RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Mobile TLD8262B10 Exciter Question
Trash? What the heck is ‘trash’? de WM4B From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n4...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 11:38 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Mobile TLD8262B10 Exciter Question Mike, Don't pitch em in the trash, I'll take em. Collin -Original Message- From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) mwbese...@cox.net mailto:mwbesemer%40cox.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 10:35 pm Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Mobile TLD8262B10 Exciter Question Guys, As I said in my previous post, I DID that. No joy. Mike WM4B -- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Don Kupferschmidt Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 10:33 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Mobile TLD8262B10 Exciter Question Mike, Take the advise that Skipp has given you. In one project I didn't heed the advise of others to preset the coils from the service manual and I was pulling my hair out for days trying to figure out why the exciter wouldn't tune up properly. Do like he says . . . . reset everything back to the chart indicated height position. Then use the manual to tune up the exciter. Trust me, (and others), the exciter *will* tune up properly UNLESS you have something else going on. 73, Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com mailto:skipp025%40yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March2015, 2009 8:57 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Mobile TLD8262B10 Exciter Question Based on my experience with radios like the Micor Mobile with the tx band-pass filter and the MSR-2000 exciter... the best way to tune up these units is to find the coil preset information in the Service Manual and start with reseting those items back to the chart indicated height position. Sure you can adjust some coils when moving the exciter small distances from the last operating frequency. But some coils are not simple peak or dip adjustments. They interact with the previous or trailing coil adjustments and should be adjusted per the manual only... re-tweaks just don't do it. In the process of tuning the exciter and related filters you'll sometimes see only slight meter movements as you step up through the chain/process. One stage adjustment of the MSR-2000 is really hard to see initial meter movement. A re-tweak of the exciter won't always show the mentioned small meter movements and it's sometimes very easy to adjust a stage to a wrong peak/dip. So start from scratch most every time. Be sure to use the coil position chart information provided in the manual or your results will surely vary. cheers, s. Mike Besemer \(WM4B\) mwbese...@... wrote: Not lookin' good for the home-team. I've got some reading at the meter plug pin 3, but L403 doesn't effect it at all. No indication at meter plug 4 at all. Guess I need to troubleshoot or scare up another exciter. Good thing this is a long-term project! 73, Mike WM4B From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 4:46 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Mobile TLD8262B10 Exciter Question Mike, Probably. The fact that you could receive the signal suggests that the exciter is working, but just has a very low output. Tuning should fix that. Most commercial-band VHF exciters will tune to 2m without modification, but that is not always the case. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer (WM4B) Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 1:30 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Mobile TLD8262B10 Exciter Question Eric, Got that. thanks. But the exciter is okay as-is (except for tuning), is that correct? Mike From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Kerchunk
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, retiredcss01 tommy...@... wrote: We have some on our repeater frequency, that just like to kerchunk the repeater to hear it come back or ID. Is there any way we can eliminate this annoying situation? I suspect that we may have an unlicensed individual with a 2meter radio. Thanks As someone already said it's not always a person kerchunking. I thought we had a kerchunker until I watched a spectrum analyzer tied to the repeater antenna. It turned out to be a little birdie traveling down the band every time a hospital pager was keyed after being off for a while and cooling down. It just happened they were using the same PL as our repeater. Funny thing, Captain Moto took that exciter and put it at another location across town with a different PL. It took another ham repeater group several years to figure out why the kerchunker had moved to their frequency. 73 And good luck Wayne
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk
If you start to worry about the kerchunkers your going to drive yourself crazy. I've had several repeaters for years and have learned that the kerchunkers are usually someone who has just discovered your repeater and want to know how it covers an area. They'll drive around testing it in many areas. It usually goes away after a few days when they finish their testing. Other people just kerchunck the repeater to see if it's on the air, or that their radio is still working. As a repeater owner, you have to deal with many types of people and personalities. If you show that you are getting annoyed, the kerchunking can get worse. Many repeaters in my area have had problems with users, I haven't. The problem people usually go to a repeater where they get attention. I ignore them. 73, Joe, K1ike retiredcss01 wrote: We have some on our repeater frequency, that just like to kerchunk the repeater to hear it come back or ID. Is there any way we can eliminate this annoying situation? I suspect that we may have an unlicensed individual with a 2meter radio. Thanks
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk
I agree with all the comments. What I do is listen to the signal, usually there is a distinctive sound from the mike being squeezed or noise on the signal, I'm almost certain who my kerchunker is, as he has used my repeater before! On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Joe k1ike_m...@snet.net wrote: If you start to worry about the kerchunkers your going to drive yourself crazy. I've had several repeaters for years and have learned that the kerchunkers are usually someone who has just discovered your repeater and want to know how it covers an area. They'll drive around testing it in many areas. It usually goes away after a few days when they finish their testing. Other people just kerchunck the repeater to see if it's on the air, or that their radio is still working. As a repeater owner, you have to deal with many types of people and personalities. If you show that you are getting annoyed, the kerchunking can get worse. Many repeaters in my area have had problems with users, I haven't. The problem people usually go to a repeater where they get attention. I ignore them. 73, Joe, K1ike --- Ken
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 220 Repeater Power Amp
I second Skipp's motion, having been burned by Henry twice before, UHF amps delivered without a low pass filter, second harmonic about -40 dBc in the cell band... Also, TPL manufactures 220 amps (I had one, Adam N2ACF has it now), primarily for overseas markets. They use the same devices as in their UHF amps (MRF646's and MRF648's primarily). You'll probably have to call to find out availability in the US. --- Jeff Make sure you ask (at the time of the order) if the Amateur Band Amplifier you're buying includes the same type low pass filter supplied with the commercial RF deck. There's a historical reason why I make this comment... s. repeat...@... repeat...@... wrote: Henry Radio also makes 220 amplifiers. 1-800-877-7979 also give amateur discounts. Paul AA3VI No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1970 - Release Date: 03/15/09 14:07:00
[Repeater-Builder] MSR 2000 DC Transfer Question
Does anyone have a schematic for a TRN 5256A DC Transfer Module. I would like to remove this board from the backplane if possible for a new repeater I am building. Thank You
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 220 Repeater Power Amp
I wouldn't waste any time or money on Henry or TE Systems repeater amplifiers. On my 220 repeater, I had the Henry and it was the biggest POS I had ever seen. The workmanship with regard to the soldering of components was terrible. I've used one on my 440 machine and it was worse! I have been using the TPL that I received from Jeff without any issues, keyed down for hours. Just looking at the PA board in the TPL versus the Henry is enough to tell you why the Henrys fail. Spend the extra money once, it will be well worth it. Adam N2ACF Jeff DePolo wrote: I second Skipp's motion, having been burned by Henry twice before, UHF amps delivered without a low pass filter, second harmonic about -40 dBc in the cell band... Also, TPL manufactures 220 amps (I had one, Adam N2ACF has it now), primarily for overseas markets. They use the same devices as in their UHF amps (MRF646's and MRF648's primarily). You'll probably have to call to find out availability in the US. --- Jeff Make sure you ask (at the time of the order) if the Amateur Band Amplifier you're buying includes the same type low pass filter supplied with the commercial RF deck. There's a historical reason why I make this comment... s. repeat...@... repeat...@... wrote: Henry Radio also makes 220 amplifiers. 1-800-877-7979 also give amateur discounts. Paul AA3VI No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1970 - Release Date: 03/15/09 14:07:00 Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Kerchunk
We have some on our repeater frequency, that just like to kerchunk the repeater to hear it come back or ID. Is there any way we can eliminate this annoying situation? I suspect that we may have an unlicensed individual with a 2meter radio. This actually isn't technology, it's psychology. Consider this: A guy, either licensed or unlicensed, got himself a radio but doesn't have lots of reasons to get active, either because he does't know the crowd, is new, perhaps not licensed (yet!) or just because he wants to test access to the repeater. You and I, each with more than 20 years of experience, know what to expect; for someone new, this is cause of concern and something to explore. Asking for a report may be difficult - perhaps because he doesn't know the group of people that all seem to know eachother for years, perhaps he looks up to the user community, perhaps the license thing sits in the way. The easiest way to get what he wants, is just to kerchunk the repeater. So that's what he does. There are 4 things to do: 1. Make the kerchunk event as non-disruptive as possible. Make sure the repeater's response is there, but as non-intrusive as possible. My machines just have a 500 ms hangtime; if people kerchunk, they just hear the plop when they unkey, know that the repeater still works, and be done with it. Certainly, no roger beeps, bloops, ID's or significant hangtime. Just enough response to allow for testing and be done with it. (Dutch regulations allow me to periodically ID; hence, I don't need to make this dependent on user activity and, as you'd guessed, the ID thing is completely independent of activity, be it kerchunkers or regular users). 2. Believe it or not, make kerchunking easy. One of the machines I manage, used to have a speech detector. Kerchunkers, instead of quietly keying the microphone, were supposed to ID. They were supposed to, but what happened was that people would whistle, rub the grill of the microphone or do something else to circumvent the speech detector. When the machine got renovated, I removed this misfeature, allowing just plain carrier, and the user community picked it up quickly, supposedly because the other machines work like this. Again: kerchunking is going to happen. Make it easy, minimize it's impact, and make it a non-event and be done with it. 3. Don't talk about abuse issues. Never, ever, mention the kerchunker. This, and the rationale behind it, should be known to members of this group; check the abuse files for the reasons behind it. 4. Create a friendly, inviting environment where newcomers feel themselves welcome. With luck, the kerchunker(s) will join the community and become a valuable addition to your user group. I know this has happened several times on my machines, and I do consider this a feature. 73, Geert Jan PE1HZG janitor, PI3EHV, PI2EHV, PI6EHN, PI8EHV
[Repeater-Builder] Radio Interfacing to Dictaphone
Trying to interface both transmit and receive audio from a base radio to a Dictaphone so both sides of the conversation are recorded, the radio is a CDM 1250 Mobile. My thoughts are I need some type of line level mixer with 2inputs for the radio side and 1 out to the Dictaphone. What are you using? tom (\__/) ... (='.'=) ()_()
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Kerchunk
I agree with this - example being that there's a repeater that's fairly distant to me (easily managable from the house, but quite difficult from a car until I'm about 10 miles closer to it than I am at home). There's also 2 repeaters that are really distant and can vary depending on conditions. All 3 of these repeaters operate as mentioned here - If I key up and let go, there's a tiny bit of carrier as I unkey. If the carrier's too badly broken, I don't give my call, as it wouldn't make it in anyway and would just be plain annoying. One of these repeaters needs a fairly long over before it actually opens fully and IDs itself. New users (including myself at one point) find this annoying, thinking that it's not working. I still forget occasionally to length my call by giving it in phonetics, and have to re-do it to make it long enough to open the repeater. The local UHF repeater opens fully at any 1750Hz tone or CTCSS on the input, which means someone kerchunking it, or not making it in fully, results in 10-15 seconds silent carrier and the full ID every time (It's nearly 2KHz off frequency too, but that's just it's age!). By comparison, the last repeater round here to not have CTCSS is a complete pig to open - deliberate or otherwise - and this results in virtually zero use. Geert Jan de Groot wrote: We have some on our repeater frequency, that just like to kerchunk the repeater to hear it come back or ID. Is there any way we can eliminate this annoying situation? I suspect that we may have an unlicensed individual with a 2meter radio. This actually isn't technology, it's psychology. Consider this: A guy, either licensed or unlicensed, got himself a radio but doesn't have lots of reasons to get active, either because he does't know the crowd, is new, perhaps not licensed (yet!) or just because he wants to test access to the repeater. You and I, each with more than 20 years of experience, know what to expect; for someone new, this is cause of concern and something to explore. Asking for a report may be difficult - perhaps because he doesn't know the group of people that all seem to know eachother for years, perhaps he looks up to the user community, perhaps the license thing sits in the way. The easiest way to get what he wants, is just to kerchunk the repeater. So that's what he does. There are 4 things to do: 1. Make the kerchunk event as non-disruptive as possible. Make sure the repeater's response is there, but as non-intrusive as possible. My machines just have a 500 ms hangtime; if people kerchunk, they just hear the plop when they unkey, know that the repeater still works, and be done with it. Certainly, no roger beeps, bloops, ID's or significant hangtime. Just enough response to allow for testing and be done with it. (Dutch regulations allow me to periodically ID; hence, I don't need to make this dependent on user activity and, as you'd guessed, the ID thing is completely independent of activity, be it kerchunkers or regular users). 2. Believe it or not, make kerchunking easy. One of the machines I manage, used to have a speech detector. Kerchunkers, instead of quietly keying the microphone, were supposed to ID. They were supposed to, but what happened was that people would whistle, rub the grill of the microphone or do something else to circumvent the speech detector. When the machine got renovated, I removed this misfeature, allowing just plain carrier, and the user community picked it up quickly, supposedly because the other machines work like this. Again: kerchunking is going to happen. Make it easy, minimize it's impact, and make it a non-event and be done with it. 3. Don't talk about abuse issues. Never, ever, mention the kerchunker. This, and the rationale behind it, should be known to members of this group; check the abuse files for the reasons behind it. 4. Create a friendly, inviting environment where newcomers feel themselves welcome. With luck, the kerchunker(s) will join the community and become a valuable addition to your user group. I know this has happened several times on my machines, and I do consider this a feature. 73, Geert Jan PE1HZG janitor, PI3EHV, PI2EHV, PI6EHN, PI8EHV No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15/09 14:07:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk
At 05:13 3/16/2009, Joe wrote: If you start to worry about the kerchunkers your going to drive yourself crazy. I've had several repeaters for years and have learned that the kerchunkers are usually someone who has just discovered your repeater and want to know how it covers an area. I admit that on occasion I have thought of kerchunking because I check into several nets where I am at the limit of the repeater's coverage. I would kerchunk to see if I am in range or need to move a bit. I am attempting to take as little resource as possible. Would it be better for me to give my call, hope someone comes back, and ask for a signal report? -- Dave Gomberg, San Francisco NE5EE gomberg1 at wcf dot com All addresses, phones, etc. at http://www.wcf.com/ham/info.html -
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk
My thoughts would be... let it be. Do NOT let anybody know it may bother you. If they know it bothers you, they will keep doing it. As a long time ham I do kerchunk repeaters, especially my local one. Why? To check the status and cycle of the I.D. If the repeater has been inactive for a while, when it first transmits it sends its I.D. Since I don't want to be 'washed out' by the I.D., I kerchunk the repeater. Once the I.D. has finished, or the I.D. has not been sent, I will then put out my call to see if anybody's on the air. On the road, traveling... I will kerchunk a repeater to see if I can reach it. There's also the other side of the coin to this. You think kerchunking is bothersome? How bothersome is it to be mobile, you bring up a repeater, and you try to use it. You try several times putting your call out there. Several miles later, several attempts later, you discover your audio wasn't getting through. The repeater's ears weren't as good as its mouth. Give me kerchunking any day over that. 73, Kim - WG8S
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk
Legally, you should be identifying by giving your call. But, that is inviting a conversation with whoever hears you. One of the repeaters here has a ham who hangs around constantly. Sometimes I chose not to talk to him, but just want to check and see if the repeater is on the air and OK. (I help maintain the repeater). Yes, I am guilty of illegal kerchunking. An antikerchunk filter that shortens the repeater tail time can make things worse. The kerchunker does not hear the tail come back to him/her, so they keep on trying. All the other users hear many short bursts of carrier. Much more annoying than a single kerchunk. I actually like to hear kerchuncks. That means that there are users out there tuned to my repeaters. With so much dead air time on repeaters lately, it's nice to know there is someone home out there. When I hear a kerchunker I will usually key up and sign my call to see if they want to talk or get a signal report. Sometimes (alot) they don't come back to me. Maybe I too am one of those repeater trolls that no one wants to talk too! Oh well, such is life, I never built repeaters to win a popularity contest. 73, Joe, K1ike Dave Gomberg wrote: I admit that on occasion I have thought of kerchunking because I check into several nets where I am at the limit of the repeater's coverage. I would kerchunk to see if I am in range or need to move a bit. I am attempting to take as little resource as possible. Would it be better for me to give my call, hope someone comes back, and ask for a signal report?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk
Anyone listened to the latest Gordon West, WB6NOA audio CDs for the tech class license? Happened to sit it on a tech licensing class a couple months ago... If I recall correctly, the verbiage he (WB6NOA) used while demonstrating repeaters was first, we'll key it up to see if it's on... I'll have to grab that particular CD and listen to it over again - the 90+ minutes on just repeater operation tends to make me glaze over... If Gordo is teaching that kerchunking is OK :) And from a legal standpoint, 97.119(a) states ... at the end of each communication, and at least every ten minutes during a communication While a communication is not clearly defined in 97.3(a), it could be surmised that it would be in the course of a conversation in which two Amateurs exchange information for as long as the communication continues until that communication comes to a close. Reading very loosely between the lines, if one kerchunks the repeater 7 minutes before a net starts, and subsequently properly identifies during the net check in prior to the elapsed 10 minutes, they *could* be fulfilling the identification requirements set forth in 97.119(a). HOWEVER... It is likely not good amateur practice or etiquette to do so. On the flip side of it, I'm not going to send a FSD-213 for someone that occasionally kerchunks the repeater prior to making a contact or verifying their radio is programmed correctly. I will, however, continue to treat malicious interference as a prohibited act as defined (loosely) in 97.101(d). 73s, AJ, K6LOR/R On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Joe k1ike_m...@snet.net wrote: Legally, you should be identifying by giving your call. But, that is inviting a conversation with whoever hears you. One of the repeaters here has a ham who hangs around constantly. Sometimes I chose not to talk to him, but just want to check and see if the repeater is on the air and OK. (I help maintain the repeater). Yes, I am guilty of illegal kerchunking. An antikerchunk filter that shortens the repeater tail time can make things worse. The kerchunker does not hear the tail come back to him/her, so they keep on trying. All the other users hear many short bursts of carrier. Much more annoying than a single kerchunk. I actually like to hear kerchuncks. That means that there are users out there tuned to my repeaters. With so much dead air time on repeaters lately, it's nice to know there is someone home out there. When I hear a kerchunker I will usually key up and sign my call to see if they want to talk or get a signal report. Sometimes (alot) they don't come back to me. Maybe I too am one of those repeater trolls that no one wants to talk too! Oh well, such is life, I never built repeaters to win a popularity contest. 73, Joe, K1ike Dave Gomberg wrote: I admit that on occasion I have thought of kerchunking because I check into several nets where I am at the limit of the repeater's coverage. I would kerchunk to see if I am in range or need to move a bit. I am attempting to take as little resource as possible. Would it be better for me to give my call, hope someone comes back, and ask for a signal report?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk
When I make a transmission on a repeater that hasn't been used for a while, I state my intent and call sign, and the repeater ids after I let go of the PTT. I have made a legal transmission, I gain the information that the repeater has been dormant, AND I know that my transmission held the COR/CTCSS for the entire duration of my transmission. That tells me more that just hearing the hang time of a maybe partial reception of my signal. New hams learn by the example of existing hams. If you are making unidentified transmissions, they will make unidentified transmissions. whensle...@comcast.net wrote: My thoughts would be... let it be. Do NOT let anybody know it may bother you. If they know it bothers you, they will keep doing it. As a long time ham I do kerchunk repeaters, especially my local one. Why? To check the status and cycle of the I.D. If the repeater has been inactive for a while, when it first transmits it sends its I.D. Since I don't want to be 'washed out' by the I.D., I kerchunk the repeater. Once the I.D. has finished, or the I.D. has not been sent, I will then put out my call to see if anybody's on the air. On the road, traveling... I will kerchunk a repeater to see if I can reach it. There's also the other side of the coin to this. You think kerchunking is bothersome? How bothersome is it to be mobile, you bring up a repeater, and you try to use it. You try several times putting your call out there. Several miles later, several attempts later, you discover your audio wasn't getting through. The repeater's ears weren't as good as its mouth. Give me kerchunking any day over that. 73, Kim - WG8S
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk
Well said! de WM4B Mike Naruta AA8K a...@comcast.net wrote: When I make a transmission on a repeater that hasn't been used for a while, I state my intent and call sign, and the repeater ids after I let go of the PTT. I have made a legal transmission, I gain the information that the repeater has been dormant, AND I know that my transmission held the COR/CTCSS for the entire duration of my transmission. That tells me more that just hearing the hang time of a maybe partial reception of my signal. New hams learn by the example of existing hams. If you are making unidentified transmissions, they will make unidentified transmissions. whensle...@comcast.net wrote: My thoughts would be... let it be. Do NOT let anybody know it may bother you. If they know it bothers you, they will keep doing it. As a long time ham I do kerchunk repeaters, especially my local one. Why? To check the status and cycle of the I.D. If the repeater has been inactive for a while, when it first transmits it sends its I.D. Since I don't want to be 'washed out' by the I.D., I kerchunk the repeater. Once the I.D. has finished, or the I.D. has not been sent, I will then put out my call to see if anybody's on the air. On the road, traveling... I will kerchunk a repeater to see if I can reach it. There's also the other side of the coin to this. You think kerchunking is bothersome? How bothersome is it to be mobile, you bring up a repeater, and you try to use it. You try several times putting your call out there. Several miles later, several attempts later, you discover your audio wasn't getting through. The repeater's ears weren't as good as its mouth. Give me kerchunking any day over that. 73, Kim - WG8S
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Card needed - TLN1251A-Manual.
Eric, Thanks for posting this. Now I have 3 card numbers I can look for. Now if I could just find the cards. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 12:24 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Card needed - TLN1251A-Manual. Thanks to a private message from Chuck Kelsey, I finally located the tech data on the TLN1251A module. The reason why I could not find the modules in any recent Micor station manual is because those sheets were moved to the Micor Control and Application manual 68P81025E60-F shortly before the manuals were discontinued. The attached sheet is at the very end of the CA manual. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 5:34 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Card needed - TLN1251A-Manual. Steve, I went through more than a half-dozen Micor station manuals, and did not see the document you describe. Could you please be more specific as to which manuals contain the information about the TLN1251A module? 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 4:48 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Card needed - TLN1251A-Manual. Fortunately, the manual for these three cards (PL control, Repeater Control, and Squelch Control) is actually in most Micor station manuals. Not often in the Low Band, non-unified, but is in most manuals. Look for the above three names or options decoder. Its all the same board. I looked, and it was in 8 of the 10 station manuals I have... Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk
At 3/15/2009 22:15, you wrote: The duration-based anti-kerchunk filters are way more obnoxious than the kerchunkers IMHO, and they also block legitimate users who make quick calls. Not if it's implemented properly. A proper anti-kerchunk will key the repeater TX on any valid input activity but will suppress the hangtime unless the signal remains valid for a reasonable time period. That way the kerchunker doesn't see any response from the repeater. Bob NO6B
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk
Hi Kim, If the repeater has been inactive for a while, when it first transmits it sends its I.D.? Since I don't want to be 'washed out' by the I.D., I kerchunk the repeater.? Once the I.D. has finished, or the I.D. has not been sent, I will then put out my call to see if anybody's on the air. The?controller's software algorithm?can take care of that. Ours wait?for the end of the?initial transmission?before sending the ID.?If?you kerchunk, you'll hear an?ID. But if you?identify?yourself instead, you'll make only one?transmission -- and there won't be another ID if there are no subsequent key-ups. 73, Bob, WA9FBO S-COM, LLC www.scomcontrollers.com
[Repeater-Builder] Mastr Exec II question
A friend has a VHF rptr implemented using a GE Mastr Exec II mobile. The receiver is gone. Can I use a reciever form a straight MastrII mobile to replace it? Are they plug compatible? Thanks, Joe K1JC
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr Exec II question
No, a Mastr II receiver will not fit in an Exec II. While a lot of the circuitry is similiar between the two, mechanically they're different. --- Jeff WN3A -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of k1jcnh Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:11 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr Exec II question A friend has a VHF rptr implemented using a GE Mastr Exec II mobile. The receiver is gone. Can I use a reciever form a straight MastrII mobile to replace it? Are they plug compatible? Thanks, Joe K1JC No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1970 - Release Date: 03/16/09 07:04:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr Exec II question
Yes you can, all rf parts are interchangeable. IF/AUDIO is different but most parts themselves are the same. Mike KB5FLX - Original Message - From: k1jcnh To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:11 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr Exec II question A friend has a VHF rptr implemented using a GE Mastr Exec II mobile. The receiver is gone. Can I use a reciever form a straight MastrII mobile to replace it? Are they plug compatible? Thanks, Joe K1JC
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr Exec II question
I think Jeff was correct earlier, while the front end casting / helicals of the receivers are the same, the LO/ If / audio is mechanically different and are not plug compatible. 73 Don Kirchner W5DK From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Dietrich Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:38 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr Exec II question Yes you can, all rf parts are interchangeable. IF/AUDIO is different but most parts themselves are the same. Mike KB5FLX - Original Message - From: k1jcnh mailto:k...@comcast.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:11 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr Exec II question A friend has a VHF rptr implemented using a GE Mastr Exec II mobile. The receiver is gone. Can I use a reciever form a straight MastrII mobile to replace it? Are they plug compatible? Thanks, Joe K1JC
[Repeater-Builder] Kerchunk
Thanks for all the info on repeater kerchunking. I am convinced that it's one of those things that are best ignored. It's impossible to determine, like you say, whether it is a birdie, someother interference, or just someone checking to see if they have repeater coverage. Again, thanks for all the input. 73, Tom W5BLO
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk
We've successfully used the S-COM variant of this for years, here. anti-kerchunk set up correctly, works fine. (That is, it's NOT active until the repeater has been IN-active for quite a while.) The reality though is that it just trains the kerchunkers to do longer kerchunks. The problem doesn't really go away, but at least you know it's a valid signal (with CTCSS decode on at the repeater site), and it gives you a longer transmission to DF, if you're really interested and care. most of the time, no one does. Mixing the activation of the anti-kerchunk with a voice ID from the repeater at least gives the kerchunkers something to listen to, since the majority of them are licensed hams looking to see if they can hear the repeater. This seems to minimize CONTINUOUS kerchunking. they do it once, get a very long voice ID back, and they're satisfied. Some people are just morons who can't be bothered to take a moment to say their callsign once or even more politely, saying their callsign and testing, instead of just kerchunking illegally. You can't fix stupid. All you can do is set up your repeater controller to make being stupid, really annoying for the stupid guy. As someone else pointed out, if you build the repeater to act more like a commercial system with CTCSS only transmitted on real user input, no one hears the transmitter tail and kerchunks are really boring for anyone running CTCSS decode. you hear a click, and that's it. Kerchunkers are just a part of life when you run repeaters, basically. Nate From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Plack Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 11:16 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk The duration-based anti-kerchunk filters are way more obnoxious than the kerchunkers IMHO, and they also block legitimate users who make quick calls. 73, Paul, AE4KR
[Repeater-Builder] Re: PURC5000 Repeater Controller Interfacing?
I've been trying for the past 2 days to get my PURC5000 w/ Advanced Control to work with an RC-210 controller. I figured out the PTT, but it won't transmit any audio. All I'm getting is a dead carrier. So far, here's what I've done: RC-210PURC J2 ----- PTT--Ext Key Request (pin 9) GND--Logic Gnd (pin 7) and Analog Gnd (pins 1 2) TX Audio-Ext Aux Audio (pin 22) I've also tied 9.6V (pin 15) to Ext Mode Request (pin 24). My manual says to do this when you want to key analog audio. I've also tried tying TX Audio from RC-210 to Line 1 WIB (pin 25) instead of Ext Aux Audio, but still no dice. The weird part is that if I go into the service menu and tell it to key up and pass audio, it transmits properly. However when I try to call for PTT via J2, no audio. When I call for PTT via J2, I can look at the stats menu and see that it's calling for PTT for analog and not binary which appears correct. Any ideas where I can put TX audio and get it to transmit right? I've set up the menu items to call for local control. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jared --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, wb0vhb ran...@... wrote: Looking for someone who has successfully interfaced a repeater controller to a VHF PURC5000 with an Advanced Control. I'm attempting to use a Zetron Model 48B to encode PL tones. Need to know where to inject transmit audio and PL encode tones as well as PTT. Randy WB0VHB
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk
Your call + testing is fine. If a kerchunk is good enough for you to confirm that you have solid communications in the first place, just make the transmission legal and if someone replies, great. If they don't, fine too. I always reply to radio check requests that I have mine!, and when people say for ID I ask them what else they might be using their callsign for, and handle I tell them my handles are on the pots and pans in my kitchen, too... so I guess I'm turning into a repeater curmudgeon! (GRIN!) I do the above NICELY, of course... and have a real conversation with them anyway, tell 'em they sound fine, or that the wet noodle of a rubber duck that's on their HT just isn't going to cut it, or whatever... Nate WY0X -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave Gomberg Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk At 05:13 3/16/2009, Joe wrote: If you start to worry about the kerchunkers your going to drive yourself crazy. I've had several repeaters for years and have learned that the kerchunkers are usually someone who has just discovered your repeater and want to know how it covers an area. I admit that on occasion I have thought of kerchunking because I check into several nets where I am at the limit of the repeater's coverage. I would kerchunk to see if I am in range or need to move a bit. I am attempting to take as little resource as possible. Would it be better for me to give my call, hope someone comes back, and ask for a signal report? -- Dave Gomberg, San Francisco NE5EE gomberg1 at wcf dot com All addresses, phones, etc. at http://www.wcf.com/ham/info.html - Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk
The only thing I've found effective against kerchunkers if to DF them, then, after a club meeting, get a dozen guys to park in his neighborhood and kerchunk him on the output of the repeater... ;^) I remember in the early days of my 440 machine in Orlando, before it got discovered, it was so quiet I actually found myself looking forward to the first kerchunkers. I'd answer with, Who's the station calling? This is AE4KR, Orlando. I actually made a couple new friends that way. 73, Paul, AE4KR - Original Message - From: Nate Duehr To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:24 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk Your call + testing is fine. If a kerchunk is good enough for you to confirm that you have solid communications in the first place, just make the transmission legal and if someone replies, great. If they don't, fine too.
[Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR 820
I am not a Kenwood guy so thought I would throw out this question. I seem to recall that some Kenwood UHF repeaters would do ham split and some won't? FCC ID # ALH9TKTKR 820-1 Thanks, Ted W3VG
[Repeater-Builder] Andrews hard line help
Hello to the group ... I need to run some new 7/8 hard line and some 1/2 inch Question is there any info on installing the ends on both I did a google search and not luck any help would be great and also any special tools ? Thanks in advance .. Rick
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Andrews hard line help
There is an instruction sheet that comes with the new connectors, so you should be all set when you get them. No special tools required. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Rick Szajkowski To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:11 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Andrews hard line help Hello to the group ... I need to run some new 7/8 hard line and some 1/2 inch Question is there any info on installing the ends on both I did a google search and not luck any help would be great and also any special tools ? Thanks in advance .. Rick
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk
._,___ Well I will have to admit I have got a New ant Mobile and Base really did not feel like Talking to anyone but Just Kerchunked a Distant Repeater to see if I was getting into it, I also think this was done more because a Lot of Hams including Myself actually had a Hard time understand the Fast CW Id . I think it is done less now that We will hear a Voice Id On a lot of Repeaters including My 224.740 , But CW Voice on My 444.750 at about 7 WPM A min some of the Old CW Hams laugh and ask why is it so Slow and I say because I know what its lol PS Most have at least done it once you know who you are , and where in the Heck did this Word KERCHUNK Originate from We all know what it means Happy Repeater Building Don KA9QJG
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Andrews hard line help
no new ends :( all NOS) but no distructions ... so any and all help . I will go look at the ends and see if I can read part #'s On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Chuck Kelsey wb2...@roadrunner.com wrote: There is an instruction sheet that comes with the new connectors, so you should be all set when you get them. No special tools required. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - *From:* Rick Szajkowski va3r...@gmail.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2009 3:11 PM *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Andrews hard line help Hello to the group ... I need to run some new 7/8 hard line and some 1/2 inch Question is there any info on installing the ends on both I did a google search and not luck any help would be great and also any special tools ? Thanks in advance .. Rick
[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Rib
I am in need of the pin out connections for the RJ 45 to DB 25 cable used with a Motorola Rib I have searched the RB site but can't seem to find it. Thanks in advance.. Ralph, W7HSG
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Rib
Ralph it is Probably on this site somewhere if Not check here http://www.batlabs.com/ Hope that Helps Good Luck Don KA9QJG ___
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk
If you’re getting “washed out” by your repeater ID, you definitely bought the wrong controller or have it programmed wrong. :-) It shouldn’t be ID’ing as soon as it comes on the air, it should ID on the UNKEY event after the kerchunk. Some controllers are smart, some controllers are stupid… time to upgrade… Nate WY0X From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of whensle...@comcast.net Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:37 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk My thoughts would be... let it be. Do NOT let anybody know it may bother you. If they know it bothers you, they will keep doing it. As a long time ham I do kerchunk repeaters, especially my local one. Why? To check the status and cycle of the I.D. If the repeater has been inactive for a while, when it first transmits it sends its I.D. Since I don't want to be 'washed out' by the I.D., I kerchunk the repeater. Once the I.D. has finished, or the I.D. has not been sent, I will then put out my call to see if anybody's on the air. On the road, traveling... I will kerchunk a repeater to see if I can reach it. There's also the other side of the coin to this. You think kerchunking is bothersome? How bothersome is it to be mobile, you bring up a repeater, and you try to use it. You try several times putting your call out there. Several miles later, several attempts later, you discover your audio wasn't getting through. The repeater's ears weren't as good as its mouth. Give me kerchunking any day over that. 73, Kim - WG8S
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Andrews hard line help
Just checking here. they're usually INSIDE the little red white boxes that the connectors come in. Did you get those and/or have you looked inside real carefully? If they're really NOS, I'd think they'd still be in their boxes. Nate WY0X From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Szajkowski Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:25 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Andrews hard line help no new ends :( all NOS) but no distructions ... so any and all help . I will go look at the ends and see if I can read part #'s On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Chuck Kelsey wb2...@roadrunner.com wrote: There is an instruction sheet that comes with the new connectors, so you should be all set when you get them. No special tools required. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Rick Szajkowski mailto:va3r...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:11 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Andrews hard line help Hello to the group ... I need to run some new 7/8 hard line and some 1/2 inch Question is there any info on installing the ends on both I did a google search and not luck any help would be great and also any special tools ? Thanks in advance .. Rick
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk
Hi Don, and where in the Heck did this Word KERCHUNK Originate from We all know what it means Early tube-type?repeaters?used large relays?to key the transmitter. When someone keyed and unkeyed the repeater the result really was a loud?kerchunk at the site. It led to what we now call courtesy delays -- the idea being if there was another transmission soon after the first the transmitter would not have to drop and pick up again. It saved tubes as well as relays. 73, Bob, WA9FBO
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Andrews hard line help
OK, Google the Andrew site and there is likely a support section that may have installation instructions. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Rick Szajkowski To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Andrews hard line help no new ends :( all NOS) but no distructions ... so any and all help . I will go look at the ends and see if I can read part #'s On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Chuck Kelsey wb2...@roadrunner.com wrote: There is an instruction sheet that comes with the new connectors, so you should be all set when you get them. No special tools required. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Rick Szajkowski To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:11 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Andrews hard line help Hello to the group ... I need to run some new 7/8 hard line and some 1/2 inch Question is there any info on installing the ends on both I did a google search and not luck any help would be great and also any special tools ? Thanks in advance .. Rick
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Andrews hard line help
Try here. Looks like you can download info for all their connectors. http://awapps.commscope.com/catalog/andrew/product.aspx?id=46 Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Rick Szajkowski To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Andrews hard line help no new ends :( all NOS) but no distructions ... so any and all help . I will go look at the ends and see if I can read part #'s On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Chuck Kelsey wb2...@roadrunner.com wrote: There is an instruction sheet that comes with the new connectors, so you should be all set when you get them. No special tools required. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Rick Szajkowski To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:11 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Andrews hard line help Hello to the group ... I need to run some new 7/8 hard line and some 1/2 inch Question is there any info on installing the ends on both I did a google search and not luck any help would be great and also any special tools ? Thanks in advance .. Rick
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Mobile TLD8262B10 Exciter Question
Thats what I call things that have been relocated to my shack. Actually my trash is stuff. It changes names when it enters the shack. Collin -Original Message- From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) mwbese...@cox.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 6:00 am Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Mobile TLD8262B10 Exciter Question Trash? What the heck is ‘trash’? de WM4B From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n4...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 11:38 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Mobile TLD8262B10 Exciter Question Mike, Don't pitch em in the trash, I'll take em. Collin -Original Message- From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) mwbese...@cox.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 10:35 pm Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Mobile TLD8262B10 Exciter Question Guys, As I said in my previous post, I DID that. No joy. Mike WM4B -- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Kupferschmidt Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 10:33 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Mo bile TLD8262B10 Exciter Question Mike, Take the advise that Skipp has given you. In one project I didn't heed the advise of others to preset the coils from the service manual and I was pulling my hair out for days trying to figure out why the exciter wouldn't tune up properly. Do like he says . . . . reset everything back to the chart indicated height position. Then use the manual to tune up the exciter. Trust me, (and others), the exciter *will* tune up properly UNLESS you have something else going on. 73, Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March2015, 2009 8:57 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Mobile TLD8262B10 Exciter Question Based on my experience with radios like the Micor Mobile with the tx band-pass filter and the MSR-2000 exciter... the best way to tune up these units is to find the coil preset information in the Service Manual and start with reseting those items back to the chart indicated height position. Sure you can adjust some coils when moving the exciter small distances from the last operating frequency. But some coils are not simple peak or dip adjustments. They interact with the previous or trailing coil adjustments and should be adjusted per the manual only... re-tweaks just don't do it. In the process of tuning the exciter and related filters you'll sometimes see only slight meter movements as you step up through the chain/process. One stage adjustment of the MSR-2000 is really hard to see initial meter movement. A re-tweak of the exciter won't always show the mentioned small meter movements and it's sometimes very easy to adjust a stage to a wrong peak/dip. So start from scratch most every time. Be sure to use the coil position chart information provided in the manual or your results will surely vary. cheers, s. Mike Besemer \(WM4B\) mwbese...@... wrote: Not lookin' good for the home-team. I've got some reading at the meter plug pin 3, but L403 doesn't effect it at all. No indication at meter plug 4 at all. Guess I need to troubleshoot or scare up another exciter. Good thing this is a long-term project! 73, Mike WM4B From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 4:46 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Mobile TLD8262B10 Exciter Question Mike, Probably. The fact that you could receive the signal suggests that the exciter is working, but just has a very low output. Tuning should fix that. Most commercial-band VHF20exciters will tune to 2m without modification, but that is not always the case. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer (WM4B) Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 1:30 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Mobile TLD8262B10 Exciter Question Eric, Got that. thanks. But the exciter is okay as-is (except for tuning), is that correct? Mike From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 4:19 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE:
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Andrews hard line help
Rick, I have a pdf of installation instructions for the ring flare type connector. Let me know if you need. Collin -Original Message- From: Rick Szajkowski va3r...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 3:11 pm Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Andrews hard line help Hello to the group ... I need to run some new 7/8 hard line and some 1/2 inch Question is there any info on installing the ends on both I did a google search and not luck any help would be great and also any special tools ? Thanks in advance .. Rick
[Repeater-Builder] 220Mhz. 400W RF amplifier
ITT AM-6155 220Mhz. AMP. Completely modified and operating on 220 Mhz. Adjustable power output up t0 400 watts output with built-in 120v/240v AC internal power supply. With full documentation. $400.00 (firm) + frieght/insurance. (At 200w output, continuous repeater duty was very cool). Contact via email w...@tampabaybay.rr.com mailto:w...@tampabaybay.rr.com . Local pickup OK. Located in Tampa Bay, Florida area.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR 820
The TKR-820 you have will do 440 amateur with proper programming / tuning / realignment, no component changes needed. Andy -- NC Certified Firefighter III / EMT-A FCC Licensed Technician / Amateur Call NC4AB / Echolink Node 5761 http://www.brinkleyelectronics.com/ www.brinkleyelectronics.com _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ted Leonard Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:02 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR 820 I am not a Kenwood guy so thought I would throw out this question. I seem to recall that some Kenwood UHF repeaters would do ham split and some won't? FCC ID # ALH9TKTKR 820-1 Thanks, Ted W3VG
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr Exec II question
You could use MVP parts they are the same boards just have some pins coming out the bottom instead of the top. Or I could ship you one for $30.00 tom [Original Message] From: Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/16/2009 1:35:30 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr Exec II question No, a Mastr II receiver will not fit in an Exec II. While a lot of the circuitry is similiar between the two, mechanically they're different. --- Jeff WN3A -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of k1jcnh Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:11 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr Exec II question A friend has a VHF rptr implemented using a GE Mastr Exec II mobile. The receiver is gone. Can I use a reciever form a straight MastrII mobile to replace it? Are they plug compatible? Thanks, Joe K1JC No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1970 - Release Date: 03/16/09 07:04:00 Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Andrews hard line help
Hello to the group ... I need to run some new 7/8 hard line and some 1/2 inch Question is there any info on installing the ends on both I did a google search and not luck any help would be great and also any special tools ? It's easier if you have Andrew's tools (or whoever's), but you can get by with basic hand tools, especially after a little practice. However, the actual instructions vary with the type and series of connector. If you post (or direct e-mail) the model numbers for the connectors I can either tell you how to do it, or probably go pull the sheets out of new connectors and scan them. You can probably find installation instructions on Andrew's web site, but I don't know if they'll have the docs for anything other than current-vintage connectors. --- Jeff WN3A
[Repeater-Builder] DB224 parts orderable?
Hi guys and gals, I'm wondering if it is possible to order the dipole and coax kit for the Andrews/DB products DB224e minus the mast. No point in getting another mast and paying $XX is shipping. Thanks! 73, Aaron ka0zoz
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB224 parts orderable?
I do not believe that you can. You may, however, be able to do that with Telewave products (at least they did in the past). Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Aaron Sloan aa...@sixone.org To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 5:32 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DB224 parts orderable? Hi guys and gals, I'm wondering if it is possible to order the dipole and coax kit for the Andrews/DB products DB224e minus the mast. No point in getting another mast and paying $XX is shipping. Thanks! 73, Aaron ka0zoz
RE: [Repeater-Builder] 220Mhz. 400W RF amplifier
I am interested in this amplifier. But emails direct to you have been returned. -Mike From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of w4dg.geo Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:34 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 220Mhz. 400W RF amplifier ITT AM-6155 220Mhz. AMP. Completely modified and operating on 220 Mhz. Adjustable power output up t0 400 watts output with built-in 120v/240v AC internal power supply. With full documentation. $400.00 (firm) + frieght/insurance. (At 200w output, continuous repeater duty was very cool). Contact via email w...@tampabaybay.rr.com. Local pickup OK. Located in Tampa Bay, Florida area. __ NOD32 3937 (20090314) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Andrews hard line help
Rick Go to the files section and there is a file there Andrew bulletin 37383C.pdf that is the instruction sheet for connectors. Craig --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Rick Szajkowski va3r...@... wrote: Hello to the group ... I need to run some new 7/8 hard line and some 1/2 inch Question is there any info on installing the ends on both I did a google search and not luck any help would be great and also any special tools ? Thanks in advance .. Rick
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Kerchunk
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Nate Duehr n...@... wrote: If you're getting washed out by your repeater ID, you definitely bought the wrong controller or have it programmed wrong. :-) Or the ID level is simply too high... Laryn K8TVZ
[Repeater-Builder] quote for duplexers needed
Our county EMA office is going to purchase us a new set of duplexers for our repeater, but we need at least 2 quotes on a company letterhead. Can't find any ham dealers that sell them, anybody know a company that deals in duplexers?
[Repeater-Builder] HELP Midland 10 meter Z-273 program
Please I have a 10 meter band midland Radio, I need who can program the Z-273 module. Thanks Carlos Padro wp4mjp 787-379-0062
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Andrews hard line help
Rick Go to the files section and there is a file there Andrew bulletin 37383C.pdf that is the instruction sheet for connectors. Craig That sheet is for the early L4 series solder-type connectors; it may or may not be applicable to the original post since we don't know which connectors he has. It's definately not applicable for the 7/8th's. Andrew has come out with serveral different series of connectors since the days of the original L series (without a suffix). The L series connectors came out when LDF first came out, replacing the HSJ series. For exmaple, RingFlare, OnePiece, Posi-Stop, and EZfit are some of the newer series that come to mind. It would be best if the original poster listed which connectors he has on hand, and what kind of cable he has (for example, LDF5-50A isn't the same as LDF5-50B, and the connectors aren't interchangable either). --- Jeff WN3A
RE: [Repeater-Builder] IWCE 2009 Next Week
I am going to be there Skipp, hope meet you at the Kenwood boot. Juan Tellez, XE2SI From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of skipp025 Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 9:12 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] IWCE 2009 Next Week Re: IWCE 2009 If any of you plan to attend IWCE Las Vegas next week... I and the other nair do wells from the radiowrench world will be there at least on Wednesday. Like Brigadoon we appear at least once every (hundred) year(s) for certain events like IWCE and Dayton. If you're going to be there and would like to grip and grin with us please feel free to drop me a note (Email). No brauts (brats) for sale (at least worth eating) but they did have a pretty killer smoothy booth with very perty girls near the main entrance last year. Come see for yourself how many of the larger radios companies don't really support small two-way radio dealers (very well) anymore. Ops, didn't mean to say that... (well maybe I did actually). Hope to see some of you there... 10-4 and out chow for now skipp www.radiowrench.com __ Información de ESET Smart Security, versión de la base de firmas de virus %s __ ESET Smart Security ha comprobado este mensaje. http://www.eset.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] quote for duplexers needed
At 03:55 PM 3/16/2009, ww3s73 wrote: Our county EMA office is going to purchase us a new set of duplexers for our repeater, but we need at least 2 quotes on a company letterhead. Can't find any ham dealers that sell them, anybody know a company that deals in duplexers? ---We an authorized Telewave dealer. Send me mail offlist of your requirements Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!
RE: [Repeater-Builder] quote for duplexers needed
Should I be the bad guy and say it? *ALL* of the commercial distributors (re-)sell them. Now to make that answer more useful... who are the commercial distributors? Telewave's own sales folks should be able to find you about four metric tons of dealership names and phone numbers... http://www.telewave.com/sales.html I'd also be surprised if your county's radio shop didn't already have a dealer they like to use who provides them at a significant discount to government purchasers. Have you talked to them? Having the county purchaser make the request for quote on THEIR letterhead should garner at the VERY least, a 10-15% automatic discount from all the major distributors, as far as I've seen. People here will probably also reply with the 'big names' like Tessco and others. There are a few national dealers of all things RF related, but I'd start with the local shop and see where THEY order through, and who they trust... plus they may already have accounts there, and may also have authorization to purchase from them (due to contractual discount rates) that allow them to NOT have to have multiple quotes from multiple companies. You just never know... Hope that helps. Nate WY0X -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ww3s73 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:55 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] quote for duplexers needed Our county EMA office is going to purchase us a new set of duplexers for our repeater, but we need at least 2 quotes on a company letterhead. Can't find any ham dealers that sell them, anybody know a company that deals in duplexers?
RE: [Repeater-Builder] quote for duplexers needed
p.s. I can't figure out how I got the impression you were looking for a Telewave product. Did you say? Now I don't see it. Who's duplexers are you looking at? There's multiple vendors selling them these days, of different quality, of course. Many people seem to like TX-RX for brand new stuff, lately. Lots of used gear on the market that you'll NEVER be able to get a quote on, too... but will come in for you and your county's budget at 1/4 to 1/3 the price... Nate WY0X -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:15 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] quote for duplexers needed Should I be the bad guy and say it? *ALL* of the commercial distributors (re-)sell them. Now to make that answer more useful... who are the commercial distributors? Telewave's own sales folks should be able to find you about four metric tons of dealership names and phone numbers... http://www.telewave.com/sales.html I'd also be surprised if your county's radio shop didn't already have a dealer they like to use who provides them at a significant discount to government purchasers. Have you talked to them? Having the county purchaser make the request for quote on THEIR letterhead should garner at the VERY least, a 10-15% automatic discount from all the major distributors, as far as I've seen. People here will probably also reply with the 'big names' like Tessco and others. There are a few national dealers of all things RF related, but I'd start with the local shop and see where THEY order through, and who they trust... plus they may already have accounts there, and may also have authorization to purchase from them (due to contractual discount rates) that allow them to NOT have to have multiple quotes from multiple companies. You just never know... Hope that helps. Nate WY0X -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ww3s73 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:55 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] quote for duplexers needed Our county EMA office is going to purchase us a new set of duplexers for our repeater, but we need at least 2 quotes on a company letterhead. Can't find any ham dealers that sell them, anybody know a company that deals in duplexers? Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] quote for duplexers needed
p.p.s. Oh duh, it was Ken's reply. (Hi Ken.) You may want to look at Bird/TX-RX also... http://birdtechnologies.thomasnet.com/viewitems/all-categories-duplexers-and -triplexers/duplexers-2?forward=1 Nate WY0X -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:17 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] quote for duplexers needed p.s. I can't figure out how I got the impression you were looking for a Telewave product. Did you say? Now I don't see it. Who's duplexers are you looking at? There's multiple vendors selling them these days, of different quality, of course. Many people seem to like TX-RX for brand new stuff, lately. Lots of used gear on the market that you'll NEVER be able to get a quote on, too... but will come in for you and your county's budget at 1/4 to 1/3 the price... Nate WY0X -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:15 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] quote for duplexers needed Should I be the bad guy and say it? *ALL* of the commercial distributors (re-)sell them. Now to make that answer more useful... who are the commercial distributors? Telewave's own sales folks should be able to find you about four metric tons of dealership names and phone numbers... http://www.telewave.com/sales.html I'd also be surprised if your county's radio shop didn't already have a dealer they like to use who provides them at a significant discount to government purchasers. Have you talked to them? Having the county purchaser make the request for quote on THEIR letterhead should garner at the VERY least, a 10-15% automatic discount from all the major distributors, as far as I've seen. People here will probably also reply with the 'big names' like Tessco and others. There are a few national dealers of all things RF related, but I'd start with the local shop and see where THEY order through, and who they trust... plus they may already have accounts there, and may also have authorization to purchase from them (due to contractual discount rates) that allow them to NOT have to have multiple quotes from multiple companies. You just never know... Hope that helps. Nate WY0X -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ww3s73 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:55 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] quote for duplexers needed Our county EMA office is going to purchase us a new set of duplexers for our repeater, but we need at least 2 quotes on a company letterhead. Can't find any ham dealers that sell them, anybody know a company that deals in duplexers? Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] MSR 2000 DC Transfer Question
I have sent a schematic directly to WA6LUY. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
RE: [Repeater-Builder] quote for duplexers needed
I can think of a few: DB Spectra, TX-RX, RFS Celwave, Telewave, Comprod, Sinclair. Ham dealers normally don't sell duplexers... 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ww3s73 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:55 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] quote for duplexers needed Our county EMA office is going to purchase us a new set of duplexers for our repeater, but we need at least 2 quotes on a company letterhead. Can't find any ham dealers that sell them, anybody know a company that deals in duplexers?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] quote for duplexers needed
You might try Tessco if they need a commercial distributor. Your county or local municipality probably has someone who services their gear who might be a dealer. Chuck On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net wrote: I can think of a few: DB Spectra, TX-RX, RFS Celwave, Telewave, Comprod, Sinclair. Ham dealers normally don't sell duplexers... 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ww3s73 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:55 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] quote for duplexers needed Our county EMA office is going to purchase us a new set of duplexers for our repeater, but we need at least 2 quotes on a company letterhead. Can't find any ham dealers that sell them, anybody know a company that deals in duplexers? -- = Charles L. Mills Westmoreland Co. ARES EC Amateur Radio Callsign W3YNI Email: w3y...@gmail.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] HELP Midland 10 meter Z-273 program
I have a Midland Z-273 programmer, how can I help? -Jon - WB0VTM (You can reach me directly at wb0...@earthlink.net ) - Original Message - From: Carlos Padro To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:16 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] HELP Midland 10 meter Z-273 program Please I have a 10 meter band midland Radio, I need who can program the Z-273 module. Thanks Carlos Padro wp4mjp 787-379-0062
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kerchunk
Actually it's not impossible to determine the source of kerchunking but it can be expensive and time consuming. Every repeater SysOp should consider having a doppler DF capability to aid in locating the source of malicious interference. Jack - N7OO - Original Message - From: retiredcss01 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:34 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Kerchunk Thanks for all the info on repeater kerchunking. I am convinced that it's one of those things that are best ignored. It's impossible to determine, like you say, whether it is a birdie, someother interference, or just someone checking to see if they have repeater coverage. Again, thanks for all the input. 73, Tom W5BLO -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release Date: 03/16/09 07:04:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk
At 3/15/2009 22:15, you wrote: The duration-based anti-kerchunk filters are way more obnoxious than the kerchunkers IMHO, and they also block legitimate users who make quick calls. Not if it's implemented properly. A proper anti-kerchunk will key the repeater TX on any valid input activity but will suppress the hangtime unless the signal remains valid for a reasonable time period. That way the kerchunker doesn't see any response from the repeater. Bob NO6B
[Repeater-Builder] OFF TOPIC - DOD Ends Sale of Expended Military Brass to Remanuctures
This post is OFF TOPIC, but if you value your 2nd Amendment rights you should read and act on this as you see fit. I recieved this from a friend and thought it was important enough to make an exception to the rule. Please let this be the only post on this subject on this site as the owner has granted me permission to post this item. I apologize for the length of the post and thank Kevin for his permission. DOD Ends Sale of Expended Military Brass to Remanufacturers* Sunday, March 15, 2009 /AND SO IT BEGINS.../ We all wondered when it was going to start. When the new administration would make their move against us as gun owners. Oh, everyone got upset about HR45--I'll bet I got over 100 e-mails warning me about this draconian gun registration bill that had been introduced in Congress. I was really glad to see Tom Gresham, host of Gun Talk Radio, an editor, writer, television host on Self-Defense TV, and one of the foremost gun spokespersons, come out and tell everyone to stop worrying about legislation so absolutely over-the-top--it would never get out of committee. Tom said save your energy for when we really need it--don't expend it trying to warn everyone in your e-mail list about legislation that would go nowhere. Now, Tom just interviewed me, and Larry Haynie, owner of Georgia Arms (www.georgia-arms.com http://www.georgia-arms.com/), on Gun Talk (www.guntalk.com http://www.guntalk.com/)--and Tom agrees, now is the time to ...unleash the hounds... by which he means start e-mailing and writing your senators and congressmen. Now it has come clear...now we know what they intend to do. It is an end-run around Congress. They don't need to try to ban guns--they don't need to fight a massive battle to attempt gun registration, or limit assault weapon sales. Nope. All they have to do is limit the amount of ammunition available to the civilian market, and when bullets dry up, guns will be useless. Think we jest? Here are copies of two letters sent to Georgia Arms just Thursday evening--effectively cancelling a contract he had to purchase 30,000 pounds of expended military brass in .223, 7.62mm, and .50caliber: /Dear Valued Customer: Please take a moment to note important changes set forth by the Defense Logistics Agency: Recently it has been determined that fired munitions of all calibers, shapes and sizes have been designated to be Demil code B.As a result and in conjunction with DLA's current Demil code B policy, this notice will serve as official notification which requires Scrap Venture (SV) to implement mutilation as a condition of sale for all sales of fired munitions effective immediately. This notice also requires SV to immediately cease delivery of any fired munitions that have been recently sold or on active term contracts, unless the material has been mutilated prior to sale or SV personnel can attest to the mutilation after delivery. A certificate of destruction is required in either case. Thank you, DOD Surplus 15051 N Kierland Blvd # 300 Scottsdale, AZ 85254 / ** /March 12, 2009 Larry Haynie Georgia Arms PO Box 238 Villa Rica, GA 30180 Re: Event 7084-6200: Dear Larry Haynie, Effective immediately DOD Surplus, LLC, will be implementing new requirements for mutilation of fired shell casings. The new DRMS requirement calls for DOD Surplus personnel to witness the mutilation of the property and sign the Certificate of Destruction. Mutilation of the property can be done at the DRMO, if permitted by the Government, or it may be mutilated at a site chosen by the buyer. Mutilation means that the property will be destroyed to the extent prevents its reuse or reconstruction. DOD Surplus personnel will determine when property has been sufficiently mutilated to meet the requirements of the Government. If you do not agree with the new conditions of your spot sale, please sign the appropriate box provided below stating that you do not agree to the new terms and would like to cancel your purchase effective immediately. If you do agree to the new terms please sign in the appropriate box provided below to acknowledge your understanding and agreement with the new requirements relating to your purchase. Fax the signed document back to (480) 367-1450, emailed responses are not acceptable. Please respond to this request no later than close of business Monday, March 16th, 2009. Sincerely, Government Liquidation. / ** Got that? From now on, remanufacturers of military brass will not be able to buy surplus brass from DOD--actually from Government Liquidators, llc.--the corporation that sells surplus materials for the U.S. government. At least, not in any form recognizable as once-fired brass ammunition. Now all brass ammunition will have to be shredded, and sold as scrap. Georgia
[Repeater-Builder] Re: HELP Midland 10 meter Z-273 program
Re: Free programming of Midland Eprom Module Hi Carlos, Please join the yahoo midland group... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MidlandLMR/ On this group you will see the following post: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MidlandLMR/message/7326 Feel free to Email me direct to take advantage of my offer. cheers, skipp Carlos Padro wp4...@... wrote: Please I have a 10 meter band midland Radio, I need who can program the Z-273 module. Thanks Carlos Padro wp4mjp 787-379-0062
[Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR 2000 DC Transfer Question (you can leave it in).
Re: MSR 2000 DC Transfer Question Won't hurt anything repeater wise to leave it in. but... if you remove it you have to provide channel element ground. There's a channel element enable wire on the transmitter (and the receiver) if they are not already jumpered on full time. And there are two extra jumpers required on the Squelch Gate Module if you remove the the DC Transfer or F1-Pl Guard Tone Modules. Look at the manual and I believe the SQM jumpers you need to add are JU5 and JU6. cheers, skipp wa5luy wa5...@... wrote: Does anyone have a schematic for a TRN 5256A DC Transfer Module. I would like to remove this board from the backplane if possible for a new repeater I am building. Thank You
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Andrews hard line help
Thanks Nate .. :P yes I looked inside .. there was water damage to the box's when I got the ends with the coax .. I will double check to see if I have any luck On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Nate Duehr n...@natetech.com wrote: Just checking here… they’re usually INSIDE the little red white boxes that the connectors come in. Did you get those and/or have you looked inside real carefully? If they’re really NOS, I’d think they’d still be in their boxes. Nate WY0X *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto: repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick Szajkowski *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2009 1:25 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Andrews hard line help no new ends :( all NOS) but no distructions ... so any and all help . I will go look at the ends and see if I can read part #'s On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Chuck Kelsey wb2...@roadrunner.com wrote: There is an instruction sheet that comes with the new connectors, so you should be all set when you get them. No special tools required. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - *From:* Rick Szajkowski va3r...@gmail.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2009 3:11 PM *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Andrews hard line help Hello to the group ... I need to run some new 7/8 hard line and some 1/2 inch Question is there any info on installing the ends on both I did a google search and not luck any help would be great and also any special tools ? Thanks in advance .. Rick
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSR 2000 DC Transfer Question
Whoops... so did I. - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:57 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] MSR 2000 DC Transfer Question I have sent a schematic directly to WA6LUY. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Andrews hard line help
one of the connectors is a Andrews L45W thats a N Mail connector .. for the 7/8 Andrews hard line .. ( I cant get to the roll of 7/8 right now) I hope to get to the other connectors tomarrow as I need a female for the sinclare 4 bay .. Thanks to all for the help .. Getting ready to do Tower work :) have to do it before the warm weather hits .. hihi On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci.com wrote: Rick Go to the files section and there is a file there Andrew bulletin 37383C.pdf that is the instruction sheet for connectors. Craig That sheet is for the early L4 series solder-type connectors; it may or may not be applicable to the original post since we don't know which connectors he has. It's definately not applicable for the 7/8th's. Andrew has come out with serveral different series of connectors since the days of the original L series (without a suffix). The L series connectors came out when LDF first came out, replacing the HSJ series. For exmaple, RingFlare, OnePiece, Posi-Stop, and EZfit are some of the newer series that come to mind. It would be best if the original poster listed which connectors he has on hand, and what kind of cable he has (for example, LDF5-50A isn't the same as LDF5-50B, and the connectors aren't interchangable either). --- Jeff WN3A
