CSok, question on making cs -can you believe it?

2004-02-09 Thread William Meyer

hi
i recently bought a new generator. made some cs that was clear and had 
mettalic taste.


meanwhile...

i had a previous batch in a clean jar made by my previous generator. 
this was clear and
i assume it actually was cs. i say this because it was hard for me to 
discern metallic taste.


so...

i emptied this clean jar, sprayed some 3% food grade hydrogen peroxide 
that used tap water
as a dilution solution on the inside, let the jar drain (tho there were 
still some drops clinging

to the inside of the jar),

and...

poured the new cs from my new generator into the jar.
this clear cs immediately turned to yellowish cloudy consistency in 
this jar.


***what happened? is this stuff still good? what was the reaction?

 there is more to making good cs than meets the eye.


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CSOT to some. Mobil and Exxon Gas

2004-02-09 Thread Hank
Sounds good to me. Please read all this and do it.
Yours Hank

Subject: [govtwatch2] PLEASE HELP! From Tom Paxton
 
Dear friends  family,

I hear we are going to hit close to $3.00 a gallon by
the summer. Want gasoline prices to come down? We need
to take some intelligent, united action. Phillip
Hollsworth, offered this good idea: This makes MUCH
MORE SENSE than the don't buy gas on a certain day
campaign that was going around last April or May! The
oil companies just laughed at that because they knew
we wouldn't continue to hurt ourselves by refusing
to buy gas. It was more of an inconvenience to us than
it was a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of
this idea, has come up with a plan that can really
work. Please read it and join with us! 
 
 By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at
about $1.50 is super cheap. Me too! It is currently
$1.77 for regular unleaded gas in Riverwoods, IL.   We
all know that we're being screwed by the oil
companies.  Does everyone remember how they drove up
the prices way past a dollar and got the gas prices to
where they wanted them, claiming there was a shortage
of oil.  Well, there isn't any shortage now, and the
oil is more abundant than it was 35 years ago when the
price of a gallon of gas was 29 cents!!!

 
 Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have
conditioned us to think that the cost of a gallon of
gas is CHEAP at $1.50- $1.75, we need to take
aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control
the marketplacenot sellers. With the price of
gasoline going up more each day, we consumers need to
take action. The only way we are going to see the
price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the
pocketbook by not purchasing their gas! And we can do
that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. How? Since we all rely
on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas. But we CAN
have an impact on gas prices if we all act together to
force a price war. 
 
Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T
purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies
(which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL. If they are not
selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their
prices. If they reduce their prices, the other
companies will have to follow suit. But to have an
impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon
and Mobil gas buyers. It's really simple to do!! Now,
don't whimp out on me at this point...keep reading and
I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of
people!! 
 
I am sending this note to at least thirty people. If
each of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 =
300) ... and those 300 send it to at least ten more
(300 x 10 = 3,000)...and so on, by the time the
message reaches the sixth generation of people, we
will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers! If
those three million get excited and pass this on to
ten friends each, then 30 million people will have
been contacted! If it goes one level further, you
guessed it. THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!! Again,
all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's
all (If you don't understand how we can reach 300
million and all you have to do is send this to 10
people Well, let's face it, you just aren't a
mathematician. But I am .. so trust me on this one.) 
 
How long would all that take? If each of us sends this
email out to ten more people within one day of
receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be
contacted within the next 8 days!!! I'll bet you I
didn't think you and I had that much potential, did
you! Acting together we can make a difference. If this
makes sense to you, please pass this message on.
PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE
$1.30 OR LESS RANGE AND KEEP THEM DOWN.  THIS CAN
REALLY WORK!!!


PLEASE take a few minutes and pass this on to everyone
you know!!  If you can't e-mail it to at least ten
people, please print out a bunch of copies and hand it
out to your family and friends!!  


 
NO MORE MOBIL  EXXON FOR ME


 
Thank you very much!  

Tom Paxton 

Re: CSRe: Lyme

2004-02-09 Thread Hank
Hi JBB, it opened fine for me. If you can't get to the page I can copy it and 
send to you.
Sincerely Yours,
Hank
http://members.fortunecity.com/hdka
http://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.html
http://members.fortunecity.com/hdka/menact.html

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jonathan B. Britten 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 7:28 PM
  Subject: Re: CSRe: Lyme


  Could you kindly check this link?  I get a File not Found message.  
  Thanks.




  JBB


  On Sunday, Feb 8, 2004, at 19:12 Asia/Tokyo, Jan Stoeten wrote:

   You may want to visit the following site and download Donald Scott's
   MYCOPLASMA
   The Linking Pathogen in Neurosystemic Diseases at
   http://www.whale.to/v/scott.html. I  know Donald Scott and can 
   personally
   vouch for his unblemished integrity and honesty. Anyone not familiar 
   with
   his work should defenitely become familiar with it. I highly 
   reccommend it.
  
   All the best
   Jan Stoeten
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 6:48 AM
   Subject: CSRe: Lyme
  
  
  
   http://www.rense.com/general48/mutl.htm
  
   Donald Scott says most of them are Mycoplasma Fermentans Incognitus 
   most
   of
   the time.
  
   Somewhere, on an old hard drive, I have  a copy of the patent for it. 
It
   is
   held by The United States Army.
  
   JOH
  
  
  
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RE: CSSmoking prevents lung cancer

2004-02-09 Thread Thora Rasmussen
I do smoke and drink tons of coffee (black).  Those are the only bad habits
I have left, literally.  So I sure have made major changes since 12 years
ago.  The changes have come slowly over time.  The only one that seemed like
a major change was the quitting drinking.  I will probably lose the coffee
slowly as I find alternative liquids.  I am trying out different teas.
The last major hurdle for me now is my teeth.  I am looking forward to that
being done, as I can see from this list that they could very well be the
last dental work I need to get done, if I take CS.  I'm just waiting for my
silver.

I never have taken vitamins until recently, and that sporadically.

We have no dental school any where near me.  Years ago I was, but at the
time I was told they do not take people off of the street.  I guess dental
students must use their friends.

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:wfug...@direcway.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 2:14 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSSmoking prevents lung cancer


Just to clarify, I am the one with the abcesses, I have those due to not
going to the dentist for 10 years, and not brushing right, and eating too
much sugar and bread up until 2 years ago, and being an alcoholic for 12
years (no longer).  My dentist said that I have lots of bacteria right now
until I get all the teeth dealt with.  I have earned these problems over a
long period of time.  Until a very short time ago, I knew nothing about CS,
but have used Hydrogen Peroxide, as it is the only thing that would keep
pain away, and the change in diet allowed me to hold off on the dental work
for a couple years.  The Dental work I need will take 50% of my income for
this year, so that is why it took me so long to deal with it.  Not smoking.

Do you mean, not smoking now or not smoking, ever?

So . with all those great things you were doing for your
health,  it was only nicotine that caused the problem?Surely not?

That is what Dr. Douglass calls junk science and  junk medicine.

Anytime anyone says  This ( A single cause ),  caused that,  it is
usually a false statement.

Many things are poison to sick people, while the same poison would have
little effect on healthy people.

You did not mention anything about your  major mineral intake during
those years.

I  would suspect that during the years of drinking you had deficiencies
of all the minerals and most vitamins.
Sugar and drinking uses up B vitamins, if you had any to use up.   Likely,
between the drinking and poor diet, you had a compromised digestive
system.  A compromised digestion system will undoubtedly have a more
disastrous effect on your health than nicotine.

Acidity of saliva and enzyme production-intake has a direct bearing on
those bacteria.

I think the kind that causes all the problem is anaerobic
bacteria.   Maybe someone can tell us what pH they like the best.

Hopefully you are on the right track today.

By the way, Dentists charge too much. grin  You knew that.  I am
going to the Dental College and getting my work done by graduate
students.  So fat, I have been impressed by the service.  I think they are
more thorough and spend more time.  The cost is 50 to 60 percent of street
prices.

Wayne



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CSEmotional probs / EFT / smoking

2004-02-09 Thread Alene Brandt
I'll second it that EFT works.  I've been using it for over a year now  -and 
it's amazing. There's a huge amount of free info at the site, and also courses 
available for sale (cheap !).  They provide a link to a Dr. Carol Look in NYC 
-who works with addictions.  I bought her manual and used it to quit smoking on 
Jan. 1.  It was the easiest quit I ever done - and I've done many.  It felt 
very different from the very beginning - and it was painless.  I also used EFT 
with a therapist to get rid of a fear of public speaking.   I was asked to do a 
presentation at work, and only had a week to prepare.  I had a life-long 
paralyzing fear removed in one session.  This stuff is life-changing !

Re: CSRe: Lyme

2004-02-09 Thread Jan Stoeten
I have no problem accessing the site.

All the best,
Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands


- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 2:28 AM
Subject: Re: CSRe: Lyme


 Could you kindly check this link?  I get a File not Found message.  
 Thanks.
 
 
 
 
 JBB
 
 
 On Sunday, Feb 8, 2004, at 19:12 Asia/Tokyo, Jan Stoeten wrote:
 
  You may want to visit the following site and download Donald Scott's
  MYCOPLASMA
  The Linking Pathogen in Neurosystemic Diseases at
  http://www.whale.to/v/scott.html. I  know Donald Scott and can 
  personally
  vouch for his unblemished integrity and honesty. Anyone not familiar 
  with
  his work should defenitely become familiar with it. I highly 
  reccommend it.
 
  All the best
  Jan Stoeten
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 6:48 AM
  Subject: CSRe: Lyme
 
 
 
  http://www.rense.com/general48/mutl.htm
 
  Donald Scott says most of them are Mycoplasma Fermentans Incognitus 
  most
  of
  the time.
 
  Somewhere, on an old hard drive, I have  a copy of the patent for it. 
   It
  is
  held by The United States Army.
 
  JOH
 
 
 
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Re: CSRe: Lyme

2004-02-09 Thread Jonathan B. Britten

Here is the correct link:

http://whale.to/m/scott7.html



JBB



On Monday, Feb 9, 2004, at 20:09 Asia/Tokyo, Jan Stoeten wrote:


I have no problem accessing the site.

All the best,
Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands


- Original Message -
From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 2:28 AM
Subject: Re: CSRe: Lyme



Could you kindly check this link?  I get a File not Found message.
Thanks.




JBB


On Sunday, Feb 8, 2004, at 19:12 Asia/Tokyo, Jan Stoeten wrote:


You may want to visit the following site and download Donald Scott's
MYCOPLASMA
The Linking Pathogen in Neurosystemic Diseases at
http://www.whale.to/v/scott.html. I  know Donald Scott and can
personally
vouch for his unblemished integrity and honesty. Anyone not familiar
with
his work should defenitely become familiar with it. I highly
reccommend it.

All the best
Jan Stoeten


- Original Message -
From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 6:48 AM
Subject: CSRe: Lyme




http://www.rense.com/general48/mutl.htm

Donald Scott says most of them are Mycoplasma Fermentans Incognitus
most

of

the time.

Somewhere, on an old hard drive, I have  a copy of the patent for 
it.

 It

is

held by The United States Army.

JOH



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Re: CSRe: Lyme

2004-02-09 Thread Jan Stoeten
This is not really the correct link. The original link I proposed (
http://www.whale.to/v/scott.html )  would bring the viewer to a biographical
sketch of Donald Scott, introducing him/her to Scott's degree of
credibility. Knowing who your author is creates an added dimension to the
document. On this page are links to the respective article(s).

All the best,
Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands

- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: CSRe: Lyme


 Here is the correct link:

 http://whale.to/m/scott7.html



 JBB



 On Monday, Feb 9, 2004, at 20:09 Asia/Tokyo, Jan Stoeten wrote:

  I have no problem accessing the site.
 
  All the best,
  Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 2:28 AM
  Subject: Re: CSRe: Lyme
 
 
  Could you kindly check this link?  I get a File not Found message.
  Thanks.
 
 
 
 
  JBB
 
 
  On Sunday, Feb 8, 2004, at 19:12 Asia/Tokyo, Jan Stoeten wrote:
 
  You may want to visit the following site and download Donald Scott's
  MYCOPLASMA
  The Linking Pathogen in Neurosystemic Diseases at
  http://www.whale.to/v/scott.html. I  know Donald Scott and can
  personally
  vouch for his unblemished integrity and honesty. Anyone not familiar
  with
  his work should defenitely become familiar with it. I highly
  reccommend it.
 
  All the best
  Jan Stoeten
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 6:48 AM
  Subject: CSRe: Lyme
 
 
 
  http://www.rense.com/general48/mutl.htm
 
  Donald Scott says most of them are Mycoplasma Fermentans Incognitus
  most
  of
  the time.
 
  Somewhere, on an old hard drive, I have  a copy of the patent for
  it.
   It
  is
  held by The United States Army.
 
  JOH
 
 
 
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Re: CSsilver in carbon block water filters

2004-02-09 Thread TJ Garland

British Berkfield makes one also



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RE: CSEmotional Problems and Shrinks

2004-02-09 Thread TJ Garland
I could not agree more. My first wife was a shrink. She was paranoid, 
obsessive  compulsive, and spent money faster than she and I could earn it.  
At the end, I told her her profession should be called mental 
masturbation.  I may be paranoid --but am I paranoid enough? I deserve a 
seat in Heaven by God for the 21 years I tried to hold it together.




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From: Wayne Fugitt wfug...@direcway.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSEmotional Problems and Shrinks
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 08:14:59 -0600

Morning Nancy,


http://www.emofree.com
The website has lots of testimonies and a free tutorial to download.  Many
areas of health can be affected by the emotions.


  I did spend a few minutes on the site.  It is well done and has lots of 
information that would be of value to some people.


  However, I feel that it is like most treatments, it is treating the 
symptoms, not the cause.
Most people that I know who have emotional problems of any kind, are 
generally unfocused people who have nothing to do but count flowers on the 
wall.


The other class have chemical disorders within the body.  In either case, 
the root cause must be addressed.


If the unfocused people had more work to do,  a task list a mile long, 
enough energy to tackle these tasks, they would have little time to worry 
about emotions.


I have few friends who study the mind and how people think and function.  I 
prefer to call them
shrinks.  Most of these guys are as weird as their patients. One was a 
relative.  When I visited him last,
he went into  a trance as he was deciding what a weird freak I am.  I saw 
it. We were sitting at a table when I showed them a manifold block I 
designed that required 44 drilling operations and 24 tapping operations.


Until then, he though I was only the redneck he had known many years ago.  
I was the only one that saw and noticed his reactions. While it may have 
been only a few seconds, it seemed like a long time for him to disappear 
from the world he was in.


Still, I agree it fills a need for some people.

My favorite non-conventional, non-conformist, doctor, Dr. W. C. Douglass, 
damns the psychiatrist profession more than any other.


Basically, he claims they treat people for a lifetime, claim they can never 
get well, and insure that they don't by using drugs and avoiding the proper 
treatment of the root cause of their disorder.


I know. I have some mental problems too.  However, I am too busy to 
worry about them and don't give a nickle about what others think of my 
mental state or emotional problems.


My state of a tranquil mind has kept me happy for years and reasonably 
healthy.  grin


Wayne



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RE: CSSmoking prevents lung cancer

2004-02-09 Thread TJ Garland

It is OK.



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RE: CSSmoking prevents lung cancer

2004-02-09 Thread TJ Garland
It would be worth spending $3 for a paperback called  Money By The 
Mouthfull  by Robert Nara before you begin.




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From: Wayne Fugitt wfug...@direcway.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSSmoking prevents lung cancer
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 15:13:57 -0600




Just to clarify, I am the one with the abcesses, I have those due to not
going to the dentist for 10 years, and not brushing right, and eating too
much sugar and bread up until 2 years ago, and being an alcoholic for 12
years (no longer).  My dentist said that I have lots of bacteria right now
until I get all the teeth dealt with.  I have earned these problems over a
long period of time.  Until a very short time ago, I knew nothing about 
CS,

but have used Hydrogen Peroxide, as it is the only thing that would keep
pain away, and the change in diet allowed me to hold off on the dental 
work

for a couple years.  The Dental work I need will take 50% of my income for
this year, so that is why it took me so long to deal with it.  Not 
smoking.


   Do you mean, not smoking now or not smoking, ever?

   So . with all those great things you were doing for your health,  
it was only nicotine that caused the problem?Surely not?


   That is what Dr. Douglass calls junk science and  junk medicine.

   Anytime anyone says  This ( A single cause ),  caused that,  it is 
usually a false statement.


   Many things are poison to sick people, while the same poison would have 
little effect on healthy people.


   You did not mention anything about your  major mineral intake during 
those years.


   I  would suspect that during the years of drinking you had deficiencies 
of all the minerals and most vitamins.
Sugar and drinking uses up B vitamins, if you had any to use up.   Likely, 
between the drinking and poor diet, you had a compromised digestive system. 
 A compromised digestion system will undoubtedly have a more disastrous 
effect on your health than nicotine.


   Acidity of saliva and enzyme production-intake has a direct bearing on 
those bacteria.


   I think the kind that causes all the problem is anaerobic bacteria.   
Maybe someone can tell us what pH they like the best.


   Hopefully you are on the right track today.

   By the way, Dentists charge too much. grin  You knew that.  I am 
going to the Dental College and getting my work done by graduate students.  
So fat, I have been impressed by the service.  I think they are more 
thorough and spend more time.  The cost is 50 to 60 percent of street 
prices.


   Wayne



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Re: CSRe: Lyme

2004-02-09 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
I stand corrected.   Oddly, the link you provided opens now, whereas 
previously, only the other one opened, at least with my navigator.


Apologies, and thanks again for the excellent link.   I have read 
Scott's material before, and it is sobering indeed.


BTW, one of the owners of SOTA Instruments, in Canada,  got interested 
in the Beck protocol precisely because she could not recover from 
chronic fatigue syndrome despite consultations with many doctors. 
Her reported success may suggest that Mr. Scott might want to know more 
about electromedicine if he does not already.


Lesley Punt of SOTA  used to write more about this topic, but FDA 
pressure may have made it difficult even to discuss medical uses of the 
Beck devices.





JBB




On Monday, Feb 9, 2004, at 20:47 Asia/Tokyo, Jan Stoeten wrote:


This is not really the correct link. The original link I proposed (
http://www.whale.to/v/scott.html )  would bring the viewer to a 
biographical

sketch of Donald Scott, introducing him/her to Scott's degree of
credibility. Knowing who your author is creates an added dimension to 
the

document. On this page are links to the respective article(s).

All the best,
Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands

- Original Message -
From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: CSRe: Lyme



Here is the correct link:

http://whale.to/m/scott7.html



JBB



On Monday, Feb 9, 2004, at 20:09 Asia/Tokyo, Jan Stoeten wrote:


I have no problem accessing the site.

All the best,
Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands


- Original Message -
From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 2:28 AM
Subject: Re: CSRe: Lyme



Could you kindly check this link?  I get a File not Found message.
Thanks.




JBB


On Sunday, Feb 8, 2004, at 19:12 Asia/Tokyo, Jan Stoeten wrote:

You may want to visit the following site and download Donald 
Scott's

MYCOPLASMA
The Linking Pathogen in Neurosystemic Diseases at
http://www.whale.to/v/scott.html. I  know Donald Scott and can
personally
vouch for his unblemished integrity and honesty. Anyone not 
familiar

with
his work should defenitely become familiar with it. I highly
reccommend it.

All the best
Jan Stoeten


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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 6:48 AM
Subject: CSRe: Lyme




http://www.rense.com/general48/mutl.htm

Donald Scott says most of them are Mycoplasma Fermentans 
Incognitus

most

of

the time.

Somewhere, on an old hard drive, I have  a copy of the patent for
it.
 It

is

held by The United States Army.

JOH



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RE: CSEmotional Problems and Shrinks

2004-02-09 Thread Wayne Fugitt

Morning TJ,

Often I think I am alone in the world due to my way of thinking.

At 07:25 AM 2/9/04 -0500, you wrote:
I could not agree more. My first wife was a shrink. She was paranoid, 
obsessive  compulsive, and spent money faster than she and I could earn it.


   Then... others state their view and I realize I am not as 
irrational as the majority thinks me to be.



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Re: CScolloidal gold and zinc: generator claim

2004-02-09 Thread Ode Coyote


  You go , Frank.

 I see all sort of particle size assertions 'out there' but nothing at all
to back them up.
 It's not hard to figure why that is.
 Assertions make $$$
  Backing them up costs $$$
..and quite often reduces the assertions considerably.
 [Not to mention the crow pie factor]

 Then comes the temptation to spin the results at a very high RPM with
confusing language.

Ode

At 01:28 PM 2/8/2004 -0500, you wrote:
Ode Coyote wrote:

 Solution strengths up to 200 PPM can be made or higher. Particle size is
limited to .001 micron no matter how strong the solution gets so there is
never a problem with 'current runaway'.

 ## I don't see how one controls the other...small particles means no
current run away?  How?
 Is that particle size theoretical or actual?
  I'd like to see some documentation before I believe that claim.


I will offer to measure the particle size distribution and share the results
with this list if someone will send me a sample of this solution.

frank key



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Re: CSWalgreen Ultrasonic Humidifier

2004-02-09 Thread Ode Coyote
  Expose a white paper towel to the mist  till it is saturated, then let it
dry.
 If the towel turns brownish upon drying, silver ions are in the mist. If
the CS is very strong, the towel will turn very brown.
 This doesn't tell you if particles are making it through, but most home
made CS is mostly ionic.

Ode



At 05:26 PM 2/8/2004 -0700, you wrote:
Heather,

The filter is really a wick for transporting the liquid up to the
ultrasonically vibrating screen.  I don't believe it has any charcoal in it,
but instead relies on the high density (small pores) construction of the
wick to filter out larger particles.  I believe the wick has very little
filtering ability for the tiny silver colloids.  Perhaps someone has
actually run tests to see if this is true.  There is no easy way to bypass
the wick/filter.  If you have a good sense of taste, you should be able to
detect the metallic CS by letting the mist impinge on your tongue.

--Steve Y.

- Original Message -
From: Heather King (LCA) heath...@microsoft.com
To: Richard Harris yr...@cfl.rr.com; silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 3:56 PM
Subject: CSWalgreen Ultrasonic Humidifier


 Hi Richard (and list),

 I purchased the $20 Personal Ultrasonic Humidifier from Walgreen the other
day, but I noticed in trying to set up the process that it has a charcoal
filter as part of the uptake. Did you encounter this and if so, did you just
leave it in place? I wonder about it filtering out all the CS/DMSO/MSM. On
the other hand it is easily removable, but then there is no way so siphon up
the mixture, since the filter portion reaches down into the reservoir.
Without the filter, there is no reach. If you know what I'm referring to,
can you recommend a way to bypass the little filter? Perhaps plastic tubing?
I have the receipt  could take it back, but I really like the size (
price) so if I can find a way to rearrange it that would be the best thing.
If you changed it to suit you, I'd like to know how you did it. :o)

 Thanks for any suggestions,
 Heather King


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CStaking supplements

2004-02-09 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Thora said:
 I never have taken vitamins until recently, and that
sporadically.

Actually, although vitamins are important, they are
used by the body to utilize minerals (plus other
functions). We are MADE of minerals.

Some years ago I searched the net to find a good
source of minerals. My criteria was that I wanted a
supplement that contained as many minerals as possible
(a comprehensive mineral formula), that was liquid
(the most assimilable form), that was organic minerals
(as opposed to metallic minerals) and that was
reasonably priced.

I found a dozen companies (at least) that claimed to
sell such a product. I bought from a number of them,
drank it like water and observed my body's response.

Only two of the products I tested on myself had any
affect on me. The rest had as much affect as if I was
just drinking lemonade (in fact, I think in some of
them, that IS all I was drinking!).

The two products were a liquid mineral supplement
offered by a multi-level company called New Vision.
They recommended you drink one ounce per day (one
bottle per month), but I found that it didn't really
improve things until you drank 2 - 4 ounces per day.
At $36 per bottle (Canadian), that added up pretty
quick. The other product is called Concentrace, sold
by a company called Trace Minerals Research, in Utah.
They are NOT multi-level, and turn out to be the most
economical mineral product I've seen on the market.
Also the most comprehensive mineral supplement I've
found. Concentrace contains every single mineral
needed by the human body (well over 100). (Since these
minerals are in trace amounts, this is not a good
supplement to fill your calcium needs, or any other
macro-minerals.) It is also the most concentrated
mineral supplement on the market. The recommended
daily dose is 1/4 tsp, 2xday. Of course, you can
exceed that dose and benefit even more. I have clients
who ingest one tsp, 2xday. They tell me they do this
because they have so demineralized their bodies in the
last 30 or more years that they want to put it back as
fast as possible.

80% of my clients tell me that they experience
noticeable health improvements within 24 hours after
starting Concentrace (usually improved digestion and
regularity, among other things).

I approached this company and asked them if I could
buy from them wholesale to sell to my clients (who are
ALL demineralized). They told me they ONLY sell to
Health Food stores. I kept bugging them, and finally
got a chance to meet with the owner of the Canadian
distribution company. He finally agreed to sell to me,
and he tells me I am the only private individual in
Canada who is allowed to buy from them (but I also
sell more of their product than many HF stores!).

Call all the HF stores around you and ask if they
carry it. I can sell it to you, but a HF store will
sell it cheaper. (I am required to price it higher
than a HF store so I am not competing with them.) Even
so, a 3-month supply is only $30.

I have an article I can send to those who request it
which explains the part minerals play in our health. I
am told it is quite interesting and informative. (It
is, but I am trying to be humble.)

Thora, it sounds like, among other things, that you
could benefit from a program to remineralize your
body. I would highly recommend you acquire some
Concentrace for this purpose.

Terry Chamberlin, B.Sc., C.N.C., Bioanalyst
Metabolic Solutions Institute
RR1
Lawrencetown, Nova Scotia B0S 1M0 Canada
902-584-3810 voice/message
413-826-7641 fax service
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RE: CSGatorade/CS/Candida (Robert)Anodes in Water heaters

2004-02-09 Thread Ode Coyote
  COOL!

Now I know where to get magnesium rods for nuttin.
handy critters!
Ode

At 07:07 PM 2/8/2004 -0700, you wrote: 

All domestic storage water heaters made today have a magnesium rod about 3/4 inch diameter and about 3 feet long suspended vertically from the top by a pipe fitting (boss).  The purpose is to allow any electrochemical currents available to the system to dissolve the magnesium (higher electornegativity than either Iron or copper) instead of the tank or piping, that are the def acto cathode.
  
JOH
-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 7:22 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Gatorade/CS/Candida (Robert)

Why would a gas water heater have an anode? It's just a tank with a dimpled exhaust pipe running up the center and a flame underneath.
Tanks are glass lined..confirmed. It's a pain in the neck to make other things like wood stoves out of water heater tanks.
Having attempted to repair many old copper water pipes, it's not uncommon to find them so thin they have to be replaced. Not sure why. Usually it's good mineral free well water run through them. 
Mineral high water generally encrusts the inside.

ode



At 02:38 PM 2/2/2004 -0500, you wrote: 

James Holmes wrote: 
The sacrificial anode in both gas and electric fired water heaters is made of mostly magnesium. 

True. 

Being more electrically active, it corrodes in place of the steel tank. 

But most hot water heaters are glass lined. So I have understood this. 

Marshall 



JOH 
-Original Message- 
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com>mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 10:09 AM 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CS>Gatorade/CS/Candida (Robert) 
I believe he is referring to the heater. It has tungsten in it I believe, but should be fully encased in a ceramic. Since he specifies electric hot water heater, that is the only thing that is there in addition to what a gas one would have. 

Marshall 

James Holmes wrote: 
Re:Do not use the hot water from an electric hot water heater for cooking or drinking. It has tungsten.Do your mean magnesium? If not, where does the tungsten originate?JOH 
-Original Message- 
From: Ken  Nancy Bagwell [mailto:kenancy2...@yahoo.com>mailto:kenancy2...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 6:31 PM 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: RE: CS>Gatorade/CS/Candida (Robert)
Hi Robert, You might have a point there, Ole... Do not use the hot water from an electric hot water heater for cooking or drinking. It has tungsten. Do not drink water that sits in glazed crock ware (the glaze seeps toxic elements like cadmium) like some water dispensers have. Do not buy water from your health food store that runs through a long plastic hose from their bulk tank (I always see cesium picked up from flexible clear plastic). Also ask them how and when they clean their tank. Best is to observe that it is done with non-toxic methods. 

If your house is more than 10 years old, change all the galvanized pipe to PVC plastic. Although PVC is a toxic substance, amazingly, the water is free of PVC in three weeks! If your house has copper pipes don't wait for cancer or schizophrenia to claim a family member. Change all the copper pipe to PVC plastic immediately. If the pipes are not accessible, ask a plumber to lay an extra line, outside the walls. This is less expensive, too. If you have a water softener, by-pass it immediately and replace the metal pipe on the user side of the softener tank. Softener salts are polluted with strontium and chromate; they are also full of aluminum. The salts corrode the pipes so the pipes begin to seep cadmium into the water. After changing your pipes to plastic, there will be so little iron and hardness left, you may not need a softener. If the water comes from a well, consider changing the well-pipe to PVC to get rid of iron. While the well is open, have the pump checked for ! PC! BS. Call the Health Department to arrange the testing. If you must have softening after all this, check into the new magnetic varieties of water softener (although they only work well when used with plastic plumbing).- http://www.drclark.net/info/home.htm>http://www.drclark.net/info/home.htm Dr. Clark started the meeting by stating the she was very happy and that she wanted to share some of her latest findings with us and also that she needed our help. Dr. Clark is very concerned about our municipal water supply in the United States. She has found 5 substances in our water that can inhibit the immune system and feels this contributes largely to diseases such as Cancer and AIDS. Full recovery from either Cancer or AIDS is likely only with pure, unpolluted water to drink. For those of us not suffering from such conditions, our livers and kidneys can filter out some of these pollutants for a while, but we would eventually be at risk also. 

The five substances polluting our 

CSblood

2004-02-09 Thread Shirley Reed
   High dose Vitamin C seems to be extremely good for any and everything, 
so the child's parents may consider immediately starting him on as many grams 
per day of crystalline Vit. C as possible.  When diarhhea begins, simply reduce 
the dosage by 500 mg. per day until diarrhea stops; then continue at that 
dosage.  When diarrhea begins again, just reduce the dosage by 500 mg. again, 
then continue at that dosage, and keep up this regimen until he is well.  Of 
course, he should also be taking a complete vitamin and mineral supplement as 
well.  This is just my understanding of the bowel tolerance Vit. C approach.  
Won't hurt to do this until you decide what elso to do.   Very best wishespj


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Re: CSEmotional probs / EFT / smoking

2004-02-09 Thread Marmar845
In a message dated 2/9/04 5:47:50 AM EST, thr...@nbn.net writes:

 I'll second it that EFT works. 

What is EFT, please?   MA


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Re: CSa Dimensionless Quantity

2004-02-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
LOL, yep, had the finger on the wrong key.

Marshall

missett wrote:

 Did you mean 331/3?

 Never was a 22.3.

 - Original Message -
 From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 9:04 AM
 Subject: Re: CSa Dimensionless Quantity

  Yes, I have reported several times in the past that putting the container
 on an
  old record player turntable and spinning at 22 1/3 RPM should work fine.
 
  Marshall
 
  Thora Rasmussen wrote:
 
   Just a thought from someone who knows nothing about making electronic
   equipment, but would making the container move work to move the liquid
   around rather than adding something into the liquid?
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com]
   Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 8:29 AM
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Subject: Re: CSa Dimensionless Quantity
  
   Ode Coyote wrote:
  
   
I can't seem to find one that's small enough and isn't made to operate
   submerged.
  
   Try Grainer.  That is where we got the pump we use. We got one of the
   magnetic ones since there is nothing to contact and contaminate the
 water or
   leak. Also since they are centrifical pumps, you put the output through
 a
   flow meter
   and can then adjust the flow rate from 0 up to the full flow of the
 pump.
  
   
Then comes reliability problems with moving parts wearing out or
 becoming
   corroded in a wet environment..and operator abuse/neglect.
  
   Not with these pumps. I have produced over 1,000 gallons with one of
 these
   pumps with no problem, and all the material exposed to the water is
 plastic,
   so no corrosion.
  
   
   
The ideal design would eliminate all those factors and still work
   perfectly and uniformly under any conditions with any sized
 container...plus
   include the engineers creed KISS [keep it simple stupid..and..keep it
   inexpensive?]
   
A smallish gravity fed flow-through reaction chamber might be a way to
 go.
  
   Gravity feed would also work for a flow through system.  Flow through
 works
   great with HVAC, that is what I use.
  
   Marshall
  
   
   
Ode
   
At 01:20 PM 2/3/2004 -0500, you wrote:

   
 Hi again, Ode,
   
 Come to think of it, there is a way to sidestep
 the problem of by-product build-up altogether.
 The dimensionless quantity, a ratio of differences
 of resistances, need not be taken across the
 reaction electrodes. A third and fourth silver
 electrodes can by put in the vessel just for
 measurement purposes. It would be easy to
 switch back and forth between the two pairs using
 a modification of a full-wave rectifier bridge circuit.
   
 Matthew
   

   
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CSAnodes in Water heaters

2004-02-09 Thread Trem
Ken,

When I was a kid and tried making black powder using sulphur, saltpeter and 
charcoal I discovered the magnesium rod and used a file to get a lot of 
raspings from it.  I combined them with the black powder.  Whew, does it ever 
get more powerful!

Trem
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ode Coyote 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 7:10 AM
  Subject: [silver_list] RE: CSGatorade/CS/Candida (Robert)Anodes in Water 
heaters


  COOL!

  Now I know where to get magnesium rods for nuttin.
  handy critters!
  Ode

  At 07:07 PM 2/8/2004 -0700, you wrote: 
  

All domestic storage water heaters made today have a magnesium rod about 
3/4 inch diameter and about 3 feet long suspended vertically from the top by a 
pipe fitting (boss). The purpose is to allow any electrochemical currents 
available to the system to dissolve the magnesium (higher electornegativity 
than either Iron or copper) instead of the tank or piping, that are the def 
acto cathode.

JOH


  -Original Message-
  From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net] 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 7:22 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSGatorade/CS/Candida (Robert)

  Why would a gas water heater have an anode? It's just a tank with a 
dimpled exhaust pipe running up the center and a flame underneath.
  Tanks are glass lined..confirmed. It's a pain in the neck to make other 
things like wood stoves out of water heater tanks.
  Having attempted to repair many old copper water pipes, it's not uncommon 
to find them so thin they have to be replaced. Not sure why. Usually it's good 
mineral free well water run through them. 
  Mineral high water generally encrusts the inside.

  ode



  At 02:38 PM 2/2/2004 -0500, you wrote: 
  

James Holmes wrote: 

  The sacrificial anode in both gas and electric fired water heaters is 
made of mostly magnesium. 

  True. 

  Being more electrically active, it corrodes in place of the steel 
tank. 

  But most hot water heaters are glass lined. So I have understood 
this. 

  Marshall 



  JOH 

-Original Message- 
From: Marshall Dudley 
[mailto:mdud...@execonn.commailto:mdud...@execonn.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 10:09 AM 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CSGatorade/CS/Candida (Robert) 
I believe he is referring to the heater. It has tungsten in it I 
believe, but should be fully encased in a ceramic. Since he specifies electric 
hot water heater, that is the only thing that is there in addition to what a 
gas one would have. 

Marshall 

James Holmes wrote: 

  Re:Do not use the hot water from an electric hot water heater 
for cooking or drinking. It has tungsten.Do your mean magnesium? If not, where 
does the tungsten originate?JOH 

-Original Message- 
From: Ken  Nancy Bagwell 
[mailto:kenancy2...@yahoo.commailto:kenancy2...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 6:31 PM 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: RE: CSGatorade/CS/Candida (Robert)
Hi Robert, You might have a point there, Ole... Do not use the 
hot water from an electric hot water heater for cooking or drinking. It has 
tungsten. Do not drink water that sits in glazed crock ware (the glaze seeps 
toxic elements like cadmium) like some water dispensers have. Do not buy water 
from your health food store that runs through a long plastic hose from their 
bulk tank (I always see cesium picked up from flexible clear plastic). Also ask 
them how and when they clean their tank. Best is to observe that it is done 
with non-toxic methods. 

If your house is more than 10 years old, change all the 
galvanized pipe to PVC plastic. Although PVC is a toxic substance, amazingly, 
the water is free of PVC in three weeks! If your house has copper pipes don't 
wait for cancer or schizophrenia to claim a family member. Change all the 
copper pipe to PVC plastic immediately. If the pipes are not accessible, ask a 
plumber to lay an extra line, outside the walls. This is less expensive, too. 
If you have a water softener, by-pass it immediately and replace the metal pipe 
on the user side of the softener tank. Softener salts are polluted with 
strontium and chromate; they are also full of aluminum. The salts corrode the 
pipes so the pipes begin to seep cadmium into the water. After changing your 
pipes to plastic, there will be so little iron and hardness left, you may not 
need a softener. If the water comes from a well, consider changing the 
well-pipe to PVC to get rid of iron. While the well is open, have the pump 
checked for ! PC! BS. Call the Health Department to arrange the testing. If you 
must have softening after all this, check 

Re: CSHV Gen

2004-02-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
It is really rather simple.  First I recommend using a 15 KV
transformer, the loaded voltage is 2/3 the open voltage, and the best
loaded voltage is 10 KV.  Then put a meter in series with the output of
the transformer to monitor current and a meter across the transformer to
monitor voltage. I used some cheap Radio Shack 1 mA meters, and put a
full wave bride around them, then shunted the current meter with the
appropriate resistance to calibrate in mA, and put 7 1 meg resistors in
series with the voltage meter on one side, and 8 1 meg resistores on the
other side, to calibrate this meter in voltage.

Then run the voltage to your silver electrodes using anode wire for a TV
set or monitor.  Mount the electrodes so that they are either slightly
above the water if you are wanting to use the method CSPro uses, or put
them inside glass tubes with about 1/8 exposed and submerge if you are
wanting to run submerged.

Be very careful with this, these things can shock the heck out of you, I
have gotten bit several times with mine.

Marshall

Julius Kabrun wrote:

 Greetings to all, From reading  I  get the impression that a HV neon
 transformer ( 10/12k V 25ma ) would produce the smallest Silver
 particle size etc.   I have searched  cannot find plans to make such
 a generator.  Could someone be so kind as to email me plans 
 instructions  to ju...@worldonline.co.za Thanking you in
 anticipation,Julius Kabrun.


Re: CSEmotional probs / EFT / smoking

2004-02-09 Thread Garnet
It is an accupressure method for clearing traumatic memories, whose
unresolved legacy causes many emotional and mental distractions.

It is based on the work of Dr Roger Callahan and others who discovered
the power of accupressure stimulation of various points while recallling
and correcting traumatic memories. Simple put it works like no other
therapy, is self administered and the initial manula offered at
www.emofree.com is free.

When someone condemns something without being familiar with it or having
tried it, well it is a little like those who condemn CS without knowing
what they are talking about.

Garnet

On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 10:36, marmar...@aol.com wrote:
 In a message dated 2/9/04 5:47:50 AM EST, thr...@nbn.net writes:
 
  I'll second it that EFT works. 
 
 What is EFT, please?   MA
 
 
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Re: CSblood

2004-02-09 Thread Garnet
Unless you are pregnant. High doses of Vit C will spike your estrogen
levels and cause abortion, particularly early in pg. When I was pg I was
told not to exceed 1,000mg per day, even though I was used to taking
4,000 mg per day.

I know of a method of self induce abortion that utilizes up to 20,000 mg
per day. I have checked it out with an abortion physician that I once
knew. She agreed, it clearly does cause abortion in early term
pregnancies.

Garnet

On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 09:52, Shirley Reed wrote:
High dose Vitamin C seems to be extremely good for any and
 everything, so the child's parents may consider immediately starting
 him on as many grams per day of crystalline Vit. C as possible.  When
 diarhhea begins, simply reduce the dosage by 500 mg. per day until
 diarrhea stops; then continue at that dosage.  When diarrhea begins
 again, just reduce the dosage by 500 mg. again, then continue at that
 dosage, and keep up this regimen until he is well.  Of course, he
 should also be taking a complete vitamin and mineral supplement as
 well.  This is just my understanding of the bowel tolerance Vit. C
 approach.  Won't hurt to do this until you decide what elso to do.  
 Very best wishespj
 
 
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CSnasal spray bottles

2004-02-09 Thread Sandy . Green
Hi
 
I presently have available -White  Nasal Spray Bottles, 30ml; 4 components = 
squeeze bottle, inner tube, nose plug, cap.  
 
Minimum order  is 25 units.  Cost is .75 each + shipping costs.
 
Please email me privately regarding information.
 
 
Have a great day!
 
Sandy
 
 


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Re: CSEye Formulation Question

2004-02-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
Also, flaxseed oil has been reported to cure cataracts rather quickly by
simply putting a drop in the eye a few times a day for a few days.

Marshall

Wayne Fugitt wrote:

 In the Feb issue of Second Opinion by  Dr. Robert J. Rowen, he has some
 interesting comments about an eye formula that has helped some people with
 cataracts.

 He even states that he uses this himself for prevention and eye
 health.   The formula is simple and listed below.

 DMSO   6.25 percent

 Vitamin C   1.25 percent

 Glutathione  1.25 percent

 The question is, what is the remaining percent of 91.25 percent
 ?  Distilled Water?

 He lists only one source and phone number.   Dollar Drug or Santa Rosa,
 707-575-1313

 I had rather mix this myself than to buy it.

 Can anyone suggest the exact form of Vitamin C and Glutathione?Why not
 use some CS in this blend?

 I keep a spray bottle of CS in my pocket.  When out working in buildings
 that contain people and people spaces such as offices and dorms,  I
 typically spray both the eyes and nose a few times per day.

 I am not paranoid about catching a bacteria  or virus.  I am doing this
 somewhat as a test to see how long I can go without getting sick or
 catching a bug.

 I know this won't help the larger bugs or spiders.

 Wayne

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CSNasal Spray bottles - correction

2004-02-09 Thread Sandy . Green
Sorry - they are 50 ml not 30 ml.
 
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Re: CSGatorade/CS/Candida

2004-02-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
Actaully the problem with silver citrate is that it was reported in one paper
that the citrate allowed the silver to cross the blood brain barrier.  The
information I have been able to find is contradictory as to whether this a good
or bad, but there are reports that silver in the brain can cuase neurological
problems.

Marshall

Tad Winiecki wrote:

 ---  Marshall wrote-
   I agree, I don't like food coloring either. I remember when this was
 first posted, some of us went looking for a substitute.  One thing we
 looked at was Pediolite, but quickly discovered that it had ant poison
 (aspertame) in it, which is far worse than any of the dyes.  Seem when I
 checked recently, they had removed that, but can't say for sure. 

 I checked our electrolyte drink mix, Electromix from Alacer.  I thought it
 might work better than Gatorade as it doesn't have sugar or color, but the
 minerals are in the form of citrates and I remember reading a post saying
 Silver combines with citric acid to make Ag citrate which can cause
 argyria, like Ag acetates and Ag nitrates.  I haven't looked at a Gatorade
 bottle to see what form their minerals are in.  Or would it have to contact
 citric acid itself instead of Potassium, Calcium, or Magnesium citrate
 since they would already be in the combined form?

 Nancy

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RE: CStaking supplements

2004-02-09 Thread Thora Rasmussen
I have been searching for information on our bodies requirements for
vitamins, minerals and trace minerals.  The information I have so far found
has been very sketchy and conflicted.  I do understand that the RDI
currently used are probably incorrect.  I have been trying to find what our
body really needs, and which can be taken in larger doses.  For me the ideal
would be food based, and I will adjust my diet accordingly.  I truly believe
food is medicine.  However, I would certainly be open to vitamins where I
would be unable to eat enough in a day.  Another thing I am really looking
for is info on what happens to vitamins in the cooking, canning and freezing
process, so I can compensate properly.  I am also interested in juicing, and
have found a juicer that stays cool (it won't fit the budget yet, maybe by
next fall), but I am curious about which vitamins make it through the juicer
and which end up in the pulp, and if there is a way to get the pulp into me
or does it just have to get thrown out.

I would be interested in any info you can send me, and any links as well.
And don't worry about sending me too much info, as this is the main focus of
my spare time, and I love to read and learn.

I will send this not to you personally and to the group, but feel free to
email me privately with info if you prefer.

-Original Message-
From: Terry Chamberlin [mailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca]
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 8:04 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CStaking supplements


Thora said:
 I never have taken vitamins until recently, and that
sporadically.

Actually, although vitamins are important, they are
used by the body to utilize minerals (plus other
functions). We are MADE of minerals.

Some years ago I searched the net to find a good
source of minerals. My criteria was that I wanted a
supplement that contained as many minerals as possible
(a comprehensive mineral formula), that was liquid
(the most assimilable form), that was organic minerals
(as opposed to metallic minerals) and that was
reasonably priced.

I found a dozen companies (at least) that claimed to
sell such a product. I bought from a number of them,
drank it like water and observed my body's response.

Only two of the products I tested on myself had any
affect on me. The rest had as much affect as if I was
just drinking lemonade (in fact, I think in some of
them, that IS all I was drinking!).

The two products were a liquid mineral supplement
offered by a multi-level company called New Vision.
They recommended you drink one ounce per day (one
bottle per month), but I found that it didn't really
improve things until you drank 2 - 4 ounces per day.
At $36 per bottle (Canadian), that added up pretty
quick. The other product is called Concentrace, sold
by a company called Trace Minerals Research, in Utah.
They are NOT multi-level, and turn out to be the most
economical mineral product I've seen on the market.
Also the most comprehensive mineral supplement I've
found. Concentrace contains every single mineral
needed by the human body (well over 100). (Since these
minerals are in trace amounts, this is not a good
supplement to fill your calcium needs, or any other
macro-minerals.) It is also the most concentrated
mineral supplement on the market. The recommended
daily dose is 1/4 tsp, 2xday. Of course, you can
exceed that dose and benefit even more. I have clients
who ingest one tsp, 2xday. They tell me they do this
because they have so demineralized their bodies in the
last 30 or more years that they want to put it back as
fast as possible.

80% of my clients tell me that they experience
noticeable health improvements within 24 hours after
starting Concentrace (usually improved digestion and
regularity, among other things).

I approached this company and asked them if I could
buy from them wholesale to sell to my clients (who are
ALL demineralized). They told me they ONLY sell to
Health Food stores. I kept bugging them, and finally
got a chance to meet with the owner of the Canadian
distribution company. He finally agreed to sell to me,
and he tells me I am the only private individual in
Canada who is allowed to buy from them (but I also
sell more of their product than many HF stores!).

Call all the HF stores around you and ask if they
carry it. I can sell it to you, but a HF store will
sell it cheaper. (I am required to price it higher
than a HF store so I am not competing with them.) Even
so, a 3-month supply is only $30.

I have an article I can send to those who request it
which explains the part minerals play in our health. I
am told it is quite interesting and informative. (It
is, but I am trying to be humble.)

Thora, it sounds like, among other things, that you
could benefit from a program to remineralize your
body. I would highly recommend you acquire some
Concentrace for this purpose.

Terry Chamberlin, B.Sc., C.N.C., Bioanalyst
Metabolic Solutions Institute
RR1
Lawrencetown, Nova Scotia B0S 1M0 Canada
902-584-3810 

Re: CSAnodes in Water heaters: For Trem

2004-02-09 Thread Bruce Anderson
Hey Trem;
Isn't that thermite?  Well, maybe add some iron filings.
-- 
Bruce Anderson


Quoting Trem t...@silvergen.com:

 Ken,
 
 When I was a kid and tried making black powder using sulphur, saltpeter and
 charcoal I discovered the magnesium rod and used a file to get a lot of
 raspings from it.  I combined them with the black powder.  Whew, does it ever
 get more powerful!
 
 Trem
   - Original Message - 
   From: Ode Coyote 
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
   Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 7:10 AM
   Subject: [silver_list] RE: CSGatorade/CS/Candida (Robert)Anodes in Water
 heaters
 
 
   COOL!
 
   Now I know where to get magnesium rods for nuttin.
   handy critters!
   Ode
 
   At 07:07 PM 2/8/2004 -0700, you wrote: 
   
 
 All domestic storage water heaters made today have a magnesium rod about
 3/4 inch diameter and about 3 feet long suspended vertically from the top by
 a pipe fitting (boss). The purpose is to allow any electrochemical currents
 available to the system to dissolve the magnesium (higher electornegativity
 than either Iron or copper) instead of the tank or piping, that are the def
 acto cathode.
 
 JOH
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net] 
   Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 7:22 AM
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Subject: Re: CSGatorade/CS/Candida (Robert)
 
   Why would a gas water heater have an anode? It's just a tank with a
 dimpled exhaust pipe running up the center and a flame underneath.
   Tanks are glass lined..confirmed. It's a pain in the neck to make other
 things like wood stoves out of water heater tanks.
   Having attempted to repair many old copper water pipes, it's not
 uncommon to find them so thin they have to be replaced. Not sure why. Usually
 it's good mineral free well water run through them. 
   Mineral high water generally encrusts the inside.
 
   ode
 
 
 
   At 02:38 PM 2/2/2004 -0500, you wrote: 
   
 
 James Holmes wrote: 
 
   The sacrificial anode in both gas and electric fired water heaters
 is made of mostly magnesium. 
 
   True. 
 
   Being more electrically active, it corrodes in place of the steel
 tank. 
 
   But most hot water heaters are glass lined. So I have understood
 this. 
 
   Marshall 
 
 
 
   JOH 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Marshall Dudley
 [mailto:mdud...@execonn.commailto:mdud...@execonn.com] 
 Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 10:09 AM 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Subject: Re: CSGatorade/CS/Candida (Robert) 
 I believe he is referring to the heater. It has tungsten in it I
 believe, but should be fully encased in a ceramic. Since he specifies
 electric hot water heater, that is the only thing that is there in addition
 to what a gas one would have. 
 
 Marshall 
 
 James Holmes wrote: 
 
   Re:Do not use the hot water from an electric hot water heater
 for cooking or drinking. It has tungsten.Do your mean magnesium? If not,
 where does the tungsten originate?JOH 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Ken  Nancy Bagwell
 [mailto:kenancy2...@yahoo.commailto:kenancy2...@yahoo.com] 
 Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 6:31 PM 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Subject: RE: CSGatorade/CS/Candida (Robert)
 Hi Robert, You might have a point there, Ole... Do not use
 the hot water from an electric hot water heater for cooking or drinking. It
 has tungsten. Do not drink water that sits in glazed crock ware (the glaze
 seeps toxic elements like cadmium) like some water dispensers have. Do not
 buy water from your health food store that runs through a long plastic hose
 from their bulk tank (I always see cesium picked up from flexible clear
 plastic). Also ask them how and when they clean their tank. Best is to
 observe that it is done with non-toxic methods. 
 
 If your house is more than 10 years old, change all the
 galvanized pipe to PVC plastic. Although PVC is a toxic substance, amazingly,
 the water is free of PVC in three weeks! If your house has copper pipes don't
 wait for cancer or schizophrenia to claim a family member. Change all the
 copper pipe to PVC plastic immediately. If the pipes are not accessible, ask
 a plumber to lay an extra line, outside the walls. This is less expensive,
 too. If you have a water softener, by-pass it immediately and replace the
 metal pipe on the user side of the softener tank. Softener salts are polluted
 with strontium and chromate; they are also full of aluminum. The salts
 corrode the pipes so the pipes begin to seep cadmium into the water. After
 changing your pipes to plastic, there will be so little iron and hardness
 left, you may not need a softener. If the water comes from a well, consider
 changing 

RE: CStaking supplements

2004-02-09 Thread Dan Nave
Rather than merely attaching the urls, I took the liberty of attaching some 
posts about using Kelp as a mineral source.  Lots of good info in the attached 
posts even though they are a bit out of order.




RE: CStaking supplements

 From: Thora Rasmussen wrote:
 Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 10:06:55 

I have been searching for information on our bodies requirements for
vitamins, minerals and trace minerals. 

Re: CSOT: Semi-coherent Ramblings KELP DOSAGES.

 From: Brooks Bradley (view other messages by this author) 
 Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:56:16 

http://www.escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m61224.html

  Dear List members,
I have received a blizzard of requests, off-line for 
details/suggestions on what dosages for general use.  Following is a 
brief response to Jules, which I hope will be adequate for most of the 
inquiries.  I believe there is small reason to consider
kelp as a mass-related supplement.  That is, I feel the quantities I 
consume (I weigh 180 lbs, 6' 2 in height) are just as applicable to a 
120 personas for me.  I know of a Japanese acquaintance who has 
consumed fresh kelp by the POUND on a daily basis.for many years, 
with nothing but splendid results.  
  Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.

  Dear Jules,

  I take one heaping tablespoon, mixed with one heaping tablespoon of
granulated lecithin, twice daily.  The only truly acceptable technique
(for me) is to place both in the mouth, simultaneously and mix with
enough water to form a slurry by swishing aroundnext, just wash down
progressively with a glass of water.  The lecithin is a natural
emulsifier and enables a smooth passage of the composite mixture.
Attempting to take a heaping tablespoon of granulated kelp---alone---is
quite challenging, as kelp is quite hygroscopic.
   I have used liquid kelp as a foliar fertilizer for 25 years.  It
has proven to be an excellent amendmentfor all classes of plants.
Actually, my best protocol involves the combination of liquid kelp (I
use Maxicrop, primarily because it is very soluble, is a
reliable/repeatable product), H202 and black molasses.  One effective
mix includes 2 ounces of concentrated (liquid)kelp diluted in one gallon
of water, together with one cup of unprocessed molasses and two ounces
of 3.5% hydrogen peroxide.  Using a
conventional garden sprayer adjusted to coarse mistcover the foliage
to the point of moisture run-off.
   Kelp is excellent for rabbits.  An easy method of supplying it is
through using the liquid kelp at about one teaspoon per ½ gallon of
drinking water.supplied free choice for your rabbits.
Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.
p.s.  The best bargain is found through purchasing the water soluble
powder, rather than the pre-packaged liquid form.   

wwen...@aol.com wrote:
  Brooks,
 
  Thorvin kelp is an excellent value.  What dosage do you use for
  consumption?  Do you have experience using it on the garden?  Why is it
  not recommended for rabbits?  (my only livestock).
 
  Thanks for everything,
 
  Jules

Re: CSOT: Semi-coherent Ramblings

 From: Brooks Bradley (view other messages by this author) 
 Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 09:35:57 

http://www.escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m61175.html

Dear Frank,
Yes, we have had some 8 different sources of kelp subjected to full 
spectrum analysis (about 5 years ago).  All of them contained 
microscopic quantities  of arsenic, mercury, and lead.  However, only 
one contained levels high enough to be considered biologically 
significant  (1.0 ppb mercury, .5 ppb lead, and .75 ppb arsenic).  The 
actual analyses were conducted by one of our better equipped commercial 
labs in the area.  A single source proved to be, almost, cleanto 
the extent that it contained very small traces of these metals.  The 
percentages were, essentially, below that of open sea values (being in 
the low fractional region of parts per billion).  That source was 
Thorvin kelp, gathered and dehydrated by a firm in Iceland.  We have, 
for many years, utilized this, specific, substance in many human 
volunteer-based trials.  Some years ago, during a series of large animal 
feeding evaluations, we conducted some tests in an attempt to determine 
the acceptable levels of these...and several othertoxic metals that 
naturally occur in the environment.  One surprising revelation was that 
the occurrence of arsenic in a sequestered biological environment 
(organic sources of animal feed) was, almost, an order of magnitude less 
toxicthan the isolated metal fraction itself.  We did not pursue a 
definitive answer as to the exact cause or mechanismat the time... 
and consider it beyond our purview at present.
  What I relate is from memory, and somewhat faulty at best. 
However, Additionally, I do not have at hand any of the research 
details.and it would be a challenge to retrieve them.  It can be 
done, but not 

RE: CSEmotional probs / EFT / smoking

2004-02-09 Thread James Holmes
Dr. Bruce Marx, of Csprosystems speaks highly of EFT.  He also says it is so
simple, that few people believe that it could possibly work. 

JOH

-Original Message-
From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 10:25 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSEmotional probs / EFT / smoking


It is an accupressure method for clearing traumatic memories, whose
unresolved legacy causes many emotional and mental distractions.

It is based on the work of Dr Roger Callahan and others who discovered the
power of accupressure stimulation of various points while recallling and
correcting traumatic memories. Simple put it works like no other therapy,
is self administered and the initial manula offered at www.emofree.com is
free.

When someone condemns something without being familiar with it or having
tried it, well it is a little like those who condemn CS without knowing what
they are talking about.

Garnet

On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 10:36, marmar...@aol.com wrote:
 In a message dated 2/9/04 5:47:50 AM EST, thr...@nbn.net writes:
 
  I'll second it that EFT works. 
 
 What is EFT, please?   MA
 
 
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Re: CSGatorade/CS/Candida

2004-02-09 Thread sol
So why is it good to mix EIS with Gatorade or similar then? As Gatorade 
contains citric acid, doesn't that mean at least some silver citrate is 
formed when the two are mixed? I have been taking Gatorade/EIS mix and 
it does seem to be more effective, as far as I can tell.

paula

Marshall Dudley wrote:


Actaully the problem with silver citrate is that it was reported in one paper
that the citrate allowed the silver to cross the blood brain barrier.  The
information I have been able to find is contradictory as to whether this a good
or bad, but there are reports that silver in the brain can cuase neurological
problems.

Marshall

Tad Winiecki wrote:

 


---  Marshall wrote-
 I agree, I don't like food coloring either. I remember when this was
first posted, some of us went looking for a substitute.  One thing we
looked at was Pediolite, but quickly discovered that it had ant poison
(aspertame) in it, which is far worse than any of the dyes.  Seem when I
checked recently, they had removed that, but can't say for sure. 

I checked our electrolyte drink mix, Electromix from Alacer.  I thought it
might work better than Gatorade as it doesn't have sugar or color, but the
minerals are in the form of citrates and I remember reading a post saying
Silver combines with citric acid to make Ag citrate which can cause
argyria, like Ag acetates and Ag nitrates.  I haven't looked at a Gatorade
bottle to see what form their minerals are in.  Or would it have to contact
citric acid itself instead of Potassium, Calcium, or Magnesium citrate
since they would already be in the combined form?

Nancy

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Re: CSEye Formulation Question

2004-02-09 Thread Jack Dayton
TJ Garland   2/8/04 5:25 AM  Wrote:

 Did someone a couple months ago recommend  a drop of flaxseed oil in each
 eye twice a day for cataracts?

Yes they did, I tried it, it stings.

I don't do that anymore.

I don't remember whose idea it was.

Jack

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RE: CStaking supplements

2004-02-09 Thread Garnet
Kelp has a high level of Arsenate. Look at www.solidgoldhealth.com 's
Seaweed blend. It is balanced for the high arsenate content of kelp
alone.

Garnet

On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 13:05, Dan Nave wrote:
 Rather than merely attaching the urls, I took the liberty of attaching some 
 posts about using Kelp as a mineral source.  Lots of good info in the 
 attached posts even though they are a bit out of order.
 
 
 
 
 RE: CStaking supplements
 
  From: Thora Rasmussen wrote:
  Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 10:06:55 
 
 I have been searching for information on our bodies requirements for
 vitamins, minerals and trace minerals. 
 
 Re: CSOT: Semi-coherent Ramblings KELP DOSAGES.
 
  From: Brooks Bradley (view other messages by this author) 
  Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:56:16 
 
 http://www.escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m61224.html
 
   Dear List members,
 I have received a blizzard of requests, off-line for 
 details/suggestions on what dosages for general use.  Following is a 
 brief response to Jules, which I hope will be adequate for most of the 
 inquiries.  I believe there is small reason to consider
 kelp as a mass-related supplement.  That is, I feel the quantities I 
 consume (I weigh 180 lbs, 6' 2 in height) are just as applicable to a 
 120 personas for me.  I know of a Japanese acquaintance who has 
 consumed fresh kelp by the POUND on a daily basis.for many years, 
 with nothing but splendid results.  
   Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.
 
   Dear Jules,
 
   I take one heaping tablespoon, mixed with one heaping tablespoon of
 granulated lecithin, twice daily.  The only truly acceptable technique
 (for me) is to place both in the mouth, simultaneously and mix with
 enough water to form a slurry by swishing aroundnext, just wash down
 progressively with a glass of water.  The lecithin is a natural
 emulsifier and enables a smooth passage of the composite mixture.
 Attempting to take a heaping tablespoon of granulated kelp---alone---is
 quite challenging, as kelp is quite hygroscopic.
I have used liquid kelp as a foliar fertilizer for 25 years.  It
 has proven to be an excellent amendmentfor all classes of plants.
 Actually, my best protocol involves the combination of liquid kelp (I
 use Maxicrop, primarily because it is very soluble, is a
 reliable/repeatable product), H202 and black molasses.  One effective
 mix includes 2 ounces of concentrated (liquid)kelp diluted in one gallon
 of water, together with one cup of unprocessed molasses and two ounces
 of 3.5% hydrogen peroxide.  Using a
 conventional garden sprayer adjusted to coarse mistcover the foliage
 to the point of moisture run-off.
Kelp is excellent for rabbits.  An easy method of supplying it is
 through using the liquid kelp at about one teaspoon per ½ gallon of
 drinking water.supplied free choice for your rabbits.
 Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.
 p.s.  The best bargain is found through purchasing the water soluble
 powder, rather than the pre-packaged liquid form.   
 
 wwen...@aol.com wrote:
   Brooks,
  
   Thorvin kelp is an excellent value.  What dosage do you use for
   consumption?  Do you have experience using it on the garden?  Why is it
   not recommended for rabbits?  (my only livestock).
  
   Thanks for everything,
  
   Jules
 
 Re: CSOT: Semi-coherent Ramblings
 
  From: Brooks Bradley (view other messages by this author) 
  Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 09:35:57 
 
 http://www.escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m61175.html
 
 Dear Frank,
 Yes, we have had some 8 different sources of kelp subjected to full 
 spectrum analysis (about 5 years ago).  All of them contained 
 microscopic quantities  of arsenic, mercury, and lead.  However, only 
 one contained levels high enough to be considered biologically 
 significant  (1.0 ppb mercury, .5 ppb lead, and .75 ppb arsenic).  The 
 actual analyses were conducted by one of our better equipped commercial 
 labs in the area.  A single source proved to be, almost, cleanto 
 the extent that it contained very small traces of these metals.  The 
 percentages were, essentially, below that of open sea values (being in 
 the low fractional region of parts per billion).  That source was 
 Thorvin kelp, gathered and dehydrated by a firm in Iceland.  We have, 
 for many years, utilized this, specific, substance in many human 
 volunteer-based trials.  Some years ago, during a series of large animal 
 feeding evaluations, we conducted some tests in an attempt to determine 
 the acceptable levels of these...and several othertoxic metals that 
 naturally occur in the environment.  One surprising revelation was that 
 the occurrence of arsenic in a sequestered biological environment 
 (organic sources of animal feed) was, almost, an order of magnitude less 
 toxicthan the isolated metal fraction itself.  We did not pursue a 
 definitive answer as to the exact cause 

RE: CSEmotional probs / EFT / smoking

2004-02-09 Thread Garnet
Kinda like CS and DMSO - smile

Garnet

On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 13:06, James Holmes wrote:
 Dr. Bruce Marx, of Csprosystems speaks highly of EFT.  He also says it is so
 simple, that few people believe that it could possibly work. 
 
 JOH
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net] 
 Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 10:25 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSEmotional probs / EFT / smoking
 
 
 It is an accupressure method for clearing traumatic memories, whose
 unresolved legacy causes many emotional and mental distractions.
 
 It is based on the work of Dr Roger Callahan and others who discovered the
 power of accupressure stimulation of various points while recallling and
 correcting traumatic memories. Simple put it works like no other therapy,
 is self administered and the initial manula offered at www.emofree.com is
 free.
 
 When someone condemns something without being familiar with it or having
 tried it, well it is a little like those who condemn CS without knowing what
 they are talking about.
 
 Garnet
 
 On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 10:36, marmar...@aol.com wrote:
  In a message dated 2/9/04 5:47:50 AM EST, thr...@nbn.net writes:
  
   I'll second it that EFT works. 
  
  What is EFT, please?   MA
  
  
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  silver.
  
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Re: CSEmotional probs / EFT / smoking

2004-02-09 Thread Marmar845
In a message dated 2/9/04 12:30:30 PM EST, garnetri...@earthlink.net writes:

 When someone condemns something without being familiar with it or having
 tried it 

Garnet, thank you for the information about EFT and the web addy for it.  Is 
someone condemning it?  MA


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Re: CSGatorade/CS/Candida

2004-02-09 Thread Marmar845
In a message dated 2/9/04 1:13:47 PM EST, mdud...@execonn.com writes:

 Actaully the problem with silver citrate is that it was reported in one 
paper
 that the citrate allowed the silver to cross the blood brain barrier.  

It was my understanding that all electro-colloidal silver crosses the 
blood-brain barrier, because the particles are so small.  For those of us 
treating 
EPM in horses, this is definitely a good thing because the protozoa that we are 
trying to kill resides in the cells of the CNS.  I've never heard before that 
silver in the brain can CAUSE neurological problems.  I would appreciate any 
elaboration on these subjects -- crossing the blood-brain barrier and causing 
neurological problems.  Thanks.   MA


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Re: CSEye Formulation Question

2004-02-09 Thread Marmar845
In a message dated 2/9/04 1:36:20 PM EST, mdud...@execonn.com writes:

 
 Also, flaxseed oil has been reported to cure cataracts rather quickly by
 simply putting a drop in the eye a few times a day for a few days. 

Really?  Is this ordinary flaxseed oil that one would purchase at a health 
food store?  Do you have any background information on this?   Thanks.  MA


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Re: CSEye Formulation Question

2004-02-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
marmar...@aol.com wrote:

 In a message dated 2/9/04 1:36:20 PM EST, mdud...@execonn.com writes:

 
  Also, flaxseed oil has been reported to cure cataracts rather quickly by
  simply putting a drop in the eye a few times a day for a few days. 

 Really?  Is this ordinary flaxseed oil that one would purchase at a health
 food store?

Yes.

 Do you have any background information on this?

It seems that at least some types of cataracts are caused by solid fatty 
deposits
in the lens, sort of like Crisco.  Anyway, the flaxseed oil dissolved it out, 
and
the lens clears up quite quickly.  Check the archives here for more information.

Marshall

 Thanks.  MA

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CSMSM

2004-02-09 Thread Thora Rasmussen
I just got some MSM and would like to know how to use it.  Does anyone have
advice or a group that deals with this.

Thora


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RE: CSEmotional Problems and Shrinks

2004-02-09 Thread Stuff


No, you're definitely not alone.

Many times I think, It's not my planet. I'm just passin' thru.

Go to the OT site, if you're not a subscriber, and check out The Myth of 
Being Open Minded that

I posted a few days ago.

stuff

At 07:24 AM 2/9/2004 -0600, you wrote:

Morning TJ,

Often I think I am alone in the world due to my way of thinking.

At 07:25 AM 2/9/04 -0500, you wrote:
I could not agree more. My first wife was a shrink. She was paranoid, 
obsessive  compulsive, and spent money faster than she and I could earn it.


   Then... others state their view and I realize I am not as 
irrational as the majority thinks me to be.



Wayne


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Re: CSAnodes in Water heaters

2004-02-09 Thread Stuff


I did almost exactly the same thing but I used commercial powdered 
magnesium, as I remember.


I'll confirm that extra power.

At 09:03 AM 2/9/2004 -0800, you wrote:

Ken,

When I was a kid and tried making black powder using sulphur, saltpeter 
and charcoal I discovered the magnesium rod and used a file to get a lot 
of raspings from it.  I combined them with the black powder.  Whew, does 
it ever get more powerful!


Trem
- Original Message -
From: mailto:coyote...@earthlink.netOde Coyote
To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 7:10 AM
Subject: [silver_list] RE: CSGatorade/CS/Candida (Robert)Anodes in Water 
heaters


COOL!

Now I know where to get magnesium rods for nuttin.
handy critters!
Ode

At 07:07 PM 2/8/2004 -0700, you wrote:

?fontfamily?param Arial?color?param ,,?smallerAll 
domestic storage water heaters made today have a magnesium rod about 3/4 
inch diameter and about 3 feet long suspended vertically from the top by a 
pipe fitting (boss). The purpose is to allow any electrochemical currents 
available to the system to dissolve the magnesium (higher 
electornegativity than either Iron or copper) instead of the tank or 
piping, that are the def acto cathode.

?/smaller?/color?/fontfamily
?fontfamily?param Arial?color?param ,,?smallerJOH
?/smaller?/color?/fontfamily

?fontfamily?param Tahoma?smaller-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 7:22 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSGatorade/CS/Candida (Robert)

?/smaller?/fontfamilyWhy would a gas water heater have an anode? It's 
just a tank with a dimpled exhaust pipe running up the center and a flame 
underneath.
Tanks are glass lined..confirmed. It's a pain in the neck to make other 
things like wood stoves out of water heater tanks.
Having attempted to repair many old copper water pipes, it's not uncommon 
to find them so thin they have to be replaced. Not sure why. Usually it's 
good mineral free well water run through them.

Mineral high water generally encrusts the inside.

ode



At 02:38 PM 2/2/2004 -0500, you wrote:

James Holmes wrote:
The sacrificial anode in both gas and electric fired water heaters is made 
of mostly magnesium.


True.

Being more electrically active, it corrodes in place of the steel tank.

But most hot water heaters are glass lined. So I have understood this.

Marshall



JOH
-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley 
[mailto:mdud...@execonn.commailto:mdud...@execonn.com]

Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 10:09 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSGatorade/CS/Candida (Robert)
I believe he is referring to the heater. It has tungsten in it I believe, 
but should be fully encased in a ceramic. Since he specifies electric hot 
water heater, that is the only thing that is there in addition to what a 
gas one would have.


Marshall

James Holmes wrote:
Re:Do not use the hot water from an electric hot water heater for cooking 
or drinking. It has tungsten.Do your mean magnesium? If not, where does 
the tungsten originate?JOH

-Original Message-
From: Ken  Nancy Bagwell 
[mailto:kenancy2...@yahoo.commailto:kenancy2...@yahoo.com]

Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 6:31 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSGatorade/CS/Candida (Robert)
Hi Robert, You might have a point there, Ole... Do not use the hot water 
from an electric hot water heater for cooking or drinking. It has 
tungsten. Do not drink water that sits in glazed crock ware (the glaze 
seeps toxic elements like cadmium) like some water dispensers have. Do not 
buy water from your health food store that runs through a long plastic 
hose from their bulk tank (I always see cesium picked up from flexible 
clear plastic). Also ask them how and when they clean their tank. Best is 
to observe that it is done with non-toxic methods.


If your house is more than 10 years old, change all the galvanized pipe to 
PVC plastic. Although PVC is a toxic substance, amazingly, the water is 
free of PVC in three weeks! If your house has copper pipes don't wait for 
cancer or schizophrenia to claim a family member. Change all the copper 
pipe to PVC plastic immediately. If the pipes are not accessible, ask a 
plumber to lay an extra line, outside the walls. This is less expensive, 
too. If you have a water softener, by-pass it immediately and replace the 
metal pipe on the user side of the softener tank. Softener salts are 
polluted with strontium and chromate; they are also full of aluminum. The 
salts corrode the pipes so the pipes begin to seep cadmium into the water. 
After changing your pipes to plastic, there will be so little iron and 
hardness left, you may not need a softener. If the water comes from a 
well, consider changing the well-pipe to PVC to get rid of iron. While the 
well is open, have the pump checked for ! PC! BS. Call the Health 
Department to arrange the testing. If you must 

Re: CSSmoking prevents lung cancer

2004-02-09 Thread Jack Dayton
Thora Rasmussen   2/9/04 2:01 AM  Wrote:

 I never have taken vitamins until recently, and that sporadically.
*
That is a major mistake, and needs instant rethinking.

How-in-hell can your body keep you well
if you don't give it the tools needed to do so ?

If you are willing to listen to an ex drunk,
ex smoker who is nearly 75, then do so off list
at :   jack...@my.address.org

Jack

Be Nice

PS if you can find a copy of Adele Davis'
LETS EAT RIGHT TO KEEP FIT
and / or LETS GET WELL,  they will
be excellent sources to find out WHY
you need to supplement.


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Re: CSSmoking prevents lung cancer

2004-02-09 Thread sol

Jack and all,
 Adelle Davis' books, many of them long out of prin,t can be found at 
used bookstores, I got a replacement copy of Let's Cook it Right, at 
either alibris or Borders, I think. This cookbook is still my best 
source for basic food chemistry.  Lot of people made fun of her ideas 
for a lot of years, but she is having the last laugh, from wherever she 
is now.

 Let's Eat Right to Keep Fit is still in print, or was a couple years ago.
paula



Jack Dayton wrote:


Thora Rasmussen   2/9/04 2:01 AM  Wrote:

 


I never have taken vitamins until recently, and that sporadically.
   


*
That is a major mistake, and needs instant rethinking.

How-in-hell can your body keep you well
if you don't give it the tools needed to do so ?

If you are willing to listen to an ex drunk,
ex smoker who is nearly 75, then do so off list
at :   jack...@my.address.org

Jack

Be Nice

PS if you can find a copy of Adele Davis'
LETS EAT RIGHT TO KEEP FIT
and / or LETS GET WELL,  they will
be excellent sources to find out WHY
you need to supplement.


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Re: CSEye Formulation Question

2004-02-09 Thread Marmar845
In a message dated 2/9/04 3:40:07 PM EST, mdud...@execonn.com writes:

 It seems that at least some types of cataracts are caused by solid fatty 
deposits
 in the lens, sort of like Crisco.  

Would that also be true for dogs?  And do you think that flax-seed oil would 
help them?   MA


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Re: CSEye Formulation Question

2004-02-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
I am pretty sure that one of the messages on this in the archives is from
someone who tried it successfully with their dog.

Marshall

marmar...@aol.com wrote:

 In a message dated 2/9/04 3:40:07 PM EST, mdud...@execonn.com writes:

  It seems that at least some types of cataracts are caused by solid fatty
 deposits
  in the lens, sort of like Crisco.  

 Would that also be true for dogs?  And do you think that flax-seed oil would
 help them?   MA

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Re: CSOT to some. Mobil and Exxon Gas

2004-02-09 Thread The Hatzfeld's
This old thing has been around for about 2 years.  I think it's too simplistic 
to say since a product you are using costs more than you would like you then 
get others to help boycott it.  I don't know where the hatred of oil companies 
come from.  My dad worked for Mobil for 40 years and was friends with men from 
other companies since we lived overseas.  They were all good, hard-working and 
honest men.   

Looking at the process of bringing the gasoline to us starts with the oil 
companies hiring competent and educated professionals like geologists and 
engineers to locate the oil, then building the drills and refineries to process 
it.  Then the oil companies have a variety of different countries they have to 
deal with in order to just do business.  Did you know some years ago that many 
of the countries where oil is drilled nationalized and so they were legally 
able to steal ALL of the oil companies equipment?  I'd bet they still have 
occasions where they must deal with corruption.  When the oil is ready for 
shipment, it's brought over in a tanker and distributed to eventually be sold 
at your local gas station.  All things considered, we're not paying that much 
for the gas.  Of course we'd all like to pay less for goods  services - just 
bought my first bottle of CS at the health food store costs more (2 oz. for 
$14) - let's get real here.  

Cindy 

RE: CSSmoking prevents lung cancer

2004-02-09 Thread Richard Harris
Hi Thora,

I'm glad you're realizing that everyone needs to eat the proper foods in the
proper quantity wisely,exercise and take a few good supplements. Also, if
you're NOT aware of Mercola.com, click on it and sign up for his excellent
FREE weekly newsletter. He has a new NO GRAIN DIET that my wife are
beginning with good, encouraging results so far.

Please reply to Jack (below) for some words of experience and wisdom. Check
my Site: www.rharrisinc.com If I can be of help let me know.

Sincerely,
Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist


-Original Message-
From: Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com]
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 4:56 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSmoking prevents lung cancer


Thora Rasmussen   2/9/04 2:01 AM  Wrote:

 I never have taken vitamins until recently, and that sporadically.
*
That is a major mistake, and needs instant rethinking.

How-in-hell can your body keep you well
if you don't give it the tools needed to do so ?

If you are willing to listen to an ex drunk,
ex smoker who is nearly 75, then do so off list
at :   jack...@my.address.org

Jack

Be Nice

PS if you can find a copy of Adele Davis'
LETS EAT RIGHT TO KEEP FIT
and / or LETS GET WELL,  they will
be excellent sources to find out WHY
you need to supplement.


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Re: CSSmoking prevents lung cancer

2004-02-09 Thread Jack Dayton
sol   2/9/04 2:22 PM  Wrote:

 Lot of people made fun of her ideas
 for a lot of years, but she is having the last laugh, from wherever she
 is now.
*
I vaguely remember that Davis and  Pauling
were at war about the proper form of Vitamin C
back in the '60s. 

I believe that Adele hastened her death with
a killing lecture schedule, AND  - never, in anything
that I read by her, did she even remotely suggest
that mind power might be able to influence our
health in a positive way.

Jack

Be Nice


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RE: CStaking supplements

2004-02-09 Thread SilverTedEBear
Hi Thora,

A good friend of mine had a book about this very
subject.  I don't know what it was titled or who the
author was but I jotted down a number of things in the
amounts he suggests we need to be healthy as opposed
to the RDA which is what we need to keep from being
sick.  I just ran across the list last week as I was
straightening up (no small chore).  When I get home I
will pull it out and try and get it posted in a day or
so.

Ted

--- Thora Rasmussen muggies-at-rockies.net
|SilverList| eiuths53n...@sneakemail.com wrote:
 I have been searching for information on our bodies
 requirements for
 vitamins, minerals and trace minerals.  The
 information I have so far found
 has been very sketchy and conflicted.  I do
 understand that the RDI
 currently used are probably incorrect.  I have been
 trying to find what our
 body really needs, and which can be taken in larger
 doses.  For me the ideal
 would be food based, and I will adjust my diet
 accordingly.  I truly believe
 food is medicine.  However, I would certainly be
 open to vitamins where I
 would be unable to eat enough in a day.  Another
 thing I am really looking
 for is info on what happens to vitamins in the
 cooking, canning and freezing
 process, so I can compensate properly.  I am also
 interested in juicing, and
 have found a juicer that stays cool (it won't fit
 the budget yet, maybe by
 next fall), but I am curious about which vitamins
 make it through the juicer
 and which end up in the pulp, and if there is a way
 to get the pulp into me
 or does it just have to get thrown out.
 
 I would be interested in any info you can send me,
 and any links as well.
 And don't worry about sending me too much info, as
 this is the main focus of
 my spare time, and I love to read and learn.
 
 I will send this not to you personally and to the
 group, but feel free to
 email me privately with info if you prefer.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Terry Chamberlin [mailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca]
 Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 8:04 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CStaking supplements
 
 
 Thora said:
  I never have taken vitamins until recently, and
 that
 sporadically.
 
 Actually, although vitamins are important, they are
 used by the body to utilize minerals (plus other
 functions). We are MADE of minerals.
 
 Some years ago I searched the net to find a good
 source of minerals. My criteria was that I wanted a
 supplement that contained as many minerals as
 possible
 (a comprehensive mineral formula), that was liquid
 (the most assimilable form), that was organic
 minerals
 (as opposed to metallic minerals) and that was
 reasonably priced.
 
 I found a dozen companies (at least) that claimed to
 sell such a product. I bought from a number of them,
 drank it like water and observed my body's response.
 
 Only two of the products I tested on myself had any
 affect on me. The rest had as much affect as if I
 was
 just drinking lemonade (in fact, I think in some of
 them, that IS all I was drinking!).
 
 The two products were a liquid mineral supplement
 offered by a multi-level company called New Vision.
 They recommended you drink one ounce per day (one
 bottle per month), but I found that it didn't really
 improve things until you drank 2 - 4 ounces per day.
 At $36 per bottle (Canadian), that added up pretty
 quick. The other product is called Concentrace, sold
 by a company called Trace Minerals Research, in
 Utah.
 They are NOT multi-level, and turn out to be the
 most
 economical mineral product I've seen on the market.
 Also the most comprehensive mineral supplement I've
 found. Concentrace contains every single mineral
 needed by the human body (well over 100). (Since
 these
 minerals are in trace amounts, this is not a good
 supplement to fill your calcium needs, or any other
 macro-minerals.) It is also the most concentrated
 mineral supplement on the market. The recommended
 daily dose is 1/4 tsp, 2xday. Of course, you can
 exceed that dose and benefit even more. I have
 clients
 who ingest one tsp, 2xday. They tell me they do this
 because they have so demineralized their bodies in
 the
 last 30 or more years that they want to put it back
 as
 fast as possible.
 
 80% of my clients tell me that they experience
 noticeable health improvements within 24 hours after
 starting Concentrace (usually improved digestion and
 regularity, among other things).
 
 I approached this company and asked them if I could
 buy from them wholesale to sell to my clients (who
 are
 ALL demineralized). They told me they ONLY sell to
 Health Food stores. I kept bugging them, and finally
 got a chance to meet with the owner of the Canadian
 distribution company. He finally agreed to sell to
 me,
 and he tells me I am the only private individual in
 Canada who is allowed to buy from them (but I also
 sell more of their product than many HF stores!).
 
 Call all the HF stores around you and ask if they
 carry it. I can sell it to you, but a HF store will
 

Re: CSSmoking prevents lung cancer

2004-02-09 Thread David S Osborne
There are numerous copies of these books [most for $1]
listed thru ABEBOOKS.COM
davido

On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 15:22:50 -0700 sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com writes:
 Jack and all,
   Adelle Davis' books, many of them long out of prin,t can be found 
 at 
 used bookstores, I got a replacement copy of Let's Cook it Right, at 
 
 either alibris or Borders, I think. This cookbook is still my best 
 source for basic food chemistry.  Lot of people made fun of her 
 ideas 
 for a lot of years, but she is having the last laugh, from wherever 
 she 
 is now.
   Let's Eat Right to Keep Fit is still in print, or was a couple 
 years ago.
 paula
 
  
 
 Jack Dayton wrote:
 
 Thora Rasmussen   2/9/04 2:01 AM  Wrote:
 
   
 
 I never have taken vitamins until recently, and that 
 sporadically.
 
 
 *
 That is a major mistake, and needs instant rethinking.
 
 How-in-hell can your body keep you well
 if you don't give it the tools needed to do so ?
 
 If you are willing to listen to an ex drunk,
 ex smoker who is nearly 75, then do so off list
 at :   jack...@my.address.org
 
 Jack
 
 Be Nice
 
 PS if you can find a copy of Adele Davis'
 LETS EAT RIGHT TO KEEP FIT
 and / or LETS GET WELL,  they will
 be excellent sources to find out WHY
 you need to supplement.
 
 
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CScancel ALL FURTHER INFORMATION ON CS

2004-02-09 Thread Grant Overby

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To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 4:03 PM
Subject: silver-digest Digest V2004 #129

PLEASE  CANCEL  FORWARDING  ANY  E-MAILS  TO  ME  ON  COLLOIDAL  SILVER.
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   THANK  YOU

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Re: CSSmoking prevents lung cancer/CHANGE THE HEADER!

2004-02-09 Thread Nenah Sylver

- Original Message - 
From: David S Osborne ide...@juno.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: CSSmoking prevents lung cancer


 There are numerous copies of these books [most for $1]
 listed thru ABEBOOKS.COM
 davido

Smoking prevents lung cancer Hey folks, can we retire this old chestnut?

Thanks will be forthcoming, I'm sure, from future folks who search the archives.

Nenah



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CSeye formulation

2004-02-09 Thread Shirley Reed
Someone recommended 2 drops of good oil ( I use clear, organic flax  
Barlean's-not the high lignan one) for dry eyes, and it worked really well for 
me.  I also use cs with dmso added(30 drops per 4 oz. of cs) and it is good 
too.  Don't know about cataracts.  And yes, the oil stings a bit, but not very 
much and the dry eyes were gone in a few days time.  I used it off and on for 
several weeks, and now don't have to use it anymore, at least, not for a long 
time.   pj


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CSMethods of Eating on the Road to Health

2004-02-09 Thread Wayne Fugitt

Evening Thora,

 I have been trying to find what our body really needs, and which can be 
taken in larger doses.  For me the ideal would be food based, and I will 
adjust my diet accordingly.


From reading all your posts, it sounds like you are very serious, and 
ready to make the commitment.


You realize this is much like getting married or joining the Army, there is 
no way back. grin


I can't give you the solution, but I can give you part of the plan to 
finding the solution.  Learning too much, too fast can be confusing.   The 
goal is to simplify the complex decisions.


You must simplify food, drink, vitamins, and minerals.  You don't want to 
spend years, not even months studying and worrying before you begin to make 
decisions that are beneficial to your health.


Eliminate all unhealthy drinks.  You can't go wrong with water, and lots of it.

I tell my friends, No mater what ails you, you will never get well unless 
you drink enough water.   Since I started drinking enough water, I have 
not had a headache, eye strain, low energy and have not taken even an 
aspirin for a good number of years.  Plus, I lost near 50 pounds of excess 
weight.


Start eliminating all bad foods.  You know what they are.  Unless a food 
offers a few nutrients, simply don't eat it.


As you do this, think about the good foods that you like.  Buy a good 
quantity and keep them nearby at all times.
Having good food such as nuts, seeds, and raw vegetables within reach keeps 
you from eating worthless and dead food.  Read a book about enzymes.


Try to eat a number of foods each day that are high in fat such as brazil 
nuts, sunflower seed or pumpkin seeds, pecans and almonds.  Almonds is a 
food that is little criticized.  I realize some may have chemicals and 
pesticides.
Today I ordered 7 pounds of sunflower seeds and 10 pounds of trailmix. 
Everything raw, nothing cooked in this mix.


Eat less cooked food and more raw food.  Study the hazards of cooked food. 
Eliminate as much of it as you can.


Eat very little food from cans,  ZERO if possible.

Shop your complete trade area for the best fruit and produce.  Be very 
selective.  Surely there are several fruits that you like.  I eat apples, 
bananas, oranges, grapefruit, nuts, raisins, prunes, and coconut.


Forget eating three meals per day.  Eat as often as you like. If you will 
increase your metabolism rate you can eat more food.  This of course 
provided more nutrients.  I suspect my grandfathers ate 3 to ten times the 
total calories per day as I do.   So, they ingested many more nutrients. 
They did not have to worry about supplements.
Some of them lived to be 80 years old. My mother lived to 91.5 and she ate 
very, very, simple.


By eating smaller meals, more often, the digestion is better and works the 
body less.  I have read that the greatest stress we place on the body is 
eating a large meal, especially a large meal of cooked food.


Ensure that the digestion system is working perfect. If any digestive 
problems exist, address them first with

enzymes and probiotics.

Don't think this an ordeal, or that you will be hungry or feel bad.  I find 
I feel much better when I don't even eat meals.  An ounce or two of 
concentrated food, or a few more ounces of less concentrated food, several 
times a day will make you feel like a million dollars all day long, often 
for 20 to 24 hours.


I could write many more ideas but that should get you started.  You have to 
select the vitamins and minerals.


While I have hundreds of different supplements within reach, some days I 
eat so good, I don't even worry about the supplements. Typically, I change 
my supplements each week, except for C and E.


You may find it hard to believe, but the only times I have felt bad in 
several years is after eating a full meal of cooked food.  I mean slightly 
below par, I have no digestive problems, and have a better digestive system 
than anyone I know.


This is telling me what I need to do. About a year ago,  made a 5 day trip 
to Texas. During those 5 days, I only ate cooked food 3 times.  Two meals 
of the 3 was fried eggs and sausage.  The other was a catfish dinner.


And. I did not even suggest that you eat raw eggs like I do.

Don't forget to study the hazards of cooked food.

Finally, one of the greatest advantages of being healthy is that you can 
eat anything you want to eat and never worry about it.   After you eat what 
you need, then eat anything else you want.  ( that is only after you become 
healthy and solve all your health problems ) Sick people can't enjoy that 
luxury of life.



Wayne


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CSA. Davis' books

2004-02-09 Thread Shirley Reed
You can find Adele Davis' cookbook in nearly any thrift shop or used book 
store for less than one dollar.  Costs lots more from Amazon or Crown or .  
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RE: CSSmoking prevents lung cancer

2004-02-09 Thread Wayne Fugitt

Evening Jack,

If you are willing to listen to an ex drunk,

ex smoker who is nearly 75, then do so off list


   You need to write a book, or at least tell us some interesting stories 
how you made your decisions along the way.


Wayne



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RE: CSGatorade/CS/Candida

2004-02-09 Thread James Holmes
What is EPM?

Thanks in advance.

JOH

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In a message dated 2/9/04 1:13:47 PM EST, mdud...@execonn.com writes:

 Actaully the problem with silver citrate is that it was reported in one 
paper
 that the citrate allowed the silver to cross the blood brain barrier.  

It was my understanding that all electro-colloidal silver crosses the 
blood-brain barrier, because the particles are so small.  For those of us
treating 
EPM in horses, this is definitely a good thing because the protozoa that we
are 
trying to kill resides in the cells of the CNS.  I've never heard before
that 
silver in the brain can CAUSE neurological problems.  I would appreciate any

elaboration on these subjects -- crossing the blood-brain barrier and
causing 
neurological problems.  Thanks.   MA


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RE: CSOT to some. Mobil and Exxon Gas

2004-02-09 Thread James Holmes
Is there some place I can make a donation to help out the abused and under
compensated international oil companies?
 
JOH

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This old thing has been around for about 2 years.  I think it's too
simplistic to say since a product you are using costs more than you would
like you then get others to help boycott it.  I don't know where the hatred
of oil companies come from.  My dad worked for Mobil for 40 years and was
friends with men from other companies since we lived overseas.  They were
all good, hard-working and honest men.
 
Looking at the process of bringing the gasoline to us starts with the oil
companies hiring competent and educated professionals like geologists and
engineers to locate the oil, then building the drills and refineries to
process it.  Then the oil companies have a variety of different countries
they have to deal with in order to just do business.  Did you know some
years ago that many of the countries where oil is drilled nationalized and
so they were legally able to steal ALL of the oil companies equipment?
I'd bet they still have occasions where they must deal with corruption.
When the oil is ready for shipment, it's brought over in a tanker and
distributed to eventually be sold at your local gas station.  All things
considered, we're not paying that much for the gas.  Of course we'd all like
to pay less for goods  services - just bought my first bottle of CS at the
health food store costs more (2 oz. for $14) - let's get real here.  
 
Cindy 



RE: CSSmoking prevents lung cancer

2004-02-09 Thread James Holmes
Those books, along with Silent Spring were the beginning of the end for me
trusting anything I had been taught prior.

JOH

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Jack and all,
  Adelle Davis' books, many of them long out of prin,t can be found at 
used bookstores, I got a replacement copy of Let's Cook it Right, at 
either alibris or Borders, I think. This cookbook is still my best 
source for basic food chemistry.  Lot of people made fun of her ideas 
for a lot of years, but she is having the last laugh, from wherever she 
is now.
  Let's Eat Right to Keep Fit is still in print, or was a couple years ago.
paula

 

Jack Dayton wrote:

Thora Rasmussen   2/9/04 2:01 AM  Wrote:

  

I never have taken vitamins until recently, and that sporadically.


*
That is a major mistake, and needs instant rethinking.

How-in-hell can your body keep you well
if you don't give it the tools needed to do so ?

If you are willing to listen to an ex drunk,
ex smoker who is nearly 75, then do so off list
at :   jack...@my.address.org

Jack

Be Nice

PS if you can find a copy of Adele Davis'
LETS EAT RIGHT TO KEEP FIT
and / or LETS GET WELL,  they will
be excellent sources to find out WHY
you need to supplement.


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CSAdelle Davis Books

2004-02-09 Thread Wayne Fugitt

Evening Paula,

1.  Let's Cook it Right
2.  Let's Eat Right to Keep Fit
3.   Unknown

What was the third book?   One was blue, the other orange.

I am near certain I had 3  of those books.  Actually I bought many of them 
and gave them away.


One of my favorite chapters was,   When the Cause is Unknown.

Also used to make her Pep UP  formula.

Wayne

  



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Re: CSEye Formulation Question

2004-02-09 Thread Wayne Fugitt




 It seems that at least some types of cataracts are caused by solid fatty
deposits in the lens, sort of like Crisco.  

Would that also be true for dogs?  And do you think that flax-seed oil would
help them?   MA


   I thought it to be a protein problem and poor drainage.   Not a protein 
deficiency, but improperly formed protein.


   Some serious body chemistry is out of whack.  Many people have eye 
problems or one sort or the other.


  I use a vision Essential supplement only as a preventive measure.

  When you can hear anything,  . can't hear the train whistle, you 
need to be able to see down the track.


  Wayne


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2004-02-09 Thread Wayne Fugitt

Evening James,

 WE ARE SENDING ALL AVAILABLE MATERIAL AS SOON AS IT BECOMES AVALIABLE.

We can send more documents, if needed, to fill the orders.

Wayne


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Re: CSA. Davis' books

2004-02-09 Thread sol
 Well, you sure can, if you have access to such, I was thinking of 
people like myself, online was my only source to find them. Sometimes I 
forget what life is like for you people in more populous parts of the 
country. Some people even have access to HFS and farmer's markets, too, 
or so I'm told, and possibly even restaurants with edible food. :-)

  paula, who lives in the middle of nowhere and likes it



Shirley Reed wrote:

You can find Adele Davis' cookbook in nearly any thrift shop or 
used book store for less than one dollar.  Costs lots more from Amazon 
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Re: CScancel ALL FURTHER INFORMATION ON CS

2004-02-09 Thread sol

Too funny. But really sorta mean to torment the fella?

To Grant,
if you can't seem to get yourself unsubbed, the addy of the list owner 
Mike Devour is at the bottom of every post, I'm sure he will help you.


paula

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CSAdelle Davis

2004-02-09 Thread marjie
Here you go WayneCU - Marjie

1.  Let's Cook it Right
2.  Let's Eat Right to Keep Fit
3.  Let's Get Well



 


Re: CSAdelle Davis Books

2004-02-09 Thread sol
Let's Have Healthy Children? Something to that effect, anyway. I still 
refer to my two books time and again, though I don't always agree with 
everything. And she has been dead a long time, so she hasn't updated them.

paula

Wayne Fugitt wrote:


Evening Paula,

1.  Let's Cook it Right
2.  Let's Eat Right to Keep Fit
3.   Unknown

What was the third book?   One was blue, the other orange.

I am near certain I had 3  of those books.  Actually I bought many of 
them and gave them away.







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CSCataract causes, was Re: CSEye Formulation Question

2004-02-09 Thread sol
  My cataract story. At my bi-annual eye exam a few years ago, I was 
referred to a specialist as my optometrist found the beginnings of a 
cataract in one eye. Specialist confirmed it, said I was a bit young but 
not too unusual for them to be starting to form.
  I had eaten dairy foods heavily all my life, but had been lactose 
intolerant for a few years, but just used the lactase enyzme and went on 
indulging. The problem got worse, and I had to give up all milk products 
entirely. Later I read that dairy consumption is implicated in some 
cataracts, and the enzyme actually gets into the lens of the eye further 
causing cataracts. I don't know, but at my next eye exam having been 
completely dairy and lactase enzyme free for over about a year and a 
half, the beginning cataract was gone, vanished.

  Weird, huh?
paula

Wayne Fugitt wrote:

   I thought it to be a protein problem and poor drainage.   Not a 
protein deficiency, but improperly formed protein.


   Some serious body chemistry is out of whack.  Many people have eye 
problems or one sort or the other.







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Re: CSCataract causes, was Re: CSEye Formulation Question

2004-02-09 Thread Wayne Fugitt

Evening Paula,



  My cataract story.
next eye exam having been completely dairy and lactase enzyme free for over 
about a year and a

half, the beginning cataract was gone, vanished.

  Weird, huh?


   No sounds like a research project.  Who Funded it?

   Not the dairy industry for sure.  grin

   When one has an ailment, they should always try something different, 
even if it is wrong.


   Congratulations !

   Wayne


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