date:20040918


No, not recently. Actually about 30 years ago, when I was in college and
then it came up for discussion when I was in grad school. One can
calculate with some degree of accuracy, the actual dilution that would
occur. But it is intuitive that dilution would occur is it not? It would
have to be consumed with in a short enough period of time. I do believe
there are mental disorders that cause people to over consume water.

Garnet

On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 22:45, j rigby wrote:
> At 03:22 AM 18/09/04, you wrote:
> >I also figure that CS is cheap and that I may as well take a bit too
> >much than too little. It can not harm me in the amounts I take, in fact
> >there is much doubt that it can harm even in much larger amounts. Of
> >course if you drink enough water, 4 gallons in succession, to be exact
> >you WILL die due to the dilution of your electrolytes, you will not be
> >able to propagate an action potential and your hear will stop beating.
> >
> >Garnet
> 
> Hi Garnet, not that I doubt you(!) But I read this authoritatively 
> somewhere recently - did you perchance see an article on this recently?
> 
> Cheers,
> Him
> BTW: The preferred water torture by the British in the last 50 years was to 
> shove a hose down the throat and fill up the stomach and as a clincher hit 
> said stomach with a rifle butt or fist..
> 
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Re: CS>Bill Moyers on Journalism

2004-09-18 Thread Jeanne Shuford

TY SO MUCH FOR POSTING THIS I HAVE PRINTED OUT TEN COPIES FOR FRIENDS AND THEY 
ARE TELLING OTHER ABOUT IT I MAY BE PRINTING OUT MORE COPIES.  
JEN
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ronald Wilson 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 11:38 PM
  Subject: CS>Bill Moyers on Journalism


  In my mail, good read, wrote by one of the best.
- Original Message - 
From: Ingrid Naiman 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 10:11 AM
Subject: Bill Moyers on Journalism


http://www.tompaine.com/articles/journalism_under_fire.php

Re: CS>peirced ears

2004-09-18 Thread G & K Murray


Hi Sol,

Like Garnet said the body in an acid state may be the culprit.  As I 
alkalinized my body it seemed to have gotten better.   Watches are the 
only jewelry piece I have worn since the ear piercing.   I have usually 
worn plastic frames but went with metal this last set or two.   I'll 
have to try Garnets other suggestion for aquarium silicone, that might 
also help, as the nail polish only lasts a few days before it flakes off.


G Murray

sol wrote:

This sounds like classic nickel allergy. I have it and react to all 
the same things. I can wear 14 kt gold (yellow gold, I react to some 
white gold) and I can wear sterling silver, but only if the entire 
earring is sterling, and no other metal or alloy touches me at all. 
The backs of watches bother me too.And sometimes the clasp of a 
sterling necklace or the attachment rings to the clasp will be alloys 
to which I am allergic.  I have to make sure my eyeglasses have only 
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Re: CS>How much CS I take...

2004-09-18 Thread j rigby


At 03:22 AM 18/09/04, you wrote:

I also figure that CS is cheap and that I may as well take a bit too
much than too little. It can not harm me in the amounts I take, in fact
there is much doubt that it can harm even in much larger amounts. Of
course if you drink enough water, 4 gallons in succession, to be exact
you WILL die due to the dilution of your electrolytes, you will not be
able to propagate an action potential and your hear will stop beating.

Garnet


Hi Garnet, not that I doubt you(!) But I read this authoritatively 
somewhere recently - did you perchance see an article on this recently?


Cheers,
Him
BTW: The preferred water torture by the British in the last 50 years was to 
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Re: CS>How much CS I take...

2004-09-18 Thread j rigby


At 10:11 PM 17/09/04, Mike wrote:


Okay, I'll get the ball rolling:

I make CS using low voltage DC with a current control diode in the
line. My main electrode is a 1 oz silver bullion coin. So I have a
pretty low current density, which probably results in a largely ionic
CS, as well as particles of reasonably small size. There's a weak
Tyndall effect that's only visible in a darkened room.


Good One Mike!
Notice how the all very good looking people use  bullion coins?

I'll be back later when some results over a little longer term are in.
However,  my Life Manager now uses it routinely to:
1. extend the life of milk safely.  Raw milk 8 drops per 2 litres
2. Polish mirrors ( A mist spray on the cloth)
3. Routinely disinfect/wipe all kitchen surfaces, bath bits
4. Extend cut flower life 1-2 drops in a litre water.
5. Oh, and cleans her teeth with it + DMSO due to treating a bad root canal 
( aren't they all?)

6. A great body deodorant
7.  More to come..  :-)

Our simple unit is homemade: see here:  http://snipurl.com/SoapboxCS

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Re: CS>***Shingles ?

2004-09-18 Thread Del

You might want to try tetrasil for shingles.  This is an ointment that delivers 
silver into the affected area and is also supposed to release oxygen.  We have 
not used it for shingles, but have found it very effective for other viral and 
bacterial infections.  Others have reported success using it against shingles. 
Check the following reference:

http://tetrasil.com/conditions/shingles.html

This stuff is effective for treating a lot of skin conditions, as you can see 
from their web site.  So far I find that it works as advertised.  My wife is 
even using it to clear up stubborn whiteheads (although this takes a lot of 
time and persistence).

Del


  - Original Message - 
  From: Debbie Mcdonald 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 9:22 PM
  Subject: CS>***Shingles ?


  I am so sorry for not paying attention. Can you all share with me your 
thoughts on Shingles, my friend appears to have this. Thought she has a lung 
infection on one side and she showed me blisters, on her ribs front and back on 
one side, friend told her it was poison ivy. I don't think so. Thanks much and 
email me privately if you think the list is tired of hearing the same things. 
Debbie

Re: CS>Water Distillers

2004-09-18 Thread sol

OH, I don't know, considering the amount of silver polished off the 
electrodes with every use of a scouring pad, it probably makes someone 
some money selling replacement electrodes

sol

Ode Coyote wrote:


The scouring pad has 'no' effect.
It's just work for no reason.





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Re: CS>peirced ears

2004-09-18 Thread sol

This sounds like classic nickel allergy. I have it and react to all the 
same things. I can wear 14 kt gold (yellow gold, I react to some white 
gold) and I can wear sterling silver, but only if the entire earring is 
sterling, and no other metal or alloy touches me at all. The backs of 
watches bother me too.And sometimes the clasp of a sterling necklace or 
the attachment rings to the clasp will be alloys to which I am 
allergic.  I have to make sure my eyeglasses have only plastic temples, 
as metal temples give me raw sores where they touch.
 The solution I found for ears is that for some 20 years I had two pair 
of earrings. Good ones, but only 2 pairs. Even the special piercing 
earrings which are stainless steel plated with 24 kt yellow gold could 
cause me trouble, so as soon as I could I changed to very high quality 
14 kt gold. You may be even more sensitive than I am it sounds like. To 
this day (have had pierced ears for nearly 45 years,  I dip all posts 
and earring backs in rubbing alcohol before putting them on, and clean 
them in it again before putting them away. I regularly soak them in it, 
too, as well as still wipe my earlobes with it. For this purpose rubbing 
alcohol is better than CS, because it evaporates quickly, and is drying. 
CS is too wet and moisture around and under earrings and on the posts 
can cause me a a problem, even iwth earrings that don't normally bother me.
 I can't wear any cheap metal on me anywhere, so I have very little 
jewelry. I have even gotten sores on my stomach from the snap at the 
waist of a pair of jeans.

sol

G & K Murray wrote:

I tried pierced earings for several months they never healed at all.  
I tried the alcohol and peroxide, but it kept getting worse.   I was 
putting earings through and more or less having to find a new hole 
because of the swelling.  I found nylon earings and tried them but by 
that time the infection seemed to have such a strong hold I just gave 
up and tried to let them grow in.   Now I have holes front and back 
with a large amount of scar  tissue in the middle.  I had hoped the 
nylon would have eventually made things better but they never seemed 
to get better until I took them right out.  That was many years ago 
before I know of SC.  I can not tolerate any metal much but have not 
tried anything expensive.  I have trouble with the backs of watches as 
well.  I always have to look for plastic backs as even stainless steel 
will make me break out.  

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RE: CS>Gatorade (homemade) and CS results


At 04:31 PM 17/09/04, you wrote:

True, Gatorade (we use Orange)
makes CS more palatable, but that's NOT the only reason for it's addition.


Richard, did you see Brookes comment on an apparent actual trial involving 
DMSO?


I don't have the science for it, but it seems to me the less you corrupt 
things with at the critical absorption time the better it would be.


Cheers,

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Re: CS>off topic. White noise sound generator


At 03:39 PM 17/09/04, you wrote:

I've been asked to source a white noise sound generator and am wondering if
anyone on the list is familiar with these machines? Any help greatly
appreciated.


Hi there,
If it is for nervousness - forget it.  Look into the specialised music 
areas  like "heart music"  as it is called or Oriental Court music.  The 
Chinese were using  "mood music" thousands of years ago and today there are 
lots of "westernised" versions sold for Tai Chi exercise aids.


The original "white noise" experiments were based on a wacky idea of pain 
attenuation when loud noses were used to deaden the sounds of approaching 
agony via dentist's drills!


Cheers,

Himagain
P.S. Any Chinese Chinese Medical practitioner can point you to local 
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RE: CS>Watercone solar distiller


At 02:06 AM 17/09/04, you wrote:


 Dig a shallow hole.
Cover with a sheet of clear plastic, weight the center with a pebble and
place a collection jar under the center.
 Solar still. Ground moisture as the water source. Some small vents along
the sides will admit moist air but too much will dry as fast as it condenses.
 Production will be highest in the AM hours.

Ode


Works all right. I was on walkabout with one of or the last Aboriginal 
tribes in Oz last century and gained a reputation as a Magician for 
producing water where the women said there was none. 
Not real productive though, but could keep you alive. BTW: In a desert, you 
need to find some bush to put in the hole.

But they taught me some strange things.
Another story...

Him



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Re: CS>peirced ears

2004-09-18 Thread sol

Inflammation of pierced ears is usually an allergic reaction to the 
earrings, the posts and backings and/or any part that touches the ear. 
Nickel is often the culprit.

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Re: CS>Discouraged. (was Happy Dance)

At 01:13 PM 16/09/04, you wrote:

 timeI would use DMSO (at about 1 or 2% strength).as it
> possesses the quality of being the preeminent
> entrainment solution available to us. DMSO WILL transport the CS
> through mucous barriers and intermediate tissue fields like NO OTHER
> substance of which we are aware---at this timeand it is quite
> Non-toxic. Our original Gatorade studies have since, been superceded
> by our DMSO researchin which our protocols eliminate even the
> possibility of chloride compromise.

Ack I cannot imagine the ingestion of DMSO, wonder if he found H202
internally to be as effective.
Susie

After all that  - anyone who is worried about the taste: ..

Quoting from the DMSO list:
(A poster mentioned getting an energy boost from DMSO)

(I) Mentioned this "energy boost" to my Life Manager because she has 
maintained that it was a side effect of DMSO treatment for her wrecked jaw 
from a &^%*...@%$%   root canal.

I also feel that my mental acuity has improved and my theory is that the 
CSSuper+DMSO is desludging the brain tubes ( cleaning the spark plugs and 
leads).

Oh, she also said anyone who reads the facts about DMSO and "needs" to 
drink it with anything, let alone a toxic substance ( gets in faster 
deeper, too) isn't serious.  Certainly they don't know much about pain.

My earlier observation, too ..

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Re: CS>***Shingles ?

CS mixed with 20-50% (depends on individual sensitivity to DMSO, patch
test or work up) DMSO is my topical treatment of choice for all herpes
infections. It works faster and better than CS alone. Both are
anti-viral and the DMSO delivers the CS deep into tissues.

DMSO as a treatment for shingles is detailed in DMSO Nature's Healer by
Morton Walker DPM. Amazon has it for ~$11. Although CS is not covered in
this book.

And of course lots of oral CS. Oral DMSO could also be used. 4% 0r 10%
is the recommended dilution for oral use, ~1-2 teaspoons per day, best
on an empty stomach, can be mixed with CS. 

Compressing the lesions by wetting a peice of flannel or T shirt
material, laying it over them and keeping it wet and in place for at
least 20 minutes is even better than simply applying it. I would do this
through out the day. Remember to moisturize with Aloe Vera Gel or Emu
Oil as DMSO is very drying.

Garnet

On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 20:22, Debbie Mcdonald wrote:
> I am so sorry for not paying attention. Can you all share with me your
> thoughts on Shingles, my friend appears to have this. Thought she has
> a lung infection on one side and she showed me blisters, on her ribs
> front and back on one side, friend told her it was poison ivy. I don't
> think so. Thanks much and email me privately if you think the list is
> tired of hearing the same things. Debbie  
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CS>***Shingles ?

2004-09-18 Thread Debbie Mcdonald


I am so sorry for not paying attention. Can you all share with me your thoughts 
on Shingles, my friend appears to have this. Thought she has a lung infection 
on one side and she showed me blisters, on her ribs front and back on one side, 
friend told her it was poison ivy. I don't think so. Thanks much and email me 
privately if you think the list is tired of hearing the same things. Debbie

Re: CS>off topic. White noise sound generator

2004-09-18 Thread C. Hatzfeld

If the purpose is for sleep, we use floor fans, even in the winter time, and
on trips too.

Cindy



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Re: CS>will this learning curve yield knowledge?

2004-09-18 Thread Dan Nave


Try searching the archives with the word "gulp"...

Dan






Re: CS>will this learning curve yield knowledge?

* From: Garnet (view other messages by this author)
* Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 11:43:51

Being on dial up myself I can commisserate with you. If you use the term
dose and dosages  you will probably pull up mostly useful posts.

Not trying to discourage you from asking current list participants, just
pointing out that the archives will yield many more posts.

Garnet

On Fri, 2004-09-17 at 13:33, fredsus1 wrote:
> Hi Garnet,
>
> I have searched the Archives to the extent that my lousy dial-up has
> afforded me, LOL. I have gone through many archives on many subjects and
> sometimes it seems those questions are still not answered. I could try
> typing in "testimonies" or "dosages" and rifle though all the sub-threads
> that inevitably come up.
>
> I will try again.
>
> Susie


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Re: CS>peirced ears

2004-09-18 Thread G & K Murray





Hi Garnet,

You maybe right about the acidity.  I went on the Master Cleanse
(lemonade sweetened with maple syrup) for 10 days the first of July and
have never felt better.  I'm sure I had change my body's Ph.  The spot
under my watch clear up since then as well.  It was always made worse
with sweat.  All my metal sensitivities have been made worse by sweat. 
I still get some sore spots where my glasses touch.  I have nail polish
on these spots and it helps until it flakes off.  I'm probably not
making it any better by using the nail polish as I'm probably getting a
lot of toxins from that too.   I need a safe alternative that's not
going to cost $650.00 like the new Titanium frames with the appropriate
lenses. : (   

I have been doing mini cleanses every 2-3 weeks for 3-5 days with this
lemonade and the health benefits have just been compounding.  I have
lost 30 lb. over all and fit into clothes that I could not fit in for
about 9 years.  I have also been doing a liver flush with each cleanse
and no longer feel tired after eating and the pain to my shoulder blade
and under arm has disappeared as well as the chronic diarrhea I've had
since the disappearance of my gallbladder 7 years ago.  

I suggest that this is a good cleanse for ay one wanting to detoxify. 
Even just adding a lemonade a day to alkalinize the body.

Garnet wrote:

  Is your system possibly too acidic? Alkalinizing your system is
important to health if you tend to be too acidic due to diet, stress or
genetics.

Garnet

On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 11:35, G & K Murray wrote:
  
  
I tried pierced earrings for several months they never healed at all. 
I tried the alcohol and peroxide, but it kept getting worse.   I was
putting earrings through and more or less having to find a new hole
because of the swelling.  I found nylon earrings and tried them but by
that time the infection seemed to have such a strong hold I just gave
up and tried to let them grow in.   Now I have holes front and back
with a large amount of scar  tissue in the middle.  I had hoped the
nylon would have eventually made things better but they never seemed
to get better until I took them right out.  That was many years ago
before I know of SC.  I can not tolerate any metal much but have not
tried anything expensive.  I have trouble with the backs of watches as
well.  I always have to look for plastic backs as even stainless steel
will make me break out.   

G Murray

elle roberts wrote:


  My daughter has peirced ears,  when they get inflammed she is afraid
to use CS to help the inflamation ... this is because we have
learned not to use a metal spoon etc.  to ingest CS.  She thinks the
CS will react some way with the sterling silver earings.  Can
anybody tell me if this is correct?  Otherwise,  I would like her to
use it.  It seems an ongoing problem.

Thanks again list ... awesome to get this help.

elle.



 




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RE: CS>peirced ears

I love Tee Tree too but some are sensitive to it, or do not like the
smell, like my daughter.  Oregano and Thyme Oil are good too. Diluting
them may be the key for sensitive skin.

Garnet

On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 13:59, ransley wrote:
> Although we consume mass quantities of CS around here, the first
> thing I go for on any skin ailment is Tea Tree Oil. DB
>  
> -Original Message-
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> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>peirced ears
> 
> 
> 
> My daughter has peirced ears,  when they get inflammed she is afraid
> to use CS to help the inflamation ... this is because we have learned
> not to use a metal spoon etc.  to ingest CS.  She thinks the CS will
> react some way with the sterling silver earings.  Can anybody tell me
> if this is correct?  Otherwise,  I would like her to use it.  It seems
> an ongoing problem.
> 
> Thanks again list ... awesome to get this help.
> 
> elle.
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
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RE: CS>peirced ears

2004-09-18 Thread ransley

Although we consume mass quantities of CS around here, the first thing I go
for on any skin ailment is Tea Tree Oil. DB

-Original Message-
From: elle roberts [mailto:elle_robe...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 1:29 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>peirced ears

My daughter has peirced ears,  when they get inflammed she is afraid to use
CS to help the inflamation ... this is because we have learned not to use a
metal spoon etc.  to ingest CS.  She thinks the CS will react some way with
the sterling silver earings.  Can anybody tell me if this is correct?
Otherwise,  I would like her to use it.  It seems an ongoing problem.

Thanks again list ... awesome to get this help.

elle.

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Re: CS>peirced ears

Is your system possibly too acidic? Alkalinizing your system is
important to health if you tend to be too acidic due to diet, stress or
genetics.

Garnet

On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 11:35, G & K Murray wrote:
> I tried pierced earings for several months they never healed at all. 
> I tried the alcohol and peroxide, but it kept getting worse.   I was
> putting earings through and more or less having to find a new hole
> because of the swelling.  I found nylon earings and tried them but by
> that time the infection seemed to have such a strong hold I just gave
> up and tried to let them grow in.   Now I have holes front and back
> with a large amount of scar  tissue in the middle.  I had hoped the
> nylon would have eventually made things better but they never seemed
> to get better until I took them right out.  That was many years ago
> before I know of SC.  I can not tolerate any metal much but have not
> tried anything expensive.  I have trouble with the backs of watches as
> well.  I always have to look for plastic backs as even stainless steel
> will make me break out.   
> 
> G Murray
> 
> elle roberts wrote:
> > My daughter has peirced ears,  when they get inflammed she is afraid
> > to use CS to help the inflamation ... this is because we have
> > learned not to use a metal spoon etc.  to ingest CS.  She thinks the
> > CS will react some way with the sterling silver earings.  Can
> > anybody tell me if this is correct?  Otherwise,  I would like her to
> > use it.  It seems an ongoing problem.
> > 
> > Thanks again list ... awesome to get this help.
> > 
> > elle.
> > 
> > 
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Re: CS>peirced ears

2004-09-18 Thread G & K Murray





I tried pierced earings for several months they never healed at all.  I
tried the alcohol and peroxide, but it kept getting worse.   I was
putting earings through and more or less having to find a new hole
because of the swelling.  I found nylon earings and tried them but by
that time the infection seemed to have such a strong hold I just gave
up and tried to let them grow in.   Now I have holes front and back
with a large amount of scar  tissue in the middle.  I had hoped the
nylon would have eventually made things better but they never seemed to
get better until I took them right out.  That was many years ago before
I know of SC.  I can not tolerate any metal much but have not tried
anything expensive.  I have trouble with the backs of watches as well. 
I always have to look for plastic backs as even stainless steel will
make me break out.   

G Murray

elle roberts wrote:

  
  
  My daughter has peirced ears,  when they get inflammed she is
afraid to use CS to help the inflamation ... this is because we have
learned not to use a metal spoon etc.  to ingest CS.  She thinks the CS
will react some way with the sterling silver earings.  Can anybody tell
me if this is correct?  Otherwise,  I would like her to use it.  It
seems an ongoing problem.
  Thanks again list ... awesome to get this help.
  elle.
  
  
 
  
  
  
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Re: CS>Aspertame lawsuit

2004-09-18 Thread Ralph Carlson


Ralph Carlson - Please Remove me from this lists

Re: CS>How much CS I take...


www.blessedherbs.com is a wonderful resource for high quality herbs.

Hydrangea grows all over some parts of the country. Should not be that
hard to find someone who gardens organically and would dig a few roots.
We had huge bushes in Seattle and I see some here in the South,
particularly closer to the more humid areas.

Garnet

On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 02:26, M. G. Devour wrote:
> Deborah asks:
> > Hi Mike!  I'd be interested in knowing if you also did the kidney
> > cleanse  recommended by HClark.  Some of those herbs (hydrangea root)
> > are hard to  find.  I can see the wisdom in it though. 
> 
> No, I've not done anything specifically to affect the kidneys. I think 
> I read about that early on and decided I didn't want to fuss with it. I 
> drink plenty of water all the time, so my kidneys are in decent shape. 
> I could probably read up on it again to be sure what I was thinking.
> 
> The liver cleanses are having a decent yield, so whatever I haven't 
> done is not stopping them from working.
> 
> Be well,
> 
> Mike D.
> 
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> [Speaking only for myself...   ]
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RE: CS>peirced ears

Surgical steel posts may be what you need. That or 14K gold, Nickel is
indeed a problem for many people. I think it is in some gold too so test
the gold for sensitivity too.

Garnet

On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 09:58, Richard Harris wrote:
> Hi Elle,
> Many people find that the Nickel in Sterling Silver ear rings OR in
> the ear ring posts cause VERY unpleasant wensitivity. I commend you
> and your daughter for looking at this problem seriously; however, I
> believe that using CS to ear lobes or dipping posts into CS before
> inserting will help the inflammation. 
> BEST solution, my wife found after suffering with the same problem--DO
> NOT use Sterling Silver ear ring posts, but find ones with NO Nickel.
> Check my site and let me know if I can help.
> Sincerely,
> ___
> Richard Harris, 56 Year FL Pharmacist
> 448 West Juniata Street
> Clermont, FL 34711
> www.rharrisinc.com
> www.myseahealth.com/reh
> http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elle roberts [mailto:elle_robe...@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 1:29 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>peirced ears
> 
> 
> 
> My daughter has peirced ears,  when they get inflammed she is
> afraid to use CS to help the inflamation ... this is because
> we have learned not to use a metal spoon etc.  to ingest CS. 
> She thinks the CS will react some way with the sterling silver
> earings.  Can anybody tell me if this is correct?  Otherwise, 
> I would like her to use it.  It seems an ongoing problem.
> 
> Thanks again list ... awesome to get this help.
> 
> elle.
> 
> 


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Re: CS>Accutane and MSM


You can also buy Erythromyacin from a fish supply, Pet Smart has it. It
is human grade. Mix it with some water and apply topically. It is what
dermatologists sell for topical application but much cheaper this way.
My 18 yo daughter says it does help. She also uses a 10% Benzoyl
Peroxide. Be careful with it though as it will bleach your towels. I
bought her some white hand towels after we ruined a couple of nice
colored towels.

Garnet

On Fri, 2004-09-17 at 21:40, Nathan Filyk wrote:
> I stopped taking the Accutane after six days - it gave me painfully
> dry eyes, dry lips, dry bones, and laryngitis! I am trying Goldenseal
> right now along with Blue Light Laser Therapy and a different
> antibiotic. That, and a bunch of Vitamin C and Colloidal silver!
>  
> ~Nathan
> 
> Garnet  wrote:
> Accutane has some serious, serious side effects. Please
> investigate it
> fully, if you have not already before taking it. It destroys
> the oil
> producing glands in your skin.
> 
> MSM is a naturally occuring substance and is in all fresh
> foods. You
> could not avoid it without ceasing to eat. It is a source of
> double
> bonded sulfur normaly only found in unprocessed foods. There
> should not
> be a problem with it interacting to my knowledge. 
> 
> BTW do you eat red meat? If so try stopping for a few months
> before
> starting the Accutane and see if that helps. Red meat requires
> testosterone to be digested and the testosterone causes more
> sebum
> production. I no longer eat beef since my teenage daughter
> told me this
> and stopped as well. If I eat one piece of beef, which I no
> longer crave
> but did for about six months at times, I get a pimple, in the
> same place
> every time.
> 
> Garnet
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 23:33, Nathan Filyk wrote:
> > Has anyone had any experience using Accutane for acne? I am
> > considering low-dose accutane, and am wondering if it is
> safe to take
> > MSM during that time.
> > 
> > ~Nathan
> > 
> > 
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Re: CS>cleaning electrodes?

Don't use paper towels, they have too much lint. Just wipe with tissue
and don't worry about making them shine. You just need to remove the
loose stuff.

Garnet

On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 17:58, fredsus1 wrote:
> I am having a little trouble getting all the tarnish off my electrodes with
> just paper towels. What is a sanitary method of removing the "black stuff"?
> 
> Susie
> 
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CS>Unsettling

2004-09-18 Thread Matthew McCann

Hi, Garnet and Stuff,

Thanks for your feedback. I have used two versions of
Outlook Express and both give different choppings to my
text, depending on how the recipient views it. Weird.
My IT staff is not sure what the problem is, and I use
only what they provide.

Matthew

RE: CS>peirced ears

2004-09-18 Thread Richard Harris

Hi Elle,
Many people find that the Nickel in Sterling Silver ear rings OR in the ear
ring posts cause VERY unpleasant wensitivity. I commend you and your
daughter for looking at this problem seriously; however, I believe that
using CS to ear lobes or dipping posts into CS before inserting will help
the inflammation.
BEST solution, my wife found after suffering with the same problem--DO NOT
use Sterling Silver ear ring posts, but find ones with NO Nickel.
Check my site and let me know if I can help.
Sincerely,
___
Richard Harris, 56 Year FL Pharmacist
448 West Juniata Street
Clermont, FL 34711
www.rharrisinc.com
www.myseahealth.com/reh
http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com

  -Original Message-
  From: elle roberts [mailto:elle_robe...@hotmail.com]
  Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 1:29 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CS>peirced ears


  My daughter has peirced ears,  when they get inflammed she is afraid to
use CS to help the inflamation ... this is because we have learned not to
use a metal spoon etc.  to ingest CS.  She thinks the CS will react some way
with the sterling silver earings.  Can anybody tell me if this is correct?
Otherwise,  I would like her to use it.  It seems an ongoing problem.

  Thanks again list ... awesome to get this help.

  elle.

Re: CS>Liver Cleanse [was Accutane and MSM]


For fasting info there is an online copy of Shelton's milestone work on
this topic. 

Shelton: The Hygienic System Vol III; Fasting and Sun Bathing

http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020127shelton.III/020127.toc.htm

There is a member of the Urine Therapy list that I inherited, been
around for years on different servers, who fasts every year for 60-100
days. His posts are most helpful and for the strong of heart UT is very
effective for fasting and healing. Not for everyone mind you but for the
desperate and very poor it is a wonderful resource to consider. He uses
spirulina, fresh juices and urine. Take care to come off the fast
gradually, and go in as well. Eat veggies one day, then juices then
start the fast -- coming out do the reverse. If you jump back into a
protien based diet you will get edema and be uncomfortable. That is what
I have learned from William.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urine_therapy

Apologies if this grosses anyone out. But we are talking about free and
cheap health giving processes here.

Garnet

On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 16:55, John Rigby wrote:
> At 08:58 AM 14/09/04, you wrote:
> >I had not yet found cs when I started the clark procedures, but have been 
> >using it regularly for the last year.  Find it has greatly improved my 
> >health, particularly my lungs.  Feel free to write back with any further 
> >questions, on list or privately.  Joy
> 
> A small note of warning from the Cancervivor experiences: GOLDEN RULES:
> 1.  ANY protocol  should not become a crutch/replacement for sane living 
> practises.
> 2.  Fasting is invariably the greatest aid to your own body in cleaning it 
> out.
> 3.  Right nourishment is the aim for final cure.
> 
> Especially with protocols that really assault the body - like "clean-out" 
> compounds, it is vital to realise that they also deplete the body's already 
> depleted stores, due to 20th century+ eating habits and destroyed food, 
> which is how you got sick in the first place.
> 
> Most good Cervivors  tend to fast about one day per week ( a more natural 
> historical process)  and rely on natural "brooms for the body" like good 
> natural fresh food.
> 
> Virtually all raise and eat their own herbs and sprouts  - something you 
> can even do in a N.Y. apartment -
> being super-careful about the soil used and NEVER using anything not 
> natural as fertiliser  and certainly no "boosters" ( usually synthetic 
> hormones)  and as far as possible use rainwater - NEVER fluoridated.
> 
> Sure, it is a lot harder than taking a pill or an ameliorative, but you get 
> not to die - especially young - and most miraculous of all - no more pain!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Himagain  VERY grateful for CS and H202 and DMSO  as crutches!   :-)
> 
>
> 
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Re: CS>peirced ears

Adding a bit of DMSO will help the CS penetrate to the microbe causing
the infection. Try a feed store, vet or www.jeffersequine.com

Another option is to mix essential oil of Thyme and Oregano with a
carrier oil, Apricot, Jojoba or Almond Oil are nice light oils. A few
drops of the EOs in a tablespoon of carrier. This worked on a fungus
infection (which could be part of the ear infection, fungus loves to
grow where bacteria has set up nice weepy conditions) that my dog had on
the edge of his lips after fire ants bit him there. The DMSO CS was just
not doing it, after a week or so, so I tried this and it was faster, not
sure why, maybe because I was only treating him once a day and the oil
stayed on longer?

Garnet

On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 00:28, elle roberts wrote:
> My daughter has peirced ears,  when they get inflammed she is afraid
> to use CS to help the inflamation ... this is because we have learned
> not to use a metal spoon etc.  to ingest CS.  She thinks the CS will
> react some way with the sterling silver earings.  Can anybody tell me
> if this is correct?  Otherwise,  I would like her to use it.  It seems
> an ongoing problem.
> 
> Thanks again list ... awesome to get this help.
> 
> elle.
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
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Re: CS>Ozone

I believe you Ode. Experience beats out theory any day! 

Thanks

Garnet

On Fri, 2004-09-17 at 06:09, Ode Coyote wrote:
>   I understand that, but H2O2 also breaks down silver oxides.
>  Why, I can't say for sure.
>  Dip that black electrode in some and watch.
> Ode
> 
> 
> At 08:22 AM 9/16/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> >Deoxidize Ode? H2O2 is a strong oxidizing agent. That is why it will
> >bleach your clothes if you use a strong enough concentration. In fact
> >will eat holes right through cotton at 35%.
> >
> >Ozone ( O3 ) and H2O2 both give off oxygen to the system. 
> >
> >Garnet
> >
> >On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 07:23, Ode Coyote wrote:
> >>   I would think it would oxidize the ions and make the CS go brown.
> >> Making CS in heavily ozonated water does that. Perhaps silver peroxides.
> >>  I don't now if that's a good, indifferent or bad thing.
> >> 
> >>  Perhaps ozonating to oxidize, then adding some peroxide to de-oxidize?
> >> 
> >> ..might just give you a true colloid.
> >> 
> >> ode
> >> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: CS>Re: (too soo to be) Discouraged

Two to three tablespoons of H2O2 will make a dog throw up. But small
amounts, drops, will not. Given on an empty stomach it is even less
likely to cause disturbance in the stomach.

Mix CS with DMSO if you are concerned about the sodium / salts issue. It
is thought to be superior to the Gatorade by the man who developed the
protocol anyway. See the recent repost of Brooks Bradley on the list.

No one knows for sure what happens to CS in the stomach or when mixing
with Gatorade. They just know what happens when you do it. So far no
argyria so the consensus is that it is not a risk, but there are no
gurantees. There are no studies and probably never will be as there is
no money in a product you cannot patent or keep secret.

I would not use H2O2 and DMSO together though. They may counter act each
other since DMSO is an anti-oxidant and H2O2 gives off oxygen.

DMSO stinks but you can buy a low odor variety at www.jacoblab.com . One
of them has MSM blended in with the DMSO and is more suited for oral
use. The other is blended with 10% urea, to reduce the odor and is also
medicinal in itself, which helps with the odor when used topically.

There is at least one H2O2 list and many sites where you can find out
more about how others are using it for health. Much to know when using
this product, particularly that you should use an additive free H2O2
when ingesting orally. The stabilizers in the drug store brown bottle
H2O2 are nasty. See below for more info and a supplier I have used to
buy Tech Grade, I chose Tech Grade over Food Grade because Food Grade is
permitted to contain Aluminum (not that all of it does mind you) and
Tech grade has no impurities as the Phosphorous is gone by the time it
is bottled.

Garnet


http://h2o2-4u.com/grades.html

"Food Grade vs Technical Grade Hydrogen Peroxide

Technical Grade Sold Here

Food grade and Technical grade hydrogen peroxide are essentially the
same. However, the FDA regulates among other things the processing of
Food grade hydrogen peroxide.

For Example:

The manufacturer produces 10 drums of technical grade H2O2. He would
test the first and the last drum for quality and purity. The FDA
inspects or test all 10 drums. All 10 drums are now considered to be
food grade H2O2 after the additives added by the manufacturer for
compliance. If the packager pours food grade H2O2 out of one of those
drums into a smaller container, it is no longer a "food grade" unless
that smaller container is also tested for the FDA compliance.

Hydrogen Peroxide Grades

3% Hydrogen Peroxide (Drug/Grocery Store Variety)

Used as antimicrobial agent for treating wounds and sanitizing agent

[Made from 50% Super D Peroxide, Diluted. Contains stabilizers -
phenol, acetanilide, sodium stanate, tetrasodium phosphate among them.]
[This peroxide contains known chemicals do not ingest!]

6% Hydrogen Peroxide

Used by Beauticians for Coloring Hair. Used as sanitizing agent.
Comes in strengths labeled 10,20,40 volume. Must have activator added
to be used as a bleach.

[Contains stabilizers, additives, and impurities dependent on
manufacturing and dilution process. Do not ingest.]

30% Re-Agent Hydrogen Peroxide

Used in medical research.

[Contains stabilizers, additives, and impurities dependent on
manufacturing and dilution process. Do not ingest.]

30-32% Electronic Grade Hydrogen Peroxide

Used for washing transistors and integrated chip parts before assembly.

[Contains stabilizers, additives, and impurities dependent on
manufacturing and dilution process. Do not ingest.]

35% Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide (Also 50% Food Grade H2O2)

Used in food products like cheese, eggs, whey products. Also used to
spray inside of foil lined containers for food storage - known as the
aseptic packaging system. Used for the disinfection of potable water.
Also used (diluted) to disinfect, kill bacteria, sanitize wounds and
introduce oxygen into the body. Eg. bathing, gargle, toothpaste,
treat drinking water, etc.

[Contains stabilizers, additives, and impurities dependent on
manufacturing and dilution process.
--e.g. This Food Grade Hyrogen Peroxide is Stabilized using tin based
formulations ]

35% Technical Grade Hydrogen Peroxide

Used for waste water treatment and the disinfection of potable water,
cosmetics, and laundry applications. Also used (diluted) to
disinfect, kill bacteria, sanitize wounds and introduce oxygen into
the body. Eg. bathing, gargle, toothpaste, treat drinking water, etc.

[May contain a small amount of phosphorus to neutralize any chlorine
in the water it is combined with.]

MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET & Technical Details: Hydrogen Peroxide (20
to 40%)

35% Standard Grade Hydrogen Peroxide (Also 50%, 60%, 70% Standard
Grades)

Used mainly for bleaching in the pulp and paper industry and in the
textile industry; oxidation reactions in the chemical industry;
environmental processes (detoxification and deodorization). Used for
Waste water treatment.

[Contains stabilizers, additives, and impurit

Re: CS>Watercone solar distiller

How about a nylon umbrella?

Garnet

On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 12:01, Marshall Dudley wrote:
> I think it was made out of polyvinyl chloride.  That will tend to leach
> vinyl chloride, which is pretty nasty stuff.  One can get rid of that by
> putting it in an oven that is set to 150 F or so, for 24 hours. But I am not
> sure if you do that if it will become brittle.
> 
> Marshall
> 
> Jim Holmes wrote:
> 


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Re: CS>Unsettling


I agree that the short sentences are a bit difficult. And for some
reason your posts come through in very tiny print. Easy enough to fix
that in my email program but thought you might not know?

And yeah stuff, you can't please everyone but it is nice when people let
you know that they have some trouble reading your posts. I would want to
know myself.

Garnet

On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 21:37, Stuff wrote:
> Matthew,
> 
> I like your sentences the way they are.
> 
> Can't please everyone, can you.
> 
> stuff
> 
> At 09:43 AM 9/14/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> >A plea to Matthew McCann...
> >
> >Can you turn off your sentence chopper when you send to this list?
> >
> >For me, not being exclusively an intellectual person, the visual chopping
> >tends to chop up the sense of the post as well.  You tend to post things
> >which are difficult enough for some of us to follow, why make it harder?
> >
> >(Don't get mad, you can see that I value your posts enough to read them ;-))
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Dan
> >
> >
> >
> >CS>Settling?
> >
> > * From: Matthew McCann (view other messages by this author)
> > * Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 07:23:03
> >
> >Other terms have been used - aging,
> >curing,
> >etc.
> >
> >The term stabilizing goes back a long
> >way. In
> >1919
> >Searle used it in the chapter on the
> >preparation
> >of
> >colloidal sols in his text The Use Of
> >Colloids
> >In
> >Health And Disease. He wrote on page
> >55:
> >
> >"The stabilizing or protecting of a
> >colloidal sol
> >depends
> >on its being in a state of equilibrium
> >between the
> >forces
> >tending to cause these small particles
> >to
> >coalesce
> >(surface tension) and those tending to
> >cause
> >dispersion
> >of the colloid throughout the medium.
> >Stability
> >appears
> >to be due, in most cases, to a union of
> >the
> >particles
> >to be stabilized with those of the
> >protective
> >colloid or
> >with ions which have the stabilizing
> >action.
> >Zsigmondy
> >maintains that stability is wholly due
> >to the
> >equilibrium
> >between the adsorption and dissociation
> >of ions
> >by
> >colloidal particles."
> >
> >Matthew
> >
> >
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Reactions "might" happen with a metal spoon, but these reactions take time..more time than the CS will stay in the spoon.
Why not remove the ear-rings, then use CS and replace the ear-rings after the CS has dried up?

Even if the CS does react, How and When are major questions.
Few if any possible reactions are relevent to the purpose of using CS within that timeframe.
It's not likely to be a problem.

If it turns out there is some significant problem, do something different.

Ode

At 05:28 AM 9/18/2004 +, you wrote:

My daughter has peirced ears, when they get inflammed she is afraid to use CS to help the inflamation ... this is because we have learned not to use a metal spoon etc. to ingest CS. She thinks the CS will react some way with the sterling silver earings. Can anybody tell me if this is correct? Otherwise, I would like her to use it. It seems an ongoing problem.

Thanks again list ... awesome to get this help.

elle.

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Re: CS>Water Distillers

 The scouring pad has 'no' effect.
It's just work for no reason.

The electrodes just get "dirty" again very quickly..it's part of the process, so just let the process be what it is.
Wipe off the loose stuff and let er rip.

Ode


At 07:32 PM 9/17/2004 +, you wrote: 

Hi Garnet,  Yesterday you said .


'I simply wipe it out after each batch and soak it in vinegar and water over night 
every 6 or 7th batch, when the mineral deposits that won't wipe out get to be the size of a quarter on the bottom of the vessel'.. 


This sounds like a good idea to me and saves dollars for water distiller cleaner.
What type of vinegar do you use and when you soak overnight,  how much vinegar do you add?  


Also,  for cleaning electrodes you suggest Kleenex tissues.  I have been taught to use a green scouring pad and clean till the silver shines,  I cant get the same result with tissues.  Is there a reason to use only the tissues?  ie.  does the scouring pad cause some ill-effect?


I'm very grateful for all I have learned on the list in the last few days,  being an amateur... thanks to those who have raised questions and had expert answers,  much has been clarified for myself.


Cheers


elle





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Re: CS>will this learning curve yield knowledge?

  Another factor:

 Newbies simply aren't aware of how long many have been around or what
ground has been covered.
It 'looks for the world' like an existing group has formed around 'them'
and it's ALL new to everyone.

 After a few days, running enthusiasm slows down into study as the depth of
the terrain becomes more familiar.

Then too...The archives can be quite overwhealming to one who only has
simple questions.
 Newbies want everything nailed down and have every reason to believe that
it 'has been' nailed down.
 Oldbies are still forging nails.

Newbie... Just be aware that you're at the mercy of the oldbies patience.
They will re-type that simple answer for the thousanth time every now and
then.
 Part of the problem is that it ain't simple to someone who's been wearing
hip waders for a while and it's hard to sort out what a simple answer
is...then it almost always gets deeper.
 So, it's not so much that you are being ignored, it's just that
anticipation of re-writing a book that's still being written differently
every day over the course of the next few weeks that makes an oldbie groan
and wait for enthusiasm to subside a bit.

Ode

At 12:32 PM 9/17/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Have you searched the archives Susie? There are literally thousands of
>posts that do exactly what you have requested. Many of the regulars here
>use the archives first and then ask a question to avoid repetition and
>frankly boredom with answering the same old question a zillion times. I
>know it is easier to just ask but you will not get the same quantity of
>information, for the above reason and the fact that so many have posted
>in the archives that are not presently participating in the list.
>
>On most lists I have participated in this type of comment is taken as
>laziness or just plain arrogant. I know that you may not mean it this
>way but I just want to help you understand how your words can be
>misinterpretted. 
>
>Garnet
>
>On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 21:58, fredsus1 wrote:
>
>> 
>> Since this IS a CS list, it would be nice if people would take the time to
>> write in a short reply of what they are taking CS for and in what
amounts it
>> has helped.
>> 
>> Susie
>
>
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Re: CS>will this learning curve yield knowledge?

  When the fungus was in remission, I was developing the generator
circuitry and running batch after batch, tasteing each one as soon as it
was done.
 This was not an every day thing.
 One thing I've noticed when sipping a shot glass full of very fresh CS/EIS
is that I 'feel' energized as though I just drank 2 cups of coffee. No
jitters, just a very 'awake' feeling.
 I don't feel that with 'stabilized' EIS.

I built myself a shot glass sized generator and set out to run it every day.
Problem with that is...I don't have the discipline to even 'eat' every day,
certainly not with any regularity.
 I keep the CS bottle near the tooth brush to use after I brush. I brush
after I eat.  That might be 6 times a day or not at all for a couple of
days till dizziness reminds me to fuel up.
 I've been known to wash a handful of raw oatmeal down with water and call
that a meal.
 I'm just not very good at regimens and schedules.

 Other people have had success with toe funges as I almost did. 
One of the smaller nails was also infected. It cleared up and remains so.
 My big toenails are very thick and slow growing. There is a variable clear
section near the cuticle that goes back and forth.
 I may have selected out a resistant strain and the silver content in the
nail just slows it down as it grows 'around' imbedded particles?

 I don't get to see any change for 'months'..years?.. no matter what I do.

Ode

At 09:22 AM 9/16/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>So, Ode,
>  From your posts over time and your website info re toenail fungus, I 
>haven't seen any indication that you have ever taken EIS  in really 
>large quantities? Have you ever tried adding a little DMSO to the EIS, 
>either for topical or oral use?
>  Just curioius. There seems to be a big dichotomy among silverlisters, 
>some being for ingesting large amounts of CS daily for certain purposes 
>(pint or more daily) to those who limit intake to 8 oz or less, some 
>even going for mere teaspoons as a total daily dose.
>  You have said, and I agree, that the only dosing that makes sense is 
>to dose for effect. So if under a cup of EIS daily isn't getting rid of 
>the fungus totally, why not try a quart? I'm not joking, I'd really like 
>to know if you have tried that much for a few weeks, or if not, why not?
>TIA,
>sol
>
>
>Ode Coyote wrote:
>
>> With "dose for effect", PPM is not very important.
>> It's virtually impossible to over-dose.
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>
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