Re: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM
- Original Message - From: Rual Thompson myspectacularjour...@gmail.com Im thinking of starting a new rivendell user forum, this mailing list is clunky and buggy to say the best, lol, a forum would allow all active users in the platform to get help in a timely manner, provide notifications when someone replys to a topic, and allow everyone to share a wealth of knowledge without the bugs of not always getting your message through, thoughts? Those who do not understand Usenet are doomed to reinvent it. Poorly. -- Me, after Henry Spencer. The list works fine, from what I can see, is locally archived to each user's preferences, is not resource intensive, and has no centralized server which must be paid for or maintained. I vote against. Vehemently. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274 ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: Those who do not understand Usenet are doomed to reinvent it. Poorly. -- Me, after Henry Spencer. Wow. Usenet. There's a name I've not heard for a while. I used to spend hours on Usenet groups. Wy too many hours... [alt|rec].radio.scanner, alt.guns, etc. Nowadays we have *so* many other replacement ways to waste time -- Facebook, Google, YouTube, LinkedIn, IRC, etc., etc., etc. Life was simpler back then - if you could stay out of the newsgroup reader, you *had* a life since there really wasn't much else to compete for your time. Of course, that was in my college and then bachelor days, so I had time to waste ... now I'm married with children and have a job. 'Nuf said. :-) I vote against. Vehemently. Ditto. As if it mattered any more... Methinks it only matters to the one proposing it. ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM
There's a mailing list, an archive and a wiki. I'm not sure what else I'd want. ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] NEW PLATFORM
My biggest concern with Google, as it relates to this, is that they have a history of significantly changing or even discontinuing some of their services giving only a short notice. I am cautiously okay with their data mining as I feel any serious abuse of this would jeopardize their business, and they are smart enough to know this. Yes we have a Wiki, but unfortunately much of the really useful information from this news group doesn't make over to the wiki. I too am guilty of this and keep reminding myself that I need to contribute my knowledge/experience to it someday as I feel I've done some interesting things with Rivendell. So I would vote for something more easily (or at least obviously) searchable. I say that without perhaps knowing all the different ways one can possibly search this forum. ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM
All the stuff I used to do on forums I now do on Reddit. Are there enough Redditors in the Rivendell community to warrant a subreddit? I've never started one myself so I don't know how much work it is to start and administer, but it's likely easier than a forum. On 27 April 2014 19:52, Rual Thompson myspectacularjour...@gmail.comwrote: Im thinking of starting a new rivendell user forum, this mailing list is clunky and buggy to say the best, lol, a forum would allow all active users in the platform to get help in a timely manner, provide notifications when someone replys to a topic, and allow everyone to share a wealth of knowledge without the bugs of not always getting your message through, thoughts? ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev -- Stephen Ward Admin - aukondk.com ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM
I think a forum is a very good idea. I aleady run a forum for sometjing completely different and it's very easy to set up and administer. I also think a forum would be more help for Rivendell users who may not have the tech skills to be developers. Frums keep all the info available, so people can dip in whenever they want to. In my opinion this would help those (like me) who want to support and use the software, but sometimes run into tech difficulties. If you need any help with a forum let me know. Andy Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone -Original Message- From: Rual Thompson myspectacularjour...@gmail.com Sender: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 17:52:11 To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Subject: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM Im thinking of starting a new rivendell user forum, this mailing list is clunky and buggy to say the best, lol, a forum would allow all active users in the platform to get help in a timely manner, provide notifications when someone replys to a topic, and allow everyone to share a wealth of knowledge without the bugs of not always getting your message through, thoughts? ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM
Well, I'll offer my $0.02 here... Personally I prefer the email list to a forum, I probably would stick with the email list and not use a forum. I prefer to keep stuff in email, it is easier for me that way, and I have found that everyone on this list has been very helpful in resolving any issues that I have. I've also helped out whenever I can. It is also relatively easy to search when I need to do so. I know that the forums that I've got logins for I don't use all that much in comparison. To go from something that I read and find some useful bit of information on almost daily to something that I would likely only visit once a month seems like a step backwards for me. Thanks, Lorne Tyndale I think a forum is a very good idea. I aleady run a forum for sometjing completely different and it's very easy to set up and administer. I also think a forum would be more help for Rivendell users who may not have the tech skills to be developers. Frums keep all the info available, so people can dip in whenever they want to. In my opinion this would help those (like me) who want to support and use the software, but sometimes run into tech difficulties. If you need any help with a forum let me know. Andy Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone -Original Message- From: Rual Thompson myspectacularjour...@gmail.com Sender: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 17:52:11 To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Subject: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM Im thinking of starting a new rivendell user forum, this mailing list is clunky and buggy to say the best, lol, a forum would allow all active users in the platform to get help in a timely manner, provide notifications when someone replys to a topic, and allow everyone to share a wealth of knowledge without the bugs of not always getting your message through, thoughts? ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM
Personally I think it's a bad idea. There are already 2 ways to communicate (irc and this list). Adding another would just splinter the group. Also, it's a little rude to not participate for years, then come try to change things when you decide to return. Larry Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Rual Thompson Date:04/27/2014 12:52 PM (GMT-06:00) To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Subject: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM Im thinking of starting a new rivendell user forum, this mailing list is clunky and buggy to say the best, lol, a forum would allow all active users in the platform to get help in a timely manner, provide notifications when someone replys to a topic, and allow everyone to share a wealth of knowledge without the bugs of not always getting your message through, thoughts? ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM
I agree Larry, I thought about this forum idea earlier and combine it with some kind of appliance in the Dutch language, but you would have to be on the highest level for Linux MySQL and RD to do this (which applies to at best 2 or 3 here) , I also don't believe it's a good idea to have the moderating done by anybody else BUT these 2 or 3 high level guys WBHM Web Operations schreef op 28-4-2014 15:09: Personally I think it's a bad idea. There are already 2 ways to communicate (irc and this list). Adding another would just splinter the group. Also, it's a little rude to not participate for years, then come try to change things when you decide to return. Larry Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Rual Thompson Date:04/27/2014 12:52 PM (GMT-06:00) To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Subject: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM Im thinking of starting a new rivendell user forum, this mailing list is clunky and buggy to say the best, lol, a forum would allow all active users in the platform to get help in a timely manner, provide notifications when someone replys to a topic, and allow everyone to share a wealth of knowledge without the bugs of not always getting your message through, thoughts? ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM
On Monday 28 April 2014 09:09:17 am WBHM Web Operations wrote: There are already 2 ways to communicate (irc and this list). Adding another would just splinter the group. I'm still biting my tong, though I may check a forum on very rare occasion. Suffice to say that I pretty much already know where the development team will be. -- Cowboy ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM
Just interested, besides Frederick, WHO are the development team? I follow this list for some time now and use RD since the beginning of 2013 but I couldn't tell because of this setup with the mailing list and IRC (which i do not use) Cowboy schreef op 28-4-2014 15:31: On Monday 28 April 2014 09:09:17 am WBHM Web Operations wrote: There are already 2 ways to communicate (irc and this list). Adding another would just splinter the group. I'm still biting my tong, though I may check a forum on very rare occasion. Suffice to say that I pretty much already know where the development team will be. ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM
On Apr 27, 2014, at 13:52 11, Rual Thompson myspectacularjour...@gmail.com wrote: Im thinking of starting a new rivendell user forum, this mailing list is clunky FWIW, it is most unlikely that I would participate much in such a forum. ‘Clunky’ it may be, but mailing lists have the (for me) great benefit that every item posted comes through in a linear fashion, making it relatively easy to see *everything* that is going on in the community. Contrast this with web fora, where everything ends up being stuffed into 5294 different pigeonholes. I for one just don’t have the time to troll through all of that stuff. and buggy to say the best, lol, a forum would allow all active users in the platform to get help in a timely manner, provide notifications when someone replys to a topic, and allow everyone to share a wealth of knowledge without the bugs of not always getting your message through, I’m a little curious as to what ‘bugs’ you are referring to here. As for ‘notifications’, we already have them. They’re called ‘e-mail messages’. :) Cheers! |-| | Frederick F. Gleason, Jr. | Chief Developer | | | Paravel Systems | |-| | Stult's Report: | | Our problems are mostly behind us. What we have to do now is | | fight the solutions.| |-| ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM
Larry, The problem with this list is useful information gets lost easily with the passage of time. There are also people out there who would like ti use Rivendell who are not developers, so quite a lot of the stuff that gets posted here is not really relevant to them. If you're running a busy radio station you just need software that works put of the box. Althiugh things are better with Linux than they used to be, I still think this is one of the things stopping a lot of users from makingbthe switch from Windows. For me a forum for users would be more relevant than a list which seems to be more for developers. I don't have the technical knowledge to be involved in development, but would be happy to contribute my experiences in using the software in a live FM radio environment. In short, I think there is plenty of space for both and I think it's a little rude to put down the ideas of someone who wants to help build on the community. Just my thoughts. Andy Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone -Original Message- From: WBHM Web Operations la...@wbhm.org Sender: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 13:09:17 To: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation Systemrivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Subject: Re: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM
On Monday 28 April 2014 11:07:26 andy.coop...@gmail.com wrote: In short, I think there is plenty of space for both and I think it's a little rude to put down the ideas of someone who wants to help build on the community. You do know that there are two mailing lists right? One for developers and one for users. Also, there are list archives. The history is not gone that easily. I seem to recall someone in the past having a forum that was a mailing list in disguise. Anyone know what I mean? all the best, drew ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM
Forgive me, but what about the Rivendell-dev Archives? It's all there.. http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/pipermail/rivendell-dev/ [1] Tom DawsonFANTASY RADIOwww.fantasyradio.co.uk - Original Message - From: andy.coop...@gmail.com To:WBHM Web Operations , , User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System Cc: Sent:Mon, 28 Apr 2014 15:07:26 + Subject:Re: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM Larry, The problem with this list is useful information gets lost easily with the passage of time. There are also people out there who would like ti use Rivendell who are not developers, so quite a lot of the stuff that gets posted here is not really relevant to them. If you're running a busy radio station you just need software that works put of the box. Althiugh things are better with Linux than they used to be, I still think this is one of the things stopping a lot of users from makingbthe switch from Windows. For me a forum for users would be more relevant than a list which seems to be more for developers. I don't have the technical knowledge to be involved in development, but would be happy to contribute my experiences in using the software in a live FM radio environment. In short, I think there is plenty of space for both and I think it's a little rude to put down the ideas of someone who wants to help build on the community. Just my thoughts. Andy Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone -Original Message- From: WBHM Web Operations Sender: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 13:09:17 To: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System Subject: Re: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev Links: -- [1] http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/pipermail/rivendell-dev/ ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM
On Monday 28 April 2014 11:20:24 am drew Roberts wrote: You do know that there are two mailing lists right? One for developers and one for users. Also, there are list archives. The history is not gone that easily. I would concede that better search-ability of the list archive could be an advantage. -- Cowboy ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM
On 04/28/2014 10:46 AM, Cowboy wrote: On Monday 28 April 2014 11:20:24 am drew Roberts wrote: I would concede that better search-ability of the list archive could be an advantage. Here's a handy google tip. You can specify to search a specific type. Try this in the google search box: cart error site:http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/pipermail/rivendell-dev/ ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM
On Monday 28 April 2014 01:15:50 pm Rual Thompson wrote: Hope to build a strong informational system in ONE central place instead of scattered across many wikis, IRC and mailing lists, That would be the final goal of the forum, Then that would be your biggest challenge. Getting everything in the list archives of the last 7 years, copied into your forum. Good luck ! -- Cowboy ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM
What about just getting the wiki up to date and better organized? On Apr 28, 2014 1:33 PM, Cowboy c...@cwf1.com wrote: On Monday 28 April 2014 12:08:28 pm Larry Owen wrote: Here's a handy google tip. You can specify to search a specific type. Try this in the google search box: cart error site: http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/pipermail/rivendell-dev/ Wow ! I knew google would do that, but I didn't know it would do it that well ! Scratch my previous. -- Cowboy ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM
Just reading everything that is going along here, and I had thought of that as well. Big problem though is exactly how do you do it? I mean there are guys like me that are starting out fresh on the latest appliance, which a lot of that info doesn't apply (and can really confuse a newcomer such as myself), BUT... There are a lot of folks out there i am sure that are using much older versions that probably use the wiki as a resource of information. Off Topic, but not really-that is one of the BIGGEST challenges I have faced moving to Linux. Its not the *lack* of information, its the overload of information, and you have to really pay attention to find out what applies, what doesn't, and to which version's the info apply too. Just my nickels worth. -Alan On 4/28/2014 12:37 PM, Chester Graham wrote: What about just getting the wiki up to date and better organized? On Apr 28, 2014 1:33 PM, Cowboy c...@cwf1.com mailto:c...@cwf1.com wrote: On Monday 28 April 2014 12:08:28 pm Larry Owen wrote: Here's a handy google tip. You can specify to search a specific type. Try this in the google search box: cart error site:http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/pipermail/rivendell-dev/ Wow ! I knew google would do that, but I didn't know it would do it that well ! Scratch my previous. -- Cowboy ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org mailto:Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3469 / Virus Database: 3722/7406 - Release Date: 04/28/14 ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM
yea, I have been reading it too... my first reaction, fire off angry email to the new guy, asking why the new guy thought everything should change so I waited a day or two... Reaction still is why, and what for, I would like a clearer wiki, and by clearer, I mean, maybe more examples, written for a non experience user, as we all were that once. However the concept of having someone new, coming in and trying a re-write seems pointless, on of the strong points is the large number of experienced people, who help on a daily basis. I would think that most of them a re likely offended, (as am I), and since it's likely that the real people behind the software, wouldn't go there anyway. There also could be a turning point, I remember when several other open source programs experienced a similar user base squabble. In more than one case, the developer, said screw it, and we were all out of luck. I say, leave it the way it is, we all learned to understand, and function, so maybe the new guys should consider that too. And from what I understand, anyone can help write wiki pages, maybe that's a place to start. -Original Message- From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org [mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org] On Behalf Of Alan Smith Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 2:08 PM To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Subject: Re: [RDD] NEW PLATFORM Just reading everything that is going along here, and I had thought of that as well. Big problem though is exactly how do you do it? I mean there are guys like me that are starting out fresh on the latest appliance, which a lot of that info doesn't apply (and can really confuse a newcomer such as myself), BUT... There are a lot of folks out there i am sure that are using much older versions that probably use the wiki as a resource of information. Off Topic, but not really-that is one of the BIGGEST challenges I have faced moving to Linux. Its not the *lack* of information, its the overload of information, and you have to really pay attention to find out what applies, what doesn't, and to which version's the info apply too. Just my nickels worth. -Alan On 4/28/2014 12:37 PM, Chester Graham wrote: What about just getting the wiki up to date and better organized? On Apr 28, 2014 1:33 PM, Cowboy c...@cwf1.com wrote: On Monday 28 April 2014 12:08:28 pm Larry Owen wrote: Here's a handy google tip. You can specify to search a specific type. Try this in the google search box: cart error site:http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/pipermail/rivendell-dev/ Wow ! I knew google would do that, but I didn't know it would do it that well ! Scratch my previous. -- Cowboy ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3469 / Virus Database: 3722/7406 - Release Date: 04/28/14 --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
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I mean there are guys like me that are starting out fresh on the latest appliance, which a lot of that info doesn't apply (and can really confuse a newcomer such as myself), BUT... There are a lot of folks out there i am sure that are using much older versions that probably use the wiki as a resource of information. There's also those of us who compile from source. But then that's the beauty of open source! Many different paths to take. :) ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
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The communication vehicle of choice often seems to be a common conundrum. - As far as I can tell, there is a need for permanent information, like a knowlege base, or wiki, etc. This is extremely useful if it's accurate and kept up to date! - There is also a need for the ephemeral exchange of info, such as the questions/answers we see in the listserv method we use now. I volunteer for a local community radio station (Chief Operator head of Engineering). For a communication vehicle of choice, they're all about FB (which I choose not to have a presence in). That covers the ephemeral side, but as far as I can tell, it doesn't provide a good solution for permanent information. I prefer email, and still am thinking about things like a listserv approach or wiki, etc. I thought a forum would be good solution for them too, primarily to solve the permanent info repository aspect. But they seemed uninterested; the forum never seemed to catch on well, and FB still seems to be their primary communication choice. Personally, I like the simplicity and flexibility of the listserv approach (individual or digest formats), and really appreciate its no-frills cleanliness. That's probably why I like the wiki-based approach too. Craigslist is another good example of clean no-frills functionality. These tools (for me), allow quick, efficient use, and don't get in my way. Forums have a clunkiness to them that I can't quite put my finger on. It seems like I have to dig and dig and dig through what often feels like duplicate or similar information (often found in different areas) to finally get a complete picture. In my experience, they rarely seem to be structured effectively. My votes: - For the permanent respository/knowledgebase, I think a good wiki would be great. - For the ephemeral stuff, the listserv is awesome. I'm already logging into email, and using that to post/communicate is nice instead of having yet another thing to authenticate to (reduce your attack surface instead of increasing it). Cheers, Rick KMUZ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] NEW PLATFORM
Im thinking of starting a new rivendell user forum, this mailing list is clunky and buggy to say the best, lol, a forum would allow all active users in the platform to get help in a timely manner, provide notifications when someone replys to a topic, and allow everyone to share a wealth of knowledge without the bugs of not always getting your message through, thoughts? ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
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goood idea On 2014-04-27 20:52, Rual Thompson wrote: Im thinking of starting a new rivendell user forum, this mailing list is clunky and buggy to say the best, lol, a forum would allow all active users in the platform to get help in a timely manner, provide notifications when someone replys to a topic, and allow everyone to share a wealth of knowledge without the bugs of not always getting your message through, thoughts? ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
