RE: CSRife list
TO SUBSCRIBE from the Rife-list, send a message like this: To: rife-list-requ...@eskimo.com Subject: subscribe Also, there's a great rife web page at: http://www.rt66.com/~rifetech/ Mark Does anyone know of a Royal Raymond Rife web site or list? Or, any info on his work would be appreciated. Thanks, Pat -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRE: CS and X-Ray equiptment during flights
I am planning on a trip to Germany to visit children and grandchildren, I'm planning on bringing my CS with me. I also have some homeopathic remedies that I plan to take. Can the CS go through their X-ray equipment? I've been told that the Homeopathic Remedies shouldn't as it changes their charge. Any info. Would be appreciated. Carol -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLupus
Jim wrote: Anyone know anything about lupus and is CS helpful? I bought this new book, Alternative Medicine, The Definitive Guide-The Burton Goldberg group. So far it is very intriguing. I bought it at Barnes and Nobles, check there, if you need , I can skim all the headings under lupus (there are verry many) and try to summarize for you. Debbie -- Debbie McDonald mailto:lullw...@flash.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSnew CS user
I just started making and using CS with a SOTO bought CS maker. 1. First 8 oz made was with filtered water. I boiled the water, then poured it into a different glass. Put the silver wires into the glass and ran the equipment for 20 minutes. The color was a fairly dark yellow/brown, muddy, and with black flakes. 2. Second try was with 12 oz of distilled water. Did same as 1. above, but ran the equipment for 35 minutes. The water was colorless and clear. 3. Third try was with 8 oz of distilled water. Did same as 1. above, but ran the equipment for 20 minutes. The water was colorless and clear. 4. Forth try was with 8 oz of filtered water again. Did same as 1. above. This time the water was a light gray color with black flakes. After each run, I cleaned the wires as directed. I did not drink no.'s 1 4, but I did drink 2 3. They had a nearly no smell, but did not taste like distilled water. I notice that my mouth and throat felt a very very low numb felling, and swallowing had a slight tight felling. My friend who did the same as me noticed about the same things, however, after drinking the CS we both drank 8 oz of Ozonator water (SOTO equipment), he noticed mild dizziness. I would appreciate anyone's comments and suggestions. Best of Health, Ni. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSprogress report.
I thought if you wanted the cs to go farther into the intestinal track that one was to take with food, specifically roughage, and taking without food allows for quick absorbtion, so it does not go far into the intestines. Help anyone? Jim Doug Sprague wrote: You may want to try taking the silver immediately after eating. better chance of getting absorbed before getting to the lower intestine. Doug I think your right Jim for the same reason that antibotics should be taken one hour before or two hours after a meal. That way it gets absorbed better. Another thing is it was said to hold it under your toung for a certian period of time. Take Care Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CS dosages PPM
Hi, y'all! I would find it really helpful if everyone who mentions a dosage of CS they are taking would be careful to say how much, how often, and what you believe the PPM to be. All at the same time. People should know that there is a big difference between a swallow (1/8 cup??) of 3-5 ppm home-made CS and an equal amount of 30-40ppm CS. Then we have to go back and ask and it gets confusing and fills up the hard drive with quoted messages ad infinitum. And if you dont KNOW the PPM, at least tell us what you THINK the PPM might be. Thanks Grace Peace from Paul Bembower -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS antibiotics ??????
Mike Devour writes: Hello Vincent! You just saw the perfect example of why we *never* spout absolutes in this forum. Well, maybe not *never!* GRIN There is so much diversity of experience among our members that there will be exceptions to nearly every assumption you can make. Mike, What may have come across as pontification re the combination of CS and antibiotics was actually an effort to keep things simple and straightforward for people who may not have a lot of time on their hands to mull over technical matters. CS does not negate any of the usual antibiotics by any of the known routes by which antibiotic work. But, all prescription antibiotics have a plethora of unwanted side effects. Likewise, all the transition metals (even CS) have unwanted effects in high dosages. These unwanted effects can be compounded. I do not have strong biases pro or con CS. But laying cards on the table--pro: It would be wonderful to have a simple natural antibiotic without significant side effects that can be kept forever in the hands of the people and forever out of the hands of the pharmaceutical giants and the FDA. And, con: The existence of CS antedates the sulfa drugs and penicillin. It did nothing that I know of to help in the flu epidemic of 1918, nor did it help in syphilis, TB, and polio. I don't want to confuse issues by discussing antibiotics and antiseptics in the same message, but Ag is very effective as such. I've seen AgNO3 used to irrigate an infected thorasic cavity after coronary bypass surgery. So many of the other antiseptics that have been in common use are very very harmful--ortho phenylphenol which was used in Lysol, not to mention all the quaternary ammonium compounds that are now used with so little concern. There are other everyday chemicals in common use I suspect cause enormous harm, but it would be not be sensible to discuss them without serious proof--not when major industries would be harmed and perhaps unfairly. I would like to see the whole pharmaceutical industry wither away for the simple reason that their patent medicines aren't need or wanted. But can that happen when the profits are so addictive? All of allopathic medicine came together last century for simple purpose of quashing their homeopathic and botanic low-dollar competitors. Ask yourself if it is in the interest of the pharmaceutical giants to cure you at a reasonable price, or keep you paying through the nose forever. Ask yourself if it is in the interest of those who mind the government coffers for you to live forever in perfect health collecting those benefits, or is it in their interest for you to keel over at age 65. I would not be surprised to learn that the government and the pharmaceutical industry are toying around with chronic diseases of the future to protect themselves against the nightmarish eventuality that everyone has learned to wipe out their own cancer, heart disease, c.. On the other hand that would be a perfect excuse to raise the allowable amounts on all the carcinogens in our food, air, and water. Lets keep our fingers crossed that natural antibiotics such as CS and usnea will prove their mettle in the political-economic healthcare wars to come. Vincent Gammill -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRife list
Does anyone know of a Royal Raymond Rife web site or list? Or, any info on his work would be appreciated. Thanks, Pat ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSAddress for the List Webpage
Dear Mike or group, Please remind me what the address of the silver-list web page. If others could stand it, perhaps this ought to be added to the footer with the other group info for quick reference. Is it ready for non-list people to glean from? I've got someone asking questions and would like to send her directly to this page if it's ready, so she can find out more about CS and the CS list. Sincerely, Nancy B. ~ bernt...@altavista.net ch...@altavista.net Home schoolers: CHEAP used books http://www.oikourgos.com/cheap Oikos Interactive Family Journal http://www.oikourgos.com/oikos Lyme Disease info: http://www.oikourgos.com/trisha About Colloidal silver (non-commercial) http://www.freeyellow.com/members2/silver-works ~ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS and pregnancy
My wife is pregnant in he first trimester. Unfortuneatly, she also has a uninary tract infection. The doctors perscribed antibiotics which did not work. She really does not want to go back to get a stronger antibiotic for the fear of what it might do to the baby. Has anyone used CS during pregnancy? Is it safe for the baby and the mother? Also, has anyone had any luck in getting rid of UTIs w/ CS? Thanks Hi! I had my gallbladder removed in 1991 due to Lyme disease. Afterwards I was in a constant UTI situation, due to the change in stool consistancy, and reinfection from the mess, until I 1) learned to use wet baby wipes faithfully, and 2) discovered CS. Now I have no UTIs but still have to use baby wipes, which are very expensive. (They work, though, so it is worth it.) I am of the opinion that CS probably wouldn`t hurt during pregnancy, and wouldn`t hesitate to use it if I were pregnant again. (Fat chance at 46!!) I am the kind of mom who never took aspirin or drank anything stronger than fruit juice or water during pregnancy, not even Coca cola. So, saying I would use CS shows how I believe in its harmlessness. That is my 2 cents worth. Good luck to your wife and new kidlet! (Watch out, babies are a trap, you get stuck with them for 18 years!! I had four... :o) Marsha, soon to be from Vallejo... -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSLupus
Anyone know anything about lupus and is CS helpful? Thanks, Jim -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS and pregnancy
In a message dated 98-10-07 09:13:33 EDT, you write: She really does not want to go back to get a stronger antibiotic for the fear of what it might do to the baby. Don't know about the cs question. Organic cranberry juice is great for UTI's. There is a homeopathic remedy called cantharis that works really well. Blessings, Candice -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSAddress for the List Webpage
Hi Nancy, The list web page is still empty. I've worked on my local copy a little bit, but even that's not very far along. So there's no content for them to glean from it. The best thing we have would be the Intro and Overview FAQ I've so frequently reposted, the most recent version of which also includes Bruce's site in the list of references. That at least includes some gleanings from the list. I'll be working on the site more Real Soon Now (tm). sheepish grin Be well, Mike D. Nancy wrote: Is it ready for non-list people to glean from? I've got someone asking questions and would like to send her directly to this page if it's ready, so she can find out more about CS and the CS list. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CS and pregnancy
My wife is pregnant in he first trimester. Unfortuneatly, she also has a uninary tract infection. The doctors perscribed antibiotics which did not work. She really does not want to go back to get a stronger antibiotic for the fear of what it might do to the baby. Has anyone used CS during pregnancy? Is it safe for the baby and the mother? Also, has anyone had any luck in getting rid of UTIs w/ CS? Thanks -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSWaterOz???
trans...@aol.com wrote: Hi Karen, Donna and others interested: WaterOz is just a brand name of what the company professes to be silver mineral water at 100 ppm. I first heard of it on this list by a fellow named Dameon who has CF and swore that the WaterOz along with diet has helped him tremendously. Hi Yes Dameon was the one who convinced me to buy WaterOz CS. He I both subscribe to an oxygen mailing list and I have gotton so much good info from him. About 2 weeks ago, another person posting on the oxygen list posted that Dameon was in the hospital! I had one up-date since then that he was improving but he had to be on IV antibiotics. I know he hated to do that! I was very distressed to learn this and I do not know any more details right now. I will try to find out more. Anyone else on this list have any up-dates on Dameon? Shelley -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS antibiotics ??????
There was some discussion of whether or not CS antibiotics cancel each other out. Did this question ever get answered definitively? Shelly, CS and antibiotics do not cancel each other out. This is definitive. You can take it to the bank. SNIP Vincent Gammill Sorry to prove you wrong but it did cancel out the effects of the antibotics in me and I had to quit taking the CS. The way that I know is the antibotics that I take give me energy and wake me up plus other things. With out them I sleep all the time. After about 2 weeks I started going down hill and the antibotics wasn't working any more. About 2-3 days after I stopped the CS they started working again. Some people haven't had problems with mixing the two and I think that it makes a difference in the type of antibotics that the person is taking. Myself I was on floxin and zithromax at the time. Take Care Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSReid/herx
Reid, I have just started taking silver now for a week and I feel alot better than I have In a long time. Am also on antibiotics for lyme. Could you explain why the two dont mix? My Dr. told me to take the silver with the antibiotics. Any Info would be greatly appreciated. Thank You,Terri I think it makes a difference in the antibotics that your taking. What one-s are you on and how much? Take Care Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSprogress report.
Can not enoough acidophillus cause fatigue? Donna One things for sure it can cause you to bleed from the intestins. Atleast it did with me when I took it on an empty stomach. Take Care Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS antibiotics ??????
Shelly asked: There was some discussion of whether or not CS antibiotics cancel each other out. Did this question ever get answered definitively? Vincent Gammill replied: CS and antibiotics do not cancel each other out. This is definitive. You can take it to the bank. Reid retorted: Sorry to prove you wrong but it did cancel out the effects of the antibotics in me and I had to quit taking the CS. ... Hello Vincent! You just saw the perfect example of why we *never* spout absolutes in this forum. Well, maybe not *never!* GRIN There is so much diversity of experience among our members that there will be exceptions to nearly every assumption you can make. You wrote: What is the usual metabolic fate of CS? We've got clues that it ultimately clears the body in the feces... How long does it last until it is oxidized to Ag+ ?? And then does it preferentially form an oxide ... , an ionic salt ... , lock on to any endogenous chelating anions or diols c., or is it simply snatched up by albumin or other protein? I don't think we know for sure what chemical form it is in even in the *bottle*, let alone once it gets into our systems. Scary, huh? How would it attack various microorganisms of interest--especially those that are cell wall deficient? There is generally reported some mumo-jumbo about interfering with enzymes involved in oxygen uptake, mumble, mumble... hands waving fitfully in the air, eyes opening wide... G What about the odd oxidation states of Tetrasil (+2 and +4) as the oxide and is it truly antiviral? I've never heard of Tetrasil. As to being antiviral, some anecdotal evidence points that way, some doesn't. I know that viral infections like colds run their normal course in me once they get started, but they *do not* advance to secondary bacterial infections. So the outcome is generally much improved by CS use. You'll frequently hear from folks who say they can stop a cold if they hit it with CS when they *first* note symptoms. Silver salts can be reduced into several allotropes. Is there a difference in physiological effects? I can give a pretty good guess at some of these answers. Is there anyone else out there who'd like to sort it all out? Vince, we're mostly non-professional inquirers here. We've all stumbled on this colloidal silver stuff that, despite the hype and disinformation on both sides, seems to work, sometimes pretty remarkably. We're doing our best to separate fact from fiction and share what we've learned. The marketers have muddied the waters with hype and unfounded claims. On the other side are self appointed debunkers whose fear-mongering does not hold up under even minimal scrutiny. What's left is the accounts of the folks who have had CS work wonders for them. *That* is why I'm here, trying to help unravel the mess. There is no contemporary, organized body of scientific research on CS. The mainstream establishment has mostly ignored it as part of the fringe, and sometimes has acted to suppress the information. There are a few tendrils of modern research that relate to what we know, but they're few and show no signs of being well funded or gaining any significant following in the scientific community. The bulk of the data we have is anecdotal testimony and some minimal experimental trials and analyses. Any insight you wish to share with us is welcome. Bear in mind that some of us have at least workable scientific and technical backgrounds, while others are not so trained. Many have a lot of experience with CS and other alternatives, and have seen what they will do. In any case, you'll recieve a respectful reception if you want to help us figure it all out. The long term goal is understanding, both scientific and clinical. Near term, we want to be sure the best information is availabe to those who need it. Be well, Mike Devour list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS and pregnancy
Don't know about CS and pregnancy but isn't there now a ONE day(one dose treatment) for bladder infections? Shelley -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSproper dosages
Marsha, Yes, I've noticed some improvements.. you're right about the brain fog.. if I have it, I take CS and it's gone almost instantly but of course, it comes back if I don't take it for awhile again. How much CS did you take per day to finally feel 100% again? I feel probably about 90%, the best I've felt in 6 months but I'd still like to improve upon that. I don't want to start taking unsafe doses of CS.. is 3 tablespoons per day insuffiencent for lyme? -Mark Dear Mark, I have read that CS is so easily excreted that there isn`t an unsafe dose. I take 3 big swallows a day when I feel ill, and the illness is soon gone. A big swallow is about 1/4 cup. I have had 8 colds in the last 2 years, none lasted over 3 days. I never got the flu at all. My hubby`s flu was gone in 4 days and he went back to work. THAT made a believer out of him! I have also used CS for 3 eye infections, several UTIs, even a toe infection from an ingrown nail! It even helps my Pug dogs. Lyme is a really tough bug to destroy, I think much larger quantities of CS are necessary to get rid of it once and for all. Donna is still fighting hers, after 2 years. I do believe there are different strains of Borellia, some are tougher than others. I was bitten while living in Arkansas, Donna is in New Jersey. (Hi, Donna!!) I think it may be necessary to revamp our eating and drinking practices while ill. For example, ingesting caffeine tends to blunt the body`s immune system. Who knows what other things do, such as nicotine, and other substances? I`m also a firm believer in vitamin and mineral supplements especially the latter, as the soils are too depleted to put minerals into our foods. (My sister is a type 2 diabetic, insulin dependent. I am 11 years younger, outweigh her by 50 lbs. but my blood is perfect, and blood pressure is normal. I take vanadium and chromium, minerals necessary to insulin production by the pancreas. I take potassium for good BP. No minerals, no good health.) I hope this will help you. Don`t forget the best medicine there is, too: prayer! We have to ask for a blessing before we can get it. (I`m also a firm believer in this, as yesterday my 19 year old son didn`t die, in a car accident at 70 mph on the freeway! Not even a scratch on him! I pray for his safety every day.) Love, (the sincere kind!) Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS antibiotics ??????
Shelley Charlesworth charleswo...@access1.netwrites: To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS antibiotics Date: Tuesday, October 06, 1998 10:32 AM There was some discussion of whether or not CS antibiotics cancel each other out. Did this question ever get answered definitively? Shelly, CS and antibiotics do not cancel each other out. This is definitive. You can take it to the bank. I do have a question or two for all you shinolas out there in Listland. What is the usual metabolic fate of CS? How long does it last until it is oxidized to Ag+ ?? And then does it preferentially form an oxide (thereby making it an excellent redox catalyst), an ionic salt (e.g., to Cl-), a ligand, lock on to any endogenous chelating anions or diols c., or is it simply snatched up by albumin or other protein? Or even by GSH (reduced glutathione)? How would it attack various microorganisms of interest--especially those that are cell wall deficient? What about the odd oxidation states of Tetrasil (+2 and +4) as the oxide and is it truly antiviral? Silver salts can be reduced into several allotropes. Is there a difference in physiological effects? I can give a pretty good guess at some of these answers. Is there anyone else out there who'd like to sort it all out? Vincent Gammill -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net