successfully get Tomcat working with Apache 2x using mod_jk on a RedHat 9.0 system? I can get Tomcat to work fine in standalone but for the life of me cannot get mod_jk to work. Has any kind soul created RPMs of the whole thing? Thanks in advance for any help, --Moby -- Linux: Telling Microsoft where to go since 1991 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Sweet Success
Not to be flippant, but isn't it a shame that some consultants would recommend a solution which is of more benefit to themselves than to their customer? As for me, I wasn't comfortable making any sort of Linux recommendation (pro or con) until I actually tried it out, though many asked. So, I've downloaded various distros and tried them out. From my customers' perspective, Linux is _almost_ there as a desktop. Most of my customers are too small to worry about the server side of things (peer-to-peer networks, for the most part), and use their desktops mostly as word processors, internet portals, or gateways to other systems. Some have specialized applications that they would _never_ want to part with, or it would exorbitantly expensive to re-write the app for a Linux environment. The last part of your post makes perfect sense - the more people out there that have experience with Linux, the less expensive it is to train them. The more Linux consultants that are available, the less expensive they become (in general) as resources in the management mix. Result: a lowering of Linux TCO. Tom Hightower Solutions, Inc http://www.simas.com Sean Estabrooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/21/2003 11:11 AM Please respond to redhat-list To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Sweet Success While it may well be initially less expensive to install a Linux-based computer than a Windows-based computer, there are hidden costs associated with that Linux system which many adherents tend to gloss over (if they ever mention them at all). Those hidden costs need to be evaluated BEFORE the computer is installed. In a Windows-centric enterprise where there is insufficient Linux-knowledgeable resource, it makes little economic sense to do that. The same holds true in a Linux-centric enterprise; it makes little economic sense to start installing Windows-based computers if there is insufficient internal resource to properly manage them (or the willingness to acquire the necessary resources). Tom, In my experience the TCO argument you've articulated is used mostly as FUD by people with a vested interest in the status quo. I've seen vendor after vendor try to keep Linux competition out of larger enterprises with these arguments. I've yet to see _any_ case where a Linux solution had _significant_ extra operational costs. While there is some basis for these well known arguments their applicability is surly diminishing as Linux becomes more mainstream. Regards, Sean -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
advice with this error
Hello. Just yesterdy coming of holidays i installed another time a taroon,not updated for now,but today after work all night i see this error: Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: Directory sread (sector 0x1f) failed Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: 02:00: rw=0, want=16, limit=4 Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: Directory sread (sector 0x20) failed Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: 02:00: rw=0, want=16, limit=4 Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: Directory sread (sector 0x20) failed Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: 02:00: rw=0, want=16, limit=4 Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: Directory sread (sector 0x20) failed Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Really strangeWhat can I do for solve or check? Any advice will be appreciated. Josep -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: advice with this error
Looks like filesystem corruption. You will want to power off the system and run e2fsck -f on the affected volumes from rescue media. Make sure you bugzilla this and give good details on your hardware and the configuration of the machine. Regards, Matthew Galgoci On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Josep M. wrote: Hello. Just yesterdy coming of holidays i installed another time a taroon,not updated for now,but today after work all night i see this error: Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: Directory sread (sector 0x1f) failed Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: 02:00: rw=0, want=16, limit=4 Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: Directory sread (sector 0x20) failed Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: 02:00: rw=0, want=16, limit=4 Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: Directory sread (sector 0x20) failed Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: 02:00: rw=0, want=16, limit=4 Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: Directory sread (sector 0x20) failed Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Really strangeWhat can I do for solve or check? Any advice will be appreciated. Josep -- Matthew Galgoci Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap System Administrator Red Hat, Inc 919.754.3700 x44155 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Exchange server from pine
I've used evolution and it works with the connector to an exchange 2000 server. If I could I would use evolution and drop outlook period. Why use outlook you say? Well... our NT 4.0 poc exchange 5.5 server requires it. No IMAP support or anything. Sux but that's the way it goes. Crossover Office allows me to keep my linux desktop rather than move to WinXP. Tough decision ;D I've tried wine and ms office. Not as stable unfortunately. Crossover office has done a fine job for only $54 for a 2.0 license. Cheaper than purchasing WinXP at $300 a pop (non oem license of course). Oh and this is still a nice mailing list. We simply have a few people who are socially challenged. It happens ;-) --- Outlook can be replaced by Ximian evolution and some nicely configured pine. Word by LaTeX or if you prefer you can use open office. Same goes for powerpoint. -- This is suppose to be a nice mailing list where we share knowledge and experience and help others. Not flame others. So please let's end this discussion and respects each others opinion. :-) Ok everybody? -- Linux: Telling Microsoft where to go since 1991 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Sweet Success
At 8/21/2003 10:19 -0500, you wrote: Allow me to summarize the whole point of all my posts on this matter: While it may well be initially less expensive to install a Linux-based computer than a Windows-based computer, there are hidden costs associated with that Linux system which many adherents tend to gloss over (if they ever mention them at all). Those hidden costs need to be evaluated BEFORE the computer is installed. In a Windows-centric enterprise where there is insufficient Linux-knowledgeable resource, it makes little economic sense to do that. The same holds true in a Linux-centric enterprise; it makes little economic sense to start installing Windows-based computers if there is insufficient internal resource to properly manage them (or the willingness to acquire the necessary resources). Agreed. However, I'll add the following: a Windows-centric organization such as you describe that is interested in reducing its long-term TCO _will_ benefit from investing the time and resources necessary to migrate some or all of its IT operations to Linux (or simply away from MS in some cases). We are following this sequence, for example: (1) Move all network servers (dhcp/dns/ftp/http...), file/print service, and firewalls to Linux. Down to three boxes (one firewall, one network services, one file/print services and intranet) from earlier seven, down to one admin from two. Projected TCO reduction in two-year period: $55,000. Additional costs likely: none (the one admin is Linux-capable, obviously). (2) Move all 25 users from MS Office to Sun StarOffice 6.1 when it becomes available. Functionality loss expected: none. License cost savings over two years: almost $11,000. Additional costs expected: around $2,000 in reduced productivity as users go through the learning curve and are taught (or fumble through) how to do their jobs. (3) After #1 and #2 are complete, begin a pilot deployment of Linux on the desktop for a small group (say, the sales department). We estimate that this will not save us any money at all (indeed, as you say, it will cost money), but we will invest in acquiring the Linux knowledge and resources required to then roll out Linux to all users. When we do roll out to all users, we expect to save significant sums on OS purchase and maintenance, security-related incidents, and many other areas. If you know Windows, then of course it's more expensive to start learning Linux and vice versa. But I believe that if you knew nothing at all, then it would be cheaper to start on Linux right from the start; and I also believe that if you are willing to invest in the learning curve and don't expect something for nothing, then you will also find it cheaper to migrate (slowly) from Windows to Linux. Cheers, P.S. Tom, you make good arguments although I disagree. But kindly trim your posts, would you? Quoting entire other messages and multiple sigs clogs everyone's bandwidth (and everyone is several thousand people here). -- Rodolfo J. Paiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: update problem
Is sshd running? Did the sshd_config file get modified? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Redhat Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 9:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: update problem I just updated my kernel and can no longer ssh into the machine from outside the machine. however I can ssh out directly from this machine to other machines. I also tried the old kernel but it still doesn't work. Any ideas? -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: removing old kernals?
Also, not everyone uses rpm's to install new kernels so may need to manually delete them. The locations are in /boot and /usr/src -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Earl Eiland Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 11:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: removing old kernals? The question of whether it's wise to keep old kernels is a cost/benefit issue. The answer may well vary from user to user. What's more serious, consumption of available memory by multiple kernels, or loss of functionality due to OS failure? In my case, the consequences of an OS failure _far_ exceeds consequences of running out of memory. Even though I've never had a problem with an RH upgrade, I still keep the previous kernel just in case. To me, this falls into the same category of backing up your data. You don't have to, but not having backups can cause heartache. I've had two backups, saved on different media, verified when created, both be corrupt. You can hardly be too careful! On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 16:08, Anand Buddhdev wrote: Redhat writes: When I upgrade the kernal and reboot there is a screen that lists the kernals on my machine, the top one being the new one. Should I delete the other kernels? If so how do I do this? You can see your currently installed kernel(s) with: rpm -q kernel This will list one or more kernels, for exmaple: kernel-2.4.19-8.9 kernel-2.4.20-19.9 So if you are now running 2.4.20 after an update, and you want to remove the older 2.4.19, just run the following as root: rpm -e kernel-2.4.19-8.9 It is important to specify the version and build numbers fully, so that you remove the older kernel, instead of the current one. Some people might tell you that you should keep at least one older kernel on the system, in case something is wrong with you current one, and you need the older one to fall back on. In my personal experience though, I've never had trouble with a newer kernel from RedHat, so I usually remove the older kernels and only keep one on my system. -- Anand Buddhdev -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: VPN Software
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 09:59, Jason Dixon wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 10:55, bruce wrote: Hi... A quick (or not) question about VPN software. Does anyone have any recommendations for good/solid/secure Open Source VPN software that you've actually installed/used or been exposed to!!! As far as Windows clients go, I prefer SSH Sentinel. Very easy to setup, nice to administer and track network usage. Unfortunately, they've recently stopped selling it retail and now only offer it through resellers/rebranding. Softnet's Soft-PK is supposed to work nicely on Windows and comply with the open source IPsec implementations, but I haven't tried it yet. Hmm. I am about to wade into the windows - linux vpn connectivity at our office. We have used simple ssh tunneled ppp conncetions for years betwen two linux boxes. It was my understanding that there is builtin ipsec capability in XP that works with FreeSwan Is this not the case? Bret -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: advice with this error
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 11:42, Josep M. wrote: Hello. Just yesterdy coming of holidays i installed another time a taroon,not updated for now,but today after work all night i see this error: Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: Directory sread (sector 0x1f) failed Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: 02:00: rw=0, want=16, limit=4 Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: Directory sread (sector 0x20) failed Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: 02:00: rw=0, want=16, limit=4 Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: Directory sread (sector 0x20) failed Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: 02:00: rw=0, want=16, limit=4 Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: Directory sread (sector 0x20) failed Aug 21 04:36:49 zendra kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Really strangeWhat can I do for solve or check? Any advice will be appreciated. well device 02:00 is /dev/fd0 so maybe you ejected a floppy without unmounting it? or bad floppy I guess. Bret -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: That movie
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 06:04, Mark Haney wrote: Thank you God. This email was what got me flamed yesterday. As you can see, it's NOT coming from me. Anyone who believes mail headers on virii and spam is rather naive. Regards, -- Cliff Wells, Software Engineer Logiplex Corporation (www.logiplex.net) (503) 978-6726 (800) 735-0555 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: That movie
Cliff Wells wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 06:04, Mark Haney wrote: Thank you God. This email was what got me flamed yesterday. As you can see, it's NOT coming from me. Anyone who believes mail headers on virii and spam is rather naive. Regards, -- Cliff Wells, Software Engineer Logiplex Corporation (www.logiplex.net) (503) 978-6726 (800) 735-0555 Not naïve. I was just stating that the email sent to the list was the same one mine caught and spammed everyone yesterday. Without that notification coming from me, I KNOW it wasn't being sent from my IP's. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Premature end of script
Have you tried changing the unicode settings in redhat? I know I've heard a lot of people having issues with perl due to the unicode setting in RH9. See https://www.redhat.com/archives/redhat-list/2003-June/msg02860.html for more info. hope this helps, nw -Original Message- From: Thomas E. Dukes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 3:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Com Subject: Premature end of script Hello, Since upgrading to RH 9.0, I have had a rash of previously running .cgi's getting Premature end script. Has anyone had these problems? Is there a problem with perl in RH 9.0? Openwebmail was one. It did this twice, but a re-install fixed it for now. Now its my counter, wwwcount. This is a compiled, perl binary. What can be cause all my perl scripts to crap out? TIA Palmetto Shopper http://www.palmettoshopper.com Serving all of South Carolina and beyond! Palmetto Politics http://www.palmettoshopper.com/politics/ -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Upgrade new kernel problem
Hi there! I have recently upgraded my RH8 kernel from 2.4.20-19.8 to 2.4.20-20.8 with Redhat's update software and I noted some error messages(if you can call them errors) during boot-up like the one below. Loading imm module /lib/imm.o: unresolved symbol parport_claim (etc..) /lib/imm.o: unresolved symbol ... (about 4 or 5 lines of them - I can't cut and paste or remember all of them because they scroll up too fast) I can't find them in 'dmesg' or in any other log files. It seems they only appear at the beginning during the boot-up screen where it loads various modules and other stuff. This has never happen before with any older kernel versions. I do have a parallel port zip250 drive but loading them manuall with 'modprobe imm' or loading it automatically by assigning them in 'module.conf' as 'scsi_hostadapter imm' does not make the error messages go away. However the zip drive now only works when I load the imm module manually and not automatically anymore. Have anyone else experience the same problem? Thanks. I am not sure if my first post went through...I'm sorry if you recive this post the 2nd time. Andrew Lee email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/ -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: URGENT! My RedHat 9.0 server will not boot anymore!
Boot into single user mode, as described in http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/custom-guide/s1-re scuemode-booting-single.html Run /usr/sbin/ntsysv and uncheck the service that is failing. hope this helps, nw -Original Message- From: Stuart Stephen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 3:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: URGENT! My RedHat 9.0 server will not boot anymore! Hi, I tried to install a service using a wrapper script to run a java application in the background. It would appear that it doesn't run in the background so therefore when I boot linux now. It stops at this service. How can I rectify this? I've got GRUB bootloader and RH 9.0 installed. Thanks! Stuart -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Sweet Success
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 08:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From an admin point of view, I want a box out there that my users can't change. When they make a change and it screws up the computer, it costs my company money for me to fix it (whether I fix it myself, or hire someone else to do it for me). Some would fire the user, but guess what - it costs money to replace them, too.(2) If they have console access, and there is any media access, there is no way to prevent them from making changes. True of any OS. Someone will change something at some time. Plan on it. - rick -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Monitor unknwon
Joe, I had the same problem as yours. My solution was to use their SmartStart Disk to remove Compaq System Rom. Hope this help you too. Dave I am installing Linux 9.0 on a Compaq Proliant 1600 It detects the video card properly, but hangs with monitor unknown message. I have tried different monitors and booting on text mode without luck Any one out there? Joe __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Command free
hello people, total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:513488 510424 3064668 8144 344916 -/+ buffers/cache: 157364 356124 Swap: 1228964 184281210536 Is correct I say , this: my machine have only 3064 of memory free to new programs? Thanks, -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: That movie
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 10:18, Mark Haney wrote: Cliff Wells wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 06:04, Mark Haney wrote: Thank you God. This email was what got me flamed yesterday. As you can see, it's NOT coming from me. Anyone who believes mail headers on virii and spam is rather naive. Not naïve. I was just stating that the email sent to the list was the same one mine caught and spammed everyone yesterday. Without that notification coming from me, I KNOW it wasn't being sent from my IP's. I wasn't referring to you. I was referring to the people who flamed you. -- Cliff Wells, Software Engineer Logiplex Corporation (www.logiplex.net) (503) 978-6726 (800) 735-0555 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Command free
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 10:31, Mohamed Patricio wrote: hello people, total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:513488 510424 3064668 8144 344916 -/+ buffers/cache: 157364 356124 Swap: 1228964 184281210536 Is correct I say , this: my machine have only 3064 of memory free to new programs? This should be a FAQ question; it pops up way too regularly. In a word, no. What that says is that 3064 (Kb) has not been used by anything yet (has not been allocated). But you have 356124 (Kb) that has been allocated at some time but is now free (buffer/cache line). And you have 1210536 (Kb) in available swap space. So, you have 350 Mb of real memory free for programs/data at the moment, and over 1 Gb of virtual memory free. You should read up on memory use by Linux - allocation, deallocation, how these affect reporting by 'free', etc. - rick - -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Sweet Success
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 00:44, T. Ribbrock wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 03:41:42PM -0700, Cliff Wells wrote: [...] At one time we could boast that Linux could perform well on low-end hardware but such is no longer the case. Linux Likes RAM! As does any other OS out there. Sort of true. For a desktop, I think Linux is a bit hungrier than Windows. [...] I disagree. I still run Linux machines with GUI on 64MB and 48MB and the only Windows that could match the performance on those machines is Win95 and lower (even a fresh Win98 install started swapping wildly rather soon on those boxes). Linux gives me the choice to use a lean GUI that only provides the features I need. Yes, but you've also removed yourself from the mainstream Linux destop. While choice is certainly an important aspect of Linux, it's also a bit misleading to compare something that most users will never see with Windows. If we're going to talk GUI's on Linux we should stick with GNOME and KDE for the sake of comparison. The people who know how to install alternate desktops aren't the people interested in comparisons: they already know. Windows does not give me that option and hence forces me to use bigger hardware for a desktop machine. IMO, if you want the same, bloated GUI feature set as you have in Windows, And this is indeed what your average user (especially those coming from Windows) wants. Regards, -- Cliff Wells, Software Engineer Logiplex Corporation (www.logiplex.net) (503) 978-6726 (800) 735-0555 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RPM for TIN newsreader
* John P Verel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-08-21 07:29]: On 08/21/03 09:31 -0400, Jason Dixon wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 09:28, John P Verel wrote: Have a look at Mutt. It's terrific. Oops. Sorry, I misread and thought mail reader blush I agree that slrn is a great choice. John Mutt's definitely an option with the vvv.nntp patch. -- Marc Adler Honolulu, Hawaii I said uh hip, hop, uh hip it, uh hip it to the hip hip hop uh you don't stop the rockin to the bang-bang boogey said up jumped the boogey to the rhythm of the boogety beat. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Proxy server
This one is for all the gurus! Here is the problem: I'm setting up a Proxy server for my company so that it does a destination NAT on the IP. For those people that don't want to pay for our service, we want to direct them to a webpage that they can either cancel their service or agree that they will pay us. The clients use an IP in the range of 192.168.*.* (255 class C's) This is how far I've gotten: I've setup the machine with destination NAT and masquerading, and all of that works great. Dialup users get routed through the proxy machine and the packets coming in get their destination changed to go to one of our web servers. Then it comes back through the proxy to the client. We have tried just a normal DNAT without masquerading, but the packet goes all the way to the web server but it can't find its way back from that point. The problem we are encountering: Whenever a client does this, a coldfusion page is supposed to look-up their IP and retrieve their login information. It displays the username, how much they owe us, etc. What is happening is that the coldfusion page is recieving the IP for the Proxy server rather than the IP for the client machine. The question: Is there anyway to retrieve the IP of the client machine so we can retrieve their information? Thanks in advance for all the help, it is greatly appreciated!! Brad Hittle
RE: That movie
Cliff Wells wrote: Ah, I see. Then I apologize. It's been a long week. I wasn't referring to you. I was referring to the people who flamed you. -- Cliff Wells, Software Engineer Logiplex Corporation (www.logiplex.net) (503) 978-6726 (800) 735-0555 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Sweet Success
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 13:21, Rick Warner wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 08:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From an admin point of view, I want a box out there that my users can't change. When they make a change and it screws up the computer, it costs my company money for me to fix it (whether I fix it myself, or hire someone else to do it for me). Some would fire the user, but guess what - it costs money to replace them, too.(2) If they have console access, and there is any media access, there is no way to prevent them from making changes. True of any OS. Someone will change something at some time. Plan on it. - rick They're going to screw it up, if they can. Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool Best bet, and cheap, Grab Norton Ghost, or something like it, make an image of the machine as you want it. If they truly foul it up. Insert boot disk, and copy image from network. You get a new machine in about 10 minutes. -- Michael Gargiullo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Warp Drive Networks -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Proxy server
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 13:53:35 -0400 Brad Hittle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This one is for all the gurus! Here is the problem: I'm setting up a Proxy server for my company so that it does a destination NAT on the IP. For those people that don't want to pay for our service, we want to direct them to a webpage that they can either cancel their service or agree that they will pay us. The clients use an IP in the range of 192.168.*.* (255 class C's) This is how far I've gotten: I've setup the machine with destination NAT and masquerading, and all of that works great. Dialup users get routed through the proxy machine and the packets coming in get their destination changed to go to one of our web servers. Then it comes back through the proxy to the client. We have tried just a normal DNAT without masquerading, but the packet goes all the way to the web server but it can't find its way back from that point. The problem we are encountering: Whenever a client does this, a coldfusion page is supposed to look-up their IP and retrieve their login information. It displays the username, how much they owe us, etc. What is happening is that the coldfusion page is recieving the IP for the Proxy server rather than the IP for the client machine. The question: Is there anyway to retrieve the IP of the client machine so we can retrieve their information? Thanks in advance for all the help, it is greatly appreciated!! Brad Hittle Brad, The setup you're proposing will likely have many problems. People on dialup service get a different IP everytime they connect. Many people share an IP from behind a firewall.. etc. etc. Having said that, if you are only using DNAT then the source address is not changed at all and you should be able to simply use it. Cheers, Sean -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RE: Premature end of script
Hi Nick, I think I recall making that change in RH 8.0 or something similar to it. I'll look into it this evening. Something is messing with me and it bugs me I can't figure what it is. Thanks From: Nick White [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/08/21 Thu PM 12:15:10 CDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Premature end of script Have you tried changing the unicode settings in redhat? I know I've heard a lot of people having issues with perl due to the unicode setting in RH9. See https://www.redhat.com/archives/redhat-list/2003-June/msg02860.html for more info. hope this helps, nw -Original Message- From: Thomas E. Dukes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 3:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Com Subject: Premature end of script Hello, Since upgrading to RH 9.0, I have had a rash of previously running .cgi's getting Premature end script. Has anyone had these problems? Is there a problem with perl in RH 9.0? Openwebmail was one. It did this twice, but a re-install fixed it for now. Now its my counter, wwwcount. This is a compiled, perl binary. What can be cause all my perl scripts to crap out? TIA Palmetto Shopper http://www.palmettoshopper.com Serving all of South Carolina and beyond! Palmetto Politics http://www.palmettoshopper.com/politics/ -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: VPN Software
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 13:10, Bret Hughes wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 09:59, Jason Dixon wrote: As far as Windows clients go, I prefer SSH Sentinel. Very easy to setup, nice to administer and track network usage. Unfortunately, they've recently stopped selling it retail and now only offer it through resellers/rebranding. Softnet's Soft-PK is supposed to work nicely on Windows and comply with the open source IPsec implementations, but I haven't tried it yet. Hmm. I am about to wade into the windows - linux vpn connectivity at our office. We have used simple ssh tunneled ppp conncetions for years betwen two linux boxes. It was my understanding that there is builtin ipsec capability in XP that works with FreeSwan Is this not the case? Yes, Windows XP includes IPsec support via the MMC/Security plugins. Unfortunately, it's a hideous mess to setup/maintain, IMHO. Folks with more experience running Windows XP's native IPsec support may argue otherwise, but that's why they're experts. ;-) For my money ($99-$129), most 3rd party IPsec Windows clients are worth it. -- Jason Dixon, RHCE DixonGroup Consulting http://www.dixongroup.net -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Decrypt Passwords
Hey I've already set the clock yet How John The Ripper is running from about 20 hours without success It try lot of different passwords. 3 Days ?? Isn't any email from you to me in my Mailbox... And aim't ignoring those requests, when i've warned (Yesterday), solve the problem on the same instant. On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 22:08, Edward Dekkers wrote: Jason - seems the guy is ignoring those requests - I asked him to do the same (privately) about 3 days ago. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Spreadsheet program?
At 8/11/2003 09:55 -0600, you wrote: I don't think you will find any as good and extensive as Excel, but the closest I have seen is the one from StarOffice or OpenOffice. Quattro Pro was as good -some may say better- than Excel, but I don't think Linux version is still available. I find the StarOffice is competitive with Excel (and I am _very_ good with Excel). Some things are not as good, but a few things are even better... the net loss in functionality is very small excluding the VBA stuff. Plus, I'm happy to pay $75 instead of $375 for an office suite that really works very well and hasn't given me a single error or crash in over a year. -- Rodolfo J. Paiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Sweet Success
I normally do trim posts to remove parts that irrelevent to my reply. I'm embarrassed that I did not in my earlier posting. Tom Hightower Solutions, Inc http://www.simas.com Rodolfo J. Paiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/21/2003 11:58 AM Please respond to redhat-list To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Sweet Success Cheers, P.S. Tom, you make good arguments although I disagree. But kindly trim your posts, would you? Quoting entire other messages and multiple sigs clogs everyone's bandwidth (and everyone is several thousand people here). -- Rodolfo J. Paiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Command free
Mohamed Patricio wrote: hello people, total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:513488 510424 3064668 8144 344916 -/+ buffers/cache: 157364 356124 Swap: 1228964 184281210536 Is correct I say , this: my machine have only 3064 of memory free to new programs? Almost, but not quite There are 3064 KB of RAM that is currently not used by the system for anything. If any process requests more memory the kernel can allocate RAM to meet that request from this pool of RAM with very little overhead. You have 356124 KB of ram that is free for allocation to processes that request it, but 8144+344916 KB of that RAM is currently being used for disk cache and buffer space, allocating RAM from this pool is possible, but will take a little longer than allocating from the 3064KB that is unused because the kernel would have to either flush buffers to disk, or delete the most stale cache and remove the references in the cache management structures before the RAM could be alocated. You can adjust the amount of buffer/cache/free space that the kernel will play with dynamically by looking at these parameters (among others) /proc/sys/vm/freepages /proc/sys/vm/buffermem /proc/sys/vm/bdflush -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Proxy server
Sean, We keep a status for the dialup account users. When they logon, they recieve a specific IP from us denoting status (ie if they are in the billing status the ip would range from 192.168.153.*). When we only use DNAT, the packets never make their way back to the client machine. Thats why we are routing the packet back through the proxy server. I have sniffed every possible place along the line using only the DNAT (excluding the router, and some other machines it must go through), and have seen everything working properly. Brad - Original Message - From: Sean Estabrooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Proxy server On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 13:53:35 -0400 Brad Hittle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This one is for all the gurus! Here is the problem: I'm setting up a Proxy server for my company so that it does a destination NAT on the IP. For those people that don't want to pay for our service, we want to direct them to a webpage that they can either cancel their service or agree that they will pay us. The clients use an IP in the range of 192.168.*.* (255 class C's) This is how far I've gotten: I've setup the machine with destination NAT and masquerading, and all of that works great. Dialup users get routed through the proxy machine and the packets coming in get their destination changed to go to one of our web servers. Then it comes back through the proxy to the client. We have tried just a normal DNAT without masquerading, but the packet goes all the way to the web server but it can't find its way back from that point. The problem we are encountering: Whenever a client does this, a coldfusion page is supposed to look-up their IP and retrieve their login information. It displays the username, how much they owe us, etc. What is happening is that the coldfusion page is recieving the IP for the Proxy server rather than the IP for the client machine. The question: Is there anyway to retrieve the IP of the client machine so we can retrieve their information? Thanks in advance for all the help, it is greatly appreciated!! Brad Hittle Brad, The setup you're proposing will likely have many problems. People on dialup service get a different IP everytime they connect. Many people share an IP from behind a firewall.. etc. etc. Having said that, if you are only using DNAT then the source address is not changed at all and you should be able to simply use it. Cheers, Sean -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Sweet Success
True - maybe that's part of the reason that I'm so fond of green-screen dumb terminals. There isn't much to those things for users to mess with. Tom Hightower Solutions, Inc http://www.simas.com Rick Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/21/2003 12:21 PM Please respond to redhat-list To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Sweet Success On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 08:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From an admin point of view, I want a box out there that my users can't change. When they If they have console access, and there is any media access, there is no way to prevent them from making changes. True of any OS. Someone will change something at some time. Plan on it. - rick -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
ATI Mobility Rage support
Hello everybody I am a linux newbie. I installed RH 6.0 on my Acer travelmate 528TE laptop. The laptop comes with the ATI Mobility Rage 8mb graphics chip. The problem I have is that my version of X does not support this chip and so I get a corrupted display. I have tried updating X from the redhat site but the version of X available for upgrade is too old. How do I upgrade X? Is it possible to just install support for my VGA chip without upgrading X? ATI does not offer linux drivers for this chip. Getting a newer distro is NOT an option for me. Please help. I have the following version of x: 3.3.3.1 ,release date jan 4 1999. TIA Abdussamad -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: VPN Software
How about Linux to cisco? BennyJason Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 13:10, Bret Hughes wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 09:59, Jason Dixon wrote: As far as Windows clients go, I prefer SSH Sentinel. Very easy to setup, nice to administer and track network usage. Unfortunately, they've recently stopped selling it retail and now only offer it through resellers/rebranding. Softnet's Soft-PK is supposed to work nicely on Windows and comply with the open source IPsec implementations, but I haven't tried it yet.Hmm. I am about to wade into the windows - linux vpn connectivity at our office. We have used simple ssh tunneled ppp conncetions for years betwen two linux boxes. It was my understanding that there is "builtin" ipsec capability in XP that works with FreeSwan Is this ! not the case?Yes, Windows XP includes IPsec support via the MMC/Security plugins. Unfortunately, it's a hideous mess to setup/maintain, IMHO. Folks withmore experience running Windows XP's native IPsec support may argueotherwise, but that's why they're experts. ;-) For my money($99-$129), most 3rd party IPsec Windows clients are worth it.-- Jason Dixon, RHCEDixonGroup Consultinghttp://www.dixongroup.net-- redhat-list mailing listunsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list Do you Yahoo!? Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM).
Reinstalling Postfix with additional options...
Hello everyone. I am currently working on mail server, running Postfix 2.0.12, which was installed via RPM from the following link: http://postfix.wl0.org/en/ So here are my questions: (Bare with me...im fairly new to all of this) 1.) It appears that I am going to need to do one of two things to be able to add a few features that I would like: Specifially, SASL support. To do that, I can do one of two things: Download the source tarball and go through the all thing: OR, I can download the src.rpm available, and configure a few options of my own, correct? 2.) Currently, my mail server is working the way I would like it to be. I have setup my main.cf and master.cf and it is doing what I want it to do. 3.) What is the best way I can go about re-installing postfix, to add new features, and at the same time, make sure I do not lose any important information? I already backed up my main.cf and master.cf...is there anything else that I can do? I have not done a whole lot of recompling software to add new features, so im still learning. If anyone can help me out here, I would very much appreciate it. Thank you. Jason -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Proxy server
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:24:04 -0400 Brad Hittle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sean, We keep a status for the dialup account users. When they logon, they recieve a specific IP from us denoting status (ie if they are in the billing status the ip would range from 192.168.153.*). When we only use DNAT, the packets never make their way back to the client machine. Thats why we are routing the packet back through the proxy server. I have sniffed every possible place along the line using only the DNAT (excluding the router, and some other machines it must go through), and have seen everything working properly. Brad Hey Brad, Not sure i understand your configuration well enough to help much, but if you post your iptables(?) rules for DNAT someone may be able to help. I'm interested to know what you mean by they recieve a specific IP from us, do you mean in your billing system or do you actually modify their incoming ip in someway on the wire. Sean -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: VPN Software
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 14:31, Benjamin wrote: Jason Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Windows XP includes IPsec support via the MMC/Security plugins. Unfortunately, it's a hideous mess to setup/maintain, IMHO. Folks with more experience running Windows XP's native IPsec support may argue otherwise, but that's why they're experts. ;-) For my money ($99-$129), most 3rd party IPsec Windows clients are worth it. How about Linux to cisco? Hi, Benny. Please don't top-post. You shouldn't have any problems, but I'd imagine it depends on your setup and IPsec software. You didn't mention if you were talking endpoint-to-endpoint, host-to-endpoint, which was which, FreeSWAN or OpenVPN (or others), etc. From my experience, the Cisco client software works fine with FreeSWAN. I haven't tried Linux clients with Cisco gateways. The big drawback with FreeSWAN, IMHO, is that it only supports 3DES. No AES/Blowfish/etc. The native IPsec support in 2.5/2.6 looks much more promising. It appears to support all the major algorithms, not to mention automatic keying using an optional list of accepted algorithms. This looks much more like KAME (probably is), and should be on your short list of IPsec implementations if you're designing a new network. http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.ipsec.html -- Jason Dixon, RHCE DixonGroup Consulting http://www.dixongroup.net -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: ATI Mobility Rage support
Abdussamad Abdurrazzaq wrote: Hello everybody I am a linux newbie. I installed RH 6.0 on my Acer travelmate 528TE laptop. The laptop comes with the ATI Mobility Rage 8mb graphics chip. The problem I have is that my version of X does not support this chip and so I get a corrupted display. I have tried updating X from the redhat site but the version of X available for upgrade is too old. How do I upgrade X? Is it possible to just install support for my VGA chip without upgrading X? ATI does not offer linux drivers for this chip. Getting a newer distro is NOT an option for me. Please help. I have the following version of x: 3.3.3.1 ,release date jan 4 1999. TIA Abdussamad Well (since using a newer distro is out of the question) you have a lot of hard work ahead of you. I would suggest that you download the X source rpms from redhat 6.2 and recompile them on your machine and see if that fixes the problem If it does not, then you will have to try downloading the X source RPMS from 7.0 or 7.1 and try that. You may find that you will have to upgrade many core things on the system (such as the kernel, the glibc, and so on) in order to upgrade X, it might be easier to simply upgrade the distro than it is to try to backport all these patches. This is why there are different versions of the OS with different channels of RPM packages. If it were easy to upgrade one part of the system without upgrading other parts (which in turn affect yet more) then there would just be one release of RedHat Linux and an endless stream of updates. -Ben. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Proxy server
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 14:36, Sean Estabrooks wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:24:04 -0400
Brad Hittle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We keep a status for the dialup account users. When they logon, they
recieve a specific IP from us denoting status (ie if they are in the billing
status the ip would range from 192.168.153.*).
When we only use DNAT, the packets never make their way back to the client
machine. Thats why we are routing the packet back through the proxy server.
I have sniffed every possible place along the line using only the DNAT
(excluding the router, and some other machines it must go through), and have
seen everything working properly.
Not sure i understand your configuration well enough to help much, but
if you post your iptables(?) rules for DNAT someone may be able to help.
I'm interested to know what you mean by they recieve a specific IP from us,
do you mean in your billing system or do you actually modify their
incoming ip in someway on the wire.
Assuming your proxy hasn't rewritten the HTTP header, you should be
able to get the client's source address from the REMOTE_ADDR value. In
Perl, this would be $ENV{REMOTE_ADDR}. I'm not sure what the equivalent
would be in ColdFusion.
--
Jason Dixon, RHCE
DixonGroup Consulting
http://www.dixongroup.net
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