CSRe: tempers laughter
Hey, Chuck, I just want to say thank you again, and again, and a million times, for the laughs! I decided to start stocking up on your tag lines (nrt! nrt!) so to pass along the joy. This is healing! Best wishes, Taylor Man! I'm beginning to hate summer! Tempers,tempers,tempers! You want flames?Go to usenet! Chuck There is a fine line between courage and foolishness. Too bad it's not a fence. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSWant info: CS and H2O2
Hello everyone: I am looking for a simple, straightforward list of ALL the benefits of drinking both peroxide, and colloidal silver. Can anyone help me here, beyond suggesting going to a library? I'd be very appreciative. I realize that because of FDA considerations, no one (selling or prescribing) actually makes health claims... So would you send me anectdotal information, and refer *direct* sources of information (like studies) that I can read? I am writing you at this point because I have not been able to find any real research, and the kind of anecdotal info I've found (ref's from yahoo.com) seemed like just a few people thought peroxide/CS were the new messiah for every condition on earth...I would really like to find something...a little more grounded. And, I am aware that there are MULTIPLE uses; wanting them spelled out. Where there's (a lot of) smoke, there must be a good fire! As a wilderness skills instructor, I am regularly in dirt, mud, creeks, etc. where my occupational hazards include regular exposure to Giardia (its by-product, Candida), and other forms of parasites, and bacteria, ticks, etc. (One) reason I am wanting to research this is to find whether there are any connections between drinking H2O2 or CS and bacteria/parasite cleansing in the digestive tract, including Giardia (which is a nearly impermeable parasitic cyst until it hatches in the intestine). I am interested both in preventing, AND CURING these. I am looking for less toxic alternatives to currently available (toxic) antiparisitic drugs which I avoid, and less expensive alternatives than herbal formulas, which I have successfully used without side effects...but which *periodically* cost me up to $600. Considering how I deem lab check-ups and regular treatment normal for my profession, I am, needless to say, looking for more (healthy) inexpensive/effective ways to go. Thanks so much. Peter Peter Wolf, M.A. Life-Skills Connecting With the Wisdom of the Earth Perception and Nature Awareness, Tracking and Wilderness Skills Training San Francisco http://www.wolfskills.com pw...@wolfskills.com Tel: 707. 539-WOLF Fax: 707. 538-2866 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS directions??
go to healthy life in broadbeach or mrs flannery's at labrador and as for original colloidal silver its the best and cheap csilver - Original Message - From: Marsha Hallett liah...@pacbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 11:36 AM Subject: Re: CS directions?? Hi Folks, Is there anyone out here on the Gold Coast of Australia in Queensland who makes silver and I can buy from at a reasonable price please? Carmen Dear Carmen, Would you like to just make your own? It is really easy. Email me if you`d like the directions. Marsha in Vallejo, CA USA (who would dearly love to see Australia...) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRiSoTriene
In a message dated 8/1/99 1:58:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dlip...@accesshub.net writes: Wong, Go to http://www.double77.com/products.htm click on product #1. Also see http://www.naturalglo.com/ Keep me posted on your thoughts an if you decide to try it. Dennis Lipter Thanks -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSFDA January deadline for CS toxicity proof
In a message dated 8/4/99 6:05:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, starwo...@primus.com.au writes: Is there anyone out here on the Gold Coast of Australia in Queensland who makes silver and I can buy from at a reasonable price please? Carmen why don't you make your own? wong -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSsilver wire
The 16 ga. silver wire I've been using was given to me by someone who said it was pure. I just ordered some 14 ga. .999 myself and was surprised to find that I couldn't tell the difference between the two in size. So does the 14 ga. actually last much longer than the 16 ga. ? ( A dollar a foot longer!?) According to my ARRL Handbook, 16 gauge is 0.051 diameter and 14 gauge is 0.064. So, no there's not a *lot* of difference in thickness. However, the cross-sectional area goes up by almost 60%, though, so there is a decent difference in volume of metal. It took me a long time to see a change in diameter on my 12 gauge wires before I finally replaced them. At least a couple of years. As to cost, you probably don't need to pay more than a few bucks a foot, so it's not too much difference, costwise, no matter what. Anyway, I noticed that the 14 ga. was somewhat softer than the 16, so I figured the purity must be higher. Softness/hardness can vary depending on the processing of the metal, totally independant of purity. It'll depend on how the wire has been heated and drawn exactly what hardness state it will be left in. Fully annealed, it'll be soft as butter. Drawing, as in pulling it through a die to change its diameter, will harden it. How does one get their silver tested? No jeweler or pawn shop around here could do it. By the way, who came up with the guage numbers getting SMALLER when the wire gets fatter? Good questions! As far as purity is concerned, if you want to make sure of what you have, buy it from a source that will guarantee and document the purity of the material. This includes a lot of chemical and materials supply houses that sell to industry and research. They'll provide an analysis by batch, either routinely or by request. Expect to pay more for the service, though. Otherwise, just making sure the supplier is sending you fine or extra fine silver wire, at least .999 pure, rather than sterling, should be enough if they are at all competent and honest. There is enough difference between pure silver and sterling that the jewelers and metal workers buying the stuff would know the difference and raise hell with that supplier if they couldn't tell the difference between fine and sterling silver! As to wire gauge? Ahh ... ahem ... cough... I don't know. GRIN Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSnew to cs
In a message dated 7/19/99 4:48:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ck...@global2000.net writes: On Mon, 19 Jul 1999 16:06:40 EDT, wong...@aol.com wrote: But 9v transformer tests out from12 to 15 volts and 12 v transformer tests out to 19 volts. I've been using the 9v transformer. I suspect you're measuring the voltage without a load (or very light load) on the power supply? When you're actually drawing current, the voltage should be closer to rated output. Chuck I test the voltage before, during and after and it's always between 12 and 15 volts. I'm following Ivan's protocol. He said it would test out about 12 volts. My CS has always been clear using 9v transformer, 8 oz/3hrs. But when I used 16 oz 5 hrs I get some yellow mucus or scum from the negative wire. It's a streak that runs from the wire to the bottom of the container. The CS is alternately clear and yellow. I don't have any consistency using 16 oz DW. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSMagnets (Was magnetized water)
Is there anyone on the Gold Coast of Australia, that knows how to make a cs generator? I would like to buy one please. Carmen - Original Message - From: Vilik Rapheles vi...@peak.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 02, 1999 10:09 AM Subject: CSMagnets (Was magnetized water) John, EXCELLENT post! Thank you! Now...question...I am sleeping temporarily on a Nikken mattress of alternating north and south magnets. Nikken is a huge company...a leader in magnet therapy, and they totally discount the idea that anything should be all one pole. They have probably millions of happy customers. I have heard amazing stories about their products. Their products are ALL bipolar. Sooocomments? ~^^V^^~ At 04:03 PM 8/1/99 -0400, you wrote: OK, Art, you made me do it--I found my biomagnetics books (the house is a mess with y2k stuff right now) and found the answer in BIOMAGNETIC HANDBOOK by William H. Philpott, M.D. Dr. Philpott is one of the pioneers in this field and one you will always see quoted in later books. I am quoting him now: All magnets have two poles--north pole and south pole. Electrons from the north pole spin left (counterclockwise) generating negative magnetic energy while electrons from the south pole spin rght (clockwise) genrating positive magnetic energy. This discovery has been reported and confirmed by sophisticated space-age instruments which measure magnetic energy. In this publication [referring to BIOMAGNETIC HANDBOOK] north pole magnetic energy will be referred to as negative (-) magnetic field energy and south pole energy will be referred to as positive (+) magnetic field energy. The terminology negative and positive has no reference to good and bad but rather relates to the laws of electricity and physics. Again, remember that negative and positive polarities have separate and opposite effects on biological systems! Not all magnets are created equal and persons working with magnets must be aware of the differences. There are unipole magnets and bipolar magnets. Unipole magnets are polarized with negative energy on one side of the magnet and positive energy on the opposite side. Researchers and health professionals applying magnetic energy to biological systems must always use unipole magnets so negative or positive energy can be applied selectively. When both positive and negative energy are present on the same side of a magnet, the magnet is referred to as bipolar. Bipolar magnets, popular in industrial use, are NOT TO BE APPLIED TO BIOLOGICAL SYSTEMS [caps mine] since both poles are present and cannot be separated. For example, it would be unwise to grab the decorative magnet from the refrigerator door and use it for therapy since it is bipolar to enhance sticking quality. If bipolar magnets are applied to the humahn body, positive pole energy would be absorbed along with negative. Horseshoe magnets are not suitable for biomagnetics either since the two poles are physically too close together to allow either pole to be applied individually. Remember, since negative and positive magnetic energies have opposite effects on biological systems, only UNIPOLE magnets are appropriate for application in biolmagnetic therapy described in this book. DIFFERENCES IN POLARITY IDENTIFICATON: (This is what you asked about, Art, and what we have been discussing the last few days) Another warning! In purchasing magnets, the reader must be aware and cautioned that the poles of magnets are identified by TWO OPPOSITE SYSTEMS [caps mine]. (l) traditional method of identification used in industry and navigation (opposite of the earth's polarity) and (2) physics identification of the magnetic poles corresponding with the earth's magnetic poles. Biophysics recognizes and equates cellular and tissue polarity with the earth's magnetic poles. Another caution, some authors (especially foreign authors) and medical practitioners have continued to use the traditional industrial method of identifying polarities. It is, therefore, of utmost importance before getting involved in biomagnetics that the reader understand the Law of Polarity and establish the true identity of the poles (corresponding to earth's poles) of the magnets to be used. The Law of Polarity: Opposites attract while like forces repel. METHODS FOR CORRECTLY IDENTIFYING MAGNETIC POLARITIES: Compass method: When the compass needle (north-seeking) marked N points to the magnet it indicates the negative (north) pole side of the magnet (opposites attract). Magnet method: Use a correctly identified and marked magnet to determine the poles of an unmarked magnet. Simply try stacking the magnets and remember the Law of Polarity--opposite polarities attract and like forces repel. Another simple method to determine polarity is to suspend a unipole magnet on edge from a string. Keep in mind, the Earth is a magnet
Re: CSRobert's comments re Susan's color questions
Hi Ya'all, James has raised a valid question. I have in the past sent samples to the Univ. of Mo. at Rolla. The large size particles they could check on an S.E.M., but the small size wouldn't register. I believe they have a tunneling electron microscope that is supposed to be able to read very small particles. When I get a contact I will invest the bucks to answer James' question as to whast particle size my EZCS gen makes. At my age its only money and this is fun. I have no ax to grind or as our English friends would say I have no wheel barrel to push. As apoint of interset I had my grandson set up my e-mail so that things addressed to me are filteresd into a separate file which I read first. Then I switch over to the free-for-all of the silver list. Robert I tend to wonder what his particles size is, if it isn't changing color. James Allison -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSdowsing your silver
Wong is right. James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: James Houston-McMillan [SMTP:jho...@iafrica.com] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 4:21 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSdowsing your silver Try http://www.crystalinks.com/dowsing.html James wong...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 8/3/99 7:59:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mdud...@execonn.com writes: crystalinks.com/dowsing.html . Marshal can't access website. wong -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSdowsing your silver
You must have a link out somewhere, I have no problem with it at all. Here is a traceroute so you can see where you are losing it: Tracing route to crystalinks.com [199.231.146.177] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms ip065.execonn.esper.com [216.111.30.65] 238 ms68 ms46 ms ts40.esper.com [208.160.118.16] 343 ms41 ms69 ms rtr1u.esper.com [208.160.118.1] 452 ms44 ms45 ms 192.168.101.1 545 ms51 ms50 ms rtr2e.esper.com [216.111.16.2] 664 ms64 ms66 ms 205.171.46.221 768 ms64 ms67 ms atl-core-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.21.45] 873 ms79 ms75 ms wdc-core-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.5.242] 973 ms82 ms86 ms wdc-edge-05.inet.qwest.net [205.171.24.86] 1099 ms74 ms75 ms mae-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.4.194] 11 115 ms 151 ms 173 ms mwe.eni.net [198.32.187.24] 12 134 ms 104 ms93 ms H11-0-0.atl100.gw.eni.net [155.229.120.129] 13 101 ms 133 ms 113 ms 155.229.120.134 14 121 ms 101 ms 107 ms 199.250.214.226 15 127 ms 117 ms 125 ms 199.231.136.2 16 112 ms 113 ms 118 ms crystalinks.com [199.231.146.177] Trace complete. Marshall James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: Wong is right. James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: James Houston-McMillan [SMTP:jho...@iafrica.com] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 4:21 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSdowsing your silver Try http://www.crystalinks.com/dowsing.html James wong...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 8/3/99 7:59:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mdud...@execonn.com writes: crystalinks.com/dowsing.html . Marshal can't access website. wong -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSsilver wire
I believe your husband is incorrect. Marshall Daniel and Karen Croom wrote: Mike, Good answers! About the last question on guage- I asked my husband (which I should have done to start with since he's so smart) and he said that it's not really 14 or 16, but .16 and .14 when you're talking guages. It's the same with shotguns. Karen -- From: M. G. Devour mdev...@mail.id.net To: -l...@eskimo.com silver Subject: Re: CSsilver wire Date: Thursday, August 05, 1999 3:50 AM The 16 ga. silver wire I've been using was given to me by someone who said it was pure. I just ordered some 14 ga. .999 myself and was surprised to find that I couldn't tell the difference between the two in size. So does the 14 ga. actually last much longer than the 16 ga. ? ( A dollar a foot longer!?) According to my ARRL Handbook, 16 gauge is 0.051 diameter and 14 gauge is 0.064. So, no there's not a *lot* of difference in thickness. However, the cross-sectional area goes up by almost 60%, though, so there is a decent difference in volume of metal. It took me a long time to see a change in diameter on my 12 gauge wires before I finally replaced them. At least a couple of years. As to cost, you probably don't need to pay more than a few bucks a foot, so it's not too much difference, costwise, no matter what. Anyway, I noticed that the 14 ga. was somewhat softer than the 16, so I figured the purity must be higher. Softness/hardness can vary depending on the processing of the metal, totally independant of purity. It'll depend on how the wire has been heated and drawn exactly what hardness state it will be left in. Fully annealed, it'll be soft as butter. Drawing, as in pulling it through a die to change its diameter, will harden it. How does one get their silver tested? No jeweler or pawn shop around here could do it. By the way, who came up with the guage numbers getting SMALLER when the wire gets fatter? Good questions! As far as purity is concerned, if you want to make sure of what you have, buy it from a source that will guarantee and document the purity of the material. This includes a lot of chemical and materials supply houses that sell to industry and research. They'll provide an analysis by batch, either routinely or by request. Expect to pay more for the service, though. Otherwise, just making sure the supplier is sending you fine or extra fine silver wire, at least .999 pure, rather than sterling, should be enough if they are at all competent and honest. There is enough difference between pure silver and sterling that the jewelers and metal workers buying the stuff would know the difference and raise hell with that supplier if they couldn't tell the difference between fine and sterling silver! As to wire gauge? Ahh ... ahem ... cough... I don't know. GRIN Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSnew to cs
On Thu, 5 Aug 1999 05:29:22 EDT, wong...@aol.com wrote: My CS has always been clear using 9v transformer, 8 oz/3hrs. But when I used 16 oz 5 hrs I get some yellow mucus or scum from the negative wire. It's a streak that runs from the wire to the bottom of the container. The CS is alternately clear and yellow. I don't have any consistency using 16 oz DW. Patient to Doctor: Doc, it hurts when I do this . Doctor to patient: Well, STOP DOING THAT!! 5 hours sounds long to me, cut it in half. If still NG, cut it in half again.. Chuck Time is supposed to keep everything from happening at once.. it's not working -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Current regulator
Hello James, I'll do my best to answer your questions. Over the period of time I was designing our generator, I tried different combinations of voltage, current, silver electrode size, water temperature, water quantity and electrode spacing. I noticed right off that if I used a constant voltage source, the colloid was never consistent. By that I mean it was sometimes yellow, muddy, dark, brown or gray. I noticed that all the previous variables affected the end product. About that time I decided the variables would have to be eliminated to make a consistent colloid. It turned out there were too many variables to juggle. I then thought that perhaps a constant current source would help by not allowing current to rise so rapidly as when using the constant voltage source. I still had occasional problems however. I was still using silver wire. It was about that time I tried using silver with more surface area and that was when the colloid became more consistent. It was obvious to me that lower current density was one of the great secrets to consistency and uniformity. So I began to make it with the same electrode material we now provide with our generators. It is 1/4 wide X 5 long. Wetted depth is about 4 inches. The surface area of our electrodes is about 2.5 times that of 14 Ga. wire. That made a major difference in the end product. It worked quite well but there still seemed to be times when it wasn't as consistent as I thought it should be so I began to experiment with different current settings. After many experiments, I settled on 1 milliampere as being the best compromise. The current density was low enough that I had little fallout and the colloid was the same every time. It would turn yellow overnight every time and I had no longer had any problems with spacing or temperature or timing. So, as you can see I am not an expert but I do have some expertise. I can categorically state from my own experiences that one cannot control a constant voltage source and small gauge silver wires and the spacing consistently enough to make a product as uniform as when using a constant LOW current source and large surface are electrodes. As I state in our web page, running a constant voltage generator is like driving an automobile with the gas pedal stuck to the floorboard. It will run away with you. You end up with large particles. I quote you from the message below. When making colloidal silver, the only time you have to worry about large particle size is when you are letting the process run to long. You know I am right as does anyone who uses constant voltage generators. The current begins to rapidly rise as the silver is deposited in the water. Your voltage, timing, spacing, wetted surface and water temperature all affect the end product. And not to its benefit. I am NOT saying a few batteries and a couple of pieces of silver wire doesn't work. I am saying it doesn't work as well as what I provide. And that's the end of that story. Constant current IS better. SO is larger surface area electrodes. Back to you. Trem t...@silvergen.com - Original Message - From: James Vernon, Allison apothec...@home.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 02, 1999 9:50 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: Current regulator I'm just trying to clarify so that I may understand. You manufacture a colloidal silver generator with a proprietary circuit and you're not an expert? You say that your current regulator limits the current to 1 milliampere. How did you come to the conclusion that 1 milliampere is the best current to use? If I run 3 9volt batteries to silver to pure distilled water for 30 minutes, with the silver spaced 3/4 inches apart and a wetted depth of 3 and a half inches, are you implying that my CS won't be of uniform small particle size with little or no fallout? In my humble opinion, a regulator will only do you good if you have a habit of forgetting the time and letting your process run for to long. When making colloidal silver, the only time you have to worry about large particle size is when you are letting the process run to long. If you know how to tell time, and have a watch or a clock, then you do not need a current regulator. As I stated, the above paragraph is only an opinion, but if it is wrong, then please direct me to an expert who can educate me. Yours in health, James Vernon, Allison -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to:
Re: CSRobert's comments re Susan's color questions
James has raised a valid question. I have in the past sent samples to the Univ. of Mo. at Rolla. The large size particles they could check on an S.E.M., but the small size wouldn't register. Mind you, this is only my opinion, but I would think that the particle size would be smaller, however, this is speculation on my part as I didn't notice what the power used to generate the CS is. Whether or not smaller is better I do not know, I have heard many debates over the issue of size but have never seen any actual scientific evidence or theory to validate the particle size issue, except for the fact that we know larger than the industry standard is definitely NOT better. My wife and I are working on what we consider to be the ultimate colloidal silver FAQ, based on research done from others and ourselves, and if you have anything that will help us, I would love to receive it! The FAQ will be non-commercial and entered into the public domain for dissemination, so any info you have would be going for the public good. Yours in health, James Allison -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSWant info: CS and H2O2
On Wed, 4 Aug 1999 23:05:18 -0800, pw...@wolfskills.com (Peter Wolf) wrote: (One) reason I am wanting to research this is to find whether there are any connections between drinking H2O2 or CS and bacteria/parasite cleansing in the digestive tract, including Giardia (which is a nearly impermeable parasitic cyst until it hatches in the intestine). I am interested both in preventing, AND CURING these. Peter, Welcome to Mad Science 101! In addition to CS, I suggest you do a web search on Hulda Clark and find info on her parasite zapper. Amaze Yourself! Chuck Whales are mammals. Mammals have hair. SHAVE THE WHALES! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRobert's comments re Susan's color questions
Since I have been involved in research on CS for a while, and have done, and contracted to have done several tests, I would appreciate the opportunity to review the faq before you send it out for any inaccuracies we may find. Thanks, Marshall James Vernon, Allison wrote: James has raised a valid question. I have in the past sent samples to the Univ. of Mo. at Rolla. The large size particles they could check on an S.E.M., but the small size wouldn't register. Mind you, this is only my opinion, but I would think that the particle size would be smaller, however, this is speculation on my part as I didn't notice what the power used to generate the CS is. Whether or not smaller is better I do not know, I have heard many debates over the issue of size but have never seen any actual scientific evidence or theory to validate the particle size issue, except for the fact that we know larger than the industry standard is definitely NOT better. My wife and I are working on what we consider to be the ultimate colloidal silver FAQ, based on research done from others and ourselves, and if you have anything that will help us, I would love to receive it! The FAQ will be non-commercial and entered into the public domain for dissemination, so any info you have would be going for the public good. Yours in health, James Allison -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS directions??
Carmen; I do not thik that you realize the expenditure and knowledge that you nedd to make silver. I presume that you are wanting to make silver wire. If that is the intent then the following will give you and idae of what it involved. 1. You need a source of 99.99% silver bullion 2. A furnace that will go to 2000 deg. F. with crucible and tongs to handle molten silver. 3. A mold into which you will pour the molten silver. 4. Scarf the outside of the billet to remove mold impurities. 5. A set of draw dies, and the means of pullng the wire through the dies. This is a difficult and hazzardous operation. It is best left to the professionals. I am familiar with these operations. Robert CARMEN SPENCE wrote: Can I buy the appararatus to make the silver at these shops? thank you very much for sending me the information. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSCandida Infection
Hi, I have had an amazing success with just waterOZ, silver and copper in the fight to erradicate (great word) Candida. I did have a bad die off reaction when I first started, very light headed, and horrible dhiarhea. However, it was well worth it! Sparrow I know this question has probably been asked in the past, so pardon me for repeating it. We just currently found out that my husband has a bad candida infection in his intestines. He is following the WaterOz's protocol for Candida. Will the colloidal silver, zinc, sulfur etc. reach his intestines to kill it off, or is there something else we should be doing? Thanks Margie Bander Database Administration Team 314-694-4947 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRobert's comments re Susan's color questions
Since I have been involved in research on CS for a while, and have done, and contracted to have done several tests, I would appreciate the opportunity to review the faq before you send it out for any inaccuracies we may find. *small chuckle* You were already on my list as one to be asked to proofread :) Also, is it okay to pull from your research efforts? All contributors will be designated as such in the faq. James Allison -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Current regulator
Trem, Sorry but I hve to disagree with you on constant voltage and round wire. All of the variables can be wrapped up in one neat package and eliminated with polarity switching every minute with 1 spacing, #14 high purity silver, 3-1/2 wetted length in 16 oz of DW. In a 28 hour run the max current was 7.2ma. There is no runaway currents in polrity switching. I have attached my pcx file for those who want it. I will supply charts and data if requested. Robert Trem Williams wrote: Constant current It would turn yellow overnight every time and I had no longer had any problems with spacing or temperature or timing. So, as you can see I am not an expert but I do have some expertise. I can categorically state from my own experiences that one cannot control a constant voltage source and small gauge silver wires and the spacing consistently enough to make a product as uniform as when using a constant LOW current source and large surface are electrodes. As I state in our web page, running a constant voltage generator is like driving an automobile with the gas pedal stuck to the floorboard. It will run away with you. You end up with large particles. I quote you from the message below. When making colloidal silver, the only time you have to worry about large particle size is when you are letting the process run to long. You know I am right as does anyone who uses constant voltage generators. The current begins to rapidly rise as the silver is deposited in the water. Your voltage, timing, spacing, wetted surface and water temperature all affect the end product. And not to its benefit. . Constant current IS better. SO is larger surface area electrodes. Back to you. inline: Csgen1.pcx
Re: CSRobert's comments re Susan's color questions
Absolutely, feel quite free to. Marshall James Vernon, Allison wrote: Since I have been involved in research on CS for a while, and have done, and contracted to have done several tests, I would appreciate the opportunity to review the faq before you send it out for any inaccuracies we may find. *small chuckle* You were already on my list as one to be asked to proofread :) Also, is it okay to pull from your research efforts? All contributors will be designated as such in the faq. James Allison -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSEVERYBODY ON LIST PLEASE READ
I just opened this message: ~~~ Subject: Re: CSMagnets (Was magnetized water) Message: Is there anyone on the Gold Coast of Australia, that knows how to make a cs generator? I would like to buy one please. JUST A REMINDER TO US ALL. UNLESS WE *ALL* MAKE THE SUBJECT CONGRUENT WITH THE BODY OF THE MESSAGE, THIS SYSTEM AIN'T AGONNA WORK. IF YOU ARE ON THIS HIGH-FLYING FREE-WHEELING LIST, PLEASE MAKE IT WORKABLE FOR US ALL BY MAKING THE SUJECT LINE FIT THE CONTENT. Thanks from Everybody to Everybody! ~^^V^^~ Carmen - Original Message - From: Vilik Rapheles vi...@peak.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 02, 1999 10:09 AM Subject: CSMagnets (Was magnetized water) ~~ John, EXCELLENT post! Thank you! Now...question...I am sleeping temporarily on a Nikken mattress of alternating north and south magnets. Nikken is a huge company...a leader in magnet therapy, and they totally discount the idea that anything should be all one pole. They have probably millions of happy customers. I have heard amazing stories about their products. Their products are ALL bipolar. Sooocomments? ~^^V^^~ At 04:03 PM 8/1/99 -0400, you wrote: OK, Art, you made me do it--I found my biomagnetics books (the house is a mess with y2k stuff right now) and found the answer in BIOMAGNETIC HANDBOOK by William H. Philpott, M.D. Dr. Philpott is one of the pioneers in this field and one you will always see quoted in later books. I am quoting him now: All magnets have two poles--north pole and south pole. Electrons from the north pole spin left (counterclockwise) generating negative magnetic energy while electrons from the south pole spin rght (clockwise) genrating positive magnetic energy. This discovery has been reported and confirmed by sophisticated space-age instruments which measure magnetic energy. In this publication [referring to BIOMAGNETIC HANDBOOK] north pole magnetic energy will be referred to as negative (-) magnetic field energy and south pole energy will be referred to as positive (+) magnetic field energy. The terminology negative and positive has no reference to good and bad but rather relates to the laws of electricity and physics. Again, remember that negative and positive polarities have separate and opposite effects on biological systems! Not all magnets are created equal and persons working with magnets must be aware of the differences. There are unipole magnets and bipolar magnets. Unipole magnets are polarized with negative energy on one side of the magnet and positive energy on the opposite side. Researchers and health professionals applying magnetic energy to biological systems must always use unipole magnets so negative or positive energy can be applied selectively. When both positive and negative energy are present on the same side of a magnet, the magnet is referred to as bipolar. Bipolar magnets, popular in industrial use, are NOT TO BE APPLIED TO BIOLOGICAL SYSTEMS [caps mine] since both poles are present and cannot be separated. For example, it would be unwise to grab the decorative magnet from the refrigerator door and use it for therapy since it is bipolar to enhance sticking quality. If bipolar magnets are applied to the humahn body, positive pole energy would be absorbed along with negative. Horseshoe magnets are not suitable for biomagnetics either since the two poles are physically too close together to allow either pole to be applied individually. Remember, since negative and positive magnetic energies have opposite effects on biological systems, only UNIPOLE magnets are appropriate for application in biolmagnetic therapy described in this book. DIFFERENCES IN POLARITY IDENTIFICATON: (This is what you asked about, Art, and what we have been discussing the last few days) Another warning! In purchasing magnets, the reader must be aware and cautioned that the poles of magnets are identified by TWO OPPOSITE SYSTEMS [caps mine]. (l) traditional method of identification used in industry and navigation (opposite of the earth's polarity) and (2) physics identification of the magnetic poles corresponding with the earth's magnetic poles. Biophysics recognizes and equates cellular and tissue polarity with the earth's magnetic poles. Another caution, some authors (especially foreign authors) and medical practitioners have continued to use the traditional industrial method of identifying polarities. It is, therefore, of utmost importance before getting involved in biomagnetics that the reader understand the Law of Polarity and establish the true identity of the poles (corresponding to earth's poles) of the magnets to be used. The Law of Polarity: Opposites attract while like forces repel. METHODS FOR CORRECTLY IDENTIFYING MAGNETIC POLARITIES: Compass method: When the compass needle (north-seeking) marked N points to the magnet it indicates the negative
CSRe: Want info CS H202
Peter wrote: I am looking for a simple, straightforward list of ALL the benefits of drinking both peroxide, and colloidal silver. Can anyone help me here, beyond suggesting going to a library? I'd be very appreciative. I hope anyone who answers will post instead of email because I would be very interested in this too. Thanks. John -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSWire gauge
Hey! Good answers! About the last question on guage- I asked my husband (which I should have done to start with since he's so smart) and he said that it's not really 14 or 16, but .16 and .14 when you're talking guages. It's the same with shotguns. Actually, that wouldn't explain it. In that form, .16 is still larger than .14. Actually, I believe it had to do with how many wires of a certain size it would take to completely fill a 1 conduit. Therefore the larger the wire the smaller the gauge, i.e. it would take more 22 gauge wires to fill a conduit than 6 gauge wires. You could only get 6 of the big ones in there or 22 of the little fellers. Jim -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRepeat posts
The following post was on the list more than a week ago, and here it is again. I see a lot of repeat posts. If you want to cut back on so much space and posts to wade through, why not eliminate these repeats? John Monday, July 26, 1999 10:57 PM Subject: CSpH Can someone give me the source forAlkalife mineral drops and Coral calcium? My wife has osteoporosis and it I think this might help her. Thanks. John -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSEVERYBODY ON LIST PLEASE READ
V, The person who wrote the request re a CS, maker, Carmen, is new and struggling with quite a debilitating and serious illness. I understand that we are all trying to remember to change the subject heading, and I think that is a good thing, but I found your reminder uncharacteristically harsh from you. All CAPS is like shouting, and I'm asking us to remember to not shout at one another, and to remember that some are new and not feeling well to boot. Lets be gentle in the healing arena. Thanks, Taylor JUST A REMINDER TO US ALL. UNLESS WE *ALL* MAKE THE SUBJECT CONGRUENT WITH THE BODY OF THE MESSAGE, THIS SYSTEM AIN'T AGONNA WORK. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRe: Best CS book to buy?????
Hello again. I am a TOTAL newbie to CS, therefore I asked for what book any of you not-so-newbies would recommend I havn't seen any info about on books on CS...is that because no one has a book to recommend? I REALLY would appreciate some guidance--simply saying to search the web is not helpful thanks! Becky On Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:43:50 -0400 pbp...@juno.com writes: Hi! I've been on the 'net and done the searches for colloidal silverprinted off a lot. Would you good folks please give me your opinion (and why, too) of the ONE best book for me to invest in concerening CS. Much appreciation! Becky ___ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Best CS book to buy?????
On Thu, 5 Aug 1999 14:53:40 -0400, Rebecca C Mahoney pbp...@juno.com wrote: Hello again. I am a TOTAL newbie to CS, therefore I asked for what book any of you not-so-newbies would recommend I havn't seen any info about on books on CS...is that because no one has a book to recommend? I REALLY would appreciate some guidance--simply saying to search the web is not helpful thanks! Becky Sorry Becky, but search the web is extremely good advise. One can't stay a newbie forever and expect to be spoon fed what you can do for yourself. For example, the key words colloidal silver entered at the worlds biggest bookseller, Amazon.com yielded the following: Your Book Search Results for: the keywords include colloidal silver 3 items are shown below. Colloidal Silver : The Natural Antibiotic Alternative Zane Baranowski / Paperback / Published 1995 Our Price: $3.50 + $2.85 special surcharge (Special Order) The Wonders of Colloidal Silver Dhyana L. Coburn, Patrick D. Dignan / Plastic Comb / Published 1997 Our Price: $21.95 (Special Order) Silver and Other Colloidal Minerals Alexander Schauss It took longer to post this than it did to get the info. Chuck Red meat isn't bad for you. Fuzzy blue-green meat is bad for you. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Best CS book to buy?????
Charles King wrote: On Thu, 5 Aug 1999 14:53:40 -0400, Rebecca C Mahoney pbp...@juno.com wrote: Colloidal Silver : The Natural Antibiotic Alternative Zane Baranowski / Paperback / Published 1995 Our Price: $3.50 + $2.85 special surcharge (Special Order) The Wonders of Colloidal Silver Dhyana L. Coburn, Patrick D. Dignan / Plastic Comb / Published 1997 Our Price: $21.95 (Special Order) This book is in stock at that price at http://silver-lightning.com Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Current regulator
- Original Message - From: Trem Williams t...@silvergen.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 8:26 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: Current regulator Much good stuff deleted to save redundancy. I love this, you challenge me, and that is good because we tend to become educated when challenged. :) You know I am right as does anyone who uses constant voltage generators. The current begins to rapidly rise as the silver is deposited in the water. Your voltage, timing, spacing, wetted surface and water temperature all affect the end product. And not to its benefit. Okay, the issue that I am going to get into in this message is voltage and current. first some basics; Charge is expressed in Coulombs. 1 Coulomb = 6.242x10^18 electrons Current = the number of electrons flowing through a circuit in a given period of time, expressed in Amperes. 1 Ampere = 1 coulomb per second. The flow of electrons through any CS generator is measured as current, and is expressed as amps, or milli-amps , but is also able to be calculated as a specific number of electrons flowing from the Cathode to the Anode; the key to understand, is that 30mA of current flow at 5 volts and 30 mA of current flow at 15,000 volts result in EXACTLY the same number of electrons flowing through the system - no more, no less! Example: 30mA of current flowing through a circuit which has 5 volts applied to it (from a small battery or a Monster Bench power supply) has 1.87x10^17 electrons flowing through that circuit. Second example: a Circuit with 15,000 volts applied, with a current of 30mA flowing through it has 1.87x10^17 electrons flowing through it. Exactly the same number of electrons are moving through both example circuits, at the same speed, capable of doing exactly the same job... If we are now back to looking at CS generators, when one electron reaches the positively charged Anode, it can free one silver ion, allowing it to move into the water between the electrodes... Voltage in this basic reaction is irrelevant for a given current flow. Higher Voltage [electron pressure] can be used to overcome a lack of conductivity, and is usefull as far as it is required, but the actual electrons moving through the system are exactly the same, in the same quantities Regulating current to desired levels is the key to quality CS generation, but once you have enough voltage to overcome the low conductivity of distilled water, anything beyond that is inconsequential to the process... Current is very significant, while voltage is not too much current is the thing you have to avoid for a given electrode configuration. I just ran a test: .999 fine, 8oz. 72 degree distilled water, 3 inches wetted depth and 1/2 inch spacing with no saline or other additive. After 15 minutes, I had 5ppm with 3mA. After 25 minutes, I had 12ppm with 5mA. Is 5mA to high? Is 3mA to high? How did you come to the conclusion that 1mA was best? And how can we find out if it is better, worse or the same as 3mA or 5mA? I am not a rocket a scientest, and most people aren't. What is important here is that one is able to produce colloidal silver quickly, and when needed. I for one, don't even have time to take an aspiran sometimes when a headache comes on! I love the pedal to the metal way, it's very fast and efficient. James Allison -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRobert's comments re Susan's color questions
I read in one of the CS aricles on the net. Electro-colloidal silver's effectiveness as a broad-spectrum germicide is directly related to the number and size of the particles. The same volume of space taken up by one silver particle .1 microns in size, will hold about 10,000 silver particles .001 microns in size. This reduction in particle size not only allows for a greater distribution of the silver, but it also greatly increases the total surface area of silver available for interacting with the environment. These, plus the stability of the electrical charge, are the most important factors when considering the effectiveness of colloidal silver. James H-McMillan James Vernon, Allison wrote: James has raised a valid question. I have in the past sent samples to the Univ. of Mo. at Rolla. The large size particles they could check on an S.E.M., but the small size wouldn't register. Mind you, this is only my opinion, but I would think that the particle size would be smaller, however, this is speculation on my part as I didn't notice what the power used to generate the CS is. Whether or not smaller is better I do not know, I have heard many debates over the issue of size but have never seen any actual scientific evidence or theory to validate the particle size issue, except for the fact that we know larger than the industry standard is definitely NOT better. My wife and I are working on what we consider to be the ultimate colloidal silver FAQ, based on research done from others and ourselves, and if you have anything that will help us, I would love to receive it! The FAQ will be non-commercial and entered into the public domain for dissemination, so any info you have would be going for the public good. Yours in health, James Allison -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSdowsing your silver
In a message dated 8/5/99 7:56:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, a...@trail.com writes: Wong is right. James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: James Houston-McMillan [SMTP:jho...@iafrica.com] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 4:21 AM To:silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSdowsing your silver Try http://www.crystalinks.com/dowsing.html James wong...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 8/3/99 7:59:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mdud...@execonn.com writes: crystalinks.com/dowsing.html . Marshal can't access website. wong James Got in today. Didn't do anything different. wong -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSEVERYBODY ON LIST PLEASE READ
Sorry Vilek, Did I do something wrong? Carmen starwo...@primus.com.au - Original Message - From: Vilik Rapheles vi...@peak.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 06, 1999 3:09 AM Subject: CSEVERYBODY ON LIST PLEASE READ I just opened this message: ~~~ Subject: Re: CSMagnets (Was magnetized water) Message: Is there anyone on the Gold Coast of Australia, that knows how to make a cs generator? I would like to buy one please. JUST A REMINDER TO US ALL. UNLESS WE *ALL* MAKE THE SUBJECT CONGRUENT WITH THE BODY OF THE MESSAGE, THIS SYSTEM AIN'T AGONNA WORK. IF YOU ARE ON THIS HIGH-FLYING FREE-WHEELING LIST, PLEASE MAKE IT WORKABLE FOR US ALL BY MAKING THE SUJECT LINE FIT THE CONTENT. Thanks from Everybody to Everybody! ~^^V^^~ Carmen - Original Message - From: Vilik Rapheles vi...@peak.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 02, 1999 10:09 AM Subject: CSMagnets (Was magnetized water) ~~ John, EXCELLENT post! Thank you! Now...question...I am sleeping temporarily on a Nikken mattress of alternating north and south magnets. Nikken is a huge company...a leader in magnet therapy, and they totally discount the idea that anything should be all one pole. They have probably millions of happy customers. I have heard amazing stories about their products. Their products are ALL bipolar. Sooocomments? ~^^V^^~ At 04:03 PM 8/1/99 -0400, you wrote: OK, Art, you made me do it--I found my biomagnetics books (the house is a mess with y2k stuff right now) and found the answer in BIOMAGNETIC HANDBOOK by William H. Philpott, M.D. Dr. Philpott is one of the pioneers in this field and one you will always see quoted in later books. I am quoting him now: All magnets have two poles--north pole and south pole. Electrons from the north pole spin left (counterclockwise) generating negative magnetic energy while electrons from the south pole spin rght (clockwise) genrating positive magnetic energy. This discovery has been reported and confirmed by sophisticated space-age instruments which measure magnetic energy. In this publication [referring to BIOMAGNETIC HANDBOOK] north pole magnetic energy will be referred to as negative (-) magnetic field energy and south pole energy will be referred to as positive (+) magnetic field energy. The terminology negative and positive has no reference to good and bad but rather relates to the laws of electricity and physics. Again, remember that negative and positive polarities have separate and opposite effects on biological systems! Not all magnets are created equal and persons working with magnets must be aware of the differences. There are unipole magnets and bipolar magnets. Unipole magnets are polarized with negative energy on one side of the magnet and positive energy on the opposite side. Researchers and health professionals applying magnetic energy to biological systems must always use unipole magnets so negative or positive energy can be applied selectively. When both positive and negative energy are present on the same side of a magnet, the magnet is referred to as bipolar. Bipolar magnets, popular in industrial use, are NOT TO BE APPLIED TO BIOLOGICAL SYSTEMS [caps mine] since both poles are present and cannot be separated. For example, it would be unwise to grab the decorative magnet from the refrigerator door and use it for therapy since it is bipolar to enhance sticking quality. If bipolar magnets are applied to the humahn body, positive pole energy would be absorbed along with negative. Horseshoe magnets are not suitable for biomagnetics either since the two poles are physically too close together to allow either pole to be applied individually. Remember, since negative and positive magnetic energies have opposite effects on biological systems, only UNIPOLE magnets are appropriate for application in biolmagnetic therapy described in this book. DIFFERENCES IN POLARITY IDENTIFICATON: (This is what you asked about, Art, and what we have been discussing the last few days) Another warning! In purchasing magnets, the reader must be aware and cautioned that the poles of magnets are identified by TWO OPPOSITE SYSTEMS [caps mine]. (l) traditional method of identification used in industry and navigation (opposite of the earth's polarity) and (2) physics identification of the magnetic poles corresponding with the earth's magnetic poles. Biophysics recognizes and equates cellular and tissue polarity with the earth's magnetic poles. Another caution, some authors (especially foreign authors) and medical practitioners have continued to use the traditional industrial method of identifying polarities. It is, therefore, of utmost importance before getting involved in biomagnetics that the reader understand the Law of Polarity and
CSRe: Best CS book to buy
Chuck, it's true you can go to Amazon to find what books they have on CS. That is not the same as a recommendation, as all books are not equal. I was hoping someone would answer Becky as I would like a recommendation also. I did go to Amazon and I ordered one of the books at random with no idea of which one was best. Books are so expensive to guess at. Those of you who know the field know the best works and authors, just as I posted references for biomagnetics. John
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V99 #425
Help! I can't figure out how to open the things that you are sending me. What's the trick? Thanks, Lynn lgoldha...@aol.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Best CS book to buy
Bless you John!!! Thank you for stating the dilemma so well! I continue to look forward to some recommendations on what book the experienced CS'ers would suggest. Becky On Thu, 5 Aug 1999 18:14:47 -0400 (EDT) glades-eg...@webtv.net (johnphil) writes: Chuck, it's true you can go to Amazon to find what books they have on CS. That is not the same as a recommendation, as all books are not equal. I was hoping someone would answer Becky as I would like a recommendation also. I did go to Amazon and I ordered one of the books at random with no idea of which one was best. Books are so expensive to guess at. Those of you who know the field know the best works and authors, just as I posted references for biomagnetics. John ___ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSMagnets (Was magnetized water)
Somebody said... Is there anyone on the Gold Coast of Australia, that knows how to make a cs generator? I would like to buy one please. And I say... I know of somebody that makes them and ships to Australia. grin Email me via apothec...@home.com with your email address and I will be more than happy to get the info to you. James Allison -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSMy apolgies...Tayor and Carmen
The person who wrote the request re a CS, maker, Carmen, is new and struggling with quite a debilitating and serious illness. I understand that we are all trying to remember to change the subject heading, and I think that is a good thing, but I found your reminder uncharacteristically harsh from you. All CAPS is like shouting, and I'm asking us to remember to not shout at one another, and to remember that some are new and not feeling well to boot. Lets be gentle in the healing arena. ~~~ Taylor, My apologies for the appearance of shouting. I was reacting to past experience. I know how hard/impossible it has been on other lists to get people to match subjects to content, and I just overreacted when I opened the magnets post with very little time to spare and found a different content. I thought...uh oh...this whole idea just isn't going to work. Carmen, when I joined this list I was totally ill, and it really pulled me out of it. Welcome. We're trying to figure out how to manage a list that has grown well beyond it's original intentions, and sometimes it gets a little wild west. Many good wishes for your recovery! (And I don't usually shout...honest...) ~^^V^^~ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSmetaphysical?
Marshal How do you neutralize? I understand you can move a bed but with all those energy lines on the property, you can't move the house wong In a message dated 7/23/99 8:04:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mdud...@execonn.com writes: Last month a group of us assisted a person who contacted us to remove some problems from her house. We found loads of energy lines and vortexes on her property, and one energy line crossed her bed. After neutralizing all these lines and vortexes the negative feeling of the area went away after the cleansing. (A bloody civil war battle had been fought on the property, and a field hospital had been set up where the house was). -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: cs from tap water limiting current flow
Trem, Length of time at 1mA? What ppm do you expect? Thanks, Susan L In a message dated 99-07-31 14:38:53 EDT, you write: Yes, current limiting does work and quite well. We have a current regulator in our generators which hold the current at 1 milliampere throughout the whole operating time. The end product is always the same: uniform small particle size and little or no fallout. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Best CS book to buy
On Thu, 5 Aug 1999 18:14:47 -0400 (EDT), glades-eg...@webtv.net (johnphil) wrote: Chuck, it's true you can go to Amazon to find what books they have on CS. That is not the same as a recommendation, as all books are not equal. I was hoping someone would answer Becky as I would like a recommendation also. I did go to Amazon and I ordered one of the books at random with no idea of which one was best. Books are so expensive to guess at. Those of you who know the field know the best works and authors, just as I posted references for biomagnetics. John Okay, Under those circumstances, I'm not qualified to answer as I have NO book on the subject. However, Amazons listing have synopsis' and reviews so the answer still works (I love when that happens). Incidentally, lurking in this newsgroup would be the best source of info in the same way that specialized magazines are often a better source of up-to-date info than books that get bypassed by technology advancements. I'll bet that we as a group now know more about making and using colloidal silver than any book published! And incidental OT spinoffs such as MSM have changed MY life! Not to mention Brooks gems, every one a keeper. or Tom and his wonderful Colloidal Gold experiments... and Bob...etc.,etc.,etc... Chuck Stupid? I don't know the meaning of the word -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSMy apolgies...Tayor and Carmen
On Thu, 05 Aug 1999 17:00:20 -0700, Vilik Rapheles vi...@peak.org wrote: Many good wishes for your recovery! (And I don't usually shout...honest...) ~^^V^^~ Must be hormones Chuck Never let any mechanical device know you're in a hurry -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSCrohns Disease
Hi Sharon, I just think that in my case, I am allergic to cigarettes, and that is what may have contributed to my crohns disease, and that is the reason I asked does the boy smoke. Carmen I still don't know what friend you mean or what friends son?? All I sent you to was a website for HSOs and Crohns. Sharon -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
