Re: CSRe: controversey
Robert Berger wrote: Hi Cari, The blue man is a US Representative that made his home brew EIS (aka CS) using Montana well water. Most farm wells are contaminated with fram fertilizer, which has a high level of nitrates. So what he was making was silver nitrate, which will turn one blue. That is odd, previously you were claiming that you had never read that ionic forms of silver such as silver nitrate could cause argyria, now you are giving an example of it happening. That is why it is recommended to use the best grade of distilled water available. I agree. However Stan being blue in that phoe has more to do with photoshop than his taking this witchs brew of silver compounds. I have seen the original unretouched photo of him, and he is no more blue than anyone else. Associate Press doctored the photo, either because they thought it would make a better story, or they got paid to do so by pharm interests. He is slightly ashen colored though. Marshall Too many thousands of home brews are around that can testify that there is no problem. Just make it with the proper materials. Ole Bob
Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE
At 11:03 AM 12/15/2005 -0500, you wrote: Greg Ball wrote: I have never seen anywhere that I need to stir. What is this about? The simple answer is...when ions are coming off the electrode thaey are highly concentrated at and near the electrode surface. If you jamb a lot of ions together they will exceed the solubility limit in that localized area and make particles. If you jam a lot of particles very close together, they make bigger particles. If the current density is high, it makes everything even more dense in that spot. Stirring disrupts that high concentration area to a great degree. It also disrupts a tendency for ions to form conductive tracks between the electrodes that increase concentration there and make current run away faster if there are no current controls. Stirring is a big help for any generator setup. Ode -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13 - Release Date: 12/14/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBottles
Arizona Iced tea comes in cobalt blue bottles...but clear glass is just fine. Ode At 11:27 AM 12/15/2005 -0500, you wrote: In a message dated 12/14/05 7:20:17 AM Central Standard Time, pattycake29...@yahoo.com writes: Where would you buy brown glass bottles to store the CS you've made? I buy mine at flea markets, antique malls, yard sales, etc. Brown is good -- I also buy cobalt blue and dark green. MA No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13 - Release Date: 12/14/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13 - Release Date: 12/14/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGatorade, Not so good
At 08:39 AM 12/15/2005 -0800, you wrote: Ode, your comment was more in line with what I was thinking about absorption re stomach, food poisioning or other mysterious aliments, so that its properties could inactivate toxins.Effectiveness would also be linked, it would seem anyway, with ppm. ## PPM where? 1 oz at 10 PPM has the same amount of silver in it that 2 oz at 5 PPM has. If you put the same amount of silver into a larger container [body] you get the same PPM there. No dosing recommendations I've ever seen has ever taken into account where, to what and how any given dose size at any given PPM is applied to what volume of recipient and therefore, makes absolutely no sense. [Nevermind a hundred other variable factors] If your CS is water cheap, it doesn't really make much difference what PPM it is, so long as you use enough to do what you want it to do. A final dilution factor as little as a few parts per billion may be enough to do the job in some amount of time. Making the dilution stronger just reduces the time. If baddies are replicating fast, the kill rate has to be faster than that and a higher concentration of silver 'after' it's applied, will increase the kill rate, that's all. But that has little to do with the PPM of the CS being used. The difference is in the amount of water. The hundred other factors prevents predicting what that final dilution will be and where, regardless of how strong the CS is, so it all comes down to intuition. It's total nonscience. Weak, strong and rocket fuel 'opinions' are just as useful as a PPM meter. If you made a face, slug down less. How much less is a total guess. If you can't stand up, slug down more and make a face? A PPM meter serves to place a number on the face you make. If it's a #20 face, use less. If you can't stay awake to MAKE a face..never mind numbers, drink all of it, groan a little and make some more. LOL When I make CS for myself, I don't even bother to check the numbers. I just think about why I made it and let the ole 'buds' do the amount and frequency decisions. Like , humm, this 'feels' like it's going to take a fair amount of rocket fuel sipped on all day long. Bingo bango, that's what I make and slug it down as the ick mood intensity determines. If I forget, I didn't need to remember. If something is reminding me, I won't forget. Ode My preference would be...first, CS straight, in good quantity, then perhaps, CS with gatoraid. Carol Ann Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: Ahh, but if it absorbs that fast, it's not likely to ever reach the digestive tract to enhance toxin absorption, or kill toxin producing bacteria. If that's the goal, it's best to not have the CS be absorbed fast so it will reach the digestive tract...so, don't use Gatoraid for that. Or, alternate the two, plain CS first...big gulp! for the liquefied gut, then a Gatorized gulp for the blood [if you think CS will neutralize toxins there]. Hey, even if it won't, why not? Ode At 03:30 PM 12/14/2005 -0800, you wrote: Would it stand to reason that if Gatoraid acts as an absorbtion enhancer of CS it would also do the same for the cause of the food poisining, thus delivering the toxin faster into the digestive tracts. Ode Coyote wrote: ## That could be an indication that Gatoraid enhances absorbtion rate so well that little or none of the CS made it to the stomach. Ode At 01:15 PM 12/13/2005 -0600, you wrote: Recently, a dentist and his partner got some bad food at a restaurant, getting very sick to their stomachs. They drank some CS with Gatorade with no effect but as soon as they took straight CS, problem solved. This leads me to the conclusion that CS with Gatorade is only useful with a systemic problem out! side of digestive problems. Anyone have a similar encounter? stuff At 08:34 AM 12/13/2005, Ode wrote: ## No componant in Gatoraid complements CS ** CS should be added immediately before consumption to prevent chemical changes in the CS. Gatoraid is NOT** good for CS, however Formation of silver chloride takes a little bit of time. Gatoraid enhances absorption rate in the stomach [if it even gets 'to' the stomach] much like DMSO does for skin absorption and will gt! ;carry the CS into the bloodstream before it has time to react with the Chlorides in the Gatoraid. You can drink water and feel it hit bottom. I've never felt Gatoraid hit bottom. Gatoraid absorbs almost as fast as an injection and was used a lot ! back in the 70s to piggyback other things so as to speed up catching a buzz with LSD, alchohol ..or you name it. It worked amazingly fast...if one was careless...all too well. ** Marshall stated an interesting alternative viewpoint. Ode I ask again, what component in Gatorade complements CS? Wayne No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus
Re: CSSilver ions in Colloidial Silver
Most likely much of these batches have a high silver carbonate. Silver carbonate is highly unstable and thus very prone to change from any outside influences. ## That's a possibility, however, silver carbonate is light sensitive and this way strong stuff stays on a sunny window sill unchanged for weeks and weeks. I store all my CS there just to see what happens. Nothing hardly ever does. The container/generator setup is fairly well sealed from air circulation with very little air space. [3 or 4 CCs in air volume with a 2 diameter of exposed surface area?] Ode Perhaps past that 25-30 uS solubility limit other configurations of oxides start forming??? [Silver Peroxides and Tetroxides maybe?] That is another possibility that I have not previously considered. Marshall Ode At 10:18 AM 12/14/2005 -0700, you wrote: Why do the silver ions in a dissolved salt have the possibility of causing Argyria and the free ions in a mixture of colloidal and ionic silver not do that? Jim No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13 - Release Date: 12/13/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13 - Release Date: 12/14/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/200 - Release Date: 12/14/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13 - Release Date: 12/14/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13 - Release Date: 12/14/2005
CScs as an injection ?!?
Hi .. So if i have pain in my neck ..Can i take an injection just under skin .How much salt/dose/strenght of cs can i use.. .I think this can be a cure for inflammation ..?? /peter
Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE
Also known as Potentiometer Variable resistor and officially: The thing you twist to adjust stuff...like the volume knob on a radio Ode At 08:55 AM 12/15/2005 -0800, you wrote: Okay guys, What is a Trimpot? Sasha ---Original Message--- From: Sol Date: 12/14/05 17:45:25 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Trem, Thanks! I'm not unhappy with 14 or 15 US. And if the use of the 1.2 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/200 - Release Date: 12/14/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13 - Release Date: 12/14/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13 - Release Date: 12/14/2005
Re: CScs as an injection ?!?
You can do anything you want, Peter. Please write back and let me know what happens. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScs as an injection ?!?
At 01:06 PM 12/15/2005 -0500, you wrote: It should be isotonic due to osmosis. Basically the inside and outside of a cell has the same electrolytic levels, so there is osmotic pressure through the wall. If you suddenly expose the cell to non isotonic liquid a flow will occur through the wall. If the fluid has a lower electrolyte content, then the flow will be into the cell, ## Sounds like shotgunning CS into the cells will be the result. and can damage, kill or even burst it. ## I suppose shotguns could do that. How about a fire hose?..you know, not enough CS to dilute the salt content of the blood so completely and rapidly, like an IV drip? Ode Marshall debbie cozens wrote: could you explain this to me??Debbie Nina Whit ninaw...@webtv.net wrote: Any injection must be isotonic. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orghttp://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail/uk/taglines/default/cars/*http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/Yahoo! Cars NEW - sell your car and browse thousands of new and used cars online http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail/uk/taglines/default/cars/*http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/search now No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13 - Release Date: 12/14/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13 - Release Date: 12/14/2005
Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE
I suppose then, the question is, how do you make your home made? PS What sort of microscope can see particles? [ I've seen your micrographs. They're great and actually showed colloidal particles in the water not dissolved ions..but what instrument was used to take those photos?] Ode At 10:24 PM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote: I must differ with you. It was my experience...I took my homemade CS (16-24 oz. per day of approx 10ppm) for 2 1/2 years and got better BUT painfully slow. Thanks to this list, I learned about H2o2 and began adding it to my CS 1 drop 3% per 2 oz. of CS)I saw improvement much quicker...Finally I learned about Sovereign Silver and with in months was very much improved. People who have MS and started with Sovereign Silver saw results quicker then I did with my homemade. For most uses everyday I would say 1-2 oz. of home made per day is great, and topically, there is NOTHING better...but for a disease ie: cancer, MS, lupus, fibromyalgia, Lyme, etcI would do Sovereign Silver (At least a combination of both home made and Sovereign Silver). Nancy - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:24 AM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE That is really interesting. I had thought the general idea was one would have to use more of our homemade to be as effective as the SS. thanks, sol Ode Coyote wrote: No difference at all includes observations on effectiveness per amount used. Of course, using more becomes quite affordable. Ode At 10:08 AM 12/14/2005 -0700, you wrote: Even if there was a difference, since SS recommends tiny dosages, couldn't Silverpuppy and Silvergen users just drink more? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/204 - Release Date: 12/15/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/200 - Release Date: 12/14/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13 - Release Date: 12/14/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1 - Release Date: 12/15/2005
Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE
And since Ode just wrote and made some good points about consistency and setting a protocol for using one's CS. I don't think I'll mess with my SG-6. Both the SG-6 and my magnetic stir Silverpuppy produce CS that tests to within 1 uS of each other, which means I don't have to adjust intake for any differences. If it isn't broke, don't break it. sol Stuff wrote: Agreed and I've had the same results. Haven't tried to re-process. I'm happy with the results also. stuff -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS and my 35 kids in jail
Dear Faith, I did not intend anything but praise for you in my previous mail. I would be doing the same thing here if I could, and I do what I can short of giving kids in public school free CS. Here, they would put you in the slammer in a blink. I did not mean that in any way to disparage you or your actions. Keep it up, and do more. The freedom of the people under U.S. jurisdiction has not existed since the Civil War. It is a Public Relations myth generated by the government. Land of the fee and home of the slave. My apology for any offence you felt; it was not on my mind. Jim -Original Message- From: Faith Saint Francis [mailto:faithstfran...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 7:53 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCS and my 35 kids in jail I received two most wonderful, yet very cold-shower like reactions by Mr. Dudley and Mr. Holmes to my message about CS, as used in my class. Allow me to remark: 1 I am not in America, nor am I in the US jurisdiction 2 I did NOT present CS as a medicine (or a 'drug' as was suggested; the association would be very painful after our attemps to clear the minds of our kids from the drugs assault). 3 The parents of the kids concerned know what I am doing, both with CS and with Reflexology, so does the head-master of the school where I work. * Most of all: When a child is in whatever problem, I shall be of service, to help and heal, law or no law. I must say that mentioned remarks about being jailed for doing good made me wonder about the worth of going on promoting CS. Faith St Francis _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver in the not so new news
OTOH, the silver bandage products Silverlon and Acticoat do have FDA approval. Another admission silver does work on the part of the FDA. Or so it would seem. And I happen to have a letter written by a pet owner detailing a successful protocol for treating dental abscesses in a pet rabbit with the use of Rx antibiotics with the addition of injected CS/DMSO injected into the abscesses and then packing the abscess wounds with Acticoat. It is the sole successful case of treatment I'm aware of in an extremely advanced case of dental abscess disease in a rabbit. I have always felt the real miracle in it was that the owner found a vet willing to try CS and DMSO. sol Marshall Dudley wrote: Hmmm, then even the FDA now says that silver nanoparticles (AKA colloidal silver) kills bacteria and all. I noticed they are now saying that the reason why they do not classify it as an antibiotic is not because it does not kill pathogens, which they now admit it does, but because they classify an antibiotic as having to be produced by a living organism. Nice Butt covering. h -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS and my 35 kids in jail
Faith Saint Francis wrote: I received two most wonderful, yet very cold-shower like reactions by Mr. Dudley and Mr. Holmes to my message about CS, as used in my class. Allow me to remark: 1 I am not in America, nor am I in the US jurisdiction 2 I did NOT present CS as a medicine (or a 'drug' as was suggested; the association would be very painful after our attemps to clear the minds of our kids from the drugs assault). 3 The parents of the kids concerned know what I am doing, both with CS and with Reflexology, so does the head-master of the school where I work. * Most of all: When a child is in whatever problem, I shall be of service, to help and heal, law or no law. I must say that mentioned remarks about being jailed for doing good made me wonder about the worth of going on promoting CS. Faith St Francis Well unfortunately in America you can receive more prison time for saving ones life than for killing them. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: controversey
The ashen grey could be from being in government so long. Why blame the silver? -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:08 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: controversey Robert Berger wrote: Hi Cari, The blue man is a US Representative that made his home brew EIS (aka CS) using Montana well water. Most farm wells are contaminated with fram fertilizer, which has a high level of nitrates. So what he was making was silver nitrate, which will turn one blue. That is odd, previously you were claiming that you had never read that ionic forms of silver such as silver nitrate could cause argyria, now you are giving an example of it happening. That is why it is recommended to use the best grade of distilled water available. I agree. However Stan being blue in that phoe has more to do with photoshop than his taking this witchs brew of silver compounds. I have seen the original unretouched photo of him, and he is no more blue than anyone else. Associate Press doctored the photo, either because they thought it would make a better story, or they got paid to do so by pharm interests. He is slightly ashen colored though. Marshall Too many thousands of home brews are around that can testify that there is no problem. Just make it with the proper materials. Ole Bob
CSHIV Genome/culture
I sent Marshall's response to my post that AIDS has never been cultured to my friend who is a PhD Microbiologist. Here is his reply: Greetings- I really have to look at the paper in which whoever they are described the gene map of HIV. Till then- I DON'T BELIEVE IT. I asked my neighbor who works at LANL to get me a reference (one will do!) to a paper where the isolation of HIV is described. That was 6 months ago. I remind him every time we get together. NADA. Thanks for the information on colloidal silver. Great stuff. When ever you have time, after all the hassle, give me a call and we will get together. All the best, Moshe -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE
Hi Sol, I tried to email you with the directions but your address was a dud. sol...@sweetwaterhas.com email me and I'll give you the method. I hope this helps you, Best regards, Trem Williams customer_serv...@silvergen.com www.silvergen.com - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 5:44 PM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Trem, Thanks! I'm not unhappy with 14 or 15 uS. And if the use of the 1.2 multiplication factor is still good to use, that means actual ppm is around 18, which is fine with me. But if you would email me how to adjust the trimpot that would be great. Unless it is obvious which way one would turn it? I think I'd like to try it just to have a bit of fun. sol Trem wrote: Hi Sol, The internal shutoff adjustment would take care of it. It's a simple adjustment of a trimpot. I hope this helps you, Best regards, Trem Williams customer_serv...@silvergen.com www.silvergen.com - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:15 PM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Trem, It does increase the shut off point a little, but certainly not up to 20 uS. This is just my own experience. Indeed to get to 16.5 uS I already have spread the electrodes about a half inch farther apart at bottom than they are at their attachment points. I also reduced the level of the water in the jar by 1/4 inch. 16.5 is it for me, unless I then clean electrodes and re-process, which only gets me about another 1.0 uS . All in all the messing about isn't worth it for the increase (my opinion only). 14.9 uS is really not that far off 16.5 uS in terms of effectiveness, so far as I can tell. sol Trem wrote: Hi Stuff, Either spread the electrodes a little further apart or don't immerse them as deep in the water. That will increase the PPM shutoff point. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. Mark Twain
Re: CSCs and my 35 kids
In a message dated 12/15/05 9:24:03 PM Central Standard Time, ami...@starband.net writes: One of the biggest mind-control techniques in use today is convince everyone that Mojo stuff does not work. Exactly what does *Mojo* mean, anyway? MA
Re: CSBottles
In a message dated 12/16/05 7:31:55 AM Central Standard Time, odecoy...@alltel.net writes: Arizona Iced tea comes in cobalt blue bottles It does? All I've ever seen is clear bottles. However -- Skyy Vodka comes in beautiful cobalt blue bottles!!! :-D MA
Re: CSBottles
marmar...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 12/16/05 7:31:55 AM Central Standard Time, odecoy...@alltel.net writes: Arizona Iced tea comes in cobalt blue bottles It does? All I've ever seen is clear bottles. However -- Skyy Vodka comes in beautiful cobalt blue bottles!!! :-D MA What is the purpose of using a colored bottle? Well made CS will absorb light only in the UV region, and regular glass will absorb in the uv region. If your EIS is yellow or gold then that means that it is absorbing in the violet and blue region. To degrade it HAS to absorb light, so that means that to prevent degradation you should block light of the color it absorbs in. Since a cobalt blue blocks all but the blue and violet light, it would not help at all, you need something that blocks blue and violet, which will give the compliment color which is yellow or brown. Marshall
Re: CSCANSEMA Salve -- progress with eschar - successful conclusion
This is to let you know that this evening the eschar on my husband's back came away leaving smooth pink skin where it had been. Comparing the eschar with the scab that came off early in the piece, I notice that it is less than half the diameter, so the eschar has been shrivelling up. The skin that looked as if it was healing after having been covered by a scab looked that way because it had indeed been covered once. The size of the original scab corresponds with the size of the healing site with its skin edge all around. Two or three of the pictures I took with the digital camera were quite successful. I tried to scan the two pieces this evening to compare and contrast, but blow me down if that jolly thing isn't refusing its duty now. Says a cable is loose or something; what nonsense. May have to reinstall the program tomorrow. This has all taken place with absolutely no pain, and with occasional itching only. Despite the scare when the top was dislodged, all seems to have progressed well. Now we have the healing cream on the site. Rowena -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCs and my 35 kids
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclientie=UTF-8rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-01,GGLD:enq=define%3AMojo - Original Message - Exactly what does *Mojo* mean, anyway? MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCs and my 35 kids
Magic. -Original Message- From: marmar...@aol.com [mailto:marmar...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 9:49 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCs and my 35 kids In a message dated 12/15/05 9:24:03 PM Central Standard Time, ami...@starband.net writes: One of the biggest mind-control techniques in use today is convince everyone that Mojo stuff does not work. Exactly what does *Mojo* mean, anyway? MA
CSMojo
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Re: CSCs and my 35 kids
Jim Holmes wrote: Magic. Although the definition did say magic, the rest of the definition indicated it really means majick. Marshall
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2005 #800
Type 1 Diabetes Maybe the medication she had already taken had such adverse effects on liver and pancreas??? Maybe milk thistle and NAC will help detoxify. And if the drug allowed 'critters' to proliferate in the pancreas, then electricity can be used to maybe clear them out. The microelectricitygermkiller group at YAHOO help with this. A magnetic pulser can get the inside of the the organs involved. Hope this helps. pj
Re: CSCs and my 35 kids
In a message dated 12/16/05 11:34:54 AM Central Standard Time, mdud...@king-cart.com writes: Although the definition did say magic, the rest of the definition indicated it really means majick. And the difference would be?MA
RE: CSRe: controversey
Marshall, Bull S--t, I never said that ionic forms of silver!! I said ionic silverl, you know the type we make with DW and silver in an electrolysis cell. Get your act togehter. Ole Bob That is odd, previously you were claiming that you had never read that ionic forms of silver such as silver nitrate could cause argyria, now you are giving an example of it happening.
Re: CSCs and my 35 kids
Magic is trickery, and illusion, like David Copperfield and Houdini did. Magick is using non physical energies to work with, like witchcraft (black and white), divining, putting curses on people or things, true teleportation and levitation. Although David Blaine claims to be only doing magic, and most of his tricks are, I sometimes wonder if he is actually using magick at times. Marshall marmar...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 12/16/05 11:34:54 AM Central Standard Time, mdud...@king-cart.com writes: Although the definition did say magic, the rest of the definition indicated it really means majick. And the difference would be?MA
Re: CSCANSEMA Salve -- progress with eschar - successful conclusion
I too have been experimenting with cansema and its effects on skin cancers. I had over the months developed an island of raised skin covering the front 1/3 of my nose which in places had turned purple, and in one place flaked and left raw. I applied the new cansema salve to the affected area a week ago Tues, and am now in my 10th day. After about 6-7days my nose was quite sore and had grown about 1/16-1/8 of eschar before it started a gradual slof- fing. The sloffing has stopped now and the majority of eschar is gone, but my nose is somewhat pitted in places, like having been in a car accident or fight. I received many com- ments at work during this process as you might imagine(I didn't have my nose covered the total time). Some of the pits(gouges) seem about 1/8 deep and started to ooze, so I cleaned with h2o2 and applied Neosporin to stop infection and help heal. As of now my nose looks and feels like cardboard, but I feel time will heal. Pete
CSMojo
In a message dated 12/16/05 12:22:52 PM Central Standard Time, mdud...@king-cart.com writes: Magick is using non physical energies to work with, like witchcraft (black and white), divining, putting curses on people or things, true teleportation and levitation. Interesting. Thanks. MA
Re: CSRe: controversey
Robert Berger wrote: Marshall, Bull S--t, I never said that ionic forms of silver!! I said ionic silverl, you know the type we make with DW and silver in an electrolysis cell. What is the difference between ionic silver and ionic forms of silver? That is simply two ways of expressing the same thing. In the case of EIS then you are talking about silver oxide, silver hydroxide and traces of silver carbonate. Those are three of the ionic forms of silver, and they have all been proven to cause argyria when taken alone with no colloidal component present. What's your point? Marshall Get your act togehter. Ole Bob
Re: CSHIV Genome/culture
Let me know what he finds out. Also you might ask him, if the HIV virus does not exist, then the antibody of what virus does the HIV test test for? Marshall Jim Holmes wrote: I sent Marshall's response to my post that AIDS has never been cultured to my friend who is a PhD Microbiologist. Here is his reply: Greetings- I really have to look at the paper in which whoever they are described the gene map of HIV. Till then- I DON'T BELIEVE IT. I asked my neighbor who works at LANL to get me a reference (one will do!) to a paper where the isolation of HIV is described. That was 6 months ago. I remind him every time we get together. NADA. Thanks for the information on colloidal silver. Great stuff. When ever you have time, after all the hassle, give me a call and we will get together. All the best, Moshe -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCANSEMA Salve -- progress with eschar - successful conclusion
In a message dated 12/16/05 12:25:13 PM Central Standard Time, panamp...@aol.com writes: The sloffing has stopped now and the majority of eschar is gone What is an eschar? MA (full of questions today)
Re: CSCANSEMA Salve -- progress with eschar - successful conclusion
It is the scab that forms over the treated area and is sloughed off as the healing begins.
CSRe: CS HOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE
Hi Nancy. If I was using an cs pro gen and adding backing soda to my brew it, that could be painfully slowww and then to buy Sovereign Silver, that would be too much pain for me. I looked at my homebrew under a microscope and it was so small I couldnt see it. Sam L --- On Thu 12/15, Nancy DeLise nancym...@prodigy.net wrote: From: Nancy DeLise [mailto: nancym...@prodigy.net] To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:24:28 -0600 Subject: Re: CS HOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE I must differ with you. It was my experience...I took my homemade CS (16-24oz. per day of approx 10ppm) for 2 1/2 years and got better BUT painfullyslow. Thanks to this list, I learned about H2o2 and began adding it to myCS 1 drop 3% per 2 oz. of CS)I saw improvement much quicker...Finally Ilearned about Sovereign Silver and with in months was very much improved.People who have MS and started with Sovereign Silver saw results quickerthen I did with my homemade.For most uses everyday I would say 1-2 oz. of home made per day is great,and topically, there is NOTHING better...but for a disease ie: cancer, MS,lupus, fibromyalgia, Lyme, etcI would do Sovereign Silver (At least acombination of both home made and Sovereign Silver).Nancy- Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:24 AMSubject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE That is really interesting. I had thought the general idea was one would have to use more of our homemade to be as effective as the SS. thanks, sol Ode Coyote wrote: No difference at all includes observations on effectiveness per amount used. Of course, using more becomes quite affordable. Ode At 10:08 AM 12/14/2005 -0700, you wrote: Even if there was a difference, since SS recommends tiny dosages, couldn't Silverpuppy and Silvergen users just drink more? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/204 - Release Date: 12/15/2005 ___ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com
Re: CSCs and my 35 kids
Uhhh Marshall, I AM privy to much of Blaines stuff. Definitly magic! He's a sophisticated performer! Chuck Not one shred of evidence exists in favor of the idea that life is serious. On 12/16/2005 7:21:28 PM, Marshall Dudley (mdud...@king-cart.com) wrote: Magic is trickery, and illusion, like David Copperfield and Houdini did. Magick is using non physical energies to work with, like witchcraft (black and white), divining, putting curses on people or things, true teleportation and levitation. Although David Blaine claims to be only doing magic, and most of his tricks are, I sometimes wonder if he is actually using magick at times. Marshall marmar...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 12/16/05 11:34:54 AM Central Standard Time, mdud...@king-cart.com writes: Although the definition did say magic, the rest o -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 and EIS
Hi Nancy, What magnification did you use to make your mesurements. When I took 2 ounces of 8.8 PPM EIS that had no T. E. in it even in a dark room and add th drop of H2O2 I find that a T. E. developes, and to me indicates that agglomeration has set it. This is most disturbing. One other person adds 4 cc of 35% to a quart of EIS. When I did that the T.E. less EIS developed a strong T.E. and has a haze to it. Something does not compute !!! Ole Bob Nancy DeLise nancym...@prodigy.net wrote: The H2o2 reacts with the silver and breaks up the particles so they become very much smaller. If you look under a microscope at CS, most homemade CS would be about this size: OWhen you add 1 drop of H2o2 3% to 2 oz. of CS and wait about 15 minutes and look in the same microscope the particle size would be about this: o If you look at sovereign silver under the same microscope the particle size is about this: (That's correct, you cannot see anything it is that tiny.) Nancy
Re: CSBottles
Does anyone else here drink Aloe Juice? The 32 oz size is a brown glass bottle. Kel
CSHeating Colloidal Silver
Hey List -- someone here recently mentioned that they routinely use CS as their base water for tea, etc. So my question -- what is the safest way to heat CS for tea, coffee, etc.? Thanks. MA
Re: CSHeating Colloidal Silver
No one has answered my question about heating CS for tea, etc. My Mom is pretty sick and I'm trying to get CS into her any way that I can. Any help here would be appreciated. MA
Re: CSHeating Colloidal Silver
Heating CS increases the likelihood of collision between the particles and subsequent aggregation. Depending on the ppm, ph and the size of the particles to start with, this may occur at a low 120F or a temperature much closer or even beyond to boiling. It will not destroy the CS, but depending on how hot you heat it, could lead to increased particle size and lower effectiveness. The more yellow or color it has, them more likely it will be effected. Marshall marmar...@aol.com wrote: No one has answered my question about heating CS for tea, etc. My Mom is pretty sick and I'm trying to get CS into her any way that I can. Any help here would be appreciated. MA
Re: CSHeating Colloidal Silver
In a message dated 12/16/2005 6:30:49 PM Central Standard Time, mdud...@king-cart.com writes: It will not destroy the CS, but depending on how hot you heat it, could lead to increased particle size and lower effectiveness. The more yellow or color it has, them more likely it will be effected. Thanks for responding Marshall. It's perfectly clear CS, ppm level around 12. I guess that even if it's less effective, if it gets more into her that would be a good thing. Best way to do this in a microwave in a cup? Or on the stove in a porcelain tea kettle? MA
RE: CScs as an injection ?!?
For the retention enema I just used about a half of a cup because I didn't want the urge to expelldeb debbie cozens debbiecoz...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: What quantity can one use for the bladder? and for anm enema? Debbie Deborah Gerard devorah...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I have used cs in a retention enema when my IBS act's up and it really helps clear things up fasterdebbie...the other debbie :) debbie cozens debbiecoz...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: i tried that but was too paranoid so i gave up...wasnt sure how mush i was spraying and what quantity i was allowed to use etc Debbie Jim Holmes ami...@starband.net wrote: A bulb syringe may be used to gently irrigate the bladder of men or w! omen, if there is no structural problem present. -Original Message- ! From: debbie cozens [mailto:debbiecoz...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 12:23 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScs as an injection ?!? LOL...its something ive been wondering about for ages and when i was very ill with a bladderr/ kidney infection..i was very very temptedany one used CS in this form Debbie Peter bilt...@hotmail.com wrote: hi ... One thing i being wondering about ...is it possible to take cs as an injection ?!? I have neck problem from car accident !! /peter - To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. - Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail - To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre.
CSCS and my 35 kids in jail
Ernie wrote: Don't take everything people say so personal. And Jim wrote: I did not intend anything but praise for you in my previous mail. I would be doing the same thing here if I could, and I do what I can. Thanks, Ernie, Jim You're just so right. I have been under a lot of pressure lately; mine is probably the projection of insecurity as to my wife's well being. She is facing a very critical operation .. by destiny, 2000 miles away from me. She'll be operated upon by two specialists, in tandem, next Monday, at 6 in the morning local (Colombian) time, that would be 2 AM, GMT. Thank you and others for your well-intended words, I realize this situation of insecurity makes me a bit acid, 'n ready to blow. Asking for your good intentions concerning my wife's operation and for her recovery. Faith St Francis _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS and my 35 kids in jail
Will do Faith...please keep us posted on what goes ondebbie Faith Saint Francis faithstfran...@hotmail.com wrote: Ernie wrote: Don't take everything people say so personal. And Jim wrote: I did not intend anything but praise for you in my previous mail. I would be doing the same thing here if I could, and I do what I can. Thanks, Ernie, Jim You're just so right. I have been under a lot of pressure lately; mine is probably the projection of insecurity as to my wife's well being. She is facing a very critical operation .. by destiny, 2000 miles away from me. She'll be operated upon by two specialists, in tandem, next Monday, at 6 in the morning local (Colombian) time, that would be 2 AM, GMT. Thank you and others for your well-intended words, I realize this situation of insecurity makes me a bit acid, 'n ready to blow. Asking for your good intentions concerning my wife's operation and for her recovery. Faith St Francis _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CSRe: Heating CS
That is a good question. I know one is not supposed to put metal objects in the microwave. How about teeny tiny metal objects suspended in water? Kel -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSadding h202 to nancy-food poisoning to Deb
There is no need to add H2o2 to Sovereign Silver. I don't think it can get any tinier. For my home made, I use 3% I buy at the local pharmacy. What is the silver product used for food poisoning? Nancy - Original Message - From: Betsy Coffey latimergi...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 1:41 AM Subject: CSadding h202 to nancy-food poisoning to Deb Nancy did you add h202 to the soverign silver as well or just to your homeade? Did you use food grade h202? Deb, did you know that there is a silver product specifically for food poisoning? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/206 - Release Date: 12/16/2005
Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE
Unfortunately I do not know. The brother of a friend took it. He works for the water department in a local community, but I do not know him. I should have gotten that info at the beginning, but did not. I will keep trying. Nancy - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 7:57 AM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE I suppose then, the question is, how do you make your home made? PS What sort of microscope can see particles? [ I've seen your micrographs. They're great and actually showed colloidal particles in the water not dissolved ions..but what instrument was used to take those photos?] Ode At 10:24 PM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote: I must differ with you. It was my experience...I took my homemade CS (16-24 oz. per day of approx 10ppm) for 2 1/2 years and got better BUT painfully slow. Thanks to this list, I learned about H2o2 and began adding it to my CS 1 drop 3% per 2 oz. of CS)I saw improvement much quicker...Finally I learned about Sovereign Silver and with in months was very much improved. People who have MS and started with Sovereign Silver saw results quicker then I did with my homemade. For most uses everyday I would say 1-2 oz. of home made per day is great, and topically, there is NOTHING better...but for a disease ie: cancer, MS, lupus, fibromyalgia, Lyme, etcI would do Sovereign Silver (At least a combination of both home made and Sovereign Silver). Nancy - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:24 AM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE That is really interesting. I had thought the general idea was one would have to use more of our homemade to be as effective as the SS. thanks, sol Ode Coyote wrote: No difference at all includes observations on effectiveness per amount used. Of course, using more becomes quite affordable. Ode At 10:08 AM 12/14/2005 -0700, you wrote: Even if there was a difference, since SS recommends tiny dosages, couldn't Silverpuppy and Silvergen users just drink more? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/204 - Release Date: 12/15/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/200 - Release Date: 12/14/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13 - Release Date: 12/14/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1 - Release Date: 12/15/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/206 - Release Date: 12/16/2005
