Re: CS and herb teas
>Hi list, > I have a question for the list. I would like to have some feed back >with ideas, or if anyone has tried this, let me know. > Would it be possible to make CS using an herb tea combination >instead of distilled water? If you did this would the silver bond to >the ingredients of the tea to make something good or bad? > There are several formulas which including CS might improve the >effects, plus you should be able to store the teas for a long time >with CS as bacteria would not grow in it! > I know I can always just add the CS to a very strong tea base, and >this may be what I do, but I was just wondering what might happen if >you used an herb tea to "cook" your CS in??? > Give me your thoughts! > Jim Einert, N.D. Give it a try and see what happens with two glasses of milk. Put CS in one and nothing in the other and see if the one with CS lasts longer. Then try it with the tea-CS. Also you'll probally have to lower the m-amps when making it with Tea because the Tea will be additives to the distilled water causing it to become more conductive. Also it would probally be better to make the tea first then the CS from the tea. If my theory is right then if you have CS and boil it then it's possable to change the ionic properties or charge of the CS. The theory is that water is more of a positive charge. When it's boiled it becomes more negitive and turns into steam. Take Care Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Diagram & Instructions on Web Page
Some readers found that my WORD attachment was garbled. This is due to Internet services translating attachments to code, usually uue. Here are the diagram and instructions on a Web page. http://users.aol.com/robwf/cs.htm";>http://users.aol.com/robwf/cs.htm >I was surprised at the large response to my offer of a diagram. This was directed to my adult son. (The dosage instructions are directed to him and his lyme disease. I do not offer medical advice.) >I'm sorry that it is a crude diagram, but I think it will still be helpful. >Good luck and good health. Rob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
correction, bulbs and batteries
Hi list, Please pardon my typo error. Line two should read; "time finding 40 ma( 0.04A) lamps (bulbs). All 40ma lamps are rated for 28.8 volts." Thanks a lot, Bless you Bob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: nutrients
>Jim, > >Unfortunately I have not read these booksbut I find merit in these >concepts. Yet I have seen the killoff of verii and bacteriun from CS in >petri dishes at the University here. That is the reason the Prof's are >helping me. I believe in the body, however, it may react with different >MO. We do find it does kill the TB bacterium in the lungsbut then >again that is in an air culture (in the lungs) and not inside the blood >network system. > >This train of thought appears to be going in a proper direction although >many things also show Herx from the intake of CS. By increase of the >blood Ph and urine Ph we can tell that dead matter is floating around >and being disposed of by the liver. For those only using CS and not Rife >this could place a small wrench in this hypothisis..but maybe not. > >Cisco > >jein...@troi.csw.net wrote: >> HI, just a note, the gram neg rod serratia plymuyhica is more easily destroyed in the body with a more alkaline ph. ph<5.5 and no antibiotic will kill it--this research in med art. once not thought so seriuos and rare in humans, this is being disp[roven. Not as pop as cousin martcesecsn-sp? but that is what i have now sll over sepsis. not making much headway, th gent may be toostong--gentamycin. so i styarted taking bICARB ONCE a day, some diff. we'll see. Pray and remember the body is different everyone's is so postulate and educate but being a clinician who listens to ,pt and gets clues from body is imp. also pt listening to body to rtespond is imp too many sticks no veins left sdo going lomnline-can't tpe either one hand back to bed Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: please take me off your list
>Dear Sirs; >Please take me off the c.s. list for everything other than how the substance >might relate to chronic progressive multiple sclerosis. >Thanks, >Peter Koziol I have some information that you should read on MS and I'll have it posted on my web site in 2-3 days. The address is www.eskimo.com/~reid/. Take Care Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: I have mixed CS differently!
>Does anyone have information on where to send my CS Water to be tested to see >of I am making it properly. I follow the direstions I read from the internet >and all that but would like to know for sure. >Many of my friends have used the CS Water several different ways and been very >pleased with it. One lady said she had a pounding sinus headache and decided >to try the water. She took an eye-dropper full in each nostril and kept her >head tipped back for a few minutes and was very happy to say that her headache >and sinus infection where gone in a little over 15 minutes. You can get the PPM tested at your local water testing company. Also you can test the effectiveness by putting some in milk and nothing in another glass of milk. If the one that you put CS in stays free of microbes then it's working right.. Take Care Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Swollen tonsil after cs
>It's my bet that the Essiac Tea is doing the trick. It is a cleanser, >and the tonsil is part of the lymph system. I believe the Essiac is >causing the toxins and mucus to start flushing so fast that it is >trying to release right out of the tonsil as pus. The CS should be a >benefit to keep any infection at bay, as the pus that will come from >the tonsil is going to be full of bacteria and germs, as well as >toxins. >Just my observation and opinion. >Jim Einert, N.D. OH MAN BE CAREFULL!!! I had a lingual tonsil swell up one time and it caused my heart to stop!!! The lingual tonsil is right behind the toung. The doctor had sent me home earlier because I didn't have any tonsils and said that it was just a bad sore throut. I fould out later some people have 3 and I had two of them removed. I was lucky that I was awake when my heart started flopping around, skipping beats and stopped. The doctor said that it had ruptured and all that bacteria was going into my system. He also said that I was lucky that it did burst because it could have swolen enough to cut off my wind pipe. Take Care Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS and herb teas
In a message dated 98-05-23 10:51:14 EDT, you write: << I have a question for the list. I would like to have some feed back with ideas, or if anyone has tried this, let me know. Would it be possible to make CS using an herb tea combination instead of distilled water? If you did this would the silver bond to the ingredients of the tea to make something good or bad? There are several formulas which including CS might improve the effects, plus you should be able to store the teas for a long time with CS as bacteria would not grow in it! I know I can always just add the CS to a very strong tea base, and this may be what I do, but I was just wondering what might happen if you used an herb tea to "cook" your CS in??? Give me your thoughts! Jim Einert, N.D. >> for what it is worth, the idea sounds interesting but i believe you would has such a hard time trying to get the cs made in the herbal tea that mixing it later will prove to be the best idea. even in the distilled water i buy i sometimes to much contamients to make a clean batch. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS and herb teas
> From: "M. G. Devour" > To:silver-list@eskimo.com > Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 11:03:56 -5 > Subject: Re: CS and herb teas > Priority: normal > Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com Good idea, I hadn't thought of that one! Thanks! Jim > How about using CS as the "water" in which you brew your tea? > > It seems that, with all our usual concern over starting with pure > water, making CS in something as complex as an herbal tea would be a > total unknown. > > Doing it the other way around, making the CS and then "tossing a tea > bag into it" might be more workable? > > As to any possible results, I have no comment! > > Mike D. > > On 23 May 98 at 9:52, Jim wrote: > > > Hi list, > > I have a question for the list. I would like to have some feed back > > > > with ideas, or if anyone has tried this, let me know. > > Would it be possible to make CS using an herb tea combination > > instead of distilled water? If you did this would the silver bond to > > the ingredients of the tea to make something good or bad? > > There are several formulas which including CS might improve the > > effects, plus you should be able to store the teas for a long time > > with CS as bacteria would not grow in it! > > I know I can always just add the CS to a very strong tea base, and > > this may be what I do, but I was just wondering what might happen if > > you used an herb tea to "cook" your CS in??? > > Give me your thoughts! > > Jim Einert, N.D. > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] > [mdev...@mail.id.net ] > [Speaking only for myself... ] > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: nutrients
> Jim, > > This Ph tester requires 3 cc's of blood to workso we dont get a lot > of daily volunteersbut it is effective.I will ask the > missionaries if they can arrange a test group to deal with the coffee > thingproblem is gettin the coffeeHARwe are not in the real > worldno 7-11's anywhere to be foundas Stan Truman will discover > in two months when he comes to visit.experiencewhat a test of > reality.HAR! So the learning will come as we share the life and > times...eh...things are never as one sees them in print. > Cisco, Too much blood for me! I only take a couple of drops at a time, so that wouldn't help. Where do I send the coffee, maybe I can send you a couple of cans or bags of coffee from time to time to help in doing the coffee enemas. I have access to a Sams Club where I could buy it in bulk. Of course the real expense would be shipping! Let me know, I'll see if I can afford to send you some. > I will find away to drag you to Chuukyou will love it...this is > where the Bekini Atol is and the US govt repopulated the place to see if > life would sustain after an Atom Bomb Test!.with Rife and CS it > doesHAR!yer bunk will be refitted as help and money allowsif > not ya get to sleep on the deck! > Don't hold your breath! With a wife and 3 kids, it makes it hard to pickup and go on an expedition to the outer reaches of the world! > We will continue with all our exchanges.they mean a lot to me as > always from a different list.thanks Jimreally! > Me too Cisco. I think we have some things to offer each other and this list, and as I have said before, together we all can make a difference, and we can all learn from each other together! Take care! Jim > Gods Speed and Fair Winds, > > Cisco > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS and herb teas
How about using CS as the "water" in which you brew your tea? It seems that, with all our usual concern over starting with pure water, making CS in something as complex as an herbal tea would be a total unknown. Doing it the other way around, making the CS and then "tossing a tea bag into it" might be more workable? As to any possible results, I have no comment! Mike D. On 23 May 98 at 9:52, Jim wrote: > Hi list, > I have a question for the list. I would like to have some feed back > > with ideas, or if anyone has tried this, let me know. > Would it be possible to make CS using an herb tea combination > instead of distilled water? If you did this would the silver bond to > the ingredients of the tea to make something good or bad? > There are several formulas which including CS might improve the > effects, plus you should be able to store the teas for a long time > with CS as bacteria would not grow in it! > I know I can always just add the CS to a very strong tea base, and > this may be what I do, but I was just wondering what might happen if > you used an herb tea to "cook" your CS in??? > Give me your thoughts! > Jim Einert, N.D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: nutrients
Jim, This Ph tester requires 3 cc's of blood to workso we dont get a lot of daily volunteersbut it is effective.I will ask the missionaries if they can arrange a test group to deal with the coffee thingproblem is gettin the coffeeHARwe are not in the real worldno 7-11's anywhere to be foundas Stan Truman will discover in two months when he comes to visit.experiencewhat a test of reality.HAR! So the learning will come as we share the life and times...eh...things are never as one sees them in print. I will find away to drag you to Chuukyou will love it...this is where the Bekini Atol is and the US govt repopulated the place to see if life would sustain after an Atom Bomb Test!.with Rife and CS it doesHAR!yer bunk will be refitted as help and money allowsif not ya get to sleep on the deck! We will continue with all our exchanges.they mean a lot to me as always from a different list.thanks Jimreally! Gods Speed and Fair Winds, Cisco Cisco jein...@troi.csw.net wrote: > > > Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 13:43:07 -0700 > > From: Cisco > > To:silver-list@eskimo.com > > Subject: Re: nutrients > > Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > Jim, > > > > One thing we have varified is the blood does go Acid in its Ph when a > > massive Herxheimer occurs. This is espically noticable under Rife > > treatments but has been varified via one of those little Japanese Ph > > testers we got for trial. We noted the swing began and could be timed at > > two hours after treatment of Rife and 4 hours after large ingestion of > > CS (2 ounces). This prompted us to look into manner in which we could > > quickly clear the system to help allow the liver to detoxify. Thus the > > ingestion of Papaya and large amounts of distilled water. This greatly > > improved the Ph in a matter of a few hours whereas the untreated Herx > > reactions could and did last upwards of 12 hours before noticablle swing > > in Ph occured. > > > Cisco, > This is very interesting. And it makes sense that the blood would go > acid in a herxheimer. Also, I would be interested to learn about the > Japanese pH tester. Does it test blood pH from a drop of blood? (I > assume it does!) > One thing you might try to flush the system better in a herxheimer > is a coffee enema. Brew a quart of coffee (use the caffine kind) and > put in an enema bag at body temp. Have them take the bag in and lay > first on right side then on left turning every so often for at least > 15 minutes. Then they expel the coffee. This opens the liver up and > lets it flush out the toxins. If a person has trouble holding the 15 > min. you might try giving them a regular enema first to clean out the > bowel. This will help them hold the coffee longer. Also, make sure > they get the enema tub into the bowel about 18 to 24 inches so the > coffee gets to the liver. If you try this, I think you will see a > great improvement in releaf of the herxheimer, plus the person will > get rid of a lot more toxins and will feel better much quicker! > > > We unfortunately do not and can not offer a IV Bicarb to the patient if > > Massive Herx happens by over exposure to Rife so we must be very careful > > of exposures. I get very concerned with the PPM values and the amounts > > of Silver I hear people are ingesting. The levels we utilize seem low > > when compared to many I have read and heard about on various lists. We > > utilize a tablespoon to two tablespoons daily and our measurements show > > somewhere in the neighborhood of 7-10 PPM. I would not suggest the > > 100PPM I have seen people discussbut then I can only speak for > > myself and the tests we do as a team. Those who feel it is safe to do > > may do as they please but even with CS I feel there are threshholds we > > have yet to have time to study. > > > Again, use the coffee enema, and you may be able to give a greater > exposure of rife or more CS. Go slow with any experiments in doing > this. > > > The Ph in the blood appears to react directly to treatment, intake of > > foods, infections, and bacterial influence. In several tests we have > > found the stabilization of the blood Ph within 4 hours on those who had > > Disentary.I have yet to conclude why this is so unless the removal > > of the bacterium from the lower intestine cleared the system to promote > > its own balancing.eh...dunno...it just happend that way. AS we begin > > to compare notes we may be able to corrolate some of the differing > > factors and draw some lines between Bacterial and Verii as to reaction > > of the Blood and Urines Ph values when CS is ingested. If differing > > reactions occur this could offer us some diagnostic tools as well. > > > Yes, I believe that. We don't realize that everything we ingest, as > well as many thing we apply to our skin, will change the overall pH > of the blood and body! > Cisco, ke
CS and herb teas
Hi list, I have a question for the list. I would like to have some feed back with ideas, or if anyone has tried this, let me know. Would it be possible to make CS using an herb tea combination instead of distilled water? If you did this would the silver bond to the ingredients of the tea to make something good or bad? There are several formulas which including CS might improve the effects, plus you should be able to store the teas for a long time with CS as bacteria would not grow in it! I know I can always just add the CS to a very strong tea base, and this may be what I do, but I was just wondering what might happen if you used an herb tea to "cook" your CS in??? Give me your thoughts! Jim Einert, N.D. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: nutrients
> Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 13:43:07 -0700 > From: Cisco > To:silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: nutrients > Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Jim, > > One thing we have varified is the blood does go Acid in its Ph when a > massive Herxheimer occurs. This is espically noticable under Rife > treatments but has been varified via one of those little Japanese Ph > testers we got for trial. We noted the swing began and could be timed at > two hours after treatment of Rife and 4 hours after large ingestion of > CS (2 ounces). This prompted us to look into manner in which we could > quickly clear the system to help allow the liver to detoxify. Thus the > ingestion of Papaya and large amounts of distilled water. This greatly > improved the Ph in a matter of a few hours whereas the untreated Herx > reactions could and did last upwards of 12 hours before noticablle swing > in Ph occured. > Cisco, This is very interesting. And it makes sense that the blood would go acid in a herxheimer. Also, I would be interested to learn about the Japanese pH tester. Does it test blood pH from a drop of blood? (I assume it does!) One thing you might try to flush the system better in a herxheimer is a coffee enema. Brew a quart of coffee (use the caffine kind) and put in an enema bag at body temp. Have them take the bag in and lay first on right side then on left turning every so often for at least 15 minutes. Then they expel the coffee. This opens the liver up and lets it flush out the toxins. If a person has trouble holding the 15 min. you might try giving them a regular enema first to clean out the bowel. This will help them hold the coffee longer. Also, make sure they get the enema tub into the bowel about 18 to 24 inches so the coffee gets to the liver. If you try this, I think you will see a great improvement in releaf of the herxheimer, plus the person will get rid of a lot more toxins and will feel better much quicker! > We unfortunately do not and can not offer a IV Bicarb to the patient if > Massive Herx happens by over exposure to Rife so we must be very careful > of exposures. I get very concerned with the PPM values and the amounts > of Silver I hear people are ingesting. The levels we utilize seem low > when compared to many I have read and heard about on various lists. We > utilize a tablespoon to two tablespoons daily and our measurements show > somewhere in the neighborhood of 7-10 PPM. I would not suggest the > 100PPM I have seen people discussbut then I can only speak for > myself and the tests we do as a team. Those who feel it is safe to do > may do as they please but even with CS I feel there are threshholds we > have yet to have time to study. > Again, use the coffee enema, and you may be able to give a greater exposure of rife or more CS. Go slow with any experiments in doing this. > The Ph in the blood appears to react directly to treatment, intake of > foods, infections, and bacterial influence. In several tests we have > found the stabilization of the blood Ph within 4 hours on those who had > Disentary.I have yet to conclude why this is so unless the removal > of the bacterium from the lower intestine cleared the system to promote > its own balancing.eh...dunno...it just happend that way. AS we begin > to compare notes we may be able to corrolate some of the differing > factors and draw some lines between Bacterial and Verii as to reaction > of the Blood and Urines Ph values when CS is ingested. If differing > reactions occur this could offer us some diagnostic tools as well. > Yes, I believe that. We don't realize that everything we ingest, as well as many thing we apply to our skin, will change the overall pH of the blood and body! Cisco, keep up this good research and keep me posted. When I see something on this end of interest, I'll let you know! Take care and God Bless you, my friend! Jim > Cisco > > > > jein...@troi.csw.net wrote: > > > > > Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 14:39:02 -0700 > > > From: Cisco > > > To:silver-list@eskimo.com > > > Subject: Re: nutrients > > > Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > > Jim, > > > > > > Unfortunately I have not read these booksbut I find merit in these > > > concepts. Yet I have seen the killoff of verii and bacteriun from CS in > > > petri dishes at the University here. That is the reason the Prof's are > > > helping me. I believe in the body, however, it may react with different > > > MO. We do find it does kill the TB bacterium in the lungsbut then > > > again that is in an air culture (in the lungs) and not inside the blood > > > network system. > > > > > Hi Cisco, > > One of the things Enderlein says is that when the bacteria reverts > > back to the non-pathogenic form it is too small to see with a light > > microscope. So some of that could be happening here as well. I am > > just learning this stuf
Re: CS nasal spray / hair
Bill, Never thought of that. If you try the CS, let us know if it seems to work on mites. I developed a sensitivity to mites a few years back and itched nearly on a constant basis. I finally had to get rid of all the cloth surfaces in our house including the couch, drapes, carpet and recliners. When it came to the mattress and pillows, we used some of those dustproof/waterproof mattress and pillow cases. It worked and now I don't have any problems at all. It also helps to wash your clothes and bedsheets in really hot water. Vern -Original Message- From: Bill Kingsbury To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, May 22, 1998 1:38 PM Subject: Re: CS nasal spray / hair > Mites very likely rely upon bacteria and/or fungus for the > function of their digestive systems. Use of =sufficient= CS to > destroy this bacteria and/or fungus could thereby destroy the > mite's ability to live and feed in human pores and follicles -- > or pillows, mattresses, etc. > > Does anyone know a practical, proven way to stop mites from living > in pillows, pillow cases, mattresses, etc. (without removing and > boiling them) ? > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS/burns
Works great doesn't it? I wouldn't use anything else. Vern. -Original Message- From: Debbie McDonald To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, May 22, 1998 9:05 AM Subject: Re: CS/burns >Hi All, > Some time back I had read here that someone used CS on sunburn?? I >burned my face last friday(worse than first degree) and it was too late >to call docs so I put some CS in a mister and kept spraying the burned >area,(mouth, nose and surrounding) for two hours+, kept it wet with CS, >any slack and the pain was pretty bad. By bedtime it was not too >uncomfortable to sleep) It never formed blisters and today you cannot >tell(unless you are very close) and the numbness in the lip is going >away. Just wanted to let any know that had missed the original post. Had >I not read it here, I would not have tried this on myself. Thanks >whoever that was. Deb >-- > > > Debbie McDonald > > mailto:lullw...@flash.net > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Melatonin
>Re: Melatonin & "Fountain of Youth" > >I read that old mice who had their old pineal gland transplanted with >pineal glands from young mice became younger. Melatonin is normally >abundant in young children, but decreases upon puberty. Please recognize >that the drug cartel TARGETS the EFFECTIVE healing medicines, not impotent >ones. Go to the following site, scroll down the left menu, and click on >"Canadian Battle For Health Freedom". Also, it's very important to buy a >brand that , or it might do you more harm than good. How can I tell if it is properly processed, which brands are? Joe -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: please take me off your list for everything other than the use of c.s. as it might relate to m.s.
Dear Sirs; Please take me off the c.s. list for everything other than how the substance might relate to chronic progressive multiple sclerosis. Thanks, Peter Koziol -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: URINE PH
Brooks, After spending the last 6 hours looking into thisI dont know if I hold to that thinking. The body actually stops making it and small amounts appear not to have the distressing side effects I was worried about. But when the resultant 75 mg is applied there is a resultant cancer slowing or retardation. We utilize 6 mg for sleep during high pain or uncontrolable spasms, this appears to work much better than the standard medical pharmacy chemicals. As for the system not needing it...we have several chemicals our bodies stop producing and when they are reintroduced some rather good things occur. But for Melatonin select small amounts of less than 2 mg appear in the research I read has little side effect on the body human. The problems we have encountered may simply be as a result of the system being slowed by the Melatonin during a healing progressionthis is not often wise but when brain fever Maleria is involved and the death ratio is very high without Rife, CS and Melatonin I chose the system we use. As we now have had 127 complete remissions from the onset of the Maleria we feel we are moving in a proper direction. IF slight side effects are found they will be much preferable to deathwe have also had no mental retardation as a resullt of our treatments when compared to the Medicos 10-35% brain damage estimates. So I have a basis for disagreeing with you, although your point should be wisely followed by those not needing this type of drug for simular reasons. I never suggest one takes a drug of any type simply because he cant sleepuness it is a disorder and the effects of the disorder can or will become life threatening. Your thoughts on not doing it are a good suggestion and I whole heartedly suggest the same. I however encourage those who feel the need to complicate their systems with multiple herbal and chemical remidies to carefully look at the situation. We have found that many mixtures although simple products alone can become a serious product when mixed. There are several people on this list and other lists who will tell you to concern yourself with the advertisementssimply because it says it is good does not mean a lot.look at thylidimide. Cisco Brooks Bradley wrote: > > Please be advised, I am not recommending that anyone take > melatonin, for any reason. I am suggesting, based upon our limited > evaluations that it seems to hold promise for older persons (60+) as a > sleep aid and neuro-transmitter. Melatonin is a powerful regulator derived > from two precursors; tryptophan, an aminmo acid, and serotonin, another > neurotransmitter. The body actually manufactures the melatonin. (The pineal > gland is the actual source). The maximum production of melatonin occurs in > children around 6 years of age. It falls rather linearly until around 45 > to 50, then more rapidly, until the early sixties (when you are producing > about half as much as you were at 20),then it falls rather rapidly until > the 80s, when in some cases it is unmeasureable. The longevity research > with rats has been quite remarkable. Melatonin is a powerful, > kaleidoscopically influencial hormone and should be regarded with respect. > In my view, persons under 55 years of age should have an important clinical > reason for supplementing their natural melatonin production. Brooks > Bradley 07:19 PM 5/22/98 -0500, you wrote: > > Melatonin has been researched quite thoroughly throughout a large > >portion of the western world..during the past 15 years. The academic > >community (also the legitimate pharmaceutical houses)did not show too much > >interest in this substance until Dr. William Regelson's research was > >published. Shortly after publishing his official findings in the early > >nineties, Regelson collaborated on a book with Walter Pierpaoli ( The > >Melatonin Miracle; Simon & Schuster). While designed for the popular > >press, the work is well founded in proper scientific protocols. I would > >suggest you either purchase this book---or check it out of your local > >library. It will be well worth your time. Our limited, anectdotal > >experimentation (on older members of our staff's extended families60 > >and over) have yielded very satisfactory results, with no detectable side > >effects...whatever.There is one characteristic that one (82 year old > >male) complained abouthe continued to be somewhat sleepy for an hour or > >so after getting up in the morning. Although this was after being able to > >sleep soundly for a continuous 6-7 hours for the first time in over 10 > >years. This substance appears to offer outstanding promise as a non-toxic > >sleep aidespecially for the elderly. Brooks Bradley. 11:48 AM > >5/22/98 -0400, you wrote: > >>I don't know much about melatonin, but I do know that it is outlawed in > >>Canada. Before anyone goes on a tirade about government controlling > >>people's health freedom
Re: nutrients
Jim, One thing we have varified is the blood does go Acid in its Ph when a massive Herxheimer occurs. This is espically noticable under Rife treatments but has been varified via one of those little Japanese Ph testers we got for trial. We noted the swing began and could be timed at two hours after treatment of Rife and 4 hours after large ingestion of CS (2 ounces). This prompted us to look into manner in which we could quickly clear the system to help allow the liver to detoxify. Thus the ingestion of Papaya and large amounts of distilled water. This greatly improved the Ph in a matter of a few hours whereas the untreated Herx reactions could and did last upwards of 12 hours before noticablle swing in Ph occured. We unfortunately do not and can not offer a IV Bicarb to the patient if Massive Herx happens by over exposure to Rife so we must be very careful of exposures. I get very concerned with the PPM values and the amounts of Silver I hear people are ingesting. The levels we utilize seem low when compared to many I have read and heard about on various lists. We utilize a tablespoon to two tablespoons daily and our measurements show somewhere in the neighborhood of 7-10 PPM. I would not suggest the 100PPM I have seen people discussbut then I can only speak for myself and the tests we do as a team. Those who feel it is safe to do may do as they please but even with CS I feel there are threshholds we have yet to have time to study. The Ph in the blood appears to react directly to treatment, intake of foods, infections, and bacterial influence. In several tests we have found the stabilization of the blood Ph within 4 hours on those who had Disentary.I have yet to conclude why this is so unless the removal of the bacterium from the lower intestine cleared the system to promote its own balancing.eh...dunno...it just happend that way. AS we begin to compare notes we may be able to corrolate some of the differing factors and draw some lines between Bacterial and Verii as to reaction of the Blood and Urines Ph values when CS is ingested. If differing reactions occur this could offer us some diagnostic tools as well. Cisco jein...@troi.csw.net wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 14:39:02 -0700 > > From: Cisco > > To:silver-list@eskimo.com > > Subject: Re: nutrients > > Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > Jim, > > > > Unfortunately I have not read these booksbut I find merit in these > > concepts. Yet I have seen the killoff of verii and bacteriun from CS in > > petri dishes at the University here. That is the reason the Prof's are > > helping me. I believe in the body, however, it may react with different > > MO. We do find it does kill the TB bacterium in the lungsbut then > > again that is in an air culture (in the lungs) and not inside the blood > > network system. > > > Hi Cisco, > One of the things Enderlein says is that when the bacteria reverts > back to the non-pathogenic form it is too small to see with a light > microscope. So some of that could be happening here as well. I am > just learning this stuff, so I don't yet have a real good > understanding of it either. > > > This train of thought appears to be going in a proper direction although > > many things also show Herx from the intake of CS. By increase of the > > blood Ph and urine Ph we can tell that dead matter is floating around > > and being disposed of by the liver. For those only using CS and not Rife > > this could place a small wrench in this hypothisis..but maybe not. > > > No, I don't think it does, but I'll have to read up on it more to get > a good understanding of it myself. I know there is debris in any type > of detox, but we must also know that cell debris will float in the > blood too. Keep an open mind (I know you do), and we will try to come > to some kind of conclusion about all this stuff. > > > Cisco > > > > jein...@troi.csw.net wrote: > > > > > > > X-To: > > > > From: "Darryl Jones" > > > > To: > > > > Subject: Re: nutrients > > > > Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 12:33:05 +1000 > > > > Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > > > > > > > Darryl, > > > Sorry, I guess I got over your head with this post. > > > I have been studying dark field microscopy and the ideals of Dr. > > > Enderlein of Germany. Let me see if I can explain this in a nutshell. > > > If you look at live blood under the dark field microscope, you can > > > see the bacteria in the blood. Under a normal balanced chemistry this > > > bacteria is considered a good bacteria. It helps us digest our food, > > > and it helps the cells uptake the food. It also makes vitamins and > > > enzymes. But, when the body chemistry starts to drift away from the > > > normal levels, the bacteria change to a higher form, and the more the > > > chemistry gets off the higher the form. Some of these forms are > > > fungus, cell wall d
