Re: CSMarshall--sinus bleeding
At 01:14 AM 18/01/05, Marshall wrote: No, it is pretty well under control now. First time I have really been sick in about 7 years. Had a sore throat when I wen to bed and drank a bunch of EIS. Woke up feeling horrible, and had the flu or something. Glad to hear you are over it Marshall - the Doctors' friend may have helped : ( take this and wait ten days - or just wait ten days) :-) Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSHow many ppm in CS
At 11:26 AM 18/01/05, Michael wrote: This was very effective on the Shingles virus and a series of very strong cold sore viruses, and stopped them in their tracks. I was taking 8 oz of about 10 ppm prior, and it had no effect on the Shingles virus, and barely dented the cold sore viruses. Hi Michael, Where did the Shingles appear? Would you mind me passing the message on (no names mentioned) Cheers, Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CStest - what happens to your messages
A better explanation could be the Echelon Network designed by the United States National Security Agency (NSA) and shared with the national security agencies for Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the United Kingdom as quoted in a letter I have from U..S. Senator Rick Santorum dated 2-17-2000. It is an international surveillance system that searches for key words in messages and forwards them to an intelligence analyst to determine if a threat exists...Bill. -- At 05:17 AM 19/01/05, you wrote: I have sent several messages to this list, but they never showed up. Yet I am seeing other postings showing up. What's going on? Marshall Hi Marshall folks, These are the results of the NetNazi Censorship programs that intercept about 85% of all email traffic today and censor them. They are outside the law and becoming more dangerous by the day. The look for key words in Emails and simply often trash them. They are so numerous now that often - as they are run in a garage somewhere by a kid or religious fanatic in a basement, that mail is sidetracked for hours. There is apparently a new one run by an insane Christian ( a newborn Baptist) that looks for any mention of anything Islamic and reports the Senders Site as a Spammer... and the main offender - called SpamCop, simply puts out on its very well-used Blacklist everyone that nutters like this report and for four days your whole ISP block can be off the air to millions of Servers Welcome to 1984. Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CStetrasil
At 10:05 PM 18/01/05, you wrote: I think I'll try iontophorisis soon by wrapping silver wires around the wetted toe and applying a little current. [Direct 'on site' silver generation and injection through the skin...and blood electrification by default] Ode Wow, Ode, I'll be interested to see the results of that. Sounds like a mix of T.E.N.S. concept and REALLY fresh EIS. I'd never HEARD of iontophoresis before but there it is in my magic little helper http://www.wordweb.info - I knew the process but not the new word! :-) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CStest - what happens to your messages
At 05:17 AM 19/01/05, you wrote: I have sent several messages to this list, but they never showed up. Yet I am seeing other postings showing up. What's going on? Marshall Hi Marshall folks, These are the results of the NetNazi Censorship programs that intercept about 85% of all email traffic today and censor them. They are outside the law and becoming more dangerous by the day. The look for key words in Emails and simply often trash them. They are so numerous now that often - as they are run in a garage somewhere by a kid or religious fanatic in a basement, that mail is sidetracked for hours. There is apparently a new one run by an insane Christian ( a newborn Baptist) that looks for any mention of anything Islamic and reports the Senders Site as a Spammer... and the main offender - called SpamCop, simply puts out on its very well-used Blacklist everyone that nutters like this report and for four days your whole ISP block can be off the air to millions of Servers Welcome to 1984. Himagain Wait-till-August, 2005! Mike might face a long jail sentence. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSArgyria cure
Matthew suggests: Can you collect rainwater on a clean plastic surface (e.g. nylon umbrella, inverted, or plastic tarpaulin)? And, Tony, if you are in an area where there's a lot more sunshine than rain, how about solar distillers? Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew and improved CS
Hi Mike, Are you speaking about clear glass containers or ones that have patterning on them? Lead or something in a glaze can certainly leach into the water but I cannot imagine clear glass leaching anything. Are they colored glass? The PWT is a pretty good little toy isn't it. They pack a lot inside if you've pulled the guts out to take a look. Glad you're pleased. I was pretty sure it was all hype but thought the list members should see their latest press release. Trem - Original Message - From: Mike Monett pqunsulee...@spammotel.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:36 PM Subject: Re: CSNew and improved CS CSNew and improved CS From: Trem Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:16:01 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m77040.html *Repost* Hi List, Check this one. Anybody have any knowledge about what they're doing that enhances the CS? Or do you think it's hype? Trem Hi Trem, It looks like complete hype. I believe this company was involved in various pump and dump schemes in the past, such as false reports of the US army purchasing 3 million dollars worth of cs. You can patent anything these days. But their description has no technical merit. It sounds very much like Bearden's scalar energy scam, or over-unity claims. Disregard. Nothing to see here - please continue your normal activity. All the Best Mike Monett P.S. I got the Hanna PWT and I LOVE it. From an engineering viewpoint, I'm absolutely amazed to be measuring sub-ppm changes in ion concentrations. You have no idea how difficult this is to do in straight electronics, such as A/D converters. I'm having problems with taking cs from the trunk of my car in -30C weather and making accurate uS measurements during demos, but most people understand and don't mind the discrepancies. And I found that cheap Chinese glass containers can leach ions into the cs, so the uS reading increases constantly day by day. But I hesitated bothering you since I could see the cs turning yellow by itself, which it doesn't do in other containers. So I'm a Happy Camper, which is extremely difficult to do with an old gritty engineer. Thanks, Trem. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.13 - Release Date: 1/16/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.13 - Release Date: 1/16/2005
Re: CSbasic dumb question
Dissolved Compounds still remain those compounds and don't change into something else when the water is removed. A free silver ion isn't likely to be very stable and very much wants to share an electron with something. Question: Does it HAVE to share, or can it's desires be passified as an 'onlooker' or 'groupie', so to speak? Can a free silver ion 'associate' [identify?] itself... around and with... a water molecules opposite valence oxygen componant and become at least 'more' stable without actually becoming a 'compound' made from out of that water molecule? ...a protective attraction vs an absolute reaction.. Can a cluster of silver atoms that include one or more ions on it's surface to present an ionic 'appearance' to the water molecules also be included in such an attraction? Warning: Any in depth explanation one way or the other will probably confuse me. Simple answers? Yes, no , maybe sometimes? Ode -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CStest - what happens to your messages
George, obviously new something that we didn't. :-) -Original Message- From: William Amos [mailto:wa...@mailstation.com] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 10:16 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CStest - what happens to your messages A better explanation could be the Echelon Network designed by the United States National Security Agency (NSA) and shared with the national security agencies for Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the United Kingdom as quoted in a letter I have from U..S. Senator Rick Santorum dated 2-17-2000. It is an international surveillance system that searches for key words in messages and forwards them to an intelligence analyst to determine if a threat exists...Bill. -- At 05:17 AM 19/01/05, you wrote: I have sent several messages to this list, but they never showed up. Yet I am seeing other postings showing up. What's going on? Marshall Hi Marshall folks, These are the results of the NetNazi Censorship programs that intercept about 85% of all email traffic today and censor them. They are outside the law and becoming more dangerous by the day. The look for key words in Emails and simply often trash them. They are so numerous now that often - as they are run in a garage somewhere by a kid or religious fanatic in a basement, that mail is sidetracked for hours. There is apparently a new one run by an insane Christian ( a newborn Baptist) that looks for any mention of anything Islamic and reports the Senders Site as a Spammer... and the main offender - called SpamCop, simply puts out on its very well-used Blacklist everyone that nutters like this report and for four days your whole ISP block can be off the air to millions of Servers Welcome to 1984. Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe CS CO Q 10
If you go to Our Health CO-OP you will do better in strength and price.It is a CO-OP that costs nothing to join and their prices range anywhere up to 50% savings + Harold -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS***Purity of .9999 silver/Hauser and Miller?
I had written Marshall last week and one of my questions was about the silver I bought in 1998 from an outifit then recommended on this list that I no longer see recommended here so I wondered if it was found that their silver was not really ok?? It was from Hauser and Miller. I am mercury toxic so this is really important to me, any other metals than silver. I did not get an answer from him so maybe those filters. I am on bushgreenwatch so I bet I am on some spy lists:)
Re: CS***Purity of .9999 silver/Hauser and Miller?
Hauser and Miller are very reputable. I feel sure that if you got .999 or better you should be ok. If you wrote me directly and I did not resond, I apologize. Some weekends I receive over 10,000 spams, and with no more than 3 or 4 real messages hidden in them, I occasionally delete something as spam that should not be. Marshall Debbie Mcdonald wrote: I had written Marshall last week and one of my questions was about the silver I bought in 1998 from an outifit then recommended on this list that I no longer see recommended here so I wondered if it was found that their silver was not really ok?? It was from Hauser and Miller. I am mercury toxic so this is really important to me, any other metals than silver. I did not get an answer from him so maybe those filters. I am on bushgreenwatch so I bet I am on some spy lists:)
Re: CSNew and improved CS
At 03:11 PM 1/19/2005 -0800, you wrote: Hi List, Check this one. Anybody have any knowledge about what they're doing that enhances the CS? Or do you think it's hype? Trem I'd be be looking for independent verification and specific claims. ASAP isn't especially known for full disclosure and maximum truthfullness. Most everything I've read that was written by that bunch, including this piece, was designed to 'not' inform while appearing to say something meaningful. when compared to other silver products [Which other silver products? It doesn't say 'all' other or 'any particular' other, either. Stated that way, if it's better than ANY other, the statement is true.] Professor Rustum Roy... is who's scientist? A patent application isn't a patent grant and a patent grant doesn't mean it's any good if scrutinized. The patent office doesn't engage in very much scrutiny. These things are more about intimidation and bragging rights claims than anything else. If any attempt at honesty is being made, the patent numbers will be prominant. Keyword searches in the patent office archives generally bring up hundreds of nearly identical patents whos only differences amount to useless insertions and unverified assertions. Ode Clifton Mining Company - New Discoveries Lead To New Patents Filed ALPINE, UT, Jan. 19 /CNW/ - Clifton Mining Company (Clifton)(OTC:CFTN) announces that American Biotech Labs, a private company in which Clifton holds over 1.5 million shares, has recently filed a new patent application containing new and exciting data and results. Laboratory work from several US-based institutions, has verified that American Biotech Labs' silver products possess some very unique and important physical properties which appear to be quite different from other commercially available colloidal silvers. Further, significant new uses and product modifications have also been discovered and included in the patent filing. Unique Fingerprint -- Work completed so far indicates that American Biotech Labs' products are distinguishable from every other silver product tested. The unique structure/composition of the products inherently result from the already patented process. This unique structure/composition seems to result in a different efficacy of the silver products, when compared to existing colloidal silvers. The work was headed by the leading materials science laboratory in the world at the Pennsylvania State University, and was personally led by Professor Rustum Roy, regarded as one of the top materials scientists in the world. Testing was also performed by distinguished scientists at Arizona State University (and other locations), all of which were under the direction of Professor Roy. This work, may help explain why American Biotech Labs' products are so much more effective as antimicrobials, at very low concentration levels of silver, when compared to other silver products, some of which contain hundreds of times higher silver concentrations. This characterization work is ongoing and should result in an ever better understanding of why the products of American Biotech Labs are superior, and could also provide new pathways for potential product improvements. Said Keith Moeller, VP, We are delighted with this new patent application, we believe it dramatically strengthens our patent protection. Clifton trades on the U.S. OTC: (CFTN). Note: Any statements released by Clifton Mining Company that are forward looking are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Editors and investors are cautioned that forward looking statements invoke risk and uncertainties that may affect the company's business prospects and performance. For further information: Dr. Ken Friedman, President at (303) 642-0659, Keith Moeller, Vice President at (801) 756-1414 or see our website at www.cliftonmining.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.13 - Release Date: 1/16/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005
CS***Purity of .9999 silver/Hauser and Miller?
Hi Marshall, Glad to hear it is good stuff, I have a long piece:). I did not think you ignored me, I frequently do not get answers to messages so assume they just fly away. I forgot to mention it has a tarnished look now, kind of coppery hue, what do we do with that?? It's still in the bag in came in Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Hauser and Miller are very reputable. I feel sure that if you got .999 or better you should be ok.
Re: CS***Purity of .9999 silver/Hauser and Miller?
That would be silver sulfide. It is insoluble. I don't think it would be a problem to use as is, but it can be easily removed either abrasively, or by putting in an aluminum pan (or in a bowl with aluminum foil on the bottom) with hot water and baking soda added. The tarnish will disappear within a couple of minutes. Marshall Debbie Mcdonald wrote: Hi Marshall, Glad to hear it is good stuff, I have a long piece:). I did not think you ignored me, I frequently do not get answers to messages so assume they just fly away. I forgot to mention it has a tarnished look now, kind of coppery hue, what do we do with that?? It's still in the bag in came in Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Hauser and Miller are very reputable. I feel sure that if you got .999 or better you should be ok.
Re: CSArgyria cure
On 17 Jan 2005 at 15:13, Mike Monett wrote: Re: CSArgyria cure From: Tony Moody Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:12:58 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m76924.html Hi Mike, If I had to use only good distilled water I wouldn't have any CS. Exorbitantly expensive and a round trip of 350km and tastes/smells like diesel. If I was selling CS and wanted shelflife then I would go the route of making a double or triple distiller. You mentioned using dw in your first post. Strange it is so difficult to get. Are there any power plants nearby that use deionized water for their boilers? How about hospitals? Can you have it shipped to you? Yes that was many years ago while I lived in a city. Not so strange really; this is South Africa. The nearest operating powerplant is about 1200km and is nuclear, so I'll skip that. The other one is about 2000km the other way and those are coalfired. Anyway I wouldn't touch boiler condensate because it has all sorts of stuff including chloramines in it. Hospitals; I try not to go near them. Yes, I estimated 2 to 5ppm for 2 to 5 minutes. So we are in the order of magnitude there. :-) If 2 to 5 ppm works and is not harmful in any way then why go higher?? How do you know it works? Probably most of it combines with contaminants in the water and is not available to kill bugs. Well it really works very well topically on wounds, scalds and zits. and fairly well on herpes infections ( I think it needs to be applied often to work to completion.) It is an excellent underarm deodorant but doesn't last long enough for me. It stops BO immediately. It is really good and quick for settling upset stomach due to bad food. It works on colds if taken soon enough and often enough. You seem to be strong and healthy, and have not yet experienced a life-threatening infection. So you are not yet aware of your own mortality. I'm offended by your judgements and assumptions. I'm certainly not going to get into a little pissing contest comparing wounds and diseases with you. I used to be like you, but things change as we have different experiences and grow older. You begin to see what can go wrong instead of expecting everything will work fine. Umm, I'll just ignore this. And if I am drinking the water anyway, can adding some silver to it make it worse? From my point of view adding some silver is better than doing nothing. Do a google search on purifying water for hikers. There are some extremely dangerous bugs out there. The small amount of silver you are adding won't have any effect on them. You are deluding yourself. I notice that you have no parameter for electrode spacing; nor for agitation or flowrate past the electrodes. Both are very important practical considerations in my view. As important as current density, which also does not seem to appear in your calcs either. I was the one who alerted the list to the importance of current density in my ULVDC posts several years ago. I have included the full conversion factors at the end for your use. However, I did not feel it would be worth the time to convert your metric dimensions to inches. Electrode spacing is of no concern in your system since you use water with unknown conductivity. Current flow has no effect on the maximum available ppm. Mike, I think you are deluding yourself. There was a heated debate involving many able people and all parameters many years before you made an appearance on this list. I saw use less than 10.7uA/mm^2 in an email from Ole Bob well before the end of 1999. Your system is out of control. You have no idea what your initial current is, and it will change every time you dip your glass in a stream. You have no tests to confirm it is working, or if you are actually getting any useful silver ions from the brew. You should at least do a milk test to see the effect of your cs. Mike, You do not know what you are talking about. I remain offended by your assumptions. Tony On 12 Jan 2005 at 16:57, Mike Monett wrote: Hi Tony, Silver electrolysis should only be done with pure distilled water. Why? You don't know what contaminants are in the water that will combine with the silver ions and render them useless. Even distilled water needs constant monitoring to ensure your process is working. You have no controls on your process at all, and you don't know if it is working or not. For plain water, and assuming your constant current source goes into full limiting as soon as current is applied, a current of 1mA for 3 minutes in 250ml will liberate 1.609ppm of silver ions. (Calculations provided at the end.) OK This is an insignificant amount of silver, and
Re: CSRe CS CO Q 10
What is...CoQ10? Coenzyme Q10 is a powerful antioxidant that can be found in virtually every cell of the body, and it is a critical factor in energy production. Deficiency of coQ10 is not well- understood yet, but some scientists suspect that statin drugs cause the depletion of coQ10, which could cause muscle wasting, heart failure, and possibly increased risk of cancer. Low blood levels of coQ10 have been found in individuals with heart failure, cardiomyopathies, gingivitis, morbid obesity, hypertension, muscular dystrophy, AIDS, and people on kidney dialysis. Yours in good health, Amanda Ross Managing Editor Nutrition Healing - Original Message - From: Harold MacDonald har...@direct.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 10:35 AM Subject: CSRe CS CO Q 10 If you go to Our Health CO-OP you will do better in strength and price.It is a CO-OP that costs nothing to join and their prices range anywhere up to 50% savings + Harold -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005
CSArgyria cure
Hi, Tony, Can you collect rainwater on a clean plastic surface (e.g. nylon umbrella, inverted, or plastic tarpaulin)? If I were in a remote location without a source of steam- distilled water, I would use rainwater (filtered through a coffee filter and boiled) before I would use springwater, wellwater or other forms of groundwater. Dissolved minerals are not harmful to ingest, but do interfere with electrolysis. Best regards, Matthew
Re: CStetrasil
Jason has been looking into it for a while. Ode At 09:04 PM 1/20/2005 +1000, you wrote: At 10:05 PM 18/01/05, you wrote: I think I'll try iontophorisis soon by wrapping silver wires around the wetted toe and applying a little current. [Direct 'on site' silver generation and injection through the skin...and blood electrification by default] Ode Wow, Ode, I'll be interested to see the results of that. Sounds like a mix of T.E.N.S. concept and REALLY fresh EIS. I'd never HEARD of iontophoresis before but there it is in my magic little helper http://www.wordweb.info - I knew the process but not the new word! :-) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005
RE: CStest - what happens to your messages
Years ago the government had a program like this called Carnivore. When they began to use it there was an uproar and supposedly they shut it down. Now with the Patriotic Act they can literally do anything so I imagine it is going full tilt. -Original Message- From: William Amos [mailto:wa...@mailstation.com] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 10:16 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CStest - what happens to your messages A better explanation could be the Echelon Network designed by the United States National Security Agency (NSA) and shared with the national security agencies for Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the United Kingdom as quoted in a letter I have from U..S. Senator Rick Santorum dated 2-17-2000. It is an international surveillance system that searches for key words in messages and forwards them to an intelligence analyst to determine if a threat exists...Bill. -- At 05:17 AM 19/01/05, you wrote: I have sent several messages to this list, but they never showed up. Yet I am seeing other postings showing up. What's going on? Marshall Hi Marshall folks, These are the results of the NetNazi Censorship programs that intercept about 85% of all email traffic today and censor them. They are outside the law and becoming more dangerous by the day. The look for key words in Emails and simply often trash them. They are so numerous now that often - as they are run in a garage somewhere by a kid or religious fanatic in a basement, that mail is sidetracked for hours. There is apparently a new one run by an insane Christian ( a newborn Baptist) that looks for any mention of anything Islamic and reports the Senders Site as a Spammer... and the main offender - called SpamCop, simply puts out on its very well-used Blacklist everyone that nutters like this report and for four days your whole ISP block can be off the air to millions of Servers Welcome to 1984. Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSbasic dumb question
Ode Coyote wrote: Dissolved Compounds still remain those compounds and don't change into something else when the water is removed. A free silver ion isn't likely to be very stable and very much wants to share an electron with something. Solutions by their very nature are always neutral. If you have an Ag+ ion, there has to be a (-) ion to balance it. The two together will define the compound. For freshly made EIS the negative ion is the hydroxyl ion, IE OH-, so the silver compound in EIS is actually silver hydroxide. At higher concentrations, silver hydroxide tends to become unstable, and will spontaneouly convert to silver oxide. This could be part of the aging process that occurs when EIS sits, not sure. Question: Does it HAVE to share, or can it's desires be passified as an 'onlooker' or 'groupie', so to speak? Can a free silver ion 'associate' [identify?] itself... around and with... a water molecules opposite valence oxygen componant and become at least 'more' stable without actually becoming a 'compound' made from out of that water molecule? ...a protective attraction vs an absolute reaction.. A silver ion will tend to attact the OH portion of a water molecule, producing silver hydroxide. The remaining H will find a matching one, and form H2 which may remain dissolved or be outgassed over time. Can a cluster of silver atoms that include one or more ions on it's surface to present an ionic 'appearance' to the water molecules also be included in such an attraction? A cluster of silver atoms do often obtain a charge. They are not ions per say I don't believe but just a cluster with a charge. The charge is referred to as the zeta when it is measured. The higher the charge or zeta, the more stable the colloidal portion is. If they have no charge, then they will precipitate. Marshall Warning: Any in depth explanation one way or the other will probably confuse me. Simple answers? Yes, no , maybe sometimes? Ode -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFunny Newscast
I will probably get a note from Mike on this, but it is just too funny to not post. This is from a TV station announcing their coverage of the inauguration ceremonies: http://www.king-cart.com/bush.mp3 Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Xylitol
All mercury was removed several years ago. Still have root canals mostly covered with a porcelan crown. Brickey
RE: CSHow many ppm in CS
RE: CSHow many ppm in CS From: himagain Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 01:59:49 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m77053.html At 11:26 AM 18/01/05, Michael wrote: This was very effective on the Shingles virus and a series of very strong cold sore viruses, and stopped them in their tracks. I was taking 8 oz of about 10 ppm prior, and it had no effect on the Shingles virus, and barely dented the cold sore viruses. Hi Michael, Where did the Shingles appear? Would you mind me passing the message on (no names mentioned) Cheers, Himagain Hi Him, Yes, of course you can tell anyone. I don't know if you saw the url for my web page on Shingles? (Caution - graphic photos of human suffering:) http://www.geocities.com/mrmonett/shingles/0shin.htm The cs I was making at the time stopped the infection. But it came back a year later, and the regular cs had no effect. I believe Trem had a repeat infection also. This is supposed to be fairly common, so it might be a good idea to anticipate it and make preparations. Much to my astonishment, the higher ppm cs I was experimenting with at the time killed it. This is what convinced me that ions are what kill bacteria and viruses, that sublingual absorption is better than than drinking the cs, and high ion concentration is much more effective. This is what led me to develop Silversol. The blisters first appeared in the back on both sides along the belt line. There is a name for that region but I don't know what it is. This is a very treacherous area for Shingles to appear, since you can't see it and you are completely unaware of the symptoms and what they mean. At this stage in the infection, literally minutes count, since this is when the damage is being done. The @#$%!^%* doctor misdiagnosed it as a sprained muscle and said to take aspirin. Meanwhile, the virus was eating away at the nerve sheath and setting the stage for the extreme pain to come. But I believe the cs also helped in the healing process. One of my Mom's friends just got Shingles in the neck area. This is dangerously close to the face, where nerve damage can cause blindness. I did not find out about it until a week after the first symptoms, but was able to get several litres of ~20uS cs to her right away. I told her to hold 1 oz in the mouth for ten minutes, and soak unbleached tissue in cs and apply it to the blisters. (Thanks to Herx for that suggestion.) The infection stopped and she experienced a minimum of pain. When she told her doctor (also my Mom's doctor), he replied: That is the very best thing you could have done. But I cannot tell you that Or words to that effect. Make of that what you wish:) A strong recommendation is to always have several liters of good cs on hand. You never know when someone will need large quantities for Shingles, burns, or other emergencies. I hope I answered your questions. If there's anything I missed, please let me know. All the Best, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew and improved CS
Re: CSNew and improved CS From: Trem Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 07:38:36 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m77057.html Hi Mike, Are you speaking about clear glass containers or ones that have patterning on them? Lead or something in a glaze can certainly leach into the water but I cannot imagine clear glass leaching anything. Are they colored glass? The PWT is a pretty good little toy isn't it. They pack a lot inside if you've pulled the guts out to take a look. Glad you're pleased. I was pretty sure it was all hype but thought the list members should see their latest press release. Trem Hi Trem, Of course I took it apart - what do you think I am, an accountant?:) Yes, I am extremely pleased. I would like it to shut off automatically when I forget, and it would be nice to have Kelvin sensing (4 electrodes, two driving and two sensing), and I wish it could handle much smaller volumes of cs, and I wish it handled temperature extremes better. But it's here, it works, and it is giving me the readings I expect to see from the Faraday calculations. I am Very Happy!!! The glass containers are from a Dollarama store. They have a white rubber sealing ring and a top that closes with a wire mechanism. There is a name for these things, but I don't know what it is. They are very common for cooking and use in the kitchen. But after seeing what they do to cs, I'm not sure I'd want to eat anything from them:) There are good threads on sci.chem and sci.electronics.design on dw and leaching ions from glass. Sorry I don't have the links at the moment, but here's the google (Canadian style) urls: sci.electronics.design: http://tinyurl.com/5kn9w sci.chem: http://tinyurl.com/4s5pr Thanks for posting the info on Clifton Mining. I'm pretty sure they are crooks. Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew and improved CS
Re: CSNew and improved CS From: Trem Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 07:38:36 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m77057.html Hi Mike, Are you speaking about clear glass containers or ones that have patterning on them? Lead or something in a glaze can certainly leach into the water but I cannot imagine clear glass leaching anything. Are they colored glass? The PWT is a pretty good little toy isn't it. They pack a lot inside if you've pulled the guts out to take a look. Glad you're pleased. I was pretty sure it was all hype but thought the list members should see their latest press release. Trem Hi Trem, Of course I took it apart - what do you think I am, an accountant?:) Yes, I am extremely pleased. I would like it to shut off automatically when I forget, and it would be nice to have Kelvin sensing (4 electrodes, two driving and two sensing), and I wish it could handle much smaller volumes of cs, and I wish it handled temperature extremes better. But it's here, it works, and it is giving me the readings I expect to see from the Faraday calculations. I am Very Happy!!! The glass containers are from a Dollarama store. They have a white rubber sealing ring and a top that closes with a wire mechanism. There is a name for these things, but I don't know what it is. They are very common for cooking and use in the kitchen. But after seeing what they do to cs, I'm not sure I'd want to eat anything from them:) There are good threads on sci.chem and sci.electronics.design on dw and leaching ions from glass. Sorry I don't have the links at the moment, but here's the google (Canadian style) urls: sci.electronics.design: http://tinyurl.com/5kn9w sci.chem: http://tinyurl.com/4s5pr Thanks for posting the info on Clifton Mining. I'm pretty sure they are scams. All the Best, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew and improved CS,
Sorry for the dupe - Netscape went beserk and I didn't realize it had sent the version I was working on. (Sigh) Well anyway, now you can see how my thinking process works... Best, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRejoining
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CSRejoining List
Hello Folks, I am rejoining the listprimarily as an interested recipient. The immediately-past months have been busy and somewhat demanding of mine and Sylvia's time. Additionally, my co-founding Foundation partner and dearest friend of fifty years (Eric Harborne) passed away the last week of December, 2004---climaxing an overly-eventful year for us. I have missed the comradeship of the members on the Silver-List, and certainly, the enthusiastic efforts of all to share their talents and experiences. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- ___ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRejoining List
Welcome back Brooks. My sympathies to you on the loss of your dearest friend. I hope you have a new home and that 2005 will be a happy year for you and Sylvia. You have been missed. Teri Johnston -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.302 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.302 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSOvarian cysts
I have been diagnosed with an ovarian cyst. I first discovered a small mass in my abdomen in about June of 04. I know I should have gone to the doctor sooner but to be honest I just kept praying whatever it was would go away. I had an ultrasound done about two weeks ago. They said it measured about 11cm and probably weighs 5 to 6 pounds. The doctor says it does not look suspicious but, it will have to be surgically removed and they will also have to take my ovary. They gave me a Ca-125 test and a pap smear to check for cancer. Everything has come back normal. Any suggestions
Re: CSNew and improved CS
Hi All! Yes... While I don't consider ASAP to be the best thing that has ever happened to CS production, I can say that they do take the time to at least test their product, and, in the end, it is an EIS product that does work. They have some good and informed key distributors which I am in contact with often, and the key bulk distributors are very decent and caring people. Many of the real life results that they occasionally forward to me are impressive-- but not unexpected with any decent isolated silver product. They've done some good work with the EPA, and while I haven't been overly impressed with the independent lab studies that I've seen ( outside of the work done by BYU ), I believe their product has, ultimately, been quite good for the colloidal silver cause... Unlike MANY of the CS marketeers out there. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 10:05 AM Subject: Re: CSNew and improved CS At 03:11 PM 1/19/2005 -0800, you wrote: Hi List, Check this one. Anybody have any knowledge about what they're doing that enhances the CS? Or do you think it's hype? Trem I'd be be looking for independent verification and specific claims. ASAP isn't especially known for full disclosure and maximum truthfullness. Most everything I've read that was written by that bunch, including this piece, was designed to 'not' inform while appearing to say something meaningful. when compared to other silver products [Which other silver products? It doesn't say 'all' other or 'any particular' other, either. Stated that way, if it's better than ANY other, the statement is true.] Professor Rustum Roy... is who's scientist? A patent application isn't a patent grant and a patent grant doesn't mean it's any good if scrutinized. The patent office doesn't engage in very much scrutiny. These things are more about intimidation and bragging rights claims than anything else. If any attempt at honesty is being made, the patent numbers will be prominant. Keyword searches in the patent office archives generally bring up hundreds of nearly identical patents whos only differences amount to useless insertions and unverified assertions. Ode Clifton Mining Company - New Discoveries Lead To New Patents Filed ALPINE, UT, Jan. 19 /CNW/ - Clifton Mining Company (Clifton)(OTC:CFTN) announces that American Biotech Labs, a private company in which Clifton holds over 1.5 million shares, has recently filed a new patent application containing new and exciting data and results. Laboratory work from several US-based institutions, has verified that American Biotech Labs' silver products possess some very unique and important physical properties which appear to be quite different from other commercially available colloidal silvers. Further, significant new uses and product modifications have also been discovered and included in the patent filing. Unique Fingerprint -- Work completed so far indicates that American Biotech Labs' products are distinguishable from every other silver product tested. The unique structure/composition of the products inherently result from the already patented process. This unique structure/composition seems to result in a different efficacy of the silver products, when compared to existing colloidal silvers. The work was headed by the leading materials science laboratory in the world at the Pennsylvania State University, and was personally led by Professor Rustum Roy, regarded as one of the top materials scientists in the world. Testing was also performed by distinguished scientists at Arizona State University (and other locations), all of which were under the direction of Professor Roy. This work, may help explain why American Biotech Labs' products are so much more effective as antimicrobials, at very low concentration levels of silver, when compared to other silver products, some of which contain hundreds of times higher silver concentrations. This characterization work is ongoing and should result in an ever better understanding of why the products of American Biotech Labs are superior, and could also provide new pathways for potential product improvements. Said Keith Moeller, VP, We are delighted with this new patent application, we believe it dramatically strengthens our patent protection. Clifton trades on the U.S. OTC: (CFTN). Note: Any statements released by Clifton Mining Company that are forward looking are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Editors and investors are cautioned that forward looking statements invoke risk and uncertainties that may affect the company's business prospects and performance. For further information: Dr. Ken Friedman, President at (303) 642-0659, Keith Moeller, Vice
Re: CSRejoining List
My goodness, it is good to have you back! JBB On Friday, Jan 21, 2005, at 13:55 Asia/Tokyo, Brooks Bradley wrote: Hello Folks, I am rejoining the listprimarily as an interested recipient. The immediately-past months have been busy and somewhat demanding of mine and Sylvia's time. Additionally, my co-founding Foundation partner and dearest friend of fifty years (Eric Harborne) passed away the last week of December, 2004---climaxing an overly-eventful year for us. I have missed the comradeship of the members on the Silver-List, and certainly, the enthusiastic efforts of all to share their talents and experiences. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- ___ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/ default.asp?SRC=lycos10 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSiontophoresis
... The promise of electromedicine and silver is absolutely astounding. The best practical example is with the treatment of subdermal cystic conditions, which resist almost any direct treatment modalities. However, there are big concerns with the amount of current being delivered into the body, and the path(s) through tissues, i.e. the travel of current in the body... It is very easy to induce localized argyria by using too much current and silver when working with damaged tissue; I have a tiny grey/black spot on my face which was the result of my early experimentations which did not include proper current control... I was just too excited to test ideas, and just couldn't help myself! *grins* Where I went wrong with my zealous haste: The first few seconds were fine; I wasn't using a conductive gel; the tingling sensation which followed was interesting, and I wanted to explore the feeling; and I had tested normal healthy tissue first, on the arm, and had no problem; I didn't realize how greatly current travel could differ between healthy and damaged/healing tissues. I didn't want the experiment to fail, so I continued despite the sensations which would normally serve as warning. My mistake, made a few years ago, which I like to view rather as a great and fun learning experiment, is easy to avoid. All of the devices I currently have still can produce too much current; the current is fine for tissues that are healthy, but with damaged tissue, the conductivity increases, and dramatically. The ideal device would allow absolute current control, according to the specs laid out by Dr. Robert O. Becker, and be used with a conductive gel and two silver electrodes. The electrode spacing should be adjusted to the edges of the area being treated. DC current should be used, with a pulsing mechanism to help control the current travel ( paths of current flow ) in the body ( we only want to deliver a small amount of silver ions into the body, not utilize the current and electricity for therapuetic purposes ). Based only upon my rough estimates from personal experience, it takes between 2-5 seconds for paths of current to be established in the body's tissues.10 second pulses, I estimate, would be about right if one is using the proper amount of current, with, perhaps, two second pauses... HOWEVER, this is based only upon my subjective and limited experimentation, and much more work needs to be done. All of that said, my experimentations to date HAVE been amazingly effective. Bacteria and virii can be effectively killed using silver iontophoresis, where silver applied topically fails. However, I still do not have a device that performs the way I'd like it to; potentiometers can be used to allow scalable adjustments to the amount of current being delivered, and there should be an indicator that indicates when a circuit has actually been established. We then need to study the miminal amount of current flow required to effectively deliver silver ions to the treatment area. This will, likely, vary from situation to situation. I like to leave the engineering of such things to those who are proficient in engineering. Such devices exist, but they are wildly over-priced, at least for my purposes! It should be possible to deliver silver ions directly into the bloodstream utilizing silver iontophoresis. My advice to those who would experiment with such things is to read Body Electric and Cross Currents, by Dr. Robert O. Becker, VERY carefully, and take his word as golden. TENS units were produced based entirely upon his work, and it should be noted that Dr. Becker DID NOT agree with the amount of current being delivered into the body via these devices. Dr. Becker was trying to emmulate the amount of current that is NATURALLY used by the body. His methodology was easier, as he was a surgeon, and could actually implant the silver electrodes in the body. The state of his works is both sad and heroic. He likely saved many, many lives in New York ( see Cross Currents ), but it cost him both his lab, and his funding, when he was on the brink of true organ regeneration in humans. His work will not be completed unless an independent researcher with a good amount of financial resources completes it. While Dr. Becker is still publishing, his ability to actually do research is now quite limited, even if he was given the resources. On more than one occasion, I've literally begged for independant analysis and funding for independent research centering upon his works. The world is not interested, and when they are, they tend to distort his original findings... seeking an easier, softer way than the truth. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 11:25 AM Subject: Re: CStetrasil Jason has been looking into it for a while. Ode At 09:04 PM 1/20/2005 +1000, you wrote: At 10:05 PM 18/01/05, you
Re: CSRejoining List
... Brooks! You are beloved likely more than you shall know! ...it saddens me knowing the turmoil you have had to face in the last year ( I can relate!! ). It joys me to see that you have endured, and have rejoined us. My warmest heart-felt regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Jim Holmes ami...@starband.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 10:02 PM Subject: RE: CSRejoining List WELCOME BACK DEAR FREND AND MENTOR. Jim -Original Message- From: Brooks Bradley [mailto:brooks76...@lycos.com] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 9:56 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRejoining List Hello Folks, I am rejoining the listprimarily as an interested recipient. The immediately-past months have been busy and somewhat demanding of mine and Sylvia's time. Additionally, my co-founding Foundation partner and dearest friend of fifty years (Eric Harborne) passed away the last week of December, 2004---climaxing an overly-eventful year for us. I have missed the comradeship of the members on the Silver-List, and certainly, the enthusiastic efforts of all to share their talents and experiences. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- ___ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp ?SRC=lycos10 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.13 - Release Date: 01/16/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.13 - Release Date: 01/16/2005
