Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fuses on power cords]
The telling point it to measure the output power with none, then one, then two uses in line. I think you will be surprised at just how much power even .7 of a volt costs you. I remember seeing a Icom 22 go from 11w to 6w. This power loss is why many radios have a diode connected in reverse across the power leads - something designed to blow the fuse when the radio is hooked up backwards yet keeping full power out under normal conditions. Mike WA6ILQ At 01:05 AM 1/8/04 -0500, you wrote: Yes,0.7 volts per side,1.4 total. Some radios wont like it but most I have tried worked ok. 73,Lee - Original Message - From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 1:02 AM Subject: Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fuses on power cords] That's a good idea that I have done also, but it is 1.4v drop, not .7v Lee Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The protection diodes should have blown the fuses,shouldnt have damaged the radios unless too big a fuse was used. An old trick I have used where the unknowing kept hooking things up reversed,was to use a diode bridge inline- then the polarity wouldnt matter. Worked well if you could live with the 0.7v drop,and its idiot proof ! Of course,fuse both leads... 73,Lee,N3APP Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] CW ID info
This is true - and still no FCC rule PREVENTS you from adding it. I STILL like having every TX in a system have a unique ID for the same reason as I said earlier: if someone is hearing one of my TXs someplace it shouldn't be and they can catch the ID it tells me which TX to look at. Mike WA6ILQ At 11:23 AM 1/7/04 -0500, you wrote: The latest re-write of the FCC Part 97 rules do not dictate that you have to add ANY /R, /L, or / anything to repeater or link transmitter callsigns. Just a plain callsign is fine and less than 20 WPM if using CW ID's ( Tone modulated FM in FM repeaters). Ron -WB8ERB- -Original Message- From: Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:02 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] CW ID info I just had a old rack mount data Signal CWID-70 Re programmed with My call , They forgot to put /R But I will use My controller for That. I was thinking of putting a 220 Link on My 440 repeater or a remote . Do I have to ID That as /L Or can it just be My call ? PS Data Signal is no longer in business , But they still had a former employee working for the New Company called Game Country in Albany Ga , that I got it re programmed and a Manual from. so if anyone is still using a Unit like this and needs info E-Mail and I will look in the Manual. Thanks Don KA9QJG Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Broken/ stuck slugs - was Fiberglass rod
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 00:32:58 -0500, stephanieree wrote: ive tried rubber bands next to the slug. The only problem with rubber bands is that most are square, and have a tendency to jump during the flat spots. I've used thin O rings cut to size with great success. Being round, they turn smoothly. Tedd Doda, VE3TJD Lazer Audio and Electronics Baden, Ontario, Canada Way to go Matt! (NASCAR #17) Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Broken/ stuck slugs - was Fiberglass rod
At 12:15 PM 1/7/04 -0500, you wrote: (The small hotel soaps work especially well. Don't us your wife's good dove) This process has worked well for me. Any other suggestions? Scott Thanks for the Tip Scott and we won't tell your wife where You got the Hotel soap Don KA9QJG Some soaps harden after a while - and some doesn't. I know that Ivory bar soap dries but doesn't turn to glue the way that liquid dish soap does. In my late fathers toolbox there is still a half-bar of Ivory that he used to use for lubricating wood screws before he'd twist them in... he'd just drag the threads across the soap, stick them in the predrilled hole and twist... That bar of soap was new sometime in the 1940s and there's still half left. As far as lubricating coil slugs I've used a drop of Scotch Scotch Yellow-77 wire pulling compound - which you can get at your local electrical distributor - sometimes referred to with other names (one of the more polite ones is Gorilla Snot). It dries to a very slick talcum-powder-like residue - something that does not jam a slug at all.. Mike WA6ILQ At 04:46 PM 1/7/04 -0600, you wrote: Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fiberglass rod
On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 11:37:57 -0500, Mike Perryman wrote: Just one question. Which gives up first... the fiberglass rod, or the slug? Breaking a slug can be a real pain in the hiney!! Being only an 1/8 in diameter, you usually can't get enough torque to damage the slug, unless you try and use a 14 pipe wrench on the dowel :) The secret in using the fiberglass rod is the use of the Dremel tool. I have a selection of small grinding wheels which makes every conceivable shape possible. Tedd Doda, VE3TJD Lazer Audio and Electronics Baden, Ontario, Canada Way to go Matt! (NASCAR #17) Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fuses on power cords
A competitor of ours wired a cement truck with a new Kenwood right to the battery with both leads (not fusing the negative lead). It lost the chassis ground, and the starter current went through the radio back to the battery. The radio was toast (literally). Joe M. I would agree that this is one of the main factors for fusing the ground. Remember you have a antenna that is grounded with a possibility of a ground difference. Use better than OEM fuse holders though, for I had a hum in my radio at full power that went away when I put real fuse holders on it. I think it is safe to say that no ground fuse is necessary in vehicles as long as it is the ONLY ground (not mounted to metal and no antenna connected) John - KI4AWK Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] diddle sticks???
You could try MCM Electronics in Dayton OH for new parts, or Fair Radio in Lima OH for surplus... - Adam - Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fiberglass rod
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 12:04:20 -0500, Rogers, Ron wrote: McMaster-Carr carries all sorts of Fiberglass rod material in various sizes. An example is a 60 length of 1/4 rod for $2.25. Check out part no. 8543K59 on the McMaster Carr website if you are interested. 8543K27 looks to be the 1/8 rod..thanks! I've sent them an email to see if they can chop them up into 12 pieces, to make shipping a little easier. The only thing that worries me is that they are natural fiberglass, and may have a course grain. The red ones I have here have a very fine grain and are very easy to shape. Thanks for the tip Ron Tedd Doda, VE3TJD Lazer Audio and Electronics Baden, Ontario, Canada Way to go Matt! (NASCAR #17) Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] diddle sticks???
If you need one for Motorola, they still sell them. About $7 with shipping and all. That's where I went for tuning my mitreks If you get a younger sounding person on the phone, ask for a tuning screwdriver --they may not know 'diddle'! Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Cable Lengths and Connectors
I am building notch filters for my 6m repeater project (out of 1 5/8 heliax) The connecting cables between the filters are all 1/4 wavelength, per the design instructions. The cable connecting the notch filters to the radio will need to have connectors in the line (to pass through the cabnet, etc) and be about one wavelength long. Should I put the connectors at the 1/4 wavelength, or should I avoid putting connectors there? Does it matter? To put it another way, where is the place of least loss to put a connector in a cable? Should I use BNC, PL-259, or what? John- KI4AWK Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: FREE 330 watt GE AMP
I didn't have a manual. If you have one that you are willing to part with, I'm sure the new owner will be interested. 73, Mike N3EZD --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you give him the manual too? Neil n3ezd wrote: A new home for the amp has been found. 73 Mike N3EZD --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n3ezd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Free if you are fast enough, it's soon to be residing in the local landfill, GE 4EF4A3 Rev. A, 330 watt, low band 42-54MHz, all three decks, plus metering panel, even has the directional coupler, was working when removed from service, also good for spare power supply parts if you have one of these amps on another band, no shipping, you must pick it up near Baltimore MD. Mike Dees N3EZD Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] diddle sticks???
They might not not the term 'diddle' in your way of thinking ... Neil John Clark wrote: If you need one for Motorola, they still sell them. About $7 with shipping and all. That's where I went for tuning my mitreks. If you get a younger sounding person on the phone, ask for a tuning screwdriver --they may not know 'diddle'! Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Broken/ stuck slugs - was Fiberglass rod
Mike, You are quite correct ... it's-snot funny ... Neil Mike Morris wrote: At 12:15 PM 1/7/04 -0500, you wrote: (The small hotel soaps work especially well. Don't us your wife's good dove) This process has worked well for me. Any other suggestions? Scott Thanks for the Tip Scott and we won't tell your wife where You got the Hotel soap Don KA9QJG Some soaps harden after a while - and some doesn't. I know that Ivory bar soap dries but doesn't turn to glue the way that liquid dish soap does. In my late fathers toolbox there is still a half-bar of Ivory that he used to use for lubricating wood screws before he'd twist them in... he'd just drag the threads across the soap, stick them in the predrilled hole and twist... That bar of soap was new sometime in the 1940s and there's still half left. As far as lubricating coil slugs I've used a drop of Scotch Scotch Yellow-77 wire pulling compound - which you can get at your local electrical distributor - sometimes referred to with other names (one of the more polite ones is Gorilla Snot). It dries to a very slick talcum-powder-like residue - something that does not jam a slug at all.. Mike WA6ILQ At 04:46 PM 1/7/04 -0600, you wrote: Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder]
You can try the phone company. I have had great success getting 1200' spools of 5 pair cable. I tell them I am putting in a new home and need some wire to bury with the electric cable. The only problem is you will need to do this several times and do some splicing to get to your 3500'. You might ask how much it is to buy a piece 3500' long. you may just be surprised at the price. (good or bad!) Scott - Original Message - From: W3GFD [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 12:24 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] I am looking for about 3500 feet of surplus 4 pair direct burial telephone cable for a remote base project. The 4 pairs is a minimum. If anyone knows of any at a real good price please let me know. Thanks for your help. W3GFD Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fiberglass rod
Tedd: The rods I have gotten from them before seem to be on the order of G10 Fiberglass which is fairly workable, at least for 1/4 tools and tuning shafts. I have made a couple of screw driver tipped tools for tuning the Vari-notch trimmers on TX-RX duplexers with this material. I cut the tuning tools about 4 long, shape the end into a flat screwdriver blade using a Dremel then a file, and install a small radio control knob on the end for nice torque. When tweaking those TX-RX trimmers is mandatory to use a tool containing no metal whatsoever. Ron Rogers -WB8ERB- -Original Message- From: Tedd Doda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 6:22 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fiberglass rod On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 12:04:20 -0500, Rogers, Ron wrote: McMaster-Carr carries all sorts of Fiberglass rod material in various sizes. An example is a 60 length of 1/4 rod for $2.25. Check out part no. 8543K59 on the McMaster Carr website if you are interested. 8543K27 looks to be the 1/8 rod..thanks! I've sent them an email to see if they can chop them up into 12 pieces, to make shipping a little easier. The only thing that worries me is that they are natural fiberglass, and may have a course grain. The red ones I have here have a very fine grain and are very easy to shape. Thanks for the tip Ron Tedd Doda, VE3TJD Lazer Audio and Electronics Baden, Ontario, Canada Way to go Matt! (NASCAR #17) Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fuses on power cords
I use the blade type fuse holders and solder them in. I experience much less voltage drop across them, resulting in more power out of the radio. Richard, N7TGB -Original Message- From: Rod Lane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 10:07 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fuses on power cords I think we all agree that there's nothing wrong with having the fuses there. With that said, and we want to install fuses in the grounds of existing radios without the fuses, is there a favorite fuse holder for in-line use? I've never seen a 3AG style in-line fuseholder like comes with most radios as a stand-alone purchasable item. It usually comes with a short (most times inadequate) length of wire out each end, already crimped to the buttons or clamps used for contact to the fuses. The only other kind of in-line fuseholders I've seen is the kind that use the new blade type automotive fuses. I picked up one that is designed to solderlessly connect to the wires in an insulation-displacement style, but it looked really weak. I wouldn't trust it with a couple of amps, let alone what a high power radio would need. 73 de N1FNE Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] inline fuse holders
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 01:06:30 -0500 Rod Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: With that said, and we want to install fuses in the grounds of existing radios without the fuses, is there a favorite fuse holder for in-line use? I've never seen a 3AG style in-line fuseholder like comes with most radios as a stand-alone purchasable item. It usually comes with a short (most times inadequate) length of wire out each end, already crimped to the buttons or clamps used for contact to the fuses. Check your electrical wholesaler; once stumbled on a nice one -- rubberized, linked, ribbed cover ends (adjustable length can't get lost) with ready-to-crimp contacts for 14ga or so; price wasn't so bad. mfgr was maybe BUSS or TRON ?? R Scott Gilmore N8BQN Saginaw MI USA Give a man a fish, and he'll eat for a day. Give him the internet, and he'll leave you alone for weeks. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] diddle sticks???
remembering that this is a technical forum how else could this be interpreted but in the technical rather than biblical sense... I' m shocked nay disappointed that anyone would attach anyother meaning to my suggestion. mdm ted (incensed ;-)) --- Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They might not not the term 'diddle' in your way of thinking ... Neil John Clark wrote: If you need one for Motorola, they still sell them. About $7 with shipping and all. That's where I went for tuning my mitreks. If you get a younger sounding person on the phone, ask for a tuning screwdriver --they may not know 'diddle'! Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ = Ted Bleiman K9MDM -just tired MDM Radio Ltd 1629-B N. 31 st Ave Melrose Park, IL 60160 708.681.0300 fax 708.681.9800 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] web http://www.mdmradio.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] inline fuse holders
You might also check your local car audio shops. They carry some pretty Beefy screw together inline cartridge fuse holders and fuses for these 800 watt and higher car audio systems. Some of these holders are made to accommodate that # 2 welding cable that the kids use to run power back to the rear mounted amplifier bays in their vehicles. I use a similar ones of these from the big Astron power supplies to the final amplifiers in repeaters. The larger cartridge fuse and holder has more surface area, stiffer spring tension, and less probability of voltage drop under continuous high current than your smaller 1/4 Buss fuses and holders. Ron Rogers -WB8ERB- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 10:11 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] inline fuse holders On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 01:06:30 -0500 Rod Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: With that said, and we want to install fuses in the grounds of existing radios without the fuses, is there a favorite fuse holder for in-line use? I've never seen a 3AG style in-line fuseholder like comes with most radios as a stand-alone purchasable item. It usually comes with a short (most times inadequate) length of wire out each end, already crimped to the buttons or clamps used for contact to the fuses. Check your electrical wholesaler; once stumbled on a nice one -- rubberized, linked, ribbed cover ends (adjustable length can't get lost) with ready-to-crimp contacts for 14ga or so; price wasn't so bad. mfgr was maybe BUSS or TRON ?? R Scott Gilmore N8BQN Saginaw MI USA Give a man a fish, and he'll eat for a day. Give him the internet, and he'll leave you alone for weeks. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] inline fuse holders
http://www.painlesswiring.com Anything and everything automotive electrical.. Reasonable prices, outstanding customer service... mike At 10:56 AM 01/08/2004 -0500, you wrote: You might also check your local car audio shops. They carry some pretty Beefy screw together inline cartridge fuse holders and fuses for these 800 watt and higher car audio systems. Some of these holders are made to accommodate that # 2 welding cable that the kids use to run power back to the rear mounted amplifier bays in their vehicles. I use a similar ones of these from the big Astron power supplies to the final amplifiers in repeaters. The larger cartridge fuse and holder has more surface area, stiffer spring tension, and less probability of voltage drop under continuous high current than your smaller 1/4 Buss fuses and holders. Ron Rogers -WB8ERB- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 10:11 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] inline fuse holders On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 01:06:30 -0500 Rod Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: With that said, and we want to install fuses in the grounds of existing radios without the fuses, is there a favorite fuse holder for in-line use? I've never seen a 3AG style in-line fuseholder like comes with most radios as a stand-alone purchasable item. It usually comes with a short (most times inadequate) length of wire out each end, already crimped to the buttons or clamps used for contact to the fuses. Check your electrical wholesaler; once stumbled on a nice one -- rubberized, linked, ribbed cover ends (adjustable length can't get lost) with ready-to-crimp contacts for 14ga or so; price wasn't so bad. mfgr was maybe BUSS or TRON ?? R Scott Gilmore N8BQN Saginaw MI USA Give a man a fish, and he'll eat for a day. Give him the internet, and he'll leave you alone for weeks. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ - Mike PerrymanCavell, Mertz Davis, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Consulting Engineers http://www.cmdconsulting.com 7839 Ashton Avenue K5JMPManassas, VA 20109 USA (703) 392-9090; (703) 392-9559 fax; DC Line (202) 332-0110 - Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] inline fuse holders
The guys looking for a quality fuseholder.Newark Electronics has them in their catalogs. Mrf: Cooper/Bussmann, try Bussmann HFA ,rated 20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newark Part number 28F043. Holds regular 3AG and the quality is very good. I have used them for years. Newark Electronics may not sell to you because it is a small quanity order and a minimum charge may apply. Check out their web site http://www.newark.com. Hope this helps To the guys that suggested dental floss, rubber band, small o rings to be used on tuning slugs. Very good ideas, thank you. I was close but no gold ring, hi. Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fiberglass rod
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 09:01:52 -0500, Rogers, Ron wrote: The rods I have gotten from them before seem to be on the order of G10 Fiberglass which is fairly workable, at least for 1/4 tools and tuning shafts. I'm sure they will work just fine Ron. I just ordered 10x 5 foot rods, and the shipping was almost as much as the rods themselves..that's what you get for living North of the boarder. and install a small radio control knob on the end for nice torque. Now there's a novel idea. I've got a whole box full of old knobs and I think some are designed for a 1/8 shaft.thanks! When tweaking those TX-RX trimmers is mandatory to use a tool containing no metal whatsoever. Agreed. Some of those adjustments go off with just the presents of metal NEAR them. If anyone up here in Canada needs a foot or two of this rod, let me know. No markup, just whatever it cost me plus shipping to you. Tedd Doda, VE3TJD Lazer Audio and Electronics Baden, Ontario, Canada Way to go Matt! (NASCAR #17) Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] CSC CWID 51A
Anyone have the hookup information on this antique? Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Identify this antenna manufacturer
At 12:44 PM 1/8/2004 -0500, you wrote: Looks like a DB-201 that is missing the radial kit... see attached PDF and tell me if you agree.. ---I disagree. Aside from the fact there is no plate through which the radiator extends (using that fast-becoming-infamous Hy-Gain style insulator) and the fact the J part of radiator extends below that plate, IMHO the antenna in question looks nothing like a ground plane... Of course your mileage may vary Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Our new Repeater Audio Delay (RAD) board is now shipping! Compatible with many controllers! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Identify this antenna manufacturer
Yes sir! I guess space would be a problem on a list server. Won't happen again. mike At 11:00 AM 01/08/2004 -0800, you wrote: Please don't send email messages to the list that have 900K attachments. Paul, kb9wlc Mike Perryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like a DB-201 that is missing the radial kit... see attached PDF and tell me if you agree.. mike Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - Mike Perryman Cavell, Mertz Davis, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Consulting Engineers http://www.cmdconsulting.com 7839 Ashton Avenue K5JMP Manassas, VA 20109 USA (703) 392-9090; (703) 392-9559 fax; DC Line (202) 332-0110 - Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Identify this antenna manufacturer
Both Butternut and Hy-Gain made j-pole arrays for VHF and UHF. It's hard to tell from the picture - does it appear to be ham-grade construction or something more significant? -Original Message- From: Mike Perryman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 12:44 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Identify this antenna manufacturer Looks like a DB-201 that is missing the radial kit... see attached PDF and tell me if you agree.. mike At 04:07 AM 01/08/2004 +, you wrote: Replaced a commercial antenna with electrical characteristics of a Decibel DB-224 or Celwave PD-340, four dipole array. Elements are much larger in diameter, only 3/4 of a folded dipole. Bottom counterpoise is only a stright stick instead of a fold. Took the antenna apart and have picture on this web site: http://www.w4dex.com/ant.htm Who made this thing and how old is it? Trying to find more information about it to satisfy my mind. Thanks, Derek KC4FWC - Mike PerrymanCavell, Mertz Davis, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Consulting Engineers http://www.cmdconsulting.com 7839 Ashton Avenue K5JMPManassas, VA 20109 USA (703) 392-9090; (703) 392-9559 fax; DC Line (202) 332-0110 - Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater- Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fuses on power cords
My bet would be that the black wire fuse is there for positive ground vehicles, a vestige of times past. In that case, the black (negative) wire is hot, and you would need the fuse there. Bob U. AA6BT That is one reason, but the other is for the times you go directly to the battery with the negative lead. If the wire from the battery for the normal car's electrical system comes loose , the pathe for all the car's negative return is from the coax or frame of the radio to the black wire of the rig going to the battery. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Seems like a lot of extra work when compared to a cheap and easy radio link. Why the wire? 73,Lee - Original Message - From: W3GFD [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 12:24 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] I am looking for about 3500 feet of surplus 4 pair direct burial telephone cable for a remote base project. The 4 pairs is a minimum. If anyone knows of any at a real good price please let me know. Thanks for your help. W3GFD Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Find a telephone company storage yard and steal it. Or if you are not that adventurous, or just plain out of shape... You can get CAT-5 Shielded Twisted pair. But you will need to splice it your self, And I think the longest you can get it is 1000 feet. And look to spend $80 to $150 per box times 4. And then you have to worry about line loss, ground loops and lightning strikes, Oh and did I mention what happens when some one inadvertently digs it up? A cheaper and often overlooked alternative is using 2 pairs of modified 2.4 GHz Wavecom wireless video links. These provide 1 video path plus 2 audio channels and you could send 15 kHz Cue Tone down the video line to signal COS and PTT back and forth, and the audio bandwidth is sufficient (50Hz to 15kHz) to pass PL tones or straight discriminator audio. Or if you are really psycho, you could send the 455 kHz Second IF of the RX down the video line. Going into 2 coffee cans for antennas it should make 3500 feet easy, and it should cost about $100 - $150 for both pairs, depending where you get them. And they can run on 12 volt battery power, Ideal for solar applications. --Matt Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fiberglass rod
The red stuff is called glastic in the power distribution world, fiberglass impregnated plastic - it has a very nice dielectric value and is installed in most power distribution transformers around the connection lugs. I see it in 1/4 flat format, I imagine it must be available in other forms like round dowel rods. -- 73...Clark Beckman N8PZD Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Identify this antenna manufacturer
If you are looking for a name it was folded monopole 20 some years ago, no gain but wide banded and durable in high winds - most coast guard stations use these. Mike Perryman wrote: Looks like a DB-201 that is missing the radial kit... see attached PDF and tell me if you agree.. mike At 04:07 AM 01/08/2004 +, you wrote: Replaced a commercial antenna with electrical characteristics of a Decibel DB-224 or Celwave PD-340, four dipole array. Elements are much larger in diameter, only 3/4 of a folded dipole. Bottom counterpoise is only a stright stick instead of a fold. Took the antenna apart and have picture on this web site: http://www.w4dex.com/ant.htm Who made this thing and how old is it? Trying to find more information about it to satisfy my mind. Thanks, Derek KC4FWC - Mike PerrymanCavell, Mertz Davis, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Consulting Engineers http://www.cmdconsulting.com 7839 Ashton Avenue K5JMPManassas, VA 20109 USA (703) 392-9090; (703) 392-9559 fax; DC Line (202) 332-0110 - Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Name: DB-201.pdf DB-201.pdfType: Acrobat (application/pdf) Encoding: base64 -- 73...Clark Beckman N8PZD Pursuant to U.S. Code, title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, ß227, Any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee of $500.00 U.S.. E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Find a telephone company storage yard and steal it. Nice approach You can get CAT-5 Shielded Twisted pair. But you will need to splice it your self, And I think the longest you can get it is 1000 feet. And look to spend $80 to $150 per box times 4. And then you have to worry about line loss, ground loops and lightning strikes, Oh and did I mention what happens when some one inadvertently digs it up? Not the right choice for your application at all, don't waste your time burying that stuff that far. If you are going to push audio that far on the cable you will likely need to do some conditioning on it, if you are interested in just dc control voltages, that's much easier. I pay .13 a foot for 3 pair Cat3 direct burial phone cable, you can probably find a better price on 3000' worth. It has a heavy poly jacket and a copper shield for rodent protection and shielding. For splicing you can easily use 3M scotchloks, they pinch together with pliers and are gel filled to keep any moisture out. There is a wonderful splice box made by Klick-it. It is yellow plastic, and comes in two halves. After you splice the conductors and bond the shields together, you press the two gel filled halves together until they click and you are set for direct burial. N7HQR Daron J. Wilson, RCDD ) ) Telecom Manager ( ( LH Morris Electric, Inc. ) ) (541) 265-8067 office _|| mmm! (541) 265-7652 fax ( || coffee! (541) 270-5886 cellular \|| [EMAIL PROTECTED]|| Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Identify this antenna manufacturer
Intriguingmakes me think of a jpole but the dimensions are not right. I also thought of the unity ground plane antennas that are folded on the vertical element as well. (dc grounded) The construction looks like that of cushcraft or hy-gain...but then I am but a relative newbie and pale in the experience most of this group. 73, Jon KD5SFA - Original Message - From: Derek B. McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 10:07 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Identify this antenna manufacturer Replaced a commercial antenna with electrical characteristics of a Decibel DB-224 or Celwave PD-340, four dipole array. Elements are much larger in diameter, only 3/4 of a folded dipole. Bottom counterpoise is only a stright stick instead of a fold. Took the antenna apart and have picture on this web site: http://www.w4dex.com/ant.htm Who made this thing and how old is it? Trying to find more information about it to satisfy my mind. Thanks, Derek KC4FWC Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/6/2004 Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] FREE 330 watt GE AMP
I'm in Baltimore, what's next? Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
