Re: raw feeding vs commercial foods, was Re: CSMelamine chemical reaction in pet food recall (OT)

[Dee]

I thought this subject was now over.  Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: sol
Date: 05/11/07 05:47:06
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: raw feeding vs commercial foods, was Re: CSMelamine chemical
reaction in pet food recall (OT)
 
Dee wrote:
   Humans have a long
 digestive tract and grinding teeth which are designed to deal with the
tough
 vegetable cellulose and fibre which would pass through a dog undigested,

Actually I have read an extremely convincing article, complete with
measurments of the intestines of various species which refutes the above
statement. The conclusion of the article was that humans have digestive
systems much closer to carnivores than to herbivores.
 

Re: CSapology

[Dee]

Last word on this subject as people are sick to death of it (vbg) I don't
apologize to Janet as I don't consider I had anything to apologize for,
rather the reverse in fact, although I agree her point of view is as
valuable as anyone elses.   My apology was to the list for wasting their
valuable time on a subject which wasn't appropriate.  Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Clayton Family
Date: 10/05/2007 20:53:17
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Dee
Subject: Re: CSapology
 
Janet unsubbed, so she did not get your apology. Maybe you could send
it you her personal email. She has a valuable point of view, and it
would be nice if she could consider resubbing.
 
Kathryn
 

CSXylitol for a nose flush

[Dawie Niemann Spoornet JHB]

Hi Ladies and Gentleman of this list

Thank you for the valuable  website about Xylitol, I appreciate it !!!
Janet, thank you for the warning, I will keep Xylitol away from my dogs.


Kind regards with many silver linings around your dark clouds

Dawie Nieamnn
   





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Sent: 09 May 2007 07:28 PM
To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com
Subject: silver-digest Digest V2007 #239

silver-digest DigestVolume 2007 : Issue 239

Today's Topics:
  Re: CSCS gel other burn remedies/  [ Garnet garnetri...@granitepoint.ne ]
  Re: CSMelamine chemical reaction in  [ Garnet garnetri...@granitepoint.ne ]
  Re: CSMelamine chemical reaction in  [ Garnet garnetri...@granitepoint.ne ]
  Re: CSCS gel other burn remedies   [ Carlos Pérez explorer...@hotmail ]
  CSRE: silver-digest Digest V2007 #1  [ Dawie Niemann Spoornet JHB Dawie ]
  Re: CSRE: silver-digest Digest V200  [ m1mar...@aol.com ]
  Re: CSPet Food   [ Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com ]
  CSBig Pharma: Americans betrayed by  [ laquerenci...@sbcglobal.net ]
  Re: CSRE: silver-digest Digest V200  [ Garnet garnetri...@granitepoint.ne ]
  Re: CSPet Food   [ Garnet garnetri...@granitepoint.ne ]
  CSUltrasonic Nebulizer question  [ ransley rans...@atmc.net ]
  Re: CSPet Food   [ Jodi W Menard jwmen...@cox.net ]
  Re: CSPet Food   [ Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.co ]
  Re: CSPet Food   [ Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.co ]
  Re: CSPet Food   [ Barbara barba...@tampabay.rr.com ]
  CSRaw Feeding for Pets   [ s...@emotap.com s...@emotap.com ]
  Re: CSRaw Feeding for Pets   [ Jodi W Menard jwmen...@cox.net ]
  Re: CSPet Food   [ Jodi W Menard jwmen...@cox.net ]

Re: CSUltrasonic Nebulizer question

[mukta]

Hi Daddybob, group,

I was trying to complete the Brooks Bradley airbrush set but
faced difficulties where I live. After some hesitation and
research these days I bought an Omron NE-28 pump-type
nebulizer. It claims 5 um particles, as do also some
ultrasonic units like Mystique.

It can be used with CS finely. In addition the protocol with
hot pepper (separately!) can help.

I wonder whether I can supply oxygen at the air intake but
suppose that it would deteriorate internal plastic and
rubber parts. Another option is to feed oxygen just before
the nebulizing chamber - not a big deal. This will increase
oxygen content in mixture with air. Wonder if it will
nebulize well then. Please offer ideas in this sense.

If anyone can direct me to a link showing ultrasonic
nebulizer internals and schematic diagram please do it.

Simeon




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Re: CSUltrasonic Nebulizer question

[CWFugitt]

Morning  Simeon,

 At 02:54 AM 5/11/2007, you wrote:

If anyone can direct me to a link showing ultrasonic
nebulizer internals and schematic diagram please do it.


 Do you mean electronics or  air and associated functions?

Wayne


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Re: CSPACE questions

[M. G. Devour]

Dear Shelli,

 Thanks Mike. That does help. I'm still a little skeptical, only because
 I've never had much luck with exercise. I either can't stick with it or
 if I do stick with it, I don't get much result.

Understand the feeling. I'm not big on sticking with these things.

 I suppose I tone up some but I've never lost weight with exercise and I
 don't get the feel good feeling that some people do afterwards.

I get a sweat, and usually get rid of the stiffness and soreness I get 
when I'm inactive. If I push too hard, there'll be a different kind of 
soreness, but then I know to moderate a little. 

I don't think these workouts are enough to trigger release of 
endorphins, however. They're barely long enough to challenge my 
attention span, let alone get into the zone. LOL

 Anyway, enough whining. Do you feel like it is doing anything for your
 lung capacity or your heart? 

Too soon to tell. I'll re-evaluate in another month before I make any 
decision about whether it's working or not.

The way you build up muscle on this program, you're not likely to see 
any weight loss until the increased metabolism finally burns off enough 
fat to balance the muscle weight gain.

 I'm considering getting a rebounder and using it with PACE. I just
 don't want to be disappointed again and waste more money. Please keep
 me updated, even if you'd like to email me privately since this is OT.
 Thanks! Shelli 

Any exercise form that you find enjoyable (or at least tolerable) can 
be adapted to the PACE format. Go with what you have or what you think 
you'd like. If you do buy a good rebounder and don't like it, there're 
always buyers who'll give you back most of what you paid for it.

I'll report again when I think I have anything worth telling.

Be well,

Mike D.
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Fw: CSTO TERRY - In memory of Nancy

[Susan]

I am way behind in my emails and just now came across this,I would really 
like a copy of Nancy's journal too. Thank you.  Susan  lex...@look.ca
- Original Message - 
From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: CSTO TERRY - In memory of Nancy



I have a friend, who has a 40yr. something daughter
with MS.  Please send it to me terry.  Thanks !
telt...@cableone.net
Tel Tofflemire


Terry Chamberlin wrote:

For those of you whom I have not sent it to, I have
a
copy of her 2-year journal that she kept as she
vanquished MS with CS. Contact me and I will send
it
to you.

Terry Chamberlin


I would like a copy of it, too, please.  Our rescue
beagle Lucy has
recently been diagnosed with degenerative myelopathy
(DM), which is
often called canine MS.  Maybe there would be some
tips to help Lucy.  I
didn't know CS is effective against MS.  I look
forward to receiving the
journal.

I don't believe I knew Nancy, but I do send prayers
and heartfelt
sympathy to her family and those of you who knew and
loved her.

Thank you very much,
Susan



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RE: CSMange

[Wendy]

I swear our dogs had mange late last fall..  From what I read any type
of mange 'could' be looked at as the immune system needing to be
balanced and improved. In our case that was most definitely true as life
had gotten busy and their diets had gotten fairly basic. 
 
Anyhow we did give the dogs CS to drink and also used Ted's hydrogen
peroxide and borax, as well as some herbal tinctures from the holistic
vet to support kidneys and spleen (apparent weakness in our breed). Teds
cure, did stop the itching but bathing our big guys frequently in our
itty bitty bathtub in the winter was not all that easy. Although ours
wasn't the mange where all the hair falls out in patches we did have
hair loss on the ears, which regrew in the first couple weeks. They did
continue to itch off and on but we also believe there may have been a
pesticide exposure so says our herbalist and animal communicater etc.
However, if you read these testimonials, it's a cheap instant fix. ;-)
 
wendy
 
http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Pat Lawrie [mailto:doglandi...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: May 10, 2007 11:16 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSMange
 
I know that CS works for bacteria, fungus, and virus, but is it at all
effective on larger critters like mange mites on dogs? The normal way to
kill them is several weeks of ivermectin, but don't want to do that if
CS would work.
 
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Re: CSPACE questions

[Shelli]

Thanks Mike. That does help. I'm still a little skeptical, only because I've 
never had much luck with exercise. I either can't stick with it or if I do 
stick with it, I don't get much result. I suppose I tone up some but I've never 
lost weight with exercise and I don't get the feel good feeling that some 
people do afterwards. Anyway, enough whining. Do you feel like it is doing 
anything for your lung capacity or your heart? I'm considering getting a 
rebounder and using it with PACE. I just don't want to be disappointed again 
and waste more money.
Please keep me updated, even if you'd like to email me privately since this is 
OT.
Thanks!
Shelli


- Original Message 
From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 1:19:11 PM
Subject: Re: CSPACE questions

Shelli writes:
 I recently asked if anyone with info about the PACE program that was
 recently discussed on the list could let me know if the ebook has you
 decide your exertion levels (should be intensity levels) and number
 them 1-10 as the book 

Dear Shelli,

The e-book keeps things pretty simple. All he suggests is that you 
exercise up to a level that you can tell is slightly beyond your 
ability to sustain for a long period. If, after an exertion interval 
you are breathing heavily or panting, even a little bit, you've 
exceeded your aerobic intensity level and have created an oxygen debt 
that you must fill during the recovery period. That's all he requires.

The intensity level is entirely subjective and based on your present 
fitness level. You learn to pace yourself to complete a one, two, or 
three minute exertion period, with shorter exertion intervals being 
more vigorous than longer ones.

I suspect that he has simplified the PACE concept based on experience 
gained after the publication of the earlier book. The e-book is very 
clear and approachable.

I hope that helps. I've been doing approximately every other day 
workouts to ease into the program, and am now ready to try doing them 
almost daily and see how I do. No big dramatic results yet, but I 
wouldn't expect anything after just a couple of weeks. I, too, find the 
short workouts very comfortable.

Be well,

Mike D.

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the 
Yahoo! Auto Green Center.
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Re: CSEstheticians and Healthworkers

[Jodi W Menard]

Hi Doris - 

I guess you could consider me a healthworker, since I've been trained
by Children's Hospital to take care of a kid with a tracheostomy and
gastrostomy and have to keep things sterile. I use store-bought 3%
hydrogen peroxide to sterilize everything. I would imagine CS/EIS
would work, but you'd have to keep the instruments immersed in the CS
for 6 minutes, since that's how long it took in laboratory testing to
kill various germs with CS, from what I've read. In my opinion though,
probably peroxide (or alcohol?) would be best for metal instruments.

Hope this helps.

Jodi

Cinder Ella wrote on 5/10/2007, 8:35 PM:



  
  Anyone who is out there who is a
healthcare worker or an esthetician, has anyone been using CS/EIS for
"sterilizing" their manicure pedicure instruments? Would this work?
Considering it is anti bacterial/fungal/viral? Has anyone done any
experimentation on facials and CS/EIS? Has anyone ever done any
empirical testing on instruments after cleansing with CS/EIS?
  
  Doris
  
   




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CSSuper SilverR

[Dan Nave]

Super Silver(r) is an engineered silver nano-particle mineral
supplement. It includes 10 ppm silver utilizing International Health's
Biotech Labs unique patented silver technology.

See the patent:

http://www.internationalhealth.net/user/United%20States%20Patent_%207135
195.pdf

link from the page:

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Re: CSPACE questions

I have been doing this since it was mentioned here,  about 3 times per
week--sprinting, then walking, rather than all walking or slow jogging.  I
have been very pleased.  I feel stronger and I think it may have revved up
my metabolism, because when I don't overeat, I lose a pound or two; and
when I do overeat, I don't gain so easily like I normally would.  Plus I
love the fact that I can get it over with so much faster!  Lisa


 [Original Message]
 From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: 5/10/2007 5:20:21 PM
 Subject: Re: CSPACE questions

 Shelli writes:
  I recently asked if anyone with info about the PACE program that was
  recently discussed on the list could let me know if the ebook has you
  decide your exertion levels (should be intensity levels) and number
  them 1-10 as the book 

 Dear Shelli,

 The e-book keeps things pretty simple. All he suggests is that you 
 exercise up to a level that you can tell is slightly beyond your 
 ability to sustain for a long period. If, after an exertion interval 
 you are breathing heavily or panting, even a little bit, you've 
 exceeded your aerobic intensity level and have created an oxygen debt 
 that you must fill during the recovery period. That's all he requires.

 The intensity level is entirely subjective and based on your present 
 fitness level. You learn to pace yourself to complete a one, two, or 
 three minute exertion period, with shorter exertion intervals being 
 more vigorous than longer ones.

 I suspect that he has simplified the PACE concept based on experience 
 gained after the publication of the earlier book. The e-book is very 
 clear and approachable.

 I hope that helps. I've been doing approximately every other day 
 workouts to ease into the program, and am now ready to try doing them 
 almost daily and see how I do. No big dramatic results yet, but I 
 wouldn't expect anything after just a couple of weeks. I, too, find the 
 short workouts very comfortable.

 Be well,

 Mike D.

 [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
 [mdev...@eskimo.com]
 [Speaking only for myself...   ]


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RE: CSCS: Nebulizer mist

[ransley]

Harold wrote:

My Solaray Ultrasonic Cool Mist Humidifierputs out such a fine mist it
does not settle out,but just dissipates into the air.I find it gets right
down deep with a fairly deep breath.
It is not a small unit but is 15 long x 9 tall,x 6 wide.

Can you supply a link to that? Is it still made? Got a model #? 
DB

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RE: CSUltrasonic Nebulizer question

[ransley]

Marshall wrote:

the airbrush seems to fall at 5 inches or so a second, and the ultrasonic
appears to almost not fall at all.

That's pretty much the difference I see with my two devices. The airbrush
fog will drop and wet something, but the atomizer fog will float and
dissipate. DB

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Re: CSMange

[Duncan Crow]

Pat, I think ozonated olive oil will work on mange. Dr. Pressman 
makes ooo and sells it online:
s...@plasmafire.com -- it's not listed on his site 
www.plasmafire.com so you have to email him.

Duncan



On 10 May 2007 at 20:16, Pat Lawrie wrote:

 I know that CS works for bacteria, fungus, and virus, but is it at all 
 effective on larger critters like mange mites on dogs? The normal way to kill 
 them is several weeks of ivermectin, but don't want to do that if CS would 
 work.

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Re: CSMange

[Day Sutton]

I cured a stray dog of horrible mange.  No hair left at all, bleeding, etc.
I used fresh garlic, about two whole bulbs, blended in the blender with DW.
Then put that mix in with the rest of the DW (total one gallon) and used a
garden sprayer to apply it.   The guy started growing hair in about a
week...Don't get it in the eyes...Sprayed him once a day for only
about 3 days...

On 5/11/07, Wendy wen...@tuxnightclub.com wrote:


 I swear our dogs had mange late last fall….  From what I read any type of
mange 'could' be looked at as the immune system needing to be balanced and
improved. In our case that was most definitely true as life had gotten busy
and their diets had gotten fairly basic.



Anyhow we did give the dogs CS to drink and also used Ted's hydrogen
peroxide and borax, as well as some herbal tinctures from the holistic vet
to support kidneys and spleen (apparent weakness in our breed). Teds cure,
did stop the itching but bathing our big guys frequently in our itty bitty
bathtub in the winter was not all that easy. Although ours wasn't the mange
where all the hair falls out in patches we did have hair loss on the ears,
which regrew in the first couple weeks. They did continue to itch off and
on but we also believe there may have been a pesticide exposure so says our
herbalist and animal communicater etc. However, if you read these
testimonials, it's a cheap instant fix. ;-)



wendy



http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html





-Original Message-
*From:* Pat Lawrie [mailto:doglandi...@yahoo.com]
*Sent:* May 10, 2007 11:16 PM
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Subject:* CSMange



I know that CS works for bacteria, fungus, and virus, but is it at all
effective on larger critters like mange mites on dogs? The normal way to
kill them is several weeks of ivermectin, but don't want to do that if CS
would work.



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Re: CSMange

[Pat Lawrie]

Good grief , garlic? That certainly sounds simple, available and doable here in 
Mexico. Think I'll tell them to give that a try.
   
  Thanks, Pat

Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com wrote:
  I cured a stray dog of horrible mange.  No hair left at all, bleeding, etc.  
I used fresh garlic, about two whole bulbs, blended in the blender with DW.  
Then put that mix in with the rest of the DW (total one gallon) and used a 
garden sprayer to apply it.   The guy started growing hair in about a 
week...Don't get it in the eyes...Sprayed him once a day for only about 
3 days... 

  On 5/11/07, Wendy wen...@tuxnightclub.com wrote: I swear our dogs 
had mange late last fall….  From what I read any type of mange 'could' be 
looked at as the immune system needing to be balanced and improved. In our case 
that was most definitely true as life had gotten busy and their diets had 
gotten fairly basic. 
   
  Anyhow we did give the dogs CS to drink and also used Ted's hydrogen 
peroxide and borax, as well as some herbal tinctures from the holistic vet to 
support kidneys and spleen (apparent weakness in our breed). Teds cure, did 
stop the itching but bathing our big guys frequently in our itty bitty bathtub 
in the winter was not all that easy. Although ours wasn't the mange where all 
the hair falls out in patches we did have hair loss on the ears, which regrew 
in the first couple weeks. They did continue to itch off and on but we also 
believe there may have been a pesticide exposure so says our herbalist and 
animal communicater etc. However, if you read these testimonials, it's a cheap 
instant fix. ;-) 
   
  wendy 
   
  http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html
 
   
  -Original Message-
From: Pat Lawrie [mailto: doglandi...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: May 10, 2007 11:16 PM 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSMange
   
I know that CS works for bacteria, fungus, and virus, but is it at all 
effective on larger critters like mange mites on dogs? The normal way to kill 
them is several weeks of ivermectin, but don't want to do that if CS would 
work. 

 

Pat



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Re: CSMange

[Pat Lawrie]

To give a little more background, I live in Mexico and these dogs belong to 
some very poor people who have no money for treatment, and no they do not get 
fed well. My friend, their neighbor, does help them out some, but their living 
conditions are not the best. The dogs live outside in the dirt and most in this 
area have only dirt floors for themselves. I need to go see for myself how 
extensive the problem is. For all I know it could be a terrible flea or tick 
problem. I didn't think CS would work, but just wanted to confirm it.   
  Pat


Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.com wrote:
Good grief , garlic? That certainly sounds simple, available and doable 
here in Mexico. Think I'll tell them to give that a try.
   
  Thanks, Pat

Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com wrote:
  I cured a stray dog of horrible mange.  No hair left at all, bleeding, etc.  
I used fresh garlic, about two whole bulbs, blended in the blender with DW.  
Then put that mix in with the rest of the DW (total one gallon) and used a 
garden sprayer to apply it.   The guy started growing hair in about a 
week...Don't get it in the eyes...Sprayed him once a day for only about 
3 days... 

  On 5/11/07, Wendy wen...@tuxnightclub.com wrote: I swear our dogs 
had mange late last fall….  From what I read any type of mange 'could' be 
looked at as the immune system needing to be balanced and improved. In our case 
that was most definitely true as life had gotten busy and their diets had 
gotten fairly basic. 
   
  Anyhow we did give the dogs CS to drink and also used Ted's hydrogen 
peroxide and borax, as well as some herbal tinctures from the holistic vet to 
support kidneys and spleen (apparent weakness in our breed). Teds cure, did 
stop the itching but bathing our big guys frequently in our itty bitty bathtub 
in the winter was not all that easy. Although ours wasn't the mange where all 
the hair falls out in patches we did have hair loss on the ears, which regrew 
in the first couple weeks. They did continue to itch off and on but we also 
believe there may have been a pesticide exposure so says our herbalist and 
animal communicater etc. However, if you read these testimonials, it's a cheap 
instant fix. ;-) 
   
  wendy 
   
  http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html
 
   
  -Original Message-
From: Pat Lawrie [mailto: doglandi...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: May 10, 2007 11:16 PM 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSMange
   
I know that CS works for bacteria, fungus, and virus, but is it at all 
effective on larger critters like mange mites on dogs? The normal way to kill 
them is several weeks of ivermectin, but don't want to do that if CS would 
work. 

 

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Re: CSMange

[Day Sutton]

If you use the garlic solution, be sure to spray everywhere the dogs sleep
or lie down to rest...

On 5/11/07, Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.com wrote:


To give a little more background, I live in Mexico and these dogs belong
to some very poor people who have no money for treatment, and no they do not
get fed well. My friend, their neighbor, does help them out some, but their
living conditions are not the best. The dogs live outside in the dirt and
most in this area have only dirt floors for themselves. I need to go see for
myself how extensive the problem is. For all I know it could be a terrible
flea or tick problem. I didn't think CS would work, but just wanted to
confirm it.
Pat


*Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.com* wrote:

Good grief , garlic? That certainly sounds simple, available and doable
here in Mexico. Think I'll tell them to give that a try.

Thanks, Pat

*Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com* wrote:

I cured a stray dog of horrible mange.  No hair left at all, bleeding,
etc.  I used fresh garlic, about two whole bulbs, blended in the blender
with DW.  Then put that mix in with the rest of the DW (total one gallon)
and used a garden sprayer to apply it.   The guy started growing hair in
about a week...Don't get it in the eyes...Sprayed him once a day for
only about 3 days...

On 5/11/07, Wendy wen...@tuxnightclub.com wrote:

  I swear our dogs had mange late last fall….  From what I read any type
 of mange 'could' be looked at as the immune system needing to be balanced
 and improved. In our case that was most definitely true as life had gotten
 busy and their diets had gotten fairly basic.

 Anyhow we did give the dogs CS to drink and also used Ted's hydrogen
 peroxide and borax, as well as some herbal tinctures from the holistic vet
 to support kidneys and spleen (apparent weakness in our breed). Tedscure, did 
stop the itching but bathing our big guys frequently in our itty
 bitty bathtub in the winter was not all that easy. Although ours wasn't the
 mange where all the hair falls out in patches we did have hair loss on the
 ears, which regrew in the first couple weeks. They did continue to itch
 off and on but we also believe there may have been a pesticide exposure so
 says our herbalist and animal communicater etc. However, if you read
 these testimonials, it's a cheap instant fix. ;-)

 wendy

 http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html


 -Original Message-
 *From:* Pat Lawrie [mailto: doglandi...@yahoo.com]
 *Sent:* May 10, 2007 11:16 PM
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* CSMange

  I know that CS works for bacteria, fungus, and virus, but is it at all
 effective on larger critters like mange mites on dogs? The normal way to
 kill them is several weeks of ivermectin, but don't want to do that if CS
 would work.

  Pat

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CSdon't apologise dee

[joe bloggs]

Dee, if Janet wants to leave... that's her decision.

Please don't apologise or feel that you need to feel guilty.  I see it as a 
victory for what's right and good.  In my opinion, you were right and Janet 
came out with a load of stuff such as bathing in bleach that was so 
dangerous.  I'm glad that this is a forum that will allow freedom of 
expression and freedom of opinion.  There ain't that many forums allowing 
this.  Thanks Mike.  Keep it real PLEASE!!


Frankie

From: Dee  d...@deetroy.org

I wish to apologize to the list for carrying on such an emotive discussion 
which
was so way OT for this list.  I regret that Janet has decided to leave 
because

of it, although I do think two topics (both OT) got a bit mixed up.  Dee

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CSApology?

[joe bloggs]

I've read this thread and there's no way that Dee should apologise to Janet. 
 Janet was just so arrogant and impolite, rude, whatever.  She had a very 
obnoxious attitude.  She actually twisted Dees words while accusing Dee of 
twisting her's.  Not nice.  And Dee needs support here.


Dee was polite the whole way through.

Janet wasn't.

Frankie

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Hi Kathryn -

May I ask why you think Dee owes Janet an apology?  Janet said a couple
of things to Dee that seemed rude to me.  Remember that tsk, tsk
statement, or her accusing Dee of twisting her words, twice, when she
didn't?  I didn't think any of that was warranted.

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Re: CSCS: Nebulizer mist/ Model #

[Vwolf21]

 
In a message dated 5/11/2007 4:14:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
rans...@atmc.net writes:

Harold wrote:

My Solaray Ultrasonic Cool Mist Humidifierputs out such a fine mist it
does not settle out,but just dissipates into the air.I find it gets right
down deep with a fairly deep breath.
It is not a small unit but is 15 long x 9 tall,x 6 wide.

***Can you supply a link to that? Is it still made? Got a model #? 
DB

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RE: CSMange-ozonated olive oil

[Wendy]

His wife sells it at www.aloeessence.com

wendy

-Original Message-
From: Duncan Crow [mailto:duncanc...@shaw.ca] 
Sent: May 11, 2007 5:13 PM
To: Pat Lawrie; silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMange

Pat, I think ozonated olive oil will work on mange. Dr. Pressman 
makes ooo and sells it online:
s...@plasmafire.com -- it's not listed on his site 
www.plasmafire.com so you have to email him.

Duncan



On 10 May 2007 at 20:16, Pat Lawrie wrote:

 I know that CS works for bacteria, fungus, and virus, but is it at all
effective on larger critters like mange mites on dogs? The normal way to
kill them is several weeks of ivermectin, but don't want to do that if
CS would work.

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Re: CSCS gel other burn remedies

[Carol Ann]

In that case, I'll use Salvia Divinorium as my ticket. :)

Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote:  

It's a common field weed that ranges from the southern tip of florida to 
the arctic circle to Oregon.
Try just beyond your lawn, or, in my case, in the green stuff I call a lawn.

Careful now, unless you like walking with Ents and toasting 
marshmallows with cross bow toting gnomes for a few days at a stretch...or 
teleporting through space time membranes with MIB on your tail. [Creepy 
kritters, those! ..and the gnomes don't like them, that's why the cross 
bows. Gnomes are cool, so are Ents MIB? scary and dogged! ..but pretty 
slow and stupid almost like zombies]

The ticket's free, the destination...unknowable and it's a pretty long 
and weird journey. [Maybe witches have steering wheels ]


..never saw any zombies anywhere.

Ode


At 03:41 PM 5/6/2007 -0700, you wrote:

Jimson weed is both used by witches to fly

Hey Ode,
Airline tickets are getting rather expensive these days, not to mention 
what a harassment Home land security is.

So, where do I get Jimson weed? :)


Ode Coyote wrote:

Cyanide is used to cure cancer, present in apricot and apple seeds.
Tree frog poison is used by Shamans to see beyond the boundaries.
Extract of Jimson weed is both used by witches to fly and as an
antidote to most poisons. Atropine and Scopolamine, also used in
sleep-eze, included as an injection in the anti bio-terrorist tool kit.
..so you won't die in this reality.
Blood thinners are also rat poisons..table salt can be made into plastic
explosives, dynamite for heart attacks, a whack with a willow stick to get
a headache, eat a little willow bark the whack broke loose to get rid of
it, aspirin on and on.
Ode


At 09:27 PM 5/5/2007 +0100, you wrote:
 What about cyanide, or green tree frog poison? (lol) Dee
 
 
 
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 Everything in it's own context of use and abuse.
 
 Everything is toxic when over done or mis-done.
 
 Nothing is toxic when under done or done correctly.
 
 
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RE: CS[List Owner] Dissention in the ranks!

[Carlos P�rez]

Mike,

I am sure there are not many lists like this one. I find it a true privilege 
to belong to it. I find the way we maintain off topic subjets out (or IN 
with a grt elasticity, including yourself with your wise and 
enlighting O.T. participations), makes this list a true live encyclopaedia 
about any subject, specially health related (I am not so sure the MAIN topic 
is EIS anymore...!). You hardly ever have to intervene in order to say 
enough of that in the elegant way you know how to use.


Due to all this, we should watch ourselves in order to avoid getting 
personal about any list members opinions, so we can to maintain it at the 
highest level of human quality, which includes the normal altruistic 
attitude of practically all members, including specialists on different 
subjects, which abound here, always willing to share their knowledge and 
experience with all of us.


I am sure the great majority of this list's members will always be backing 
any any effort you make in order to keep it within appropiate limits, 
includind our constant incurring into O.T., which we should do with 
moderation imposed by ourselves.


Thank you, Mike for giving me the previlege to belong here.

Carlos



From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS[List Owner] Dissention in the ranks!
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 18:53:07 -5

Greetings folks,

I must apologize. I've been running about a hundred posts behind for
the last several days, or I would have stepped in a bit sooner on the
raw feeding topics.

The number one mistake made by each of the participants in the
aggression was making remarks about the PERSON whose opinion you
disagree with, rather than the subject under discussion.

The debate was NEVER about:

Janet being blase, or naïve, or deceptive...
Dee twisting things, or her choice of tactics...
Getting other people to abandon their positions...
Nitpicking another's arguments for minor logic flaws...
Becoming so emotionally embroiled you can't disengage...

Remember this:

IF YOU DON'T WANT SOMEBODY TO TAKE IT PERSONALLY, DON'T MAKE IT
PERSONAL!!!  (Capitalized for emphasis, not meaning to shout.)

As soon as you see yourself using the word you in an argument, back
off and look at it. Are you accusing the person of some flaw of morals,
character, intellect, or intention? The best thing is to delete the
entire sentence or paragraph and start over!

At several points people made attempts to defuse the situation. The
suggestion of agreeing to disagree is good! Everybody watching the
discussion got a big dose of the reasoning of both sides. So leave it
at that and let them make up their own minds!

Lastly, yes, these threads have certainly run their course and ought to
be retired now.

Again, I permit other health-related topics to be brought up and
discussed, but those that do not involve CS should *not* be allowed to
drag on for days and dominate the list discussion.

That has been happening, and I accept responsibility for letting it go
on for too long without intervening. It got so bad we even got Mary
yelling at us!! wink!

My excuse is being too busy and overwhelmed here to devote the time to
keeping up as I should have. Umm, what's yours?

So, let's not talk about animal feeding any more for a while, please?
And stop trying to win arguments. Everybody loses.

Thank you, all.

Be well,

Mike Devour
silver-list owner

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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Re: CSMange

[Norine Twaddell]

I have never heard of ozonated olive oil.   how does ozone affect the OI? 
Interested...
Norine Twaddell CDBC, CPDT
www.dogventures.com


- Original Message - 
From: Duncan Crow duncanc...@shaw.ca
To: Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.com; silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: CSMange
 Pat, I think ozonated olive oil will work on mange. Dr. Pressman 
 makes ooo and sells it online:
 s...@plasmafire.com -- it's not listed on his site 
 www.plasmafire.com so you have to email him.

Re: CSMange

[Norine Twaddell]

effect!  geeze.  will O3 oil help my brain to function?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Norine Twaddell 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 12:47 AM
  Subject: Re: CSMange


  I have never heard of ozonated olive oil.   how does ozone affect the OI? 
Interested...
  Norine Twaddell CDBC, CPDT
  www.dogventures.com


  - Original Message - 
  From: Duncan Crow duncanc...@shaw.ca
  To: Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.com; silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 5:12 PM
  Subject: Re: CSMange
   Pat, I think ozonated olive oil will work on mange. Dr. Pressman 
   makes ooo and sells it online:
   s...@plasmafire.com -- it's not listed on his site 
   www.plasmafire.com so you have to email him.