RE: CSBlood typing, was Re: CSThis man's best freind

[Ode Coyote]

  I think maybe the use of ritual symbolism is a step in dissolving a 
traditional *activity* similar to, The You are what you eat, so eat tiger 
hearts idea.
 Often an enemies heart or liver would be eaten to absorb the enemies 
fierceness...a high compliment and show of respect.
 It has been said that Custers ears were cut off so he'd be reminded to 
listen in the afterlife. [ Wouldn't he need them to hear? ]
I suppose today they'd drive hearing aids in with a hammer and they didn't 
think of Bison horns back then.


 Some societies still eat small  portions of their dead relatives as a way 
to assimilate and preserve their memory. That's not cannibalism per sey 
as the intent is not food oriented.
   There may be a connection to a similar activity with the Jews and their 
Christian offshoots lost in time and prehistory but seen reflected as 
the wafer and goblet of wine tradition of the Eucharist.
 The actual activity may have also occurred with a completely different 
society and only the symbolic ritual transferred or copied...that is, I'm 
not saying that any descendents of Jews ever actually consumed any large or 
small portion their dead. [Nor am I passing any judgement on those who did 
or still do.]


 Smoke is both ritually and actually considered to be a connection to the 
heavenly beingness by various  societies both past and present. Eastern 
societies sometimes burn favorite articles that belonged to loved ones or 
even send them [symbolic] money that way.


The Jews did have a number of symbolic rituals such as attaching diseases 
to pigs and driving them out of town.

 Scape-goating is almost universal.
 Before Moses came along, burning sacrifice was the common thing to do. 
[maybe after Moses too ]
 Jesus made many concessions to traditions he disagreed with and he 
disagreed with many.
One was the tradition of only favored guests drinking wine at a wedding 
party.  He let everyone drink wine, [a typical Jesus thing that would fit 
the philosophy perfectly ]  hence, Turning water into wine
 Some say he could buck the system that way because it was his wedding 
party.  It was still odd enough to become widely noted and gossiped about.

 Jesus was just typically odd, for that time ... and much misunderstood.

  The Red Cross may have been expecting a lot of seriously injured 
survivors on 9/11.

 It took a while to realize there weren't any.
..or a war.

 At any rate, they chose preparedness...and they're always begging for 
blood for any reason they can think of to promote the giving of it, no 
matter what might be going on.

 No big suprise.

ode

At 03:17 PM 7/8/2006 -0700, you wrote:


Hi Ode,
Really enjoy your posts.  :)  This particular one triggered the 
remembrance of something I heard in the evening of 9/11.  Red Cross was 
all over the place televising requests for blood donations.  Featured was 
mrs bush as one of the reps.  She said something repeatedly  that almost 
floored me.  . The Red Cross via ms bush was telling people to donate vast 
amounts of blood, would it be badly needed.  What was said was that it 
could be frozen.  Immediately called a doctor friend to verify that some 
new blood process was not on the market. My thoughts was what the heck are 
they gonna do with all that blood?  Why is it needed. There 
was  supposedly no shortage at the time...my Brother, a Lieutenant worked 
the site as a paramedic and at the local hospitals who received the wounded. .


I'm just wonder en Ode.  Do you think that the darker side of mankind has 
become enlightened over the eons?   That the rituals including those of 
blood use of  yore days gone by have been  completely wiped 
from  patterned memory and consciousness.  Symbols..some folks use em, 
mostly the ones who don't have the real thingothers use the real thing 
whenever available.




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Re: CS PWT Meters, Was Flake

[Ode Coyote]

  The calibration solution I got from Hanna was 50% off spec.  Plenty of 
denial, no refunds.

 I learned a lot by deduction and it took about a month to figure it all out.
 The calibration instructions were far from enlightening and didn't 
mention what temperature compensation was all about.
 Hanna Tech was like You're too stupid to ask questions, so stop it [If 
we tell you the real story, you'll see how misleading our ad copy 
is...defend the product at all costs. ]


Fortunately I had 2 PWTs to make comparisons by and make deductions from.

Ode

At 10:53 AM 7/9/2006 -0600, you wrote:


Hi Mike,
  I haven't worried about calibration since the first couple of months I 
owned my PWT. It has remained consistent with itself, and the measurment 
of uS of an immediately finished batch of CS in my Silverpuppy never 
varies more than fraction.
  A meter that isn't too far off, that gives consistent readings of both 
my DW and the finished CS is more important than that it read an exactly 
accurate uS. Hope that makes sense? I can tell immediately if anything is 
different in the DW or the CS, and I think that consistency is what is 
important.


  I believe Ode some years back had a similar experience to what you 
described your friend had with two PWTs that gave very different readings.

sol

Mike Monett wrote:


I have a Hanna PWT but the COM100 is next on my
shopping list. I really like the temperature display, and I understand from
David that the probe is a bit smaller than the Hanna which will make it
easier to get readings from a bit of cs in a shot glass prior to sublingual
absorption.

I should also mention that my Hanna arrived several years ago in perfect
calibration, and has held the original calibration extremely well. I have
verified it numerous times with precision measurements using the Faraday
calculation, and it has always agreed within 1uS up to about 15uS. The
readings tend to depart around there due to AgOH formation. So I am
confident my unit is functioning well.

My faith in Hanna plummeted recently when I recommended a friend get one.
She got two, with the calibration solution. When she brought them over to
compare calibration with mine, we discovered that one unit was so far out
of calibration that the adjustment screw could not bring it into
calibration.

The second unit was fine, but it was out of calibration. We discovered her
calibration solution read high, about 96uS. So I recommended she send them
back and get a refund.

It is very difficult to recommend what to do to verify the manufacturer's
products in a case like this. If you can do the Faraday calculation, it can
help up to about 15uS. The salt test is useful, but it takes practise to
judge the readings, and they won't be closer than about 5uS. So it can only
catch gross calibration errors. Diluting a saturated salt solution takes
some skill, and the resulting solution may not be very stable. It can also
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Re: CSLunar Influence on the Electrochemical Production of Colloidal Silver

[Carol Ann]

Hi Mike, :)
If one is going to stand behind the body of Science only to accept or disperse 
Myth, CS itself has a long road ahead. 

Its a fact that the moon has an effect on tides and water is the medium being 
used as the conductor for CS.   Given the option and opportunity, my preference 
might be to take advantage of moon cycles.  The convection currents are a 
factor but how can anyone say with infallible conviction that they are alone 
are the primary factors. Were that the case, aside from purity of water 
considerations,  most if not all those using the identical  and controlled CS 
recipes/procedures  produce the same or consistent quality CS.

Wouldn't you  as a  person who prefers validation via the science think it 
wiser to first do the moon phase experiment before summarily dismissing it as 
pure Myth..   

NASA won't launch their shuttle due to excessive sun spot and solar storm 
activity. 

Mike Monett vya-4...@myamail.com wrote:   starshar  wrote:

   Just a little something to add to the CS mix?

   (with apologies if this has been posted here before)

   http://www.borderlands.com/journal/lunar.htm

   Sharon

  Sorry, Sharon,  but this is a myth. The quality of cs  you  make has
  nothing to do with sunspots, solar storms, eclipses, lunar tides, or
  the phase of the moon. It's lots of fun reading about  these things,
  but I'm  afraid the real answer is a bit closer to home.  It depends
  more on the convection currents in your generator than anything else.

  I'm getting  close  to uploading my SilverSol site  that  has  a new
  method of monitoring the brew. This shows the effect of ions as they
  reach their opposite electrodes and start forming  silver hydroxide,
  AgOH, in the Nernst Diffusion layer next to the electrodes.

  Normally the ions are invisible, but two of my  previous experiments
  showed how  to  make  them   visible   so  you  could  see  how they
  distributed themselves throughout the solution.

  These methods were unsuitable for the actual production of cs. But I
  have developed a new method that works during actual  cs production,
  and allows you to see the effects when the ions reach their opposite
  electrodes. This  is  extremely   valuable  for  achieving  peak ion
  concentration without having the solution turn yellow on you.

  So enjoy these articles, but please take them with a grain of salt.

Mike M.


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Re: CSTick and Disease

[Marshall Dudley]

I would drink CS for several days.  It will stop Lyme pretty easily early
on.  Ticks must really be bad this year, I have gotten two of them in the
last 3 days, and have not been anywhere I would have expected to have
gotten them.


Marshall

Pat wrote:

 As I was driving on the interstate in Kentucky a week
 ago, I found a tick imbedded in my scalp.  This
 happened about a year ago too, in Georgia, and that
 time I got an infection with swollen glands in neck
 and was put on antibiotics for one week (but the test
 for Rocky Mt. Spotted Fever was negative).  In both
 cases I had walked a dog, but not where you'd think
 ticks could get into my hair.  I pulled it off and
 threw it out the window.  Then at next stop I sprayed
 CS on my scalp, hands, mouth and steering wheel.  I
 slowly drank a couple ounces of CS once during the
 week.  Just got home today and now I'm wondering if
 there is anything I can do to make sure I didn't get
 Lyme or Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever.  hmmm  wording
 needs help, but the 13 hour drive has left me too
 tired to think  lol.

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CSChronic Lymphocytic Leukemia

[Dan Nave]

I have a fellow where I work who has Stage 4 Chronic Lymphocytic
Leukemia.
He has chronically swollen lymph glands in his neck and looks like he
has mumps...
65 years old.

Does anyone know if CS or Zapping will specifically help this problem?
Or any alternative that is specific for this condition?

Thanks,

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RE: CSBlood typing, was Re: CSThis man's best freind to OT List??

[Carol Ann]

Ode,
True, That the RED CROSS may have been expecting  greater causalities or 
seriously injured survivors  is being  linked directly  to the govts direct 
role as a 9/11 participant.  As to a War...justified or not,  Americans 
certainly got one, didn't they :)

As to begging for blood for any reason to promote the giving of blood. When 
considering the history and how RC began as an organization, H. Interesting 
choice of words...

Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote:I
   The Red Cross may have been expecting a lot of seriously injured 
survivors on 9/11.
  It took a while to realize there weren't any.
..or a war.

  At any rate, they chose preparedness...and they're always begging for 
blood for any reason they can think of to promote the giving of it, no 
matter what might be going on.
  No big suprise.

ode

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Re: CSTick and Disease

[Marshall Dudley]

Pat wrote:

 I don't have any kind of zapper.  I'm totally confused
 about them and there seems to be so many types.  I
 thought in the Dr. Bob Beck video he said the Hulda
 Clark type didn't work. So, I just don't know what to
 do about those.  I did a parasite cleanse a couple
 weeks ago and didn't see anything (thank God!) and
 don't feel any different.  Actually, nothing I use
 seems to help in a way I can feel, except perhaps
 melatonin (makes me want to go to bed) and colloidal
 silver (which has cut short many things that would
 have been colds).

Both the Beck and Clark zappers work. They both work by the same means in
fact, but I prefer the Clark because it does not cause the
electrophoration, and I believe I somewhat more effective due to the
higher frequency.  Here is how they both seem to work:

1. There is a fast transition of a pulse followed by a bias in the pulse.

2. The fast pulse contains a large number of frequencies (if you look at
the forier transform of the leading edge).
3. Different DNA is reonant with different frequencies.
4. The energy of each frequency is divided among all the DNA of that is
resonant with that frequency.
5. There is so much of the body's DNA that the power for it's resonant
frequencies are essentially nil, thus the body's DNA does not break
apart.
6. There is very little of the pathogen's DNA present, so each stran of
it's DNA receives significant power, sufficient to cause the DNA to break
apart.
7. When DNA breaks each end has an opposite charge, so normally the DNA
will immediately be attracted back together and rejoin with no harm
caused to the structure the DNA is part of.
8. Both the zapper designs provide that a bias is present (the Clark an
average bias continuously, and the Beck on a bias for about 1/100 of a
second), which causes the broken oppositely charged ends to be attracted
into opposite directions, so that they are unable to find each other and
thus the break becomes permanent.
9. The broken DNA kills the virus or cell that the DNA is part of, or at
least makes it so it cannot reproduce.

The requirement for 1/100 second or more bias to be applied to seperate
the ends is why the Clark Zapper MUST be unipolar pulses, and not
bipolar, and why when using bipolar pulses like the Beck design, the
pulses must be no more than about 100 Htz.

Marshall



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Re: CSBlood typing, was Re: CSThis man's best freind

[Marshall Dudley]

Article on iron chelation:

http://sickle.bwh.harvard.edu/chelators.html

Marshall

M. G. Devour wrote:

 And on that (sour) note, let's not discuss the esoterica of the origins
 of the Red Cross or other items *NOT RELEVANT* to the health-related
 discussions at hand.

 Whether the blood I donate this week ends up in the belly of a blood
 drinking cultist somewhere, or, more likely, the veins of a hospital
 patient, perhaps saving their life, I don't much care.

 I've been told it's healthy for most men and post-menopausal women to
 donate blood to reduce their iron burden from the excessive iron
 supplementation of processed foods in our diets, which was the point of
 the reference in the first place.

 Religion and politics are not the subject of the Silver List. Civil
 discussions of same may be taken to our Off Topic list.

 Be well,

 Mike Devour
 silver-list owner

  At 04:19 PM 7/7/2006 -0600, you wrote:
 
  The Red Cross was created by the very dynasties said to be ritual blood
   drinkers.
 
 
Would that be Christians? [Rosycrutions?]
  Therefore, the Red Cross are, today, organized vampires fattening people
  up, no one ever gets a transfusion and a blood bank is a food store
  house...oh my.
 
  Christians are also ritual cannibals...but they only eat the flesh of
  Jesus.
 
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Re: CSticks,lyme to Pat

[Marshall Dudley]

zeb caffe wrote:

 Drinking the CS or any preventitive measures was a good thing to do.
 It is very important if you have a tick on you, to keep it and take it
 to a lab to have it analyzed. In my family we have had to do this
 twice with different family memebers. Since having several family
 members with lyme, we have become very concerned about having any tick
 tested.

Isn't lyme only spread by the deer tick, no larger the the head of a
pin?  If so, then analyzing the big spotted ticks would be a waste of
time and money would it not? But why worry about it?  Just take a lot of
CS over the next 7 days, and if it had lyme, you still should not get
it.

Marshall



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Re: CSHTML Viruses

[Marshall Dudley]

Mike Monett wrote:

 Mike,

 Sorry to bring this subject up again, but there may be another reason to
 ask people to disable html when posting to the silver list.

 On one of the newsgroups I inhabit, sci.electronics.design, someone
 recently posted a link to an enginering site. When engineers clicked on the
 link, their antivirus programs and incoming filters showed the presence of
 a virus on their computers. It took a bit of effort to find out how it got
 there.

 Now we all know (don't we?) that viruses can take advantage of javascript
 flaws to sneak onto your computer. But this virus had an unusual method of
 infection that invoked Visual Basic, and it would automatically infect with
 no user action other than clicking on the link.

That is why I have Visual Basic disabled in my browser.

 It was an extremely nasty
 virus and would damage most of the files on your disk. But it required html
 to propagate.

 The Mafia and other criminals have discovered the wealth available on the
 web by finding new ways to infect computers and steal bank and credit card
 account information and passwords. All it would take is one person to get
 infected, and everyone would get hit.

 The results would depend on what safeguards different people use, but it is
 possible that new methods might be developed that bypass current methods.
 Any we may not find out for a long time that we have been compromised.

 So it might be a good idea to suggest a bit more strongly that people
 should not use html to post.

I don't see how that would help. A link can be posted with html or not, almost
all browsers will make the link highlighted to click on either way.



 I don't know what email clients people use, but it is most likely Outlook.
 This would immediately run the embedded virus and infect the computer.
 There are many other browsers and email clients that don't have the
 problems that Microsoft has, and it might be a good idea to look at Firefox
 and Opera for browsing, and any of the multitude of email clients for
 posting. Even these cannot guarantee immunity, so get a good firewall if
 you don't have one, and keep practising safe hex.


Yes, I use Netscape and Eudora for emails to avoid such problems.

Marshall


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Re: CSBlood typing, was Re: CSThis man's best freind

[Carol Ann]

Mike,

Most men and women who donate blood for the reasons you mention do not have : 
Haemochromatosis, also spelled hemochromatosis, is a hereditary disease 
characterized by improper processing by the body of dietary iron which causes 
iron to accumulate in a number of body tissues, eventually causing organ 
dysfunction. It is the main iron overload disorder.

As to the origination and continued practice of blood letting see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodletting

Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Article on iron chelation:

http://sickle.bwh.harvard.edu/chelators.html

Marshall

M. G. Devour wrote:

 And on that (sour) note, let's not discuss the esoterica of the origins
 of the Red Cross or other items *NOT RELEVANT* to the health-related
 discussions at hand.

 Whether the blood I donate this week ends up in the belly of a blood
 drinking cultist somewhere, or, more likely, the veins of a hospital
 patient, perhaps saving their life, I don't much care.

 I've been told it's healthy for most men and post-menopausal women to
 donate blood to reduce their iron burden from the excessive iron
 supplementation of processed foods in our diets, which was the point of
 the reference in the first place.

 Religion and politics are not the subject of the Silver List. Civil
 discussions of same may be taken to our Off Topic list.

 Be well,

 Mike Devour
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  At 04:19 PM 7/7/2006 -0600, you wrote:
 
  The Red Cross was created by the very dynasties said to be ritual blood
   drinkers.
 
 
Would that be Christians? [Rosycrutions?]
  Therefore, the Red Cross are, today, organized vampires fattening people
  up, no one ever gets a transfusion and a blood bank is a food store
  house...oh my.
 
  Christians are also ritual cannibals...but they only eat the flesh of
  Jesus.
 
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Re: CSVitamins

[Marshall Dudley]

Is there a brand to look for. I went to Walmart and could not find any
that did not contain Tocopheryl.

Marshall

brick...@aol.com wrote:

  I was afraid that someone would ask as I have to look up the correct
 spelling in the vitamin book. It is 1000 units of a mixed tocopherols,
 d-alpha, d-beta, d-gamma and d-tocopherols. I take 3 per day as
 recommended to get the blue out. I tried the Kirkland brand d-alpha
 tocoperyl for several months with zero results. I think it was Terry
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Re: CSVitamins

[Marshall Dudley]

And I can verify that the bad E has not helped me either.

Marshall

sol wrote:

 I checked and am using the so-called good vit E. So far hasn't helped
 with the blue moons which are still there.
 sol

 brick...@aol.com wrote:

  I have been trying to reduce the blue moons in my fingernails and was
  using the mix of vitamins posted except the wrong kind of vitamin E. I
  switched to the good vitamin E about two weeks ago and it looks like
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Re: CSChronic Lymphocytic Leukemia

[Duncan Crow]

Dan, 

GEIPE works on cancer for sure and its cheap and simple. It won't 
cure the cancer on its own but it will shrink it and buy the time 
needed to mount a campaign. 

The campaign might include high pH and cesium therapy, ozone, 
Transfer Factor (4Life Research brand), cold-processed whey for 
glutathione, topical aloe vera gel with DMSO, that kind of thing.

Duncan

On 10 Jul 2006 at 9:18, Dan Nave wrote:

 I have a fellow where I work who has Stage 4 Chronic Lymphocytic
 Leukemia.
 He has chronically swollen lymph glands in his neck and looks like he
 has mumps...
 65 years old.
 
 Does anyone know if CS or Zapping will specifically help this problem?
 Or any alternative that is specific for this condition?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Dan
 
 
 
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Re: CSVitamins

[Marshall Dudley]

Look at the ingredients and think Y can't I find the good stuff, and
O boy I found the good stuff.  Look at the next to the last letter of
the ingredient, Y is bad, O, is good.

IE: Topopheryl is not good, Topohperol is good.

Marshall

oldgl...@bigcountry.net wrote:

 Hi Brickey,

 Can you tell us what the wrong kind of Vit. E was and what kind of
 Vit. E you are taking now, that helped your blood pressure reading?

 Congratulations on finding a way to health!

 Thank you,

 Jean


  

  I have been trying to reduce the blue moons in my
  fingernails and was using the mix of vitamins posted except
  the wrong kind of vitamin E. I switched to the good vitamin
  E about two weeks ago and it looks like it is helping. I was
  scheduled to see my DR who wanted to increase my high blood
  pressure medication two days after using the new vit. E.
  Both of us were surprised to see my blood pressure was down
  to 120/60 from 150/100. I am thinking of stopping the
  medication entirely.

  Brickey

CSVitamins

[oldgl...@bigcountry.net]

Hi Marshall,

I've spent over an hour looking through two major catalogs.  So far, the
best I've come up with is the 400 IU size (not the 1,000 IU size Brickey
speaks of), with all of the four natural d-mixed tocopherols.

If anyone finds the mixed natural d-tocopherols in the 1,000 IU size,
please let me know because my sister needs to try this.  I will buy some
immediately for her if I can just locate it.  My sister hates to take a lot
of pills and the difference would be 3 pills of the 1,000 IU compared to 7
or 8 pills of the 400 IU.

In the meantime, if I locate the 1,000 IU size of mixed tocopherol Vit. E, I
will let the list know the brand and where it can be found.

Thank you,

Jean
 
 
 
 
 Look at the ingredients and think Y can't I find the good stuff, and O boy
 I found the good stuff.  Look at the next to the last letter of the
 ingredient, Y is bad, O, is good.
 
 IE: Topopheryl is not good, Topohperol is good.
 
 Marshall 
 
 oldgl...@bigcountry.net wrote:
 Hi Brickey, 
 
 Can you tell us what the wrong kind of Vit. E was and what kind of Vit. E you
 are taking now, that helped your blood pressure reading?
 
 Congratulations on finding a way to health!
 
 Thank you, 
 
 Jean 
  
 
 I have been trying to reduce the blue moons in my fingernails and was using
 the mix of vitamins posted except the wrong kind of vitamin E. I switched to
 the good vitamin E about two weeks ago and it looks like it is helping. I
 was scheduled to see my DR who wanted to increase my high blood pressure
 medication two days after using the new vit. E. Both of us were surprised to
 see my blood pressure was down to 120/60 from 150/100. I am thinking of
 stopping the medication entirely.
 
 Brickey 
  
 
 

CSBeck-Clark Pulsers -- How They Work!

[gvagraphics]

Marshall,

Thanks for taking the time -- a lucid explanation!!

Signed: Douglas H

 Both the Beck and Clark zappers work. They both work by the same means in
 fact, but I prefer the Clark because it does not cause the
 electrophoration, and I believe I somewhat more effective due to the
 higher frequency.  Here is how they both seem to work:
 
 1. There is a fast transition of a pulse followed by a bias in the pulse.
 
 2. The fast pulse contains a large number of frequencies (if you look at
 the forier transform of the leading edge).
 3. Different DNA is reonant with different frequencies.
 4. The energy of each frequency is divided among all the DNA of that is
 resonant with that frequency.
 5. There is so much of the body's DNA that the power for it's resonant
 frequencies are essentially nil, thus the body's DNA does not break
 apart.
 6. There is very little of the pathogen's DNA present, so each stran of
 it's DNA receives significant power, sufficient to cause the DNA to break
 apart.
 7. When DNA breaks each end has an opposite charge, so normally the DNA
 will immediately be attracted back together and rejoin with no harm
 caused to the structure the DNA is part of.
 8. Both the zapper designs provide that a bias is present (the Clark an
 average bias continuously, and the Beck on a bias for about 1/100 of a
 second), which causes the broken oppositely charged ends to be attracted
 into opposite directions, so that they are unable to find each other and
 thus the break becomes permanent.
 9. The broken DNA kills the virus or cell that the DNA is part of, or at
 least makes it so it cannot reproduce.
 
 The requirement for 1/100 second or more bias to be applied to seperate
 the ends is why the Clark Zapper MUST be unipolar pulses, and not
 bipolar, and why when using bipolar pulses like the Beck design, the
 pulses must be no more than about 100 Htz.
 
 Marshall


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CSVitamins (E)

[cking001]

I buy mine here
http://www.puritan.com/

BTW, they have a nice sale on, too!

Chuck
Illiterate? Write for help! 


I've spent over an hour looking through two major catalogs.  So far, the
best I've come up with is the 400 IU size (not the 1,000 IU size Brickey
speaks of), with all of the four natural d-mixed tocopherols.

If anyone finds the mixed natural d-tocopherols in the 1,000 IU size,
please let me know because my sister needs to try this.  I will buy some
immediately for her if I can just locate it.  My sister hates to take a lot
of pills and the difference would be 3 pills of the 1,000 IU compared to 7
or 8 pills of the 400 IU.

In the meantime, if I locate the 1,000 IU size of mixed tocopherol Vit. E, I
will let the list know the brand and where it can be found.



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CS Two PWT's are my standard

[gvagraphics]

Listers,

I bought two PWT's from Trem a couple of years ago and check one off against 
the other.
The battries are expensive $3.50 each and wach PWT takes 4 small micro units.

I bought battries recently from Radio Shack (#23-105 -- 1.5v Watch  
Calculator) -- I unpacked the first from its sealed sales card holder and 
measured less Milli-Amps than the old ones -- in other words they were old and 
had no useby date so beware!!

The battery manufacturers have a free ride -- they never have to really 
guarantee their products will work for any period of time etc. Yes! Some do 
have use-by dates.

Now there's a Consumer Issue for someone looking to become famous!!

Douglas H

 Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: 
 
The calibration solution I got from Hanna was 50% off spec.  Plenty of 
 denial, no refunds.
   I learned a lot by deduction and it took about a month to figure it all out.
   The calibration instructions were far from enlightening and didn't 
 mention what temperature compensation was all about.
   Hanna Tech was like You're too stupid to ask questions, so stop it [If 
 we tell you the real story, you'll see how misleading our ad copy 
 is...defend the product at all costs. ]
 
 Fortunately I had 2 PWTs to make comparisons by and make deductions from.
 
 Ode
 
 At 10:53 AM 7/9/2006 -0600, you wrote:
 
 Hi Mike,
I haven't worried about calibration since the first couple of months I 
  owned my PWT. It has remained consistent with itself, and the measurment 
  of uS of an immediately finished batch of CS in my Silverpuppy never 
  varies more than fraction.
A meter that isn't too far off, that gives consistent readings of both 
  my DW and the finished CS is more important than that it read an exactly 
  accurate uS. Hope that makes sense? I can tell immediately if anything is 
  different in the DW or the CS, and I think that consistency is what is 
  important.
 
I believe Ode some years back had a similar experience to what you 
  described your friend had with two PWTs that gave very different readings.
 sol
 
 Mike Monett wrote:
 
 I have a Hanna PWT but the COM100 is next on my
 shopping list. I really like the temperature display, and I understand from
 David that the probe is a bit smaller than the Hanna which will make it
 easier to get readings from a bit of cs in a shot glass prior to sublingual
 absorption.
 
 I should also mention that my Hanna arrived several years ago in perfect
 calibration, and has held the original calibration extremely well. I have
 verified it numerous times with precision measurements using the Faraday
 calculation, and it has always agreed within 1uS up to about 15uS. The
 readings tend to depart around there due to AgOH formation. So I am
 confident my unit is functioning well.
 
 My faith in Hanna plummeted recently when I recommended a friend get one.
 She got two, with the calibration solution. When she brought them over to
 compare calibration with mine, we discovered that one unit was so far out
 of calibration that the adjustment screw could not bring it into
 calibration.
 
 The second unit was fine, but it was out of calibration. We discovered her
 calibration solution read high, about 96uS. So I recommended she send them
 back and get a refund.
 
 It is very difficult to recommend what to do to verify the manufacturer's
 products in a case like this. If you can do the Faraday calculation, it can
 help up to about 15uS. The salt test is useful, but it takes practise to
 judge the readings, and they won't be closer than about 5uS. So it can only
 catch gross calibration errors. Diluting a saturated salt solution takes
 some skill, and the resulting solution may not be very stable. It can also
 become contaminated from the container the solution is stored in.
 
 
 
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CSThanks and a question

[zeb caffe]

Thank you Debbie for the garlic information. It looks like a good product with 
both allinin and allicin. There is also a garlic supplement called wild bear 
garlic that offers another componant that traditional garlics dont offer. I may 
use this in addition to the garlic that I use now. I have found that it is 
important to use the right brands as products vary from brand to brand.At least 
I have found this to be so.I wanted to know if Duncan could re post what he 
wrote about the cancer information or treatment that he just recently posted. I 
tried to make a copy of it and deleted to soon and it didnt copy properly. I 
also wanated to make a comment on vitamin E since we have been discussing it. I 
was noticing that in the vitamin packs like life pack where individual packets 
are wrapped with several vitamins to take during the course of a day, all use 
dlalpha for the vitamin E source. Does anyone know if the DL form is actually 
harmful or is it just not as effective? i have
 heard that it is not harmful, but rather you need twice as much to get the 
amount needed. I have also heard, that the studies that have proven E to be 
harmful are because the DL form was used. I use the D alpha form of vitamin E, 
because I take it individually like many vitamins. But, I bought one  of those 
Life Paks for a relative and dont want to give them the wrong type of E.
  Sorry for the long post and thanks in  advance to anyone who answers.


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CSVitamins, 1000 mg mixed Tocopherols.

[Wayne Fugitt]

Evening Jean,


If anyone finds the mixed natural d-tocopherols in the 1,000 IU size, 
..



 A number of places show 1000 mg  mixed

Tocopherols.

http://www.vitacost.com/CountryLifeNaturalEComplexwithMixedTocopherols

http://www.nutrasanus.com/vitamin-e-1000-product.html

http://www.naturalgoodnessmarket.com/list2.cfm?cat=42

Wayne

Re: CSBlood typing, was Re: CSThis man's best freind

[Mark S. Siepak]

 The Red Cross via Mrs Bush was telling people to donate vast
amounts of blood, would it be badly needed.  What was said was that it
could be frozen.  Immediately called a doctor friend to verify that some
new blood process was not on the market.

Actually, I believe the plasma (serum, or liquid part of blood with blood
cells and maybe platelets filtered out) can be frozen up to a year. So not
some vampiric feast, as intimated...

There exists a law, not written down...but inborn in our hearts;
a law which comes to us...from nature itself...
not from theory but from practice, not by instruction
but by natural intuition.
I refer to the law which lays it down that, if our lives are endangered...
any and every method of protecting ourselves is morally right.
-  Cicero 

Mark S Siepak 


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CSGarlic

[ch...@comcast.net]

For those wondering what brand of garlic to use, why not use fresh, raw garlic? 
 It is cheap, although a bit messy, but far superior to anything bottled.  Just 
use a large clove, or a couple of smaller ones, chop it up with a knife or in a 
small food processor, put it on a spoon, and swallow as much as you can while 
sipping water.  I don't think it presents the same odor problem that cooked 
garlic can give, but if this worries you, take some chlorophyll or have some 
parsley.  I wouldn't take massive doses for long periods of time, but use for 
2-3 weeks, and take a break.

Cindy

CS

[Tad Winiecki]

--
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 17:24:25 EDT
From: brick...@aol.com

   I have been trying to reduce the blue moons in my fingernails and was
using the mix of vitamins posted except the wrong kind of vitamin E. I
switched to the good vitamin E about two weeks ago and it looks like it is
helping. I was scheduled to see my DR who wanted to increase my high blood
pressure medication two days after using the new vit. E. Both of us were
surprised to see my blood pressure was down to 120/60 from 150/100. I am
thinking of stopping the medication entirely.   Grass pollen triggered an
allergy that is hard to stop. I started taking 2 teaspoons of MSM daily for
the last 5 days. I bought some awhile back when a post said that was the
way to stop allergies. It tasted so bad I did not continue to use it. With
GERDS I try to not swallow pills so I mix the powdered MSM in a small
amount of water and drink it fast, then I drink a glass of water. The MSM
taste seems to last for hours afterward. Anyone know how to take MSM
without the aftertaste?   Brickey
--

Brickey- It is possibly not MSM in general but the batch or brand you are
taking.  I've had some that tasted very bad.  I tried a little dry MSM from
my present stuff I get from www. beyond-a-century.com and while it doesn't
taste good was tolerable and didn't leave an aftertaste.  I take it with a
lot of herbal powders, amino acids, and a fizzy Cal-Mag powder so I don't
really notice the taste but I would think taking it with some juice could
cover the taste.

Something that works great for me to get rid of the symptoms of hay fever
completely is to eat a tablespoon or so of beef tripe every day for 2-3
weeks.  It contains polymuccosaccharides that apparently supply what the
body needs to heal the tissues so they don't weep, itch, etc.  There may be
other sources of these saccharides but I haven't researched it.

Another approach is to treat the causes of the hay fever, the over-reaction
of the immune system due to food allergies, liver malfunction, or adrenal
malfunction.  Finding food allergies using pulse testing was what worked
for me.  I'm taking the liberty of reposting Terry's great email on that-

Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 13:37:16 -0500 (EST)
From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSCluster headaches

Ameair said:
A friend just started a bout with cluster headaches. he has found that O2
helps more that the AMA stuff. anyone on here with any experience with
these things? any good herbal remedies? thanks, jim

Terry replies:
The first thing I always have my clients do who struggle with frequent or
regular headaches is to use the Pulse Test to eliminate the high
probability of food allergies. MOST of the time, these are present, and are
a minor or major causative factor in headaches.

Here are the instructions from my literature:

FOOD SENSITIVITIES:
Probably more than half the people in this country experience food
allergies/sensitivities to one degree or another. Actually, the term, food
allergies is a misnomer, because the body reacts to various food
substances for more reasons than allergic reactions (hence the word,
sensitivities).

When you think of allergies, you generally think of sneezing, runny nose,
watery eyes, etc. But allergies mimic every known disease. The late Dr.
Arthur Coca discovered that when people ate foods to which they were
allergic (or sensitive to), their pulse increased. So he began testing
people by having them monitor their pulse when they ate certain foods. One
woman who came to him because of her hay fever symptoms weighed 300 pounds.
When she stopped eating the foods the pulse testing had indicated she was
sensitive to, she began losing weight at an amazing, even alarming, rate.
She hurried back to Dr. Coca and he told her to wait and see what would
happen. When her body reached a healthy weight level, she stopped losing
weight. Dr. Coca concluded that her body's reaction when she ate foods to
which she was sensitive was to accumulate and retain fat.

Another of Dr. Coca's patients found that their diabetes symptoms
disappeared and they were able to discontinue taking insulin, and still
another patient found they no longer exhibited symptoms of epilepsy.
Obviously, these examples are abnormal; food sensitivities cannot be held
responsible for more than a small percentage of diabetic or epileptic
conditions, but there are other symptoms associated with food allergies,
such as low energy, which are
more common than normally thought.

In his book, The Pulse Test, Dr. Coca explained that, when you eat
something to which you are allergic, or even something which your body is
sensitive to and has trouble metabolizing, your body will begin to struggle
with that food or substance, and your pulse will increase.

To use the pulse test to determine which foods you should avoid, the test
should be conducted first thing in the morning, when you have first 

CSstaph infection

[Kandee Edge]

Forgive me if this has already been discussed before, but I was wondering if 
anyone has any experience in curing a staph infection with CS.  I have a friend 
whose newborn has a staph infection and is spreading.  The doctors are 
beginning IV antibiotics.  Any thoughts?
   
  Kandee

Re: CSVitamins

[Robert L. Booth]

Jean
   
  viacost.com  carries twin lab super e complex very reasonable.
   
  Robert


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Re: CSHTML Viruses

[Mike Monett]

  Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:

   So it  might be a good idea to suggest a bit  more  strongly that
   people should not use html to post.

   I don't see how that would help. A link can be posted with html or
   not, almost  all browsers will make the link highlighted  to click
   on either way.

  The recipient would not have to click on a link. HTML files and jpeg
  images can  contain  embedded viruses. Microsoft  executes  these as
  soon as  they  are  received, unless  the  user  has  disabled these
  functions. Many  sites  require  them, and  it  is  awkward  to keep
  turning them on and off. So recipients will often leave  them turned
  on.

  A virus  could infect the html file as it was being sent.  The virus
  would then  activate as soon as it was received. No  user  action is
  needed.

  We are talking about very smart programmers looking for new  ways to
  collect your  bank  account and credit card  information.  These are
  worth billions to criminals.

  Mike D.  has already suggested to not use html to post to  the list.
  This is yet another reason to not do so.

Mike M.


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Re: CSLunar Influence on the Electrochemical Production of Colloidal Silver

[sol]

When I was having lots of trouble making clear CS, back a few years ago, 
I did take note of the lunar cycle, and so far as I could determine it 
had absolutely no effect on how the CS turned out.

sol


Carol Ann wrote:

Its a fact that the moon has an effect on tides and water is the 
medium being used as the conductor for CS.  Given the option and 
opportunity, my preference might be to take advantage of moon cycles.  T




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Re: CSRe: Dirty Dryers

[ruth strackbein]

Hi! I use the computers at our public library. The librarian doesn't know how to turn of html. Maybe you can help us out. Otherwise, I just won't be able to post on Eskimo. The library computers are protected from scam, at least I understand they are. The librarian has told me that there is a virus scan in the machines here. To learn how to turn off html, we would have to contact the guy that services the library computers in a wide area it can take weeks to get one on the site.Hope this post doesn't cause a problem. Ruth
From Ruth Strackbein


From: "Mike Monett" vya-4...@myamail.comReply-To: silver-list@eskimo.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: CSRe: Dirty DryersDate: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 12:01:18 -0400Ruth,I didn't notice the attachment in my reply to cleaning fridges until afterit was sent and I reviewed the message. Turns out it was old HTML stuffleft over from your post.Can you try to turn off html in your client. As Mike D recommends on thehome page, html increases the length of the message and costs more tostore. Please see http://silverlist.org/Etiquette.html#HTMLThanks,Mike M
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Re: CSGarlic

[debbiegerard99]

I love garlic but I am on the road ten hours a day and it is not convenient to 
mess with it when I am driving and such but you are right raw is better when 
your at homedebbie

-- Original message -- 
From: ch...@comcast.net (ch...@comcast.net) 

For those wondering what brand of garlic to use, why not use fresh, raw garlic? 
 It is cheap, although a bit messy, but far superior to anything bottled.  Just 
use a large clove, or a couple of smaller ones, chop it up with a knife or in a 
small food processor, put it on a spoon, and swallow as much as you can while 
sipping water.  I don't think it presents the same odor problem that cooked 
garlic can give, but if this worries you, take some chlorophyll or have some 
parsley.  I wouldn't take massive doses for long periods of time, but use for 
2-3 weeks, and take a break.

Cindy

Re: CS Two PWT's are my standard

[debbiegerard99]

I don't know what part of the country your in but up here we have dollar stores 
that have these kind of batterieswhat about rechargable batteries for uses 
like this or can't you recharge them when they are that smalldebbie

-- Original message -- 
From: gvagraph...@adelphia.net 

 Listers, 
 
 I bought two PWT's from Trem a couple of years ago and check one off against 
 the 
 other. 
 The battries are expensive $3.50 each and wach PWT takes 4 small micro units. 
 
 I bought battries recently from Radio Shack (#23-105 -- 1.5v Watch  
 Calculator) 
 -- I unpacked the first from its sealed sales card holder and measured less 
 Milli-Amps than the old ones -- in other words they were old and had no 
 useby 
 date so beware!! 
 
 The battery manufacturers have a free ride -- they never have to really 
 guarantee their products will work for any period of time etc. Yes! Some do 
 have 
 use-by dates. 
 
 Now there's a Consumer Issue for someone looking to become famous!! 
 
 Douglas H 
 
  Ode Coyote wrote: 
  
  The calibration solution I got from Hanna was 50% off spec. Plenty of 
  denial, no refunds. 
  I learned a lot by deduction and it took about a month to figure it all 
  out. 
  The calibration instructions were far from enlightening and didn't 
  mention what temperature compensation was all about. 
  Hanna Tech was like You're too stupid to ask questions, so stop it [If 
  we tell you the real story, you'll see how misleading our ad copy 
  is...defend the product at all costs. ] 
  
  Fortunately I had 2 PWTs to make comparisons by and make deductions from. 
  
  Ode 
  
  At 10:53 AM 7/9/2006 -0600, you wrote: 
  
  Hi Mike, 
   I haven't worried about calibration since the first couple of months I 
   owned my PWT. It has remained consistent with itself, and the measurment 
   of uS of an immediately finished batch of CS in my Silverpuppy never 
   varies more than fraction. 
   A meter that isn't too far off, that gives consistent readings of both 
   my DW and the finished CS is more important than that it read an exactly 
   accurate uS. Hope that makes sense? I can tell immediately if anything is 
   different in the DW or the CS, and I think that consistency is what is 
   important. 
   
   I believe Ode some years back had a similar experience to what you 
   described your friend had with two PWTs that gave very different 
   readings. 
  sol 
   
  Mike Monett wrote: 
   
  I have a Hanna PWT but the COM100 is next on my 
  shopping list. I really like the temperature display, and I understand 
  from 
  David that the probe is a bit smaller than the Hanna which will make it 
  easier to get readings from a bit of cs in a shot glass prior to 
  sublingual 
  absorption. 
   
  I should also mention that my Hanna arrived several years ago in perfect 
  calibration, and has held the original calibration extremely well. I have 
  verified it numerous times with precision measurements using the Faraday 
  calculation, and it has always agreed within 1uS up to about 15uS. The 
  readings tend to depart around there due to AgOH formation. So I am 
  confident my unit is functioning well. 
   
  My faith in Hanna plummeted recently when I recommended a friend get one. 
  She got two, with the calibration solution. When she brought them over to 
  compare calibration with mine, we discovered that one unit was so far out 
  of calibration that the adjustment screw could not bring it into 
  calibration. 
   
  The second unit was fine, but it was out of calibration. We discovered 
  her 
  calibration solution read high, about 96uS. So I recommended she send 
  them 
  back and get a refund. 
   
  It is very difficult to recommend what to do to verify the manufacturer's 
  products in a case like this. If you can do the Faraday calculation, it 
  can 
  help up to about 15uS. The salt test is useful, but it takes practise to 
  judge the readings, and they won't be closer than about 5uS. So it can 
  only 
  catch gross calibration errors. Diluting a saturated salt solution takes 
  some skill, and the resulting solution may not be very stable. It can 
  also 
  become contaminated from the container the solution is stored in. 
   
   
   
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CScancer repost

[Duncan Crow]

GEIPE works on cancer for sure and its cheap and simple. It won't 
cure the cancer on its own but it will shrink it and buy the time 
needed to mount a campaign.  

The campaign might include high pH and cesium therapy, ozone, 
Transfer Factor (4Life Research brand), cold-processed whey for 
glutathione and wasting, topical aloe vera gel with DMSO, that 
kind of thing.

Glutathione/cold-processed whey was featured in a review of 
several clinical studies in a Cancer journal; the full review 
appears in my glutathione references near the top of the page.  
In a nutshell the undenatured whey shrunk tumours on its own. 
High-dose with selenium (600-1000 mcg) to enhance this effect due 
to increased glutathione. I saw studies in which tumours shrunk 
with selenium alone at around 1100 mcg daily; up to 3200 mics 
have been used for a year with no long-term issues, just 
fingernail deformities. I don't think one would need that much if 
the glutathione precursors are present.

I still maintain a page on my site that explains Transfer Factor 
even though I'm not moving the product. In a nutshell, the 
Transfer Factor Plus Advanced Formula increases NK cells that eat 
cancer by 437%; I've recently had two testimonials that it shrunk 
their tumours in just a month or two.

I know someone who got rid of their cancer, and cesium choride 
was what he used in a program. It's hard to eat; causes upset 
stomach. Refer to the cesiumtherapy yahoogroup for more.
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/cesiumtherapy/

Juicing has been a huge benefit to cancer patients and everyone 
else.

Essiac or one of the other herbal blends like Hoxey or one of the 
black salves that has an oral form should help too. Essiac was 
almost made an official cancer cure in Canada for good reason. 
Many practitioners are swearing by zeolite but I'm still on the 
fence; it helps to normalize cell function, which is what we 
want, as opposed to killing all that mass.

Toxin reduction is part of the core therapy for cancer; liver 
flushes etc...
download a good liver flush here:
http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/liverFlush.txt

Duncan
http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow


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CSFW: http://silversol.freewebpage.org/spice/csoff.htm

[Dan Nave]

 Mike,

Why can I never access your webpage?  I always get a 404 error, page not
found.

Dan


 http://silversol.freewebpage.org/spice/csoff.htm



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From: Mike Monett [mailto:txu-4...@myamail.com]
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 11:30 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS New info on making and using cs. Was RE  I forgot


Hi Jim,

Thanks for the very nice welcome. I think I'm close to finding ways to
control the mold toxins, and I'm finally starting to get my mind back.
For example, I was able to solve a problem that has been plaguing
circuit designers for three or four decades. This is a bit OT, but it
relates to analyzing crystal oscillators, which are very widely used
everywhere. Until now, it has been impossible to analyze these in SPICE,
which is a circuit analysis program. It takes too long, so it was not
possible to design the circuit properly. I found a solution to the
problem that speeds the analysis by 4,000 to 8,000 times. If there are
any electronics folks here, they might be interested in reading the
solution at http://tinyurl.com/qpcoz

So the good news is some of the damage caused by the mold toxins seems
to be temporary. There are definitely physical problems that remain, but
the incredible headaches seem to go with no lasting effect.

More good news - I have done lots of new circuit designs and new
experiments. I'm starting to put the designs on my web site - here's a
SPICE design of an automatic shutoff circuit for a cs generator:

http://silversol.freewebpage.org/spice/csoff.htm

In building it, I discovered a reason why this technique won't work, and
then a very good technique to monitor the ion concentration in cs as the
brew progresses. I hope to post this information on the site soon, along
with a design for a polarity reversal circuit, and the reson why this
technique doesn't work either. 

I also found a new way to measure the amount of silver we ingest, and
have develpoed some new information on how the body utilizes it. I also
am working on a new method of generating high ion concentration that
prevents the ions from combining in the Nernst Diffusion layer and
producing AgOH. 

This effectively stops the process and limits the ion concentration to
around 22uS. However, Frank has posted the test results of a new cs
product that seems to reach a concentration of 30uS, so it appears
possible to do, and the results will be stable.

So there's lots to talk about, and lots of very good news about cs and
how we use it. It would be nice if the archives were available so we
could carry on discussions and be able to refer to previous posts, but I
understand MikeD. is working on it and hopefully will have something
soon.

Best Regards,

Mike Monett.


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Re: CSRe: Dirty Dryers

[debbiegerard99]

Ruth you can always send a post to me and I can send it thru to the 
group...debbie

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Hi!  I use the computers at our public library.  The librarian doesn't know how 
to turn of html.  Maybe you can help us out.  Otherwise, I just won't be able 
to post on Eskimo.  The library computers are protected from scam, at least I 
understand they are. The librarian has told me that there is a virus scan in 
the machines here.  To learn how to turn off html, we would have to contact the 
guy that services the library computers in a wide area it can take weeks to get 
one on the site. Hope this post doesn't cause a problem.  Ruth






From Ruth Strackbein


From: Mike Monett vya-4...@myamail.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRe: Dirty Dryers
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 12:01:18 -0400
Ruth,

I didn't notice the attachment in my reply to cleaning fridges until after
it was sent and I reviewed the message. Turns out it was old HTML stuff
left over from your post.

Can you try to turn off html in your client. As Mike D recommends on the
home page, html increases the length of the message and costs more to
store. Please see

 http://silverlist.org/Etiquette.html#HTML

Thanks,

Mike M

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RE: CSstaph infection

[Dan Nave]

My experience with IV antibiotics is that it may take months, perhaps
over a year to kill off the staph.
 
In addition to the IV antibiotics, I would treat the skin topically with
CS, soaking some sort of gauze or cloth with the CS and keeping it wet.
(One can also use DMSO [10 to 20% DMSO to 80 to 90% CS].  May want to be
careful with too much DMSO as it may cause drying.)
 
Give orally, keep in mouth for 2 to 5 minutes, 1/2 ounce at a time and
then swallow.  Use every hour or as often as is possible.  You can use
up to a cup or a pint or more per day, depending on what the person is
comfortable with.
 
The thing about CS is that it is so strong and effective that it will
chase all sorts of stuff out of the body and the person may initially
have weird skin eruptions and swellings, etc, which will freak them out
if they start it out too fast and furiously.  So, explain it to them and
have them start out slowly and ramp up to the maximum doses...
 
Most people are too chicken-shit to take responsibility for their own
health, look up the info on the alternative stuff and figure out how to
use it.  Many won't even be able to take 3 doses of anything a day...
much less 8 or 16 doses. They want you to be God and guarantee that you
will cure them or they won't have the confidence to go through with the
program.(However, I find being God is somewhat manipulative...)
 
Good luck,
 
Dan
 
 



From: Kandee Edge [mailto:klehre2...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 2:08 PM
To: List Silver
Subject: CSstaph infection


Forgive me if this has already been discussed before, but I was
wondering if anyone has any experience in curing a staph infection with
CS.  I have a friend whose newborn has a staph infection and is
spreading.  The doctors are beginning IV antibiotics.  Any thoughts?
 
Kandee

Re: CSFW: http://silversol.freewebpage.org/spice/csoff.htm

[Mike Monett]

Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com wrote:

 Mike,

Why can I never access your webpage?  I always get a 404 error, page not
found.

Dan

 http://silversol.freewebpage.org/spice/csoff.htm

Hi Dan, Thanks for your interest. I'm sorry, but that page is no longer at
that address. I am reoganizing the site and will upload the first draft
soon. Then you will be able to get to that page again.

Mike M.


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Re: CSHTML Viruses

[Langsley]

On Monday July 10 2006 12:21 pm, Mike Monett wrote:

   The recipient would not have to click on a link. HTML files and jpeg
   images can  contain  embedded viruses. Microsoft  executes  these as
   soon as  they  are  received, unless  the  user  has  disabled these
   functions. Many  sites  require  them, and  it  is  awkward  to keep
   turning them on and off. So recipients will often leave  them turned
   on.

The simple solution to ALL of this is to stop using all Micro$oft software. 
Then the rest of us won't have to change our computing/emailing practices 
just so your computer won't be exposed to viruses.
-- 
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Re: CSRe: Dirty Dryers

[Mike Monett]

  ruth strackbein wrote:

   Hi! I  use  the  computers at our  public  library.  The librarian
   doesn't know  how  to  turn of html. Maybe you  can  help  us out.
   Otherwise, I  just  won't be able to post on  Eskimo.  The library
   computers are protected from scam, at least I understand they are.
   The librarian  has  told  me that there is  a  virus  scan  in the
   machines here.  To  learn how to turn off html, we  would  have to
   contact the guy that services the library computers in a wide area
   it can  take weeks to get one on the site. Hope this  post doesn't
   cause a problem. Ruth

  Hi Ruth,

  That is  really  interesting.  Probably  the  library  computers are
  locked so  you can't make any changes to the  settings.  Perhaps the
  repairman would be kind enough to do this if you explain  the reason
  for it  gently.  But that would affect other users who  may  wish to
  send birthday pictures to their grandparents, so we  shouldn't count
  on it.

  It's also  curious to me that you are using the library  computer to
  receive email.  I've never done this so I have no idea how  it might
  work. How  do  you  get your email messages? Do  you  have  your own
  private account at the library? You can always use Yahoo  or Hotmail
  to send email if you like, and I'm pretty sure you can turn  off the
  html there if you want to.

  But anyway, please continue posting - your messages  are interesting
  and worthwhile to read. There is a Base64 attachment to your message
  that encodes  your email in html. Now that I know what to  look for,
  I'll just delete it from my replies.

Best Wishes,

Mike M.


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CSCS Results

[paul mccourt]

My wife and I are 5 weeks into a 8 week program suggested by my chiropractor of 
4 oz. of 80ppm CS twice a day.
I have Colitis and she has Fibromyalgia. 
He was also concerned re eliminating possible mycoplasm.
Both my wife and I have recently experienced episodes of nausea and 
light-headedness/dizziness. The chiro did suggest some funky things would 
start to happen about this point in the program, but didn't elaborate.
Has anyone shared these symptoms or can enlighten as to wether they could be 
connected to CS?

Paul McCourt

Re: CSBlood typing, was Re: CSThis man's best freind

[Carol Ann]

What stunned me was that mrs. bush said repeatedly, the blood could be frozen 
for up to 10 years.  At first, I thought what I heard was wrong, or that it was 
a mistake, until it was repeated several times.  Here is some little publicized 
info as to what happened with the sea of blood collected for most of the 
victims who would never need it because they were already dead.And Red 
Cross knew they had no process by which to  preserve the blood when they called 
for the donations. 
In the end, the excess  was  BURNED.

This article is dated Nov, 2001.  Excerpts. 

The charitable outpouring offered an opportunity for the $2.5 billion-a-year 
organization to restock its depleted blood inventory. Although the Red Cross 
told the public that surplus blood would be frozen, it did not have the 
resources to freeze large amounts of excess blood, according to documents and 
interviews
Fresh blood donated Sept. 11 reached the end of its shelf life Oct. 23. Blood 
donated Sept. 30 will hit its expiration date today. When blood becomes 
outdated, it is useless and must be burned. At my center, a Red Cross 
director said, we have all of this surplus blood that is only now starting to 
outdate. We don't have the supplies to freeze it. There's no place to ship it. 
What do they think is going to happen? We can't create a need for it that isn't 
there.
  
  Reference. 
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/-03.htm

additional excerpts. 
Experts say it takes time, manpower and equipment to gear up for a major 
freezing program. You just don't decide to freeze 100,000 units of blood, 
said Celso Bianco, a physician and executive vice president of America's Blood 
Centers. You need to have a good plan and time and money. It's very 
labor-intensive.
  Gilcher, in Oklahoma City, said the Red Cross was irresponsible in the 
message that was 'given' to the American people by saying 'donate blood and 
money' and implying that the American Red Cross would freeze that blood.
  The Red Cross declined to disclose how much of the extra hundreds of 
thousands of pints collected since Sept. 11 were frozen. An inventory that one 
Red Cross director saw showed that about 8,000 units of blood had been frozen 
between Sept. 11 and mid-October, which suggests that large-scale freezing had 
not happened by that time.
  Kubina disputed that account, saying 8,000 is wrong, but would not offer 
specifics. She said some blood collected just after Sept. 11 has been frozen, 
but acknowledged that most of the proposed reserve would come from donations 
being made now and later.
  The Red Cross approached the FDA on Sept. 14 for approval of procedures for 
freezing and thawing a large reserve, which it proposed keeping at six sites. 
State-of-the-art technology enables frozen blood to be used for up to 14 days 
after thawing. The thawing method the Red Cross cleared with the FDA on Oct. 1 
requires thawed blood to be used within 24 hours, which poses a greater 
challenge in moving blood from scattered stockpiles to a disaster spot.




Mark S. Siepak bro...@gtcinternet.com wrote:  The Red Cross via Mrs Bush 
was telling people to donate vast
amounts of blood, would it be badly needed.  What was said was that it
could be frozen.  Immediately called a doctor friend to verify that some
new blood process was not on the market.

Actually, I believe the plasma (serum, or liquid part of blood with blood
cells and maybe platelets filtered out) can be frozen up to a year. So not
some vampiric feast, as intimated...

There exists a law, not written down...but inborn in our hearts;
a law which comes to us...from nature itself...
not from theory but from practice, not by instruction
but by natural intuition.
I refer to the law which lays it down that, if our lives are endangered...
any and every method of protecting ourselves is morally right.
-  Cicero 

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CSRe: Re Blue Moons - 10 July

[Sandee George]

Hi To All - I have been reading about all the blue moons over the
months and cannot for the life of me understand why you all seem
to think it is too much C.S. I had blue moons at one point in my life
and I had never heard of C.S. then - they went away - where to, I
have no idea, but it was one of those things here today and gone
tomorrow ???   Never gave it any thought, much less to get my
nickers in a twist - maybe you all know something I don't 
Regards
Sandee

May your troubles be less, your blessings more, and nothing
but happiness come through your door!


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Re: CSGarlic

[sol]

I thought to get the effect of the allicin etc from garlic, you had to 
chop it and let it sit for around 10 -15 min before consuming it. Or 
maybe that was in reference to some other property of garlic.

sol


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For those wondering what brand of garlic to use, why not use
fresh, raw garlic?  It is cheap, although a bit messy, but far
superior to anything bottled.  Just use a large clove, or a couple
of smaller ones, chop it up with a knife or in a small food
processor, put it on a spoon, and swallow as much as you can while
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RE: CSstaph infection

[Duncan Crow]

People who do long-term antibiotics risk illness and bowel 
dysbiosis and candida is assured, and it can be very hard to get 
rid of. 

Once the doctors get started that's very hard to change too, but 
you migh find one who would consider that ozone would be faster, 
effective, and free of side effects and disease inducement risk. 
Topical ozonated olive oil sticks well and nothing escapes it, 
and deep infection responds to ozone bagging. She can also bathe 
the baby in CS or ozonated water or peroxide water too.

Duncan
 
 Forgive me if this has already been discussed before, but I was
 wondering if anyone has any experience in curing a staph infection with
 CS.  I have a friend whose newborn has a staph infection and is
 spreading.  The doctors are beginning IV antibiotics.  Any thoughts?
  
 Kandee
 




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Re: CSLunar Influence on the Electrochemical Production of Colloidal Silver

[Carol Ann]

what was the outcome? 

sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: When I was having lots of trouble making 
clear CS, back a few years ago, 
I did take note of the lunar cycle, and so far as I could determine it 
had absolutely no effect on how the CS turned out.
sol


Carol Ann wrote:

 Its a fact that the moon has an effect on tides and water is the 
 medium being used as the conductor for CS.  Given the option and 
 opportunity, my preference might be to take advantage of moon cycles.  T



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Re: CSLunar Influence on the Electrochemical Production of Colloidal Silver

[sol]

The CS either turned yellow or not, but it didn't correlate at all with 
moon cycles. Turned out to be the DW that was the sole determining factor.

sol

Carol Ann wrote:


what was the outcome?

sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:

When I was having lots of trouble making clear CS, back a few
years ago,
I did take note of the lunar cycle, and so far as I could
determine it
had absolutely no effect on how the CS turned out.
sol




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Re: CSCS Results

[Mike Monett]

paul mccourt paulmcco...@sympatico.ca wrote:

My wife and I are 5 weeks into a 8 week program suggested by my chiropractor 
of 4 oz. of 80ppm CS twice a day.

Paul McCourt

Paul, if that's really 80 ppm, it may be a silver compound like MSP, or
silver acetate. Both are ineffective and can give you Argyria in large
quantities. You can easily calculate how much. See my previous post for the
message How Much Silver Did I Drink for the equations and procedure. 

Meanwhile, I will do it for you. That is 9.64 milligrams of silver. Not
only is it a high dosage, it is in a form that the body does not excrete
well, so it builds up. 

If it all remained in your body, and the limit for Argyria is 2.4 grams,
you would reach this limit in 248 doses, or 124 days. This is a very
pessimistic calculation, and your program is only 8 weeks, but I'd take
another look at this guy's advise.

What is the product and who makes it?

Best,

Mike M.


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Re: CSFW: http://silversol.freewebpage.org/spice/csoff.htm

[Mike Monett]

Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com wrote:

 Mike,

Why can I never access your webpage?  I always get a 404 error, page not
found.

Dan

OK, Dan, I uploaded the rough draft of the new site to see how it looks and
check all the links. You can find the page you were searching for at

http://silversol.freewebpage.org/index.htm

Still lots more to do. This will probably take the rest of my life, but it
is a labor of love. The next page I'm working on is the new conductance
graph results. These make me grin when I look at them. I'll post when it is
available.

Please let me know of the inevitable errors and blunders you come across.

Best Wishes,

Mike M.


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CSMonday PM ( A days work )

[Wayne Fugitt]

 Evening Jean,

  I hope your day went OK.

  I have been busy trying to find the best prices for wire for 
Truman's  greenhouse.


I called everyone I knew trying to find some free.   No luck.

Copper is very high due to a mining problem in Mexico.

It is over 4 times as high as it was several years back.

I hope you found all the items you wanted for Marge.

Maybe tomorrow will not be so hectic.  It makes one tired talking to all 
these people and uses lots of mental energy.


Also been doing voltage drop calculations for lights,  fans, and 
heaters.  I think I have all that behind me now.


 Will call you after I rest a short while.

 Wayne


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CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2006 #483

[Peter Rebaudo]

Marshall, Friends

My Beck Blood Elecrifier, fab. by Sota, has a Bi-Phasic square wave 
output of 40V at 4 Hz..


My Hulda Zapper is 5V square wave @ 30K Hz with a 1/4 V positive offset.

Can you please expand on your statement about the Beck's offset.

Regards

Peter R

Both the Beck and Clark zappers work. They both work by the same means in
fact, but I prefer the Clark because it does not cause the
electrophoration, and I believe I somewhat more effective due to the
higher frequency.  Here is how they both seem to work:

1. There is a fast transition of a pulse followed by a bias in the pulse.

2. The fast pulse contains a large number of frequencies (if you look at
the Fourier transform of the leading edge).
3. Different DNA is resonant with different frequencies.
4. The energy of each frequency is divided among all the DNA of that is
resonant with that frequency.
5. There is so much of the body's DNA that the power for it's resonant
frequencies are essentially nil, thus the body's DNA does not break 
apart.
6. There is very little of the pathogen's DNA present, so each strand of 
it's DNA  receives significant power, sufficient to cause the DNA to 
break part.

7. When DNA breaks each end has an opposite charge, so normally the DNA
will immediately be attracted back together and rejoin with no harm
caused to the structure the DNA is part of.
8. Both the zapper designs provide that a bias is present (the Clark an
average bias continuously, and the Beck on a bias for about 1/100 of a
second), which causes the broken oppositely charged ends to be 
attracted
into opposite directions, so that they are unable to find each 
other and

thus the break becomes permanent.
9. The broken DNA kills the virus or cell that the DNA is part of, or at
least makes it so it cannot reproduce.

The requirement for 1/100 second or more bias to be applied to separate
the ends is why the Clark Zapper MUST be unipolar pulses, and not
bipolar, and why when using bipolar pulses like the Beck design, the
pulses must be no more than about 100 Hz.

Marshall


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CSCS- Garlic

[Staya Udanvti Bob Butler]

To the best of my knowledge Garlic loses its enzymes rather quickly after being 
cut open. If it is processed then all the enzymes have been killed. The enzymes 
are the herbal remedy.
Best way to use is to take real, cheap , fresh, garlic cloves and slit them 
open lengthwise, with the grain, and then take it maybe with a little olive oil 
to make a smoother trip down the esophagus. Take two or three cloves twice 
daily for best retention of the enzymes.
Slicing across the grain, pressing and chopping or mincing is ok too if used 
right away, but any processed garlic is more than likely dead and cannot 
perform its herbal cure.
If you smell like garlic from taking garlic then your body is kicking out the 
toxins. When all the toxins are gone then there is no objectionable body/breath 
odor.

Love
Bob
Adageyudi
Staya Udanvti

CSStaph infection

[Terry Chamberlin]

If I had a baby with staph infection, I would give the
baby small amounts of CS (1/2 - 1 tsp) every 2 hours.
I know it has helped adults, but I have no first-hand
knowledge with infants.

I would have no fear that it would hurt the baby in
any way. My oldest daughter gave her son CS every day
since birth.

Terry Chamberlin

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Re: CSCS Results

[Staya Udanvti Bob Butler]

Osiyo Paul!

See the herxheimer reaction website:
http://www.silvermedicine.org/herxheimerreaction.html 

Love
Bob
Adageyudi
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  Original Message - 
  From: paul mccourt 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 5:49 PM
  Subject: CSCS Results


  My wife and I are 5 weeks into a 8 week program suggested by my chiropractor 
of 4 oz. of 80ppm CS twice a day.
  I have Colitis and she has Fibromyalgia. 
  He was also concerned re eliminating possible mycoplasm.
  Both my wife and I have recently experienced episodes of nausea and 
light-headedness/dizziness. The chiro did suggest some funky things would 
start to happen about this point in the program, but didn't elaborate.
  Has anyone shared these symptoms or can enlighten as to wether they could be 
connected to CS?

  Paul McCourt

Re: CSticks,lyme to Pat - worldwide, and not just deer tick

[Rowena]

Marshall, it would appear that it is being spread by more than just the deer 
tick, and similar Borrelia organisms are causing similar illnesses.  Also, 
rather than being confined to particular areas of the USA, Lyme and similar 
problems are world wide, even where there are no deer or deer ticks.  One 
practitioner is calling it Borreliosis (I think) rather than Lyme disease to 
include similar organisms and illnesses.

Rowena


Isn't lyme only spread by the deer tick, no larger the the head of a
pin? 


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Re: CSFW: http://silversol.freewebpage.org/spice/csoff.htm

[Carol Ann]

Mike, wonderful website.  Congratualations.  I spent a lot of time reading it.  
When looking further,   For Marshall Dudleys  link to Lymes, the following is 
displayed. ???
Buffy the Vampire Slayer? g. 








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Re: CSFW: http://silversol.freewebpage.org/spice/csoff.htm

[Mike Monett]

  Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote:

   Mike, wonderful  website. Congratualations. I spent a lot  of time
   reading it.  When  looking further, For Marshall  Dudleys  link to
   Lymes, the following is displayed. ???

   Buffy the Vampire Slayer? g.

  Hi Carol Ann, Thanks for the nice words. I'm sure Marshall  would be
  excellent at  slaying  vampires,  but   it  looks  like  someone has
  hijacked the links to the old eskimo archives. I was hoping  to keep
  the links  intact so when Mike D. hopefully  restores  the archives,
  they would be easy to relink.

  In the meantime, I'll just remove the links so others won't have the
  same problems.

Thanks,

Mike M.


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Re: CSstaph infection

[Dan Nave]

Sorry, my brain skipped over the part about the newborn
when I first read the post.  Obviously, a newborn cannot
drink 1 pint of CS...  and I can't recommend CS for a newborn,
although some have used it without problems.  Duncan's
recommendations seem reasonable.

But a staph infection spreading on a newborn seems pretty extreme
all by itself.

Dan



Duncan Crow wrote:
People who do long-term antibiotics risk illness and bowel 
dysbiosis and candida is assured, and it can be very hard to get 
rid of. 

Once the doctors get started that's very hard to change too, but 
you migh find one who would consider that ozone would be faster, 
effective, and free of side effects and disease inducement risk. 
Topical ozonated olive oil sticks well and nothing escapes it, 
and deep infection responds to ozone bagging. She can also bathe 
the baby in CS or ozonated water or peroxide water too.


Duncan


Forgive me if this has already been discussed before, but I was
wondering if anyone has any experience in curing a staph infection with
CS.  I have a friend whose newborn has a staph infection and is
spreading.  The doctors are beginning IV antibiotics.  Any thoughts?

Kandee








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Re: CSVitamins

[Brickeyk]

I bought 300 1000iu mixed tocopherols from Puritan Pride, 
http://www.puritan.com/ for $23.79, PRODUCT #0550. My order arrived in 6 days 
and I live clear 
across the country.

I did the pulse test on foods when the book first came out, 1975? You are 
right I was allergic to nearly everything except carrots raisins and toast. I 
found that eating a small amount like one egg instead of two eggs caused a peak 
in my heart rate but it recovered in about 1 hour. Two eggs caused a peak that 
lasted 5 or 6 hours. I decided to continue eating the bad food and try to not 
overdo. My friend at work was a Chemist and he thought that toasting the bread 
changed the sugars to sucrose which I could handle better. Bread caused a 
sharp peak. I thought toasting might reduce the mold on the bread.

I wanted to try the MSM for food allergies, and pollen allergies also. I have 
been using the orange juice to cover the taste. Seems to do the trick. I 
bought some ascorbic acid and V8 to also try.

Brickey

CSGlomerulonephritis

[Jonathan B. Britten]

List,

I have been asked to find information to help a man tentatively 
diagnosed with glomerulonephritis, a bladder disease.  Cancer has not 
been ruled out.  There is a large mass in one bladder.


I hope to find out, quickly:

1)	The best method of determining cancerous status.  Non-biopsy options 
would be good to know.  If none, the best method of biopsy -- catheter 
insertion? -- would be helpful.


2)	Any and all non-surgical methods of alleviating the condition, if 
not cancerous.


Thanks very much in advance.  I have done some basic research, but I am 
hoping to find some solid ideas pertaining to nutrition, EIS, and other 
methods.


JBB



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Re: CSStaph infection

[Jonathan B. Britten]

I just asked about a kind of kidney disease on this list, and then read 
this post.  Interestingly, staph infection may be related to the kidney 
disease in some cases, including in infants.   Bottom line:  these 
infections are serious, and had better be monitored by a professional.  
This does NOT mean not using EIS, but rather, being sure the EIS is 
working.  An infant can't tell you anything . . .


JBB


On Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006, at 11:13 Asia/Tokyo, Terry Chamberlin wrote:


If I had a baby with staph infection, I would give the
baby small amounts of CS (1/2 - 1 tsp) every 2 hours.
I know it has helped adults, but I have no first-hand
knowledge with infants.

I would have no fear that it would hurt the baby in
any way. My oldest daughter gave her son CS every day
since birth.

Terry Chamberlin

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Re: CSStaph infection

[debbiegerard99]

I know I mentioned this before but what type of drops are used right when the 
baby is born...in it's eyes silver something...so if it is okay for the eyes I 
certainly would trust it for the baby too...better then the deadly 
anit-biotic's they pump into themdebbie
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 If I had a baby with staph infection, I would give the 
 baby small amounts of CS (1/2 - 1 tsp) every 2 hours. 
 I know it has helped adults, but I have no first-hand 
 knowledge with infants. 
 
 I would have no fear that it would hurt the baby in 
 any way. My oldest daughter gave her son CS every day 
 since birth. 
 
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CSticks,lyme to Pat - worldwide, and not just deer tick

[oldgl...@bigcountry.net]

Hi,

Then I can believe the mosquito is a carrier.  Why not?

Jean 

***
 
 Marshall, it would appear that it is being spread by more than just the deer
 tick, and similar Borrelia organisms are causing similar illnesses.  Also,
 rather than being confined to particular areas of the USA, Lyme and similar
 problems are world wide, even where there are no deer or deer ticks.  One
 practitioner is calling it Borreliosis (I think) rather than Lyme disease to
 include similar organisms and illnesses.
 
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Re: CSStaph infection

[Mike Monett]

  debbiegerar...@comcast.net wrote:

   I know  I  mentioned this before but what type of  drops  are used
   right when the baby is born. In it's eyes silver something.  So if
   it is  okay for the eyes I certainly would trust it  for  the baby
   too. Better then the deadly anit-biotic's they pump into them.

   debbie

  Debbie, I  think you are referring to silver nitrate. This  is quite
  corrosive and blackens the babies eyes. I'm not sure you would apply
  it to a baby's skin. Certainly the larger area would give one pause.

  It also causes Argyria, and is the product Rosemary used.  The gurus
  on the list will probably have more information, but I think this is
  no longer recommended.

  I think your keyboard is sticking and making too many  periods. Here
  they are in case you run out one day and need some more:)

  .. .. .. ...

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