[Repeater-Builder] Morse Code Contest on JAY LENO

2005-05-13 Thread Don
I thought some would find this interesting.


-

Tomorrow, Friday May 13th, the Tonight Show with Jay Leno will feature
a message sending/receiving contest between a cell phone text
messaging team and a Morse code team.

The Morse code team will consist of Chip Margelli K7JA and Ken Miller
K6CTW.

Chip and Ken do a lot of contests and DXpeditions.  Joe Drago, props
manager for the show is KF6OCP.

This should result in some excellent PR for ham radio.


73 De Don KA9QJG








 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: CWID

2005-05-13 Thread Gary
Larry,
You might want to check out the ID-O-MATIC that is sold by N0AXS.  
This little Kit will run you about $20 bucks and works like a champ!

Look up N0AXS or ID-O-MATIC on your search engine and he has a 
website where you can get this kit and other really neat items for 
repeaters!

I use this for an ID'er on one of my repeaters and it works as good 
as any of the $500 controllers that I have!

73's and Happy Hamming
Gary - W5GNB



--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bob Dengler [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 At 5/4/2005 06:26 AM, you wrote:
 Just was wondering what cwid is available new or used.  I am in 
need of a 
 cwid for one of my repeaters.  I normally use the hamtronics diode 
matrix 
 unit but they do not have them any more.  I have a RPT10 on the 
air that 
 needs some identification so if anyone knows of one for sale or 
has any 
 ideas please let me know.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 WA0VUS
 Larry Kemper
 Muscatine, Iowa
 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Not the easiest way, but definitely the cheapest: use K1EL's K-ID 
PIC: $8 
 shipped.  The hard part is adding:
 
 -trigger  timing circuitry so it sends the ID every 10 minutes but 
only 
 while the repeater's in use
 
 -audio filter to clean up the square wave output.
 
 I've built a small interface board for my latest portapeater that 
uses the 
 K-ID chip.  I'm not 100% happy with the result as I was space  
time 
 constrained (had to fit within the multi-freq. area in the G.E. MVP 
 only 
 had a few weeks to design, build  test), but it does work.  I can 
e-mail 
 you the schematic if you like  can even show you the result (will 
be 
 spending the Monday after Dayton in the Quad Cities area).
 
 Bob NO6B








 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Caution on Bomar Crystals

2005-05-13 Thread Kevin Custer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I stand corrected.

I just confirmed this by calling Bomar. They do have a $60.00 minumum, but 
that includes the shipping so 2 channel elements in most cases will meet the 
minimum.

Steve
WA6ZFT


Their Land Mobile pricing can be seen here:
http://www.bomarcrystal.com/home3.html

They make crystals for $10 each.

Unless it has recently been changed,  BOMAR charges a $50 minimum, which 
isn't stated on their website, and if asked about can be forgone.

YMMV,
Kevin




 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Desense

2005-05-13 Thread Kevin Custer
Eric Lemmon wrote:

The most recent instance was with a Cushcraft ARX-270 2m/440 antenna.


I tried one of these antennas first as a low profile repeater antenna, 
then as a remote base antenna.  I was so disappointed with it that I 
took it down and threw it in the trash.  Yes it was brand new.  That 
antenna will never bother me or anyone else again.  I'm not a big fan of 
Cushcraft antennas anyway, but whoever designed the ARX-270 didn't have 
a clue

Repeater Builder is currently vending a dual band antenna that works 
well in duplex service.  We'll have several at Dayton, with a special 
show price.
Scott and I have installed several for non critical ham repeater duty 
and are very pleased with their performance so far.

Kevin




 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaking of Dayton...

2005-05-13 Thread Kevin Custer
no6b1 wrote:

I'll be wearing a bright orange LA Marathon Communications hat, or if
the sun's out, a drab green floppy hat,  LA Marathon T-shirt.  Will
be on my portapeater (147.585 in/144.93 out, PL-141.3), Dave K.'s, or
Kevin's if he brings one again  doesn't sell it while I'm still using
it  ;)

Bob NO6B
  


Repeater Builder will be hosting 3 repeaters for Dayton:
146.625 minus 600 kHz, PL 123.0  (Micor Mobile conversion)
224.960 minus 1.6 MHz, PL 123.0  (Micor Mobile conversion)
443.250 plus 5 MHz, PL 123.0 (Mastr II mobile conversion)

Frequencies of these repeaters are subject to change depending on 
availability locally in Dayton.

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Desense

2005-05-13 Thread no6b1
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Custer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Eric Lemmon wrote:
 
 The most recent instance was with a Cushcraft ARX-270 2m/440 antenna.
 
 
 I tried one of these antennas first as a low profile repeater antenna, 
 then as a remote base antenna.  I was so disappointed with it that I 
 took it down and threw it in the trash.  Yes it was brand new.  That 
 antenna will never bother me or anyone else again.  I'm not a big
fan of 
 Cushcraft antennas anyway, but whoever designed the ARX-270 didn't have 
 a clue

Was that the antenna that was on your 146.625 Dayton repeater 2 years
ago?  I always wondered why it wasn't full quieting at the opposite
end of the flea market while my portapeater on a mag. mount across the
street was solid everywhere.

Bob NO6B






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Desense

2005-05-13 Thread Dave VanHorn


Repeater Builder is currently vending a dual band antenna that works
well in duplex service.  We'll have several at Dayton, with a special
show price.
Scott and I have installed several for non critical ham repeater duty
and are very pleased with their performance so far.

I won't be able to attend, but I'm interested.
Where do I find out more?





 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: CWID

2005-05-13 Thread Mike Besemer \(WM4B\)
Dang, that ID-O-MATIC is so cool I ordered one on-the-spot!  I have NO idea
what I'll do with it, but that's beside the point!

-- de WM4B
Mike
Kathleen, GA
146.25/85

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 11:44 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: CWID

Larry,
You might want to check out the ID-O-MATIC that is sold by N0AXS.  
This little Kit will run you about $20 bucks and works like a champ!

Look up N0AXS or ID-O-MATIC on your search engine and he has a 
website where you can get this kit and other really neat items for 
repeaters!

I use this for an ID'er on one of my repeaters and it works as good 
as any of the $500 controllers that I have!

73's and Happy Hamming
Gary - W5GNB



--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bob Dengler [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 At 5/4/2005 06:26 AM, you wrote:
 Just was wondering what cwid is available new or used.  I am in 
need of a 
 cwid for one of my repeaters.  I normally use the hamtronics diode 
matrix 
 unit but they do not have them any more.  I have a RPT10 on the 
air that 
 needs some identification so if anyone knows of one for sale or 
has any 
 ideas please let me know.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 WA0VUS
 Larry Kemper
 Muscatine, Iowa
 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Not the easiest way, but definitely the cheapest: use K1EL's K-ID 
PIC: $8 
 shipped.  The hard part is adding:
 
 -trigger  timing circuitry so it sends the ID every 10 minutes but 
only 
 while the repeater's in use
 
 -audio filter to clean up the square wave output.
 
 I've built a small interface board for my latest portapeater that 
uses the 
 K-ID chip.  I'm not 100% happy with the result as I was space  
time 
 constrained (had to fit within the multi-freq. area in the G.E. MVP 
 only 
 had a few weeks to design, build  test), but it does work.  I can 
e-mail 
 you the schematic if you like  can even show you the result (will 
be 
 spending the Monday after Dayton in the Quad Cities area).
 
 Bob NO6B








 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Desense

2005-05-13 Thread rtoplus
I am interested as well Kevin.

Bob, GMRS WPVV845, Amateur KG4WAD, LMRS WPXC892


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dave VanHorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
 
 Repeater Builder is currently vending a dual band antenna that works
 well in duplex service.  We'll have several at Dayton, with a 
special
 show price.
 Scott and I have installed several for non critical ham repeater 
duty
 and are very pleased with their performance so far.
 
 I won't be able to attend, but I'm interested.
 Where do I find out more?






 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: CWID

2005-05-13 Thread no6b1
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Larry,
 You might want to check out the ID-O-MATIC that is sold by N0AXS.  
 This little Kit will run you about $20 bucks and works like a champ!
 

Nice.  Like the K1EL K-ID PIC but with the activity timer.  Wish I had
known about this one a month ago.

 Look up N0AXS or ID-O-MATIC on your search engine and he has a 
 website where you can get this kit and other really neat items for 
 repeaters!

www.hamgadgets.com

 
 I use this for an ID'er on one of my repeaters and it works as good 
 as any of the $500 controllers that I have!

Just be careful with that square wave output.  I built an 800 Hz BPF
for the output of the K-ID; I'll post the schematic in a separate message.

Bob NO6B






 
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[Repeater-Builder] Dayton

2005-05-13 Thread ka2ajh
 Hi Kevin:

What spaces will Repeater Builder be at this year at Dayton?
Looking forward to stopping by again this year.

73 JIM   KA2AJH


 Kevin Custer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Eric Lemmon wrote:
 
 The most recent instance was with a Cushcraft ARX-270 2m/440 antenna.
 
 
 I tried one of these antennas first as a low profile repeater antenna, 
 then as a remote base antenna.  I was so disappointed with it that I 
 took it down and threw it in the trash.  Yes it was brand new.  That 
 antenna will never bother me or anyone else again.  I'm not a big fan of 
 Cushcraft antennas anyway, but whoever designed the ARX-270 didn't have 
 a clue
 
 Repeater Builder is currently vending a dual band antenna that works 
 well in duplex service.  We'll have several at Dayton, with a special 
 show price.
 Scott and I have installed several for non critical ham repeater duty 
 and are very pleased with their performance so far.
 
 Kevin
 
 
 
 
  
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: CWID

2005-05-13 Thread no6b
Here's the 800 Hz BPF for the square wave outputs of the K-ID  ID-O-MATIC 
PIC IDers.

Bob NO6B



 
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attachment: 800 Hz BPF.png

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: CWID

2005-05-13 Thread Mike
Anyone figure out any information on this? i could not find anything at all


- Original Message - 
From: Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 11:44 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: CWID


 Larry,
 You might want to check out the ID-O-MATIC that is sold by N0AXS.  
 This little Kit will run you about $20 bucks and works like a champ!
 
 Look up N0AXS or ID-O-MATIC on your search engine and he has a 
 website where you can get this kit and other really neat items for 
 repeaters!
 
 I use this for an ID'er on one of my repeaters and it works as good 
 as any of the $500 controllers that I have!
 
 73's and Happy Hamming
 Gary - W5GNB






 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: CWID

2005-05-13 Thread C Wayne Schuler
Try again. It worked for me.
Or go direct to their website.. http://www.hamgadgets.com/index.php
Wayne, AI9Q


-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 4:33 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: CWID

Anyone figure out any information on this? i could not find anything at all


- Original Message - 
From: Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 11:44 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: CWID


 Larry,
 You might want to check out the ID-O-MATIC that is sold by N0AXS.  
 This little Kit will run you about $20 bucks and works like a champ!
 
 Look up N0AXS or ID-O-MATIC on your search engine and he has a 
 website where you can get this kit and other really neat items for 
 repeaters!
 
 I use this for an ID'er on one of my repeaters and it works as good 
 as any of the $500 controllers that I have!
 
 73's and Happy Hamming
 Gary - W5GNB






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: CWID

2005-05-13 Thread Larry Kemper
Guys
I did order the ID-O-Matic and installed it.  The only thing is such trash
with square wave output so built a little audio filter to smooth things out.
That is more pleasant to listen too.  Yes cw can be pleasant.. Also
users who complained of no beep now have it.

Thanks

WA0VUS
Larry Kemper
Muscatine, Iowa

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: CWID

2005-05-13 Thread C Wayne Schuler
Can you document the changes for us?
Wayne, ai9q


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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Kemper
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 8:57 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: CWID

Guys
I did order the ID-O-Matic and installed it.  The only thing is such trash
with square wave output so built a little audio filter to smooth things out.
That is more pleasant to listen too.  Yes cw can be pleasant.. Also
users who complained of no beep now have it.

Thanks

WA0VUS
Larry Kemper
Muscatine, Iowa

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Desense

2005-05-13 Thread Scott Zimmerman
List Stand-By..

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
612 Barnett Rd
Boswell, PA 15531

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From: rtoplus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 9:50 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Desense


 I am interested as well Kevin.
 
 Bob, GMRS WPVV845, Amateur KG4WAD, LMRS WPXC892
 
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dave VanHorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  
  
  Repeater Builder is currently vending a dual band antenna that works
  well in duplex service.  We'll have several at Dayton, with a 
 special
  show price.
  Scott and I have installed several for non critical ham repeater 
 duty
  and are very pleased with their performance so far.
  
  I won't be able to attend, but I'm interested.
  Where do I find out more?
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Morse Code Contest on JAY LENO

2005-05-13 Thread Benjamin Naber
Jay Leno is/was a ham...




--- Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I thought some would find this interesting.
 
 
 -
 
 Tomorrow, Friday May 13th, the Tonight Show with Jay
 Leno will feature
 a message sending/receiving contest between a cell
 phone text
 messaging team and a Morse code team.
 
 The Morse code team will consist of Chip Margelli
 K7JA and Ken Miller
 K6CTW.
 
 Chip and Ken do a lot of contests and DXpeditions. 
 Joe Drago, props
 manager for the show is KF6OCP.
 
 This should result in some excellent PR for ham
 radio.
 
 
 73 De Don KA9QJG
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 
 
 

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Morse Code Contest on JAY LENO

2005-05-13 Thread Buley, Kenneth L \(GE Consumer Industrial\)
Still is, just not radio related..;)

Kenneth Buley
Bullitt County EMA Deputy Director CD-2
Bullitt/Spencer Counties Red Cross ECRV Driver/Operator BC-6
Bullitt County ARES/RACES Coordinator KY4DES 

Dante once said that the hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in 
a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality.

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Jay Leno is/was a ham...











 
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[Repeater-Builder]

2005-05-13 Thread NØATH





Hello Kevin or Eric ? Any luck yet on telling me 
what pin to ground on the mastr II mobile Icon
to get the transmitter to operate on channel 
1.
I feel like I've been 
forgotten.
It is an 8 channel 100 watt vhf mobile - I have 
sent the numbers you requested. I think they are
correct.

Dave / NØATH













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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Di-Electric Grease

2005-05-13 Thread Jim B.
The proper thing to use is the PTFE Teflon lube that comes with the 
antenna. At least it's supposed to come with new antennas...
It looks like silicon, but it's not. Silicon grease has been found not 
to be completely UV stable.

-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL



n8sac wrote:

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
CRC have recently introduced Di-Electric grease for reducing / 
stopping corrosion and water ingress in connectors.  Anyone tried
 
 it 
 at 
 
RF?  Any good?  Any problems.

Regards
Vaughan ZL1TGC





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton

2005-05-13 Thread Scott Zimmerman
Our Spaces will be the usual 707-710 that we have had for the past few
years.

I will be sending an e-mail early next week with the products we will have,
pricing, quantities available, final repeater frequencies, etc. I will try
to make it one page or less so you can all print it out and bring it with
you to the show.

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
612 Barnett Rd
Boswell, PA 15531

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Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 10:21 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton


 Hi Kevin:

 What spaces will Repeater Builder be at this year at Dayton?
 Looking forward to stopping by again this year.

 73 JIM   KA2AJH


  Kevin Custer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Eric Lemmon wrote:
 
  The most recent instance was with a Cushcraft ARX-270 2m/440 antenna.
  
 
  I tried one of these antennas first as a low profile repeater antenna,
  then as a remote base antenna.  I was so disappointed with it that I
  took it down and threw it in the trash.  Yes it was brand new.  That
  antenna will never bother me or anyone else again.  I'm not a big fan of
  Cushcraft antennas anyway, but whoever designed the ARX-270 didn't have
  a clue
 
  Repeater Builder is currently vending a dual band antenna that works
  well in duplex service.  We'll have several at Dayton, with a special
  show price.
  Scott and I have installed several for non critical ham repeater duty
  and are very pleased with their performance so far.
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Di-Electric Grease

2005-05-13 Thread Micheal Salem







I may have missed part of this discussion, but if the grease is put in
the 
connector or under black tape, how is it exposed to UV sunlight so that

it will destabilize? 

My understanding about silicon grease is that it can change the
dielectric 
constant of the connector. I have used silicon grease in the connector

and the antenna would not tune until it was cleaned out. 

I also understand that over time that silicon grease will "creep", that
is, 
it will move between the metal to metal connection of the connector 
and form a thin insulating layer. 

Micheal Salem N5MS
Norman, Oklahoma 



Jim B. wrote:

  The proper thing to use is the PTFE Teflon lube that comes with the 
antenna. At least it's supposed to come with new antennas...
It looks like silicon, but it's not. Silicon grease has been found not 
to be completely UV stable.

  















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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater-Builder antennas and other products

2005-05-13 Thread Jamey Wright
Scott, I don't see the antennas link.

Jamey Wright
Systems Analyst
Morgan County EMCD 911
Decatur, Al
256-552-0911


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All,

Check out this page:
www.repeater-builder.com/products

Click on the antennas link

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater-Builder antennas and other products

2005-05-13 Thread KD5SFA
http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/antennas.html

-Original Message-
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All,

Check out this page:
www.repeater-builder.com/products

Click on the antennas link

Scott

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Morse Code Contest on JAY LENO

2005-05-13 Thread JOHN MACKEY
What is/was Jay Leno's callsign?

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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Morse Code Contest on JAY LENO

 Jay Leno is/was a ham...
 
 
 
 
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  Tomorrow, Friday May 13th, the Tonight Show with Jay
  Leno will feature
  a message sending/receiving contest between a cell
  phone text
  messaging team and a Morse code team.
  
  The Morse code team will consist of Chip Margelli
  K7JA and Ken Miller
  K6CTW.
  
  Chip and Ken do a lot of contests and DXpeditions. 
  Joe Drago, props
  manager for the show is KF6OCP.
  
  This should result in some excellent PR for ham
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: CWID

2005-05-13 Thread Jim B.
Mike wrote:
 Anyone figure out any information on this? i could not find anything
 at all

Here's the URL:

http://www.hamgadgets.com/product_info.php?products_id=64

-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL


 
 - Original Message - From: Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
 Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 11:44
 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: CWID
 
 
 
 Larry, You might want to check out the ID-O-MATIC that is sold by
 N0AXS. This little Kit will run you about $20 bucks and works like
 a champ!
 
 Look up N0AXS or ID-O-MATIC on your search engine and he has a 
 website where you can get this kit and other really neat items for
  repeaters!
 
 I use this for an ID'er on one of my repeaters and it works as good
  as any of the $500 controllers that I have!
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] uhf Micor 450-470 lowering freq.

2005-05-13 Thread Jim B.
brucenanney wrote:

 How far can you move a micor 450-470 down? I moved one to 444.000 Mhz. 
 I put a 6pf cap. across L101 on Rx to increase sensativty. I need to 
 tune one to 442.675 on Rx, Not worried about Tx. Bruce, KD4BOH.

I've had one down to abt 438-something. Without mods, it was hearing abt 
  .8 or .9 uV, so I would think a simple rework of the front end 
helicals would bring it in line. 442 should not be much of an issue.

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Morse Code Contest on JAY LENO

2005-05-13 Thread Don Pomplun




apology accepted ;=)
Morse Code is no longer ham radio related
73,
Don
K2BIO
PS Jay doesn't show up on QRZ, but maybe that's not his real
name.

At 01:54 PM 5/13/2005 -0500, you wrote:
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Refrain from this in the Future , it was not My intent to offend
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater-Builder antennas and other products

2005-05-13 Thread Dave VanHorn
At 01:22 PM 5/13/2005, Scott Zimmerman wrote:
All,

Check out this page:
www.repeater-builder.com/products

Click on the antennas link

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater-Builder antennas and other products

2005-05-13 Thread Dave VanHorn
At 01:39 PM 5/13/2005, KD5SFA wrote:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/antennas.html

Ah!  The SECRET antennas link.!

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater-Builder antennas and other products

2005-05-13 Thread Scott Zimmerman
Nope, Just me after a long week getting ready for Dayton. Try it again
please...

http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/antennas.html

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
612 Barnett Rd
Boswell, PA 15531

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[Repeater-Builder] Motorola phone patch model L1159A

2005-05-13 Thread Coy Hilton
Does anyone have a book or wiring schematic for this thing. Is there 
any programming required? How well do they work? Any information 
will be great.
Thanks 
AC0Y






 
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[Repeater-Builder] looking for L1475 uhf amps

2005-05-13 Thread Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio



We need 2 -6 uhf 450-470 mhz of these littel convertacom amps.
a.s.a.p.. if you find a couple at Dayton let me know a.s.a.p. we'll take them
Not going for the first time in 36 years. enuf is enuf.
Been ' Soaked ' in Dayton for the last time
have fun to all youmisguided soles who are going to attend.

I'll be in St louis watching my nephew graduate from Wash U.

73

MDM ted








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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater-Builder antennas and other products

2005-05-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
One thing I've never been able to explain to people is: Why do the big Celwave, 
Sinclair, etc. StationMaster type antennas have only 5.2 dB gain? Actually, 
the 2-meter range ones are listed as typically having only 4.8 dB gain, after 
putting the longer, lower-frequency elements in the 22' long or so radome. 

The typical 5/8 wave mobile antennas have 3 dB gain, some of the ham-grade 
antennas claim 7-8 (and even 10 dB gain). I occasionally get asked, why do you 
use one of those expensive, low-gain Sinclair, Celwave, etc. antennas instead 
of Hustlers, Diamonds, etc that have so much more gain? Even the big Scala OG-4 
2-Meter antennas are 4 dB gain, if I remember correctly.

I've always been at a loss to explain, but having tried some of these amateur 
antennas, I see quite a performance difference (for the better, of course) when 
I go back to using the real commercial-grade antennas.

I'm sure there must be something simple that I'm overlooking.

LJ



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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater-Builder antennas and other  products

Nope, Just me after a long week getting ready for Dayton. Try it again
please...

http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/antennas.html

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
612 Barnett Rd
Boswell, PA 15531

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton Repeaters, past and present.

2005-05-13 Thread Kevin Custer






no6b1 wrote:

  
whoever designed the ARX-270 didn't have a clue

  
  
Was that the antenna that was on your 146.625 Dayton repeater 2 years
ago?  I always wondered why it wasn't full quieting at the opposite
end of the flea market while my portapeater on a mag. mount across the
street was solid everywhere.

Bob NO6B


Hi Bob,

No it wasn't, but it wasn't the antennas fault anyway. I was running a
PC Board (very lossy) duplexer and only exciter power that year and I
didn't have very good results. Last year we had a Micor Mobile
conversion with one of my Hack-Saw 10 watt amplifiers running into a
WP-639 (real) duplexer. The antenna last year was a home-brew 5/8 wave
ground plane (2M only) Had check-ins from 35 miles out.

I am going to attempt to run my Comet SBB-224 (tri band, 2M 220, and
440) mobile antenna and CFX-324 triplexer for the Hamvention
repeaters. If this doesn't work, I'll do something else, likely
install one of our new dual banders. I know they'll work, but not for
220 obviously.

To conserve precious battery power, the 220 repeater will only run
exciter power (400 mW) as this repeaters main objective is to locally
display the new ICS Single M controller.

The 2M and 440 machines are open for anyone to use. 
Again, Repeater Builder will be hosting 3 repeaters for Dayton:

146.625 minus 600 kHz, PL 123.0
224.960 minus 1.6 MHz, PL 123.0
443.250 plus 5 MHz, PL 123.0

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[Repeater-Builder] (unknown)

2005-05-13 Thread Coy Hilton
It's Pin 8 of the exciter connector It took me about 10 seconds to 
look at the label inside a near by MASTRII. The label is not 
registered with the pins, so Count from left to right starting with 
the first pin on the left. If you really need to Know what pin on 
the ICOM it is just use your trusty OHM meter. I would tell you but 
I don't Know which ICOM or Which Exciter you have.
73
AC0Y 


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, NØATH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Kevin or Eric ? Any luck yet on telling me what pin to 
ground on the mastr II mobile Icon
  to get the transmitter to operate on channel 1.
 I feel like I've been forgotten.
 It is an 8 channel 100 watt vhf mobile - I have sent the numbers 
you requested. I think they are
 correct.
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater-Builder antennas and other products

2005-05-13 Thread Russ
It is all in the rating.
The big guys use DBD (the way to go)
Many Ham grade antennas use DBi
or the new fake or made up DBC
Stick with DBD you will never go wrong!
If you note QST will not print an antenna gain unless
it is in DBD.
73 Russ,

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Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater-Builder antennas and other products


 One thing I've never been able to explain to people is: Why do the big
Celwave, Sinclair, etc. StationMaster type antennas have only 5.2 dB gain?
Actually, the 2-meter range ones are listed as typically having only 4.8 dB
gain, after putting the longer, lower-frequency elements in the 22' long or
so radome.

 The typical 5/8 wave mobile antennas have 3 dB gain, some of the
ham-grade antennas claim 7-8 (and even 10 dB gain). I occasionally get
asked, why do you use one of those expensive, low-gain Sinclair, Celwave,
etc. antennas instead of Hustlers, Diamonds, etc that have so much more
gain? Even the big Scala OG-4 2-Meter antennas are 4 dB gain, if I remember
correctly.

 I've always been at a loss to explain, but having tried some of these
amateur antennas, I see quite a performance difference (for the better, of
course) when I go back to using the real commercial-grade antennas.

 I'm sure there must be something simple that I'm overlooking.

 LJ



 -Original Message-
 From: Scott Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: May 13, 2005 1:45 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater-Builder antennas and other
products

 Nope, Just me after a long week getting ready for Dayton. Try it again
 please...

 http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/antennas.html

 Scott

 Scott Zimmerman
 Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
 612 Barnett Rd
 Boswell, PA 15531

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 Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 3:24 PM
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products


  At 01:39 PM 5/13/2005, KD5SFA wrote:
  http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/antennas.html
 
  Ah!  The SECRET antennas link.!
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Morse Code Contest on JAY LENO

2005-05-13 Thread Russ





For some of us CW is a very big part of 
Ham Radio!

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  Pomplun 
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  Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 2:58 PM
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Morse 
  Code Contest on JAY LENO
  apology accepted 
  ;=)Morse Code is no longer ham radio 
  related73,DonK2BIOPS Jay doesn't show up on QRZ, 
  but maybe that's not his real name.At 01:54 PM 
  5/13/2005 -0500, you wrote:
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[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Micom SSB 100 Mobile Radio Manual

2005-05-13 Thread jimrvm
This is off base for repeaters BUT I'm looking for a manual for the 
Motorola Micom SSB 100 mobile HF radio to finish off a local Red
Cross 
project. I need to see the dip switch \ diode setup to get more than
1 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater-Builder antennas and other products

2005-05-13 Thread NØATH
Anytime I ever questioned this I was always told  The Antenna gain is always 
set by the advertising department.
I think that must be fairly close to correct.
Dave / 

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Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater-Builder antennas and other products


It is all in the rating.
The big guys use DBD (the way to go)
Many Ham grade antennas use DBi
or the new fake or made up DBC
Stick with DBD you will never go wrong!
If you note QST will not print an antenna gain unless
it is in DBD.
73 Russ,

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater-Builder antennas and other products


 One thing I've never been able to explain to people is: Why do the big
Celwave, Sinclair, etc. StationMaster type antennas have only 5.2 dB gain?
Actually, the 2-meter range ones are listed as typically having only 4.8 dB
gain, after putting the longer, lower-frequency elements in the 22' long or
so radome.

 The typical 5/8 wave mobile antennas have 3 dB gain, some of the
ham-grade antennas claim 7-8 (and even 10 dB gain). I occasionally get
asked, why do you use one of those expensive, low-gain Sinclair, Celwave,
etc. antennas instead of Hustlers, Diamonds, etc that have so much more
gain? Even the big Scala OG-4 2-Meter antennas are 4 dB gain, if I remember
correctly.

 I've always been at a loss to explain, but having tried some of these
amateur antennas, I see quite a performance difference (for the better, of
course) when I go back to using the real commercial-grade antennas.

 I'm sure there must be something simple that I'm overlooking.

 LJ



 -Original Message-
 From: Scott Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: May 13, 2005 1:45 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater-Builder antennas and other
products

 Nope, Just me after a long week getting ready for Dayton. Try it again
 please...

 http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/antennas.html

 Scott

 Scott Zimmerman
 Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
 612 Barnett Rd
 Boswell, PA 15531

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 Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 3:24 PM
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  At 01:39 PM 5/13/2005, KD5SFA wrote:
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  Ah!  The SECRET antennas link.!
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] (unknown)mastr II exciter

2005-05-13 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Has the exciter been aligned? You'll get no RF output if it is way out of 
alignment.

Chuck
WB2EDV



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From: NØATH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] (unknown)mastr II exciter


Ok  Thanks All - I have Pin 8 grounded to the Icon ( was already  according 
to Simpson 260) The
control head has been removed - We do have a GE test set hooked up with good 
microphone. The vol.
and squelch controls are inside the chassis like the NHRC. We are grounding 
pin 25 for ptt and it kills
 the spkr but no RF output. - Same occurrence with the remote microphone. We 
have two transmitter
strips that were both supposed to be from working radios. Same with either 
strip. I know there is a
( Friday 13th ) very small issue somewhere we have overlooked. We are 
working on this primarily to
learn a bit more about the Mastr II's and let me say - it is sure a learning 
experience as we have called on
brain cells that haven't been disturbed for over a quarter century. Dave  
Kenny's - GE Project
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Micom SSB 100 Mobile Radio Manual

2005-05-13 Thread Glenn Little WB4UIV
I will see if I still have a manual.

What frequencies are you using?

  I volunteer for the local Red Cross.

73
Glenn
WB4UIV

At 07:00 PM 05/13/05, you wrote:
This is off base for repeaters BUT I'm looking for a manual for the
Motorola Micom SSB 100 mobile HF radio to finish off a local Red
Cross
project. I need to see the dip switch \ diode setup to get more than
1
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[Repeater-Builder] Fwd: Motorola ID?

2005-05-13 Thread Budd Turner



Can anyone answer Dave's questions?
If so, please reply to his addy below.
Thanks
73
Buddk7iou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Do you have any way of ID this Motorola #?
C73RXB
Can it be converted to 220?
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fwd: Motorola ID?

2005-05-13 Thread Captainlance





110Watt Motorola transmitter, no receiver...150-170 
mhz. Similar to Micor . Lance N2HBA

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  ID?
  
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  Buddk7iou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Do you have any way of ID this Motorola 
#?
C73RXB
Can it be converted to 
220?
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Speaking of Dayton...

2005-05-13 Thread Mike Pugh


Bob wrote:

 I'll be the middle-aged white guy with a pot-belly and an HT on my
 belt...oh, and I may be wearing a baseball cap (thinning hair, dontcha
 know).

That should narrow it down to where you'd be one of several thousand 
there. :-) Mike





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater-Builder antennas and other products

2005-05-13 Thread Don Jennings KI0EO






My experience,
My first VHF repeater on a really big tower and I installed one of
those "high gain dual band base/repeater antennas."
Well static desense finally set in after a couple months, so I decided
to purchase a commercial grade DB products antenna for my ham repeater.
I think the ham antenna was spec'd at 7 db gain and the commercial
antenna was an honest 3db gain DB 222 I think.
Well, I had to finally take down the ham antenna before the new one
arrived, fiberglass was full of water, and so I mounted a quarter wave
mag mount
on top of the building at the base of the tower while I waited for the
new antenna to arrive in a few weeks.
Well the quarter wave antenna preformed almost as well as the dual band
up 175 ft higher.
When the new antenna arrived WOW, what an increase in performance.
One of the local ham guys (works at a Moto shop) had always preached
to me about commercial grade antennas and was he right.
Never again, I sigh every time I go work on some of the area ham
repeaters from the local ham clubs and see the antenna system.
The argument usually always gets down to, well it has higher gain. A
quick question of how do you check for desense and that
is where I usually stop talking, at that point it is useless.
So ham antennas for repeaters, been there did that, not doing it again.

Don KI0EO






NATH wrote:

  Anytime I ever questioned this I was always told " The Antenna gain is always set by the advertising department."
I think that must be fairly close to correct.
Dave / 

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Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater-Builder antennas and other products


It is all in the rating.
The big guys use DBD (the way to go)
Many Ham grade antennas use DBi
or the new fake or made up DBC
Stick with DBD you will never go wrong!
If you note QST will not print an antenna gain unless
it is in DBD.
73 Russ,

- Original Message - 
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater-Builder antennas and other products


  
  
One thing I've never been able to explain to people is: Why do the big

  
  Celwave, Sinclair, etc. "StationMaster" type antennas have only 5.2 dB gain?
Actually, the 2-meter range ones are listed as typically having only 4.8 dB
gain, after putting the longer, lower-frequency elements in the 22' long or
so radome.
  
  
The typical 5/8 wave mobile antennas have "3 dB gain", some of the

  
  "ham-grade" antennas claim 7-8 (and even 10 dB gain). I occasionally get
asked, why do you use one of those expensive, low-gain Sinclair, Celwave,
etc. antennas instead of Hustlers, Diamonds, etc that have so much more
gain? Even the big Scala OG-4 2-Meter antennas are 4 dB gain, if I remember
correctly.
  
  
I've always been at a loss to explain, but having tried some of these

  
  amateur antennas, I see quite a performance difference (for the better, of
course) when I go back to using the "real" commercial-grade antennas.
  
  
I'm sure there must be something simple that I'm overlooking.

LJ



-Original Message-
From: Scott Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: May 13, 2005 1:45 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater-Builder antennas and other

  
  products
  
  
Nope, Just me after a long week getting ready for Dayton. Try it again
please...

http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/antennas.html

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
612 Barnett Rd
Boswell, PA 15531

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Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 3:24 PM
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  At 01:39 PM 5/13/2005, KD5SFA wrote:
  
  
http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/antennas.html

  
  Ah!  The SECRET antennas link.!

Maybe that's why sales are down? :)






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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton Repeaters, past and present.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Speaking of Dayton...

2005-05-13 Thread Jim McLaughlin
Right!..and parked in the Salem Mall, standing next to the
car with the antennas and ham plates. That will surely narrow it down.

Jim WA9FPT
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 Bob wrote:

  I'll be the middle-aged white guy with a pot-belly and an HT on my
  belt...oh, and I may be wearing a baseball cap (thinning hair, dontcha
  know).

 That should narrow it down to where you'd be one of several thousand
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Speaking of Dayton...

2005-05-13 Thread Mike Pugh
Bet I can spot you a mile away! :-) Mike

Jim McLaughlin wrote:

 Right!..and parked in the Salem Mall, standing next to the
 car with the antennas and ham plates. That will surely narrow it down.
 
 Jim WA9FPT
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 Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 20:28 PM
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Bob wrote:


I'll be the middle-aged white guy with a pot-belly and an HT on my
belt...oh, and I may be wearing a baseball cap (thinning hair, dontcha
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That should narrow it down to where you'd be one of several thousand
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater-Builder antennas and other products

2005-05-13 Thread Ralph Mowery

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One thing I've never been able to explain to people
 is: Why do the big Celwave, Sinclair, etc.
 StationMaster type antennas have only 5.2 dB gain?
 Actually, the 2-meter range ones are listed as
 typically having only 4.8 dB gain, after putting the
 longer, lower-frequency elements in the 22' long or
 so radome. 
 
 The typical 5/8 wave mobile antennas have 3 dB
 gain, some of the ham-grade antennas claim 7-8
 (and even 10 dB gain). I occasionally get asked, why
 do you use one of those expensive, low-gain
 Sinclair, Celwave, etc. antennas instead of
 Hustlers, Diamonds, etc that have so much more gain?
 Even the big Scala OG-4 2-Meter antennas are 4 dB
 gain, if I remember correctly.
 
 I've always been at a loss to explain, but having
 tried some of these amateur antennas, I see quite a
 performance difference (for the better, of course)
 when I go back to using the real commercial-grade
 antennas.
 
 I'm sure there must be something simple that I'm
 overlooking.
 
 LJ

It is all just advertising.  The comercial 4 to 6 db
gain antennas are refferanced to a dipole antenna. 
The 'ham' antennas are reffranced to isotropic, or 1/4
wave antennas or maybe a handy talkey rubber duck.
Many times the numbers just seem to be made up.
Just as you will see things advertised on TV that can
not hapen.  Just look at the car and truck comercials.
 Do you think they can do some of that if you were to
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: CWID

2005-05-13 Thread Eric Lemmon
The correct callsign is N 0 X A S.  The URL for the ID-O-MATIC Web site
is:

www.hamgadgets.com

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

Gary wrote:

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Re: [Repeater-Builder]

2005-05-13 Thread Ray Retzlaff





p902 pin 8 is for channel 1 TX
also
p903 pin 1 is for channel 1 RX

73
Ray


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  NØATH 
  To: Mastr II Group ; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 10:33 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 
  
  Hello Kevin or Eric ? Any luck yet on telling me 
  what pin to ground on the mastr II mobile Icon
  to get the transmitter to operate on 
  channel 1.
  I feel like I've been 
  forgotten.
  It is an 8 channel 100 watt vhf mobile - I have 
  sent the numbers you requested. I think they are
  correct.
  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Speaking of Dayton...

2005-05-13 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Or he'll be found at the closest buffet restaurant looking fat, dumpy, 
a little smelly wearing a baseball cap that says Icom or Yaesu and an HT on
his belt playing the antics from the local 94 (talk-in) repeater.

He'll be an easy find there.

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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Speaking of Dayton...

 Bet I can spot you a mile away! :-) Mike
 
 Jim McLaughlin wrote:
 
  Right!..and parked in the Salem Mall, standing next to
the
  car with the antennas and ham plates. That will surely narrow it down.
  
  Jim WA9FPT
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  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Speaking of Dayton...
  
  
  
 
 Bob wrote:
 
 
 I'll be the middle-aged white guy with a pot-belly and an HT on my
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater-Builder antennas and other products

2005-05-13 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Don-
Now tell everyone about your experiences with the 7.06 Spectrum ham grade
repeater!!

KS0F

-- Original Message --
Received: Fri, 13 May 2005 08:37:32 PM CDT
From: Don Jennings KI0EO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater-Builder antennas and other  products

 My experience,
  My first VHF repeater on a really big tower and I installed one of 
 those high gain dual band base/repeater antennas.
 Well static desense finally set in after a couple months, so I decided 
 to purchase a commercial grade DB products antenna for my ham repeater.
 I think the ham antenna was spec'd at 7 db gain and the commercial 
 antenna was an honest 3db gain DB 222 I think.
 Well, I had to finally take down the ham antenna before the new one 
 arrived, fiberglass was full of water, and so I mounted a quarter wave 
 mag mount
 on top of the building at the base of the tower while I waited for the 
 new antenna to arrive in a few weeks.
 Well the quarter wave antenna preformed almost as well as the dual band 
 up 175 ft higher.
 When the new antenna arrived WOW, what an increase in performance.
  One of the local ham guys (works at a Moto shop) had always preached to 
 me about commercial grade antennas and was he right.
 Never again, I sigh every time I go work on some of the area ham 
 repeaters from the local ham clubs and see the antenna system.
 The argument usually always gets down to, well it has higher gain. A 
 quick question of how do you check for desense and that
 is where I usually stop talking, at that point it is useless.
 So ham antennas for repeaters, been there did that, not doing it again.
 
 Don   KI0EO
 
 
 
 
 
 
 NØATH wrote:
 
 Anytime I ever questioned this I was always told  The Antenna gain is
always set by the advertising department.
 I think that must be fairly close to correct.
 Dave / 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 5:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater-Builder antennas and other
products
 
 
 It is all in the rating.
 The big guys use DBD (the way to go)
 Many Ham grade antennas use DBi
 or the new fake or made up DBC
 Stick with DBD you will never go wrong!
 If you note QST will not print an antenna gain unless
 it is in DBD.
 73 Russ,
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 5:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater-Builder antennas and other
products
 
 
   
 
 One thing I've never been able to explain to people is: Why do the big
 
 
 Celwave, Sinclair, etc. StationMaster type antennas have only 5.2 dB
gain?
 Actually, the 2-meter range ones are listed as typically having only 4.8
dB
 gain, after putting the longer, lower-frequency elements in the 22' long
or
 so radome.
   
 
 The typical 5/8 wave mobile antennas have 3 dB gain, some of the
 
 
 ham-grade antennas claim 7-8 (and even 10 dB gain). I occasionally get
 asked, why do you use one of those expensive, low-gain Sinclair, Celwave,
 etc. antennas instead of Hustlers, Diamonds, etc that have so much more
 gain? Even the big Scala OG-4 2-Meter antennas are 4 dB gain, if I
remember
 correctly.
   
 
 I've always been at a loss to explain, but having tried some of these
 
 
 amateur antennas, I see quite a performance difference (for the better, of
 course) when I go back to using the real commercial-grade antennas.
   
 
 I'm sure there must be something simple that I'm overlooking.
 
 LJ
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Scott Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: May 13, 2005 1:45 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater-Builder antennas and other
 
 
 products
   
 
 Nope, Just me after a long week getting ready for Dayton. Try it again
 please...
 
 http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/antennas.html
 
 Scott
 
 Scott Zimmerman
 Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
 612 Barnett Rd
 Boswell, PA 15531
 
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Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 3:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater-Builder antennas and other
 
 
 products
   
 
 
 
 At 01:39 PM 5/13/2005, KD5SFA wrote:
   
 
 http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/antennas.html
 
 
 Ah!  The SECRET antennas link.!
 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-228 Mounting Bracket

2005-05-13 Thread Lloyd Mitchell
Wow, One phone call to a /\/\ dealer and he had one in the way on a 
shelf, he sez... Great guy he is...  Complete with the standoffs for 
the top and bottom to prevent sway!!!

Thanks to all who suggested a fix...(I still dont know how far from 
the tower the dipoles will be BUT I'll know next week)

Thanks all


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Michael Shaffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Hi Lloyd,
 
  For the two meter db products antennas, I use their
 db5001 side mounting kit. 
 
 snipMike N8RQU
 
 
 --- Lloyd M. Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I have a DB228E that I want to mount on a 300ft
  tower.  
  The antenna is resonant at the VHF freq that we have
  allocated for a 2 meter repeater.
   
  My question is...How far from the tower face should
  the dipoles be?  I dont have the 228 mounting
  bracket and will have to fabricate them at a machine
  shop IF the standard bracket for a 224 is not the
  standard bracket.
   
  Any one know the answer?
   
  Thanks
   
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Morse Code Contest on JAY LENO

2005-05-13 Thread Ronny
It is for these guys!  What a show!  I don't think those two kids had
a bit of a chance!

Did anyone roll tape on that?  A MPEG file uploaded would be really
appreciated if you did.



--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 For some of us CW is a very big part of Ham Radio!
   - Original Message - 
   From: Don Pomplun 
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 2:58 PM
   Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Morse Code Contest on JAY LENO
 
 
   apology accepted   ;=)
 
   Morse Code is no longer ham radio related
 
   73,
   Don
   K2BIO
 
   PS  Jay doesn't show up on QRZ, but maybe that's not his real name.
 
 
   At 01:54 PM 5/13/2005 -0500, you wrote:
 
 SORRY About the off Topic Non ham radio related post , I will
try and
 Refrain from this in the Future , it was not My intent to offend
anyone.
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater-Builder antennas and other products

2005-05-13 Thread no6b
At 18:54 5/13/2005 -0400, you wrote:
It is all in the rating.
The big guys use DBD (the way to go)
Many Ham grade antennas use DBi
or the new fake or made up DBC
Stick with DBD you will never go wrong!
If you note QST will not print an antenna gain unless
it is in DBD.
73 Russ,

I prefer dBi, but it really doesn't matter as long as the manufacturer 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: CW vs. TXT messaging

2005-05-13 Thread no6b
At 22:53 5/13/2005 -0500, you wrote:
YO - Cw Won on Jay Leno tonite

Dave / NØATH


You didn't put SPOILER ALERT in the subject for us poor West Coast slobs!

That's OK, now I don't have to stay up  watch.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: CW vs. TXT messaging

2005-05-13 Thread Ronny Julian
You should.  Roll tape on it for those of us at work who can't get a VCR 
hooked up in time!  I'd like to show that at a hamfest to recruit new hams!


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YO - Cw Won on Jay Leno tonite

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That's OK, now I don't have to stay up  watch.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder]

2005-05-13 Thread mch
And they were only going about 30 WPM. (Some contesters/DXers are much
faster. I'm sure they could, too, but I'm sure they knew they would have
time to spare and didn't want to go too fast with the added pressure.)

So, I guess The quick brown fox... is going to be replaced with I
just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance

Joe M.

 NØATH wrote:
 
 YO - Cw Won on Jay Leno tonite
 
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2005-05-13 Thread DCFluX
I have 49 invites for Gmail accounts avalible first come, first serve
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: CW vs. TXT messaging

2005-05-13 Thread Ronny Julian
Should be no problem with that.  It was in the contest segment.

Mike Morris wrote:

Where was it in the show?  After the monologue?
Half way through?  At the end?

i.e. can I get it with a 1 hour 3/4 tape or do I need
a 2 hour VHS ?

Mike WA6ILQ


At 09:00 PM 5/13/05, you wrote:

  

And they were only going about 30 WPM. (Some contesters/DXers are much
faster. I'm sure they could, too, but I'm sure they knew they would have
time to spare and didn't want to go too fast with the added pressure.)

So, I guess The quick brown fox... is going to be replaced with I
just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance

Joe M.



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YO - Cw Won on Jay Leno tonite

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Fwd: Motorola ID?

2005-05-13 Thread nj902
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ID this Motorola #? C73RXB
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C73RXB = 100 Watt Securenet [DVP] Base/Repeater station

Manual #: 68-81036E40

Conversion of the VHF Micor to 200 is on the Repeater Builder pages 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Morse Code Contest on JAY LENO

2005-05-13 Thread egrp_reader
I captured it, but it is 150Mbyte!  Sorry but I don't have any fancy
video authoring tools and figured if someone down the road needed it
smaller, they could redo it in lower resolution or quality.

If someone has the space for a large file like that, let me know.
Please don't ask me to email this to someone, it would probably
choke my email system.

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 It is for these guys!  What a show!  I don't think those two kids
had
 a bit of a chance!
 
 Did anyone roll tape on that?  A MPEG file uploaded would be really
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