[RollTideFan] 2001-02 Bowl Schedule

2001-12-09 Thread William H Evans

http://espn.go.com/ncf/s/bowlsked.html

2001-02 Bowl Schedule




Date, Time, TV  
Bowl, Site
Matchup


Dec. 18, 8 p.m. ET, ESPN2  
New Orleans Bowl, New Orleans, Superdome  
North Texas (5-6) vs. Colorado State (6-5)  

Dec. 19, 8 p.m. ET, ESPN2  
GMAC Bowl, Mobile, Ala., Ladd Peebles Stadium  
East Carolina (6-5) vs. Marshall (10-2)  

Dec. 20, 7:30 p.m. ET, ESPN
Visit Florida Tangerine Bowl, Orlando, Citrus Bowl  
N.C. State (7-4) vs. Pittsburgh (6-5)  

Dec. 25, 3:30 p.m. ET, ABC
Sega Sports Las Vegas Bowl, Las Vegas, Sam Boyd Stadium
Utah (7-4) vs. USC (6-5)  

Dec. 27, 4 p.m. ET, ESPN
Seattle Bowl, Seattle, Safeco Field
Stanford (9-2) vs. Georgia Tech (7-5)  

Dec. 27, 7:30 p.m. ET, ESPN
Mainstay Independence Bowl, Shreveport, La., Independence Stadium
Iowa State (7-4) vs. Alabama (6-5)  

Dec. 28, 1:30 p.m. ET, ESPN
galleryfurniture.com Bowl, Houston, Astrodome
Texas AM (7-4) vs. TCU (6-5)  

Dec. 28, 5 p.m. ET, ESPN
Music City Bowl, Nashville, Tenn., Adelphia Coliseum
Boston College (7-4) vs. Georgia (8-3)  

Dec. 28, 8:30 p.m. ET, ESPN
Culligan Holiday Bowl, San Diego, Qualcomm Stadium
Texas (10-2) vs. Washington (8-3)

Dec. 29, Noon ET, ESPN
Motor City Bowl, Pontiac, Mich., Silverdome
Toledo (9-2) vs. Cincinnati (7-4)  

Dec. 29, 3:30 p.m. ET, ESPN
Sylvania Alamo Bowl, San Antonio, Alamodome
Texas Tech (7-4) vs. Iowa (6-5)  

Dec. 29, 5:30 p.m. ET, ESPN2
Insight.com Bowl, Phoenix, Bank One Ballpark
Kansas State (6-5) vs. Syracuse (9-3)  

Dec. 31, 12:30 p.m. ET, ESPN
Crucial.com Humanitarian Bowl, Boise, Idaho, Bronco Stadium
La. Tech (7-4) vs.Clemson (6-5)

Dec. 31, 2 p.m. ET, CBS
Wells Fargo Sun Bowl, El Paso, Texas, Sun Bowl
Purdue (6-5) vs. Washington State (9-2)  

Dec. 31, 3 p.m. ET, Fox SN
Silicon Valley Classic, San Jose, Calif., Spartan Stadium
Fresno State (11-2) vs. Michigan St. (6-5)  

Dec. 31, 4 p.m. ET, ESPN
AXA Liberty Bowl, Memphis, Tenn., Liberty Bowl
Louisville (10-2) vs. Brigham Young (12-0)  

Dec. 31, 7:30 p.m. ET, ESPN
Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl, Atlanta, Georgia Dome
North Carolina (7-5) vs. Auburn (7-4)  

Jan. 1, 11 a.m. ET, FOX
SBC Cotton Bowl, Dallas, Cotton Bowl
Arkansas (7-4) vs. Oklahoma (10-2)  

Jan. 1, 11 a.m. ET, ESPN
Outback Bowl, Tampa, Fla., Raymond James Stadium
Ohio State (7-4) vs. South Carolina (8-3)  

Jan. 1, 12:30 p.m. ET, NBC
Toyota Gator Bowl, Jacksonville, Fla., Alltell Stadium
Florida State (7-4) vs. Virginia Tech (8-3)  

Jan. 1, 1 p.m. ET, ABC
Capital One Florida Citrus Bowl, Orlando, Fla., Citrus Bowl
Michigan (8-3) vs. Tennessee (10-2)  

Jan. 1, 4:30 p.m. ET, ABC
Tostitos Fiesta Bowl, Tempe, Ariz., Sun Devil Stadium
Colorado (10-2) vs. Oregon (10-1)  

Jan. 1, 8:30 p.m. ET, ABC
Nokia Sugar Bowl, New Orleans, Louisiana Superdome
Illinois (10-1) vs. LSU (9-3)

Jan. 2, 8 p.m. ET, ABC
FedEx Orange Bowl, Miami, Pro Player Stadium
Maryland (10-1) vs. Florida (9-2)  

Jan. 3, 8 p.m. ET, ABC
Rose Bowl presented by ATT, Pasadena, Calif., Rose Bowl
Miami (11-0) vs. Nebraska (11-1)  


 

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Re: [RollTideFan] Don't everybody talk at once!

2001-12-08 Thread William H Evans

-- comments embedded --


On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 16:42:29 -0600 Hugh Wolfgang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 You lost the Iron Bowl.  Your cows don't get to eat this winter.
 
 


I have no cows.  I get dog and cat food at the store just like everybody
else.  I will admit to having two (count 'em: 2) barns on the property.

Apparently Doug does have some cows/horses, or he was helping somebody
else get their hay into the barn.


On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 16:45:42 -0600 Rick McMahan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Spoken like a true Barner! vbg
 
 


Yes it was!

This *is* Alabama after all; lots of people (even bammers) have barns,
cows, etc.



bill evans
Hartselle, AL
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Re: [RollTideFan] Question

2001-12-08 Thread William H Evans

I'll take a shot at it

a baar-ner.


bill evans
Hartselle, AL
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On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 17:45:52 -0600 Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 What do you call a barner with a sheep under each arm?
 
 
 Roll Tide!!
 
 Jeff Tide
 
 

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Re: [RollTideFan] Superior a Real Class Act! NOT!

2001-12-08 Thread William H Evans



The AP wire site doesn't let you link a url to a story. That link 
carries you to an entry portal.

You are going to have to cut and paste the text of the story into an 
e-mail.



bill evansHartselle, AL[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 21:35:55 -0500 "crimsontidefan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  http://wire.ap.org/?FRONTID=HOMESITE=FLBRAenter=Go
  
  Of Course GOD speaks out again! What a loser he 
  really is. For someone that has nothing better than to investigate other 
  programs.
  


Re: [ADMIN] Queenie/[RollTideFan] Organ computer lesson

2001-12-07 Thread William H Evans



Jeff,

In case you are still feeling left out of yesterday's fracas, I found this 
oldie but goodie in the archives of another list that is now defunct. I 
thought you might get a kick out of it.

As an added bonus, it was posted exactly one year ago yesterday.

I believe that I expressed wonder at the time as to how you affected people 
this way.


bill evansHartselle, AL[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tidefan/message/1590



  
  
From: "Anthony and Ashlea" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Date: WedDec6,2000 8:28 
  pmSubject: Re: [Tidefan] It doesn't look 
  good
  

  Whoever you are, you're a really nasty person and I wish you 
  would go away!-Original Message-From: Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 
  Wednesday, December 06, 2000 8:14 PMSubject: Re: [Tidefan] It doesn't 
  look goodYou really believe that crap, don't you? How do 
  you know which one of me Iam tonight?[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 19:46:17 -0600 "Jeff Todd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes: Looks to me like a couple of hellish fights broke out today. 
 Incredibly, I was not involved! What's up with that? I've got a 
reputation to  uphold, don't y'all know?  
Fighting is good for the soul. It helps to cleanse one of violent,  
pent-up emotions which are unhealthy. I enjoy seeing people get things 
off  their chests. Especially people who have criticized me in 
the past for the  exact same behavior. I'm not such a classless 
bastard after all! Then  again, maybe I am. If so, at least I'm 
not alone anymore.  Roll Tide!!  Slef 
 -Original Message- From: M.M.'Red " McCullough [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 
Thursday, December 06, 2001 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [ADMIN] 
Queenie/[RollTideFan] Organ computer lesson   Can 
someone please explain what's going on?I have lost track of 
the characters in this thread.  Jason Houston 
wrote:   Sonja left which list? RTF? 
Why?   JRH   
- Original Message -  From: "RTF Admin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 5:01 PM  Subject: [ADMIN] 
Queenie/[RollTideFan] Organ computer lesson   
 DROP THIS DAMN THREAD!! NO REASON TO KEEP DREDGING THIS UP.  SONJA 
LEFT THE   LIST ANYWAY.  
   -Original Message-   
From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   son  
 Amen Queen, [...] 
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Re: [RollTideFan] where da Queen?

2001-12-07 Thread William H Evans

Then your e-mail program is broken.  g

Even Micro$oft is able to handle that one.


bill evans
Hartselle, AL
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 21:52:39 -0500 Phillip L. Harbison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Oh yeah, one other reason to avoid HTML is the original text
 does not get quoted automatically when someone replies to an
 HTML message.  I had to cut/paste the quoted text above.
 
 -- 
 Phil Harbison
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[RollTideFan] Coach Gottfried takes team to UCLA in game that honors mentor

2001-12-06 Thread William H Evans

http://www.al.com/sports/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/xml/story.ssf/html_sta
ndard.xsl?/base/sports/10076337141166324.xml

Gottfried goes back 
Coach takes team to UCLA in game that honors mentor 
12/06/01

STEVE IRVINE
News staff writer

TUSCALOOSA He was newly married, more than 2,000 miles away from home and
paying $650 per month for an efficiency apartment. His monthly stipend at
UCLA was $362 per month, his transportation was public and the only
person he knew upon arrival in Los Angeles other than his wife was the
man who had just hired him to be a graduate assistant for the Bruins. 

Those were good times for Alabama head men's basketball coach Mark
Gottfried. 
 
My wife (Elizabeth) and I had a great experience in California, said
Gottfried, a Mobile native and Alabama graduate, who spent seven seasons
as an assistant coach under Jim Harrick with the first coming in 1988-89.


Gottfried left UCLA to become the head coach at Murray State following
the Bruins NCAA championship season of 1994-95 and took over at Alabama
in 1998. His first time to return to Southern California as Alabama's
head coach is Saturday when Gottfried takes the No.16-ranked Crimson Tide
to the Anaheim Pond for a p.m. matchup against 20th-ranked UCLA in the
Wooden Classic. 

It's special, first off because it's the Wooden Classic, Gottfried said
of the event honoring his mentor John Wooden. You know I was fortunate
enough to build a good relationship with Coach Wooden when I was at UCLA.
Just to play in that event is going to be fun for me. 

Gottfried befriended Wooden soon after joining the UCLA coaching staff.
Learning the craft from a man who won 885 games overall and 10 NCAA
national championships seemed like a good idea. 

I can remember Coach Harrick told us we were going to go eat breakfast
with Coach Wooden one morning, Gottfried said of his first meeting with
Wooden. I sat there, watched him eat his pancakes and have syrup on his
chin like all the rest of us. I thought `That's John Wooden over there
eating pancakes.' 

Over the next seven years Gottfried spent as much time as he could with
Wooden absorbing wisdom about everything from basketball handling
youngsters to life's lessons. 

Every time I went to his house I wanted to tape record in my mind what
he would say, said Gottfried, who still chats with Wooden regularly. 

What developed from the visits was Gottfried adopting Wooden's
philosophies as a coach. Watch Alabama practice today and you'll see some
of the same practice plans used by Wooden. 

He preaches John Wooden this and John Wooden that, said Alabama guard
Terrance Meade. 

Gottfried admits that he quotes Wooden so much that often when he begins
a statement, the players finish it before he can. But those same players
don't really know the full legacy of Wooden. When asked about his
knowledge of UCLA's storied past, Alabama center Erwin Dudley mentioned
Ed O'Bannon and the 1994-95 NCAA championship team. That was 20 seasons
after Wooden retired. 

Adults couldn't understand why a young player didn't want to go to
UCLA, Gottfried said. Kids that we recruited (at UCLA) from say age 10
when they started paying attention to basketball to age 17 didn't watch
John Wooden. It's very similar to a football player in our state who
hasn't watched Bear Bryant. 

Gottfried has asked Wooden to speak with the Crimson Tide at the team's
hotel either today or Friday. On Saturday, Gottfried will coach against
UCLA. But if Gottfried hadn't taken the Murray State job in 1995, he
might instead be the head coach at UCLA. 

Harrick was fired by UCLA athletics director Pete Dalis just 14 days
before the 1996 season began. Because the season was set to begin, Steve
Lavin, who just two years prior was the No.3 assistant behind Gottfried
and Lorenzo Romar, was chosen as the interim coach. Six seasons later
Lavin is still the head coach. 

What if? 

I get asked that question a lot, Gottfried said. I think in life you
gotta go with what happened. I think being at Murray State was a great
thing for me as a coach. To be at a place, quite honestly, where the
country really wasn't watching and evaluating helped prepare me for this
job tremendously. I really feel like the way things have worked out, I'm
where I'm supposed to be here at Alabama. 

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Re: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread William H Evans

Thanks, Coach Fran, for taking the words right out of my mouth!


bill evans
Hartselle, AL
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On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 16:25:37 -0600 (CST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Huge posted:
 
 Exactly. He'll BECOME a great QB, but he's got a ways to go before 
 he's
 there. 
 To answer your question...I'd take Zow right now, honestly. Ole 
 Miss
 only beat a Watts-led Tide by 3.
 
 Huge please let me know when you have a clue about football.  Thank 
 you
 very much.
 

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Re: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread William H Evans

Irrelevant, Hugh.

What is relevant is Zow's inconsistency.  


bill evans
Hartselle, AL
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On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 16:29:22 -0600 Hugh Wolfgang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 And how many points did Zow lead the Tide to against Auburn again, 
 Bill?
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
  Thanks, Coach Fran, for taking the words right out of my mouth!
 
 

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Re: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread William H Evans

Hugh,

You can set your conditions to judge Watts vs. Zow any way you like,
which is exactly what you are doing here.  You are only considering the
final Win/Loss from Zow's two starts, while narrowing down your look at
Watts to the fourth quarters in games WHERE ALABAMA'S DEFENSE PUT ALABAMA
BEHIND.

Looking at the total picture for Watts and Zow, a knowledgeable football
person would take the consistent Watts over the inconsistent Zow every
time.

Zow looks like Jay Barker one week and Brian Burgdorf the next.  The 31
points he put on the board against Auburn were against a defense that
quit.  Slef or I could have QBed Alabama to 31 points on that day.


bill evans
Hartselle, AL
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 16:51:41 -0600 Hugh Wolfgang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 How exactly is a 2-0 record this year inconsistent?
 I'd say that Watts has been inconsistent, too, in the 4th quarter.  
 The
 games that Bama has won the 4th quarter this year, Zow was at QB.
 
 
 -Original Message-
  Irrelevant, Hugh.
 
 What is relevant is Zow's inconsistency.  
 
 On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 16:29:22 -0600 Hugh Wolfgang
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 writes:
  And how many points did Zow lead the Tide to against Auburn again, 
 
  Bill?
 
 
 

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Re: [RollTideFan] BTW, Slef

2001-11-30 Thread William H Evans

Jeff,

We should have posted the crucial piece of info to find you: your Stetson
hat.  Rick didn't have any problems finding you at the half.

Devonna, you can blame me.  When Jeff and I sat down I suggested we move
up as far as we could (three rows) underneath the upper deck because the
rain was blowing West to East into our faces.


bill evans
Hartselle, AL
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:41:34 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Well, I'll be day-um! I probably looked right at you. We were 
 actually three
 rows further up than we were supposed to be. No one ever tried to 
 claim the
 seats so we just stayed put. Now that I think about it, I think I 
 saw you!
 You were wearing a raincoat, right?
 
 Slef
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Devonna Snuggs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Roll Tide Fan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion 
 List
 Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 8:37 AM
 Subject: [RollTideFan] BTW, Slef
 
 
 I tried to find you last night but some guys seating in your seat 
 didn't
 have a clue who you were... sorry, we did not get to meet...there's 
 always
 next year.
 RTR.  Devonna
 

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Re: [RollTideFan] 6-5

2001-11-30 Thread William H Evans

Hugh,

I think your 11-0 expectations were extremely optimistic.



bill evans
Hartselle, AL
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:53:57 -0600 Hugh Wolfgang
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I am probably going to get slaughtered for this, but
 
 At the beginning of the season, I believed we could go 11-0. 
 11 games into the season, I still believe we could have gone 11-0.
 If the team had played with the same intensity and desire in 
 September that it played with in November, Alabama would not be 
 sitting around waiting for the Music City Bowl officials to call - 
 the Tide would be preparing for Florida.  
 
 Having said that, am I surprised that the team went 6-5?  A little, 
 yes.  Disappointed?  Yes.  Devastated?  Nope.  Boston College will 
 be a tough test for this team, though.  A loss could be the 
 beginning of a long off-season.  A win, though, would give Bama - 
 no, would CONTINUE - a lot of momentum heading into a VERY tough 
 schedule in 2002.  
 
 Let's not get caught up in celebrating a win over USM for too long.  
 We NEED to WIN the Music City Bowl this time around.
 
 

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Re: [RollTideFan] Barner Humor 2

2001-11-28 Thread William H Evans

The monkey handles my computer work.  They pass them out at Auburn.

BTW - the monkey also does my reading and handles all of my
correspondence.  If it was left up to me, all of my posts would look like
this:

XXXxXXxxXXXxxx
XXxXXxXXXxxXXxxxXX



bill 'striker' evans
Hartselle, AL
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 00:17:08 -0600 Scott Rogers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Uh-oh, heeere' Kurt.
 
 Scott
 - Original Message - 
 From: William H Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  My monkey deserves the credit for that one.  g
 
 

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[RollTideFan] Franchione mum on QB

2001-11-27 Thread William H Evans

http://www.al.com/sports/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/xml/story.ssf/html_sta
ndard.xsl?/base/sports/10068561117935.xml

Franchione mum on QB 
11/27/01

STEVE KIRK
News staff writer

TUSCALOOSA The University of Alabama's starting quarterback won't be
determined solely by Tyler Watts' health anymore. 

Andrew (Zow)'s performance has to be a factor now, first-year Crimson
Tide head coach Dennis Franchione said Monday, referring to the
fifth-year senior's 22-for-29 passing performance in a 31-7 victory over
Auburn on Nov.17. 
 
Before the Auburn game, Franchione said Watts would start if he was 100
percent healthy. But that is not the case going into a 6 p.m. Thursday
kickoff between the Tide (5-5) and Southern Mississippi (6-3) at Legion
Field. 

Watts, a junior, started the first nine games of the season but hasn't
played since pulling a groin muscle in the first quarter of the
Mississippi State game Nov.10. 

Franchione didn't reveal his starter Monday, but he did defend his
decision-making concerning a quarterback debate that has surrounded this
team for three years. 

Early in the year Tyler understood the offense far better than Andrew,
Franchione said. Andrew has said that and been open about it. And it's
true. Tyler always knew where to throw the ball, and he's comprehended
the details and nuances of this offense quicker than Andrew. 

That's basically why Tyler has played. As time has gone on, Andrew has
caught up. 

Some Alabama fans have questioned Franchione's quarterback decisions to
this point. Also, some black Alabama fans have claimed in newspaper
letters to the editor and on sports talk radio shows that some white
Alabama fans don't want a black quarterback, and that Franchione's
decisions have been influenced by that. 

Zow, the school's career record-holder in total yards, plays and three
passing categories, said Monday he appreciates the support but he called
it a lot of people's opinions. ... The coaches are around us every day
and they evaluate us. And I'm not thinking they would jeopardize (the
team) by bringing race into their decisions. 

Franchione has consistently said that the best players play for his
football teams, and Zow said he doesn't look at the quarterback
competition as a black-white issue. 

I'm just looking to go out there and play, basically, Zow said. The
support I get from anybody is greatly appreciated ... But if it's (based
on) race, I think we need to probably look over that and continue to go
forward. 

Zow said he tries not to think about the issue of race. 

Wherever you go, you're going to have racism or race problems, Zow
said. But how I think is, I go out and try to be a quarterback and
overlook things like that. 

Zow agreed with Franchione on Monday. He saidthat he didn't know the
offense well early in the season. 

I've grown to understand it more and better, Zow said. I think I was
trying to get to the perfect play throughout the season. Sometimes you're
not going to have the perfect play. I believe I started learning that
throughout the season. 

Franchione said, Andrew's performance (against Auburn) is an example of
his understanding and how it's grown over the course of time. He might
have been ready to do it quicker, but we got into a rhythm with Tyler.
But he was ready to do it when he did do it. 

I know the team has confidence in both of those young men. The coaches
have confidence in both of them. 

If both of them are healthy, it's still a real competitive issue and
they'd probably both play. 

Franchione was secretive about his starting quarterback before the Auburn
game, too. Meanwhile, Auburn head coach Tommy Tuberville told anyone who
would listen that Watts would play and he prepared his team to stop the
Watts-led option running attack. 

Watts didn't play a snap. 

Whether (the uncertainty) will have as much of an impact on Southern
Miss as it appeared to have on the last game remains to be seen,
Franchione said. 

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Re: [RollTideFan] Re: Am I all alone here?

2001-11-27 Thread William H Evans

The Iron Bowl game that Dye announced his retirement the day before was
the 17-0 game in 1992.  The tornado game was 1983.


bill evans
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:27:10 -0800 (PST) James [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 That forcast is all wrong . Try weatherunderground.com
 Wasn't that Pay Dyes last game ?

 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
  Let the weather be what it may, I'll be there. 
  Anyone remember the 
  tornado bowl agains the aubs in '91 (I believe that
  was the year).  
  Legion Field was filled beyond capacity.  Let's make
  sure we fill it 
  for Bama's final regular season game this year.
   
  --
  Bobby Brake
  ROLL TIDE ROLL
  GOD BLESS AMERICA
  

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[RollTideFan] Opportunity of a lifetime!

2001-11-27 Thread William H Evans

Anybody who would like to meet me and discuss any personal issues with me
or barners in general will get their chance Thursday night!

Jeff Todd has been kind enough to procure Phil Harbison's tickets for
Thursday's game and he and I will be attending.  Do we know yet what the
scholarship tent will be serving for grub?

Is the Hugh fan club going to be meeting at Al's Crossroads West?


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Re: [RollTideFan] S. Beard Arrested For DUI

2001-11-26 Thread William H Evans

On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 19:06:31 -0500 Mike Laborde
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Why oh why? Don't these dummies ever learn?
 
 http://www.tidesports.com/features/1869topstory.html?section=football
 
 


DUI's happen every day across every spectrum of society.

The same question could be asked of *any* of them.  Beard just becomes
noticeable because he is a football player.  Meanwhile Joe Blow pays his
$2k bail and gets out of jail and awaits trial.  Somehow there are no
reporters there covering Mr. Blow's release from jail.



On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 18:31:50 -0600 kurt rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 
 fwiw, I hope CDF knows better than to convict a man who has not 
 been
 proven guilty in a court of law.
 
 kurt
 


Maybe - but this isn't a claimed case of assault or drug dealing or bank
robbery.  DUI's are typically pretty cut and dry.

When he wrecked the car at 2 AM while intoxicated (whether it holds up in
court or not) wasn't he breaking team rules?



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Re: [RollTideFan] Cecil Hurt

2001-11-26 Thread William H Evans



The ionosphere that AM frequency radio waves bounce off of RISES after the 
sun sets and pressure from the solar wind is no longer holding it down.

Therefore AM stations have a **MUCH** greater range on their signal at 
night, and a corresponding need for smaller stations to cut power. The big 
stations that are allowed by the FCC to maintain full power can be picked up 
1,000 miles away.

On I-65 outside of Hartselle around midnight I can pick up WWL (N'awlins), 
WLW (Cinci), WABC (New York), WSB (Atlanta), WLS (Chicago), and KSAT (San 
Antonio).

WABC in NYC is 770 AM. If WVNN (770 AM) in Huntsville (and all of the 
other 770's) didn't power down I wouldn't be able to pick up WABC clear as a 
bell.


bill evansHartselle, AL[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 19:48:03 -0600 "Jeff Todd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  For the love! I don't understand the need for 
  AM - Radio to 'power down' in sync with the setting sun. 
  Anyway
  
  I caught bits and pieces of Cecil Hurt on 
  Finebaum today. As best I could decipher, Hurt was saying the impending 
  football scholarship reductions would likely be in the neighborhood of TWENTY, 
  over a three year period.
  
  Certainly not good news. Let's just hope it 
  doesn't get worse.
  
  Roll Tide!!
  
  Slef
  
  


Re: [RollTideFan] Potential bowls numerous if Tide gets sixth victory

2001-11-25 Thread William H Evans

Hugh,

Nine SEC teams went 6-5 or better and went to bowls *last* year.

That is if you include a 6-5 Arkansas getting beaten by UNLV 31-14 in the
2000 Las Vegas Bowl as 'bowling'.


bill evans
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2001 18:52:12 -0600 Hugh Wolfgang
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Umm... honestly?  No.  I think it is something like 8, except you 
 can't
 count the BCS bowls in years when Bama is ineligible, so it's 
 probably more
 like 6 or 7.
 It's possible that NINE SEC teams could finish 6-5 this year.
 
 - Original Message -
  Do you know the grand total of all the bowl games Bama
  is eligible to go to in any given year?
 
   From: Hugh Wolfgang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm in a BAD mood.  However I didn't say I AGREED
   with Mr. Palm.
 
 

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[RollTideFan] Be Thankful for What We Have

2001-11-22 Thread William H Evans

There is an excellent editorial cartoon in today's Bham News.  I scanned
it and put it in the 'Terrorist Attacks' folder on the Bama-Fans web
site.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bama-fans/files/war/Stantis-11-22-01.jpg



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Re: [RollTideFan] Fwd: FW: priceless....

2001-11-21 Thread William H Evans

My monkey took the day off.


bill evans
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On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:37:42 -0600 Devonna Snuggs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 Yes, it is a WordPerfect file; help computer folks!!!
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/21/01 11:43AM 
 It appears to be a WordPerfect file (.wpd). I can't open it either.
 
 RTR!
 Rick
 

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Re: [RollTideFan][ADMIN] Got a minute?

2001-11-20 Thread William H Evans




The list admin has a piece of software installed on the listserv that 
strips all non-text out of the e-mail.

That is probably not an option here since Javvy does not actually own the 
listserv machine.


bill evansHartselle, AL[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:53:56 -0600 "Jeff Todd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes: It was a joke, really.  Bill E.  
How does au-sports manage to automatically strip messages down to  
plain text?  There has to be a simple solution to 
this.  Slef  -Original Message- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 
Tuesday, November 20, 2001 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan][ADMIN] Got 
a minute?   I vote that the next time someone violates 
either of those rules,  we discontinue the Digest. 
Period. Slef  That sounded like a Hugism. 
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[RollTideFan] Need 4 Tickets for UA-USM

2001-11-20 Thread William H Evans

If anyone has four ducats for the UA-USM game that they want to get rid
of for face value, contact me off-list.  They aren't for me, but some
friends of mine are looking.



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Re: [RollTideFan] The Irony Bowl???

2001-11-19 Thread William H Evans



Nothing funny for either side in that one, is there Scott? I 
agree.

Neither of the two intended jabs are 'funny'.


bill evansHartselle, AL[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:35:39 -0600 "Scott Rogers" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  I'm sorry, I see nothing 
  funny
  
  RTR (anyway)
  Scott
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Devan 
Orange 

Someone sent me 
this link and I thought it was funny

http://www.al.com/opinion/mobileregister/cartoons/111701_crowe.jpg
  


Re: [RollTideFan] I'm here to tell you......

2001-11-18 Thread William H Evans

Hugh - There are three months of your comments wanting to hang the coach
out to dry in the archives.  I could have posted thirty links instead of
three in my post last night.

You *HAVE* been saying that Torbush needed firing, and you *HAVE* been
asking for $7 million to buy out Fran's contract.

BTW - I told you last time that 'slander' is oral or spoken.  'Libel' is
in print.  HTH



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On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:11:44 -0600 Hugh Wolfgang
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I would have thought that a somewhat respectable member of the press
 would get his facts straight before slandering someone.
 
 
 -Original Message-
  [I've said all season that Zow should be the starter]
 
 You've said too damned much all season...like telling all of us how
 Torbush
 needs firing, and asking if we can buy out Fran's contract...
 
 Get back off the bandwagon, there's no room here.
 
 RTR!
 JRH
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 

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Re: [RollTideFan] I Get A Kick Out Of The Barners Then I Hate Them Again

2001-11-18 Thread William H Evans

It *is* spelled y'all?

Thanks for correcting me.



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On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:42:30 -0500 Mike Laborde
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Oh, and it spelled y'all.
 

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Re: [RollTideFan] Go Vote Now for the Biggest Rivalry

2001-11-17 Thread William H Evans

James,

I hate to say this, but UF-FSU is winning for the same reason that CBS
put it in prime time and put AU-UA on in the afternoon time slot: it's a
national conspiracy against Andrew Zow.

HTH HAND


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On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 08:23:56 -0800 (PST) Andrew Zow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 http://espn.go.com/espnradio
 
 
 How in the world is UF Fsu  winning ?  ROLL TIDE

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Re: [RollTideFan] I'm here to tell you......

2001-11-17 Thread William H Evans

Excuse me?  You can't be serious.  A casual look through the RTF archives
reveals these quotes:

---
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RollTideFan/message/8763

Quote from Hugh: [He demanded a 7 year contract.  He clearly didn’t think
he could get the job done in a timely fashion.  Maybe he can turn it
around between now and 2008, but I hope he doesn’t get the opportunity. 
By that time, no one will want to wear the Crimson and White.]

---
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RollTideFan/message/8229

Quote from Hugh: [Honestly, I hope he doesn't get the chance.]

---
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RollTideFan/message/8793

Quote from Hugh: [I may be overreacting, but I’m sick of people saying
bullshit about the program being on the right track.  Show me evidence
that we’re on the right track.  

As for the staggering amount of $$$ it would cost Bama to do such a thing
as firing Fran, I did ask if anyone had $7 million, didn’t I?

See, that’s what worries me greatly.  We’re over a barrel, paying these
people HUGE amounts, and they aren’t doing their jobs.  It’s tempting to
get out the contracts and read the fine print to see if there’s
justification for accusing them of breach of contract.]
---

Were you just whistling Dixie when you posted these comments?  I could go
on all night.


bill evans
Hartselle, AL
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On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 17:33:50 -0600 Hugh Wolfgang
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I can't stand by statements that I never made.
 My statements were that changes needed to be made to stop the 
 downspiral
 that the Tide was experiencing.  Obviously, they DID make changes, 
 since
 they won two games in a row for the first time all season.  
 
 -Original Message-
 Do you also stand by your statement that they shouldn't be allowed 
 to
 finish the season?
 On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 17:25:51 -0600 Hugh Wolfgang
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  And I stand by those statements.  This afternoon, they GOT the job 
 
  done.
  The whole team did.  
 
 


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Re: RE: [RollTideFan] hey Lynn....

2001-11-16 Thread William H Evans
Title: RE: RE: [RollTideFan] hey Lynn



Lynn,

You and David have been on AU-Sports for years (as long as I have) and I 
had no idea you were a Bama fan.

Glad you made it to RTF so you can come out of the 
closet.g



bill evansHartselle, AL[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 10:19:08 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I'm sure I'll get obnoxious too. What row are you on, I 
  may need to find you Actually the people we sit around (we got 
  auburn season tickets this year because of the Bama game being there) had no 
  clue I was Alabama until their last home game. I didn't go because I 
  wanted to see Alabama. David, in his weird way "warned" them ahead of 
  time. So they'll see me in my crimson and white instead of my "normal" 
  clothes. I certainly don't wear orange and blue ... EVER!! 
  I just sit there and pull for the other team quietly. They just thought I 
  wasn't into football ... they'll find out Saturday!
  ROLL TIDE!!! 
  ALABAMA 21 
  aubarn 17 
  


Re: RE: [RollTideFan] hey Lynn....

2001-11-16 Thread William H Evans
Title: RE: RE: [RollTideFan] hey Lynn



You know better than that. - ROFL

Just because I am here doesn't make me a Bama fan.

Dennis is alright most of the time. I think he is about to work 
himself into having a stroke before kickoff though. 
knock.on.wood


bill evansHartselle, AL[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 13:21:45 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  So are 
  YOU an Alabama fan I never knew that either!
  
  Roll 
  Tide!
  


Re: RE: [RollTideFan] hey Lynn....

2001-11-16 Thread William H Evans

Sonja - this is your forum.  I do not diss Bama in your own house, I just
keep my mouth shut.  Usually.

As for being here all the time, I left all summer long but had to come
back for football season so I could take notes from noted football critic
Hugh Wolfgang.  As for why I came here originally, I was ASKED to join. 
Are you asking me to leave?

As for slamming you on AU-Sports, that is just talking smack.  On the
important issues I have taken up for bammers several times.  No kidding.

BTW Sonja - exactly what have I posted on the Auburn e-mail list that
offends you?


bill evans
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On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 14:36:03 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 What Bill neglects to tell you Lynn is that he is not just an arn 
 bole week poster on RTF.  He's here all the time.  (can't understand 
 that one)
 
 And, from what I gather, somewhat of a split personality.  I was 
 looking around au-sports archives today (no, not joining the list, 
 just reading)and found some of the worst things said or agreed to 
 about Alabama was done by Mr. Evans.
 
 No one is faulting you for that Bill, but I don't understand how you 
 can be so nice to us over here and then turn around and slam us in 
 the same minute over there.
 
 It would just be a bit confusing for me.
 
 ROLL TIDE!
 Sonja 
  
  From: William H Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2001/11/16 Fri PM 01:24:53 EST
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: RE: [RollTideFan] hey Lynn
  
  You know better than that. - ROFL
  
  Just because I am here doesn't make me a Bama fan.
  
  Dennis is alright most of the time.  I think he is about to work 
 himself
  into having a stroke before kickoff though.  knock.on.wood
  
  
  bill evans
  Hartselle, AL
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 13:21:45 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  So are YOU an Alabama fan  I never knew that either!
  
  Roll Tide!
  
 

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Re: RE: [RollTideFan] hey Lynn....

2001-11-16 Thread William H Evans

Sonja, believe it or not but I post much more over there than here.  Also
many of the long threads that I get drawn into over here are either alpha
geek/tech threads or arguing with Hugh.  Those just come natural to me,
and don't involve UA/AU.

Sonja, I still would like to see what I have posted that was a complete
about face from my posts on RTF.  In the past two weeks I have
corrected some barner disinformation on CPWB and taken up for Bama people
in general.


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On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 15:15:54 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 No Bill, I am not asking you to leave.  It just amazes me how much 
 you post here and still have time to make a complete about-face on 
 the au-sports list.  It just seems like too much trouble to keep it 
 straight.
 
 
 RTR!
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 

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Re: [RollTideFan] Devan Orange VS Hugh Wolfcrack

2001-11-16 Thread William H Evans

But - How do you know that?  How can you know that anything would have
been any better for Bama with Zow at the helm?


bill evans
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On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:52:58 -0800 (PST) Thats my final Answer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Yes  and No   7-2 if Zow had Started this year.  Watts
 can't play four quarters of football.  ROLL TIDE


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Re: [RollTideFan] This is arbrin football

2001-11-16 Thread William H Evans



First, the easy comeback: La. Tech? La. Tech?!? Why would 
a Bama fan bring up La. Tech?As I have said many times: I liked it 
when CTT told the refs "Up yours!" At least he didn't start 
clapping.bill evansHartselle, AL[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 05:03:10 -0600 "Jeff Todd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  http://www.tiderinsider.com/forum/messages/5152.html
  


Re: [RollTideFan] Predictions

2001-11-16 Thread William H Evans

You're painting with that industrial sized brush again, aren't you?


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On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 21:01:30 -0500 Ron Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 
 the Klan   29
 

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Re: [RollTideFan] awbrun Prediction

2001-11-15 Thread William H Evans

I didn't say anyone was humiliated.

What I said was this: the UA-AU game is always much closer than expected.
 In 1997 AU was as heavily favored as any team has been in the Iron Bowl
in my lifetime.  UA fans were not optimistic about their chances.  Then
AU wins on the Scissum fumble and subsequent FG 18-17.

What brought this up was Hugh noticing how closely bunched the
predictions are.  I think that is because anyone who has seen 10-20 or
more Iron Bowls knows that they are always close.

9-0 was the 2000 game.


bill evans
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On Thu, 15 Nov 2001 07:40:57 -0600 Devan Orange [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 I don't really think we were the ones who were humiliated.
 All-Barn escapes with a 9-0 win (couldn't get it into the end zone) 
 against
 a 3-7 team.
 I hope you're not talking about the game.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Hugh Wolfgang
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 8:10 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] awbrun Prediction
 
 
 Honestly no, I don't remember the 1997 Iron Bowl, but I do remember 
 last
 year.  It wasn't close, despite the score.  The Tide was pretty 
 much
 humiliated.
 
 As for the another trend... I don't understand what you mean.
 
  Look at the trends Hugh.
  The Iron Bowl is always close, the better team usually wins but it 
 is
  always closer than it could be.  Remember 1997?
  Another trend is the two teams have won or lost in close games all 
 year
  long.
   Is it just me, or are all of the predictions this week VERY 
 close
   together?
 
 

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Re: Re: [RollTideFan] awbrun Prediction

2001-11-15 Thread William H Evans

Agreed.

What is memorable about a bunch of punts and three FG's?  It was a very
cold day.


bill evans
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On Thu, 15 Nov 2001 9:59:58 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Bill:
 Not because we lost, but haven't talked to anyone who really recalls 
 much about last years game.  The weather was so horrible, I know I 
 was more concerned about frostbite than the score.  
 
 When it starts raining ice right before kickoff, you know you're in 
 trouble.  This year should be much better, weather wise.
 
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[RollTideFan] Tradition? What tradition?

2001-11-15 Thread William H Evans

http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/xml/story.ssf/
html_standard.xsl?/base/news/10058193113309.xml

Tradition? What tradition? 
11/15/01

MIKE BOLTON
News staff writer

For multitudes of football fans in this state, Alabama-Auburn week will
always conjure memories of Bear Bryant and Shug Jordan going toe-to-toe
on crisp fall afternoons at Legion Field. 

But while fans might be convinced such battles will never be forgotten,
some players who will take the field Saturday in Auburn have little or no
concept of the past. 

None of the players on the Auburn University team was born when Jordan
roamed the sidelines for his final season in 1975. In fact, most had yet
to be born when Jordan died on July 17, 1980. 

The younger players on the University of Alabama squad were not born when
Bryant coached his final game in 1982. None was older than 4 when Bryant
died six months later. 

It's been great not only playing against Auburn, but also to learn about
the rivalry, said Andrew Zow, the senior quarterback who came off the
bench to lead Alabama to victory over Mississippi State last week. Being
from Florida, I really don't know much about the history. I still don't
know much about Bear Bryant. 

In Auburn, memorabilia from the well-loved Jordan is common in the
athletic complex. Still, Auburn's current players know little about the
man who coached the Tigers for 25 years and led them to their only
national championship. 

He must have been a pretty good guy and a good coach because I do know
they named a stadium after him, Auburn junior tight end Lorenzo Diamond
said. That's about all I know about him. I know about rolling Toomer's
Corner and the eagle flying around the stadium, but that's about all I
know about Auburn tradition. I go out and play football. I don't worry
about tradition. 

Even Auburn junior offensive lineman Ryan Hockett, a distant relative of
Jordan, knows little about him. 

Wasn't he like one of the most winning coaches around here or
something? Hockett asked. I know he's like a legend around here. His
picture is all around here. I've seen him mentioned in a couple books. 

Senior kicker Neal Thomas is one of many Crimson Tide players who know
little of Bryant. 

I've looked into the history a little bit since I've been here, but I
really don't know much about it except for the past few years, Thomas
said. I don't really have much knowledge of Bear Bryant other than what
I've read. 

Santonio Beard, an Alabama sophomore, admits his knowledge of the rivalry
is shallow. 

About all I know is that Alabama owns the all-time series, he said. Of
course, Alabama owns the all-time series against most teams. I do know
that 1999 was the last time Auburn lost in Jordan-Hare. I don't go back
much farther than that. 

Auburn tries to teach its players about tradition by bringing in former
players and coaches, but head coach Tommy Tuberville admits it's lost on
some. 

Like most kids today, they are more interested in the present and the
future than the past, Tuberville said. 

Auburn athletic director David Housel said it's natural that players from
both schools lack a grasp of the past. 

It's just part of the never-ending march of time, said. You've got to
remember that it was 15 years ago that Lawyer Tillman ran the reverse in
the Auburn-Alabama game and 16 years ago that Van Tiffin kicked the field
goal. 

It was 30 years ago that Pat Sullivan won the Heisman Trophy. More time
has elapsed since Bo Jackson won the Heisman than the period between the
time when Pat won it and Bo won it. 

It's hard for many of us to believe, but Carnell Williams probably
doesn't know how he fits into the Auburn running back tradition. For him,
Bo Jackson is a historical figure. It's the same thing for Coach Jordan
and Coach Bryant. 

Auburn punter Damon Duval says he has seen Jackson around practice a few
times, but doesn't remember him playing. 

Sorry, Duval said. I wasn't born until 1980. I was a baby when Bo
Jackson played. 

Asked about several landmark games in the Alabama-Auburn series, such as
the 1972 contest when Auburn blocked two punts and an extra point to win
17-16, Auburn center Ben Nowland appeared a little embarrassed. 

Hey man, I grew up in Florida. 

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Re: [RollTideFan] Daylight Savings Time

2001-11-15 Thread William H Evans

Is should read 3:30 EST is what he is telling you.

We are now on 'standard' time.


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On Thu, 15 Nov 2001 10:40:35 -0500 Mike Laborde
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Yes. That is why it says 3:30 EDT.
 
 
 Javvy
 
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 Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Daylight Savings Time
 
 
 Clocks have already been switched, Javvy. Check the
 game time for the Arn Bowl at the RTF website. It is
 still in EDT ???
 
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Re: [RollTideFan] arbarin predictions

2001-11-14 Thread William H Evans



My pick:AU 26UA 22Carnell Williams drop 
kicks a 67 yard FG on the last play of the first half.Franchione 
will fake a punt. on a third down. g
I truly hope every Bama fangoing to Auburn this weekend has a safe 
trip.



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On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 16:19:00 -0600 "Jeff Todd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  Slef needs a favor. 
  
  Please resend your prediction with the word 
  Prediction in the subject line. If you haven't already sent in a prediction, 
  now would be a good time to do so.
  
  Thanks and
  
  Roll Tide!!
  
  Slef
  
  BAMA - 23
  
  arbarin- 22
  


Re: [RollTideFan] arbarin predictions

2001-11-14 Thread William H Evans

I agree 100%.

BTW guys - if Bama wins, leave the grass and goal posts alone.  Those
water sprinklers^H^H^H^Hcannons are deadly!


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On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 17:43:15 -0600 Rick McMahan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 A toast - to the greatest football rivalry on earth!
 
 ROLL TIDE ROLL!!
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Re: [RollTideFan] awbrun Prediction

2001-11-14 Thread William H Evans

Look at the trends Hugh.

The Iron Bowl is always close, the better team usually wins but it is
always closer than it could be.  Remember 1997?

Another trend is the two teams have won or lost in close games all year
long.


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On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 19:49:31 -0600 Hugh Wolfgang
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Is it just me, or are all of the predictions this week VERY close 
 together?
 

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Re: [RollTideFan] awbrun Prediction

2001-11-14 Thread William H Evans

The other trend is AU 24, Vandy 21; UA 12, Vandy 9, etc.

Both Auburn and Alabama have played a lot of close games this season.



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On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 20:10:00 -0600 Hugh Wolfgang
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 As for the another trend... I don't understand what you mean.
 
  Look at the trends Hugh.
  The Iron Bowl is always close, the better team usually wins but it 
 is
  always closer than it could be.  Remember 1997?
  Another trend is the two teams have won or lost in close games all 
 year
  long.
   Is it just me, or are all of the predictions this week VERY 
 close
   together?
 

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Re: [RollTideFan] Week 9 Prediction Winners

2001-11-11 Thread William H Evans

Go 'Cocks!  Beat Florida!

Hu...  Too late to say that.

Go 'Cocks!  Beat Clemson!



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On Sat, 10 Nov 2001 22:30:46 -0600 Jeff Todd
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 Florida / USC - Bill Evans
 
 
 http://www.rolltidefan.net/weeklypredictions.htm
 
 

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[RollTideFan] Fortunately for Tide, Zow not a quitter

2001-11-11 Thread William H Evans

Nice article about Zow in the morning paper.

I expect Watts will start next Saturday, even if he is only 90% healthy.


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http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/sports/columns/01a.shtml

Fortunately for Tide, Zow not a quitter 
MARK EDWARDS

TUSCALOOSA -- When Alabama wins a game, head coach Dennis Franchione
usually makes his obligatory Way to go speech to his team before giving
out a game ball. But he couldn't wait Saturday. 

The Crimson Tide head coach skipped all the congratulations, except for
the ones he wanted to shower on senior quarterback Andrew Zow.
Immediately after Franchione and his assistant coaches herded the players
into the locker room following a 24-17 win over Mississippi State on
Saturday, he stood in front of the room and began searching the crowd. 

Where's Andrew Zow? he asked. Where's Andrew Zow? 

Several teammates pushed Zow to the front of the room with Franchione,
who awarded him the first game ball of his college football career. After
not playing much all season, Zow led Alabama to a pair of fourth-quarter
touchdowns and a come-from-behind victory. 

After giving the football to Zow, Franchione told the players, You
should be proud that he's on your team. 

Zow smiled and bowed his head as his teammates chanted, Drew, Drew,
Drew. 

Franchione may have enjoyed this moment as much as any this season. He
got to reward someone who not only helped win a game but also smoothed
the way for the Franchione regime this season. 

Zow, a senior, started for three years under former head coach Mike
DuBose, but when Franchione arrived after last season, junior Tyler Watts
proved he was better. Watts learned the offense more precisely than Zow
and showed an ability to play mistake-free and keep Alabama out of
negative-yardage plays -- two attributes Franchione values heavily. 

Still, even though Watts won the job fair and square, Franchione couldn't
help but wonder how Zow would handle the demotion. As it turned out, he
didn't need to worry. 

Zow continued to display the same enthusiasm and leadership that he did
when he started. He showed he was willing to follow the new coach, and
plenty of his friends on the team followed his example. 

He's never sat on the sideline saying he was ticked off at not getting
to play, said senior receiver Jason McAddley, who was Zow's roommate for
2½ years. He's always into the game, and if he sees something he thinks
might help, he'll come up and say something. He's supportive of Tyler and
the whole team. 

Zow got his chance Saturday because Watts suffered an injured groin
muscle in his left leg in the opening quarter. He left the game and never
returned, even though he stayed on the sideline dressed in his uniform. 

Afterward, Watts walked off the field, limping badly. He left the locker
room riding the back of a golf cart driven by an Alabama trainer. 

Franchione doesn't like to discuss injuries publicly. So when a reporter
asked about Watts' status for this week's Auburn game, he smiled and
answered, Don't ask me that. 

Pressed, Franchione added, He'll be ready to play next week. 

He also said that Watts could've played again Saturday if needed,
although that seems a little far-fetched. Watts didn't appear ready to
play anytime soon. 

So who knows if Zow will have more chances for glory? It might be nice to
see him get at least one more chance, though. After throwing for 157
yards Saturday, he is only 17 behind former All-American Jay Barker on
Alabama's all-time passing yards list. 

Zow said he would love to have that record, but then he smiled and added,
I'm not going to cry about it if I don't get it. 

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Re: [RollTideFan] UGA

2001-11-11 Thread William H Evans

Hugh,

They may not have all the dates finalized but they do know who the
opponents are.



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Alabama - Permanent: Tennessee. Rotating: at Vanderbilt, vs. Georgia in
2002; at Georgia, vs. Kentucky in 2003; at Kentucky, vs. South Carolina
in 2004; at South Carolina, vs. Florida in 2005; at Florida, vs.
Vanderbilt in 2006. 

Arkansas - Permanent: South Carolina. Rotating: at Tennessee, vs.
Kentucky in 2002; at Kentucky, vs. Florida in 2003; at Florida, vs.
Georgia in 2004; at Georgia, vs. Vanderbilt in 2005; at Vanderbilt, vs.
Tennessee in 2006. 

Auburn - Permanent: Georgia. Rotating: at Florida, vs. Vanderbilt in
2002; at Vanderbilt, vs. Tennessee in 2003; at Tennessee, vs. Kentucky in
2004; at Kentucky, vs. South Carolina in 2005; at South Carolina, vs.
Florida in 2006. 

Florida - Permanent: LSU. Rotating: vs. Auburn, at Ole Miss in 2002; vs.
Ole Miss, at Arkansas in 2003; vs. Arkansas, at Mississippi State in
2004; vs. Mississippi State, at Alabama in 2005; vs. Alabama, at Auburn
in 2006. 

Georgia - Permanent: Auburn. Rotating: vs. Ole Miss, at Alabama in 2002;
vs. Alabama, at LSU in 2003; vs. LSU, at Arkansas in 2004; vs. Arkansas,
at Mississippi State in 2005; vs. Mississippi State, at Ole Miss in 2006.

Kentucky - Permanent: Mississippi State. Rotating: vs. LSU, at Arkansas
in 2002; vs. Arkansas, at Alabama in 2003; vs. Alabama, at Auburn in
2004; vs. Auburn, at Ole Miss in 2005; vs. Ole Miss, at LSU in 2006. 

LSU - Permanent: Florida. Rotating: at Kentucky, vs. South Carolina in
2002; at South Carolina, vs. Georgia in 2003; at Georgia, vs. Vanderbilt
in 2004; at Vanderbilt, vs. Tennessee in 2005; at Tennessee, vs. Kentucky
in 2006. 

Ole Miss - Permanent: Vanderbilt. Rotating: at Georgia, vs. Florida in
2002; at Florida, vs. South Carolina in 2003; at South Carolina, vs.
Tennessee in 2004; at Tennessee, vs. Kentucky in 2005; at Kentucky, vs.
Georgia in 2006. 

Mississippi State - Permanent: Kentucky. Rotating: at South Carolina, vs.
Tennessee in 2002; at Tennessee, vs. Vanderbilt in 2003; at Vanderbilt,
vs. Florida in 2004; at Florida, vs. Georgia in 2005; at Georgia, vs.
South Carolina in 2006. 

South Carolina - Permanent: Arkansas. Rotating: vs. Mississippi State, at
LSU in 2002; vs. LSU, at Ole Miss in 2003; vs. Ole Miss, at Alabama in
2004; vs. Alabama, at Auburn in 2005; vs. Auburn, at Mississippi State in
2006. 

Tennessee - Permanent: Alabama. Rotating: vs. Arkansas, at Mississippi
State in 2002; vs. Mississippi State, at Auburn in 2003; vs. Auburn, at
Ole Miss in 2004; vs. Ole Miss, at LSU in 2005; vs. LSU, at Arkansas in
2006. 

Vanderbilt - Permanent: Ole Miss. Rotating: vs. Alabama, at Auburn in
2002; vs. Auburn, at Mississippi State in 2003; vs. Mississippi State, at
LSU in 2004; vs. LSU, at Arkansas in 2005; vs. Arkansas, at Alabama in
2006. 



On Sun, 11 Nov 2001 09:53:51 -0600 Hugh Wolfgang
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I didn't think the '02 schedule had been finalized, with the changes 
 to the
 SEC scheduling system being made next year?
 
 In any case, yes, Richt should be ashamed of the call made at the 
 end of the
 game.  That was just pure and simply STUPID.
 
 
  You do mean paying attention as Georgia GAVE auburn the
  game, right?
   I hope everyone was paying attention to arbrin vs. UGA, 
 yesterday
  afternoon.
   BAMA and UGA are scheduled to lock horns in Tuscaloosa on 
 10/5/02.
 
 
 
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Re: [RollTideFan] Last play of UGA/Au Game...

2001-11-11 Thread William H Evans

Tuberville goes for it ALL the time.  A lot of those times he fails.  

He does give opposing coaches something to think about, that is for sure.
 How many teams run the sweep as a standard play out of their punt
formation?  Opposing teams have to prepare for that stuff.

Long.story.short: I hate it when it fails, but I understand why he does
it so often.  The specific time you were thinking about I was saying
'GO!'.  It was only three inches AU needed, and Duval had just shanked
two punts in a row.


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On Sun, 11 Nov 2001 10:02:20 -0600 Rick McMahan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Hey Bill, serious question, and no I'm trying to start anything by 
 asking
 this.
 What did you think of Tub's going for it on 4th down inside his OWN 
 20 in
 the 2nd quarter trailing by 7 at the time. I couldn't believe he did 
 it. It
 worked out for him, but man, the game could have turned to UGA's 
 favor big
 time if AU had not of converted.
 
 RDT!
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[RollTideFan] BPH Game Preview

2001-11-10 Thread William H Evans

http://www.postherald.com/ba111001.shtml

One final chance 
Tide, seniors have no breathing room 

By Greg Wallace 
BIRMINGHAM POST-HERALD

TUSCALOOSA — When Jason McAddley, Freddie Milons, and the rest of their
senior classmates entrusted their careers to the University of Alabama
one cold February afternoon, they surely had vivid dreams of roaring
crowds and a rousing sendoff from Bryant-Denny Stadium as revered
football legends on this day, their last in the Crimson Tide's true home.


If you had suggested they'd be fighting for their postseason lives and
trying to win just their fourth home game in two seasons, they'd have
dismissed you as crazy, foolish, or an Auburn fan. 

But as Alabama (3-5, 2-4 SEC) prepares to face Mississippi State (2-5,
1-4 SEC) at 11:30 a.m. today, these are the stinging realities: Today's
loser will be eliminated from postseason play, and if Alabama falls, it
will clinch its first consecutive losing seasons since 1955-57.
Furthermore, the Tide has won just three of its past seven games in
Bryant-Denny Stadium. 

All of which has McAddley flustered and searching for solutions. 

I think we've played well, he said. We've gotten the worst of
circumstances. Sometimes the record doesn't show how good a team is. Our
record is lot better than it shows. But we go out on game day, and it
doesn't happen. It's like, 'What are we doing wrong?'  

Four consecutive SEC losses — including three games where Alabama blew a
fourth-quarter lead — have pushed the Tide to the edge of bowl
elimination. To qualify for a bowl game, Alabama must win its last three
games — today, at Auburn, and against Southern Miss Nov. 29 at Legion
Field — and hope a bowl committee deems it worthy. Even with three
victories, it is possible Alabama won't qualify for one of the seven SEC
bowl slots and will have to hope for an at-large bid. 

No room for error; every game is a must. 

Even if we win it, the next game's still going to be a sudden-death
match for a bowl or no bowl, McAddley said. We have to win out if we
want to go to a bowl. This week's big in that aspect, just like the next
week will be big, and the week after that will be big. 

Mississippi State provides the perfect remedy; after beating Memphis in
the season opener, the Bulldogs lost five consecutive before rallying
past SEC patsy Kentucky last week. 

Four-year starting quarterback Wayne Madkin has struggled, and was pulled
at halftime last week, watching sophomore Kevin Fant rally the ÃDogs to
victory. MSU Coach Jackie Sherrill says the two will split time today,
but the starter is unknown. 

Injuries in the Bulldogs' offensive line and to star tailback Dicenzo
Miller have turned the MSU run attack from strength to liability.
Overall, MSU averages only 125 yards on the ground, 11th in the SEC, and
its scoring offense is last in the nation at 12 ppg. 

Momentum careened out of Sherrill's control, with the ebb a 21-9
homecoming loss to I-A newcomer Troy State. 

After you look at all of our circumstances this season and the way
certain things have happened, it's not tough to believe that we are
entering this game fighting for our postseason lives, he said. A lot of
people like to immediately point to coaching. But there has just been
things we couldn't control happen to this team. 

Expect MSU, as usual, to pound the ball at Alabama's defensive front,
which would be a relief to Alabama defensive coordinator Carl Torbush,
whose job security became questionable this week after LSU scorched his
defense for 611 yards, an Alabama-worst. MSU averages only 195 yards per
game passing. 

If Sherrill steps out of character and lets his quarterbacks heave it,
the secondary — which gave up 528 passing yards last week — must show
improvement. 

The key for us is making sure that we put those guys in the very, very
best position to have a chance to be successful, Torbush said. And then
when we do, they have to tackle well and make some plays. 

The secondary's struggles have been blamed on youth, a common trait on
this team. Of the 22 seniors making their Bryant-Denny farewell today,
only McAddley, Milons, Terry Jones Jr., and Neal Thomas will start, and
few others have lent significant contributions. 

Alabama Coach Dennis Franchione said they won't know what they had until
it is gone. 

It's a hard time young men have at this age, he said. You have to lose
what you have to appreciate it. We talk lot about that. Enjoying four
years, enjoying each game, enjoying the grind because it won't always be
there. 

Milons isn't concerned with a home finale; he just wants the next two
weeks to matter. 

A win would mean so much to me, he said. To the players, to the whole
program, to get a win. Get over the hump. All I know is wins. I don't
want to make a habit of losing. 

Alabama scouting report 

WHO: Alabama (3-5, 2-4 SEC) vs. Mississippi State (2-5, 1-4 SEC).

ALL EYES ON: Alabama receiver Freddie Milons. This is Milons'
Bryant-Denny farewell, and he has plenty of 

[RollTideFan] Man charged with trying to take gun aboard plane

2001-11-09 Thread William H Evans

Jason,

I looked all over the place last night and couldn't find a link.  AL.com
would be a lot more useful with a 'search' function.

Luckily they ran a follow up article today.


bill evans
Hartselle, AL
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http://www.al.com/news/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/xml/story.ssf/html_stand
ard.xsl?/base/news/10053009232845636.xml

Man charged with trying to take gun aboard plane 
11/09/01

VAL WALTON
News staff writer

A doctor accused of trying to carry a hidden gun and two knives aboard an
airplane at Birmingham International Airport surrendered to authorities
Thursday to face a federal weapons charge. 

The U.S. attorney's office in Birmingham charged 46-year-old Richard D.
Price with attempting to board an aircraft with a concealed weapon. The
charge carries a sentence of up to 10 years in prison. Price also faces
state misdemeanor charges of carrying a concealed weapon and violating
the state firearms act. 
 
Price's Oct. 25 arrest came as airports and airlines heightened security
after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks in New York and Washington. 

Price appeared before a magistrate Thursday afternoon with his attorney,
Richard Jaffe, before being released on a $500 unsecured bond. The
magistrate gave Price a general order not to possess any weapons while
out on bond and also ordered Price to undergo mental health treatment. 

Court papers said Price acknowledged when questioned that he attempted to
board the plane with the weapons because he did not believe that the
airline had provided adequate security. 

In an interview with The Birmingham News, Price, who has been dismissed
from his medical resident's position at the University of Alabama at
Birmingham, said that when he ordered his ticket to Seattle from Delta
Airlines by phone, he asked what guarantee there was for his and other
passengers' safety. He said the answer did not satisfy his concerns. 

Jaffe described Price as well-meaning. 

The U.S. attorney has no choice but to take all these cases seriously
and I'm glad they are, Jaffe said. I think in the end when all of the
information surfaces, I think that Dr. Price's true well-meaning
intentions will be clear and apparent. 

Price checked in at the ticket counter and attempted to pass through the
security checkpoint to the gate area, when security detected the outline
of a handgun in his carry-on bag through an X-ray image, according to an
affidavit prepared by FBI special agent Mark Sawyer . 

Birmingham police asked Price where the gun was and Price directed
officers to a package wrapped like a Christmas gift, according to the
affidavit. Inside was a peanut can that held a loaded .22-caliber gun
wrapped inside two $20 bills, placed inside a clear plastic bag and
covered with peanuts, court papers said. 

Authorities said Price also told police there was a switchblade knife in
the shaving kit that was wrapped in foil, apparently to blend in with
medical instruments found nearby within the bag. 

Security also found that the cane Price used contained a steel 18-inch
sword. 

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Re: [RollTideFan] Crazy question (non-UA)

2001-11-08 Thread William H Evans

He was more than a student; he was a faculty member on the way to a
medical conference somewhere.

I read an article about it and he was released on $800 bail that night. 
He was only charged with carrying a concealed weapon, which I thought was
strange, but that explains how he was able to make bail.  He was fired
the next week from UAB.

I'll look for a link.


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On Thu, 8 Nov 2001 20:36:17 -0600 Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 Most schools don't want felons wandering around campus.
 
 Slef
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Laborde [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thursday, November 08, 2001 8:29 PM
 Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Crazy question (non-UA)
 
 
 IF this is true then how in the hell could he be expelled for 
 something he
 did at the airport. he would have had to been going on a 
 school-sponsored
 trip or something.
 
 Javvy
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of Jason Houston
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 9:26 PM
 To: Roll Tide Fan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion 
 List
 Subject: [RollTideFan] Crazy question (non-UA)
 
 
 This may sound crazy, but have any of you heard anything about some 
 medical
 resident/student from UAB being expelled because he tried to 
 smuggle a
 knife
 or a gun onto a plane for his own protection?
 
 Supposedly he tried to smuggle it on in a peanut jar???
 
 My mom told me this at supper tonight, and I can find nothing about 
 it on
 any news archives.  She claims it was in our local paper Monday or 
 Tuesday.
 
 Anyone heard anything along those lines?  Is there a link anywhere 
 to an
 article?
 
 Thanks, and sorry for the off-topic goose chase...
 
 RTR!
 JRH
 
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Re: [RollTideFan] We want win any more games with Watts as Qb You can take th...

2001-11-04 Thread William H Evans

Everybody has to be good at something.  Slef has found his niche.  vbg



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On Sun, 04 Nov 2001 19:00:30 -0500 Phillip L. Harbison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Jeff Todd wrote:
  Please resend your message with proper punctuation and
  capitalization.
 
 WH4T R U $0M3 K1ND 0F LANGW3DG3  5P3LL1N6 K0P?!
 
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Re: [RollTideFan] NCAA reduces charge

2001-11-03 Thread William H Evans

Jeff,

I am going to cross post something that I posted to AU-Sports to answer
why people like to talk about UA.

-
- Forwarded message --
From: William H Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 20:27:53 -0500
Subject: Re: [aus] Another Meltdown on TI

Since you haven't been around that long, I'll tell you that actually I
have pretty much been in a minority amongst Auburn people in attempting
to maintain a Bama-neutral stance in watching their games.  I have been
that way since 1997 when I noticed the bammers in my family took a game
played by 18-22 year old boy's *WAY* too seriously.  I couldn't stand to
pull against them week after week and hear them bitch and moan all the
next week so I stopped.

BTW - you didn't say whether you pulled for UA or UT today.  Pray tell
please enlighten us as to who you pulled for.


bill evans
Hartselle, AL
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On Sat, 20 Oct 2001 20:19:16 -0400 Rock Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Wouldn't you rather Bama be ranked (highly) and at the top of their 
 game
 when they played Auburn? Wouldn't that make the game so much more
 meaningful?
 
-

As much as it might pain me to say this, I am going to say it: Auburn
people, like most people (maybe 98% of the people I have met of all teams
fans) like to revel in the misfortunes of others.

In case you haven't noticed, there is a *LOT* of this in sports.  ($1 to
Bill Buckner) ($1 to Al Downing) ($1 to the Buffalo Bills)

I could come up with examples of this all night.

Luckily, this mostly is contained to the part of the human experience we
call 'sports'.  You don't see people dancing around saying The bank
foreclosed on your house, the bank foreclosed on your house..  That
kind of stuff goes on all the time in sports.

But the point is, that due to the baser human impulses to talk about the
other guys and how screwed up they are, and a few extremely 'thread
worthy' news items coming out of Tuscaloosa the past 18 months, and I'll
admit that we have talked about UA a whole lot the past 18 months. 
Before the internet was around this was called 'gossip'.  

I still don't think it was anywhere near 10%-15% of the total year's
traffic, much less half of the sports related traffic.  You see, I was
exaggerating about that 'cat' thread.  We actually had 125 messages that
day about Terry Bowden in addition to that 'cat' thread.  But I see your
point, those Terry Bowden posts weren't sports related either.  If we are
going to go that route, couldn't we say that the CMD/Little Debbie posts
and UA-NCAA posts weren't sports related either?

Auburn people pull against Alabama, and vice-versa.  It's expected.  When
they get their wish, they celebrate.  It's human.  I will remind you that
a very high percentage of the posts on RTF last week were
'Siie Pig!'.

It happens, it's no big deal, and you should get used to it.

BTW - what I said in the post above was true.  And I believe you have
heard me say that the 1997 Iron Bowl was what lead me to at least
*attempt* to see where I personally was acting this way.  I no longer
really pull against Bama like I used to.  Seeing Ed Scissum cry like he
did after the Arians screen pass, I will *attempt* to never pull against
anyone or wish misfortune AT ALL (especially in sports) the rest of my
life.

BTW #2 - Please mention that much of the recent discussion of Bama
amongst the barners is an incredulity at Bama fans wanting to fire
Franchione. ($1 to Hugh)


bill evans
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On Sat, 3 Nov 2001 02:08:11 -0600 Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 I've said it before and I'll say it again.
 
 You aubies are some of the most knowledgeable BAMA Football 
 Historians on
 the face of our earth. I'll give you credit. Y'all are well schooled 
 in BAMA
 History. Hell, I guess y'all needed something to occupy your time. 
 It only
 takes about 15 minutes to memorize the storied history of arbrin 
 football.
 
 You should be alarmed by the fact that BAMA dominates the daily 
 *SPORTS*
 related discussions on your list. To say youse guys have a 
 'terminal
 inferiority complex' would be an understatement.
 
 I must close now. But, before I go I need to remind you...BAMA 
 IS GONNA
 WHIP arbins *ASS* on November 17th!
 
 Roll Tide!!
 
 Slef
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: William H Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Saturday, November 03, 2001 1:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] NCAA reduces charge
 
 
 Jeff,
 
 Fascinating.  ($1 to Spock)  We talk 'Star Trek' year round as 
 well.
 
 Semi-seriously though, in the year or year and a half you have 
 been
 lurking on AU-Sports, what has happened at UA?
 
 1) You had just gotten through with the last item in the 
 CMD/Little
 Debbie saga with his fine of $360k.
 2) Then you start out #3 and go 3-8
 3) NCAA comes to town as you fire your coach
 4) Coaching search
 5) Franchione hire
 
 Those

Re: [RollTideFan] NCAA reduces charge

2001-11-03 Thread William H Evans




But back to my original question: There are TV reports that the Ivy 
Williams charges are going to be dropped.

http://www.tiderinsider.com/forum/messages/12509876.html

Comments? 


bill evansHartselle, AL[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 03 Nov 2001 04:26:02 -0500 "Phillip L. Harbison" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 
William H Evans wrote:  But seriously, if Bama gets (let's just 
guess) half the charges  dropped, wouldn't that put them officially 
into them into  'untouchable' status?  After being 
gang-raped by the NCAA in 1995, I don't think we can ever be considered 
"untouchable".  --  Phil Harbison mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


[RollTideFan] NCAA reduces charge

2001-11-02 Thread William H Evans

I just looked back through my e-mail and I didn't see any discussion of
this today.

Comments?  You guys holding your breath till you see if this ends up
being true?

There is also a report on TI that UA has called a press conference for
tomorrow involving Ivy Williams.

When will UA start wearing gold helmets?


bill evans
Hartselle, AL
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---

http://www.al.com/sports/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/xml/story.ssf/html_sta
ndard.xsl?/base/sports/10046961191741035.xml

NCAA reduces charge 
11/02/01

STEVE KIRK
News staff writer

TUSCALOOSA The NCAA enforcement staff has lessened at least one major
charge against the University of Alabama football program, a source
familiar with the investigation confirmed Thursday. 

Meanwhile, interviews with sources familiar with the case indicate that
Alabama has offered a self-imposed penalty of no more than 20 scholarship
cuts over no more than three years. The self-imposed penalty also
includes recruiting restrictions and may include a fine. 
 
The NCAA's official letter of inquiry on Sept. 5 leveled 16 charges,
including three major charges involving the 1995-97 recruitment of
Stevenson's Kenny Smith and the 1999-2000 recruitment of Memphis' Albert
Means. Those three charges pertained mostly to the actions of boosters
Logan Young, Wendell Smith or Ray Keller. 

Although the university officially disassociated the boosters in its Oct.
24 written response, it also contested some of the allegations connected
with those three charges. That included an argument by Alabama that the
NCAA's 5-year statute of limitations had expired in the Smith case. 

University officials met with the enforcement staff Tuesday at a
pre-hearing at Indianapolis, in preparation for a Nov. 17 appearance
before the NCAA's Committee on Infractions. Although details were not
clear, that meeting led to the enforcement staff reducing the allegations
connected with at least one of the charges that stemmed from the Smith or
Means recruitment. 

Alabama's statute of limitations argument in the Smith case appeared more
likely to be considered by the infractions committee than by the
enforcement staff, because the enforcement staff deemed it appropriate to
include in the original charges. 

Alabama faculty athletics representative Gene Marsh and attorney Stan
Murphy would not comment on the matter. 

But Murphy said that university officials were meeting to determine
whether they could make public any information without violating a
confidentiality agreement with the NCAA. If so, a statement could be
forthcoming. 

The NCAA will not comment on the case until the committee on infractions
announces its findings. That announcement is expected in January. 

It can choose to either accept Alabama's self-imposed penalties included
in the Oct. 24 response or place additional penalties on the program. 

Meanwhile, the purpose of Tuesday's meeting was for the accuser (the
enforcement staff) and defendant (the university) to go over all 16
itemized charges, making clear which ones they agree and disagree on
before the hearing. 

On Tuesday, the enforcement staff decided to make alterations. Several
are expected as it prepares its case summary to present to the
infractions committee. 

The case summary will outline both sides' positions on each charge and
list whether they agree. The committee will use it as a guide for the
hearing. 

Although that hearing is scheduled for the same day as the annual
Alabama-Auburn game at Jordan-Hare Stadium, university officials pushed
hard to be included on that docket, because the next committee meeting
isn't scheduled until February. 

University president Andrew Sorensen and Athletics Director Mal Moore
will miss the game to be at Indianapolis, along with Marsh, Murphy,
university compliance director Marie Robbins and outside attorney Rich
Hilliard, a former NCAA investigator from the Ice Miller law firm at
Indianapolis. 

Former Alabama assistant coaches Ronnie Cottrell and Ivy Williams, both
accused of unethical conduct in the NCAA's charges, will be represented
at the hearing. They are allowed to take part in discussions pertaining
to their charges only. 

The alleged violations occurred during the coaching regimes of Mike
DuBose and Gene Stallings, but current Crimson Tide head coach Dennis
Franchione will appear before the committee by videotape, telephone, or
both. 

Franchione is expected to talk about the current staff's commitment to
following the rules. 

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Re: [RollTideFan] NCAA reduces charge

2001-11-02 Thread William H Evans




-- likewise --


On Sat, 3 Nov 2001 00:59:52 -0600 "Jeff Todd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes: comments embedded~~  -Original 
Message----- From: William H Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
Roll Tide Fan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion  List 
Roll Tide Fan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion 
List Date: Saturday, November 03, 2001 12:33 AM Subject: 
[RollTideFan] NCAA reduces charge   I just looked 
back through my e-mail and I didn't see any  discussion of 
this today. Comments?  Apparently you failed to 
read your arbrin e-mail. 


I saw those messages. You know I did because I speculated it would be 
the Stevenson charges that were dropped. I am talking about *this* 
list.


 As usual, BAMA is  the main topic of discussion on the 
arbrin list. 


Just like Auburn was the main topic on this listlast Saturday. 
I know you were beating 'off', so you didn't have much else to talk about. 
Well, we are beating 'off' all week long this week, so we don't have anything 
else to talk about.

Besides, NCAA = Newsworthy for most people. Especially barners. 
We wrote that book, remember?

FWIW - I dispute your claim that UA was the main topic of conversation this 
week on AU-Sports. Of over 300 messages on that list on Wednesday when 
this first came out, less than 20 were about this. The rest were about 
cats. g

 You guys holding your breath till you see if this ends up 
being  true?  Wouldn't that be the smart thing to 
do? 


Yes it would. Can't blame anybody there, especially since it is an 
unnamed source.

 There is also a report on TI that UA has called a press 
conference  for tomorrow involving Ivy Williams. 
 A *REPORT*, or barner bait? 


I am talking about these:

http://www.tiderinsider.com/forum/messages/12509876.html

http://www.tiderinsider.com/forum/messages/12509843.html

 When will UA start wearing gold helmets?  
EXACTLY one day after arbrin wins a National Championship. In other 
words..NEVER! 


I knew you would love that one.

But seriously, if Bama gets (let's just guess) half the charges dropped, 
wouldn't that put them officially into them into 'untouchable' status?

 Roll Tide!!  Slef  

bill evansHartselle, AL[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [RollTideFan] Da Line

2001-11-01 Thread William H Evans

That is what I was saying last night: just take the 50/50 straight bet
and pay the 10% vigorish if you lose.

I am sorry Sonja for getting into this discussion, but I was answering a
question.  My bad.  I'll ignore these types of questions in the future. 
g



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On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 08:22:46 -0600 (CST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
 I had rather lay the 4 for $100 and win 100, or if I lost it would 
 be
 $110.
 

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Re: [RollTideFan] Da Line

2001-10-31 Thread William H Evans

That is a 'odds' bet rather than a 'line' bet.

Plunk down $100 on LSU at a sports bookie window in Vegas, if you win,
you get $170.

Bet $100 on UA, if you win, you get $200.

But I am just guessing from looking at the numbers.  I don't have a clue
to explain the +/- signs.



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On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 23:16:06 -0500 Mike Laborde
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I dunno Ricky. Copy and paste, bay-bee, copy and paste. I'm sure 
 there are
 some gamblers on the list (HEY HIGH!!!) that can hulp us out! The 
 source was
 http://www.rolltidefan.net/weeklyschedule.htm.
 
 Javvy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jeff Todd
 
 LSU PICK +170
 ALABAMA PICK -200
 
 Splain that one, Lucy.
 
 
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Re: [RollTideFan] Da Line

2001-10-31 Thread William H Evans

Hummm..

Didn't know Bama was -4.

I was assuming it was like the the Vegas sports bookies baseball lines,
where they will show you a number (180, 210, 225) that you will get back
if you bet $100.


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On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 22:29:36 -0600 Jeff Todd
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 It seems strange that the 'line' is LSU +4, but the 'odds' are in 
 their
 favor.
 
 Did I miss something?
 
 Slef
 
 -Original Message-
 From: William H Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 10:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Da Line
 
 
 That is a 'odds' bet rather than a 'line' bet.
 
 Plunk down $100 on LSU at a sports bookie window in Vegas, if you 
 win,
 you get $170.
 
 Bet $100 on UA, if you win, you get $200.
 
 But I am just guessing from looking at the numbers.  I don't have a 
 clue
 to explain the +/- signs.
 
 
 
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 Hartselle, AL
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Re: [RollTideFan] NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread William H Evans

These two points are the keys to this thread.  It is a matter of
priorities in a changing world.  Aircraft carriers and 100 megaton
hydrogen bombs do little to dissuade a small band of terrorists from
doing their dastardly deeds.  

If they had to spend some time wondering if their organization had been
infiltrated by US intelligence (even if it hasn't), it would at least
cause them problems.  

Some on-target intelligence *could* give us some advance warning next
time.   knock on wood 

On a slightly different note that applies back to Jeff's original post:
The US Army helicopter design/maintenance groups are in Huntsville.  For
the past three years I have been hearing that they didn't have enough
spare parts to even use the choppers for training.  It would have been
nice if Clinton had taken the savings from streamlining the military and
used them to buy some spare parts to keep what we already have in
operation.

A grounded Apache is only useful as a paper weight.


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On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:23:40 -0500 Phillip L. Harbison  
 
  We could have had 20 times the armed services we have and
  it wouldn't have prevented Sept. 11th. 
 
 True, but adequate emphasis on human intelligence might have
 prevented it.
 
 -- 
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Re: [RollTideFan] NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread William H Evans

-- comments embedded --


On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:02:40 -0500 Phillip L. Harbison 
 
  Iraq and N. Korea aren't going to be attacking us in a
  conventional sense with ICBM's.
 
 North Korea supposedly has a missile that could reach the
 Alutien Islands.  They might melt a lot of ice and snow and
 kill some baby seals.  I'll let Greenpeace worry about that.
 Just as long as Russell's beer remains cold. :-)
 


It might reach the Aleutians with a favorable wind and if the stars are
in alignment.  Otherwise it is likely to take out the N. Korean launch
facility.


  Let's spend that money on intelligence so we'll know what
  they are planning.
 
 This guy is pretty smart for an aubie. :-)
 


Like I said: I felt compelled to call him and say You were right.


Dos va donya,


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Re: [RollTideFan] NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread William H Evans

Phil - I agree with you on Jimmy Carter.  He may have been an ineffective
President, a less than Presidential leader, and totally lost on the
economy, but his character is beyond reproach.  We had a huge argument
about this on AU-Sports about two months ago.

Carter also did some things that he caught flack for at the time but that
turned out to be the correct thing to do: He tried to kill the B-1
program and started the Tomahawk cruise missile program.

His point was this: Why don't we continue to use these proven B-52's and
put some cruise missiles on them so they don't have to come with 1500
miles of their targets?

The few B-1's that we currently have will have been in mothballs for 40
years before they retire the B-52's in 2050.

The objection to them keeping the polls open in St. Louis was that they
ONLY did it in Democratic districts.  Then they bussed in every likely
Democratic voter they could find.

But as Scott Rogers reminded us, politics is NEVER a polite, gentlemanly
pursuit.  Hanky-panky is the norm, unless your initials are JEC.


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On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:16:12 -0500 Phillip L. Harbison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Scott Rogers wrote:
  There are no pristine, saintly political figures [...]
 
 James E. Carter on line 1. :-)
 
 
 Bill Evans wrote:
  After the election last November, I e-mailed him about the
  St. Louis polls being held open after hours in Democratic
  districts.
 
 Why would you object to registered voters exercising their
 right to vote?  We have a big problem with voting throughput
 here in Atlanta and I would bet STL has the same problem.
 Most blue collar people have to work during the day when
 the polls are open.  If the polls are only open from 7AM to
 6PM, they have a window of about 30 minutes in the morning
 and 30 minutes in the evening to vote.  That puts a big
 strain on the system.  Of course the obvious solution is to
 LEGALLY expand the voting hours, and Atlanta has done that.
 I think some of our precincts stay open until 7 or 8 PM.  I
 think anyone in line by closing time also gets to vote no
 matter how long that takes.  Is that not reasonable?
 
 -- 
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Re: [RollTideFan] Re: Homecoming info (non-BAMA)

2001-10-29 Thread William H Evans




Kurt,

I suspect that you are joking and you remember Parliament / Funkadelic / 
P*Funk All-Stars, etc. They had several names.

If you aren't joking, look here for a bio and history:

http://www.soul-patrol.com/funk/pfunk.htm

Listen to 'Flashlight':

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/clipserve/B01DXS002008/002-1699329-4174448

Sonja, I couldn't find a clip of 'Atomic Dog'.


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On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:36:59 -0600 kurt rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 
 Seriously... Who in the hell is George Clinton? I never 
heard of  the gal. Wait.. I know the answer!! 
That's the guy that won the  Florida popular vote!! 
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Re: [RollTideFan] Re: NAME THIS COUNTRY

2001-10-29 Thread William H Evans

On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 21:52:59 -0500 Phillip L. Harbison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 William H Evans wrote:
  Aircraft carriers and 100 megaton hydrogen bombs do little
  to dissuade a small band of terrorists from doing their
  dastardly deeds.
 
 I agree on the H-bombs but not the carriers.  A carrier group
 allows us to park what amounts to a floating airbase off the
 coast of any hot spot.  Most of the sorties in the current
 war have been flown from carriers.  I believe the exceptions
 are some B-2 sorties which originated in the US.  Carriers are
 a critical part of the Reach component of my four R's.
 

Agreed that carriers are much more useful than the planet-busters but
having two carrier task forces already in the Indian Ocean did very
little to prevent bin Laden from planning and executing his Sept. 11
attack.

It goes without saying now that we are flying attack sorties over
Afghanistan that they are worth every penny of the $2 billion they cost
to build and whatever it costs to maintain them.

BTW Phil - that $2 billion is a guess.  No Albrin math comments please.


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Re: [RollTideFan] AU and Jimmy Rane .... NCAA trouble ? non bama

2001-10-27 Thread William H Evans



Redskins - The rumor is that he has a five year $25 million dollar offer 
from Snyder.



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On Sat, 27 Oct 2001 16:22:46 -0500 "Hugh Wolfgang" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  And VisorBoy is going 
  to the Jags.
  
  
  -Original 
  Message-Tommy 
  Tubesteak is going to Notre Dame.
  
  
  


Re: [RollTideFan] Netscape vs Outlook 2K (non-Bama)(ANOTHER advantage)

2001-10-27 Thread William H Evans



LOL - Whatever. They (Microsoft) only finalized the 'gold' code about 
8-10 weeks ago and I have already seen many holes already exposed by writers and 
none fixed by Microsoft.

In addition, you know exactly what I mean: Never, ever trust a XX.0 
release. Always wait for a service pack, unless you don't value your 
work. 

And don't tell me that MS SQL Server 2000 requires Win XP. I know 
better. It prefers Win 2000 and can even be made to run on NT 4.

As for your 'bumbling fool' comment, I am not going toclaim 
'PERSONAL ATTACK! PERSONAL ATTACK!', unlike yourself. I can take 
it.



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On Sat, 27 Oct 2001 17:24:52 -0500 "Hugh Wolfgang" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  Windows XP was 
  released to the public two days ago, you bumbling fool. Its BEEN *thoroughly* investigated by the tech 
  community!
  
  
  -Original 
  Message-Don't 
  worry, Hugh. All of your data is in the RTF 
  archives.
  
  Hugh - you are a brave man to be 
  running Win XP before it has beenthoroughly 
  investigated by the tech community. Back up your 
  data.