RE: CSIONIC DETOXIFICATION.

[Ed Kasper]

Thanks Ode.
Is that the way the silver cleaner works. Putting baking
soda in water with a piece of aluminum foil?

Ed

-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:23 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSIONIC DETOXIFICATION.


At 05:44 PM 9/4/2006 -0700, you wrote:

Ionic silver versus ionic detoxification ? Is there a
difference.
Can some one explain how the ionic detox works, tried
Google
with plans and how to got 153,000 hits but no breakdown of
how the thing really works nuts and bolts wise.

Couldn't you just put your feet in the CS machine ?

Ed

##  Yup
  Depending on what you do with the electrodes and
electrolytes, voltage
and current, you can put silver in or take stuff out right
through the skin.
..but what stuff is coming out?  I don't see how it can be
very
selective.  Mebbe it doesn't need to be if you put the
right stuff back in.
  You don't need an electrode array.  Just put a rubber matt
in a stainless
steel pot full of salt water and stand on it.
  Control the current flow by how salty the water is or use
a
potentiometer...or both. [If your toes start to wiggle, turn
it down]

Ode



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Re: CSKen, allergies?

[Ode Coyote]

At 05:31 PM 9/5/2006 -0400, you wrote:



 ### So, why worry about sanitary?
 This place is a SEA of germies...nuthin new about that.
 Park your car in the sun for an hour.UV light, ozone and air kills
 almost all of em right fast.
 Ever hear how kids who eat dirt don't get nearly as many allergies 
later on?


Yeah, and I also know some have died from eating dirt laced with lead from
battery acid, and some bugs on that windshield may still have active
stingers in them, and some may just be nasssty-tasting!!

Btw, bird poop will eat the paint off your car, much less the surface of
your tongue.


##  You might find yourself surprised at how many foods you eat will eat 
the paint off your car.
 Bird poop won't eat your tongue, it gets diluted by saliva and doesn't 
stay there for a week...but hey, my windshield stays cleaner that the rest 
of the car and I can see bird poop and bug splatters.




And as far as more local goes, unless you stay on  your own property all
the time, you will encounter other allergens, say, going to the library, or
the PTA meeting across town, or the City Council meeting, or to your local
polling place to vote.


## In your own yard, you are as local as the wind .



You do vote, right?


##  Yup, Libertarian by philosophy, but cotton to the least of the two 
weevils at the bolls in practice .
 After dancing to the tune of No choice here is a good one and Anyone 
who would want to lead should be disqualified at the ballet box, I get a 
little lapel button that says I voted...pronounced I Vetoed [wink]
 I'd like to see leaders *drafted* from those who run 'from' office.  The 
one who gets the furthest away wins a prison term in office. [Oh golly, 
let's just do this right so we can go home!]

 A dis-barred lawyer is one who escaped?
 I heard somewhere that Russia had a none of the above box for vote 
counters to ignore.

ken [ode]



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RE: CSIONIC DETOXIFICATION.

[Ode Coyote]

  Ionic transfer between different potentials, yes.  Silver and Aluminum 
makes it's own battery..a very weak one.
 Add an external battery and you add to the differences in potential, can 
direct which way ions go and at what rate.

Ode

At 11:17 PM 9/5/2006 -0700, you wrote:


Thanks Ode.
Is that the way the silver cleaner works. Putting baking
soda in water with a piece of aluminum foil?

Ed

-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:23 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSIONIC DETOXIFICATION.


At 05:44 PM 9/4/2006 -0700, you wrote:

Ionic silver versus ionic detoxification ? Is there a
difference.
Can some one explain how the ionic detox works, tried
Google
with plans and how to got 153,000 hits but no breakdown of
how the thing really works nuts and bolts wise.

Couldn't you just put your feet in the CS machine ?

Ed

##  Yup
  Depending on what you do with the electrodes and
electrolytes, voltage
and current, you can put silver in or take stuff out right
through the skin.
..but what stuff is coming out?  I don't see how it can be
very
selective.  Mebbe it doesn't need to be if you put the
right stuff back in.
  You don't need an electrode array.  Just put a rubber matt
in a stainless
steel pot full of salt water and stand on it.
  Control the current flow by how salty the water is or use
a
potentiometer...or both. [If your toes start to wiggle, turn
it down]

Ode



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RE: CSIONIC DETOXIFICATION.

[Dan Nave]

 You wrote:

You don't need an electrode array.  Just put a rubber matt in a
stainless steel pot full of salt water and stand on it.
 Control the current flow by how salty the water is or use a
potentiometer...or both. [If your toes start to wiggle, turn it down]

Where are you suggesting to put the electrodes?  And what polarity?

Dan

-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 12:23 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSIONIC DETOXIFICATION.

At 05:44 PM 9/4/2006 -0700, you wrote:

Ionic silver versus ionic detoxification ? Is there a difference.
Can some one explain how the ionic detox works, tried Google with plans

and how to got 153,000 hits but no breakdown of how the thing really 
works nuts and bolts wise.

Couldn't you just put your feet in the CS machine ?

Ed

##  Yup
  Depending on what you do with the electrodes and electrolytes, voltage
and current, you can put silver in or take stuff out right through the
skin.
..but what stuff is coming out?  I don't see how it can be very
selective.  Mebbe it doesn't need to be if you put the right stuff
back in.
  You don't need an electrode array.  Just put a rubber matt in a
stainless steel pot full of salt water and stand on it.
  Control the current flow by how salty the water is or use a
potentiometer...or both. [If your toes start to wiggle, turn it down]

Ode


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CSCS viruses

[Terry Chamberlin]

SILVER KILLS VIRUSES, STUDY FINDS

Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - FreeMarketNews.com

In a groundbreaking study, the Journal of
Nanotechnology has published a study that found silver
nanoparticles kills HIV-1 and is likely to kill
virtually any other virus. The study, which was
conducted by the University of Texas and Mexico
University, is the first medical study to ever explore
the benefits of silver nanoparticles, according to
Physorg.

During the study, researchers used three different
methods of limiting the size of the silver
nanoparticles by using capping agents. The capping
agents were foamy carbon, poly (PVP), and bovine serum
albumin (BSA). The particles ranged in size from 1 to
10 nanometers depending on the method of capping.
After incubating the HIV-1 virus at 37 C, the silver
particles killed 100% of the virus within 3 hours for
all three methods. The scientists believe that the
silver particles bonded through glycoprotein knobs on
the virus with spacing of about 22 nanometers in
length. 

While further research is needed, researchers are
optimistic that nanological silver may be the silver
bullet to kill viruses. The researchers in the study
said that they had already begin experiments using
silver nanoparticles to kill what is known as the
super bug (Methicillin resistant staphylococcus
aureus). Already used as a topical antibiotic in the
medical industry, silver may now come under
consideration as an alternative to drugs when it comes
to fighting previously untreatable viruses such as the
Tamiflu resistant avian flu.

Staff Reports - Free-Market News Network

www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=1401 

Study Shows Silver Nanoparticles Attach to HIV-1 virus

Nanotechnology: October 14, 2005
 
In the first-ever study of metal nanoparticles'
interaction with HIV-1, silver nanoparticles of sizes
1-10nm attached to HIV-1 and prevented the virus from
bonding to host cells. The study, published in the
Journal of Nanotechnology, was a joint project between
the University of Texas, Austin and Mexico Univeristy,
Nuevo Leon.

Our article opens an important avenue for research,
said Miguel Jose Yacaman, from University of Texas,
Department of Engineering and one of the study's
authors. 

In this study, scientists mixed silver nanoparticles
with three different capping agents: foamy carbon,
poly (PVP), and bovine serum albumin (BSA).Not using
a capping agent could result in the synthesis of big
crystals instead of nanocrystals, explained Yacaman. 

Transmission electron microscopy (TEM) showed the
silver nanoparticles in the foamy carbon matrix were
joined together, but an ultrasonic bath in deionized
water released a significant number of nanoparticles.
These nanoparticles were of size 16.19 (+-8.69)nm and
had the greatest variety of shapes, such as
icosahedral, decahedral, and elongated. 

Because of the synthesis procedure, the foamy
carbon-coated naoparticles are more likely to have
broad shape distribution, said Yacaman. Scientists
used the electron beam to release the remainder of the
nanoparticles from the joined bundle. 

For the PVP-coated silver nanoparticles, scientists
used glycerine as a dissolving agent. These particles
were of size 6.53 (+-2.41). In the third preparation,
scientists used serum albumin, the most common protein
in blood plasma. The sulfur, oxygen, and nitrogen
chemicals in BSA stabilized the nanoparticles, which
were in the range of 3.12 (+-2.00) nm. 

Scientists studied the absorption spectra of the
different preparations to pinpoint their shapes.
Spherical nanoparticles absorbed in the blue region
of the spectrum, for example, Yacaman said. 

Also, the UV-Visible spectra graphs helped the group
determine nanoparticle sizes. The surface plasmon
resonance peak wavelength increased with size,
explained Yacaman. 

Scientists tested, in vitro, each of three silver
nanoparticle-preparations in HIV-1 cells. Yacaman and
his colleagues incubated the samples at 37 C. After
three hours and 24 hours, respectively, 0% of the
cells were living. 

The results showed that a silver nanoparticle
concentration greater than 25 ug/mL worked more
effectively at inhibiting HIV-1 cells. Plus, the foamy
carbon was a slightly better capping agent because of
its free surface area. Size also played a role since
none of the attached nanoparticles were greater than
10nm. 

Scientists think the nanoparticles bonded through the
gp120 glycoprotein knobs on HIV-1, using the sulfur
residues on the knobs. The spacing between the knobs
of ~22nm matched the center-to-center nanoparticle
spacing. 

Although this study shows silver nanoparticles may
treat HIV-1, scientists need to research this
relationship further. We lack information regarding
the long-term effects of metal nanoparticles,
cautioned Yacaman. Scientists are forming a preventive
cream for HIV-1, which they will test on humans. 

Scientists are also studying other uses for silver
nanoparticles. We're testing against other viruses
and the 'super 

CSWhipple Bacteria

[hj]

Hi all:

My father has been diagnosed with the rare Whipple's Disease
(http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/pubs/whipple/index.htm).

He's started to have joint problems about 25 years ago, and a
couple of years ago he had to have heart surgery because the
bacteria did some damage to it. He's now lost much weight and
is in constant pain. Is anybody familiar with this disease, and if
so, did you try taking CS for it, and did it help?

Thanks much,

Heidi


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CSSilver Cleaner

[SMax]

 
Ed~ 
This is a great inexpensive homemade recipe to clean your silver. The author
is Graham Haley of Haley's Cleaning Hints 
1 teaspoon water softener 
1 teaspoon salt 
1 cup heated water 
Place the above three in a glass baking dish or cup on top of aluminum foil.
 Dip your silver and a moment later . . . . . say Voila! 
 
Note: - Not recommended for silver with stones. 
 
---Original Message--- 
 
From: Ed Kasper 
Date: 9/5/2006 11:23:19 PM 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: RE: CSIONIC DETOXIFICATION. 
 
Thanks Ode. 
Is that the way the silver cleaner works. Putting baking 
soda in water with a piece of aluminum foil? 
 
Ed 
 


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Re: CSnitrofurantoin

[ruth strackbein]

Hi, I don't know if the flush you speak of is what my chiropracter has 
recommended. What he is suggesting is called a colema, in which your system 
is flooded with water and other stuff continuously for a time.  This 
treatment costs 200-300 dollars a session .  You can buy your own colema 
outfit , but it also costs several hundred dollars.  I don't have loose 
2-300 dollars available and too buy the outfit, (I have seen one pictured. ) 
It doesn't look like there would be room for it in my bathroom.  But maybe 
that is not what you are suggesting.  Let me know.  Cheers, Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: ekowal...@aol.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSnitrofurantoin
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:32:00 EDT

Hi, ever thought of doing liver/gallbladder flush? I've heard of it helping
a lot of symptoms of people who no longer had their gallbladder. Often 
helping

 the problems that gallbladder removal was SUPPOSED to help but didn't.

''Lance''





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CSsilver iontophoresis device

[Dan Nave]

A silver iontophoresis device for warts, herpes, etc

http://www.dermaseptic.com/
http://www.dermaseptic.com/howitworks.html





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Re: CSRe: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections

[ruth strackbein]

Hi, Trudy!  I have the same problem, like with our ladies' group at church.  
Most of what they have to eat after a meeting are food I don't eat.  I 
almost said can't, but that wouldn't necessarily be true.  I'm not sure 
what I reallycan and can't eat, I just try to eat whole foods that will help 
my body and not hurt it.  Then I juice some vegetables and cook others over 
low heat, or steam or bake them.  I just drink water at the meetings and use 
the time to talk with friends.  When I go to someone's home, or to a church 
supper, and so forth, I bring my own food.  Sometimes there are foods 
provided that I feel safe with, but when I have my own, I know I'm okay.  
Mostly I only eat meals outside my home with other members of family.  I let 
the others know how delicious their food looks, but stick to what I think is 
good for me.  Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: Gertrude dj...@home.nl
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRe: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: 
CSKidney Infections

Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 23:31:10 +0200

Ruth I have learned a lot these days!

http://www.truthinlabeling.org/index.html

http://www.truthinlabeling.org/UnwantedAdverseReactions.html

The D-Mannose I can buy in The Netherlands.

I have a  lovely Indonesian daughter in lawnow I have to tell her to 
cook without vetsin...and soja sauses...maybe we have to look in a bio shop 
for other products. .
She makes such a nice mealsalways nices snacks...always 
cooking...always so coosy...how can I tell her not to cook so often for 
me.???


Trudy


- Original Message - From: ruth strackbein 
ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:17 PM
Subject: RE: CSRe: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: 
CSKidney Infections



Hi again, I don't use Msg either, and almost never eat in restaurants.  I 
use a celiac diet, although I am not a diagnosed celiac patient. I read 
labels.  Stick to fruits, vegetables, still eat meat daily since I have 
been losing weight and feel I need that.  I use brown rice and 
old-fashioned oatmeal for grains, also have trouble with the tomato-potato 
family and get alot of gas with cabbage family, but try some now and then. 
Am also working on getting away from drugstore variety vitamins.  This is 
hard because so much of theorganic food, etc. is so expensive. Ruth


From Ruth Strackbein



From: noblemet...@bellsouth.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSRe: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney 
Infections

Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 7:42:15 -0400

I,too, have the high stomach pain . I believe mine is sugar related. I 
have found that many restaurants are using sugar to make all their foods 
taste better. Msg also causes the pain.


 From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
 Date: 2006/09/03 Sun PM 05:27:38 EDT
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney
Infections

 Yes, I have had it at other times. Still have it today, though the
 diarrhea and nausea has stopped. This isn't under my right ribcage,
 though, it is more centered, if anything slightly to the left of  
center.

 I have to see a cardiologist at the end of this month for mild
 abnormalities in the imaging portion of a recent stress test.
 At the moment, I'm not sure what is causing what. Whole bunch of stuff
 happening to me that I'm trying to get figured out.  I have had this
 high stomach pain off and on for quite a while now. Supposed to try
 Nexium (changed to Protonix), but neither seemed to do anything and  
both

 have what I consider unacceptable side effects.
 sol

 ruth strackbein wrote:

  Hi, This message is interesting to me, because of your comment about
  having sharp pain under your right ribcage immediately after taking
  the D Mannose.  I get such a pain almost every day .  Am trying to
  track it down to certain foods.  Today I had it right after eating a
  yellow tomato and again later in the afternoon after eating a dab of
  peanut butter.  I am keeping a record of these things. Do you have
  this sensation at other times?  Ruth
 


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Re: CSsilver iontophoresis device

[Marshall Dudley]

I wonder how long they will be around before the FDA shuts them down.

Marshall

Dan Nave wrote:

 A silver iontophoresis device for warts, herpes, etc

 http://www.dermaseptic.com/
 http://www.dermaseptic.com/howitworks.html

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RE: CSsilver iontophoresis device

[Dan Nave]

Apparently, they have done some testing.  You can read it on the
website.

Dan 

-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:41 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSsilver iontophoresis device

I wonder how long they will be around before the FDA shuts them down.

Marshall

Dan Nave wrote:

 A silver iontophoresis device for warts, herpes, etc

 http://www.dermaseptic.com/
 http://www.dermaseptic.com/howitworks.html




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Re: CSRe: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections

[Gertrude]

Yes Ruth thats the best you can do...at the meetingsgood idea.
I also drink a lot of well-water and tea...rooibos and mosttimes green tea.

Now I know that I have to make more pure food...not the salades from the 
grocery...no ve-tsin  and msg  and E-numbers  from more than 200... and take 
fresh oranges ...apples.. carrots  a.s. o. ,I have a juicer too.


So we will be healthier to make and bring our own food.
Thank you Ruth,
Be blessed.
Trudy






- Original Message - 
From: ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: CSRe: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney 
Infections



Hi, Trudy!  I have the same problem, like with our ladies' group at 
church.  Most of what they have to eat after a meeting are food I don't 
eat.  I almost said can't, but that wouldn't necessarily be true.  I'm 
not sure what I reallycan and can't eat, I just try to eat whole foods 
that will help my body and not hurt it.  Then I juice some vegetables and 
cook others over low heat, or steam or bake them.  I just drink water at 
the meetings and use the time to talk with friends.  When I go to 
someone's home, or to a church supper, and so forth, I bring my own food. 
Sometimes there are foods provided that I feel safe with, but when I have 
my own, I know I'm okay.  Mostly I only eat meals outside my home with 
other members of family.  I let the others know how delicious their food 
looks, but stick to what I think is good for me.  Ruth


From Ruth Strackbein



From: Gertrude dj...@home.nl
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRe: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: 
CSKidney Infections

Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 23:31:10 +0200

Ruth I have learned a lot these days!

http://www.truthinlabeling.org/index.html

http://www.truthinlabeling.org/UnwantedAdverseReactions.html

The D-Mannose I can buy in The Netherlands.

I have a  lovely Indonesian daughter in lawnow I have to tell her to 
cook without vetsin...and soja sauses...maybe we have to look in a bio 
shop for other products. .
She makes such a nice mealsalways nices snacks...always 
cooking...always so coosy...how can I tell her not to cook so often for 
me.???


Trudy


- Original Message - From: ruth strackbein 
ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:17 PM
Subject: RE: CSRe: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: 
CSKidney Infections



Hi again, I don't use Msg either, and almost never eat in restaurants.  I 
use a celiac diet, although I am not a diagnosed celiac patient. I read 
labels.  Stick to fruits, vegetables, still eat meat daily since I have 
been losing weight and feel I need that.  I use brown rice and 
old-fashioned oatmeal for grains, also have trouble with the 
tomato-potato family and get alot of gas with cabbage family, but try 
some now and then. Am also working on getting away from drugstore variety 
vitamins.  This is hard because so much of theorganic food, etc. is so 
expensive. Ruth


From Ruth Strackbein



From: noblemet...@bellsouth.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSRe: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney 
Infections

Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 7:42:15 -0400

I,too, have the high stomach pain . I believe mine is sugar related. I 
have found that many restaurants are using sugar to make all their foods 
taste better. Msg also causes the pain.


 From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
 Date: 2006/09/03 Sun PM 05:27:38 EDT
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney
Infections

 Yes, I have had it at other times. Still have it today, though the
 diarrhea and nausea has stopped. This isn't under my right ribcage,
 though, it is more centered, if anything slightly to the left of 
center.
 I have to see a cardiologist at the end of this month for mild
 abnormalities in the imaging portion of a recent stress test.
 At the moment, I'm not sure what is causing what. Whole bunch of 
 stuff

 happening to me that I'm trying to get figured out.  I have had this
 high stomach pain off and on for quite a while now. Supposed to try
 Nexium (changed to Protonix), but neither seemed to do anything and 
both
 have what I consider unacceptable side effects.
 sol

 ruth strackbein wrote:

  Hi, This message is interesting to me, because of your comment 
  about

  having sharp pain under your right ribcage immediately after taking
  the D Mannose.  I get such a pain almost every day .  Am trying to
  track it down to certain foods.  Today I had it right after eating 
  a
  yellow tomato and again later in the afternoon after eating a dab 
  of

  peanut butter.  I am keeping a record of these things. Do you have
  this sensation at other times?  Ruth
 


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Re: CSHip Dysplasia

[Day Sutton]

Yes they were both confirmed by xray...

On 9/4/06, Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote:


Day said, I cured CURED two of my Bernese Mountain
Dogs of Hip Dysplasia.

Did you have xrays?  My lab had hip dysplasia as shown
by xray when he was a few months old and had trouble
going up steps and was sore after playing.  The only
solution would have been hip surgery at $2,000 each.
We gave him green-lipped mussel which inhibits
inflammation.  He did fine as long as he didn't
overdohe was a real couch potato.  As soon as the
breeder saw the xray, his sire lost a certain part of
his anatomy and was retired from his enjoyable job.

 Pat

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Re: CSDMSO

[Deborah Gerard]

I bought mine from the farmers equipment store in my area...debbie

geop...@aol.com wrote:  need a good source for quality dmso,, i have a 
container of it that has to be 15 years old,, i am reluctantant to use on me or 
my pets... was popular back than, and could by anyplace,, renewed interest has 
me seeking a source,, thanks, geo. 


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Re: CSDMSO

[Heather Brown]

Check health food stores .that is where I got both liquid 70% concentration 
and gel ..70% dmso  with  aloe vera

Great stuff 

Heather B.
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  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 7:53 PM
  Subject: Re: CSDMSO


  I bought mine from the farmers equipment store in my area...debbie

  geop...@aol.com wrote: 
need a good source for quality dmso,, i have a container of it that has to 
be 15 years old,, i am reluctantant to use on me or my pets... was popular back 
than, and could by anyplace,, renewed interest has me seeking a source,, 
thanks, geo. 


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CSDogs and cs

[CHERYL HOLMES]

My dogs are on a modified raw diet, we all detox together and all of us do cs!  
They're in great health despite their ages!  c



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RE: CSIONIC DETOXIFICATION.

[Ed Kasper]

Thanks,

ED
-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 5:48 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSIONIC DETOXIFICATION.




   Ionic transfer between different potentials, yes.  Silver
and Aluminum
makes it's own battery..a very weak one.
  Add an external battery and you add to the differences in
potential, can
direct which way ions go and at what rate.
Ode

At 11:17 PM 9/5/2006 -0700, you wrote:

Thanks Ode.
Is that the way the silver cleaner works. Putting baking
soda in water with a piece of aluminum foil?

Ed

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Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:23 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSIONIC DETOXIFICATION.


At 05:44 PM 9/4/2006 -0700, you wrote:

 Ionic silver versus ionic detoxification ? Is there a
 difference.
 Can some one explain how the ionic detox works, tried
Google
 with plans and how to got 153,000 hits but no breakdown
of
 how the thing really works nuts and bolts wise.
 
 Couldn't you just put your feet in the CS machine ?
 
 Ed

##  Yup
   Depending on what you do with the electrodes and
electrolytes, voltage
and current, you can put silver in or take stuff out right
through the skin.
..but what stuff is coming out?  I don't see how it can be
very
selective.  Mebbe it doesn't need to be if you put the
right stuff back in.
   You don't need an electrode array.  Just put a rubber
matt
in a stainless
steel pot full of salt water and stand on it.
   Control the current flow by how salty the water is or
use
a
potentiometer...or both. [If your toes start to wiggle,
turn
it down]

Ode



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CS[RE]Re: CSHip Dysplasia:COMMENT

[Brooks]

 During calendar 1990 we had a principal investigator conduct a detailed project designed to evaluate various protocols for ameliorating hip dysplasia in dogs.  A majority of the experimental population was composed of Dobermans and German Shepards (Primarily because of the very high incidence of deterioration of the hip joints in these breeds).  Many different protocols involving diet, mineral supplements, physical therapy, patented drugs and alternative medical approaches were evaluated.  Almost all evinced some degree of improvement.but only one yielded almost universal, high-degree, rapid positive resolution..with no side effects.  The protocol involved the simple addition of alfalfa in the form of tablets or powdered granules.to the diet.  For rapid improvement the required volume was about one heaping teaspoon of powdered alfalfa or 12 standard 50 mg tablets, per day for a 30 to 60 pound dog  (about 6 tablets or 3/4 teaspoon for smaller dogs, down t!
 o 10 lbs weight).  I was so impressed with his results, that in 1993, when our 10 year old Sheppard mix came down with SEVERE  hip dysplasiaafter receiving the vets pronouncement that NOTHING could really help (Teddy was in constant pain induced upon rising or walking and he required 300 mg of Butazolidin (enough to pain-sedate a 1500 lb horse)
just to bear the pain enough to rise and relieve himself.and his cries of pain in doing so were more than my wife could bear)  As a last resort, my wife began administering alfalfa
as a supplement to his food.within 5 days he could stand without pain;  within 14 days he was able to run, pain free, and go up stairs without discomfort.  We considered this, essentially, a miracle.  Teddy lived an additional pain-free 5 years, succumbing to age-related complications in late 1998.
  During the ensuing years we have informed dozens of friends, acquaintances, and veternarians of this protocol..with almost UNIVERSAL beneficial results.  Some individuals informed that somewhat larger dosages were required for larger dogs  ( 50 and over pounds). 
   MSM, Glucosamine Sulphate and Chrondroitin were not widely known supplements at the time our research was being conducted..but I am informed that Alfalfa meal, or tablets,  still get results in cases not totally responsive to these later protocols.
   Our researcher confessed he received his original inspiration from a woman who had written to Prevention Magazine back in the 1970srevealing her wonderful results in saving her beloved German Sheppard suffering hip dysplasia, with alfalfa meal supplement.
 I hope this information may prove of value to some on the list.  I made a post covering the general parameters of this research some five or six years ago.but since the Archives are no longer available I ask the indulgence of those of you who are, already,
aware of this protocol.
Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.
p.s.  Whenever we forgot, or ran out of alfalfa for a period of 5 to 7 days running, Teddy's 
symptoms began to reappear..he received alfalfa supplementally the rest of his life.
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>Subjtect : Re: CS>Hip Dysplasia
>Date : Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:29:32 -0400
>From : "Day Sutton" 
>To : silver-list@eskimo.com
>
>Yes they were both confirmed by xray...
>
>On 9/4/06, Pat  wrote:
>>
>> Day said, "I cured "CURED" two of my Bernese Mountain
>> Dogs of Hip Dysplasia."
>>
>> Did you have xrays?  My lab had hip dysplasia as shown
>> by xray when he was a few months old and had trouble
>> going up steps and was sore after playing.  The only
>> solution would have been hip surgery at $2,000 each.
>> We gave him green-lipped mussel which inhibits
>> inflammation.  He did fine as long as he didn't
>> overdohe was a real couch potato.  As soon as the
>> breeder saw the xray, his sire lost a certain part of
>> his anatomy and was retired from his enjoyable job.
>>
>>  Pat
>>
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Re: CS[RE]Re: CSHip Dysplasia:COMMENT

[Teri Johnston]

Brooks,

Thank you so much for this info.  I just happen to give all my dogs 
alfalfa granules daily along with stinging neetles and kelp, 1000mg 
fish oil and 400mg Vit E.


Teri and her 7 welsh springers.


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Re: CSKen, allergies?

[Stuff]

At 05:23 AM 9/6/2006, you wrote:


You do vote, right?


##  Yup, Libertarian by philosophy, but cotton to the least of the 
two weevils at the bolls in practice .
 After dancing to the tune of No choice here is a good one and 
Anyone who would want to lead should be disqualified at the 
ballet box, I get a little lapel button that says I 
voted...pronounced I Vetoed [wink]
 I'd like to see leaders *drafted* from those who run 'from' 
office.  The one who gets the furthest away wins a prison term in 
office. [Oh golly, let's just do this right so we can go home!]

 A dis-barred lawyer is one who escaped?
 I heard somewhere that Russia had a none of the above box for 
vote counters to ignore.

ken [ode]


I don't vote. I won't encourage any of 'em. Yea, I know the ol' saw, then you
deserve what you get. I voted for quite a while. Nothing changed. I got
what I didn't want, good and hard.

Nevada has a 'none of the above' on their ballot. Trouble is if none 
of the above

wins, it don' make no never mind. Only a candidate can win. Why did they bother
to put it on the ballot then?  Just sniffing the wind, I guess.

Now, knowing how Mike despises the political on this list, I'll refrain.

He's right. Life is better without politics anyway. When has anyone ever seen
value there?

stuff 



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CSXDR TB

[Jonathan B. Britten]

Extremely drug-resistant TB is emerging in many countries.  It is said 
to be untreatable.  Experts have been fearing this for many years.   
List members may want to Google XDR TB to learn more.  Whether EIS 
might be of any use I don't know.



JBB


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