CSFungus and seizures

[EJohns9525]

CSers

Pat H. has a daughter  family who bought a home in Daingerfield a few years 
ago.  This year after a wet Spring, they began to have a bad smell in the 
house and upon investigation found that there was a fungus problem under the 
house.  In the meantime their little boy  began having seizures and The 
Doctors have not been able to help him.  I guess he has several a day now.  
They are thinking about consulting with Dr. Joel Robbins.  But in the 
meantime, I'm wondering if we can find anyone with experience with seizures 
caused by fungus, and anything that would help.  

Edith

CSHerpes Whitlow Recurrence

[RAINISAGE]

Just thought I'd share a recent experience with everyone. 
I have not had an outbreak of herpes on my hand for over a year and a half 
since drinking cs. I've been drinking about 2 oz. of cs daily as a 
maintenance dose for quite some months. Just this week without any warning 
signs I developed a numerous amount of blisters. I drank full 8-10 oz glasses 
beginning the first day that I noticed the blisters and they still continued 
to develop. I'll have to say that they did not grow as grandiose as they used 
to but they were still very visible and painful.
The only change in my situation that I can think of is that I have been 
taking some herbs to regulate my hormones for about a month and a half. I 
think estrogen and progesterone aggravate the virus.
I am pretty concerned that the cs did not obliterate the outbreak this time 
around and am just crossing my fingers that this doesn't become a monthly 
nightmare again.
I guess I'll keep you posted.
~Hanan


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Re: CSHerpes Whitlow Recurrence

[ROGALTMAN]

In a message dated 7/17/01 1:12:06 AM EST, rainis...@aol.com writes:

 Subj: CSHerpes Whitlow Recurrence
 Date:  7/17/01 1:12:06 AM EST
 From:  rainis...@aol.com
 Reply-to:  silver-list@eskimo.com
 To:silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 Just thought I'd share a recent experience with everyone. 
 I have not had an outbreak of herpes on my hand for over a year and a half 
 since drinking cs. I've been drinking about 2 oz. of cs daily as a 
 maintenance dose for quite some months. Just this week without any warning 
 signs I developed a numerous amount of blisters. I drank full 8-10 oz 
glasses 
 beginning the first day that I noticed the blisters and they still continued 
 to develop. I'll have to say that they did not grow as grandiose as they 
used 
 to but they were still very visible and painful.
 The only change in my situation that I can think of is that I have been 
 taking some herbs to regulate my hormones for about a month and a half. I 
 think estrogen and progesterone aggravate the virus.
 I am pretty concerned that the cs did not obliterate the outbreak this time 
 around and am just crossing my fingers that this doesn't become a monthly 
 nightmare again.
 I guess I'll keep you posted.
 ~Hanan
  
Hanan: Try mixing your maintenance CS with 2 parts Gatorade, 1 part CS to see 
if that helps. Also apply the CS directly on the outbreak using a gauze to 
keep the area moist with CS. Roger


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CSThe Sea within us, or, My Fish is not salty, Pt6

[Tai-Pan]

 Exaltations Caliphs of the CS art,
Claude Bernard studied the extra cellular fluids (ECF) properties
carefully and found them to be remarkably stable. This is particularly
true of the most complex of the multicellular organisms, the birds, and
mammals. whether placed in warm locations or cold, whether recently fed
or starved, no matter what kind of food taken in the diet, he found that
the composition of the ECF remains relatively unchanged. In a real sense,
the most adaptable of our higher animals actually are made of cells whose
environment, the ECF, remains unchanged despite wide fluctuations in the
external environment. Bernard was able to discover several mechanisms by
which the mammalian body is able to maintain this constancy of its internal
environment. He was so impressed by his findings that he wrote, "The constancy
of the internal environment is the condition of a free and independent
life."
The less complex animals are, however, less capable in this respect,
and this may account for the more restricted lives they live. Early
in the twentieth century, the American physiologist Walter Cannon discovered
still other mechanisms by which the stability of the internal environment
is maintained. He coined the word "homeostasis" to describe this constancy
of the ECF.
Lets look closer at the extra cellular fluid.
Water: The most obvious component of the ECF of any organism---animal,
plant, or protist--- is water. This substance is uniquely suited for the
functions it must carry out as the chief component of the ECF. It is unsurpassed
as a solvent. In this role it brings to the cell many of the other molecules
and ions that make up the ECF and without which life would be impossible.
Not only does water serve as the medium in which substances are carried
to and from the cells, but it also enters the cells and plays a vital role
in the chemical activities within.
Gases: The ECF also contains gases, the most important of which
are oxygen and carbon dioxide. Almost all living cells require oxygen and
must get rid of their waste carbon dioxide. When chlorophyll-containing
cells are exposed to light, they take carbon dioxide from and release oxygen
to the ECF.
Minerals: The ECF also contains dissolved minerals, or salts,
in the form of positively and negatively charged ions.
A short list would look something like this. Na+ (except for plants),
K+, Ca++, Mg++, PO4---, Cl-, SO4--, HCO3-, Fe++, Cu++, Mn++, Zn++, B+++
(required by plants, certain protists), Mo+ (required by plants; certain
protists and animals), V++ (certain protists and animals), Co++ (certain
animals, protists, and plants), and on and on. Almost every natural element
can be found in trace amounts in living cells. Most of them serve a purpose,
some we don't know if they are needed or are just a form of pollution in
the cells. Some we know to be harmful if over certain levels and attempt
to remove them through chelation. Some, such as calcium (Ca++), potassium
(K+), sodium (Na+), chloride (Cl-), phosphate (PO4---), and bicarbonate
(HCO3-), are present in relatively large quantities in animals. Calcium
ions are an essential constituent of our bones as well as the "cement"
that holds individual cells together in tissues. A proper balance of potassium
and sodium ions within and without the cell is necessary for the responsiveness
shown by nerve and muscle cells. Chloride ions play a major role in maintaining
the normal physical properties of the ECF. Phosphate ions are intimately
involved in the distribution and use of energy within the cell. Bicarbonate
ions function in the transport of carbon dioxide and help keep the ECF
from becoming too acid or too alkaline. Plants require substantial quantities
of nitrates (NO3-) in order to synthesize amino acids and, from them, proteins.
Many ions are required only in minute quantities. They are called trace
elements. Most of these trace elements are either incorporated in enzymes
directly or are necessary for the activation of enzymes. Iodine is incorporated
in the hormone thyroxin, and small quantities of the fluoride ion (F-)
are important in strengthening the mineral portions of teeth and
bone.
Some years ago in Australia large numbers of sheep were dying
of starvation and anemia, even though the grass was green and lush. The
sheep were treated with a crude iron compound and recovered their health.
It was soon realized that it wasn't the iron, but traces of cobalt in the
iron that helped the sheep. Injecting the cobalt did not help, it had to
be taken by mouth (orally) to help the sheep. Turns out that the
cobalt was being used by bacteria in the sheep digestive systems and the
bacteria in their turn were making vitamin B12, which the sheep needed
but were unable to make themselves. Man also has bacteria in his digestive
system which produce vitamins that man can not produce himself. Remember
that vitamins are organic substances, and trace elements are ionic mineral
substances, that the body can not 

CSlooking for Ted Windsor

[Nina Silver]

Sorry to have to publicly post this, but I'm looking for Ted Windsor and
misplaced his address. Ted, please contact me privately at ni...@bestweb.net

Thanks.
Nina


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Re: CSNewbie: My Brief Intro

[Stephen Summers]

Hello Anne

Check out the following site for completely objective and v.g. info on CS

http://silverdata.20m.com

Best wishes,

Steve

  - Original Message - 
  From: Anne Louise 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 8:06 PM
  Subject: CSNewbie: My Brief Intro


  Hello List,

  I'm new here and just wanted to post a short introduction.  My name is Anne 
and I learned about this group from an e-friend on another e-group.  

  I'm afraid I'll have nothing to contribute--at least at first--as I'm a total 
neophyte when it comes to CS.  I have heard about it periodically doing my 
reading on natural care for cats.  Thanks to homeopathy and a homemade diet, I 
was able to eliminate ALL symptoms of a terrible case of irritable bowel 
disease in my cat.  Needless to say, the experience of being able to turn 
around the health of a beloved animal 180 degrees using none of the usual 
medications (steroids, antibiotics, etc.) has really opened my eyes to 
alternatives. 

  I'm afraid that my 'expertise' is really in feline diets and not CS, but I 
very much look forward to slogging through some of the MANY great past posts 
and learning.  If anyone can point me to a nifty site to do some very basic 
reading on CS (sort of a CS for Dummies) I'd be most grateful.  

  Anne





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CSRe: gatorade/cs

[Annhope1]

 Hanan: Try mixing your maintenance CS with 2 parts Gatorade, 1 part CS to 
 see if that helps. Also apply the CS directly on the outbreak using a gauze 
 to 
 keep the area moist with CS. Roger

Roger,
This may be an ignorant question.. I know that mixing the CS and gatorade 
makes it more efficient internally but what about externally?  I keep a spray 
bottle of CS in the kitchen for whatever the problem be it cut, scrap, poison 
ivy, etc.  I realize the mix would have a shelf life due to the gatorade but 
does anyone think the skin would utilize the CS more effectively with the 
gatorade added?
Terri L.

Re: CSlymes

[Marshalee Hallett]

  a friend of mine her son has been diagnosed with lymes disease he is 14 years 
old, anyone know how much cs his mom should give him .  thanks in advance
  Lynda

  Dear Lynda, I took 3 big swallows a day when I was in active Lyme. That 
measured out to about a cup a day of about 18 PPM homemade CS. It worked well 
for me. Others have taken more. Lyme is a tough bug.
  Marshalee
  PS, It is Lyme, singular.

Re: CSlymes

[Marshall Dudley]

Lyme is a tough one.  I would take the antibiotics that the doctor gives
him, which may not be enough to get rid of it if he has had it very long
at all, and also give him large amounts of CS.  One can give up to 100%
CS for liquids consumed.  If possible supplant with ozonated water and
either blood electrification or zapping, if he is showing any signs of
joint pain, or lymph node swelling, then mangetic pulsing the joints
and/or lymph nodes may be required as well.  Lyme finds lots of hiding
places and using only one method will often not get to all of them.  The
quicker and harder you hit it, the more likely you will completely get
rid of it.

Marshall

Lynda Khula wrote:

 a friend of mine her son has been diagnosed with lymes disease he is
 14 years old, anyone know how much cs his mom should give him .
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Re: CS**I can't believe it

[Marshalee Hallett]

  Sorry, I was going to, but I had 2 papers and a midterm this week. Pant,
  puff...
  IMHO, CS stops all tick diseases. Period!
  Thank God!
  Love,
  Marshalee

 But Marsha, did you save Candace's lyme protocol or have the list
 members changed their minds in recent years for how it should be
 treated. Remember she ramped up dosage for some long time until no more
 herx as the buggers got into the cells and hid out and came out in
 cycles???, like 30 day cycles?? It involved dosages by weight too.   Deb

Dear Deb, No, I don`t know anything about a protocol. I just take CS I make
my self whenever anything comes along, or better yet, all the time to keep
it away! So far so good.
Marshalee


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Re: CS selling?

[Marshall Dudley]

Not true.  You MUST put the nutrition facts on the label.  You must put the
quantity.  You must put the manufacturer or supplier.  You must follow certain
format rules.

See http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/flg-1.html

Marshall

Ode Coyote wrote:

  A label that should be legal everywhere...

  Contains distilled water and LVDC Colloidal Silver at approximately 10PPM.
  [and nothing else]

  No claims to disclaim, you see?
 Ken

 At 12:48 PM 7/15/01 -0400, you wrote:
 Nick Grant wrote:
 
  Hi everyone
 
  I was reading through a phamplet in one of the health shops here in NZ that
  sell CS...I noticed that they are saying that all other brands are inferior
  (surprise!!) but they also said, and I quote:
 
  Homemade (2nd generation) CS lacks strict, controlled manufacturing
  procedures and the purity of basic raw materials, the dangers exist by
  producing a solution that contains toxic substances, namely silver
 chloride,
  silver sulphate etc.
 
 That is a rather absurd statement.  The control of the procedure and the
 purity
 of the raw materials is totally under the person's control, and thus can be
 either sloppy, or highly regulated.   Sounds like they are saying that if you
 buy distilled water, instead of them buying it, it will lack purity.  Pure
 marketing BS.
 
  At best it is an inferior quality, which lacks bioavailability and a short
  shelf life, at worst, it is toxic and possibly dangerous.
 
 Yeah, right.  More marketing BS.
 
  It is not only illegal to sell homemade CS, it is also very
  risky making something so scientifically technical at home without proper
  analysis...blah, blah, blah...
 
 
 I have read somewhere that to sell CS it must be made by the method of
 production prior to 1938 which was according to what I read the HVAC method.
 The article had indicated that it is illegal to make and sell LDVC CS.  But I
 have never seen anything from the FDA on this and have my doubts if it is
 true.
 
  They said that their silver is 50mcg per 5ml of atom sized particles of
 pure
  silver approx 1.26 angstrom...
 
 
 That is 50 milligrams per liter, or 50 ppm.  From what I understand that is
 impossible.  If they are atoms, they are ions, not colloid, and the maximum
 solubility of silver ions in room temperature water is reported to be
 about 10
 ppm.  Sounds like more marketing hype with no basis in fact to me.
 
 
  Whats that in ppms?
 
 50.
 
  Comments? on the above warning about homemade silver selling being illegal
  please?  I know quite a few that do itno FDA over here to shoot us
 
 Well, in most cases it probably would be illegal to sell it.  First of all
 the
 labeling must comply with strict regulations, which included what it
 contains,
 and a nutritional facts box as well as the net weight.  It must say that
 it is
 not to prevent or cure any diseases. If you label it properly, then it is
 most
 likely not illegal to sell, unless the HVAC vs LVDC argument above is true.
 
 However it is all in the labeling.  If for instance you were to sell and
 label
 it for use in chemistry experiments, or as a Christmas tree life extender,
 then
 the FDA would not be involved at all.  You cannot control how a person
 uses it
 after purchasing it.
 
 You see this all the time.  I.E.. you can pay a lot for diatomaceous earth
 that
 is FDA approved or pay a little for the same thing that is labeled for
 animals
 only.  Well, I am an animal, so what's the difference?  Just the labeling,
 and
 FDA oversight. (another one is the antibiotic polymyxin.  You can buy it
 off the
 shelf for a few bucks for a large tube, but if you go to the doctor with
 an eye
 infection he will likely prescribe the same thing in a small tube for the
 eye,
 that is very expensive.  Prior to discovering CS I use to forget the
 doctor and
 simply use the stuff in the over the counter tube.)
 
 Marshall
 
 
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Re: CS selling?

[Ode Coyote]

 A label that should be legal everywhere...

 Contains distilled water and LVDC Colloidal Silver at approximately 10PPM.
 [and nothing else]

 No claims to disclaim, you see?
Ken





At 12:48 PM 7/15/01 -0400, you wrote:
Nick Grant wrote:

 Hi everyone

 I was reading through a phamplet in one of the health shops here in NZ that
 sell CS...I noticed that they are saying that all other brands are inferior
 (surprise!!) but they also said, and I quote:

 Homemade (2nd generation) CS lacks strict, controlled manufacturing
 procedures and the purity of basic raw materials, the dangers exist by
 producing a solution that contains toxic substances, namely silver
chloride,
 silver sulphate etc.

That is a rather absurd statement.  The control of the procedure and the
purity
of the raw materials is totally under the person's control, and thus can be
either sloppy, or highly regulated.   Sounds like they are saying that if you
buy distilled water, instead of them buying it, it will lack purity.  Pure
marketing BS.

 At best it is an inferior quality, which lacks bioavailability and a short
 shelf life, at worst, it is toxic and possibly dangerous.

Yeah, right.  More marketing BS.

 It is not only illegal to sell homemade CS, it is also very
 risky making something so scientifically technical at home without proper
 analysis...blah, blah, blah...


I have read somewhere that to sell CS it must be made by the method of
production prior to 1938 which was according to what I read the HVAC method.
The article had indicated that it is illegal to make and sell LDVC CS.  But I
have never seen anything from the FDA on this and have my doubts if it is
true.

 They said that their silver is 50mcg per 5ml of atom sized particles of
pure
 silver approx 1.26 angstrom...


That is 50 milligrams per liter, or 50 ppm.  From what I understand that is
impossible.  If they are atoms, they are ions, not colloid, and the maximum
solubility of silver ions in room temperature water is reported to be
about 10
ppm.  Sounds like more marketing hype with no basis in fact to me.


 Whats that in ppms?

50.

 Comments? on the above warning about homemade silver selling being illegal
 please?  I know quite a few that do itno FDA over here to shoot us

Well, in most cases it probably would be illegal to sell it.  First of all
the
labeling must comply with strict regulations, which included what it
contains,
and a nutritional facts box as well as the net weight.  It must say that
it is
not to prevent or cure any diseases. If you label it properly, then it is
most
likely not illegal to sell, unless the HVAC vs LVDC argument above is true.

However it is all in the labeling.  If for instance you were to sell and
label
it for use in chemistry experiments, or as a Christmas tree life extender,
then
the FDA would not be involved at all.  You cannot control how a person
uses it
after purchasing it.

You see this all the time.  I.E.. you can pay a lot for diatomaceous earth
that
is FDA approved or pay a little for the same thing that is labeled for
animals
only.  Well, I am an animal, so what's the difference?  Just the labeling,
and
FDA oversight. (another one is the antibiotic polymyxin.  You can buy it
off the
shelf for a few bucks for a large tube, but if you go to the doctor with
an eye
infection he will likely prescribe the same thing in a small tube for the
eye,
that is very expensive.  Prior to discovering CS I use to forget the
doctor and
simply use the stuff in the over the counter tube.)

Marshall


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Re: CSWhere to Procure and What Strength?

[Ode Coyote]

 For the price of about 12 to 24 oz of store bought CSof questionable consistancy, you can buy or make a CS generator of your own that will produce many many gallons of the stuff.
Wellspring grocery store sells 10PPM CS for $15 for 2oz, GNC sells Mild Silver Protien..forget how much but way high$$$
And some of the commercial stuff is NOT electro colloidal silver but some sort of chemical precipitate crapola.


Someone may plug my premade generator here if they wish :-)

Ken

At 11:34 AM 7/16/01 -0700, you wrote: 

Newbie Anne here.  I know I just posted my intro and promised to sit back quietly and read, but I already have a question.  Forgive how BASIC this is . . . 

If you were me, and wanted to have some colloidal silver 'on hand' for emergencies--particularly for animals but also for less furry ones (like us humans)--where might you purchase it and in what strength(s) should you purchase it?  Thanks in advance.

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Re: CSRe: gatorade/cs

[Dottie Glenn]

 Hanan: Try mixing your maintenance CS with 2 parts Gatorade, 1 part CS to 

 see if that helps. Also apply the CS directly on the outbreak using a gauze 

 to 

 keep the area moist with CS. Roger 



Roger, 

This may be an ignorant question.. I know that mixing the CS and gatorade 

makes it more efficient internally but what about externally? I keep a spray 

bottle of CS in the kitchen for whatever the problem be it cut, scrap, poison 

ivy, etc. I realize the mix would have a shelf life due to the gatorade but 

does anyone think the skin would utilize the CS more effectively with the 

gatorade added? 

Terri L. 



Because Gatorade has sugar content and just desiring the electrolytes to mix with the CS, I am using a product called Essentia instead of Gatorade. This product ingredient label says: purified water enhanced with electrolytes derived from sodium bicarbonate, magnesium sulfate, dipotassium phosphate and calcium chloride.



There are other brand names of this sort of water out there. I would think that using something like this with CS would be a much easier application for external use.



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Re: CS HERPES

[larry tankersley]

Dear list
 I've had herpes since I was a kid and here's what I started doing about
5 years ago after I read that a virus can't live in temp. above 105F
The very minute I feel the slight burn on my lip and before there is
anything but a slight redness,I boil [heat] some water ,dip the corner
of a wash cloth in it and keep touching it to my lip until I can hold it
on. I keep repeating this perhaps 10 times and often use a ice cube in
between  using the hot wash cloth. So far it has never failed to nip the
little buggers in the bud. At worst I might get a small pin head size
blister instead of one the size of a Buick. But you must do it the
minute you think... OH NO I THINK Im getting a herpe.
 Hope this helps.



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CS My first success with home brew

[larry tankersley]

Well I made my second batch of LVDC-CS .have no idea of
PPM.ion/part. etc.,but when it started to take on a little color I quit
[ I know this makes some folks nuts,and I do plan to get my act together
and have ole Bob test some samples..soon] 
  Anyway Mulligan the cat came in for breakfast yesterday... now
here is a cat that won't drink filtered tap water unless there isn't a
drop to be had in the bird bath,puddles or rain bucket. I filled a bowl
up with my first batch which was clear and removed his food bowl. He
drank every drop he would drink and stop then go back ad drink more
till it was all gone. The best part is he's still alive today which
makes me feel a lot better about drinking this stuff.
 But here is the success story. I came in smelling like a mule and
remembered some folks saying CS makes a good deodorant. so I sprayed
some under my arms and wiped with a paper towel several times but still
stunk. I was disappointed and decided not to take a shower but put on a
t-shirt and soaked the under arms with the second batch that was a bit
yellow. 2 hours later the smell was gone. Here's the best part. I then
made up a CS and backing soda paste and after a shower applied it under
my arms. I just came in from cutting the grass and was dripping wet and
still no under arm odor !! 
 Now they don't call Gainesville the Gspot for no reason,it is a hot
humid place,but it looks like I may never have to take a shower again ;)
 Just got a second opinion on that !



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Re: CS HERPES

[Marshall Dudley]

Ingenious.

Marshall

larry tankersley wrote:

 Dear list
  I've had herpes since I was a kid and here's what I started doing about
 5 years ago after I read that a virus can't live in temp. above 105F
 The very minute I feel the slight burn on my lip and before there is
 anything but a slight redness,I boil [heat] some water ,dip the corner
 of a wash cloth in it and keep touching it to my lip until I can hold it
 on. I keep repeating this perhaps 10 times and often use a ice cube in
 between  using the hot wash cloth. So far it has never failed to nip the
 little buggers in the bud. At worst I might get a small pin head size
 blister instead of one the size of a Buick. But you must do it the
 minute you think... OH NO I THINK Im getting a herpe.
  Hope this helps.

 larry tankersley; Gainesville,Florida USA

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Re: CS HERPES

[Wayne Fugitt]

Morning Larry,

blister instead of one the size of a Buick. But you must do it the

minute you think... OH NO I THINK Im getting a herpe.


   I used to get these every year or so.  For the last 15 years, It seems 
I get one about every 3 or 4 years.


There is a B vitamin that I keep handy just for that.  As soon as I feel 
the first pressure, I start taking these every hour or so.   Maybe it is 
B6.  Not sure.


If that fails, I just stick the critter with a needle to kill it.  I have 
not had one since I started taking the CS.


That might be telling us something.   But. generally, I think I have 
enhanced the immune system over the last 3 to 5 years.


Wayne


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Re: CSRe: gatorade/cs

[G. T.]

Hi Dottie- I was wondering the same thing- if it's just the electrolytes and not the sugar that enhance the cs- "Miracle sports water" is another good water with electrolytes minus the sugar.I don't have a bottle on hand, but I believe it hasof the same minerals (mainly potassium, if my memory serves me) as Gatorade.  GT

From: "Dottie Glenn" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CSRe: gatorade/cs 
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 07:44:42 -0700 
 
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 Hanan: Try mixing your maintenance CS with 2 parts Gatorade, 1 part CS to

 see if that helps. Also apply the CS directly on the outbreak using a gauze

 to

 keep the area moist with CS. Roger



Roger,

This may be an ignorant question.. I know that mixing the CS and gatorade

makes it more efficient internally but what about externally? I keep a spray

bottle of CS in the kitchen for whatever the problem be it cut, scrap, poison

ivy, etc. I realize the mix would have a shelf life due to the gatorade but

does anyone think the skin would utilize the CS more effectively with the

gatorade added?

Terri L.



Because Gatorade has sugar content and just desiring the electrolytes to mix with the CS, I am using a product called Essentia instead of Gatorade. This product ingredient label says: purified water enhanced with electrolytes derived from sodium bicarbonate, magnesium sulfate, dipotassium phosphate and calcium chloride.



There are other brand names of this sort of water out there. I would think that using something like this with CS would be a much easier application for external use.



Comments?



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Re: CSRe: gatorade/cs

[Marshall Dudley]

I think a product called Pediolyte found in drug stores doesn't have
sugar either.

Marshall

G. T. wrote:



 Hi Dottie- I was wondering the same thing- if it's just the
 electrolytes and not the sugar that enhance the cs- Miracle sports
 water is another good water with electrolytes minus the sugar. I
 don't have a bottle on hand, but I believe it has of the same minerals
 (mainly potassium, if my memory serves me) as Gatorade.  GT
  From: Dottie Glenn
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSRe: gatorade/cs
 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 07:44:42 -0700
 

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 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 07:45:16 -0700
 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 07:44:42 -0700
 From: Dottie Glenn dottsgar...@hotmail.com
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com



   Hanan: Try mixing your maintenance CS with 2 parts Gatorade, 1
 part CS to
  see if that helps. Also apply the CS directly on the outbreak using
 a gauze
  to
  keep the area moist with CS. Roger
 Roger,
 This may be an ignorant question.. I know that mixing the CS and
 gatorade
 makes it more efficient internally but what about externally? I keep a
 spray
 bottle of CS in the kitchen for whatever the problem be it cut, scrap,
 poison
 ivy, etc. I realize the mix would have a shelf life due to the
 gatorade but
 does anyone think the skin would utilize the CS more effectively with
 the
 gatorade added?
 Terri L. Because Gatorade has sugar content and just desiring the
 electrolytes to mix with the CS, I am using a product called Essentia
 instead of Gatorade.  This product ingredient label says:  purified
 water enhanced with electrolytes derived from sodium bicarbonate,
 magnesium sulfate, dipotassium phosphate and calcium chloride. There
 are other brand names of this sort of water out there.  I would think
 that using something like this with CS would be a much easier
 application for external use. Comments? Dottie


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CSTopical CS Applications

[ROGALTMAN]

In a message dated 7/17/01 8:59:48 AM EST, annho...@aol.com writes:

 Roger,
 This may be an ignorant question.. I know that mixing the CS and gatorade 
 makes it more efficient internally but what about externally?  I keep a 
spray 
 bottle of CS in the kitchen for whatever the problem be it cut, scrap, 
poison 
 ivy, etc.  I realize the mix would have a shelf life due to the gatorade but 
 does anyone think the skin would utilize the CS more effectively with the 
 gatorade added?
 Terri L. 

Terri: For difficult topical CS applications, I would opt for mixing the CS 
with MSM or, if that doesn't work, use DMSO. If DMSO is used, one has to be 
very careful about cleanliness because the DMSO will carry just about 
anything into the bloodstream. Roger


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CSFw: hi there

[Lynda Khula]

this is a letter from my sister who has the lung cancer in both lungs and
the doctors had given her no hope one even told her she had lived two years
longer then she should so go get things in order,  that was in May, since
taking the cs the change is fantastic anyway read her letter my thanks to
the many people who emailed me and to ALLISONS APOTHECARY  where I purchased
her machine for her, he stated could she get a new cat scan in 6 months and
it was the first time anyone said anything positive to me about her cancer
everyone else was saying 2 to 4 weeks if she is lucky,  so thanks to
everyone and to cs

Lynda

Subject: hi there


 hi Lynda,
 I have never felt better and I know it is because of the cs...before I
 started drinking cs, I could hardly breath.my voice was not my
 own.had pain pressure on right lung when lying down..and now I
have
 energymy voice has returned to normal.no pain in lung.no
 coughing.and sleep very comfortable..and I feel the tumor has
 shunkstill doing chemo because I feel it is helping as well..my
 breathing is unbelievable.I can take deep breaths with no pain..so
 cs is in my life to staylove sis





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Re: CSGatorade/CS Test

[Gladys Williams]

New to the list--don't know exactly what the Gatorade test is for??? 
Would like to volunteer though, especially since I don't know how to make
CS as yet.  Gladys

On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 15:24:56 EDT rogalt...@aol.com writes:
 In a message dated 7/16/01 1:47:10 PM EST, cking...@nycap.rr.com 
 writes:
 
  Subj: Re: CSGatorade/CS Test
  Date:  7/16/01 1:47:10 PM EST
  From:  cking...@nycap.rr.com
  Reply-to:  silver-list@eskimo.com
  To:silver-list@eskimo.com
  
  On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 06:52:21 EDT, rogalt...@aol.com wrote:
  
  Who knows, if 
  enough of you add your names to our list of participants he may 
 become less 
  grouchy, perhaps even charming.
  
  Doubtful
  That's a lotta grouch to overcome!!!
  Almost a century's head start!!!
 Chuck
   
 
 Chuck: I'm willing to bet that if YOU joined in, Ole Bob will send 
 you a 
 personal letter of appreciation (even if I have to forge one). 
 Roger
 
 
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Re: CSGatorade/CS Test

[ROGALTMAN]

In a message dated 7/17/01 3:00:35 PM EST, gw...@juno.com writes:

 Subj: Re: CSGatorade/CS Test
 Date:  7/17/01 3:00:35 PM EST
 From:  gw...@juno.com (Gladys Williams)
 Reply-to:  silver-list@eskimo.com
 To:silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 New to the list--don't know exactly what the Gatorade test is for??? 
 Would like to volunteer though, especially since I don't know how to make
 CS as yet.  Gladys
  

Gladys: Thanks for volunteering. I just completed an abstract which I've 
included below. In a separate email, I'll send you additional material that 
you'll be needing. Please read it thoroughly before make your final decision 
to become part of the test group. Thanks again. Roger

Dr. Roger Altman, President of Reclamation Research, Natural Bridge, NY 
[Reclamation Research, RR1 Box 102, Natural Bridge, NY 13665, Tel. 
315-644-4274] has been working with Mr. Robert Berger, of System Tech 
Engineering, Kansas City, MO [System Tech Engineering, 12303 E.89th St., 
Kansas city, MO 64138-5150, Tel. 816-313-7769, Fax 816-313-8760] to determine 
the relative in vivos germicidal activity of ionic silver. A second goal of 
this investigation is to determine if balanced fluid electrolytes can enhance 
the germicidal activity of ionic silver. The proposed procedure includes the 
following steps:

1) Select test subjects who have used colloidal silver to treat various 
ailments.

2) Produce colloidal silver test solutions that are 100% ionic as well as 
similar solutions that contain no silver at all.

3) Issue these test solutions to participants by means of a double blind 
distribution channel so that half receive the 100% ionic silver and the other 
half receive the placebo.

4) Provide instructions to dilute the test solution to 5 PPM silver, a 
concentration  similar to that used by most who take colloidal silver.

5) Instruct participants to compare the performance of the as is test 
solution to the colloidal silver they have been using.

6) Instruct participants to mix 2 parts of a balanced fluid electrolyte with 
one part of the test solution to determine if there is an improvement in the 
performance of the test solution relative to the test solution used as is.

7) Request participants to keep separate written accounts of their 
observations for each infirmity treated, and each individual who takes part 
in this study.

8) After approximately 3-6 months of observations for a particular infirmity 
have been accumulated, participants are instructed to complete a brief survey 
which is designed to evaluate the performance of the test solution, relative 
to the colloidal silver they have been using, and the performance of the 
balanced fluid electrolyte plus test solution combination, relative to the 
test solution used as is.

9) A Chi Square analysis will then be used to determine if there is any sign 
of relative incremental performance after eliminating statistically the 
placebo effect.

A final report will be issued at the completion of this study.


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CSEmergency

[michael murray]

Dear List,
 I have used 16 oz of golden yellow cs everyday for months and no
problem for me.  My strep throat went away in 3 hours one time.  The
Emergency involves a friend of mine who is a very kind person.  He has
asked his wife to keep his current illness private but we don't know if
he is to live or die.  He has been using cs for a few weeks now after
someone introduced he and I due to his interest in cs.  If someone here
can help then Dr. LaVarta's phone number is (970)385-8585 or
(970)385-8584.  He thinks the lining in his gut are coming out and
feels sick.  I wonder if that could be toxins built up in the gut
coming out and the sickness from recirculated toxins being broken up by
the cs oxygen carrying capacity.  He refuses to go to a hospital at
this point and so there is one more matter pertinent to Dr. LaVarta; he
had a radiation seed prostate cancer treatment years ago and I wonder
if the cs(it is from limited current and small enough to enter cell
membrane)is causing the radiation to do something negative.  He, in his
professional opinion, is afraid.  The fastest way to help is by calling
and asking for his wife, Dafine, at one of the above phone numbers.  I
only offered this as research material supported by my personal
statement of what it has done for me and without charge.  I have had no
negative reactions personally.

Thanks,
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Re: CSHerpes Whitlow Recurrence

[Nick Grant]

Hanan

Hi there... my sons herpes around his mouth are kept under control by Cs,
EXCEPT when he eats oranges and it seems to override the CS... certain
things are such strong aggravators to herpes, that CS cannot fight it.
having said that, my son has been having mandarins lately and he is fine...
I took to giving him the mandarin THEN the CS about half an hour
later...This works...try taking your hormonal tabs, then CS half an hour
later?

You are right about hormones - I took progesterone for a couple of months,
by candida went MAD... stopped the Pro... and it has taken ages to get it
back to how it was bother!

Tracy

- Original Message -
From: rainis...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2001 18:02
Subject: CSHerpes Whitlow Recurrence


 Just thought I'd share a recent experience with everyone.
 I have not had an outbreak of herpes on my hand for over a year and a half
 since drinking cs. I've been drinking about 2 oz. of cs daily as a
 maintenance dose for quite some months. Just this week without any warning
 signs I developed a numerous amount of blisters. I drank full 8-10 oz
glasses
 beginning the first day that I noticed the blisters and they still
continued
 to develop. I'll have to say that they did not grow as grandiose as they
used
 to but they were still very visible and painful.
 The only change in my situation that I can think of is that I have been
 taking some herbs to regulate my hormones for about a month and a half. I
 think estrogen and progesterone aggravate the virus.
 I am pretty concerned that the cs did not obliterate the outbreak this
time
 around and am just crossing my fingers that this doesn't become a monthly
 nightmare again.
 I guess I'll keep you posted.
 ~Hanan


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Re: CSHerpes Whitlow Recurrence

[G. T.]

Hanan- ozone completely prevents herpes breakouts. Coupled with CS, I'm sure it would be a good double-whammy against it. You're probably already aware of the following, but just a reminder: sun exposure also triggers herpes outbreaks, so perhaps the summer sun had something to do with yours. Also, lysine and zinc might be good to add to your supplements for the rest of summer, since they help keep it under control as well. GT

From: "Nick Grant" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
To: 
Subject: Re: CSHerpes Whitlow Recurrence 
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 09:44:52 +1200 
 
Hanan 
 
Hi there... my sons herpes around his mouth are kept under control by Cs, 
EXCEPT when he eats oranges and it seems to override the CS... certain 
things are such strong aggravators to herpes, that CS cannot fight it. 
having said that, my son has been having mandarins lately and he is fine... 
I took to giving him the mandarin THEN the CS about half an hour 
later...This works...try taking your hormonal tabs, then CS half an hour 
later? 
 
You are right about hormones - I took progesterone for a couple of months, 
by candida went MAD... stopped the Pro... and it has taken ages to get it 
back to how it was bother! 
 
Tracy 
 
- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2001 18:02 
Subject: CSHerpes Whitlow Recurrence 
 
 
  Just thought I'd share a recent experience with everyone. 
  I have not had an outbreak of herpes on my hand for over a year and a half 
  since drinking cs. I've been drinking about 2 oz. of cs daily as a 
  maintenance dose for quite some months. Just this week without any warning 
  signs I developed a numerous amount of blisters. I drank full 8-10 oz 
glasses 
  beginning the first day that I noticed the blisters and they still 
continued 
  to develop. I'll have to say that they did not grow as grandiose as they 
used 
  to but they were still very visible and painful. 
  The only change in my situation that I can think of is that I have been 
  taking some herbs to regulate my hormones for about a month and a half. I 
  think estrogen and progesterone aggravate the virus. 
  I am pretty concerned that the cs did not obliterate the outbreak this 
time 
  around and am just crossing my fingers that this doesn't become a monthly 
  nightmare again. 
  I guess I'll keep you posted. 
  ~Hanan 
  
  
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Re: CS** can't believe it/CS and mercury?

[Sandyalbre]

Wayne-
It was a lot of gut feeling or paramoia after I read, It's All in Your Head 
--The Link Between Mercury Amalgams and Illness . . . that sent me to a 
special dentist that agreed to take out all of the mercury fillings/crowns 
and replace them with composites (it cost me a small fortune), but I was 
itching --- that is how I new I had a lot of poison in my system . . . After 
the second dental appointment and 5 -6 mercury amalgams were replaced, I 
stopped itching. I don't know if this helps ...

Sandy

Re: CSRe: gatorade/cs

[brooks bradley]

Dear Terri,
We determinedseveral years ago.in our experimental 
research, that Dmso combined (at no more than 20% by volume with a parent 
solution of 5 to 20 ppm CS yielded the most efficacious result for external 
applications.  In all cases where the skin surface has been broken it is 
adviseable to mix the DMSO fraction with approximately 5%---by volumeof 2% 
Lidocaine.  Otherwise, the pain sometimes elevates immediately to intolerable 
levels.  This is especially important when performing experimental protocols on 
ulcerated presentations.
Any form of balanced fluid electrolyte solution...even those 
containing sugar fractionsoffer only limited penetration assistance for 
accompanying CS mixtures---in topical applications..  While the sugar does, 
in fact, yield some degree of bacteria control assistance, it appears to be of 
minor consequence-especially in cases addressing acute primary insults. 
Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.
  - Original Message - 
  From: annho...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 8:59 AM
  Subject: CSRe: gatorade/cs


  
Hanan: Try mixing your maintenance CS with 2 parts Gatorade, 1 part CS to 
see if that helps. Also apply the CS directly on the outbreak using a gauze 
to 
keep the area moist with CS. Roger


  Roger, 
  This may be an ignorant question.. I know that mixing the CS and gatorade 
  makes it more efficient internally but what about externally?  I keep a spray 
  bottle of CS in the kitchen for whatever the problem be it cut, scrap, poison 
  ivy, etc.  I realize the mix would have a shelf life due to the gatorade but 
  does anyone think the skin would utilize the CS more effectively with the 
  gatorade added? 
  Terri L. 

Re: CSHerpes Whitlow Recurrence

[RAINISAGE]

Thank you everyone for your replies.
I think I was in shock over having an outbreak after so long and being so 
confident in cs.
I put 35% H202 on the sores yesterday and have been spraying them with cs. 
They seem to be drying up a bit more quickly.
I will try the Gatorade suggestion...been following that discussion a little 
bit and I guess it's time to think about it more seriously.
Lysine did help out some in the past so I might try that again.
How much zinc should one take daily?
Been riding a motorcycle lately so the sun may factor into the dilemma.
Will definitely try the boiling water treatment if I do get another outbreak.
I keep meaning to get some DMSO.
And...I guess it's time for me to look more seriously at the other Beck 
protocols.
What an exhausting virus!!

~Hanan

P.S. I was taking the herbs to fill out my breasts a bit...they kinda 
deflated after having my child. The herbs actually work pretty well and 
quickly. I've stopped taking them and hope I will not have another outbreak 
any time soon. And I hope my breast won't deflate again! :)


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Re: CS and Shingles

[MARIANO DELISE]

I don't know about the archives. but my neighbor had shingles over eight
years ago.  He did not have the soars any longer, but he was in terrific
pain all this time.
He started drinking about 3 oz CS per day.  After six months his pain is
almost completely gone.
Nancy D

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From: JudytheK apea...@midcoast.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 4:57 PM
Subject: RE: CS and Shingles


 Since shingles is a herpes virus (chicken pox) I would
 strongly suspect that using it both topically and
 internally makes sense -- cure the painful outbreak and
 then kill the internal virus.

 -Original Message-
 From: Tom Bassett [mailto:tb...@cyberwar.com]
 Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 2:09 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CS and Shingles


 Hey CS gang,

 Have we ever discussed whether CS used topically is
 beneficial to someone with  a mild case of shingles..??

 If anyone remembers whether the archives holds any info
 on shingles, plse give me a holler at:
 tb...@cyberwar.com

 I am going into the archives now to search, but in the past I have missed
 a topic that was Archived because of the vast amt of info there and how
the
 info
 was cataloged.

 Thanks,
 Tom Bassett


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CSnew oldtimer

[Jim]

Howdy,

I haven't been on the silver list for a couple years or so.  Have been making 
my own cs for about 4 years, have nearly forgotten (thankfully) what it is to 
be sick.

Am interested in new and improved cs makers.  I have been running constant 
current dc, polarity switched every few seconds.  Also have a 10kv CSPro 
system, but don't use it much anymore.

Anyone with newer machine designs can feel free to email me on or off list.

Thanks,

Jim