[scifinoir2] Re: Avatar Keeps Rolling on Worldwide

2010-01-26 Thread Kelwyn
President Woodrow Wilson served as President of Princeton University and was a 
leading intellectual of the progressive era.  He also  brought many white 
Southerners into his administration, and tolerated their expansion of 
segregation in many federal agencies.  He was elected President in 1913 (two 
years before BOAN was made).  

I say all this to say Wilson was smart enough to know BOAN was chocked full of 
lies and he endorsed it anyway.  Does that make the movie or the man more evil?

~rave?

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:

 And President Woodrow Wilson, after seeing a private screening of Birth of a 
 Nation at the White House, called it the most important movie ever made. 
 No surprise: he presided over a lot of decisions that strengthened 
 segregation in a wide swath of American life. 
 
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 From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:20:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Avatar Keeps Rolling on Worldwide 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Shot by a genius that was personally responsible for the rebirth of the kkk 
 and the racial stereotypes about black men, and mexicans that are still with 
 us today. 
 
 
 On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:03 AM, Kelwyn  ravena...@...  wrote: 
 
 
 Content aside, Gone with the Wind like Birth of a Nation is savvy, 
 populist entertainment. If you are racially sensitive, avoid both at all 
 costs as the narratives will suck you in. Nation is truly remarkable on 
 just a technical basis. It is still a gorgeous looking film. D.W. Griffith 
 was a cinematic genius. 
 
 ~rave! 
 
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: 
  
  
  
  In terms of pure dollars, Avatar will soon become the biggest of all 
  time. (In terms of dollars adjusted for time, sadly, I think Gone With the 
  Wind is still the champ). The country-by-country breakdown is pretty 
  interesting. Australia over thirty mill, France, Algeria and Tunisia, over 
  a hundred, and ninety mill in Russia? Wow, truly an international hit. 
  Even Turkey with eight million. But what's up with Syria: only eighty-seven 
  thousand? 
 
  
  
  
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[scifinoir2] Re: Avatar Keeps Rolling on Worldwide

2010-01-26 Thread Kelwyn
And, where was our race headed before 1915?

~rave?

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:

 That movie changed the course of our race.
 
 On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...wrote:
 
 
 
  And President Woodrow Wilson, after seeing a private screening of Birth of
  a Nation at the White House, called it the most important movie ever
  made.  No surprise: he presided over a lot of decisions that strengthened
  segregation in a wide swath of American life.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@...
  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:20:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
  Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Avatar Keeps Rolling on Worldwide
 
 
 
  Shot by a genius that was personally responsible for the rebirth of the kkk
  and the racial stereotypes about black men, and mexicans that are still with
  us today.
 
  On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:03 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote:
 
  Content aside, Gone with the Wind like Birth of a Nation is savvy,
  populist entertainment.  If you are racially sensitive, avoid both at all
  costs as the narratives will suck you in.  Nation is truly remarkable on
  just a technical basis.  It is still a gorgeous looking film.  D.W. 
  Griffith
  was a cinematic genius.
 
  ~rave!
 
 
  --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@
  wrote:
  
  
  
   In terms of pure dollars, Avatar will soon become the biggest of all
  time. (In terms of dollars adjusted for time, sadly, I think Gone With the
  Wind is still the champ).  The country-by-country breakdown is pretty
  interesting. Australia over thirty mill, France, Algeria and Tunisia, over 
  a
  hundred, and ninety mill in Russia?  Wow, truly an international hit.Â
  Even Turkey with eight million. But what's up with Syria: only eighty-seven
  thousand?
  
  
  
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[scifinoir2] Re: Avatar Keeps Rolling on Worldwide

2010-01-26 Thread Kelwyn
This is  not entirely accurate.  Thomas Dixon, author of the source play The 
Clansman, was a former classmate of President Woodrow Wilson at Johns Hopkins 
University. Dixon arranged a screening at the White House, for Wilson, members 
of his cabinet, and their families. Wilson was reported to have commented of 
the film that it is like writing history with lightning. And my only regret is 
that it is all so terribly true. In Wilson: the new freedom, Arthur Link 
quotes Wilson's aide, Joseph Tumulty, who denied Wilson said this and also 
claims that the President was entirely unaware of the nature of the play 
before it was presented and at no time has expressed his approbation of it. 

However, Woodrow Wilson's History of the American People explained the Ku 
Klux Klan of the late 1860s as the natural outgrowth of Reconstruction, a 
lawless reaction to a lawless period. Wilson noted that the Klan began to 
attempt by intimidation what they were not allowed to attempt by the ballot or 
by any ordered course of public action.[11] In the film, approbation for the 
Klan, citing Wilson's History, is directly quoted.

Relentless in publicizing the film, Dixon was apparently the source for the 
quotation. It has been repeated so often in print that it has taken on a 
separate life. Dixon went so far as to promote the film as Federally 
endorsed. After controversy over the film had grown, Wilson wrote that he 
disapproved of the unfortunate production. 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:

 And President Woodrow Wilson, after seeing a private screening of Birth of a 
 Nation at the White House, called it the most important movie ever made. 
 No surprise: he presided over a lot of decisions that strengthened 
 segregation in a wide swath of American life. 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:20:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Avatar Keeps Rolling on Worldwide 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Shot by a genius that was personally responsible for the rebirth of the kkk 
 and the racial stereotypes about black men, and mexicans that are still with 
 us today. 
 
 
 On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:03 AM, Kelwyn  ravena...@...  wrote: 
 
 
 Content aside, Gone with the Wind like Birth of a Nation is savvy, 
 populist entertainment. If you are racially sensitive, avoid both at all 
 costs as the narratives will suck you in. Nation is truly remarkable on 
 just a technical basis. It is still a gorgeous looking film. D.W. Griffith 
 was a cinematic genius. 
 
 ~rave! 
 
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: 
  
  
  
  In terms of pure dollars, Avatar will soon become the biggest of all 
  time. (In terms of dollars adjusted for time, sadly, I think Gone With the 
  Wind is still the champ). The country-by-country breakdown is pretty 
  interesting. Australia over thirty mill, France, Algeria and Tunisia, over 
  a hundred, and ninety mill in Russia? Wow, truly an international hit. 
  Even Turkey with eight million. But what's up with Syria: only eighty-seven 
  thousand? 
 
  
  
  
  http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intlid=avatar.htm 
  
 
 
 
 
  
 
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[scifinoir2] Re: Avatar Keeps Rolling on Worldwide

2010-01-26 Thread Kelwyn
As a point of clarification, I did not indict Lincoln Perry for the Stepin 
Fetchit character.  I indicted director John M. Stahl who first disseminated 
the Fetchit character in the movie In Old Kentucky (1927).  I see Mr. Perry 
as a victim not a perpetrator.

~rave!



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:

 I disagree; or, I don't think it' s productive to argue Birth of a Nation 
 versus Stepin Fetchit. Birth was shown all over the county; whites stood a 
 block long lines to see it. It grossed a phenomenal amount of money and was a 
 hit for months on end. Like I just said in another post, even Woodrow Wilson 
 celebrated it as a tough truth of history. Its influence on white 
 thought--either justifying or engendering their thoughts of black inferiority 
 and savagery, and the rightness of white rule--can't be overestimated. 
 That black actors like Fetchit willingly lent themselves to damaging 
 stereotypes can't be argued. But Birth, by its nature--white actors all 
 playing black in poorly done blackface--showed that even without black 
 complicity, some whites would have found ways to depict us as little more 
 than animals. 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Kelwyn ravena...@... 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:47:10 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Avatar Keeps Rolling on Worldwide 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Apples and oranges. Still, a remarkable cinematic achievement. I was blown 
 away when I saw it. Griffith practically invented modern cinematic language. 
 
 Indicting Griffith for the rise of KKK is like indicting Samuel Colt for 
 drive by shootings. Guilty as charged but, still, largely irrelevant. 
 
 Me, personally, would be more inclined to indict John M. Stahl (In Old 
 Kentucky), the first director to employ Stepin Fetchit as the Laziest Man 
 in the World. This image was wy more destructive to black people than 
 anything in Birth of a Nation. 
 
 ~rave! 
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ wrote: 
  
  Shot by a genius that was personally responsible for the rebirth of the kkk 
  and the racial stereotypes about black men, and mexicans that are still 
  with 
  us today. 
  
  On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:03 AM, Kelwyn ravenadal@ wrote: 
  
   Content aside, Gone with the Wind like Birth of a Nation is savvy, 
   populist entertainment. If you are racially sensitive, avoid both at all 
   costs as the narratives will suck you in. Nation is truly remarkable on 
   just a technical basis. It is still a gorgeous looking film. D.W. 
   Griffith 
   was a cinematic genius. 
   
   ~rave! 
   
   
   --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ 
   wrote: 



In terms of pure dollars, Avatar will soon become the biggest of all 
   time. (In terms of dollars adjusted for time, sadly, I think Gone With 
   the 
   Wind is still the champ). The country-by-country breakdown is 
   pretty 
   interesting. Australia over thirty mill, France, Algeria and Tunisia, 
   over a 
   hundred, and ninety mill in Russia? Wow, truly an international 
   hit. 
   Even Turkey with eight million. But what's up with Syria: only 
   eighty-seven 
   thousand? 



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[scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish

2010-01-26 Thread Kelwyn
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...
wrote:   Rather than Berry, I humbly suggest looking up any movie with
Selma Hayek in it--the dancing scene in that vampire movie alone is
worth the price of ten shots of Berry's nekkid chest--this despite Hayek
keeping her clothes on! Or anything that features Sanaa Lathan, she of
the incredibly cute smile and dreamy eyes that just suck one in. Or
anything with Gabrielle Union, face as pretty and perfect as a living
doll's. Nia Long in Love Jones is just a treat to look at too --and
it's a good movie to boot.   I see you and raise you:
~rave!



[scifinoir2] Syfy movie title contest

2010-01-26 Thread Mr. Worf
http://www.syfy.com/moviecontest/




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[scifinoir2] Question

2010-01-26 Thread Augustus Augustus
has anyone seen this movie Gas-s-s-s-s that is on retroplex right now?  it's 
about kids taking over the world after a mysterious gas kills everyone over 
25.  it is simply stupid, but funny.  roger corman of course.  they just had a 
scene in the junk yard where they were shooting at each other calling out old 
movie star names with all the sound effects of guns shooting, but they were not 
shooting.  the guys were falling like they had been shot, but it was hilarious!

Fate.



  

Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish

2010-01-26 Thread jazzynupe_007
Rave,

Great shots, but I am also now digging Zoe from Star Trek.  Her Uhura was 
simply smoking!   As for Gabby, I love her in FlashForward.  I enjoyed her also 
in...and no one better laugh at me, but I enjoyed her in bring it on (I do 
have a baby girl that loves the movie).

Fatem
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Sent: Jan 26, 2010 03:48

  --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ... wrote: 
  Rather than Berry, I humbly suggest looking up any movie with Selma Hayek 
in it--the dancing scene in that vampire movie alone is worth the price of ten 
shots of Berry's nekkid chest--this despite Hayek keeping her clothes on! Or 
anything that features Sanaa Lathan, she of the incredibly cute smile and 
dreamy eyes that just suck one in. Or anything with Gabrielle Union, face as 
pretty and perfect as a living doll's. Nia Long in Love Jones is just a treat 
to look at too --and it's a good movie to boot. 
I see you and raise you: ~rave!  
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish

2010-01-26 Thread efhaynes
Zoe in Star Trek?! What?!
Ms. Union looks great in everything: skin care commercials, Night Stalker, 
Bring It On...

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:46:27 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish

Rave,

Great shots, but I am also now digging Zoe from Star Trek.  Her Uhura was 
simply smoking!   As for Gabby, I love her in FlashForward.  I enjoyed her also 
in...and no one better laugh at me, but I enjoyed her in bring it on (I do 
have a baby girl that loves the movie).

Fatem
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Sent: Jan 26, 2010 03:48

  --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ... wrote: 
  Rather than Berry, I humbly suggest looking up any movie with Selma Hayek 
in it--the dancing scene in that vampire movie alone is worth the price of ten 
shots of Berry's nekkid chest--this despite Hayek keeping her clothes on! Or 
anything that features Sanaa Lathan, she of the incredibly cute smile and 
dreamy eyes that just suck one in. Or anything with Gabrielle Union, face as 
pretty and perfect as a living doll's. Nia Long in Love Jones is just a treat 
to look at too --and it's a good movie to boot. 
I see you and raise you: ~rave!  
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish

2010-01-26 Thread jazzynupe_007
EF, by no means am I selling Gabby short.I take Gabby anyday of the week 
and twice on Sunday.  I was just giving another name 2 the pot.  Her Wild Wild 
West cameo! 
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Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish

Zoe in Star Trek?! What?!
Ms. Union looks great in everything: skin care commercials, Night Stalker, 
Bring It On...

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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From: jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:46:27 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish

Rave,

Great shots, but I am also now digging Zoe from Star Trek.  Her Uhura was 
simply smoking!   As for Gabby, I love her in FlashForward.  I enjoyed her also 
in...and no one better laugh at me, but I enjoyed her in bring it on (I do 
have a baby girl that loves the movie).

Fatem
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  --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ... wrote: 
  Rather than Berry, I humbly suggest looking up any movie with Selma Hayek 
in it--the dancing scene in that vampire movie alone is worth the price of ten 
shots of Berry's nekkid chest--this despite Hayek keeping her clothes on! Or 
anything that features Sanaa Lathan, she of the incredibly cute smile and 
dreamy eyes that just suck one in. Or anything with Gabrielle Union, face as 
pretty and perfect as a living doll's. Nia Long in Love Jones is just a treat 
to look at too --and it's a good movie to boot. 
I see you and raise you: ~rave!  
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish

2010-01-26 Thread efhaynes
Salma Hayek in Desperado: very much worth a rental. Eva Mendez in anything. 
Rosario Dawson though she lacks carriage along the Z-axis...hey, wait a minute. 
I see a trend...
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Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish

EF, by no means am I selling Gabby short.I take Gabby anyday of the week 
and twice on Sunday.  I was just giving another name 2 the pot.  Her Wild Wild 
West cameo! 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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To: SciFiNoir2 mailing listscifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish

Zoe in Star Trek?! What?!
Ms. Union looks great in everything: skin care commercials, Night Stalker, 
Bring It On...

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:46:27 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish

Rave,

Great shots, but I am also now digging Zoe from Star Trek.  Her Uhura was 
simply smoking!   As for Gabby, I love her in FlashForward.  I enjoyed her also 
in...and no one better laugh at me, but I enjoyed her in bring it on (I do 
have a baby girl that loves the movie).

Fatem
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  --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ... wrote: 
  Rather than Berry, I humbly suggest looking up any movie with Selma Hayek 
in it--the dancing scene in that vampire movie alone is worth the price of ten 
shots of Berry's nekkid chest--this despite Hayek keeping her clothes on! Or 
anything that features Sanaa Lathan, she of the incredibly cute smile and 
dreamy eyes that just suck one in. Or anything with Gabrielle Union, face as 
pretty and perfect as a living doll's. Nia Long in Love Jones is just a treat 
to look at too --and it's a good movie to boot. 
I see you and raise you: ~rave!  
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RE: [scifinoir2] Question

2010-01-26 Thread Martin Baxter

Neva hoid of it, but it sounds Mistie-ready I'll have to keep an eye out for it.
  
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RE: [scifinoir2] Syfy movie title contest

2010-01-26 Thread Martin Baxter

Medieval Monstrosity

And, if this wins, we all own Siffy. Start planning the revolution.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




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RE: [scifinoir2] Pluto's Little Sister Found?

2010-01-26 Thread Martin Baxter

I'm gonna have to start writing space-based fiction again, just to use some of 
the stuff that popping out of the woodwork.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:54:09 -0800
Subject: [scifinoir2] Pluto's Little Sister Found?


















 



  



  
  
  
Pluto's Little Sister Found?When it comes to objects in the Kuiper Belt, the 
vast, icy ring that encircles our solar system, size matters.






 
By Irene Klotz | Mon Jan 25, 2010 01:49 PM ET













The
smallest object ever found in the Kuiper Belt, a vast, icy ring that
encircles our solar system, helps to explain how these debris disks are
formed.

NASA, ESA, and G. Bacon (STScI)







THE GIST:

An icy body one-third of a mile wide is the smallest known object ever found in 
the Kuiper Belt.The Kuiper Belt is a vast, icy ring just beyond Neptune that 
encircles the solar system.
The discovery links solar system formation to planet-forming debris disks 
around other stars.







The frozen worlds orbiting beyond Neptune include not only dwarf planets like 
Pluto and Ceres, but also a tiny, icy toehold just one-third of a mile wide.



The discovery, made by a team of astronomers scouring Hubble Space Telescope
observations, sets a new record for the smallest Kuiper Belt object
found. Previously, the smallest known Pluto sibling was a 30-mile-wide
Kuiper Belt object.


The Kuiper Belt region, located about 4.6 billion miles away, is
filled with objects believed to be left over from the solar system's
formation. It is similar to the asteroid belt, located between Mars and 
Jupiter, but much bigger. Unlike the asteroids that contain rock and metals, 
Kuiper Belt objects have icy bodies of methane, ammonia, water and other 
volatiles.



The Kuiper Belt is particularly interesting to scientists looking for planetary 
systems beyond our solar system. Planets are believed to form from collapsing 
disks of gas and dust orbiting stars.



The dusty particles begin to stick together and eventually build up
larger objects. Not all make it into planets. It's the leftover ones
are what we're seeing when we look at Kuiper Belt objects and
asteroids, University of Arizona astronomer John Stansberry told
Discovery News.


The finding of a very small Kuiper Belt object links our solar
system's debris disk to those observed around other stars, added
University of Toronto's Hilke Schlichting, who led the team that made
the discovery.


We can observe micron-sized particles (in extrasolar debris disks),
which are thought to be induced by collisions, from grinding down
larger objects, Schlichting told Discovery News. By finding this
evidence for collision grinding in the Kuiper Belt, it seems to be the
missing link between our Kuiper Belt and extrasolar debris disks.


When it comes to Kuiper Belt objects, size matters. Scientists can
use this information to determine an object's density and what it is
made from. In larger bodies, gravity plays the dominant role in shaping
objects. In smaller ones, it is the strength of its materials that
matters.






WATCH VIDEO: Astrophysicist Andy Puckett explores the universe,
especially undiscovered asteroids that could one day smack into our
planet.





Related Links:




Taking the Kuiper Belt CensusWide Angle: Asteroids
HowStuffWorks.com: Kuiper BeltPluto, Sponsored By McDonalds 
 





The discovery of just one small object is probably not going to
lead to great advances. But if we started to discover statistically
significant numbers of them, then we can compare the number of large
and small bodies, and you can start to get a handle on the material
strength of the objects. It also might tell you about the violence of
the collisions, said Stansberry.


Potentially, it might be a new field if we can make more discoveries like 
this, he added.


Schlichting and colleagues combed through 4.5 years of Hubble data
to find the tiny Kuiper Belt Object, discovered as it passed in front
of a background star, momentarily dimming its light.


These tiny objects are much rarer than you would expect, Schlichting told 
Discovery News.


Based on the number of known objects in the Kuiper Belt, scientists
would have expected to find between 30 and 100 tiny bodies in their
analysis of 50,000 guide stars observed by Hubble.


So far, the team has only looked at 30 percent of the available Hubble data.


We only found one, Schlichting said. It shows that there's kind
of a break in the size of objects in the Kuiper Belt from large
objects, meaning bigger than 50 

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?

2010-01-26 Thread Martin Baxter

No, Keith, you're not alone. And no, Mr Worf, I haven't seen Rome yet. It's 
available on DVD through my library, and I'm in the queue to check it out. 
Maybe by Thanksgiving...

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 04:49:59 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?


















 



  



  
  
  
Glad it's not just me...

- Original Message -
From: Mr Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:44:07 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?








 



  



  
  
  All hail Spartacus! :) 



I just watched the first episode and I have to say that the director that shot 
this must have had 300 on infinite replay when they were making this. The fight 
scenes although realistic looking in action turn to cartoons when everything is 
slowed down to allow the special effect blood to splatter makes it laughable. 



Has anyone watched the series called Rome? Spartacus ain't it. Spartacus is the 
dumbed down blood and guts version for teen boys that has nudity in it. I don't 
think that when they shot this series that the actor knew that they were going 
to make the serious action into gore porn. 



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote:



 

 (standing ovation)

 

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

 

 

 

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 From: keithbjohn...@...

 Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 00:09:14 +

 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

   

   

   

 Absolutely, I just have an issue with lazy writing on that level unless it's 
 intentional. In Hercules and Xena, for example, the anachronistic 
 language was intentional and sometimes funny. The god Apollo, for example, 
 was portrayed as a magical surfer type, who even said Dude.  But 
 Spartacus, from what i can tell, is trying to be serious drama, so I just 
 can't get past such gaffes.

 I've noticed more and more in recent years that problem in historical dramas. 
 I see a lot of them where the characters are speaking idiomatically as if 
 they're from modern American. Even if they use the time-appropriate words, 
 the way those words are structured into phrases is just off.  That always 
 irritates me. For example, don't tell me you're giving me a well-written 
 drama that takes place in, say, a Puritan village in the 1700s, then have a 
 young person ask another How's it going?

 Lazy...

 

 - Original Message -

 From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@...

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 7:01:06 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

   

   

   Nope... they say that it was invented around the 1100s. But there had 
 to be a similar word back then. 

 

 

 On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Was the f-word even being used by the Britons during the time of Spartacus?

 

 - Original Message -

 From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@...

 

 To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 3:17:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

 

 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

   

   

   

 

 

 Again with you all the way, Keith. THe curse words they're using are mostly 
 Anglo-Saxon, something that folks who live in Greece (If I've got the 
 geography right) aren't likely to speak.

 

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

 

 

 

 

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 

 From: keithbjohn...@...

 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 04:37:09 +

 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

   

   

   

 Looking at part of it again, the fight scenes really do border on kinda

 funny, the 300-style imitation is so over the top it reminds me more

 of the hilariously bloody fight scene with the Black Knight in Monty

 Python and The Holy Grail. I mean, seriously, the blood is spattering

 and splatering like red 

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Conan O'Brien: Free At Last!

2010-01-26 Thread Martin Baxter

I'll bet they're in meetings as we type this, wondering how to bottle the magic.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 04:37:55 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Conan O'Brien: Free At Last!


















 



  



  
  
  
I saw that it was great! Ironic that most of the talk show hosts--including the 
principals involved--have gotten their funniest bits in years out of this.

- Original Message -
From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:16:12 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Conan O'Brien: Free At Last!








 



  



  
  
  


Keith, Fallon did what was, IMO, his first funny bit the other night. He was 
doing a mock tribute to Conan by sneaking into what used to be his studio back 
when Conan had Late Night, Boyz 2 Men in tow, and singing It's So Hard (To 
Say Goodbye), then pouring out a 40 (of Coke) on the floor as Dr Oz, who now 
shoots in that studio, comes in and yells, What are you doing in here?

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:35:29 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Conan O'Brien: Free At Last!


















 



  



  
  
  
Amen! The only thing about his show that makes me laugh is when you see him 
running in the opening credits, as if he's late for the show.
And frankly, Conan's version of that was way funnier. When he took over The 
Tonight Show and moved to LA, he opened with a hilarious bit that made it seem 
as if he ran all the way from East to West coast-in his suit and tie!

- Original Message -
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 6:09:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Conan O'Brien: Free At Last!








 



  



  
  
  No it doesn't. That was just a marketing plot to show how hip he is. 
He's so unfunny that he could possibly be defined as ANTI-COMEDY.


On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

Having the Roots as his house band absolves Mr. Fallon of all sins.



~rave!



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:



 Oh don't get me started! :) Fallon is the worst waste of space on tv!

 Infomercials are more entertaining than his disjointed sap!



 On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 8:55 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2...@...wrote:



 

 

  No, really, Mr. Worf, tell us how  you really feel...

 

 

  Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet

  From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie

 

  --- On *Fri, 1/22/10, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@...* wrote:

 

 

  From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@...

  Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Conan O'Brien: Free At Last!

  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

  Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:44 PM

 

 

  Kimmel is really a writer. He needs to be part of a team writing somewhere

  and not hosting a show, but ABC has been trying to compete on the late night

  for years. Fallon is just a waste of space.

 

  On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ 
  comcast.nethttp://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=keithbjohn...@...


   wrote:

 

 

 

  Agreed, that's why I'm glad this failed. We need original scripted TV, not

  more talk shows in a field already overloaded with mostly mediocre talent

  (Kimmel and Fallon especially). And I'm more irritated at Leno, the more I

  think of it. He never should have agreed to a 10 pm show that couldn't help

  but hurt Conan.

  I've said it before: if you want to bring something different to TV, how

  about an old-time variety show. Something like Carol Burnett updated, with

  skits, singing, dancing, etc. Cedric the Entertainer tried it a while back

  and didn't succeed. I believe Brady tried such a show, with little success.

  But maybe it could work as a once-a-week show. Surely Americans' tastes

  haven't fallen so far that we're satisfied with the likes of American 
  Idol

  or Dancing with the Stars???

  Or maybe a new show similiar to In Living Color?

 

 

 

  - Original Message -

  From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. 
  comhttp://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tdli...@...


  

  To: scifino...@yahoogro 
  ups.comhttp://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com


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RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Scorned Lover of Obama Adviser Uses Billboards to Vent

2010-01-26 Thread Martin Baxter

Yes!

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 04:34:58 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Scorned Lover of Obama Adviser Uses Billboards to 
Vent


















 



  



  
  
  
Amen! And that money spent on billboards could buy how much food and medicine 
for Haiti? Matter of fact, maybe she should volunteer for something like that 
and be reminded exactly what the word unfair means...

- Original Message -
From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:35:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Scorned Lover of Obama Adviser Uses Billboards to 
Vent








 



  



  
  
  


Keith, I have a word to describe it as well.

Pathetic. Get over it, lady. The train has left the station.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 05:16:51 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Scorned Lover of Obama Adviser Uses Billboards to Vent


















 



  



  
  
  
This is so bizarre. We passed one of this lady's billboards here in Atlanta 
last weekend, and I couldn't figure out who this couple was, nor why I should 
care about them. I find it hard to believe this lady was with this dude for 
eight years and didn't know he was still married. But whether she knew he was 
married, or whether he just chumped her by going back to his wife, this is a 
classless tacky move. I know she's hurting, but why do people outside of their 
inner circle need to know their private issues? That's the price of love: 
sometimes you get taken, sometimes you let yourself get taken by going into 
situations you know aren't right. Whatever, bottom line is she should just move 
on and keep their private affairs...private.

Since this Brother runs Oracle and is a high level member of the Obama gang, I 
wonder if this will hit the major airwaves like Fox in the next couple of 
days...?

 

*

 

Revenge by billboard: Scorned lover pays £150,000 for street posters to reveal 
affair with Obama aide




By David Gardner
Last updated at 9:57 PM on 23rd January 2010



Comments (164) 
Add to My Stories 

 

The spurned mistress of one of Barack Obama's top economic advisers has exacted 
revenge by plastering details of their affair on giant billboard posters across 
the U.S. 

YaVaughnie Wilkins is said to have paid £150,000 to reveal her relationship 
with Charles Phillips to the world after he went back to his wife. 

The posters, which are three storeys high, show Miss Williams and the senior 
member of the president's hand-picked Economic Recovery Advisory Board below 
his initials and a quote saying: 'You are my soulmate forever.' 


 

Shamed: YaVaughnie Wilkins poses with former lover Charles E. Phillips in a 
poster she placed in New York




There is also a link to a website that is a shrine to his eight-year affair 
with Miss Wilkins, 41. 

It includes pictures chronicling their travels around the world as well as 
intimate notes and ticket stubs from concerts, films, sports games and Mr 
Obama' s inauguration a year ago. 

One of the giant signs is posted on Broadway near Times Square in New York - 
one of the world's most prominent advertising hoardings.

A further two have appeared elsewhere in New York as well as one in Atlanta and 
one in San Francisco, where Miss Wilkins lives and her married ex-lover owns a 
family home. Each are said to have cost £30,000 to display. 


The billboards baffled Americans when they first appeared – with speculation 
mounting over whether it was a marketing ploy or an apology.

Her extraordinary actions had the desired effect. The chief executive has been 
forced into an embarrassing public statement in which he admitted their affair.


 
 

Adventures: Wilkins set up a website of photos of the couple's world travels, 
including Sydney, right


 

Powerful: Phillips, circled, is an adviser to U.S. President Barack Obama
Yesterday Mr Phillips, 50, who is also president of internet giant Oracle, 
issued a brief three-sentence statement saying: 'I had an eight-and-a-half year 
serious relationship with YaVaughnie Wilkins. 


'My divorce proceedings began in 2008. The relationship with Ms Wilkins has 
since ended and we both wish each other well.' 


There has been speculation that YaVaughnie deliberately timed her campaign to 
coincide with a major Oracle event next week. Website Gawker noted that the 
company was due to host an all-day live event on January 27.

Mr 

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?

2010-01-26 Thread Martin Baxter

If that's all the show will ever be, then it would be more economical to go out 
and buy 300 than to subscribe to Showtime.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:44:00 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?


















 



  



  
  
  All hail Spartacus! :) 



I just watched the first episode and I have to say that the director that shot 
this must have had 300 on infinite replay when they were making this. The fight 
scenes although realistic looking in action turn to cartoons when everything is 
slowed down to allow the special effect blood to splatter makes it laughable. 



Has anyone watched the series called Rome? Spartacus ain't it. Spartacus is the 
dumbed down blood and guts version for teen boys that has nudity in it. I don't 
think that when they shot this series that the actor knew that they were going 
to make the serious action into gore porn. 



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote:



 

 (standing ovation)

 

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

 

 

 

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 From: keithbjohn...@...

 Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 00:09:14 +

 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

   

   

   

 Absolutely, I just have an issue with lazy writing on that level unless it's 
 intentional. In Hercules and Xena, for example, the anachronistic 
 language was intentional and sometimes funny. The god Apollo, for example, 
 was portrayed as a magical surfer type, who even said Dude.  But 
 Spartacus, from what i can tell, is trying to be serious drama, so I just 
 can't get past such gaffes.

 I've noticed more and more in recent years that problem in historical dramas. 
 I see a lot of them where the characters are speaking idiomatically as if 
 they're from modern American. Even if they use the time-appropriate words, 
 the way those words are structured into phrases is just off.  That always 
 irritates me. For example, don't tell me you're giving me a well-written 
 drama that takes place in, say, a Puritan village in the 1700s, then have a 
 young person ask another How's it going?

 Lazy...

 

 - Original Message -

 From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@...

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 7:01:06 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

   

   

   Nope... they say that it was invented around the 1100s. But there had 
 to be a similar word back then. 

 

 

 On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Was the f-word even being used by the Britons during the time of Spartacus?

 

 - Original Message -

 From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@...

 

 To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 3:17:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

 

 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

   

   

   

 

 

 Again with you all the way, Keith. THe curse words they're using are mostly 
 Anglo-Saxon, something that folks who live in Greece (If I've got the 
 geography right) aren't likely to speak.

 

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

 

 

 

 

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 

 From: keithbjohn...@...

 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 04:37:09 +

 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

   

   

   

 Looking at part of it again, the fight scenes really do border on kinda

 funny, the 300-style imitation is so over the top it reminds me more

 of the hilariously bloody fight scene with the Black Knight in Monty

 Python and The Holy Grail. I mean, seriously, the blood is spattering

 and splatering like red water from a burst balloon. One dude got

 knocked in the back of the head, and blood sprayed all over it was

 funny. The showrunners seem to have an almost perverse interest in

 showing closeups of flesh cut and spread, bodies impaled. Silly,

 gratuitous, unmoving.

 

 Quite a bit of nudity too, including of Lucy Lawless I believe. Bit of

 a shock that, 

RE: [scifinoir2] I can't comprehend

2010-01-26 Thread Martin Baxter

No,m rave, you shouldn't. I've only had one decent review of that one from 
friends in my circle, of all races. It's just  a strange movie, almost painful 
to watch in places for me.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:35:30 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] I can't comprehend


















 



  



  
  
  I am watching Revolutionary Road and I can't comprehend of a movie like 
that being made with black people. I should be able to comprehend that; 
shouldn't I?



rave?







 









  
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Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service.
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RE: [scifinoir2] 40 Gbps - Fastest Internet Connection to a Single Home

2010-01-26 Thread Martin Baxter

I'll be needing a Sugar Mama to hook me up with the latest AlienWare rig. Guess 
I should stop typing and start hitting online dating sites...

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:24:53 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] 40 Gbps - Fastest Internet Connection to a Single 
Home


















 



  



  
  
  Hell with that kind of connection you would need a twin quad processor 
and an array of sd memory cards to keep up. Which can be done if folks have the 
money. 


On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
wrote:


























Don't fret, guys! With that 40-gig setup, I'll be posting here fifteen times a 
second.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

From: jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 12:11:23 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] 40 Gbps - Fastest Internet Connection to a Single Home



















 



  



  
  
  












I will second that!
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
From:  C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 00:54:50 -0800 (PST)To: 
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [scifinoir2] 40 Gbps - Fastest 
Internet Connection to a Single Home


 




  
  
  
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From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] 40 Gbps - Fastest Internet Connection to a Single Home

To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 24, 2010, 4:41 PM


  

I may not be posting for awhile, as I'll be busy packing.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant


http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik





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40 Gbps - Fastest Internet Connection to a Single Home
Jul 13, 200775-year old Swede has recently got a 40 Gbps internet connection 
directly to her home computer. She is a mum of the internet legend Peter 
Löthberg and they have got money and technology to make a connection like this. 
She decided to persuade internet operators to invest in faster internet 
connections. 


We used to see those optical fiber links and their speed used to be enough. Now 
when I heard about this I want such a connection. I would feel like I can 
download all the internet data in just seconds. Well, I am just joking but it 
is really fast. Imagine she can download a full HD DVD in just 2 seconds. 


My SATA II hard drive speed is just 3 Gbps I can't imagine how a home internet 
speed can be faster than my
 hard drive. It is a good thing that RAM is still a bit faster though.

The secret that stands behind this speed is in new modulation technique. This 
technique allows data to be transferred to de distances up to 2,000 kilometers 
directly between only two routers. This does not involve any intermediary 
transponders which makes the connection even faster.


Of course now you've got to get a high quality fiber optic cable to be able to 
get such speed. Moreover it will surely cost a fortune to get 40 Gbps internet 
connection.

From:
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RE: [scifinoir2] Movie - Geisha Assassin

2010-01-26 Thread Martin Baxter

I'm not fond of his recent stuff, the Rush Hour movies in particular. I loved 
his stuff from the 70s and 80s, especially his Police Story movies. Not much 
in plot either, but I think of the action in ADD terms, hit points for each 
blow taken/delivered.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:18:26 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Movie - Geisha Assassin


















 



  



  
  
  I'm not a fan of his. I enjoyed some of his big stunts, and the stuff he 
did in the 70s, but that's about it. 

The Geisha movie is just a bit cartoony. It isn't a complete movie really. Like 
I said no plot. 



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wrote:


























If it's primarily wire fu, then I won't like it. Even when I was young, 
watching the Saturday afternoon kung-fu movie block, I found myself frowning at 
the wire sequences, without really knowing why. My first Jackie Chan flick was 
like manna from the gods. Just saw Operation Condor for the umpteenth time, 
and I still found myself jumping with glee, as if seeing it for the first time.


If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





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From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 18:43:12 -0800

Subject: [scifinoir2] Movie - Geisha Assassin


















 



  



  
  
  First off this movie is definitely Saturday matinee faire. Very little 
plot and mostly all action. It took over half of the movie before I learned 
what the main character's name is, but she is apparently out to get revenge for 
her dead father. This required her to attack her father's killer while dressed 
as a geisha. Anyone that has studied geisha would know that being a geisha is a 
martial art within itself.




She takes on many different fighters from ninja to a monk. Many of the fight 
scenes are run of the mill wire fu scenes, but there are some exceptions. One 
scene in particular drops the wire fu and goes for realism in a hand to hand 
combat scene. Very nice job. 




But alas it is mostly martial art eye candy. :) 
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Pluto's Little Sister Found?

2010-01-26 Thread Keith Johnson
Interesting. A personal observation not related to the science of this article: 
the usage of the term size does matter is getting a bit old, isn't it? I hear 
it in all kinds of movie/TV stuff, home improvement shows, now even 
astronomical press coverage? Ugh. 


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Subject: [scifinoir2] Pluto's Little Sister Found? 






Pluto's Little Sister Found? 
When it comes to objects in the Kuiper Belt, the vast, icy ring that encircles 
our solar system, size matters. 


By Irene Klotz | Mon Jan 25, 2010 01:49 PM ET 


Pluto's Little Sister Found?

The smallest object ever found in the Kuiper Belt, a vast, icy ring that 
encircles our solar system, helps to explain how these debris disks are formed. 
NASA, ESA, and G. Bacon (STScI) 



THE GIST: 

• An icy body one-third of a mile wide is the smallest known object ever 
found in the Kuiper Belt. 
• The Kuiper Belt is a vast, icy ring just beyond Neptune that encircles 
the solar system. 
• The discovery links solar system formation to planet-forming debris disks 
around other stars. 





The frozen worlds orbiting beyond Neptune include not only dwarf planets like 
Pluto and Ceres, but also a tiny, icy toehold just one-third of a mile wide. 

The discovery, made by a team of astronomers scouring Hubble Space Telescope 
observations, sets a new record for the smallest Kuiper Belt object found. 
Previously, the smallest known Pluto sibling was a 30-mile-wide Kuiper Belt 
object. 

The Kuiper Belt region, located about 4.6 billion miles away, is filled with 
objects believed to be left over from the solar system's formation. It is 
similar to the asteroid belt, located between Mars and Jupiter, but much 
bigger. Unlike the asteroids that contain rock and metals, Kuiper Belt objects 
have icy bodies of methane, ammonia, water and other volatiles. 

The Kuiper Belt is particularly interesting to scientists looking for planetary 
systems beyond our solar system . Planets are believed to form from collapsing 
disks of gas and dust orbiting stars. 

The dusty particles begin to stick together and eventually build up larger 
objects. Not all make it into planets. It's the leftover ones are what we're 
seeing when we look at Kuiper Belt objects and asteroids, University of 
Arizona astronomer John Stansberry told Discovery News. 

The finding of a very small Kuiper Belt object links our solar system's debris 
disk to those observed around other stars, added University of Toronto's Hilke 
Schlichting, who led the team that made the discovery. 

We can observe micron-sized particles (in extrasolar debris disks), which are 
thought to be induced by collisions, from grinding down larger objects, 
Schlichting told Discovery News. By finding this evidence for collision 
grinding in the Kuiper Belt, it seems to be the missing link between our Kuiper 
Belt and extrasolar debris disks. 

When it comes to Kuiper Belt objects, size matters. Scientists can use this 
information to determine an object's density and what it is made from. In 
larger bodies, gravity plays the dominant role in shaping objects. In smaller 
ones, it is the strength of its materials that matters. 
astrophysicist asteroid
WATCH VIDEO: Astrophysicist Andy Puckett explores the universe, especially 
undiscovered asteroids that could one day smack into our planet. 

Related Links: 



• Taking the Kuiper Belt Census 
• Wide Angle: Asteroids 
• HowStuffWorks.com: Kuiper Belt 
• Pluto, Sponsored By McDonalds 





The discovery of just one small object is probably not going to lead to great 
advances. But if we started to discover statistically significant numbers of 
them, then we can compare the number of large and small bodies, and you can 
start to get a handle on the material strength of the objects. It also might 
tell you about the violence of the collisions, said Stansberry. 

Potentially, it might be a new field if we can make more discoveries like 
this, he added. 

Schlichting and colleagues combed through 4.5 years of Hubble data to find the 
tiny Kuiper Belt Object, discovered as it passed in front of a background star, 
momentarily dimming its light. 

These tiny objects are much rarer than you would expect, Schlichting told 
Discovery News. 

Based on the number of known objects in the Kuiper Belt, scientists would have 
expected to find between 30 and 100 tiny bodies in their analysis of 50,000 
guide stars observed by Hubble. 

So far, the team has only looked at 30 percent of the available Hubble data. 

We only found one, Schlichting said. It shows that there's kind of a break 
in the size of objects in the Kuiper Belt from large objects, meaning bigger 
than 50 kilometers (31 miles), and smaller ones. 

The dearth of small bodies may be evidence that objects in the Kuiper Belt are 
crashing and 

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Avatar Keeps Rolling on Worldwide

2010-01-26 Thread Keith Johnson
That's a chicken-and-egg question: it makes them both bad... 

- Original Message - 
From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:28:52 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Avatar Keeps Rolling on Worldwide 






President Woodrow Wilson served as President of Princeton University and was a 
leading intellectual of the progressive era. He also brought many white 
Southerners into his administration, and tolerated their expansion of 
segregation in many federal agencies. He was elected President in 1913 (two 
years before BOAN was made). 

I say all this to say Wilson was smart enough to know BOAN was chocked full of 
lies and he endorsed it anyway. Does that make the movie or the man more evil? 

~rave? 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: 
 
 And President Woodrow Wilson, after seeing a private screening of Birth of a 
 Nation at the White House, called it the most important movie ever made. 
 No surprise: he presided over a lot of decisions that strengthened 
 segregation in a wide swath of American life. 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:20:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Avatar Keeps Rolling on Worldwide 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Shot by a genius that was personally responsible for the rebirth of the kkk 
 and the racial stereotypes about black men, and mexicans that are still with 
 us today. 
 
 
 On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:03 AM, Kelwyn  ravena...@...  wrote: 
 
 
 Content aside, Gone with the Wind like Birth of a Nation is savvy, 
 populist entertainment. If you are racially sensitive, avoid both at all 
 costs as the narratives will suck you in. Nation is truly remarkable on 
 just a technical basis. It is still a gorgeous looking film. D.W. Griffith 
 was a cinematic genius. 
 
 ~rave! 
 
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: 
  
  
  
  In terms of pure dollars, Avatar will soon become the biggest of all 
  time. (In terms of dollars adjusted for time, sadly, I think Gone With the 
  Wind is still the champ). The country-by-country breakdown is pretty 
  interesting. Australia over thirty mill, France, Algeria and Tunisia, over 
  a hundred, and ninety mill in Russia? Wow, truly an international hit. 
  Even Turkey with eight million. But what's up with Syria: only eighty-seven 
  thousand? 
 
  
  
  
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Avatar Keeps Rolling on Worldwide

2010-01-26 Thread Keith Johnson
One word: exacerbate 

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From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:29:48 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Avatar Keeps Rolling on Worldwide 






And, where was our race headed before 1915? 

~rave? 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: 
 
 That movie changed the course of our race. 
 
 On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...wrote: 
 
  
  
  And President Woodrow Wilson, after seeing a private screening of Birth of 
  a Nation at the White House, called it the most important movie ever 
  made. No surprise: he presided over a lot of decisions that strengthened 
  segregation in a wide swath of American life. 
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... 
  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:20:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
  Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Avatar Keeps Rolling on Worldwide 
  
  
  
  Shot by a genius that was personally responsible for the rebirth of the kkk 
  and the racial stereotypes about black men, and mexicans that are still 
  with 
  us today. 
  
  On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:03 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: 
  
  Content aside, Gone with the Wind like Birth of a Nation is savvy, 
  populist entertainment. If you are racially sensitive, avoid both at all 
  costs as the narratives will suck you in. Nation is truly remarkable on 
  just a technical basis. It is still a gorgeous looking film. D.W. Griffith 
  was a cinematic genius. 
  
  ~rave! 
  
  
  --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ 
  wrote: 
   
   
   
   In terms of pure dollars, Avatar will soon become the biggest of all 
  time. (In terms of dollars adjusted for time, sadly, I think Gone With 
  the 
  Wind is still the champ). The country-by-country breakdown is pretty 
  interesting. Australia over thirty mill, France, Algeria and Tunisia, over 
  a 
  hundred, and ninety mill in Russia? Wow, truly an international hit. 
  Even Turkey with eight million. But what's up with Syria: only 
  eighty-seven 
  thousand? 
   
   
   
   http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intlid=avatar.htm 
   
  
  
  
  
   
  
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Avatar Keeps Rolling on Worldwide

2010-01-26 Thread Keith Johnson
Okay, so where's the historical record that Wilson *condemned* this film? that 
he argued that blacks weren't as portrayed in it? I haven't ever seen those. I 
know the history: he said things and made moves early on to halfway help blacks 
(or at least not hurt us), but in short order tacitly, passively and actively 
encouraged further segregation in this country. And come on: saying he didn't 
approve the film, but only said he saw the Klan as a natural outgrowth of the 
lawlessness of the South? What am I supposed to do with that, accept it? It 
still shows a level of racism, bigotry and insensitivity endemic to white men 
of that time. And at some point we have to quit saying eveyrone was doing it, 
it was expedient, and just say it was wrong. 

- Original Message - 
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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:36:00 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Avatar Keeps Rolling on Worldwide 






This is not entirely accurate. Thomas Dixon, author of the source play The 
Clansman, was a former classmate of President Woodrow Wilson at Johns Hopkins 
University. Dixon arranged a screening at the White House, for Wilson, members 
of his cabinet, and their families. Wilson was reported to have commented of 
the film that it is like writing history with lightning. And my only regret is 
that it is all so terribly true. In Wilson: the new freedom, Arthur Link 
quotes Wilson's aide, Joseph Tumulty, who denied Wilson said this and also 
claims that the President was entirely unaware of the nature of the play 
before it was presented and at no time has expressed his approbation of it. 

However, Woodrow Wilson's History of the American People explained the Ku 
Klux Klan of the late 1860s as the natural outgrowth of Reconstruction, a 
lawless reaction to a lawless period. Wilson noted that the Klan began to 
attempt by intimidation what they were not allowed to attempt by the ballot or 
by any ordered course of public action.[11] In the film, approbation for the 
Klan, citing Wilson's History, is directly quoted. 

Relentless in publicizing the film, Dixon was apparently the source for the 
quotation. It has been repeated so often in print that it has taken on a 
separate life. Dixon went so far as to promote the film as Federally 
endorsed. After controversy over the film had grown, Wilson wrote that he 
disapproved of the unfortunate production. 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: 
 
 And President Woodrow Wilson, after seeing a private screening of Birth of a 
 Nation at the White House, called it the most important movie ever made. 
 No surprise: he presided over a lot of decisions that strengthened 
 segregation in a wide swath of American life. 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:20:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Avatar Keeps Rolling on Worldwide 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Shot by a genius that was personally responsible for the rebirth of the kkk 
 and the racial stereotypes about black men, and mexicans that are still with 
 us today. 
 
 
 On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:03 AM, Kelwyn  ravena...@...  wrote: 
 
 
 Content aside, Gone with the Wind like Birth of a Nation is savvy, 
 populist entertainment. If you are racially sensitive, avoid both at all 
 costs as the narratives will suck you in. Nation is truly remarkable on 
 just a technical basis. It is still a gorgeous looking film. D.W. Griffith 
 was a cinematic genius. 
 
 ~rave! 
 
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: 
  
  
  
  In terms of pure dollars, Avatar will soon become the biggest of all 
  time. (In terms of dollars adjusted for time, sadly, I think Gone With the 
  Wind is still the champ). The country-by-country breakdown is pretty 
  interesting. Australia over thirty mill, France, Algeria and Tunisia, over 
  a hundred, and ninety mill in Russia? Wow, truly an international hit. 
  Even Turkey with eight million. But what's up with Syria: only eighty-seven 
  thousand? 
 
  
  
  
  http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intlid=avatar.htm 
  
 
 
 
 
  
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish

2010-01-26 Thread Keith Johnson
Doesn't do a lot for me. I stand by the women I listed below as being prettier, 
sexier, and more attractive in personality. 
But that's just me, this is truly a matter of personal taste. 

- Original Message - 
From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:48:25 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish 






--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:   
Rather than Berry, I humbly suggest looking up any movie with Selma Hayek in 
it--the dancing scene in that vampire movie alone is worth the price of ten 
shots of Berry's nekkid chest--this despite Hayek keeping her clothes on! Or 
anything that features Sanaa Lathan, she of the incredibly cute smile and 
dreamy eyes that just suck one in. Or anything with Gabrielle Union, face as 
pretty and perfect as a living doll's. Nia Long in Love Jones is just a treat 
to look at too --and it's a good movie to boot.  
I see you and raise you: 


~rave! 







Re: [scifinoir2] Syfy movie title contest

2010-01-26 Thread Mr. Worf
LOL! The prize is a movie making kit. I would love to get that prize.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Martin Baxter
truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote:



 Medieval Monstrosity

 And, if this wins, we all own Siffy. Start planning the revolution.


 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
 bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




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 Subject: [scifinoir2] Syfy movie title contest


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RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Scorned Lover of Obama Adviser Uses Billboards to Vent

2010-01-26 Thread Tracey de Morsella
That is what I am saying too.  He is special

Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer
The Green Economy Post
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Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Scorned Lover of Obama Adviser Uses Billboards
to Vent

I'm not saying she should have done what she did particularly because
putting your business all on front street is embarrassing on her part too,
but homeboy is hardly a victim. I'm not sure of the children situation but
outside of that what innocent people? It seems he did her pretty dirty and
led her on for a long, long time. That mess of a situation is between him
her, and I guess his wife.  As long as she didn't physically disfigure or
seriously injure dude he needs to eat that and keep it moving. I don't feel
anything for him.
--Original Message--
From: Dorothy Hamm
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
To: Keith Johnson
Cc: Daryle ' 'Lockhart
Cc: afrikanm...@hotmail.com
Cc: Albert Fields
Cc: bettil...@msn.com
Cc: Cinq
Cc: duva...@hotmail.com
Cc: fis...@bellsouth.net
Cc: GTW
Cc: Jeffrey Ballou
Cc: Kai
Cc: kalpub...@aol.com
Cc: Kera
Cc: Leroy Hughes
Cc: Logic
Cc: Martin Baxter
Cc: Marvalous
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Cc: Myself
Cc: Valery Jean
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Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Scorned Lover of Obama Adviser Uses Billboards
to Vent
Sent: Jan 26, 2010 3:18 PM

Yeah, I get it too.  She doesn't get mad--she gets even.  And if innocent
people get hurt in the process..well that's too bad.  I have to wonder if
she would do this if her former lover had not had connections to Obama.  She
had to know that her action adds a bit of fuel to the republican's destroy
Obama by any means fire.    


   
--- On Tue, 1/26/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From:
Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT:
Scorned Lover of Obama Adviser Uses Billboards to Vent To:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 1:37 PM I didn't
think you were defending her. I get it.Weird stuff. Sent: Tuesday, January
26, 2010 12:48:46 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2]
OT: Scorned Lover of Obama Adviser Uses Billboards to Vent   I know
it sounded like I was defending her.  I wasn’t .  I wanted to try to
understand what could possess her to go off like that and not I get it.  I
do not think she is justified.  Like I said she is a loon.  I don’t excuse
her behavior – I just think aftger reading everything I better understand it
– at least more than when I read the lead. 
 
I think she embarrassed herself incredibly,  and did more harm to herself
than him.   Also she is not a well known actress, so if he left her with
money as it seems that has, she wasted a lot on those billboards.  Someone
on the list said she may never get a man to date her again.  That could be
an understatement.  That type of stuff scares away female friends too. 
Also,  I do not see her getting any acting work anytime soon.    If
anything, I think she needs some psychiatric help. 
 
From:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
 

Don't think i'm letting him off the hook if that's true. I just find the
response sad. i guess all this Facebook/Twitter/Internet/TMZ exposure is
getting to me: everyone's putting their business out nowadays, and it's just
really sad. Oh well, could be worse, I guess: she could have Bobbitted hi
Sent via BlackBerry by ATT



Re: [scifinoir2] Movie - Geisha Assassin

2010-01-26 Thread Mr. Worf
The later movies made me loose interest in him. I was initially impressed by
his maneuvers and his roguishness of not being able to obtain insurance.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Martin Baxter
truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote:



 I'm not fond of his recent stuff, the Rush Hour movies in particular. I
 loved his stuff from the 70s and 80s, especially his Police Story movies.
 Not much in plot either, but I think of the action in ADD terms, hit points
 for each blow taken/delivered.


 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
 bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




 --
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:18:26 -0800
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Movie - Geisha Assassin



  I'm not a fan of his. I enjoyed some of his big stunts, and the stuff he
 did in the 70s, but that's about it.

 The Geisha movie is just a bit cartoony. It isn't a complete movie really.
 Like I said no plot.


 On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
  wrote:



 If it's primarily wire fu, then I won't like it. Even when I was young,
 watching the Saturday afternoon kung-fu movie block, I found myself frowning
 at the wire sequences, without really knowing why. My first Jackie Chan
 flick was like manna from the gods. Just saw Operation Condor for the
 umpteenth time, and I still found myself jumping with glee, as if seeing it
 for the first time.


 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
 bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




 --
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 18:43:12 -0800
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Movie - Geisha Assassin


  First off this movie is definitely Saturday matinee faire. Very little
 plot and mostly all action. It took over half of the movie before I learned
 what the main character's name is, but she is apparently out to get revenge
 for her dead father. This required her to attack her father's killer while
 dressed as a geisha. Anyone that has studied geisha would know that being a
 geisha is a martial art within itself.

 She takes on many different fighters from ninja to a monk. Many of the
 fight scenes are run of the mill wire fu scenes, but there are some
 exceptions. One scene in particular drops the wire fu and goes for realism
 in a hand to hand combat scene. Very nice job.

 But alas it is mostly martial art eye candy. :)


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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?

2010-01-26 Thread Mr. Worf
Rent 300 or watch it on tv. Its not worth a purchase unless you are looking
for the extras.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Martin Baxter
truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote:



 If that's all the show will ever be, then it would be more economical to go
 out and buy 300 than to subscribe to Showtime.


 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
 bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




 --
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
 Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:44:00 +

 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?


  All hail Spartacus! :)

 I just watched the first episode and I have to say that the director that
 shot this must have had 300 on infinite replay when they were making this.
 The fight scenes although realistic looking in action turn to cartoons when
 everything is slowed down to allow the special effect blood to splatter
 makes it laughable.

 Has anyone watched the series called Rome? Spartacus ain't it. Spartacus is
 the dumbed down blood and guts version for teen boys that has nudity in it.
 I don't think that when they shot this series that the actor knew that they
 were going to make the serious action into gore porn.

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@...
 wrote:
 
 
  (standing ovation)
 
  If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
 bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
 
 
 
 
  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
  From: keithbjohn...@...
  Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 00:09:14 +
  Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Absolutely, I just have an issue with lazy writing on that level unless
 it's intentional. In Hercules and Xena, for example, the anachronistic
 language was intentional and sometimes funny. The god Apollo, for example,
 was portrayed as a magical surfer type, who even said Dude. But
 Spartacus, from what i can tell, is trying to be serious drama, so I just
 can't get past such gaffes.
  I've noticed more and more in recent years that problem in historical
 dramas. I see a lot of them where the characters are speaking idiomatically
 as if they're from modern American. Even if they use the time-appropriate
 words, the way those words are structured into phrases is just off. That
 always irritates me. For example, don't tell me you're giving me a
 well-written drama that takes place in, say, a Puritan village in the 1700s,
 then have a young person ask another How's it going?
  Lazy...
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@...
  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 7:01:06 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
  Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Nope... they say that it was invented around the 1100s. But there had to
 be a similar word back then.
 
 
  On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Was the f-word even being used by the Britons during the time of
 Spartacus?
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@...
 
  To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 3:17:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 
  Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Again with you all the way, Keith. THe curse words they're using are
 mostly Anglo-Saxon, something that folks who live in Greece (If I've got the
 geography right) aren't likely to speak.
 
  If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
 bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
 
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
 
 
 
 
 
  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 
  From: keithbjohn...@...
  Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 04:37:09 +
  Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Looking at part of it again, the fight scenes really do border on kinda
  funny, the 300-style imitation is so over the top it reminds me more
  of the hilariously bloody fight scene with the Black Knight in Monty
  Python and The Holy Grail. I mean, seriously, the blood is spattering
  and splatering like red water from a burst balloon. One dude got
  knocked in the back of the head, and blood sprayed all over it was
  funny. The showrunners seem to have an almost perverse interest in
  showing closeups of flesh cut and spread, bodies impaled. Silly,
  gratuitous, unmoving.
 
  Quite a bit of nudity too, including of Lucy Lawless I believe. Bit of
  a shock that, seeing Xena topless, but much better than seeing the
  dudes' naked bottoms. :(
 
  Also there seems to be 

Re: [scifinoir2] I can't comprehend

2010-01-26 Thread Mr. Worf
I saw an indie film that was similar to Revolutionary Road but not exactly
like it. It was set in NYC.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Martin Baxter
truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote:



 No,m rave, you shouldn't. I've only had one decent review of that one from
 friends in my circle, of all races. It's just  a strange movie, almost
 painful to watch in places for me.

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
 bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




 --
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 From: ravena...@yahoo.com
 Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:35:30 +
 Subject: [scifinoir2] I can't comprehend


  I am watching Revolutionary Road and I can't comprehend of a movie like
 that being made with black people. I should be able to comprehend that;
 shouldn't I?

 rave?



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Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish

2010-01-26 Thread C.W. Badie
(sigh) He said Nia long...(sigh)

Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet
From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie

--- On Tue, 1/26/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote:


From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 3:02 PM


  




Doesn't do a lot for me. I stand by the women I listed below as being prettier, 
sexier, and more attractive in personality.
But that's just me, this is truly a matter of personal taste.

- Original Message -
From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo. com
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:48:25 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish

  



--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ... wrote:  
 Rather than Berry, I humbly suggest looking up any movie with Selma Hayek in 
it--the dancing scene in that vampire movie alone is worth the price of ten 
shots of Berry's nekkid chest--this despite Hayek keeping her clothes on! Or 
anything that features Sanaa Lathan, she of the incredibly cute smile and 
dreamy eyes that just suck one in. Or anything with Gabrielle Union, face as 
pretty and perfect as a living doll's. Nia Long in Love Jones is just a treat 
to look at too --and it's a good movie to boot.  
I see you and raise you:


~rave!












  

RE: [scifinoir2] 40 Gbps - Fastest Internet Connection to a Single Home

2010-01-26 Thread C.W. Badie
Z...Huh?

Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet
From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie

--- On Tue, 1/26/10, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote:


From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] 40 Gbps - Fastest Internet Connection to a Single Home
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 2:36 PM


  



I'll be needing a Sugar Mama to hook me up with the latest AlienWare rig. Guess 
I should stop typing and start hitting online dating sites...

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik






To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
From: HelloMahogany@ gmail.com
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:24:53 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] 40 Gbps - Fastest Internet Connection to a Single Home

  


Hell with that kind of connection you would need a twin quad processor and an 
array of sd memory cards to keep up. Which can be done if folks have the money. 



On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ hotmail.com 
wrote:




Don't fret, guys! With that 40-gig setup, I'll be posting here fifteen times a 
second.


If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik






To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
From: jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 12:11:23 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] 40 Gbps - Fastest Internet Connection to a Single Home

  


I will second that!
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com 
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 00:54:50 -0800 (PST)
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] 40 Gbps - Fastest Internet Connection to a Single Home

  




I'll miss you, buddy...

Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet
From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie

--- On Sun, 1/24/10, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ hotmail.com wrote:


From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] 40 Gbps - Fastest Internet Connection to a Single Home
To: SciFiNoir2 scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Sunday, January 24, 2010, 4:41 PM


  

I may not be posting for awhile, as I'll be busy packing.


If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik




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40 Gbps - Fastest Internet Connection to a Single Home
Jul 13, 200775-year old Swede has recently got a 40 Gbps internet connection 
directly to her home computer. She is a mum of the internet legend Peter 
Löthberg and they have got money and technology to make a connection like this. 
She decided to persuade internet operators to invest in faster internet 
connections. 

We used to see those optical fiber links and their speed used to be enough. Now 
when I heard about this I want such a connection. I would feel like I can 
download all the internet data in just seconds. Well, I am just joking but it 
is really fast. Imagine she can download a full HD DVD in just 2 seconds. 

My SATA II hard drive speed is just 3 Gbps I can't imagine how a home internet 
speed can be faster than my hard drive. It is a good thing that RAM is still a 
bit faster though.

The secret that stands behind this speed is in new modulation technique. This 
technique allows data to be transferred to de distances up to 2,000 kilometers 
directly between only two routers. This does not involve any intermediary 
transponders which makes the connection even faster.

Of course now you've got to get a high quality fiber optic cable to be able to 
get such speed. Moreover it will surely cost a fortune to get 40 Gbps internet 
connection.

From:
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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?

2010-01-26 Thread C.W. Badie
All I got out of it was 'swing, thrust, (gush!), slice, block (gush!), with 
slow motion on the (gush!) part...That is barely one aspect of 300. There was 
a bit of a hint that people of that age had more blood in there bodies...

Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet
From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie

--- On Tue, 1/26/10, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote:


From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 2:33 PM


  



If that's all the show will ever be, then it would be more economical to go out 
and buy 300 than to subscribe to Showtime.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik






To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
From: HelloMahogany@ gmail.com
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:44:00 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?

  


All hail Spartacus! :) 

I just watched the first episode and I have to say that the director that shot 
this must have had 300 on infinite replay when they were making this. The fight 
scenes although realistic looking in action turn to cartoons when everything is 
slowed down to allow the special effect blood to splatter makes it laughable. 

Has anyone watched the series called Rome? Spartacus ain't it. Spartacus is the 
dumbed down blood and guts version for teen boys that has nudity in it. I don't 
think that when they shot this series that the actor knew that they were going 
to make the serious action into gore porn. 

--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ... wrote:

 
 (standing ovation)
 
 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
 
 http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik
 
 
 
 
 To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
 From: KeithBJohnson@ ...
 Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 00:09:14 +
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Absolutely, I just have an issue with lazy writing on that level unless it's 
 intentional. In Hercules and Xena, for example, the anachronistic 
 language was intentional and sometimes funny. The god Apollo, for example, 
 was portrayed as a magical surfer type, who even said Dude. But 
 Spartacus, from what i can tell, is trying to be serious drama, so I just 
 can't get past such gaffes.
 I've noticed more and more in recent years that problem in historical dramas. 
 I see a lot of them where the characters are speaking idiomatically as if 
 they're from modern American. Even if they use the time-appropriate words, 
 the way those words are structured into phrases is just off. That always 
 irritates me. For example, don't tell me you're giving me a well-written 
 drama that takes place in, say, a Puritan village in the 1700s, then have a 
 young person ask another How's it going?
 Lazy...
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ ...
 To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 7:01:06 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Nope... they say that it was invented around the 1100s. But there had to be a 
 similar word back then. 
 
 
 On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ... wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Was the f-word even being used by the Britons during the time of Spartacus?
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ...
 
 To: SciFiNoir2 scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 3:17:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 
 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Again with you all the way, Keith. THe curse words they're using are mostly 
 Anglo-Saxon, something that folks who live in Greece (If I've got the 
 geography right) aren't likely to speak.
 
 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
 
 
 http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik
 
 
 
 
 
 To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
 
 From: KeithBJohnson@ ...
 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 04:37:09 +
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Looking at part of it again, the fight scenes really do border on kinda
 funny, the 300-style imitation is so over the top it reminds me more
 of the hilariously bloody fight scene with the Black Knight in Monty
 Python and The Holy Grail. I mean, seriously, the blood is spattering
 and splatering like red water from a burst balloon. One dude got
 knocked in the 

RE: [scifinoir2] Pluto's Little Sister Found?

2010-01-26 Thread C.W. Badie
...And I'll still be here griping about when you and Kieth are going to put 
your stuff in print...Pretend you didn't hear that...as usual...

Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet
From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie

--- On Tue, 1/26/10, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote:


From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Pluto's Little Sister Found?
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 2:22 PM


  



I'm gonna have to start writing space-based fiction again, just to use some of 
the stuff that popping out of the woodwork.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik






To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
From: HelloMahogany@ gmail.com
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:54:09 -0800
Subject: [scifinoir2] Pluto's Little Sister Found?

  






Pluto's Little Sister Found?
When it comes to objects in the Kuiper Belt, the vast, icy ring that encircles 
our solar system, size matters.


 

By Irene Klotz | Mon Jan 25, 2010 01:49 PM ET 


 The smallest object ever found in the Kuiper Belt, a vast, icy ring that 
encircles our solar system, helps to explain how these debris disks are formed.
NASA, ESA, and G. Bacon (STScI)


THE GIST: 


An icy body one-third of a mile wide is the smallest known object ever found in 
the Kuiper Belt.
The Kuiper Belt is a vast, icy ring just beyond Neptune that encircles the 
solar system.
The discovery links solar system formation to planet-forming debris disks 
around other stars.



The frozen worlds orbiting beyond Neptune include not only dwarf planets like 
Pluto and Ceres, but also a tiny, icy toehold just one-third of a mile wide.
The discovery, made by a team of astronomers scouring Hubble Space Telescope 
observations, sets a new record for the smallest Kuiper Belt object found. 
Previously, the smallest known Pluto sibling was a 30-mile-wide Kuiper Belt 
object.
The Kuiper Belt region, located about 4.6 billion miles away, is filled with 
objects believed to be left over from the solar system's formation. It is 
similar to the asteroid belt, located between Mars and Jupiter, but much 
bigger. Unlike the asteroids that contain rock and metals, Kuiper Belt objects 
have icy bodies of methane, ammonia, water and other volatiles.
The Kuiper Belt is particularly interesting to scientists looking for planetary 
systems beyond our solar system. Planets are believed to form from collapsing 
disks of gas and dust orbiting stars.
The dusty particles begin to stick together and eventually build up larger 
objects. Not all make it into planets. It's the leftover ones are what we're 
seeing when we look at Kuiper Belt objects and asteroids, University of 
Arizona astronomer John Stansberry told Discovery News.
The finding of a very small Kuiper Belt object links our solar system's debris 
disk to those observed around other stars, added University of Toronto's Hilke 
Schlichting, who led the team that made the discovery.
We can observe micron-sized particles (in extrasolar debris disks), which are 
thought to be induced by collisions, from grinding down larger objects, 
Schlichting told Discovery News. By finding this evidence for collision 
grinding in the Kuiper Belt, it seems to be the missing link between our Kuiper 
Belt and extrasolar debris disks.
When it comes to Kuiper Belt objects, size matters. Scientists can use this 
information to determine an object's density and what it is made from. In 
larger bodies, gravity plays the dominant role in shaping objects. In smaller 
ones, it is the strength of its materials that matters.


WATCH VIDEO: Astrophysicist Andy Puckett explores the universe, especially 
undiscovered asteroids that could one day smack into our planet. Related Links: 





Taking the Kuiper Belt Census
Wide Angle: Asteroids
HowStuffWorks. com: Kuiper Belt
Pluto, Sponsored By McDonalds 



The discovery of just one small object is probably not going to lead to great 
advances. But if we started to discover statistically significant numbers of 
them, then we can compare the number of large and small bodies, and you can 
start to get a handle on the material strength of the objects. It also might 
tell you about the violence of the collisions, said Stansberry.
Potentially, it might be a new field if we can make more discoveries like 
this, he added.
Schlichting and colleagues combed through 4.5 years of Hubble data to find the 
tiny Kuiper Belt Object, discovered as it passed in front of a background star, 
momentarily dimming its light.
These tiny objects are much rarer than you would expect, Schlichting told 
Discovery News.
Based on the number of known objects in the Kuiper Belt, scientists would have 
expected to find between 30 and 100 tiny bodies in their analysis of 50,000 
guide stars observed by Hubble.
So far, the team 

Re: [scifinoir2] Question

2010-01-26 Thread C.W. Badie
Hmm...Sounds like a Chuckie Cheese birthday party I went to once...

Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet
From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie

--- On Tue, 1/26/10, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Question
To: Black SciFi blackscifihorrorfantasyc...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Sci Fi scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 7:16 AM


  







has anyone seen this movie Gas-s-s-s-s that is on retroplex right now?  it's 
about kids taking over the world after a mysterious gas kills everyone over 
25.  it is simply stupid, but funny.  roger corman of course.  they just had a 
scene in the junk yard where they were shooting at each other calling out old 
movie star names with all the sound effects of guns shooting, but they were not 
shooting.  the guys were falling like they had been shot, but it was hilarious!

Fate.









  

Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish

2010-01-26 Thread C.W. Badie
I've met and seen folk who look better naked and others who look great in 
clothes...Halle is the latter...Yeah, I know there are some who look great 
bothe ways...I am a school of the full-figured 60's and 70's genre No one 
mentioned Nola Gaye, Lisa Nicole Carson, Pam Grier (who does not need to be 
mentioned along with Raquel or Sophia) and a few other youngsters whom I have 
trouble remembering...Nope, didn't forget Tracey either (wink!)...

Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet
From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie

--- On Tue, 1/26/10, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 2:48 AM


  



--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ... wrote:  
 Rather than Berry, I humbly suggest looking up any movie with Selma Hayek in 
it--the dancing scene in that vampire movie alone is worth the price of ten 
shots of Berry's nekkid chest--this despite Hayek keeping her clothes on! Or 
anything that features Sanaa Lathan, she of the incredibly cute smile and 
dreamy eyes that just suck one in. Or anything with Gabrielle Union, face as 
pretty and perfect as a living doll's. Nia Long in Love Jones is just a treat 
to look at too --and it's a good movie to boot.  
I see you and raise you:


~rave!










  

RE: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish

2010-01-26 Thread Tracey de Morsella
How sweet!

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of C.W. Badie
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 6:41 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish

 







I've met and seen folk who look better naked and others who look great in 
clothes...Halle is the latter...Yeah, I know there are some who look great 
bothe ways...I am a school of the full-figured 60's and 70's genre No one 
mentioned Nola Gaye, Lisa Nicole Carson, Pam Grier (who does not need to be 
mentioned along with Raquel or Sophia) and a few other youngsters whom I have 
trouble remembering...Nope, didn't forget Tracey either (wink!)...

Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet
From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie

--- On Tue, 1/26/10, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 2:48 AM

  

--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ... wrote:  
 Rather than Berry, I humbly suggest looking up any movie with Selma Hayek in 
it--the dancing scene in that vampire movie alone is worth the price of ten 
shots of Berry's nekkid chest--this despite Hayek keeping her clothes on! Or 
anything that features Sanaa Lathan, she of the incredibly cute smile and 
dreamy eyes that just suck one in. Or anything with Gabrielle Union, face as 
pretty and perfect as a living doll's. Nia Long in Love Jones is just a treat 
to look at too --and it's a good movie to boot.  

I see you and raise you:





~rave!





  
http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs168.snc3/19533_1334980372182_1161253702_31019682_1829549_n.jpg
 











Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?

2010-01-26 Thread Mr. Worf
You forgot swing thrust kick slice and the ever popular jump like Michael
Jordan kill move. The arena scene would have been awesome if they had kept
them at speed because the effects were very realistic. (like the leg
chopping) Stopping the action to do the blood gushing was just silly.

The other thing that I thought was interesting about the production was the
use of green screen. This may be one of the few shows that use it for most
of the shots. The rest looked like shots from the Paramount lot.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 6:22 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.comwrote:



 All I got out of it was 'swing, thrust, (gush!), slice, block (gush!), with
 slow motion on the (gush!) part...That is barely one aspect of 300. There
 was a bit of a hint that people of that age had more blood in there
 bodies...


 Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet
 From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie

 --- On *Tue, 1/26/10, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com* wrote:


 From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com

 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?
 To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 2:33 PM


 If that's all the show will ever be, then it would be more economical to go
 out and buy 300 than to subscribe to Showtime.

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
 bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 http://www.youtube. com/watch? 
 v=fQUxw9aUVikhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




 --
 To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com

 From: HelloMahogany@ gmail.com
 Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:44:00 +
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?


  All hail Spartacus! :)

 I just watched the first episode and I have to say that the director that
 shot this must have had 300 on infinite replay when they were making this.
 The fight scenes although realistic looking in action turn to cartoons when
 everything is slowed down to allow the special effect blood to splatter
 makes it laughable.

 Has anyone watched the series called Rome? Spartacus ain't it. Spartacus is
 the dumbed down blood and guts version for teen boys that has nudity in it.
 I don't think that when they shot this series that the actor knew that they
 were going to make the serious action into gore porn.

 --- In scifino...@yahoogro 
 ups.comhttp://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com,
 Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ... wrote:
 
 
  (standing ovation)
 
  If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
 bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
 
  http://www.youtube. com/watch? 
  v=fQUxw9aUVikhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
 
 
 
 
  To: scifino...@yahoogro 
  ups.comhttp://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com

  From: KeithBJohnson@ ...
  Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 00:09:14 +
  Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Absolutely, I just have an issue with lazy writing on that level unless
 it's intentional. In Hercules and Xena, for example, the anachronistic
 language was intentional and sometimes funny. The god Apollo, for example,
 was portrayed as a magical surfer type, who even said Dude. But
 Spartacus, from what i can tell, is trying to be serious drama, so I just
 can't get past such gaffes.
  I've noticed more and more in recent years that problem in historical
 dramas. I see a lot of them where the characters are speaking idiomatically
 as if they're from modern American. Even if they use the time-appropriate
 words, the way those words are structured into phrases is just off. That
 always irritates me. For example, don't tell me you're giving me a
 well-written drama that takes place in, say, a Puritan village in the 1700s,
 then have a young person ask another How's it going?
  Lazy...
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ ...
  To: scifino...@yahoogro 
  ups.comhttp://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 7:01:06 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
  Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Nope... they say that it was invented around the 1100s. But there had to
 be a similar word back then.
 
 
  On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ...
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Was the f-word even being used by the Britons during the time of
 Spartacus?
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ...
 
  To: SciFiNoir2 scifino...@yahoogro 
  ups.comhttp://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com
 
  Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 3:17:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 
  Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and 

[scifinoir2] The Hobbit Pulls a Spider-Man?

2010-01-26 Thread Tracey de Morsella
Fangeeks are gonna have to hold their horses. The precious is on hold again.

The pair of Hobbit movies has been pushed back to the end of 2012, according
to Variety http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118014180.html . The studio
tells the trade the best outlook for the Lord of the Rings prequels is in
the fourth quarter of that year, but even that's not set in stone.

First there was that drama
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b57026_jackson_ready_hobbit_action.html
with Sir Peter
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/celebs/c115316_Peter_Jackson.html  Jackson
(yeah, he was knighted), then the estate of author J.R.R. Tolkien began
battling over profits
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b143099_hobbit_on_its_way_there_back_again.
html  and now the delay is due to changes at New Line Cinema.

Here's what we do know: Jackson is producing, Hellboy's Guillermo del Toro
is directing
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b57325_del_toro_hobbit-forming_director.htm
l  and, from the looks of it, Ian McKellan and Andy Serkis will be back
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b529_mckellen_confirms_hobbit_habit.html
in the fellowship for the two-parter. Plus, Orlando
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/celebs/c115113_Orlando_Bloom.html  Bloom
told MTV
http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2010/01/25/orlando-bloom-would-be-willing-to-retu
rn-as-legolas-in-the-hobbit/  earlier this week that he'd be game to strap
on his Elf wig yet again, and Cate
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/celebs/c109359_Cate_Blanchett.html
Blanchett has also expressed interest in heading back to Middle-earth.

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b164103_hobbit_pulls_spider-man.html?utm_sou
rce=eonlineutm_medium=rssfeedsutm_campaign=imdb_tv-movies

 



Re: [scifinoir2] Movie - Geisha Assassin

2010-01-26 Thread Keith Johnson
I really liked Who Am I?, but agree with you. His humour gets a bit over the 
top, especially that movie Rumble in the Bronx. I know that Chan's thing is 
humour, but I really wish he'd do more serious stuff. His moves lent to pure 
drama could be amazing. It's why I prefer Jet Li: serious and seriously 
skilled. I was looking forward to their pairing in The Forbidden Kingdom, 
only to be crushed when it turned out to have more humour, and they felt the 
need to add a dopey white kid to the story. What a waste... 

- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:48:08 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Movie - Geisha Assassin 






I'm not fond of his recent stuff, the Rush Hour movies in particular. I loved 
his stuff from the 70s and 80s, especially his Police Story movies. Not much 
in plot either, but I think of the action in ADD terms, hit points for each 
blow taken/delivered. 

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com 
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:18:26 -0800 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Movie - Geisha Assassin 




I'm not a fan of his. I enjoyed some of his big stunts, and the stuff he did in 
the 70s, but that's about it. 

The Geisha movie is just a bit cartoony. It isn't a complete movie really. Like 
I said no plot. 



On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Martin Baxter  truthseeker...@hotmail.com  
wrote: 





If it's primarily wire fu, then I won't like it. Even when I was young, 
watching the Saturday afternoon kung-fu movie block, I found myself frowning at 
the wire sequences, without really knowing why. My first Jackie Chan flick was 
like manna from the gods. Just saw Operation Condor for the umpteenth time, 
and I still found myself jumping with glee, as if seeing it for the first time. 


If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com 
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 18:43:12 -0800 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Movie - Geisha Assassin 







First off this movie is definitely Saturday matinee faire. Very little plot and 
mostly all action. It took over half of the movie before I learned what the 
main character's name is, but she is apparently out to get revenge for her dead 
father. This required her to attack her father's killer while dressed as a 
geisha. Anyone that has studied geisha would know that being a geisha is a 
martial art within itself. 

She takes on many different fighters from ninja to a monk. Many of the fight 
scenes are run of the mill wire fu scenes, but there are some exceptions. One 
scene in particular drops the wire fu and goes for realism in a hand to hand 
combat scene. Very nice job. 

But alas it is mostly martial art eye candy. :) 


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Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Scorned Lover of Obama Adviser Uses Billboards to Vent

2010-01-26 Thread Keith Johnson
It makes everyone look bad when you put your stuff out here like this. Settle 
this stuff privately as possible and move on. Too many people nowadays feel 
they have to shout I was wronged! to the world at large, when women and men 
every day get wronged by someone they trusted. And again, I'm not sure how much 
of this was all him being the lying manipulator, so Imma hold judgement putting 
it all on him. 

- Original Message - 
From: everything...@nyc.rr.com 
To: Dorothy Hamm dorothyh...@sbcglobal.net, scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, 
Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
Cc: Daryle ' 'Lockhart dar...@darylelockhart.com, afrikanm...@hotmail.com, 
Albert Fields cbilmarket...@yahoo.com, bettil...@msn.com, Cinq 
cinque3...@verizon.net, duva...@hotmail.com, fis...@bellsouth.net, GTW 
gwashin...@aol.com, Jeffrey Ballou jeffreypbal...@gmail.com, Kai 
killa...@gmail.com, kalpub...@aol.com, Kera imke...@gmail.com, Leroy 
Hughes seriousnup...@yahoo.com, Logic logic1...@aol.com, Martin Baxter 
truthseeker...@icqmail.com, Marvalous mmb1...@gmail.com, Michael Gordon 
gord...@indiana.edu, michael v w gordon michael.v.w.gor...@gmail.com, 
ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com, rs...@yahoo.com, Valery Jean 
valeryjea...@yahoo.com, Wendell Theophilus Smith 
wendellsmit...@gmail.com, Whitney J Evans sonofafieldne...@sbcglobal.net, 
williamsf...@speakeasy.net, Zanfordino Anthony beta...@yahoo.com, 
tdemorse...@multiculturaladvantage.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 5:45:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Scorned Lover of Obama Adviser Uses Billboards to 
Vent 

I'm not saying she should have done what she did particularly because putting 
your business all on front street is embarrassing on her part too, but homeboy 
is hardly a victim. I'm not sure of the children situation but outside of that 
what innocent people? It seems he did her pretty dirty and led her on for a 
long, long time. That mess of a situation is between him her, and I guess his 
wife. As long as she didn't physically disfigure or seriously injure dude he 
needs to eat that and keep it moving. I don't feel anything for him. 
--Original Message-- 
From: Dorothy Hamm 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
To: Keith Johnson 
Cc: Daryle ' 'Lockhart 
Cc: afrikanm...@hotmail.com 
Cc: Albert Fields 
Cc: bettil...@msn.com 
Cc: Cinq 
Cc: duva...@hotmail.com 
Cc: fis...@bellsouth.net 
Cc: GTW 
Cc: Jeffrey Ballou 
Cc: Kai 
Cc: kalpub...@aol.com 
Cc: Kera 
Cc: Leroy Hughes 
Cc: Logic 
Cc: Martin Baxter 
Cc: Marvalous 
Cc: Michael Gordon 
Cc: michael v w gordon 
Cc: ravenadal 
Cc: rs...@yahoo.com 
Cc: Myself 
Cc: Valery Jean 
Cc: Wendell Theophilus Smith 
Cc: Whitney J Evans 
Cc: williamsf...@speakeasy.net 
Cc: Zanfordino Anthony 
Cc: tdemorse...@multiculturaladvantage.com 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Scorned Lover of Obama Adviser Uses Billboards to 
Vent 
Sent: Jan 26, 2010 3:18 PM 

Yeah, I get it too. She doesn't get mad--she gets even. And if innocent people 
get hurt in the process..well that's too bad. I have to wonder if she would do 
this if her former lover had not had connections to Obama. She had to know that 
her action adds a bit of fuel to the republican's destroy Obama by any means 
fire. 



--- On Tue, 1/26/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: 
Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Scorned 
Lover of Obama Adviser Uses Billboards to Vent To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 1:37 PM I didn't think you were defending her. 
I get it.Weird stuff. Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:48:46 AM GMT -05:00 
US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Scorned Lover of Obama Adviser 
Uses Billboards to Vent I know it sounded like I was defending her. I wasn’t . 
I wanted to try to understand what could possess her to go off like that and 
not I get it. I do not think she is justified. Like I said she is a loon. I 
don’t excuse her behavior – I just think aftger reading everything I better 
understand it – at least more than when I read the lead. 

I think she embarrassed herself incredibly, and did more harm to herself than 
him. Also she is not a well known actress, so if he left her with money as it 
seems that has, she wasted a lot on those billboards. Someone on the list said 
she may never get a man to date her again. That could be an understatement. 
That type of stuff scares away female friends too. Also, I do not see her 
getting any acting work anytime soon. If anything, I think she needs some 
psychiatric help. 

From:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On 


Don't think i'm letting him off the hook if that's true. I just find the 
response sad. i guess all this Facebook/Twitter/Internet/TMZ exposure is 
getting to me: everyone's putting their business out nowadays, and it's just 
really sad. Oh well, could be worse, I guess: she could have Bobbitted hi 
Sent via BlackBerry by ATT

Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish

2010-01-26 Thread Keith Johnson
Yeah man! Does it for me way more than Halle Berry. 

- Original Message - 
From: C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:04:06 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish 






(sigh) He said Nia long...(sigh) 

Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet 
From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie 

--- On Tue, 1/26/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: 



From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 3:02 PM 





Doesn't do a lot for me. I stand by the women I listed below as being prettier, 
sexier, and more attractive in personality. 
But that's just me, this is truly a matter of personal taste. 

- Original Message - 
From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo. com 
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:48:25 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish 





--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ... wrote:  
 Rather than Berry, I humbly suggest looking up any movie with Selma Hayek in 
it--the dancing scene in that vampire movie alone is worth the price of ten 
shots of Berry's nekkid chest--this despite Hayek keeping her clothes on! Or 
anything that features Sanaa Lathan, she of the incredibly cute smile and 
dreamy eyes that just suck one in. Or anything with Gabrielle Union, face as 
pretty and perfect as a living doll's. Nia Long in Love Jones is just a treat 
to look at too --and it's a good movie to boot.  
I see you and raise you: 


~rave! 








Re: [scifinoir2] Movie - Geisha Assassin

2010-01-26 Thread Mr. Worf
I'm glad that you brought that up. That seems to be a big trend lately and I
hate it! Just because they are speaking English doesn't mean they need white
people in a Chinese movie. :( Totally ruins it for me.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 I really liked Who Am I?, but agree with you. His humour gets a bit over
 the top, especially that movie Rumble in the Bronx. I know that Chan's
 thing is humour, but I really wish he'd do more serious stuff. His moves
 lent to pure drama could be amazing. It's why I prefer Jet Li: serious and
 seriously skilled. I was looking forward to their pairing in The Forbidden
 Kingdom, only to be crushed when it turned out to have more humour, and
 they felt the need to add a dopey white kid to the story.  What a waste...


 - Original Message -
 From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
 To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:48:08 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Movie - Geisha Assassin



 I'm not fond of his recent stuff, the Rush Hour movies in particular. I
 loved his stuff from the 70s and 80s, especially his Police Story movies.
 Not much in plot either, but I think of the action in ADD terms, hit points
 for each blow taken/delivered.

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
 bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




 --
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:18:26 -0800
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Movie - Geisha Assassin


  I'm not a fan of his. I enjoyed some of his big stunts, and the stuff he
 did in the 70s, but that's about it.

 The Geisha movie is just a bit cartoony. It isn't a complete movie really.
 Like I said no plot.


 On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
  wrote:



 If it's primarily wire fu, then I won't like it. Even when I was young,
 watching the Saturday afternoon kung-fu movie block, I found myself frowning
 at the wire sequences, without really knowing why. My first Jackie Chan
 flick was like manna from the gods. Just saw Operation Condor for the
 umpteenth time, and I still found myself jumping with glee, as if seeing it
 for the first time.


 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
 bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




 --
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 18:43:12 -0800
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Movie - Geisha Assassin


  First off this movie is definitely Saturday matinee faire. Very little
 plot and mostly all action. It took over half of the movie before I learned
 what the main character's name is, but she is apparently out to get revenge
 for her dead father. This required her to attack her father's killer while
 dressed as a geisha. Anyone that has studied geisha would know that being a
 geisha is a martial art within itself.

 She takes on many different fighters from ninja to a monk. Many of the
 fight scenes are run of the mill wire fu scenes, but there are some
 exceptions. One scene in particular drops the wire fu and goes for realism
 in a hand to hand combat scene. Very nice job.

 But alas it is mostly martial art eye candy. :)


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Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish

2010-01-26 Thread Keith Johnson
I was never enamored of Ms. Grier (sacrilege I know!), but poor Lisa Nicole 
Carson did it for me! Too bad she seems to be suffering from serious emotional 
problems. Nola Gaye, yes indeed. And let's not forget Lola Falana and Dianne 
Carroll. Oh--and Sofia Vergara from Modern Family. Wow, wow, wow! 

Halle who? 

- Original Message - 
From: C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:40:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish 






I've met and seen folk who look better naked and others who look great in 
clothes...Halle is the latter...Yeah, I know there are some who look great 
bothe ways...I am a school of the full-figured 60's and 70's genre No one 
mentioned Nola Gaye, Lisa Nicole Carson, Pam Grier (who does not need to be 
mentioned along with Raquel or Sophia) and a few other youngsters whom I have 
trouble remembering...Nope, didn't forget Tracey either (wink!)... 

Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet 
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--- On Tue, 1/26/10, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: 



From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 2:48 AM 




--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ... wrote:  
 Rather than Berry, I humbly suggest looking up any movie with Selma Hayek in 
it--the dancing scene in that vampire movie alone is worth the price of ten 
shots of Berry's nekkid chest--this despite Hayek keeping her clothes on! Or 
anything that features Sanaa Lathan, she of the incredibly cute smile and 
dreamy eyes that just suck one in. Or anything with Gabrielle Union, face as 
pretty and perfect as a living doll's. Nia Long in Love Jones is just a treat 
to look at too --and it's a good movie to boot.  
I see you and raise you: 


~rave! 






Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?

2010-01-26 Thread Keith Johnson
I'm actually surprised at how this show's production value. It is a green 
screen mess... 

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From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:53:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good? 






You forgot swing thrust kick slice and the ever popular jump like Michael 
Jordan kill move. The arena scene would have been awesome if they had kept them 
at speed because the effects were very realistic. (like the leg chopping) 
Stopping the action to do the blood gushing was just silly. 

The other thing that I thought was interesting about the production was the use 
of green screen. This may be one of the few shows that use it for most of the 
shots. The rest looked like shots from the Paramount lot. 


On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 6:22 PM, C.W. Badie  astromancer2...@yahoo.com  
wrote: 





All I got out of it was 'swing, thrust, (gush!), slice, block (gush!), with 
slow motion on the (gush!) part...That is barely one aspect of 300. There was 
a bit of a hint that people of that age had more blood in there bodies... 


Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet 
From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie 

--- On Tue, 1/26/10, Martin Baxter  truthseeker...@hotmail.com  wrote: 



From: Martin Baxter  truthseeker...@hotmail.com  

Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good? 

To: SciFiNoir2  scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com  
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 2:33 PM 





If that's all the show will ever be, then it would be more economical to go out 
and buy 300 than to subscribe to Showtime. 

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant 

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik 





To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 

From: HelloMahogany@ gmail.com 
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:44:00 + 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good? 





All hail Spartacus! :) 

I just watched the first episode and I have to say that the director that shot 
this must have had 300 on infinite replay when they were making this. The fight 
scenes although realistic looking in action turn to cartoons when everything is 
slowed down to allow the special effect blood to splatter makes it laughable. 

Has anyone watched the series called Rome? Spartacus ain't it. Spartacus is the 
dumbed down blood and guts version for teen boys that has nudity in it. I don't 
think that when they shot this series that the actor knew that they were going 
to make the serious action into gore porn. 


--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com , Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ... wrote: 
 
 
 (standing ovation) 
 
 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant 
 
 http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik 
 
 
 
 
 To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 

 From: KeithBJohnson@ ... 
 Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 00:09:14 + 
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Absolutely, I just have an issue with lazy writing on that level unless it's 
 intentional. In Hercules and Xena, for example, the anachronistic 
 language was intentional and sometimes funny. The god Apollo, for example, 
 was portrayed as a magical surfer type, who even said Dude. But 
 Spartacus, from what i can tell, is trying to be serious drama, so I just 
 can't get past such gaffes. 
 I've noticed more and more in recent years that problem in historical dramas. 
 I see a lot of them where the characters are speaking idiomatically as if 
 they're from modern American. Even if they use the time-appropriate words, 
 the way those words are structured into phrases is just off. That always 
 irritates me. For example, don't tell me you're giving me a well-written 
 drama that takes place in, say, a Puritan village in the 1700s, then have a 
 young person ask another How's it going? 
 Lazy... 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ ... 

 To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 7:01:06 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Nope... they say that it was invented around the 1100s. But there had to be a 
 similar word back then. 
 
 
 On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ... wrote: 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Was the f-word even being used by the Britons during the time of Spartacus? 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ... 
 

 To: SciFiNoir2  scifino...@yahoogro ups.com  
 Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 3:17:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
 
 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Re: [scifinoir2] Movie - Geisha Assassin

2010-01-26 Thread Keith Johnson
Back to stupid suits trying to add people to a film they think will pull in key 
demographics. 

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From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:48:00 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Movie - Geisha Assassin 






I'm glad that you brought that up. That seems to be a big trend lately and I 
hate it! Just because they are speaking English doesn't mean they need white 
people in a Chinese movie. :( Totally ruins it for me. 


On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






I really liked Who Am I?, but agree with you. His humour gets a bit over the 
top, especially that movie Rumble in the Bronx. I know that Chan's thing is 
humour, but I really wish he'd do more serious stuff. His moves lent to pure 
drama could be amazing. It's why I prefer Jet Li: serious and seriously 
skilled. I was looking forward to their pairing in The Forbidden Kingdom, 
only to be crushed when it turned out to have more humour, and they felt the 
need to add a dopey white kid to the story. What a waste... 




- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter  truthseeker...@hotmail.com  
To: SciFiNoir2  scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com  
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:48:08 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Movie - Geisha Assassin 






I'm not fond of his recent stuff, the Rush Hour movies in particular. I loved 
his stuff from the 70s and 80s, especially his Police Story movies. Not much 
in plot either, but I think of the action in ADD terms, hit points for each 
blow taken/delivered. 

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com 
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:18:26 -0800 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Movie - Geisha Assassin 




I'm not a fan of his. I enjoyed some of his big stunts, and the stuff he did in 
the 70s, but that's about it. 

The Geisha movie is just a bit cartoony. It isn't a complete movie really. Like 
I said no plot. 



On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Martin Baxter  truthseeker...@hotmail.com  
wrote: 





If it's primarily wire fu, then I won't like it. Even when I was young, 
watching the Saturday afternoon kung-fu movie block, I found myself frowning at 
the wire sequences, without really knowing why. My first Jackie Chan flick was 
like manna from the gods. Just saw Operation Condor for the umpteenth time, 
and I still found myself jumping with glee, as if seeing it for the first time. 


If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com 
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 18:43:12 -0800 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Movie - Geisha Assassin 







First off this movie is definitely Saturday matinee faire. Very little plot and 
mostly all action. It took over half of the movie before I learned what the 
main character's name is, but she is apparently out to get revenge for her dead 
father. This required her to attack her father's killer while dressed as a 
geisha. Anyone that has studied geisha would know that being a geisha is a 
martial art within itself. 

She takes on many different fighters from ninja to a monk. Many of the fight 
scenes are run of the mill wire fu scenes, but there are some exceptions. One 
scene in particular drops the wire fu and goes for realism in a hand to hand 
combat scene. Very nice job. 

But alas it is mostly martial art eye candy. :) 


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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?

2010-01-26 Thread Mr. Worf
It shows the potential what can be done. We have long entered into a new age
of movie production. However except for Sin City and a few others they
really haven't used it to its fullest potential.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 I'm actually surprised at how this show's production value. It is a green
 screen mess...


 - Original Message -
 From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:53:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?



 You forgot swing thrust kick slice and the ever popular jump like Michael
 Jordan kill move. The arena scene would have been awesome if they had kept
 them at speed because the effects were very realistic. (like the leg
 chopping) Stopping the action to do the blood gushing was just silly.

 The other thing that I thought was interesting about the production was the
 use of green screen. This may be one of the few shows that use it for most
 of the shots. The rest looked like shots from the Paramount lot.

 On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 6:22 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.comwrote:



  All I got out of it was 'swing, thrust, (gush!), slice, block (gush!),
 with slow motion on the (gush!) part...That is barely one aspect of 300.
 There was a bit of a hint that people of that age had more blood in there
 bodies...


 Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet
 From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie

 --- On *Tue, 1/26/10, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com* wrote:


 From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com

 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?
 To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 2:33 PM


 If that's all the show will ever be, then it would be more economical to
 go out and buy 300 than to subscribe to Showtime.

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
 bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 http://www.youtube. com/watch? 
 v=fQUxw9aUVikhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




 --
 To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com

 From: HelloMahogany@ gmail.com
 Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:44:00 +
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?


  All hail Spartacus! :)

 I just watched the first episode and I have to say that the director that
 shot this must have had 300 on infinite replay when they were making this.
 The fight scenes although realistic looking in action turn to cartoons when
 everything is slowed down to allow the special effect blood to splatter
 makes it laughable.

 Has anyone watched the series called Rome? Spartacus ain't it. Spartacus
 is the dumbed down blood and guts version for teen boys that has nudity in
 it. I don't think that when they shot this series that the actor knew that
 they were going to make the serious action into gore porn.

 --- In scifino...@yahoogro 
 ups.comhttp://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com,
 Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ... wrote:
 
 
  (standing ovation)
 
  If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
 bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
 
  http://www.youtube. com/watch? 
  v=fQUxw9aUVikhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
 
 
 
 
  To: scifino...@yahoogro 
  ups.comhttp://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com

  From: KeithBJohnson@ ...
  Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 00:09:14 +
  Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Absolutely, I just have an issue with lazy writing on that level unless
 it's intentional. In Hercules and Xena, for example, the anachronistic
 language was intentional and sometimes funny. The god Apollo, for example,
 was portrayed as a magical surfer type, who even said Dude. But
 Spartacus, from what i can tell, is trying to be serious drama, so I just
 can't get past such gaffes.
  I've noticed more and more in recent years that problem in historical
 dramas. I see a lot of them where the characters are speaking idiomatically
 as if they're from modern American. Even if they use the time-appropriate
 words, the way those words are structured into phrases is just off. That
 always irritates me. For example, don't tell me you're giving me a
 well-written drama that takes place in, say, a Puritan village in the 1700s,
 then have a young person ask another How's it going?
  Lazy...
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ ...
  To: scifino...@yahoogro 
  ups.comhttp://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 7:01:06 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
  Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Any good?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  

Re: [scifinoir2] Movie - Geisha Assassin

2010-01-26 Thread Mr. Worf
Exactly.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 Back to stupid suits trying to add people to a film they think will pull in
 key demographics.

 - Original Message -
 From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:48:00 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Movie - Geisha Assassin



 I'm glad that you brought that up. That seems to be a big trend lately and
 I hate it! Just because they are speaking English doesn't mean they need
 white people in a Chinese movie. :( Totally ruins it for me.

 On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Keith Johnson 
 keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 I really liked Who Am I?, but agree with you. His humour gets a bit over
 the top, especially that movie Rumble in the Bronx. I know that Chan's
 thing is humour, but I really wish he'd do more serious stuff. His moves
 lent to pure drama could be amazing. It's why I prefer Jet Li: serious and
 seriously skilled. I was looking forward to their pairing in The Forbidden
 Kingdom, only to be crushed when it turned out to have more humour, and
 they felt the need to add a dopey white kid to the story.  What a waste...


 - Original Message -
 From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
 To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:48:08 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Movie - Geisha Assassin



 I'm not fond of his recent stuff, the Rush Hour movies in particular. I
 loved his stuff from the 70s and 80s, especially his Police Story movies.
 Not much in plot either, but I think of the action in ADD terms, hit points
 for each blow taken/delivered.

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
 bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




 --
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:18:26 -0800
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Movie - Geisha Assassin


  I'm not a fan of his. I enjoyed some of his big stunts, and the stuff he
 did in the 70s, but that's about it.

 The Geisha movie is just a bit cartoony. It isn't a complete movie really.
 Like I said no plot.


 On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Martin Baxter 
 truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote:



 If it's primarily wire fu, then I won't like it. Even when I was young,
 watching the Saturday afternoon kung-fu movie block, I found myself frowning
 at the wire sequences, without really knowing why. My first Jackie Chan
 flick was like manna from the gods. Just saw Operation Condor for the
 umpteenth time, and I still found myself jumping with glee, as if seeing it
 for the first time.


 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
 bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




 --
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 18:43:12 -0800
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Movie - Geisha Assassin


  First off this movie is definitely Saturday matinee faire. Very little
 plot and mostly all action. It took over half of the movie before I learned
 what the main character's name is, but she is apparently out to get revenge
 for her dead father. This required her to attack her father's killer while
 dressed as a geisha. Anyone that has studied geisha would know that being a
 geisha is a martial art within itself.

 She takes on many different fighters from ninja to a monk. Many of the
 fight scenes are run of the mill wire fu scenes, but there are some
 exceptions. One scene in particular drops the wire fu and goes for realism
 in a hand to hand combat scene. Very nice job.

 But alas it is mostly martial art eye candy. :)


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[scifinoir2] Alien Life May Be on Earth: Scientist

2010-01-26 Thread Mr. Worf
Alien Life May Be on Earth: ScientistAre aliens already among us?
http://omnikool.discovery.com/RealMedia/ads/click_lx.ads/news.discovery.com/space/alien-life-microbes-earth.html/211439930/Top3/default/empty.gif/67504861466b74544355344143765a37?x
 Tue Jan 26, 2010 01:59 PM ET | content provided by Raphael G. Satter,
Associated Press
 [image: Alien Life May Be on Earth: Scientist]

According to Paul Davies, an award-winning Arizona State University
physicist, alien life could be lurking right under our noses -- or even in
our noses.
*Getty Images*

*THE GIST:*

   - *Some microbes here on Earth may have originated in space, according to
   one scientist.*
   - *Proving that some life forms on Earth are of alien origin would be
   fraught with difficulties.*


--

For the past 50 years, scientists have scoured the skies for radio signals
from beyond our planet, hoping for some sign of extraterrestrial
lifehttp://news.discovery.com/earth/its-the-end-of-the-world-its-an-alien-invasion-no-its-a-cloud.html.
But one physicist says there's no reason alien life couldn't already be
lurking among us -- or maybe even in us.

Paul Davies, an award-winning Arizona State University physicist known for
his popular science writing said Tuesday that life may have developed on
Earth not once but several times.

Davies said the variant life forms -- most likely tiny microbes -- could
still be hanging around right under our noses -- or even in our noses.

How do we know all life on Earth descended from a single origin? he told a
conference at London's prestigious Royal Society, which serves as Britain's
academy of sciences. We've just scratched the surface of the microbial
world.

The idea that alien micro-organisms could be hiding out here on Earth has
been discussed for a while, according to Jill Tarter, the director of the
U.S. SETI project, which listens for signals from civilizations based around
distant stars.

She said several of the scientists involved in the project were interested
in pursuing the notion, which Davies earlier laid out in a 2007 article
published in *Scientific American* in which he asked: Are aliens among us?

So far, there's no answer. And ever finding one would be fraught with
difficulties, as Davies himself acknowledged.

Unusual organisms abound -- including chemical-eating bacteria which hide
out deep in the ocean and organisms that thrive in boiling-hot springs --
but that doesn't mean they're different life forms entirely.

How weird do they have to be to suggest a second genesis as opposed to just
an obscure branch of the family tree? he said. Davies suggested that the
only way to prove an organism wasn't life as we know it was if it were
built using exotic elements which no other form of life had.
 [image: garbage]
*WATCH VIDEO: Will the real ET be little green men or little green bacteria?
* http://news.discovery.com/videos/space-alien-speculation.html

*Related Links:*
--


   - *Alien Abductions: Idiocy of the Worst
Kind*http://news.discovery.com/space/alien-abductions-idiocy-of-the-worst-kind.html
   - *Man Looks for Aliens, Loses
Job*http://news.discovery.com/space/man-looks-for-aliens-loses-job.html
   - *HowStuffWorks.com:
Aliens*http://science.howstuffworks.com/alien-physiology.htm
   - *Kepler Telescope to Scout for Alien
Worlds*http://news.discovery.com/space/kepler-telescope-alien-life.html


--

Such organisms have yet to be found. Davies also noted that less than 1
percent of all the world's bacteria had been comprehensively studied --
leaving plenty of time to find unusual organisms.

You cannot tell just by looking that a microbe has some radically different
inner chemistry, he said.

Davies' call for alien-hunting scientists to look to their own backyards
came as one of the pioneers of the search for
extraterrestrialhttp://news.discovery.com/space/the-search-for-extraterrestrial-polluters.htmlintelligence
told the conference the job of finding proof of alien life in
outer space may be more difficult than previously thought.

Frank Drake, who conducted the first organized search for alien radio
signals in 1960, said that the Earth -- which used to pump out a loud mess
of radio waves, television signals and other radiation -- has been steadily
getting quieter as its communications technology improves.

Drake cited the switch from analogue to digital
televisionhttp://news.discovery.com/tech/future-tv-wide-angle.html--
which uses a far weaker signal -- and the fact that much more
communications traffic is now relayed by satellites and fiber optic cables,
limiting its leakage into outer space.

Very soon we will become very undetectable, he said. If similar processes
were taking place in other technologically advanced societies, then the
search for them will be much more difficult than we imagined.

But Drake said scientists at SETI were excited by the possibility of using
lasers to send 

[scifinoir2] Liking Human Target

2010-01-26 Thread Keith Johnson
Thanks for the recommendation, Aubrey. I was going to skip the show because of 
work and an overloaded VCR, but I pulled up the recordings I had of the first 
two weeks and had a really good time! Like you said, it's pretty lighthearted. 
You never go too far into fear mode because you know the principals and their 
clients will all make it out safely. But it's a kick, with just enough drama 
and good acting to be engaging, and really good action to boot. I like that 
Chance sometimes really has to work in a fight: no quick karate chops for him! 
The lady tonight gave him a hell of a fight, and I was laughing as she was 
throwing roundhouse kicks in heels and that red hooker dress! 
The main three actors are all excellent, and I like the guest stars too. I know 
this show is probably nowhere near as serious as some incarnations of the 
comic, maybe resembling in name only, but still fun. It reminds me of the 
breezy, action-packed shows of old like Eye Spy, The Avengers, or The Man 
from U.N.C.L.E, or modern far like Burn Notice. 
Too bad it's on Fox. Like I said recently, all the best shows seem to be on 
cable, so I gotta wonder how long the network will let it go if it doesn't do 
killer ratings. 


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From: Aubrey Leatherwood aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 9:38:37 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Was that Danny Glover? 






Warning... It's... *fluffy* but I enjoyed the action, the auxiliary characters 
(my fav is Guerrero, of course, but we've had many conversations about Jackie 
Earle Haley's awesomeness on this loop and the character really suits him) and 
Chance has the right amount of low-brow Bond-esque moxy. Plus... his Japanese 
*was* good. 

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RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Scorned Lover of Obama Adviser Uses Billboards to Vent

2010-01-26 Thread Tracey de Morsella
I do not think it should be put all on him. But making it like she stole him so 
she got what she deserved doesn’t sound quite right.  I agree about the dirty 
laundry part.  That’s just foul and makes her look Justas bad as him, worse 
even, because now we all think she is stark raving mad.  If you are going to 
judge her, I think it should be airing the dirty laundry, not for stealing 
another woman’s man, because it sound like he was her man

 

From: Keith Johnson [mailto:keithbjohn...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 8:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Scorned Lover of Obama Adviser Uses Billboards to 
Vent

 

It makes everyone look bad when you put your stuff out here like this. Settle 
this stuff privately as possible and move on. Too many people nowadays feel 
they have to shout I was wronged! to the world at large, when women and men 
every day get wronged by someone they trusted. And again, I'm not sure how much 
of this was all him being the lying manipulator, so Imma hold judgement putting 
it all on him.

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Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Scorned Lover of Obama Adviser Uses Billboards  
to Vent

I'm not saying she should have done what she did particularly because putting 
your business all on front street is embarrassing on her part too, but homeboy 
is hardly a victim. I'm not sure of the children situation but outside of that 
what innocent people? It seems he did her pretty dirty and led her on for a 
long, long time. That mess of a situation is between him her, and I guess his 
wife.  As long as she didn't physically disfigure or seriously injure dude he 
needs to eat that and keep it moving. I don't feel anything for him.
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Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Scorned Lover of Obama Adviser Uses Billboards  
to Vent
Sent: Jan 26, 2010 3:18 PM

Yeah, I get it too.  She doesn't get mad--she gets even.  And if innocent 
people get hurt in the process..well that's too bad.  I have to wonder if she 
would do this if her former lover had not had connections to Obama.  She had to 
know that her action adds a bit of fuel to the republican's destroy Obama by 
any means fire.


   
--- On Tue, 1/26/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: 
Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Scorned 
Lover of Obama Adviser Uses Billboards to Vent To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 1:37 PM I didn't think you were defending her. 
I get it.Weird stuff. Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:48:46 AM GMT -05:00 
US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Scorned Lover of Obama Adviser 
Uses Billboards to Vent   I know it sounded like I was defending her.  
I wasn’t .  I wanted to try to understand what could possess her to go off 

RE: [scifinoir2] Liking Human Target

2010-01-26 Thread Tracey de Morsella
I’m liking it too.   The first episode was a little lightweight, but I like 
where it is going.  I plan to keep tuning in

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Keith Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:10 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Liking Human Target

 






Thanks for the recommendation, Aubrey. I was going to skip the show because of 
work and an overloaded VCR, but I pulled up the recordings I had of the first 
two weeks and had a really good time! Like you said, it's pretty lighthearted. 
You never go too far into fear mode because you know the principals and their 
clients will all make it out safely. But it's a kick, with just enough drama 
and good acting to be engaging, and really good action to boot. I like that 
Chance sometimes really has to work in a fight: no quick karate chops for him! 
The lady tonight gave him a hell of a fight, and I was laughing as she was 
throwing roundhouse kicks in heels and that red hooker dress!
The main three actors are all excellent, and I like the guest stars too. I know 
this show is probably nowhere near as serious as some incarnations of the 
comic, maybe resembling in name only, but still fun. It reminds me of the 
breezy, act ion-packed shows of old like Eye Spy, The Avengers, or The Man 
from U.N.C.L.E, or modern far like Burn Notice.
Too bad it's on Fox. Like I said recently, all the best shows seem to be on 
cable, so I gotta wonder how long the network will let it go if it doesn't do 
killer ratings.


- Original Message -
From: Aubrey Leatherwood aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 9:38:37 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Was that Danny Glover?

  

Warning... It's... *fluffy* but I enjoyed the action, the auxiliary characters 
(my fav is Guerrero, of course, but we've had many conversations about Jackie 
Earle Haley's awesomeness on this loop and the character really suits him) and 
Chance has the right amount of low-brow Bond-esque moxy. Plus... his Japanese 
*was* good.

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People You Know, The Sex They Have
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RE: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish

2010-01-26 Thread Tracey de Morsella
How come you guys never bring up Tamara Dobson (Cleopatra Jones).  She sounds 
like she belongs  in this group

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamara_Dobson

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Keith Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 8:51 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish

 






I was never enamored of Ms. Grier (sacrilege I know!), but poor Lisa Nicole 
Carson did it for me! Too bad she seems to be suffering from serious emotional 
problems. Nola Gaye, yes indeed. And let's not forget Lola Falana and Dianne 
Carroll. Oh--and Sofia Vergara from  Modern Family. Wow, wow, wow!

Halle who?

- Original Message -
From: C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:40:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish

  


I've met and seen folk who look better naked and others who look great in 
clothes...Halle is the latter...Yeah, I know there are some who look great 
bothe ways...I am a school of the full-figured 60's and 70's genre No one 
mentioned Nola Gaye, Lisa Nicole Carson, Pam Grier (who does not need to be 
mentioned along with Raquel or Sophia) and a few other youngsters whom I have 
trouble remembering...Nope, didn't forget Tracey either (wink!)...

Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet
From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie

--- On Tue, 1/26/10, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 2:48 AM

  

--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ... wrote:  
 Rather than Berry, I humbly suggest looking up any movie with Selma Hayek in 
it--the dancing scene in that vampire movie alone is worth the price of ten 
shots of Berry's nekkid chest--this despite Hayek keeping her clothes on! Or 
anything that features Sanaa Lathan, she of the incredibly cute smile and 
dreamy eyes that just suck one in. Or anything with Gabrielle Union, face as 
pretty and perfect as a living doll's. Nia Long in Love Jones is just a treat 
to look at too --and it's a good movie to boot.  

I see you and raise you:





~rave!





  
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish

2010-01-26 Thread Mr. Worf
She was nice but she didn't float my boat when I was a kid. It was nice
seeing her on Buck Rogers though.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Tracey de Morsella 
tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote:



  How come you guys never bring up Tamara Dobson (Cleopatra Jones).  She
 sounds like she belongs  in this group

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamara_Dobson



 *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Keith Johnson
 *Sent:* Tuesday, January 26, 2010 8:51 PM
 *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish






  I was never enamored of Ms. Grier (sacrilege I know!), but poor Lisa
 Nicole Carson did it for me! Too bad she seems to be suffering from serious
 emotional problems. Nola Gaye, yes indeed. And let's not forget Lola Falana
 and Dianne Carroll. Oh--and Sofia Vergara from  Modern Family. Wow, wow,
 wow!

 Halle who?

 - Original Message -
 From: C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:40:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish



 I've met and seen folk who look better naked and others who look great in
 clothes...Halle is the latter...Yeah, I know there are some who look great
 bothe ways...I am a school of the full-figured 60's and 70's genre No one
 mentioned Nola Gaye, Lisa Nicole Carson, Pam Grier (who does not need to be
 mentioned along with Raquel or Sophia) and a few other youngsters whom I
 have trouble remembering...Nope, didn't forget Tracey either (wink!)...

 Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet
 From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie

 --- On *Tue, 1/26/10, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com* wrote:


 From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re:Swordfish
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 2:48 AM



 --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ...
 wrote:   Rather than Berry, I humbly suggest looking up any movie with
 Selma Hayek in it--the dancing scene in that vampire movie alone is worth
 the price of ten shots of Berry's nekkid chest--this despite Hayek keeping
 her clothes on! Or anything that features Sanaa Lathan, she of the
 incredibly cute smile and dreamy eyes that just suck one in. Or anything
 with Gabrielle Union, face as pretty and perfect as a living doll's. Nia
 Long in Love Jones is just a treat to look at too --and it's a good movie
 to boot. 

 I see you and raise you:



   ~rave!










 




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